ready. >> Okay. >> Good evening everyone and welcome. Uh today is Tuesday, May 19th, uh 2026. The time is 700 p.m. We will now call to order the meeting of the South Miami City Commission. Uh if you could please
silence or turn off your cell phones, we would be grateful. Uh Madam Clerk, if you can call the role, please. >> Yes. Mayor Fernandez, >> present. Commissioner Bonish >> here. >> Commissioner Cay >> here. >> Commissioner Rodriguez >> here. >> Vice Mayor Cory >> present.
>> We have a quorum. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. If you could please stand for a brief uh prayer followed by the pledge led by Commissioner Cay. Since we just celebrated law enforcement week, I thought we'd offer a prayer up for our police officers. Almighty God,
whose great power and eternal wisdom embraces the universe, watch over all the members of our law enforcement community everywhere. Protect them from harm in the performance of their duty. Help them, we pray. Keep our streets and homes safe day and night. Grant them strength and courage in their daily
assignments and unite them safely with their families after duty has ended. In Jesus's name we pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Please be seated. >> Colleagues, with your permission, I have to uh leave early this evening uh given a family commitment. So, I'd like to uh suggest that we take some items out of
order after public remarks. So, that may require all of our presence. Um I'm going to suggest the following order for this evening. We'll do uh two brief presentations. Uh so, F1 I'd like to take in combination with item six. Uh
then do a brief presentation uh just um for goodwill week. Uh, I'm going to add that on with if there's no objection. And then I'd like to take items 9, 10, and 11, which are the land use item, which I imagine a good number of people are here for. Uh, item 13, which is a
modification to the to rules. And there is one discussion item, which is M3, uh, which I'd like to just give Commissioner Rodriguez the opportunity to, um, discuss with the full body here. Any objection to proceeding in that fashion? Um, I'd also like to suggest if
you if the board is immenable, I'd like to defer item 14, uh, which is the item 14, which is the sustainability modifications we've discussing, and move that to June 9th. Okay.
Okay. And again, I apologize, but it is my daughter's uh graduation event, so I do need to get there for a portion of it. Um, so with that, uh, I'd like to entertain a mo a motion to defer item 14 so we can get the agenda the proper posture. Is
there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. So, I'll move it. Second by Commissioner Rodriguez. Uh, any objection? Yes. >> Mayor, do you also want to defer item 12 as well? >> Item 12 is the companion. >> It's the solar moratorum item.
>> That may be affected by the sustainable development. >> It is, but we I thought we we we need to extend it anyways, do we not? It's second reading for the extension of the mortorium. >> We can we can extend it but it would be it'd be better to consider them together and you can determine whether you want to >> Okay. Any objection to deferring item 12
as well then? >> No. >> Is there a motion? >> I'll move it. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. So, a motion by Commissioner Gay, a second by Commissioner Rodriguez. Everyone's quick today. >> Okay. Uh >> well, thank you. Without Without opposition, show that also deferred to
June 9th. Yes, >> Mr. Mr. Vice Mayor, I'm assuming he's he'll jump in if >> he's got any objection. >> No objection. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay. So, show items 12 and 14 deferred to June 9th. With that, uh let's open up the floor to
public remarks. U if you've not signed up for public remarks, we do have a signin sheet here in the front. John, we have a list. Thank you. >> Here's the first. And anyone on Zoom, please raise your virtual hand if you would like to speak.
>> Good evening. Kick us off, John Edward. >> John Edward Smith, resident of South Miami, actually 52 years. and business owner for 44 in South Miami. Uh I'd like to call your attention to
what I am referring to as preserving art in public places. Um Somi magazine has published uh in this spring issue u a seinal piece I believe on a look at
public art in South Miami. There are three pieces in this article that I would like to uh call your attention to. >> Uh the first here are the um bass bass reliefs that are at the entrance to the
silver Martin building. I don't know what plans you all have for the silver Martin building, which I'm very concerned, but these bass reliefs uh go back to the 1930s and part of the WPA project uh in the United States. The
second is we have three sculptures, cement sculptures, uh one in Dante Facel, one outside of city hall, and a painted uh cement football player. uh at Palmer Park.
The the one I'm concerned about in terms of preserving is the swimmer in front of city hall. Um casual notice number one, it needs to be very cleaned, but also I
think there's some minor cracks. So that whole thing will have to be looked at by professionals to seal it before moving it. And obviously the logical place would be our arcratic center.
The last piece I'd like to call your attention to actually there are two um but I only have pictured one is the Xavier Catarta um glass murals on the shops at Sunset Place. These were
installed by Nike uh when the Nike store uh opened there. They are huge. They're 24 feet high. Um, magnificent colored glass. I mean, he's well established,
we all know, Miami artist. When I'm looking at this piece, I'm looking at the side of Gibson Bethl Community Center. Uh facing a field where kids are playing uh and they're seeing and witnessing
beautiful art. U the other relief or excuse me, the other piece um is a baseball player and actually this morning I was I don't I don't have that. um this morning uh
with the manager, he was thinking that maybe Palmer Park would be a place to to put to put that piece, but certainly we need to be looking at u preserving these and you know we have funds in our
uh art and public places fund whatever it is. So that that's something I would just like to call your attention to um going forward. Thank you. Thank you, John. Okay, we've got uh Jessica Fineold next
on the agenda on the list, excuse me. Good evening. >> Good evening, mayor, commissioners. My name is Jessica Fineold. I am an attorney and a resident at 7931 Southwest 58th Avenue. And I'm here tonight regarding consent agenda item
seven, the safe streets and roads for all program. Specifically to urge this commission to prioritize the installation of a four-way stop, a marked pedestrian crosswalk, and a rectangular rapid flashing beacon at the intersection of Southwest 58th Avenue
and Southwest 80th Street. The city of Pleasant Living is more than a motto. It's something we all cherish and it's a promise to the families, children, and seniors who call this community home. I'm here tonight asking this commission
to help keep that promise by making the intersection of Southwest 58th and Southwest 80th Street safe. Southwest 50th Avenue serves as a primary walking route for residents accessoring Veterans Park, what our neighborhood affectionately calls the baby park, as
well as Dante Facel Park, and in general the neighborhood. On any given day, 10 to 15 children are at the baby park, toddlers in strollers and wagons, kids on bicycles, siblings, parents, grandparents, and caregivers.
To reach it, everyone must cross Southwest 80th Street at this intersection. And right now, there's no traffic control requiring drivers to stop. No stop sign on Southwest 80th Street, no march crosswalk, no flashing beacon. Drivers simply do not stop and
are speeding down our streets, even when families with young children are trying to cross. I've lived in my home since September 2025, less than eight months, and I have personally witnessed eight accidents at this intersection. Three of those occurred within nine weeks at the start of 2026 alone.
January 4th, January 16th, February 19th, and an additional fourth on March 10th. These are not near misses. And since January 2021, there have been approximately 23 documented crash incidents at this intersection, not counting the additional traffic detail
calls, directed patrols, and citizen complaints also logged, which suggests ongoing community concern well beyond the crashes. themselves. What makes this intersection particularly alarming alarming is not just the frequency of the crashes. It is
the combination of factors that make a tragedy involving a pedestrian in particular a child almost inevitable. At the same time, drivers face no stop requirement and rout routinely fail to yield. There's a critical visibility problem on the northwest corner, exactly
where the sidewalk ends and where where the pedestrians, often parents and caregivers pushing strollers or children on bicycles, must step into the road to cross. Overgrown landscaping on that corner severely obstructs sight lines in
both directions. Drivers cannot see pedestrians until they're ready in the road, and families cannot see oncoming traffic until it is too late. These two conditions together, no traffic control and no visibility are a recipe for a
catastrophic incident. It is not a question of if, but when someone is seriously hurt at this intersection. I've collected approximately 140 signed and certified petitions from neighbors and stakeholders in this community submitted to the city clerk in April,
all in support of installing a traffic and pedestrian safety measure at this intersection. The safety action plan before you tonight establishes the framework for exactly this kind of action. Yet, the intersection of Southwest 58th Avenue and Southwest 80th Street was not included among the
priority project recommendations. I respectfully ask that this commission take three actions tonight. first direct the Department of Public Works to continue to assess the critical issues related to this intersection as part of its ongoing safety study of the area,
specifically for the installation of a four-way stop, a marked pedestrian crosswalk, and a rectangular rapid flashing beacon. Second, direct staff to identify funding options, including through the federal safe streets and roads for all program. And third, as
Southwest 80th Street is a Miami Date County maintained roadway, firmly engage Miami Date County as a partner in these safety improvements and advocate on behalf of our community to bring all parties to the table. The data is clear, the community has spoken, and the need
is urgent. Please do not wait for a child to be seriously hurt. Thank you. >> Thank you. Yes, you may. Uh, >> ma'am, >> I I have a question for you because I I'm drawing a blank. Totally. My bad. There's a four-way stop on 80. It's like
59th. So, it's one block over. It's like a block down on 80th Street. Thank you. >> Yeah. Am I >> Yeah, I just could I I couldn't remember where it was. Okay. Yeah, it's just down. But the sidewalk on Southwest 58th Avenue is on the norththeast
side and then the park is on the other side of 80th. It's directly across the street. >> Yeah, I have that those locations I have clear. I just didn't know where the stop sign was. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> No. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner. There's also two parks on one side, right? There's Veterans Park
on the north on the south side and there's Vansmith Park on the south on the north >> north side. Thank you. I just wanted to write Mr. >> Manager, just on that item, can we we have a capital improvements plan workshop on the 9th. Can we just make sure we add that to the list? And yes, Chief, if you can get us the traffic crash data for the intersection. I know
my daughter was involved in an accident at that corner uh last year. Yeah. No, that's so what happens is people get very comfortable with they get accustomed to the four-way movement and stop a block down and they assume it's a four-way stop and often will enter the intersection and a collision results. So
that was the circumstance in in the in the accident she was a passenger in. So thank you for bringing that issue forward. Appreciate it. Uh anyone else would like to address this commission in public remarks? >> Sir, you're recognized. Good to see you again.
>> I don't remember what it was that Mr. Smith said about something at Palmer Park, but it comes to my mind. I was chair of the recreation board for 20 years and of course at South Miami Middle School for 30 years. And I just
caution you to be aware of the fact that you have a contract with the city of I mean with the Dayton County School Board and the school system nor the city can put anything out on the field without
making the other aware of it and see if there's any minor disagreements. But uh we have had the city and the school system have had a tremendous relationship for a long time and I don't want to see
that stop because it's let's put it this way. It's been very peaceful. >> Thank you sir. Is there anyone else in the chamber who'd like to address this commission in public remarks? Anyone else on the list? John,
>> are you here for an item on any of the land use items because we will recognize public comment at that time as well. >> What is what come forward quickly, sir? >> Oh, you are okay. >> He's here. >> There's a discussion item on that you're here for. We'll recognize you at that
time to speak. >> I I am Reynold Martin. I'm at 6201 Southwest 61 Street. And I want to thank the uh this board for appointing me to the health facilities board where we assisted the uh Baptist hospital system to maintain some facilities that will
make health care accessible to this community from from now until the very distant future. But in addition to to their attempting to do that, they provide the city with some resources that they can use to help other health organizations provide services.
>> Martin, would you like to speak now or when the item's called? Uh, I'm speaking now. Okay. I think I think those folks that know more about the organization I'm speaking of will tell you more about what they can do and what they do in this community and other community to to
lesser serve individuals, elderly and and young people. But I think that it's it's a wonderful opportunity for for this commission to to assist health maintenance organization in another community that brings services to this community. So I I would uh you know ask
you to consider favorably the request to provide some support for the Delma Gibson Health Initiative. Thank you. >> Thank you for your comment, sir. Good to see you again. Um anyone else? I know we have uh Mayor Robina online. Seeing no one in the chamber, Mayor Robin, you're
recognized if you'd like to unmute yourself, sir. Good evening. >> Good evening. Uh, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, uh, commissioners, Mr. Manager, city clerk, it's really an honor and I'm here basically, let me see if I can you can
see me. It's nice to see a face. There you go. I'm actually here to congratulate my good friend and I want to thank you all on the dis for considering Larry Corbin. I call him our Mark Maguire of South Miami to consider.
We're we're losing one of our best, ladies and gentlemen. and it's a real honor that you guys took the time to name this building after him. So, I'm here in support and just to say thank you for recognizing people that really should be recognized. Also want to put in a little plug for
his wife, Lisa. When you all build that new building, at least name a room for Lisa because she's been there step with step with him. So, hopefully there'll be a a Lisa Corbin room also. So, uh that's that's one of the things I wanted to speak about. Second of all, I just saw
that John Edward Smith brought up some issues on the artwork and u that artwork is very precious. Uh all of it, all of the ones that were recognized should we know we should find another place to put it. And I now have a a per personal
attack attachment to that football player, Mr. Ward does too, over at the South Me Middle School because now probably the most known national figure that just went pro is a grey ghost. He is >> and that reminds me that that concrete statue reminds me of none other than
Fernando Mendoza. He is a Greyos and that's uh great. And Mr. Mayor, last thing I want to thank Commissioner Steve Cay and uh Commissioner Rodriguez and you, Mr. Mayor, as we are getting ready to engage in what I call somewhat of a
battle to try to get that Lam Trail back up and running. Uh Commissioner Bonich, I know you're ready to battle this too. We spoke about it. Uh, no sunshine laws were broken. We talked separately. >> But that said, um, I look forward to working with you all because there
really is now a push. We've gathered a group of people to really make this thing happen. And, you know, it's all about the squeaky wheel getting the oil. But again, I want to take I want to thank Commissioner Cay for briefing me un explaining to me where you're at. But
more importantly, publicly also want to thank Commissioner Dade County Commissioner Orbus that's also working on it. And I had the pleasure of being appointed to the Miami Loop by a former employee of South Miami, now Commissioner Ralph Rosado. So I'm
looking forward to getting our 26 years in the making Lulham Trail done and hopefully attached to uh all of the other loop projects. So that's it for this evening. Thank you guys. And again, thank you so much for remembering this wonderful assistant chief Larry Corbin
and his wife Lisa. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Great to have you on. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else online, Madam Clerk? >> Anyone else on Zoom? Please raise your virtual hand if you would like to speak during public remarks. >> And final call in the chamber if there's anyone else here like to address us in
public remarks. Okay, seeing none, we will close public remarks. And um madam clerk, if you could read F1 and item six, please for the record. >> Um F1 recognition of Assistant Chief Larry Corbin. And item six, a resolution
of the city commission of the city of Southern Florida approving the naming of the South Police Department station in honor of Assistant Chief Larry Corbin. >> Thank you, Chief Hatfield. You are recognized, sir. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, city manager, members of
our South Miami community, and and these distinguished guests. Tonight, I stand before you in support of item number six that carries an extraordinary meaning for the South Miami Police Department. We're not simply discussing the naming of a police headquarters. We're recognizing a legacy and honoring a man
whose impact on this department reaches far beyond title, rank, or years of service. Every building begins with a foundation, and for decades, Larry Corbin has been one for this department. Assistant Chief Larry Corbin began his career with the South Miami Police
Department in 1987, and for nearly four decades, he has dedicated his life to serving the city and the people in it. He has served under eight police chiefs, earned more than 200 commenations and awards, and built a career most people could only hope to achieve. But Larry le
Larry's legacy was never built on just awards. It was built on the people and the relationships. He mentored officers. He guided supervisors. He shaped careers. He changed lives within these walls. For many, Larry became more than
a supervisor. He became the person people sought for for advice, for encouragement, and sometimes simply because they needed someone they could trust. He led with humility. He led with compassion. And he led with his heart.
Next month, Larry will receive one of the highest honors in our profession through his induction into the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Hall of Fame. There's no one more deserving. Larry represents the very best of the profession.
This item on the agenda will be prominently displayed in the future South Miami Police Headquarters if approved. And may be and maybe that's what it makes this moment so special. Because while walls and buildings may change, people's legacy carry forward.
The officers Larry's mentored, the leaders he's helped shape and the lives impacted inside these walls will walk into a future headquarters and carry with them the values, lessons, and examples he gave them. Mayor, commissioners, thank you for your
consideration and support of this item. >> Thank you, Chief. Uh colleagues, um we've got an action item. Would anyone like to make any comments before we entertain a motion on item six? Please, you're recognized, sir.
>> I just want to make this brief. I've gotten to know Larry and Lisa over the last year and a half. Um, we've shared some barbecue together. I I I didn't have Bicardi Leone. I couldn't I couldn't do that. But, you know, good conversation, spent some time, and I
think for me, it is an honor to be where I am right now to give you the honor you're about to receive. So, thank you for everything you've done and it's sad to see you go. Thank you, Commissioner. Yes, ma'am. You're recognized.
You know, you guys are really special. Larry and Lisa are special people to me because I I just I know them here, there, everywhere. I think that it's not often you run into people like you guys and I appreciate you and I'm
thankful that I've gotten to know you and that you'll be here even when you're not here because your name will be here. Hopefully Lisa, you know, will be able to party party because you'll be retired. She can pretend kind of like she's retired. But but in in all
seriousness, I think that you are what most South Miami police officers look up to or at least should. I think you're a wonderful person who's, you know, blah blah blah that Chief Hatfield said shows the world or people who don't know you
how special you are. They don't need to show us. We already know. Congratulations on your retirement. I hope you enjoy it. to put your name on a building means a lot and it was a decision that we all took and we we understood what it meant.
And in your career, what you've done for the city, for the people, for the community, for all the mayors, all the commissioners, the staff, the presence that you have in the city is by far something that's felt, not only seen, but loved. And it's an honor for us to
dec that and and for future and forever, whatever the building is and how soon we can get that thing built. So, it'll be such an honor to have your name on there representing what we appreciate and all the guys that are and guys and girls that are coming
after you to look up and see that and hopefully look you up and see what you did for our city. It's a great honor and congratulations. >> Oh, yeah. No problem. Uh Mr. Vice Mayor, you're recognized. You'd like to add some comments. >> Thank you very much. I just wanted to
say that the city obviously uh residents are constantly uh praising our police and you've been a rock and a foundation there for such a very very long time. And I'm I'm so honored as well as uh Commissioner Rodriguez said uh to be
able to give you this honor. So congratulations to you on your retirement. Uh congratulations to you as well, Lisa. And thank you very much, >> Mr. Mayor. Do you want to go? >> Certainly. Thank you, Mayor. I certainly from a point of personal privilege, I I
think it would have been more fitting to name a barbecue girl after him uh instead of the building, but we settled we settled on on what's before you. Um, no. I I I personally uh want to thank, you know, even though I've only been here three years since January, um, hit
hit my mark then, you know, coming in and knew right away certainly of of Larry and his reputation, but he stepped up to to to to take on a role that was really important. um which was become the assistant chief at a time when we had a chief coming from the outside and
and that partnership uh to be able to support the new chief uh as it relates to history, the department, the community was critically important and I appreciate um his willingness to step up and take up, you know, that leadership role. You could have just, you know, kind of write it out as a captain and but you didn't. You understood that that
was needed and the organization needed and you put the ordination before you. So, I appreciate that. has been an honor for me uh to to to to work with Larry. I know it's called the the Larry Corbin building, but Lisa somehow it's getting in that. >> It's got to be Lisa plaque. >> Yeah, the Larry Corbin. Not really, but
Lisa, something like that. Um but it's been an honor for me and coming from public safety, I I certainly respect the fact of somebody that leads in the manner that you've led and and the way that you've led uh with humble humbleness. and as an assistant chief, you see that pickup truck heading out here when there was emergency calls out
in the city and responding just like you did when you first started um as an officer uh on day one. So, the fact that you you still had that fire and dedication is is uh admirable. So, I just want to say thank you on behalf of the city, behalf of me, and for stepping up to to take on a greater leadership role at a time that I know Chief
Hatfield really needed. So, thank you. So, I'll close with yet again another thank you. Uh, Chief Corbin, Lisa, I mean, I I thought, uh, Chief Hatfield had it tough stepping into the shoes of uh, Chief Land, who I often told is the
best the best politician in all of South Miami. Everybody loved that guy. It was on the street everywhere. I mean, I I want to be as affable as he was. But, but it's your quiet leadership uh, and your energy, Lisa, that really have been the bedrock of the department for as long as you've been with us. Um, I could
imagine a department and without any disrespect to Chief Lando, without Chief Land in the future, it's hard for me to comprehend how we're going to evolve here. And so to whoever succeeds, both of you, uh, formerly as chief, but the combined energy you both bring as a
couple to this department, my my hats off to that person. They've got a they've got a tough assignment ahead of them because the the impact you've left is um certainly worthy of this honor. Uh, and beyond that, so again, thank you. Uh we wish you nothing for but the best in this next chapter and it goes
without saying your home is always here in South Miami. And with that uh can I get a motion on item six please? >> I'll move it. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> A motion to approve item six by Commissioner Bonich and a second by Commissioner Rodriguez. Uh Madame Clerk if you can call the role and then we'll
call up Chief Corbin and Mrs. Corbin to uh be recognized to speak. >> Okay. Commissioner Cay >> an emphatic. Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bonish. Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez. >> Yes. >> Item passes five. >> Thank you. I think there were a couple
other Cory's that voted yes in the background. >> Every Cory is in support. >> Chief Chief Corbin, come on up. Say a few words. Lisa, please come on up. Chief Corbin, tonight we would like to present you with this first commemorative brick representing the
future of the South Miami Police Larry Corbin headquarters. Because someday when officers walk through those doors, many may never have had the opportunity to work beside you, but they will still benefit from what you built. They will work alongside leaders you mentored, within the culture you shaped, and
within the department made better because of your influence. It is only fitting that this department builds towards its future. Your name and your legacy become part of the foundation as well. On behalf of the men and women of the South Miami Police Department, thank you for your leadership, your
friendship, and for everything you've given to this department, the city, and the people uh fortunate enough to have served alongside you. Mayor and commissioners, thank you for your support on this item. I think we may want to throw in a grill for the barbecue beyond the break. So,
no. No. >> Wow. This is amazing. >> I've been here a long time. I got a lot to say, but I'm not going to say a lot. >> You got you got you got three minutes. >> You know, when I started this journey back in 1987, it was following my
father's footsteps. Who's here today again? journey. He was a higher patrolman. I was doing this job because I wanted to be a policeman. I wanted to fight crime and I never did it for AC acclimates. I
never did it forwards. I certainly never did it for having name my name on a building. It's truly an honor. I've worked with a lot of great people. They're all here today. I'm an emotional guy as you can tell. >> You're doing a good job. >> Um,
I've worked with a lot of great leaders. It's only fitting that I finished with Chief Hatfield. I worked with a lot of great members of the disor just so many I've had relationship with. In fact, Mayor Cunningham, I don't know if you know this, but if
you're familiar with him, I'm sure you are, but I was in a building the other day that happened to be his old florest. It's right next to the hotel and he did the flowers for my wife and I's wedding.
It was getting ready to get torn down. It's kind of a touching moment going in there, but I just want to say that, you know, I gave my life to this place and I'm appreciative of what you've given me. Thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> Take a picture. Yeah, please. You got You guys have to squeeze. We're gonna >> No, thank you. Okay, madam clerk, if we can uh read into the record items 9, 10, and 11, and then we'll have the requisite um quasi
judicial warnings read by council. Item nine, a resolution of the mayor city commission of the city of South Florida approving or denying a variance application pursuant to section 20-5.9 of the land development code seeking to exceed the maximum lot coverage allow
for single floor plate requirements for the floor plates of the fifth and sixth floors for a proposed large-scale development within the transit supportive neighborhood area. TSNA subd district of the transit supportive development district TSDDD located at
6404 through 6504 Southwest 57th Avenue. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mr. Oh, sorry. She's got to go 910. Yeah, please. My apologies. >> Yes, sir. Item 10, a resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of South, Florida, approving or denying a large scale development special
exception application pursuant to section 20-8.7 of the city of South Miami land development code for the off-campus student apartments on the 2.73 acre development site located at 6404 through 6504 Southwest 57th Avenue.
Madam >> clerk, if you can hold for a second, I forgot that I wanted to recognize Mr. Lansberg who's also here for good week. David, could you come on up? Sorry. And I'll deliver the proclamation personally to your house uh tomorrow because I
forgot to tell the clerk to prepare it for me. But stay stay right there. I wanted to give you um if you don't know, we have the honor of calling uh one of our own the president of Goodwill Industries of South Florida here, Mr. Lansburg uh who is a resident South
Miami and a distinguished leader in our community not just in his current role but in his uh past role with the Miami Herald. Um this past week um we celebrated Goodwill Week and I wanted to just give him an opportunity to kind of highlight the tremendous work that
organization does. Um you know employing people, retraining people, repurposing stuff. just if you could just share a bit about what Goodwill Week represents and what the organization is doing currently in our community. >> Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor, and I
appreciate the opportunity to be recognized. Um, want to take a moment to thank uh the good people of South Miami uh for supporting Goodwill's mission. Uh whether you realize it or not, every time you donate something to Goodwill,
it goes to an incredibly good cause. Uh many people know that we've got donation centers and stores, but many don't know what we really do as a nonprofit is workforce development, particularly training people with disabilities and
barriers to work to be able to be functional in a in a work role. Uh we've been doing that for the last 67 years. Uh I'm happy to tell you that it is better than ever. Uh Goodwill South Florida, our Goodwill stands at 3,000
employees. That 3,000 is the 17th largest employer in the region and it's made up by more than a thousand people with a federal level disability and another 1,400 people with a very
significant barrier to work. Each year about a thousand actually graduate into community jobs and we've got the opportunity all over again this year to bring another thousand people in, get them trained and have them participate
in our workforce. And to me, it's a great blessing to lead this organization. Um, I also want to thank the city for always supporting an attended donation center within the city limits. In case you didn't know, it is
behind the construction at at the Petco. It is one of our best and most generous >> Future Sprouts. Future Sprouts. >> Future Sprouts. That's right. Future Sprouts. Uh but your generosity as a community is obvious. It's one of our best trailers. Um so thank you so much.
Uh, I would also uh just say that uh being honored is one thing, but being honored in the city of Pleasant Living, of which I've been a resident for the last 41 years, >> Oh, wow. >> is a particular delight. Thank you so much, uh, Mr. Mayor and Commissioner.
Before we let you go, um, one of my favorite experiences with Goodwill, I mean, it's, if you've not been out to, um, they've got an fantastic, incredible facility where they provide commercial service laundry. We worked on a a deal that unfortunately did not happen where
we were hoping to employ Goodwill on a convention center hotel project, >> but the scale of the operation, 3,000 employees, the array of services that they provide to the community, I I would invite my colleagues to go out there and and visit with Mr. Lansburg and his team because it really is eye opening. But my
my favorite all-time moment with Goodwill is um the Spirit of Goodwill band. So, if you can share a bit about that and I would love, Mr. manager as part of our celebration of America's 250th anniversary. If we could possibly figure out a way to invite the band to
come out and play at our event on July 4th, but if you could share a bit about the band, that would be great. >> Of course, we're most interested in Goodwill about all things work and preparing people for the workforce, but we also are very much about um giving time for people to do the things they
truly love. So, there are 25 members of our workforce who come out of their jobs for a couple hours on Wednesday and Thursday mornings. I would say it's an open invitation for anybody that wants to come visit to see uh people with
pretty profound uh neurodeiversity be able to play together in a way that you just couldn't imagine. It's spectacular. Uh they are the best representatives we got. When you listen to them and look at them
play, you realize what we're doing here is shining a lot light on capability rather than focusing on disability. And the people of Goodwill show that every day in their work and their spirit. >> Thank you, David. Again, thank you for your tremendous service to our
community, for your leadership of Goodwill. I mean I I for me that experience I I I got to serve a mayor before the city of Miami 2009 who was the president of his conference of mayors. We hosted that conference here that year. Uh they played in in front of a a house full of
mayors at the Adrian R Center and there was not a dry eye in the place. It was really a fantastic experience. It's a incredibly talented group of musicians. Um and you're absolutely right. It was just the best example of the vast capabilities that neurody divergent people possess. So, um, thank you for
being a force for good. We we're grateful to have you here in South Miami. Let's take a quick picture and I owe your proclamation. >> All right. >> Hold on, Mayor. Can I ask you a quick question? Yeah. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Go ahead, Dan. >> Sorry. >> Uh, Mr. Lansburg, thank you. Uh, two things. We we just opened up a unique abilities board here in the city of
South Miami. We're we're encouraging a lot of the community with unique abil disabilities and and one of the major things that we've seen and we just had a major summit in keeping with a lot of different cities throughout Miami date county is how do we start incorporating a lot of these people back into the
workforce. So I think you've already set a good example on how to start doing that. I would love to pick your brain and and if I can follow up on the mayor's suggestion that we can get a tour and understand that I would love to have a couple minutes with you guys. >> Absolutely. Fully understand. >> And I and I can tell you we very much focus on uh government as the customer.
Uh one of the one of the incredible businesses that we run is a commercial cleaning business that cleans every date county, state, and federal location in all of South Florida. Uh 140 buildings, 5 and a.5 million feet a night. It
supports a workforce of 250 people with a federal level disability. So, we're very interested. We are expanding into the building cleaning uh uh pressure washing business, many other things. It's a lot of ways the city can can engage, but happy happy to host you and brainstorm.
>> Appreciate it. >> Rodriguez, you're recognized. >> Hello, David. How you doing? >> Great. Thank you. So, how do you what is it that you the goodwill does to train um these these people for to put them back into the workforce? How how do you train them if I may ask?
>> Yeah. So, the the the very best way is real work, right? So, we run the stores. Uh we run a very large apparel manufacturing plant in Alipata, 21 and 21 Northwest. Uh that plant has a
thousand cut and sew people work. I I don't know if you all know this, Miami has a great history in the apparel industry, Halia and Alipata in particular, but your Goodwill has a thousand people sewing military uniforms
uh in our main plant and um that is a incredible way to get into a job, understand it. the thousand people that leave us each year is a voluntary opt out into maybe a higher paying job, a
job that they uh might want to do more or a job that's closer to home. So really what our work opportunity is for many is a vocational rehab. Uh learning uh what it is I do when I come to the
job. uh from my transportation to how I get along with a boss and my co-workers, how I look at work. And believe it or not, people that derailed from 15 interviews when they came to see us are able to leave Goodwill after a year or
two years and win that job through an interview. Um, and we give them a bunch of support while they're there. Everybody with a disability has a counselor while they're at Goodwill. and if they elect to stay for an entire career, they have that same counselor. It's almost like family over all of
those years. So, it's really the connection, it's the wraparound services and the support um and really being a nurturing place that lets them find their comfort and work. And of course, it's the biggest self-esteem generator of anything. And they often go, many go
from the roles of disability, federal disability, to leaving that for a full-time job with benefits at more than minimum wage. And so really, it's turning uh many people that needed that
support to people who are now taxpayers. So the reason I I asked that is um over the last few months um I've created a it's a partnership which is now South Miami and Miami Day College where Miami date college is offering free upskilling
basically certific certifying yeah >> um anybody who's interested most of these are for management positions so if anyone that you know rises to the top that wants to search you you know, seek a management position
or something else. I mean, there's a an array of of positions or certifications that that Miami date county is offering. It's fully paid for. They do one of the things that we did on the last uh we've had a few seminars. The last one we did was resume building. So, if they need
anything with resume building, um we're we're we're doing different things. They do they offer uh federal a uh financial aid, um even uh child care for if any of them have children. >> So, I would love to get with you and if you're interested, it's some we can do a
a partnership where you can bring some of those people that you have to one of our events and we'll show them how to sign up with Miami Day College and they can get certified at no cost. >> Excellent. And I can also just tell you briefly because we want the mayor to make it to his event, especially as a family event,
>> that now that we are 3,000 employees large, >> we know we're not going to solve the entire community's problem by being bigger and bigger and bigger. And so we are now refocused on sending large numbers of people direct from interview
to training into the community. So we too have opened up upskilling opportunities in high volume high turnover jobs where we can solve a problem of an employer. Um they have started in the fields of construction, general construction, HVAC and solar
installation. So now uh Goodwill is going to be a very sizable trainer and placer of people with legit certification that they earned while they were earning a stipen to train. So, uh, we're headed in that direction is a really smart thing to do.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> So, colleague, >> thank you all so much. >> No, thank you. And again, it's not all roses from Mr. Lansburg. He's got some challenges. It's been a particularly difficult year. I don't want to get into those issues, but I I do want to invite you to speak to him because a lot of stuff that's happening at the federal level in particular is impacting his
workforce, and I think it'd be just educational for you all to have a window into that conversation as well. So, again, thank you for all your good work. >> Thank you. And uh let's come on up. Invite your family and take a picture with us. All right. Thank you. Okay, madam clerk, thank you. Go back to reading item 10. Sorry about that.
>> Okay, I read item nine and item 10 and item 11. a resolution of the mayor city commission of the city of South Florida approving a development agreement with Subtex Acquisitions LLC for the off-campus student apartments on the 2.73 acre development site located at
6404 through 6504 Southwest 57th Avenue pursuant to section 20-8.7 of the city of South Mland development code. >> Thank you madam clerk. Mr. City Attorney, you're recognized for the warning and swearing in. >> Thank you mayor. Uh these three items uh
seek uh approval uh they're companion items that seek approval of for student housing development proposal by subtext acquisitions for the properties located at 6404 and 6504 Red Road. Item nine is is seeks approval of a variance to allow a footprint for levels five and six of
the project uh that exceed the maximum 20,000 square feet uh for those two levels. Item 10 is a large-scale development special exception under section 20-8.7 of the city's land development code. Item number 11 is a development agreement that is required for any of
these projects. So the first two items of variance and large scale development special exception those are quasi judicial. The third item development agreement is not. It is legislative or at best quasi legislative. The development agreement nevertheless requires a public hearing under the city's code. uh for efficiency, the same
public hearing can serve for all three items. Uh and in an abundance of caution, in order to afford the most due process possible to all parties and without waving the city's position that the resolution and development agreement is in fact legislative in nature, the city should frame tonight's hearing within the city's quasi judicial procedures with respect to presentations
by staff, the applicant, and public comment. Um uh madame clerk has read the title of the resolutions. Uh the public hearing uh should include presentation by the by staff and the applicant and public comment. The commission can ask any questions either before or after public comment is closed. Following
public comment, the commission may deliberate on each of the items. The take three separate votes. The quasi judicial procedures require this commission to consider the evidence presented to it and base uh their decision on the applicable law and primarily on the evidence presented whether by the applicant staff or
members of the public. In considering each item, the commission should apply the criteria which uh for variances is in section 20-5.9 for large scale special exceptions uh article 8 of the land development code as well as the professional analysis and the staff recommendation. The evidence considered
must be substantial competent evidence. That means testimony or other evidence based on personal observation or relevant expert testimony that a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support a conclusion. It is not a popular popularity contest. It cannot be based solely on non-expert opinions, no matter how fervent those opinions may
might be. Everyone who seeks to speak on an item should be given an opportunity to speak during the public comment portion of each hearing. If you intend to provide testimony as to this item, you will be sworn in before your testimony is taken. Please know if you speak, you may be subject to cross-examination. If you refuse either to be cross-examined or to be sworn, your testimony will be considered in
that context and given its due date. General public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the commission to direct questions on their behalf to either staff or the applicant. At this time, anyone who wishes to speak should be sworn in. I'd ask that you please stand and raise your right hand if you intend to speak this evening on any of these
three items. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Madam clerk, can you >> we if we can I believe there members of the public that are here to speak as well. Are there any other members of the public who also intend to speak on this item? If so, we do need you to stand and be sworn in as well.
>> And anyone on Zoom who's going to speak on this item, please raise your virtual hand so I could unmute you. >> No members of the public are going to speak on the item. Again, I just want to make sure everyone is sworn if they they need to speak. >> Okay, Miss Thomas, would you turn on
your camera, please, so we can be you can be sworn in. Good evening. >> Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Miss Thomas. >> Miss Thomas. >> Okay. We'll we'll come back to her.
>> All right. Uh, >> Madame Clerk, can you confirm compliance with the advertising and notice requirements for this evening's hearing? >> Yes. >> Thank you. Uh and then mayor, vice mayor, or commissioners, have you have any of you had any uh exarty communications over and above the ones
that you disclosed previously? >> I spoke I spoke with one of them today >> with uh the applicant >> with the applicant's lawyer >> with the applicant's council. Got it. Regarding the application. >> Yes. >> Understood. >> Thank you. I spoke with Mr. Rearen on Friday to ascertain what the status of
board discussions of the neighbors and with council for the applicant today just to confirm that there was some sort of understanding between the parties. Thank you, mayor. >> I spoke with developers council briefly today and I spoke with um Miss Rearen today about
project. >> Great. Thank you. >> I too spoke with the developers uh council. That's all. >> Great. Thank you. >> We're ready to proceed. Okay. >> You need Brian. Oh. Oh, that's right. >> Vice Mayor, are you recognized?
>> You want to unmute yourself? >> Um, I spoke with uh I spoke with the team virtually about two weeks ago and then uh right before uh the last meeting and I spoke with Michelle Rearen today as well. >> Thank you, Vice Mayor.
>> Okay, we're ready to proceed. Um Mr. Alvarez, uh, if you want to come up and present your understanding of any modifications to the project, we'd appreciate that. And then colleagues, you want to have discuss all these items together? >> Yes,
>> we do. Okay. So, then we'll go through any modifications to the development agreement if you can, Mr. Russio, thereafter. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Alvarez. Good evening. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Mark Alvarez for the city of South Miami Planning Department. Um the the we have
received a modified application or modified site plan on um dated May 12th. The last one that we were on was I believe dated April 29th. There are some small changes to the the building particularly to the west side that
create somewhat more of a change in movement in the walls. The effects on the um consistency of this with the with the tsd zoning code are very minor, but I'll I'll go through them anyway. Um we do have actually one bedroom uh that is
in the current plan that is undersized. Instead of being 150 ft, it's 142. Um we have um a change again a very these are all fairly minor changes, but I do want to make note of them. We have a
change in the parking count which now go it was at 395 has gone to 394 is still consistent with the uh code requirements. There's a small change in the bicycle parking interior to the building. Um that went from 195 to 193.
Again it is still consistent with the zoning requirements. Um, I think one of the areas that we we had a lot of discussion about last time was bonus area. I'm sorry, not bonus area, excuse me, the um open space area, which has been increased. Um, parts of
the changes to create more movement in the building have been an increase in open space particularly on the west side. Um, so it is consistent. The open space increase comes out to,51 square ft. It goes from being um 11.09%
9% of open space where 10 is required 10% is now 12%. The um the building heights remain the same and um there are some small again there are changes in the movement of the wall on the building movement by
movement I mean the movement in and out uh from the surface. um they are all consistent and it's actually more movement than it had before. Um again, particularly on the west side. And then finally, there was one other
here. Uh the building the occupation of of the land, the building coverage as soon as I find it has changed. It is it is um decreased. Um a second I lost the track of that. But anyway, the building coverage is decreased slightly again. So
that is due to the uh greater amount of open space and I'll tell you the numbers when I find it. And um finally the um the private open space has also decreased a little bit but it is well within the requirements. It's gone down
by 697 square ft um to 3 uh 33,641. And that would be it. As soon as I find the building coverage, I'll be happy to tell you. Um I managed to lose it. There it is. Uh the building coverage um we require 80% building coverage or a
maximum of 80% on the land. It was at 79.6 before it's gone down to 78%. Um again it's a reduction of 140 ft of the building coverage on the land. So everything has moved a little bit there. They're fairly minor moves. It's still
consistent with the code. >> Questions. Mr. Alvarez, colleagues? None. Mr. Rodriguez. We're still at 772 beds. >> Uh, no. No. >> Come down.
>> That has changed. The number of units has uh is the same. We're at 760 beds. 200, excuse me, 240 apartments and 760 beds. It was 772 before. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Madam Commissioner. Any questions? Uh, Mr. Mr. Vice Mayor, any questions? Straw, just really quickly before you go. Um, again, I just want to on the facade facing 57th Avenue. Again, the
building has been recessed in sections. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, but basically the they replicated the move on the western facade on the eastern facade as well. >> Eastern although the western has more movement. >> Correct. >> And more and obviously larger aperture, >> correct? Some spaces. Okay.
I think Commissioner Bonich wants to confirm that she's looking at what the final version is. Yes. >> Uh it should say May 12th on the bottom. >> Yeah. Okay. May 12th. Yes, it does. Okay. For the record, we're looking at a drawing dated May 12th to confirm that
that is the drawing being approved. Okay. Okay. Okay, seeing no further questions, uh would the applicant like to add anything for the record? >> Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. My name is Mario Garcia Sarah with offices at 600 Brickl Avenue.
Here this evening representing Subtex Acquisitions. I'm joined today by my client as well as the project team. This project has been subject to a lengthy presentation and discussion. Uh so we will limit our presentation today to what has changed since this project was
last presented. Even though this has been a long and demanding review process, I'm happy to say that it has led to a better project and importantly a project which has addressed the concerns of the neighbors directly across the street on the west side of Southwest 57th Court as evidenced by the
letter of no objection which was circulated to each of you signed by those neighbors. I will discuss what has changed number-wise with the project and Mr. Renardo Ford Brea will discuss what has changed with regards to design.
Up there you have the numbers of the project. Right now as already discussed the unit count is 240. Bedroom count has been reduced to 760. Compared to the maximums that are allowed by the code it is 79% of what is
allowed. Uh at the very bottom there, we also touched upon that the increase in public open space by about a thousand square feet. Uh and we're now at 20% over the minimum required for open space.
The next slide uh provides some of the concessions or commitments that we've made to the neighbors. They include the outdoor amenity deck to be closed at 10:00 uh every day. uh providing a part-time overnight security officer for
the first three years of operation and providing a neighborhood liaison and community hotline for consistent open communication. Explore permit parking enforcement and signage on the on street parking along Southwest 57th Court and also look at
perhaps providing more on street parking there in conjunction with the city and the county. uh exploring traffic coming in in particular speed bumps along Southwest 57th Court between 64th and 66th Street and also traffic coming along 64th and
66th Street between 57th Avenue and 58th Avenue and then also hosting a job fair for construction and operation opportunities, opportunities to work there during once the operations already commenced and also providing a construction liaison and point of
contact during construction. So, with that said, I'll ask uh Bernardo to now come up and show you some of the revised elevations and facades. >> Good evening, sir. >> Good evening, everybody. I'm Bernardo
for an architect. Um the screen there. Um, we're showing you this time ground level images, not aerials, so you really can see what how people feel from the street. This is a view um along the
residential neighborhood where we have precisely attempted to create the same kind of breakup almost like row houses along the the facade of the building. This is a threetory facade on the west side and it is um um and this is the
effect that we're trying to create by the terracotta tones and the and warm gray tones and white and really doing a a combination of tonality and recesses
that create shadow lines so that the the building along the back is really a collection of buildings. Now in addition to that I don't know if I I have the controls right um in addition to that um you can see that we create we have a
large courtyard the dog park that is in the center and we have created a series of recesses also along the building a series of bamboo gardens that have divided the building into essentially five different sort of volumes within
which there are sub volumes and uh along the avenue Um, along the main street, you see this is the six-story building. And we were asked to look into some artistic treatment where the entrance is and where the drop off and garage are
located. But the treatment is no longer a flat treatment is a three-dimensional treatment. It's like a folding screen. you know the old style folding screens that you can stand up on their own but instead it is doing the same thing with
a three-dimensional design or it creates the effect of what is called a tptic in in in the art world and uh it creates a statement right in the middle of the building. Um it is in addition to that that of course we have also an
additional recess another one of the bamboo gardens so that the buildings on each side are no longer just two but really three plus uh the entrance statement. Um these are some of the views of the landscaping that we'll
create along the street. Um and you can see here what we mean by breaking up the mass of the building. There's different tonalities as well as shadow lines. So some of the volumes are projecting some there's recess in addition to that. So
it's not a flat facade is a is a facade that has movement and the way light hits it we create a series of shadow lines. And I in that sense I return to show you here how shadow lines are important. Now you can see here um the bamboo garden on
the left hand side of the image. Um, you can also see that in some cases the balconies are projecting forward so they create their own shadows along the facade so that they're not flat facades. Um, you can see that the attempt is to create a village-like arrangement
composition to the building and I hope this clarifies some of the architectural effects that we have created with the perimeter of the building. >> Thank you colleagues. Any questions of Mr. Forussia? >> Thank you sir. Sorry to lose my voice. >> It's okay. >> Okay. >> Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you very much, Bernardo. Uh, one item which I would like to make special mention of is that the northbound lefthand turn lane into the project, which is a critical component of the project. uh we have agreed as a condition of approval whereby we will
obtain the conceptual approval of that left-hand turn lane prior to issuance of a master permit and we will complete and install that left-hand turn lane prior to issuance of a TCO. Uh this has been a challenging but rewarding process. We feel that we have
achieved a project which merits your approval. We would ask that you follow the recommendations of your staff and boards and to approve the requests that are before you. We're available, of course, for questions and and your rebuttal if necessary. >> Thank you, sir. Uh questions of the Yes, you're recognized.
>> We briefly discussed today um that the landscaping around the building is beautiful, but people walk their pets and so we need somewhere that has grass that is not the dog park so that people can, you know, take their pets to go to
the bathroom. Um, like I mentioned to you earlier, I travel with my dog and I was in Nashville in downtown Nashville and the area that I was at, I had to walk two blocks to find a pet of grass for my dog to go to the bathroom. That
is after staying in a hotel that accepts pets. And so I said, if your building accepts pets, even just service animals, which by law we have to do, there needs to be a place for those dogs to go to the bathroom at 11 o'clock at night. And second, please remember the art that is
on the facade of the building has to go through art in public places. Don't make it the afterthought so that we are catching up to you. Please do it in the appropriate order so that it does not become an issue. >> Understood Mr. Mayor if I might on the particular
point of you recognize. Go ahead. >> Subtext does allow dogs within their developments. I discussed with the team and we was further elaboration of the plans goes through building permit and so forth. We'll find places where we can trade shrubs for grass. So you have that space.
>> Colleagues for the questions. >> Mr. K recognize. >> One of the things that we spoke about in the last meeting was the allocation or keeping of the current trees. Is that still >> correct? Okay. >> That's still there in Southwest 57th Court. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I think the only other concern
I had was the left turn. I think that's a big deal. Um, in the future reference, colleagues, I think that as as this building goes up and then we have the one railroad, I mean, railroad comments, the cross streets of and what we're seeing with with the underlying
activation. I do foresee a lot of people from the community and from these students crossing that street on 57th a lot more. So I urge us to really look at the crosswalk sections along 57th corridor uh as we proceed with with this
new implementation. Commission on that point. I mean one of my big ambitions hopefully for the CRA will be to enhance lighting and um cross connectivity across 57th Avenue and just improve the pedest uh condition generally in the
Marshall Winston neighborhood. So um yes yes ma'am. Yeah, because if if I'm not mistaken, between Miller and all the way to Red Road Commons, the only place there is to cross the street is 64, >> right? >> And then 64, like you, you know, you hit
the other light and the other light, but and I think we've talked about this in the past, like it's like Frogger. These kids are >> Yeah. And it's and it's a concern the University of Miami has as well. Uh they'd like to see us address it, which is why they were supportive of the CRA request. But I think more importantly,
um, whether you're a student or you're a resident, getting across that segment is incredibly important. So, uh, it'll be a focus certainly of mine in all of ours, I think, as we go forward. Uh, further questions? >> No, >> no, thank you. >> Rodriguez, no. I I I just wanted to
understand, first of all, thank you for um the condition on the access for me. Um, part of my uh general acceptance of the design was the fact that the parking deck was not front and center in the presence of the adjoining neighborhood,
but that did necessitate the left turn access. So, I appreciate you guys agreeing to that condition and really reaffirming your commitment to keeping traffic off of the neighborhood streets uh to the west. Uh but in that vein, I I noticed here in both the development
agreement and in condition 24 of the revised resolution year, there is a proposal to explore creating a one-way uh traffic condition on 57th Court. And I just wanted to understand uh from the applicant whether that originated with you all or with the residents. I
personally get concerned about one-way conditions because it tends to accelerate the velocity on the segment. And so if you could either of you could elaborate on that. >> Yeah, if I can address that. Um that that actually came from from discussions with with staff and uh primarily because
of the the lack of space for on street parking within that roadway. At present uh the there is no space for on street parking. There are just travel lanes. So we were trying to explore okay what could we do? So one of the scenarios is uh carve out
space within the swailes to provide for that parking with bumpouts for the trees so that we don't lose the trees that that that they're preserving. um another scenario or potentially combined with that would be exploring that to see if that can work. Uh what we're trying to do is create uh and I don't know if it
will work. You know, it's it's that that needs to be studied. >> Again, I I think I I would I think we're kind of maybe trying to fix a condition that's not broken. We're assuming it's broken. Mhm. >> And I think the friction of having cars
on the street even on just on the west side, we want to just ban parking on the east side, I understand that if we can do that, I would say that we should not allow parking on the segment closest to the project that we don't want students parking on the street, but we don't want I wouldn't want to foreclose the
possibility of residents parking on the west side, >> right? >> But I do think if if that requires us to create a one-way condition, I wonder if it's actually a better outcome. So, um, ultimately that's a condition we have to approve. So, I just wanted to get that
on the record so that if it's not been discussed with the neighbors, you know, this is not something that's going to happen immediately, but we should have continued conversation about it and make sure that it's something that the neighbors really want uh developed there. I think ultimately has to come to us for final approval. So, while they've
got to explore it and use best efforts to do explore that option, it's not a done deal until we appine on it. But, I did want to flag it for future conversation. uh with the neighbors. Um I did see in the presentation, Mr. Garcia Sarah, that you did make a representation about local hiring or best efforts for local
hiring. >> Is that memorialized in either the resolution as a condition or the development agreement? >> It is not, but we're fine having that incorporated. >> Say, let's incorporate a condition for that as well. And then um lastly, just
quickly perusing the document. I did not see uh is there is there a public access condition for the dog park at the rear of the building? I don't I believe that was the intent the intended >> is it memorialized anywhere and again the development agreement andor the resolution?
>> It is in both. Uh we have to provide an easement in favor of the city. Okay. >> If you could just highlight the the condition before we close the conversation, but I just want to make sure I've had a chance to review it. Those are my questions uh and comments. Colleagues, if uh Mr. Vice Mayor, did you have anything you wanted to add? We
have questions, sir. >> Uh no, I I did notice that the uh I mean I think the applicant did mention it with the increased um you know uh square footage on the green space, but there are two small
carveout areas on the west side. Um and the and the dog park did get uh slightly extended. I believe they removed uh some um building there. Uh is that correct as well? >> Correct.
>> Okay. So, yeah. Uh just highlighting that I I I had to double check the site plan again because it wasn't mentioned specifically, so I wanted to make sure it was still there. But thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. Um,
lastly, Mr. Garcia, we I've had a recent experience in the last 24 hours around the special exception and compliance with conditions. So, I just want to make sure your client understands the language in section four of the resolution. So, before we close, I just want an affirmative statement that they understand that we do retain
jurisdiction if they're not complying with the conditions to to have a public hearing and revoke the authorization. So on the record, I don't want to I I I believe everyone's been a person of their word and followed up, but want to make sure that my colleagues also understand we do have a mechanism to
holding people to account if they don't in fact live up to the letter of what they committed to. But >> that is understood. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. With that, let's open up the floor to the public. If there's anyone who' like to address the commission on items 9, 10, and 11, you're welcome to come forward, sir,
please. Sir, have you been sworn in? Would you like to be sworn in or not? >> Okay, please come forward. We'll swear you in. Anyone else in the public who'd like to address uh the commission in public uh as part of this public hearing? Okay, if you could just please stand.
Let's swear everyone in at one shot. Mr. MC, if you want to come forward and get in line, that's two. Come on up. Sorry to make you wait. I just want to make sure we do it all in one shot. >> Anyone on Zoom, please raise your virtual hand. >> See Dr. George Price. Dr. Joyce Price, do you want to speak on this item as
well? >> Just in case. Just want to make sure we get everyone. Okay. >> Please, please raise your right hand. >> Do you swear or firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. You're recognized, sir. >> I don't have any facts or anything. I have opinion. I don't agree with this
building being built. I grew up in South my entire life and I go to work like at 5:00 in the morning going down where they want to build at. and college kids, you know, crossing the streets. I don't want to be like going to work barely waking up just to be uh watching for out
college kids have a party. And another thing I saw, they only want to have an overnight security guard for three years to like guard the pool after 10 p.m. What happens after three years? You think the college kids are going to respect a rule that says 10 p.m. I was a kid. I didn't respect no pool rules at 10 p.m. I went to pools after 10 p.m.
And what's going to stop them from not doing that? Are the neighbors going to listen to a party and call the cops after three years when there's no more security guards because they only cared for the first three years of uh watching out for the neighborhood? And that's only I wanted to say. >> Thank you for your comment, sir.
>> I didn't get his name. >> Oh, sir, if you can come back and just give us your name and address for the record, please. I apologize. >> No problem. >> My name is Bobby L. Dingle. I live at 5860 Southwest 66 Street. Mr. >> Dingle, thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Mr. >> MC, good evening. >> Good evening, everybody.
change my accounts. Excuse my voice. I'm getting over something. Um 62 72 South 59 Place. Um the residents have spoken on their
concerns about this project. Um uh they seem to be addressing uh things now, but Mayor, you brought up something that's near and dear to my heart, and that's the employment factor. Um, we're working together. I've been
dealing with uh Commissioner Cay Steve. I got it right. Um, years. >> Three and a half years. >> Three and a half years. >> Strong. >> Yes. >> Hey, slow but short. >> Hey, no clapping. That's the morning. >> Really? All right. All right, Steve. Um,
so, uh, I'd like to get that in right. Just like you said, uh we we've had uh projects before that came and promised this and it wasn't solidified. Uh re related group did a project and we
got some action. >> I'm sorry to interrupt you, but just to ask if we can there's they've made a a representation as to pre-construction hire or construction hiring and operations hiring. So in your experience, what's a reasonable time prior to the start of both activities,
construction, commencement and operations for them to hold uh the job fairs that they pro that they proposed? >> I would say um let's give them uh four to six months before the project. >> Okay. >> Let's let's get people fine-tuned. >> Okay.
>> And get them together, update the contact information that we do have, get them going. uh general labors and people with experience. >> Okay. >> So we can get them going. >> We'll see what we can we'll make that request of them. Okay. >> Okay. And keep me posted in that. And u Steve, I'll be working with you without
the list. We'll be fine tuning it. But thank you guys. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Thank you, sir. Good evening. >> Good evening. Uh Christopher Hudson. I live at 6411 Southwest 59th Avenue, which is four streets over from the project. Uh you mentioned traffic. Uh
can you consider uh 57th and I think that's 64th or 62nd one of those crosswalk I noticed that uh I use that a lot and when students are running or jogging and even when they
are crossing there that uh sometimes they have to use uh they have to go across and then come across again. Can you consider one of those uh what they have here in Sunset with the X across there where they can just all cross at one time as opposed to going twice? Can you consider that in your traffic study?
>> Sure. I think we we are my intention through the CRA that we hopefully will have approved here in the next month is to examine those segments. And so I I I'm wholeheartedly in favor of creating that condition. So, and we have another there's, you know, a student housing
project that we are not going to have any say over because it's happening in the unincorporated county just on the site next door. And so, again, to I think what your point is, we need to make sure we're coordinating all these elements so that uh that crossaxis works.
>> Now, now the the one before uh F57 once they put in that lefthand turning lane, I'm just curious of how that's going to work if that road itself isn't widened. So they might have to consider one uh even south of there >> right there. Right there where they
where they're turning into those uh common roads and that one street there where I see uh uh also uh several potential accidents happen right there during the course of the day. So we may want to consider one there. It's not a light there per se. It's a light there
in that complex. So, we might want to consider either moving that light back or extending it further as when you do your traffic study. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, sir. >> Uh, anyone else who'd like to address this commission? Mr. McCat, second by the apple. >> Come on up.
>> There's one important factor and that's includes the wages. All right. Um, we've had issues with uh very minimum minimum wages uh for highprofile jobs like this. We want we want to try to match with
comfortable wages around. So, I hope that would be included in this uh draft agreement. >> It's a good point. I would normally be supportive of it. I don't know that we have the legal authority to require that any longer given preeemptions by the state that were adopted this past year. So, I don't know, Mr. attorney. We're
limited in what we can >> what we can commit to. >> But we can still ask, >> right? >> We can ask. >> We cannot require. >> We can't require, but we can ask. >> Nor nor do we have I don't believe we even have the ability to enforce it if they even agree to it. So I think that's one of the again I don't want to I I
>> unfortunately Tallahassee every year has been encroaching on our authority. And so I don't want to send a message out to the community that we're going to ask it and then we can't enforce it because at the end of the day it's not that meaningful. But we hope I think hopefully they receive the message that we want to make sure they're paying people fairly and and at at market
rates. >> Absolutely. And I I think I think we should ask as a community anyway. You know, we can't afford it, but we're going to ask. >> Okay. >> Thank you, sir. Miss Thomas, I see your hand raised. If you could unmute yourself and we'll need you to be sworn very briefly. Attorney,
you want to administer the oath one more time? >> Sure. Miss Thomas, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you, Miss Thomas. The floor is yours. Good evening. >> Good evening, everyone. Uh, I don't mean
to beat the dead horse, but um, as construction begins, >> ma'am, before you start, just your name and address for the record quickly. >> I'm sorry. Oh, 6531 Southwest 57th Place. >> Thank you. Floor is yours. Thank you. >> Just one block over. I'm imploring the
city to make sure that the vendor when they start construction that they find a temporary parking pad for their construction workers so they will not be parked in front of our doors from 7 until 7. Now, I don't know if you guys
are interested in the Gibson Bethl parking lot or the parking lot over by the dog park at Red Road Comas, but anywhere in front of our doors from 7 until 7 because again that takes place of people coming in the the trash
people, the landscape people there. And that's what they did before when they were doing red road commas until they, you know, built a temporary parking pad, you know, with gravel and everything. So, I do not want because I'll be calling every day all day to have the
construction workers parked from 7 until 7. So, I'm just asking you guys to consider some place for them to park. >> Thank you, Miss Thomas. We'll ask uh council for the developer to address that for us when they get up in final remarks. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh further comments, madam
clerk, anyone else online? >> Anyone else on Zoom? Please raise your virtual hand if you'd like to speak on this item. >> Okay, we'll close the public hearing on these items then. Um Mr. Christie Sarah, would you like to address uh any of the comments made? >> Sure. It's it's not so much really
rebutting, but just sort of addressing and saying what we can do. Um traffic was a was a theme there. We're making a pretty robust commitment to look at traffic calming and and if it gets approved by the county, implement it and pay for it and install it within the area. Uh employment from the very
beginning from the first meeting we ever had with the neighbors that issue and that commitment from us always came up and the time frame that was discussed of about six months before uh you know uh commencement of construction to to sort of have that job fair and try to see who
we can recruit uh we can definitely do. Okay. and subtext is committed of course to paying a fair wage. Uh and lastly the construction >> sorry interrupt just to clarify so six months before construction start and operations commence. So it was both okay thank you just to clarify.
>> And lastly on construction parking we need to prepare a construction staging plan and part of that has to be with where our construction workers are going to be parking and it won't be in front of people's houses. We will make the commitment and arrangements to park in other appropriate parking lots. I mean, if you are building a pretty substantial
parking structure, I'm not sure if that's going to be an element that's advanced first, but certainly seems like a opportunity to park um >> on site >> on site >> potentially. >> Okay. >> Question. >> Yes, sir. You're recognized. >> Have you guys decided on the contractor as of yet?
>> Okay. So, John Morardi is who the subtex has worked with historically, and that in all likelihood is probably who the general contractor is going to be. I would like to work with the developers and the JMA with uh with the help with finding contractors, setting up the the career affairs and everything that we
can do to help out. It's been successful in the past and I would just like to keep on doing that. So, I appreciate that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um colleagues, um final comments, uh anything I've missed, Mr. City Attorney, Madam Clerk, are we in the
proper posture for a motion? >> You're ready to go. >> Okay. Is there a motion on item nine, please? >> I'll move. >> Um, just one thing. >> Oh, that's item 10. We have a replacement resolution that I'll put at your >> Great. Thank you. >> We read that in now or
>> No. So, item Okay, let's Item nine is the variance. So, um, >> is there a motion to adopt >> uh the variance? >> I'll move it. >> Is there a second? >> I I don't think so. >> Okay, I'll second. Okay. A motion by Commissioner Cay, a second by
Commissioner Bonich. Thank you. >> Uh, Madame Clerk, if you can call the role on item nine, please. >> Um, Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> no. >> Commissioner Bonish, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> yes.
>> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 41. >> Thank you. Um, item 10, is there a motion? And the motion to be it would be if a motion to approve if it's to approve with the modifications discussed to the conditions. Correct. >> With the modifications discussed the conditions with the
>> with the amended resolution. Exactly. Correct. Okay. >> M modifications to the amended resolution. So we have a motion to approve >> with amendments. >> Okay. With with the modifications. Yes. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second it. I keep looking at you, Brian, because I don't know if you're going to do it or not because you you go
yes, but then you don't. We got a motion by Commissioner Cay, a second by Commissioner Bonich. Um, Madam Clerk, if you can again call the role on item 10. >> Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> no. >> Commissioner Bonish, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey,
>> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 41 with modifications. >> Thank you. Uh, okay. Item 11. Is it all in agreement? >> Uh, is there a motion to adopt uh with the modifications discussed? I'll move the motion.
>> We have a motion and a second by commissioner. Motion by Comm Shakaya, second by Vice Mayor Corey. Um there was one item that was mentioned by uh Mr. Dingle, I believe, regarding uh security and the hours we do. Are the hours of operation for the pool deck? Is
there a condition addressing that in the uh development agreement or the or the resolution? I'm sorry to bring it up at the last minute here. >> There is 10 o'clock. >> 10 o'clock. Okay. So, we have a motion and a second as modified. Uh, Madam
Clerk, if you can call the role on item 11, please. >> Yes. Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bonish, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> no. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 41. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much.
>> Okay. Well, moving on. Uh, again, colleagues, we can take up item 13. Madam clerk, if you could read that into the record. Item 13, an ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida amending section 20-8.2 definitions and section 20-8.5 permitted
and special non-residential uses of article 8 transit supported development district of the land development code to revise regulations relating to adult entertainment. >> Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Do you want to walk us through any modifications between first and second reading? >> Certainly. Certainly. Okay. And one
note, one procedural note, uh, mayor and commission, uh, the this was listed as a four-fifths vote, uh, required, but upon further review of the of the ordinance, um, a four-fifth vote would only be required if there was a a new use that
was put in that had a higher traffic uh, intensity. Uh, that is not the case here. It's that use is already in the code. So, it is this would would only require a three-fifths vote. And then in terms of the changes, there is one change that was not
reflected uh in your in the agenda uh specifically as to alcoholic beverages uh being served consistent with that should read section 4-6B of the code uh rather than a blanket reference to chapter 4. Um the
other change the other changes are reflected in what you have and that's uh condition number nine. uh site plan approval uh would be by the city commission and it would be limited to confirming compliance with applicable codes including the requirements of this section, configuration of parking and
site access, paint, color, signage and lighting. Um the the other change was to the hours of operation which are um limited to 3:30 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. the following day, seven days per week as opposed to having additional hours on
Friday and Saturday. Okay, colleagues, with respect to the changes, any questions? >> Oh, my apologies. Thank you. Mr. Wrangle pointed out to me uh the the spacing has been increased to 1,000 ft uh between similar uses. >> Between similar uses
>> between similar uses. That's correct. >> Okay. >> Questions? You recognize, man? >> Thank you. Um, are we going to be moving with the same idea of the signage being
what it currently is? Like I know that we have like initials and stuff like that. >> So, so the signage I mean the signage is subject to the standards that I think are proposed in the ordinance and as I understand it it's it's there are
directional limitations. Correct. >> That's correct. >> The way they have to be oriented. >> That's right. content of it is I think something that we have the legal authority to dictate >> if even if it was something that was agreed upon originally at the >> it would have to be something that's profered by the applicant if if an
applicant when comes forward yes >> I don't think it's it's something we may cons again we may consider or ask for >> if an application manifests itself uh but right now I think it's not something that we can regulate affirmatively in the >> okay
>> in the ordinance if I'm speaking up >> no no it's correct it's correct It can only be visible from progress road or commerce lane. >> Okay. >> Further questions on the modifications. I I just wanted to make sure we had had initially uh the DRB approving
the requests subject to the standards that are that we that we have discretion over or and commission K that I I profered the the suggestion that we retain the jurisdiction. Just want to make sure that's something the board wants to pursue or do we want to leave it in the hands of the DRB.
>> I would rather we do it. >> Okay, fair enough. So, just wanted to make sure >> I just want to be clear that so that we're >> it's limited to the standard >> if an application comes up. It is limited to those standards. >> Question mayor. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Attorney, the um the DRB also has
jurisdiction or they have quasi judicial authority on the signage as well, right? So that will go through our community board for review and approval. Is that correct? I remember that we've seen that various places where we have to do signage approval >> for site plan. They have they have
approvals for they have they have jurisdiction over site plan approval not necessarily signage but for site plan approval just just regular site plan the structure of the building having nothing to do with the with whatever the use is. >> So signage is not part of the DRB process. it if to the extent that it's included within the application it would
be but if it's not included in the application they can come back for a signed permit later >> and it's still I mean if it sorry mayor if they would go if they would do it later does it still have to go through DRB or just >> it would not have to go through DRB >> so sorry it's just that we've been through this process where like you know
the hand doctor that's on us one they came back through the DRB it was not approved through the RB because of the signage being too too big we've also had through the DRB different scenarios their art or signage has been too big and it's been also deemed not acceptable
by the DRB. Now, obviously, they can bypass that going through the commission or or other ways, but I've seen it happen. >> So, so I don't know the specific circumstances for those two that you that you mentioned. I I would tell you as a blanket, signs don't have to go there. Now, if they're seeking some kind of variance or something like that, it would have to go there.
>> Sure. Thank you. >> Further questions, you good? Mr. Vice Mayor, all good. Okay. Uh, is there a motion? Uh, >> public hearing. >> Public hearing. My apologies. So, if there's anyone in the public who would like to address this commission on item
uh 13 on tonight's agenda, please come forward at this time. >> Anyone on Zoom, please raise your virtual hand. >> Seeing no one in the chamber and no one online, we will close the public hearing. Colleagues, is there a motion
with respect to item 13? >> I'll move the motion. >> Okay. A motion by Commissioner Rodriguez. Is there a second? Apparently I am. I will make a second then. So a motion by Commissioner Rodriguez, a second by myself. Madam clerk, if you
can call the role, please. >> Yes. Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bonish, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cay, >> no. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 41. >> Thank you. Um, colleagues, if we can
take M3 and then I will be excusing myself. M3 Commissioner Rodriguez the gift gives a health initiative contribution from health facility fund. >> Sir, you're recognized. >> Well, this this was so as we have the
the facilities board, the health facilities board which uh Baptist has has I guess funded that fund. Um we I guess we are required to um distribute that money to healthcare
you know to help other healthcare facilities. I know uh we always had in mind to help uh the clinic at uh Dr. Scott's clinic and then um I spoke with Reynold Martin who was here earlier today uh in regards to helping out um
thema Gibson housing health initiative. So, I just brought it to the commission to see if it's uh an option, if it's something that the commissioner would want to do because ultimately we're the ones that make the decision of where that money gets distributed to. So,
>> thank you. Um colleagues, any thoughts with regard to this? Madam Commissioner, you're recognized. >> Thank you. I I've actually had offline conversations as well. I wonder if the best way for us to do this is in the meeting that we have like that first of
the month, the first one that we have where we cover general items if that's not something we discuss or if we bring it up as a whole so we can see how much money we have and kind of the ideas that we have individually for how to use those funds before we s start to siphon
them off. I think it merits maybe a little bit more collaboration and a a better understanding of how much is there, what you know what you're discussing, how much is it, what we need to do maybe somewhere else, how much is it, what ideas the rest of us may have
for big or small uses of those funds so that we can make more of a complete decision instead of kind of like hammering it out little by little. >> This wasn't necess Oh, sorry. Um, this wasn't necessarily like to make a decision today on what amount we're
going to do. It's more of uh is this an organization that we're willing to help >> kind of and I agree with you. We can bring it up in one of our goals meetings and and then discuss how much we have and who we can disperse it to and and and how much because at the end of the
day, we would have the thema Gibson people come and and actually ask us how much they they need. But why do that if this is, you know, if if it's not somebody we're willing to >> to to give it to. So that's basically why the discussion item came up.
>> Sir, >> Commissioner Vich, I agree with you. I think that's a great way of of getting that communication out there as well. Um, two other things I wanted to add to that communication once we have it was, um, we do have a facility that we do clinical services for pediatrics. I know
the building's in a little bit of of needed of repair. I've asked the uh city manager to spread out maybe we can get the actual inspection report so we understand if there's any financial duties that we need to go respond and this would be a good way of using that set money. Um secondly I would love to
understand you know as we progress with the decision-m and hopefully we can be able to support them is just really understand what the Gibson initiative really is going to go do like what is their purpose and how they're going to distribute funds and what's their goal like I I just don't know much about it
but I would love to learn more about it. So just to close on this, I I want to make a request to all of us when we put a discussion item on the agenda and I think it's um a lotable idea. It's an organization, you know, founded by, you know, certainly a titan of our community
who we lost recently in Miss Gibson. So I have the utmost respect for her, uh their work and the organization. Um, but I think this is, you know, so we all are aware I I've gotten calls of concern
about from other organizations about the the the substance behind this item and and I find myself unable to address the concerns or alleviate those concerns because there's no information that's shared with us in our preparation for
discussing the items. So I I just want to ask us all as we put things on the agenda, if there's an idea that we want to explore, let's elaborate on it a little bit so we can at least know what the point of departure is for the conversation and and can and can preempt um uh some concerns that u may result
from my from my two cents. Again, I I do I I know the organization. I don't know their reach into South Miami. That's very important information. I will say though that we we do own a building uh that is in I've seen the inspection
report from February. The building has substantial capital needs and it does house a clinic that does serve um uh children and families in South Miami today. And and so my my preference would be to um certainly to the extent that we still have I think it's about a quarter
million dollars that was the proceeds or fees that we generated from that bond transaction. uh my first priority personally would be to spend it on addressing the physical needs of that building and to the extent that there's any money left over certainly we can entertain other alternatives. I just say that as you
know again our I think our it's our responsibility to make sure that our assets even though they're not under our operational control um since we just approved a lease extension there are in the best possible condition that they can be and so that would be my priority but again uh a more laudable
organization than Miss Gibson's health initiative I can't think of and I if the dollars would allow for it I certainly would be supportive of um of um making an award particular they are serving families in South Miami. So, those are my thoughts. Uh, colleagues, do we want
to have the manager work with Commissioner Rodriguez to kind of elaborate proposal and um and bring it back on to date certain for discussion? How do we want to dispense with this issue? So, on the 9th during the capital projects, capital project budget discussion. Is that when you were
>> thinking about discussing it then? >> That's a great idea. >> Okay. So, Mr. Manager, yeah, I recommen I I there's some work that that we need to do. um when when we were renewing the lease um we we didn't really have a handle on the condition of the property and as a requirement of that renewal um
we required an inspection and so that inspection report has been provided. Um I think what would be helpful in the conversation because I at this point I don't know the magnitude of the investment that's required to make the repairs you know whether it's you know 20,000 or 400,000 and I think that given
the report um we our next step was going to be to bring somebody on board to help us quantify that and and sort of put a number to it because I when I met with Commissioner Rodriguez I said I can't even let him know if there's any money available or not if we're going to apply that first to the building. Um, so we
don't have that answer for you and I think in fairness to to the conversation. I I uh I intended to try and focus on that first because it's a capital need that's going to just fall on us and instead of leaning on the general fund and uh I would lean on that
first, but I don't know what the ticket's going to be. So, you know, certainly with Commissioner Kay and and Commissioner Rodriguez background expertise and and doing work like this could help us get somebody in that could give us an indication of how much it would be. Then I think that that information would help you then is there
money available um to to award. >> So you're asking Commissioners Rodriguez and and GA to do the estimating work based on the report that we've gotten. >> Yeah. Proono. Um >> proono. >> No, I I think their guidance would be helpful and and you know that that's that's their background, right? That's
what they do. And and that's the next step that we need to take. we need to bring somebody in that would do that kind of work like a contractor and tell us this is what we or maybe find something that the report didn't find as well. Um but it's a it's a unknown uh impact uh that that I think is we're
going to have to absorb somehow. >> Okay. Well, let's let's see if we can advance that between now and June 9th is what I would suggest we put on that agenda and uh discuss what our options are then if there's no objection. Make sense? Okay. Thank you. With that, I'm
going to turn over the gavl to uh Commissioner Bonich, who's got a little bit of experience running meetings. So, we'll lean on her past experience. Mr. Vice Mayor, no offense, but I figured it'd be easier for her to do than than you not being in the room uh based on my personal experience uh trying to chair a
meeting remotely. Um and again, my apologies to everyone else. I just got to try to catch the last bit of my daughter's uh balorate services. So, have a good evening. >> Run. >> Thank you. >> Run. Not really. He can't run.
>> You want to do you want to go transition? >> I'm I'm ready to keep going. >> Okay. I know that we have people here for certain numbers. So, if you could tell me what numbers you're here for. We could try to maybe address those first
before we get to the items that we're just having as a matter of course. Number four. Okay. What about you guys? >> Do you know? >> 15. and 16. Okay.
See you. All righty. Let's go with >> Commissioner. We're going to do the consent items. If we want to pull any consent items, we just do them all at one shot. >> Yeah. I I don't need to pull any consent items. Do either of you? We're We're ready to vote on them as a
whole. If you'd like to make a comment about it before we do that, that would be fine. We're voting four is part of the consent. So Nikki will read them through and then we'll just vote on them as a block. >> Okay. >> All righty.
>> Consent agenda item one. A resolution of the city commission of the city of South Florida amending the city commission meeting scheduled to provide for only one commission meeting during the months of June 20 26, July 2026 and August 26. Item two, Ed Ros, mayor, city
commissioner of the city of South Florida, resetting the two regular city commission meetings in September 2026 to Tuesday, September 8, 2026 and Tuesday, September 22nd, 2026. Item three, a resolution of the mayor city commission of the city of South Florida confirming
the reappoint of Randolph Brown to the pension board of trustees. Item four, a resolution of the mayor city commission of the city of South Mary, Florida approving and authorizing wave for certain event related fees and cost and amount not to exceed $4,564
pursuant to section 15B-6 of the city code for a special event as known as the 2026 Junth celebration celebration presented by the South Black Culture Affairs Foundation to be held on Saturday June 20th 2026 at the Gibson
Betha Community Center. Item five, a resolution of the mayor, city commission of the city of South, Florida, approving the procurement and installation of a shade structure for the swing area at the South Miami Park and amount not to exceed $49,494.84 including a contingency using Elatch
County Public Schools contract number IFB24-13. >> Okay. Do we have any comments we'd like to make about any of those or are we ready? Huh? >> Okay. >> Is there anything for item four with Junth that you guys want to announce?
Maybe we can announce it now. >> Or or if you'd like to wait till we vote and then give more information. I think we all know which way we're going. >> Okay. If I could have someone move >> the consent items. >> I'll move the motion >> and a second. >> Second.
>> Awesome. We have a first in Commissioner Cay, second Commissioner Rodriguez. If we could please call the role. Yes. Commissioner Kag. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey. >> Yes. >> Item pass. The consent passes zero.
>> If you would like to come up and say anything about the Junth celebration, we'd love to hear about it. I just want to say that we'll be having our annual Junth celebration on June 20th, Saturday, from 2 to 6:00 p.m. And
I wanted to thank you in advance for your consideration and approval for this event. Uh we will be honoring uh uh Chief Corbin and a number of other persons. Um and basically the theme this
year is uh special tribute to city of South Miami difference makers. So we'd like to cordially invite all of you to come attend uh that session and uh we look forward to having you there. >> Thank you. >> This is I'll I'll get your flyer. Um
this is our Fisher flyer. >> Wonderful. Any questions? >> Does anyone know? >> Hopefully none. Okay, >> thank you very much. >> Okay, thank you. >> Okay, then let's see. Let's take up number 15. >> Item 15. An ordinance of the mayor and
city commission of the city of South Florida amending article 8 transit supported development district to amend regulations to by new definitions clarify existing provisions and modify procedures and certain certain criteria within the transit supported development
district. >> Mr. Manager, do you have any comments or are we bringing up Mr. Alvarez >> or or you see the city attorney? He he has comments. >> Mr. Alver is certainly uh u listed to to speak on it if if you need to.
>> Good evening, Mark Elvers for the city of South Miami Planning Department. >> Um so this is this is we're on first reading. We are continuing this item. Uh we had a few issues that we had to go over a little bit more. at your madam chair I mean at sure will we can either
go through the entire presentation or we'll go through the changes since we last spoke on first reading >> I think if we go through the changes it'll be easier and then if we have questions about that we'll elaborate further >> okay so um the items that we we had um
some discussion about okay we're as you know there were a lot of items on this um we had a lot of discussion about building massing and how we would control building massing and this seems to have become a problem as we go through certain um projects that hap
that occur on large long blocks. So we have developed some initial um concepts for the uh for inclusions into the code for addressing that. And the first is really to have architectural criteria considered in addition to the regularly
applicable site plan criteria. Um that would deal with that would address facade attributes, human scaled um streetscape design, ground floor um activation, building modulation and open space um regulations as well. These
are fairly as aspirational and the concept that we want to introduce is that the city commission would have more latitude to make decisions on these during the um large scale development approvals um and have the authority to modify these. We more or less already do, but
we're making that a little bit more clear. We also um have considered the idea that one of the reasons that we we get a pretty long way. We get to commission before we sometimes have to address these. So we want to come back and go to where we start in DRB. The
same discussion we've had with displaced trees and removal tree removals that by the time we get here we've gone for a very long um process. So what we are considering is to having a peer review by architects. So the way this would
work is um first of all it would be in the code and the architects would issue a written report the same way that we would have for example on a tree removal permit we would have an arborist issue a written report. Um that would have to be something that we would have to work on
with how do we implement that. Um we would have to have a probably rotating list of architects that we would call. We would also have to integrate that with our what is it? House Bill 39. No, 399 is wrong. It's the one that allows private providers to um enter into some
of the zoning requirements, but we would um like to have an architect, a licensed architect provide an opinion to the DRB, to the planning board, and to the commission, a written report on some of the architectural features. Because as we spoke about this initially that we
recognized that we we had decided when we wrote this code that we were going to be eclectic. We would not have a particular style such as in Coral Gables. Without that style comes very hard to create regulations that control some of the issues that we're seeing. We
know that some of the details of penistration and where we put the windows and where we put the corners and you know lentils and capstones and so forth can have an on how the building looks and we've seen this in some of the process that we've gone through five or
six developments coming through already. So we think that that's one way to address it is more procedural manner and it will be an extra report and it would be of course under cost recovery will be at the applicant expense. The other side of this is um more
specifically we had um talked about having a a waiver process and this was directed at we have a problem with the six-story blocks uh six yes the sixtory blocks at the edges of the downtown district or DSDD where we have a regulation that was meant to control
towers on 8 to 16 story buildings and it does the opposite of what we want. We have a regulation that says that the tower part will be a smaller floor plate. Sorry to use the word floor plate continuous contiguous building floor area. And we recognize that really at
these edges the ground level is more important than the upper stores, excuse me. Um so what's in your package right now that's been um has been provided for a waiver process. And again, one of the other things we wanted to get away from was a a variance process. A waiver that
would require a building not to exceed 30,000 square feet at the ground level um would include open space that exceeds 15% and have and make sure that it retains all the specimen trees unless there's a compelling reason to move them
or remove them and that any of the specimen trees that need to be moved will be moved on site to the additional open space and that's in your package right now. So in the in the week, a little bit more than a week, we started modeling what these kinds of things do.
Um on so this is a five, this is a 550 foot long block, 200 ft wide. We we just dealt with that, but this is really meant to be an ordinance that would affect other blocks, particularly all of our blocks that are sixtory blocks south of 74th Street. Um and we have one
that's uh just north of 71st, 71st Street, 70th Street. um that will be across from 62nd. So we we want to have an ordinance that will address all these blocks because right now the ordinance exposes us to having a mega building occupy those blocks. We talked about a
PO literally splitting the block. And so what we did is we we took a model and put all the regulations into it and then the because there's not a lot of time we use AI to sort of fill in the the trees and environment. Um, as we looked at
this, we realized it worked pretty well, but the problem is it takes a lot of development space away from the project. So, this right now is 30 these are 30,000 square foot plates, but they are way over 15% 15,000 square feet of open space. They're taking away a lot of
development, right? So, that was one thing that we talked about and I want to present these to you just so you see the kinds of effects when we just do the 15% open space. Because on these on a lot of projects, we're seeing linear open space being
used. In other words, we give them the option of a plaza or some kind of the internal plaza or just more or less create the setback. Um that's typically used and it doesn't create a lot of effect to the massing of the building. And then finally, we just decided let's
take to about 40 something% open space and we started to see that open space does work, but we need to have a lot more of it. So the the end result I'm sorry I mentioned the end result is that we are considering right now is to as we go forward with this ordinance we may
take a little more time on this part with the waiver and with controlling massing because we recognize that in this amount of time that we've had it's not enough to come up with something that we feel will be reliable controls for this this effect. Um so with that I
guess I wanted to show you these concepts and how they result. We'd like to work more with the commission and some of your ideas and try to keep modeling them out until we start to see something that will be reliable and that will work for us as an ordinance um both
on the part of having an extra review by architects licensed architect and also in terms of the code itself where we're trying to deal with everything by form by the way the building sits on the ground where it sits on the ground how much open space we have. We work with
the amount of glazing. Those are kind of our tools and We really need to work on metering that out just the right way. So with that at your discretion, I mean, we could um take these two items for further consideration and and continue with the
rest of the ordinance or if you want, we can just come back in second reading with some more thoughts. >> Y'all have any comments? >> Okay. I mean, look, so just recently I started looking at the different opportunities south of 74th Street, uh,
where we have a density of 100 per acre, six stories, and then, you know, it caters back and forth depending. So, this this these units will fall in that scenario, especially when we're dropping down closer to the residential areas, >> right? >> So, I'm okay with this going through first reading, but I would love to get
with you between first and second reading to kind of go this a little bit further and understand what we can and can't do. For example, I'm looking at some of the scenarios here and we're not really taking into account maybe parking, right? So, uh massing massing is not something that we
love, but we also need that there's understanding that with that type of density, there needs to be parking and the floor coverage also needs to be, you know, looked into. So, I would love to keep continue to conversate with you on this particular thing and and get some feedback from some of other people in
the >> in the industry so we can get some feedback. >> Actually, that was one of the comments on the one where we split the with the with the po we can no longer have the garage connected to both buildings and there's and of course as you know >> everything can go in ratios up and down
except parking parking space is so big the aisle is so big and it's you know there's perfect dimensions and there's very imperfect dimensions >> we'll continue to work >> yes please >> no I I already told when when we met I I like the idea of splitting up the
building and If if they go past the the floor plate, they got to go all the way down. I I'm happy with it. >> I I agree with you. I And it's an interesting thing. I think we see not so much here, but in other places where
buildings are split up and there's something going on below it, there's something going on, a bridge. There's something that's connect connecting these two buildings. It's not something that nobody's ever seen that isn't doable. It is very doable. So, even if we're looking at saying, "Hey, you know what? The parking massing is what's kind
of throwing this all off." Like, I I understand the concept of it, but I also think there's so many ways to skin a cat that for us to just stay with what we're seeing now essentially because
we understand that parking is an issue because I don't want to look at that. >> There are solutions and in fact, the bridge was something we came up because under our code right now when we put a PO through a block we can actually go over it. Um we had a lot of trouble
figuring out what height we would need. Obviously if it's a 10 foot high or 15 foot high it becomes a cave and we were trying to work with >> sure >> how that works. Um we've we looked around in in other places. We have a new planner from Seattle, so we got some
experience from there. And um we notice when we do have the cutthroughs, how the walls move in and out into the cut through makes a big difference. So again, it's just we're trying to digest what works and uh we'll we'd like to work with you. We think this is very important to do because we're having a
problem with this. But um yeah, I mean depending on how you want to approach it if you want to >> and I can't rest. >> I can't see Commissioner I I can't see Vice Mayor Corey, so I don't know if he wants to say anything. >> No, thank you. I just wanted to state my preference as well splitting up the
buildings. I know that creates a lot of challenge with parking and with, you know, viability to develop. But if we can work on a solution that works that way, I think that's the that would be my preference. >> The the only challenges that I'll tell
you, my colleagues, is that when you take away a lot of that space, um it it doesn't come as viable to build. >> So, we just got to take that into consideration. I'll give you an example of something that I saw that's it's really close. It's right across the
street from uh Subtext. So, Sub across the street from Subtext is University of Miami and they have five, sixtory buildings there, all condos, very quaint, trees everywhere, aligned, and it's quiet. And I think that if we look a lot of the community south of 74th
Street or along 50 or 62nd Avenue, I would love to see something of that manner where it's quiet, residential. Um, so I would invite you guys to kind of go through there and see it. It's literally right across the street where Subex is where the university condos are. You don't really know they're there
because they're so quiet, but it's they're sixtory buildings or condos and It's really nice. >> Cool. >> Six. >> I'm trying to think where that would be. I drive by all the time. >> It's It's covered by trees. You just can't see it, but it's nice.
>> I walked over there yesterday. That's why I >> Is it close to I'm trying to like if you have a gauge where is it closer to 64? Is it like closer to >> I'll tell you right now. >> I'm sorry. No, >> if I may. Yeah, there there's one uh
minor item that uh we noticed. We got some feedback um from actually from Mr. Bass. Um we have building encroachment language. We have had that since the beginning of PSD. This these are like regular canopies, balconies, that kind of thing. Uh he had mentioned uh garage
screening. That's sometimes because we have a build to line that we have to build to and if we require screening, which we do on these uh these garages, uh sometimes it it sticks out a few inches. So it's it would be uh to allow screening um within the from the build
two line to the property line. That's what we >> want to incorporate for for second reading. >> And that's there's a change in in this code as well that >> goes to the property line for the encroachment uh line. >> Okay. Did you all hear that?
>> No. >> Okay. Can you repeat it for me? >> Uh sure. Sure. Uh we we presently allow uh building encroachments uh over between the uh the build two line to the property line uh for balconies for canopies. This would extend that same uh
ability for the garage screening. >> How high up? >> Uh would have to start uh at it can't be at on the first, you know, first 25 ft, the first floor. >> 25. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, isn't that what Subtex is doing? >> Yeah. Yes. Yes. But we don't really have the uh
>> it's not currently allowed. So we would like to provide for it. >> Okay. >> Vice Mayor Corey, do you have any thoughts on that? >> Sorry, we just can't see you. Can we put this down so that we can see him, please? >> No. No, that's okay. Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. So, I none of us have any >> problems with that. >> I'm going to review it before. >> Okay. So, are we ready >> to vote on this? >> It's a public hearing. >> Oh, okay. Does anyone in the public have any commentary?
>> Seeing no one, >> anyone on Zoom, please raise your virtual hand. >> All right, we're seeing no one in person or virtually. So, we will say the public comment section is closed and moving forward. Do we have a motion for this item?
>> I'll move it. Second. >> Perfect. We have Commissioner Kay with a motion. Commissioner Rodriguez with a second. If we could please call the role. >> Yes. Commissioner Cay. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Monish. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey. >> Yes.
>> Item passes first. >> Perfect. Can we hit number 16, please? >> Item 16. An ordinance of the mayor city commission of the city of South Florida amending section 8.8 bonus allocations to amend regulations related to transfer of development rights and payments in l
of inind public benefits within the transit supported development district. >> Okay. This was originally brought forth by our mayor but he is not here. Do either do you guys have something to say? >> I'm happy to explain it. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sure. So, this this went uh this
was a discussion item uh at the last meeting. Um the this is a rewrite um or an amendment really to the TDR provisions and to the uh the payment in LU provisions. Essentially it's setting
up a three kind of a threepart or three uh options in terms of satisfying bonus floor area to get to get to the higher height. Uh you can do it through inind benefits which are things like workforce, affordable housing, public open space, those kinds of things. So in kind you're you're actually providing
it. uh you can do it through TDRs or you can do it through payment in loop. Um and you can piece those together uh however however you know whatever it is that you need to to get to to where you're trying to go. Um in terms of the changes to the Sunset Drive
area bonus, that's that's the TDR donor area. Uh this is providing um you may remember from the last uh commission meeting there was a discussion as to uh if they're going to uh limit themselves to a property that extends beyond the
Sunset Drive buffer area that they would get uh credit for those for those uh TDRs and be able to convey those TDRs. Uh so we've provided for that in this they would have to commit to that by by covenant um and basically declare we're not building above this this height. Um
so the only the um the rest of this ordinance kind of walks through like the particulars of that and the procedure for it. Um the one thing that is an open question is um so they do not have to provide their
certificate of transfer until they are uh obtaining their building permit. That means >> what >> permit >> should be it's uh certific prior to building permit issuance >> to to to get the TDR.
>> Yes. Basically basically to perfect the TDR. So they'd have to they'd have to prove we've got the certificate from that building over there. We are getting our our our uh our building permit. >> Okay. Oh, for the for the for the purchaser. >> For the purchaser.
>> Yeah, I should have been clear about that. My apologetic. Okay. >> Correct. Correct. Um, we there's a there's a there's a there's a catch here which has to do with like the timing of the building permit application and the costs of reviewing
because they could they could run through this entire process and stretch this whole process out and then at the end say, "Oops, I don't have it. I'm just going to pay the payment in le." Um we presently have a 37.5% penalty uh for
a similar situation where they say we're going to do a let's say we're going to do affordable housing the entire way and then they say okay at building permit they they they say well we'll just pay the payment in L. Well there's a penalty for that. Okay this would be a similar situation. Um uh we've provided that
they would fall into that situation but but there's a there's another element to this which is a a cost deposit element. Okay. Um where they are committing that they are going to provide this because we are going to go through that entire process of review and if there's no
money at the end of the rainbow, we're stuck holding the bag. We spent the we spent all of that. We do collect an upfront fee, but it may not be enough to get through that entire permit. And since it's not due until the actual permit issuance, what we uh would recommend is some level of cost
deposit kind of to hold that. So, uh, that's a blank in this. We left that blank. We don't have to fill that blank out now, but I wanted to put that on your radar. Um, and I'm happy to walk through that with you guys more in depth. But >> the commissioner. >> Cool. Yeah. Right. Through the commissioner. Yes.
>> Um, I have a question. So, that's if we're reviewing it. What if it's private provider? >> Even Well, maybe the cost is less. Maybe we provide a two-tiered because we're still going to have some level of review even with a private provider. But but you're raising a good point.
>> I think it's just one at the end, right? I believe private provider. >> Well, there's still going to be zoning review, public works review. There is a an overall building review still as part of that. Um I would uh >> but I believe that's once the >> Miss Cabrera is here. She can elaborate. >> Yeah. >> But there are some reviews that are
still that still. >> No, they happen. But at the end once the private provider provides their report, >> that's when all that's when the final review happens. No, >> not really. happens director. So the private provider is only Florida building code and they
could submit for all the outside agencies and agencies within the city public works zoning whatever it is without having a private provider package in place. So actually I would typically recommend that they do that because otherwise your private provider
may be reviewing something that zoning would change and would actually have to go back to the private provider again. So, >> but if they are using a private provider, then how how do you the penalty like how do you assess? >> Well, it's it's not really a penalty.
It's a cost deposit. It it would be applied towards their building permit, you know, so they don't they would only lose it if they were to, you know, I guess they don't get their TDRs at the end and they pull out. That's that's the way the scenario would work. Um, so they would they would forfeit that under that
scenario. So, um, it's basically it it's the way we wrote it. It's a percentage of what they would pay the payment in loot that they would owe at the end if they didn't get their if they if they did not get their TDRs. You know, if they're saying we're going to do this many TDRs, well, what's the payment in L
for that many? Right. And and it would be some percentage of that. I don't know, 20 25%. I leave that up to you guys. >> No, I'm not. >> Okay. because you're like >> because if they don't if if so if the
purchaser of those TDRs doesn't end up buying those TDRs which they're doing it because the market is is stipulating a price >> if the deal falls through >> if the deal >> if the deal falls through really that's what that's what we're covering >> because if not they'll just buy the TDRs
from us they'll buy the bonus points off >> well that that's what I'm saying if they if they but but if they get to the end it's it's a very like we think We hope it's a rare scenario. They've got a contract to buy TDRs. They're moving along and something happens. The deal falls through. Now they're left holding
the bag at permit >> and but now they don't have the money to to make the payment in loop or they don't want to make the payment in loop. Maybe the project doesn't pencil out anymore, >> right? Well, we just did, you know, however many months of review and we're left holding that. >> I got you.
>> This is to make us whole. >> Okay. >> Or to protect us at least. >> I would ask I don't know about my colleagues but what what percentage what what does the other municipalities for example what would corable do they do that and if they do what do they char
what percentage do they charge or pancress or any other city >> I would have to look into it I don't know off the top of my head actually >> I don't think they do they don't do >> what yes please >> thank you good evening Nick firm of
bills and sun50 50 Brickle Avenue. Um to answer that question, we did a little research today and we haven't found any other jurisdiction that really do this thing that we're talking about. Um uh we working with the city attorney's office and we're committed to continuing to do that through second reading. What one
thing I did find out today is that the the upfront application fee is actually pretty significant. I think in the instance I heard about today was hundreds of thousands of dollars. So I I don't know necessarily whether this needs to be, you know, in an example of
a $2.5 million payment in Lu that 20 25% number on top of hundreds of thousands of dollars that it's required upfront for the building permit application um which I think is intended to cover kind of the downside that we're talking about seems excessive that would only be
applied in this one case. So, I want to we're going to continue to work together and try to find what that right number is if if that if the existing permit scheme doesn't satisfy kind of the what the city attorney's office is trying to protect against. Um, but I I think it's
it's certainly, you know, much lesser of a number than, you know, 20 25%. I think we're talking more like, you know, 1% $25,000. I'm just understanding that there is a significant chunk of money that's required up front for a building
permit. I my understanding is the intent of that is to protect against this exact scenario. This exact downside where the city should not be left holding the bag for any staff time went into that building permit review. In the event that we do this analysis and it comes out that the hundreds of thousands of
dollars are not sufficient, then of course I think that would play into what this answer is. I think we need to kind of work together a little bit further to see what the right fit is. So just I would ask to allow us to keep working with the city attorney's office. Let us look at a couple actual scenarios what
those building permit fees were upfront to make sure that the city is protected um and that this kind of works so it doesn't kind of destroy the TDR program um for the wrong cause. >> I have a a question for you. So you're saying no other city is charging this
fee. >> We would be a penalty fee. Exactly. >> A penalty fee that we found. That's right. I mean, every several cities will will charge the building permit application fee up front up front, which is a a percentage of the total fee
that's expected at the end of the day. in a in the case of a a applicant that is using a TDR program rather than buying those same development rights from from the city or some other bonus program. We did not
find uh either in Coral Gables or City of Miami where they required some additional upfront cost on top of the building permit application fees because they're engaging in this TDR program. >> All right. Thank you. >> Sure. >> Do you have anything you'd like to say?
No, I think I agree with Mr. Nova. I need to uh there's a lot of questions that I have inside and I remember when we first came up with the TDR through a lengthy process before. >> Um so we're making the amendments and changes. I just have a few other questions I want to take offline. So between one and two, we'll work on it.
>> Okay. How about Vice Mayor Corey? Do you have anything you'd like to add? >> No, I think that's a good idea for us to sit uh down and work some things out between one and two. So, I I understood the comments the gentleman just made, so I'm I'm I'm fine with waiting to hear it again on the second.
>> Okay, perfect. >> And Commissioner Rodriguez, >> just to put on the record, the only part of the TDR portion that is not the sellers side. This is just the purchasers where we're fixing it. The program >> there there are there are some changes
to the seller side. I mean, mine are just procedural essentially, but yeah. Yeah, this is this is kind of streamlining the process. Yeah. >> To make it more apt. It basically shifts and um it >> the way it was originally written, >> it required all this work done up front
>> before the and and that was part of the reason why we didn't need anything or we didn't feel like we needed any anything like this this uh cost deposit scenario. Now this is shifting everything to the back end basically. uh uh to make it a little more feasible
for these these things to work. So for instance uh Mr. notice client uh received certain approvals. uh they can now under this scenario uh they have some time now after their approval to go
seek out you know or to encourage uh owners of properties within the sunset buffer to spend the money that they need to spend to perfect those TDRs which is what kind of the purpose of the program is so that they can purchase those TDRs and there's some time to get to make that happen as opposed to having to do
it all on the front end before they come and get their special exception. So, basically, they would get their special exception and then go to the marketplace and and and try to um just because a bu a property has TDRs, you don't qualify for those TDRs unless you spend money
invested in your building. >> Correct. And and I think there's something that's important to say and I I I said it I don't know if it was the last meeting or another meeting where we've you know this when these discussions were being had it was hey
you know fix your building so that you can sell these TDRs and the money would be coming for your improvements from the sale of these TDRs right that's how you were supposed to kind of >> recuperate >> recuperate your stuff whatever so that it didn't come at an additional cost to
you as a building owner. >> Well, and at the same time also it was also a way of help not I wouldn't say helping but justifying that they didn't get anything out of the zoning upgrades. >> Yes. >> So that money that they were taking in
is what another developer two blocks down would take in by putting up a 10-story building. >> Yep. And so I I think it's important that when we have these conversations that we keep in mind that that doesn't mean make your building beautiful so you
you know you can and I said this everybody was like so that we can then you know charge the tenants an exorbitant amount. I understand that as a matter of course, the values of these locations will go up as everybody does
the work. But I think we need to be very cognizant. What we're trying to do at the beginning of this is take care of shopkeepers, take care of business owners, that kind of thing. We don't want to see this then become a vehicle to hike up people's rent when you fix
it. And then we are getting rid of the people we wanted in the first place, which is what you saw, you know, in same same but different. Lincoln Road, you're seeing it, you know, you're seeing it all over the place. So, I just I I want us to to keep this in mind when we make these decisions. It doesn't just affect
one person or one type of person. That's all I'm going to say about that. >> Well, I think can I add to that? I think maybe to the Mr. Attorney is that's a form of rent control. Is that that we can do. Is that something that we can
>> I know, but it really is what you're asking for. But >> no, I'm just saying you No, but No, no. I I don't say that we have to do rent control. I think we just Dude, we just need to be human. >> You know, I'm sorry. You know what? I
We can make money without being crazy. We can repair our buildings without choking out people. I'll give you a perfect example, and it's not here. It's been all over the news everywhere. Acme in Nashville, the mayor of Nashville went crazy,
raised taxes on businesses an exorbitant amount. Now, a bunch of businesses in Nashville are closing because he can't afford it because the building owners, of course, passed the increases to the tenants. So, you're losing the the charm of what you had and you're getting, you know, 17
Banana Republics, 13 anthropologies, and three Lululemons. um but you've lost the charm of what you had. So I think it's just a balance for us and we I don't think should dictate to people what they can charge. But I think we also need to say hey you know
what we all collectively wanted to keep a charm in our downtown area and the TDRs were part of how you keep that charm without choking people that had these smaller businesses. You know the the and by smaller I mean lower that
they can't go higher. So, I just I just think I'll I'll keep saying it because at some point it's got to humanize it for some people. >> Yeah. I don't think that works. I mean, art our thing. >> Well, rent control is a scary thing. Steve, >> you know what I codifying it somehow is
what really And you can't, right? So, >> it's so prohibited under the statute. >> I think Commissioner Boniches I mean I I agree with you 100% and we continue to say it. It's just there's no way to enforce it. There's no way to codify it. But you know what? If we keep saying it,
maybe we make a dent on some human person. >> We are human. >> All righty. >> So, we ready to vote on this one? >> Sure. After first reading, we still got to go. >> Yep. Okay.
Do I have a >> I'll move it. >> And do I have a second >> for Brian? >> A second. >> I was going to say we've left you out of that one. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Please call the role. >> Yes. Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Cay. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Yes.
>> Vice Mayor Cory. >> Yes. >> It'll pass on first reading 4 Z. >> Perfect. If I am correct, we still have M124 N1 and then we have hanging out 8 and 13.
>> Seven. >> Seven. Madam Chair, could could we tell if you could indulge me on seven? Um, >> we want to hit seven first. >> We have some consultants here that support us on this one. Plus, >> there's a time-sensitive nature. I just want to make sure it doesn't fall out at
the end of the night because pursue a grant and this step has to be taken and we have a deadline on that grant. So, if it's possible. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. Item seven, a resolution of the mayor city commission of the of the city of South Florida adopting the safe streets
and road for all SS4A South Miami safety action plan including its associated safety policies, procedures and project recommendations. Okay. All right. Alex Munoz public works and we have Chris Benedites here from
Stantech. I'm just going to kind of do a quick introduction here on this item. You all had um a presentation on this already uh a couple of months earlier. So what this is what you have here today. We have uh obviously the project team is here which you'll see shortly.
Uh the history of this is you have reviewed it. The city started this uh back in uh 2024 and 2025. Uh we're going to go through what this is which is um the work that was done to identify uh safety issues throughout the
city. Uh at the end of this we have uh a list of projects which I think is important for the commission to see and understand. I'm going to talk about that in a second. And we also have policies and recommendations which are important and the Chris from Stantic is going to cover those. Uh this is the project
team. Not sure why they put me on there but it makes it better. Uh and we do want to thank um uh we do want to thank Stantech. They have been a great partner in this and some of their team members are here as well. Uh they've been a great partner and very
patient with us and uh very creative in in getting this done. Um so what is the safety action plan? Uh you have this here in front of you. Uh the main goal here is to find area where where the drivers, pedestrians and cyclists face
the most risk. Uh if you recall this was presented to you. Uh they looked at data obviously. They've also gotten input uh from folks that live in the city uh through surveys and getting feedback. Um and this is done based on a system
that's already in place. uh they're going to talk about fixing the problem. That's uh you know identifying those those uh trouble spots and recommending projects. That's what you're going to see here. There could be all different types of projects and and you're going to see a lot of that. Some of these are already in the works and others are
going to be new projects uh for us. And then I talked about policies. That's something that is as important as the uh the actual projects to making sure we have the policies in place that as we grow, as we do new projects, even some of the discussions you were having today, those safety considerations are
uh put in place. Uh if you recall, you saw the map about hotspots and the streets. Uh this is when we were in front of you and you saw the safety analysis and it was based on the high injury network. Um so you see here what's been done since that meeting. Uh
that meeting talked a lot about where the problems were and um and we discussed uh the streets and and some of the areas and some of the neighborhoods where they're greatly impacted and Chris is going to talk about the statistics of where most of the accidents uh occur.
We'll remind you of that. So here uh the goal again as I mentioned is to have uh present you with the solutions uh for these uh these problems that have been identified. And uh I'm going to bring up Chris at this point. He can talk a little bit about the details here that
you see. This is not new uh information. Uh but this is what was presented before. One of the things that I wanted to mention is we're on a little bit of a timeline as the manager said because uh the grant process was moved up. That wasn't part of our original uh timeline. Our original timeline was to have
something done for the budget which is why we're here now. Uh however, the grant deadlines were moved from July to now the end of May. Uh so we have to move this forward and hopefully with uh successful consideration uh from the
commission, we'll be able to move forward and apply for some of the grants to offset some of these projects. These projects won't be done in one year. It'll take several years to to get these uh different projects done. So with that, Chris, the floor is yours.
Good evening, commissioners. All right. Um, so, uh, so the, uh, this safety action plan, it is one, one important consideration. It's funded by, uh, FHWA's safe streets and roads for all SS4A
uh, grant program. This is, uh, specifically with the planning grant program, planning grant program. We also have the implementation grant which I'm going to talk a little bit about at the end of the slides. But uh this act this action plan was developed by the uh
planning grant. So um the the main focus of this is to um or at least the goal is to uh to eliminate fatalities and serious injury crashes. How do you do that? So one of the the methods with
this SS4A program is to to look at the data the um the data driven process and also get uh obtain community uh consent. So uh one of the ways that this is achieved is to uh evaluate the crash
data develop that high injury network also looking at the riskbased network. Those are locations that may have a an elevated crash risk and that could uh include locations depending on roadway characteristics, land use characterist,
demographics, activity centers. We also as part of the development of the safety action plan, there's community based inputs inputs which uh Alex was talking about. We have a a web page set up. Uh we conducted a survey, an interactive survey where the
community an interactive mapbased survey where the community provided input at uh specific locations to provide their feedback and uh and we worked with a communication team to get the word out of the survey through different channels, Facebook, Instagram, uh
community uh the the city's communication uh process as well. And also as part of this plan, uh there's a there's an emphasis on looking at KSI, which is FA fatal and serious injury crashes. These all go into the hopper to
identify uh the foundation for the recommendations uh which are project locations and types of treatments. So some of the key findings uh from the analysis uh one of the key findings is 89% of the
fatalities and serious injury crashes have occurred in 10% of the roadways within the city. So this is an important statistic because this helps the city to um to to
focus the limited resources at those locations that have a high demonstrated safety uh concern. The safety analysis uh also helped to identify some of the key
emphasis areas which goes into um identifying safety countermeasures at any of the project locations. These engineering counter measures they're organized into addressing those emphasis areas. So there's intersection
based type improvements, signalization, midblock treatment, speed management, that was a community concern, uh lighting as well. And um the the big takeaway is the safety action plan has a chapter that's dedicated to these engineering counter measures, these
safety counter measures. They um it's not an exhaustive list of different counter measures. And for each of these project locations, um they uh it should they should consider uh other additional counter
measures or modifications to those countermeasures based off of any uh sight specific evaluations for each of those project locations, agency coordination, um cost considerations. The the one other idea to keep in mind
is that the um These counter measures, they're all consistent with FDOT design criteria, proven safety counter measures. We coordinated with the county about these counter measures. They're on board with it. They they implement these types of counter counting measures in
the county. So, um we have the buy off from the county FDOT and uh these counter measures the the other takeaway is that the counter measures are what's used to inform the different improvements at each of the project locations.
So the project locations that have been identified from the safety analysis, they were organized into different tiers. Tier one, these are locations that have a documented fatal and serious injury crash. Tier two, locations that
are part of the high injury network and tier three, locations that are part of the riskbased network. So this provides a balance of locations identified uh w with crash data but also locations that are more intended for proactive safety
planning. And from there uh the there was a total of 27 project locations identified through the for the safety action plan organized into the the tier one and tier 3es.
The uh locations include a mix of intersections, corridors, midblock crossings. Uh there was an overwhelming number of intersections that were identified from this because intersections are uh one of the emphasis areas from the study. It's an emphasis area in the Florida strategic highway
safety plan. And it's a it's it's a a location where there's an interaction between vehicles, bicyclists, and pedestrians, which bicyclists and pedestrians, another emphasis area, those are vulnerable road users. So, there are a lot of intersectionbased
uh locations that have been identified from this plan, including US1 corridor and intersections, uh Sunset Drive, uh several intersections within the downtown area, which is a higher activity area. and pedestrians.
The locations also include a mix of jurisdictions. So there's uh city roadways, there's uh county and FDOT facilities. The jurisdiction jurisdictional context. It's an
important uh consideration for the implementation of the project. uh city lo city locations are going to have a more direct uh implementation pathway. Uh and in fact, we're actually already working with the city on connecting those projects with the
capital improvement program such as the Sunset Drive improvement project. Uh county and FDOT locations, they're going to require an additional layer of coordination, uh reviews, approval, partnership agreements.
The project locations include a mix of different um cost categories and complexities. So there's projects that includes lower cost improvements like signing signing and pavement marking uh traffic signal
upgrades, crossing enhancements to the more larger profile projects such as a a raised intersection. So the but the main takeaway that the safety action plan includes a table with uh each project location that has all of
these elements and also an implementation approach for each of these projects to help inform uh the next steps for those projects and also to uh it gives the the city an opportunity to explore funding opportunities for those projects.
So there's location based recommendations and then there's the policy and process recommendations which are more of the systemic type recommendations. Policy and process recommendations they give the city a framework for continuing
to address safety as part of the uh decision making for uh for the future. So this includes u well in the safety action plan it's categorized as leadership type of recommendations
transparency and progress which is a it's a requirement in SS4A for transparency and progress uh engineering education and outreach and enforcement. Uh an example of a few of these. Um one
of the recommendations is to designate a city um safety champion or coordinator to help continue moving the different pieces of the action plan forward. Uh, another recommendation is um analytical
performance measures to continue monitoring the progress of safety in the city and uh and ensuring that projects keep on getting implemented. There's also um recommendations to integrate safety into the uh reservicing and
capital improvements plan for uh future projects in the city. Education on outreach activities include like rodeos. That's something the city's already conducting. And uh enforcement activities, coordination with enforcement with, excuse me, um the city's police department to potentially
do targeted enforcement at those high-risk uh safety locations that were identified from the plan. So, uh, today the the main goal today is, um, we're
we're here to, uh, request adoption of the safety action plan. And really what it what it provides is, um, one, it's a datadriven, community informed process to help uh, identify the safety improvements
uh, to make the streets a safer place. Uh it includes project uh locations uh safety strategies, policy recommendations, implementation approach and uh funding opportunities to or identify funding
opportunities. At least it sets it up to pursue funding opportunities. And one of those funding opportunities is the SS4A implementation grant which the deadline is next week uh for this grant. One of the requirements for this implementation
grant is a an adopted safety action plan. So the so what's continuing right now is um the uh the safety action plan well I should say after the the the safety
action plan some of the things that are going to continue the city's already implementing a lot of these project locations and connecting that with a capital improvements plan and one of the main project uh that's being uh prioritized is that US1 grade crossing
study. So, that's going to help support some uh specific treatments, potentially build upon what we have in the action plan already. The other uh continued uh activity is there's going
to be continued implementation planning for this action plan for the recommendations. And what that means is essentially uh we're going to be working with FDOT and the county on refining the implementation pathway for a lot of these projects. uh recommendations. We're going to be working with the TPO
on pursu uh looking at other funding strategies. We're going to work with other city departments to identify if there's any other policy process recommendations that can be incorporated with the action plan. So, with that, um I'm I'm finished with my pre
presentation. Thank you very much. And I'm open for some questions. >> I'm sure you're going to get them from everybody. Commissioner Rodriguez, wait. Are we okay? >> No, it's all right. >> Is the slide that important?
>> It's an actual actual project. >> Oh, okay. I'm like, what what are we looking for? >> So, I I could ask Alex, what how much is the the grant for? >> Uh there's different amounts. We are going to apply for the the the
priorities that were the most serious conditions. Uh at least 500,000 we're going to apply for. There's different tiers as you saw here. And so we're going to go after the first two tiers, which was going to be over 500, probably, you know, near a million
dollars, but um there's not a set number. It's it's open >> in terms of what we can apply for. >> And and that money is used to actually not just do studies, but also actually do >> like
>> implementation. Implementation. >> Yes. Imple it's for implementation. Yes. I mean, some of it might be designing an implementation, but not studying at this point. Okay. >> It's going to be mostly focused on design and actual project implementation. >> Yes, in some cases you might need a study because you got to capture you
know data. >> There's always a study. >> There's always a study. >> There's always a study. >> You know that. So there is a list of projects and you can see that there's you know dollar amounts there uh that describe. I know it's small but it is in the available to you. So you could see what some of the problem areas that were
pointed out and some of the recommended fixes. So, this gives us a really good list to build on for the next couple of budget years. Uh, you know, we're going to like like you you you asked, good question. What are we going to pursue? We're going to pursue the the first couple of tiers of priorities.
>> Great. I mean, the importance for me was implementation. Yeah. This money per great. >> Yep. They've they've done the work of identifying the problems. So, now we can move to the implementation side. >> Great. Thank you, >> Commissioner Kay. Do you have any? >> Yeah, I do. Um, thank you for the
presentation. Uh, I I think that and we're all looking for action, right? I I think the plan speaks for itself. You know, I see a little I have questions specifically on the FDOT and the county projects. Um, what we've seen in the past is the
the not I don't want to use reluctance, but the inability to move forward and implement a lot of the corrections. We've had corrections for ADA studies. We have uh implementation studies from the F dot on a variety of different things on US1 corridor. What do you
suggest or how do how do we get the process going with FOD to make sure because I mean US1 is the major corridor major and all the X's and all the greens that we saw is M on US1. What what is the suggestion from you guys on how we can implement a lot of stuff on FDOT for
example on US1? So uh so one of the things with the the action plan a lot of the potential treatments uh these are kind of like a starting point you know painting the canvas uh these treatments these they're
consistent already with FDOT criteria so that already um that already provides a certain level of comfort with them however it is um there is definitely a lot of work to be done for the implementation of those projects with FDOT or even the county. Uh, and I would
say one of the things that we we always do with projects is we like to with FDOT involvement, we like to have early coordination meetings with them just to get a sense, show them this is what we have for the action plan. These are some of the ideas we have, what do you all
think? What do you think are the next steps that are um, you know, to get this implemented or to to have this considered? So, it's it's it's all about having those conversations with them. I would assume they would be having all that stuff in the like we have we have the underlying that we've had to
coordinate with FDOT all the way across the board. Uh the metro station, the bus systems that we've had south of of Dayland. Like I I would just imagine that there's been a lot of consideration from FDOT how to do this corrections, the the safe plan, you know, the zero plan that goes all the way across the
county. I just feel like you know for example a lot of the next steps that we have here is consider the is consider the US1 a grade study what is that what is what is I I I really don't know what that is what what is the grade study at US1 that you guys have in the next steps
here >> so the US1 atgrade study is a study that the city of South Miami is going to be conducting where it's going to be a detailed evaluation at each of the intersections along US1 within the the city's limit and It's going to include
the detailed evaluation is going to include traffic evaluations, safety evaluations, um evaluating potential treatments, and working with FDOT on the solutions to see what they would be open to incorporating on their system.
>> Commission is on that one a little bit. >> Yeah. Can you elaborate? Is it does it have to do because we have I feel like we have so many things going on. Yes. So can is this something that we spoke about with the traffic studies or the the traffic study that we want to do that has the three different zones that we've identified throughout the city?
It's related to that the the ATR grade study specifically and unfortunately it's been a prolonged process on getting a contract from the US DOT that's actually has been in the budget now for one or two years but at least the last year and what it is is to uh look at all
the intersections on US1 that belong to you know in the city from 80th to red road we've talked about it the Taco Bell the pharmacy turn all of those so we're looking at all of those to see safety improvements on everything pedestrians cars obviously and bicycles and how to
improve those crossings there. We've actually to your point that you already asked about the county and FDOT on those between uh Patricia and myself, we've reached out to the county already to at least start on some of the looking at some of the solutions because they they do take a long time. For example, one of
them is can we improve the crossing on 80th from the city by adding a right turn lane. What can we do on 62nd for that crossing? So that's what the study is. is the great study is looking at all those intersections. Uh they're going to be doing the the study which is great because they have a lot of information already. So that will help us come up
with solutions that you already said it and you know the answer FDOT the county and then also some of our own solutions where we can control some of that. Some of it can get complicated. It might be rightway acquisition. The other part of that which we've started discussions and we need to understand more. I talked
about it briefly. I know maybe a meeting or two ago was um the the lighting the signalization which is not something that we control it's the county but that's part of the conversation as to you know the impacts on that crossing but that's what the rate study is
>> so commissioner if I remember this goes this goes back even when the pedestrian bridge was canceled >> that the desire was to uh put more emphasis on looking at adgrade solutions and making multiple crossings safer instead of focusing on one bridge and
that's where the that's the genesis of the conversation of at grade uh study. So this is u these lo there are locations that are more than the original conversation because of additional issues of you know the right turn or the left turn on the Taco Bell
things like that but that was a genesis the >> well I mean if we're going to add to that then you know we we have with the initial genesis that we had um we we've had developers that are doing a lot of the work as well right so we have
Avalon phase 2 uh we have sunset place that we can Incorporating some of these things like how do we start integrate how do we start integrating at great study uh how do we integrate the development and traffic studies and the implementation from developers all in that same region so we can combine
forces and just have a great execution plan and in in the not so distant future. So we did uh the Avalon 2 uh that desire was yeah that was shared with them originally their interest was to to put the crosswalk on the south
side uh that there was an interest on on our team side uh that it would be on the north side and through that dialogue uh that's why they come back with that uh crosswalk on the north side of that corner right where the Einstein bagels >> so that coordination was done with them obviously uh Sunset Place is in a
different timeline of their project anything that's red road related it. That would be a relevant conversation. So, we did address 73rd Street through the Avalon Bay 2 project. >> Good. And so, last question. So, if we're going to go ahead and consider this uh grade study, that's the next
study that we need to consider, how long would that take to implement due and get ready to submit as an overall plan? And is this something that we need to start considering for our C CIP budget for next year, the year after that? what
what integrations with when we have grants and working with FDOT with any contributions from them like what is the holistic plan that we can kind of start >> yeah the um the grant would fund the study they've given us a proposal a while back so the grant would fund the
study uh what one of the things we did manager uh spurned us to go ahead and start gathering the data because of the delay so that you know because in the summer you don't gather the traffic uh counts so we went ahead and they're going to go ahead and get the traffic counts ahead of time so we can not have
to wait till uh the fall to start uh some of the work once that grant comes in. But it's probably going to be somewhere just because we started it. It'll be about a less a year from now because we we're getting the counts now. So that'll help uh probably for 2728
unfortunately. But like I mentioned earlier, we're already looking at some of the solutions on 62 and on on 80th uh to see if we get other projects in there because it's not like we don't know that certain things need to be improved. So I think we'll be doing a little bit of
that, you know, at the same time. A little bit of both at the same time. That's for the that's for the US one. There's other a bunch of other projects in here that we could also implement. Vice Mayor Corey, I can't see you, but do you have any questions or comments for the team here? >> No. U maybe just a comment. Thank you
for the presentation. I know uh um again, these studies, they do have to lead to action if we were going to plan it out. I think uh trying to put as many of those that are within the city's jurisdiction on the next uh budget just
because we all know we'll be able to execute those faster. residents are always asking us to improve these conditions, but it's going to get even more challenging as we add density to the city. So, every year we go by uh uh you know, we risk more of these
incidents occurring. So, I think uh like I said, just as a recommendation would be to uh put as many of these projects uh that have city-based jurisdiction for next year and then start working on the rest of them. But obviously the funds won't go out until we get cooperation
with the county and FDOT. >> Thank you. Okay, we're headed back to Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Sorry, just I I agree with everything. I think Commissioner Guy made great points and I agree with what he said. I just going a
little further. We do the study. We do the great study. We do we get the grants. We have all this money. What scares me because you know we've been through it or not scares me but we're going to put all this time where Patricia is going to be working. You're going to be working. Stanton is going to be working.
Do we reach a point where the county which we have experienced says h well no you can't do that. >> Um I don't know. It's presumptive. I think uh >> or or or the fact that these are already
locations that have been analyzed, have been identified, we have the funds. Do are we allowed to proceed to do the implementation or are we still going to be at the beck and call of the county?
>> Traffic control, you need approval, especially, you know, with the timing of US1 and and the conditions. Yes, you're going to need approval from both jurisdictions. >> I I I think Commissioner >> Well, not just you as one, the whole the whole project. >> I just want to put emphasis on that. The difference is this is a datadriven
analysis that that is already contemplating, you know, some of what supports the implementation, right? And so the difference is that that sometimes going to with an ask may not be supported necessarily by by the data that that uh meets their traffic
management. So I this is a different approach obviously. So it'll be more datadriven and as the consultant mentioned you know some of these things may have already focused to argue um you know what what is needed based on the analytics. >> Okay hopefully I
>> y >> hopefully we can get it all done. >> Okay. Thank you. I have one question slashc comment. Everything that is on that list that was popped up before are essentially main roads. If we hear the majority of the
feedback though from our residents, they're usually secondary roads. And I know that if I understand what you said, we're trying to kind of take a topdown approach, but it seems like we're, you know, US1 is humongous. You know, you you're we're looking at,
you know, Bird Road humongous, Miller humongous, US1 humongous. And oh, this is going to sound terrible. Um, they're not our roads. >> We don't control them. So, we're working for somebody else. We're trying to fix
US1. Guess what? US1 is not ours. And so, while we look at this list, and this list is fantastic, as a resident, I look at that list and I go, what have you done for me lately? The answer is zero. Zero. Because US1
doesn't belong to South Miami, but you want South Miami to do the work, get the money, put in money, I'm sure, because that's always the case. Nobody's saying, "Let me just give you everything. You take care of it, but I'll give you everything." I've never seen that as long as I've been sitting here so far.
So, my question is, where are the priorities for our residents? Are we handling those separately? Like, is there a separate pot of money for that? So, so what I would say is that um the data doesn't lie. You know, this approach is really
providing where the problem really is. At the end of the day, this is not necessarily about a volume of cars is about those that result in serious, you know, fatalities and or serious injuries. And the fact remains that those roads, whether they're arterial or
not, are the ones where, you know, as you said, 10% of the roads are because those accidents are not necessarily occurring in the interior roads, right? the data just doesn't support it. It doesn't mean we're going to ignore, right? The resident says cars, we have too many cars on our street, but at the end of the day, when you look at the
data for fatalities and serious injuries, there are limited roads where this is occurring. And so, and so the program is trying to make a huge dent on reducing fatalities and and road raj injuries. So, obviously, the strategy is that you would apply your dollars to
where the data is taking you, meaning this is where it's happening. putting money over there where nobody has died or hurt been hurt may seem a little bit counterintuitive when you have this road over here and and that's where you have the so you know it doesn't satisfy the perception of a problem for a resident
they're still going to live with that perception the next day so yes there could be traffic calming initiatives that we do this program specifically is to reduce fatalities and injuries and the data is telling us where that's happening >> okay so then essentially these are two different things then that we're talking
about this program for like people dying and running over pedestrians and that kind of stuff and then another program that would >> perception of a problem. >> Thank you. >> Perception of a problem that that is real for that resident because a certain amount of cars are going by that street.
It just hasn't resulted in serious injurous fatality. Somebody say well you want to wait till it happens. That argument is could be said in any who road in in USA right I mean I've lived this this issue my entire life. So fully understand the the reality of a a resident in an interior road and their
experience. Um this program is very analytical as to where the problem is. So you can put your dollars to work so you have the greatest reduction in fatalities and injuries. I mean that's that's just at the end of the day, right? If I boil it down, uh that doesn't mean that the interior roads are going to be ignored, but there
certainly, you know, that's not where some of these serious things are occurring. I would just add to that just looking at the numbers of the list of three tiers that are here there's 27 projects 10 are city only of the 27 >> 10 are city only projects the other ones are county city overlap uh so we'll have
to work through those and we put two issues together here we put the study for safety and we talked about US1 because there's a lot of overlap >> so to to take your concept further what we have done is divide the city in zones and I want to focus from a traffic management plan so that we're not doing the oneoff because all we do is push
traffic to the next street. >> Exactly. >> And so we have divided the city in zones to conduct traffic studies that that generate, you know, that are related to that ecosystem within that zone. Uh and the first step towards that is getting traffic counts because you got to support it with traffic counts that'll
lead to a traffic study. Those are, you know, some the to deal with some of the interior cut through traffic, you know, volume, maybe some excessive speed, and those will, you know, at some point generate some um uh uh implementation of traffic calming. Um so we're not
necessarily going to wait 10 years till we finish this one and then focus on that. So we have two a dual track approach with traffic studies u that encompass areas outside of these roads. >> Thank you. All righty. Are we ready to call this
one? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I'll move the motion. >> Thank you. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> Well, there we go. Okay. Well, Commissioner Cayabu. >> So, we've got a motion and a second. Can we please call the role? >> Yes. Commissioner Cay? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez? >> Yes.
>> Commissioner Bonish? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cory? >> Yes. >> And passes 40. >> Okay. Do we have any preference on how we want to hit the rest of them or do I just go straight down the line? >> We just have one resolution. >> I'm sorry. >> We just have one resolution left.
>> Okay. Is that number eight? >> Yes. >> All right. Let's read number eight, please. >> Item eight, a resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida approving the second renewal amendment to the professional services agreement with New Hope Corpse, Inc. for unhoused outreach support program
services in amount not to exceed $30,76.80 authorizing the city manager to enter enter into the second renewal amendment for such services. >> Do we have any discussion on this? Anyone need to say anything or are we
good to vote? >> Brian has >> Yeah. >> Okay. Sorry Brian, I covered you with my computer. If I could just say I wanted to thank the commission for uh initiating this last year. In the last two um bianual
census counts we've had there have been fewer than than three um people unhoused uh uh chronically homeless. Uh so I definitely appreciate your efforts. Last year when I started here five years ago that number was 15.
um the problem will only increase as we attract more people to the city. So I think these services will continue to bear fruit. So thank you. >> Thank you very much for spearheading this. >> Okay. Are we ready? >> He should move it.
>> Yes. We have someone that will move this. Would you like to move it for us? >> Yes, please. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> I move the motion. >> Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. Can we please call the role? >> Yes. Commissioner Cay. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bonish,
>> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cory, >> yes. >> Item passes 4. >> Okay. Am I right in thinking we have M124, N1, and number 13? >> We have the minutes, the city manager report, and
>> Oh, yeah. No, I'm about like other than that. >> Oh, yes. >> Yes. >> 13 was deferred. >> No, 12 and 14. Okay. >> Sorry, >> Madam Commissioner. We for M4, we have someone in the audience that's left.
That's probably the only Okay. >> one. Maybe we should take that. >> Let's tackle that. >> M4. Commissioner Rodriguez, green task force purpose and usage. >> All right. Thank you. So on this one, I had a meeting with a couple of the green
task force um members and their their feeling is that they are not really being used for what the green task force is used for. Um
pretty much the green task force is um consists of seven members. I mean it's a it's too too late to read the but so what are their suggestions are if if the kind of like what we did with the historical board where the we
we're allowing them to review certain items because you know it just um pertains to it the speaking with uh it was Sally and Helen you know they the some of the buildings that are going up with the trees around
I mean, the green task force is probably best suited to identify what trees, you know, are should go there. Um, or at least review it and give their recommendation to us as far as what um u
you know, landscape um the sustainability, all of it. Just that if if we're not going to use them, then why have the board basically is Commissioner Caya, would you like to say anything on that?
>> Yeah, look, so um I've spoken and Noah, please come up whenever you get a chance just to give us your feedback. You've been on the board for a while. You're not a resident, but it feels like you are a resident. You you love the city of South Miami, but I've been to a couple of the meetings with null and the rest
of the team. Um I think we can do a better job of using our boards. I'm not necessarily going to say that they need to pick trees, but I'm not picking up. >> I know that's what you said. I know what you meant. But um what we need to do is like we identify and I think we've done that. You know, I think that we have a
landscape plan that we've developed. I think that got presented to you, a tree ordinance that we guys have been working on that we've been legislatively trying to figure out how to implement it. Um we've had uh design requirements that we've had from a tree perspective. Um a streetscape plan that's coming down the
pipeline that we want you guys to review. I think the idea and the in and the places that we need to start doing that and now we have a liaison that's going to be joining the meeting as well from the city. I think we're going to improve it so we could get more feedback. Um I think systematically the board needs to understand what's coming
down the pipeline, how much time they can and effort they can put on it uh and to give us that feedback in a in a good reliable time. Right? I mean not not nothing against the the the board but the tree ordinance took a while, right? It took from beginning to end it took a while and that's because it's just a leg
legislative change. But things have progressed so fast lately with the landscape plan or the streetscapes plans that that we we kind of need that a little bit faster and a little bit more progress. But we love the the second eyes from the community and that's what
you guys represent. I don't know though what you think or like what else can we do to work better together the organization and the and the and the board the commission and staff in general. >> Okay. Cleveland 5990 Southwest 50th
Street and I also have 5994 south of 50th Street which is in South Miami. So >> I am a South Miami. >> See you guys that's the reason that South Miami is active. There's one house that is and one south that is in South Miami. Sorry. >> Yeah, I'm both. >> And just for the record, you want to be part of South Miami and the other house.
>> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Um yeah. So I think one of the first things we want to think about is when we say green task force is this are we just talking about trees? Should it be the tree task force or is this is this term green intended to be looking at the
environmental impact on all sorts of decisions that the city works with? >> And so you know when you start talking about what's what's the role what's the role here? Are we just going to be a landscape committee? I don't know. You tell me. No, the idea is that we do a
resiliency plan, something green that the green is incorporating everything, right? So, originally you guys worked on the the solar panel initiative back in the days with Phil Stoddard, right? >> Um, right now, SAM is working on the director, sorry, director Cabera is
working on the new initiative that we're trying to replace and and better the solar power initiative with what we're trying to do with the resiliency plan. >> Yeah. And the co and the cool roof. I mean, it's all all sort of things, >> right? So, and you guys have reviewed that, correct? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, but we are we are kind of working
>> but I just I just wanted to I don't I don't want to put us in this box where all we're going to do is look at >> I agree with you. You know, I mean that's that's what we've been working on. Great. >> I agree. >> But I I I see there's a lot of needs to work on sustainability mitigation projects and you know to have some people that are focused on that I think
is really helpful to the city. >> What can we do to improve it in your in your opinion? >> Um probably need to be so something find out things at the very end when they come on the docket. So if you're looking for information to help, we're a resource to be there to help you. And so
um you know to say here we finished like is that good or not? That that doesn't seem to meet a very good use of our of our resources. >> I I agree with you and I'm I'm sorry I mentioned the trees because it was just one aspect of it. Like when a new project comes up, you know, it's just do
we have enough tree coverage? It's a as a matter of the the green task force just advising and recommending look we we don't feel that there's enough coverage. We should keep the shade trees on 57th court that are existing because they're good things like recommendations
like that. On the other hand, I know you know uh you know a lot about composting. I know there's been talks about composting and starting that program and and all that. Those are things that that I think that the green task force can can take on. And you know, we had u our
our our even our parks plan. I I I believe that's something that you guys can review and give recommendations because ultimately a lot of the people that sit on this board have a lot of knowledge on not just trees but the environment. So that's what the purpose
of me bringing this up was how can we better use the green task force because right now they just feel like why are we in existence is kind of the truth. So that's why I brought it up is what do we feel should we can do and again maybe
maybe go back and talk to the rest of the board members and put together a list or or or something where we can say you can bring back to the commission saying look these are things we would like to do and we think that the board can do as an asset to to the commission
to give recommendations and then then we can assess that and and and and move forward. I think would I don't what do what do you think? >> Right. I have I have one suggestion here with the uh road studies that you're looking at anyway. Um
if if the if the ultimate goal is really to save lives and I think you you really need to think out of the box on this because um has anybody been to London recently? You know what the speed limit is over there?
>> I have no idea. whole city. It's 20 miles an hour. >> They also have camera reforce. Anybody been to Paris? >> You know what the speed limit is there? 20 miles an hour. How about Rome? 20
miles an hour. You know why? Because the best way to save lives is to slow people down. And all the projects you're talking about here are great projects. I don't have a problem with any of them, but they're going to take a long time and a lot of money to implement. You change
the speed limit, it becomes an enforcement issue for the police because people aren't going to like it. But I'll also tell you, and this is data driven, if you're at an intersection, it takes you more than two stop lightss to get through an intersection. The this the
speed limit doesn't matter because you're all you're doing is stopping and starting, stopping and starting. you look at the average throughput speed, that's going to be what can will determine the maximum speed limit that that road can handle. And I say that as a cyclist, I've got to 100,000 miles of
commuting on the streets, not on bike lanes, but on the streets because that's where went to work. So there would be plenty of times when I would leave my house and I'd see one of my co-workers on the street. By the time we got to work, we were there at the same time. So
the speed limit only matters on US1. That's going to be a problem. I don't know what to do, but people aren't going to like it. But all I'm saying is thinking outside of the box. I know you're going to walk away and say, "I'm glad that guy sat down." But thinking outside of the box is to realize that
there's a lot of solutions and some of them are very simple. This is retraining our brain. But if London and Paris can do it, why can't we? >> That's all. Let's let's give Vice Mayor Corey a moment to speak as well because I know he probably has something to say
with >> You're muted. >> Uh yes, thank you. So I did also have a meeting with uh Sally Phillips and um I thought uh you know based on our conversation
some of the challenges that they have is that they meet once a month. So having them be a part of, you know, uh, commenting on applications or resolutions, that might be a challenge. But maybe something we could consider is having them, um, comment on ordinances
either through first or second reading. To be honest, everything impacts the environment, no matter what we do, >> um, for the most part. So if it's our legislative policy that's going to be codified, it might be good to just have those options available for them to
comment and then to put in advisory the same way we have advice from other boards if we want to give them some sort of standardization um along with the other initiatives that they're working on. Just a thought.
>> Well, I mean if if if we look Thanks. Sorry. I I see the mayor's not here and I just want to talk. He always talks. Um the the green task force has its duties, right? So it's the development of goals, coordination of green building issues,
supportive integration of green building, energy and water efficient practices in the city, which by the way, that's what we're working on collectively. Right. So this whole plan you want to speak? So, and so the last thing before you speak is develop and oversee green build, which is what we're working on,
and the initiatives to promote the lead certifications and develop a green building compliance guide, which is all the things that we're working on now. So, >> Madam Chair, could I thank you for for reading off that list at the end of the day, you know, the
anor ordinance was passed that said these are the duties, right? And pretty much all six of seven have to do with some sustainability initiative meaning green of which has been part of the sustainable development ordinance. The
other one has to do with the uh the uh the master uh tree plan uh for the city. So those things have you know been part of the issue is are there different opportunities? Is there enough being done in these areas as a city? That's
that's a question. But when you look at the duties, the items that have been brought before, you know, where the landscape master plan, certainly they're working on the tree master plan, the sustainability ordinance fall within the duties of the existing ordinance. If the duties are going to be changed, then that's a policy discussion of how this
group is going to be utilized. But um I I think that the sustainable has been a more recent effort. there probably hasn't been enough of initiatives that fall within these seven duties uh based on the work that we're doing other than the sustainable and the landscape master plan and the tree master plan that um I
I know there's been a drafting of ordinance and it's going between staff and so I would focus on what these duties are which is established by ordinance and and then and then figure out okay I mean are we really going to do some of these things that are on there because it was passed some time ago many years
ago and revisit that and have an understanding that was how they were purposed and and there may not be enough initiatives within that and that's that's what's driving a little bit of okay there's a void maybe there's not enough to do well there's not enough initiatives that fall within these seven
right so um I I would suggest that to to have a more concentrated effort as to what really is you know and it's been quite a while so it it behooves everybody to take a look at how they were formed and for what purpose and what the duties are and just revisit that role
Okay, let's have our director speak and then I I want to make some comments as well. >> I just wanted to give you some additional information um with what the manager just added is that we did take the sustainability ordinance to the green task force. We take the landscape master plan to the green task force. We
actually had the consultants present to them. Um, so we also had public works present to the green task force and to listen to the green task force's concerns about um, you know, what's going on with our parks. I believe parks was also there. I don't know if you
remember, Alex, but they talked about the composting, what's going on in Pinerest. Uh, the public works department has a composting initiative. So, I mean, we brought what staff has initiated to the green task force. I don't know if um it was a requirement,
but we did go through the green task force for all of those. I don't know if it's that they want to actually for us to implement maybe if you have initiatives for us to look at then that's different because I don't think we've had that uh other than the tree
the tree removal I mean the tree uh ordinance. So, and that we've sent to the landscaping master plan consultants so that they make sure that they put that and that it's coordinated with the landscaping master plan. They're actually going through right now going through the code to make sure that all
of it is consistent. So, um I just don't want it to seem as that, you know, staff hasn't been bringing things to the green task force. We have we just don't have something every month that's, you know, initiative that's, you know, brand new and shiny and and exciting.
>> Yeah. and and I also met with um our former mayor Phillips and my my commentary to her was probably different than your conversation with her. I think that there are certain, you know, groups
like, you know, DRB planning, whatever. We have a million of them on the books. And as a matter of fact, when I first came on board, I said, "We should clean this out. Get rid of some. There's some that haven't had people for 20 years. There's some that meet that there's
nothing to do." And I think that when the green task force was put into play, it might have had, if you look at exactly what what the city manager just said, it might have had a bunch of different things to do. I don't think
that's the case right now or even in the near future because we've taken those initiatives and we've actually done them all. >> So I say if you know Maybe instead of having them meet every month to, you
know, not move things forward, maybe it's on an as needed basis or a quarterly meeting. And if they need more, then they call those meetings. I I hate to think that we're wasting people's time. And I think that that's one thing that you
as a group need to look at and say, "Hey, you know what? Do we need to meet every month? Can we make it quarterly unless it's needed for something else? I think sometimes we do a great job of reaching out to our
to our teams. I think sometimes we do a good job and sometimes we maybe don't do such a great job. But we have to be critical when we are talking about these different groups and say is this actually serving what the city needs
right now and that might not be a comfortable conversation but it's a conversation that I think has to happen. >> I can share one item that we're working on that will go through through the green task force but we're doing the research right now putting together which is composting and we are working
with a particular vendor on how the program would work. we have a proposal. So, we're fine-tuning that to kind of get an idea of, you know, what are the options on how they would deliver something like that. That would go to the green task force uh to to have their views and eyes on it and give their
opinion on a program like that because there's different options to roll that out. Um so, that's something that we're working on that will make it to the green task force. Can't think there may be some other initiatives that I can think of off top of my head that we would, but there may not be enough of these things going on and that this
where you have these voids of, you know, hey, what are we're here to help and there's not enough coming our way. So, >> well, I the other initiative, sorry, commissioner, the the other initiative that I thought about was the streetscape plan where we just saw the latest study from the streetscape plan that we have a
lot of trees that are either in bad shape, need to be removed, or are in so so shape that we should remove. Um, and also to just have community input on, you know, if uh I forgot the guy's name, but the guy uh that comes here for the
trees all the time, Jason, and he has a good understanding of what we're trying to do and, you know, just to get that feedback whether we all accept it or not, like at least we have the as much feedback as we can, make a decision and move forward. Um, that that's what I see these type of boards for. uh you know
more of a specialized board that has an understanding of trees and green energy and do research. I know null does research all the time and is constantly going to the county and and an advocate for a lot of green initiatives throughout the county. So I want to have
those ears and I want to have those eyes there. Um, so I think it's important whether whether they meet once a once a once a week or once a a month like that's something we need to discuss and you know all the initiatives that we want to go put into that we should discuss that in a as as a need basis.
>> Um, commission I I I think the the manager and and and and commissioner Bonich put it perfectly. We've back when this was done, which was like the the manager said, this was put together a long time
ago. All the initiatives that are on this paper of what they're responsible for have >> are basically about to be completed. >> Yep. >> Right. So that leaves you with nothing really to do. So I think maybe a way of moving forward is because we all feel
that we can use you and we we we want to hear your recommendations is is set new initi future initiatives for the board and change you know change the these initi because they're done the sustainability the tree
ordinance all everything you were required to do when this board was set up it has been done >> which so >> more power to you. >> Yeah. Um so yeah it the options are have have a difficult conversation and say do
we need this board anymore or maybe the board comes to us uh the green task force comes to us and and says look these are initiatives that we would love to work on and moving forward towards the uh the future you know with the growth of the city the growth of you
know the streetscaping like commissioner Kaya said and all that I think you guys would know more of what or I think yeah I I think you guys would know more of what what's important and what's coming to work on for the city and then provide
that to us and then possibly change what the duties are of the of the task force. >> What do you think? >> Okay. >> Okay. So, can we kind of close this one out because we still have to do all the other stuff.
>> Okay. So, I think it's safe to say in the end of this discussion, we want them to maybe Yeah. >> say, "Hey, What do we see coming down the pike for new initiatives? >> Like set up what initiatives you feel are are important to work on for the city for for everything that's coming
down the pipeline for the next few years >> and then maybe as a group decide do you want to meet do you still want to meet monthly? Do you want to meet quarterly? Do you want to meet as needed? So that >> can I can I make another recommendation? Our job is to do legislative changes. So, what I would recommend is let's go look at the duties that are currently in
the legis in our legislative uh for the green task force and go modify that so we can add those specific things of duties and then we can re reconvene and start implementing that. >> Well, that's the issue that they're done like pretty much completed all of them. >> No, that's what I'm saying. So, anything that's new that's coming that we added
to the >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100% 100%. Okay. >> Perfect. All right. >> All righty. So, now we have M1 and M2. I imagine that is you Alex. >> Yes. >> Hello. >> M1. >> Okay. M1
>> report on green waste diversion pilot program. >> Yes. So over the we have a little presentation here just to guide the discussion on M1 really short three slides. Uh but just to set this up uh over the last year we've talked about
solid waste a lot. And uh one of the topics that we always say when we talk about solid waste is cost containment. Uh there's an option available to us now um that's been available quite honestly which is garbage has to stay in the county system as you probably recall. Uh
however green waste trash waste can go outside of the county system uh and that can be taken to a private landfill. So, um there's an opportunity with uh the landfill in in Medley that's operated by
um uh waste management. They have lower rates. So, we've been looking at this is very preliminary. Uh but we've been looking at potentially um doing a partnership, not not a partnership, a pilot program to uh go there. And wait a
minute, hold on a minute. This is two. That's two. Wrong one. M1. M1 sorry that as the the green slide that there you go that's the one okay so uh this is the one green and clean so this
is an opportunity to diverse uh to uh divert the green waste so what we've been looking at is going to medley which it is a longer distance however because of the weight times you can go here to the next slide because of the weight times um it gives us the opportunity to
actually save some money if we if we go there. So, you see there uh roughly $126,000 in savings and basically if we go to Medley, we don't have the transfer fee. There's a rate that's a potential rate. We have to negotiate something, right? It's as low as $62 uh for going
there versus what we pay the county which is $76. Uh so, we have that opportunity. Um, if we were to go to Medley, uh, here you have, uh, just a very high overview of the savings, the
additional cost in red of driving there, which would be the cost of the vehicles, gas, additional um, you know, cost in our operations for for fleet maintenance. But overall, there could be a potential savings. Again, very preliminary. The difficult part of this
particular program is the next one, right, is separating and getting our residents to actually participate. So, John and I have been talking about it different ways of doing it. Carl Gables uh has a similar program. Uh, you know, I think it's it's pretty
self-explanatory there for us, but we've listed what the different um uh requirements are for green waste and for what's not green waste. There's the we we're going to pilot this. We're going to go through 60 days or so. That's what
we recommend is go through and actually pilot it. Uh we're not going to be ticketing people. Uh but it would be an education process to let people know that, you know, they should be helping us separate the waste. We would go through and separate items beforehand. Certain things will still go to the land
the sorry the transfer station right here with the gables and other things we would take up to Medley and see if we have that actual savings if the drive time even though it's a lot further the wait time here it's only a 20-minute difference to go up to Medley currently and I've talked about this in different
solid waste presentations that we've had our our our crews finish pretty early based on the the routes that they run so they have the time in the day to to actually do this it's not like it's going to you you know, eat too much into uh what they do. So, there's that that
possibility exists. This is a little outline of what we would do. We got to study obviously the fuel metrics, make sure that makes sense, the turnaround time uh and also um you know verify uh you know that the savings are actually there. This is very this is a paper
exercise at this point. It's not an actual exercise uh that we've done and made these runs. And then the big focus here is the ability to separate the waste and making sure that that works and it doesn't become so timeconuming and increase the cost of this program.
So that's something that we wanted to throw out. You know, potential of even if if we're a little bit off $100,000 savings, which is nothing to, you know, sneeze at. So that was the conversation that we wanted to have on this. Mr. Manager, I don't know if you wanted to add to that at all. >> Yeah, thank you. U so obviously this is
very centric on on cost containment. I mean, from a long-term standpoint, talking about the green task force and green initiatives, I mean, our our our idea, and we've had preliminary conversations would be to find an alternative that that better purposes, you know, our green waste other than
landfields, right? U but for the near term to to take a look at this diversion uh because it's it's could be a substantial savings and there are operational uh sort of you know consumer behavior habits how we may have to do things in our operations and how we pick
up stuff. So there's an adjustment. So this binds us to nothing other than we wanted to go out and and and test it out and just kind of really get a sense of uh what the true operational cost is and time and queuing at the at the site. So, um, something that we were going to pursue, but we wanted to share, you
know, this this information with you and certainly get any feedback from you, >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Um, to the director and and the city, I'm just curious and I I I meant to ask you this, I forgot. Um, how are we going
to relay this message to do you have a a campaign that's going to relay this message to the residents? Yeah, at at first um you know they they've talked a little bit about we may just adjust our operations on our side as a as a first pass like uh we may you know talking to
Alex about it and and and John they've been talking maybe we go ahead remove items that shouldn't be within that you know usually those are lesser items because the majority is is the the clippings and the cutings um and so that we would do that ahead of and then come back with a and then come up with the
crane and pick up um At some point there may be a different approach that yes it would be sort of a campaign educational if we need to change behavior then there will be a messaging component at first I think maybe we may just try and uh sort through uh what's there remove it
through a first pass and then the the crane comes behind is a is something that we've discussed and I know John and Alex have been talking about. So more more to come on that but wherever we need to change consumer behavior we will at this point I think we want to limit that because we really want to get a
sense this is even >> you know the paper holds what it holds right and the research is good but what's really going to be the experience when we got to drive over there our operational expense and so forth. >> Commissioner Ka do you have anything? >> Yeah >> I have a couple quick questions. Um, how
many tons of green waste do we have right now on a yearly basis? Probably >> it's about 60% of the system, 7,000 of our 11,000 tons. >> 7,000 >> 6,000 let's say of the 11. >> Have we have we did we ever look into
that same system that Coral Gables was looking into for in you know their own particular system where we can do waste in our in our own land. We we haven't yet. The county is talking about We haven't yet. We're waiting to see what they do and learn from that. And the county is also piloting it and they want
us to be part of that. Having some meetings upcoming soon with them. >> So, the Gables is going to pilot it. >> I I haven't checked back on what what they've done, but the county is is currently piloting it. >> Commissioner, are you talking about um >> the contain the burn box is called?
Yeah. And that's what they want to do at the site of which they were trying to limit the extension of the lease to the county >> and and maybe to a year and that would be the site that they would build out to to do that and they shared that information. Uh could we do something like that? Yes, certainly that that's in
the cards and that was my comment before that that's the ultimate goal to find a different means of disposing of this instead of landfill. >> No. And and by the way I'm a big fan of piloting everything whether we you know fail or succeed. We don't know until we know. So, >> I'm I'm totally for this, by the way,
100%. Um, there is a lot of of energy savings, I mean, weight savings that we can actually go through. We if we continue the process and learn and we can do it ourselves. I mean, if we spend a half a million dollars to go get a box that we can go in three year, I mean, 18 months, sorry, 18 months, we
can we can we can, you know, recuperate that money. That's a no-brainer, but I'm with you. >> Okay. Vice Mayor Corey, anything? >> Yeah, just that I I appreciate you guys piloting this and continue to work on this and compost and different ideas as
well. Like Commissioner Cay stated, I think we have to get very creative to keep our waste cost down and efficiency up because both of those are are kind of out of whack now on the cost and efficiency side. >> Yeah, thank you. And so for me, I only
have one comment. I Well, first I think it's a great idea. Um, the thing I'm gonna find very interesting for us as residents is you can put the pieces of the tree, but you can't put the stump. Like, who's going to think, "Oh, let me separate that stump out from the rest of
the tree." So, I think that that we're going to have our work cut out for us in in separating that because you cut the tree and you put the tree. >> Yeah. It wouldn't necessarily be the stump, but it would be like, I don't know, bookshelf, right? No, but it said in his slide it says the stump can't go.
>> Well, some pieces are might be too big, but you could cut them down, remove them. We could still take those to the dump. So, like you like was said, it's going to be a learning process. >> We'll go through and see how practical it is. And then at some point, yes, there's a education campaign. >> Awesome. Okay. M2.
>> M2. So, >> and we better hurry up you guys. We got M2 is >> uh M2 is us getting back to you from the February 17th meeting when the commission changed uh the uh ordinance for the properties that we serve for
garbage. This was the discussion remember Banyans and Miller in ' 67. Uh so you asked a couple of questions there. Here it is. Uh February 17th was that meeting. Um so the residential eligibility changed
from we serviced up to uh four properties with three units. We you you all made the decision to go to 20 uh units uh that we would service. So that's something that we're going to roll out as we had said over the course of the year. Uh so the other question that you had, you had two questions at this meeting. One was what would it cost
to go uh service between 21 and 50? Uh I'm going to talk about that. And the other question is for the attorneys. You talked about grandfathering, the possibility of Banyons and Miller and 67. Yes. So, here quickly, uh, those legacy properties, Miller and 67, uh, we
service them today. Doesn't cost us additional money to service them. Uh, John and the crews, uh, did a couple of test runs just to segregate what we pick up for Miller and 67. Works out to about $5,000 a year. What it cost us to for the the fees. It's already part of the
system, right? It's a sunk cost almost. the the people are there, the trucks are there, the fuel is there. But if you looked specifically at the transfer and tipping, uh about $5,000. So that was on the on the cost side for that. If you look at taking in all of
the 21 to 50 uh unit properties, and it's in your report there uh in, you know, greater detail, uh you have here what the cost would be there. It's pretty significant. You have the one-time cost of 473,000. That's for the equipment and for the
containers that we would have to buy. And then you have the recurring cost roughly. Again, these are rough estimates, but nonetheless, based on real numbers, you have about $289,000 uh for your recurring costs between
personnel, fuel, uh additional fees that we would pay uh to the county on tipping and disposal uh and motorpool services, which is, you know, an estimate. So, we wanted to provide you that information, and I know that uh the attorneys can talk further about the uh grandfathering
if needed. Can we hear from you guys before we comment, please? >> Sure. Sure. >> Yeah. I think we have a rational basis and justification for grandfathering those two properties, Banyan and Miller 67. Banyons has been serviced by the
city since 1979. Miller 67 since 1973. So based on that historical service, longevity, their legacy properties, we feel that you can support the grandfathering of those two sites. >> Great. >> Perfect. Let's roll it backwards this
time and start with Vice Mayor. >> One more thing if I may. Yeah, we would specify the cutoff date would be 1979 >> and those are the only two properties that we found that would qualify. >> Perfect. >> Vice Mayor Corey, you want to take the first bite at this one?
>> No, I think that that's a a I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I think there's an established precedent for serving the I don't even think there's residents around that were here before we were serving the property that that that still lives there. But yeah,
>> thank you. Commissioner Gaia, anything? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay. Commissioner Rodriguez, >> so question. So, now that we um have established that they we can grandfather those two properties because I I feel the 21 to 50 we always said I don't
think anybody here was a >> was for that. >> I don't think was >> Yeah, we were. >> No, that was just to answer the question of the cost. That was it. >> Yeah, we knew it was not not doable. So, now that we have that, are I guess you draw the ordinance and then bring it to us for first reading? >> Yeah, it'll have to be an ordinance
>> and it would be based on that 1979 date. >> Okay. >> Right. Good. >> Perfect. >> We're done. >> We are done with that. We're not done with the meeting. >> The manager's report. >> Oh, we still have all of that good stuff. >> I I'd be happy to, in the interest of
time, and letting the the the written report stand on its own. >> Thank you. Uh, city attorney's report. >> We're good. Okay. So, then we just have the approval of the minutes. If someone can move that, please.
>> I'll move the motion. Do I have >> Oh, he beat you. >> Okay. We We've got a motion and a second. Can we please Do we need the role for that? >> Yes. Commissioner Cay? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bonish? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey?
>> Yes. >> Okay. Is there anything that I've missed? >> Let me just read the board member. >> Okay. Irma Becker has been appointed by Mayor Fernandez to the unique abilities board as per city charter for a two-year term
ending May 19, 2028. >> Perfect. And with that, oh >> one, I just have an announcement. Um, Fredo, so I was told by uh the Florida Beverage Association that we got $10,000
granted to us for the recycling program in our parks. So that's awesome. >> Wow. >> So that'll bring in the recycle bins and all that. >> Awesome. >> Okay. And we're starting with South Miami Park.
>> Awesome. Thank you guys. >> Awesome. Well, and with that we're journ Good night, Brian. >> Good night. the same. >> No, there's no