okay anyway um so this is the regular monthly meeting of the Southwick agricultural commission today is uh Wednesday March 12th 2025 um we do have a quorum present with myself Bert Hansen Dan Cook Jen Depetro
Zack Barnett and online uh Sage Fury for that one oh I'm sorry Jess Jess Parker I didn't even know that Jess Parker presid um let's see we were going to
have person named Christy banish to talk about uh friends of the rail trail and um outdoor activities and now we might connect but apparently she's not here so we do have Jessica Taylor Jess why
don't you to come up to the table here we have plenty of room um thank you talk about the master plan and um I gotta tell you we're all wrestling with how to prioritize 34 items it's a
lot it's a lot for sure yes um so just real quick Jessica Taylor on 31 Kuman Road um I am on the master plan implementation committee um and the committee members um all went through the different boards and commissions in town and kind of split them up to so
each one of us is a liais on to to one of the commissions or organizations in town um so that's why I'm here today um and I know I heard you asking about the action items and different things so the 66 SE kangam oh okay nice toet you
neighbor um so yeah so when so I was not part of the master plan um committee the folks that wrote the plan um but from my understanding you know was developed over the last couple years um and then there are action items per each chapter that has to do with you know they have
land use housing Economic Development and so on um okay great yeah okay perfect probably way more familiar we just love to say this we met 46 times that's a lot it's a lot well
it's a big it's a big plan there's a lot to it and you know a lot of detail in there so um so yeah I mean so you guys are probably way more familiar we're you know the committee is going through the different chapters getting to you know familiarize ourselves if we're not already with um the action items the
different strategies and kind of what was set forth and then um you know part of being the liaison is just to check in and be a support for each of the commissions of the boards sure go ahead chrisy is that is that you are you
chrisy okay just yeah come on um and so so our part of our task is to help kind of organize the action items and and Report out um you know for the town on where we stand so we're coming up with some kind of report card just to
keep track of where we are but the first step is to kind of go through with the different um organizations and and hear what you guys would would like to do for priority um starting with the lead items and then of course the the support um but I understand for you guys there's a
lot on the support so i' love to hear some feedback or input from the group on um your thoughts you know maybe we can start with the lead and then talk about the the support items too so and I know Bert you had sent over some of your priorities already so thank
you yeah it's just again it's kind of a bear so I thought well if I could tell everybody what I was thinking yeah that would help for sure and also what a couple of us did was with the 34 items I went through and I just had a one two
three yeah so this is a one this is a two and I ended up with you know three smaller groups and then within those groups I could better prioritize so yeah that's a great idea yeah so do you wna like walk walk
through each item um we it's up to you guys I know for your lead items you have the four um and I think that's what we would be interested in hearing um I know Norm's been organizing I think he sent out you know the sheet to everybody so we're trying to kind of um work on the
lead items first as well as you know then get the your priorities on the support items um so I think with the four lead items probably makes sense to start there um I don't know if everybody's had a chance to put in their priorities so what the plan would be every each of you get to say what your
priority would be and then we would tally it up in you know amongst the the group we would say oh everybody thought you know 3.1 is a top priority or whatever it is um you know that was maybe where you guys want to start so but um they're your items so you can you
know kind of handle them however you would like um well I'll tell you what mine were and then I know Zach mine are the same as oh okay I have a little bit different so if anyone else wants to say go ahead so I had 3.2 as my number one
um Regular free workshops on agricultural practices Market opportunities we um not specifically this um uh subject matter but we do workshops every year
various okay rent writing and homesteading beekeeping we do these quite a few of these are with in conjunction with the library okay I why put that me for number one I had number two uh 1.4 as
number two with a star uh or Lisk which I think is supposed to say we've already started that okay great as I said that an annual Forum to connect with and educate land owners on
permanently protecting their land we we just had a month ago two months ago our third annual Farmers Forum we get the farmers together find out what they're thinking about yeah how are we doing type of thing so it's and one thing that
actually came up uh at this past Forum was chapter 61a protecting the land there's a lot of uh misunderstanding about that so we're actually going to do a workshop on that specifically
um let's see 3.1 I had as my number three encourage local farm products and the restaurants Etc and then number four 2.5 was number four meth methods for the town to assist in developing
agricultural irrigation I'm little curious how it ended up being specifically Iration okay okay yeah and um so just a comment there so these this is obviously what was proposed from the plan if you guys have
other suggestions or want to suggest a change or modification we can look at that as well and I can bring it back to the committee um so we're coming up with a process on how best to handle like if you looked at something and said hey first this shouldn't even be here with
us we want to have a process for that um or if you're looking at this and say hey um this is good but we should add or expand on it you know we would want to know about that too so so we can suggest absolutely yeah so for my understanding these this is like from this it's all
the suggestions on what you know the committee that put this together um thought would be like best practices to kind of lead some of the initiatives um but there there would be room to make some modifications too for my understanding so yeah I what went
through the planning board right and yeah so what we so I don't know if we have the firm process yet but I could take back suggestions and if you want to change or ad I could say hey the commission came up with this they would like this modified and then we would run it through you know our process when we
get the process approved um so I'd bring just bring it back to the committee and then we could take it from there okay so were you thinking of adding to um that 25 is that what it's just very specific oh okay gotcha I'm
lenita overa from blossy CHR um yeah that kind of intrigues me too because most Farmers that are farming for living have we have irrigation ponds we have as much as we can have and afford for irrigating because frankly
Town water is horrendously expensive and getting worse and farmers are not afforded any break as an agricultural entity we pay the same amount of money as somebody does to fill their swimming pool which is for a town that wants to
be an agricultural town and wants open space and jobs for their kids and everything else to to not have any sort of break for things like water is is not uh something that probably would
need to be should be addressed should be addressed okay A little bit of attention but I know some Farmers take water out of the Lakes out of the L used is there in charge for that do you know uh I'm pretty sure you have to get a permit you
have to get a permit get a way to get well the main thing is there no Farmland right along the edge of the lake it's all built up so you have to come across somebody's land and you have to come across a road I used to rent to piece um
on the on birkar and it was just cost foroh to have a pump big enough and and how you going to get across the road plus when they treat it you can't use it right you can't use it um and I used to rent a piece right over the line in Westfield and you could water from a
hydrant there but you had been in the middle of the night so we slept in the field to a that's we could do it because of the roads that's things that you know that don't people don't realize so okay um yeah so I'm really I'm I'm curious like
what is what is this getting at and what is it you know and then there's years where I've gotten a letter at the end of the year basically scolding me for using so much water that you're paying for that I'm
paying and that I'm what else you want me to do you want me to pay my taxes so that you know we don't have water what about we don't have what about putting wells in and if you can afford it yeah so and
you really don't know until you start how how much it's gonna cost that's something we've considered because we have to we're I'm just a little Homestead just for us and and but for us water is a huge issue when I got to water things you know I'm out watering 100 blueberries I I spot water things I
don't broadcast anything but it's it's expensive and it's something the more I plant it's like yikes where you know where do you get the water from other than Town water and it's there are some grants
um but yeah maybe that's something we could like as a commission push for you know help farmers out but I'd love I'd love to see and anybody with even a small with animals and stuff you take more than the average amount of water I mean the good thing was David qualified
US for senior citizen rate so we pay the the the low rate or even if we go over it that last year was our first year and it saves a little bit but it's not huge yeah so I'm just I'm just curious like what sure what you what is does somebody
have are they thinking about that is that why this is in here because it's so if you don't mind um since we're talking about this one because Bert and I worked on the the climate change chapter specifically and
I was having the same thought I was like I don't remember that specification yeah coming out but I do and I do remember even us having this conversation not necessarily in in just for irrigation but also like it was just climate change in general because I remember us
discussing and me saying specifically like we've lost our crop to having too much wet weather and in irrigation isn't necessarily like the end all be all we have these other factors for climate change and I remember us having that conversation so
I thought it was interesting too that it was very specific down to that that I think there's other okay factors in there and like to your point most Farmers that I am aware of like we have our water we can irate right right but
we don't have any we can't do anything about some of these other factors we can't do anything if it to much right and our land in town is dry so drains well I mean a wet year is awful and I've lost Acres of stuff too um there's you know you can tile Fields you can try to
drain them but again it's very expensive and you're right if we're gonna talk about this we talk about the other side too grants for tiling or yeah um drainage um okay so Jen what did you
have for your your order first question thank um the top four that's these right yeah yep so the ones that say lead so those from the plan Ro noted that that your commission would take the lead on
those items and then that really long list was that you guys would be the support to the other committees that are taking the lead so yeah gotcha okay so we work on those first and then okay um so for my number one is on there is the
um open space 14 1.4 that's my number one um we go it's pretty much what we're kind of working on now um I put number two is the chapter 61 protocol because
it came up in the open Forum um um The Farm Forum so I put that as my number two as something um to look at was you know it's a different write up of what I thought it was but I just seen the chapter 61 protocol on there yeah Pang
on Jen um so your number one is one 1.4 open space 1.4 which is on our on the lead one right Y and then your number two which was open space
1.3 that's a support that's a support one yeah oh it's a support one okay so um all right so yeah I guess I have to go through the list again okay um and then number three I just went through the whole list so you have one page though with the
lead actions yeah I have um okay is that this first page yeah um that was where I had number one yeah but um and that's fine if you need
to go um back through um yeah because I think we would want to try to prioritize the leads first so we know like what you guys want to do as a group to maybe start or maybe there's other things you already have in process um so so if you don't have your you know
the numbers today we you can always email or get them to Bert and email them over to me um or to Norm and we can you know populate the list that way that's fine um but if any you know if any I don't know if any other members have the numbers and I can put it in the yeah you
want to so I have one as uh open space 1.4 I also had the as an aster next I felt like we had as B already said kind of started that process um I had two as 3.2 also saying with an aster that we
had kind of I felt like that we had partly started that with the workshops that we have already had as well okay um I had three as um the climate change 2.5 and really my three and four I kind of went back and forth on because I four I
put four 3.1 um the taste of southw which I felt I mean I feel like that's like it was more like a Economic Development than maybe specific to Adcom and and I I know that we had a hard time like sorting out
you know lead and supporting roles and all that so but I felt like that wasn't really some that's why I had it at four basically yeah yeah I can relate that back honestly when I read it I thought so too yeah I was like itn't doesn't feel like like top four things out sure
sure okay like I would have felt like the maybe chapter 61 or something else like land and preservation came maybe before that in my are you are you tell on your yeah okay
that's what I got oh okay for the okay one as 3.2 okay hang on a second one is 3.2 okay two is the 2.5 so the only on we supposed to just
go three is the 1.4 am I am I understanding oh wait a minute oh right okay three yeah four and I feel the same as you guys do I understand kind of already been doing
okay yep I'll make a note of that too sounds like both the 1.4 and 3.2 you've already done some work on yeah so got the same okay let me sounds good to
me brilliant piics brilliant pics I kind of agree with the top four the one 1.4 would be one 2.5 would would be two 3.2 would be three and then 3.1
would be four okay so that's if I was just to pick out I'm sorry just say you're three and four again sorry um yep 3.2 is three and 3.1 is four okay so um oh Sage I don't
need leave you out just because you're on Zoom um did you get a chance to look at these been fighting flew for weeks man no I haven't had time to do anything but cough my head off okay well don't talk anymore yeah yeah
yeah um so I'm kind of wondering I mean we're pretty close um but how should we score this just add it up and yeah so what we can
do if we could get um when other folks have time so it's sounds like I know sage has been sick so um maybe in the next couple weeks if we could get that and then um I think we need Thomas yep and Ronald yep I don't know if we're
gonna get Ron we may not we may not put Ron down as same as me father-in-law oh okay okay we can do that if you like three one two and four so um B what I
can do I'll um fill this in if you have the other two just send them over either to myself or norm and then we'll just total total it up I mean you guys seem pretty consistent so uh um you know it looks like 3.2 1.4 are like your top two priorities
which is good because you already have some of the work started um and then the the 25 and 31 they might be a little closer although I think 31 would be like your last priority just looking at the numbers so we can total that up for you that's not a problem
um and then Norm has like a master sheet that he's putting everything in so yeah yeah so we can do that so not a problem wizard also so Norm yeah some of the stuff he was producing during the I
was like I'm Prett good in Excel and I was just like wow yeah for sure I can't imagine how many hours he spent no um I just want quickly just point out one of our support um
actions is on page six and it's 3.6 um create a public forum with the Council on Aging and other Town boards uh to determine how other Town entities can collaborate with the senior center and engage in events with older adults
that's another one we're already doing oh great okay we're we're having what we're calling a farm hop where we're going to use the senior center van take people on out to Farms yeah so that's cool yeah that's really good inform we've
been ansers and also on that too um there was one on page four with the um I think it's open st7 that's the establish environmental Club at the
high school additionally educate you know um we were thinking about doing like an after school program so that was on our agenda that was one of my higher priorities haven't actually started that yet but we
have okay just a small thing too yeah it shows up a few times um it says clickmate instead of climate I saw that yeah I'll make sure we we fix that and then there was one on the support that was already on your lead so um that drops it up to only 33 support
items saing you some work so um so I know the the support it's a much longer list so you know obious even 33 is a lot so um I think we were looking to for a similar exercise
where you guys give us like what you would think for your priorities and I know Norm had suggested maybe start with your top and bottom 10 and we can kind of work through into the middle um so I'm not sure um you know if you guys want to talk about any other items in
here if you want to still work on prioritizing the list um I know B you went through yours um Zach it sounds like you started doing some too um and Jesse might have some um and I know that's longer so that we might be it might be better if we like email you
know send it over with the priorities and we can start populating that um so each person should shend it send it directly to you and Norm um that would be fine unless you want to have it should you probably want the master yeah you might want the master so um yeah
either way is fine um yeah your docent oh okay that helps meant I think that'll just help prioritize even though you guys are the support I think and it sounds like you're already starting to work on a couple of those with the other
commission so to just help give some V visibility on what your desires are you know on priorities for the support and making sure we're coordina helping to coordinate for you guys too so um so I think for the for the lead ones we were
hoping to have everybody's um tally um by the beginning of April I don't know if that I know we're most of the way there I know we're only waiting for a couple folks um the support ones I think the beginning of April might be a little aggressive unless you guys think you can
get it get them done by that if you need more time we can you know I can about a half hour okay yeah really wow you're I just I did did the first 10ish and then I did the last 10 and then it just kind
of in the middle okay yeah that's great sure yeah well we can shoot for the end of April definitely for for the support okay for the end of April like after your next meeting okay that's fine and
then do you want me to so on to five um I don't know if you guys want to talk about that more or if you want me to bring any comments back to the committee on um you know the climate page 2.5 um because I know there's maybe some you
know maybe it needs to be expanded upon or researched a little bit more from what it sounds like um so I don't know if you you guys want to kind of sit on it and maybe discuss a little more if you have any comments that you'd like me to bring back to the committee at this
point okay I guess I was just wondering where it's coming from sure sure yeah okay yeah is there more to it than just like the line yeah I think helping the farmers financially would make more sense sure can break out
you can probably go back too in the master like I can probably find in the master plan like where exactly it came from too I don't I just don't remember I mean we worked on that chapter like I said specifically but it's been long enough I put I put that out of my brain right yeah
yeah because I know the water rats are going off part of that I mean water I remember it coming like people talking about it but I also remember it's like there me and there were other people that were like pushing back on
you know it not just being like a water like irrigation and so I don't remember exactly like was it like the was it like from a financial standpoint was it like just the concern of water the Water band came up a lot in the master Clan so that
was a whole thing to and I don't know if it's steming from that maybe because do you remember people it kept getting brought up that um how can we you know have a water park if we have a water van every year I don't know if it came off
of someh part of that so it's really the only I mean there's things relating to agriculture like the you know open forms and stuff like that but that's really the only thing that's related to the mechanics of agriculture
really you know somebody's Farm some okay yeah unless it I can't yeah I can take a look at it too but I know you're more familiar with the with everything than than I am yeah but um but yeah I
can look into the chapter two and kind of see like where if there's more to provide more context to it so for sure so great this was super helpful question do you know if there are any more printed copies I was eyeing that
too I will I will ask I don't know how many they made but this was our first meeting they're like here so all that work he each commission having one would be nice though they could I like
that like bring it to the meeting yeah able to through it yeah I'll see what we can do great okay well thank you so much um any other just general comments or anything else you want me to bring back to the
rest of the com committee or I just had one thing like regarding the water issue um maybe some information as to what it would take if um somebody wanted to add a well to their land or something um
what what would be something would it would there be a lot of cost to that or you know um okay what would the town require if somebody wanted to add something you I don't know if that has anything to
do with the actual item but it probably goes along with what their details on what they meant about it so okay okay okay okay anything else oh well thank you so
much I appreciate your time it was a pleasure to meet you um I might stop in your next meeting too I'll check the calendar because I this is your regular meeting day and time right okay yeah so I'll probably U make it a point to try to stop and then um well was nice to meet you all ask question how many
commissions do you have um I think I have five Al together um but not all of them U well yeah there there was quite a list um but not all of them have regular meetings um so we were trying to kind of split everybody up um so um I think like
I have like DPW and our tree Warden but they don't have like regular in same person um but they don't have regular meetings and he already went through his list so it makes my job easy but um but yeah so very good great well thank you so much I appreciate it I will let your
other guest come up switch thank you it's nice to meet you all are you guys okay with that plan to do our top our our lead actions by April 1 email them to you yeah yeah and then the other all the support ones by do you
want my hard you want you want everybody's opinion on us yeah right yeah definitely you my um sure I'm done okay you got your got your name on there that's good chrisy come and join us yeah why
not so I work with a guy named Marty banish oh okay and I asked him if you knew with Christy vanish well there's another one that's not he said he's a sister yeah and I said well he's coming tonight yeah I married into the vanish
I'm not an actual vanish I'm a Buller actually from but there's no buers my family all moved sopic so anyway so this will be too much but
Bert Dan Jen Deb Jess Zack and lenita so you're part of um friends of the rail trail friends yeah and so I just have very limited an understanding of what you want to do you're looking into
outdoor activities for people yeah so kind of looking at the bigger picture it sounds like I was listen um you know some of the commissions in different groups have similar kind of matched interest and it seems like um you know
by point where like where maybe there's things we we should be trying to help one another out with um in in different ways um and you know just been doing it since 2011 like the volunteer for the friend grp we kind of help maintain it we
maintain the kiosk we kind of keep an eye out help with different things um with a little bit of funding we do different extra things like the town maybe they just don't do you know um funds so um and then there's there's some parts where you know we do tracking
and observe a lot of people um using the trail like are outdoor people but we kind lose a lot of them are more 50 and older um and then you get the younger with the little ones and so feel like part of it I thought was like getting Outdoors we're losing like the whole
middle section for volunteers and that are that don't really maybe you don't want them to lose the appreciation of the outdoors so um my thought was um there's some things like we also could share time like and so actually we're
going to have our cleanup April 26 and so we're to do that with um that the new group which someone who volunteer first years is part of the um south of land trust so we're going to combine that um I went to the conservation committee because I think there's also too we have
kios and um you know there's certain things that's how you guys I didn't realize you guys manag the the gardens there so that's how me to you guys um so there's some parts where I think we could help in um promoting Outdoors
people being active um families getting it out there um in regards to the kiosk but also um just there there is a federal safe routes to school which has a lot
about pedestrian and um walking and it also has kind of like these Master plans where there's in some of the master plans when talking to school they're trying to connect to the trail to the rest of the community to the parks so there's some grants love to see the town do with that um and connect and then
there's the economic development this you know try and connect so they're going to put some some signs out on the trail and other parts of the um the town which I think would be beneficial um so I'm thinking with the with the Farms um
you know curious like with the um Community Gardens looking at trying to do something in the kiosk who maybe design something which not big but you know about that size where people can have um
kind of linked to if you guys you know um with the self analy property like the these are other places there's not just the real troles there other things in town that you can access for like hiking biking or whatnot um I think the bigger
picture I guess I'd love separate is is the education part I love the idea of the high school um part I really don't know but um you know it seems like approachable I don't know how they I know they complete entity but kind of like starting from elementary up to
working things like um you know go other states like M they have like little gardens that they have Elementary and then Middle School too you know the things like with the be where you have little section where you grow I'd love to see that like so I think we don't lose that appreciation of um the
outdoors um and also we talked to Emma who's the she's the new um principal and her husband is the principal at Powder Mill but um you know the safe routes connected with so they're going to do some education to go
in and do about bike safety and um walking to young kids and then Hing can work up to Middle School eventually maybe something with a high school um but I'd love to see where they will like have things like not organized there yet
but like this coming week they have like the um parents coming in and mostly Elementary Middle School you have them coming most of the parents come in for their teacher conferences and they can post a table that's where if you have the the garden thing and I don't know
there's only I think they told me 12 slots that are kind of like not completely full right but there's also you know with conservation Mission if there's certain events you guys are going to do or promote you could we can have like a table and have not just a bike the bike trail but it should be
maybe the conservation lands it should be about outdoor is farming too so if there's something like open Farm day if there's open Farm day or you're doing something with the library we can not just promote it through the LI if things are organized enough and we can do that you know I'm thinking for next year I
said we're not ready for this year we're just kind of throwing out that idea but then we could have that table and it could be you know for all that we have to get it approved through the school too so you know superintendent so doesn't violate anybody offend anybody you whatever so I was to get the green
light when I've done that in the past um with the events but I would love to do it I would rather than just doing us solely as the bike and bike safety we could do that and if safe rout to school actually has somebody to hire and they they do that there's less for us do we could do a table we could plan for that
and you know we could you guys could come up and we can design like like brochures or like I know QR codes are great too like if there certain things which the economic develop I think that's going to be great where you will they'll have the signs and they can QR
them from like businesses to the the conservation lands and they just click it you know when they're go on the trail they can they'll pull up and they're going to work on that I guess I'd love to see it working right now on the website it just has like you can't really you can't you know I do running
and likeing things and so it's great when you can gradually work up and I know it's work I'm not a tech fee person you you can click on it don't be so much for you guys but like other than ging you can click on that property and if there's Trails you can like pull it up and down on your phone or if you want to
print out PDF you can turn it into PDF so those type of things i' love to see um the town too and a couple things um we actually have a a brochure called the the Farm trail brochure and there several farms around town there a map
but it also includes hiking trails so we're a little bit in the direction that you're talking about and interestingly enough um Lyn Blair the library director says the exact same thing about the age group they get they get kids and older people
and not the middle you lose yeah yeah yeah so that's where I think and so you're not going to get them at the live it's gonna be hard to pull them into the library but you might be able to catch them at the school if you guys are thinking of doing something next year I mean I love to do if there's enough kids
that want to do an outdoor like club and it is partly like gardening and like they can get a bus like they do with a sports where they can go to the sasis and do the trails one day and they go to The Gorge and do another and they go to you know the the um New England trail
and do like that you know so it's not it's an outdoor but it's not not everybody's into competitive Athletics put that way so this would be like it might be an alternative and it might be great yeah I mean I know we don't have an Agra um school so I don't
know but there might be some kids that just you know want to learn how to do gardening so um because otherwise um you know I don't I do go they go to they go to lower P Valley well they'll go off yeah the ones that really want to that's where my son yeah they'll go off they
don't stay Theo there is no education there so you have to go but but they do have they do half a day at the high school I don't think they do have a day he did half a day at the high school and half a day at low valley and he did the landscape and Horticulture yeah so if
they could have something it's in West Springfield over on Bush Road I was thinking Smith was the only no they wouldn't let him go to Smith back then they they didn't offer because you had to drive yourself where they bust to lower power Valley that's
great I didn't know my son Mark that works for Lita did he did the whole High School his whole High School there it was Lifesaver well when you have somebody who it's not common but when you have someone who wants to work outside yeah
and you don't have a school that offers it yeah they you know they have there are more kids that do yeah see not farming per se but I mean there are some girls I know that are going not sure which one they're going to I don't know but yeah um we have friends whose kids grand kids go up to Smith but that's
because they do the animal that's what I think it is I think that's a group girls yeah they're like right in and they and they but you have to go to Smith for that because they don't have the animals over in West Springfield but it'd be great I mean I not a farmer my husband's they rent out
the land but my I grew up as a kid who my dad still Farms to stay and we Shu peas and we froze and you know so I I mean it is a different time and ER but I think um there might be appreciation for that might be so you know a small group
of kids so it's worth shot I actually had one at the the classes that I've been doing at the library um I had one on Monday uh that on seeding how to seed we had done plan your garden was last month and then seeding was this month
and um there was a gentleman who showed up with I would say she was his daughter and and probably maybe 14 15 I was really surprised that was the first young person in the three things I've had over there that a young person it came with a father but um that's nice to
see I mean it was open to anyone at the library so you guys have some good stuff um it was nice to have you know somebody that I I thought oh my because it I used to teach and it is hard to get that age group High School age group is really a
hard group they might do the hiking but it it's hard to get them interested in but I don't know it's a thought I know it would take time this is a year you can CCH start them young if you can start I mean my kids are now one's going
to graduate this but I don't they did the water cycle there wasn't any a whole lot of Hands-On about you know that's something why does our town not compost leaves there's no like like compulsing unless you do it on your land like
things like that teaching things like composting to like little plots of land of how to you know compost resert like you know to like keeping open for the bees so you have like to pollinate um that I think there there's opportunity I
don't know the school can't because I'm not a teacher but you know I think that would be you start young age and you kind of work up and you have it a plan so it kind of ties in but you know it's a curriculum segment the other having been a science
teacher they not here but I was a science teacher in West Springfield they should they should be covering they should be covering that it should certain yeah it should be it's part of the the state's curriculum but unfortunately not everybody is is excited about it or gets involved in it as much not every teacher does it as
wholeheartedly as others true I guess because I mean I've taught in West Springfield and Springfield and we had stuff like that going on but that's because I was a fanatic you know and I me that's the way not every science teacher is yeah no I'm
sure there's a but yeah I would whatever I so my thing is basically we're we're if we have some in the kiosk I guess and if we can somehow collaborate with certain things and sharing of that like all I can think is the kios for us and you know if we are going to do um
hopefully my next year doing more get out get outdoors and people have their certain events or um if there's plots and you want to post and they're going to have allow us to have a table like at the we just might need more people because we are very small
our group um you know but the middle school is going to have and the elementary because you're it's not worth going to the teacher conference I think really at the high school I most parents don't really go at that point I think but you know you might there's enough people traffic at think going in out if
you had table people wanted to stop in and take a picture of whatever you know um their plots for you guys I think mean the plots or if there is certain events like you're having at the library and you know can have it could have that conservation can have their stuff and we
can have our real stuff yeah you could try getting a a table at the town meeting there's GNA be a town meeting in May you might oh is that the is that the is that the one yes yeah yeah that's true yeah I mean I'm not sure what their
guidelines are about who can be there or not I didn't even think of that one yeah because there's not a lot of events there's the Arts and event we're trying to figure out um but yeah whe where you can have a t we should
say keep in mind our uh fourth is it going to be our fourth annual open Farm Day this year yeah is that really was it September when was that September a it was August okay third Sunday of August
so the 18 this year so just keep that in mind yeah well yeah absolutely yeah we tend to go to yeah I just had a couple questions you're looking for next year like not this year and then you mentioned a kios
you're were talking about the the kios on the trail we have three we actually have a fourth which it got destroyed so many times analyed we kind of stopped maintaining it but we do have a gentleman from West Hood who actually maintains it and he's a unicyclist so he
is a birer so we're going to trial it this year and like um put up one David um from the parking record he's gonna put up one so we can kind of put in things about the birds but we have that
K so if there is like something um it's just but we right now we have um there's four windows and there is the historical posters in the three three different things and then we have like a generic
we did a blow up of like this so the um South SE section of the trail um and then there's a old business map which I want to take down um um kind of like kind of merging for the sou stuff um and start a grip for the whole there's the
nonprofits from New Haven to Northampton so we now have an Alliance Group all the friends group from there all way up to North Northampton because there's a lot of going on um nationally as well as regionally with um connecting up trails and extending it like long trails from
our trail goes all the way up to Northampton and now goes to mass Cent Trail which is like building out to Boston and K building out a trail to go to Hammond asset they're working on now and they're working on the airline trail that goes all the way from East
Harford to the other side to palfrey um and they're connecting to mass again and they're trying to connect there's a cross trail trying to connect so there's a lot going on um that's not because they do have hiking trails at
the be something to mention I don't know how many if it's good to have a lot of people hike out there but like I mean it's open yeah you guys actually has Trail Mark like when I look on their map they actually have Trails where some of them might not know about it up there I
didn't you know used to hike it all the time several older ladies we used to go up there and Hike it all the time I've nevered actually got like it yeah well I want to keep guys definitely but yeah thinking of that you know whatever we
can do to to promote it like I said in the kiosk and then I'll be curious to see if the rail trail to Boston gets built or the East West there's a gentleman who's committ a lot of his life um and is very invested and he's donated some of basically when
he went to real estate and he he's been really but he is hitting road block um in the western like where and there because it's a little hard to the Eastern side is I think the when you live in the city they really appreciate
real the the L to get out you know so and they've been able to connect them to electric lines and that's a great thing yeah re using the landan not just for Rail lines but also for putting the rail Trails um connecting engine so
that's yeah okay very good well thanks yeah thank you great work I mean I know I don't ever go to commission but I'm learning now hope all goes well and um I don't know I you I can leave my information on that or or if
you have mine actually oh I have your email yeah so you can just yeah if there's something you want to add into or we can design or whatever put in the cast like for the program definitely thank you thanks stoping in yeah
BL okay actually doing better timelines than I thought we might that's pretty cool yeah yeah I mean a lot of people don't know about the sanowski and almost nobody knows about the community garden right know what's been on website and Facebook
and you know the town crier sign at GIS Mill you anyway we've tried uh so the farm hop um you've been back in touch with Cara cartello right I left her a message living letting her know what we're
working on um and then we would get back to after we found out everything and I think we found out everything through that email link um he's been including me in the link that almost you know like the lawyer yeah so we went through
select board to get to the Town Council and uh made the point that we've discussed here that if it's a retail operation like Lenas or Cali they're already a compant well what if we go to
a farm that isn't uh and so the attorney that got assign assigned to it had some concerns about that but apparently if we have people sign a waiver okay um he feels it would be okay is there like a boiler plate waiver yeah he said
standard so I'll ask him for that or get online I just kind of Wonder though if that'll be a little bit of a turnoff to the seniors getting on the van and saying oh you're taking me someplace dangerous
yeah think somebody mentioned um doing an open Farm day I know Cara was talking about only having it during the day during the week if we did an open Farm Day special trip all the all the everybody's more centralized on the
outside where tents where they could visit the tent you know with the with the vehicle you know they can visit those spots and learn about the Farms that way on a Sunday you know what I mean you know um but I didn't know if that's a popular
thing for them on a Sunday saying that they utilize the senior center during the yeah are they open on the weekends at all I don't think they think so like Saturday mornings maybe I don't think I don't think they're open on the
weekends at all so we'll have to look into that one because that would be perfect because everybody has the tents outside they you just visit the tent and you know um get information that way or whatever for the Farms that don't have
the the access so but um yeah so if you want you you know we can set up a time with Cara and ask and kind of get her take on it and
see she was hoping to start advertising if we're going to start in June or July advertise starting in April or something so yeah that's right we I know like the deadlines for their newsletter yeah and
so I guess certainly ask her and get a hold of her and say hey can we just set up a meeting you know whoever wants to be at the meeting can go and just like kind of discuss the next step you know so would you plan to go to like one Farm
like a month or would it be you're trying to go to more than one I don't know like hop around too much yeah it would be like maybe two so they would maybe only have to sign a waiver then in certain circumstances if that's they just do a blanket for the whole season
oh that would be like a generalized you're gonna sign up for these field trips it's good for the year or whatever yeah yeah that's what I was kind of like thinking like if it was going to be you know hopping bopping
around from Farm to farm in in the same trip or if it was just gonna be like we initially thought that but and then thought be too much you got so got 200 Acres of a Down oh yeah we'll
show some people around yeah on a certain Sunday yeah yeah and that's why I was thinking open Farm day would be a perfect opportunity for Farms like that you know definitely want to um introduce them to that and
have them have that opportunity so um but yeah we can move forward to the next yeah get in touch with car Cara and yeah when she's available sure yep and my question was you asked about if uh if a committee
could fund another committee did you ever get that answer can we sponsor another committee I didn't exactly get an answer because we were talking about the only cost really would be you know gas for the van and maybe the driver driver the
drivers apparently now are mostly volunteers yeah so didn't really get that answer yeah yeah I mean it wouldn't be that much if anything I mean and I don't think we would charge
the seniors anything I'm hoping that we don't a lot of times when they go places they it's $2 or $4 then they they go to a restaurant or something and they buy their own lunch that's the other thing buy Pur
yeah we could on if there is an issue with you know commission to commission we could get money out of the excuse me get money out of the gift account yeah that's taxpayer money
per but are we allowed we can use the gift money on anything I thought we were supposed to use it people gave it yeah so we do have to charge like a buck yeah so we'll see you know we can talk to some of the sponsors and say hey
if we use your money for X Farm I'm excited that they're able to we're able to do it cool yeah yeah okay good good so I'll call her and set up a meeting I'll let you guys know when it
is do it half hours but I don't know if she can do it after I don't know what is it someh close is at 4:30 yeah um Senior Center people leave sometimes before that yeah well just a certain meeting for yeah I don't know if she
stays there all day but this is just at meeting with her like particular setting up the whole thing yeah I mean check with her she might be will to stay a little bit late they yeah me in the parking lot like we did last
night random people in the parking lot now taking pictures by the bus right yeah so um yeah I get out at 2:30 every day so I can don't you not anym oh not
anymore oh yeah four o'clock or no past your bedtime yeah yeah Dan has a new job did you start no till the end of the month okay where you going you doing Advanced manufacturing what's
up they do military and Aerospace parts that local right that's I actually think I know somebody who just went there my old my past guy named Felipe
actually Felipe I'll find him probably Noto many Felipe he actually originated from the dino noell in Mexico but then he worked at Simsbury and I think he works there
now that's a new job that's besides the point okay so the community garden update this this will be pretty quick I think one one thing I want to mention it came up when we were talking with Christy about people hiking and the S
asking now the snow is almost all gone and there's people there there were there were people there all day today I se people that's right you see see yeah wet back there in the middle of summer
dry and actually the community garden still is about half of it is covered with snow yeah the dark spot yeah that tree line right exactly so we did get um as we talked last time about uh getting more supplies
for the community garden the fence posts and Stakes everything so we got uh 16 more 4x4s and 16 more of those Stakes that the 4x4 goes into but now yeah but they didn't they weren't there they came separately they're in the garage they're
in the garage now I'll some other okay yeah and um so I think we have 2x4s we got I don't know 12 2x4s or something okay oh those already they came y they came with okay that's to
rebuild the gates the gate yeah so I believe let's see so 12 and 16 so we have 28 4x4s now that'll do like half the garden if we can get the Manpower are they 8T long yeah so you cut them in
half two of them I don't know I think four feet might be a little short and the fence now is it's taller than me like six something ni but you have to post in the ground right now yeah they away that's
that's a yeah yeah so did the prices come down on that's Stu about the same as last year yeah do you extra treat the post at the moms no they weren't treated po I don't
think original these are yeah these are we have medic Stakes now go They're not going to be in the ground at all now right and then but the the the post we're getting are treated I know but pressure treated now it's only guaranteed for 10 years yeah that's all
because they can't use the good chemicals anymore right right I cat ours again I get a pressure treated it's a environmentally friendly one out of California it's what they use oh yeah and I it's a copper one and I get it and
I treat any posts that I put in because I'm like 10 years is not enough I don't want to be doing these again years and um yeah I got some and I I have to order it through Mo because it's
the only place that has it and it you soak it on good onto the bottoms and it you don't paint it you don't paint it on you can paint it on or you can soak it on either way deeper if you soak it right yeah if you soak it right right so
but it does it's supposed to it it's antifungal anti anti mildew UV protectant um insecticidal but it's it's environmentally okay through California's laws which are the
strictest I think for any of those things and so that's what I use for the posts around like my grapes and other things I use I started using it and it works you know works fine it I figure it's just Extra Protection because when I read that pressure treated would only
last 10 years I'm like well that doesn't doesn't seem like it's long enough um yeah and I'm I don't know was before my time but um the existing post says treated lumber and they've been
there for close 10 years right yeah I think so maybe even a little longer might be they've done their Duty in war a lot of them are like like this now held up by the by the the wire the
the plastic well something that would you might consider too if the new ones go in is just treating the posts regularly so that they don't even above ground you know doing something on them because it
it I mean it would save you a lot eventually yeah not having to replace them again even painting them yeah yeah I mean even with anything now I mean for decks and stuff they're saying you really have to treat them every two
years sometimes three years I mean there's not much that lasts because everything is environmentally friendly it just doesn't it doesn't work as well as the old stuff did and so do you understand what we got these Stakes yeah the metal things and then they got a 4x4 top on them so you get those ground
level and you put the 4x4 and screw into it right okay right that's great but even I mean it'll decompose even if it's not touching the dirt beat they split and they're a mess but it's just something to consider if you want to make them last longer and not have to
replace them all that often is just you know every couple years put some sort of a sealer on them treat them with something and nowadays they're using the copper based stuff stuff that seems to the microbes don't like yeah it kills off
any kills off just about everything that tries to get at them yeah okay that's good info um oh we actually have our first first PL reservation it's Jean nson our former secretary her husband retired and I
guess he needs things to do should we set a date for like a a working day yeah don't this yeah now April 26 okay what does well let's see now we've
done it in the sanowski one that we did you near the pond or that was a Sunday do we think Sunday is a good Sundays usually work pretty well we got to wait a little bit for the for the ground to get the end of April
yeah yeah or the end what about the end of March that's pretty that's pretty soon that's like next week Frost night might not be Hest everything up there well I thought last week was the 12th so
I gained a so today a 12 we all lost an hour and you gained a week yeah I Tex Burt and I'm like I can't make it either thanks for a second I was like Am I Wrong do
I oh God I gotta go to the me what a group I'm just saying maybe the 30th I just was looking at that too um 30th 30th of March that's a Sunday it's sounds like a right number it's it's two
weeks away two and a want do post and stuff then oh I can't think that one sorry want do the posts a couple at least might still be frozen though yeah think frozen now well yeah that's two weeks of 50 Dee weather
could be yeah well let's how about if we sort of pencil it in we can do yeah we do things check out the pump and everything too yeah yeah yeah right looks
like I can make it on the 30th oh you can good Saturday was when I'm not available but yeah if you guys do that date I'm just saying the sooner the better sure and then you know when it gets into April maybe we can set another
and see if we put a couple more posts in I think we'll be able to put a couple posts in yeah yeah I wonder if we'll need um Ron has an augur for his tractor right no we won need no okay just drive him in drive in
okay and he'll come with his tractor too yeah some mowing King yeah um I'll probably need the brush hog again you know by then we'll see
yeah hopefully hopefully you can just turn turn yeah I yeah might be really for tilling but anyway again we'll see um how's R doing good it's getting better feeling a lot
better that's good okay uh just a few uh FYI oh no no we got to do minutes sorry February 12 February 12 yeah I have a few copies I are kind of killer this the one
Cindy just sent yeah little bit killer because we had Jeff Smith talking about that project at 32 Hillside so miss I not I went down there the uh
last weekend I noticed nothing's going on no okay we about their meeting with conservation yeah they the conservation they did yeah oh good yeah so I thought they'd start right away they sound like they wanted to the ground being still
frozen now it's definitely going to get muddy yeah um let's see we waited too long they should have done that back in December or something you
know actually we're in touch with Sabrina in conservation back then and she told them the dates of when things happen yeah hey everybody's name is spelled right that's good that's a good Leno has an e
yeah oh Jeff is not with what's what's he with put [Music] it I bring my ni anyway that's that's not the name of the company and I can't think of
that what s El Associates that what you're talking about yeah yeah it's salvini or something like that it was on that paper that packet he gave us yeah I I should have brought that Ed me
might be the email to originally son of gett second page it says Ryan's Tree Service y good catch Ryan Duncan on around oh yeah a double plural means is good her I know here it is salvini
salvini so now we know how to spell know okay good well I wasn't here for this meeting but there's definitely something wrong with page three because it says that uh she's been a member of Souix Board of Health on and off since 198 she's old so I think something's a
Miss no you weren't at that meeting it's right yeah I think 1998 speculate something here we can check talk where is it fourth line page three yeah page three fourth
line 19 oh when are we getting our agricultural commissioner licenses when I took that training they said you can't use your license to get out of a ticket you need never know get pulled over agult
yeah badges unless there's a lot of oh so you're not supposed [Music] to okay I'm sorry I thought it was with an S well our email has an S on it because it is plural more than one of us
when we got it back an AOL we got those when when the addresses were first coming out for email and we we just made us plural because everybody we all shared all five of us shared the same email address back then cool and so it
was hum D humph so there was more than one of us that's all right they always spelling my husband's name in town I S he's been ey and he was on it for 35 years and they they're still like just ey oh my
goodness a minute under budget hearing information second line says German Hansen oh read that too andman I actually am a little bit German but that's one of those spell check
things just kind auto correct Auto yeah auto correct lately has just been did I see alligators yeah down third there third from the bottom okay see if it's possible to Alligator some of the money from gips account to other
accounts I just like talk to tax her okay okay oh it probably is you can get the transcript from YouTube wondering because it records to YouTube and then YouTube automatically
transcribes might just be aint out on that might be think that's it fun ones alligator yeah 198 I don't think it is though because it wouldn't
say like who was talking I don't edit for sure but it would be a good place to start yeah or you run through Ai and have it oh yes doctor okay the master plan agricultural
commission is the lead on four items and support on 34 items right it's not it's not four
out of the 34 it's four plus 34 the bottom of that page uh minutes motion was made blah blah blah to accept the accept right yeah oh now the next oh what's going on
with this anyway at the top of I guess page four now you're L you're lentia oh yeah Y and the second the Petro under a motion made isn't
capitalized oh yeah everyone's being effect that lentia it's a typ of bean there it is again there it is another one okay it's right where you signed and and
the last page too that was copied and pasted guess other than that they're good that's a lot of notes right there yeah so let me just okay so I'll make a motion to accept the
minutes of February 12 2025 as amended second the motion okay so we call vote BT Hansen I Zack I reita I Jess uh I guess I'm abstaining I wasn't here that meeting okay so you can abstain that's
okay Dan hi Jen hi okay oh and let's see Sage you still with us I okay don't be so enthusiastic uh uh and Tom I know you joined a while ago yeah I joined uh I don't think I was at that
meeting either but you know sounded fine what you guys corrected okay so well we'll actually put you down as an exstension yeah good yeah but she can't vote no I just noticed her name up there like
actually I'm being reminded here of something that I wanted to oh the chapter 61 I've been reaching out to uh our contacts at mdar that we worked with with before they aren't mdar isn't really directly connected with that
apparently um this uh guy Tyler maaf M AI k a t he's our G son now gave me a a fairly long email it's not long email but a lot of a lot of um
references to places where chapter 61 uh experts would be so I haven't had a chance to follow up on that yet but I think was he's in charge of the APR he does the APR inspections for okay yeah
okay now um no he did oh yeah since I his signature thing down here okay yeah APR stewardship planner okay uh so if we were to have another Workshop I mean it's getting
they're already getting busy right if we could let's see this is March 12th if we could pull it off should that be at all doable an evening like Wednesday you think I I know you're only
one farmer but I I mean I guess yeah okay well we'll see well it sounded like there was you know at the Farm Forum that there were other people interested also just information you
know I mean would you open it to the public or I mean all our meetings are well actually our workshops are not usually public we don't record it or anything uh the public come um and maybe if we do it you know Granville and other towns might
farmers in other towns might want to yeah well you don't I mean technically you don't have to actually like do a lot of farming I don't think to even get it in that designation in a 61a what six acres
yeah I can't remember you know I mean people people might do that for other re not if they're like a big farm or something but they might do it I don't know I think you have to have some you have to have some agricultural income but it can be someone yeah you got prove
like $400 right but I have to sign 61a papers for people that I rent land so as long as even if they're not farming it if somebody is farming it and they sign off so good which is also a good thing for people to know that they might not
realize that they can do that so right right okay well talk along see if we can get that together soon as possible um okay a couple of FYI things on
speaking of mdar on the um mass.gov website that says that um Tuesday March 18th is a day at the state house and there's no other information about what that is so I wanted to just in ined I me
there is I think there's a I think the there's a library day too and you're I used to be on the library trustees and you would the idea was to go talk with your legislators about issues that you have so I that's
March 18th is a little soon it is pretty soon yeah there's an explore farming Workshop uh it's an online thing with mdar on April 1st and I was wondering if if the going to record that and if we
could use little some of that video maybe for what we're talking about with the schools after school thing um and then uh plant seed and supplies swap at the library on May
3rd is she looking for volunteers for that day I'm sure she is probably oh that's mened I don't know if she she said if we wanted to but I might reach out to her see if she needs any well she had it listed too for taking in
stuff was the days before that there was oh yeah it was on a on the library link yeah there's a little fire about it right when when she was like taking in seeds or taking in Plants it wasad of would like some volunteers I'm sure okay
who wouldn't okay our next regular meeting is Wednesday April 9th so on Wednesday April 2nd I'll send you all a text saying that we're not meeting that
night I'm gonna put it in my calendar and not bother you guys Dan did I see that you have a baseball thing com up oh yes I'm sorry d I was look I was INRI yeah it's our home field is we're the Westfield Wheelman
and our home field is Hilltop Farm because it's so hard to get a field around here um so it's a farm so I figured have some kind of agricultural value to you guys I just showed everybody I asked him if he can put it
on the website yeah so that's good um we have four game we have four scheduled games there but uh June 14th and 15th we have eight teams coming from all
over New England oh w we got one team from Michigan coming wow be so it's a two-day event pretty cool y take a picture of it so the first one is in April April 26 April
26 and if you go on our our websites on that oh it'll tell you the time because we're not we didn't make up time J oh that's pretty interesting I think that would be fun to watch and a few years
ago uh we had an agricultural tour there it's pretty cool what they do with the farm there they it's owned by Suffield uh the town of Suffield they were going to bulldo that Barn over oh wow safield went in there and saved it they have
like an ice cream place then yep they got an ice cream okay I've seen that seen this on Facebook Top Farm anyway and I grew up there I lived there for 10 years my father was the herdsman and we had show cows
there is that when you won the award for best cow yeah I was Grand Champion 4 dairy animal I think [Music] 1977 yeah can I can I keep this one yeah okay yeah
good that's great they were doing a lot of construction went like that big building is that done yeah they sanded it they took all the paint off it redid it there was like they're throwing mushrooms there or something weren't
they no but they're thinking of it because one of the buildings looked like it was built for mushroom grow yeah sat down yeah it was pretty cool and uh they have a little chicken farm there they
have probably a couple dozen um pear trees apple trees and uh peach trees they grown out back and they're and that property goes all the way down to the Connecticut River Y and you should see their community garden
huge wow and it started out like a little plot like we had it's like four times that which is you know really cool they make a little money I don't know what it is same thing 30 bucks or something yeah
nice okay I had another fun fact okay if you don't have anything pressing okay my my husband went to the um tobacco research meeting today it was put on by nutrient a where was it um it was in summers this year okay and interestingly
they had a guest speaker from the FBI in New Haven come and they were very interested in anyone that could be kind of lurking around tobacco farms and potentially taking pictures or just
anyone that they felt was suspicious and didn't belong that they wanted they handed out business cards to give like get the license plate number and reach out to these FBI agents so I said to my husband I'm like okay well there has to be like more to this
story they didn't give a ton of information of course but they they said that there's people that are interested in learning the business and that they want everyone to keep an eye out on on these things and I
was like I mean I'm sure there's got to be more to this story right I'm sure like I don't know if people are trying to like grow their own operations and maybe the it's not I have the business card it's FBI and that's exactly what I said
I said it's weird that it's the FBI not ATF there's got to be some but how interesting for them to attend this meeting and speak about it so so there's just random people on
farms just like going through the I mean there's always random people F I can tell you that and taking pictures but I was like the but yeah that's basically like they handed out very plain business cards and I mean it's tobacco do you have
picture uh I don't but I can take I have it on my desk at home so I can uh share take the picture and text it to us yeah I'll share it when I get home we know who to call yeah I said oh my gosh you got business it's funny because he goes I was texting you the information I'm like a big like law law and order like I
went to school for criminal justice so he's texting me the information and I'm like of course you know I couldn't be at the meeting to listen to this and he was like so I'm texting you this in the middle of the meeting and the card just flat comes over my shoulder he was like she was probably reading my text messages to you about it yeah just
thought that was interesting thought you were gonna say they were looking for migrants no no no that wouldn't be FBI either are trying to buy up tons of far what's a la doing that taking pictures
of somebody oh I just want to trespassing maybe but yeah right I took pictures of tobacco Farms byone truly I said to my H I'm like the amount of people that do like stop and take pictures of I'm sure it's more of like a if you
consistently see you know this person on your land person for was like a profile they just said yeah very vague it was very very vague but I my specific to Tobacco
so I don't know I mean there has been Farms that some of the ba mainly been honestly workers yeah yeah you know it's not hasn't been that's a strangest
thing same thing and I was like I have to like what was this really about right now he what's going on yeah so I don't know thought that was very interesting that is cool yeah that is intriguing damn that's a little
better in my baseball as you find out more I don't think I will find out more but unless I have you know someone to call about maybe I can hey Tit for Tat here but interesting but yeah I I thought that
was very interesting they trying to hide pop plant in between the tobacco leagues don't even still you wouldn't think the FBI would be involved it was very strange to me that it was the FBI not how exciting I said oh man but yeah
I'll I'll text you the looking up even the business card when you see it you're GNA be like really I mean it looks like it doesn't look real honestly it was legitimate thing wow that's very so I don't really know
butzy more you know anybody else have any um anything that story well I work for hold on really quick I work for the um um financial office and I got audited by Jack Daniels he I'm like this is not you like I work
for John Han he's like no I need more than that I'm like you can't just come in with a card Jack anyways it was just funny funny I was in natural last week everything was Jack oh yeah you R
vacation we actually went for a conference my wife this company that um she uses their software I tag along fre stuff oh that wasn't Germany no inside joke well we probably should have joined the meeting so Tom and Sage can
stop listening in here Sage is see you Tom Sage better we have to have a motion I'll make a motion toour the meeting second oh those favor night everyone all right see you everyone
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