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Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=KDHUNNw9TAI

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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: KDHUNNw9TAI):
- 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order; Agenda and Introductions
- 00:01:21: Health Director's Report: Violations Observed at Property
- 00:06:55: Clarification: Timeline and Non-Emergent Case Explanation
- 00:09:05: Necessary Items for Health Approval; Questions for Gupta
- 00:10:09: Mina Gupta's Statement: Construction and Safety Concerns
- 00:19:14: Gupta's Rebuttal: Temple Area Complete, Plumbing Ready
- 00:23:39: Addressing Sanitary Code, Hot Water, Smoke Detectors
- 00:25:15: Explaining Safety Concerns; Single Parenting Struggles
- 00:28:01: Living Situation; Restroom Usage; Portable Toilet Needed
- 00:29:50: Plumbing Approval Needed; Double Checking Needed
- 00:32:00: Condemnation Order Motion; Final Inspection Needed
- 00:33:19: Reading Condemnation Hearing Notice; Questions for Kaen
- 00:33:51: Explanation of Condemnation Order and Re-Inspection


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I'd like to call the call call the meeting to order. This is a public hearing. Um and this is this is what we'll do. We're going to first hear from Kaen as the health director and and for the for the recording, can you say your

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name please? >> And you're here as a property as the property um occupied. >> Okay. Okay. So, what we'll do is we'll listen to her report, what she saw when she was out at your property. Then we'll

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give you a chance to speak. Then we'll close and if anybody's online and they want to do a public comment or comes in person, we will let that happen. But then we'll we're we're we'll go into um a discussion among the board members,

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which right now are the two of us, Dr. Leiniac and me, Dr. Putnham. Um, we will ask questions of Kaen, we'll ask questions of you, uh, if we have any, and then we'll come to a decision as to what the next steps should be. Is

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everybody in agreement and understanding of that? Okay, Kaylee, I will turn it over to you. >> So, I'm Kayen Simons, the health director here for the town of Southwick. Um, I received a call from our building inspector on April 30th. um re he had

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received a call from the Woodland principal asking for the certificate of occupancy status for 85 Granville Road. The school principal suspected that her student did not have hot water, electricity, etc. in her email. Um so I did reach out to due to that being

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health concerns as well as building concerns, I went and did speak to the woodland principal on that day. Um, her and I spoke at length about the situation in the home and the son stated to his teacher that sometimes he sleeps in the basement of his home. The school

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principal says the child was deemed homeless at the beginning of the school year because the mom was building her home here in Southwick, but had another residence in Awam and stated that they sometimes stay at her friend's house in Simsbury, Connecticut. But to the school's understanding at that time, she

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was issued a certificate of occupancy from the town of Southwick's building inspector, but she has not uh the the residence does not have a co at this time. Certificate of occupancy. So all supporting documents show Mina Gupta and

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her son who is age six are the only occupants of the residence. Um so the building inspector and myself went out for initial comprehensive inspection back on April 30th. Again, the CO was never issued for the residents. A final plumbing, a final electrical, and a

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final building inspection had not been received at that time of initial inspection. So, the owner, this is an H style home, what we call. So, the front is a section, it's going to be a place of worship and then a kitchen, and in the back section are the two dwelling

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units. So, the two ba uh bedrooms as well as a bathroom and a play area. Um, so the owner told the building and health inspector that they sometimes stay in the basement during the day while the son attends school. Um, so the

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inspector I did observe many things that show that there was occupying the residents more than just during the day. So I I observed toothbrushes in the bathroom in one section near the two sinks. I observed

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loofah, body wash, hand soap. Um, I questioned if bathing was happening outside. I did observe in the basement of the dwelling occupying of the residence, including kitchen equipment, mini fridges, hot tubs, um, foods, butter,

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seasoning spices utensils cooking equipment, personal medications, toys, children's toys, clothes, all items that would lead you to thinking that somebody was living in a dwelling. as well as there was electrical space heaters. Um a

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garden hose was attach attached to the well pump because none of the um there were no ways to get running water out of that there was no kitchen. Everything is being built at this time. So it's uh definitely residents under um construction.

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There was a commode observed with over 12 rolls of toilet paper and water bottles supplied. The occupant when asked where the waste is being emptied was, you know, obviously to that commode that was uh lined with trash bags. The owner did state that her and her son

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do sleep in Simsbury, Connecticut with that with friends or at hotels. Stated they never sleep at the residence. I was unable to test hot water supply during the time of inspection um because there's no operable facility or way to do so because there's not a kitchen or

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an operating sink. um there was not an operating toilet or kitchen or shower or tub which is all things that are required to reside in a dwelling. So at this time a final electrical inspection has passed that happened on May 13th.

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The plumbing inspector tried to go out today on 518 but did not conduct because the plumbing the plumber for the residence was not able to attend. A temporary CO can be issued for up to 6 months. So say whenever the final

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plumbing occurs and passes a final or a temporary CO to occupy the residence can occur once we have building buyer and myself approve the dwelling to be fit for human habitation but at this time I would recommend the board that this is not a place that people can sleep. Um,

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there's no hot water, there's no bathroom, there's no sinks, there's no tub, there's no shower, there's no smoke detectors. So, at the time of inspection, there were no smoke detectors or fire detectors. And that immediately is addressed with the fire

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chief who was made aware at the time of inspection. Um, so that was my initial I have not gone back for a reinspection just because we were still waiting on the final electrical and the final plumbing inspection. But again, final electrical did pass. So now we're just waiting for

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that final plumbing and then the building fire and myself can go out to deem it fit for human habitation. But I think for the board right now, the condemnation would be to say at this time you would need to secure and vacate the residence and that nobody should be residing in the dwelling because it is

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unfit for human habitation at this time. It's not to say very quickly that it won't be able to have somebody live in it, but at this time due to my inspection and the things I saw, um, the board was made aware and and was sent all my documents prior to the meeting, but or the hearing, I should say. But at

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this time, the violations listed, um, there were 22 violations noted at the time of inspection, 20 were what we call conditions deemed to endanger health and human safety. Um, and the reason that this was deemed a non-emergent case was because there was evidence that there

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was residing in this residence since the beginning of the school year when her son began to attend Southwick schools. So, in the start of the school year, so September timeline. >> Yes. >> So, if I have this right,

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>> you went out on 4:30, just to kind of summarize for for my benefit. Yep. >> You went out on 4:30 at the request of the school um uh because of of um homelessness that was identified um uh

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child report sleeping in basement. So the the um >> and the school was wondering the status of the certificate of occupancy. Okay. >> So they reached out to the building inspector but due to the health concerns reached out to me. >> Okay. So, we were waiting on final

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plumbing, final electrical to be able to issue um a certificate of occupancy. >> So far, we have the final electrical. That was a week or so ago. >> Yep. I I probably have lost track of my time. Um the plumber attempted or or you

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attempted to go out there or the plumber the plumbing inspector tried to go out today to do the final plumbing, but nobody was there. Um the plumber said he needed another day. >> Okay. >> So that has not been conducted yet. >> So potentially the plumber for the the

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home >> Yes. Supposed to come tomorrow. >> Yeah. >> Hopefully. >> Potentially. >> But our plumbing inspector is part-time. So it has to align with his schedule and his business. So it may happen tomorrow. It may happen Wednesday. >> And the plumber needs to be there when

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the inspector comes. I'm not sure they need to be there, but usually they like them there just in case there's things that they fix on site or things that could be quickly fixed and identified. >> Okay. >> If the plumber's on site and had those lined up, a temporary seal could have been given.

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>> Oh, you need fire. >> So, following plumber Yeah. So, following the plumbing inspection, plumbing fire. >> Yep. So the three of us following the final plumbing inspection could go out and if I see everything for my side for the health side, what I would need to

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see is an operating kitchen, a sink or shower or sorry, a tub or a shower, a sink, hot water, heat, and places that could occupy human residents. So, at the time of inspection, I also should note

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we saw an electrical panel wide open with the wires exposed, which is dangerous and a fire hazard, a health and safety hazard. So, I'd want to see that closed up and all the wiring unexposed. Um, >> would that have been covered with the electrical?

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>> Hopefully. Um, but at the time wish, >> yes, >> it did pass electrical inspection, so I'm assuming everything's closed up and all the wires are exposed, but I can't say that yet. I see. >> Sure. And what about the, you know, kitchen sink, tub or shower, um hot water. What about um toilets?

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Functioning toilet. >> A functioning toilet as well. >> Okay. Do you have any question? Touched on the basics. >> So, all the things that you need to reside. >> Okay. So, Miss Gupta, um what what what

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how would you like what what kind of information would you like for us to to kind of consider? Come right up. Hey, you can come sit here. >> Thanks ma'am. >> Okay ma'am. Uh first of all I did two

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mistake which um first um uh like I I want my boy to go this school woodland. So I came to the town in the town office because in last year May the builder Jeremy he took my money and he was not making my house last 4 year. I become

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homeless. I leave we live in the shelter one year. I sold my house in India. My mother sent me money. Whatever we have I invested all in this house and I give him all money and he said just one year it will be done. My mom was not well. I went to India 6 month all of a sudden

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and I gave him money. I thought I'll back my house with the ready. So I empty my five fashion awam house and all that stuff. I put my little garage shelter there's a shelter I put everything there and I give him key. I say I'm going India please get ready my house I paid

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you paid off everything. He said oh everything will be ready. I come back nothing was done. So I went leaving started living in his house builder house to see what going on. So I found that he doesn't work anymore. He's a mayor, a

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son of mayor. So he's using his power. He's no more builder. His license was cancelled. He put my money in the share market. Then I complained to the Kyle. The last >> finally I come here and I met the Kyle. I said this is the condition. I have a

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picture. He play video games at home. He has no more license to make my house and please help me out. I already paid off. So Kyle called him. We met at the town. So I was very hyper so I shouted. >> Yeah.

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>> He went home. I went to pick my son. The next day I feel like something wrong. So I put camera on my outside premises. I can cand watch. I was sitting then I started surveillance my house. I sitted outside

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in the car because that time nothing was there only u framing. So he came he said okay I'll start looking today I said okay I trusted and I went to pick my son to the child care

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in he used to go in Springfield we were living in shelter at that time so he pick all his stuff in the truck he filled and he run from my house he took all the things from my house I I was watching in a camera but I was very far

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I called police I have a complaint in the police station you can verify he f two times I called Police that time they reach he passed away but he passed the truck so he said this is my thing I took it I couldn't stop he took all

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everything empty my house nothing all material to make my house then he went home he write me breach of contract finish so then I hire my uh from my family they found someone from India in Rhode Island

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who is current my contractor he is my cousin because I was out of money and nobody to helps me. New new people are asking me $200,000 something big big amount. I already paid >> so my brother is helping me now to make house. I request him please start

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complete my house. I'll take you slowly slowly. So in from August he start he put my new permit. He took permit but problem he lives in rand. cannot come here to surveillance and get ready. He give me

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uh Palumbumber and electrician and he said she rock from island and local 2% he found part time because I don't have big money so I can finish like this. So they come part time because I pay less so I need to survance now my house. So

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the next door the person who died 83 you know that guy I purchased land from him. He complained me that there's one family used to come in my house every day and they go around and there's some college boys come they

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drink throw bottles. I made complaint to police and again in September I saw people are coming my house made the playhouse and that people what they do they drink and they pass through his house also. So he is also like uh he also made the complaint that this is not

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good people are coming and uh they're trying to capture my property in kind of that I I hire a lawyer that time they said that you have to be show that you are leaving there to people otherwise somebody can in and you cannot take them

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out because it's almost she rock installation sheetrock was done by them September then I used to I am I From the garage I put my stuff and keep it down. TV, sofa and all to show that okay somebody is

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here. And what I do I close my door from basement sometime to watch in the evening that who is coming surveillance sometime because there is one guy he took my wires from my house. He cut wires from my basement and who took

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away. He found that nobody lives there. Then I put the door. There is no door till January in the basement. I put door recently so people get to know Amazon because I have so many delivery you see outside there's so many stuff outside for uh to

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build house I buy from Amazon they drop they also get to know nobody leaves there so camera doesn't work sometime then I decided my boy started going to school I was living in a hotel Winster lock till that time till October uh

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September sorry I I asked principal to request my house this is under construction but he will go from my land I'll come in the morning he will come I'll ask the town they give me okay they they said okay I give me 6 month to ready house in September I met with

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accident my hand broke my leg broke so I couldn't work so to complete my house so I have to get a break for October November December 3 months I hold this plumbing and everything because I I had to dry one hand and they

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told me to admit in the hospital but some reason I don't want to leave my son so um like that from that time I stay from he go school because I cannot drive two times go come back come back so I waited

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till he come back from the school so slowly slowly then stay so much snow my heart couldn't complete stand too much snow so in March uh they completed bathroom the old guy he did the bathroom thing but the Spanish guy

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who did the bathroom thing they didn't put the tile inside so my tile was outside become freezed so now when sister came I told her even that bathroom is rebuilt because there's old bathroom outside and new there's a

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two bathroom there and because he's putting tile my mistake I didn't inspection done I thought let it be complete anyhow so in in basement I was sitting I told her also I'm waiting for the electrician. Electrician also took

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my stuff. So I what I do I because it's winter raining and all so I was using I didn't know that's my mistake because in my country if you're building house you can surveillance inside the house. So that's my mistake. I told you I didn't

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know and immediately I closed that area. I'm living now in a matar. And second mistake what I did a school teacher I went one month ago to school to drop him. She asked me you know what happened to the occupation certificate he cannot go next year. I got scared. I

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said oh I got it. I got it. But I got scared. So I lied. That's my biggest miss. So I didn't know she going to call here. I told her also that my mistake because I got scared you going to take kick me

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out from my son from the school. And if you don't have that any permanent like address you cannot go to school that's the big problem and being a single mother and not no not working I have business so nobody give me house I try everywhere but anyhow this house I'm not

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ready and now I'm ready for final occupancy not even temporary final all done >> okay >> I can show you pictures please don't >> we can go once once we get the final plumbing we can go for the final final >> still if you want Sure.

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>> And what about the agency? >> Kitchen sink. >> Okay. That's the case. That's in the front section. >> Yeah. Kitchen sink is done. >> This is all done. The temple area you can you came that area. >> Is that in the front? >> Yeah. All done.

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>> This is an H style home. So, this is the front of the >> front house is already done. Everything. >> Do you have um >> That's what I'm showing you. You know that hole you see this is fake. >> Okay. You filled all the holes. >> Yeah. You can see I will I make >> you filled them all in.

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>> Okay. >> Look flooring also that all flooring is done. >> Okay. >> Do you have it? >> This is bathroom and >> that's operable. That's working. Okay. >> That's why I'm ready for plumbing. >> I'm ready for plumbing. >> Okay. Do you have a refrigerator and a stove? >> A small one.

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>> A small one. Do you have a stove? >> Yes. >> Are you using the cook top? Okay. >> I'll show you more. This is my safety. It is long ago. Four years ago. Wait one second. >> The hot water is working. >> Yes. And this is my heaters. >> All house has >> And this is the tap outside. I said,

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"Okay, that the ground you see the pipe that was done by well guy. The guy who came for the well company, they said you have to take out the water, throw water outside. So the dirty water will go. It has to be at least one two months. So that's why he put that pipe. So I come

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and I own that. So the water will go away. The dirty water will go away. It's a process >> from the well. The the pump is draining just outside just >> into your yard. >> Yes. >> Okay. We'll investigate that. >> Yeah, that's a process. You can ask them. >> Oh yeah, I know about wells, but we can

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look >> because you need to throw the tea water that time. I don't have this um uh tap outside. >> Okay. >> Because it's winter time. >> Yep. >> He installed it in October. >> October. >> Yeah. So, >> so what happens to the sewage? What

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happens when you flush the toilet? >> Yeah, I have >> they have a septic tank. So, it's okay. >> Yes, I have. This is from the beginning. That's old build. This is my heat water heater. >> This is my valve system inside because he put inside >> terrif. So, he put one what do you call pipe

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outside so I can drain the water. There is no system to drain that time. So it was there only. >> All the piping is there. Plumbing I have everything go to uh Okay. Temporary. >> So you're asking the building inspector

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for a final certificate of occupancy. Okay. >> So that the small you see because I'm a female and it's a winter time sometime I go for peace. So I kept that inside for me myself because I don't want to go outside or

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>> no no no go outside. No, >> that's not for party. I go my friend house. I come take bath everything. My friend house. Oh, that day you came. Same day I went to my house. Friend house. Police came. They verify that I live there. They show the agreement. My

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name was there in the agreement. The police. I told you the police came. >> The Southford police. >> No, no, no, no. U >> Oh, the the the um department of family services. >> Yes. They send the police to verify. They see that my car was there all the time. They met the landlord and everything. be verified.

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>> Yes, >> I leave there at night but till the time he go school I make sure I should be nearby because what happened two times I miss him. They tried to call me to pick him but I couldn't reach. That's the answer set in my house and that soap

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everything I that's my I do intentionally I part mark things people know that somebody leaving there I don't want because it's 90% ready somebody go inside lock I cannot take them out and I'm single mother I don't have mail

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and people take my money go I can't do anything >> so what's the you said 90% complete what's the 10% that isn't complete >> no I mean that time >> you're 90% complete at the time of my inspection. >> Yeah,

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>> because I'm paying tax as per the 90%. They they came for the inspection tax tax collector. >> Oh, the tax collector >> they said 90% as per them required. >> Yeah. >> So to so for for us it's for the state

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sanitary code. So it's for housing I have to meet certain standards to say somewhere is fit for human habitation. So for you and your son to reside in a home >> which is a little different than building and and it's a different code so it's a little confusing but >> what we need to see was that hot water

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the electricity the smoke detector do you have those up >> everything electric >> okay so the fire inspector will check on those >> actually that day I was waiting for electrician I went for two weeks for holiday because he has a school holiday I just came that day only so nothing was done I said just wait until I don't go I

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don't allow anybody to go my house because people they took my things An electrician I found he's tighting my things. >> Yeah. >> You can't say anything. >> Do you have locks on your doors and everything now? >> Yeah. Yeah. Still you can't do still you can't outside there's so many things you see lying. >> Mhm. >> Yeah.

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>> I mean you cannot stop anybody. If electrician come if I'm not there he will pack everything whatever is open because I have extra materials because material is my they have only fee. It's the work is like this. I'm I buy material and they do. So that's why

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it's free. I keep eye on my materials. So I was waiting for electrician to finish that day. >> Mhm. >> So when is your plumber coming? >> I didn't know that today he's supposed to come. >> The plumbing inspector, our plumbing inspector for here tried to call your

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plumber who said he was unavailable today for the inspection. >> Oh, his wife is in hospital. >> Okay. So we can't do anything until we get that final plumbing. >> No problem. So, that's why we're here today because due to my inspection on 4:30 and the things that I witnessed and saw, it was concerning to me because

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like we talked about, I know, you know, I understand you wanting to be at your home because of the safety and because of your belongings, but to our code, it was very dangerous for you to be staying at that residence while things are being built and under construction. So, when you're actively doing electrical work

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and plumbing work, it's very dangerous. Um especially to reside in a basement where you only have one means of getting out. Um the TV, the couch, the you know places where you it looked as if you would be sleeping there and the cooking equipment. I mean all of that is a fire

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hazard. >> You packed it all up. Yep. >> Yeah. I hided everything because I want to show because before there's a tan worker used to come. I don't want to show them that I don't live there. I want to show them I'm leaving here. So they have scared from me.

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I mean I don't have money to pay fulltime person to make my house in short. >> But but in the temporary and we certainly understand struggles. We certainly understand being a a a single parent um and and wanting to do the best

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for your child. But the best for your child is to have them in a place where if you're sleeping, if if a fire happens, >> the the smoke detectors are going to go off. Um you have locks so that you're

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protected. If there's a fire in the basement at the doorway, you have you have a place to to leave. So that's where we're coming from. We understand the struggles of building and we certainly are sorry that you've had this string of of uh you know just mishaps

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whether whether from from you or not but what we have to be comfortable with is that um before we say yep you can go back to your house all of those things that Kaen has outlined are addressed. Yeah, definitely once he say okay then

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only we'll start leaving but I don't allow him to go inside he play in the land because he has car cycle my my friend house his apartment so he play in the land sometime like I was in a car or something

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>> sometimes he does go in the base with >> there was evidence of of a dart board on the >> children's toys >> it's okay but there was evidence that he was residing I kept the toys and everything for him because I bring everything up. >> Okay. >> Mostly because it's winter time so I

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kept everything down >> and my car was full all the time >> because I don't keep at She also has two children. >> Okay. >> So she work from home my friend. >> Mhm. So >> where did you sleep last night? >> Since 949 since my friend house

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>> and that's what you plan. That's where you plan to be until everything is set. >> Yes. Yes. So, where have you been going while your son is in school? Have you been? >> I I live in my car. I parked my car in my house outside and I lived in for surveillance. I don't go inside now.

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I leave in my car. The day you come, I sit in the car. >> Okay. >> And where do you go? Where where are you using the restroom or wash? You know, are you drinking water from the >> No, I have water. I I >> Okay. Just in your car.

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>> In my car, I have even water. I always drink. I don't drink tap water. >> Okay. So then what about the restroom? Are you going downstairs into the into the beach? >> Uh that portable you see I kept outside back side of that. >> Okay. >> My house. >> Okay. >> That normally construction house you

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allow portable outside. >> Usually with construction you would want uh >> outside. Yeah. Usually you would want a portaotty. >> So are we talking something like a portaotty? >> Yes. Portable. >> We would want Yeah. The building code would say uh porta potty for construction workers, not for it would I

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don't believe it's for homeowners, but that's a that's a building inspector question. That's beyond my scope. >> But there is that there capability. >> Yes, but I do not believe the commode that is in that photo from my inspector qualifies. >> I don't believe that is allowed. But I

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would have to ask the building inspector. >> Yeah, that I do not know. >> But now toilet is working. But I don't use that toilet because it's columning is not yet pass. >> Okay. You have not used the plumbing until the Yep. You haven't used that until you get the plumbing. Yeah, that

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that that's a good >> Don't use anything until the plumbing inspector looks at them. >> Okay. I think we've if you got any more questions Lyn but >> let's talk. Um,

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it's it's my feeling that there's no occupancy until you get until we get the plumber to sign off. >> Uh, and or you get your which I think couples with getting your final um

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inspection because it sounds like you you you're at least from the pictures you're showing and what you're telling us, you're more ready than what you were when Kaine was here. And you understand that would mean Kaen and the building inspector would go back out um to to

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just double check. And at that time they may find something else that they might not have seen that that might complicate and you might have to get it fixed before the two of you can go there. >> No, I agree. >> Yeah.

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>> So >> So in the meantime, having to reside at your friend's house is important. >> Yeah. I'm leaving there only because he has to go school till 12th of June >> of June. >> Otherwise my cousin I have a friends in New Jersey for I can leave there but I

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don't want to go because now it's she is just 11 miles. She's the nearest. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Everybody is very far and the hotel is far. Everyone is far. >> What do you project or or you know your plumber wasn't available today. How often is he available? Is that going to

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be past June 14th? I'll check him. I didn't know actually. I'm not aware about this. >> Yeah. So, the So, our part-time plumbing inspector, he he will call the plumber on file and say, "I'm available today at 2:00 or tomorrow at what time?" So, when

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I called, his name is Stan. When I called Stan today, he said, "I tried to get out there last week. It was a no-go. I tried to get out there today. I was in Southwick today and it was a no." So, we got to get on the same page with your plumber. when he called me. So, I called him because his number he some problem.

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>> He talked to the plumber. He said he spoke directly to your plumber. Yeah. Yeah. They It just didn't work out timewise. >> So, hopefully tomorrow or Wednesday. >> It sounds like you might need to talk to your plumber >> to tell him that everything is pretty much hinging on that. >> Yeah. So then once that's done, fire

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building and myself are we can make ourselves very available so we can get out there pretty quickly um and just go through it and make sure everything's up to the building code, the state sanitary housing code, and then the fire code. >> So all very different, but they come together to make sure that you and your

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son are safe. >> Okay. So then I'll make a motion that we are forbidding that you um that you stay in the house. You your sons stay in the house until all of these things until you pass those codes. Do you want to do

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an order of condemnation? >> We need to Yes, we need to read that. Um >> but when sorry one question like uh when they come for the inspection because I'm applying for finance now >> if anything short little things but my

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first house is ready completely so I can get temporary meanwhile or no >> the whole dwelling has to be up to code the whole dwelling has to be ready because that's the back room is where you and your son are sleeping correct that's your bedrooms and the bathrooms there as well so you need both both

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sections need to be ready or else you can't you It's then it would then say there's issues like you just said in the back then it's deemed unfit for human habitation. You can't you because it's in the style of the home. >> Got it. Yeah, I got it. So then for final actually, not temporary. Let's apply for

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>> you want final. Okay. >> So I'm going to read this. I'm going to back up and read while we all got together. Um, notice was given for hearing pursuant to Massachusetts General Law Chapter 111, section 127A,

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that the Southwood Board of Health will hold a hybrid public meeting on May 18th. Hybrid, we we have the capability for people to to to join us by teams at 6:00 p.m. in the land use hearing on the following hearing room on the following

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topic. a condemnation hearing regarding 85 Granville Road, Southwick, Massachusetts, to consider issuing a finding that the residents or a specifically identified portion thereof is unfit for human habitation. Any

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questions about that? I think we've been pretty upfront and you have >> Do you have any questions to Kaen as to any Now is the time to say what about X, Y, or Z? What >> did I mean? I I didn't know anyone because I'm different country. I have different rules

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>> and that's totally understand totally understand. >> I can understand >> and from here what will happen that I think is helpful for understanding is an order of condemnation will be placed on the home where a a placard we call it is posted on the house that it's secure and

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order to vacate. So nobody in the home nobody can be in the home except for licensed individuals who are working on your home. So that's kind of common. So just your plumber, your inspector and your contractor and you in conjunction with them can be present in your home because you are the homeowner. That's your right

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>> on the land. >> You can be on your land just not in the home because the home is deemed right now as dangerous. So you can't go in >> but then once we get everything set and ready with fire building and myself it's very easy to lift a condemnation order. So we can take the condemnation order

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off at once we issue that CO and it's fit for human habitation and you and your son can reside back in it. No problem. >> And all this, you understand, is for your safety, the safety of your son. >> That's all I care about is your safety. >> At that time, my mind is only for my house.

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>> Yeah. >> I get that. >> I didn't consider myself. >> I mean, that's our job is we want to make sure you and your son are safe and that there's no risk of fire. That was the biggest thing for me was the risk of fire >> because this is a I think first house in the town. Five years took to build.

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Well, well, congratulations on that and and hopefully this will help you give you a checklist of what of what needs to be done. So, we are I I am making a motion that we that we issue the condemnation order subject to to all of

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the findings from plumbing, electrical, building inspector, etc. Do I hear a second? I will second that motion. Um, all in favor? Terry Putnham? I Trisha Leiac I. >> Okay. and I'll go out for that that form that I gave you with your inspection. There's a section where it's just a

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reinspection. So, I'll just go through that, make sure everything's been addressed and then you're good from the health side. Can't speak for Joe, but the building inspector, but for me then after that >> um >> after plumbing. >> After plumbing,

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>> Joe and I have we can make we can make something work. So, if you get the plumbing done tomorrow or Wednesday, I can get out there. We can get out there Thursday or Friday. Maybe not Friday. Our building or fire inspector does not work. So >> Thursday hopefully >> I'm going. >> Okay. Stan Stan said he would be

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available or try to make himself available. He knew about what was happening here. So >> we knew how important this was to you and and we we certainly feel that importance as well. >> Yeah. >> We'll work with you. We're not just trying to we're not leaving you. So

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we'll work together on this. It's just very difficult without man. I know >> even constructing house is very difficult. I know nobody listen me. >> You're doing it though. You don't need a man. No, >> that's right. You got you got you got this stuff all in order. You're almost getting it in order. So you're doing

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>> and and Kaen is here to answer any questions that you might have. So So call the board of health if you come up with anything >> between now and then because we want you to be successful. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> All right. Thank you. There's no more. Do I hear a motion to

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adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. And I second that. Excellent. Terry Putnham in favor. Trish. >> Okay. Green.