hello folks today is February 6th we are in the land youth building in regards to capital expenditure committee um up first will be public comment does anyone have anything they'd like to say in the audience I didn't see anything anyone on Zoom I didn't see anything okay so Joe is present Doug mman is present Mr steinhardt is present Parker is present on zoom and a lead D Maria
and Russ Fox so we have a full board tonight ah okay so minutes aren't done from last year we'll have them for the next meeting and reorganization of the board would anyone like to become chairman I'll make a motion to nominate Joe de is J second all those in favor Joe d i Doug muglin yes Carl yes Nicole Parker ey on Zoom Russ Fox
yes Alita sorry I'm having serious technical issues I can hear only every other word so I'm not sure what I'm saying yes to right now chair we nominated you chairman of the um the board no Joe DD chairman it was a unanimous but one vote there you go okay all right Vice chair was who
last year right here Vice chair was no doesn't say was you Carl no I think it I think it should be was last Alita were you the vice chair last you of the finance committee yeah okay oh this was this is the agenda from I don't remember so I nominate Doug mgin I'll second the nominate wonderful all those in favor Joe DDI yes car Stein
yes Nicole Parker yes Zoom Rose Fox yes Mar yes all right and before we start next week Thursday's very tight for a lot of folks here is how does Wednesday look for everybody we did it at six I can do it at six on Wednesday okay by seven oh is yeah I think we only have one person to see perfect yeah what date is that is that yeah the 12 I can't
make it wait I'm going to okay I won't even be in the office that day no that's fine that's Lincoln's birthday how about can we do Tuesday well if if you're saying we only have one who's the other one that I think it would be DPW oh we got two DPW parking wreck
and there's also a tentative date of the 27th right yeah you could do them on the 27th then that's our third date right that's when we do that was the third date we can do it all in one night if you want work okay so let's we'll cancel next week then everybody and the 27th is still on okay all right right up first fire department how you doing fine how's everyone T good you're getting there
this would be my first capital committee meeting so bear with me while I kind of get some traction um so a couple of things we've obviously have approached before regarding the renovations at the fire department and we're in the process right now after some money was appropriated last year for this year to hire the architect to do the preliminary work so he's in the process of um working the design and getting that
ready for bid um and the proc part of that process was to resubmit some of the new changes to the estimator uh who had given us the proposal last year which was a number we were basing the request on of 300,000 so we're waiting to hear back from him one of the things that has changed significantly is that um when Russ uh Anderson had brought in Apex HVAC to evaluate the system in the building and found there were some significant um upgrades that needed to
be made so uh combination of the work that's happening there and then the work that was going to be the HVAC in the construction project can actually be handled um with the upgrades to the system now that needed to be made anyway so Min splits are needed no well they well that's the thing that those mini splits will help the building alog together um but that means that that portion of it will come off of the construction Pro so we're probably looking at a safe
estimate still of 250,000 to 300,000 for that project okay I'll know a finer number once we get the proposal package and we get the proposal package out so my guess is by the time I'm hoping working with the architect that by the time we come to town meeting we'll have a pretty solid number of what it would cost for this project to be completed okay but going off of the professional estimate which is this is currently 2 years old at 3 00,000 but you take off
some of the HVAC work that's going to be done just to make the improvements it's still probably if you give figure about 10% increase annually for construction costs is what we were told we're probably pretty pretty close to that right so I think that is you know for for fiscal 26 um is what the fire department is looking at as far as um the biggest item Chief could you just explain a little bit more of the the work that's done with this year's first spay money certainly so we've been
working with the architect to do the design the design includes um the drawings they'll be used for construction the electrical engineer is part of that so all of that's being done and we've been working with Apex to handle the HVAC portion of it the only other one that hasn't really been involved in the project would be the sprinklers fire sprinkler systems um but according to the architect they're very minimal changes and shouldn't impact the the cost of the project by much based on
what we knew already going in this estimate is pretty accurate okay and that includes you know the whole uh proposal package so he'll put that together so they'll do the bid package for you bid out do they do the posting through com they will um once we get all of that together and they'll they'll go ahead and and and assist with that so it's going to be a partnership with with the town but get that project we' fortunate some firms we've dealt with four we used this bid it's called bid documents.com used that as a Clearing House
and the architect that we used you know for some of these buildings partnered with them it's a whole other little team small money they receive everything they tabulate it they have it all together and that and there's a good audit Trail for particular one one of the reasons we went with this architect it was recommended by Art Lawler um was that he's very good at Municipal smaller projects so it was a good fit for us and it's worked out quite well he's great to work with um and has been really good back and forth with thing so the Project's moving forward um it's taking
some time for the estimate only because there are a couple of variables on the electrical side but I think we've w't able to seal it up this week so so is the H I'm sorry is the HVAC not in here at all right now so no in in the 300,000 it is okay and that included in those six rooms one of the biggest problems without knowing technically really what's going on is some of the control devices and of the return for the existing system was
undersized and the control devices need to be replaced with that work comes better controls over what's happening in that area as well as the rest of the building so building off of that we're able to save a little bit of money on the construction cost gotcha so that you're we have on here 250 but that number is really closer to 300 I put the 250 in there anticipating that once we get the construction Pro bids spe bids back it's
going to be around there I I really am confident that that Ro is going to including the HVAC yep because that's project that's actually funded already so that work will be happening right the four Mini Splits or something right yeah well there again there's the duck work the controls all that stuff you have another Capital appropriation sitting there that can be carried forward because if it's classified as capital can be carried forward to succeeding years not roll yes and close out to free cash okay yep but the intentions are to do some of that
this year yeah right as we move forward abely those improvements were done with the anticipation of this space being renovated May and you get a notice to proceed to do a contract you might be able to get some work done in June okay we'll see we just it's still far away you know who's gonna clerk this um we've I've talked with Bob Sullivan okay and so was interested yeah still
grandville's parttime building yep yep yep he uh he was recovering from some surgery when I talked to him but now that the Project's happening almost you know six months after I talked toed okay so that's that's what's kind of ahead of us um there are a couple of other things that leg just lik to make you aware of that are coming down the pike um changes in a few if it's a if it's appropriate for fiveyear projections okay well I'll make
it very quick um we were anticipating a cardiac monitor this year we've moved out out to 27 and that will help us um with the offset of when we purchase those okay um we're good on the ambulances our new ambulance is expected within two months up and ready to go um you know I'm very excited it's happening it is definitely happening um but the bigger one would be um the replacement
for engine one um engine one was purchased in 2006 for just under $300,000 which at the time was the comparable price for a decent fire truck um but it's really starting to show its age it is engine one has absorbed about 60% just shy of 60% of our maintenance budget this year for work that needed to be done on the truck um it's very solid right now we've done some work that could have waited type of stuff but it was important to get it taken care of at extreme top to bottom Bumper to Bumper
uh PM um with some some pretty extensive work and repairs done after that but we anticipated that coming this year so it was all good um but I'd like to move the replacement schedule up to TW to to fiscal it would be 28 so fiscal 28 we were initially looking at 30 but I don't think we're going to make it in the I think it was 2017 there was an apparatus study yes there was and I was just looking at it
this weekend and for the love of me I can't tell you but one of the pieces of equipment was going to be in this time frame is this the same one engine so it's still following along with that schedule it's definitely the next piece to be replaced it certainly is yeah yeah with all the to look at that too you you'd look at your debt replacing debt schedule to see like we would do with ambulances you'd always make sure that you know the debt that's going to roll off for having bought an ambulance you reprogram it for another ambulance if you got a you know fire truck rolling
off yeah because the last time you did that that through purose we reduced the number of rolling start and you did combination units so you got to look and see where that looks like too where certain pieces of debt that are rolling off that you can then renew it for the same like purpose and we got off the sequence of the five fiveyear Replacements on the ambulances so it's 10 years of service but every five years we would be because of the accident you got yeah so what the plan is and I don't want to Takeo much time at this meeting is to
actually take the newest ambulance and still make it A2 so it doesn't even start to see its heavy use for a year to to two years and so that'll give us a good 12 years out of that to kind of back get us back on schedule the accident really messed up the cycle a lot of things it really did yeah yeah so and you're still gonna plan to keep it's probably Dov tailes in because it's yeah the yes absolutely absolutely yep yeah we we need it I mean we're we defin the call there but just you know this week
had to borrow CH that's press relas and that's a service agreement part that we're still waiting on so if there's anything more than that it could could have been a little longer but we we should be good within the week on that one how long is the rig out of service from the one that the chick un back is well we were told two weeks to get the part it's been two weeks we're still waiting but I had figured I'm sorry the airbags no the airbags are all set this is the actual Hydraulics for the stretcher system very special equipment so it comes directly
from Striker but again it's part of the service part of the service plan so which why they don't have the stuff in stock I don't know you've had a lot of fun right oh yeah okay they on us well that's great that's what I have thank you all right thank you what do you do you know what that rough you mentioned what that engine one cost when it was new back in 2006 what we that was $300,000 I'm going to say to get a comparable fire apparatus you're probably about $850 right now about 750 gets you a a decent
model and it's a solid truck don't get me wrong the the manufacturer that I've been looking at are very good but we're not going to be able to afford the Pierce or you know that they're just they're a million dollars right now just for an engine I remember nothing F remember when the L truck I was going to say the last hour came in was eight was almost exactly that right power right in that ballpark and if I remember that this was just pre-o it was
8% per year yeah so when you get into these numbers 8% a ton of D 8% increase per year yeah so if you're starting at 500,000 8% is a lot of money one of the things to consider on that is if you're looking at a replacement in 28 is to actually look at possibly appropriating money sooner than that as a placeholder for production so I'm waiting to see what happens in the next six months or so with production um had
a very good discussion with a colleague who does sell Pierce and he said some adjustments are happening so some of the pricing should level off and the production should come a little quicker they're having better resources for raw materials and labor is improved so things are starting to pick up a little bit so I'm hoping that you know by the summer by the mid end of the summer we'll have a better idea of where that looks so next year there might just be a an appropriation for a placeholder so that you can actually order a truck right because exactly you wait until money down payment and then you get the
truck you know form of an a baring authorization yeah want to do would have to be for that kind of money yeah you get the authorization because you know you won't be paying on a no for years right right right but you have to have an authorization yeah all right thank you thank you Chief case you need any other discussion stuff but you all said I think we're fine okay good night good night you're more than welcome stay yeah but I think
he was like I want to go home yeah I get it hi hey Dan sir how are you today good how are you wonderful where would you like to start so we'll start I don't have too many Big Ticket items but mostly for here Town Hall Town Hall yep all right the major one in my opinion is uh the main electrical panel the master onoff switch Yeah is broken and we need to get that
fixed and where is that located down in the Y down south yeah behind is it on this sheet at all just say to be determined right but it's below 25,000 so it's not the jur of the committee no to replace that switch is going to be like 800 80 yeah it's got to go out to bid okay they thought it was Soul sourcer it's not yeah we should just move the TB green just they say you have to use us but that's not really accurate
and I'm not even sure if we should put under that elevator company Tyson not Tyson it's uh main switch the main switch to shut the power off to the building it's been broken for years I don't know how urgent it is but it doesn't shut off right not bring it's on it's working it's on we can't shut it off it's lit clean snapped off fire department's got to shut off pretty much but it could trip if needed to trip correct okay so think let's find out but
we can shut all the other individual panels off and you know we'll do it that way but we don't have we don't have a main shut off or so are you are you working on getting an updated estimate we did get one um from Greybar and um for the product right Schneider yeah yeah it came in around 70 but that was during business hours which they would have to shut everything down for 8 to 10 10 hours so is this something we would
do on a weekend cost more money to do it on a weekend it it does but it it keeps you you know keep you from closing your building down and not transacting business you got to find a holiday that's not a holiday so that's what I said um but also um you know I thought we have a lot of holidays right and if they have to do two but in in the quote It also says we may have to do a second dat it's got to be shut down for8 to 10 hours with the possibility of going into a second EG
um I would just I would just think the weekend but I'm not exactly sure yeah I mean i' think about either Saturday figure out where they can go from there yeah you just scheduled for a Saturday and a Monday holiday so they're they have an electrician but that might even be Insurance you know I I mean well how many times are we hit by lightning well if it broke right it's a broken broken part so we could potentially go with
insurance now you know when you start filing claims and filing claims filing claims like you know when does your insurance drop you or go up and not there's I think a lot of variables yeah with this particular job yeah yeah okay thank you and then then theay yeah the tractor storage um garage storage that kind of thing um we're looking to uh let me see so we're looking to get a
prefab garage on the old fire Association slab y oh right over there okay y yeah so we're looking to get the PO new pad nope it's all there still right the pad yeah the pad is still there it's still good yeah we're looking to get certain V like we call the Concrete specialist who basically like fills the voids underneath and raises it up y gets a level and all that so it's it's ready for a building and that's in there with that 75 that's no we're still waiting on a quote for that um but that was supposedly he said it was going to be under 10 are you going to be um
electrifying it running an electric service to it no would like to yeah you running gas to it um as of right now gas and this quote is just for the building yeah and we'll go from there yeah yeah this is this is just for yeah getting a preab two or three Bay garage is anything sensitive to temperature and SEMA that you want to use to day for now just generators Russ will this require a a request for
determination with the time I'm sure it would um I I did talk to um of course I mean you went through the process to for that to take the other building down now you you're putting another one in and we actually had a a reserve card for S about if we ripped the pad out and had to reclaim the dirt yeah um but we didn't have to because the pad was in such good shape a little help we could reuse it y I would assume because it's existing footprint we'd be okay there's
no drainage it shouldn't take much yeah so maybe just an RDA yeah we we have is that an adequate location for that facility or is just convenient because the pad's already there as far as as far as it's the sighting of it at that same location is what you're yeah I mean being on the camp the thought process was for for Dan standpoint being on campus with the tractor and Main stuff and they need to go cut long boards or
do whatever you got a spot to do it as far as the sea having a up one Bay to put that stuff in it's on campus it's under camera it's near police or fire kind of makes sense yeah you've never had any we've never had any water issues over in terms of water coming now that you said it but yes well adjacent to the Wetland gu why only unlike unlike New Orleans if you know you're going to be getting something in that order of magnitude you can move out of the building what you
need to move out of you put it somewhere else fin only question would be if um I don't know how that works with a new building the variance being right on the line it's closer to 10 10 but depending on the size of the garage the building may be less than 10 F yeah but if if it's the building the structure might that still might be pre-existing in grandfather Yeah I don't we so your Council can answer that question in a few minutes yeah you're talking about whether or not a variance would be Deed by from the
board of appeals yeah right it's on the same footprint chasing yeah okay then do you have a building boot or anything or um rough quote was 50 to 75,000 I'm still waiting on to hear back from a couple other since we're not going to meet till the 27th you think we can have that stuff ahead of that meeting maybe a couple you know we got three weeks say we're going to meet it yes part of that was with the prefab
folks we didn't know how much of the pad was useful until it was gone right right right it's only been a couple weeks so he has reached out to those trying to get a better picture okay what's going to go in the in there no vehicles right we generator trailer tractor other than the tractor tractor tractor right now on his building yeah Brett wants his garage back then police will need to borrow Bay for what I was kind of asking I was kind of
just thinking out loud was would it make is there any sense in that and I know that the new boat is a very tight fit in the new in the existing building would it make sense for everybody to play nice in the sandbox and swappy swap put a building down at the end probably the same money but it's long enough to fit the boat and then have DPW take over the existing building that they just put a new garage door on or whatever down at the old do no the old salt shed the old salt shed
extended I mean I'm not a post just just for discussion right I mean we can hash that out later it's this I don't think it changes the money up a lot but it it might be better suited for everyone's purpose because the boat's still a tight fit in the salt sh real tight so but if you had a slightly longer I don't know what the pad is or whatever but then you could put the boat there your stuff goes there you're still talking the same money but you end up with a better product for everybody involved um what I meant by that was which side of that
long Garage on where the the old ACL facility was or closer to where the Surplus cars get parked going toward the uh the drive line no the where the salt shed is down in the back right right yeah doors face where they face building extend towards the fire station I think that's so it's on the right side I'm looking at all the B it's on the right side where all the surplus vehicles whatever makes sense I wasn't sure I don't know or even just
put if you want to put that longer building down where the old Association was going to be but it becomes where they put the boat and he moves into there and they move over there I don't know or a bay of it I don't know just have to it just was thinking out loud with all of these things and I know that the boat was a tight fit yeah and you know we can figure that out okay and then lock upgrade yep um looking to get initially just 12 doors which includes
all the outer doors and the clerks and Treasures Office and if we were do that we're looking at about 60k to change the locks yeah to to key fobs those will be fobs everything else will be re keed and then those will be key fobs all the outer doors and then the clerk and treasure would this be like the way the police have it so you can monitor people's going into what offices or what the way the police we''ve got fobs on some of the main
entry doors yeah those we just actually got a quote put any new one in be 3500 bucks on the assisting weal know sure are it's about 4,000 yeah I've had a couple conversations with a couple different people about this over the last year or so as far as with all of the different buildings and all the different things there are other there's options around having kind of a campus wide or townwide system that you can integrate
and manage from one pane of glass PD FD town hall and you can you don't have to do it all at once like this is probably a great approach and then when your stuff becomes obsolete you bring it onto this new system FD or or what have you I did put it on our fiveyear plan it is it is and there's multiple systems but I mean just I had some experience in the space so I i' offer to give some advice and counsel if anyone needs it but yeah and what what does the 11,000 get us
that's re keing just just hard keys just regular keys that's just yeah the whole building a locki just with a regular locki didn't we just do this then you go around change Keys there's been a few upgrades couple problem is now Masters are all Beau I mean we we can't like your offices are separate and then we can't tear them anymore just because they worn out and there's so many systems and changes that happen
because it's been Reed so many times they're kind of going back to the original yeah so if Jimmy's still alive from 1968 might Master 40 years ago might be able to get in yeah what you're talking from what 97 97 by the time you get it done it'll be 28 29 30 years and just being one that went through all the keys when I first started there so many extras SP yeah the key is a mess still a mess it is it is
even after I tried my best to organize it and label it you did this is going to be like um this would be like a carpet replacement program right you're going to do it over like seven years to get get it all done but then you know when you get into you know finish Town Hall fire police you can even key it into no pun intended like the Wall-E Park and that kind of stuff and you name it DPW they
have one too it's separate yeah okay and no no quotes just rough numbers um yeah those are just rough numbers we did sit down with rli and they gave us like ballpark prices for that so the 11k came from that the 4,000 per door was for the fobs I think it was like 3,500 to 4,000 for the fobs that's where those 60,000 comes from for the 12 doors and R is he looking at the same vendor you got your quotes from where is
the the locks we talking about don't think so would you go rackliff out of we have in our building through IBS still because you're gonna need mul M any that price did include the pr right and the larger server future buildups right yeah the wiring the whole infrastructure of it yeah yeah it has
its own server right you have to do that on your initial installation in a certain area of the building and then you build onto that infrastructure that you're put in place because I know IBS that's a state B but I don't know if acts not sure that's it for Town Hall really um the only other thing is the library um they're looking to do like an out set
on Library maintenance concrete pad music yes 40,000 yes are they looking to do for 40,000 or the I don't know like if you're looking at the library to the right they're trying to put a slab for like a music entertainment type area just put a concrete slab down there with I'm guessing you know picnic cables and right I don't know did she say what else she's trying to put on there besides just so through
CPC before I but they through CPC they got a music outoor music thing you want to call that yeah yeah yeah and when I came in um previously it was discussed about putting mulch or stone down there but it was an ADA Compliant right um so now she went out and looked at I think she talked to scottt um from China in regards to putting down either brick
or pad or something and Scott gave her some pointers so she's in a point of I don't really know what to do and how to get prices so we're kind of coming in light and kind of help her with with the project she's going to go back to CPC for money I just GNA say that it would have been a nice package with that CPC but she did get some I thought she got some both with being 2025 report pad or something yeah I forget like 25 25 to 30 think the issue with CPC is that's going to take it out of the jurisdiction out of this
committee it doesn't need to go through cap yeah we've had we've had other stuff come in front of us that we decided that it would be best approached as a CPC project so it's better to us to even if we vote for it but then they decide to take it off the budget right if if we don't vote on it it can't really go in the budget so you're better to deliberate on it now and then decide later during the budget process that we all agree this could be a CPC
application it comes a l right yeah yeah understood because it'll be a separate warrant article you know CC gets all warrant articles and there's no quotes on that original allocation of funds it's admin account and then whatever projects the committee approves correct including anything else for this building wouldn't be the first time that we've done even the some of the projects that have just gone through CPC were in the budget discussions years Y and we decided take them out of the budget
we'll ask CPC if they want to do it oh yeah they're receptive to it it's great absolutely absolutely y Russ Elita any questions I keep forgetting to ask you no I'm all set Joe thank you I'm sure I'll chime in if I have any thanks yes you will okay just want to thank Mr mogin for being the key man I see what you did there wonderful than good thanks sir you
don't I guess that's it for these are we've been having the police stuff came and passed due time so I don't know if should we talk about it here I guess we should he did I didn't recognize he almost ran me over in the lot did he that might not have been that might not have been our most he's not listed in the Life Insurance can change yeah all right Police Department sir how are you this evening I'm excellent how are you I'm great so guys there's some they're looking to start a dodgeball
team apparently going to need new lockers this would be under buildings and grounds or you do this yourself well you know what and I was just thinking about that as I was sitting there this Dan back before he runs away this is actually you're just moving under police capital budget yeah I mean it's probably more appropriate that it's a building maintenance thing as there's been a few things on our budget over the years that probably should be building maintenance why they aren't I don't know but certainly we can change that going they get did they get done yeah for the most part okay yes for the most part yeah it still has to be put under their Capital
because buildings and grounds is a thing is generally Town Hall budgets so you you still have to put the capital under the building in which right but let them help you with oh absolutely we would want to be partnering with the facilities manager and mle 100% okay so there's two different verions if you guys want to see also gave us a little sheet little Sheet's nice because it's it's all in one wish I had it all week oh well here we are I
got drafted 15 minutes ago I appreciate that thank you all right so we use the cheat sheet folks worried about two cruisers for 109 yeah they changed much in them the 10 work still work so that number should still work um you know as you know our truck uh died blew up whatever you want to say um we got a couple of quotes we to get a quote on a 150 originally when all this
happened the 150 was actually significantly more than the F250 is so the F250 is only uh you know couple thousand dollars more than the police interceptor is yeah the you know the truck's going to be a new build so it's obviously going to need new lights and everything like that whereas the Interceptor we're going to be able to swap the equipment out of whatever crws we're going to retire at that point in time that's still holds up now the current current Interceptor stuff moves
over to this new yeah they Haven they haven't changed the body style yet right not to say they won't thing if you got a hybrid as one of them so I noticed I did I did list the hybrid one there was some talk whether or not we're going to have to move to a hybrid this year I think we determine we do not have to they Exempted us again for at least another year that's what I was going to ask is that the fox memor green thing that we're talking about that for the town to go I mean if the if the
town wanted to try one of these things you're looking at roughly $3,000 you can see that there that would still fit within the money we're asking for it' be a lot tighter but it's uh and the same configuration with moving the cages the B and all the equipment the what b b are you okay no I just missed doing that it's been a couple of years so I figured I'd had to get one in cheap h you've never walked by one without going in hey s well to bring that up all right
so that's the name lockers and floor so the lockers and floor no bunk beds for 180 just lockers and floor just lockers and Floors unfortunately we're not getting what the fire department wants I know but you guys can't share the new bunk room like you guys couldn't oh make that you can't even get in the building oh I can get it the other guys wait a minute so obviously this is renovation project current lockers the whole building's about 25 years old now um you
know the Lockers in there actually they're a generic storage locker they were supposed to be a thicker mill than the ones we actually got the solution at the time was we'll put the heavier doors on the Lesser Mill lockers well they all started to sort of do this so the roofs are caving in on the floors have caved in um you know these are more specific loers 25 years ago that was my next question you wa just started or uh yeah
yeah literally yeah I started in 2000 full-time and then I had started prior to that as a reserve 96 so yeah it's been so the lockers aren't wearing as good as you okay well I don't know depends so I mean the other thing is we're increasing personnel as we go along here I don't know how that's going to go over the next few years but we are eventually going to need new Locker more lockers I should say uh the thought here was we go with a little bit thinner Locker it' be tall would have roughly about the same amount of space inside
just a different configuration so does that mean you'll have to get thinner taller officers or they all start out that way they all kidding aside do you have I just got her now do you have how many lockers do you have now so right now what did I put in here it was 28 total lockers at male and female combined right um this would bring us up to 38 total lockers that's that's an increase of 10 and they're equally split right now between the two lock rooms so how do you have it split now so right now uh current lockers 23 male that
would go up to 30 uh five female that number will go up to eight then good I know I just for everyone at home right and you didn't break it down like doing the men's room this year women's room next year I mean that that was an option you know if this you know $180,000 number here that's an option where we could do the men's locker room this year the female locker room the following one year there's different
um there's different things we could do to break it down over you know a couple a year period of time the only thing you got to worry about there is if you do it that way your cost is going to go up it's cheaper to do it all at once than do it peace meal so right how how this number in terms of getting an approval in May doing the procurement getting it done is the number going to be good from a cost did you build in an escalator I did not I did not because that's the
only thing I'm concerned about the timing of we're talking about it yeah we're talking about the budget process it's going to be voted on in April it's going to go to the floor in May and then there's the whole process of of getting it you know what happens economically what happens after when you get it out the door and so forth I mean you I know worst case scenario if if you ended up being short you might have to have a something called an alternate deduct
that would allow you to just award a bid go with what you have and then go and get a supplemental for whatever that share is unless you decide to build in the escalator through the budget gotcha there is some fat in here per se um the flooring there's a little bit of play there you'll see it in there when you go in the actual estimates but I had them do an estimate on the men's room the woman's room and then the two bath boms so if we decided not to do the bathrooms
the floors are in halfway decent shape that money would come off you know I and do that in the succeeding year you wouldn't have to do them at all part of the program Lally could be left off I looked at him today when when uh the vendor came out and looked he looked at everything he was he said you know we can go over the top as it will give me a number on it um I mean looking at them today they're really in pretty decent shape right so I think we could we could go we could go without it so right which
they wered Carpeting and we did carpeting we did um we've got money for carpeting this year still which we have that I believe so prior to that we had done some of the epoxy floors in the patrol room the hallway the front hallway right lock so that 9900 whatever I saw is probably the last fit it should be the last of the carpeting are pretty pretty close to it right it doesn't
include the bathrooms no that would be the administrative offices and the patrol and Sergeant's offices so Nicole's question is um whether or not your estimate includes the prevailing wage is it reflecting in or does that have to be built in too that may be have to be built and I can check uh double check tomorrow they're Massachusetts companies and they're doing police so you'd think that they would know that but it's it's not specific in you always want that company
to say this price includes reflects going to be double that when you if it doesn't include prevailing right right but you always want to make sure that I would always send stuff back saying before I do a purchase order I want to see that state contract number or this or that and then you want to see that this reflects prevailing wages are are being charged Yeah because sometimes that's why you end up doing sometimes in our business you end up doing fewer capital projects because you got to you got to
accommodate through all those other things I know it is what it is I know the items themselves are on state bit that I do know but as far as the prevailing wage I do not know how long would it take to do a project like that the lack of rooms um the floor alone would probably be just based on what I saw with the last ones you probably talk in three days anyways just for the floors and that'll probably spread out a little bit further because now you're dealing with two different rooms um well probably a couple weeks yeah I would say so and the lockers they just
come in the locker themselves I believe are they're pre-built and they come in they actually hook together you could just stage them in your other Bays yeah and then that way they could do all the work and then just bring them in right at the last minute yeah and that price does include the installation lock you know you know you're running a installation not sure about foring wage but insulations there oh yeah it Tri tough to it trips it it's tough to do this work in a 24/7 365 environment you can't we're not going somebody was
saying that where we going to put everything I worked here when we were working out of a trailer yeah I get it you remember that oh yeah I remember but we do something this is a company that does this for police and fire station yeah they're used to doing yeah they got they got that down they know what they have to charge they know how they have to submit their their documents to be awarded right their bid numbers and they know how they have to um do their staging of work yeah would you have to um supervise somebody have to be in there with them yeah yeah right yeah we
just can't let them loose in the building to the sieges requirements yeah oh yeah so either one of us or somebody from Building Maintenance would probably I shouldn't say probably would have to be no unescorted people yeah well that would be okay you wouldn't have to call in a detail to do that no no it' be no different from when the HVAC people come in and some from someone has to the scor so long as they've been C just certified and everything with the testing and fingerprints and all that good stuff and they're
good okay right anything else I uh I don't think so unless you want to talk about anything in the future but no I didn't think so do you have anything on your fiveyear plan there's a couple things on the fiveyear plan so what were you thinking about see what he did the concrete no I'm worried about the battery on the laptop what do I think about time you guys might have thought of a uh you know like a cover covering it and
maybe having solar panels on it or something where's that the old DW you're talking right the one right behind us yeah um I know we had talked about possibly doing like an awning I think that's on the fiveyear plan that's what I'm saying with with maybe with potentially having with potentially having panels on it so I mean not a bad idea to explore yeah uh the other side just find what I did with the the actual budget here you know not for nothing but Bobby's already one of your
appointed people somewhere on the R I think you could you can have him be like a cler on that kind of stuff and yeah he's used to doing the pring stuff and he's used to managing justay Reserve I know the other the big one that I
noticed today was the floors in our Bays so they're just untreated concrete right now so when I had the uh contractor out today to look at the locker room I had him go out there as well and do an estimate on that you know he did note that the floor in there starting to crack up which means theault and stuff's going to be getting in there probably blowing out the floor sooner later yeah so I did get some prices on that I mean that's probably in the
$40,000 range to do all those bays at some point expensive yeah it is I mean the thing is once you do it it's it's usually good forget we and those were fairly new Port floors all that area was all ripped up when we were doing the underground pollution mitigation no I know I just know from what 60% of that structure's fls were removed right but from outside experience of recent yeah
coating of concrete yeah is just an outrageously expensive number what you would think it would cost the alternate is going to be rip the floor off even you know epoxy or ceiling or it's just expensive I don't know why but it's just expensive so that's probably a sooner than later thing that'll probably be some i' look for next year so you know yeah any questions on Zo Mr Fox Alita no sir okay I'm good thanks
great all right well appreciate your time that's it I can go like the fire chief now you can what I can go like the fire chief yeah he was looking to get out yeah yeah I'm sorry I'm slow today thank you thank you very much any questions out of the board in general next mean is 27 next mean is a 27 7 we're good with that7 yeah are we okay at six that work still that's good
yeah you're good you're good you're good for six yeah you said yeah okay right so I guess I need a motion to adjourn I'll second elitist motion all right all those in favor Joe DDI Doug Mogan yes Carl steinard yes Parker yes Russ Fox yes O G Maria yes thank you folks have a great night appreciate your time bye now good night everybody good night