Good evening everyone. Welcome to the community preservation committee in Salt Lake. Our meeting tonight is in hybrid uh 7 o'clock January 21st 2026. Um with us tonight we have Clark, Chris
Pratt, >> Brian Walker, Russ Fox, >> and I believe we have Rick Herman online. >> Rick is online but um he's having an issue with his mic. >> Okay. Um, I don't know. >> Oh, some technical difficulties. We'll
try to solve those after. >> Show them like >> we need we need to hear his voice. >> Yeah, >> we can't otherwise it's like a a hidden ballad or something like that.
>> Okay. Um, maybe he can maybe I'll call him. >> I think we did that once with John, didn't we? >> We did. >> That must hear me. >> I can I can hear you. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Do you want to just try to stay on the phone? Yep. >> Okay, we can do that. >> That'll work. >> Hi guys, I'm here. >> Hi. >> Why can't I see everybody? >> That's what Dennis was asking.
>> Under the more button. >> Um, what? More button. Where? >> Down the bottom. >> Under notes. Don't need to set up any breakout things. Not that big of a meeting.
>> View profile. Pin. What if I pin it? >> Yeah. >> No. Remove pen. That's so weird. >> Participants. We've got them. >> Do we need to go through a roll call one more time? >> Yeah, we'll go through roll call one
more time. And with us tonight we have Dennis Clark, Chris Pratt, >> Brian Walker, >> Russ Fox, >> Brianna Dunan. >> Got it. >> All right. Nice. >> Welcome to everyone. >> Zoom. >> We can open up with public comments.
Anyone else online besides those two? Norm, do you have public comment or are you going to wait? I'll wait. Okay. All right, going to our new business. We um heard from the South Library yard revitalization
people. They are uh resending their application considering what they heard at our last meeting that because their land is not um governed by the parks that beard it can
be can be switched out of that um ownership that it does not quite fit the CPA. uh funding. So, they're um pulling the application out and they're also pulling away their
uh approved projects. They have already spent $855 from the account and they will be uh looking to pay that back.
Okay. So we are grateful that they have done that. Um so we can stay in compliance where do >> so they'd have to go back to town
meeting to resend. That's a good question. I don't know. >> Have we ever done that before? Yeah. There's been projects that have basically cancelled. >> Well, the church one didn't go through town meeting yet though. >> The church? No, but I'm talking about like past ones like APRs that fell
through and whatnot. I >> think they have to be rescended. They tell me. >> Well, we can rescend it then. >> Yeah. >> Um but not not the not this application, >> but the second one, >> right? >> Um >> do you have to vote to approve the
>> Well, let's do it anyway. >> Just in case. >> Okay. Well, I'll take a vote or a motion on the rescending of the project. So move. All right. Second by Chris Pratt. All in favor? I. Chris. I.
>> Brian Walker. I >> Chris Fox. I >> Duncan. I >> Okay, we'll go Rick and then Brianna. Okay. Rick. Brianna. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> Just keep not a problem. We'll just keep that order from now on.
>> All right. And then >> um and then with that, sorry to interrupt. Could you um just so we have it on the vote um on the minute meeting minutes to um return the $22,695
back to the CPC general unreserved fund. Um that's in regards to the receded project, >> correct? But that was never taken out. So >> no, but it was it was put into a separate account. >> Was it taken out of that originally? >> Yes. >> Okay. It's in a separate account right
now. >> Yeah, that should be returned to that. >> It would be Yeah, it would be then returned to the general unreserve fund, right? >> Um >> Yeah. So, that still needs to be voted on. >> All right. I'll make a motion to have that money returned, $22,695
to the CPC general unreserved fund from the project that has been rescended by the South Library Revitalization Group. I'll second it. >> All in favor? Dennis. I >> Chris Pratt. I pray Walker. Hi, >> West Fox. I >> Rick Harman. I
>> Ria Dunan. I >> Thank you. >> Okay. Guess we can move on to looking at the 2025 annual town reports and we didn't have a ton going on this year. So, the report is kind of short.
>> Yeah. I essentially just copied what we had last year. uh changed the like revenues um because that changed obviously and um I guess the one thing I wanted to know
is um uh in the second paragraph up it says in the next year the committee plans to increase their community outreach efforts and focus on community housing projects. They also plan on attending meetings of different boards and committees to discuss community
needs and identify possible future projects. Do you want me to leave that on here or do we want to change it up? >> Well, I don't see anybody that wants to do that. If anybody wants to, they certainly can, but I don't think we should make that a mandate of the committee because it's not part of what
the committee is. The committee takes recommendations from other boards. We don't go out seeking plans. Although, we should be making sure that boards and committees are aware that there's funding available. >> So, should I scratch that whole part out? I would agree with that.
>> Do we have any future goals for this coming year that I should add on to it? >> It's okay if it's short, sweet. It doesn't need to be elaborate. >> Maybe the goals of the community. We, you know, hope to hope to uh help
forward community goals. Where would you want to stick that? >> Probably at the end, right? Like >> make it just a nice little positive ending to the annual report. Yeah. Like all the other stuff
that earlier today as well. Anybody else have any comment or additions, subtractions, recommendations? >> It all sounded good. >> Okay. >> Um, at the end of this meeting, can we
please take a photo? >> We can try. Well, do you do you want to do it tonight? Well, is it a date thing that >> Yeah, it's a date thing. Um, I don't remember when this is due, but it's definitely due before a next meeting if
we have one. >> Well, because there's so few people here, it's >> I know. I know. Or we could not have a We could not have a photo. We don't have to have a photo. It's just I think it's nice to have a photo. >> It's nice to have a photo. >> Okay. >> All right.
All right. So, we'll approve the annual town report. I'll take a motion to uh approve as amended. >> So, move second. >> A second.
>> All in favor? >> I press I. >> Ryan Walker. >> Russ. Okay. >> Brian wanted to mix it up that time. >> Rick Herman. I >> Dunan. Thank you.
>> Okay. We can do the photo at the end, I think. >> Yeah. >> Okay. A long ways to go till then. Okay. Now, we're going to look at the budget. So, the budget as it stands as the
warrant article is our estimated funds. Um as we know it's 10% 10% 10% for our different uh areas. We have 65% the general fund and then we have the 5% for the administrative
account. So what we have up now are projected incomes and also the projected budget. So, we'll have to make sure that when we're at town meeting that people
understand it's not that dollar amount necessarily, but that's what the projected number looks like >> from the state >> from the Yeah. >> So, we had a question I was asking Sabrina, should we project high so we
could spend the money? If we if we project low, we're not going to be able to spend it. That's what I was that's what I want to make sure that people understand that it's projected and it's an estimate. >> But as far as spending it goes as far as >> we can spend what is the 10%.
>> We say we're down here but what if >> this isn't 10% necessarily but that's you know like you say that's to your point project high then if it's lower >> what you got to lose. >> Yeah. I mean, you were 100,000 over last
year, right? >> Yeah. That was my mistake. >> No, it's it's a honest mistake and you don't have a crystal ball. So, >> yep. Oh, >> that's why I'm saying make sure that we let the public understand that this is a projection. >> Yeah. And Laura looked this over. She
thinks it's okay. >> And I mean the part and hopefully maybe next week we'll have some clarification on this. Do we need to have an estimated dollar amount or can we say 10%. For monies that we we raise make a lot
more sense. >> That's what we always used to do. >> You would still have to say projected at 10%. Right. So that it's not >> it's going to be it's going to be definitely 10% or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Not projected at 10% but 10% projected
of X. Right. So yeah. >> Correct. Correct. Yes. Otherwise, people get stuck on that. Yeah. >> Right. Right. Um so it's going to be 10% of our >> what we're taking in will go to open space, 10% will go to housing, 10, you
know, the store, and then or 65% of that will go to the general and reserve, 5% to the uh administrative fund, but we don't know how much money that is out of. So we're, you know, the percentage projected. That's right. >> The percentage is accurate. It has to
be% >> deducted money is not. So that's it's a sticking point with me. It's a >> Yeah. So in the warrant article it is stated that this is an estimate and then I have in the explanation it talks about
um how we have to do the 10% for the historic community housing and open space. Um then it also goes on to talk about how we can set aside 5% of the annual revenues for um the administrative account. So I did explain
what we can do can do and what we have to do at least in that. So hopefully >> the explanation will be published in something so people can read it ahead of time >> or during the meeting.
>> Yeah. And then in addition to um this warrant article, I have the um Allen treatment debt service. Uh back in 2020 during special town meeting, um the town voted to appropriate $800,000 to pay for
the alum treatment. $200,000 was taken out of the G community preservation general unreserve fund and 600,000 was borrowed in the form of bonds. So, this is what this um warrant article is about. So, the appropriation sum of this
year will be $63,900. >> Okay. >> And now I have to write another warrant article to resend >> Yes. Rescend the >> library. >> The library. >> Quick question. >> Yes. >> The the bond issue.
Is there any thought of paying off the bond early? >> I mean >> I mean I don't see any projects. >> Yeah. you know, and >> I I'd rather not pay the interest myself, Russ. >> Right. No, but I'm I don't know if we can legally do that. The ramifications
are >> I'm not really sure either, >> but this might be a great year to do that. >> You know, that might be something we could look into for sure. >> Yeah, I I I think we can do that. >> I have a meeting or Tuesday. I hopefully Tuesday. It's not permed up with Stuart
and Chase back from >> Yeah, >> I'm just I'm just throwing that. >> We'll put that on our list of questions. Yeah, because because it looks like around 300,000 would would pay it off. >> That would be amazing. I think you're >> Yeah, there's more information on the actual on the bond. It's the last page
that I think we have. >> I'm just you know Yeah. Right. >> Just throwing it out there. >> If it's possible, >> you know, it's um that's I mean showing them good stewards of the money. >> Well, that might have to be a good like a recommendation from the select board, right? Coming forward. Right. Right.
Right. Okay. So, as the warrant articles that you see, um, at least these two, um, do they look okay? >> When do they have to be submitted by Sabre? >> You know what? I don't know. We don't
have a date, but I want to get these out as early as possible so it's not a crunch at the end because that's what it seems to be every year. It's a crunch and people are scrambling around and poor counsel got all these warrant articles that they need to look through.
I'd rather them have it early on know what's on the warrant for us and then they >> can change it if it needs to be >> if it needs to be changed. They can change it. We can look at it. We can approve it again. Um, >> I don't put that one to bed ear early.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that's why I wanted you and I don't know when we're going to have our next meeting, >> right? >> I don't know if we're going to have a February meeting. So, >> Mr. Pratt might be away that week. We're going to vote on this tonight, though.
>> No. Well, more articles. >> If you want Yes. If you want to approve the these two and then I can work on the receipt the other one >> always revote if it changes. >> So I'll take a motion on the >> I'll make a motion budget warrant >> to approve it. >> I'll second all in favor I
>> Chris Pratt I >> Brian Walker I >> Russ I Rick >> Herman I Dunan I >> Thank you everyone. Okay, we can move on to old business. Review CPC master plan lead and support priorities from the master plan
committee. Tabled that from last meeting. We do have with us tonight Nor Warm Chver who is the chair of the master plan committee. Come on down. >> Dave Spina is your liaison. He's not here tonight. After I heard he wasn't
here, thought maybe I could come because I was already here for economic development downstairs. So, >> what the heck? >> Didn't have to use any extra gas. That's good. >> So, I So, okay. So, there's really two items. We're still waiting to complete the uh uh prioritization of support
actions. I think there's a handful of people that haven't finalized. >> We've got John, Joanne, Briana, and then Dennis.
Okay, we got Dennis is all set now. >> Way to get off the naughty list. Dennis, >> what I would recommend is just set a date if they don't have it in by then. >> No, I was going to say the same thing. If it's not in, they don't have a voice, >> right? >> Deadlines, you know, can make that
>> That's fine. >> I'll let you be in charge of the date. >> A month. A month from now. I don't know. >> If you don't make it quicker than that, they're not going to do it then either.
>> John it falls off. Well, what happens with me anyway is if it's not due like tomorrow, it falls off my list of things to do and then you forget all about it completely. Then you get to the next go. >> Yeah. >> So, I think if we make it this week coming >> by next Wednesday.
>> Yeah. How do we do that? >> Okay. >> Hear that, Brianna? >> Yes. >> Okay. Oh, you got that. >> Wait, wait a minute. She's in an airport. Is she going on vacation or coming back? >> Yeah. What's happening? >> Doesn't matter. She can leave you a
line. She can give her input. She's going on vacation. You can't make You're right. I can't make her because she wants to. That's up to her. >> I think I did half. I think I only have half left. I'll do it.
>> It It mean It shouldn't take that long anyway. It does. It take 10 minutes. Yeah. The second item that I just handed out here, you have one lead action item and I'll read it because there's two people online
and it's housing action item 3.2. Establish a public housing trust fund to receive, manage, and administer community preservation act CPA funds for housing projects including rental properties. The supporting parties to
support you on this is the planning board, select board, community preservation coalition. Now, what we're looking for on this is an estimate on what year you think you could complete this project. >> Well, I have a few questions. First, as
far as >> reasoning behind this, why do you think we need one? There haven't been any housing projects come forward. The we have a ton of money left in the account for housing. >> They wouldn't have to go to town meeting
to approve every one of their projects. That was the same thing we talked about having a trust fund for conservation for >> so things that come up there like two people meeting. I don't know if people like that idea not having an opportunity to vote on each and every project.
>> Yeah. I don't know be the only downside. I don't I'd like to do it for confirmation. >> Can we I don't know if we can. >> You can. >> Well, that's just like writing a blank check for >> the funds just need to be used in a CPA manner, >> right? >> So, if the housing the affordable
housing, >> they'll have to approve it here at a meeting. >> Okay. But the funding would already be there. You wouldn't have to go to town meeting to ask the public for that specific project. So, they couldn't take it out of general funding. >> It Well, they'd have their funds. Yeah
to 10% that may grow over the years. Yep. Okay. So, master plan imple implementation committee did not develop these. This was done by the master plan advisory committee that got from to over two years.
>> Y >> 17 members and they made the decisions on where they went, who got them. Yep. >> Along with recommendations from Pine Valley Planning >> gave to Sabrina today a copy of all of
the modifications you can make to a master plan item including transferring it to another organization >> and we had a conversation I like we aren't the entity to bring projects
forward. So, I would like to see this come from housing or maybe move this to their housing to bring this forward to us >> because I think that'd be the more appropriate way of handling >> the housing issue. >> I think that's the legal way because the
CPC can't create the housing fund. It's the H I believe it's the housing authority and how they do that I I don't know what process they need to go through. Um, and then once the fund is created, they would need to apply to the
CPC to put money into the fund and that would be on an annual basis or as needed. >> Right. Okay. So, what I would recommend is you pen something to to me or Dave,
your lesson on >> justifying why you think it doesn't belong here and where you think it should go. You want to get one? >> Where's the other one? >> Right here. >> I just have one copy for So, I already did that. Here is a copy for you for the
master plan implementation committee. And then we have a copy to signed >> um that Chris lost, but it's okay. I can print it out. It's >> here somewhere. I saw that earlier. >> Um that I can send over to the housing authority. >> Sign that, please.
>> I'll pop that in their mailbox. Um, >> we'll bring this up at our next meeting, which is February 4th. >> So, I'm glad I came. >> Glad you came as well. Quick way to deliver the mail.
>> That's all I have. Uh, >> although we're up to 18. The board came in with six promises to complete by 6:30. So, we've got 18 master plan items scheduled to be done by June 30th. >> Excellent. We appreciate your work. It's
a >> big pretty well, but it is it is big and >> doesn't come without breaking. >> Nothing does. >> So, thank you very much. >> All right. Thank you. >> And if you want me to take the photo,
I'll be glad to take your photo. >> Oh, you want >> before he leaves? We can turn the computer around. You guys can >> We could do that, too. >> Can't do that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> We just have a couple little >> Put me next to Sabrina. Put me next to Sabrina. She makes me look good. >> I don't know how to take that. >> That doesn't sound good. I sure meant as a compliment.
>> Oh, absolutely. I don't know about that. >> Okay. Holiday tree. Holiday is over. >> So, but we can talk about the tree. We did do a tree. Um, actually, I took some pictures. I can send it out to
everybody. >> That'd be nice. >> Um, and so the tree is it's purchased. It's over in my office for next year along with decor. I have your decorations if you want to take them. >> No, I don't want >> Oh, they're donating. >> Okay. Um, so
>> you want me to take them? Is there no room to store them? >> There. It's just kind of sitting in my office. Um, but we can use them next year. It's fine. I wasn't sure if >> if you can No, if you can store them, that would be awesome. I have no storage in my house. >> Okay. So, the tree and the decorations
are in my office on top of my um um bile cabinet things. Um, it's labeled, too. >> You want to throw something away that you didn't want to use, that's fine. >> Yeah. I wouldn't want to throw Christmas family Christmas decorations
>> they weren't heirlooms they were bought from Kmart was in business >> on sale >> that's an heirloom >> so I think um if we yeah if we want to do this next year we're encouraged to do
so um and hopefully other boards and committees will follow suit so then we'll have this nice little winter wonderland in the for >> and you got reimbursed for the trick. >> Yeah, partly like solar money.
>> Okay, I got re >> had Venmo. >> I know. I need to sign up for Venmo. Everyone keeps telling me that. >> Okay, we'll look at the minutes for November 19th. >> Are you done? And >> you cut the copy sign.
>> I do. >> Any comments? >> Sabrina. Sabrina, can I or do you need me to come by sometime next week to sign them as I'm out of town? >> Does that work? >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay.
>> It's a good thing you mentioned it because I just hand it off. Mhm. >> That's fine. >> Okay. I'll take a motion on a minute if there are no questions or concerns. >> So move.
>> Brian keeps point. >> All in favor? >> Bennett. I >> Brad I Walker. I >> Russ Fox I. >> Rick >> Herman. I dung I. All right. All right.
So, send it around. Picture time. >> Picture time. I'm going to try to turn the computer around so we can get >> well >> our zoomers on. >> How about we uh we uh adjourn first so we don't take up other people's time.
>> All right. Make a motion then, sir. Did you make a motion? >> I'd like to make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second there time second for the second ISI.
>> Ryan, I >> Rick Arman. I >> don't. >> Okay, you guys can stay online and get your pictures taken. >> Well, Briana, you obviously you don't have to. see her there. >> I'm just going to pause the recording,
but that's going to be our our adjournment.