e good evening everyone if you could please silence your cell phones or turn them off at this time we'd appreciate it welcome to the city of South Miami today is Tuesday March 4th the time is approximately 7 PM we will now call the
meeting of the South Miami city commission to order Madam clerk if you could call the role please yes mayor Fernandez present vice mayor Corey pres commission Cay here commissioner Rodriguez here you have a quum thank you madam clerk if we could all please rise for a moment of silence followed by the
Pledge of Allegiance and and this evening I just like to um ask for your prayers um we lost uh a distinguished member of our community South Florida Community this week Lincoln D BL former
State Rep state senator and Congressman um also as to like to ask for your prayers for a dear friend of commissioner bonich who she's mning this evening and a former colleague of mine Mr Jose relo who was a longtime employee of the city of South City of Miami's parks department and passed away
recently if you could keep them in your thoughts this evening we would appreciate that thank you commission K would you Le The Pledge please of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liy and
justice for all thank you please be seated mam clerk we have no presentations this evening correct correct okay well then I'd like to take a special moment of privilege to congratulate one of our
most distinguished citizens or neighbors Mr Dick Ward and wish him a belated again happy 87th birthday to Mr Ward if we could give him a round of applause please I know colleagues uh you know he off gives us a little bit of a hard time
but we love to have him around here and I thought maybe we could commemorate the birthday with a quick picture Mr Ward if you'd like to take a picture of the commission up front here invite you up come on let's let's come on down why don't we take can we take a picture with you here in front of the chambers to commemorate your birthday are you
serious come on don't want to come on di let's do it come on than go get your sign for get your sign Madam clerk are there any add-on items tonight no there aren't good um
let's see can I get a motion on the minutes of February 18th I move the item is there a second uh on the approval of the minutes yes great now we have a motion by commissioner Corey a sec sorry a motion by vice mayor Corey and a second by
commissioner Cay Madam clerk if you can call the role please yes commission Cay yes commission Rodriguez yes vice mayor Cory yes mayor Fernandez yes minutes pass for zero thank you Mr manager your report please Adam Deputy manager you've got us this evening
welcome good evening uh two more outdoor pickle ball courts have officially been retrofitted at maral Williamson Park those are Four Courts now and they're all available for the community to use this weekend we have our next SOI second Saturdays it's Millennials night so we
welcome everybody to come out 5: to 10 p.m. and I can officially say we've launched uh Metro connect somi powered by via that launched on Thursday so on the marketing Community Affairs site and know we've done a big push to make sure everybody knows about it everybody knows about the change it's been on our
website if you loged on to our website you received a popup letting you know what was happen happening we had mailers go out press release it was picked up by Channel 10 Community newspapers uh the radio social media ads we've sent in the resident and business newsletter so
hopefully everybody's aware um and if anybody has questions we have full FAQs up still up on our website that's the manager's report colleagues any questions yeah I have a couple questions the the pickle
balls I thought we had some already are they permanent or they're they're retrofitted like they're permanent or they're temporary they're permanent they're there were we added to what was there already so now we added the capability of having but they're the removable Nets okay yeah so they're
removable mhm so does someone have to come in there and ask for pickle for it to have the right thing or is it yeah just one net and you can just go play I'll I'll let our our Parks director kind of get into the the details of that I'm not really sure but yeah it's it's not like uh Brewer Park where it's a
fixed Court yeah good evening at Brewer Park is permanent pickle ball everything's fixed at Marshall Williamson is retrofitted so the actual pickle ball courts are off to the side the actual netting when you want to play you'll boo is portable and
you'll put it on the Lin for a pick a ball play oh perfect okay we went from we already had two retrofitted courts Marshall Williamson now we have four okay he Mr director is that first come first serve or is it that is correct first come first serve or if you want to reserve a court you can contact
us via email or you know our office and we could reserve it for you excellent but it's either or right it's either tennis or correct correct so if you have tennis being played two pickle ball courts will not be available on that tennis court understood okay thank you sir
problem Madam manager one quick question any anyone else have questions go ahead any sense of the writers ship on the weekend for or can you get us statistics on the first weekend yeah we don't have any yet but we can request it thank you and um against the followup on the freebie database so we can get an update
on that as well okay thank you m thank you okay Mr City attorney uh your report please we have nothing to report at this time May okay thank you very much uh we have a number of discussion items that we will be deferring uh in the absence
of commissioner bonich can I get a motion to defer M2 M3 and M4 I'll move the motion is there a second second a motion by commissioner k a second by commissioner Rodriguez without without objection show those items deferred to the March 18th
meeting okay uh commissioner Rodriguez you have a discussion it m one mam clerk if you can read that into the record please we skip public remarks oh we skip oh my apologies what can you give me a list please Mr Ward I know you your name was first on the list why don't you come up
and kick us off for public remarks floor is yours public remarks are open we'll recognize you first sir I hope I don't have to have that thing for more than a couple more months you know it's this is the first meeting I've been to since November and I've
been attending these meetings on a regular basis since 1961 probably before some of you were born the thing I wanted to address you about today is the fact that these high-rise buildings that you had approved and I stood here and just
gave you you know what for those buildings and when that article appeared in the paper with the pictures of the buildings and everything I said oh boy I can't wait to see what happens and it didn't happen so I have to say to you I guess all the old-timers just moved away
or passed away and when the you won't be here when those buildings are complete but the traffic is going to be out of sight and they're going to be hollering bloody murder it's good to be back and I have a feeling that all of these ordinances
most of the ordinance on tonight are going to make it possible to build larger buildings in some of these areas and say to commissioner Rodriguez I congratulate you on your Victory and uh
I can't believe the amount of money you all spent to get elected you worse than the [Laughter] mayor I I said when the mayor raised that 64,000 I said you know we're not going to see the good old man run for
office of the lady anymore I tried to get three people to run against some of you people and couldn't get a soul to do it and they all told me too much money but anyway I have to say this regardless of how much much money you
raised all of you as much as I shoot at you once in a while I have to say people have to realize that you know something's wrong with you guys that are willing to sit up there and Serve the People
247 and to me I think that's great that you all have that dedication to help this city even though I don't agree with you a lot of times but I don't know why government is able to run because people like you are willing to
serve the people and I say that's great with that about the best remark I'll make for the next two years thank you Mr Ward thank you uh next on the list we have uh Mr John Edward Smith and Mr Jacobs you're you're next
therea good evening sir good evening Mr Mayor members of the commission vice mayor uh dick I really like what you had to say congratulations to these this group and uh glad I supported all of you and Lisa not here
um I'd like to just briefly say and thank vice mayor and the commission for recognizing uh Dr Reverend Dr Anna price at her Memorial this past Saturday um
our vice mayor did an excellent job in presenting U the proclamation from from the city and U Anna and I go back many many years um from her first election as
mayor the campaign that followed that was very divisive unfortunately for the city um and then later on working with Dr Price and then um vice mayor Amando ales
in putting together a group called citizens for good government in South Miami uh she's always been such a beacon of light um and um you know with uh we used
to observe our mutual birthdays know we were four days apart on February of 43 and um she was on the cus of Aquarius and I'm on the cusp of Pisces so we always joked about the fish and the water
getting together on and observing our birthday uh and um I want to say also uh you know working with um Gail um a few weeks ago when that news broke and
I was um speaking before you I I followed up with the mayor and I I apologized I said just I just wasn't on top of my game that night um and with Gail's passing I was very distracted and
I also had at 82 I had a senior moment you know I go with the The Joe Biden Shuffle I I always used to be very concerned when he was getting off the helicopter going down those steps come on Joe you can do it uh but I'm
also reminded that MC Jagger is also 82 so there you go have a good evening thank you sir Mr Jacobs good evening good evening everybody good evening I'm I'm glad to see you all here I'm happy to be a part of this city and
I was on the planning board from 2016 to 2022 when we were one of the main things we did was rezone the whole city and uh it used to be that uh the applicant would come in and present what he wanted
to do with a parcel of land and then people would get to hear what the uh what the plan was and what the how the zoning was developing how much more dense it is but I feel with the the new way that you're doing it it seems like
you make the deal in uh lobbying mornings and you come back and instead of the one who wants to change the zoning come in and present we you just tell us what it's going to be and it's pretty much a done deal it
seems like we've lost some a citizen input in that way and the other thing I wanted toh talk about I want to thank commissioner Caye and Rodriguez and the mayor for helping me look into
this in my neighborhood uh there's a mango Terrace is right next one street away from me and you all sent me the information that the city had and in 2023 it started the flood that was the
first notice of it and I asked you was there any evidence before that and no one has come up with anything so in 2023 what happened there was a very large house twice as big as any other in the neighborhood double the
size uh built it's uh a mansion among modest homes and we're I thought that the flooding was going to be all up and down mango Terrace but no it's only in front of that house the house east of it the house West of it and the House North
across the street that's where the flooding is so I wonder how did you uh investigate it it seemed like yes there there is flooding there it needs to be done but it only happened after this huge house was built and the runoff from
it is causing flooding and there's no evidence that uh it's the weather it's the zoning so what are you going to do with about it who when that came up who is in charge of investigating why it's
flooding it's flooding yeah but it's not flooding anywhere else why uh it's a simple simple reasonable thing to scrutinize what comes before you Mr Jacobs if I can ask you a question are you're referring
to 6790 6790 okay mango ter yeah and the uh uh you have to scrutinize what comes before you it's $150,000 out of a budget for flooding of
650,000 so it's 25% of the flooding budget You're Building you're allowing three houses where there was one two houses more you're developing intensely in the residential neighborhoods and if
flooding happens we pay the bill why is it that taxpayers are stressed with this bill I mean it's not hurting me in any way but it doesn't make sense that the city would do this so I'd like to know
what happened and what you're going to do about it in the future because you're still building sir I I actually have an answer for you if you'd like to hear it so I actually got an unsolicited text after our last meeting on February 18th from Bradley Cassell who used to own the home at
6790 Southwest 76 Terrace which is the before it was demolished and his response to me was that uh there was flooding in front of his home all the time so it's been a longstanding persistent condition apparently unrelated to the construction of that home but we have asked our
public work to follow up and confirm that I I don't know the fact that's that's from the horse's mouth and the owner of the of the home immediately before it was redeveloped so I don't think there's any reason for him not to be telling me the facts so he's still very involved with our pension board as
you know so someone who's still not withand he live in the city still giving to the community through his service so just by way of a quick update for you uh Mr MC you're next James MCC 6210 Southwest 63 Terrace
first of all um thank you guys for uh the flowers and the um the proclamation to Dr prices you did good U um Saturday and it was a beautiful home going for Dr Price um I've been knowing Dr price for a long time you heard all the beautiful
things that were said and done and if you read the habituary you you'll know she has done so many things so so I'm here to say that I'm proud to to be have been considered her a friend and a mentor uh for all she's done you know um
what a onw punch with Gail and then her so um um um we are are still planning uh something for her and I think it's April 12th and I'll give you guys the um the F when it's finalized so
we can go ahead and um and um and still talk about her and in our special ways we have time I also want to thank U you guys for the discussion for the um uh for the uh Mobile
sales uh possibly in the amendment of the um the ordinance to reflect that I think that will solve a lot of problems and um we can um discuss on how this can be done with the um local uh churches
hopefully properly okay thank you thank you for your comment Sir Mr mcken can you let us know if there's anything that we can do for the event on April 14th you said 12 April 12th April 12th I know I know I couldn't
attend this weekend I was out of time this weekend so whatever I can do to help please let us know and you know we'll see what we can do to figure it out we sure can I sure will all right thank you uh Miss Williams good evening all right good evening uh Londa
Williams 6477 Southwest 6th Avenue um I was coming um here today because I was looking over the agenda and um I see that there have been some changes since the last meeting that we had regarding the future designation for the mangol
lot and um I know that that's going to be discussed as an item um later this evening so I think I'll speak more um to it then but you know one of the things I just wanted to reiterate is that there there were some language and and that
item um regarding the dates and and some of the meetings that took place uh we hadn't really like I said last time been noticed in that way um like required within a mile of that um change and I am happy I will say to hear that
it's trying to lessen the density however I do have a concern about what you're putting there and so um uh like others you know there are some issues now coming up and I don't know if it's just because of the the neighborhood
itself needs to be upgraded in terms of certain things I know know that's happening but there are issues with flooding there are issues with um growth so I just I want to speak more to it when the item um comes up but I just wanted to let you guys know that I was a little disappointed um last time I think
part of that was supposed to be identified as the northeast corner as a park and now it seems like the entire lot is up for uh resoning I was hoping that part of that would include that space um because you know it's it's
important for all resid I understand their growth I don't want to ever come up here and say I don't understand growth because it's happening all over but I think that when residents come up and we're speaking to specific things if there are things that you can do as a day because there's not anybody up there
that I haven't voted for regardless of party I don't get into that I look at you as a person and I say hey what can you do to bring to our city to keep us out of litigation and ultimately save tax pay or dollars but can also kind of preserve what we have going and to be very Frank you know I know that where
all of you live and many of you live in places that are AB budding Treeline Street after Tree Line Street after Tree Line Street and I understand that the area where I may live may not have that but we do want to maintain some of that I also want to talk about the historical nature of that I really think that that
place because of the fact that it has grandfather trees by state of Florida statue um they should be preserved as part of the historical component of a person that founded the city he actually made those trees and planted them and they're over 50 years years so you can't
replicate that anywhere else it would be lovely to see that well beyond our years I'm sure we're all middle-aged most of us um well beyond we're gone from this Earth that we would still have something to look back from and as a as a token we have other things statutes but there
nothing like having an actual thing that's somewhere planted by hand thank you thank you very much uh Mr Kelly you're recognized good evening good evening be by Kelly 6250 Southwest 60 Avenue um couple of items that uh I want
to just kudos to vice mayor for his efforts this past weekend great job and understand that if you guys could have been there you would have um I think on
on the other issue that uh of course the last meeting we had some some discussions that were uh need to be had and and uh I just wanted to U just specifically thank the uh the chief and
and and the assistant chief for following through on their commitment to coming out to the community there was a meeting with the Le Park uh management uh a day or so ago and and they they are
really discussing uh ways to uh better do things in in terms of uh how and when and how and so forth and understand there's some movement a foot to uh to address some some major issues so I just
want to say kudo to the Chief and and and his staff for following through on that um as it relates to the uh the U upcoming events that we are planning to have which juneth activity U which will
be on the 21st and that's a smaller event um much better uh confined to an area so uh we just want to let you guys know that uh that that is in the planning stage and uh we'll keep you breast so thank you thank you sir appreciate the
comments uh there's no one else registered is there no else in the audience who'd like to address this commission at this time if so please come forward floor's open Adam cler there's no one on the line no one's online okay again anyone else in the chamber seeing none then we
will close public remarks uh colleagues we have a brief agenda so did anyone want to make any commission reports you want to share this evening done I I just want to um again extend my condolences to Hollis and the family uh it was a wonderful ceremony I
watched it on the live stream remotely I was in Orlando this weekend with my son for a lacrosse tournament um I was touched to hear that uh after the naming of the park space that we designated a few meetings ago that she was able to internalize that before she passed and shared a wonderful
moment with her son about it that brought me a great deal of comfort um following her passing so uh thank you to the vice mayor who did a fantastic job representing all of us uh at a difficult time we're uh indebted for you indebted to for your presentation and for your um
for your presence so thanks again uh with that uh we'll move on to our discussion items I'm sorry Mr K sorry M I just wanted to tell you know the public that we had the senior games last week as well we did yes I know it was part of the uh the management the manager reports but we didn't really
talk about it and I figured good time to talk about it we had a really good turnout um a lot of great great pictures and videos uh the chief did a really good job of dancing and playing so it was a good job but uh it was a really good turnout and and I'm glad parks department as usual doing a great job so
thank you guys appreciate it yes commission Gorey you're recognized I just also wanted to thank all the residents from South Miami who uh showed up to Dr Price's funeral it was a obviously she meant so much to so
many different people all over um and then also thank you to Mayor Danielle line Cava who came and spoke as well I thought that that was a a very nice thing for her to do and continued support for um the people and things we do in the city
so yeah her remarks were excellent as well very very humorous very personal um rodrig anything are good okay so we will move on uh we do have one discussion item uh commissioner Rodriguez's item Madam clerk if you just
quickly read the title yes a special mobile vendor events for churches uh commission Rodriguez why don't you uh kick this discussion off so currently we have an ordinance where we do not allow food trucks or basically in the city
other than an industrial area or at a construction site and basically after 30 minutes they they they have to move at um the unity event uh um event I was with uh Mr mccans and we were discussing because we were eating off
the food trucks that were there the food was great everybody was having a great time and you know it came to light that this you know having some of these food trucks come into some of the communities and you
know where the residents can come and and and I guess build a sense of community for me sounded like a good idea it also gives an opportunity for these local vendors you know to to make a little money you know while while
while working and so we discussed and you know it'd be something great to offer the community where at whatever local church in the city so it could be you know you know at Mount Olive at St John's it could be uh Vu that they would
be able to provide the community you know food trucks you know on the days that that they approve and like I said bring a a bring the community together build a sense of community it's a place where we can all attend and we can go
out and meet the the residents you know I I I our police force can go out our you know our our employees from the city can go out and and meet the residents and I just think it's a good opportunity but like I said our code right now doesn't allow it so I wanted to bring
this up to see what you guys thought of it um what the commission and and Mr Mayor you thought of it and um hopefully we can move forward and come up with some guidelines and um give the community you know an opportunity to do
something where you know they they can all gather and the local vendors can you know make some money on the side and provide some delicious food let's go let's go left to right here so commissioner Cory thoughts I do think it's a good idea and
I uh um you know whenever I've been in areas where there isn't um you know a walkable distance to a restaurant or a coffee shop or something like that there's always this desire for that type of activity of course you have to uh be
weary of any unintended consequences competition that might exist with restaurants or things like that in that area that's usually the argument against food trucks regulations in terms of health safety so I do think there's a lot that might have to go into like the considerations on how to prove these
things but uh I do think it's a great idea and I think particularly uh in the areas that you had mentioned uh I've heard a lot of feedback that there's a desire for like actual programmed activity instead of just sort of you know loose loose Gathering
so and and and I I agree that that's why this is mostly in residential neighborhoods and and away from you know our somi district and yeah and I have heard interest of people doing this at parks too I know that would be kind of an expansion of this and I don't know if that would be appropriate either but I
have had residents request that before so I don't know just a thought commission K yeah so look I we we've SP spoken about this before about having uh food trucks specifically at church
locations religious locations there's only two issues that I have with it um Vu for example Vu Vu we have an issue with traffic and population uh when we have the church churches in general like the community is not a big fan of all
the traffic and the parking on the SES and doing all that stuff so that's something we have to be a little conscious about when we start moving forward with this particular with this particular um idea uh and I'm mostly talking about Vu there but as we as we grow that just
just be conscious of traffic and the abilities of in and out because Vu has a really big footprint and they can bring a lot of trucks and they can bring a lot of people um so just just be conscious with that the other thing that I was going to say is I would love to do the event with
with our local vendors I think that one of the things that we've struggled with is really to bring up and nurture our community of vendors uh not only from giv the opportunity and how to run a food truck given them the ability on how to get licensed get the tax local taxes
everything all the document prepared so they can do this with a permit and move forward not only just here but to maybe create a living out of it and so one of the things that we want I would want to do commissioner is figure out how we actually have a program in place uh whether with Hector loo in our offices
or with our community in general so they so the community understands how to make sure all their food trucks and and what they're selling is all legal and there's no issues moving forward so they can expand um I think those were the two major issues that I had with it but other than
that I love the idea yeah sure I'm GNA just give you my no so I just want to say I think it's an excellent idea I think a monthly Roundup or so would be uh and if it rotated around the city I think that would be an interesting thing as well to kind of bring people together from a wider cross-section I think um
the collection of vendors that we had at the UN Festival were excellent but it'd be great to have them come across to stre and maybe make it a staple of a second Saturday part of the programming to have um that kind of orientation for the event so um again there's more uh more
cross-pollination um and again I think we just need to be careful when we allow these things um have the permitting be such so that it's contextually appropriate to commissioner G's Point make sure maybe different Loc you have a you limit the number of possible vendors so you limit the amount of traffic and
and size of the Roundup but I think it's a idea worth exploring and look forward you bringing back some legislation for us to consider thank you mayor thank you Commissioners so the idea is actually to answer some of your questions U we we
already discussed uh Parks I guess that's something we will have to discuss with the the City attorney I uh for this instance chose churches just because it's they have the parking space and they're also a place where you know
Community can come together and they're usually located somewhere Central of of the residents and and and have the parking for it so that's that was the choice behind that uh commissioner Cay yes the idea is to have a certain amount of trucks because you're right Vu can
bring 40 trucks in their huge parking lot and I agree that so it would be a set amount where it goes um um Cross City so at every Church whether we choose to do five or six something
that's reasonable that fits you know in in in all the parking lots and is also helps um yeah helps our our our local vendors and I agree with uh commissioner K and I think that's what and that's what me and Mr MCA it's bring local food
trucks into these um events so we are helping our local you know um serve to to our residents um so I appreciate it I mean any ideas or anything else um any other
questions I think it's we got to go WR legislation now yeah yeah no oh well we we got our great City attorneys right here helping me out with that but I I hope to bring this for first reading um and I I I I hope we could get this done
and you know like I said I I just think it's it's good to bring uh the community together and and build a sense of community amen okay we look forward to it thank you uh Madam clerk if you can read item one our first reading ordinance for public hearing yes item
one an ordinance of the mayor City Commission of the city of South Florida amending the future land use map of the future land use element of the city of South M comprehensive plan pursuance of small scale Amendment procedure set forth in Section 163 3187 Ed statues to
change the future land use designation of certain Parcels on the west side of 62nd Avenue between Southwest 64th Street to the north and Southwest 68th Street to the south from their current destination of residential limited
commercial RLC to mixed use commercial residential mucr okay um Mr Diaz good evening how are you Mark Diaz Alvarez Mark Alvarez
sorry sorry Mark it's been too long Mr Alvarez good evening my apologies I'm having a seen your moment today good evening this is Mark alv Cino group yeah do you have is your is your presentation one presentation for all three items or are there separate presentations for each it it's one for
each item okay thank you sir so yeah great so we'll go ahead and hear your presentation then we'll open up the public hearing thank you okay you're recognized you thank you thank you mayor um good to be here and we have to do this I'm going to ask you to just move the slide forward
to the second one so what we have tonight is a future land use Amendment it's just a map Amendment it's for the um the air the parcel 16 Parcels along the west side of North I'm sorry Southwest 62nd Avenue
it's a small scale amendment process so we don't send it for State review this will go through two hearings and the planning board this has been SP sponsored by the city Administration and what we're changing is we're going from this currently designated residential limited commercial RLC and we're
changing it to mixed use commercial residential and UCR the reason we're doing this is that when we changed the uh future land use element which is the the comprehensive plan text we eliminated these categories we eliminated the category of RLC with the
intention to have a mixed use buffer there uh so this all really it's part of the overall intent of a resoning effort that happened with downtown we got through the tsdd we discussed this trip as being a buffer but we always discuss it as a mixed use buffer and having a
little more room to to work with it so the mdcr that we're changing it to is exactly the same as the former designation of the hometown um one of the things I want to emphasize this is only a future land use map change we are not changing the
zoning so the effect of this immediately is not to change zoning and allow something else to have happen there we will have further discussions about the zoning we intended to have this become a neighborhood mixed use which is a district that we will be
writing in the next few months so we're going to have a lot of discussion about the details of what the form is and what the height is and what can go there but right now we have to sort of clear the way for that and change the future land use map I uh future land use map
designation next slide please um this shows the affected land area it's 16 Parcels the in in its entirety is about 2.79 Acres um it is next slide please it is surrounded by um as we all
know to the west of it is a residential neighborhood however it's separated by a 20 foot alley um to is East is the 62nd is 62nd Avenue um 62nd Avenue again this is our this is our transition from the
tsdd from the downtown to go one step down on this trip and then transition into the neighborhood and again how that transition will happen will be part of the zoning discussions what we have to do now is change the future land use um to the north is also residential and uh
to the South we have tstd so this is again this is the transition area between downtown and single family residential and in this case we have the additional benefit of the 20 buffer on the um of the alley next slide
please um just to show you on the map I mean it's it's I guess the map is just a color change sometimes it helps people understand it that we have this salmon color which is RLC which has now been a category that's eliminated from the text of the future Lan element or the
comprehensive plan and we're changing it to the text of um neighborhood mucr which is still we intend to use this now as our buffer air area so that's the map change um and as you can see to the
South is tsdd it's the purple is downtown designation to its East is a downtown designation also to the east is the school is the JRE Lee school we have a little bit of Williamson Park and we have the um home for senior citizens and
just to the very North we do have C act from City for Terrace um there are single family homes up there again this this is basically clearing the way so that we can now do the neighborhood mixed two zoning in the coming months to really Define the form that will be in
there and then it will be mixed use next slide please so the um the this is a table of first two columns are the change from um future land use map category to the to
the mucr and you can see the the residential limited commercial which again doesn't exist anymore but but it's a very very low density low intensity use and in fact this area is mostly parking lots and mostly the plan I think
it's got an f about point2 for the whole strip um we will change that to mucr and the existing zoning is still there we're not changing that and the existing Z zoning can still be um compatible with
the MCR land use when we get to rezoning it that will be the neighborhood mixed use it's in a column or it's we will Define that then and that's when we will sit down and really work through the form the height the Transitions and the the uses that will happen in there next
slide please and finally we we always apply the eight um criteria that we need to do to satisfy State statutes we found are consistent with all of the criteria if there's any question on
this I'll be happy to answer them colleagues have any questions I I have a couple if you want me to kick off uh just mark from a process perspective I um you said something at the beginning of your presentation about um the RLC
category uh not existing so is you're just to clarify for the bend of the audience what we're intending what we've been doing with our both our zoning and land use categories is given that we had so many unique categories we've been trying to consolidate them correct into
a a handful of categories and this is part of that consolidation process correct so the RLC designation will be delete will be deleted eventually will be deleted it was marked for deletion at uh first reading of the last round of text changes to the comprehensive plan at
first reading we had discussed it at first reading and said well we can't get rid of it yet it's still on the map so we kept it but it is marked for future deletion okay so this is this is the remapping once there's no land designated RLC then we can the
guidelines are no longer necessary so they'll be deleted at that time that's correct okay so I just want to make sure we're explaining that to the public clearly um secondly um Mark if you can clarify a statement you made again this is just addressing the land use
component uh there are no implementing with if this change is adopted on second reading we still have to actually implement this categ through the adoption of a zoning ordinance or zoning designation yeah that that's that's correct if you want Mr Alvarez to answer that either of you
is fine okay yeah that that is correct okay yeah and and again in terms of what RLC allows versus what the proposed category allows in terms of height and density can you give us a quick summary because I'm sure there are people that are interested in
that sure yes so the the there is a uh currently the RLC allows two stories five units an acre which means 13 133 uh units could be built on this area um and an
f8 the mixed use the Mark Mark if you can stop one second Mark excuse me Mr Alvarez my apologies so just just so I understand what you just said five units an acre so across all of these Parcels 13 units could be built is that correct
correct previously under the current designation okay continue my apology it's an extremely low intensity it's an extremely low intensity mixed use that's really not viable and we had this discussion in the middle of last year about changing this
area the mucr is much more open and would allow it basically change it has permissive mixed use but it will require the zoning to regulate the height the density and um the F and everything will really depend on
the so we're changing it to a category that um allows a lot it's very open however currently it sits with its neighborhood retail zoning which is consistent with the mucr the neighborhood retail zoning only allows
pretty much what's there um two stories 25 fet High um and a 02 F a025 so we're not anything right now Mr Alvarez you're breaking up Mr alv you're breaking up youe
basically the MU we'll have the zoning discussion to no say it again I'm sorry yeah I we you you broke up there your connection uh got a little a little weak so we couldn't hear you so Mr the attorney if you could if you could help me out here
just I just want to be clear for the public no I'm sorry what what does what does the MCU R designation allow by way is there a limit on height or density there there is no limit on height or density that is it it calls for that all to be limited through the zoning
ordinance and at present the zoning what what Mr Al was saying is that the zoning ordinance allows basically two stories 24t okay okay and so I just again because I want to simplify this because I these are complicated topics yeah so for people for people who are listening to this again this will all be what will
be permitted will be defined by what are the implementing rules the zoning ordinance that will say whether it's remains of two stories or something greater than two stories okay that's correct okay colleagues any questions through the through the mayor just to expand on what the mayor because that's
the same question I had what we still yet have to decide what the height and density is going to be that is that's correct and at present it's two stories okay perfect and being mixed use commercial residential that basically means that the owner of these Pro of
this property or properties has the choice of whether they want to do a what I would say I guess apartments with commercial in the bottom or town homes or or both or or yeah but what I'm saying is it's to their discretion what
they want to build in yeah they have the ability it is intended to provide for mixed use so so a mix of uses but it does acknowledge that there there can be horizontal mixed uses where you've got you know residential here commercial over here okay right as long as the
district is the district is intended to be a mixed use District okay have to be every building is mixed use and um so also the is there anything this may have not even been written so I I'm just the
distance from I guess would be the residential or alleway to to the front of the property are are they supposed to build on a certain because again my fear and which we've said from the beginning that we started talking about this in December or actually before you guys
years now um My worry is that we put something too big there and those residential neighbor houses that lie Behind these properties now lose their privacy right we so the current zoning
restriction is two stories but we also have a restriction of of uh a portion of the property and I I'm I'm looking for it right now I can't remember if it's 75 feet or 100 feet of depth if you are adjacent to residential there's a limitation of two stories okay
also in our code generally across the board okay okay thank you yep further questions none okay uh let's open up public remarks at this time if there's any member of the audience who'd like to speak uh on item one please come forward
uh ask for your name and address for the record please ma'am good evening good evening Shante Wells 6102 Southwest 68 street so my question is what is it as far as the
advantages for them because it's not been wiped out the current use and you would still have to change the zoning so what's the real true purpose of actually going through this process to get the Declaration of the mix used I'm concerned with the traffic and the
congestion I'm concerned with the seniors that live in that area primarily I'm concerned with all of those retired Educators who are along that strip who you guys already ran off a gym that we had there longterm that invested in this community so why now would we be looking
to change the the zoning is the goal to get some highrises overshadow like like let's let's think about the whole of this so I want to know specifically what is the purpose of changing this de clation especially when you would have to then go to change the
zon it's not making sense to me so I may you may you recognize state law requires that any zoning be implemented be consistent with the comprehensive plan this is changing
that comprehensive plan so that the zoning process can then take place I I don't know that there is a specific end in mind I know that uh what has been discussed before is a neighborhood Ood mixed use category like definitely not
high-rise I don't think that's in the cards at all uh that's not been discussed um it you know a low rise like two three three maybe four stories I don't know that's up to the commission to determine but essentially it's a mixed use neighborhood type of you know
Community serving retail with some residential component that's the concept behind mixed use the the best I can address your question uh is by saying that I think what we are trying to create is a condition where something gets built on that Corridor
that Corridor has been vacant empty for too long and I don't think that's serving the neighborhood well uh I walked all those homes uh when I campaigned on the backside uh of stunnas which you mentioned uh who lived you know uh
in direct opposition for lack of a better way of putting it with that business um very clear to me that they would want nothing more than three stories to the neighbors I spoke to so certainly that's kind of my guide star in this conversation but I think the
goal is to is to do something there that activates the streets so we just don't have a bunch of empty lots since they've been in that condition for the better part at least the 20 years I've been driving up and down that section of the roadway um that's the best answer I can give you right now uh the one question the one comment I do have S City
attorneys as we pick the right zoning category just to your point about highrises we always have to be mindful I say to the public of the effects of the live local act where we have been by the state legislature in some instances we
have a mix use designation from a zoning perspective uh you know can be preempted so we we have to factor that and I just wanted you to make sure you could explain that further in the record as well so yeah the live local act allows for uh a certain amount of of
development of what the state considers a affordable housing um as long as it's an affordable housing project but that means 40% of the units have to be affordable housing under the state definition um this is allowed in any commercial industrial or mixed use
District um the state is considering now a bill that would uh better Define the mixed use uh districts um we obviously have a vested interest in how they Define it because the goal
is not to have this area uh live local development basically trumps any kind of local zoning uh so what we'd like to do is find a sweet spot where it is um uh attractive enough to to development that
it they remain local they don't build under the state regulations and you know destroy our our our whole planning strata so let's put let's put a pin of that conversation we'll get back to when we discuss it here but I just wanted to have that out there uh further public comment please at this
time so I heard you say that it requires 40% of the build um density to be affordable housing if it's mixed use mm Ur whatever it is no no no you didn't if it's live local act under the under the
state regulations in order to basically ignore our local zoning yeah have to override us to override us they have to have 40% of what the state considers affordable housing which is different from the common definition of affordable housing what what is it 120% of Ami yeah
40% 120% 40% of the units and not more than 120% of Ami which is not particularly cheap yeah okay further public comment floor's open seeing no one in the audience at this
time Madam clerk is there anyone online no one's online okay so we will close uh the public hearing at this time uh colleagues discussion uh commission Rodriguez your the mayor yeah um Mr City attorney uh Tony do we know those lots are do they
land in the in the Todd are are they a mile away or are they further than from the station these are not we do not have these designated as Transit oriented development so then live local here wouldn't apply no live local still applies on any commercial industrial or mixed use or mixed use then we need to
be that's been the biggest concern so yes so I I I was going to suggest you know um this has always been the point of sensitivity for me since we started talking about Sunset Place and the impacts of that zoning change on neighboring communities I've always had 62nd Avenue in mind so I I think look I
think I'd like to I'd like to move the item for adoption with a caveat that we probably take up on second reading after the session closes so we know with some level of predictability what Tallahassee has adopted and whether we want to move forward with this this this particular
designation uh based on modifications they may or may not make to the live local act that could impact what we decided to do here so yeah I want to can I clarify two things yes you may yeah uh the the current zoning of those Parcels
is neighborhood retail they are already a commercial District okay so they it to the extent that the state uh moves forward with House Bill 943 as written which I'm sure will change some uh
there's still exposure understood but but query whether is it the is it the land use or the zoning that is the Arbiter of whether they're eligible that's what I don't remember right now and I'm asking you it's the zoning it's the zoning it's the zoning
okay so yeah zone for mix zone for commercial industrial or mix use okay so we have exposure today correct correct so just keep that in mind that's fine thank you for the clarification yep colleagues forther discussion the actual land the way the width it I mean proportionally it's very
difficult part to build structure it's very difficult to put the structure in a highrise so I think we're pretty safe on there but yeah no I agree just making sure it's an excellent comment I agree di mentions your talk that's it okay is there a motion I'll move the motion okay is
there a second second we have a motion by commissioner Cay a second by the vice mayor uh Madam clerk if you can call the role on item one please yes commissioner Cay yes commissioner Rodriguez yes vice mayor Cory yes mayor Fernandez yes item pass first reading thank you if you can
read item two please item two in ordinance of the May City Commission of the city of South Florida amending the future land use map of fut land use element City comprehensive plan pursuant to a small scale Amendment procedure set forth in Section 163 3187 for the
statutes to change their future land use destination of certain Parcels Parcels located at north side of Southwest 64th Street genery between Southwest 59th Avenue on the East and Southwest 59th place on the west from the current
designation of mixed residential moderate density mrmd to townhouse res presidential TR thank you madam clerk uh Mr Alvarez you are recognized for your presentation thank you mayor Mark alvers the cordino group uh consultant planning
consultant for the city uh this is similar um however we have four Lots along 64th Street that are currently designated on the teacher land use map as mrmd uh mixed residential moderate density this is also a category that we
seek to eliminate U from the text and we have provided to strike that out um it's it's again this is a consolidation when we discuss um at again we started this discussion in this summer uh we talked about changing much of this area to a
townhouse designation um so we are taking only these four Lots because they are um designated with mixed presidential moderate density which is a category that we are eliminating from the future lus element I have had some owners uh call and why we aren't doing
the rest of some of the other area um and that's the reason we do intend to do this to the larger area and we'll have that discussion in the future we wanted to make this change to these four Lots because we want to eliminate this category from the text of the
comprehensive plan so it is sponsored by the city Administration it is again a small scale amendment process um and and I explained the reason why and again it is consistent with all with everything that we we discussed in the workshops and how we want to start trying to redevelop this
area one of the things since we just had a live local discussion as part of the last item um this area has been looked at to um make some changes particularly along 64 Street and uh one of the reasons we don't want to go to mixed use
is exactly because we don't want to change the protection from the local right now um it's a it's a residential category um yeah it's a residential category it's written like it almost could not be but it is considered residential and we're going to keep it
residential townhouse residential is also a residential category that has a little leeway for this work um on the bottom so the whole live local disuss again we are continuing to protect this area from the effec of live
local Mr Please Mr Al very quickly just to kind of summarize and recap what you just said these Parcels are not eligible today for live local and the change we are making will not make them eligible for live local is that correct that's correct okay thank you next slide
please um and these are the four Parcels they are each um duplex Parcels two living units each um they are 63 by 100 ft deep 63 feet wide on the on the front um and we we again the reason we're picking the four Parcels out and not
doing others it's just because they have a category that we seek to eliminate from the Tex to the comprehensive PL next slide please um so there there locations that they are they are actually approximately across from Madison Square um and they
are surrounded on their rear side and the actually on the East Side by single family residential the one that's on the west side does actually a but a bank and parcel that is zon mucr um so we again we we can't control
that transition but we can control what we're changing today and these will continue to be insulated from the local and they'll the townhouse residential basically creates a better development potential for these areas um it's not really focused on duplex but on tow
houses a pretory with with a Adu on the bottom or a uh live work on the bottom next slide please and again the map change um the subject land right now has a it sits there with
the with the um mrmd designation it's different from everything else around it um we're still doing the same thing which is different from everything else around it again we do intend to bring the townhouse designation into more areas of this neighborhood we just want
to take care of these four because we're eliminating the mrmd category next slide please and again the this has the change from the um future land use map category from
mrmd currently um there could be 13 units on on this land they the way the land is divided up they're eight duplexes um the density allowance for townhouse residential which the future land use
map uh C the future land use category for townhouse residential is quite dense but the zoning will will change this and how they can fit into that area will change this um currently right now actually these four Parcels are also zoned um RS3 which is not actually
consistent with mrmd um we will leave the zoning and we will intend to reone these later when we're doing this more comprehensively um I've spoken to some of the owners of the property and explained what we're doing um that in fact each of these Parcels
would instead of having a d ref Lex on them would be allowed to have two tow houses each townhouse would have a unit above and possibly an Adu on the bottom so it does double the density um and creates an envelope that's much more developable and that's what we want to
see on 64 Street um again we're not changing the zoning yet but the townhouse zoning is already in place it has um it has a lot it has allowances for these Parcels the
63t uh um with is consistent with the zoning again we haven't zoned it but when we do these will fit in perfectly these are exactly what we intended to change the zoning four and then finally the last slide is criteria if you can go to the next slide
um is the criteria we always apply these criteria so that we're satisfying State statutes and so that we make sure that we don't do anything that's going to make a um something that's no longer orderly in compatible or will have adverse effects we do believe that this will be beneficial to the neighborhood
as we move towards resoning it and will create a product that is something that will help re establish redevelop the neighborhood with a very you know positive and desirable product that doesn't change the neighborhood it still has front doors it
still has the neighborhood feeling to it that just allows more and more affordable housing as well as um the possibility to have good work on the bottom because it is a 60 post is more of a collector Street there are any questions
colleagues any questions Mr Alvarez or the City attorney none okay let's open up the public hearing um anyone who like to address this Commission on item two please come forward at this time your name and address for the record good evening again shant Wells 6102 Southwest
68th Street I am in disbelief at what I'm hearing today because in essence what I'm hearing is the desire to eliminate the people long long time people who look just like me from being in that parcel to affect the church that is also along the street of that parcel
that has had that lot and a and an actual house right there on the corner of 64th Street changing the Zoning for what purpose we all know if you build New Town Homes none of that will be affordable and none of those people who currently live there will be able to
return there so what purpose would it be other than gentrification there is absolutely no reason for us to sit up here and to do this to people who have worked hard to own these properties not only that the the whole fancy words of
changing this and then future land use for what we have what we need right now we have a whole bunch of capacity and if we wanted to actually do a sprucing up of the actual Street which we've already done but there's nothing that's going to be more affordable than what's already
currently present so let's not sit up here and try to you make make this thing seem like friendly let's call it what it is I have a problem with this this proposition I have a problem with the fact that any of you if you're considering to vote to change that to town homes you know good and full well
none of those people will be able to afford it and it sickens me that we would sit up here and try to play these games after people have spent their lives building this city there's no place else like 64th Street and to use the term a more positive what's not
positive about my people what's wrong with 64th Street Street as it is what's going on along the street where the corridor of the church is what's wrong with having those duplexes absolutely nothing and you all should be ashamed of yourselves if you do vote to go and pass
this don't think that I will sit up here and let this go just nicely and you sir on that Zoom you should also be ashamed of yourself those people worked hard that is affordable housing already currently and our community is positive thank you
disagree with everything you said with the exception of the fact that the community is positive Miss Williams you recognized all right let's J the Williams 6477 Southwest 60th Avenue um one of the questions I had is um they re they not too long ago did a street skate
to kind of it's kind of swervy there so it kind of limited um that so I don't know if that is part of the plan to expand that if they're planning to increase the I don't know sorry I don't know if they're planning to expand that when they're talking about increasing the density the other thing I would say is
that when you are talking about the town home the question I have is what is the difference because right now when you have a single story designation you can build two stories so what is the difference between that and what the town home designation is because it seems like it's a little bit more dep
and then you mentioned something about Adu so I think now you can apply for uh um um some kind of permit to do an Adu without that so what makes that the thing for for this current um slated project and have there been traffic
studies done because right now um that's a small Street even though it goes kind of both ways and it's a main thoroughfare to the residents in that neighborhood which I'm one of and then also through University of Miami I want to know that we built two other projects in that area what traffic studies are
they doing to ensure that if you're increasing density how that's going to affect you know the residents so so let's let's um take that in pieces if we can so we can get all her questions answered so U Mr City attorney or or Mr Alvarez if you can
explain what can be built under the current category I heard a question about Adu specifically yeah is that allowed today and would it be authorized under the uh new proposed category and then what's the difference between single family home twostory and this
town home residential Cor yeah okay so if uh let's start with remember that this is only the comprehensive plan this is not the zoning right right so the zoning doesn't change with this but under this comprehensive plan designation there there is the ability to do adus okay so
that that is that that's contemplated in this it would it would have to be implemented through the not not allowed today with the current with the current that's I want to I want to clarify the distinction for her correct not permitted so adus are not allowed under the current category correct they will be moving forward so an
existing owner could build an auxiliary unit provided that they get the zoning in place in place to do it in the future correct okay yes okay next question was regarding I think the envelope of the building yeah basically what's the difference and what it can be like to what so for example I know I saw
something on the previous screen that said something about 10 units per um per like I don't know how many square feet I don't know how big the lot would be I'm just trying to figure out what the difference is but tyal uh South Miami single family residential versus the town homes okay so so again this is not
this is not the zoning this part of it right so what this contemplates is townhouse townhouse residential has a total density of no greater than 36 dwelling units per net acre however if
you don't count the adus that number is 20 units per acre under this category the 20 units per so for a city Cent what is the current density the current density under the comprehensive plan I'm getting there um it actually yeah it's a little
tricky it's it's well go ahead Mark yeah the current the current density is 6.91 is quite low um but again I I I didn't hear that clearly did you say 6.91 yeah 6.91 okay is that so so I so I
mean I've never seen a a density designation uh you know with 200s of a fraction so I'm assum is it fair to assume Mr Al when they created this category they basically created to allow what was there today and nothing else based on your Bas based on your
professional experience yeah and it's based on the the uh sizes that they would allow okay so Bas basically we have we have we have an existing designation and density that fits whatever was on the parcel when that was adopted is what it
sounds like to me is that correct yes okay so okay I just want you had further questions uh yes I just wanted to know whether are there traffic studies like when you did this Flume and you know because I don't remember being invited to any of the shetes or meetings but when you were
having the discussions did you discuss you know traffic impacts and just the the the need for services in that area how does it impact the community as a whole because we've had a lot in that short area and there are other areas in South Miami that are underdeveloped and
we are not in that zone that Todd District so I'm I'm trying to figure out you know where this is going I like I said I like the fact that some of it is being downgraded but if you're telling me that this this new um distinction is is more units than really it's it's it's
a little bit more than what we already have there so I'm concerned about that yeah so we we've done data and Analysis that were required to by the state to support each each one of these designations we submitted uh so so that
the process is clear uh the text amendments that were adopted that created this this District or actually that amended this District um went to there was an initial planning study it went to I think three or four
public hearings three or four uh uh I guess discussion uh agendas you know uh yeah but let me let's let's cuz I I know we're going to get by way of a comment and it's a fair comment which is there was not notice of those public hearings other than General notice and the reason for that Miss Williams is that those
were legislative actions right the the reason these were noticed is because we've identified a subset of parcels that are being specifically affected so we have specifically affected Parcels the notice the surrounding notice rules apply I still am not receiving those I know my time is running but I still am
not receiving that and the mail and you know with in that zone that that mile radius we're not getting it and I think that if you if you had more feedback because I understand going through the State Legislative process but there's a legislative process that happens here first with the feedback from the residents to see is this what we want
it's not just for sale throughout for whomever wants to develop of course any developer wants to it's a great area but what is going to fit in with the current topography what's going to fit in for the residents I think that that is the piece that we want to make sure that's being heard so that and that and I think
there's another concept here I just want to elaborate on for the benefit of the audience the comprehensive plan is kind of like the Constitution right and you know your zoning is your regulations right that that actually put into practice and so historically these
things I think in South Miami it's fa say have been what I would say is lockstep they've been the same one of the same so the same standards uh are found in the comp plan and and the zoning code so they they've worked exactly the same with this category again to the to the city attorne these
point before which I'm not sure everyone captured we do have the opportunity of having a much more liberal right designation like this one for the parcels of the comp plan but limiting it to exactly the V we have today under the zoning the only thing I I mean I I understand what you're saying but we've
had shetes before we've gone through this process and usually what's in that Flume that future land land use map is what they want to enact because then we've had developers through the city to say hey this is what you guys said you can't now zone for something that this is what it was so I I just want us to
Care fut land use we only get locked in into that situation when we've adopted a zoning category that we can't back off of but we are on and I think the City attorney can reiterate this we are on perfectly solid legal ground if our comp plan because again it's it's supposed to be a future land use map right so it's
talking about a 20 when I'm g a 20y year Horizon we're not talking about just today that's the plan that's the master plan for the community right so consider that we need single family as well and we need duplex as well everything doesn't have to be up Zone but I'll talk more about the next it yeah and and
again I just wanted for for because I know you've asked this question a few times can we just kind of get to the bottom of the notice issue and U Mr City attorney with respect to the zoning that will follow since it will affect only a handful of parcels it will also be noticed correct if it's if it's yeah
site specific rezoning yes so the companion zoning the companion Zoning for this parcel right so again first shot at the Apple we hear you there'll be another opportunity right there will be notice associated with the absolutely okay so the process is after second
reading uh then you're noticing people by mail is that what the process is currently or no no no after this after the comprehensive plan designation process individual land owners could petition the city to change the zoning and that will require all sorts of
notice right but that's individual land I'm talking about the surrounding area so you no longer have the respons no no no so two things I just two concepts one is these owners that they're today could ask for a resoning consistent with his designation correct
option one right that would trigger notice to the surrounding neighborhood of course yes correct me if I'm wrong that's right secondly we could come in and say we want to adopt rules that render it more consistent with the current character of the neighborhood
right that would be a resoning process as well it would also trigger notice so when we complete this process to implement these regulations there's got to be a category adopted right yes well no we already have a category we so let
me clarify yes this is what I want to clarify yeah yeah sure so so we have the text of this designation says that the following zoning districts are consistent rt18
which is a townhouse District rt9 which is a two family District rt6 which is uh you know just a slightly lesser duplex District low density multif family residential which is rm18 and medium
density multif family residential rm24 all of these any one of these districts would be consistent with this with this designation but the question is what will be the designation at the or do we have is a site designated under our under our uh zoning today under our
zoning Atlas presently it is RS3 okay so it's a single family designation or zoning District okay so are we going to is that that category is not consistent with this compline designation it would not be consistent with this so we would have to we would at least have to rezone
it to a category that is consistent yes however let me that we do have a provision which says any existing use and occupancy uh is deemed consistent yeah because his grandfather no but but even we have like like an overt like an
Express grandfather Grandfather Clause that doesn't mean we don't have to adopt a category a designation that's consistent that is correct okay so yeah so what's there can remain no doubt right okay but we will have to come back through through a subsequent process yes and rezone at the very least we will
have to rezone it to render it consistent with this compl designation is that correct that's correct okay but one more thing the only thing I have an issue with I'm sure that there are some developers that own those properties as rentals I remember them changing hands I mean we can look that information up I'm concerned that that is the goal and we
will have the maximum density built which is the issue that we're having throughout and I'm gonna I'm just going to leave it there and I'll just talk to them next side thank you Mr Williams okay for yes sir you're recognized Mr Jacobs thank you U what I understand is
see if it's correct it's zoned for six units per acre and it's going up to 18 per acre if you okay this it's not Z it's well it's plus a change in zoning it would require a change in zoning on top of this so you're
tentatively agreeing to 18 units per acre we we are adopting a land step toward it we're we're preparing the for for anything between zero and 18 okay that's yes forther public comment Mr Mr
Ward you recognized you know when I listened to this both pros and con this lady right here had the nail on the head the people of the neighborhood are
going to be displaced over a period of time I don't care how much you want to say it won't happen it will happen I saw there I think I saw on one of the screens 10 tow houses
where where are the people going to be those hwn houses are going to have to find property to build on and some of the property there's a lot of rental property in these areas and I remember one apartment building on 62nd Avenue at one
time was redone inside everybody in the apartment was given a written statement your apartment will be available when we finish sounds good doesn't it except
they were paying $300 a month and when they came back under the new one it was going to be six so they got their they got their apartment back you could be they didn't and this young lady hit it on the head I don't care what has been said
here today by me or her or the other lady or Lee the votes for to nothing thank you yes uh further public comment is there anyone the audience like to speak on item
two anyone online Madam clerk yeah okay see no one online and no one else in the audience will close public hearing commissioner Rodriguez you're recognized thank you Mr Mayor U Mr Alvarez can you answer me this question um Maybe I'm
Wrong I think I'm right um throughout the entire city didn't we get rid of the the designation of duplex and convert it to town home through the entire
city the uh we have not done that at this time we did move in the text changes for the zoning to support a townhouse so the idea is that we were going to change all the duplex currently like the ones on Sunset
and 63rd and all those designations we're going to move to town homes or be changed to town homes correct and and the reason we did that was to establish two things we would have um a PR so for example if you
had say one of these properties which are 6'3 fet wide you could take the duplex there redevelop it as a townhouse actually two tow houses each 25t wide have the same two or two new market rate units on the top and still have an
affordable unit as an Adu on the bottom and so that was the configuration that we realized was a much more modern uh configuration that gave us a little more affordable housing and allowed a very soft mixed use by allowing all an
alternative of a um live work occupation on the bottom so while we haven't done it yet and this is probably the first time we're actually moving this this um designation this is the first time we're actually doing it you know the others were already existing this is the first
time we're doing it and that is the intent to create an envelope that we can actually get a little more um without losing the neighborhood effect the whole idea of the townhouse was to make sure that all of our doors face the street so that we still have a neighborhood that
people still come out on the street the idea was not to have necessarily um a multi family development where people are no longer facing their doors on the street and taking care of the street okay thank you further questions
yes commission Cory um as a possible result of this uh would it be feasible that just some of these properties added an Adu to them and had additional housing on the property are they not big enough for
that that is I I I haven't analyzed each one of these for for that question but that that is a possibility an Adu is permitted right um and an Adu would have to be uh would have to serve uh a the lowi income category or lower okay all
right thank you y further comments questions Mr attorney just I have a question um can you reiterate the zoning category again that are consistent with this designation yeah
rt18 which is the townhouse District okay which allows a density of what 18 units per acre okay rt9 okay rt6 rm18 which is also 18 un per
acre rm24 subject to the caveat that it cannot exceed 20 units per acre and r o subject to a 20 units per acre and what is RO residential office okay so that allows for an office use
yeah on the corridor yes yeah in but it would only be allowed in connection with a live work unit okay Mr Alvarez if we were to just to kind of get to um I want to address some of the angst about this particular action which from my perspective was being done just to
basically consolidate categories and have a more um manageable gentlemen I apologize we're trying to have a conversation I'm hearing your conversation as well in the background um we're trying to consolidate
categories so we have a much more workable code for the purposes of our staff right uh as opposed to a bunch of one-off categories that have been created over over the last couple decades Mr Al what what re what what zoning designation would you recommend
be adopted for these Parcels to keep it consistent with the development category just to understand what that would look like we intend to recommend rt18 a town house designation okay but that that was not my question my question was what would
you recommend to keep it consistent with the car current character of the the existing character of the uh improved condition so what what designation would allow you to rebuild exactly what's there today let me simplify the question
um as as we consolidate it would still be the RT well what's the what's let me let me let me rephrase the question again what is the what is the least intense designation that we could impose on
these Parcels to allow for the units that are there today to be rebuilt without them being non-conforming the least intense would be the rt6 rt6 okay so colleagues I think that's what I
would just I just wanted to have that articulated so we understand as we look at making a decision about the designation on a going forward basis if we want to address some of the issues that we're hearing today about possible displacement the best thing we can do is
when we bring this item back for resoning is Select an rt6 uh designation I'm happy to sponsor that um if that's the disposition of the board and come with May in the future people can make a request to change the category to something else but at least we provide a direct translation from
what is there today so it'll be there at least for the for the near term so is there a motion on item two if there's no further discussion I'll move the motion there okay second so a motion by commissioner Cay and a second by vice mayor Corey Madam clerk if you can call
the RO on item two please yes Vice May Cory yes commissioner Rodriguez yes commissioner Cay yes mayor Fernandez yes I pass first reading If You Could Read item three please item three in ordinance of the mayor City Commission
of the city of South Florida amending the future land use map of the future land use element of the city of southman comprehensive plan pursuant to small scale Amendment procedure set forth in Section 163 3187 for the statutes to change the future land use designation
of certain PRS on South on the south side of Southwest 64th ter CH between Southwest 60th Avenue on the East and Southwest 61st court on the west from the current designation of Mi mixed use residential Moder density
mrmd to town house residential TR thank you madam clerk thank you madam clerk uh Mr alvare you're recognized for your presentation thank you Mark AL C planning consultant for City this is extremely similar to um the 64th Street
that we just discussed these Parcels commonly we call them mango Parcels are currently designated mrmd which is a mixed residential moderate density category so they are they are not they are designated for a
sort of a duplex type unit uh we intend to uh change that designation to townhouse residential for the same reason that we intend to eliminate category of mrmd and use townhouse residential as our general category for
all the townhouse type dwelling units or designations that we can have different zoning categories for it is sponsored by the city Administration it is also a smallscale amendment process and uh it is also continually consistent with what we discussed in the
workshop in the summer and as we moved forward with the future lus element text that we would be looking at as we go north from the the the downtown designation to um come into this area with a townhouse designation to
transition next slide please so the the area that we're talking about it is currently um it is all vacant it is owned by the city it comprises an acre almost even um it's comprised of three Parcels there's um I
think there's been some concern about the strip on the edge the strip on the edge going back to when it was was um put together was actually from another another plating and it does have a restriction for no construction and I think the Restriction still is with it
um however we are taking this all together and um we we don't the fact that there's a restriction on that small strip on the mend wouldn't affect what could be done as far as any any development there we could look at the whole parcel next slide
please um so is an unusually shaped parcel and the East is a single Family Residence and that single family residence is in historic reservation overlay it is the former home of Marshall Williamson who who actually was had donated much of this land and even
the JRE school to um to the city and to the county um so this parcel goes around that home to a certain extent um and then on the west side of it is the JRE Le School in 61st Court um the
designation of that is educ ational at the moment and north of that on is 64th Terrace we have single family homes across from it to the North and to the south of it it AB buts on the S lot lines two single family homes um so it
is mostly surrounded by single family homes and it is across from the school but the rear side of the J school and it somewhat Works around um the the former home of Marshall Williamson next slide
please um and I I I failed to say too it is caddy corner across from um the Madison Square to the Northeast um so again this is very similar to the last one we are changing just the future land
use map we are eliminating the mrmd category we want to replace it with townhouse residential next slide please and the the a facts are very much the same um I know it was a bit of a complicated discussion but the townhouse residential future land use category
allows 36 units an acre the zoning would only allow 18 units an acre and the reason for that was to account for the adus on the comprehensive plan uh right now there's the mrmd allows this you know
6.91 units an acre six six residences could be built there um but they would be basically duplex residences um so we are increasing the density but again this is something that
will be controlled as much of the TR category when we get to resoning the TR is very much controlled by the dimensions and the and the site the dimensions of the lot um in this case it's a little bit more open and we would um we would look at the zone at time and
res Zone and and when somebody comes in to redevelop it or I guess of the Cities when somebody has uh an idea next slide please and finally the same categories for consistency we want to make sure that it's consistent with the state
requirements in chapter 163 we've gone through the all eight of them and find it to be consistent if we want to have a discussion I'm open to questions colleagues questions Mr Alvarez U Mr alers just just I know on page four of your staff report you
um made mention in the second second or the First full paragraph uh our discussion on February 4th about the par a park designation I thought we had we had we had moved to designate um I think roughly not less
than 8,000 square F feet of the Northeast portion of this lot for a park in honor of Dr Anna price um why why not bring this item with the POs designation or was this item prepared in advance of that discussion this this item was prepared in advance of that discussion okay that's just what
I wanted to clarify okay so um Mr C attorney then a question to you if our Express intent through that resolution on the fourth has already been to designate that portion as a park would we bring back this item with it with that POS designation on second reading
or should we continue this item read vertise it with that modification we can we can do we can do the ladder or we could proceed with this item we could also pull back the the
uh uh the boundary for this uh for this change if you want to do that and then just come come back with a separate item BR separate item for the park we could do that I I guess my only my only reservation about this item right
um and let me let me that was my question let me say that for the for discussion no other questions of the two attourney for staff okay see no questions from the co my colleagues on the commission why don't we open up this item for public hearing there any member of the public who would like to address this Commission on item three please come
forward at this time good evening Wells 6102 Southwest 68th Street thank you I have a few questions how did the city come to acquire this
specific lot that we as the locals refer to the Marshall Williamson slot how did you guys come to own it Mr C you have that answer or maybe we can rely on the good office of Mr MCC if he's perhaps the off Mr MCC would be easier I know it came through the CRA
yeah but that was my my guess Miss Wells it was acquired by the CRA but I don't know that definitively Mr M could you just for the record clarify for us it was acquired of by the sh um uh the purpose was to possibly included in our
Madison Square initiative um and um it was uh at one time U um we tried to put all the portions together uh for that aspect and that was during the days of U of the C
okay thank you so we got rid of the CRA and do you believe as a governmental body that what you're proposing to do was the intention of Mr
Marshall Williamson when he donated this is that was that the purpose when it was initially acquired what you're seeking to do now was that the purpose I just need someone to tell me I I I don't think any one of us can speculate as to what was in the mind of Marshall Williamson when
he donated the property I will I will say what we what we have had conversations about I'll tell you what I certainly have said on the record one is I think that I wanted to designate a portion of this land as a park uh to preserve some of the canopy that's there
because of that Legacy also I've had conversations with inance about getting together the family because I think it's important for us as a city to preserve his Homestead and make the combination those two two two lots possibly a cultural heritage site for the city to recognize memorialize that history um
there's a competing interest which is the C my understanding of the C plan historically was for the majority of this lot to be developed for town homes for affordable town homes for the benefit Community we've had some conversations about reserving the balance for that purpose uh Mr MCC
mentioned their madon Square initiative my my review of the historical records was that at one point possibly about 10 or 12 years ago this lot was put out for RFP Mr Mr alers if you can mute your microphone was put out for RFP uh in
conjunction with the parcels that were developed and awarded and negotiation rights were awarded to that developer to develop the site as part of that project that those negotiations apparently never went forward so the parcel when the CRA ceased to exist was reverted back to the
city as the local governing unit and that's how we ended up in possession but what we do with it is uh can be within the range of any of those options I believe believe what staff is proposing is a category that gives us uh a certain amount of flexibility to
accomplish any all those goals now so my issue is this that lot hasn't been developed on for a purpose it has been that way for a reason Mr Marshall Williamson really sacrificed and built that entire community and what I'm
seeing happening now is there used to be apartments on the other side there there's been a portion of it that was dedicated to housing as that was important for him but what I'm seeing is a consistent pattern there are other empty lots that were brought up even as you guys were campaigning there are
other areas but every single area that was formerly considered the CRA area now we're going through this whole land use the this is nothing but fancy talk for a gentrification there's no need to get rid of these the the the actual trees that are there so is this supposed to
become now a concrete jungle like in the Northeast we already got those type of policing like strategies that are happening now in the area so what is the purpose what would be the purpose that is not why Mr Marshall Williamson has that lot and I really really would encourage you all to go ahead and come
back and allow more residents to come forward before you make a determination on this because I can tell you this will not sit well with the with the rest of the residents had they known this now I do like the idea of the Anna uh um I want to call her Dr Price that's fine
former mayor price having that designation piece of that but to sit up here and to have a plan for housing for all of this that's never been a part of the plan ever maam I I all I can tell you is what's in the record I don't want to argue with you but I I I I frankly want to defend the motives of this
commission I for one have no interest in gentrifying anyone I've commented about the fact that in my six years in public office when I walked the neighborhood six times in 2018 I've seen the change in a very short period of time uh I've even suggested that we preserve this
parcel completely as a park in its entire its entire configuration today again I'm one person we will have a conversation of the board we've had different we have now different members when we started the conversation a year and a half ago but I think again I just I just I just
urge you um not to impute the motives of the people that are sitting here because frankly we're trying to honor what we have seen in the written record and the written record as the vision for this area as memorialized in the C plan was to have develop on this parcel now I'm
not saying that's right but that's what was in the plan created for created for this parcel by that entity that no longer exists we can choose to do that or we can choose not to do that what we're doing today is adopting a category that would give us the flexibility to do
it I would like to see us possibly consider this item after it's deferred and at least in scon the one corner that we've already said we want to keep a park to memorialize the great legacy of the Reverend Dr Anna price uh reflected on the map that we adopt so again thank
you for your comments but again I just urge you let's have some conversation so we all can get to understand what we're trying to accomplish I I hear and understand your frustrations and concerns but uh again I I one of the things I love about South Miami's it's diversity the last thing I want to see
is that Legacy that history completely wiped out okay I just read body language as I read body language the last time and many of you guys seem disinterested in what's being said here not just by myself but When Miss Williams was speaking so I just want us to to be
clear as to where this is coming from as well thank you for your time thank you for comments Mr Ward you recognized this commission I think is
probably approved more major development projects in the short time you've been there than any Commission in the history of this city you know you all are elected by the people not the developers but you're representing the developers you're not
representing the residents this city and that's a shame because most of you and all of you in my opinion are well-intended people but you just somehow or other can't connect with the fact that the
people are not pleased you see one the trouble is one is not enough your developers are running this city now thank you Mr Jacobs once again you're you're looking
at an increase of six units per acre to 18 units per acre it's to me it's a sacrilege on land that was donated in the black community for a certain purpose for the good of that Community which used to be completely
black and it was for their good uh a community needs some space some place for the kids to go from place to sit out in the shade and that's what that provided to provide a little 8,000
foot square for it is not enough it should be the whole thing it should be a park and if it's not did the CRA I heard them say that it was for affordable housing 100% affordable housing can you
do that six stories 18 units per Acer of affordable housing thank you Mr Proctor good evening even uh good evening Mr Mayor commissioner Jerry Proctor I'm an attorney uh with office at 7600 Red Road
in South Miami um I represent a brew development uh which uh is a current uh property owner and developer in the city of the Madison Square development um we uh have uh engaged in
the beginnings of discussions uh to potentially develop part of this property um I'm coming forward tonight uh with a little bit of hesitation because normally when I stand
here I represent a property owner you are the property owner and you have the control as you do even when a private property owner stands in front of you so you know we recognize that you are the
not only the decision maker in terms of the land use but in this case you're the property owner um what but I would commit to you and I have a a couple of commitments and a suggestion as someone who has interest
not someone who owns the property yet um the commitments are that if my client moves forward in any tangible way on this matter that any proposal that we make and we're not in a position to make
a complete proposal tonight will include affordable housing the second commitment is any proposal that we make will include a suggestion to you as property owner that
part of the land be designated and held in park use in honor of Mayor price um I hope that those commitments are helpful uh my suggestion uh having heard from
from members of the community tonight and having heard from you is that if you pass this matter forward on first reading tonight that perhaps you consider a delay of the second reading uh in order for these
conversations to continue not only involving my client but yourselves the community uh and that perhaps the second reading be delayed until the middle of April or
thereabouts uh something to allow the discussion to continue uh again we're not the property owner but we come forward with these suggestions and commitments uh as a way to hopefully help the conversation thank
you thank you sir M Williams good evening again Londa Williams 6477 Southwest 60th avue you know going to talk really fast I don't have much time uh well first of all you guys know I live over there across the street from my house um no disrespect to the developer but he's trying to get a
job for his client and you guys are part of us you're not only residents you're elected officials we voted for you we're hoping that you're going to listen to our concerns so with that being said I was on the CRA board when they transitioned that and initially Madison
Square at the four height that it is four stories was not a thing which is why they were trying to preserve the Madison Square lot because when the housing was lost it was 80 units of housing that was lost and people were displaced so Madison Square was supposed to be the replacement of that they've
built two two different Parcels that the Mr BR group um that I think is connected with our County Commissioner um reg regalato um but with that being said we've we've done that part already what we don't have in that space and I did
contact the County mayor Cava is very much um a part of making sure that we have a heat officer there is a heat index for every cubic fo foot of of of concrete that we're adding there is a temperature increase that's a proven fact and we need open green spaces I
don't mean green spaces in little Parcels we need a space it's for wind mitigation it's for for hurricanes it's for flood mitigation so there are other factors not just having housing if you are going to consider housing there is a place that AB buts on the opposite end
directly in front of the park why would it be in front of the residence we already have had we had to fight having four stories of budding single family homes we don't have a 75 foot buffer I don't know if that's a new thing but we barely have the soos they they're so tired of coming I almost beg Angie to
come with me tonight she doesn't she's over it she said she's tired you know we have so much trash that has come about from the mixed use facility traffic just all kinds of things big trucks down the street early in the morning and we are trying to preserve not only that that
fruit FR from those trees it you can't grow that I've been growing a mango tree in my yard from those pits for 12 years it still hasn't produced any fruit it's starting it looks like we're going to have a good year this year but nonetheless that's something that he was proud of not only did he eat that frood and his wife planted those trees but it
was for the community and let me tell you we still utilize that people still come by there they grab this you the only fruit I found better is in the Redlands and our Dr Boward that used to work with me at um God Rest his soul he used to bring them to work and they were delicious that's the only fruit that can rival that I offer you guys during the
season to go by and try one but it's not just about that it's about the community and being able to have a space that's open every space doesn't have to be filled and I I I've done this now for how many years and when I was on the board and I've gotten awful lot of boards because I don't have the time but it's very important to me for us to
preserve it not just for Dr Price but also for medicine for for um Marshall Williamson his family still lives there in that house they're right next door so whatever we put there they're going to be affected by it and me as well thank you you thank you for your comments further comments Mr
MC thank you for clarifying James M 6210 souw 63 terrorist um is there a way um um to postpone the second reading uh to get a better perspective to the actual
Community uh about these items tonight um we're going to have a community meeting on the 19th at the uh Community Center um at 6:00 and if it's possible could someone come so that we can reach a broader
majority of the immediate area just to heal the concerns and um just to give their input so they'll know what's coming is is that possible it is I said I was GNA have some comments that regard uh as well at the end of the discussion
so okay appreciate it uh second thing is is going to be uh about the traffic um there with the traffic study uh before there's a major um incident and I have talked to people about 64th Street in front of um um the dollar store 64th and
60th Avenue 64th and Fifth and nth place that is a potential um Hazard there we we don't want anything to happen to the kids or anybody that's uh disabled coming come outst I was there uh just uh uh today to see the traffic there and
can we initiate something with the county um to sort of do something to try to at least stop or slow down the traffic so people can come by uh especially doing um the U the rush hours when kids are coming to and from school okay
okay thank you Mr M further comments seeing no one in the audience M clerk is there anyone online no so we will close the public hearing at this time time uh colleagues commiss K you recognized um Mr MC
speaking about the crosswalk you don't you don't need to stand up talking about the crosswalk we had designated it in our CIP budget to make sure that we have illuminated crosswalk there uh it's something that we had in our budget I don't know where we are this year with it I know we have designated more spots throughout the city to make sure that we
have crosswalks and our kids more protected there uh Miller uh 62nd Avenue across the city um so commission can I can I pck you back on just on that item really quickly for a question to the attorney is that is that a location
where we can actually if we were short of CIP dollars could we use proceeds from the uh School cameras to improve pedestrian con connections across 64 Street I don't know the answer to that I
need to look at the statute if you could I'm just curious so that um we know that we have that opportunity there is a school there is a school on the south side of 64th so potentially it's a very important connection if people are traversing that very busy roadway thank you go ahead sir
um so when we first started talking about this park for Dr Price speaking about it for nearly over a year um the idea was always to create a par longer by the way say again longer it was always to create a park um
to leave it as is uh there's been back and forth on the de whether there's already a lot of park space across the street um so my understanding is that we always wanted to do a park I don't know if the cr's intention was to create
affordable housing out there um so the intention was either leave the park or affordable housing now with the creation of set Park that we have a minimum maximum of 8,000 square feet I remember it was Min orax whatever it was um the
ability to do affordable housing the density in that space doesn't really matter there's only much you can create in that little sliver of land so to create um affordable housing there is it really worth it is it even doable to be honest with you at you know in
construction it's not that easy to do affordable housing in that particular spot um to be you got to be really creative with it so just letting the commission know that it's difficult um and we really need to study that so A deferment here might be the best thing
to do you know best thing to do here uh but those are the two issues I always contemplated what what what does a community want so I think what may or you are going to go at do we need to have a public for and really discuss what what we should do with this particular law yeah I was going to go a step further and say we should just
identify an area uh a radius around the this parcel and send people uh a very short questionnaire and ask them between a handful of options what their preferences and maybe they can rank them we can come up with an instrument just ask people their opinion
uh we you know we do often we can leafl door too with our public work staff and and um and get some direct feedback on what their preferences as to the future use of the parcel whether it's um preservation as a park in its entirety
whether it's uh development altogether or whether it's a the combination that we had been we had been discussing at the last meeting when we talked about the park naming so I'm I'd be supportive of that idea uh something that worked really well and I think this is only when we are actually uh designing a park
but when we did it for p we had like a little sandwich board up and with a QR code and people just filled out a survey for what they like the most and we did get a lot of feedback from that I think that would be would be particularly helpful I I have had the benefit of being on this deis with a lot of
different commission members and I would say that of that this commission has had really the best ideas for how to utilize this space in terms of preserving history in terms of creating Community there have been a lot of ideas that have come forward for this lot that
were a lot less attractive than what we're considering but I do think we should put it out to the community see see what everybody wants I've always been a fan of a passive Park I know that that initiative was taken on by the mayor and it was very very difficult when we first started and took us a year
and we we're here so I'm I'm a fan of that but I would love to get more feedback on it too through May yes sir um Shantel and Lashanda um I agree with you Lashanda we work for
you you you don't work for us I I said that many many many times to everybody that I spoke to in the city um being the most recent one to walk your neighborhood and walk the city in general multiple multiple times I I want
you to understand in speaking to a lot of the residents in the community especially the Marshall William in community one of the things that they stated was that they needed housing so for my understanding in speaking to a lot of the residents that
were saying we need to not only and and Mr mcken can can account for this bring back people to South Miami people who have left the the neighborhood we need housing for them for them to come back so for me thinking if we can do
affordable housing here in this lot or in this designation of the lot it would help the community now like I said we work for you if the community doesn't want it I'm okay with voting against it and and not doing anything with that
land I was just trying to follow what the voes of the community but again if the if if if the community doesn't want it then so be it when it comes to my perspective yes ma'am if you want to come forward
we'll recognize you if you can keep it to a minute we'd appreciate it thank you I agree with you I think that um hi L again um just to be very brief I agree with you in terms of the housing but what hasn't been a thing there's a term affordable and I work in different
Avenues and I can tell you that we're talking about for the other project 120% of the area median income um this area medium income is high and so a lot of people that have left you know and I know the people I I always tell them can you hey can we figure out something and a lot of times they just can't because
their incomes are haven't been increased enough to afford what this Ami is so when you're talking about affordable that's really not affordable for the people that left to come back what we would have to look into would be low income and that's become a dirty word you know that's become a dirty word because people don't want to have to
support those projects and like you said it's mixed Ed but I will say that the bru project that they did it has no green space so when it rains whatever runoff we used to have there used to be two shotgun houses there with grass there's no more of that there's no green space so we we have to we have to balance we can't just build build build
and say oh when we get a flood oh wow how did that happen yeah we're going to have that because we have a lot more permeable land so like I said I'm all for that if we want to talk about projects but it doesn't necessarily have to be there there's a huge City it doesn't have to be in that area when people came back we weren't structured
just to that little block that was a certain section we have people in the dark side we have people all over South Miami so I'm not saying that they're going to be in like very highend upscale neighborhoods with these projects we know that that's not what we do being honest but if you are going to talk about that then we have to be realistic
I'm I'm saying in terms of who can come back because we did that with Madison scort we fought like hell to get some excuse me some people back in there but for the most part it's a mix and it's fine the next project was the same the next project was the same so we never really fully get that back the way that we intended especially once you guys are
gone whoever's next pick it up because honestly that was designated for something else something in here said something about 2022 the planning board had already designated that as an open like passive Park and then it just disappeared so if you're talking about 2012 study that was from 2022 and it
didn't happen so as each board changes then the then the focus changes what they promise change so I would like to see it once and for all be something that we can assure that will be there for the community and I do feel Affinity about the mango somebody came the other day to cut off one of the things hat
rcking the tree I was having a fit I'm like what are you doing I have a picture I I didn't send it to you guys but I took it I'm like what you can't do that this the city of South Miami We have tree this is Tree City USA we have ordinances you can't just go doing that okay don't think because we're black I'm not looking I'm looking I see you this
my house it's my investment you know I work so anyway I'm sorry I just wanted to say that the thank you for your comments okay we're gonna we're going to close public hearing if we hadn't already done that but um colleagues I I I'd like to
move to theer the item for so the first meeting in June second and uh with the idea that in the interim we direct the manager to put together some sort of a survey instrument that's delivered door too um Mr Manel I leave
it to you and staff determine what you think is an appropriate radius if it's 500 or 700 feet what you know I'm not sure exactly what the what the right radius believe with you guys to determine and uh if you could kind of circulate the instrument for commment individually by each one of the members
M of the board as soon as you have it ready let's get it out if we can bring the item back with that feedback sooner I'm happy to consider it um that would be my motion to defer it in total uh to at least the first meeting in June with a provisor we could bring it back read advertise and bring it back sooner if we
have Community feedback I don't know that we need a community meeting per se I think I think sometimes not everyone in the community shows up to those meetings because they've got other life commitments I think a direct survey which is what proposing would probably give us a more accurate representation
what people would want so um if there's a mo that'd be my motion if there's a second before the motion M yes sir um I just had a question I know we've been working on a lot of the designations timelines and making sure that we hit this doesn't affect that right this I don't believe it does Mr City attorney
what are the impacts of deferring this item this item would be would be slowed down obviously but we can separate it right we can yes we can pull it out without any pen so uh moved the deferral for is it 60 days or 90 90 days yeah
think you're saying to the first meeting in June which uh is this let's just do this let's defer it to the the first meeting in May that's 60 days that should be enough time for us to get feedback if not we can defer it again if we need more time okay okay first meeting in May is there a second a second okay any discussion on the
deferral so on the on the deferral you um what we would do is is send out a paper and it' be a survey rather than than than PE the the residents coming in and doing yeah and again I'm we can we can do both if that's the preference of
the body my my I think uh you know my experience I I'm a big believer in scientific data you know I spend money polling things and I believe in the science still uh I think if we had a direct survey door to door then a
follow-up once to collect it we probably would get better feedback about what the true wishes are as opposed to just having a community meeting where Maybe maybe for any number of legitimate reasons only a handful of people can show up uh and again given that is you know one of the few remaining green spaces here that's not accounted for in
this neighborhood uh happy to be um you know more um deliberate about what we decided to do here again my my intention from the beginning was to keep this as a green space as as vice mayor Corey had mentioned there was um some push back to that idea because they felt we should
monetize the site originally in some portion and so again trying to get something done particularly in my case trying to get a portion of the site named in honor of Dr Price I was trying to you know strike a compromise there with the with the board at that moment in time uh I I also want to say I was
trying to be respectful of the of the history of the site which again the documents I read very clearly this body the CRA had moved to bif forgate the site and develop it for affordable housing so again my intention was to
honor that Legacy but again not only does this board change the preferen of the community can change as well so again I I see no I see no harm done in in asking people what they want to see at this particular point in time certainly the neighborhood has changed in the decade that uh probably this last
uh idea to develop it was was was considered um through the mayor I I I will go with however you you all decide I I just think um I don't I just I'm I'm afraid to hear we're going to oh it got lost lost in the mail I never received
it in the mail I think the community has shown like we saw in the last commission meeting when it's important to the to the community they're going to show up so I think let's let them show up show show how the importance of it and that I
think it's more impactful would you like to amend the motion then to do can you want to do a combination we can do a combo I think that gives the best of both worlds do a combo fine I'm happy AC the amendment uh is there a date we would like to try to Target or a week I know some of us have travel
schedules first week first week of April makes sense okay so Mr manager if you can identify a date the first week of April for a public meeting and and in the interim I think if we could prepare the survey circulated for comment and get that out uh with an informational notice about a public meeting people can
deliver their surveys uh responses at that meeting or or come in person and speak their mind as well so uh okay we have a a motion as amended is was there a second mayor just a clar would be a meeting uh it would come back to commission for first reading on May 6
that's the first on May 6 that would be announ would not need to re advertise then uh we would not we may want to anyway assuming the item is not modified assuming the feedback is you know Community says develop it as planned we could bring it back without again I'm
just trying to save cost as well so um okay so we'll have a a date certain of May 6 we we'll defer the item to which direction is staff to prepare a survey survey the community and schedule a public meeting date the first week of April I've moved that was there a second
by commissioner Cay vice mayor Cory okay so a motion do you accept the do you accept the modification sir yes okay so we have motion and the second is modified uh any further discussion Madam clerk if you can call the role please commissioner Caye yes commissioner Rodriguez yes vice
mayor Cory yes mayor Fernandez yes IEM pass it to defer thank you seeing no further business before this board we will consider our s adjourned thank you