This is the finance committee. It is March 31st, Tuesday. We're running a few minutes behind. We had to wait for a few folks to come in late, but they're here. So, tonight we have Paul Connley, Karen Deo, Alita Di Maria, Sher Nolton, David
Meth is not here this evening, and Al, how do I say your last name? >> Okay, it'll take me a little while, but I'll get there. I promise. Um, that's definitely Yeah, we're good. So, Jose and forget her.
>> Oh, and RJ not on here though. >> Okay. So, under you have two sides to every on the left side. My first name. All right. So, yes, Robert. I didn't say that either correctly, but that's fine. >> All right. First will be public comment.
If anyone has any public comments, please state your name and address and uh the question. Anyone on Zoom? Cliff is requesting to record the with their computer. Absolutely, sir. Thank you. Anyone in the audience tonight? >> No, thank you.
>> Okay. Well, thank you. Yeah. >> All right. So, nobody for public comment minutes. We' like to approve the minutes for 3326 and 32120 2026. Everyone has time to read them. >> Yes.
>> I'll take a motion. Make the motion. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? JD. I >> G Maria I. >> Darren Deo I. Sher Olden. I >> Robert check. >> All kind. >> Wonderful.
First up is a reserve fund transfer. >> What's that? minutes. >> Did you say sorry that was for both minutes? Both meetings, I should say. >> How are you today? What's going on?
>> Um so we were asking for um I was here this last month. Um our electricity also went up and then this time um unfortunately our fuel bill. So we ended up with um the last payable
larger than anticipated fuel bill. Um so we are just asking for 2200 just to get us through the end of the fiscal year that um includes I took the numbers from last year for these last couple months patted in a couple hundred dollars
because things are going to go up. Um so we're hopeful that this could carry us through >> wonderful. Yeah. Thank you for the due diligence. >> All right, any questions folks? Let me see. All right, so I need a motion. Make the motion.
>> Second. >> All those in favor? Joe DD. >> Alita Maria I Kieran May Sher Nolan I >> Robert Roi >> Paul Conley I wonderful thank you. >> All right. So up next guys is let's talk about the budget. We had our Saturday
meeting. Um lot went pretty well. We had some good discussions, people filled up, which was nice. And I guess we're kind of in limbo because the old days we would have been halfway through the budget by now and and moving right along. Um the the new version of the new
south just a little different. So they're asking for us to meet next week. I don't know if it's Monday or Tuesday at the joint meeting. >> No response yet, but um we have that and you'll get an email probably tomorrow morning. Yeah. Telling us what date is
it? can meet, but I still think we need to go through a budget. Um, and you know, if we can't, so the bottom line is we have 32 days, 33 days to get a budget together. >> Mhm. >> There's the elections May 12th, the week
after his town meeting back two weeks up for the printer. You're like May 3rd, 4th or 5th, somewhere in there. Stuff's got to leave town hall. >> So that's 30 days. Okay. Tomorrow's April 1st, right? >> Yeah. And you sent my email with my little quick questions. >> I did. I actually >> it's in
>> it's in your packet. Everyone has cherry's questions. So we when we get down to that we can speak up to those and we'll discuss them and hopefully we can answer them for you. >> They're pretty normal but they are you know it was suggested that we send something. So it >> I appreciate that.
>> So the bottom line is we're going to meet next week it sounds like and if I had a crystal ball I would say I'm probably going to get a budget done that we can propose which is sickening. So, we are going to go through this budget tonight and you know and I know some of
them say there's no additional requests blah blah blah. We still got to look at the capital, see if there's anything being purchased. The bottom line of last our last meeting on Saturday was I think 670,000 is the number floating around for new
growth and the levy of 2 and a half%. >> That's it. >> How are you tonight? Yes, that is it. Yes. And the schools are at a million. Just say a million, right? I think it's nine. My understanding is$ 970.8. Once again, I haven't seen anything because
that's we're not in that bracket anymore. So, so just say they're at a million dollars and we're at the that that number I quoted. So, we're off by 300 grand or so there, never mind what everyone else wants on their wish list. And we do have 4 million and change
sitting in our free cash. Um, and tonight's exercise, I would like to go over that like we've done in years past and how we've chopped that up. Just so if anyone watches this during the week, they'll get a better understanding of where we're coming from and how we feel. I understand how free cash
shouldn't be in the budget. I understand if DO has changed the rules over the years, but the light switch on and off doesn't work. It just doesn't. You need to blend that in as we go. >> Um, and we're going to have to because the number I quoted isn't going to buy
us anything. We're still short on the school number, never mind anything else that we're going to discuss tonight. Yeah. All right. >> So, theft recash matters is 4 million and and we'll talk later how we've chopped it up in the years past. And I think we do the same thing again and be mindful that next year and quite honestly in years when it was 3 million,
it was 3 million. When it was two, it was two. You know, this year it's 4.3 I think we're sitting at. >> Yep. 4.3. So, I don't know. But we need to put a budget together because at the end of the day, we're here for your neighbors,
right? The taxpayers. Certainly >> those kids in the school, we're here for everybody. This isn't a it's not a game. It's it's our livelihood. It's what we do. And I don't know about all of you, but we got to make a living at home. We got to pay our bills. And the last thing
I need to hear is we put free cash in an account for future equipment and we borrowed 2 million. >> You know, that's not how that's not how South rolls and it's not going to be how South rolls. >> So, let's start on right on page one. moderator. Do we cut her or keep her?
>> All right, we'll keep her. >> That was easy. That was easy. >> Yeah, I like that. >> Sorry, Celeste. If you're listening, you're in. >> You still have a job. >> Um and and that's true, right? So, a lot of this stuff. So, she's fine. Moderator's fine. The select board,
you know, they're going to cut 10%, I guess. You know, and I don't think you can I know you can't go in and cut salaries. >> You can cut positions, I guess. Um, but that's a that's a hard pill to swallow too. Select for that touch. If you look at
the gift account, you still have a couple grand in there. That's that's on them. Chief administrative officer is level. She has nothing
nothing for 27 operations certification expenses $2,000 >> there and there certifications above what's the difference >> so I see certific >> nothing
>> certification at tough is less sting than they get for for their certifications. So the certification expenses is cost of the course of cost cost of the courses. >> Gotcha. >> And then >> yeah. So
>> and the renewal is the application. >> So I'm I'm assuming that her she's got to renew her >> MCPO. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> So that fee must be 2,000 for that sort of thing. >> I gotcha.
>> Okay. And then in 28 they need an assistant for 52,000. >> So you'll have to look at that. Let you know. All right. So reserves >> is going correct.
enhance committee I instructed them to cut 10% regardless I >> can I ask a quick question >> one >> okay >> I'd like you to ask several >> okay I'm going to um are you know as as
a board are we are we going down the 10% reduction road >> or are we going to be realistic or are we going to come up with two budgets I think we're coming up with two budgets at the end at the end of the day if we don't come to terms next week because
>> there was if we were CC seed, hey guys, we've looked at the magic ball. I think we got to cut 10% across the board. And I would said to you guys, hey, there's been some action >> since our meeting and they're looking to cut 10%. Yeah. >> And then I would probably say that's up to the department where they want to cut it. I don't think we need to go line
item looking for 10%. >> They know where their money needs to come from or not come from, right? So that's how we would have handled that. So, as of right now, it's, you know, I just had a couple department heads call me and go, "Why are you cutting my budget?" That's the only reason I found out, >> right? >> I said, "I'm not, you know, I really
thought we could level fund." >> I think over the years, we've done a great job at, >> you know, we tried to fine-tune these budgets, and I'm sure there's always a little bit of wiggle, but >> for the most part, if it stays in there and comes back under free cash, I think we're comfortable with that. You know,
it's, you know, I'm I'm just of the mindset that we've >> we've we've cut and cut and cut. I'm with you. And >> I did not walk in here tonight thinking we were content. >> And you can only, you know, so for somebody to come up with a thing, well, we're going to cut 10%. Oh, really? Okay. You know, but
>> Well, here's how you know it's going to play out. The police department's going to say, "Hey, I got a I got a guy, right? >> I don't have a cruiser." Or, "I got a guy and the cruiser's broken. We we cut that line item." irregardless of which way we go. But I just and I don't see us doing a 10%.
>> I think if we look at free cash and look at a level funded budget and maybe some of this capital stuff doesn't happen. There are there's probably four or five things that have to happen. >> You know, two cruisers every year and the other like and unbeknownst to you guys or whatever the talk has been
instead of DPW getting a second truck, they're going to take the police department's truck. >> Um he figures you can get two years out of that. There's no really rot. I know the hood had a little rust in it at one time, but they can get two years mileage out of it without a problem. They get the bigger truck tow the boat and two
birds with one stone, right? Because the truck is only worth X regardless. So, that would work. They don't need a plow on it. It's a win-win. So, stuff like that is going to get us to the finish line. >> Yeah. Get us down. Okay. I I just I just want to know which Yeah. which which avenue we're heading down or if we're going to go down both avenues.
>> Um after the let the towns people decide, you know. Yeah, it's I I hate to do it that way, but I'm okay with it. >> We've just kicked the camp. Like, I don't see anything in there for doing the roads. So, you got to be a realist and say, "What are you going to do with the roads? We got everybody to talk to.
When are you going to fix our roads?" And I don't see a $20 million line item budget in there to fix the roads. Well, we can kick it down the road till next year. Then it's going to be 25 million. >> So, yes. And and the roads come down to 5 million a year realistically. If if
the town's people want to go to town meeting and decide to vote the budget down, >> that's fine. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I just But we can't I don't want to sit here and say we're just going to cut everybody 10% and we're going to move on till next year. I can promise you I'm not going to support a budget I
don't like because the pile is going to be this big. >> Yes. Next time. So, >> yeah. Okay. Just Yeah. I'm not going to support a budget that we can't work. >> I wish there was more transparency and communication. >> There isn't. I hear you. and I'll get called out on the net tomorrow and
that's fine. You go. >> That's what they tell me. I got a lot of people riding on them though. Okay. Accounting >> your >> So, >> sorry Laura. Sorry. Whatever.
>> They have on here >> the annual audit went up $1,000. >> Nothing you can do about that. >> No, I understand that. Do you go out to bid on that periodically? >> The what? >> Audit. >> Audit. >> The Gatsby.
>> No, just the audit. >> It's the GASB though, right? >> No, the actual audit. >> Independent audit. >> Okay. >> I mean, generally speaking, >> yeah, >> I used to be an auditor and in our town, we would go out every three years, five
years. >> It's good to change. Okay. >> It just is good to change. Gotcha. Um, and if we haven't done it in five years, it's time to go out to bid for an audit. >> I I will look into that and I'll let you know how we do do that.
>> Okay. >> So, Elizabeth, can you make a note of that? You're going to make a whole separate sheet for me. >> I created that a long time ago. >> Thank you. I brought extra paper. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just because I will get you those answers and and we'll find out what we are doing. Mhm.
>> Um, replacement of a county copier 181 1920. So it's what eight years old? >> Had nine miles on it. >> Yeah. >> That a paper printed. >> So that was something we probably tried
to keep in as a capital item. >> And the cost of fing it was cheaper than the lease. That was one of your questions. Yeah. How do how do >> That's one of my questions. >> How do we do it, Laura? >> We generally buy them outright. >> Okay. >> I don't think we've
as a town have leased any of the copiers. >> Not something we do. >> Yeah. Not something >> is by the paper. I mean, we were talking upstairs about toner and all that. How does that? >> So, with the copers, you buy them outright and then um there's an annual maintenance agreement that we pay per
page, but it covers the parts of the copier, right? The owner, the part. >> Right. Right. Okay. >> There's a few things that it doesn't cover, but for the most part, >> it's a good deal. >> Is it color? >> Ours. >> Ours is color.
>> Okay. We tried to do more most in black and white. >> Yeah. But you have it as an option in case something had to get done done in color. >> Yeah. Because it is cheaper to use your own than having to pay somebody. >> Yeah. So, >> okay, we're on to assessor. >> Good.
>> The only question was the reveal consultant. What it is? You can make a note of that, Elizabeth. And mapping maintenance. That must be that the program to do the um >> areas. >> Yeah. The the maps
>> the maps itself, >> which which you have to do. I mean, we're into that for several hundred,000. So, you have you have to maintain it. So, >> and they are it looks like level level funed 27. Yep. So, they are level funded.
And then you go over there salaries, >> you know, >> we don't really do much with them. >> Assessor and he is going to be going out and looking at the majority of the properties in town. >> That's going to come up under capital as soon as we >> Oh, capital.
>> So, next page, next page. I'm sorry. >> So, salaries first. They're looking to, which we don't really get involved with, but maybe we should start um they're looking to reduce hours for one person, add them to the other person that you guys saw at the meeting on Saturday. >> Yeah. >> And my question, of course, was that's
all well and good as long as we're actually training someone from the bench. >> You know, I know I didn't really get a qualified answer out of that, but um but that's what that was about. And then they have changed vision web hosting.
It's in the IT budget now. They have property records online through our GIS. We no longer we no longer this link. >> That's talk. >> They don't need it. >> I get it. >> The fee is for over 4500 to be eliminated.
>> Okay. So make a note that we make sure when we get to the IT budget that's eliminated. And then they have capital. So that's what they were talking about. 150,000 for two years to have someone come in and uh look at everything. They did
onethird of it this year as a driveby. Um I keep remembering how much we have to spend and I understand that the money will come back hopefully, you know, with the new surveys, but I don't know why they just
can't do two more years of drivebys. I understand they don't catch all of it. Mine went up 120,000. They caught something. So, and I'm not alone as far as how much our valuations went up in town. >> Okay. But our valuations go up, but
still we can only increase taxes by two and a half%. >> Well, the mill rate has to go down, right? >> Right. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is this is not adding any more money >> revenue >> to the for us >> at the end of the day. It's just shifting it around to the appropriate
people who should own more. And so it's just a shift. So this $150,000 isn't really generating anything for us. >> It will generate some. Okay. Every every nine years they are actually mandated to go around and do like a total rebell.
That's the deal. Okay. And customarily what we did on the board of assessors is like every three years you did you you just did like a quick review and where your values got you know bumped up a little bit but to stay under the cap you had to drop your drop your mill rate. Okay. But every nine years you have to
go through it. So and I asked that question at the last meeting because some of the stuff uh he was talking about new new growth. A lot of it is not new growth. is just going to be to get what you've got on your property aligned
to what you said you have and what we're going to tax you for. Okay? So, there is going to be some net gain on there. Um, but this this $150,000 basically the state mandates that we do it once every nine years and I think we're past that. I've been off the board of assessors for
a few years, so but I think we're past that. It actually needs to be done. We are going to capture some money from it, but it'll also keep us in line with what the state mandate says we have to do. Otherwise, if the state steps in, then we're going to be really really in trouble. So, but did we sub that out
every nine years or do we do it in house? >> Well, it's it's tough to do it in house because we don't have the people. They've they've cut so many people out of the office and we customarily always sent two people out. We never sent anybody out because we have women up
there. So, we never sent anybody by themselves. we always set two. So now you end up with a staffing problem back here at the office. >> Okay. And then you get a different set of eyes looking at it. So um I think it's something that probably needs to be
done. Uh we're not going to uh it's it's just it is what it is. >> I don't know if we're doing it at a reasonable cost because it's like I said, it's not really generating more than >> the >> the two and a half% plus you know. So,
it needs to be done because I know when I looked at mine, I had a neighbor who hasn't been looked at in 11 years. So, we need to ensure that every property is being looked at. And this is more for the town's people to just make sure it's broken up equitably. >> Right. Right.
Basically, what it will do is if they if they do find something and they add it on to your valuation, it all So, what it'll end up doing is somewhere down the line if they find another $2 million worth of valuation that we didn't have.
But, they're going to have to drop the mill rate because we have to stay under the levy. >> Like I said, we need to watch what we pay for this. It does need to be looked at, but if we can do this for $100,000 instead of $150,000, we should be considering that, >> right? No, I I agree. But it is
something has to be. We just have to come up with a dollar figure. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And I agree. So, and I don't know how many outfits there are out there to do it that are capable of doing it. >> And you're still going to have people, they're going to hang a tag on your door and go, "We'd like to come in and inspect your property." It's like, "Get
off my property before I call the police." And that's okay. And then you just send them a really big tax bill and then they have to let >> I would like to believe we wouldn't do that. >> Well, we did. That's what we do. If you let that's that's what's equitable. That's that's
>> sounds pretty tyrannical actually. >> It is. But it's the name of the game. You know, we only want you to pay your fair share. >> Well, and I I agree with that 100%. Right. Exactly. >> Right. >> But if you won't let there's common ground, I would think on both sides. So that's something we could discuss,
but yeah, that's something needs to be done. >> So that's the first capital item that we that you can make a list for. Do we have the capital list? >> Yeah, it's in our pile. Yeah, >> in the pile. >> No, it was under the minutes. I think it's that right there.
>> The blue one. >> You should just >> You're going to have to change this up a little bit. We were okay with the copier and we'll put um 350,000
question. Yeah, question mark. It's not a said question mark. >> Okay. And the other part of that was the personal property tax. Yeah. For 20 18 to 22. Yeah. You're going to give us the same speech. >> Nope. No. >> I'm done.
>> We did make the comment though that his real number was 26. >> Yeah, I got 26 here. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. 26,000 to do that. So, we'll put a question mark next to that change. Okay.
All right. Assessor. Okay. Treasurer Ka actually no additional changes. So she's able >> and then you have the short >> her office space for like a year now already. >> Yep.
>> So this this should be pretty accurate breaking out the cost between >> the treasur and All right. >> Yep. Do you see any room in approvement? >> No, I just wanted to make sure. >> Yeah, I think that's why she has that's why she was
>> She did drop it a little bit. >> She did drop it a little bit. >> Yeah, she Yeah. 15,55. >> Oh, yeah. 14 >> 145. So, yeah, she did drop it some. And when it comes to the short title detail report, what you have and you
have the next one, me and Paul sat down with her and went over this in great detail. Unfortunately, the way the laws have changed, the the some of this stuff, by the time you go after it and have an auction and pay everyone off from the
auction, this is you're lucky if you break even. So they those she's been told, you know, through her her powers to be on the state level that someone that you just don't go after and unfortunately just sits there and it keeps acrewing debt
from taxes not being paid but they're not the lands vacant or just or non-buildable. It's just really weird stuff. So if I if you're if you live next to any of these, you might have a shot again, I guess. >> So we can't go after the $97,000.
>> They have wings on that. Yeah, it's don't Orleans take precedent. >> Well, yes, they do. We in the end we will end up with our money, but uh like we said, me and Joe sat down with her and about the time that they go to go through the whole process, the state
keeps coming in and changing stuff. So before they get it done, it's like, uh damn. So we have to go back to the drawing board. So I mean consequently somewhere down the line we'll get the money but no one can tell you will it be next week or two years down the line
>> the property we're talking about is it somebody that passed away and it's like in the state or something >> they're there but right right now that property is up for sale and once that sale goes through obviously they cannot close >> without paying us without paying us. >> Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, we have we have
our hand on it, but we can't pull the money in until it's done. And as long as the state would stop changing every year, it seems like somebody must have it in with them because they keep changing how you have to go about it. So, just about the time you get it all set up to go do it, the state changes
the law and you're so in the meantime, you're sitting there acrewing interest. We will get the money eventually. Some of it's probably not recoverable. I know a lot of these properties and you'd be better off to give it to the neighbor >> and get taxed on
>> and just take the money from it because and we did that several years ago down around the lakes. There were several 25 foot wide parcels on a lot of the little roads around the lakes >> and we were carrying them on the books and finally went to Carl and we sat down and says, "You know what? Why don't we
just go to the neighbors and the first neighbor to go to a lawyer and do the do the deed you can have the property because we weren't getting any tax on it anyway. So the first one to get to a lawyer and say I want to take this land good you can have it now it's on the tax rules. So, it's it ends up being a tough
situation, but we'll get the money. >> And on page two, a lot of these that are high dollars are in the warps that either being sold or coming to terms with the parents. So, she didn't seem concerned on any of
it. She had an answer for every one of them, too. >> Yeah. It's it isn't for lack of action on her part. It's just that it is what it is with the lawyers and stuff. >> Yeah. some I mean I like some of those numbers are so high I'm like so they just honestly didn't pay tax 10 years right >> and it's okay
you know I get a notice after a week um but anyways there's yeah things are happening with those pieces legal advertisement doesn't have anything >> um clerk >> you know can I if you go back to the list I just have a question if if you
look at the second page that has a dozen people the short title detail report. >> Okay. >> Why would you have if the person didn't pay in 2023? >> How the hell could he pay in 24 and 25? >> Oh, you see,
>> right? >> Yeah. >> Isn't it the oldest money gets paid first? And if he's not there for 24 and 25, how come? >> I don't know. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> I don't get it. >> He made a Yeah.
Either he made a a payment plan. >> Yeah. But you still pay the oldest. >> You would think so. Yeah. That could be a misprint. >> I don't get that >> because it wouldn't be fair to the taxpayer either. You're charging them interest. >> Yeah. >> Something older that's already higher with other interest on it. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So that's not I mean >> so Elizabeth make a no please. >> We can all have an issue and you know >> Yeah. >> have a little hiccup. >> Which one was that, sir? I mean, oh, >> I live on Fred Jackson Road and I see two people there and 22.
>> Yeah. >> But there's then wouldn't it be 23 and 24 and 25? >> Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> I'll check on it. >> Okay. >> Unless that's the day that that that's the year that they started. I'm looking at some of the principal do. Forget the
interest and there's no way that's one year property taxes for some of these. >> You think it's accumulating? >> Yeah, I think that's the first year. It could be potentially be like the non parole date or something. >> Yeah, still ask.
>> Yeah, I think you should ask, but I think that's probably >> Yeah, I need to clarify the report. Yeah. All right. Where are >> yours is based on how many elections she has and >> and there's a few this year I think.
>> Yeah. The explanations had it. Yeah. Yeah. We're not touching those. Requesting additional 1,200 for compass travel. Brian University, which is a requirement for her through
the town. So, yeah, I'll touching that. And then five year section 2829 this total is 29 and we we're working with the county to come up with a list hopefully by the end of this uh budget season that'll have
all of our future five-year requests on one piece of paper by the year because I know a lot of you give the book back and we don't know until next year what the what's on there. So maybe that'll get loaded up to the new website. So, who knows? And uh people can then look and
complain about something four years out and all >> because there's not enough going on now. >> Oh, it's all good. >> All right. So, that's all it still election registration. Same thing, right? Because there's more.
Yeah. Do we have early voting here? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And this is that's included in this. >> Uh, no. There Well, for the town election, there is no early voting. There's there's absentee voting. >> Yeah. >> But there is no early voting for that.
But you do have a state primary and I think it's September. And then we got the state election in November and that will probably have early voting. Early voting. >> Okay. And thing remember too is they sent out
cards where you can opt in for like absentee ballot for the rest of your life type of a deal. So it it does put a pretty big burden on the town clerk's office cuz they they have to send all that crap out and but you know so some people are like I don't feel like
leaving my house so just send me a b you know where they they're trying to get away from that to get the people to show up on the day of the election and physically want to vote but the state mandates certain things so our hands are tied so yeah >> why would we have police in that aren't
the police on regular duty do we know We need extra. >> We have We have two two extra that are at the polling station all day. One out in the street for traffic and one inside. >> And I think normally during the day we have two to three officers on normally.
So we wouldn't be able to pull two to do that. >> Yeah. If there's an accident. >> But a caveat on that is we have to have an officer in the polling place. If we have to open up a voting machine, the police officer has to witness it because he's an unimpeachable witness. So if
something happens and I have to open up a boarding machine, I have to have a police officer there to witness it when I open up the boarding machine. >> Okay. You're still doing it? >> Yeah. >> So that's it's part of the deal. >> Okay.
>> And at the the end of the night when at 8:00 when the polls close >> at 8:00 the police officer goes and stands at the end of the line. So, anybody that's in front of him gets to vote. I don't care if it's 9:00 at night, but he has to be there for that.
And we need them. And if anything happens within the within the polls, >> right, >> we call the police officer and he escorts the person or does if somebody comes in naked and wants to vote, we let them vote. Then they say, "Go out the back door." >> But I had a hat on last time.
>> It didn't matter. >> Yeah. And Yeah. So it's a lot of this stuff is kind of mandated stuff in New York, but it it's like we have to have them there because >> certain things happen and number one, we need an unimpeachable witness in case we have to open up the voting sheet.
>> Yeah. You don't want anybody question >> which we customarily don't have to do. But I think coming up, I think they said in the November election, there might be two ballots that many questions might be on there. >> Yeah. >> So the voting machine might fill up. >> You know what? The voting machine fills up at 4:00 in the afternoon. We have to
open that machine up and take all the ballots out of it. We need a police officer standing there to witness it and then we have to seal those ballots in a box, tape it, and that box has to stay next to the voting machine until voting
is over. I'll go into that later because we did have a meeting with the state election office. >> Got that's the reason for that. I think during co I volunteered and my job was out in the parking lot to tell you you can't wear this in here because of what
it says and you can't wear that because of what it says and then laugh I'd say the officers are on the Coleman he's going to tell you >> and he'll mean it I didn't get any problem bottles or anything for just lectures >> and she does state in 2028 it'll go back
down to one election y Sorry. >> Program operations for 2027. Two new programming feed paths. So both pads are approved. This is for the programming fee which is 300 per election event for FY2027. We have three
elections. So it would be 900. There is no charge for annual or special town meetings. >> Can you speak to that? >> Yes, I can. So, right now we use the books. So, if you walk in to vote, we use the books. >> Okay. You walk in, you don't have to show any ID. You have to state your
name. We had we had a we had a class last week with the lady from the Secretary of State's office that runs the elections. She's a lady that walks in unannounced and go, "You're doing this, this, and this wrong." Very good. It's three-hour class upstairs. Um so,
um they're very adamant to like where you have to state your name and address. The person at the table has to state your name and address back to you. >> It's a it's kind of a >> redundant, >> you know, cumbersome thing.
>> Um the pads, polling pads, I think there's a thing before state legislature now. It is going to pass in the next year or two. We are going to have to have these pads. So, you're going to walk in, you're going to hand your driver's license. You still have to state your name and address, but you're going to
hand your driver's license to the person at the desk. They're going to scan it and then they're going to repeat everything back to you. It makes everything a lot cleaner because we don't have checkouts like we used to. Remember before CO, we had checkouts. In actuality, the city of Boston still has
to check out or they you have to check in and check out. >> A police officer checks you out. It's a Boston police officer at the checkout desk. >> Okay? We don't do that. We just do a checkin. Um sometimes our numbers don't balance. We go to the voting machine,
355 people voted at that machine. The girls go through their books or the guys, whoever happens to be there, and they only come up with 353. Well, which two voters did you miss? You'll never know because they've been here and gone. So, we really need to keep this in the
budget to get those pads. I mean, it's, you know, $13,000, but if we don't do it this year, within a year or two, it's going to be statemandated. We're going to have to do it. So, we might as well just get ahead of the ball and get to things and then they can use them at town meeting. the same thing. You walk
in the town meeting to check in. Boom. Everything's so it it it just makes everything a lot cleaner, makes it a lot easier for the town clerk, makes it easier on the people checking in. We did have a screw up one time where we had twins, Lynn and Lisa, came in, and this
was during CO and the person couldn't hear cuz they had the mask on. We had the plexiglass and they gave the girl a ballot. She voted. Well, she wasn't actually registered. It was her sister and 4 hours later her sister came in to vote and went, "No, you've already
voted." "No, I didn't." "Well, some Oh, was that my sister?" when she wasn't registered to vote. We actually get in a lot of trouble for doing that and there's a mountain of paperwork we have to fill up. So, that that really tidies it up for the town clerk and the people
working the pools. Um it's $13,000. It's not a lot. It'll be something very easy to cut, but it's it's right there. We can see it coming. They might go ahead and leave it in the budget and get it >> and the company might jack the prices up once it is once it's going. Yeah. Once
it's mandated, it's going to go up and then it can't get it. So, >> exactly. >> Pick your poison. >> We'll pay for it now. >> Are you guys comfortable leaving that in? >> Yes, I am. Yes. said election cost 128 fees
2031 it would be around you know that's a fair question yeah you know what I'll make it a point to be Okay. Conservation level funded
money. They have money in conservation trust. They have 66,000 in Lake. Wow. Why did go up 400%. >> What's that? >> Why did maintenance go up from 4,200 to 16,000?
>> Well, that's the request, but we're only level funding them, right? >> Is that what? >> Yeah, it's not level funded. Oh, we we do level funding of minus 10%. >> What are we doing? >> Well, we haven't been told about the 10% yet.
>> Okay. Cuz they're asking for 16. It's a huge increase, >> but that So, they did show a level funded number, right? And then what their request is, they would like it to be 16,000. >> The way I see this is we level fund it. >> And we don't, you know what I mean?
>> That's kind of what they did. We had an extra line cuz we didn't do the we did things a little different. So, I guess that's their request. Doesn't mean they're going to get it. We don't have it. >> And a lot of that, you know,
some of it got mowed, some of it got hayed. There's there's more to the story than just a line item, right? >> When it when you start peeling it back. >> Um >> Yeah, because two of their line items are zero. >> Yeah. And in 2025, >> they spent 1,800 in lane maintenance. In
2026, they're at 2100. So, they didn't need 16,000 a couple years ago. >> What's going on? >> So, we'll level. >> Maybe it's title. >> That does it's on the 27,000
per tree. But when you look at their conservation gift grant revolving accounts, there's 8,000 in a conservation trust. There's 8,000 in CC conservation trail projects. There's 3,000 for field maintenance.
And then local lake permitting, there's 66,000. >> What's that money for? >> There's 8,000 on wetlands applications and conservation wetland fees is 1,600. So if they really needed that kind of money, there's got to be a way they can pull it out of their own revolving accounts. >> Yep.
>> Sometimes I think they for some folks forget they have evolving accounts sitting there whacker might come out of that, right? >> Is that is that lake >> is that doc >> dock fees and that stuff or is that where that comes from? >> Kind of.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think it's lake permitting permitting. Yeah. >> Yeah. So they wouldn't be able to well use those the link. >> Elizabeth, could you make a note for me? >> I just want to send the email out to conservation asking them where do they
spend their money on their gift grant revolving accounts just so we get a better understanding. >> Conservation surveillance cameras for north conservation area. >> Yeah. Can they use? >> Yeah, that's the that's the question.
>> I mean, they've got more than enough. >> Yeah, >> I think we made a mistake when we did the knock boxes at um what we did for reserve fund transfer because I think had we looked deeper, they had a few accounts with some money in them, >> right, >> that they could have probably fell.
Yeah. But >> okay, >> you know, >> so maybe that's another list that we could have the I know we just talked about an account. >> Well, that's why it's actually here now, >> right? An account, but also what is its purpose? >> Yeah. What its purpose is, right? >> So we can remind them um that has a
purpose. Use it there. >> Yeah. See, >> it reminds us too. >> Yeah. Because we can't remember all this. >> No. >> All right. So they got priorities which are the supplies for new open space management planning committee tree work and conservation properties to
address hazardous trees and protect public safety. Yeah, you would think that'd come right out of a revolving account. Surveillance cameras for North Pond Conservation Area. >> You want to wait and see if this comes out of their grants and anything else? Yeah.
Oh, same with the weed whacker. Yeah, >> capital item $352, which I get, but if you it just when you're sitting on those other numbers, >> you know, and then five years 2028, they're
looking at they're redoing their world famous um Rising Corner parking area improvements. Which one's Rising Corner? That's down by uh >> right next to Jimmy P. >> It's a quiet little area there. >> Yeah. Just don't go there when it's raining out this month. Oh, wait till
it's dry. Then it's a great parking area to go there when it's wet. When it gets wet. Yeah. >> So, what do they want to do? Paint it. >> Oh, maybe put in gravel or Yeah, I know. Perhaps they're probably going to get the the flow of water to go better.
>> That's bridge, right? Because nowhere. >> Yeah. Accessible bags. There are no objections. >> We got the conf. >> I just questioned this. Um, can you make a note? Was it about the street acceptance? I don't know what we're
doing this year with it. I know last year there was a there was a reason it was in the I don't know if we have any more left that we have to accept or >> I think I think there was a a list of things, but I don't >> Yeah.
>> Well, had they come in front of us, we probably could have asked them. >> They sounded like they were finishing them up last year when we gave them. >> Yeah, but I >> honestly I think every year they, you know, when more pops up that it's just the way it is. We complained about something in one. >> All those roads down by the lakes that
just really never were accepted. And >> some of them >> they have 14,000 >> community planning 13. >> Okay. So they're looking for a plotter, but that's not priority three, but they have one. We building a paper
years ago and I think it's sitting in the clerk's office now. Maybe she uses it when the prints come into or whatever. >> Y I'm sure they can continue. I'm sure they can print off of it from upstairs, >> right?
>> So that's a no. >> Yeah. >> Some of that can be piggy back to the assessor's office. Oh, he's got a big machine in there, too. Well, no, but they might be able to to to have access Yeah. >> to the ones that do their mapping,
right? They might be able to generate maps for other, you know, Absolutely. So, >> yeah. >> Other departments, >> what are the fields? >> What? I just didn't know which were you deciding between level funded or department or where this kind of going
>> level level funded but I have a question about that 20,000 about street so it might go down 20,000 >> me and Elizabeth are going to bang out some emails tomorrow >> with the conference and travel >> for
yeah I highlighted that >> planning I'm going to say I think he wrote something up too late in there. >> He didn't spend anything last two years and all of a sudden they want to bump it
up to 15. >> But it's a new >> it's become a full-time position >> and it's a new person >> and it's a planner. Okay. >> That answers that question. So I'm not even looking at three requests, right? I got you.
So I want a thousand more for that. >> Have a toll in request, but then find out about the street acceptance and >> yeah, >> I mean he's got to go. He's got to go. We can't, >> right? >> We're not gonna stop education. >> I just hope they actually go. >> If you find if you find out about
acceptance, does that really need to be 20 grand or can that be 19? And that's how you level fund your budget, >> right? So, let's just do that. >> Let's give him the thousand. We'll drop that to 19 and I'll still question the 19.
>> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Street acceptance went down to 10, right? Who knows? >> Usually they list the roads and what they're thinking. >> You say the person's new though, right?
>> Well, not Yeah. new but not >> not spanking >> the seat's comfortable now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> For the for the capital that venture doing >> the ventur in >> but we talked about if we can level a fund and still use free cash and get
somewhere we're going to do it. >> I don't think you can level fund give them all the toys the extras and you know what I mean? Definitely >> right. Is that magic number 670,000? >> Definitely. >> Make sure we play that man of scratch
ticket 670 first last year. Economic development. >> They are the same. >> I'm sorry. >> I'm reading. >> Yeah. I'm on board. I'm sorry. They
haven't spent his money yet. Yeah. So, >> and it's tiny. >> We hardware software zoom supplies. >> It's a weird line item. It's in supplies, but it's it looks like it's for
say social media Southwick and meeting with business owner. So those really supplies related to those things or is that >> not supplies? >> Yeah, >> but I guess when you only have two line items should this be if they doing social
media and they are doing should they have >> Yes, they should have a separate line. That's what we get in trouble. We package things up and then we all leave the board and seven years >> there's a problem. >> Can we create a different line item for
that >> or we can kind of work on renaming the website hardware? Yeah, it's social. Yeah, it's kind of >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, he still has or they still have a website. Um,
>> Mr. Dy called our office a couple of weeks ago. I think it was last week and he was talking about the website. Um, so they still have that. I don't know, >> but I don't know if we can reword it to be to
>> website, social media, you know, >> just be also marketing. I don't know what Southwick and Bloom is. So those like if social media and South and Bloom are marketing, we might just want to rename it social media marketing and then that would the bucket for both of
those. >> Are they on the new website? Maybe. >> You guys seen the new website? You should check it out. I haven't yet, but I guess there's a new one up and running. Yeah, I saw it thankfully yesterday. All right. So, we'll see if we can
adjust that verbage. And where are you with that anyways? So, we've done all of those events before I need money to meet with a business owner. >> That could be the supplies. >> Yeah.
dat. >> Okay. >> So, I guess they want to come to our meeting. >> So, let me know tomorrow in the emails, guys, if you're available next Tuesday. >> I'm okay. >> Yeah, we'll still email us. So, she send email out and I'll respond to her. Got
it. Right. So, what do we want to do from with a,000 to 3,000? Oh, no. It was 1,900, right? >> They can, 1900. They want to go to 3,000. So, they want to go up 1,100,000
>> and then Okay, so new change and then they want to change it to that's what they're trying to do. Social media, thousand, south, thousand, meeting with Anybody leave it like it is? >> Yep. >> Level like it is.
>> Yeah. >> But still see if they need some changes in the >> We can change the verbage. We just leave it at the >> better understand the website know about the adjustments level funded. >> Well, still level funded just matter
where it goes. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Because right now it's showing nothing but >> got questions. I have questions to ask. We don't need any this year. There's no additional request changes. I wouldn't think so.
Okay. Police and dispatch. >> Police are then we got another packet here. I think it's packets. Okay. This is not all maintenance.
>> Okay. P this replace as well. Just the whole questions. So he's he's just on the one page, two pages. So what has changed? So that show was 26.
So far operations contracts are the request to go on while you're here. We're just going to pick your brain if you don't mind. Just makes a lot easier on us. So why are contracts pulling up? contracts are going to be phasing out IMC which is the
computer needed dispatch part of the current system there's a admin section with the new software there's not going to be an admin section so we need something that's going to do our payroll or details stuff of that
nature so it's an additional $10,000 for that new program. >> Okay. So, it's only going up six. >> Yeah.
Okay. So, the same uniforms are going down. No, I'm sorry. They went up up as a new employees bulletproof vest. So is that a one and done? >> So bulletproof vests are every five
years we have to get new ones for everyone. They're required by law. >> Yeah. Yeah. Is that all of them though? >> That's not all of them. Okay. >> We've got 23 full-timers. Another eight part-timers who all have vests. So unfortunately because of when certain
people were hired, it's not even >> they don't expire the same. >> Correct. They're not evenly distributed. So you might have a year where we replace 10, right? Only a year replace one. We're in a in a heavy year unfortunately with place and I believe nine or something.
>> So you know me I'd love to see that separated out each year so we know right because after the cycle of five years it stays in your budget but you're not buying best anymore. >> I got so if we could separate that out I appreciate it. Just so we and then that
way too you can say I need six next year and boom we don't even argue the point. Does that make sense, Laura, or am I overthinking? >> No, it makes >> Okay. Oh, sorry. So, we'll separate that out. Just like you do with the rifles.
P2. We trimmed that a while back because we needed to purchase something. Copier was it for copier? Yep. >> $4,000 out of $1,000. >> Yep. >> That money you never put back in, >> right?
>> Pretty oldfashioned question is did you need it? >> We always hate it. >> Oh, I know. >> I understand. >> Okay. Just got a quick question on the medical supplies. Um, >> being that you and the fire department
basically use the same type of medical supplies, >> is there any reason why like we have to get medical supplies for the fire medical? Is there like a common place where the cruisers could go and resto from the fire? So, unfortunately, I don't have an
answer for you on that one. Other than that, I know a lot of the fire department supplies are reimbursed through their handlance and insurance. >> Okay. Well, I mean, because basically you guys are both going on the same call when probably you guys are the first guys to get there.
>> And I'm just thinking that we've already got kind of like medical supplies, you know, like if the cruiser went to fire, hey, I use this much. I mean back in the day when you >> we uh we used to go to medical calls a
lot of times we put the oxygen on people >> right yeah >> you know we use one of our masks at the end of the call we jump in grab the way we did it >> those days apparently were gone okay we don't put oxygen on as much as we
>> but >> um at some point it did say get your own mask I guess and where when that came in, I don't remember. >> Well, I'm I'm just, you know, kind of going down that road because if it if it was something that they could get from
the fire department because the fire department's going to build a patient. >> Well, one would beg to differ. They shouldn't be giving fire department a list of what they use it. So, they could build a patient, right? >> Right. Because we're eating that. >> Yeah. That's what I'm going down. Yeah. We end up eating it. We're
>> the fire department bills a patient and things could be paid. >> You think they'd reimburse you for your stuff? Yeah, >> Elizabeth is training money and others. >> Okay. Yeah. I just I just >> Anyway, just so I can ask. >> Yeah. >> No, you're right though, you know, >> because maybe someone didn't think about it. Maybe they didn't.
>> There's been, you know, people they've divided over the years and, you know, their stuff's for their stuff. >> There's new people and, you know, >> we're very fortunate because we have a lot of police, not a lot. We have a few good guys that are also came up through the ambulance >> and you know when they get on the scene
they're actually we're way ahead >> you know. >> Well when you see the stupid price they charge you for a mask it's like why should we eat it? >> No understood. Yeah. It should build back to the >> Exactly. Yeah. Get built for us. >> That'll be a nice conversation to watch. >> Okay.
>> When they look at me it's okay. Ammunition went up. Of course, it did. 0 0. So >> under your medical requirements, that's where you do some of your CPR
>> and the cards under that. >> CPR. >> So now you want >> training medical >> under that one. Okay. And now you want to just call them supplies. >> Yeah, I believe we look at calling
medical supplies and medical requirements the same thing. Combining. Is it just easier? >> Yes, >> because I love separation. I mean, at the end of the year, I like to know >> how much they spent on sprinkles. You
know what I mean? Like just >> it might be another piece of paper. >> Could be another piece of paper. >> Sunday and get the sprinkles and the hot sauce and >> you get everything. >> You get extra hot fudge. Are we okay combining line items?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Police gift account. Where do you use that for? >> Police gift account. >> Yeah.
How much? >> 8342 hours. Wow. the chief. >> No, you have to go a couple pages in your >> donations like when they donate. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I only replace the first two pages,
>> right? He's replaced first. So, >> so let's compress that first. >> On a side note, >> have you figured out if you can cut temple? And um no this is this is the new proposal that is handed out of >> I mean look looking at my budget what was done for this year looks like you
know we were after a 5% cut it looks like they came in more of 11 overall >> last year >> because of some of the things didn't go back in >> right >> if we were to take another 10% on top of 11% last year >> understood >> it's not a good spot to be in and I don't know how you look at that without
looking at it >> thought you wanted a few more years Okay. >> Just checking. >> All right. So, Same thing. That's just that.
No. Oh, so you're going by the minus 5% you made in 2026. Is that how I'm reading this, Chief? Which page you want? >> I'm on the I guess the first page after the two new pages.
Um, account name, police operations. Police Department operations. Take a look. Bus that one there. >> Can't see the power anymore. >> Yeah. FY26 budget.
>> FY25 FY26. FY26- something. Okay. So, yeah, this is the sheet I have Chris to make up with the percentage differences from here as well. >> Oh, okay. Okay. So, that just justifies what we talked about earlier. It's
what this is. Okay. Probably should have a title on this. >> No, you're good. I just didn't know where it was. Okay. Please get the commenting. You see the 911 grant staying without grant is actually that's for dispatch at
this point. So we have some money's left over from previous 2022. >> Oh wow. >> Some of that money is going to be ear march for the radio project. Good. Gotcha. The one we're working on now. Yep.
What do you do with the drug forfeite account? >> Again, it's a discretionary thing. Uh I know in the past we've used it on >> items like our indoor range we have upstairs, the Milo
machine. >> Yep. Y >> might use that. Um, other I guess I'll call them sort of wish list type. >> Yeah. Odd and ends. >> Yep. Yep. Police cruiser fund. What's that? >> Police cruiser fund. Basically a
revolving account set up for any pencil with us on the detail. >> Oh, okay. >> Charge $20 related items. Yep. Okay. >> That's nothing to do with the new the officer. There's no longer an
officer or how that works. He's in that other white car. That's not really a police car anymore. No, >> they get charged for that one, too. >> They do, but is that going on the same account? >> I know. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> Traffic control car. >> There you go. Traffic control. >> Thank you.
So, when you tell me traffic control card you could use some work, I can say, "Hey, there's a gift account for it." >> We're on the same page, Mike. Young man. All right. record operations
>> resource officer benefits. So if we move that to salaries, what does that do for you? >> Uh it puts it into the salaries and doesn't make it part of operations which sort of that overall number. >> So so the resource officer benefit
really is for salaries. >> Yeah, it's a combination of things, but some of it is salary related, but some of it is uniforms, his classes, his um Medicare, health insurance. So it
shouldn't I don't know where it should be. It's almost like a split. >> Yeah. Do you want I mean unfortunately now it's throwing off the bottom line number. So if you say I want a 5% cut, I can't touch that number at all. Whereas
I can touch every every other item within operations. >> But I don't think we have you we take it out of there. We don't ask you to I don't think you've taken the 5% off of that line item. >> We haven't. What I'm saying is that
numbers included with the calculation going down the page. >> It's because I think we ran it both ways >> with and without it >> because you have it set up without it right now. >> Um
>> it's not the end of the world. I just leave it. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't mind leaving some in there, but it's not all salaries. I would hate to put it all in there. Yeah, that's all. So, adjust accordingly. Cash contract. So that uniforms. So the increase. So operations, you're
just showing us what the change is. You're not It's not an extra 10,000, right? We've already talked about it for the vest up here. So you have the vest in here, right? Increase in uniforms for 10,000 required ballistic three vest year expiration. So
you have that number there, but it's also up top. So we're not doubling it up. >> Um you're talking >> police department um is operations. You have change uniforms increase in uniforms of 10,000 which we
understand about the the vest. We get it. >> But does that affect things when I see it over here at 486 or you just telling me that that's why it's going up? >> Believe we're just saying that's why it's going. >> That's an explanation. Okay. All this is really explanations of why you're doing
something correct. Okay. Thank you. And it talks about the printer again. Okay. And then adding petty cash $29 to your supplies. You never use petty cash?
>> I think that's back from the days when they used to charge for different little things like reports and stuff. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Being digital now. >> It's just Yep. >> Gotcha. >> All right. Capital items. So that's the five year.
So age, we talked about it on the Saturday. The defib. It's cycling out. The floor cracking we talked about. I witnessed it last year. It is, you know, rough for sure.
The cameras and the lock placement for we discussed that on Saturday, chief, will there ever be an end of shotgun replacement? >> Uh, we've been doing the rifle replacement currently. So, shotguns is the next thing >> is the next one. What's the difference
between a rifle and a shotgun? I'm not I'm not a hunter. I am not a hunter at all. >> Well, depends how fast you run. >> Oh, not fast. But I can weave and dump and roll. So, >> just a thanks for not answering that.
>> Okay. Yeah. >> I lost my vision. >> If you're wondering numbers wise, we have 10 shotguns right now. >> Okay. So, we got two years of that. Gotcha. Thank you. We talked about the cruisers. I got you guys up to date. We're going to
hopefully take their pickup truck, give it to DPW. They're going to leave some of the lights in it for them. They're going to take the stickers off for them. So, it's back to being just a black truck. And then they would get a a heavier duty towing vehicle for the boat. >> I heard you want to plow on us, you can
do your own parking lot. That's not true. >> Me, too. >> Yeah. This all right. replacement >> capital request. There's standard and there's new. >> Right. >> Um are we going to what are we going to be able to fund and what can't we fund?
>> Well, I don't know that's you know >> has the capital committee met? So the capital expenditure committee which is anything over $25,000 other we talked about the $100,000 and we did say that that could move forward
and really it came down to on that was if the existing system does go down we have no recordings and I think that's more of a legal issue along with everything else in life that comes with that with that and of course same with the key cards on the doors. I
know town hall wanted them last year and we probably should have done it. We wouldn't be having the antics we're having today. Um, but when it comes to police, it's once again it's a whole different world because they have prisoners and I need to get in and get out, right? There's no wait a minute, we're going to get to you. So that's So
we did approve the 100. We we said yes for it to go forward. We said yes to go forward for the cruisers. Normally we give you guys a sheet back with all the pros or all the yes and nos, but we didn't do the sheet this year. Um but everything else under 25,000
didn't come in front of us. >> Okay. What about the 425? >> Yes, we did. We we brought that forward too. >> So that's >> and I did so last year when they were talking about um redoing the locker rooms.
>> I got the whole 10-centent tour and part of it was the flooring and the uh and it's the old it's the old police stalls when they come in. So last year we talked over a pond in one of the floors. It was a beautiful pond. Was a bass. We had bass in it.
They ran out of money to fix the drainage and they stopped. So they finally found a few pennies and they finished the drainage. So now it because we laughed and said can't fix a floor if you got a pond in the middle of it. It doesn't make any sense. So they got the plumbing taken care of and the
floor is lit. The floor looks like the potholes on certain roads. How's that? All right. >> Dairy Lane. >> Dairy Lane. Yeah. And the police do have cones they can put on them. There's no doubt about it. >> But >> it's like they're playing the kids game.
>> Playing hopscotch. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it definitely needs to It's a tripping hazard in there. >> You know, we've done every other floor in that department. But that is that the last honestly the last thing left? >> Uh the old dispatch still needs to be done records. I think that's >> that's about it. Yeah. We've done
carpets, we've done the aisles, and we've done offices >> over the last four years, we think. Yeah. >> So, this is the last piece of that puzzle. Um, if we had to list it, I think your security is first. I think your cruisers are first, your security
is second, and then the floors would be the last piece of that if we had to really break it down. Would you agree, sir? >> For the big ticket items. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, what happens to all everything that's under $25,000?
>> Well, if we don't have any money, >> they don't get it. >> It's it's um it's a it's reality, right? It's a stark reality of of all these budgets. You know, I want to think the fire is the same way. He's got some stuff in there. And I mean, they're not
it's not, you know, do you need four tasers? Yeah, I I get it. Um they're they're wearing down the ones with the training and everything else. defib or I wouldn't want to be the guy that said I didn't replace it. We're an Asian community as they told
me. I could vouch for that. >> We're not included. Just everybody else. >> I don't know. You get up in the morning for some days. Um but yeah, the floor cracking. Can we can we patch it and and mud it up for a year or two? Sure we could. >> But then you're wasting money just to
put up what? Really? Just >> Yeah. But if we don't have the money, we're not wasting money. >> Well, >> you know what I mean? know, you know, we don't once again, we'd be further along in our budget and we would know more and and we could >> yeah, >> you know, >> it's one of those >> that's why, you know, number three will be the floor number one with cruisers.
Number two, actually, I think one they're both once cruisers and camera replacement. I don't you know, they're both a need. We get behind in the car deal and you know, ketchup's a is a nightmare when it comes to the cars and the building's 100 years old over here.
So, what do you expect? >> Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't right where they >> right, >> if it was in the corner under the cruisers, I don't think you have a discussion. But it's right where they got to go through every time, >> you know. So, computer equipment, the normal
16,000, replace your rifles is 11,000. So, yeah. I mean, I guess if we really don't have any money in the end, I'll go visit the chief and ask him which one, you know, I don't think it's our call to tell him what he gets. I
think we give him the dollars and he tells us, okay, now he's the one that's got to live with the sacrifices. >> Um, that's just my my take on it. >> Arrows are much cheaper. >> They are. Just saying. >> Yeah.
Back in the day, >> Russo. >> Yeah. I'm not I watched I watched freshman at a softball game last night. I can't understand how they get that speed. It's crazy
cuz they're young and we're just zoom. >> Okay. Capital items 20 28 29. I'm not going to pick on you, Chief, but while you're here, we're trying to do a capital list going forward for five years. So, when you say 2829, what are
you thinking? Like, if I had to put it in my list, you want on 28 or on 29. And same with um >> for each one of these. >> No. Yeah. I mean, you got 27 28, right? That's easy. We got we got that figured
out with you. But when I see 28 to 29, two workstations, $10,000 are going to last you 20 years. Do you want to see that on your 2028 or do you want to see that on your 2029? >> Well, depending where funding is, if it's uh if there's funding 28, if
there's not 29, >> you're not answering. Okay. So, do you want it on 28? >> 28. >> 28. >> That was did quite a bit of updating last year with stuff that um you were able for nothing. Yeah, understood. But we're trying to really do a good capital
projects list. And 27 to 30 for the five shotguns. That's just a normal upgrade again that you're looking at. >> Uh that would be >> a year. That's what the question was. Would it be yearly? 27, 28, 29, or 30? >> Depends how many we get for a year.
>> Okay. So I would put that down every year because he's not going to get what he wants every year. So we would see we do not we just break it down as two shotguns. And that's more for county because that was one of our questions on our new project. All right. Any other questions, guys,
for that packet? >> That thing the security fencing and gates it's listed under the five-year projection, but the year so I'm not sure. >> Hold on. >> I got a note. >> I got a note in here. We changed it to 28 on Saturday.
>> Oh, okay. >> I think I was thinking calendar year. Yeah, we did changes. >> Okay, thank you. >> Y >> Oh, security fest 27. >> Yeah, >> I'm sorry. >> And you have no quotes on any of that stuff?
>> Yeah. Who is out at this point? So, >> well, should you have a few minutes someday and you're in the right position, get folks, you know, go out of your way, but if someone because when we do that, you know, dollar value. I think the thought is we can look to 2029 and
go, "Wow, they want $6 million worth of >> You've seen the one on the locker room in the floor." >> Oh, I seen that one. And that Yeah, I didn't ask you for that one. >> Oh, yeah. We do appreciate that. It has a number with it.
Locker. So, can I say constable? Are we good with that? Pardon me. >> Yeah, I think we can spot it over. >> Are you leaning anyway on like level department?
>> He's up 20,000, right? And it's the 20,000 that we took the year before or something or year and a half before this. >> But are you doing that for all departments that took we took money away from? >> Um, no. No, we're not.
But of course their their thought process is we bought the copy or we didn't you know and it doesn't go back that has to be >> done that I know. >> So kids where you at up or down on the 20 >> up or down? >> I'm sorry. What?
>> $20,000 difference from the year before. >> Oh. >> And it was because we bought copers and stuff and we didn't put it back in which we don't when we take it out of line items up or down or you going to fold. Well, >> but weren't we just talk Wait, but hang
on. It's this Weren't we just talking that we caught? He already caught, >> right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> So, that cut was there, >> right? >> So, it's in here at the regular number that cut is in there. >> If you replenish the money, the
>> That's just what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to wrap my head around. So, he already cut. This would replenish. >> Replenish. And you went a year without it because I didn't catch it, >> right? Uh I'm for replenishing it. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> One up, two up. >> Replenish.
>> Replenish. >> Three up, four up. Yep. >> That new and I did that just to do that. >> Balance it out. >> Yeah. I mean, it's all good, but once again, when we get to the numbers, if we have to cut, we know we know he can live
off of that other number, right? >> Not that he wants to by any means, but law. >> Okay. So, the idea is to leave it in is what they said. >> You have that, Elizabeth? >> Yes. >> No, animal control still.
>> We can switch right to animal control if you're not. >> It doesn't matter. Yeah, we only got one. >> It was to the fire department though. >> Yeah, you made some. >> And for the people playing at home, um last year when the budget was done, it did get emailed to all departments
before town meeting. I know there's some misnomers that they didn't know what they had after town meeting. It does get emailed out to them just so we're on the same page. >> And the only >> All right. So, fire. >> Sorry, Joe. If I could interrupt.
>> Yes. The only thing um comment is on the dispatch. It's at the last page of police >> but we don't forget about it. >> 5050. >> Yep. It's the standard 50. >> Well, it's coming back into our budget.
>> Yes. >> It was it's been out. >> Yes. >> The IMA or Westfield that >> Yeah. >> Um >> that is back in regardless >> coming back into the budget. >> Yeah. It was paid through the grant, but
>> for a couple of years from now, we own it. >> We own it. >> We own it for 50 and I and I think it's kind of 50 moving forward for a while. I don't I didn't >> I know the IMA is actually expiring at the end of June. So, I'm not sure where
that's going at this point. >> But as of now, this coming year is is 50,000. is 50,000 and they're adding another town. >> Yes. So sadly. >> So hopefully it stays at 50. Yep. That's >> But yes, it is in there. Thank you. >> I just wanted to
>> Yep. >> You think it's working out okay, Chief? >> It's got its benefits in it. Actually, I'll go over all it's working out. >> Yeah, you seem more up on everything. Like I you can hear them talk about you know you got a call coming in the fire
at least or or the EMS and then you know a whole minute later there's the address but they're already rolling. It is definitely a lot different than what we have with the same seat. >> Yes. >> Right. >> Yes. >> Okay. We are in.
>> So up top and then operations. Yeah. Yeah. See that? Right. >> Just move things around in the line items. >> What's that? >> Just move things around in the light. Nobody's still >> But he still came under.
>> Yeah. >> What? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Remark all the bills in for the bunk bedroom. Do you know? >> Okay. Right. Well,
>> I just see there's a little room left though. I didn't know. Yeah. All right. Let's talked about that on Saturday. >> The old one is 27 years. >> Not seiz. >> What's that?
>> But it's not seaweed where they've been betting. >> Oh, no, no, no. But I my notes right. The other one's 27 years old. >> So, we're okay with the bow. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Officers are the officers. And then
we got 28 and 29 and 32. The engine one though looks like it came off and went into this year's budget, >> right? >> Is that is that correct? Or is it? >> Yeah. Well, that's the whole >> Was that intentional? Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They would like to
start that process, whether it was a deposit due, whatever, but they would like to start that. They have a committee together now trying to package a truck up to their likings. >> So, what is is that going to be presented at 900,000 and then >> I think it's a million.
>> Okay. >> And not getting cheaper. >> Yeah, I think it was at a million. But the good news is if they can lock something up, the price is locked up. So they say, I know years ago with the ambulance, it went up 100 grand overnight and if you didn't pay it, the next guy was going to grab it from you.
>> I think that's calmed down now is what they're saying. >> So plus you're looking at like a three-year timeline. So you wouldn't have to put down the entire million on what they would like for like a down payment. >> So you would have just got to get it get it going
like three years out before you see the truck. So yeah. >> So are we good with that? Are we marking as >> Yeah, I think we're moving it forward. Yep. >> And that's why we're talking about the list, right? Because they got four things in 28. Well, now three, right?
80,000 45,000 7500. Yeah. Okay. EMS. Yeah. Looking for three people. Well, three fired day. So, I got four people. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's scary because you we
finally got to the edge of the cliff. >> Yeah. >> And we started that project to go paramedic. No ifs or buts about it. So Laura, when they when they when they built it for the ambulance service, what does that revenue go back into? Does that go back to the general funds?
>> No, there's a ambulance um revolving side um and then we take out some money um out of that account and move it over to the general fund to partially fund the EMS budget. >> Okay. Yeah.
So we're not 100% on EMS budget funed but 200 off. >> No, >> they at least generate revenue. >> Generating revenue. >> If you do hire the people, they are generating some of what we're paying.
>> It's not as it's not as much as you would think. you know, just the revenues from year to year are increasing, but not >> it's not a it's not a funource. >> It's not basically self-funded.
>> No, it's not. >> No, it's not a selfunded source. >> And the idea is those three officer those three medics whatever are or four would then complement every shift, >> right? >> And quite honestly get the third ambulance probably running, >> right? >> And joking but not joking, you know,
three years ago we have two. One was always a backup. There's two running every day now, >> right? Is that as all our ambulances are running? >> What's that? >> Are all our ambulances running? >> Yes. Yes. >> If we staff them, they're running. >> We have two two that are paramedic level. One is only EMT level.
>> The third one. Yeah. >> But what he's doing is as equipment gets replaced, they're moving some of the equipment maybe out a year or two early from the paramedic level ambulance to the EMT ambulance >> to get it to get that up to a third >> the full paramedic level. So yeah, and
what you see now if you know I work in town, so you'll see the ambulance go by and then you'll see the white truck go by. So a lot of times maybe the driver is an EMT of the ambulance, but the medic is in the truck so he can shoot to whatever other events happening, you know, as it moves on. So they got a
really cool system down and they're they're definitely hustling. Um, but like everything else just grows, right? that third ambulance will be running and then next you know we're trying to replace two ambulances four years from now because they'll they'll be due. >> Hopefully there's no more accidents and
we keep our cycle. >> We had it going great for a while there. >> We really did. >> Carl would make me put money aside. >> Yeah. >> As a selectman and when the next ambulance was due, we would always have like 250,000 towards it. So it was never a big blow.
And then when I got hit, of course, the insurance is a whole another nightmare. And nope, we we need it now. Well, unfortunately, what we don't do is we know that we have to keep buying fire trucks. So, if you put away $150,000 a year into an account, right, you might not buy a fire truck that year. The next
year, you put another $150,000, right? Now, you got 3,000 300. But, see, the thing is that we don't do that. So, every time you need a fire truck, they come in, they need a million dollar fire truck. My god, it's going to, you know, and but that's what happens. You know, Connecticut operates different when their fire departments, they get x
amount of money a year and they can put money in the bank and save it and then the next year they put more money in the bank. When five years down the road it comes time to buy a firet truck, it's like, "Hey, guess what? We got the money right here." They buy the fire truck. >> We don't we do it a little different and that's why we keep getting hit of these
million-doll things and we're sitting here tearing our hair out how we're going to pay for it. You don't even have to pay for it one way or the other. So if we ran our home budget like we run this budget, you know, you know, 5 years down the line needing a roof, so you start saving up some money. So, but we
don't do it that way. So we get caught. >> So 2 and a half% and what they're showing us for new growth, we're at 670. >> Yeah. >> You want to take some 670 and put it in fire. What do you think? >> Well, well, we could do we could do it for that. We could we could actually
pass some potholes. We could do a lot of things. Yeah, >> it's all and you're right. And you know, can you can can you start saving? Yeah. I mean, if our free cash number starts going down and our taxes are going to go up anyways and >> Yeah.
>> You know, I don't know, you know, whether it's 50 grand or 100 grand or, >> you know, and I think that's their intention with the free cash, right? We could throw some in the account and we're doing great. But the cliff is there. I don't I you know, >> the last parachute you gave me didn't work. >> Didn't work. Sorry. Sorry.
>> I don't want to know what you're giving me. I do like him. >> Yeah, they all said, "All right." >> So that's interesting, right? So their EMS operations was 1815 and >> this 1777. >> Yeah, it's working chief. It's weird
like they're giving us lower numbers. >> Sorry state. >> We want to be part of the EMS budget. you said he's going and I don't know what they're I mean I'm sure these trimmed here or there but see if you get your medical supplies from them. Damn we can get that under
keys for you. >> Yeah, that's what they all say. Okay. So this capital that was the laptop. >> All right. And then his uh his positions he
explains them out and he did a very good job detailing out everything on Saturday. >> I didn't like crossing over two different budgets but I got the hang of it there. All right. So capital is looking for
scoop stretcher to replace twos and the video broke things. >> Yeah. >> I wonder how that happened. >> You should choke on an ice cream or something.
That'll intubate you. >> It's a good weight loss program. >> Yeah. Um, so those are his capital items. And once again, like we talked about, you know, does he need all three? I'm sure he does,
but we probably would have to give him a list, too, of what he really needed. >> Yeah, but he was the one that cut his budget, so he's got a few extra dollars. >> He does, but he doesn't have uh 10 125. Well, like no, we'll leave it in. I'm just
>> Yeah, it's prioritize >> put a three on the video learn. >> Well, they are they are they are kind of critical devices like a scoop stretcher. >> Oh, no. It is. Yeah. Yeah. >> type of thing. If you can't get out a lot of houses, they can't get the stretcher physically in the house. They
have to put them on scoop to get them out of the house. Y >> and >> No, all three are definitely >> We're not We're not talking a vast sum of money when here, you know. >> No, but all those little add up. >> Yeah, they add up. >> But we could drag you out of your house
by your feet and say, "Sorry, Joe, but if you'd bought us a scoop stretchers, it would have been much easier." So, whatever you want to do, I'll probably do that even if I wasn't sick. >> Yes. Bishop has that twitch in her eye. I'm in trouble. >> Just saying. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. >> All right. 28. They have their stuff. 30. It's organized. 32. >> So, we're okay with the mis budget. >> Yes. >> Yep. >> Public safety. Just let me know. We're supposed to
insert those papers. your Davis. Was that maintenance town hall maintenance or something? >> Yep. >> When we get to it, >> that was you already went by maintenance town hall. That's 1192. >> We did. >> Yes. It's under town. >> Did we talk? Oh, was it level abundance or we didn't talk about
>> I don't think so. >> The one that's under town complex town complex town hall. There are no sheets under 1192. >> Oh, so I just went by. Okay, we will go back to that. Thank you. >> Something I didn't come up. All right.
Public safety. >> There's a maintenance of the same. No, it's up actually request 41,000. some agreements up. Um, electricity, that's a no-brainer. Fuel's a no-brainer.
Telephone >> payments is the same. Minor equipment. So repairs and maintenance building is what you want about >> 3,000 at 3100. >> Well, this is level funded electricity
>> if we have to go up. >> It's not necessarily level funded on some of the fixed accounts because you can't go down on some of the accounts. >> Accounting or not? Yeah, those are just
we can't take a fight. They actually have to go up to cover the electricity. So, >> okay. >> So, if you >> The good news is they don't spend the extra if it's in there. It's strictly for electricity or strictly for fuel. >> Yeah. >> So, if there is a piece that's extra
that goes back into our general fund the following year, >> but with the skyrocketing >> Yeah. >> cost. So, how do you do a 10% cut? >> Turn off the lights on Friday. >> Yeah, there you go. Buy everybody those
little minor slants. >> Well, you would cut it, I guess, from repairs and maintenance, maintenance supplies. >> So, I see it. >> Once again, that's why I first emailed everyone saying you figure it out. let us know tonight.
>> That capital was the uh AC compressor in the police station getting issues forever. Then the oil change on the elevator, but they just went through that elevator and did all the updates. I don't know why they didn't change the oil
with team make a note for that change. >> So the two different says two different things. So your notes on there you know the notes on this one say that there's contamination due to debris build up. >> Okay. >> For the oil. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> So on that >> so that's explanation. That's the explanation. >> Okay. >> Cuz on the sheet that's in the binder, it looks like it's >> the oil needs to be changed. This is saying it's contaminated. >> That's right. Okay. That's
>> Yeah. >> So, the AC is a Yes. Because it's >> fire station, right? That elevator. Um I that's what it says station. Y >> do you have an elevator in police department? I don't have an elevator.
No. >> So you get your exercise. >> All right. And under maintenance capital is the paving in 2029. That's all I see. Are we okay with if the police public
safety agency department is actually So the cell phone bill went away. >> I guess so. Yep. Same as dues. They haven't paid dues in two years, but there's still 600 bucks in there. So,
he's off. >> Uniforms is the same. They haven't bought anything. Are they going to buy some or not? >> Well, he's new. And it's an allowance, right? So, and I'm sure with his 5% cut or his 10%
cut that he was emailed, I'm sure he >> went through and cleaned up those items that he's not touching, right? >> Sure. >> There's 600 and there's the other. >> Yeah, that'd be 900 there, right? That' be the easiest way to do it. >> Yeah.
New new code books says the same thing. >> Yeah. So every couple years those are due, right? Um >> yeah, I don't even know if it needs to. So same thing he I would love to see his new sheet for 10% cuts. I'm sure that's what he looked at too. I know Kyle Scott
wanted the new codebooks. They were due a couple years out from when we should have got them. >> Well, that also covers electrical and plumbing too, right? Is that I would think it covers all departments in there. Yeah. So we think come out. So be careful about it. >> Yep. >> You know, see that's the nice part. It's
zero. So he didn't go in and overspend it or right >> abuse it. Yeah. It's there which then turns into our free cash the following year, >> you know. But I'm sure with with a 10% cut, he went through and >> cleaned up those areas, I would think.
>> All right. So that's under leveling house. >> Are we okay with building department? >> Yeah. >> Emergency management. He's level 100, but the antenna should go away, right? It's done.
>> He said he didn't get to add one or two. >> That's what it says over here. >> Yeah. >> Words. an explanation, but >> okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. One or two antennas seem to be on top, >> right?
>> So, he's over by 50 bucks over right there. A vehicle Vehicle maintenance. Oh, it's the same. >> Radio maintenance supplies.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Did you take the cell phone 300? Yeah. Yeah. >> And just leave it. >> Mhm. >> Good bucks. >> Under department request.
>> He increased his uniforms. Um, he said they had a new person coming on. Maybe that's what he was looking for, an increase for >> 2026. It was 1240, >> right? >> Yeah. >> The 1240 is what's been expended.
>> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. You are correct. Yeah. Yeah. >> I got you. >> Funded at 800 or you going to do the last at 1100 which is >> that's what we're talking about. Yeah. So it goes up 200
300 bucks. >> But he's zero on cell phone and insurance and dues. >> But yeah, he dropped a few other things, right? some minor equipment. >> He tried to balance it, it looks like. >> Yeah. So, he's >> Well, no, because cell phone looked like it moved to radio maintenance supplies,
>> right? Because that was the budget was 2,700. >> Yeah. >> And the Okay. Yeah. >> The request is three grand. And so that nets out the cell phone service piece of it. >> He went down in minor equipment now in supplies.
Yep. But he did try to put in the bottom line, >> right? 50 bucks difference in the bottom line at the end. >> And you guys okay with that? Yeah. Okay. >> I'm sorry. Yeah.
>> And the antenna is the antenna. Mhm. So department request uniforms The great new antenna will cost us 5500 for radio equipment for that. >> Which are probably the antennas she's
talking about. Yep. It's needed to be added to dollar. Well, I don't think we have a choice in either of those. Would you agree? Yeah.
>> All right. So, we'll add those on and 2028. He's looking for a news cruiser. So, I'll go with that. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Animal control at at the Saturday's event. It should be confus
conference to a thousand. Yep. Yeah. Is that the only difference? Bring one up on repairs and maintenance to 300 bucks more or less. >> I do know level actually the 1960 what's it been expended so far.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. >> No, my eyes are doing the same thing. Yeah, all the lines at this point testing with them by Yeah. Same with office supplies went down. >> Think she was just trying to nickel and
dime by the other line items to get the conference and travel. >> Got this. >> Yeah, she's got the bell, right? Yeah. >> So, but she's $800 more roughly. breaks at 15432 and she was at 14666.
Yeah, we okay with that. Okay, thousand. We're good. Animal control medical gifts, she's got 16,000. The animal control gift, she's got 25,000.
salary is a pennial instructor in the training and then travel we bump to a,000 instead of 2500 and then under capital the 27 is actually included in the 100,000 the 10,000 we see there so
>> 10,000 got some P of the P side of it he's just showing us 10 of it's going over Are we okay guys with that? >> Yes. >> All right. >> Thank you, sir. Lake management. replace security fil.
>> Would they come in for for electric for that? They already went up, didn't they? >> Yeah, they >> So, will that automatically go in for next year because it went up or does it stay the same? >> Well, she's looking that up. If they're
>> increasing by $300 to replace security cameras, then why do we have a capital ask for $1,200 for security for replace security cameras? So, do they really need $1,500? Is that what they're asking for? >> So, of them.
>> So, then why is why is Some in capital and some is in their line item budget. >> Yeah. >> What are we talking about? the fact that his one line item here says capital and it just matches what he's got on his
>> So, >> is he doing it twice or is he just telling us it's for >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, what it's for. So, it's what it's for. So, then it would technically come off the capital item request list, right? Because he's
>> that's just what it's he's got to >> he doesn't twice. >> It's not double. which is that he's asking again for $2,600 >> for buoys and moorings, right? That's pretty normal. They wear out. Yeah. >> And then this is the explanation because
the way this >> Got it. Okay. But it just made it to the >> It made it to this which was confusing. It should be on there because with the capital it kind of like it's going back to
>> you have to ask for it every year even though sometimes there's standard >> right standard wasn't double. No, no, wait. That's what I get with the dog thing, right? The 10,000 like, hey, is that an extra? No, no, it's up there. Okay, >> we see capital. We assume
>> 100% that that's another add-on. So, let's explain. >> This capital request isn't necessarily true because that 10 is part of the 100. >> Right. >> So, it >> you didn't know it when you added it. Got it. Got it. >> Right.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> All right. So, back to the electricity. >> Yeah. >> So, we had just added the >> $100 for that. So, it's 1835. So, >> we probably >> should up it. >> We got We got up.
>> It's not going to go down. >> It's not going to go down. >> So, electricity, what's the new number? >> So, I just make 35. >> Okay. >> So, I know that it's part of it. It's just how we've always done it just because we want to see it in that department. >> That's off.
>> The security there, >> right? So, the only difference was we up the electric to 1835 versus what it said. >> Level funded or department request. because there's $50 difference in security. >> So, I'm assuming that went up the
security bill. >> Okay. >> I would leave it >> request. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Only because it's not 600, right? It's 50. >> Plus, we're going to add the electric in there. That changes everything. Okay.
>> Thank you. 316 gift surger 16,000. >> It's not 8,500. It's 85,000. >> What's that? I thought it was 85,000. But is that the funds that >> that's the grant >> that goes towards
>> it's doing the stuff at the lake, >> right? >> Yeah. >> So that gets absorbed every year, right? >> Yeah. That's not >> and the o ramp attendant that kind of sits there at 16. That's the revenues off of the
>> fees the bubble fees. Yeah. Do they use that for something? >> Um, yes. >> You buy stuff with it? >> Yeah. I just would have to look it up. >> Oh, no, no, no. Understood. Understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> As you can see, they expended. >> Yeah. >> It was 25,000. Now it's 16. Is that what you're saying? >> Or if Oh, I got you. Okay. >> Yeah. So he's using that covered by for
>> Yes. And their pay comes out of there too I think. >> Then we talked about the 16 by years 20 to 32. It's the same same same. We're okay with lake management.
>> Yes. Lake restoration. >> This is what level funding ski like restoration. >> No capital. >> No capital. But he's he's in the works like usual. He's always trying to get
the state to come on board with these projects. Definitely a advocate for the lakes. So operations state we saw with capital same thing. So we're good with lake restoration.
>> Yeah. >> Are you okay with the the brook dam and lo removal the 5700? It's under capitals that you put on to >> see. Well, it's not on his It's on his
front page, but not on the second page. >> Yes, sir. He'll go. >> Oh, 5700. Yes. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Last year was 25 was 3,000. We bumped it to 57. they spent >> and they just haven't done anything or
if there's no or there's there >> you know I don't know if there is anything there or right you know but that's something question I think he's leaving an allowance for there so if the beavers build a dam he
has the money to pull it out and get rid of it because >> and he might not have gotten out there it's just gotten I said an explanation from7 get a feel for what's going on, >> right? >> So, do you want to leave it as is, guys?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I still want to leave it in the works. >> 60. >> Good luck taking the 10% off of that. >> Yeah. I need to add 20. Might want to add. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah.
>> Four bucks a gallon, right? Diesel is a little bit more. Oh, yeah. It's wicked. >> This weather today saving for my heating now. >> 520 gallon.
>> They just filled me up last week. >> Yeah. Ran out. I finished on my 2K and >> the day after the Okay. Well, >> it looks like there was some movement in
some things are down,000. Um and Juliet >> and say they go through valley commission to hold >> there's a collaborative but they go and
>> try to get a fuel prices. Yeah. >> So first page of DPW is they some are down a couple thousand. It looks like he's he went through and adjusted things and he's up by 700. Are we okay with that?
>> Yeah. was capital like normal and this all went through capital expenditure. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Okay. >> So, are we trying to leave in the $4 million for paving? But we know that's going out the door.
>> You want my real opinion? I'd like to think of it a million, but I think I have enough in free cash. >> That's what I mean. Yeah. So 4 million is the wish list, but it's probably be like a million like >> we've done a million for what past few years, right? >> Yeah.
>> We So we've done more than that, right? We've done a we we've done a million and then it's been anywhere from 450 to 800 on the chapter 90 depending on >> what the love in the state house is. >> Um >> it's just not buying us the same amount. Yeah.
>> The problem is every >> every road today that we really have issues with needs everything done to them. >> For years, you know, >> I was down Tinywood the other day and all those little streets >> and in my world I thought, and I'm not a
professional, >> but you would think you could just grind that road and anywood. You would think, right? It's it's a one of the oldest roads in that area. >> Yeah. the old >> I'm sure DBW will tell me, "No, Joey, we really got to replace the pipes underneath because they're just as old as the road, right? 50 years of the
corrugated steel or whatever that was called back in the day." >> So, they end up Yeah. a million dollars by Jiao. >> Yeah. >> Which is real. >> Well, that's And if I would imagine that anybody that's bidding paving right now, there's going to be a clause just just
like we get caught with a clause or fire truck or whatever. >> Any increases? I cannot even imagine the price of a ton of asphalt with the price of fuel right now. It is it has to be absolutely insane. So, >> uh what a million dollars bought you
last year >> is not going to buy us. >> You better go about half again. So, >> yeah. >> Well, I mean it's like anything else. The longer we wait, the more it's going to >> my my point is, you know, we keep kicking the can down. When do we just say
we go to town meeting want to do the whole >> We should be doing that this year. $20 million,5 million a year and you don't have to grab it all at once because because you'll be we'll be lucky to spend five million a year. Yeah. >> Right. For four years. >> We definitely have to go down that road where you have a plan.
>> I know it's just we now, you know, we don't have time to do it for this town meeting at this point, but we said that last year. So, it's kind of just like >> and actually the year before, >> but there was a plan. We have a paved management study done. Yes, it's 10
years old. The road didn't fix itself. It just didn't I I >> as God is my witness, I can promise you a road didn't fix itself. >> Unfortunately, I haven't had the luxury of driving down one of those roads. We haven't improved. >> Yeah. No, understood. >> My road. >> So,
>> well, I get out the end of my driveway. It's like there's 3,000 bumps this way and there's 2900 this way. So, where do I want to go? >> I know. Yeah. So, >> we're there. So, we're there and we actually do have the road list there. >> Okay. AI is going to give us a better
road list, but I'm pretty sure those roads are still on there. So, it's unfortunate we could be moving forward with a project with a plan and not wait a whole another year >> for $20 million when it's really like I said 555 or 44. Right. Right. It's a
commitment for so many years and I think I did the math out. It'sund >> I don't even want to quote myself, but I did do the math out on a million dollars what it cost us over 20 years. And it ain't cheap. Not cheap. But if you move in with a plan, you know, the voters say yes or no. Right.
>> Right. Exactly. >> They want to drive down bumpy roads, they can say no. And there you go. A bumpy road. >> Yeah. But I mean, in their eyes, the tax their tax dollars should be paying for something. And it is, right? We we really have for a million dollars over the last x amount of years plus our
chapter 90. It's unfortunate. I mean, if you looked at the list that's done, there's probably quite a few roads on there. And especially after this year, there's one or two that have been in construction phase. >> Y, >> you know, and they're big, they're big projects, you know, but you do look at, you know, good old piny wood and go, why
can't we scrape this and pave it? >> You know, but as you'll tell me, the material made today is not the material made 50 years ago. >> Well, everything years ago was tarn stone. >> Yeah. >> And then they just said, "Oh, the hell would it just over the base?" >> But it lasted. My street was the stone
forever and we didn't have holes. I mean, it was the same road. People would drive faster. >> Yeah. >> Didn't do it right and had to redo the whole thing because it didn't control the water. >> They'll figure it out. >> So, they waste money. >> Got have a little faith. >> Mhm. All right. So, DPW highway
division. We are in capital item projects paving small scale. We talked about the 50 to 475 the 38 I put 1 million for paving to be realistic. >> Yeah. >> Um the salt shed roof. you have it in your
thing. >> Good news is when it was 60 for one side and 120 for both, it came back at >> the whole thing was 56 or something. >> 80. >> Good for the whole thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but
>> was it 59? There you go. 60 grand. >> So 60 grand to do the whole thing. >> Yeah. Yeah, I like that. >> And we did discuss, you know, how much how much salt could be in it when he does it and blah blah blah. Um because you want that salt shed filled for next
year. >> Absolutely. Right. That's how we always done it. We filled it up now and put it on our snow budget removal and and took care of it. So those conversations have happened. >> Want to post my job
anyways. Okay. So that's So we're doing with that price for the the whole replacement. We >> can get rid of the Yeah, >> the half. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. Move on to the next page. Five year plan.
It's the same. All right. Once roads, right? did we do this year as far as our budget for 101? You don't want to look at that number. >> Yes. >> Look at that number.
>> Not that one is wrong. >> Off your chair. >> Oh, yeah. That's a big one. I read it last night and I was like, "Holy yoza." >> Yeah. >> But these chairs to what he >> and that was only that, is it?
>> No. >> No. That's not up to date. >> We missed it. We missed a storm. >> You missed. >> You ain't seen nothing yet, kids. >> Yeah. >> That's deficit spending anyways. And then you have to in order to do the
deficit spending, you have to leave it at the level. >> It is correct. >> Okay. All right. So, we're good there. >> Street lighting went up. And a couple years back, um, you know, I was on the upper building on the upper
floor, they, um, they did do a real study and went through all of our lights. >> Yep. >> And, you know, we actually are, that's that's a real number and we own them. >> So, you know, LED
>> um, slowly switching over. So, what the electric company told us years ago was, "Yeah, we have LED, but we have a stockpile of the old stuff, but it it appears if you look around town, they're slowly getting out of that stockpile." Of course, Westfield's all LED. They did
it their way in Westfield, but they slowly are changing over a year. The price won't go down. I was going to say, but be LEDs. Maybe they won't go up as much, right? Yeah. Well, that's >> Yeah.
We've had street lights on our road for a long time. >> Okay. I'm on a highway road machinery. >> 515 requested. >> Yeah. Repairs inspections. He's up in uniform. >> Yeah. There's another he's a nice young man.
He's been with us for a long time and he's been put in the position now and um he's he definitely trying you know you know since um >> Yep. >> Randy left. >> Yeah, Randy left.
So his department request is actually down. >> Yeah. >> Give it to him. >> Which was that, Karen? >> We went from 86650 last year to 86100. So request is now.
>> So why do we even >> No, you're just going through them. No, we're not we're not picking it apart. Just Okay. You already cut. >> Yeah. Good. Oh yeah. >> He did his due diligence. >> No, I The only thing I like I like that
repairs and inspections. >> Yes. >> Uh even though it seems like it's now Yeah. I I'd actually like to have a talk with Rich because I I think sometimes they like to put off some stuff. Fix fix the equipment.
fixative, you know. You know, I I see the stuff up at the transfer station and they they think they're saving money, but they're not saving money. >> Maintenance, >> you know. I mean, >> so while we're on that subject,
>> period. So, I'm so rich over the budget. And as we walked around some of the fine automobiles we have out there, >> this is one example. This is the dump truck. So, we have two dump trucks that the chassis and mileage are okay. >> Yep.
>> But the bodies are shot. >> Yep. >> Um, so I said, "Just whip up a price for me." And he did. What was it for? >> 135. >> 135 for a new dump body install done. Yeah. >> And we'll get another six years out of that truck. >> Yep. So that's what he's been, you know, like as you're saying, you know, he
might have went down a little bit there, right? >> But he also brought me that and what do you think of this? Can we put a body on it? Absolutely. This year. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> You know, and I >> and then you go stainless cuz then that body went and that's the other point, too, is I >> I think we have to stress. I mean, I would rather spend a little more money
to buy the quality stuff. >> Yeah. >> Because you keep buying the cheap stuff. >> Well, I think any dump truck moving forward got to have stainless steel. I should ask David and uh you know and then sometimes I think we keep equipment too long like >> the loader up at the transfer station. I
know that we switched the load. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That thing's like 20 21 years old. It's a dinosaur. It should have been gone a long time ago. >> Yeah. Should have just been auctioned off that because the maintenance will kill you on it >> and all of this stuff. You might get it
out of the fleet. If if if this loader's eight years old, which you use every single day, >> go in for a new one. >> Yeah. >> Move that up there. So you've at least, you know, because otherwise you just end up with a whole bunch of junk equipment and the maintenance kills you. So then
what are we doing wrong with our budget if and and right so another another loader we got the 670 over here new growth 2 and a half% we got the schools at a million firet truck at a million >> and now twice you've said and I'm not against it >> hey Joey we need to start financing metric what
>> how do we do it >> that's let's that's a good question for Tom meeting >> yeah I mean I'm just and I'm with you I get it >> you know I understand but >> and every year we're fighting to we're not so much fighting to kill a budget, but we're fighting to just scrape and
get by, >> right? >> And and and I get it, right? We don't have our numbers. This year will be different, but we never have all our numbers. We do a great job at our budget at capital. >> The dust settles at town meeting. >> A month later, we get numbers in and our
taxes either did or didn't go up pennies. Right. And we have we didn't hit the levy. We did okay as a town. And I think we do a great job. And we are and I mean >> but and I think most people are cognizant or anybody that watches the news understands that 150 cities and towns are at the point where they've
either got to do an override or a debt exclusion. They got something because >> two and a half and new growth hasn't kept up with the cost of buying equipment, paying salaries, right? >> Benefits and stuff like that. So, uh we can sit here and I I just
>> you've actually got a few options. You can just say to the people, go to town meeting and it's either vote, >> here's what we need. You either vote it up or vote it down. What do you want? >> We're there with the 20 million for roads, right? Literally. >> Yeah. >> If you want to vote it down. Okay, then I don't want to hear next week that you were all, you know, pissed off about the
roads. Well, we asked you for the money. You want to give it to us. So, >> y >> there you go. >> And we're a conservative town. So, our free cash may be up some years because we do look at the crystal ball ahead of time and say, "No, I don't think our new growth is going to, you know, we look out any new condo projects." No. Is
there another storage facility going in? >> Right. >> No. >> Okay. So, our new growth isn't it's you know. >> Yeah. >> You know how much is coming out of chapter? Whatever so they can build housing, right? Right. >> You look it's and you don't see much. So, your new growth isn't going to be there. >> Yep. >> Um
>> so, you know, Yeah. We're I mean, you know, we're we're in a tough spot, >> you know. I don't think we're in a tough spot. It's just >> No, we're just trying to >> The reality is >> Yeah. Exactly. You know, >> I mean just to me the big thing is the roads and you know >> they are the roads come up with a plan because
>> you have your safety and your roads. Those those are the >> I mean you know I don't the schools already cut six teachers. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We're not there yet. We're not there yet. >> Not there yet. Good luck.
>> Come on. We got 20 more items to go. >> Let's get rolling. >> All right. So let's roll. >> The school's going to take a hammer. All right. So, Supervisor Truck, we have uh I don't know how you even say it anymore without offending anyone, but we I think there's some deals in the works to give him the the police one.
>> Yep. >> I don't know if all the select know about it or not, but >> keep up. Um messaging board, we did not talk about it on Saturday. Um we missed it. 23,000. At this point, I'd say it's a no because
the police have >> wonderful sign board, right? >> Yeah. like the police have one. They have one. Yeah. >> I took 20 >> and even and they've asked for that before and we al you know >> they have it >> and we've said the same thing. Hey, police has more than welcome to use it. Police say >> yeah.
>> I don't think it gets used enough and it could if the DPW grabbed the two. >> The rock bucket. Rock bucket for skid steer >> 3000. >> So it's got to be another front uh apparatus to grab the rocks. >> That's right.
>> Move them. Yeah. >> Wow. Three grand don't buy much. >> Yeah, I know. But it's what's the difference between a regular bucket and a rock bucket? How many rocks are they digging? >> What kind of question? I mean, it's only three grand, but >> No, everything's only three grand. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Elizabeth, can you make a note for me to ask? >> Yeah. >> Say that part again. I'm sorry. >> The rock bucket. >> Ask DBW what the rock bucket is versus a regular skit. Yeah. Very skits.
Google a rock bucket holds rocks. >> But if they already have like that >> they typic they typically have the >> book Bobcat. >> You got your record book. What's the difference between a rock cat? Wow. >> He does have like a brief explanation.
>> Oh, thank you. He does somewhere. >> Thank you for the great. So it it does have the the top that hooks on. I kind of was envisioning that. >> Yeah. >> Looks Yeah, it's Oh, no. It's got the um >> like shaver shears.
>> Oh, on the bottom. >> So, so you can pick up rocks and then you drag it and it lays it all >> nice pebble. >> Yeah, like a pebble. >> Like if he's doing a driveway. I got you. >> Bingo. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Exact question. Thank you very
can we just look at accounting and they can say open up two more pages it's right there you guys please >> it is no I don't see >> so capital 28 2930 if there anything is there we'll leave after the next line oh
no engineering Is it >> down a bit? 700 grand. 700 grand. Yeah. >> 700. See it? That's it. Yeah. Toast. Now >> it's official. >> 700. >> Yeah, that's it. You're in charge of
road. >> You got a new road guy. Some weird math. My pants. You go. >> That new math. >> That's that new math math. >> Yeah. You make cursor. >> I'd write curs. It's a Catholic school.
>> Ain't that the truth? >> Summer help adding funds for summer help support inspections. They talked about that. Inspections are getting as we check off the boxes adding a little bit. >> I love all those mandates we get. They
don't want to fund them. So, all right. So, we're we're good with that engineering. That is PWA chapter 90 $8,000. >> What's that for? I don't remember this one at all. >> Doesn't ring a bell.
>> What? Chapter 90? >> Yeah, that's your highway. >> That's your highway funds. We get We get chapter 90 >> for Route 10 and 20 or 202 or whatever. >> State. >> Oh, any road is chap. So, chapter 90 funds is any road that the town accepts, >> right? >> Right. Oh,
>> so when we get 450,000 from the state for chapter 90, they, you know, 10 cents a mile on how many miles we have, yada yada yada. That's how we come up with our dollar figure. So when you see further earlier in when they're accepting roads, that towards our that adds to our chapter 90. >> Okay.
>> You know what I mean? It's pennies, but miles do add up. >> That's 0.910. Every time you go to the gas station, you can't figure out why it's not even. >> Yeah, that's awesome. >> Chapter 90. >> Chapter 98. >> Just so you know. >> Yeah. >> Thanks. I learned something today.
>> Should be around 800,000, >> right? >> That was 800 close to a million. Now we're almost 2 million towards roads every year. >> Okay. So, we're good with that. Solid waste. >> Uhhuh.
>> We had a conversation that the last two slows for some reason. So, can I ask you a question? You can't answer. >> I'm gonna leave the room on you. >> So, years ago and and I'm gonna I will I
will pursue it on my own. But I just don't understand why our DPW can't have 10 tickets and tell them to make the check out to the town of Southwick and give the guy the dump sticker. At the end of the week, you have either
10 tickets or you have 10 checks, right? And if he steals, he's out of a job. I don't I don't understand why we don't do that. That's the big thing, right? There's people out there with no dump stickers and that's all we hear about. >> Well, about people rolling up to them. >> Yeah. Not all of them, but there's a,
you know, there's a fair share, but only number one because the guys aren't bonded. >> I I get it. I get it. >> I get it. I get it. It is a pain in the butt because people have to they they get up there with a mattress. You know, have you got a >> No. And I get that part. I just acting a dumb sticker.
>> It's a real pain in the ass. I know what you're saying. And Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, >> everybody loves to point a finger, but no one seems to want to. The last thing I want is a gauntlet that I got to >> Yeah. >> Right. Because isn't cans and bottles and cardboard free to recycle?
>> Um, no. >> It's not. I guess I'll get a sticker if I want to recycle. >> Yeah. Well, yeah, you can you can go up to the Lions booth and throw stuff in there and that's fine. >> Can't get in if the gates down. >> Yeah, but the locking in. >> No, we're trying to talk this through.
>> No, if you go fast enough, you can get >> There's no gate. >> No gate. Okay, that is >> that's what the ranch does, isn't it? That's the light. >> If you can figure out the code. >> Yeah. >> Um, do you know did they send that compactor out to bid? >> I believe that is moving ahead. Last
year we approved the new compactor. >> Yes. I believe that is moving ahead. >> I kept asking them and I goes, you know, you guys begged and cried. And >> I don't think they cried. They just said, >> I know, but we we said okay. And then >> I'm like, where the hell is your new
compactor, right? >> Management change. >> But you're regardless a little slower. So that's Yeah, because so hopefully that's >> okay. So compact repairs
>> it it is actually I think Rich said it's finally honest to God they just they didn't drop the ball but you had management change and everything falls through the cracks up there. >> Well, it's too bad. >> Yeah, but you know what really agitates me? It's like we will sit here and we'll have people come in for the hearings and
oh I absolutely got to have it. I'm going to find it out and you go okay and it gets approved at town meeting and then you find out six or seven months later they haven't sent it out to bid yet. >> And then so when they come back in the next time it's like remember last year you were sitting here and you had tears coming down your cheeks and the whole
world was going to fall off its access >> and he didn't send the damn thing out to bid. So, what do you need this year that you're going to get all teeyed over and you're not going to buy it for seven or eight months? So, >> a rock bucket. >> A rock bucket. Okay. So, I guess that's so that's good. >> It's a long way around the world.
>> Yeah. >> All right. Solid waste. >> But I do I understand where you're standing. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> But it is in the process. It really is. >> It is. It really is in the process. >> Thank you. >> I still think it's it's too cheap to do, but they they got a quote. So, well,
yeah. It's, you know, we'll live with it. Yeah, we'll live with it. Okay. >> Why did refuse fees go down? >> 350. >> What are refuge fees? Are those going? >> Okay. >> That go down. >> Maybe we're recycling more.
>> No. >> Well, they might not be. The uh tonnage might be down. If you go back to COVID, things were really crazy and I think we padded those numbers because it was a Yeah, we don't know what's going to happen and maybe it's a maybe it's leveled off where
>> Yeah, >> they can go in that eventually look at it because because there's no it's not locked in like you say it's tonnage every week. >> Well, plus they're >> they're mattresses down the >> Yeah. >> go down. So 25 budget was 366. They only
expended 262. Yeah. So, >> but I know >> probably right. It was probably a co thing. Now we're right sizing it. So, >> but they just switched one thing that they're taking now. They have to take it down to Hartford, which they never had to do before. So, that changes the thing. We'll get to that with the truck,
too, because right, you know, it all depends. You know, what we see this year could be different next year. Somebody goes out of business or say, "No, we're not taking stuff anymore." Now, what we do with the trash? So, >> well, you are running out of places. That's for sure. Go.
Okay. Or environmental. That's good. >> Yeah. So, we're fine there. And then the capital electrical upgrade 5,000. someone that plugs out to the trackers. >> They had that discussion. The old
compactor 80 going is all kindly memorial comp. >> Yeah, I'm gonna get a plaque taken. Clark, if you're there, we need pictures. All right. 40 yard trash box. >> I'll be there in a few minutes.
>> He's listening. Yeah, that's good. 40 yard trash box 1413 to the thrift. So, we're going to get one of those standard. >> Yep, it is. It is. >> Are we going to do the concrete pad this year? >> That's not on the page here.
>> It's on. >> Yeah, you left. You're left. Oh, this he's looking at the next page. That's right. >> Yeah, it's out of order. Usually the five years after the one, right? Yeah, there it is. New packs.
>> 15,000. >> So, Paul, you want a truck or you want new pads? >> Truck. >> Thank you. We're not doing the pads. We talked about the sub panel, the new box to replace existing box. We did that.
>> So, 400 grand for a new truck, boys and girls. Yeah, I thought he reduced the what's that the median he reduced that to said like 325 average >> and I was surprised at the timeline too. I don't even think >> six months six months or eight months
which is >> and as for Kenworth >> uh it probably would be a Kenworth. Yeah, Kenworth. Yeah, which >> yeah the other uh unfortunately I actually kind of yelled at the guy down there because he keeps it so shined up and nice and liner. Yeah. Whoever's
running that is doing a great job. >> This thing looks like a brand new truck. >> Yeah. >> No, no. I've seen the duct tape. It's not. >> I got a great thing I could sell you, but don't look underneath. Yeah. So, >> no. >> You finally have a young man Well, yeah.
A young man that uh he's repairing it. He's doing a lot of the maintenance of all kinds of stuff down there. >> Yeah. Yeah. But it's still >> Oh, no. We joke. We need Yeah. >> I But I >> No one's arguing that. I think at that point uh and it probably it wouldn't be up to our board but whether they wanted
to keep that as a as a spare. >> Saturday's discussion was keeping that >> keep it as a spare and >> they move boxes on site and make small runs and >> yeah type of thing cuz you're not going to get that much for it anyway. So okay. Yeah. >> What do we figure that come in like three and a quart three and a quarter.
We change that adjust that price to 325. Okay. wiring for the shed. We talked about that already. That was fine. Box was fine. Scratch the pads. Yeah. Okay. Without process
30 capital. >> Those pads are right there again, buddy. Don't you worry about it. >> He knew. >> He had a vision. >> Yeah. >> Mr. had a revelation. >> Yeah. Okay. So, we're good with TPW sideways.
It's got information cemetery. >> You hope so. Anyway, there could be a few on the way though. usually is that those colors come right out the time.
>> Your operations >> miscellaneous looks off to me. >> Miscellaneous equipment. >> I don't know if office and miscellaneous and ground supplies. You just put it all in one. >> But I hate miscellaneous anything. >> Combined office supplies and
miscellaneous. Okay. But how does she go >> up? >> So it's stage >> 7500 in repairs and maintenance. >> They combined it with ground supplies. >> Oh, okay. >> All the supplies are in one, but I don't like the word. So
>> yeah, she's combining office supplies and miscellaneous supplies, >> but they were combined into miscellaneous supplies. So you're saying you just don't like miscellaneous like the word miscellaneous? >> Yeah. I don't I don't blame a slush. It's let me put whatever I want in here
with no explanation. >> Why would we ground supplies and repairs and maintenance are not the same? I think she put all the supplies, all three supplies together as one line item. No, >> she ground supplies up to repairs and maintenance. >> Oh, grounds went up. >> No, ground it.
>> She put it up into repairs and maintenance. >> Two different worlds. >> I don't Oh, mine got cut off. That's why I'm not paying it. Thank you. >> Oh, keep them split then. And I made it. >> Well, I I just >> there's line items for a reason. So you
can you checks and balances and then this squishing of the squishing >> and then you just leave them separate. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> The beloved column which keeps them where they were. >> Yeah. Yes.
>> Okay. Want to keep the columns like they are. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I don't because I don't like miscellaneous to begin with. So Okay. So, she's got a revolving account of 1061. >> Yeah, we talked about it last year, remember? Because they decided to do
some things with it and then we didn't know they were using it kind of a thing and we're like, well, >> that for 10,000 years I think they thought was used by future property. >> Yeah. um when we said no to a backhoe to start digging our own lots.
>> They took that out of there. Yeah. >> They figured out a way to take just the interest off that account and that's what they're doing. So 106,000 bought him a dump truck. Um and I believe they bought a backhoe. I haven't seen them dig a hole yet. Um so that's where that
comes from. >> Yeah, I don't think they >> And I think this year they were in front of us. They were supposed to be in front of us for um the column barriers, but they never showed up at our meetings for capital expenditure. Um but I'm sure they they didn't need to
cuz that's how we roll now. >> Um and I believe that would have came out of the capital item project again, >> the colarians. >> Yep. Colarium. >> Yeah, >> it never went through us. She
>> right where I think this was a more of a notation for you guys. This is what we're >> notation, >> right? It's for >> this is what we're doing for cremated people. I didn't know what that was. Oh, >> you know the calibarium wasformational for you guys. I don't want to be in one
of them either. >> Well, we went through this before. It could beformational at once. It's town money. I don't care where it comes from and it's a capital expenditure item because it's overx. So >> it was any other account it would be that way. >> Yeah. So are they going to get the caliber? >> I'm sure they are.
>> Okay. But we can't expect out of that 106. It's coming out of the >> They're getting more money out of that account. >> Okay. So they're taking more money. >> They're using this last year by the way. >> Yep. just sell some add some background.
So next page we're not combining items. They want to increase match. That's interesting because they make money. Every cremation lot that they dig by hand, they get 250 bucks for and get
paid on the clock to do it. And now they switched this past year when I asked 150 for every digging of a hole for the actual cemetery for a body. They make 150 and get paid by the hour and they don't touch anything with that. And now
they want DPW to give them a raise. Do we pay guys to paint fire hydrants? >> I would assume, >> you know, we get a buck a pothole. >> Do we? >> I bet we could because they're going to want if we're doing this, but Oh, that's not our call. That's someone else's
columbarians. There you go. And the problem with Calarians is purchase one or two. You would think you'd know your price. Is it one or is it two? I think that's why they didn't come in front of us. So that's that. That's Bob.
>> But those monies, not our money, the interest off the Okay. RSVP by 7:26. We still don't even Are we done with >> Yeah. >> Cemetery?
>> Cemetery, Florida Health. preparations to sold their supplies. >> She went down a little bit on supplies. >> Yeah, they're coming down.
>> A little bit on consultant. >> That's where it is. Yeah. >> Fine with her. >> Yeah. She's came back not even being asked >> their grant for 300,000.
>> I guess they have another year left on that. She said it's working out really well. Yeah. >> And they want they're basically showing out the title five. >> Yeah, >> that's what it is. And the fee for it will permit the fee will cover the
Yep. >> All right. So, board of health is going >> Yes. >> So, agent. >> She's looking for >> education classes. She's only at 6,600 right now. >> Is that a contracted thing? purchase a
service to for someone who provide classes. Is that what that is? >> They pay instructors to come in >> and science class. >> That went up 10,000 last year. >> I think they did, right? >> We added to it last year.
>> 2,000. >> We have more right there. Right. That was 7,500. Yeah, now they want 105. >> They want 105. >> No, she expended 6,600. They have a updated
228. >> Oh, okay. >> Just level fund it. >> Yeah, they got a bump last year. Yeah. >> We have 3,700 bucks in your revolving account.
>> So, they must charge a fee for some of the classes. >> They do. They do. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. They got money in the gift account. >> Y reoccurring 20 that's the >> so the COA formula. So those grants are what they do pay a lot of stuff with on
the um COA formula grant in the Highland Valley and that's where a lot of their payroll comes out of too because it's part of that grant for the lunch the lunch folks and stuff like that.
There you The dining room coordinator comes out of the DNA line item up. Combine minor equivalents of final item together and exercise class add 1500 for class line items. We'll pay for we already went up once. So that's a no.
Are we okay combining those two line items? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> $692. stuff. >> Okay. So, we're good with that. We're not good with the dancing. >> We have only 28. Another 2,000 could be soon.
>> I mean, maybe if they supplied us with how many more seniors are attending the classes and >> we had a Saturday session where they came in and talked to us, it probably be a lot easier to >> Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice like if they said they had 30 more seniors in town attending >> Yeah.
>> classes, then you can understand why they have to go up. But if it's the same number of people roughly. >> No, wait a second. Yeah. >> You don't know. >> They yell at us during the elections when they have to walk up the stairs to go to exercise. >> Oh, you don't have to worry about that. All exercise classes are upstairs now.
>> So now when you come to town, all business boom, boom, boom, boom. A Seinfel episode like that. >> I look at the way she goes, "Seriously?" Yeah. I go, "Where you going?" She goes, "Exercise class." >> And you're complaining. >> I have to walk up the stairs. I said, "Well, where you going? Exercise class." >> Next time you see them, say, "It's
called warm up." >> And if you can't, there's an elevator right around the corner. >> Come on. >> And it might have might have dirty oil. That change contaminated. >> Contaminated to my yogurt. You got all
the way. All right. Veteran benefits are levels funded. No. >> Veteran. Absolutely. Whatever they >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You'll pay 5,000 for our veterans. >> Yep. Yes, we are.
>> Didn't get shot coming in here tonight. So, >> okay. >> Still got to leave, my friend. >> I'll take my chances. I'm walk right behind you. >> You fell a lot. All right. library. We did to go up on
the electric last time she was here. We went up tonight on another one, >> but it's already bumped, right? She's already asking for 33 instead of the 22. >> Yeah, she already >> Mhm. buildings and grounds went up.
>> Bindery, she doesn't need anymore, it looks like. >> I mean, it wasn't a big one anyway, but So actually we must have combined something for maintenance contracts to be 3,600 and we spent 3500 and then last year
went to6,000 >> and we spent 9,500 of it so far. Have to watch that. I wonder what we did. >> Yeah, the other one maintenance went way down. So >> which one? >> It's got to be a combination. So that's Yeah, maybe.
>> Yeah, you recall. One was always higher than the other one. You're right. >> Yep. I recall that. They're up from 171 to 190, but it's the electric
>> and the information doesn't calculate calculation. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah. >> It's a calculation worth >> based on the rest of our operating budget. So much of a percentage of it has to go intoformational material
>> state. You kidding me? >> Nope. because her electricity and her fuel and all that goes up. >> Yeah, it >> then it inflates theformational materials as well. >> We've got no control over that
>> and no one reads the stuff anyway. >> What's that? >> Things like that. >> Have you been to our library yet? >> Once. >> You're going twice. >> I only want to go through a walk through. >> It gets rave reviews. Yeah, it's
>> Yeah, the state mandates what we can and can't do over there and they >> for that line. >> They do a great job. >> Yeah, >> you really should take a good walk through there. >> Got a lot of programs, too. >> They really Yeah. >> And mind you, if I didn't have three grandchild,
>> I would not know, >> but that's not the library that we had where we ducked going down in the cellar to go to the kids section. So, we've numbed our heads. >> She's beautiful now, though. >> She is. >> She is.
>> I mean, I always loved going in there, but the kids section, boy. >> No, I understand. >> Yeah. You had to go to the seller. >> All right. So, we're okay to 190. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They're looking 30
stairs capital items. The new roof came in at not 50,000 but was it 115 340. I have that written down. >> Yeah.
>> The guy didn't want to bid it when a deck of cards are pulled out. I guess >> 115. >> They have 115 340 for some reason. >> I don't see it on our list here. I don't see the library.
>> It went through the capital expenditure. >> We talked about it. So I Yeah, >> you said it's about 115. >> Yeah, I got 115 340. >> Okay. Yeah. And >> did they move it up? >> Is that what it is?
>> Well, still it's still protect. >> Is it 428 or did they move it to 27? 28. >> I still got 28 on it here. >> Okay. >> So, we have a new young man that's that's doing the maintenance. Good kid. Um, >> so it shouldn't be here because it's
>> very much a you know, you give him a task, he he's all in. So he said he basically said, "I looked up at the roof, Joe, and it's it's not leaking yet, but we're we're there." >> Yeah. >> Um I went and looked on the roof, and he's right. All the the top is doing the sunside is doing the old lift.
>> Um >> so if not this year, next year. Yeah. >> Definitely something. >> Yeah. It's going to have to be next year. And I guess we look at our budget once again >> because you're going to add how much to that 115, you think? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 10%.
>> And the parking lot. So same thing. That's in 2030. He went out after our Saturday meeting. He got quotes for all apartment lots. Did a great job. >> Um but luckily they're they're not for 2027. You know, he's got them aed out through the years. Yeah.
>> Smart. >> He thinks here first and then I think it was uh lease complex then library something like that. >> Yeah. Get a discount. >> Yeah. Because if you're promising to give them >> Well, that's money they'll they'll do it for you.
>> Yeah. And that's I think that just like when we're trying to explain that if when they feel like they're going to be ready to spend money that we're going to try to concentrate on if we're doing that street we want to do those three streets together >> because it cost X to move equipment.
Correct. You know. >> Yes. >> Right. So that was part of their conveyance and all. >> Yeah. Long range trying to trying to figure it out. Same with the with these yards. They were like well if we're doing that street then maybe they can do the town. Yeah. button. Nothing's been decided. Okay. So, that's
library maintenance. We'll put the roof off for another year for 2028. >> And that's all we have for library. Yeah. Park and wreck. >> I have a question on this one.
>> So, car Eric Hello is come on. She left. >> Oh. Oh. >> 14 years. So, great job. appreciate all her time and service. >> So, who do we have now? >> Oh, no one yet. >> I think they posted. I'm not I'm
honestly I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> That was my question. Why did the Wall-E stuff disappear? >> What's that? >> Because it's all >> on miscellaneous. >> The Wi-Fi or the >> Yes. No. Why' it go from 25 up to 60 to
200? because all of the zero under so everything's under miscellaneous part maintenance now >> I don't like miscellaneous pick another name chica >> so like sprinkler supplies lawn care field water that's now all just under me
general maintenance >> they can pick and choose what they want to do I'm not so certain water shouldn't stay separate >> of course it shouldn't >> yeah you get a bill for it right >> we do expect for level funded. >> I mean, I can see I can see how some of
them would be combined, but >> would the auto should be separate? >> Yeah. >> Wouldn't they get a quote for field repairs? I mean, they're going to have a bill for that. They're going to get their own volunteer. >> That's you could make the argument for
anything like you could you could sub out you could subcategorize so many things is what? So what's the difference between field care and you know lawn care? Like I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
>> So the lawn is the lawn and the field is what you play on. >> I I get it what I'm saying though really. >> Sorry lines. >> You know what I mean? Yeah. Thank you. That's what I'm guessing. >> Take that down to right. you know, speed and lines and this it's like
>> no that's not they're trying to combine it so that they can use it for anything they want instead of coming back to us and ask if they can move it from one light item to the next. >> I think water needs to stay separate for sure. >> Well, it was like water asked how much water is the new water park going to use versus
>> Exactly. >> But we never we never did get an answer. >> Oh, we did. >> Oh, yes, I did. >> Sure. But >> you're good. >> I have a stack of information. Okay. >> Um, but it came in very comfortable.
>> Yeah, I think it ended up being less. >> What is the float for it? >> Was 15,000 for one? >> It was around 8 grand. >> Okay. I mean, >> just under nine. >> And I understand they run the launch. But I we were curious what what that was. >> Yeah. That was the big halo.
>> Have you been to the water park? >> I I've seen it. You seen it? It's about this. >> This? Yeah. >> Yeah. It's not the Agon one that you drive by and go, "Oh my god, >> West." >> It's a cute little >> I went there and a little kid told me,
"Oh man, get out of my park." So I left. >> Yeah. >> I went there with a buddy of mine. >> He's a smart kid. >> Yeah. >> Were you on a poster or anything? No. >> No. My wheelchair did too good. >> They did. Yeah, they rushed quickly. Yes.
>> Just saying. I I would leave them all separate. I Yeah, I >> level funed. >> There's no checks and balances and there's no transparency. >> Yeah, right. We're not fan. >> And once again, if we had a Saturday meeting with him, this might have been explained to us very nicely, then maybe
we would combine a few, but >> yeah, >> we're not going to win. >> If that was done through Carish, he's gone anyways. >> So, a new person come in and should really know what his line items are. >> Yeah. >> Or first. Yep.
>> And what are they using their revolving account for? >> So, great question. So, back in the day, back in the day when someone was upstairs, >> we would literally go through this and say, you took in 60,000 for motocross parking, you can buy your own seed. >> And they would.
>> And actually, f I think fertilizing really came out of their >> Yes. Could they get their lawn more out of that that they're asking for? >> They probably could. >> Yeah. You know, when you're sitting on 102 144,000 >> and 34 there.
>> How much was the electricity? Most of what I was going to say most of the lolly part, >> right? >> Is the electricity >> for turning on the lights for turning on the lights. >> So where
>> where they electricity on here? >> No, it's in the revolving account. The lollipop >> is it? while they had revolving. >> So you're saying they really don't have the money for anything. >> So under the revolving account,
which one do you think it's coming out of? >> It's coming out of the park and wreck Wall-E Park 102. >> So So and 26 they've expended $12,900. >> Yeah. $13,000. >> As of the time they were doing this budget, so I got adding a few more
months. Oh, no, no, understood. But that was all last summer, right? July 1st on >> winter, right? >> For lighting. >> Yeah, >> right. In theory. >> In theory. >> Yeah. No, no, I'm just saying, >> you know, it would be summer and the fall. >> So, um, >> so that has the fall hours on there that has the summer.
>> Yeah. >> Maybe a little bit in the evenings now that >> uh, soccer and baseball and stuff because the lights will >> be going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And the demand fee >> Yeah. is a lot. You know, >> the demand phase is killing us.
>> It's terrible. It's terrible. >> Yeah. >> So, 102,000 will definitely cover it as I guess what we're saying. >> Yeah. Y >> should have they can take out just the park reading the whole thing. >> Correct. It doesn't have to go to Wally
Park, which is lighting. >> Agreed. And Laura, how does that how does a revolving account work? Is there a set amount of items that can be taken out of that? So, I I have 100 grand in my revolving power and I'm parking wreck.
I'm going to take my electric out of there because I can't >> You can take your electric out. You can take >> out >> You can take whatever's out as long as you don't go below. >> I'm sure you know, you can't go in the negative, right? You got to have money. Then you got to but you you have to
remember that you have to leave in enough money in there to pay the next year's bills. >> Well, understood. Yeah. >> Right. But is there a limit of what I can purchase? >> No. >> As long as it's put up, >> right? Say >> it's it's permissible and you have
enough to cover. >> Yeah. So, yeah. >> So, yes, their tractor could that's okay. Yeah. So, the >> electricity fertilizing and >> the mower. >> Yep. You should be good still. >> They bumped their prices up for parking
for the nationals. So now they are, you know, they're doing well. They're getting a good little piece in >> and they're doing a you know, the volunteers are great. The kids mowing the lawn up there is really good. >> And if anyone's looking, they're still looking for a couple part-time kids for the summer up there, it looks like,
according to the sign. Yeah. >> All right. So we can mower they could a tiger mower they can take out of >> their account. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> And it's under 2728. So I guess that's a call. >> They can make the call. >> Yeah. If they want it. I mean it's an account. They can do anything they want. >> Yeah. They don't need us for that. Okay. Ad commission open farm day. >> Yeah, I noticed there's no open farm day.
>> They went to zero and they public together. >> Is it matter what they use it for? It's pumping problem. >> So what are they trying to do? trying to put the >> I see >> move farm parade and open farm day into
public outreach. So >> So if one cost more one year than the other vice versa under both >> Yep. See the farm plate in there. That's cool.
I made this a bunch of folks. They'll be taking that out. That's an oversight. That's a typo. >> Sorry. No gift to come. >> Capital projects ongoing. Yeah, master plan. >> Correct.
>> So, I didn't understand what a fiveyear plan is. >> They don't It's all good. Just like we get it. So, there is no And they don't really have capital. Like you said, they're they're an outreach program. >> Yeah. >> Volunteers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And they do a nice job. >> Keep paying.
>> No, they are. They're doing good. >> Yeah. >> She's the first one to call me for the phone, please. Rollins. Yeah. Vote for council. >> Looking for a little bit more money because she's gotten it quite close this year.
>> She expended to what her budget is. >> Karen being sarcastic. >> Oh, wait a minute. Oh, no. >> Zero. She hasn't spend anything. But that's um >> that's like the arts. That art. >> It's really the arts. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's in April until find. >> Yep. >> So you don't show them sometimes. >> Mhm. >> Got a painting in my kitchen. >> Nice. >> Nothing else. >> No. >> So where does it go? Level
>> levels. Level. >> Yeah, it's a landscape. >> Channel 15 off the air. Yeah, I guess so. Nothing in there. >> All the time. >> He has a sore at the end. I don't
>> All right. Principal. >> Our DPW truck from 2019 will be finally paid off. >> That's exciting. >> Just know just put a bet on it. >> No. No. something is a lot of journ purchases really
>> does the north pond land position come out of CPC or is that us cuz I thought they were supposed to be paying the alley. >> Oh, this is the Oh, the pond. Okay. Yeah. And getting the two projects completely.
>> When we see paving projects 25, 26 We don't know what the numbers really are, do we? It's just that's the interest you're paying on it. The debt service. >> This is the principal. >> Yeah. >> Principal on loans. >> So I can't say that's a million dollars and it's costing us 70.
>> No interest is in the next 10. >> Yeah. >> All right, folks. That's your principal. >> And there's our interest. Yes. >> Interested was four. Okay.
>> They all they all vary >> 12,000 a year I think and the dollar. >> Yeah. Yeah. So four million commercial >> divide that by the tax used to say that's just a cup of coffee
at Starbucks drinks. >> I don't either. >> Thanks. >> All right. So that's our interest everyone at bedtime. >> I'd be sleeping in the chair right now. I got to be honest. Tough to get old, isn't it?
>> Insurance, there's nothing. >> School assessment. >> So, school assessment, I think, is we figured out today it's just under a million. It was a million, too. >> Once again, we didn't get an email where you didn't get even notified. They did come back, I guess, at the beginning of
that following week after our Saturday meeting. >> Yeah. >> And they dropped it down to >> 9:30, 980, something like that. It's just just under a million. >> So, can we get an answer on those 14 positions or that supposedly were cut?
How many are retirements? How many were absorbed into the budget? And how many are actually going to be people losing their jobs? >> Okay. Can you please email Elizabeth tomorrow morning with your question and then I will grab it and I will send it.
Okay. Thank you. And I'll get you whatever answer you want. You know that. Any other questions about the pool times? Losing children and you know Darren, you weren't off. When are we going to become a full school
system? >> Yep. >> You're not. >> You're not. >> You're not. I don't know. >> I was just the only one that dared to ask the question. >> Well, I'm not adding any more tips to get the numbers up. So, >> no. We appreciate that.
>> No, but >> but you know, you lose 10 or 20 a year and then >> yeah, >> 10 years is 100 kids and yeah more >> whether we get rid of Woodland and keep those two or whether we keep the bottom two and get rid of the top one. >> But when you've lost 600 kids, a third
of your kids in 15 years, that was a valid question to ask. >> Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And they see they have to see that. We all have to see it. And we're not alone, right? I'm sure each town's got the same situation, you know, with AWAM is building a new school and I don't, you know, a new high
school anyways, but just cringe, you know, where is where is public education going really? That's that's what we're getting down to. I have three little ones and uh I don't think any of them want them to go to our school system. They're all looking out
and and paying of course, you know, scary. of senior housing. I started there. >> Well, I'll tell you what, it's going to be senior housing or low-inccome housing. Yeah, it sure the heck is. >> Absolutely.
>> You know, we kept the schools beautiful. We put them furnaces in for them and everything. >> Well, wasn't a school 70 years old or no, 68 years old. >> Is it? >> I went there first grade. I was 5 years old from when I first opened 74. Yeah.
>> Same pavement. >> Yeah. Same pavement. >> Same pavement. All the same old rooms when they made pavement. >> Well, Mrs. Pry. >> Yeah. Mrs. Pry was a teacher. >> Yeah. First grade teacher. >> Oh, that's why I'm so smart. >> I started out well. >> I'll finish.
>> Did finish. >> Let's keep >> I did find my first grade. St. Mary's report cards. See your knuckles. Yeah. You want cat? Actually, I've been to one grade. All right. Rich Back Seer
up >> a bit utilities. >> So he's up. Yeah. The flow rates have changed. >> Utilities. So that's the word stays. >> Yep. after all his other line items he was nickel and diving. So he's trying to
come down. >> Yeah. Really good job of that. >> Yeah. And they'll tell you that the sewer is a special account that that's where the the fees come out of their own revenue stream, I guess. >> Yeah.
>> They did go up on, you know, when he went through the process for the grinder pump maintenance, >> which I did not realize all these years when I we always thought grinder pump was down by the lakes. >> That also does include all the big pumping stations. Yeah.
I never knew that. >> Me neither. you know, and he's like, "Some of those are they're they're in they need to be done." >> So, that's okay. >> We want to try to cut. Are we okay? >> Okay. So, we'll go on the second page.
That's just a breakdown of Yeah. West capital for grinder pumps we talked about inspection of forest land blockage. So we did talk about that. So down by the lakes um last fall one of the pumps went
down. They had a backup. >> Mhm. >> And they could not find it forever and then all of a sudden it went away. >> Yeah. >> So they wanted to Well, you were there, right? Same. >> They wanted to scope it. >> Yeah. So that's a one and done item. >> Yeah. which sounds like we should do for
sure. >> And the permit is the permit. >> Yeah. >> Fiveyear projection. >> And these are big these are big numbers. >> 28 29 30. >> Yeah.
>> If they make it better. >> Yeah. Okay. I said for sewer work with sewer. >> Yeah. conduct a lot of flow obviously for that kind of >> that >> what we got to do >> you know if the water and sewer well I'm
assuming we bill people >> yes >> do the the billings cover all of the expenses now the taxpayers who are not even on the >> system one of them last year it was a very interesting conversation last year >> yeah we've all we've all already had
that >> much the rest of us pay for the system that right aren't paying getting built Okay. >> Because under health and safety, >> you know, your sewers are there to clean up the lakes and it does go through the center of town. >> So, water pollution control authority
here. >> No. No. So, we everything goes to Westfield. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And back in the day, you had to buy X amount of capacity whether you use it or not. >> And we did do that. >> Um, what happened is over the years, um,
a great example is Powder Mill Road. We went to our stabilization account for $300,000 to do a design of Powder Mill Road. By at that time, the schools did not have sewers and we were going to tie the schools in because they needed to be tied in at some point. Meeting, everyone said yes for 300 grand.
All the artwork was done. Stamp next town meeting. Here we go. Here's our plan. Nope. >> Nope. They voted it down. A dry line from the lakes um down by Red Old Red Riding Hood. That area. Mhm. >> A dry line up to Big Y before we pave
that road was >> million dollars. >> Million dollars. And it wasn't going to be hooked into, but it was going to be in there for future honestly to develop Big Y area. Right now, you have a sewer. You can put more pieces in there. Nope. Nope. So, we have the capacity we're
paying for. We'll never reach it. And nobody wants to continue with our sewer project, quite honestly. the new condos over here if they get built um on the corner of Powder Mill, those will tie in and it's 100 units. >> 100 units. >> So that's great because there should be enough revenue to just help us with that
>> gap. >> I think water's probably closer than sewer as far as breaking evening if it's such an ex existence. >> Didn't we do 300,000 cap on the >> on the sewer? sewer, but the water is >> we didn't really have a conversation.
>> No, the water is funding it at this point >> as well. >> As at this point, it's funding itself. >> Water's funding itself. >> The water is funding itself. Yeah. >> Yep. >> And it depends on what we buy and how we move forward with that too, but it's close. >> Yeah. >> Well, it's just like, you know, the
solid waste. Everybody buys their delta. That covers half the cost, right? >> Yeah. Solid waste. >> Yeah. irregardless of what you know how many dump you know stickers that they sell it still only covers about half the cost of running the solid waste.
>> So even if you live on deer run and you have private trash pickup part of your taxes is still going towards >> going for that. So is what it is. It's like schools. I don't have any kids but I think >> Oh >> I'm going to go my water. >> No water division. >> We're water division.
>> It's almost 9:00. >> Oh yeah. >> Somebody has to go to bed. turn to a >> pumpkin. What's >> so water too has its own source of funding. >> I don't I think they're reading numbers. So that's
a little bit of a drop in operations, but it's not real. increase for water tank inspection. That seems important. >> Yeah, we discussed that if you're going to look at capital. Yeah, we discussed the water inspection and the pressure washing.
>> Yeah, we actually on Saturday we discussed everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. So are we okay with the capital on water? >> Yes. >> And the budget itself
what you see >> y >> and their fiveyear program is there but we're good with water. We just need to go back to town complex. Yeah, it's the one that's in the packet.
>> Yeah, it's not in the >> 156 or so if they made it in >> if you put it in your book. But now it's in your packet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is that mine?
the next one here. >> So they're level funded with maintenance. >> They requested less >> slightly less. >> Yeah. >> 136 >> 213 versus three. I mean it's not much but it's >> it counts. >> I requested
>> Yeah. The department request works more boilers. What do we do? Val time. >> The boiler shouldn't even be in there. That is also when we did the big HVAC project three or four years ago, there was,
you know, our old friend Mr. Stein, our grid occasion, said there should be a couple hundred grand left over in this line item. and did the homework and yep it's there. So that is covered. >> Oh >> yep. Actually I think process has already started. >> The best news for
>> what's he talking about? >> He talked about awnings. Yep. Yep. >> So is that coming off too or is that >> No, the awnings would be would be >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And they are a little better. >> Yeah, >> they are. What's that?
>> The 105 comes off. Yeah. >> Yes. >> What's that? >> We've got 105. Yeah. >> Yeah. Coming off. Yep. >> Here at town hall. >> And 25,000 for stays there. >> Yeah. >> And then that's about it. The generator
is a 2029 project >> and the parking is a 2029 project. >> That is all he has. We're good with that. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Perfect request. We'll give it to him. >> Right. So, now what do we do? What's the
So, we've gone through our budget that way. We've moved a few things around. Um, we're sitting on just say 4 million. And years past, we took 900,000 and we
kept it in our um I'm so sorry. free cash. >> Free cash. Thank you. >> Can't wait. >> Yes. So, we we left 900,000 in in years past. We put a million towards our tax rate >> out of you know, this year is 4 million,
right? A million towards roads and that leaves a million to buy capital >> which we just discussed on our little capital packet, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. So what I'm suggesting is I will work this week and go through the capital items that we agreed to
>> and and I will do not respond to the email. I will she will send you out an email >> with what we approved or what >> where million dollars us and if there's something missing, >> we'll leave the list of what's missing.
>> Okay. So you guys >> just divide it. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. And then when we come back Tuesday night, we'll go over it. >> Um, and I don't know what to expect Tuesday. I we're gonna have a joint meeting. So So we'll see. I would hope Monday they discuss the budget on their
end. We at least get up to speed. >> Yeah. >> But I know they had questions, too, because they didn't have the come to them. >> So I think they have this, you know, the same thought logic anyways as us. Is there anything else I'm missing? Is there anything I'm missing, Laura?
Not that I can think of right now. >> And Elizabeth, you have a lot of work ahead of you this week. I'm sorry. And >> I am I not >> I said you're sorry. You're not sorry. >> No, I I >> Wow. Hey, what are you doing? You want
to head out? Yeah. >> So, if we are and if we miss something, I apologize. Um, I need a motion to adjurnn. >> So, move. >> Second. All those in favor I >> G Maria I >> Sher Nolton I >> Robert I
>> Paul I >> folks have a great week um >> we will when is Easter is Sunday have a great Easter everyone >> get to work >> sounded good >> we're going to be Tuesday
>> it's