All right, >> it's now 7 o'clock. We'll call Conservation Commission meeting to order August 18th, 700 p.m. It's a combination hybrid meeting,
Zoom, and in person. And we'll start by taking attendance starting with Andy, >> Andy Griffin, >> Dennis Clark, >> Norm Chver, Jerry Patri, Kevin Solid. >> Okay, so we do have a forum.
So we'll ask for public comments. Is there anybody in the audience would like to make any public comments >> concerning tonight's meeting in on any part? >> If it's on the agenda, we'll get to it. You can speak then. Okay, >> that's fine.
>> I don't know the protocols. That's why I asked. >> That's fine. We'll hear. You got anybody online that might like to speak? >> I don't want to speak. >> Okay. So, we'll move forward then to
the minutes. We have our professionally done minutes by Renee. Thank you very much, Renee. A pleasure having having these done. We did If you haven't looked at them, please look at them now and we'll try to
approve them. You guys haven't signed in already. Um, there's a sign in sheet right there. Kevin does the hang. We were talking this whole thing talking about the mowing. I think you were talking about taking money out of that account from from mowing the area, not for haying,
which is what Kevin >> No, we were talking about from Yeah. >> Kevin's family does. Yeah. >> Right. >> It went it went the conversation went from mowing to hay. >> Yeah. 2,000 times to keep up in the future.
>> You had an account for Hayingfield, right? Put money in that account. So, >> you're looking for moving the head. >> Yeah. >> Marvelous. So wonderfully formatted in neatly.
Their handwriting is impeccable. >> Anybody see any changes they'd like to make? >> Hearing none. I'll take a motion. >> Make a motion to accept the minutes. I'll set them up. Okay. So, Andy made the motion and m made the second
and let's take a roll call vote. >> Andy, I norm. >> Jerry, I >> unanimous vote. Thank you. Next item on the agenda agenda is a public hearing.
Read the call for the meeting. The Southland Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing under the Massachusetts Wetland Protection Act GLC 31 131 section 40 and the South Conservation Commission regulations and
bylaw chapter 182 and chapter 450 for notice of intent via hybrid meeting Zoom and in person. The project location is two Fenton Drive Southwest Mass 15 parcel 16. The applicant proposes the
construction of a 24x 24 ft garage which is located within the buffet vanity bank of an intermittent stream. The meeting will be held August 18th at 7:05 p.m. >> Okay. Hello everyone. Ryan Nelson from
Arloc Associates. For the record, joined tonight by the property owner, Mr. Paxton behind us. Um, this uh project came to us last year, maybe a little longer. Uh,
Mr. Paxton was looking to construct a a garage on this property. Um and in the meantime prior to today he had gained a carried a variance from the ZBA um in order to put the garage where we're
showing it. The property is on is an existing non-conforming property in terms of setbacks. Just show you on the plan here. We have two ephemeral intermittent streams on
the property. They actually come down through Mr. Paxton's yard. Um, we have one here. So, this would be uh, sorry, Hamh Hill Road, Fenton Drive right here. Property slopes up. So, we have a stream that comes down through the yard along the edge of the woods and it actually
drains and empties surface sheet flows right to a catch basin, the top of the the grate in the road. And then same thing for this stream on the other side of the house. It's actually uh goes through, you know, the the mode of grass part of the yard and then same thing empties into a catch basin by the curb.
Um so the majority of the property, especially the house and the all the existing site improvements are already within the existing 50 foot buffers in um currently the house has a onecar drive underneath garage located right
here and Mr. Paxton's looking for some additional storage and there's really not a good place to get cars out of the weather at the property. So, he's proposing a 24x 24 ft garage located right here. Um, we do realize it it is close to the
stream, but I think um if commission members haven't done a site visit already, uh it would be very beneficial to see it. It's very much so just an ephemeral kind of storm water runoff stream. Um, the
garage will utilize access from the existing driveway. We did look at the alternative of putting the garage as an extension of the house um, which would shift away from the stream, but then uh, access to the garage. We would have to extend the pavement around the front uh,
so that you could drive and make enough room to turn into the garage. So, it actually would be like doubling the impervious area under that layout. Um, and it also would eliminate access from the rear of the property or to the rear of the property by putting
the garage there. Um, right now we're showing a clearance between a remodified retaining wall and the edge of the garage so that he can still get his lawn mower up into the backyard. Um, so we're showing a concrete walkway from the
existing house to the garage. This could be an overhang off the edge of the garage. We're showing roof gutter down spouts being collected to a stone grip wrap spike pad down here. Um we'd have a temporary stockpile area for soil or
building materials located here. And um reconstructing an existing retaining wall at that front face of the house. So really in terms of work, it's pretty simple, but I know proximity is probably the commission's greatest concern. So
happy to answer any questions you may have. Okay. >> You mentioned a rip wrap wall on our side of the stream. >> Uh there would be a block retaining wall of this side of the house with a return here because this is going to slope up
into the backyard. >> And then we have a rip wrap uh flared end outlet for that roof uh drainage pipe right here. Do you envision getting wet between the far end of that new garage and where the stream is when it
does become active? >> Um I I don't think there would be any conflict there. It it's very subtle. I mean the channel is only a few inches deep. >> Is it like in a type of thing? >> Not really. It's more so like if you
ever seen in woods where it's just enough to kind of scour the leaves and and move them aside. It goes on the surface basically, >> right? Correct. >> So, the one on the other side has more water on it, too. >> Uh, I would say uh Mr. Fra, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but the stream
on the side of your house with the deck is more flowing this way. >> That one flows a lot, >> right? >> You've been out there a couple of times and sometimes you wouldn't even know there was a stream there. And sometimes
you can't believe how much water is coming through there. >> Right. Right. >> And I did um chase the stream uphill offsite. Um did not find any other wetlands it's connected to. So I believe it's an upgrading intermittent stream which under the state regulations not
protected but under bylaw would be >> you and I walked that. >> We did. >> Very much looked just like for like grass forest floor. It wasn't even like a roaded. >> Yeah. That was about three years ago. Three years. Oh yeah. Yep.
>> Those is filed under just local bylaw or >> uh no under both >> both. >> Yep. Mass DP as well. There is a a small buffer sorry BVW adjacent there that parts buffer zone. So >> the gutters from both sides of the roof go down into that.
>> Yes. Yes. Both both. Uh correct. Both slopes of that roof would discharge to here >> and that would ultimately connect back to the stream and to the catch basin. >> Right. It's basically what it's doing now. >> Correct. >> Anyways, because it all soaps in there. >> Yeah.
>> Is it sandy soil out there like it is, you know, >> um I haven't done any soil borings out there, but you guys just had your septic red down. >> It's extremely sandy. It's all sand. That's all it is.
>> Yep. Okay. Familiar with that. It'll drain pretty well. seemed as though the garage floor was going to be a couple feet below stream. That's what I was looking at. >> Oh yeah, >> quite a bit. >> If the garage floor is at 274, streams
at 272 at this high point. >> So, there'd be a pretty good separation. >> Yes, >> that was the feeling I got when I was out there like some elevation between the two. Any
any feedback from the butters? Okay. >> I don't know if my name is James Allen. I live next door. I've lived there for 30 40 years. Where does he want to put that garage? I don't care how high the water gets. The water ain't ever going to touch that
foundation of that garage cuz all the water's going to come over onto my driveway. I'm just telling you, it ain't never happened in 34 years. So, uh, I just don't see any water being a problem here. I mean, I know it's in very important to protect our waterways, but
I don't see how this garage being built is going to affect human water one way or another, more or less downstream or upstream of where he's building. And like Andy said, you go out there and look, you it's got to rain for three
weeks before you see any water in it. There ain't been no water in that thing since May. maybe the first of May. We have a pretty wet spring. >> There's no objections from the butters. I take it. >> I ain't going to no objections for me. I
just don't I find it odd that we're here to be honest. I understand that there are >> I appreciate appreciate that he did come down here and we were very thankful that he filed like that because >> you're probably correct. You know, but some instances not like that.
>> That's right. God's father look at all the I understand appreciate you filing very much. >> Yeah. >> I've spoken directly with m to the burgers and they are on board. I do
believe they they spoke with the uh unzing board. That's all. >> Yep. That was secured last year and I believe you know >> I was surprised to find that it's called an internet waterway. All my life it was a ditch. >> Yeah.
Internet waterway and I understand you know there you wouldn't want affected a ditch that might affect somebody downstream or upstream of you but this isn't going to have any effect on anybody. >> Well normally if you just looked at the plan you'd say oh my god there's no way on earth they can do that.
>> But that's why that's why we're here. So some common sense can fall into >> good that you actually went out there and like you said you walked out there and you know that other little stream had some more water in it. I don't not sure where the water comes from. It's probably just a >> we never figured that out.
>> It ain't now there. I'm sure there's none there now. It only happens when after a rain it's a most sensible location on the live. It's a small lie and um uh it's the least
intrusive and we've always been good stewards of our property and our history. We have no intention to pollute it or change it or how many infections you get. I'm sure
that when the houses were being built, if we would have known four years ago that we was going to be here, they would just move the ditch over about five or 10 ft towards me. It wouldn't make no difference, you know. So,
and this from the D comments from the state, he only said one thing. He says the proposed garage is is very close to the streaming stream bank commission has the ability to require a better setback. Other than that, he had no objections.
>> Yeah, Brian already ruled out that option at start with. >> Yeah, maybe it wasn't apparent. Um maybe not properly labeled on the plan, but this stream would not be regulated under the state rags. So, it's really your guys jurisdiction as to what you think
is appropriate. Yeah, it doesn't seem like much of a stream. It's not. >> I don't see a problem. >> It's a glorified ditch, >> right? You can't float up even a toy boat down. There might be two inches of water in there back last May when we had a lot of rain. There might have been two
inches flowing down there, but it was no more than that wide by the time >> and three of us were there three years ago. It was dried into soaked right in. Well, like I said, we appreciate you coming in and violating it. You did the right thing and thank you very much for
doing that. Getting our people that know what they're doing because >> Ryan delineated it so we know exactly where it is and then I don't have any more questions. >> Any other questions for anybody? >> Hearing none, I'll take a motion. >> I'll move for a negative determination.
>> We're going to close it first. >> Close it first. Sorry. >> This is an animal. So, it's not a negative. decision. >> What are we calling that on? >> I thought that's we approve it. Just the RDA is >> the RDA is corrected.
>> So, we have a motion to close the hearing. Do we have a second? >> Second. Metab vote on closing the hearing. >> Andy I normous vote here.
You want to make a motion to approve? >> I'll make a motion to approve it. >> With conditions or how do you want to do that, Jerry? >> Normally on an NOI, we do have conditions. >> There's the boiler plate conditions that we have for the >> for the state to go on all of them that
they have to have, you know, fences up and stuff like that. >> The only one that's that we do locally is the bond. Do you want a bond on this? >> A 10k bond. >> It's up to the commission. That's what we typically do. Uh we want to impose that.
>> Yeah. >> So equal. >> So we made a motion to approve it with standard standard order of conditions including a 10K bond. Okay. And uh any delimination necessary? >> Probably not.
>> Not so in this case. >> All right. Usually the only thing only would be to Mr. in his driveway on the other side of the garage. >> Yeah, that's 50 ft away. Right. >> Yeah. >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Second the motion.
>> Andy makes the second. Any further discussion? >> Yeah. Um I didn't see on the plan where the fences are going to be put in. >> The stream obviously in in the garage here. >> Okay. Great.
>> Good question. Right. >> Okay. Vote. Roll call. Vote. >> Andy, I unanimous vote. >> Okay. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it. >> Good evening. Thanks. >> Thanks for coming in. >> Yep.
>> Thank you. >> Good luck with your project. [Music] university changed my w since I retired I haven't broken any she like all the horse doing well how's your
daughter >> my daughter's doing good >> this time she's already went to MIT that was about 20 years ago they were testing the girls I think I was out there when they did the septic system. They never argued
that it wasn't a wetland and just happy that they finally first. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Now we'll move on to new business. First item on the new business is request for certificate of compliance
194 Billside Road 22 292-298 [Music] and vote to release $10,000 bond. >> All right. So, um I did a site inspection this afternoon at 194 Hillside Road. Um I noticed that the
grass was grown about 75% in. There were some patchy areas where the grass was thin. Um, but overall I would say 75% thrown in. Uh, the boulders have been installed. Um, but most are down slope
from the area where the fill had been put in, so they're not really noticeable in some of these areas, but they're there. Um, there's evidence of the plantings that were required in the buffer zone. Um however natural
vegetation has grown significantly with a good variety of native species such as oak trees, red maples, stagboard, sumac, white pine, joe pyweed, golden rod and zone set. Um I have the receipts of the plants that they purchased and planted
and they equal the same amount that was in the also very little invasive species at present. Um I just saw one Japanese barberry. Uh there is a shed installed at the rear of the property between the 50 foot and the 100 foot buffer. This was not on the
plan. Thank you. Uh the applicant has also installed filter fabric and laid some stones on the northern slope of the property between the 50 and 100 ft buffer to prevent erosion. This is not on the plan. Um, the buyer retention
area at the property currently has cattails in there, but it doesn't h doesn't appear to have any of the suggested species that was on the plan that was approved. I'm waiting to hear back from Arbec for a certified letter sub uh stating substantial compliance
and I suggest that this is tabled until the next meeting when I get that letter. I guess my my main concern is that bio retention basin. I just want to make sure that it's functioning properly. the the applicant said that um even during
the heaviest of rainfalls it does not fill up all the way and the water flows well but um I was if it's a bio retention I would think that there would be a little more variety of plants in there so I just
wanted to hear what Lec had said and Ryan I think might be going out there tomorrow um a site visit >> sounds Good. Any questions? >> I have photos too if you want. >> Look for a motion.
>> Yes. >> Motion to table. >> A motion to table by Dennis. We have a second. >> Kevin is seconded. Roll call. >> Andy said I Dennis. >> I Jerry I.
>> Unanimous vote to table. Very good. Next item is update on 401 water quality certificate for Noble Steed Crossing 2920280 17-39 Winding Hill Road.
>> I reached out to Jesse Salt Marsh to see what the um progress was for the 401 water quality and he responded to this email. He said the National um Habitat for Endangered Species signed off on it. um they got a letter back from them. So
they're just waiting for the Army Corps of Engineers to respond back with their approval and then they'll get the final filing from D. So there has been movement on that. >> Okay. We don't have to take any action on that at this time.
>> Nope. It's just a waiting game. >> Okay. Let's move to old business. Request for certific certificate of compliance 55 Foster Road 292-0421 and vote to release the $20,000 bond.
>> Okay. Um I went out there this afternoon. Grass has grown in again about 75%. There were some patchy areas where the grass has thin, but overall looks good. Um boulders have been installed. Signs are installed. Plantings are in. um
instead of having the plantings though only at the rear portion of the limit of work, he kind of surrounded them. So the the rear and the northern part of the limit of work, no plantings between the the neighbor. It wasn't really suggested. Um
I kind of like it that way because it kind of be buff or beefs up the entire limit of work instead of just one portion of it. Um, but that's what I observed. And some of the maple leaf viburnum appeared
unhealthy, but all of the mountain laurels that he planted looked very, very healthy. >> Okay, your suggestion. >> I suggest to issue certificate compliance. >> Does this project have like a two-year
watch the plants grow period? I don't think this one does. We usually have that for >> replication. >> Yeah, replication. >> Did this one have a special conservation restriction on it? >> Yeah. And it was recorded. Yeah. The
registry of de motion. I'm looking for any other questions. I'm looking for a motion. >> I'll make a motion to release the bond >> and >> and issue certificate of compliance. >> Okay. >> I'll second it. >> Okay. So Kevin made the motion. Jerry
made the second. >> Roll call vote. >> Andy I >> I unanimous vote. >> Next item is discussion with John Goddard about seven longard road erosion
issue. Is John online? >> John is on vacation. Oh, >> he lost the job. >> He just got the job. He's already on the way to computer. >> Um, but he did meet he did meet with me
on Friday. Gave me lots of wonderful information and details and he said he was going to write it all in an email for me so I wouldn't have to remember it all. But he didn't. He went off on vacation instead. >> Vacation. >> He like left me. Um, so I'll just sum it
up. Crescu and John went out on site to try to figure out the best course of action. There are two options. One is to extend the rip wrap further down. Um this would require um more maintenance
down the road, >> cleaning it, whatnot. More rip wrap. Yeah. The second option is to actually install pipe under and restore the area um hopefully to like its natural level. Um either way, trees are going to have
to come down. I told John, I understand that what's important is, you know, getting this storm water under control and also we'll have the opportunity of possibly replanting more resilient trees for the time to come because I I believe there's
hemlock out there and those are just getting backed by the Willy Delgate. Um he said they're looking they're crunching numbers right now and I was like that actually did you sign it? Okay. They're crunching numbers right
now to try to see if um the pipe is financially feasible. Um because him and I were talking and we sounded it sounded like that was more of the best um option. Also um Gary Yellen
he said that he used to be able to walk back there and now he can't. If this is done there's a possibility that he will be able to walk back there once again. So, um, >> in progress.
>> So, but they do have an idea of what to do. I mean, is it eventually going to be like No, they don't. >> They No, it's going to come in a YI to to us. >> Yeah, it's going to >> they're going to have like an official project description. >> The good news is that the select board has put some money aside for
>> right >> hopefully it should be enough for the planning process of it anyway to get it to us. I mean the thing in the minutes like he was talking about maybe pooling cascading kind of it's gradual. >> Yeah, >> that might work. >> That's with >> slow it down maybe.
>> I think that's his idea with the rip wrap. Um but like we said >> it's going to require maintenance and we have a hard time. The town has a hard time. >> Yeah, the hikes are better coming off and wrapping down dissipators to slow it
down. Yeah. Right. >> Yeah, that would be better. And at the end he did talk about like a section I think of like a rift rock pool where like it would help. >> So kind of an enclosed system is what they're talking about. >> Yeah, that would be better. >> Much better than more >> the other stuff will just fill up.
>> Exactly. Like you saw how much debris was out there when we were there. >> Okay. But they are going to have to bring it formal. >> Yeah. So that >> cross that bridge. >> Yeah. And I um so when I was talking to John and I I don't want to you know get
everyone excited about it but it seemed like it would be like a month or two that we would see this notice of intent. >> Yeah. >> So >> that'd be great. >> That would be great but I'm not holding my breath. >> Okie do. Okay. Thank you. >> So I would like us to have another
update at our next meeting which is to September 15. [Music] Anybody else got any comments? Leave it on with agenda 15 trash.
All right, next item. Discussion about trash collection at conservation areas. I did take I believe last time the direction from here to go to see what LMC was doing because we thought they
were doing the same same thing with >> Kevin Bishop see if he wants to do it again >> and the feedback I got is what LMC is now doing is they're doing it with their um
with their uh people that are working >> launch tenants are taking care the garbage when you're done. >> But I can give you an update on what they look like. North Pine really hasn't changed a lot. >> Uh and I haven't had to take garbage out
of there in some time. >> Are you talking about the property itself or the trash bins? >> The trash bins. Keep a look at them every time I go in. >> And it hasn't been filled up? >> No. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, I've been to uh Sophanowski
and it looked good there. I didn't have to take any trash out of there. Then to Lupinsky's, didn't have to take out any trash there. Randall Gorge, I had to take a giant bag out of there and replaced it.
>> So that sounds like the one we got to keep my eye on. >> I would I was going to suggest just take the bin out and just, you know, >> Well, see what happens.
If all that garbage in Granville Gorge that I just pulled out from the in the trash container was spilled out across the the area of the of Grand Cott. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. We've done that before. >> It'll find a play. It'll find a home if at least if you give it a place a home to come to. It's easier to pick it up. And we try taking the trash barrels out before it ends up down the >> road. So until uh
building grounds gets fully staffed again, which probably won't be this season. He says it usually shut down in September, right? Picking up the garbage. So I'll keep an eye on it. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay.
>> All right. Next item. discussion of mowing of Sophonowski community garden area when I was there picking up garbage or looking for garbage. >> I did notice that it definitely needs a mole. >> Okay,
>> great. [Music] >> Hi, Connor. How? >> How's it going? So, I was tasked with getting quotes for Stephanoski property. Um, I did get so I requested I called around
a lot. You're right. Be cool. I'm going to do that. Um, so I was supposed to get another quote in my inbox today. Never got it. I got a verbal quote from Cole's lawn care out of Enfield. Didn't seem like I really wanted the job, but
he told me $300 every mowing. Um, I do have one written quote. I called Zubers as well. Zubers said no quote. He said out of his path, which I think is weird because he's right in town. You think he would >> all the time. >> Yeah, no kidding. I don't know. But I
did get um one quote on paper from Joe Lebertie with Lakeside Outdoor Services. >> Seems like a really good guy. Seems to be all about Southwick. Y um he gave us a pretty good quote. Actually came way under to what I think we were paying
before, which was around 130. Is that correct? No, we were paying um >> 90 >> 90. >> Yeah, >> it's still under that. So, I will share that quote with you. Um >> 90. >> There's the quote. Um so, it is Chicken
Scratch. So, I kind of translated on my own notes here. Um so, he has a weekly quote of $50, bi-weekly quote of $50, and monthly he said he'll do it for free. Just all about the town. Um >> what? >> Yeah. >> It's all a quote. Yeah, he has it there.
Uh, he recommended he didn't recommend the monthly because he said it's going to get really high by then. When you cut it, it's going to be crappy. As long as you don't care what it looks like. >> For sure. Yeah. >> Yeah. He said we he said no more than bi-weekly, but he said he recommended weekly. I I kind of agree with either
weekly or bi-weekly. I think monthly is kind of waiting too long. >> Yeah. >> Um, so I don't know what you guys think, but that's what it is. >> What do you guys all think? Yeah, I know. Joe, he's a good guy. >> Yeah, he is. Yeah, it was my first time meeting him.
>> Approved vendors list for South. >> I didn't know there was an approved >> is the other side of that question. Did any of the approved vendors from Southwick respond such as the ones that do the bulk of the mulling in town? >> No, I didn't call TAC because you had
said you call Tanic already so I didn't waste my time chasing him down. I called Zuber, he got back to me. I send the address and then he just said nope. Um the other people was clean cut or something. >> They were the ones that are doing it so I didn't bother with them. Uh actually
Joe actually used to work for King Cut. Um >> Okay. >> I don't know anyone else in town besides Joe. So >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And is this um So that was a mo they call a blow.
>> Yeah. So he's going to mow it. Yeah. He's going to blow like Yeah. He's he'll blow off like anything like a parking area that drops grass. Um he'll do some weed whacking around like the >> the fence area. >> Yeah. Yeah. I told him what kind of weed whack has he felt necessary on the rocks and then he'll take a pass in the front by the street there just to keep that
down so it's not growing wild by the street. >> I know we didn't discuss that but I told him just to do it cuz I figured that's the best route instead of getting all scraggly. >> Yeah. Because there's like two signs, right? Those two signs that were installed too. You don't want them to get overgrown. >> Right. Right. Right. You don't want to
get too scrub can't see it becomes a problem or stuff like that. So >> ever source come from scams, >> right? >> Cool. >> You guys want this? >> Yeah. Thank you.
>> Appreciate. Thanks. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I'll check to see if they're on if he's on the vendor list and if not, I'll get him on the vendor list. >> Okay. Yeah. I was contacting Phil might be on there too if you need me to get a hold of him. We're going back and forth
on him and so I I contacted him. >> He has a phone number and email address on here. So >> bi-weekly. How how often was it being cut before? Was it weekly or >> on the bi-weekly? >> Yeah.
>> The only thing I was thinking is like early in the year when the grass first kicked off like maybe weekly but then like as you get into the drier years then maybe by weekly. Yeah, >> just so he's not like beating up his equip like cuz that it does pull a lot of strain on the the mower and stuff too when it gets too tall, you know, cuz you
got all that heavy green grass. >> That's another thing too is sorry. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I said I was like, you know, like by like you know the middle of June or fourth of July or 1 of July like switch over to bi-weekly. But like initially when the grass first starts coming in rain in the spring like every
five days sometimes, you know, so yeah, the grass don't quit. in the beginning. >> No, >> it's just one of >> sounds like the idea. Yeah,
>> it's is good. >> Well, you're right. Like this time of year easily every >> when it gets dry, you know, and then you you can go a little bit longer, but um >> I'm not saying waste time's money, but it also like >> we rain this June, too. So,
>> stop. I don't know how we would have to like dictate that if we could just say, "Hey, now at this time or would we just have to like pick a date or >> date? Pick a date." >> Yeah, I guess. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay.
>> Did he say when he's ready to start? >> Um, he said let him know and he can get us in the schedule whenever for one of his days he's out doing lawns. Okay. >> He'll throw us on like a Tuesday or whatever. Works for him. >> I can talk to him about that and see what he wants to do. Great. >> Is there a total amount that's budgeted
for this type of mowing? Like so many dollars? >> So, I think we spent around $1,200 on just the mowing last year, and I was trying to lower that. Um, but I wasn't getting anywhere with our
gunner that we had before. Okay. >> Um, and then the next vendor that I tried to call, they never called me back. So >> um yeah, >> is that could be a factor too? Like you run out
>> with all the extra money that happens early in the year and then by this time of year do we still have money to >> Yeah, I can crunch the numbers to see and then we are already you know well into the growing season almost the
end of the growing season. So, I don't see why bi-weekly right now wouldn't be an issue. And we'll just budget it for next year if he's going to have the same pricing. We'll have to >> ask him maybe in like January or February >> before the budget um hearings start.
>> I know that was a pretty aggressive quote he gave me. He says basically covering his expenses. So labor was basically free just to kind of help the town out. >> We'll we'll try to contact them again in the winter or the next coming season to
see what the price would be and then budget for that. >> So then we can finally be >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> So the next item was >> stay. >> Yeah, you can stay.
The next item is discussion open space committee which we talked about last time. I don't have any updates from the select board that any official people have volunteered. Have you had any luck? I mean >> yeah I own the committee. You're a
committee of one right now. >> Yeah I know John right hold it down. >> Sometimes you get more done. >> Yeah I work by myself so you know I'm used to working out just hammer stuff out. I did show him the files that was it last week or two weeks ago. I showed him where all the files are started on
that, >> you know, showed him where the um the open space plan is if he wants to read up on that and couple of bits and bobs for homework. >> Yeah. School then. >> Yeah. Well, it's good to read through
the file so they get a better understanding of correct what needs to be done. >> Yeah. So let's let's leave this on the agenda so that we keep our our focus on this. >> Are we actively searching as a town for
open space people? >> Yeah. >> Add the committee >> on Facebook, right? >> Am I wrong? But I thought when we talked about forming the open space, wasn't there a lot of interest or did people just not follow through then when the actual open space committee was formed? >> There was there was a lot of interest. I
think just the time passed and people found something else. >> I went to the sele and I think maybe the select board. There's probably at least three people there that work for open space. I don't know if those are open space or like planning or something else. So maybe like I said
>> okay you can stay for the next one too. Okay. >> Okay. Next item is quantity of split rails for Woodland Ridge and approved quote for purchase work date scheduled for August 23rd which is this Saturday. >> This Saturday. Yep.
>> What time? >> We said 9:00 >> and who is planning on participating? >> I am planning on participating. >> Okay, great. >> It's 9 o'clock a.m. Right. >> Yeah. >> You got to make sure. Shh. I don't know.
>> Andy. >> Oh, I'm already going. Yeah. >> You're gonna go, Conor? >> Oh, yeah. I'll be there. Yes, sir. >> Beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Yes. He has volunteered to haul out the old wood. I have the split rails already. They're in the garage. I plan on unloading my truck on Friday, so I
can just pull right in Friday morning. There's only seven There's only seven split split rails that need to be replaced. I have a feeling. Hopefully, it's going to go quick. I've never installed a split rail before. I just bought them at Home Depot. No idea if we're going to have to. I don't know.
>> We're figuring out. >> Yeah. >> A post sticker or an auger. Auger would be better. >> We don't even need to do the post. It's just a couple of the horizontal. >> Oh, just just changing the >> horizontal. Well, it depends upon how how thick the ends are. >> Yeah. They fit.
>> That's what I was concerned. They >> They're not pre-cut >> compared Huh. >> They're not pre-cut. They are pre-cut, but it's Home Depot, so I'm just I don't know. I've never installed split rail before. I don't know what to anticipate. I just anticipate it not going as smoothly as I think it might
go. >> And then lift the up and then just balance it out and then leave it. It's really not hard at all. >> Maybe. >> We might need to, you know, unless the lights fits in the slot. That's >> Yeah, >> like zip tie clippers. I don't know if that string of lights is on there with
zip ties. We're probably not gonna take the lights >> right now utility body. So I have all that in there scramble for >> also screw place. >> Yes, I'm going. >> I do believe Clark might be going to do some positive present. >> Really?
>> Yeah. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So I see Andy, Connor, Norm, Sabrina, and possibly both car. Anybody else that's going to >> I'll be there, but I got to run the clay course on that day. I'm sorry. I can't. Saturday morning. There should be enough
people. >> Was it Amanda? Amanda from from the neighborhood. I think she's going >> um and I believe my boyfriend [Music] >> I'm sure we'll end up walking around.
>> I'm not walking in >> binoculars. Now related to that is we need to schedule putting the Granville Gorge roof on. >> Yep, you do. >> Good day.
>> Say good day. >> Thank you. >> Does it have to be a Saturday? This is my first question. >> Better or not? >> Um, no, it doesn't. It It can be whenever. >> This is the roof. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What do we need to install the roof?
Like how how are we going to do? I don't know how to >> Nothing. Just show up now. >> A water shed. >> Ladder. >> Well, you already got the roofing. >> It's in. >> Yeah. Just clips and screws and >> I have some hardware left over. Did I show you the back?
>> Yeah. >> You don't need any cut it, Andy. >> It's all cut. >> Already pre-cut. >> Yeah. You send them the dimensions and they cut everything to vote and just get a better >> the the gable or whatever for Nordon >> the roof cap. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> Um >> this Wednesday day after tomorrow. Yes. >> Or Friday. >> This one. Well, this Wednesday I do have two doctor appointments in the afternoon. So,
um, >> 23 afternoon. >> I'll make either, but we could do it. I don't think it's going to take us that long, is it? >> The route. >> Didn't take us longer to walk around and wonder how than actually do it, >> right?
>> Yeah. >> No, probably two and a half hours. >> Okay. >> Between North Pond and then over to there. You need ladders. >> I'll bring a ladder. >> I'll bring I'll bring a 10 foot step ladder. >> Yeah, we got two ladders. That's two ladders.
>> Yep. >> So, Wednesday at 9, is that convenient for you >> in the morning? >> Yeah. >> Oh. Um, >> don't need that. She whenever she shows up is good. >> Okay, >> we'll get roll.
>> Wednesday night. 9 is good. >> Okay. No, >> you're welcome to come if you want. >> I got Wednesday. >> Okay. >> Then we'll swing over to North Pond to put the cap on. >> Yeah. With whatever time we got left over.
>> I heard North Pond in there. So, where are we starting today? All right. >> So, you guys are going to do Wednesday at 9:00. >> We'll bring a ladder, too. Folding ladders. Isn't that easier if you have a folder? Yeah, the two folding ladders. That's what he's saying. It's the step ladder.
>> Yeah. Over the 10 folder. >> So, you're starting >> step 9:00 Wednesday. >> Great. >> Wow. We're getting there. >> Thank you. >> I'll set with me now. >> I'm done.
>> If you want certainly can stay. Next item on the fifth table, update on possible violation 142 Brookshire A. I did go by there this afternoon on my boat.
The sil fence is not up. >> Have you heard from them? >> No. So both 142 144 they're So I sent the enforcement order via certified letter because that's what we're supposed to do. Certified letters are
stuck in transit. they've been stuck in transit. Um, so I sent an email off to 142 Berkshire basically saying, "Hey, sorry, your enforcement order is stuck in transit. Here's a copy of it. Um, by
the way, we noticed that you haven't put your silk fence up. Can you please do that?" And I haven't gotten a response. >> Since last name is Terry is the constable Roz's last name Terry. last aid Terry. He's the conible delivers
horse. >> We might need to do that over there, right? They they just totally blew us off two meetings in a row. So, okay. >> 144. Even though they haven't received it, there's still fences up, >> right? Because if you told them to do it
at the meeting, that would make sense. Both of them would do it. >> Yes. Okay. Nothing new on the tabled item for Southwest wetland bylaws. Changes to that
possible CPA project land conservation restriction acquisition. Any update there? >> Oh yeah, but none of them seemed very promising. Um I did go to the planning board meeting last week. Um they had
some good input. Um but they would they want a plan which makes sense. Um, but there is no plan yet. Everything is still up in the air. I met with Honor with the Trust for Public Land and two people from the Franklin Land Trust LA
last week to talk strategy. Um, the South Lake Land Trust kept coming up in conversation. So, now we've got them um we're going to have a meeting with them in a couple of weeks. And I'm on the select board meeting next week um to talk about it with them to see what
their thoughts are with the town possibly acquiring it or uh acquiring the CR. I have a feeling they're going to say they don't want anything to do with it. It's It's been interesting. Mhm. >> It seems like a worthy cause, a worthy
project, but we're I'm kind of at a standstill because I can't find anybody who wants to own it, who wants to manage it. So, um, >> which property was that? >> 306 Feeding Hills Road is a property that's up for sale.
>> But where that chimney's been standing, it used to be the old auction house >> and it's been used for years as parking for the ME and it's up for sale. So, okay, let's not lose that parking. Let's purchase it or have someone purchase it. >> Wasn't that um pending for a while?
Someone let us back out of it. >> Yeah. >> And we approved plans for it to build up. So, >> we did. >> Why' they back out? >> Well, we didn't we didn't we didn't necessarily approve what they did and then they withdrew because of the the stream was it wasn't it was within a
drought, right? >> Yes. And they couldn't prove that it was intermittent. So they withdrew their application and then they just scooted everything outside the riverfront. >> Yes. >> Um but he since decided to not build and sell the property.
>> So um >> changed his mind. >> Just changed his mind. >> Yeah. >> That federal park it like when we were up there and we were talking about buying it. You can camp on that as a thru-hiker is my understanding is why
they bought it. on that particular parcel possibly. >> And when I mentioned like normal camping, it was like like you can't like but I my understanding is you could camp like primitive backpacker camping on that property was the reason it was
bought to preserve like the Appalachian Trail, >> right? >> That you could go off the trail and camp. >> It's possible that >> I know he was going to build a duplex there first. >> No, no, no. the federal park that's there now. >> The land that was purchased that is now a federal park.
>> You're talking about that u 200 acre >> that we want to purchase the parking lot so you can have access to the federal park that would be right there again. >> Right. So >> I could park in the parking lot or my backpack and go >> camp for the weekend in the federal
park. Is that not >> connected? Isn't that how that >> It's all Yeah, it's all connectable use. >> Yeah. >> So that's why they bought the federal park so hikers could camp on that land. >> Do they need to have a permit or
anything to do it? Like do they come to town and get a permit? >> No. >> You don't want people saying more than >> that was the conversation with the lady that never got big. >> Yeah, we got that. Right.
>> Mention that. Honor. Never. >> Be a big problem. >> What was her name? >> Honor. >> Honor. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> Well, yeah. Cuz I thought camping was allowed on there as long as it was like primitive camping as a hiker. >> I know. >> There's an entrance for that like to get
hiking trail because you don't >> There isn't one leg. You could cross the road. It's that wagon cart path that goes in the woods >> by the sportsman's club. Yeah, it's on the maps. It goes through the sportsman's club and then down the other
side and it goes doesn't go up behind the quarry. It goes in front of the quarry and then it goes up. >> Plains Cory. >> Yeah. The one on the north side of >> Yeah. Yeah. >> feeding Hills Road. Yeah. It stays low in front of the quarry and then it goes up the backside >> and then it goes down the back side of
the mount away from the rifle range >> and then it follows the ridge >> all the way to >> New Hampshire >> Westfield River Connecticut River >> Three Sisters or Pasad [Music]
right all the way to Mount Nagna >> right >> used to be the Eminem trail Right. [Music] >> But I thought that land was available for that type of primitive which would make the parking like that now
>> go together. >> They want eventually for it to be so it's a through height. It takes two two weeks to go from one point to the one end to the other end. And the idea is to make it an easier through hike because now a
good portion of the land that the trail goes through it's private property. >> Sure. >> And there isn't a lot of places for camping. Um so you'd have to go like on the road and find a hotel or something. Um, so the federal government's come in
with the National Park Service and they're they're trying to purchase more parcels of land than you think of the archery book too, right? Yeah. >> You got the revolvers and then you got the archers in there.
>> Okay. So then Hunger Games. >> Yeah. Yeah. And to your point of the private property, it used to go straight across Barry Street and now you have to when you come out heading south, you had to go down Barry Street to that triangle and then back around in because the
private property that used to cross it, >> right? >> The owners closed it. >> Yeah. >> Closed. Yeah. They said no more because the dirt bikes were running it. They said nobody >> I would have >> we we walked a section of it when they
when they put that bridge in >> down Yeah. >> the rising corner. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> The um floating bridge. >> Floating. >> Yeah. >> It's a super cool hike. >> Yeah. >> It goes down like if you're in the Walmart parking lot and you're looking
up at the big water tanks that grassy field. >> You go across the bottom of the grassy field. So, we're on the way back down to the river. >> You still on a possible CPA project when is that? >> Yeah, that's what we're we're chat chatting about that. >> Okay. We're still working on that.
>> Oh, yeah. Still working on it. >> Okay. Up on that, I think. >> Yeah. Unless someone wants to add anything. >> Okay. It's interesting information. Yeah. Okay. Discussion on 485 Lake View Drive. We're still on hold. Wait to hear back
from our legal on that. 623. The giant project is still progressing. So far, it looks looks wonderful. I hear it's way over budget. >> Nothing new on 451 Lake View Drive. And
I don't believe we'll hear anything on that. >> Dead Tree North Pine. Any update? >> No, I expect to >> That's why I'm here. >> Oh. I may >> Hi. I was going to have you move things around, but I decided to listen instead,
but okay. If I >> You're coming. >> Um I've been a little out of commission. Um so I haven't been here all season. I'm Lisa Bailey. I live at 19 North Pond. A lot of the commission knows about this tree. Um not everybody, I
believe, does. Maybe they do. Um it's about 50 feet from my house. It's estimated to be between 80 and 90t tall. Um, I brought it to the attention of the commission last year in 2024. >> It started to die in 2023. You guys went
out or a group of them went out and said they took a look at it. It didn't seem like it was um an immediate need to have it removed in immediate danger. It didn't look like it was leaning or anything like that. Um, it's significantly worse this year. The bark
is all off the top of it. Um, and I went out on the water and the tree is leaning significantly towards my house. >> So, I would like to forward because obviously there's no reception in here and I'm like a toddler and I forget to do stuff. I didn't print out the pictures. Um, you know, if I get
somebody's email address or a commission email address, I'd like to email it to you, but I literally went out on the water and I put myself a 90° baseline. I circled the bottom of the tree and it does this towards my house. >> Um, is it going to fall tomorrow? Who knows? Could it? Yes. Is it going to
fall in 5 years? Who knows? Could it? Yes. My concern is my bedroom's there. That's where I sleep. This is where my daughter and I watch TV. I don't know what or if anything is going to happen. And it's not the whole tree that I'm just concerned about because if you walk
through that conservation comm that conservation land, you'll see the tops of trees are off everywhere. So, what happens if just the top 40t go? You know what I mean? Um, I don't need it landing on my house. I don't need it landing on my cars. If the whole thing goes, it's taken out a couple neighbors. So, I really would like to bring it from the
old business back to the new business again and have somebody take a look at it again if we could. >> Um, do you know Ryan Duncan of Ryan G Service? >> I do not. >> Oh, he said that he was going to have a look at it within the next couple of weeks. Give me a Whoa. Um, I'll have him
look at the leaning situation. >> You have to go do it from the water for the most part. Well, unless he knows >> I'll send him the pictures or So he can have a look at that to see what the risk factor is. He's a better judge than I am. >> My plan was
>> if there was no risk, >> get the quote, put it in the budget for next year. Yep. >> Have the top half lpped off. Yep. Yep. >> So the B just so we still have that snag and it's not a danger to your property. >> I agree with you because it looks like the top portion of it is the worst.
>> Yeah. So we'll just take that off and just drop the top part somewhere on the property right there. So, we're not removing any. And I think this has already been approved by the state to do. >> Okay. Like I said, I'm a little behind the eightball here. I've been kind of crippling my way through the summer this summer. So, um I appreciate that you
guys have been following up on I just wanted to make sure that I came and kind of made sure it was still kind of in the forefront type of thing. >> Yeah. And it's good to update and let me know that there's some lean to it, too. >> Yeah. So, I'm sorry. >> What's your email address? >> You gave me an email that's on the
picture. >> Yeah. I I used to have Sabrina's, but I don't know if I still have it. So, >> here's your So, I'll send it just for you guys to share just to show the progression and a little bit of lean. Now, are you I'm not
going to say are you could you email me or contact me after he's out there to let me know what he says or is there a way I can meet up with him to talk about it because obviously I'd like to be kept in the loop since I'm right there. Yeah, maybe we all can do a site visit
together. Ask them to try to um pick a day. Yeah. That we can go out. Is there a particular time of >> No, I mean I work during the day, but I can leave if I need to and come home. Um I have every other Friday off, but for the most part, I I work in Sims Square. I just have to drive home, you know,
whatever we decide. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. So, I think he said he was on vacation or something. Um but >> but yeah, I mean, I appreciate that you guys have been continuing to follow up on it. I just like I said I wanted to make sure >> forgotten. We haven't forgotten. >> Yeah. And it's starting to get a little worrisome for me. I don't need it
crashing through my house. >> Well, that's why I kept it on here too cuz like we're constantly seeing it. Um because if we take it off >> Yeah. It's the tallest tree on North Pond. You can't miss it either. >> I'm very inspired that we see it. >> All right. That's all I want to thank you.
>> Thank you for coming. There's a good open space. >> Yeah. Another open. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Next time just butt it and say yeah the action >> is that good.
>> Okay. Next item. Report from the Sfield Conservation Commission meetings. Nothing to report. Nothing new on the agendas has to do with the lake. >> Okay. Update on North Pond Conservation Responsibilities for Compound.
Um, latest on the signs, Sabrina. >> They are being created. >> Okay. So, proofs were approved. >> Proofs were approved. >> What's taking you so long? Were those signs, Sabrina? See, it's all your >> juice is correct. That's where they come from. >> Purpose.
>> How many time How many different re revisions on it? Eight or nine or >> That was one sign. >> That was just one sign. And and when we finally got the proof back from the mass core, um they didn't even look at that.
>> So we had to go back and say, "Hey, can you do this one more time?" >> Then market when they make the signs over there. >> Yeah, they're pretty they're Yeah, they're pretty cheap. >> Wow. Okay. >> Um
>> but they're not very good at spellcheck. Well, I'm not very good at watching. Uh >> oh. >> Well, I was thinking they they sent PDFs over. They should have sent word documents and then you do spellch
checkck. Can't really do spell check unless you really got the super duper PDF problem. >> So, just keep that in mind down the road when we use them again. Make sure we're make like every word is spelled correctly.
And related to that, that picnic could be spelled either way. I didn't know if there was >> What is it? >> Picnic. They say picnic was >> Yeah, there was Renee actually caught that. >> I thought it'd be spelled either way. What do I
>> It might with a K. >> Basket. I was there too. This is why I hand it off to her camp. It's picnic picnic t
of course. >> Okay, just give you an update on North Pond tours and the observations from the tours. There's now been 51 trips into North Pond since May 14th. 160 violations.
Number one is beaching of boats 55. Number two is littering 40. Number three is destruction of property 27. And I wanted to let you know that surveillance signs have gone up.
Cameras are up and running. We're working some issues with the cameras. >> Good. Uh few more signs on surveillance signs are going to go up next week. Uh recent vandalism since the signs went
up, it's actually been down. >> A little deterrent. Rope swing is out of commission. And also they built a diving platform or jumping off platform. That's out of commission.
So things are going okay there. Good. So next item on the agenda, open uh conservation projects and discussion of assignments.
Uh cameras are up and and we don't have a new secretary. That was two of them that are completed. Yay. and still waiting to hear back from Nicole on um the closure of Willy Drive land
ownership issues. She said she was going to take that and that's an update on that. >> And now this one we can take off hopefully discussion on Japanese notweed. They didn't want to take it off
because you asked it to go on. >> Yeah. What the master plan implementation committee did was in their review of the master plan, they found that it was a missing action item for invasive landbased weeds
and we added Japanese notweed to that list and it's been assigned to the agricultural commission to execute. >> Are you happy with that? >> That's fine. Okay. So, we can remove that whole outfit at Yukon, right? That are right.
I did I did notice when they did do the mowing on Fred Jackson, they mowed right over it though. >> Randy never reload. >> Randy did, but Ry's gone. >> Well, I don't know whatever happened. Whoever was mowing, did you notice right on road got mowed right over
>> side too down to again? >> I mean, it is what it is, but they just Yeah, they just they were whoever does mowing did not get educated on what we >> gave them specific orders. He told me not to not to cut it. >> Yeah. or they were to hand cut it and bag it.
>> They never It never trickled down, I guess. Or the guy whatever. I don't know. Something happened, but it was closed. Right. >> Yeah. >> Sabrina, did you have anything else on the cons observation coordinator report to report?
Um we had um a homeowner um Binding Hill Road who's contacted me about um a bank eroding on Pearl Brook to the point where it's about a foot away from their driveway. So um I'm going to go out
there get some suggestions from the DPW on how to stabilize it. This is all on private property. Um, so DBW doesn't is not going to fix the issue. It's up to the >> looks like it could qualify for an emergency certification because it's so
close to the dive or >> the can issue that if they get a result. >> Okay, good. Anything else? >> I think that's it. >> Okay. Nor, have you heard anything on LMC about purple loose strife on North Pond?
>> No. in the cold areas up by the um >> 51 Hank East over by that area >> over there. >> Yeah. She said there's purple loose stripe. We should notify the aquatic
people about that. It's beautiful, but it's an invasive. >> Which co? We we had dredges out one time over by uh on North Pond by where Dave Breco's house used to be. >> Yeah. >> And in that area, Delta Inky and
>> Okay. >> Melvin. >> It was purple. What? >> Blue stripes. >> Blue. >> Loose loose. >> Purple. Loose stripes. >> Those are the tall ones. They >> do look nice in water, but
>> they do. But they multiply. Make sure I'll let LMC know that. >> Have some down in the canal, too. >> Yeah, it's probably worked it way out. >> Okay. Uh on other matters, also good
news, the dredging design contract for Canel and Great Brook uh for the design portion has been awarded. They're going to have a kickoff meeting
on well September 12th. I think it's at 11:00. I am out of state for that. I cannot attend. So, we need to have somebody else there. >> So, it's going Friday.
>> It's Friday. >> 9:12. >> 912. >> So, that's the canal dredging project. >> Yeah. It's for the design. >> The design part of it. Yeah. So that's >> Where is it going to be? >> Uh to be determined. I'm sure some
person town hall because they're gonna have a lot of people there. [Music] >> I sent you guys a new one. >> Yeah. So what's what's going on with the rear gates and the beaver removal and the heavy equipment down there? Is that
being done under the uh order conditions? Yeah, they're just removing beaver dams >> when >> uh it was on Facebook that John Kane had heavy equipment down there and was >> ripping out dams and according to the order of conditions, there's supposed to
be notice given to the commission. There supposed to be photographic, you know, shown progress before and after. >> Yeah. >> You know, you can't just go in there and start bulldozing without >> No. It's an order of conditions like any
other order of conditions that has to be abided by. >> Was that to the lake management committee? >> Yeah, it's got to be like >> the beaver problem. Is that on the >> Yeah, there's a huge beaver problem down there. >> Is that on the canal by the rail trail? >> Yeah. >> By the we gates, right?
>> Real close to the we gates. >> I used to be kind of down a little bit by the I just >> Yeah, >> he was posting on Facebook that he had down there was Should I in violation? >> No.
>> Is it just for when we bring equipment in? >> I mean, if they take they take it out by hand, we have to do that. >> I try to bring up the >> Anytime. Read the order condition like you tell everybody else to do. >> Yeah. >> And it I think it's at the end of the
the order where all the special conditions are. Let's see. I felt like being surprised like that permit or anything like that ahead of time. >> Um, >> the reason why I brought that up is because it could cross the state line.
>> That's right. About >> in the old days where they used to build right Massachusetts and Connecticut on the rail trail, >> you look into the canal. >> I think this I think the CRC is the one that posted it. >> Yeah. And if it's closer to the wear gates, it's obviously in mass, but
>> it's a little bit farther south. I think the majority of the machine equipment start in Connecticut. >> So they came from Connecticut and doing it in Connecticut. >> Not sure. I don't know. >> We'll look into it and find out what's going on.
>> So the order of conditions >> good maintenance plan for that. The commission shall be notified 24 hours in advance before removal of any beaver dams or blockage >> and the applicant shall receive approval from the commission or its agent before removing the blockage.
>> Right. Okay. >> And the order is exclusively for the maintenance of flow of the water control device in Canel Brook and does not apply to any other jurisdictional areas. And the applicant shall monitor and document all the events that take place within
this jurisdictional area. So >> record shall be I'm sure he knows >> shall be submitted to the commission after any work takes place within its jurisdictional area >> and then it goes on about extending it >> and they're limited. I mean it's not
like a pre-fall. You can't get a permit to do that kind of work and sit on it and do it for a whole year. It's a limited time span like 10 days. >> Disorder conditions been how many years? 10 years. >> It's a 10day thing. We have to reapply for another one. >> They have taken out at least 15 dams
this year. >> Number of beavers is just growing. >> Yeah. Right. >> You know, no not saying like there's there's protocol involved, you know, like saying there >> steps. >> Are you looking for a trapper still?
>> Yes, >> you are. >> Yes. >> Well, then take this number down. >> Oh, hey. Um, I'm a certified trapper, but I'm no good. >> Certified in Connecticut?
>> No, not not a Connecticut. Okay. Yeah. >> Um, >> do you want to just give it to me after? >> Well, you need you need experience for this kind of stuff by up there. >> I just have the certificate. You want to just write it down in my notebook so we're not you know
>> E F where are Frankio professional trapper >> blendard three 561 5703 Len Granville
um call them mention my name I'll call and say, "Expect a call from you guys, too." Okay. He's very good at what he does. >> But he's just um certified in mass, I assume. >> Yeah. Mass mass licensed. Yeah. >> Is he pl Do you know if he's planning on
getting certified in Connecticut? >> Uh well, I thought they said there was no certification process for Connecticut right now. >> Well, not right now. >> There's an there's an exam you course you got to take. brain accord
so to give it to him apply it in today's roles >> right >> he's good he's good at what he does he really is so yeah >> right >> so I'll deliver that message to see okay anybody got anything else they want to bring up
>> hearing none I'll take a motion I'll make the motion to journ the motion that made the motion and you made the second let's go for a roll call vote Andy I >> Dennis >> I norm. unanimous vote and we're going to close
the meeting at 8:17 p.m. Right.