Seeing it is 7 o'clock. I'll call the October 6 Consultant Conservation Commission meeting to order in conference room three. This is a hybrid meeting both Zoom and in person. We'll first take a roll call vote of
members. Andy Rever. We do have a quorum here. We'll open up with public comments. Anybody in the audience that would like to make any comments? If I don't see any, is there anybody
online that would like to make any comments? Okay. So, we'll close the public comment section. It's not 7:05 yet for our first public hearing. We'll review the minutes. Um, September 15.
Let's just do it. Okay. Let me just move it out to somebody. read to them all earlier on page four the review of conditions for two fing drive. Um do we want to state what was
the outcome? Sabrina said she had the order of conditions that was ready to be signed. Do we want to put what the outcome was? We do them and signed them. Sure.
And it completes the story. Fantastic. Wow. That's pretty good. And [Music] you pick that up.
Oh yes. Okay. Make sure that it's finished. I reviewed them and I don't changes. Anybody else found anything there? Good job. I'll take a motion then.
Make a motion. Approve as amended. Second motion. The second roll call vote. Andy ISI unanimous vote for [Music] motion.
Good. [Music] Thank you. Good roll. I got a roll soon over. All right. So, we'll go to our public hearings. The first one is, and I'll read the the article was in the paper.
The Southwood Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing under the Massachusetts Wetland Protection Act, GLC 131, Section 40, Southwood Conservation Commission Regulations, and bylaw, Chapter 182 and Chapter 450.
Request request of determination project location is 132 Ber Avenue South Mass 135 parcel 006. The applicant opposes site improvements within the 100 foot puffer of a wetland.
The meeting will be held on October 6, 2025 via Hywood starting at 700 p.m. in the South Town Hall and on Zoom. Know that we'll open up No, the petitioner.
Hi. Come on and join us if you'd like. Sure. Um before you start speaking, did you sign in? Uh no. Anyone who's going to speak tonight, just please sign in. You said that so kindly and polite. But that's the chance. Someone was a child.
Wait. Oh, not not like Jean. Well, she knows she was burdened. That's what I'm saying. Hi, my name is Ed Mozinski. I live at 132 Birkshire. And
my story begins when I came out of my house one day, started walking down my steps heading toward a lake and this huge branch came down. Didn't hit me. Came within probably 30 feet of me, but it could have hit me if
I have kept going. I have pictures of it. And I have pictures of the trees I have in question. There are two of them. I had the uh an estimate come guy a tree cutter come out give me an estimate. First thing he noticed was the base of
the tree. Most of the base the roots are above ground. So he said not a hell of a lot holding that tree up to begin with and it's fairly large. Um but and they're both leaning so they're not going straight
up. Yeah. But when that branch came down for no reason just crashed and there are other branches up in that tree that look very similar to that and any one of them come down somebody could get hurt. So for safety's sake I'm willing to spend the money and get rid
of those two trees if I have permission because my opinion it's a huge safety issue for me. If if it doesn't hurt somebody physically, it's going to create a lot of damage because if you if I could show you the pictures. I have the pictures. Oh, here's one of them. Yeah.
Okay. See the root base? Yeah. See how it's sticking out of the ground there? Try this. Yeah. Go on to the next one. There's that one. There's that one. Yeah. Which is is the same, right? This is the branch that you meant.
Yeah. This is the one that Yeah. It took two of us to get it off the just push it over the fence there. That was heavy. Came right off that tree that's also leaning there. So, I've got those two that I'm concerned about.
Those are located. Well, the picture we don't have those word time. Um, what's that again? We don't have a tree warden because Ry's gone. Oh, not 100% sure if John signed up for the
job or not. John, I believe he was Was he appointed? He was appointed. Yeah. Yeah. Those circles there on the yellow line are the two trees right there.
Who did you have look at get the trees? I had two estimates, but uh I have uh Ryan from Ryan's Tree Service. We'll if I have permission, he'll he'll get the contract. Ryan, do you Ryan's on the call right now? Ryan, do you have anything to say
about these trees? You see me here yet? Yep. Just state your name and address, please. How you doing, Ryan? Duncan Ryan's tree service. Hello everybody. Um I did look at those trees and the one on the left side of the stairs was definitely concern and the surface roots
are sticking above ground. Um there's definitely not a lot holding that tree on the bank per se. Um I was definitely in favor of taking those out. That's what you do for a living. Yeah. I mean, I would want them out if
they were if they were my trees just where they were. I mean, both of them. It sounds like there, you know, that one of them definitely needs to come down. You think both of them need to come down? Well, the other one the other one showed decline towards the top of the trees as well. Um, branch.
Yeah, that one that one showed a lot of decline towards the top or the other tree was more of a base issue. Yeah. How far are they away from the lake? I have a picture halfway upstairs. And they all grow like this.
Yeah. Give me a second to collect my thoughts. If I could if you could I don't know if you could see it on this. Go ahead and take over. Normally, it's probably about the 50 mark. Yeah. I think it's about
there is those steps are long. Here's a picture of it. And if you if you go, it's right about where my finger is here. So, you still got a good distance to the water. So, but it's right the tree. You can't see it yet.
Yeah, it's about 50 ft. But it's here. And then you got still some. Yeah. See how many here? And there's the tree nearest the lake. That's the one that lost the branch. And then I think this is the next one right there. Yeah, that's the one that's got the roots problem. And it's
it's got some scary looking branches, too. But yeah, those are the two trees. They do lean a lot. The water and they're big. They probably would hit the dock as they came down. They would crush the boat. One of them
would hit the boat. Yeah. Yeah. You take out your dock and and the boat because I met So, if it didn't kill somebody, I mean, geez, look at it. So, if we give you per permission, you're willing to plant two two other
trees, replace them. Well, if I have to. I was just going to leave the stumps there for now because Yeah. I don't want to dig up the ground. Leave the Leave the I was going to leave the stumps, but you tell me where to plant trees. I mean, that's all sidehill and it's rocky and
probably not a good idea, but I'll do it if that's the contingency. But plant some shrubs. Shrubs, sure. I don't have a problem with shrub. Yeah, those trees those get those rott away. Something else has to be there to
hold the whatever hillside the stone kind of plant around them. Brian, are those are those the black oak that we were had talked about before? How the black oak tend to rot in the middle.
Exactly. Yep. Big white oak. And there there was sign of ant damage and and that the one up towards the top of the stairs as well. The one with the raised surface roots. There was signs of ant damage in that one as well. And we wouldn't be we are doing that one with a
crane. We wouldn't have anything in the 100 foot wetland buffer setup equipment wise. We do need a police detail there on that one. Um we would be setting the crane up towards the top of the street so there'd be no ground impact in the wetland buffer. [Music]
What do you think? Normally it's no further discussion. I'll take a a motion. I make a motion to find a negative. I'll second that. Okay. So, we have a motion by Dennis, seconded by MT for a negative determination. Any uh conditions in there?
Plants and shrubs or some shrubs native roots where to put it. Find a room there. We can find a spot. Okay. Two two shrubs. One shrub. How many sheds?
We would like at least four if you take out. I don't have room for four. I've got one already growing there. One above and below. Yeah. See above it. If you look at the picture, I'll show you a picture of the base here.
Show them here for sure. There. See here? All right. See this one here? There's no well there's no room above it because there's a big concrete wall here. Okay. I can plant one here where in
front of it I guess like there's a better picture. See the concrete wall and the stones. So I can't put one there. Yeah. Let's call this wall. Yeah. Mhm. So I can't put a shrub there. I mean if
if I find room in front of the roof. There isn't a lot of room there. There's no room. No, the other tree. Let's see if I got a picture of the other one. No, that's the same one. This one I might be able to I don't have a good picture of the base
there. I could probably put a shrub here in front of it and maybe look for a space behind it. I mean, once we cut the stump and leave it there, put one on each side of it. But the one on the front there, there's just no place to put it.
Just pass it over. Yeah, there it is. Right there. Yeah. Anywhere. Even along the fence line in between. I can put one in here. And I've already got one there. See it? So, I've got one growing there. I can put one in front of it. Yeah. You would have room in right in front of it. Like
I can put one right there. Go past those stones. And soil is okay. I can dig the stones out. Put a shrub there. You're like, you know, a couple of feet in front. Okay. what I can do. Yeah. But the the one on the top, there's just no place to pull them. Yeah. Whatever you say. Do you want to specify a number or just the whatever it
permits? Whatever it can fit in there for thugs. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. As as space permits. Okay. Okay. Minimum of what? Two. One or two. Minimum of two. Two. Okay. I'll put two in. Okay. Yeah. The cup one. I mean once you start
diddling with that it's actually file is pretty yeah there's already one there so I don't have to worry about that. So the only thing you do there is just going to disturb it more. So just leave the stump we leave it. Was our motion seconded? Yeah you move.
Yesed we modified it to say replace it with two shrubs. Okay. Okay. So we'll do a roll call vote. Andy I I a car I unanimous vote for a negative
determination which means you can remove him please. Okay. So will you send me written confirmation or something that I can present to the tree cutter? Y okay he's on the line anyway. Okay. Good to go
ability. It's just a blank. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm sign. [Music] Oh yeah. [Music]
Crazy. [Music] We'll go over there. Try again. All right, we'll move on to our next public hearing. The Southwood Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing under Massachusetts
Wetland Protection Act, GLC 131, Section 40. in Southwood Conservation Commission regulation and bylaw chapter 182 and chapter 450 for request of determination. Project location is for our rising corner road.
The applicant proposes building a single family home with a lawn being within the 100 foot wetland buffet. The meeting will be held on October 6, 2025 via Harvard starting at 700 p.m. in the Salt Pen Hall and on Zoom.
And we will open up the hearing to the petitioner or his delegate. Name for the record. Um, sorry I'm losing my voice. Uh, it's 572
East River Road in I live in Chester. Um, so not you're here. I filed a request for determination for John Eaton. He's the property owner of four and four Rising Corner Road at um
four. There's an existing house that's it's a um a house that's been here since the early 1900s. Um excuse me. He um has uh the the back
property which is uh 4R and uh it consists of some forested land and a field that has also been um maintained as a a farm field for
decades. I looked back in um Ryan, we can hear you. Sorry about that. Um, I looked back at um old aerials and it was since like the 40s that it's been
maintained as a field, farm field. Um what he is proposing on doing is taking the back lot and it it doesn't conform as a building lot right now. So he is reconfiguring the lot in
order to make it a building lot and then he wants to build a house in the back field. Um right now the resource areas on site there's a perennial stream uh along the easterly property line and
associated bordering vegetated wetlands. Um when you change the property lines for river uh perennial stream, you lose your um
grandfathered status for working within the riverfront area. So by changing the lot lines, we also had to move all the work outside of the riverfront area. Um
and in order to do that, we also had to um he's looking to purchase um additional land from an AB butter at 300 um South Longard Road. So that lot is
right on the corner. And if you can see the this triangle piece of land is um is will be purchased and both all three
of the lots will be conforming to all um applicable zoning um and planning regulations. Um, in order to stay outside of the 200t riverfront area, uh, he's going to put
the driveway along the westerly side of the existing house. It'll go back into the field area and, uh, all the work will stay outside of the 200 foot riverfront area. That is will be marked,
uh, visually by, um, a silk fence line. so that during construction they know where that limit of work line is. Um and the house everything will be outside of the riverfront area and the 100 foot
buffer except for a small portion of the 100 foot buffer extends into or beyond that riverfront area. If you can see it's right here. Yep. and uh he proposes to instead of
just mow that, you know, for like three cuts of hay, it will be maintained as lawn. So, it'll be mowed, you know, every week. Um, and that's the proposed work that's in the buffer zone is mowing
an area that is currently a field and it'll be just mowed to uh turn into lawn. you decided to do this as an RDA because the NOI didn't think we'd need it for this project.
I didn't think so. It's just mowing a field more times than uh just we're not going to be able to put orders and conditions on RDA. Just to make it clear, normally we'd say, you know, mark off
the 200 foot area with something, you know, to identify it. That could be a condition. What in the RDA? Yeah. Typically, there's like some sort of signage or holdage prompt. That's for that constant long-term reminder.
If the commission felt comfortable with that, they could do that. But did you get the number of how much square feet would turn into a lawn? Uh, yes. It was about 7,10 square feet.
Okay. That's that is over the threshold of a thousand for an RDA. [Music] assuming I was disappointed the 1934 photograph wasn't I was interested to see that
they have um copyrights on them. All right. So if you go to historic aerials you can see all the areas but um you can't I didn't want to print it out. I could print it out, but for copyright reasons, I was hoping for the back. I was looking.
Yeah, I think the back here just intriguing to see. It's a nice website to look at. You can see anywhere and they have um all the aerials and topos. Um looking back far,
so the local bylaw says anything, thousand feet or over needs a an Yeah, that's anything under a thousand would be a DA. Um but over a thousand. Okay. I mean
it is an already maintained field. I do understand that. But I'm assume he's going to be putting grass seed and probably fertilizing it. Um I'm not sure. I think traditionally hay fields are fertilized and seated now. So I don't
know if that's much of a stretch a change. That's true. Right. And Kevin would be better to speak to that really being from what I see constantly those fields if they want good head. I'm just more concerned about it turning
into lawn area more land area than he has owned the property for a while now. Um and he doesn't mow it. you know, he hasn't extended his lawn area to somebody, then he wouldn't have any he wouldn't
have any control. He wouldn't have any control, right? And the person that bought it said, "I didn't know. There's no recorded order conditions on." And he um to answer your question, he does propose
to continue to um mow or um that field um up to three times a year um the existing field that's already there. Um just because he doesn't here. No. Uh, unfortunately he opened up um a
restaurant and their um oneyear anniversary is tonight and they were they're having a big party tonight. So um he couldn't be here tonight. We can go after um I mean if this was a notice of intent
I'd say it's a done deal. You know it looks good. everything. We have the teeth. Everything looks great. We could get a bond on it and all that kind of good stuff, but without having to bond either. What about um putting in the um order in
the determination some conditions that he put in permanent monuments along the 200t riverfront area. Um he was already going to have Smitty locate that 200 foot and stake it out
just so that he could put the silt fence in. Um, we could, but then if you decide you didn't want to do it, then there's nothing we could do about it. Or if future generations decide they don't want to do any, if they want to move those boulders, we can't go back
and say, "Hey, the rocks need to be there, right? I mean, that's what problem Foster owner's upset that he bought a property with wetlands. Nobody told him. I would have been calling for a vote by now if this was a intent." So, it's just
I'm not personally comfortable. I don't know how everybody else feels about it. If they are, then it's fine. You make some good points. It's not the end of the world putting in a notice of intent, right? I would basically just fill out
the form, the filing fee and take my report tonight along the he withdrew the idea of putting a lot there. Take that line off, move it over here tonight and say you want to put the silk
fence up and then come back with a notice of intent. Hey, I want to change that to lawn. That way you can get started. I'm presuming that's what the press is tonight. He wants to get started. Right. Yeah. Okay. So, if that is presented as this line is erased, we're going with that
line only. Right. There's a great plan and everything, but the you want the rocks on that line. They have control the bond, right? Actually, write the order conditions to
support it. you know, it's a lot more clout than just I mean you want to clean I do um could the um
conditions on the RDA explain that that if he um wants to start sooner then he cannot work within the 100 foot buffer without filing a notice of we find it negative that means a project is negative Yeah.
Period. It makes it right. Okay. Can't say it's negative, but not, you know, it's either negative or positive. I would I would go with positive at this
time if they're looking for my opinion. Would you still approve the delineation and with a positive? What is that? a positive two
a or something and then absolutely improve your delineation any day of the week, Heather. And then um then that just buys me a little bit of time to uh file the rest of it.
You're right. Mhm. [Music] How's that sound, Norm? Well, it sounds okay, but I got a couple other questions. Uh, is there a septic system?
The septic system is proposed outside of the buffer zone and the riverfront area. Okay. Is it is it well water or do the neighbors have public water? Um,
we're worried. Sure. My question is if other if the neighbors have wells, how far is it from the septic system? Yep. It would all have to be 100 feet away from all septic systems and but it's not on this plan.
Yeah. Okay. So, it would have to be changed if they changed it, but that's where the dictator so the health and so this public Right.
And there's plenty of room for him to be 100 feet away from property lines to I love the idea. Everything's outside the riverfront area. It's great. It's fantastic. I was intrigued that the driveway went over here because the pictures that you
had that we had showed like the driveway over here but didn't explain like all these property lines were moving around. I was scratching my head like why are they put in the driveway in the other guy's yard but he's changing all his yards of all the different parcels. Do you have to go zoning board to get that
changed or um I wouldn't um Smith Associates would they would do and it's an ANR plan and um so the plan is all ready for that. They were just waiting to get approval
from conservation. Um and he's been busy with Tribeca his restaurant. So restaurant Yeah. And um so he wasn't in a in a big rush to get that get this part going. He
was more focused on that. So this plan has been done for a while and um just getting around to doing it now. Somebody want to formulate a motion and make a motion to find it positive.
the uh RDA positive and the delineation positive. Yeah, I think it's a positive two positive two for the delineation. We have a form
I think actually will bring it up. Yeah. [Music] Go back. Stop sharing the screen. Oh, yeah. What day of the week is that?
Must be Sunday. It's a brunch. Probably Sat Sunday brunch. All right. Put that on my brother's to-do list. Wouldn't see him Thursday. No, he's in Boston recording something. Yeah.
[Music] Oh, I put yours on the I think that's the next one. So, we got a motion on the floor for positive determination and positive delineation. Do have that description. Do we have a second? Second.
That is made to second. So you want to see the form first? Our confirm was accurate. And what number is that? That is 2A. 2A. Yep. Therefore, if there's area boundaries confirmed in this determination are
binding as all decisions are pursuant to the wetlands protection act and it's region is valid. self. Okay. So, we have a motion
the negative deter positive determination and delineation. Roll call vote. Andy I must vote for positive notice of intent. Thank you. Thank you very much. used to work for us.
And now for our third public hearing. The Southwest Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing under the Massachusetts Weapon Protection Act GLC 131 section 40 and the Southwest Conservation Commission regulations in
bylaw chapter 182 and chapter 450. The request of determination. The project is located at 18 Grand Street south of Mass, map 148, parcel 04056. The applicant proposes to remove one
tree within the 100 foot buffalo of Lake Con. The meeting will be held on October 6, 2025 by a hybrid starting at 700 p.m. in the south town hall and on Zoom. We'll open up the hearing to the petitioner. Dave, would you like to join
us up here? Yes. It sounds very familiar to the story from a fellow couple. Example, I only have one tree, only one tree, but the tree I'm looking at uh has been on my beach for quite a long time,
but in the last couple years between all the wind storms and everything that we've been having, you can see it's decaying. Wind is ending up on my dock, but branches are everywhere. And I I said I thought contacted Ryan's tree service and come down take a look at it
and say you know see what he could do because it is in a you know very close to the lake and we have a neighbor who's very uh understanding about he was bringing his equipment through the my neighbor's property down to the beach
area putting some uh Brian called it arbar uh plating or rubber mats to protect his reached down to the area to bring his machinery down to remove the tree. Um,
back in two, well, back in 2022 August, I had a tree on my neighbor's property that on a Sunday afternoon at about 12:30, fell down up his bank onto my boat. I don't know if there's pictures there
right there, but it is if I was in that boat at 12:30 getting on going out for a ride on the lake at 12:30 Sunday, I wouldn't be here. So, uh, that's the tree to the left is the one I'm one I'm talking about. Yeah, I want to take that one on. Ryan's still on the line.
Yes, he is. Yeah, I'm still here. What kind of disease is that, Ryan? Well, it's it's got a similar situation that the other one had. That's got a root rot at the base on the black oak in that photo. um which is very similar to what we just
went through in the last meeting there. It's definitely showing some kind of decay towards the base of the tree. Um and it does have a heavy lean over the dock in the boat. Now, the finicky situation is we don't have crane access
on this one um to set up up top. We would have to remove more trees in order to do it. Um, which I think the the best situation there's a a a right away that's paved down to the road. Um, and along the bank there's a
it's flat down there, but we can mat from the pavement in and keep very minimal ground disturbance, but we are going to be in that wetland buffer with equipment on this one. That's the way they brought the equipment in when they took the tree off
my boat was coming down that access road right there. Yeah. Right through the bottom there. Yep. And he brought his machinery right down there and three or four hours he was all done taking that all that that huge tree right off my boat.
And so again, the access road is where? See this? You're not coming in from White Street, are you? No. Gran View Street. Okay. Yeah. Right on the sharp corner when you pull on to Gran View Street on the right hand side. When you go up there, the first right hand the first corner to the left,
there's a there's a garage right there. That's right where that road is. That's where I got the black arrow. Okay. You come down there and then you go between his garage and a little island there. And you come right around the house. Uh he's got a big deck on there and then that's where you go. My arrow
goes down towards the lake. And then when we get to the lake, we take a left and go there. That's exactly how it I had three tops. Drew Keenan come in and do that before. Are you planning to wait till the ground freezes or No,
no. I probably I told Ryan he said nothing will touch the water. Uh nothing's going to nothing's going to touch even the ground. I got to leave my dock in, but I'm going to take my boat out. We're just worried about the access that it that'll create disturbance on
the way down. Oh, no. Yeah, there's there's nothing. There's nothing there. When you take a left off the driveway, is it directly on the sand or is that grass? Oh, no. It's grass. It's a beach. It's a It's actually right there. It is grass. And then he slowly, the neighbor has taken out and made a little bit larger
beach area there. And you're going to put padding or Yeah. He's going to use like he said corduroy or something like that down there. This is in Yeah. Yeah. We got we have 3/4 in clear polymats that are cleated on both sides. And a job like this, I would just do it when the weather was in full
cooperation. I'm not going to go try to do this job after it rained two days ago. This I would wait for a week of dry weather. Go there before, make sure that it's dry enough or we can get in and do minimal ground disturbance. Sounds good. Mr. Ryan, you said you have
to take down other trees. Well, if I know if I did it with a crane, I would have to because the boom the boom wouldn't be able to reach this one. Um, and we'd be talking counterweights in a whole different scenario. That's why I think this this method is going to be the best. I think weather permitting is
going to be a major factor here. Um, and just hitting this when the weather is perfect is going to be, but I I mean, we deal with that every day on people's lawns. So, well, and Treetops looked at this when it fell on my boat. He came out about 5 days after this branch this tree fell on
my boat and he thought of using a crane, but then he looked where the queen was going to be. As soon as the neighbor said, "You have access to go down that driveway. Go down there." He said, "Fine and dandy." Huh. Good neighbor. Neighbor. Yep. Yep.
And they're going to replace it with smaller trees and such. Yeah. I'll put shrubs, couple trees, whatever you want. You know, I'll leave the stuff. Yeah, I mean this just stump stays. Stump stays. Okay. Stump stays. Not a problem. Well, it sounds like with all the protections you're offering that this
wouldn't be no impact to the environment, right? Sounds reasonable. I guess that would lean towards a negative determination. Sure. Plantings. Is that what you want? Oh, yeah. Maybe some shrubs or if you can fit a tree if you inclined probably
something. That's the other guy. Wonder where that is. What you call it? Uh um that northern tap. That was a $40,000 repair job on my boat when that other tree fell out. Papers. $40,000 that fall on there. My boat was only a year old.
It was a brand new boat. About a year old. And then it fell right down. And I could hear the tree cracking. Crack crack. I heard it right on there. Yes. So I don't want that to happen again. We don't either.
Are you looking for a motion? Norman? Yes, I am. I'll move for a negative determination. Okay. With plantings. With planting. Yeah. Okay. Y second that. I'll second it. There you go.
So Jerry made the motion. And he made the second. Any further discussion? I think he's outlined it really nice here. So yeah, the hammer part four hours, four and a half hours on a Saturday afternoon. I took me there. That's due diligence. You did a good job, huh?
Due diligence. Yeah. Yep. It's officially done. Roll call vote then. Andy I norm. Jerry I. Unanimous vote for negative determination. Good. Thank you. Thank you, Dave.
Thank you. Ryan will have fun. I'm lucky to have a good neighbor though. Very lucky to have a neighbor. And everybody on the lake can see it. Very good. Thank you very much. Byebye. See you. Byebye. See you.
Okay. The next item is we have an emergency certification 485 and 491 highway. Yep. You guys have copies of it in your um folders. This one is um to the streets giant
hogweed. Is anyone familiar with giant hogweed? Was there last time that they had problem with it? They pulled it out of the ground and buried it. And Wayne Magny did it and he is not allergic to giant hogweed.
Amazing. Yeah. Super human. So, giant hogweed is a very very large um herbaceous plant that looks similar to clean and lace like the native carrot,
but it's huge and um the sap gets on your skin it can make you photo I don't know the term but when the sun hits you you can get blisters and burnings and um yeah it is nasty and long thing or just while this happens
though. See, I don't know. It's just when this happens. Yeah. Yeah. So, you don't want you don't want it to spread. Um, so this was an MDAR is the one that contacted me about this and said that they they'd like to treat it. MRA.
Oh, it's Yeah. Yeah. So, they're the ones that are organizing this. Um, and they say what they treat it with. Yeah. So, um, work to be loud. So they're going to try herbicide on the first year plants and seed lapping on uh
the second year plants because I guess the second year is the one that actually makes the seeds. And herbicide garland 3a the active ingredient of that is trioper and then the surfectant um library. The
active ingredient is soiloids. Um, so it's hard to tell the locations behind the parking lot. Yeah. Let me get um a colored photo. I was just trying to save us some money. This is the time of year to do it because they draw everything to the
roof, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is the perfect time to do it. Let's see. This is treat. Oh, but if they they're not going to take it out of there or dispose of it. They're just going to treat it there. Yeah. Um well they're they'll take the
seed heads if there are seed heads. Um bag it and disposable bag from the side. These things are massive. They are really big. Big white flowers. They're they're insanely big. Very easy to identify.
Jeez. Look at that. Yeah. a first year plants herbicide other seed cut diagram I can um share the so the second plant doesn't come back a third year
it's the idea so you take all the seeds and then spray everything else so up on the screen right here is well my computer is just really really slow but where you have the crosshairs right there that is kettleb bread oh yeah um and then these are the areas that the
giant hogweed was found. I actually went out there to have a look. I didn't go into the field at all. I couldn't see anything, but that doesn't mean they're not there. Maybe the first years are smaller. Um, but this this is an emergency just so
they could treat it right before the seeds start spread. It's a good idea. I'm glad to see they're taking initiative on that. Yes, we don't need that here. Where did they find it? Were they getting a coffee or having a I think someone reported it. I think
someone reported it on the MDR website and they satellite facial recognition big enough you probably could see it. There's new apps that you can determine what plants are just by pointing your camera at it. Maybe somebody was
Google does that. Did that invasive. Maybe we should know. And he probably went back there to pick some Queen Anne's lace and then realize it wasn't. Every time I see Queen, I just freak out. I think every plant's going to try to pull me out. Water hemlock.
Law enforcement uses infrared to figure out where things are growing. Oh yeah. Like to find pot in a corn field because it has a different infrared. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, I didn't know if they find this by satellite. So, if he some
Do you need us to vote on this? I think just um what is it to to accept the emergency certification ratified? Yeah, for the record. Yep. Look for a motion. I make a motion to ratify the emergency
certification. I'll second the motion. And any second? All those in favor? I unanimous vote in service for the jump right. Next item on the agenda is
MDAR notification of confirmed spawning spotted lantern fly in fell. Yeah, the MDAR, she's been contacting me a lot lately. Um, and I did forward off her email to you guys, but this is
officially on the record. We have spotted lantern fly here in Southwick. Um, there's going to be surveyors if that if they haven't already been around Southwick, there will be surveyors just to try to see um the extent
of their population. Um, I have some educational materials in my office and down in the clerk's office if anybody needs them. We have little ID cards, just little like posters and stuff. Um, does anyone familiar with this insect? Yeah, I've seen it. You You seen it? Where?
Well, not in pictures. Oh, okay. Where was it? Yeah. Where it was found? I don't know where it looks. Kind of like the stink bugs with the big fat body and the skinny legs coming out. You know, same size. It's got little dots on its abdomen on the back.
Pretty. It's easy to identify. It's an album cover. Um the issue with these insects is they're sap suckers and they come in masses. They like um
fruit trees and grapes. So for for our farmers out there who've got, you know, agriculture. They attack corn, too. Sure. There's juice inside the corn. Sure.
They also excrete um honeydew, which gets things sticky and gross, which can make a mold. The honeydew actually build up on like native plants underneath the um the invasion of insects and it could make the plant that has the honeydew on
the leaves actually suffer, possibly die. we can't syn synthesize correctly. Did MDAR make any suggestions as to what to do next? Um, so I did have the MAR had a whole bunch of information up on their website as far as public education.
I had uh Ken with Channel 15 put on a few videos. So that um is airing right now, I think up until the end of October. Um there are a couple of traps that you can put on your trees. They're not super effective, but it's
something. Yeah. Um if the ma if the numbers get unbearably bad, well, you just had an experience in mudlo. Um she was at a family picnic and it just
right. Family picnic reunion. It just kind of ruined things. No kidding. The numbers almost similar to like the cicas. They come out in masses. So, if it gets to that point, bring out your vacuum cleaner, vacuum them up, let them die in the vacuum for a couple like
leave them in the vacuum for a couple of days to let them die, and then clean out your vacuum, make sure there are no egg sacks. And another thing that you can, anybody can be doing now is looking for those egg sacks. They will be on any surface, on a lawn chair, on a tire.
They're not picky. They're not peaky at all. This is why they are invasive. They're not picky. They're not strong flyers, but they're really good at hopping and they like hitchhiking onto trains, onto cars. So, that's how they're spreading.
And they're here. Wow. I don't want to miss you saying they won't bite you. Be hard though if unless you got a long extension cord to bring your vacuum on to Yes. get a cordless status. I heard I heard I heard their first jump is their their
longest jump and after that they get tired. So if you try to kill them and they jump away, try to kill them again. Kill them first and then identify and report to MDR. Don't let them Don't let them kill first. Yeah, because they're really easy to
identify. Um so there's a phone number they can call health maybe or questions. It's a board of health issue. Okay. Um but there is like just contact MDR Massachusetts thing. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay.
Yep. Massachusetts. Um Yep. Okay. That happened. That happened. Knew it knew it was coming. Next item under new business, discussion of fall planting plan for North Pond Conservation Area.
Unfortunately, Kevin's not here. He's leading that particular charge. Yeah, that's right. Um, but you did get the square footage. Yes, I got the finger the dimensions of what we want to cover.
So, we just have to determine how many how far apart we want to put the trees and the plantings and we can figure out how many we need each. Yeah. So, didn't stay in the minutes that we we officially decided on a date. I don't
you guys said uh do it was the 20th. Let me just double the 25th of October. Yeah. And then you also mentioned the 1st of November. And we have one more meeting before
that, right? October 20th. 20th. Yeah. Okay. October 20th meeting. Okay. Yeah, I had October 25th, November 1st as the two weekends. Yeah. In my notes. Okay.
Planning on those dates. I will get with Kevin to work out the details. Uh you'll have to order the plants. We got a couple of issues. You know, I want to ask Kevin if you think an augur would expedite the process and be
beneficial. A hand auger. a handoger power. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Particularly on the second one because we'll cover more distance on a second
planting day. And uh I'm working on a way to get water to the site. I have a couple ideas in mind there and I'll work that one. I'll get with Kevin and work out the details and we'll finalize them at our next meeting. Okay. Don't say goodbye.
Anybody else got anything on that? All right. Talking about what you're going to put in there. White pine, mountain laoro, oaks. Yeah, whatever. Could be. And he was going to donate some of the top soil. Yeah. Top. Yeah.
That's a good deal. Okay. So, that moves us on to all business. Holiday tree. Oh, the holiday tree. Yes. We need to discuss that a little earlier this year. Yeah, we did last year. Our ducks in a row.
Okay. Discussion of the holiday tree for the winter forest and craft fair 2025. Participants and theme. Do we have the ornaments from last year still? We do. Yep. We have them. We throw them out this time. Nope, we didn't throw them out.
They're up in my office labeled and a tote says holiday decorations or something like that. Oh, so we have them. I guess who would like to participate? I'm assuming that the donation fee is $150. I'm assuming I haven't double I haven't
been able to double check on the website because it website's not updating yet. I think they're still recovering from the big yes. [Music] I will be a participant.
I think I'll reliable supply lights. We might actually have some lights. I think I think the lights were on last year I took home. Okay. I don't think they're in the the regular ornaments. Okay. You would put my name down there for a
donor. A donor only. Got it. I also I'll also donate. Yeah, I will donate. I'll donate something for sure. What have you done? We want Do we have a date yet for decoration?
Check this, right? Just me. So, if we use the ornaments in the news last year, we don't have really a theme then, right? No. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to do a theme. I was just trying to brainstorm. We have time now to think
about it. You could collect the lantern flies. All the invasive stuff. Lantern flies, frogs, reef frogs. That's another thing. Japanese dangerous Indian.
[Music] I don't know. Nothing's been updated. So, um, did you say yes for this? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, everyone here is for it? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I would say coming up, too. He he volunteered for
double since he's not here, right? And we all agreed. Well, Chris isn't here either, right? He's driving. Let's put him under the bus. Didn't even get his name on the table for anything. Okay. I'm going to try to see if I can
get more answers as to the days and how much um for next next meeting. It was a little confusing last year. It was. No. Okay. I I was I was a little occupied last year, but this year I have more time to Now moving on to a little bit
acknowledging a $5,000 donation from an anonymous donor purpose of plantings at the North Pole Conservation Area. just to highlight uh what happened at the select board meeting. It was tabled. We donorly,
you know, would like to put some restrictions on donation. So, slight delay there, but we should acknowledge uh that we're receiving that donation. Okay, we're still on. We're still on. Okay, good to know.
Okay. Uh Next item was discussion talk with John got it at about 7 South Longard Road erosion issue. I did send him an email this afternoon.
I'm not sure if he we did review the plan with the select board the other night. Um but I don't know if he's far enough along that he can do an NOI for the October 20th or not. No. No. He's he is past that deadline
for submission. Yeah. Yep. Um the owner of the property did contact um Mass D again. So Mark had asked me, you
know, what's going on? And also, is there something that we can do right now to sort of mitigate the erosion that's happening out there? So I spoke with John last week. This was late last week and he was going to go out just to see if he missed something and um if he can
come up with a temporary solution to prevent any more sediment in there. I don't have um an answer from him yet on that. So let's let's ask John to come on down to the next meeting.
You can give us an update before then. That's fine. Okay, next item is the discussion of the open space committee. So I have to ask a question, two questions here. Do we have Martha Kaine here?
Do we have do we have Phil Price? Will both please come up to the table and join us. Both Martha and Phil have submitted their names to the open space committee. I am familiar with Marca, but I'm not familiar with Phil.
Hi. First of all, thank you very much. I haven't done anything yet, but just being here. It's a good start. Now, online, we have Connor Flurry. He is currently the only member of the Open Space Committee,
but we welcome you. Your name will appear before the select board on October 20th. That's their next meeting. Then we can start proceeding after that. Are they going to ask them to do an interview? Do they need to be present?
Uh that might they probably will do that. Yeah, if you can be present for that meeting. Um they're meeting six o'clock. And And what date? October 20th. And that would be in the land use hearing room up upstairs.
Stairs. Yeah, the big one upstairs. So maybe you could each take a minute and tell us a little bit about yourself and your interests. Um I've lived in South for about 5 years. Prior to that I lived in North Graby for 13 years. So I've been in the
area since about 2002. We had a 5-year intermission there and then we went to Delaware for my wife's work. But when we came back from Delaware after living in Graanby for 13 years, we settled here in Southwick. Um I'm outdoorsy. I like, you know, I've been to probably most of the
places around here, you know, that are hiking or outdoors, those kinds of things. Um, I live on North Lumis Street. I'm going to guess a number of you used to know Seth Kellogg. Yes. Um, so we bought the property that is
behind the old Kellogg Brothers concrete back across the bridge. And then when Seth passed, we were able to purchase that piece of land back there. So, you've got a decent chunk of land back there as well that we're interested in maintaining and doing something positive with.
Fantastic. Did you hear that, Monica? Well, I've only been here for three years. Oh, I thought I was the new kid. Good. I'm glad to hear. I grew up in Westview and did most of my career in environmental education and
park management in North Carolina. Wow. And so I was in North Carolina for 42 years. My siblings and the rest of my family are are all here in Westfield and cousins in Ammerst. Um so after I retired um and then in
North Carolina, the environmental rules are not as stringent as here. So, um, 350 acres of farm and and field was leveled to the ground around my little house outside of Raleigh, North
Carolina. And I started getting flooding in my backyard. So, I had already retired and I was doing a lot of volunteer work in the parks, uh, City of Raleigh Parks and Recreation that I also worked for. um and just decided, you
know, I think it's time to go back home a little sooner than I had planned. So, um in 2022, I moved back to the area. Um uh again, my siblings are in Westfield,
but I wanted a more rural home. So, I'm on South Lewis Street, so not too far from I only have an acre and a half. I don't have much uh I do a lot of volunteer work for the Graanby Land Trust in
Graanby, Connecticut because I'm only one mile from Dismal Brook. So if you see bird boxes out there, I'm the one who does the bird box monitoring and takes care of the bluebirds and the tree swallows and tries to chase off the bears.
But um but my career again was in environmental education and uh I worked for the state fish and wildlife agency in North Carolina for about nine years and was the director of one of their wildlife education centers and then when I retired just before I retired eight
years before I retired I worked for the city of Raleigh managing their first nature preserve which was so much fun. So yeah. So um yeah, and but I started out as a wildlife biologist. It was just that there weren't a lot of jobs in the
1970s. Uh when I graduated with my undergraduate degree here in Massachusetts, there really weren't opportunities for women except in the office and I didn't want that. So um I kind of veered off into environmental education. But now that I'm retired, I really love being outside
doing bird counts. I do bird walks at Stanley Park, you know, as a volunteer there. But I love doing bird counts to to help managers get an idea of what's happening in their in their on their preserve or on their park. Birds are the canaries in the coal mine, as you know.
And so I I like to do a lot of outdoor work and less education other than leading bird walks and teaching people how to use EIRD and Merlin and Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of a bird nerd. So, but I love all wildlife, you know. So,
yeah, that's all you have. There are dilapitated bird houses on the mountain. So, they were built by the Boy Scouts. Am I Yeah. Yeah. years ago. That happens a lot. People put up and
usually it's scouts for an Eagle Scout project. they'll put up a whole series of bird boxes and then nobody monitors them. So, we don't know if there are house sparrows that have taken over those boxes, you know, or um if there's not the right predator guard on them.
They're going to have raccoons climbing and then mice, of course, getting in and things like that. So, they really have to be monitored. You know, if if you're not monitoring them, I would say take them down. You know, they're just a hazard to the birds. You're refilled.
Okay. That's right. You be the advisor on that and we'll get back out. We had some big ones too up in the tree where the Yeah, they're just falling apart. Okay. A couple of them. Maybe they were owl boxes or something. Maybe perhaps if they were big up in a
tree. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz usually you wouldn't put a birdhouse on a tree. I think Seth Kellogg gets told to do it all that too. He was president of the Alenberg Club. Oh, okay. Yeah. Big time interprets. I'm a member of Allenberg, but I haven't
been out doing any of their Seth passed away a few years ago. He was on the conservation committ. He was on this committee longer than anybody. He president of Allen Bird Club. You do the Christmas bird down every year. Oh, yeah. Good to have you.
I think there's also some birds birdhouses on Goose Pond out in the duck blind there. I remember seeing some out there a few years ago. Wood duck boxes maybe there. Wood out the ground. Yeah, it but by the pond or
by nobody really goes around boost pond too much. There's there's hard can't really access is not there. Easy to get to now. It's kind of all overgrown and stuff. Private property part of it to get to the floating too. So you could just go right
through this. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to have somebody go out with you in case you disappear where it is? Okay. I wrote it down so I can You can sort of get to it from the real trail. Sort of. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well,
you have to walk on the I would say you would have to walk on um on the farm. Yeah. Over there. That's the safest way to do it. over by the solar field to freeze swampy arm by the by the bike trap. We used to ski out there and ski across it when it
froze. But yeah, sometimes you have to wait till things freeze. That's what we had to do at Dismal Brook. Wait till it all froze over. Oh, yeah. Before we could get out and check the boxes. It's just Well, you guys sound really qualified. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much.
I think she impressing both of you. appreciate the fact that you signed up and you're interested. That's great. Thank you. That's great. Bonner, do you have anything to say? You got partners now.
I think he's trying to figure out how to unmute himself. I'm still muted. He's looking for those buttons. So, might be on the your lower left hand corner of this screen, maybe. I've never used mine.
Oh, what do we have on the agenda that would help these folks get started with something? Just the constant monitoring. You can ask to unmute. There you go. Oh, once they get sworn and everything, we'll talk to Connor and, you know, give them our priority,
right? Look at the open space plan, see what's in trouble. get sworn in. So as a volunteer, do you have to do like the ethics training? Oh, it's fine. Okay, I see how this is done before.
City of Raleigh, you know, even to step on a step stool, you had to take ladder safety training just to even use a step stool. I mean, they were that ligamentously concerned. So, yeah, I'm pro probably had something like that. Nice. It's you do it online.
I think the biggest issue is that we forget and then we get notified by the cler. Oh, for sure. You haven't done your training. You didn't do training. Like, yes, I did. We did. Oh, it's been two years. Okay. So, yeah. Go to the select board meeting, get you sworn in, and we'll do
whatever we can to work with you. Get up and running. Great. Conor's unmuted now. Get the ground running, though. You guys are post perfect with it. You want to do something or you got my email this morning? Honor, are you online now? Yeah. Yeah. 10:00 to meet with you.
Honor. Is he speaking? Still no sound. It was clearing. I don't know what. Okay. He's He's frustrated. Get the look on his face. Well, all right. Well, very good. So
very very thankful that you signed up. That's great. And see where we go from here. Great. Seeing you soon. All right. Thank you so much. And if you're if you haven't been on North Pond and would love to have a guest, I'll be glad to walk you through North Pond.
Really great. I I've read enough of those articles in the paper. My brother saves the Westfield News and has the Southwood news for me and I read those things and go, "Oh my gosh, it's really not as bad as it seems." Yeah. Yeah. Well, part of the problem,
uh, when I work for City of Raleigh, the Raleigh police, you know, the minute I'd call them, they'd be right there if I had any problems with my property. So, but I know here in South, we don't have as many, you know, police officers. They're stretched pretty thin. They are stretched very thin. You know,
South is a big place, so I can see where I talked to some of my siblings. Oh, yeah. When we were young, we went out there all the time. We went on a boat. We had a party on the beach. And I'm like, oh, no. [Music] Well, very good. Thank you both again.
All right. Thank you. Of course. Well, that was good news, huh? Yeah. It's awesome. Okay, we're going to keep the item on the Southwood bylaw change. Uh, keep
that on the table. 451 Lake View Drive. That's the retaining wall. I did vote by there today. There's no rip wrap that's been installed. So, that's a good pen. I still have not heard anything back from our attorney on on uh his letter that he
was going to send to the self a selffield. dead tree on North Pond. That was on the select board agenda. Um they were going to ask us they have asked us to pay for it ourselves. I told
them they they said use land use and I told them we didn't have enough money in land use. Oh, I know. Oh, they said that. That's I told them. Yeah. Go to the finance committee and ask them for money again. I know Nicole Parker stood up and said, "I will work with for
Sabrina and we'll find the money." Yeah. So, we do have that conservation trust fund when he's been sitting there for a couple decades now that we've spent. Yeah. And I So, we did use that money um
last year for sort of the legal work for 13 Bergkshire Avenue, right? Um there's still around $8,000 in that um account. I think the only hold up is that we're trying to figure out
if there's any description on what we can actually spend that money on. That's been the hold up all these years. No, it it's how they interpret it, you know, for conservation purposes is is a wide broad interpretation. So,
yeah, see what you can do. Okay, got the money, you might as well use it. I know it needs to be used. It's just otherwise it goes away. I hate to start precedent where we're going to pay for people to have their trees taken down because it's captain
too much shade on the roof or too many nuts are coming down, but I think it's just this special occasion because of what it is, right? Not set any precedence. And the house is very close to the conservation property. What they can do is to free up that the
money for that. We'll try. We'll try. Um should we vote to use those funds? Sure. For conservation trust money and that way we at least have the vote
if if for whatever reason they say we can't then the vote doesn't count. Well, at least we would have the vote and I could let accounting know that you're normally looking for a motion. That would be good. A motion. Make a motion. to fund the North Pond tree removal out
of the conservation fund conservation trust trust fund. Okay, that's the label of it. This particular tree, not all trees, right? Otherwise, like it says,
a precedent. We have a second on that motion. Second made the second roll call vote. Andy I norm. Unanimous vote. Um and an RDA was submitted
through the conservation commission be on the October 20th meeting and Steve um building and they realize that we can't review our own we can't submit a RDA and review it ourselves, right? Yeah. There needs to be two parties to
this. like we're the reviewers. Someone else needs to submit application, right? So, that's happening. And I I guess I have to get some more quotes, too. That's what's like we're asking. Unless if they're paying for it, then we can
just still have to go quotes. So, it's the 5,000 was steep. They did. Well, it's we're bringing in a crane. Yeah, I understand. Yep. But they did say that taking the whole tree down might be cheaper than
taking half a tree down. Technically, it's more work because it's an extra cut. Um, but I don't think the price difference would be that much. Uh, but yeah, put a cable punch it real hard and come
down. Um, I did ask I know Ryan already left. Um, well, I asked Ryan even because he's the one that um submitted that quote to us for $5,000. And I was like, what what will it be if we just took the entire
tree down, leaving the stump, of course, and he's like, it's not really that much for for him. It's one extra cut and like four extra minutes. Yeah. So, let's try and keep the habitat. Well, that's what I wanted the snad. No,
they wanted to top it and then leave what they cut on the ground. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, and um with that, we did get permission um from the Division of Fisheries and Wildlife to do that work
um and we officially got it here. So, in writing in writing. Okay. Next item. report from the Sfield Conservation Commission meetings. If you remember correctly at our last meeting, I told you I had I went to their meeting
on 570 and Allen Forest Road. Uh Keith Morris had given him sheet two of the plan. So I I made three trips to visit him to look at sheets one and three. He is sick, so I hope he's okay.
Uh, and in my third trip, the someone in the building department let me look at the and uh, I did notice that there's no silk fence on the plan, but that could be because they just using the silk fences up from when they demolished the
house, but I did ask Keith in an email to answer that. And there was nothing else u from the silt the current silt fence to the lake. There's nothing else on the plan for disruption, but just I went out on my boat today and
the S fence that I I reported last time was down is still down. Okay. So, I sent another email with a picture to Keith today and asked him the police resolve that issue and asked report from Suff.
Thank you. Update on North Pond conservation responsibilities for Concom. Just the highlight there is all of the new signs have been installed. Yes, DPW was a big help and four four members from DPW were
there. They're all installed all the sides. All installed. Yeah. And I and I went out this weekend and they lasted a week without any damage. That's good. That's good.
Okay. Uh, last item on the normal agenda, review of open conservation projects and discussion of assignments. Uh, the only thing there would have been further discussion of North Pond planting project. Um, so we'll call that one
closed for now. Conservation coordinator, any report? I do have um a couple of things. So, um, the no ATV sign for the Sulenowski property, that is up. I put that up today. Excellent. Yeah. So, all signs are up
finally. Um, and then also, and this is probably a question for Dennis, um, we had a report of possible, um, wetland violation over at the motocross and Norm and I, we went out there and
saw that there was um, some excavating being done. I sent out a letter to both the um American Legion and who I thought was in charge of the motocross, which happened to be the guy's father, Keith
Johnson, is in charge of motocross, called me this morning, and he mentioned or he said that he he picked up the the track around 12 years ago and they're always they always have had issues with um sediment getting into their retention
plans. Um and so what he's been doing um on an as needed basis is he's been going in and cleaning out the sediment out of those retention funds. And so that's essentially what we saw
uh last week was okay we need to check because it was back I guess when Stevie Giraff used to do the maintenance over there and they did actually go into wetland areas that the D got involved with. We mentioned that. Yeah.
And there was a consent agreement that partner was cleaning out those detention areas from in writing someplace. I haven't I don't see it on any of our files. D see if they've got anything. Yes, it would. We had gone out there a couple
of times, Jim Miles and I and dug into it and found out that the D already had some kind of agreement with them. Okay. So, so I can check with that. I also um I wanted to set up a site visit on the
property with Keith and a couple people from the concom so we all are on the same page and I was getting you didn't push out any further. Yeah. So we could have a good set of eyes. It was kind of like eye opening to see it firsthand um the other day with Nor. I don't I don't go to the track.
What was it called? Purtle pond or frog pond that they used to go right through. Keith did mention that they used to go through well. Um, so could I have a few dates that you guys can um come for a site visit so I
could try to set that up with Keith? Yeah. Want to do on a weekday or weekends? Um, it's kind of busy over there on the weekends. Okay, good. Yeah, I'm usually not in town for the weekend anyways.
I'm going to be gone from Stop it. I am nine or nine. Yeah, today's right. And so 9th till probably the past the 20th 24 25
something like that and then I'll be back and I'll be around 10. So okay. And Keith Keith is a couple hours away but he said he could try he could make it work. So that's why I said just give me a few dates that you guys can make it
and then we'll set it up via email and that's at the motocross. Yep. Motocross. Let me know. I'll be there. So Norm isn't okay at any time. Yep. Almost. Yeah. I'll go with almost anything.
Yeah. Same here. Later next week. During the week. Yeah. ter stretch from the 14th on. Okay. I'm cooked. I'm cooked this week. But that's a good idea to kind of get it. So, are all on the same
14 15 16 any any like an afternoons? Morning. Yes. Afternoon, mornings. Afternoons are great. easy for me to sit like around my
Well, yeah, but I mean it really doesn't doesn't matter that much. Okay, you set. Yes. All right. Anybody else got anything they want to bring out? We got Looks like you did a lot of nice work on the LP here. Or is anything else? Anything else to add on like
what's been going on? Um, Ellen and I, there's been a lot of stuff going back and forth that I've been reading. Yeah. So, Ellen and I, we decided maybe we should have some sort of annual schedule for the local permitting program so we're all on the same page and so we kind of follow schedule and
we're not just kind of like, oh, it's September and we haven't done anything for, you know, enforcement. Um, so we wrote down some ideas of what the the annual um study, yep, what the annual timeline should look like there. I mean,
came in on the be at the last I think, right? There was some pretty good suggestions and I think LMC's going to be involved in making their own decisions as well. I know the online chatter from them was very pleased. Good. Y
So, anything to make it better is good. Yeah. or more understandable. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, we're working on it. I mean, it's not perfect, but we've just wanted to give you a kudos for doing that. Thank you.
It's good having Ellen around. Anything else from anybody hearing? None. And it is now 8:28 and I will motion to approve. Make a motion to I made a motion.
He's already there. We second it. I'll second motion. Okay. Roll call. Andy I Dennis I norm. Unanimous vote. The meeting now is over. All this time.