good evening everybody we're starting a few minutes late um it is what it is today is April 30th it's Tuesday we are at the finance committee meeting and in um who's here today Joe Dei Paul Conley Sher nton Kar deleted de Mar and then we have David meth on zoom and we have RJ rochak on Zoom also we have enough to have a meeting thank you up first is minutes approval of minutes for 32624 motion second okay all those in favor Joe ddii con Sheron I Karen El G Maria I David methy ey Robert h i okay then we have meeting minutes for 42 2024 and 418 2024 we we do joint motion okay motion seconded okay all those in favor Joe D PA Sher Alon I Shar okay so El Maria I for April 2nd I to abstain from April 18th thank you David methy I Robert herek I thank you we ever Reserve fund transfer no I thought I saw High not that it came my way good that's good they they figured it [Laughter] out well they didn't like the look they got when they walked into a county I'm not sure which butless to say it didn't show up here all right so approval of the FY 2025 budget which I believe will be this sh here well that's the whole packet but yeah we have some length discussions over this I don't see anywhere else we can really talk personally or we took care of all the small things we had this morning the small things we had this morning or don't so you're are you comfortable I am comfortable that this is this is going to be and that takes a lot for you to be comfortable so we're there we're there okay so now it's just going through each page and each okay and voting so do you want to do it Page by Page or do you want to do so let's look at each page by page and see if anybody has questions and then when we get to um the totals for each category General government then you can do okay is your Green Copy different than ours or is it just okay check all right folks page one most questions and if you notice on the right hand side there's a percentage up and down right so that's and of course it's a new format this year right it's it's one way we're not going the other way so the lettering is bigger you can see it I know Diane mentioned last night she wants to go the other way of boxes but I think she was just busting me I I got have smile L of maybe she was serious oh well at least I gave her a quiet quick answer um so that's page one page two you're going to see some you know the treasure collectors being big negatives and sure we'll have real numbers I think once it do settles right and then you can see that you know on the next page there's the hashtag divisible can't calculate because right they're new numbers and it's comparing it to n page three reach4 sentes are nice though you can to lose though M give it just a y and if something's minus 89% you can look over and see that's where we would pause to take your vote okay General general fund that's or the general government General government and then the number yeah that is the which is the body it's in the box in the middle there one exra in the middle 3 million have % okay so I need a motion for general fund General government sorry motion could you say the number though please do you want me to 9% motion for 9% increase does that work or do you need to say the entire I say the entire number the enti okay motion for 3,138 1033 for fy2 thank you seconded seconded all those in favor Jo DDI all Sher nton I Ken I El Maria I David David mythy I Robert H I thank you all right so we're still on page five Public Safety six so so in here is a school resource officer the new one correct correct correct which is being build back to the three schools so we understand that and the benefits everything every every of overtime benefits whatever car washes that's another great question so that means we have to give him another car too I wonder Mr mlin do you know that we we have to have another car since there's two of them up there I think they accommodate it within the existing thank you make sure we build them for that too okay number eight r nine at the top and that's where it stops correct y y so that's up 7% total Dave you good yeah how come we didn't have the percentages in our um preliminary budget uh documentation is that something we can do next time we can try but we didn't really have until we were settled on what we were going to do with the budget so once we were finally done then lower could put them in yeah you know I think there was enough moving Parts in the budget to not mess with percentages too I think we got more confused yeah if that now that it's done we can see it and I guess we'll have it for next year because we'll have those sitting there yeah okay thanks yes motion for total Public Safety budget for $3,866 79 second okay all those in favor Jo DD I Paul I Sher nton I Ken i d Maria I David methy I Robert Ro I page n public we this one I just got to go to the total because this one makes my head hurt do we to public works yeah okay so on page 11 yeah yeah that's and we managed to have it I had to that's why I had to do do the Excel file Recon because there was so much movement I was like I can't I I can't do this you can see it with my own eyes that it balances it does yeah okay so we're on page 11 and we're at the end of the total Public Work public works yeah and it says motion to approve total Public Works FY 25 budget 26789 seconded Al in favor Joe d i Paul Conley I Sher nton I I El G Mar I David methi Robert hary we won't even go there okay somebody here a little baby one page 11 oh no yeah exactly other environmental by itself I no that $20 motion total to approve total other environmental at $775 for f125 seconded all those in favor Joe DDI Paul con Sher Alon J May David meth ey Robert I thanks guys okay Human Services increase really you aren much to talk about so the assistant director is minus 100% does that also include the Shing counselor that's does it come back up somewhere so yeah the director salary is up in the active activi benefit coordinator is that a new position that's the new or the new title okay which includes shine yes which includes shine okay so we want to put a slash there and put shine coordinator next to it not now but you know what I mean we can I would hate to have them think it went away yeah okay okay or maybe I can combine the two lines yeah you know I mean right just just do something to yeah so you can still get a percentage out of it too because it's just a name change yeah yeah so so that position isn't funded by U Medicare or the state or anybody the shine coordinators I I don't believe so sir there may be some funds that we get back but I I don't believe so I know it right now they're not doing it and I great barington or or Lee is the next spot it they have to make appointments so it's it's not you know it's not every day but it is vital to our town and and what it provides for our seniors yeah especially with the percentage that we hold yeah okay so total Human Services I guess P there page 12 yeah motion to approve total Human Services budget for fy2 in the amount of 4346 $68 seconded okay all those in favor Joe DDI Paul con shering Alon i k Alita Maria I David methy I Robert I thank you what did we just do for the vet fans 20,000 Reserve fund transfer transfer culture and recreation also page 13 there's one that's going to make your go wow what's that one of them's going to make your eye go wow on page 13 that the water Dark Water yeah personally I think it's underfunded but we'll we'll worry about that Happ well actually honestly I think we're okay this year because I don't I it's going to take a while to build right regardless so I think by the time it's built um and it gets warm enough and it gets warm enough and right we have 27 rainy days which we seem to have every weekend yeah that may lower that number or not or make it that we're okay is that expected to be available this year or yeah I believe so I I I thought I heard it's April now right I think in middle of May or May 1st they had planned on bringing equipment over to start so I think it will be done you know Midsummer hopefully yeah there's some time to winner rise it which will be a fun for that right I'm sure oh there's a total the bottom page 14 no bottom 13 there's totals I thought it looked weird when it went to debt I'm like no no no that that doesn't belong with the other one you've been on this so long I think I'm just burned out when it comes to this this last day all right the total yeah it's motion to approve total culture and recreation in the amount of $ 7259 154 second all those in favor Joe DDI Sher nton I Maria I David matthy I Robert h i and that's down minus 4% in the end okay excuse me that insurances your principal payments how did you keep debt interest and insurance at only 1% that's where the loans are probably are in their lifetime it has to be because the the casual insurance is up 7% but everything else or that rolling off we put on that's a good thing how did the Capital Equipment like the trucks or ambulance how did they go down by their amortization sched oh okay I got it thanks yep the above ground fuel takes dropped off where were where were those behind the new DP well DPW has above ground tanks in the back there it was those tanks okay yeah they used to be behind the fire department and a few years ago we decided to finally pull those up which worked out well yeah it's nice to see that they're done well we're definitely funding a lot of projects what is police and fire accident is a is a insurance they insurances they insurance right right um all right so motion to approve total debt interest and insurance the amount of 3,137 n80 seconded all those in favor Joe DV all Sher nson I Shar I El Maria I David methy I Robert h i and then we need a motion for grand total yes motion for grand total General government the amount of 13, 366,000 85 seconded a Jo I Paul con I Sheron I Karen J Alita Mar I David methi Robert H I so interested Insurance went up 1% and total grand total General government went up 4% we're on page 15 sewer we're okay with the salary Reserve going down laa yes because there's nothing happening there's nothing happening it was higher last year because of negotiations yep and the scatter upgrades we actually move that's why he says minus 100% mhm okay pretty good yep okay motion to approve grand total sewer division in the amount of 1,338 376 seconded all those in favor Joe d i Paul Sher nton I Karen De i d Maria I David mythy I Robert h i and folks that one up to 1% elect salaries 16 salary is going up 10% a day people where's that the water Budget on uh page 16 yeah salaries full-time full-time salaries since their negotiations okay I so it over time I didn't know if they added a person or negotiations no negotiations than that would be the tip at once okay time down so I to pass some some of that was part-time that was in the selectman's office is that what that is the parttime that parttime and slowly here we'll see how that goes with the new the new um Nicole yeah see we're not calling her Carl anymore so we're getting better so the new Nicole will have a lot to do with all that moving forward y yeah right yeah I'm 16 the week is 17 take your time I am okay motion to approve grand total Water Division amount of 1,545 748 seconded all those in favor Joe d i PA Sher i k IED J Maria i d David methy I Robert r i and that is down 2 per. this we went back and forth about putting it into the budget and not having it separate but I think there's enough change this year where we'll just leave it separate and maybe next year look maybe moving in into the [Music] budget this increases really just all salaries so it's Staffing because we're adding people right okay yeah you add people you insurance but the revenue is that why the holiday pay is up so much the holiday pay yep for the three people and then oh they added three huh yeah yes yep yep and I think the hope with that is that they''re done for quite a while the same as last year was policed so we had quite a few on so I think the hope is we're fully staffed yeah and find a happy medium with it all yeah okay motion to approve grand total EMS budget in the amount of 1,620 273 second Jo I Paul Sheron I David meth I Robert okay CL the official document the official I'll just make that one change yes yes um for Shine for shine yeah or combine probably collap them combine them so I can present this Thursday night to the select board when the other when they will get copies they have copies yep we'll one [Music] copies assignment of pros and cons and looks like there's a few that are here so did Alita um did you draft these Alita did not the pros the pros and cons um and the packets are last year just to give for the standing articles like yeah just to so you guys didn't have to reinvent the wheel when writing them oh I was gonna give kudos to Alita because she usually does but I think she drafted them ahead ahead of the team last year anyway I think I did a few and I think she I think she has homework if that's what you're asking next matter fact I know she has homework they not do till 3 o'clock tomorrow that's I appreciate the extra time okay so article one one for the special Y is the standard yep standard just have to change the FY here I mean it's it's sounds good mhm again it's it reads nice I don't think there's any changes to right no good yeah I like it two is we just have to write in something about the tourism Grant so it's the lights we had gotten a grant for the lights that are along the street pools okay and um we got the first half of the payments but the second half of the payments we were not reimbursed for the lights so did they tell us why we're not going to get into that tonight just look at what's in front of us yeah okay okay that's coming in under article two under article two yeah okay so we just have to use free cash to liquidate the liability exactly okay that's so that retirement other post employment benefits is that that's the retirement for the yeah yeah so I don't need to know today but can we have for town meeting what we still owe on that just so if they cough I can say well good news is we ow 3 million take the 35,000 yeah ping projects some 2000 CET proven light for Cemetery mower Capital that's simple I can speak to cemeteries there they should be able to what's that yeah on on the cemetery one yeah that's a new one so the G the the grass is caught find the gravestones the American flag that ain't no jokes place looks beautiful good yeah we just need to make a change for article one to say fy2 Article 2 needs to address the tourism Grant and we need to write article five progs yeah tourism Grant is due to funding funding source going away stff I don't have an article five not on the pr and cons it's on new this year those pros and cons were from last year right oh yeah that's special special I have four and then I have another sheet that starts at seven that's the annual time meting I have special town meeting I have these for annual one Sherry is in the sheet that start like this there it is oh I got you I got you thank you special [Music] meeting all right I apologize because usually figure out which ones are ours yeah we should at them all anyways just so we you know last night the forest select when we're going you know they were getting a little confused towards the end too so it's nice to actually look at everything the article numbers have changed yeah so don't look at your annual town meeting pros and cons go to the right write up first because the Articles have changed yeah so for the which is article seven but the pros and cons is seven um how much are we putting in for the roadway construction borrowing 800,000 y 800,000 800 what what you don't see is there's the uh the old millionaires tax apparently we're getting some funds from that there's money coming is itpa again I'm confused at this gool so there's funds from arpa that we were going to use for a pump station the pump station came in through the roof twice I believe so there's some money that was allocated for whatever we have already done the difference will go towards Paving so we're going to pull that money down too so in the end it's still a million five okay towards Paving and construction projects on just Paving so that is there and we're not touching the chapter 90 has that on top of the million five so it sounds like a great number and it's decent but it's a Band-Aid yeah yeah having discussion we're gonna look at probably funding $18 million and and if I feel like in a town meeting I'm GNA probably ask for a few raises of hands not for votes which is if those people are there who's willing to spend 18 million on roads raise your hand no but it's that's where we're at so to get a feel for it and we'll probably do something with our sensus or something else to get feedback on that but we this year we're going to push forward and then I would be the jackass that would go well are we bonding that because that's different than free cash that would be me okay I be like can I have a half hand Rae how are we gonna pay for it well exactly oh don't worry you're gonna pay for special pretty line item on your taxes saying here you go that have to go to The Ballot Box Mr and yes it would have to go to The Ballot Box also right yeah yeah and and and you know there's a few things there so while we're on our Soap Box me and Mr M you have the um the schools right and and they came back and dropped their number still a huge number and and we're seeing that here you're definitely seeing that here what the schools have done and we have all that money sitting there but and I I was told a lot of that money we have sitting in our R day fund came from when the schools merged in yada yada yada so I guess I want to see that in writing and are we at the point where we're going to have to start looking at that monies if it really came from when we merged and it's sitting in our savings account I guess it was a rainy day fund to go back to the schools at some point and we have to look at everything but they're going to also have to take into account the changes to the way that the the budgets are done by town because of that new thing we this year right we have that'll come into account for fy2 yeah but I just think we have to look at yeah all the options in front of us to do our due diligence and and if it's a no it's a no yep but we you know I think we have the right board to go through that process right now and and we're GNA have to okay so I went through will somebody just let's double check together what articles we need to be responsible for and so the the packet not the pros and cons just I want to go through and make sure I got them all captured article seven 8 9 10 11 14 15 16 17 18 rning pages and I believe that's it any did I miss any one responsibility and Community preservation do we do we do anything with those I think we can say what funds are in there okay I don't think we take a St we didn't take any stances last year that's what I mean I think we step back we do but I would just say that the funds are available yeah okay can we do a pros and come can we move on yeah they are plenty of people there to speak on that article we still do yeah so the the article seven one that should still stand yes so now reconcile arle eight exist in the and so article n in the pros and cons is actually article eight which is the if this pattern holes true do this that's it no changing our 11 is 10 [Music] think article8 which is nine on here that still holds y so we with that nine to start yeah so let's just do the first page one page at a time article seven is article seven article eight gets crossed off we it's not dump truck and plow article nine on the pros and cons becomes article 8 yes article 10 on the pros and cons become article 9 and now we move to page Sho which article 11 on the pros and cons becomes article 10 yes okay and then 12 there's so article we're responsible for article 11 right yeah well that's a new one that's a new one I don't even know what to do with that we had yeah so we had gotten in money last last year um from opioid settlements that had gone into um our free cash um and they ruled that we can make a special revenue account for um the settlement money so now we need to vote it out of the free cash to put it into the settlement account special revenue account so that we can expend it according to the settlement agreements to assistance assistance you know guess is the best say yeah would that maybe be I don't know if it' be any special group people could be anybody right could be for anything could be there's a criteria I could be for something happening at the school it could be for a veteran do that it falls I think it's kind of yeah I don't know what whether selectman or it will be Public Health fire you know police yeah it doesn't go to the to the individual you know opioid user it goes to the town support mechanisms right right right yeah they have their own recourse themselves like they wouldn't we wouldn't be paying people who were yeah okay yeah so article 11 is a new write up existing article 12 on the pros and cons there's that gets nixed because there's no debt authorization for the school budget okay first time then we jump Community preservation annual budget it's 18 on the pros and cons becomes 14 y um admin and operating expense 19 becomes 15 and we're done with page two good mhm um article on the pros and cons become 16 for the Alum treatment Debt Service um okay so article 17 in the actual all town meeting large packet is new transferring 22 6595 from the community preservation general unreserved fund so that's a new one mhm okay this is also a community preservation fund one that we just say the funds are available we just say the funds are available yeah and meeting but give pros and cons what but we do give pros and cons oh okay do we yeah so we we have in the past and I just going to bring that up at the end because if we're just responsible for saying whether or not the funds are available why why do we why are we yeah we got Wally spray park right we didn't do them last year we did yeah we did what page you want we did more House repair restoration of bronze Memorial more House repair right that was CPC yeah okay yeah um okay so then on page three the pros and cons we're Xing Wally spray park more House repair and has tree remov article 18 bronze 20 bronze yeah yeah but article 18 on that page yeah yeah s which would be similar to the alium treatment really tree removal go away do you know if the pla I heard that do you know if the plaqu got done on woman do not know I think that's all we have what about the 18 dring yeah it's similar to the alien treatment as far as PR cons I would say yeahum treatment I it's Ali we might have those I didn't say they might be in there oh you said Al sorry that's right I just didn't know maybe you knew something we didn't no I surely I do not people that work from home I hey now all I do is talk to my dogs okay so are we doing the wholesal water contract I was curious if that was um there's some savings I'm wondering if there's savings tied to entering into a five-year will sale agreement I don't believe there is I believe it's you have to commit to the five years and we take what we need when we need it um but I know I I'm sure there's no savings what was I thinking right uh so I lost track are we doing um let me see the library walkway or whatever it is um so you know just a random question yeah are we uh asking for volunteers to be take one or two or the I'm going to draft and send through you you've done such an excellent job I'll second that continue if you want to email me directly to to like just reread it about that when you were in Florida you know in other miscellaneous when you are [Laughter] assistant you're visit this love a volunteer I thought my volunteers for that sidewalk and I was like I don't know how to put them together but we can have that we can go over a few now if You' like no my head hurts as rather just sit and bang them out lesser lne or something so what are we moving on to 20,000 uh the statement for everybody stood with the our finance committee St we pretty much tore that one up last year didn't we yeah we did number on that last year so I don't know do we need to vot for the finance committee statement yeah I was just looking do we have to do anything with article [Music] 22,000 there's money the bro is that we need the 20,000 to get these easements to accept the road the con is this chapter on 90 money that's sitting there that we won't get because do we need to do we need to write so we to do I would okay yeah the 20 gr gets us the acceptance of the road and the con is we don't do it it's chapter 90 funds that we were not that are not available to us so we have not accepted that road yet the good news is there's less and less of that we're getting caught if nobody's opposed I might scale back some of the um instead of just leaving the ones that involve CPC um and just leaving them I might just scale back a little bit because we're technically we're just saying whether the f are there or not so I haven't figured it out in my head but I I think we need to say less so I'm going to hope just edit those even though we do talk about it yeah I don't know whether we want to just take votes for um the special town meeting warn article as discussed in the in town meeting yeah we did last year yeah okay so um we putting a motion is that what we're doing what but we haven't put together any of theing to accept the Articles yeah as as we discussed yeah okay oh okay they written and discussed got it all right so motion to accept the special town meeting and all all town meeting annual town meeting sorry um articles as discussed seconded all those in favor Joe DD paa Sher nton I Alita Gia i d Robert herek I we'll have time for one more meeting to go over the cling cons yeah [Music] update statement for Budget motion to accept as what was that our statement oh okay St we tore it apart last year we did yeah I think it still stands nicely was seconded that motion second Qui Sheron Carri Alita Maria I David methy I Robert roaj gu new business when do we need the um [Music] sorry you okay I don't know Friday Monday what are you thinking so uh we're gonna meet on next Tuesday or me next Tuesday everybody we're meeting next Tuesday I think that's what's the date not good for you okay May 7th right yeah May 7th yeah you guys won't be there no don't okay okay how many can make it on Tuesday I'm fine I can make it I can make it two three four five it's four one two Dr Z is not here Dr Z three four so I'll have to reach out to Dr Z to make sure you can make it because you need five not including her right right okay is there another day next week something work better for you guys she can't be included not for quum no Forum right you can vote after but not more so yeah Tuesday's just just Tuesday my we look I am not in the state coming okay but you can like you said you'll get them done yes I'll peruse them Laur of course will look at them yeah I will probably get these done if they don't get done tonight or tomorrow morning it will be Thursday you will have them okay all right so another night works better for you other than Tuesday Tuesday's the only night next week okay what it looks good for you guys next week if we switch it because we'll gain one more person which we should do right I can do Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday's okay Wednesday's okay Dave RJ's wednes they look all right Wednesday's good for me I think so okay if I can if I can join it'll be via zoom and I'll be off camera course I will you'll be muted if I come yeah if you can I think Wednesday works on 5:30 yeah that good yeah okay anything else from the business no old business bus Laura what are we missing this is too simple know last full months of heck and it comes down tell oh yeah well the paperwork's all in order this year yeah yeah I think we pour it apart yeah okay I think we're we're good okay motion to address I didn't hear a second oh a second all those in favor Joe DDI welome Sher I Aid methy I Robert I have a great night thanks for