Oh my god. >> Good evening everyone. Please be seated. I will now call to order the City of South Miami Commission meeting for Tuesday, October 7th, 2025. The time is 7 p.m. Uh, if you could please silence or turn off your cell phones, we would
be grateful. Uh, Madame Clerk, please call the role. >> Yes. Mayor Fernandez, >> present. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> present. Commissioner Rodriguez >> here. >> Commissioner Bon >> here. >> Commissioner Cay >> here. >> We have a quorum. >> Thank you, madam clerk. Please stand for a brief prayer.
>> Lord, fill my heart with your peace today. May your peace rule within my heart, my mind, and my soul. With gratitude and thanksgiving, I rejoice in the joy I can experience through your perfect peace. On the tough days when life is filled with insurmountable
challenges, grant me peace of mind that transcends all understanding. Amen. Thank. If you could please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. And today we've got a special guest, Miss Brook Rodriguez. If you could please come to the microphone.
You want to come up here? >> Do it here. >> Brooke, please lead us in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag to the United States of America for the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, for liberty and
justice for all. >> Excellent job. Thank you. >> Please be seated. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh colleagues, we got a couple of deferral requests as my understanding through council. Uh first off, I'd like
to move to defer item M1 on tonight's agenda. Uh it was mistakenly placed on this agenda as opposed to the 1021 agenda. So I'd ask that one be deferred till 10:21. >> Uh item three regarding the CRA, we'd like to defer that item to again as well
10:21, our next agenda. Uh item eight, uh the parking space removal ordinance. We're still working through some details. Uh I'd like to move it again to 10:21. And lastly, in terms of requests, uh we have a request to defer defer item 10 on
tonight's agenda to December 2nd. And uh Mr. Manager, would you like to make an announcement regarding that item? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, mayor, as um you know that this commission had u provided some direction to myself and
the city attorney uh to pursue uh conversations with the the owner and developer of the site. Um the city attorney myself have have done so. Um right now there's a tenative agreement on a purchase. Um documents are are
being finalized. Uh but there would be a an agreement to purchase a property uh from the developer and uh so therefore I believe Mr. City Tony I think that they had asked for a deferral of their item for 60 days I believe >> for 60 days to allow that process to play out. >> Okay. And the intent would be to bring
back a purchase sale agreement and any required financing on the November 1st of agenda November for our consideration. What would be the timeline for the items? >> Yeah, I I think it's two two readings. Um uh certainly if we can make it on the
21st of October we would but but it it you know there's an appraisal and some documents but it'll take two readings. So maybe October 21 and the first meeting in November or both meetings in November. Right. >> Okay. Understood. Thank you for that clarification and explanation. Uh colleagues, can I get a motion to defer item M1, item three and item 8 to
October 21st and item 10 to December 2nd. Questions? >> Quick quick question. >> Yes, sir. You're recognized. Um why I and I'm sorry I I didn't I didn't know we were doing this so I'm caught a little off guard over why are we deferring uh number three >> number three so I had a meeting yesterday with uh our county
commissioner and there were a couple details uh in the interlocal and plan that she wanted uh addressed and so that'll just give us some time to send it over clean and responsive to her request. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yes ma'am.
>> All right. Can we see what y'all are working on so that we're all along for the ride? >> Yes. So, uh, what we have been working on is was presented, but I would what I think would be best is if the manager can brief everyone on the item individually so you can understand what modifications are going to be
promulgated and brought forward before the next meeting. Okay. >> Okay. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. Further questions? Okay. Okay. So again, just to reiterate the motion to defer item M1 3 and 8 to October 21st and item 10 to December 2nd. Is there a motion?
>> I move the motion. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Uh, Commissioner Bonich, I think you have a question. Maybe. Yes. Take take your time. No, I got to wait because I don't want to vote without you understanding what we're doing. >> No, no, I know. I just does number five
have anything to do with the parking that we're deferring? >> It does. We were we were going to defer the parking, but I I've just gotten informed by council before the start of the meeting that we may have an agreement on it. So, we're going to leave it in the regular order. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. So, again, for everyone in the
audience, item M1 to be deferred to 10:21. Item three, which relates to a possible CRA, to be deferred to October 21st. Item eight, which is a parking space removal ordinance to be deferred to October 21st. And item 10, which
relates to a land use approval for Manor Lane, would also be deferred to December uh second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Madam clerk, if you could call the role, please on the deferrals. >> Yes. Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes.
>> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cory, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. It all passes. >> Okay. With that, our agenda is set for this evening. Let's move on to presentations, madam clerk, if we can. >> Yes. Um, presentation. I have just one
presentation. That's not on the agenda. I don't have her certificate now. It It takes >> Oh, we have a special recognition, huh? >> Special recognition. Her certificate takes like five weeks to come. But Jessica, my deputy city clerk, has been
uh she has obtained her certified municipal clerk certification. A job well done. So I just want to just recognize her for achieving. >> Congratulations, Jessica. And >> yay, Jesse. [Applause]
>> Be beyond beyond the personal matter, congratulations on on your wonderful daughter as well who led us in the pledge this evening. Colleagues, any any comments? >> No, let's take a picture with her. Sure, let's do it. >> For her to get her certified. >> Let's go. >> Come on. Come on. >> We're going to make you come.
>> No, I'm coming tomorrow. [Applause] Are you going? Thank you, Madam Clerk. If you can read E1. >> Oh, no problem. Thank you. I'll read it. No worries. Okay. Today, we have the honor of
recognizing uh the excellence of one of our local uh food and beverage establishments, Hoo. So, if you haven't heard about it, uh you must be sleeping because um it is uh the hottest new restaurant in South Miami. uh not only an incredible menu which I got to enjoy
recently but excellent service and run by a fantastic couple that we're lucky to have here this evening. Uh we wanted to honor them on a recent recognition. So I'll briefly read u the resol the proclamation that we prepared to honor them this evening on on this important
achievement. Uh South Miami is proud to recognize and celebrate the establishment that has that enhance establishments that enhance our city's culinary reputation and bring national acclaim to our community. Reco is a chef-owned intimate restaurant founded in 2024 by chefs Maria Tarisa Gina and
Nicolas Martinez together with Somalier Shannon Gable with a goal of creating a restaurant that is personal and it it very much is that uh and whereas the nameco meaning nook or cranny in Spanish reflects the restaurant's cozy hidden gem character and the founders
themselves designed many of the elements of the interior menu and ambiance and whereas in its first full year of operation Eco attracted national recognition such as Bonapetit's magazine list of 20 best new restaurants in America 2025 being
the only Florida restaurant to make that list and receiving a full feature cover in the October issue. And whereas Ecoessel also received recognition by Timeout as one of America's best new restaurants in 2025 and has been listed in the 2025 Michelin Guide as a
recommended restaurant in South Florida. Whereas through its national recognition, culinary innovation, Hego not only enhances South Miami's reputation as a destination for excellence in dining, but helps uplift the entire region's visibility on the national gastronomic stage. And now
therefore, I, Javier Fernandez as mayor, along with my colleagues, city commissioner and vice mayor Brian Corey, commissioners Bonich, Ga, and Rodriguez do hereby proclaim today, October 7th, 2025 as Reco Day. So if you could please come forward.
We'd love to take a picture and recognize please come forward if you could say a few words and share a little bit about the inspiration beyond what is a mini gastronomic miracle here in South Miami and we're very lucky obviously we're very grateful first for your investment and choosing uh my South
Miami as your home but um love to hear more about you your story and the inspiration behind this fantastic establishment. Um well I guess I am the designated uh speaker I'm recognized at the moment. >> Um we didn't know about the day so
that's very special for us to hear. Uh very special day for us. >> I think uh the national acclaim is always nice. It obviously helps and support. >> Let me ask you to back up and start if you wouldn't mind starting with your name and introducing your team for those who may not know who you are. >> So I'm Maria Teresa. This is my husband
Niko. Uh this is Shannon our sam and this is Sophia our rock. She also works at the restaurant. She's, you know, jack of all trades. Um, I was saying that I guess the national recognition is obviously very nice. It supports the restaurant, but I think even before all of this came our way, we had a very good
circle and a very good community of people in South Miami and Miami, people we know locally that have supported the restaurant. Um, this is obviously, you know, a big blessing and we take it in. But really the people that came at the beginning that lived five, three minutes
away and sort of stumbled upon us and told their neighbors and their friends at work about the restaurant is really what has built the restaurant itself. Um, I don't know if you guys want to say a couple words. I think you guys are all public servants and we see ourselves
very much as a public service of the restaurant. Um, our dishwasher, Jennifer, the other day told me she wanted to open a restaurant, but she wasn't so sure because of all the work that it really took behind the scenes. And I told her one of the things that I have learned is that really when you open a restaurant, you're not working for yourself. You're working for all the
people that now depend on you and all the people that come and support it. And I really do see it in that way. Um, I guess I never get to thank my family publicly for believing in a dream that is now far beyond ourselves, but I'm very lucky that they have helped support it every step of the way and they are
very hardworking and then they see all the hard work that we do and makes me very proud. [Applause] >> Thank you all very much for the recognition. >> Thank you.
>> Our our our distinct honor and pleasure. And I just want to say I mean it really when you go there it's not only it not only lives true to its name but it really you can tell it's a family >> and uh it's certainly certainly a a labor of passion first and foremost and and the results are evident in the food
and in the interactions with all of you when you enjoy that really wonderful place. So congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Let's take a picture. Thank you. >> Yeah, but Yes. Yeah. Oh my god.
We're ready. [Applause] Okay. [Music] >> Uh now hear from a presentation from our federal lobbyist Omar Franco. Mr. Franco, are you online?
>> Yeah, mayor. Okay, we have >> Yeah, Omar, our federal lobbyist from Becker is uh is online and uh just to give you a report and update on some of the the work that he's doing and and the state of Washington. Um, so >> state of the shutdown. >> Yeah, the the lag of progress in the
last seven days since >> Omar, good evening. >> How are you? >> Good, good. Thanks for joining us. We can hear you. >> Okay, perfect. Uh, yeah. No, I think um yeah, we're just uh all here patiently
waiting. I'm uh here on K Street and you know, we've been uh monitoring the situation to see if they can get the shutdown resolved. uh obviously our uh the community project funding that we did through
uh Congresswoman Maria Vita Salazar um that's gone through the process. We should be in great shape there. Uh but now we're really you know trying to get because they need to fix the shutdown and open government before they can resume their regular order on the
appropriations process. Um, I anticipate that, you know, the continuing resolution would probably put it somewhere in November. So, either way, we're going to be back in five weeks to continue to discuss. Uh, but I do know that the House is already looking to start combining three of the bills that
have already passed the the on committee and put those on the floor. Uh, and the Senate is doing their job as well. So, uh, really, uh, you know, I do expect everything, uh, to be hopefully finished and and everything done by, you
know, probably late December um, at this point. Uh, but we just got to get out of this uh, you know, shutdown situation. So, um, you know, that that's it. Uh the projects, by the way, as feedback, uh through the congresswoman's office and the appropriations committee, the
feedback has been fantastic on the projects we've submitted on the septic to sewer. Um so, um you know, thank you for the city for submitting a great project, something that, you know, the committee can get behind. Um and you know obviously a huge importance to the
South Florida community to start you know getting those public sewers and you know improving the water quality down in our South Florida community. So u thank you for that. Um and at that point you know I'll just leave it up for any questions you may have because I mean
obviously it's a it's a little bit uh uh volatile here. So so happy to o open up to the commission to see if you have any questions for me. Colleagues, any questions of Mr. Franco? Nope. And vice mayor? No. No. Mr. Vice
Mayor, Madam Commissioner, no one. Okay. Well, then uh you've been off I mean not on the hot seat at all, Omar. So, thank you for the job well done. We've had uh success last year with um the appropriation on septic tower as a first uh first cut. Looking for some repeat success here and hopefully getting that
basin finalized certainly in the next couple years. So, thank you for all your good work. >> Thank you, Mr. mayor and thank you Mr. uh everybody on the commission. Uh and again uh as Chip knows and Samantha, you know, I'm available for and uh anything that comes up at the federal level.
Happy to help in any way. >> Okay. Thank you so much. Have a good evening. >> Thank you. >> You too. >> Okay. Uh colleagues, uh next up on order of business is the approval of the minutes of uh September 3rd uh for our special meeting, September 3rd for our
regular meeting, uh September 16th for our special meeting and then our regular meeting of September 16th as well. Is there a motion to approve all four meeting minutes? >> I'll move it. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Have a motion and a second. Madam clerk, if you can call the role on the approval of all four minutes.
>> Yes. Um Commissioner Cay. Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cory. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez. >> Yes. >> Minutes pass. Thank you, >> Mr. Manager. Your report, please. >> Good evening. The community center is going to be closed this Friday, October
10th, until 2 p.m. That's to accommodate a crane and two flatbed trucks that are going to be coming for the process of replacing the outside air units. So, small inconvenience for a good reason. Registration is also open in parks for the teen social media marketing class. That's free to South Miami residents
ages 13 to 17. The classes will meet at the Moy building Tuesdays and Thursdays from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. And that program runs October 14th to November 13th. On the event side, tomorrow night, Thursday night, we have Mayor State of the City at South Miami Middle School. Um, this
Saturday, October 11th, we have South Miami Kids Marketplace. that's happening where second Saturdays happens on 58th A between 73rd and 74th where the streets going to be lined with young entrepreneurs selling their products and services and that event is followed by
our first second Saturdays of the season where we're bringing back country night which was very popular the last time around. So this season the events run from 5:30 to 9:30. Then following that October 17th we have Movies at the Park at Marshall Williamson Park. That's another free event with the movie
starting at 7 pm. A big thank you to our teams in community affairs, Sam and Evelyn, as well as parks and public works that took part in the community cleanup on September 20th along with the mayor. It was international coastal cleanup day. So we were one of 68 cleanups that were happening across
Miami Dade County. So many volunteers alone collected 150 pounds of garbage and collectively over 25,000 pounds of garbage was collected throughout Miami Dade County. So, it was a very successful event. The next one will be in January. As an initiative from Commissioner Cay, the city has
officially joined Workforce Miami. This is a countywide initiative that connects residents to jobs, job training, career advancement resources. Um, it's spearheaded by Miami Dade County and it's a one-stop shop. It's a hub where people can find opportunities. So, anybody that's interested in exploring
that can find the link that's published in tonight's manager report. And last but not least, in honor of breast cancer awareness month, the has partnered with 305 Pinkpack. We're inviting everyone to wear pink on Fridays throughout the month and to donate via our Somi cares page. 305 Pinkpack provides
transportation, child care, and more to no cost at women in Miami um who are receiving cancer treatment so that they can focus on healing and spending time with their families. So, anybody that's interested in donating to them can reach out to our city's HR. That's the end of the manager's report. Aside from
congratulations to Jessica on her achievement. Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Deputy Manager. Colleagues, any questions of the manager? >> Okay. Thank you for the report. >> Uh, Mr. City Attorney, you're recognized for your report. >> Thank you, mayor, but we have nothing new to report other than what's on your agenda already.
>> Okay. Any any questions on any matters for the city attorney? None. Okay, we will move on then. So, we will begin public remarks. Uh, I do have a sign-in sheet. If you have not signed up for public remarks but would like to speak, uh please uh ask Brandon or John for a
sheet and we'd like you to register just so we can go through uh that list as efficiently as possible. If you are online and would like to speak during public remarks, uh you can raise your hand. I do want to note because I do see some items on tonight's agenda that are public hearing
items. Uh if you are here for the clinic lease which is item number nine that is a public hearing item. Uh I am going to open up we have to open the p the floor for public remarks. So if you want to save your remarks for when the item is called and I will call that immediately
after uh public remarks close. We'll give you an opportunity to speak concurrently with the item just to kind of save ourselves some time. Uh we also have public hearing items on items four and five. So if you you do have time to speak on those items as well if you're here for those items in the audience. Uh
and lastly item is item six a public hearing item as well. Mr. City attorney. >> Okay. So that is also public hearing item. So if you're here on item six uh which is the sale of 6179 Southwest 62nd Terrace, I just invite you to save your
comments for when item six is called as well. Okay. with that. Uh, first on the list is Victoria Sanders who's registered for the clinic lease. Miss Sanders, would you like to speak now or when item nine is called? Okay, come on forward.
>> Good evening. >> Good evening. I'm Victoria Sanders and I would like to read a letter that I wrote to the council on behalf of item number nine, Dr. Scott.
Dear honorable council members, I am writing to you as a single mother and a lifelong resident of South Miami with deep concern and a heartfelt plea to preserve the South Miami Children's Clinic under the care of Dr. Scott. This
clinic has become a cornerstone in our neighborhood, not only because of the quality of medical care provided, but also because of the profound role it plays in the well-being of families like mine. Dr. Scott provides medical treatment for children who do not have health
insurance, ensuring that no child in our community is turned away from receiving essential care. In times when many families face financial strain, the clinic has been a source of concrete support, offering attentive, timely, and
compassionate care. She is swift in securing appointments, thorough in her followup, and truly invested in the health of every child she serves. Beyond medical care, Dr. Scott extends
her support to meet the broader needs of our community. Every month, she organizes food distributions for our families, creates opportunities for children to grow beyond the doctor's office, and uplifts households in ways that are rarely seen
in a pediatric practice. My family is a direct testimony to the impact of her work. Dr. Scott has gifted both of my children bicycles for holidays. Awarded my three-year-old son, Maurice, a scholarship for swimming lessons with
Iswim Academy. Thank you to Coach Nick and Coach Bella, allowing him to learn a life-saving skill in just one week. She also connected my 12-year-old son, Caleb, to Breakthrough Miami, an
academic enrichment program that has opened doors to exceptional educational opportunities. Through Dr. Scott, he has also participated in cooking classes and local cookoffs led by Top Chefs, nurturing his culinary skills and
confidence. These experiences are shaping his futures in ways I never thought possible. So, Dr. Scott is more than a pediatrician. She's a lifeline for families in South Miami. Her clinic embodies the values of
equity, compassion, and community support. Removing this resource would leave a devastating gap in our neighborhood, particularly for children whose caregivers cannot otherwise afford quality medical care. I urge the council
to recognize the tremendous value of the South Miami Children's Clinic and to take every measure possible to ensure that it remains in our community. The health, growth, and the future of our children depend on it. Thank you for
your time and consideration. >> Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry. >> A single mother of South Miami. >> Victoria, thank you for your comments. >> Thank you. Uh, next on the list is Stephen Pearson. Good evening, sir.
>> Good evening, mayor and commissioners. I'm Stephen Pearson. Um, I was a founding member and past president of the Flowering Tree Society, and I helped in 1992 design and plant Gene Willis
Park. It was the first flowering tree park in Dade County and I know leadership changes but you know at the time we were encouraged to do this project and we were happy to do it to help the city. Um I'd like to come next month and talk to you about a
proposal to uh restore the park that I'm willing to fund personally and get volunteers from both the Flowering Tree Society and Tremendous Miami to help do it. But tonight, I want to talk to you about this proposal that you can move these
trees. These trees are 33 years old. Whoever's telling you they can be moved easily is either doesn't know what they're talking about or just doesn't care. Secondly, you should understand more about what the underlying the former vice mayor and
commissioner Bob Welsh, he understood. He called it right off. It was a fraud. It's a a hole that taxpayer dollars are just going down. If I had a dollar for every pine that's died out there, for every case of faresia that's died, for other
trees that have died as they try to do this, for all the trees they killed after telling us that they would not kill our trees, they got in trouble with derm. They've destroyed things that they shouldn't have done. And they, the person who wants this park, she wants it
to be all native. So they don't want flowering trees in the first place. Third, whoever's making these decisions, it's obvious to me after working out there to plant trees on the rideway of the city of Miami at their encouragement for years that these politicians have
never been out there. It's no fun out there. You're breathing car fumes. You know, every time the train comes over, it like shakes your whole body and you you can't even talk for a minute until the the train. This idea that you know, some family go out and take Johnny and
and Sally out there on Sunday to walk or bike will never happen. Nobody wants their kid out there. Oh yeah, let's get toughen up the kid by, you know, having his ears blasted and have him breathing car exhaust. It's also very dangerous. a
drunken driver could jump a curve and kill somebody. It's just the underlying is a halfbaked proposal that's costing us taxpayers big big money. Don't buy into this stuff. Let them do what they want to do. They got the county support,
but keep Gene Willis Park as a separate beautiful oasis of beauty and and ecological benefits. I understand you're talking about putting apartment houses in this new area as part of the of the redevelopment. That would be a perfect
place for the people who live there. And I know when we first did the park, it was visited much more than it is today. It's kind of run down. It's been 33 years. I did fund about I guess it was nine years ago small replanting of part
of it, but the people that promised me that they would water it, they didn't do it. I think every plant of that re that little band-aid has been lost. This time if we do it, we will keep care of the trees, make sure they're mulched and
properly cared for, and you we can make this an oasis of beauty and ecological benefits. >> Thank you, Mr. Pierce. I look forward to having a conversation offline with you. Okay. I said thank you for your comments. I look forward to having a conversation with you offline. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you, sir.
>> Uh next up on the list, we've got Valencia Brown. Uh again, this is on the clinic lease. You're welcome to speak now or when the item is called. Miss Brown, I'm assuming she's going to wait then. Um Amy Mccantsz,
>> please come forward. Good evening. >> My name is Amy MC. I have worked for Dr. Scott for 17 years. >> Miss, before you begin, if I can get your address for the record, my apologies. >> My name is Amy McCann. I live at 6272 Southwest 59th Place, Miami, Florida
33143. >> Thank you so much. >> Okay. I have been working for Dr. Scott for 17 years. I'm the person that sanitize the clinic and keeps it squeaky clean. Along
that 17 years, I find Dr. Dr. Scott to be a kind-hearted, genuine, and fair person who takes pride and great concern in the well-being of the children. Dr. Scott Dr. Scott treats our patients with
the utmost care and respect and is loved by all. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. McCZ. Um, next on the list, Vanessa Blanding. Again, on the clinic lease, you're welcome to speak now or when item nine is called. This Blanding.
Okay. Um, Dominique, I think it's G or Y. I can't make out the last initial. Dominique. Okay, not seeing Dominique. Uh, Mayor Phillips, you're recognized. >> Good evening. My name is Sally Phillips
and I live at 7310 Southwest 64th Court in South Miami. And that my first request is please from now on would you call me either Sally or Dr. Phillips if you have to be formal. But I do don't
call me mayor anymore. I I I give you permission not to go along with what is the current and you know approved way of doing things. I I'm actually more comfortable with calling me Sally. >> Understood. >> Or Dr.
>> Happy to honor the request. >> Thank you. The other thing is too, I would I think it's much more appropriate to start a civic meeting with a moment of silence as opposed to a prayer. And I I would like to go on record as saying
that that I would prefer that as far as I it was always my understanding that that's how this city started its civic meetings. Um, and so I would like to ask please that you return to that that
standard. And although I did not put this down as something I wanted to talk about because I'm my head is in a lot of different places. I want to absolutely support the city renewing the lease for the children's center. So I I I hope that's just on the the agenda because
it's pro- fora and not because it's a question because that is a very valuable service and there should be no question about it. Thank you. >> Thank you for your comments. Uh Mr. Levi Kelly, you're recognized, sir. >> Thank you, sir. Um
I'm going to recognize Philip Stoddard next. All right. Very very briefly, I'm going to come back for the public hearing on some of the other items. Um, but I wanted to sort of follow up a little bit on on Steve Steve Pearson's comments on the on
the Gene Willis Park. Um, if or when the city hall property is redeveloped, um, something I want you all to think about is the noise of the train. And you can't miss it, of course. You hear it everywhere. Um, but I think
that park may become more valuable as a recreational amenity than it currently is. Right now it's it's a relatively little used park. Mr. Pearson's right about not being able to move the big trees. We checked into that and they just don't move. Points don't move. That
couple others don't move. Um but that tree that that park I think will increase in its recreational value considerably and will form a very nice amenity for any residential that's built on this site here. So that's just something to keep in mind uh when you
sort of thinking about the the value of that site in the future. And I'll come back and talk to you at the public hearings. Thank you so much. >> Thank you sir. Um George Good evening. Uh, George Mang, 6531 Southwest 62nd Court. >> It's been It's been a long time. >> Yeah. I uh I'm here to talk about 62nd
Court, but really quick, I want to say thank you to the mayor and uh Corey and everyone up there that helped uh Miss Kim Coffee, our resident homeless lady. Um, Officer Npier, a fantastic guy,
would would pick up the phone in Ohio and tell me what to do. And his now predecessor, uh, Mr. Prathers or or Prathers. Um, another good guy. I think that, uh, he's going to fill those shoes that are hard to fill because officer
Napier was >> one of kind, >> a great gentleman. So, thank you very much for all the help. I know uh, Brian, I've spoken with him. I already offered my thanks and I'm here saying it again. Thank you very much. So, I want to talk
about uh 62nd Avenue. You know, for many years the the the line of the downtown was 70th Street and they turned that 62nd Avenue that was a fourlane raceway
back down the two lanes and you know that sh that area should stay low density. I know they came up with the the Todd support. I don't know where they pulled that out of. In my opinion, Todd support sounds great and the way we
should support it is by lower density approaching our city already. When South Miami Hospital Rehab Center gets online and all the new buildings start getting online, where are people going to go? They're not 62nd Avenue now sometimes
gets blocked all the way to 64th. So now putting a sixstory building there and then a bunch of residents behind it, that density is crazy and outrageous and I think it'll be horrible for our city going forward. I don't think the city
should grant property owners a gift of $50 million because right now under the zoning that they had prior to this change, they couldn't build a whole heck of a lot. They could have made $15 million, but
they choose not to. They want to go for the, you know, $70 million range. And on the backs of the people that live here, right? Because that's what we're giving up is our quality of life here in South Miami. What's the city getting out of it? What? Why would the city be so
interested in allowing such a crazy project going up right behind residents in an area that I was told, you know, isn't part of Todd, but now with this new designation, it seems it is. Where's this going to end? Is it going to be
sixtory all the way to 64th Street? I I It's too big of a building. I think if they they've brought these developments over the 25 years I've lived there 15 times and it's always such an outrageous disgusting amount of density that you
know it gets voted down. Why don't the developers get together with the residents and figure out something a little better that will work there? But six stories and then threetory tearing back to two for housing there. our neighbors, Luigi, you know, Frank here,
me, and I see many of my neighbors back here. How many signatures do you need to get the residents involved? I will go doortodoor and get all the signatures required so we can at least have a seat at the table when that decision is being
made. And everyone has my number. You know, you can call me. I'll be I'm available at any given moment. And get the residents involved. deny this sixtory this much density. It It doesn't make sense there. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you for your comments. Okay, that's all. Excuse me. That's all the names I have on the list. Madam clerk, we've got a couple raised hands. I see. Uh Rashidita is the first one. Rashidita, if you can unmute yourself.
>> Hi. Yes. Um, I just wanted to speak on the uh renewal for the clinic. >> Rashid, if you can get your name and address for the record, please. >> Yes, it's um 7853 Southwest 195th Street. >> And your last name, please.
>> Elias. >> Thank you. Go ahead, please. Um, basically, um, I'm a foster parent, and I also work for, um, a nonprofit, Genesis Hope Haven, and we, um, work
with foster kids like across, uh, South Miami on the we work with, um, all of them on the south side. And, um, we use Dr. Scott often. She's been like super helpful. and um all my kids go to
her um and that clinic and um she's um helped a lot uh at our nonprofit as well just talking with the kids um and just providing like resources. She's very very helpful. So that's all.
>> Thank you for your comments, Rashidita. Um we'll recognize Sonia Steven next. Sonia, if you could please unmute yourself. M Miss Men, if you can unmute yourself and then please give us your name and address for the record, please. Miss Stephen.
Okay, let's move on. Um, I think I saw an iPhone 515 next. iPhone 515. If you could unmute yourself, please. And if you could please share your name and address for the record, please. >> Yes. Hi. How are you? I'm Athena Atinson. My apologies for the iPhone 15.
Okay. I was trying to put my name in. >> Mine's 147, so it's all good. >> Okay. Thanks. Um Um, my address is 227 um South Dixie Highway, Coral Gables, Florida. and I am advocating for the clinic. Um, just to let you know, I I'm
a passionate member of the community. I had the opportunity to work with Dr. Scott um during the summer. Um, I taught a a cooking a cooking class um to enrich the the students in that um area for
over two decades now. how I ded dedicate myself to teaching and it's in it's been incredibly rewarding to bring my ex expertise to that community community. The clinic is more than just an healthc care facility. It's a lifeline for our families. Dr. Scott is more than a
doctor. She's a beacon of hope uh working to provide the care and support of our comm of our community. Um by keeping this clinic, we are invested in the health and well-being of our children and families. We are ensuring that that they have access to resources
they need to thrive. This clinic is a space where empathy meets health care, where education meets opportunity. Let us come together to to support the vital institution by preserving this clinic. We are not just maintaining a building. We are nurturing our community and
future. Thank you. >> Thank you for your comments again, Miss Atinson. Uh Anam Majid, if you can please unmute yourself. Hello, my name is Anama Majid. I live at 5928 Southwest 66th Street, Miami, Florida 33143.
And I'm here to express how essential it is to extend Dr. Scott's clinic lease. Not only for her as a practitioner, but for the community she serves every single day. In many ways, positions like Dr. Scott are the backbone of our local healthcare system. To this day, Dr. Dr.
Scott remains my family's primary point of contact for medical assistance, alleviating our struggles with access to care. Dr. Scott's practice provides not just medical treatment, but reassurance, guidance, and continuity, which is something that is increasingly rare in
today's healthcare. She partners with community programs and local organizations to bring preventative care, education, and wellness initiatives directly to the people who need them most, especially advocating for vaccine education and preventing the
spread of diseases, as well as hosting food drives for our community. On a more p personal note, I firsthand seen the difference Dr. Scott makes throughout my childhood. Dr. Scott didn't treat me like a regular patient. She never brushed off my concerns, listened
attentively, and ensured I was doing well in school. Whenever I was overwhelmed or struggling with certain subjects, Dr. Scott provided me with free tutoring resources and helpful online resources. I have watched her continuously advocate for my
health and that of my brothers by providing us with healthcare information as well as ensuring that our providers are treating us fairly and ethically even though we are now adults. Her care has inspired my brother and I to pursue
healthcare. I also recall her holding numerous holiday activities throughout my childhood for our community, providing children with positive core memories and giving them with positive giving them positive associations with physicians, which is something I'd like
to follow suit one day. These acts reflect the kind of care that cannot be replaced. Care rooted in community and compassion. Extending her lease isn't just a property decision. It's an investment in the health care and stability of our community. Ensures that
children and families continue to have access to someone who knows them and advocates for them. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you for your comments. Uh we'll call next uh J Justin uh Ritzinger. Mr. Ritzinger, you are recognized to speak.
If you could please unmute yourself and share your address for the record. Justin, >> Justin, can you mute yourself, please? >> Yes, sorry. >> No problem. If you could share your address for the record, please.
>> My address is 7747 Southwest 86th Street, uh, apartment 110, uh, Miami, Florida 33143. Uh I'm calling in to voice support uh for the renewal of the South Miami Children's Glenn Police. Uh my children
have gone to Dr. Scott for six years now. Uh she is an absolutely fabulous doctor. Um I am thrilled uh that someone was able to introduce me to her. I often tell people that I feel like I received
concierge medicine all while supporting a nonprofit uh by bringing my children. She responds to messages well after the end of the business day. She's called uh when I was concerned about something with my younger daughter uh when she was
coming back on a road trip on a Sunday. uh the level of care that she provides to her patients, many of whom lack insurance uh and economic advantages is almost unheard of in American medical. Uh the leadership that she provides to
the community, whether that is through her vaccine drives or her work to bring mobile uh mobile food clinics to the community, uh is really exemplary. Uh so I just wanted to speak in support of that. I think she's a treasure to the community uh
that I am very grateful for and I feel the city of South Miami should be as well. Thank you. >> Thank you for your comment, sir. Uh we'll recognize next uh Zani Haspel. >> Yes. Good evening. Thank you for accepting my comment. My name is Zwani
Haspel. My address is 11991 Southwest 119th Street, Miami, Florida 33186. >> Thank you. You're recognized, ma'am. Go ahead. >> Thank you. Thank you. and I'm speaking this evening on behalf of the South
Miami Clinic Renewal. Um, as a a public servant in the community, working for the Miami Dade County Public School System for over 20 years, I've had the opportunity of working with many agencies and many medical clinics for
different reasons, servicing our students. Working with Dr. Scott, there's no comparison uh to what she does and her heartfelt work in the community. Um it's not only medical,
it's also education, it's also compassion. Um I don't know if you're familiar with the agency Doctors Without Borders. So those are doctors that they work all over the world. Um Dr. Scott to me, she is that person in in the city of
South Miami. It doesn't matter who you are, where you come from, what your background is, what your ethnicity, color, nothing. What matters is the person. And that is a gift that not many people have. That is a gift that not
many people have the opportunity to receive when receiving medical care and also the extension of her clinic which is also um you know providing as we have heard already uh food drives uh
education through uh diet uh with the different um chefs that have come into the community to teach children and families how to adequately use food resources. um educational um services, tutoring, and we heard
about the swimming, and it it just goes on and on. Um but just to to to just say that Dr. Scott and her service, it's a treasure. And honestly, it would be foolish. It would be something foolish
to not continue that. Um because not only is her service amazing, but she is an example to people of all ages. I dare say I'm older than Dr. Scott, and she's an example to
me. Um so please, please, please um you know, it's it it's more than a money situation. It's a life situation. She is truly a lifeline to the city of South Miami and and to anyone that comes in
contact with her service. So, you know, thank you again for this opportunity and we are rooting for that South Miami Children's Clinic. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for your comments. And just to take the suspense out of the item, I think I want to say that we are rooting for the clinic as well. And uh
tonight tonight's tonight's item I think will pass on a 50 vote as we did on first reading after we hear a couple of technical amendments on the part of our city attorney. So but but again so uh we'll recognize the next speaker uh Afia
as well. I don't I didn't have your last name. If you could please unmute yourself. Uh you've got three minutes to address the commission. Good evening. >> Hi. Good evening. I'm sorry. Can you hear me? >> We can. Yes. >> Yes. Hello. Sorry. I'm sorry. My name is Afia Kadir. I live at 10841
Southwest 158th Street, Miami, Florida 33157. And I'd like to comment on behalf as well of South Miami Children's Clinic. >> Miss Mir, before you go forward, can you repeat the last you're your It was 10841 Southwest >> 10841 Southwest 158 Street.
>> Thank you for that. My apologies. Please go right ahead. >> No, no, you're fine. Thank you. So, yes, I'm calling on behalf of the commenting on behalf of South Miami Children's Clinic with Dr. Scott um just she like everyone has said she's been a pillar of hope to the community. Um I was a
resident of South Miami for many years before moving down to Homestead. But till this day um since my children have been born, they've been coming with her. I even travel from Homestead to go straight to her for all of their appointments. I wouldn't want it with
any other doctor, with any other clinic. She is absolutely phenomenal. She's been with them um since birth till now, every step of the way. And I wish I could even keep them there as they get older. But no, she's been a pillar of hope. I you
know, I pray she stays there. She's been a very great doctor, very attentive to everybody. Um no matter who it is, she My sister also goes there with her children and we all, you know, we embrace how caring, sympathetic she is.
It's so hard to find a doctor like that anywhere and I wouldn't change no matter where I am. I will go straight to her just for my children for for us as well. Thank you. Thank you so much. >> Thank you for your comments. Uh Miss Lisa Trouy, you're recognized if you
could unmute yourself. >> Miss Trouy. Lisa Trouy, you're recognized. if you could please unmute yourself. >> Sorry, technical difficulty. >> Hi. Of course. I I Can you hear me? >> We can. Yes. If you could just share your address for the record again, Mr. Truby, we'd appreciate it.
>> Yes. I'm Lisa Trouy, 6522 Southwest 76 Terrace, South Miami. Um I'm I'm I'm just going to very briefly say again, uh Dr. Scott. She and I I I've also been in the community working as a social worker
in our in our South Miami schools. And she and I have been very close since she started her clinic, which is uh grown in the community. Uh obviously all the people who are here to support her and her work and her team, which consists of
Amy, Mccants, and and Griselda. Um and they do just the three of them just do so much. Um, I think you're getting your money's worth if you ask me because it's more than a clinic. Obviously, they're doing so much more work uh besides
medical. Also, I will speak up for her mental health care. She has uh often called me many times over the years and we've worked together on those things and because the mental health needs of our kids are obviously a big important
thing that we all want to uh take care of and she has been on the forefront of that and also I'll I'll mention she started tella health before tellahalth was a thing before co she fought for it so uh innovative brilliant
never Um, I don't know how to I couldn't say a million I could say a million things about her. She is an amazing amazing hero of our community and uh we are she doesn't even live in South Miami. >> She does more for us than she does for
where she lives. >> Yes, we do. But we would But anyway, that's it for me and I love her and she's great and everybody obviously loves her. So, um, thank you for I hope you do what you said you were going to do. That sounds good to me.
Thank you for your comments. Uh, I see Rachel with a hand up. Rachel, if you could share your last name and your address. You're recognized. If you will unmute yourself. Good evening. >> Hi, my name is Rachel White. My address is 13902
Southwest 55th Street, Miami, Florida 33175. >> Thank you. >> I just wanted to get on here as one of Dr. Scott's current patients. Um, I've been seeing her since I was I can't even
remember how young. Um, she has made such a big impact in my life as a patient of hers. She's always been there. Super non-judgmental. She is like when kids watch a movie and they see this amazing doctor and when they
see these kids shows and it's the doctors are represented as such like amazing people. She is a great representation. Like I've never like I'm I'm getting out of age for her and I'm like stressing like oh my god am
I ever going to find a doctor who is genuine and sincere just as much as she is. And I feel like it would be a a dishonor to like take her from the kids and from the future kids that she will be seeing because it's a blessing. She's
honestly a blessing and an angel to South Miami. And I hope that you guys are able to renew the lease for that clinic because they really are superheroes to me and I'm saying that as like a a ripe 20-year-old. She is my hero and that clinic has done
so much for me. >> Thank you for your comments. Okay. Uh Madam Clerk, is there anyone else online that we can see with a raised hand? Anybody else online? lots of people who would like to address uh this commission on any on any item.
>> Raise your virtual hand. >> Again, if you if you'd like to address item nine, which is the children's clinic lease renewal, which we're going to approve, will be up immediately immediately after we close public remarks, which you also are welcome, as
you're right, under the public hearing to speak at that time. Seeing one more hand, which is Sonia Steven again. Stephen, I think we did we Oh, no. We missed you. So, >> I do have four names on the written list, which are Sheila Fernandez, Erica
Stanley, Lori Lori Butler, and Dennis Fay. I'm assuming you all wouldn't mind speaking. We call the item very shortly. Okay, >> great. Thank you. So, and we've got uh I know Mr. MC and Mr. Kelly and others who uh forewent their chance to speak during public remarks. Miss Steven, are you
here to address item nine? If not, I'm gonna invite you to speak when we bring it up shortly. Otherwise, I'm gonna ask you to unmute yourself. >> Good. >> And we and we will allow you to speak on any other item you'd like to address. Good evening. >> Good evening. Can you hear me? >> I can. Are you here to speak on the
clinic uh lease renewal? >> Yes. >> Okay. I'm going to invite you to mute yourself for one more minute so we can close public remark and then we're going to call up the item, have our city attorney explain some modest amendments that were made to benefit the clinic further and then we will open up public
hearing for anyone else who'd like to speak in favor of the item. Okay. So, mute yourself one more minute. Anyone else who would like to address this commission >> in public remarks online or in person? Speak now or forever hold your peace.
We've got one here. Please come forward, young lady. And again, if you can share your name and address for the record, we'd appreciate it. >> Um, good evening. My name is Sheila Fernandez. My address is 7473 Southwest 82 Street. >> Okay.
>> Um, we have a lot of good words about the clinic and I just would like to add to that. Um, I am a patient of Dr. Scott. I am a member of the city of South Miami. I attend sophomore senior high. I'm a senior and I would like to say that without the help of Dr. Scott,
I do not think I would be where I am today. She is not just a doctor, but I would like to say that she really is an advocate for her community. And I believe she is one of the great examples of black e excellence that we have in our community of South Miami. and she
deserves all of the praise and her proximity to those who need her, those who don't have health insurance, those who just have health issues that they need to be seen. They need her the most. And not just those people, everybody, every child and family can see her. She
really is what makes this city so pleasant. And she really does deserve to have this lease renewed, but I feel even more than that. And a lot has been said, but I would also just like to, even though she is behind me, to not just address the council, but to her. She is
a true leader for this community. She's not just a doctor. She doesn't just put band-aids on boooos. She really puts a band-aid over the community. She's not just a mother to her two amazing daughters. She's a mother to all of us. And that's I would like to say. Thank
you for your time. >> Thank you for your lovely words and having the courage to say something this evening. Okay, please come forward. Yes, >> it's fine. >> My name is Dennis F. Good evening, sir. Madam, uh so I'm from uh 1100 South
Street, Colables. I used to live in South Miami for many years at the 65th uh Avenue. So uh I'm want to speak in favor of renewing the lease for South Miami Clinic. Um so I take your words that renewed. So what all all I just
want to say is that since I now live in Coral Gables if the lease is not renewed today tomorrow I'm going to speak to doc mayor mayor Lago >> we don't want that >> Anderson it's not happening it's not happen >> okay we're gonna we're gonna mute your microphone sit down
>> no thank you for your comments evening >> hi my name is Kimberly Davis 8112 Southwest 73rd Avenue I am driving all the way from day mall Um, >> it's a long drive, >> but today it's traffic. Um, but I wanted to say uh very quickly, I'm the
co-founder and president of the Coconut Grove Optimus Club, and Dr. Scott has been someone that we can lean on even as an outside entity. Um, we're not necessarily within South Miami, but our a lot of our children, they may attend school in South Miami, but then they may do sports in the Grove, or they may live
in South Miami, but they do sports in the Grove. but she's been sure to uh she's ensured that our children have access and they're not denied. Personally, I don't know if people know here, but as of 20124, over 22,000 children were dropped from Medicaid.
Those are children that were too were too high for traditional Medicaid, but they also could not afford traditional insurance. Well, my husband works a full-time 9 to5. Uh Mr. Mayor, I did the cleanup here with you with his job. We're we're both hardworking people.
Unfortunately, we fell in that pile of people who had children that were uninsured. We had too much money for Medicaid, yet too little money for traditional insurance. Dr. Scott did not turn us away. When we called, she didn't say, "Well, do you have Medicaid or do you have regular insurance?" She didn't
say, "Well, are you going to be able to pay $500 for this one visit?" She said, "If they're sick, you can bring them and I'm going to be there to help them." These are the type of doctors that we need. Lastly, I would like to say that while we're hearing so much comment about what she does for the community, I
would like for this council, for you all great lady and ladies and gentlemen, to do something for this clinic more than just uh maybe a renovation. Maybe there needs to be additional funding added more so than a lease renewal. We need to
talk about renewal of resources because she has gone above and beyond to ensure that this community and other communities have what they need. Thank you so much for your time. >> Thank you. And Miss Davis, don't leave yet. Come back, please. I was just talking with the council about our
conversation about the optimist earlier. So, if you could do me the favor >> because I gave you my cell phone number, but you never called me. >> You did. >> Could you leave your cell phone number with Brandon, please, so I can give you a call? Thank you very much. >> Good to see you again. >> Okay. Uh Erica Stanley. Oh, no. Sorry.
What am I doing? Erica Stanley, Lori Butler. Uh if you'd like to speak now, you are welcome. or if not we will call the item up when we close public hearing and you can address us then. No, can't can't get you to wait a minute maybe. Thank you very much. Okay, so with that, seeing no one else in public remarks uh
in the audience or line, we're if you're here on the clinic, >> I'm going to call you up. I promise. Okay, the price will be right in one minute. Okay, you can come on down the aisle. Okay. Okay. Okay, we are going to close public remarks uh this evening and
colleagues if unless you have a strong objection which I hope you will not can we please have the clerk read item nine for the record please. >> Yes. Item nine an ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida approving a lease agreement with Southland Children's Clinic Inc. in
connection with an existing franchise providing for the continued use of the property located at 6655 Southwest 58th Place authorizing the city manager to execute the lease agreement. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Okay. No, you cannot say anything. This you're the
only folks I can control here. So, I'm going to try to get back control of my meeting. So, for the minute. So, I what I would like to do is very quickly, Mr. City Attorney, since we approved this on first reading with less generous terms, I'd like you to read the modifications that would have requested by the clinic
that we are also incorporating and we'll hopefully approve in very short order. So, if you can please run us through the changes. Sorry, madam city attorney. Excuse me. Thank you. >> Good evening, everybody. So, since first reading, there was some cleanup changes made to this lease by us, the city attorneys, and also the clinic proposed
some changes, almost all of which we accepted except for one insurance matter. And I if you'd like I can run through. >> Sure. Are you happy to do that? Yeah. >> The first change was section 5.1.1. And you should all have a red line in front of you. And essentially this gave them
an additional 30 days to complete inspections and certification of the site if they need it. >> Okay. >> Okay. 5.3. Recurring repairs. The clinic inserted the amount of $5,000. Uh so if the repairs to the clinic exceed 5,000
notify notify us. Fair enough. >> Item 8.2 the certificate of insurance. Uh we ask that the hazard insurance or casualty insurance property name the city as an additional insured. So that was not accepted. >> Some insurance modifications were made
regarding deductibles and minimum insurance limits. All of which were accepted. I believe that saw uh mayor and commission and we did insert the legal description which was missing in the first draft and the clinic proposed exhibit B which essentially is a sketch
of the premises. >> Okay. >> And that's the red area circled there. >> Okay. I just want to ask Dr. Scott because by the way congratulations because you are certainly going to heaven and I know that if I know that if and if I voted against this lease renewal I'm certainly going to hell. So,
uh, I just wanted to ask you, did you do you have any objections? Any of the changes that were that were incorporated >> any address is incorrect. >> The address is incorrect. So, madam city attorney, if we could just note the correct address. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So, the that the there was a
former address for that site, but that site was parcled off and there is actually it has its own folio and it was assigned an address. >> So, 6685 is the newly assigned address. >> The newly assigned address by the property appraiser. I'm not sure when that occurred, but that if you check on the property appraisers website, that's what you will find. >> Either way, the legal description
controls, so it's we're we're on safe ground other way. So hopefully that's not a big deal. Any other any other issues or was everything else aokay? >> Okay. Okay. Before we'll close, we'll take some comments. We'll recognize you to speak before we open a public hearing and then we'll go from there. Okay. Uh
Madame Commissioner, you wanted to say something. >> You're recognized. >> I I make you nervous. I know I do. Um, it's true. I just want to point out that while there is a lot of support for
this, I think we would be remiss in not voicing that this is a healthc care center at the corner of a healthc care center. I'm not saying good, bad or indifferent, but we are famous for, you know, putting a park next to a park across the street from a park where we
do these things quite often. So, I want us to be very cognizant, not just us, but for the record, our residents, that this is a clinic that is open for everyone, as is the one down the street. I'm not saying one care is better than the other. They both exist.
I also want us to be aware for the future as our needs change, as I am sure that they will as we continue to grow and evolve as a city. This is 4,000 square feet for one
doctor. I'm not saying the use of the space is good, bad, indifferent. I am pointing out an obvious fact. There is also the Mobly building which is directly adjacent, you know, on the other side of the field to this. In the future, if we see that we need to use
this space for parks and wreck, we may want to consider the moving of this. And at that point, we would have to look at what the financing of that would be. But I think it is important for all of these things to be top of mind for all of us. Thank you.
>> Thank you for your comments, colleagues. Any other comments? Yes, Commissioner Rodriguez, you're recognized. >> My comment will just be short and sweet. Is uh Dr. Scott, not all superheroes have capes. So, I think you heard from everybody.
Thank you for all the work that you do in the community. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, anyone else? Commissioner Kaya. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Uh, I think that we I'd be remiss if we in the three years that most of us have been here or Vice Mayor Cory a little bit longer that
we've always been a big supporter of what you're doing. We've offered help, pledge, sweat, whatever we can do to help out, to do better, to do more. Whatever you guys need, if it's fixing up faucets, whatever it is, come ask. Let's get together. Let's do more. I
think you have what Commissioner Bonich is saying is that you have an opportunity to do you're doing great. Obviously, you're doing fantastic. You're doing God's work, but we are here to help. I think the community is here to help. And I think if we all get together and chip in, we can do a little bit more. But obviously, you're doing an
amazing job and I'm so thankful for what everything you do for the community. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Commissioner. Uh, you're good. Okay. I I'll save my remarks till after public remarks. Um, with that, this is a public hearing item on second reading. Any member of the public who'd
like to address this commission is welcome to do so at this time. Uh, I'm going to try and go back in the order of folks who I called previously but delay their opportunity to speak. Uh, on this item, uh, the first person I believe who
waved their time was Mr. Kelly. So, Mr. Kelly, you're recognized. And then I have Miss Sonia Steven who I believe is online. So I will call her next. So Miss Steven, please be ready to address the commission. And then we will proceed to Erica Stanley, Lori Butler, and then anyone
else who I have not do not have on the list. >> Good afternoon, Levi Kelly, 6250 Southwest 60 Avenue. And I do pray for you guys aloud. I think you do a great job. >> Thank you. >> And I just want to give you some praise.
Now, as it stands right now, I I also pray every night for Dr. Scott and her operation. She's a good person. Never refuse a call from me. I've made some unusual requests sometime to help
people that uh need help. So, I I'm heartened tonight to know that uh type of support she's getting out in in the universe and also the support she's gotten from this
audience tonight. Uh I think um as Commissioner Cay said, we can do more. We just need to come together, put our heads together, and figure out what we can do.
Um, I just think that we need to have every opportunity to use the expertise, especially right now what we have going on in this country with the false things about medicine that's
out there, vaccines in particular, as it comes to the black community. We're skeptics anyway when it comes to that. So, anything that we got that can encourage people to get the kids vaccinated,
I think is a good thing. And when they see somebody black skin as as we do uh uh in uh in terms of putting the trust in someone,
then it can only help. So, I again I want to thank each and every one of you. for all the work that you do. You continue to do. I know sometime you guys get yelled at ladies and and that's part
of the job, I guess. So, I think you all got uh got your armor on. So, I just want to thank you. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate your comments. >> Okay, Miss Sonia Stevens, I had you next. If you could I believe you're still online. If you can unmute yourself,
you're recognized. Good evening. Um, can you hear me now? >> Yes, >> we can. Yes. >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Um, my name is Sonia Steven, 835 Southwest 72nd Avenue, Miami, Florida.
I'm here um because Dr. Scott for my entire family is more than an angel. She is a person who came into my life in three difficult moments. The first one
was when my son was I had an emergency with my son very small no insurance and she was there for us and after that I stayed with her because of her quality
not only as a doctor but as a human being. Um, she is a doctor that will be with you 24/7. Whenever we need her, she's there for us. It doesn't matter the time on the moment.
The second moment when I needed her, I just expressed my concern when my son was going um his graduation was from high school last year and I didn't know what to do to get him in college because
college is very expensive. So um she uh as an angel I as I said she um helped us to apply to different um scholarships and my son did his way through all the
rounds of the Posi Foundation as he got into college in California which uh it's it's uh amazing for us as a family and I thank uh Dr. Scott for that. She got involved in each moment of
our lives. And the third one I just wanted to mention also is when my mom passed away at the end of last year. She was there for us. She came to us when we was devastated and help us to open um um
gunding to have uh funds uh enough to bury my mom as how she deserve it. Gloria Steven an active person in South Miami community. So, uh, I'm here for her
because, uh, South Miami Children's Clinic deserve a doctor like her and also the city of Pleasant Living as South Miami. Uh, she is an asset for every kid in that area. So, thank you so
much for this opportunity to speak on behalf my um, major. I don't know if my son can help um can speak because he is here with me from California at this moment and he would like to to say a few
words. I don't know if it's possible. >> Uh yes, that's okay. We'll just uh start the clock again for three minutes. But yes, >> thank you so much. I really appreciate it. God bless everybody. >> Hi, how are you? As someone that is
heavily involved in the medical industry, uh I would like to, you know, remark the importance of having such an outstanding individual in a community, especially a community that has faced a lot of adversity
uh throughout the years. And I I do believe that the work that she has done is outstanding throughout the years. And also, you know, I would like to remark the importance of a children's clinic in
a community because nowadays you barely see children hospitals and clinics around. And as I as I've traveled throughout the US, you see less and less of of that. And it's very sad because
they're the future of a community. And it's important to have clinics that specialize on taking care of children, especially with doctors that are dedicated uh to caring for the future of
those communities. It's it's essential and it's a it's a practice that has been lost and this cannot happen in in in this community and it will it it would be very sad and disappointing if it were
to to be gone. So, thank you very much. I appreciate your time. >> Thank you for your comments. Um I think next on the list, Erica Stanley. Stanley, you recognize. Thank you for your patience. Good evening everyone.
>> Good evening. >> Um, Dr. Scott has gone above and beyond. I call her my little oasis in the desert, especially in this time where there's so many challenges. I moved to South Miami
in 2016 with four children and an empty apartment that I rent. Didn't know where to start and somebody made the connection. She was a doctor for my kids until they age out. The last one, she's second generation Dr. Scott. So, she's
my do one of my daughter's kids. My son is here. And I just want to say that she has gone above and beyond. I heard somebody mention something about mental health. It's so important. I remember one of my daughters got committed to,
you know, for two times in one of the mental institutes and Dr. Scott went above and beyond to ensure that she stay connected with her. It's somebody you can reach out to anytime. You know, it's such a blessing, I would call it. And I would I wish I could put the lease on
auto renewal, but I know that's not possible. But if it was possible, you know, that we don't have to come, we would we would do it. We would do it. Okay. Sure. >> We wouldn't have to come and petition every five years because without her, you have heard the testimonies. You've heard so many people speak and she's
impacted my life and my daughter who is now an ego scout. When she was doing her ego project, she went to New World School of the Arts. Then she was going to New World. She did I don't know if anybody knows the clinic the the the painting on the wall. She did that hand
painted that mural on the wall because she wanted to give back to somebody who gave to her. That was what she chose as our ego project and I'm very grateful for her and the impact that she's played the role she has played in my life and
also it's now extended to my grandchildren. So you have already said that you've approved app proved the least and I'm grateful and and I thank everyone for coming out this evening and really just voiced in how she and this clinic has impacted our life. So I
didn't give my address. I'm a little further down the road now of 64 but I still she's still the doctor for all of my children that are within the age for her to support from a pediatric point of view. >> Thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> Have a good evening.
Okay. Lori Butler. Miss Butler, good evening. >> Hi, my name is Lori Butler. I live at 1101 Stanford Drive, Unit 129, Coral Gables, 33146. Um, won't be that long. Um, I'm
presenting my testimonial in support of, of course, Dr. Scott in the South Miami Children's Clinic. And in 2016, I met Dr. uh Scott. I was searching for a pediatrician who was well connected with the local resources and other support for my then three-year-old son who has
autism and other coorbidities. And my husband and I were referred to Dr. Scott from a colleague at the University of Miami. And I was immediately impressed by her compassion and thoughtfulness not only for my son but also for us asking how were we doing? And Dr. Scott's
impact it extends beyond our family. She was the voice of calm during the pandemic. She's also a trusted source of information uh for parents providing important health reminders and education through mobile her through mobile platforms and in-person events. During
the pandemic, Dr. Scott was highly sought after if you've watched on any network and was able to have a further reach uh to view viewers nationwide with her sound advice. She provides stellar health care with her holistic and sound medical approach caring for both
children and parents. Her heart is on call 247. Uh and her medical expertise, empathy, and resourcefulness benefit the family she serves. She immediately responds when you have a concern. I have literally texted her and I don't know if
she really sleeps, but she responds very quickly. She puts on a number of community events and uses her own resources to provide gifts for children in the community during holidays. She's an asset to South Miami as well as those families who are part of the University
of Miami community. Dr. Scott is an extraordinary person who has inspired me personally and countless other families in the surrounding areas. And thank you for your approval. >> Thank you for your testimony. Um, we'll recognize now Miss Lata Francis.
Miss Francis, good evening. You're recognized. >> Miss Francis, if you can unmute yourself. >> Hi. Um, technical difficulties. >> No, no problem. Just if you can provide us your address for the record, we'd appreciate it.
>> Well, I honestly I'm coming on behalf of FIU. I don't live in South Miami, but >> regular. That's That's good. That's good enough. Welcome back. >> Okay. How you doing? >> Good. >> Um I'm just again I want to speak on behalf of Dr. Scott and um just the
clinic itself. Um providing the quality care that she provides for the neighborhood, for the kids in the area. Um, some of the families are part of FIU and we see the
improvement from where they started to where they are now, whether it be healthwise, mental mentally, um, behavioral, they've they've all improved. Um, they're not just there as patients. They're not just there as numbers. They're actually a part of a
family. And I think she's continues to show the justice in in the the resources and the drive that she has to provide for the community. You have other, you know, you do have other clinics in the area, but they don't provide the level
of service that she provides. Um, so I just wanted to make note of that that she continues to strive and FIU supports her in that because she does the such a good job. Um, I appreciate my time. You you giving me
the time to speak on her behalf. >> You appreciate joining us again. Thank you so much and and thank you for your partnership with the clinic. Um, recognizing uh Michelle Sheree. Michelle, if you could please unmute yourself. Yes. Hello.
>> Good evening. Um, >> my name is Michelle Daniels. I reside at 5944 Southwest 64th Street, apartment 305. Um, uh, I worked for Dr. Scott for over nine
years. Um, so I want to speak on the difference between the South Miami Children's Clinic and the other clinics that's in the community of South Miami. Not only did I work for her, I am born and raised in the community of South Miami. The difference between Dr. Scott and the other clinics is Dr. Scott goes
beyond just being a pediatrician. She touches the total family. And I can guarantee you she knows every patient name by name, by number, by phone, by address. She knows each and every one of
them. Dr. Scott helped me not only with the job um but one of the the the things that she's done for me was help my son. My son went to South Miami um elementary which is now South Miami K through8 and um he
suffered from um reading disabilities. I have been going to the school and she saw this because like I said I worked for her for over nine years. I was the um the receptionist and she saw what I was going through. my husband and I were going through um trying to get him help. The school would not provide help. She
offered legal services for some of the um the patients. I wasn't a patient at the time, but I worked for her and she saw what I was going through and she decided to go to the legal services and ask them if they would help me. And because of that, my son was able to get the services that he need, which was a
IEP. My son was retained three times and also had a late birthday. So, the other clinics don't touch uh personal things. They probably don't. I I use the other clinic and I can guarantee you they probably don't remember me. She
remembers every patient whether they still go there or not. I watched her use her own finances to help feed families. The other clinics don't do that. I watched her pay for bills. I watched her pay for uh kids school clothes. I
watched her give take from her family sometimes and take time from her family sometimes to make sure that she showed up for children because they parents couldn't go to certain events. She paid for one of her uh her um patients to go to school in New York once the
grandmother passed away. The other clinics don't do that. So, she's a big difference. She pro she's a pillar of South Miami. I am born and raised in South Miami and I know what people gave to South Miami and I can tell you that she's given more than some of the people
that are still there. She wor she she's concerned about the total family. Not just if your child is sick, not if just as your child has asthma or whatever. when I couldn't afford to pay for my kids medicine sometime because my son suffers from severe allergies and asthma sometimes she came out of pocket
although she was paying me she came out of pocket and provided services for my family my whole family my entire family knows her she showed up to my father-in-law's funeral when she didn't have to >> Michelle Michelle appreciate your comments if I can ask you to wrap up
here in the next 10 seconds >> the difference between her is she she touches the total family not is the the the patience. Thank you for um allowing me to speak. >> Thank you for your testimony. Okay. Uh I see and I'm I'm going to
butcher his name and my apologies. Kalani M uh online with a raised hand if you'd like to unmute yourself. You're recognized. >> Yes. Good evening. Am I being heard? >> Yes, you are. >> Hi. Good evening everyone. Um want to
speak on behalf of the hot topic this evening. If you could start with your name, your your full name, please, we'd appreciate it. And your address. Thank you. >> I'm so sorry. Just so excited to be able to support Dr. Scott. My name is Kelani Melo, 1211 Walsh Avenue, Coral Gables
33146. >> So, yes, please proceed. >> I just honestly wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude um to the council for renew for voting to renew the children's clinic in the city. Um, to be honest, this decision
means so much to a lot of the families around the area who depend on Dr. Scott, as previously stated in many of the testimonies. Um, her incredible team from Griselda to uh the other inspiring lady who cleans up uh the clinic and
ensures it's all sanitized and ready for us to be received and serviced. Um it's honestly not just for medical care, but um she's there for the peace of mind that comes from just being seen, heard, and cared for, you know, with true
compassion. Um even, you know, touching the mom through postpartum. And I think that's very valuable, a topic that does not go um spoken of very often. So honestly, she's just been more than a pediatrician to many of us. You know,
she's been a partner in in my daughter's growth, a steady hand during illness. Countless times I've messaged her in panic as a first-time mom. And honestly, to me, she's just a trusted voice through some of, you know, our
challenging parenting moment. So, her clinic represents the heart of, you know, the medicine, the community medicine. and um it speaks to just the inclusive work um of accessibility just personal and um her work is just deeply
rooted and in the well-being of our kids. So um I just you know wanted to thank you all for recognizing that value and for standing with the families who rely on her care and the extension of who she is through her staff as well. Um, so you know, uh, the council's
support today ensures that our children continue to really have a safe, familiar place to turn to and a place that truly reflects the spirit of the community in South Miami. So, um, just again, thank you all for your time, uh, your vote,
and nevertheless, your belief in what local care can mean for our families through Dr. Scott and her team. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much for your comments. Um I don't see anyone with a raise hand online. I do know Mr. McCants had uh want to speak.
So what I'm going to ask Mr. McCz and please come forward after. Anyone else in chambers who'd like to address other than other than Dr. Scott who'd like to address this commission on item nine. Please just go ahead and start making a line. We'll hear you straight away. Mr. McCann, good evening. Um, it's not too
much more that I can say, but really, um, isn't it good to know a saint? You know, really, it is. Um, and I'm I'm glad that she's hearing all these good things here, you know, because a lot of the times, you know, people wait till
it's all over and then they say the good things, you know. Um, but it's true. I've witnessed um a lot of things that she's has gone through. Uh, I heard earlier about the automatic renewal charter reform. Charter reform.
>> Um but um seriously, the resources and the money that she's put out of her pocket, my me too, you know, and she's become a good friend uh of mine uh for this community and the resources uh and we l we worked on a lot of projects
together. Uh so we look forward to the additional resources that can become available for her. um uh in the future and we thank you in advance for passing this. Okay. >> Thank you, sir. >> Keep it short. >> Appreciate it. Yeah.
>> Anyone else like to justice commission? Please come forward. Come on down. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Uh Deborah Pow from 13921 Southwest 158th Street. and I was born, bred, raised, and all of that good stuff
in South Miami. Um, uh, they basically was mostly said that some of the best species are brief and to the point and authentic. So, all I'm going to say,
I wholeheartedly agree with everything that was said earlier, and I rest my case. Thank you. >> Thank you. You are you a true disciple of Ben Franklin. There we go. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Uh Takara aware. Um my
address is 6701 Southwest 61st Street, apartment 309. Uh I mean I've watched everyone practically move to tears when we talked about Dr. Scott. Understand that there is a clinic and I'm a product
of South Miami. I came I grew up there but when I came to Dr. Scott I was a statistic a single mom and I was 19 years old and now with her help and her leadership her guidance her support her mentorship I'm a different type of
statistic. I'm a single mom but I'm also almost a graduate of University of Miami. So everything changes when you have somebody in your corner like that. So, I just want to say yes, we have clinics, clinics, we have Target, we
have Walmart, we have uh Publix, we have Wendixie. It's not the same care. So, I I just want to put that out there. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you for your comments. Let's Let's wrap up public hearing and we'll open it up again. >> First time I see your hearts out there. >> Yeah. >> First time I see
>> Let's Let's get through it. >> We need no humanity today. Please go ahead. Be recognized. >> Miss Wearer, I just want to say your grandmother adores you and the senior center, they they love you there. >> They absolutely love you and talk about
you all the time. >> That was the first time I see hearts in the in the screen for us. >> First time I see hearts when you were speaking up here, >> guys. Sorry. I'm going to I'm going to bring this home because we need to we need to get through the meeting. We we haven't gotten through we're getting through our first action item and there
are other residents who have an item they want to speak on as well. So I want to be respectful of them as well here. Okay. It's not for a lack of love for Dr. Scott. So um I'm going to take control back. Is there anyone else who would like to address this commission uh on uh as a as a public hearing item on
the renewal of lease? If so, please come forward. Seeing anyone online, madam clerk? >> Okay. With that, Dr. Mr. Scott, I'm going to recognize you to close out the public commentary and then we will bring it back to the board for any final
comments. I know I know [Applause] >> please may recognize >> everyone and um I'm not sure how much more I can say. You you've heard a lot from me um the last few commission meetings, but I just want to say how overwhelmed and grateful I am for the
support that I received this evening, not only in person, but online through multiple email letters or messages that I'm sure you guys got today. And you know, what you're seeing is really the culmination of over 18 years of my work
at the clinic um way before you know you you guys were on the commission. Um so you know everything that you know that people have said this evening is is really um the type of care that that we give at this clinic. Um you are right
that there are other clinics in in the area. But I think access is more than just having a building. You know access is actually being integrated in a community and recognizing what the challenges are and the barriers are of the patient population that you serve.
And it's not just treating a symptom. And I kind of went through that at the last commission meeting about the difference with federally qualified health centers and what we do. And what we do is truly special because it is a similar demographic. But as someone
mentioned before, it is concierge medicine. And who better, you know, to give that type of care to than people who who most need it, you know, who are low income or who are uninsured or underinsured. you know, that's the patient population who really deserves
um the highest quality medical care. So, I guess I want to close and just say that I'm so grateful to all of the commissions um since I started at the clinic at 2007 um for giving me the opportunity to serve this community. Uh
you know, and I hope that I am able to continue um for as long as you'll have me uh with, you know, the renewal of the lease uh this evening. and uh you know, we'll see what happens in in five years. The auto renewal would be great, but I want to yeah, I want to just end on that and just you know, just thank you for
your continued support. Um and yeah, I hope you you vote to renew it. >> Thank you, Dr. Scott. Uh Mr. Vice Mayor, I know you want to say a couple words. >> Uh yes. Originally, I wasn't going to speak. Obviously, the overwhelming support speaks for itself, but I just
wanted to thank you uh Dr. Scott for your leadership. There's really nothing more important than health. So, I hope this renewal um renews your energy to uh continue to be a pillar of support and health in our community. So, thank you
very very much. >> Thank you, colleagues. Anyone else who' like to say anything or Good. >> Okay. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Dr. Scott, you've uh redefined pediatrician to the ages of 25 now. So,
>> thank you. Uh Dr. Just to close before we call the vote, I um first I want to recognize your partners in FIU and Baptist Health Systems and South Miami Hospital for, you know, being uh lynchpin supporters of the clinic and and bringing you to this community and
allowing you to do the work that you do in uh such a unique way, right? Um your story reminds me of the story of my first doctor who was both a genius and a very gifted practitioner. He's a legend in the cubing community, Dr. Augustine Castanos. got he's in the Nicholas
Children's Hall of Fame and uh you know the way I experienced medicine as a young child is probably I I just hearing the stories it reminds me of him and how he interacted as a constant clinician uh who cared about all the social determinants of health before that was really a thing that we talk about now
socially and I I can tell that you practice medicine in exactly the same way and and from my perspective as a lay person who's experienced care on that level and revered that love that person for the love of service he provided me as a very young person. Uh and in many
ways inspired me to be more than just an everyday person by his example as well and that interaction. I think what I've heard tonight just brings me back to that experience and the highest compliment I could pay you as a doctor to say that you're someone who reminds me of Dr. Costanos in my own experience.
And I think um uh this is more than just a clinic. And if we didn't know that the day we got elected here, we certainly appreciate it more fully. It's really a it's really a community center uh where people have access to all sorts of resources
uh where care is not just about the the health ailment but about uh making sure the person has access to opportunity and every service that they are entitled to receive u by virtue of being connected to this clinic. and and you do an
extraordinary job of of connecting people to resources and gratefully accepting resources and expanding the clinic's mission. And again, that's a credit to you and your partners for having the vision to create this space. Um, whatever space we give you is not enough in terms of the hearts and minds
that you touch every single day. Um, you know, uh, I think you fall in a long tradition of great female leaders in this community. I see Dr. Joyce Price on the phone. And certainly you're someone who's walking in her shoes and and filling that leadership need every day in our in the community. And again, Dr.
Anna Price, Gail Alexander, who we lost recently, you are helping to fill the void that they left that their their loss has really left behind this community. And so this to my mind, if I didn't appreciate before, it's a sacred space for a really very quickly changing community that increasingly feels in
some ways, as from what I hear, more disconnected from the future of South Miami. And so I today hopefully by today's action reaffirm that we are committed to this neighborhood and to this community and it being a vital part and a central part of what the future of South Miami uh will be in its greatest
glory for all of us. So thank you for being a a large part of not only our our today but of our future. And um I'm excited to finally vote on this so we can move on to some other items as well. But um just want to say thank you to you and your partners for the excellent care
and service you're providing. And again, tonight's testimony is just witness to all of that. With that, Madam Clerk, if we can call the role, please. >> Yes. Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bonich, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 5-0.
>> Thank you so much. [Applause] >> Okay. Uh, we've got I know we've got some members of the public here on two items. I think we can dispatch of one that's a public hearing item, which is item six. And then my intention is to go to items four and five.
>> Four and five. >> So we can u I know there's some residents and the applicant here on that item as well. I would ask for the celebrations on this item if we can take them outside the chamber just so we can move on to the balance of the business this evening as quickly as possible. So madam clerk, if you can call item six, please.
>> Item four. >> No, item six, please. >> Item six. Okay. Item six. An ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida approving the conveyance of property located at 6179 Southwest 62nd Terrace. Authorizing the manager to negotiate and execute an agreement for the conveyance, directing
the city manager as to the use of proceeds derived from the conveyance. >> Great. Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. Can you update us on the posture of the item if there's been any changes? >> Absolutely. Uh thank you, mayor. Uh the the item, you guys heard this on first reading about a month ago. Uh the
changes since that time were to remove at at your direction. we removed the uh direction to the city managers to how to apply those funds. Uh so there is uh that that is no longer here. And just to remind you uh the this is for the
greater of the offered purchase price and the appraised price. Uh and it is set forth right now to to convey the entire lot and a half that is the cities. Um and that's what's before you. >> Thank you colleagues. Any questions or
comments on the current post of the item? >> Okay. Um to the um possible purchaser. Any comments you'd like to add for the record? >> No. >> Okay. With that, we will open the public hearing on item six, which is an ordinance approving the conveyance of a
property located at 6179 Southwest 62nd Terrace. If there's any member of the public who'd like to come forward and address this item at this time, you are welcome to do so. If there's any member of the public who'd like to address this item online, please raise your virtual hand and we will recognize you uh so we
can hear your testimony. Okay, seeing no one in the chamber and no one online, we will close the public hearing. Uh colleagues, any final comments, Mr. City Attorney, Madam City Attorney, anything you need to add for the record? I see you. >> Okay, thank you. >> Seeing nothing on the Dis Madam clerk,
then if you can call the role, please. >> Can I get a motion? >> Sorry. All right. I need a motion to approve or or deny item six. Is there a motion? >> I'll move to approve. >> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> A motion by Commissioner Monich to approve and a second by the vice mayor. >> Okay. Madam clerk, now if you could call
the role, please. Thank you. >> Yes. Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Cayenne? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey? >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez? >> Yes. >> Item passes 5. >> Thank you so much. Did you move the item for the health? >> No,
>> we did not move the item for the health center. Okay, so we let's reconsider. Thank you. We've approved this item. >> Thank you very much. >> Uh we will reconsider item nine on an ordinance. >> Okay. >> All the kumbayan. We forgot to have a motion. >> I know. I was all of a sudden I was like wait a second. >> No, we did not. Who is there someone who'd like to move the adoption of
ordinance number nine? >> I'll move it. >> I'll second. >> Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Rodriguez. Thank you, Commissioner Bonich for that. And a second by Commissioner Bonich. Madame clerk, if we can now call the uh the role, please. >> Okay. Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Cayenne, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cory, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. That's pass. >> Talk about anticlimactic. There you go. Okay. >> Okay. Uh let's take items four and five. They are companion items. Uh uh madam clerk, if you can read the items and we'll hear the appropriate warnings from
the city attorney. >> Yes. Item four, a res of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida approving or denying a special exception application pursuant to section 20-8.7 of the city of South Mland development code for a large scale development
project for a mixed used medical office building with residential dwelling units known as Med Square on the entire city block located on the west side of Southwest 62nd Avenue between Southwest 68th Street and Southwest 69th Street.
Thank you. I read item five or no. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Um, no, let's let's read item five as well. So, we're gonna have a say the public hearing on both. >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Item five, a resolution of the mayor and city commission of the city of South, Florida, approving a development agreement with South Real Estate
Partners LLC for a mixeduse medical office building with residential dwellings units known as Mad Square on the entire city block located on the west side of Southwest 62nd Avenue between Southwest 68th Street and Southwest 69th Street pursuant to
section 20-8.7 of the land development code authorizing the city manager to execute development agreement. >> Thank you, madam clerk. Uh Mr. City attorney. Item four is quasi judicial. If you could provide us with the appropriate warning. >> Thank you, mayor. Uh items number four and five on your agenda. Seek approval
of companion items for a project known as Meds Square. The items involve a large-scale development special exception. That's item four. And a development agreement under section 20-8.7 of the city's land development code. That's item five. The first one, item four, the special exception is quasi judicial. The second item, the
resolution for the development agreement is not. It is legislative or at best a quasi legislative item. It is nevertheless a public hearing under the under uh section 20-8.7. The same public hearing can serve for both items if you'd like to hear them together. Uh so in an abundance of caution in order to afford the most due
process possible to all parties and without waving the city's position that the resolution and development agreement is in fact legislative in nature, the city will frame tonight's hearing within the city's quasi judicial procedures with respect to presentations by staff, the applicant public comment. Public hearing will include presentations by staff from the applicant and public
comment. The commission may ask any questions either before or after public comment is closed. Following public comment, the commission may deliberate on two items. The quasi judicial procedures require this commission to consider the evidence presented to it and bas base your decision on the applicable law and primarily on the evidence presented whether by the applicant, staff or members of the
public. The evidence considered must be substantial competent evidence. This means testimony or other evidence based on personal observation or relevant expert testimony that a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support a conclusion. It is not a popularity contest. It cannot be based solely on non-expert opinions, no matter how fervent those opinions might be. Anyone
who seeks to speak on the item should be given an opportunity to speak during the public comment portion of each hearing. If you intend to provide testimony as to this item, uh you should be sworn in before your testimony is taken. Please know if you do speak, you may be subject to cross-examination. If you refuse either to be cross-examined or to be sworn, your testimony will be considered
in that context and given its due weight. The general public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the commission to direct questions on their behalf to either staff or the applicant. At this time, anyone who wishes to speak should be sworn in. I'd ask that you please stand and raise your right hand if you plan on speaking.
Do you swear affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Madame Clerk, can you confirm compliance with the advertising and notice requirements for this hearing? >> Yes. And then the last item, uh, mayor, uh, vice mayor, commissioners, have any of you had any exparte communications
with the applicant or any member of the public, either for or against either of these two items? >> Let's just go left or right. >> Not that I'm aware of. >> No. Uh, my only communication was on a deferral request related to item five.
>> No. No. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. Okay. So, we will proceed uh initially with uh staff's presentation of the recommendation followed by uh presentation by the applicant and then we will open up the floor for public
remarks. So, that will be the sequence of events. Mr. >> Oh my god, I just blinked on your name. I'm sorry. Mark Alvarez. Thank you. >> Had a senior moment on TV. There we go. Thank you. I know it's been We've missed you around here. Sorry, Mark. It's good
to see you. Good evening. >> Thank you. Um, good good to be back here. Um, Mark Alvarez with the Cardino Group on behalf of the city planning staff. Um, we have reviewed this this pro this proposal. It's a large scale special exception. Um, we've reviewed it
for quite a number of iterations and um, we are here with our final review. It was the project was um did has some changes after the planning board I believe and um and we are analyzing it based on those those revisions.
Um so I do have a presentation I want to go through this a little bit uh because it's important I think that we go through this. We are this is really the first project that we're seeing with the TSDDD. So I do want to go through this more carefully because it's a code that we're not used to working with at this point. Um the location of this project
is an entire block. It's on the west side of southwest 62nd Avenue. Um it's it's a vacant block with the exception of two houses. There are six folios. Altogether it's 1.63 acres. Um the flume designation, the future land use map
designation is the transit supportive district uh develop I'm sorry, the transit supportive development uh area and the zoning designation is the transit supportive development district. Um the the TSDD as we call it uh had
subzones. This sub zone is called the TSNA or the transit supportive neighborhood area. It's the transitional sub zone. When we were spending a year writing the TSDDD, we decided that the all along the edge of the downtown, we would have a transitional zoning for
those for those blocks. And this is in one of those blocks. Um the neighborhood around it is um it is a transitional area. To the east of course um is 62nd Avenue and across the street would be right now Leap Park
Condominiums, but it is also zoned as TSDD for a higher development area. To the north is um is the is a lowcale commercial the ne it's zoned neighborhood residential. It's where the newspaper uh building is and several
other buildings going north along there. Um to the south is also a half vacant parcel. Uh and to the south of that parcel is the is a four-story office building. And then to the west, and that's what makes this a transitional area, we have a single family
neighborhood. So this is something we paid a lot of attention to and made some special regulations for when we were doing the zoning for the TSDD. Um, as far as compatibility, before getting into the actual regulations, one of the things that we had provided for
in the zoning was that all these all of these blocks on the edge would have a mixeduse building of whatever it was proposed, but along the last 75 ft facing the neighborhood, we would actually transition into a residential use, which would be townhouse use. So it
would transition not only in height and scale to but also in the use so that no one on the edge of the the downtowns would have to face commercial uses from their home. They would find they would face like uh residential uses that also
function because they're not apartments. They have their doors on the street. They have their driveways on the street or they can have their driveways in the rear too. But whatever it is, they are functioning like a single family home. they're just a little taller and they create that transition.
Excuse me. Um the um I'm going to go on with some of the regulations. One of the things I want to show actually and it's very hard to see. This is from the applicants um proposal. The first is the rendering I'm sorry on the the right is the rendering of the townhouse units.
They're two stories. Um they're they work sort of like duplexes with a entrance on the on the lower floor and a garage door on the lower floor. And then they they have the two stories above it. These are sort of connected and they're as proposed they are like duplexes with
some space in the middle of them in in between each of them. There are eight and they are under the density that will be required for what we have there. Well under the density. Um one of the things I wanted to show was to provide a sense of scale. It's a little hard to see, but when you look at the bottom picture,
you'll see the building that's being proposed and to its um south the the buildings as we go down 62nd Avenue, but behind it is it's just a sort of white block and it's very hard. But these are the buildings that when we look across
Sunset and even on Sunset, these are the buildings that we have that are part of our downtown. They're much higher. They're much bulkier. They're they're quite massive. They are two blocks away, but that's what we're trying to create some transitions to in the future. And this is the first block where we're
trying to where we we're using the code to do that. Um, I'm going to go. So, what we do when we when we analyze this, we go through the code section by section and we check each section to make sure that it's compliant. And the word consistency
means compliant. Um we have a a code and I told you we have different subd districts in the code and that sort of peach or salmon color. Um pink is all of the transitional areas. Those are the TSNA trans uh the transit support of
neighborhood areas. All of those are down to six stories. They are residential. Um what we have on this block is the block was split. We have the TSNA in the back or on the west side facing the neighborhood. And because of
62nd Avenue and facing something much more intense on the west side, we left that as a mixeduse area because we wanted mixed use on 62nd Avenue, but we wanted residential use immediately behind that. So that 62nd Court and the residents that are there face a
residential use that's much more in scale. So um as far as the uses goes, this is a permitted use. It's going to be a medical office. Um we look at it more simply as an office, but it is a medical office and in the code professional offices encompasses medical
offices as well. On the back on I'm sorry, I'm going to say on the west side of it where the town homes are. Um this again is entire is exactly what we wanted and this is consistent with the uses on the west side of the property. Um we have was proposed are eight town
homes and they are well they're at 14.6 actually we allow 14.68 units to the acre. Um and right now they are at 4.92. So they're well under the density the applicant has proposed having a little more space than we allow because they
were concerned about the transition. Um, as far as parking and loading, this is a a I understand it'll be a pediatric uh medical office and as a as a business matter and in their proforma, the um the
applicant has decided to provide much more parking than we require. So, we require um I'm going to go to this so I can read it better. Excuse me. We require 3003 spaces. We have a very uh conservative
parking requirement for the transor transit supportive downtown because it is transit supportive and walking walkable. Um but again their proformer show that they would need much more parking to make the building work well for medical offices and they're at 353
spaces. So we have it's well overparked. We have no problem with parking. Also on bicycle parking they have provided more than adequate bicycle parking. We would require 17 publicly accessible parking spaces or bicycle rack spaces and um
provided are 23. As you look at the drawing, those were located. We want those located where they're protected from the weather but still near a a doorway to the building and they are on the interior drive of the building. So when you look through the center in a in
a north south orientation, sort of the center there where it says uh it actually says bike spaces. um the the two areas where this blue rectangles around are where those are located. They are right near the sort of back door into the lobby. We also have the
delivery also located there. We also have the the uh car sharing and Uber Eats and all those deliveries are at the interior to the building so they wouldn't have to stop on the street and they are right near the lobby door. And finally, we do also have the trash pickup located interior to the building.
So, so on all on as far as the um parking and loading, we have uh everything that we had asked for in the code. Um we have a street hierarchy where we do different things based on what is going on in the street. And one of the things that we did in the TSDD
um as we went through this process, we wanted to have wider sidewalks. And so we created a requirement throughout the entire tsd, the whole downtown for dedicating five feet. We wanted dedications and not setbacks because we
don't want a hedge row in front of the building. We wanted an actual downtown where people walk up to the windows to the retail windows. They're they're walking right there. And still we wanted a very wide sidewalk without again without ever uh changing the curb line.
One of the things that we and in this in this project the proposal includes on the north and south sides of the building 68th street and 69th street they would provide that dedication of 5 ft on the west side on the neighborhood side it's not necessary because that's
not a tdd street on the um east side of it which is 62nd Avenue we it was really at staff's uh request that we did not want to accept a dedication And the reason for that is because that's a county road. If they dedicate the
property, it goes to the county and we lose control over what we want to do on the sidewalk, which is exactly what we don't want. So instead, we are accepting um an easement there. There are no encroachments, and with the easement, we can still ask for all the things that we
want on that sidewalk. So that's the one exception. Um we'll probably be doing that more consistent consistently on county and state roads. Um, the project more than meets the open space. It has more open space than is
required. It's it's linear open space because again, it's urban. We don't have plazas on this, but we have we have a requirement that we would accept linear open space. There are some little corners at at the corners of 62nd Avenue and 68 and 69th. There's notches.
They're just smaller spaces that help create a little more open space. They also work with the building because one of the things we had asked for, I'll get to that later, was to have a lot of movement in the surface of the building and not have big flat walls. So on on and there are more than enough trees
both for street trees and for the on-site trees and it includes both the townhouse and the the office building. Um trees will be spaced 25 ft apart. So again, all the requirements are met and actually this project has succeeded to some extent.
Um, as far as building height goes, the the building the larger the office building I should say is um is uh actually lower than is required. We allow six stories and we allow I cannot read it anymore. I just lost this
thing. Um, wait a minute. We require um, sorry, we require an 80 94t total maximum and this building comes in at 84t. So it is a little lower. is still six stories. Also on the townhouse side,
while we uh provide that those town houses could be three stories and 40 feet tall, these town houses are proposed at two stories and just under 20 19 ft 4 in. So again, it is actually smaller in every way and being uh
smaller, it has a little more capability for compatibility with the neighborhood behind it. And I the the map on the right of there is um is actually the height plan from the TSDDD. And again what you see is not only with the different sub areas, you see how the
height transitions and all those areas with that yellow cross-hatch on the light blue are the areas where we have the three-story town houses we had extra transition into the code. But these light blue areas are the six story. Um as far as the building location,
massing and form, again the the um the proposal is consistent with all of the requirements or exceeds exceeds some of them in other words does better than them. Um one thing I want to talk about though and it's where all the red boxes are is the um the incorporated in the
building masking in form. We have two floors on the top that are offices that are larger than our floor plate would allow um for a building in the TSDD. And I want to explain a little bit of that because one of the things and I know you are all here as we went through the code
we thought a lot about the size of buildings. We have a not on this block but we had a lot of high buildings that would be allowed in the tsd 14 and 18 story buildings and we were very aware of the concept of bulk of those buildings. So if they're that tall and
they're very large in width or or depth they become very unattractive. So we struggle with a lot of concepts about the frontages and how to you know whether we do birthday cakes. What we ended up coming up with was a floor plate maximum of 20,000 square feet.
when we were doing that and and part as we made these rules, we also decided that we would include a way around that with not going to a variance and that would be the waiver and I'm going to get to that in the next page. But the idea of the waiver was we recognized at that
time that that 20,000 square feet would not work for every site, particularly sites where there were some unusual circumstances either in the shape of the block or because on this block where we have a six-story limit and it's really it's it's a smaller block in that it has
to have town houses on one side of it. And so we have a relatively small building. So this is hard to read. Um sorry for the light type but I'll I'll go through this. Um we have a number of criteria to meet for a waiver. So the the applicant
has requested a waiver and the waiver that we used is not like a variance. It does not require a hardship. It requires um excuse me a practical difficulty. Practical difficulty means that there's something in the site that does cause a
difficulty, but we weigh we weigh it kind of to the b to balance the needs of the property so we have a viable development and balance the needs of the community and the the compatibility with the tsDD. So we have a few things that we had to look at um that the deviation
would be compatible with the tsd. We don't find that the building is really out of scale in having those two floors being the same as the floors under it. They're no larger than the garage parking under it. They're no larger than the first floor. It's just a six-story
building that's relatively well scaled. Um and as such, we we really meet the intent and the character of the TSTD. Um we also find that there's no substantial detriment to the surrounding area.
Again, the applicant has provided shadow studies. There are no shadow impacts. We have a building that's lower than it needs to be already in the lowest transitional area for the TSDD. Um, it's not a large building. It doesn't go through for the whole property. In fact,
there's the town houses could have been a little shorter, but this property is is more constrained on just what it needs to have. And it simply makes sense if we broke up. I'm gonna actually go back, I think, to uh yeah, I mean, if we were to break up the
the top um the top diagram, the top elevation is the the front of the building. If we were to break that up into two pieces, which was what we would have to do to follow the code without the waiver, we would break that into two pieces about where the lobby goes up to the center. It just it doesn't provide
us with a building that's any better for compatibility purposes than to leave it connected. And of course, obviously, it's much more viable as a building where the elevator shafts come through the middle and we have a normal office building with an approximately 39,000
35,000 foot floor plate. So on the on that criteria again, we found that it meets the requirements of the waiver. Um it does do substantial justice to the property owner and the buildings around it. That's the whole idea of kind of weighing the benefits on both sides. We still have a building that's as
compatible as it would be if we followed the code exactly and we also provide a viable development for for an office use. Um lastly, there are unique unique circumstances and again I I mentioned
this really because this is the low the lowest height district for the TSD and this these blocks are fairly small to begin with relative to other blocks in the downtown but also they're constrained by the need to have the town houses on the back. We have a fairly
small floor plate to work with. So we recognized all this and again going back the whole idea of the waiver was because we recognized we in in working with an entire downtown we had to create rules that were fairly genetic genetic excuse
me generic and would uh impact properties differently. The waiver is is does require commission approval along with the t within with the um large scale special exception. So it is actually up to you in the end to take our recommendation or not.
And then finally uh architectural standards. Um we you know architecture is a big issue for us and we struggled a lot when we were writing the code because we did not want to have a vernacular. We did not want to say it
would be coastal or Mediterranean or we wanted something that was eclectic. But we had to then have a lot of difficulty writing the rules. So we ask we have rules that require a lot of movement in the building both vertically and
horizontally. And we find this in this building. You see there's the materiality, the use of the screens on the garage, the fenistration and the way the windows are different. The top two floors kind of state what they are. The other floors have a difference. And then instead of going straight across, we add
all these material variations. And the building also moves slightly 3 feet in and out as it goes across the frontage. So we found this to be very satisfactory as far as the architectural standards go. I believe for leads they will be
applying for a leads uh designation as well. And then um finally we had a development review committee as well as we have we looked at traffic impacts. We had their traffic engineers impact statement or analysis I should say reviewed by the city's
engineer and we found no we had no problems with their methodologies or data that they used. I will want to mention always remember that we're in the trans transportation concurrency exception area. So we don't we look at the level of service we always measure
it but we're not we don't deny a uh any proposals because we exceed some level of service. Most of our rows are above capacity. In this case, there is um very there's nothing that goes over the
accepted level of service on 62nd Avenue or Sunset. They looked at six intersections. Um I think there's a little bit worse of a condition at the Sunset and 62nd and we already experienced delays there and some of that is from construction as
well. Um during the development review committee, we did come up with a few issues. We talked a lot and had them make some adjustments for the trash pickup. Um, that's more of an operational one and is included in the development agreement uh because we noted that the trash pickup would be
very near the the uh ramp to go upstairs with your cars. So, they will agree to uh not have that during business hours. And then lastly, we addressed the issue of the displaced parking spaces. Um, that's also in the development ordinance. I know that's an ordinance
that's still in process. We did address that with them and I think that's been incorporated. There's eight spaces that are lost. Um yes and um and we we did address that and again that is something in the development agreement because
it's not actually an ordinance yet. And with that um we do recommend it for all the reasons I said we think it's a very compatible project. It is one of the first projects in the T tsd that would seek approval. Um it's in the
transitional area. The application does everything that we wanted it to do in the transitional area. Town houses, the scaling, the massing, even the architectural treatment is is very uh contributes greatly to reducing the mass
of the building. So we do recommend approval. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Alvarez. Colleagues, any questions of Mr. Alvarez? Okay, you're recognized. seeing the issues that we've had in other buildings that are but residential
with garbage pickup. >> Yes. >> What are we looking at? Because I see you're saying outside of business hours, but we've got an issue on, you know, on 64th Street where the trash is being picked up at 5:00 in the morning and
it's a constant problem. So, does that get addressed specifically in the development agreement where it's saying when that trash will be picked up? Because we don't want to add another area where we continue to have that problem.
>> And before you answer, I I want to build on that question because it's exactly my only issue with uh the site plan that I see. Um I see the conflict >> where the upramp and where the trash and recycling enclosure is. And I just would
love to hear, Mr. Alers, whether there's not another more appropriate location for that enclosure to be located. And I was thinking specifically south of the loading area where there there are some tandem parking spaces located so that if
it's going to happen after hours or outside of business hours, it's happening at the center of the building. And that way the noise that is attendant with after hours pickup is not is happening within the structure and not impacting potentially
adjacent properties as a result. So just let some thoughts maybe that's a question we also have the uh the applicant address but wanted to get your perspective since it seems like it was discussed. >> Yeah. Anyone else have a question related to trash trash pickup? >> No. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Just to answer your uh at a staff level, we would I think that would be an improvement and we would have no problem with that. Uh it's really up to the applicant. And I do want to add one other thing that came up in the design the development review committee. The trash pickup for the town houses would
be the city and the trash pickup for the commercial building would be private provider. >> Okay. So I guess to the Apple, if you can if you can address that that concern, we would appreciate hearing more during the presentation. Any further questions for Mr. Alvarez? >> I do. >> You do? Yes, Commissioner uh GA, you're
recognized. >> Thanks. Thank you, Mayor. Um, we we you you specified that there was more SP uh parking spots that were being allocated more than requirement. What was that number again? >> Uh, I think it was 353. >> Now, um, leaving the parking I'm
assuming it's coming down off off the south side of the building. >> It come either side. >> So, you go on the other side, >> right? The aisle goes through the building. >> Goes all the way through. >> Yeah. um during and this is all mostly offices. So we'll see an abundance of traffic morning and afternoon.
What can we do to minimize the traffic allocation moving inside the inside the residential neighborhood so we can force more of it down 62nd Avenue and away from the residential area. Is that something that is feasible?
Um, we anticipate that of course most of it will come from 62nd from the east side that neighborhood traffic. >> So, Mr. Roberts, I think just to build on the commissioner's question, >> for example, um, in terms of the treatment of the curb on 69th Street and
on 70th, right? Can we is there are there some design features that can be incorporated to force a right turn egress uh onto 68th only and a left turn egress onto 69th Street only exiting the property for example
>> again that that could be done we would consider an improvement and my second sentence was about the necking down of the >> necking down the street provide that announcement that you're coming into a neighborhood >> yeah we can have the uh the ownership uh just look at that particular aspect I really don't want to have calls with
abundance of traffic going in through the neighborhood. I know it's going to get increased a little bit, but uh we we we should try to minimize that as much as we can in the residential area. >> Okay, >> further questions of M. Alver. Yes, ma'am. You're recognized. >> Building on what Commissioner Kaya just
said, we need to also keep in mind 68th Street is really one of the only ones that allows us to go through. Am I correct? If you're on 62nd, you can turn left onto 68th Street. If not, you're stuck all the way to 64.
So, that acts now as kind of a relief valve for 64th Street. So, I I don't see how we, you know, we we can't make it so you can't go into that neighborhood. I I understand what you're saying, Commissioner Kay, saying when you're leaving the garage, you can only turn,
you know, right this way and left that way. But we need to keep in mind that people coming from 62nd Avenue still need to get through there. >> Yeah. I don't and I what I was suggesting by way of a design feature is would that movement wouldn't be impaired. But what you would have is
that crosssection could have um like a design element that would make the left turn not possible or certainly have signage saying that eress from the building on the 68th is right turn only. >> Yeah. Right. Exactly. >> Further questions Mr. Mr. Alvarez or do we want to hear from the applicant?
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Alvarez. >> Um, is council presenting for the applicant or >> Good evening, sir. >> Good evening, mayor, commissioners. [Music] Good evening once again. Alejandra
Adios, office at 701 Brickl Avenue. I'm joined this evening by my colleague Alexandria San Roman as well as the project architect Evo Fernandez from Modus Architects and our traffic engineers from David Plameumber and Associates. We're also joined by project principal Alberto Perez and we are here
to answer any questions you may have. We're grateful for the opportunity to be before you this evening and excited to be bringing this transformational project before this commission. We're also thankful to have staff's favorable recommendation of this proposal as well as recommendations of approval from the
design review board and planning board. The subject property encompasses an entire city block between Southwest 68th Street to the north, southwest 69th Street to the south, Southwest 62nd Avenue to the east, and Southwest 62nd Court to the west. and comprises
approximately 1.63 acres. The property fronts on Southwest 62nd Avenue, a major city thoroughfare, and is generally unimproved with two existing residential structures situated on six contiguous parcels. A residential subdivision is situated to
the west of the property with existing four-story and sevenstory offices located to the south as you head towards South Miami Hospital. Larkin Hospital is also located to the east of property across Southwest 62nd Avenue. As such, the property is situated within close
proximity of major healthcare, employment centers, office, and residential uses varying from low to high densities. As referenced by Mr. Alvarez. The property was recently included as part of the significant city initiated future land use map and zoning atlas amendments
which redesated the property as transit supportive development district the TSDD. The subject property of this application is within the transit supportive development area on the eastern part of the block and the transit neighborhood supportive area on the western part of the block. The
transit supportive development area allows for a maximum density of 150 dwelling units per acre and a maximum height of six stories 84 feet. The transit neighborhood supportive area allows for a maximum density of 100 dwelling units per acre and a maximum
height of three stories 40t. So to put that into context, if this was a residential development, you would have an approximate unit count of up to 211 dwelling units on the site. Additionally, the TSTD on this property serves to further restrict height and density, requiring a residential buffer
facing the neighborhood across from Southwest 62nd Court. In connection with the proposed development program and the special exception request, the applicant is proposing the development of a first class horizontal mixeduse development
encompassing a six-story 81,910 square foot medical office building fronting on Southwest 62nd Avenue. This is an as of right use permitted under the transit supportive development area. The applicant is also proposing eight
two-story town home units on the western perimeter of the property line fronting on six southwest 62nd court which will serve to provide appropriate height transition and buffer between the medical office building and the residential homes across southwest 62nd court. It should be noted that when the
project was first proposed, uh, the development program provided for 12 three-story town homes and the applicant scale back that proposal in an effort to strengthen the character and quiet enjoyment of the neighborhood. Now, the proposed medical office building will encompass an internalized
dedicated patient dropoff area to prevent any offloading or disruptions to the city street networks. All uses will be internalized and we are certainly open uh to relocating that garbage collection pickup area as referenced for the townhouse product city garbage
collection will be undertaken for this particular office that will be a private provider and the management company has ensured that those collections will occur after business hours. The medical office building will include four levels of parking garage, a project
element that is in the best interest of the city, and office floor plates on the fifth and sixth floors. So, it'll have on the fifth and sixth floors, two office floor plates of 35,475 square ft. Additionally, the overall project will also provide off- streetet
parking spaces well in excess of the city code. 200 excess parking spaces uh to be exact where 353 spaces are provided where 153 are required. Um this is one of those rare cases where instead
of further enriching himself by creating more profitable square footage uh based on 200 parking spaces that can possibly be another floor of usable square footage for medical office spaces. This particular applicant has chosen to
provide excess parking based on the demand and his expertise of medical office product um to really provide 200 parking spaces that cannot be monetized. Anyone here knows that parking spaces are very costly to develop and yet there's no profit generated from that.
So again, that's this is a rare instance where he's foregoing an entirely uh another opportunity to build a floor of profitable space and square footage to provide that excess parking. The project will also provide ample lush
landscaping to not only complement the proposed project, but to further enhance the surrounding area and provide sufficient buffers where appropriate. As referenced and as part of the application process, the applicant conducted a traffic study to analyze existing and proposed impacts to the
area. As shown in the traffic study, the overall level of service for all intersections currently operate and will continue to operate within the city's adopted levels of standards. Furthermore, we are recommending signal timing modifications on the northbound and southbound approaches of the
Southwest 62nd Avenue and Southwest 72nd Street intersections. And lastly, this project is uniquely situated in an area currently served by public transportation. More specifically, it's located within walking distance of South Miami Metro Rail Station. The project's also located in an area with ample
sidewalks, crosswalks, shared roadways, facilitating pedestrian activity to nearby retail, restaurants, and recreational facilities. Now, the mission of the applicant in this project is to bring life to healthcare real estate by enhancing the patient and tenant experience. From the
quality of care received to the work environment to the common gathering spaces, this applicant has built worldclass medical office spaces incorporating beautiful architecture, urban design elements, and high-end materials such as these illustrated here with several more in the pipeline.
Medsquare Health located near Baptist Hospital on Southwest 87th Avenue is considered to be one of the largest non-hosp affiliated medical office buildings in the tri county area. Similar to the built environment, the proposed Med Square South Miami project will continue its mission to transform
and enhance this community. On the screen are a few renderings of the proposed project. Uh as referenced by Mr. As we can see here, the building and the movement of the building, the fenestration of the architecture. We have renderings here of the buffering
scaling down to the town home product. Some of the amenities of the town home product as well as the rear of the medical office building. This is a view from 62nd Avenue of the front of the medical office building.
And these are some of the corner accents and pedestrian nooks that are provided at each intersection uh along Southwest 62nd Avenue. Now, as S stated in their favorable recommendation, the proposed application
is consistent with the TSDD requirements and the vision and adheres to the intent of the zoning district. Additionally, and as staff has recognized, office development of six stories or less in combination with the 75 ft residential buffer condition
that's required requires larger horizontal dimensions including floor plate area. As such, a waiver is being requested as it relates to the maximum floor plates allowed above the fourth floor. Uh I would remind you again that the first floor four floors are parking.
So the fifth and sixth floors are the ones that are going to be 35,475 square feet. Pursuant to this request, staff has determined that the waiver does not contribute to or cause a building that is out of scale division of the TSC. The
office floor plates are no larger than the garage and ground floor plates below and serves to provide the surplus parking through floors one through four, which provides a benefit and necessitates consolidation of office space on two of the same floor plates as the garage floor plates below. As stated
in the May 2025 staff review comments, this application adheres to the intent of the TSDD zoning district with a proposal that meets all requirements and are supportive of the required waiverss. >> With that, I thank you for your time and
request your approval of this item, the first TSDD project in the city. Along with the design professionals present this evening, I'm available to answer any questions you may have. >> Thank you, Mr. Harris. Uh colleagues, questions again. Uh, no. There's plenty. We We'll have plenty comments. Uh,
Commissioner, you're recognized. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, on those nooks that you have on the ground level, I see you have benches. Uh, you need to ensure that those benches are not benches you can lay down on.
>> So that we don't encourage people sleeping. >> They'll have the circular uh balls on them. >> Okay. Thank you. Further comments or questions? Yes, sir. You're recognized. >> Hi. I did uh thank you for your presentation. By the way, I did see in
some of the plans some tree movement and removal. I was just wondering if you could go over that a little bit more because I did notice it was very uh it was very interesting. So, if you could just share for the public >> on the landscaping plan. >> Yes.
So the goal here, you know, as as with all of the other medical office projects this applicant has been developed is to preserve and enhance the landscape to the best way possible. Um, when they actually developed the Kendall Medsquare project, they created an
on-site nursery to preserve as many trees as could be preserved at the time and then reimplemented them into the project. So the commitment here is to preserve whatever we can preserve on site, implement that throughout the uh the site. But again, this is a urban
linear type landscape project. So along 62nd Avenue, there will be, you know, shade trees and cover provided and then significant landscaping as we get to the residential component and those town home product types. >> Okay. Sure. Thank you. Sure. or just on
that point because the illustration in front of us kind of led me to conclude maybe something else. Are those palm trees on 62nd and on the edge of uh the swale on the Western Avenue? I forget the number.
>> 62nd Court. >> 62nd Court. Thank you. because I I could not find um I don't think there was a landscape plan sheet in our in our submitt. >> Yes, sir. >> I know in the uh in the in the Kendall the Kendall uh 87th Avenue, I pass by it
every day. It's a beautiful product, but it has oaks. It's beautiful. >> You know, I think that's something what we want to conserve and understand is that we want mature trees here. So, you know, I think that that's what what the question is. >> That's what Yeah, that's the intent of the question. the product on 87th Avenue is really >> we're transplanting all the live oaks
and then these are not palm trees from what I'm seeing here. We have green buttonwood trees uh Bahama excuse me for this one tabooa trees bridal veil trees and u orange geer trees.
>> Yeah. So I just on the species I you know again if you can work with staff to figure out if we can do some substitutions that provide a little bit more canopy. What we're really trying to do along the rideway is make sure it's shaded, so it's walkable. And I love Bridleville trees, but they're the canopy is very porous, so it provides
very little relief from the sun. And so as you think about those edges, particularly along the rights away, you know, u I don't know if Mark if you can work with them on modifying the selections and making sure that they're provide a denser canopy so we actually shade the sidewalks. Certainly that
would be my preference if um staff would if my colleagues agree with the modified condition. >> I most certainly will. >> Okay. >> Further questions? >> No, just the comment as far as I agree with you on the trees. Um and again the product that on as Commissioner Ka was
saying the product on 87th Avenue has extensive amount of canopy and the trees, you know, actually what I like about it is that the trees have grown to where they just about almost cover the the building. Colleagues, we I know we talked well, we
have the applicant here. We had suggested the design elements on 68th and 69th. Any objection to trying to make those single turn movements uh on the northern section, a right turn movement on the southern section >> limiting to a left turn out? >> It was actually a comment that was
brought up during the planning board. Okay. Uh >> review phase by one of the neighbors. >> Um we actually considered it to be a good idea. So if there's something that we can work through and try to get there, we're absolutely okay. Mr. City attorney, I don't know if we need to modify a condition to reflect that. That would be helpful. And then on on the trash,
>> yeah, >> to the city attorney, um I know per our code because we've all dealt with this issue next to the family dollar uh or at the family dollar uh and the poor neighbor who suffers through the uh pickups at 5:00 in the morning. I know
our commercial code with the commercial haulers limits their hours to a prescribed time. Do you know what that is? I believe it's se 7 7 am I believe >> it's the earliest and what time but what time is the latest time that they pick up >> uh I'll look it up >> so because why why I appreciate the
profer to do it after hours I we may have a limitation of code on what our haulers are allowed to do per their licensing requirements so I don't want to set us up to authorize that and put them in conflict with that code provision they don't follow it yeah
and while we're waiting for that answer. Just to understand, is it is it possible to relocate the the trash collection area from the northern edge to somewhere closer to the center of the uh of the project? >> 700 p.m. >> 7 p.m.
>> 7 p.m. 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. That's their window. >> Okay. >> Right. >> There you have a question. >> Sure. You have a question? >> Yeah. To you. Um to the mayor, why why in the middle of You don't think in the
middle will cause more congestion in the building and rather than leaving it where it is as long as it's done >> at a at a good hour rather than >> I think the question is, you know, if we're doing it outside of business hours, typically their their use is going to operate, I would imagine, 8 to
six typically. And yeah, if you want to come up Yeah. Good evening, Alberto Perez, uh, owner, uh, developer. Um, usually our our hours operation for these medical buildings
are typically between 7:30 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. thereabouts. Part of our part of our rules and regulations for all our buildings, we we try to set the hours of pickup as best we can. Uh, in this case in particular, since it could be a private provider, we could probably
control it a little bit more. Sometimes when at the at the mercy of of of the city uh vendor etc. It's tough to to control it. But in this case in particular since we are in charge of who we could bring on we have a little bit more control of that and again it will
be part of our our rules and regulation. Regarding the comment regarding shifting it more into the center of the building. Ultimately, we don't want it to be lined up with the back entry of the main lobby, but in working with our architect, Evo Fernandez at Modus, there's there could be a way for us to
shift that even more internalized to the building. As as you know, all the services are internalized currently. Uh, but we feel based on what we're working on now that there's a very high probability that we could shift it a little bit more internalized uh at your request and and and it still work with
with the overall flow of that. Yeah, I obviously don't want people walking out the rear lobby and to the uh to the trash reception area, but if it's if it's I see you have loading a little bit offset to the south, if it could be located, maybe you >> switch some of the tandem parking for, you know, for that area, it possibly
could work. My only concern I I would leave it exactly where it was, but since we do have a very limited window where we are trying to encourage the commercial hollers to pick up and drop off, you know, if they were to come at 8:00, you know, the closer it is to the edge, the more likely the audible the
beeping is going to be when they back out of the building. If it's in the center or close to the center of the building, the building serves to buffer the noise and has less of an impact on the So, that that was my thinking. If it can be accommodated, I think it would be a great modification. And obviously we don't want to draw destroy the aesthetic >> of the building,
>> but Yes, sir. >> Yeah, Mr. President, we only have two vendors currently right now in the city >> uh for trash hauling. >> Um it hasn't been the best environments to figure out timing with that. So I would ask your operations team to just look into it. Yeah, >> let's come up with a plan that'll be
sufficed on on on what we're looking at right now. We feel that it is doable. So, so most definitely we will look at that and we'll we'll come up with a with a solution that that definitely works for for everyone. >> That's why one clarification, it's it's
6 p.m. I misread this. >> Okay. So, even Yeah. So, again, >> and morning time is what time? >> 7 a.m. 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. >> Yeah. I I mean, ultimately early morning pickup is ideal because that's the time that our city pickups are doing it at 7
in the morning. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, for us it it works. The earlier the better. So that's why I think based on what we're seeing right now that there is I feel a solution to be able to to centralize a little bit more and then compensate for having an
earlier. >> Yeah. And and we understand as well it's not we've have this issue with commercial lenders that are trying to do the right thing, but at the end of the day they're subject to the scheduling of the commercial hauler. >> There's two in particular that dominate the market and so sometimes it's hard to push and pull and get them to actually cooperate. So, we find ourselves in the
situation right now with a building that's on on the edge of a of a literally adjacent to a single family home. Sir, you're recognized. >> Um, another question I had on the duplexes on the backside. Um, are you making a condo association with the eight units in the rear? The reason I
was asking is right now it was stated through Mr. Alvarez that our city would pick it up. Currently, the code states that we only have three or less. Now we are in in the process of changing that and looking into it but what is the process that you guys have on the condo
side. Uh how is it being set up >> that will dictate commercial residential on our side on the code? So I just wanted to ask that. >> So so the intention is for the homes not to be a condominium. Uh there will be fe simple lots.
>> Uh that being said they they will have some shared common elements. So we need to come up with the right vehicle through a simplified HOA if you will. But again it it will not be a condominium. The intent here is for it to be a fe simple lot.
But once again because of the some of the shared elements i.e. the shared wall etc. They will have to come up with some type of vehicle to address the uh the common elements for for the homes. >> I don't foresee this being a future I mean a problem in the future. It currently right now it is. So, um,
>> it may not be. I mean, I think what he's describing is a series of duplexes with a with a with a with a party wall agreement. So, I don't think it would trip our our standard even today, Commissioner Gay. But, honestly, if that's the way they're going to structure, we can I would just encourage you to have a conversation
>> with the city attorney about that. We certainly are happy to provide the service and if we can get you to the right result from a structure perspective so you can meet today's standard, depending on where we land on that other conversation, it's not an issue. Okay, >> perfect. Thank you. >> Um, further questions? I I only have one
other question and that is related to the town homes. What's the timing and to staff? Do we have any conditions related to the timing of the delivery of those units? To the to the sponsor, what's your intention as to when those would be developed? Would they be developed concurrently with the building?
Obviously, they provide a very important transition element. I think we'd prefer to have it delivered uh concurrently as opposed to separately over time. What what's the intention there? >> So, as part of our development agreement, we do have a timeline. Um I believe that the entire project needs to
be delivered. I believe it's 48 months from approval, I believe. So, so ultimately in a perfect world to build everything simultaneously is our intent. Obviously, the the the building will take longer to build uh versus the
homes. Um but the intent would be to to start everything most definitely the civil aspect of it will start simultaneously. The vertical construction the intent here would would be to to hopefully start both at the same time. Uh but again that being the case if they start at the same time the
homes will most definitely be be delivered and and and and built and delivered first. Uh >> I'm not worried about I'm not worried about the start of construction. I'm aware of the timing of the completion of the medical office building which will certainly take more time and the
delivery of the homes you know let's just say at CO or TCO of the building itself. So I don't know if there's if we've had any conversations about that timing issue and or how it's reflected in the DA. We have not. It's not addressed in the DA, but if if you wanted uh and if the applicant is is
open to it, we could say that the uh the CO for the the medical building will not be issued until >> Yeah, I don't I mean I again that that puts them in a very hard position. I I but I do I think there should be and and maybe we can delegate this authority. >> There's no separate timeline for the
town houses. There is no SE. So they but they but but so but all we have is a time a timeline within which the improvements have to be >> constructed. >> Constructed. >> Yeah. We also have timelines for when they have to be >> what happens to their Okay. Well, what happens there? Let's assume and again for me the worst case would be the
medical office building gets built and the towns never get built. >> So we have the single family neighbors staring at the back, you know, undeveloped lot for the first 75 ft in the back of the parking garage. What h so if they don't meet the timeline with
respect to the town homes what? >> Yeah the it is not set up to permit these separately. >> Okay. So they are being permitted together. >> That is the way it is set up in the development agreement. >> Okay. >> Yeah. It's one project >> but permitting is different than construction. So if the building takes two years to get built and then there's
another two years until the town houses get built. They're still under the 40 the 48 month. >> It would still be under the months >> which is what the mayor doesn't want. >> Right. >> And I agree with him by the way. So we could structure it and say that they they I mean it depends how uh severe you
you do you want it permitted permitting of the town houses prior to the medical office building >> and completion prior to the medical office building. >> I don't think be I think I would I would like them to be concurrent or within a very narrow window of time >> 180 days
>> or or 12 months. Right. So it's not a condition that's remains open forever. Um, you know, again, I don't like it's it's just a I think an important if we're going to provide for the transition, >> they should the the buildings that
provide the transition should exist, right? So, >> again, I I understand that complicates a for sale execution because you probably want to pre-ell those, but I would say to you if I had to spec build eight town homes anywhere, I would want to do them here in South Miami because I think
there's a very robust market for the product. Um I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on that and on the >> I think one of the big considerations is you know these are two different product types correct um we'll need a staging area to develop the medical office building at a time and then because the
town homes are they're able to be developed much quicker right the intent was always to have that as a staging area then possibly >> and we I would prefer that over staging on the rightway for example so what would you suggest in terms of a nexus between the delivery of the building and
the delivery of the town homes as a condition >> or what's in the agreement today because I don't I don't I don't remember that detail. >> Yeah, I think what's in the agreement today is the final finalized product being 48 months. >> That's right. >> Right. But there's no timeline as to when each kicks off.
>> So I think that what's critical for us is just that there are separate processes and separate timelines to be able to do that. If we can come to an agreement as to what's an acceptable time frame for each one to get permitted, u maybe there's a staggered start to the town homes because they can be built faster. We're certainly open to
that. But we just need to also have some flexibility to be able to stage and build a medical office building. >> Certainly respect that request. I think it's ultimately beneficial to everyone to allow you guys to stage on that portion of the lot. Um let's let's we
have public comment still. It's a public hearing item. Let's hear from the public on the application, but I think we should spend some time thinking about how we tie those two together. Okay. Uh, further questions before we let the applicant sit down? None. Okay. Thank you for the presentation. Uh, this is a
public hearing item. We'd like to invite any member of the public who'd like to address this commission on items four and five. Please come forward at this time. Mayor Solder, you're recognized. Philips Stoddard 6820 Southwest 64 Court. Boy, you guys are reminding me
how much work it is being a a member of this commission and mayor and staff and attorneys. Thank you all for the great job you're doing. Um, first I want to say this project's a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Um, it's come it's come a ways it's
pretty good overall. Um, I do have a couple of concerns I wanted to share with you. Um, one is is that you talked about the how to modify road access and so forth. 69 because 60 sorry 70th
Street is allowed eastbound egress only, not ingress. There's a reason for that. Somebody went through there once and crashed into the house at the end and caught fire and burned to death in front of the neighbors. And uh so they they made it one way so that wouldn't happen again.
And it's been pretty effective at keeping it from happening. But it means that everybody who gets access to that neighborhood goes into 69th Street. So please don't restrict the 69th Street ingress to the neighborhood. Um
otherwise you you you block folks off. >> We're thinking about doing like timed you know what I was envisioning was a timed sorry mayor I intervened. >> Sorry. Go ahead. um a timed area where >> if you could stop them if you could stop Mr. Stoddard's time please. >> It's all right. >> That's okay.
>> Well, you give me an extra minute. >> Well, I think what what I was thinking in mind is having timed you know whether it's 7 to 9 and you know 3 to 5 where you're going to see an abundance of 353 allocated cars right around that same
time leaving an in ingress at egress. So it's it's going to be it's going to get complicated. So I I think we just have to figure that out. >> That's all I was saying about that. >> Yeah. Medical offices is actually busy all day long as opposed to having a specific flood time. And it's a sort of
how it's different from residential. >> Um so in my experience, whenever we've done this, put these restrictions in, you know, the cops wind up ticketing the wrong people essentially. Um and it causes problems for the neighborhood.
you know, uh they you know, people coming in to do residential care and so forth are often getting tickets rather than the people who are cutting through the neighborhood. So that I mean I sat up where you were for 10 years and this is something we struggled with. So that's
something I've got my eye on. Um and I'm just I'll be back and bugging you guys if you screw up my neighborhood. Um, second thing is I'll be 90 years old, 90 years old before those oak trees 25 ft on the center are shading the sidewalk
in 62nd Avenue. Got to do a better job. And mayor, thank you for for flagging that one. Um, geiggers, tabulas, and green buttonwoods are not shade trees. They're pretty u but they're not shade trees. So, um, the applicant really does
need to do a better job of getting shade. And I think what I'd like to see is an arborist give projections. Um, you know, I don't know that you have any anybody on staff who can really who can really do this, but I think you need professional assistance to figure out what's the time frame for getting shade
over 62nd Avenue. And you know, the the um the analysis has talked about access walking access to Metro Rail. And it really is important um you know to have good walking access in 62nd a um and the
shade is such an important feature of that and 62nd Avenue right now has miserable shade. Um that site does have two specimen grade oak trees. Um I know this because I I practice fly casting on that lot and I have to say what's planned is a higher and better use but I
do I will miss the spot. Um but really um I think that's those are the main things. And if you want to figure out how to keep those town houses from not getting built, why don't you you uh make the CO on the medical office building contingent on having started the townous? >> Thank you for the suggestion. >> Thank you for your time.
>> Okay. >> Okay. Anyone else who'd like to address the commission on this item, please? Miss Fischer, you're recognized. >> Thank you very much. I agree with former mayor Stoddard that you all do a beautiful job. >> Thank you. >> Um I don't know if the city still has an
arborist on staff, >> but I have a few environmental concerns that I would like to bring forward about this project. Uh, for one thing, when I saw the picture up on the screen there,
I saw four beautiful flourishing green trees that have been there for decades and decades. I don't know how long, but I would like to have an for the city to have an arborist take a look at those trees and evaluate them and see if they
are specimen trees or not and are they worthy of being lo relocated to another uh spot somewhere in the city where they might be of great value. M fisher, I think to your point, um the applicant is proposing to relocate them on the site
already. And so I'm happy to have maybe Mr. Alberts can share with you the plan so you can see what their plan is to preserve those very trees that you're concerned about. >> They want to relocate them on the site. >> Yes. So they would take them from the center to the edge and there's a there's an illustration that really characterizes that perfectly. I don't
know, Mark, if you can share it with her, I'd appreciate it. >> Okay. Thank you very much. I hope there's enough space for the roots wherever they want to relocate them and for the trees to flourish and continue to be as beautiful as they are
now. So that's great. Thank you. Um then the other thing that I I want to say is that this many many decades ago this city was designated as a bird sanctuary. And when um Sally Phillips was mayor,
she sponsored an ordinance for to have bird safety glass for any new uh projects or any new um buildings whatsoever, even homes. And uh somehow or other, the next commission uh after
her, they they didn't like it. They didn't want it for some reason. I think maybe they didn't want to burden the developer with that. And um I would like to see some kind of bird safety window
treatment. Doesn't have to be safety glass. It can be mini blinds that are just opened in such a way that it looks like there are lines across the glass so that birds won't fly into the glass. Or there could be some kind of
ornamental screening on the outside of the glass so that the birds would see some kind of lines going across the glass. I would really hate to see just all this clear glass being put up and and then see the corpses of birds laying
around the building. It's really an issue. And being this is a designated bird sanctuary, let's live up to that title, please. So, and then the the other issue is not
environmental, but it's just a that I have is just an issue dealing with the parking spaces. I want all of you to make sure there are plenty of parking spaces uh for all of the uses that are going to take place in this project. Uh I
personally have to take someone to a med medical appointments very often because that person if he goes by himself he often times cannot find a parking space. Uh I that's the way it is in the parking
uh garage for the 7000 building and it's like that all over the place. It's a real problem. So, just please make sure there's a very generous amount of parking with the end product that the city is going to get. And that's it.
Thank you very much for your consideration of my remarks. >> Thank you, Miss Fischer. Anyone else who'd like to address this commission as part of the public hearing? If there's any member of the public online who'd like to speak, please feel free to raise your virtual hand. Seeing no one else online and no one
else in the chamber, we'll close the public hearing. Um colleagues um further items for discussion just a miss Fischer on the parking 200 plus surplus parking spaces above the code requirement and I will share my
personal experience as a patient of a dentist who is at uh Mr. Perez's project in south of the Baptist campus which I would say is about as close to the current condition as we could have. Uh it's a building that transitions from
obviously the very intense campus to uh you know a transitional building and then into a neighborhood that also has the Riviera Day School just down the street. And all the movement is internalized, right? All the and and you know I've never parked my car there. I typically just leave with the valet
because they have a valet service. But it's um you know I think this project probably even exceeds I'll let the developer speak to that the parking standard there. Um I think it works really well with that neighborhood. So excited about this opportunity. >> Yes, colleagues. Yes, sir. >> Sorry, mayor. Can I clarify just a
couple things? Please, if you can. >> Uh yes. So, the the resolution um the architecture condition of the resolution, which is uh condition 28, which requires substantial compliance with the plans. There was um when this
project was first proposed, there was a one alternative that dealt with access to the town houses instead of from the uh from the west from uh 68th Court. It would come from the center of the site
um and parking in the rear. They did not present that tonight because that's the plan had changed, but there is a possibility and they have raised the possibility the potential for actually reinccorporating that into >> doing something more of a a traditional neighborhood design. >> Right. So >> yeah.
>> Yeah. Which which uh the design review board was in favor of which I believe Mr. Alvarez was in favor of. Uh so to the extent that I just want to carve out space for them to be able to do that even though we're providing uh substantial compliance with plans. >> Colleague, any any objections to that modification? I have none. So, okay. I
think I think we're fine. >> And then to the extent that that involves, you know, modifications to the to to the townhouse to the town houses. Okay. >> No, no objections either. >> The only other thing is in the in the uh development agreement, um there are eight parking spaces on 68th and 69th
Court that are on street parking spaces that are currently there. Uh what we have negotiated with them is how to address those parking spaces. Uh there's uh we've provided kind of a two two potential alternatives for them. Uh number one, uh it would be essentially
what is what amounts to a $12,800 payment. Um that would be for uh removal of those eight spaces. Four of those spaces are actually uh they they conflict with their um >> Yeah. So, Mr. Secret, if you could if you could before you get to the second point, you can clarify for this board
how how the number was arrived at. >> Absolutely. So the that that number has there are eight parking spaces but four of those spaces have to do with they directly conflict with the ingress and eress to the site. >> Understand but the number 500 I will
okay no no just if the actual >> Got it because the prior number was substantially higher. >> Correct. Okay. >> Correct. So, uh the our our parking director slash finance minister uh >> finance director, minister of parking
and parking enforcement >> or parking zar. Uh he he uh relooked at the math and uh looked at that area uh of parking, the Larkin area of parking, and did uh factored in all of the revenue from all those spaces, divided it by all those spaces, and determined
that the actual impact of each of those spaces was $25,700. >> Okay. Okay. Um actually 27 $25,75 very important the $5 uh those um we applied that against four spaces because
we figured they have their ingress and eress plus uh there are uh modifications to that right of way that are that are favored to to make it more look look more like a residential street as we go further west. Mr. Alver touched on that. So, for four spaces, that adds up to $12,800.
Um, $820. Um, so that's choice one. Choice two, which is actually favored by our parkings are uh is that they would provide eight of the spaces on the ground floor inside the garage as public parking spaces, which might work just
just as just fine. uh sub and we would uh put up our signage and use them just as on street parking space and put some signage on the outside of the building to say that there's there's public parking inside the building. >> Okay, colleagues, any questions about that item? >> A question. >> Yes, sir.
>> What what is the parking? And this is to the developer. Um what is the parking situation inside? Is it all valet like the mayor gets where everywhere he goes or or is it paid by parking? Is it self parking? How does that work? By the way, I was
just kidding. >> No, no, I know that was it was >> I'm sure the valet opulence may be offered, but really it's uh self-p parking having the 353 parking spaces available. >> Self parking. >> So, what would be the use of getting
and it's free, I'm assuming to >> it's free. It's open to the >> So, what yeah, we it it doesn't make sense there, right? That's what I'm thinking here >> to they're not required to keep it free. uh they they they could charge it
someday. Uh so I think I think uh uh Mr. River was just trying to protect his eight spaces and provide that because other people in the area use that those spaces presently and he he predicts that they may be using it in the future. But you're right, to the extent that it's free, it's not much competition. The
other the other aspect of uh you know the $100,000 is you know speaking about 62nd Avenue and having the ability to create more of a canopy on 62nd Avenue. This could lie well with our tree fund where we can apply a lot of the trees
specifically on that canopy on 62nd on the median as we continue to get that a little bit more shaded the rest of our city as well. So just just an opinion there. I I and I I'll I'll just echo I agree with um I think we should just take the
cash payment. Um I I I we you know we we've been working on this revision for the for the parking removal ordinance. There was this let's make a deal provision that our city attorney included with development agreements. I don't like that which is why I've been working on a revision. The
we want I think we just want to have a clear standard. Uh part of the accommodation here was reflective of language and coral gables. Uh they have a similar removal provision but they do accommodate for the fact that you know lots should have access and so where the
removals in conjunction with providing access to a lot for future development they provide a credit and so that's how we kind of arrived at this four space credit for the two sides of um 68th and 69th. And um I I I think that's just we
should have a standard uh you know and I but I think and I think practically having eight eight off streetet spaces in the garage will be one confusing to the public and two won't generate any real revenue given that they're going to have surplus parking that folks can just
park in for free. So I I agree. Let's take the let's take the payment. >> All right. We can remove that from the development agreement. I I >> the direction >> that would be the direction again assuming the majority of the commission agrees >> that seem any objection on your part or
>> I mean I think what we had discussed was that those would be uh pay by phone decal parkings. Any people that park at the building that are not tenants of the building or visitors to the building would have their car towed as anyone else off the street. But for those
specific eight spaces, that would be paid by phone. That would be money that comes to the city. There's no joint shared agreement with the private developer. The city would make all of that profit. But, you know, to the extent that they're free parking spaces, yes, they're open to the pub. They're
open spaces. They're not open to the public. >> I just again I don't inviting non- guests onto your property. Something happens, someone, god forbid, is robbed, hurt, their car is broken into. I again, I don't want you I don't
want you invol I think we're kind of involving you into some potential litigation there and it creates some additional exposure. Again, I if it's something you are absolutely committed to, I mean, I I I could find myself supporting it. I just think it's blurs a lot of lines. I think the text provided
for an eitheror scenario. So >> I don't think we're married to one or the other. >> I I for one I'm not a fan of public parking inside their building. >> Okay. So I think that's unanimous. So let's I think let's if it's you know if it's up to us let's remove it
>> and let's just provide for the for the for the reduced payment. Okay. Further comments on the DA. Okay. timings on the the timing of the trash pickups. You said it was now 7 to six RR permitted hours.
>> Correct. >> I know their intention was to do it after hours. I don't know again I don't want to impose another condition on the property that is more ownorous than what the code already provides for. So I think if if uh Mr. President, if your intention is to have it serviced in the
morning as early as 7 so that they're cleared out before you know your your rush, uh certainly any time during that window is fine with us and complies with the currently uh our current standards. So do we need to have a condition with respect to
trash pickup hours? >> We already have it with the code. >> Yeah, with the code. Correct. Okay. So let's just leave it as is. Remove that. >> Okay. Um, we'll let them profer a modification if it's feasible ideally and anything else that we wanted to add
other than the modifications to selection of street trees that provide more shade and possibly adding some defensive design elements to force right turn and left turn egress movements only in their respective streets. Anything else?
>> There were two other issues you guys mentioned uh with the moving that solid waist storage to the center of the building. I said, "Yeah, let's see if they can proer an alternative." Right. Town houses. >> What's the last? >> I think uh the former mayor had if it's acceptable to Mr. Perez. I think if the
timing is one that we have, they have to have a building permit for the construction of the town homes approved by the time they ask for a TCO or CO for the medical office building. Does that work for you from a timing perspective? >> Well, I think it was all going to be permitted together anyway, right?
>> So, again, as stated earlier, there are two different two different uses. So I I I do not want to tie one to the to to the other. I feel perhaps that a fair solution may be to to tie at at least at
least one of the town homes commences to give me co on the building. Listen, there's a very high possib probability that the town homes start first >> first. Yeah. No, it's it's >> but but again in the event that it doesn't and in our lives as we all know, we got to we got to plan accordingly and
look at every situation. The last thing that I want is for whatever reason the to that the town homes don't sell. My pre leasing continues to go the way it's going for the medical office building. I have an asset ready to go. I have tenants ready to move in. And now
because I didn't start the town homes, the city's not giving me a >> we don't want to cut we don't want to cut our noses by spite our face either. So I guess is is this going to require a replot? >> What he described will require replat? >> We will replplat the site. Correct. >> Okay. So it would it be would it be
possible to have uh is it be two separate pl or two two separate tracks? >> It would be it would be the eight each lot for those eight town houses would be its own >> track four lots four lots plus one for the >> plus one large tract. Okay. So uh I'm
assuming is would it be possible before to maybe make it two conditions? I would say have final plat recorded for the the total subdivision and at least one building permit issued for one of the four duplexes by the time you ask for CO
for for the medical office building. Is that a workable condition for you? >> So final PL recorded or Tplat approved? What >> I would say final PL I mean I'm assuming to start construction you're going to have a T plat approval on on the Met Office building. I I I think that that that that's a fair
>> assumption. So yeah, go ahead. >> Uh sorry through the mayor. I I mean another way where we can compromise is um we can set we can set it with the CEO, right? But you could still obtain TCO. So your main objective of moving tenants in you'll still be able to do
that, but TCO only allows to be extended for I guess you get two extensions, which is six months. So that'll give you that much time a so six months after Yeah. TCO that he would have to have started. >> He's concerned about it becoming an issue with procuring financing and
lender approval. You know what what's >> I think he's he's nervous about not being able to move in his tenants. >> We want to move him in. Yeah. >> Correct. So with TCO they could they could operate and Commissioner Rodriguez is correct. We we could we could commence operations through TCO. So that that perhaps is is is a fair approach as well.
>> And it gives them six months to then you know they can do two extensions which would last is pretty much six months. And by that point, they would have to start construction on the town homes and then get their seal >> and they could still move in their >> I'm fine with that. >> And then the other the other element is
the the final plat recorded. >> It will it will have to be recorded before C. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Tony, you want to read back the items and just make sure that you understand and are fine with them? >> Yep. >> So, we're clear
and then we can vote the item up or down. >> Okay. So, we have uh the modification would include the architecture condition that that uh I described which would allow for modification of the plans to accommodate >> rear loaded town homes
>> site access. Exactly. uh from from the Senate site, the solid waste storage and pickup location would be moved in further internal to the site to be roughly equidistant from 68th and 69th Street. Um to internalize operations, uh directional turning traffic uh egressing
out of the garage on the north would be right turn only, on the south would be left turn only. Um developers uh would work with uh development services staff to provide for a denser canopy along Southwest 62nd Avenue um with uh ample shade trees. Um and then the last one
has to do with the timing of the town houses, which is that the final plat uh would be recorded for the for the entire subdivision uh plus a building permit for at least one duplex prior to full certificate of occupancy. >> Sure. >> Okay, understood. with with a TCO
permitted. >> I'm sorry. I'll add the waiver. Yes. >> Well, he didn't mention it, so just >> Is that fine with you? >> With a TCO permitted >> with a TCO permitted uh with two extensions. >> Correct. >> Right. >> Correct. The TCO and that's important. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. No, the idea is allow for
occupancy just not final certificate of occupy. >> Final certificate. Right. >> Okay. So, the applicant understands has no objection to the the conditions with that. Um, is there a motion to approve? >> I'll move the motion >> item item four, right? Wait. So,
>> these conditions are these conditions are attaching to the DA >> and and uh I'm going to work them into >> and the development order as well. That's right. Okay. That's right. >> So, we have a motion to approve item four as modified >> and five >> as modified with the conditions read by the city attorney. >> I'll move the motion.
>> Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Okay. So, we have a motion by Commissioner Rodriguez on item four with a second by Vice Mayor Corey. Madame Clerk, if you can call uh if you can call the role on item four, please. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cay, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey? >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez? >> Yes. >> Item passes as amended. >> Okay. If you can, is there a motion on item five, please? Again, the motion is to adopt item five as modified with the conditions expressed by the city
attorney. Is there a motion? >> I'll move the motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. A motion by Commissioner Rodriguez and a second again by Vice Mayor Corey. Madam clerk, if you can call the role, please. >> Yes. Commissioner Cay? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bonish? >> Yes.
>> Vice Mayor Corey? >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez? >> Yes. >> Item passes 5 Z. >> Thank you for your investment. Thank you for your patience with us. We appreciate it. >> Thank you all. Thank you. Have a great night. >> Have a good night. Take care. >> Okay. Um,
madame clerk, if you can read uh item one, please. Item one, a resolution of the mayor, city commission of the city of South, Florida, approving a proposal and project agreement with Kimy Horn and Associates to provide professional engineering services relating to the
Litter House Reserve Park project at 6609 Southwest 60th Street in amount not to exceed $104,000, $773.50. >> Thank you. Uh colleagues, any questions on item one? It's a snicker. Snicker time.
>> Thank you. >> Snickers. >> I She was turning into >> I was turning into a hangry person, so I needed a Snickers. >> Any any questions on item one for someone who's not having a Snickers as of yet? No. Give her a second to uh take it in. I I I do have a comment I wanted
to share, which is I I I think we should approve this item. Uh the preliminary design again is really I think focused what was in the illustration seems to focus really on being hyperefficient in terms of the number of spaces that we could derive from the improved parking
lot. And I would just like to encourage the consultant to really look at a preservation strategy for trees on that footprint. There are a lot of D County pine. It's pretty rare. There's some other pretty mature trees on the site. Um, this is a an attempt to improve the
condition, but not, in my opinion, render it the most efficient possible parking lot. And I'd prefer to see them use something other than asphalt as the paving surface >> or the parking apron uh when they analyze the development of uh this potential improvement. Those are my two
comments and what I wanted to provide by way of direction to the manager as they uh study the alternative. Commissioner Cayenne. >> Yeah, in my agenda meeting as well, I said the same thing. Uh we I brought up the exact same thing. Maybe a PA or wood PA structure where it's a lot more permeable, a lot more naturalistic to
that area to keep that rustic look and the tree canopy of course will will be I do not want uh asphalt at all. >> Okay, >> Madam Commissioner. Yes. >> All righty. Thank you. Um, I thought maybe this was like a little early
because in my mind we would be dealing with the whole tree issue first. So, when I look at like a list of things we could or should be spending our money on, not that I think this is a bad idea because I think we all agree that that
parking lot is a nightmare. I just don't know if that's something we need to do right now while we're still trying to figure out the other side, which I think is maybe a bigger priority. Yeah, I think I I think it's um >> I think it's a valid question. So,
>> yes, sir. >> Okay. So, thank through the mayor. This is actually important for me obviously for and for commissioner Bonich because this is our neighborhood of course. Yeah. >> So, for me, this is very important. I agree with both you and with
Commissioner Cay uh about using a permeable uh PA just to make it different. This is on 67th Avenue. This is a I guess like an entrance feature from off Miller into the city. So where
I say we we do something permeable as far as park, but also do something where we can do, you know, maybe like a a small knee wall, coral rock wall in the front of it. Um, especially now that we saw those
conceptual drawings for for Palmer Park, I think this is just will feed into that. So, if we make this parking lot just a little extra nicer, I think as people are coming into our city from 67th Avenue, it it's a feature and I
think it's important. And I'm not just saying that as because it's our neighbor, but especially now, again, I'm repeating myself, but with the conceptual drawing of Palmer Park, I think it'll just flow. And then in respect to I spoke with the manager um
we are I guess what the manager had told me was we the the fence will come first for the house and then once that's done then we'll work on the trees which I know he's already working on and I believe and and he can say better than I can obviously but that um there's a
possibility of bringing back where the mammy Dade uh we can get this done at no cost to us. >> That' be amazing. the cleanage of the foliage and all that. So, it is in the process of being done. So, we are doing all three at the same time.
>> So, I I'm I'm with both of you and hopefully we can do some nice frontal feature there. >> More importantly, we need to ask Mr. Russio's parents what they think, too, by the way. >> Yes, exactly. >> Why your parents live there? >> They live all right. Yeah. Just on the north on the north side. Yeah. >> Oh, okay.
>> Made a block. >> Yeah. I think if you ask the neighbors if they want a lot of access on that uh in that reserve, they'd tell you no. So anyhow, um Okay. Any further comments?
>> No. Okay. Is there a motion to approve item one? >> I'll move the motion. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second it. >> Thank you. So have a motion by Commissioner Rodriguez, a second by Commissioner Cay. Mr. Manager, you I think heard the feedback, so if you could take that under advisement, we'd appreciate it. Madam Clerk, if you can
call the role. Yes. Commissioner Cayenne. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Rodri Rodriguez. >> Commissioner Bonish. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Cording. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fernandez. >> Yes. >> Item passes 5. >> Thank you. If you could read item two, please. >> Item two. A resol a resolution of the
city commission of the of the city of South Florida approving the proposal and project work purchase order with EXP US services in to provide project management services and advisory on call and project specific support services authorizing expendure of funds providing
for information correction serability and effective date. >> Colleagues any questions on item two? No. Uh Mr. Man, my only question again, was it finally four months that we were extending the term for? Was it longer? >> The mayor, the mayor, the the the proposal says 5 months, but in reality,
uh given that it's an up to time and materials uh of 142,990. Uh we verified it could take six months. >> Okay, that's fine. So, it's basically whatever whatever time it takes to exceed the amount. I just wanted to make sure you had enough time to use the contract. You weren't limited by that >> time period. uh the help has been
incredibly uh >> uh timely and and certainly helpful to to the staffing and and the workload and and certainly the expertise. So um yeah, I appreciate the the thought. Um and we'll reevaluate. We have our CIP manager that just started and this is
going to help transition. I think at that time we'll reevaluate how to how to proceed, you know, at that moment. >> Thank you for that. Uh with that, colleagues, is there a motion? >> I'll move it. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second. Motion by Commissioner Kay and a second by Commissioner Bonich. Madam clerk, please call the role on item two.
>> Yes. Commissioner Bonich, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Cy, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 5 Z. >> If you can read item seven, please. Item seven, an ordinance of the mayor and city commission of the city of South Florida relating to South Miami pension
plan by amending chapter 16 pensions article 2 city pension plan section 16-12 definition in order to effectuate the memorandum of understanding between the city and police benevolent association and the fraternal order of
police. Thank you, madam clerk. Colleagues, this is the second reading of the item we heard uh last month. Any questions of city attorney, the manager? Uh seeing no questions, this is a public hearing item. We will open up item seven again, which is an ordinance relating to
the South Miami pension plan by amending uh chapter 16 pensions and related definitions. Uh if any member of the public would like to address this commission on this item, please come forward at this time. If there's any member online who would like to address this commission, please uh raise your virtual hand. Seeing no one in the
chamber and no virtual hand raised online, we will close the public hearing. Is there a motion uh on item seven? >> I'll move it. >> Second. >> We have a motion to adopt by Commissioner Bonich, seconded by Commissioner Cay. Madame Clerk, if you can call the role, please. >> Yes. Commissioner Bonich, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Cay, >> yes. >> Commissioner Rodriguez, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Corey, >> yes. >> Mayor Fernandez, >> yes. >> Item passes 5 Z. >> Great. So colleagues, I think we've gotten through all the business other than the one discussion item on affordable housing. So I'll be very brief on that one next. Um, Commissioner
Rodriguez, I want to thank you again, as I said in the memo, for bringing forward the discussion recently about um an opportunity I think we all agree with. Um um there are certainly different ways to
pursue this. I think any course we choose, uh, this is something that I think without offense to anyone here, myself included, really is outside of our core competence as a city. And I think, uh, we've got a rare opportunity
to, um, kind of position ourselves and be ready to either consider a proposal or formulate our own solicitation in the future. And I think we'd be best positioned to do that with the advice of specialized counsel. These by no means
are and and I think a consultant and these by no means the only people in the market that we could certainly work with and if we decide to give direction to the city manager and city attorney to you know engage these people in discussions I invite them to suggest other names for our consideration
uh as well but I um in thinking about council that's in the marketplace um you know I work with I I wanted to be you know an attorney who did this kind of finan ing work. Unfortunately, when I came out of law school in the market, there were no tax credit transactions happening because it was the great
recession and there very few people, no one had tax liability. So, these transactions were essentially shell for a period of time. But, you know, I had the luxury of working with Brian Mcdana at Sterns Weaver and Terry Levelvel that for a long time in South Florida has been the go-to practice. There's a
partition at Schutz that's very prominent as well. uh and um there are a smattering of others but those two practice groups uh now Mr. Levelvel and Mr. McDunn no longer work together one's at Bulls and one is at Sterns Weaver but they represent the basically the
kaleidoscope of all the actors in this affordable housing and workforce housing space so I had I had the fortune of um full disclosure meeting Mr. Whitney I was having a recruiting conversation with Paulelli was a firm at one time I
was considering joining. He is someone that's very steeped in this in this area understands structuring both the joint venture side and um the transactional side of these of these um engagements and so but does not represent anyone in
the local marketplace. And so I thought is that we're looking at possible options for lawyers who know the subject matter but aren't going to be conflicted out or not want to be conflicted out because they're not representing developers actively in Miami date or Broward. Um I mean it specifically Mr.
Whitney's one of those people. He has a very successful practice nationally um in two in two markets principally. I kind of provided some of the volume of work he did last year. 73 transactions in the tax equity mostly litax space.
So, he knows this work and I think could represent us well and help us understand how we could either approach a deal with someone like Coral Rock or anyone else in terms of structuring a solicitation. Um, so I think we'd be well served by having his advice and specialized
counsel to back up our our our great team already. And then Miss Gomez is someone I had the good fortune of working with 20 some odd years ago when she was the community development director at the city of Miami. It's not always been a perfect relationship with
Barbara and I, but I have immense respect for her capacity. Uh Tony, I'll remind you of the reason for that comment. She's a good person. She does work with she represents most uh a lot of the developers in this space as they try to pursue
um either home monies or certax uh proceeds from entitlement jurisdictions and the county. So she knows the timing. She knows the structuring of these deals from a lot of the other um subsidy vehicles that are out there. And I think it would be
helpful to her to have her on board to either evaluate a proposal and make sure that we are not over overs subsidizing the deal through our contribution of the land principally uh so we're getting just value out of it and or andor getting the maximum affordability.
Uh or should we go the route of actually soliciting can help us kind of understand the timing of all these other uh sources of funding that we could tap into and make sure that as we are soliciting uh a respondent party we can we can
account for those dollars and the timing of them and their experience in procuring either certax home local bond funding or any other sources of funding that are available to support these deals. So I I wanted to profer two names because I think whatever we decide to
do, time is never our friend. And if we begin to, you know, tie up talent, I think we're in a better position then to respond to any opportunity uh that comes to us or pursue the possibility of soliciting uh a team to help us chase
down um any affordable housing product that we want to advance. So um the idea would be to just give direction to the manager to start a conversation with these folks about a possible engagement or any other folks that you know any other lawyer the city attorney wants to recommend who's got knowledge in the
space uh or the manager I would say any other consultant who may have experience of a similar kind in the community development space and bring back you know uh for our consideration. Um again hopefully this is all below the procurement threshold but at least to
give us a sense that you know if we agree that we should be retaining folks with this kind of knowledge background expertise so we can kind of move forward um I think more aggressively in pursuing a project that that's again the will of the commission. So that's all I've got
to say uh to an answer for your consideration and again I think the idea would be to decide whether we want to give the manager direction to begin conversations with professionals uh specialized counsel and possibly consultant to help us either evaluate a deal or formulate a proposal thoughts
colleagues >> so I guess uh through the mayor. >> Yes, sir. Um, I'm I'm I'm okay with with with with bringing on people that will help us, you know, and I think people who have knowledge of of this can help expedite the process. So, I'm not
against that at all. I, as a matter of fact, I'm I'm I want to push to expedite this process. So to my fellow colleagues, and I'm sure the mayor, you already know, I guess those the tax subsidies, the applications have to be in by June. Uh I
believe they have to be in by June. So if we solicit this and go to an RFP process, there's no way we're going to make it by June. I don't believe because let's say we make it by April, you're going to give a developer two months to get all
their paperwork and everything ready. we're going to miss it the window and we're going to have to wait till next year. And I think that this this product is something that's really needed in our community as soon as possible. So that's why I'm pushing for going with Coral
Rock, not because I I I want to use it's just they're ready to go and I know that they're willing to work with us with the criteria that we set forth. >> It wasn't we though. >> Huh? >> It wasn't we. >> What do you mean? So guys, I I don't want to I we can I if I could just offer
this >> you can offer what criteria you you you would want to put you you're going to have a meeting with them next week. You can tell them exactly what it is that you would like to see out. >> So gentlemen, I think I think I don't I don't I don't want to get into what I think Germaine to this
conversation is do we need do we think whatever we decide to do we need professional help that can advise us and I would say whether it's one or the other I think we need help in either in either universe. I don't want to I don't want because I will tell you that as much as I know I don't know you know
whether the timing of the sir tax program should be our driver or not. What I do know is that there's more I need to know and you know I can have very deep conversations with Mr. Wall because I I think he is u one of the foremost practitioners in
this space. Could he be an excellent partner? Absolutely. But when we want to talk about structuring the deal and getting the most value, what I want to make sure is I'm ready to respond because he may come forward with something tomorrow in two weeks or a month, right? Um, and if someone else on
this commission wants to profer a discussion item to say yay or nay on soul sourcing this with one party or I want to move forward a solicitation, then let's have that conversation. I don't want to mix the two right now because I want to make sure is that we get ahead of a pot the receipt of a
potential proposal uh and we avoid being having lawyers in the marketplace conflicted out because someone else it could be Mr. Well, it could be somebody else says, you know what, I got a great proposal, too. And they send in a proposal tomorrow and but they're represented by Shauna Whitney or pick somebody else. Right? So, my my my
thought was let's pick a team like we did with city hall and then let's worry about, you know, what comes in. Could be one response, 10 responses, one proposal, two unsolicited proposals. You know, that that's where I'm trying to get to. Just let's be ready. Yes, ma'am.
I appreciate what you're saying to keep the two items separate. I I think it's it's smart. I I commend both you and you >> for one of you for thinking of it and the other one for for accepting it to
his original idea. Um, all of that being said, I think if we know that Coral Rock is very good there, I don't know why we would start to open it up, you know, the the same as we've kind of done I think before where we
will go down the road with somebody. I I think maybe that's what we would want to do here. Just I hear you when you say we're not stuck to June, but if not, it becomes a perpetual thing. So, I agree that we should have representation. I
actually think that's quite clever. And then when you're saying we separate it, I I agree. Let's do one and then have the discussion for two. I I I hear what Commissioner Rodriguez is saying. I I hear what Commissioner Kai
is saying, too. I just think if we have somebody that might be great, and I don't know them. I don't know them. I don't know who they are. Um, do we want to muddy that water? So I am in support of what you are saying. >> I'm trying to stay out of those waters
right now. What I'm trying to make sure is that >> too. >> Yeah. I again I mean I I have Look, I think I'll say this. Could we do a good deal with Michael Wall? Absolutely. But we're not going to be in the in the position to negotiate the best deal if
we don't have the right resources at the table to help us. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Could we do I think there's going to be there would be a lot of interest in a solicitation of this. I mean I you know I would tell you I could probably name six developer parties
right that uh would likely respond. Now I felt as I felt less bullish about city hall and we had one, right? So could it be two? Could it be three? The po the point is it's in either conversation >> we need >> we need advice, right? I mean, our city
attorneys are excellent, right? Our manager is extremely experienced, but this is a very very specialized area of the law and it involves the most complicated parts of commercial real estate. Uh, it has the most layers of
financing of any deal. I mean, it makes it makes conventional transactional deals look like nothing because some of these deals have five, six, seven, eight layers of subsidy to get to where you want to go. And so how all the documents interact, you know, how all you know, it's it's complicated. And so I would
just like to have us start the process of shaking the bushes to find the right party to work with. Two names for everyone's consideration. We could hire them or not, I don't care. They will make a recommendation. My goal was just to say, let's have a conversation and give them direction to start to chase
down the right people for us. >> Okay, >> that's what I want to limit the conversation to because it is >> 10:30 and I want us to get out of here at some point. We all agree on that. I I I think it's smart. >> Yeah. >> I agree. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, let's move uh Mr. Manager and
City Attorney if you can, you know, have a conversation these two. I've already teed it up somewhat. They're ready to have a conversation. But I think, you know, I I would also appreciate if you could bring forward identify some other names so that we're not just focused on on these two. Okay.
With that, any anything further on this item? Okay. Um, colleagues, we did not do commission reports or remarks. Anything that we uh would like to say for the record on those items, I'll move left to right. >> I'm good.
>> Okay. Vice Mayor, all good to hear. Sounds good. Commissioner Rodriguez. >> Uh, no, I'm I'm good, >> sir. >> I had a couple things. Um, >> please go ahead. >> Just a reminder to the public that we have the Somi uh kids market on Saturday. Uh, that's going to be a
really cool event. It's our third annual one with Commissioner Regalado and a whole bunch of other sponsors. Uh secondly, uh this past Saturday we had our third uh class of uh kids financial literacy program. We had over 26 kids
which is a record for that program. Um kids from all different schools uh different backgrounds. It was an amazing experience. I went and I you know I was there for the first you know 20 30 minutes and spoke about the importance of financial literacy especially at that age group. Uh, it was a really cool event. Looking forward to expanding that
with with your guys' support. Um, and then lastly, that's it. Have a good night. >> Thank you. Um, I just want to congratulate you on the Workforce Miami. >> Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. >> Agreement execution. Um, I hope you
enjoy working with William Porro as much as I have >> for a long time. William, uh, is the assistant director for CASD at the county. Uh, if you ask me what the acronym is at this hour, I can't remember. I know it's community action and something else, but um he's a he's a
rock star and has been doing this work for a long time and I'm glad that we can participate uh in that countywide initiative. Yes, sir. >> No, I think that uh to add to that, I think that all of us uh please spread out the word um constituents, people,
people looking for work, start pushing them on this site. and all retailers, uh, restaurants, uh, construction builders, subcontractors, developers, they need employees, I mean, as well. So, let's push them on to this platform. This platform is not only for South
Miami, but we will have a dedicated place for our people here, uh, including our jobs through South Miami on that platform. So, let's let's collectively push on that. I know the comm team uh our our deputy across the board were all
doing a really good job to get this going. So I appreciate your support. >> Yeah. And and again just to double back very quickly the affordable housing and resource conversation whatever path we go down kind of the next thing in terms of bringing resources kind of building on some of
the work you're doing is you know having a conversation some point above finding a partner to do credit repair work for people in South Miami that we want to target with the units so that when the opportunity that we decide is ready to be teed up people can that are earning enough can meet the moment and not be barred from being able to access those
units because their credit is, you know, in some ways impacted. So, I appreciate you kind of starting that conversation and and beginning and beginning the layering with uh the financial literacy piece because it's all a continuum that we need to build on. Uh >> Francesca, if you're listening, that's the next project right there. There you
go.