WEBVTT

METADATA
Video-Count: 1
Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=-8iDs3GGGVw

Part: 1

1
00:00:00.719 --> 00:00:16.160
This is the lake management meeting. It's 7 pm and meeting will come to order. Uh I noticed Cliff, did you want to record? >> Yes. >> Sorry. Yes, I'd like to record.

2
00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:33.280
>> Okay, you're on. >> Thank you. >> Okay, let me take attendance. Where's my attendance sheet, though? Oh crap. from that. Uh, Norm Chver >> here. >> Mike Kums is not. Malcolm Debet

3
00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:51.320
>> here. Mike Debbay here. Dick Ran's here. >> Eric Mueller >> here. >> Paul Murphy >> here. >> Paul >> here. >> And that's everybody. And Ellen's here. >> Okay. And we are ready to go.

4
00:00:51.440 --> 00:01:07.439
Minutes of the 528 meeting. So, no minutes from the 611 meeting. >> No, it's next. >> It's underneath. >> Okay. >> Oh, but it it showed me as being Oh, no,

5
00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:24.159
no, no. Uh, it didn't show me as absent on 611 and I was >> Oh, wait. No, it does. >> No, it says you're absent. >> Really? >> Yeah. On 611. You're not There's >> two different ones. Not in the right one.

6
00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:40.880
Any comments or anything any changes on 528 minutes? >> I have none. None. Okay. Hearing none. Seeing none, I'll take a motion to accept as written. >> So move. >> Norm second.

7
00:01:40.880 --> 00:01:56.880
>> All Y. >> All in favor? >> I >> oppose. Abstain. >> I have to abstain because I Eric I I wasn't here on 611. doing 611 meetings. >> No, no, 528.

8
00:01:56.880 --> 00:02:13.040
>> Oh, okay. Then I don't abstain. Sorry, I just confused. >> All right, I got to go down the list. Uh, Norm Chver. >> Hi, >> Malcolm Debay. Hi, >> Mike Debay. Hi, >> Dick Ran. I >> Eric Muller. >> Hi, >> Paul Murphy. >> Hi, >> Paul Yokum. >> Hi.

9
00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:34.400
>> Okay, affirmed six now. 611 minutes. Okay. Pages five and six. Same question. Any comments, changes? I have none. Anybody else? Here.

10
00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:50.560
>> All right. I'll entertain a motion to accept as written. Move. Norm. Second. >> Second. >> Why? >> All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Me.

11
00:02:50.560 --> 00:03:09.519
Okay. And that's Eric upstain. Okay. >> All right. And I just got to get down the list. Uh Norm Chver. >> Hi. >> Malcolm Deb. Hi. >> Mike Deb. Hi. >> Dick Ran. I Eric Mueller. >> Great. Nain. Paul Murphy.

12
00:03:09.519 --> 00:03:24.959
>> Hi. >> Paul. >> Hi. >> All right. Affirm. >> So should Malcolm and Mike >> We weren't there so it doesn't really matter. >> Oh. Is it that way? Eric for abstaining >> on the 11 meeting we weren't there. >> Yeah. >> Right. So you weren't here either. So you could probably abstain too.

13
00:03:24.959 --> 00:03:41.040
>> We had a lot of people that were not here on the 11 meeting. >> Yeah. >> Thank you a message to share. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Next we have um concom update. Norm. >> Yes. I'm going to give you a

14
00:03:41.040 --> 00:04:05.760
presentation tonight for the concom update. Oh. People comes up. >> Yeah, >> you're you're sharing. >> Let's try again. Share.

15
00:04:05.760 --> 00:04:31.680
Okay. Maybe. Wonder if technology You should be able to share. >> Come on, baby. >> There's a dialogue up there. Looking for something, I think. >> Just to the right of your mouse.

16
00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:57.199
>> Remove from tool pile. That's all it says. >> Sure. >> There's something there now. Yeah. Normally comes right in. It's not me sharing. >> Maybe I won't let you again.

17
00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:43.280
>> Maybe I can make you host cuz Okay. Wait. Not that soon either. No wonder. H. >> All right. Why don't we continue? Just work from your screen.

18
00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:59.360
>> Well, it's all pictures. You >> do it at the next meeting. >> You'll want to see them. >> Just if you can figure it out. >> Keep trying. >> All right. Let's keep and then we'll come back. >> Emp doesn't have anything. We had a meeting Wednesday or we almost had a

19
00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:16.280
meeting. We didn't have a quorum. So, we have nothing new to report. >> All right. >> Oh, there it is. You got it. Don't mean nothing. >> Yeah. Says you started screen sharing. Double click. >> There you go. >> There we go. All right. >> There we go.

20
00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:35.199
>> Carrier fidget to carry it over. >> Right. Someone shot it in the roof. >> Okay. I took a bunch of pictures at the 159 on-site meeting.

21
00:06:35.199 --> 00:07:05.120
And I wanted to share that with you in the slideshow. This was on the 12th of At the meeting we had John Goddard from DPW, Rich Bozac from DPW, Elvin Allen from town planner, Joe

22
00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:20.240
Meesire the building inspector, myself representing conservation, Joe Balder, Joe Balderelli, the owner, and Derek Hail, the owner's engineer. Okay, for point of reference for this presentation,

23
00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:36.880
due east, you're looking at Congam Lake. Due west, you're looking at the bike trail. Due north, the owner's home. Due south is the tobacco field. >> Okay. >> Okay. And the first one is the top of the bowl looking east,

24
00:07:36.880 --> 00:07:52.720
the bank that's here. was carved out for sand removal or import. I'm not sure. Is about 8 ft high. Okay. And I thought he had been putting

25
00:07:52.720 --> 00:08:10.000
down this black lom from looking at it from afar. That's crushed trap rock. >> It's It's crushed trap rock. >> Or was it mill or was it milling? Is it black? >> I'm not sure. But it's like road surface type stuff.

26
00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:23.759
Millings probably. Yeah, >> millings. Okay. >> And John Gddard did say that the potential mining infraction would remain as an open issue after the dam was um

27
00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:41.440
was fixed. The owner said he did not export the sand. He imported sand. >> I don't know. >> Trucks went out full. I don't know. >> He did. Yeah, definitely. >> Okay.

28
00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:57.839
And he said that he installed the the trap rock of millings and the and the sand to control erosion. Okay. >> So, if you're still standing on top of

29
00:08:57.839 --> 00:09:15.440
the bowl now, you're looking west, you can see that the millings went went on for quite a while. And I'm estimating it's close to >> that's actually uh there's a more recent picture I may have included in where um Michelle took and it's it's black.

30
00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:31.440
>> So what does he want? I mean it's like a parking lot. What does he want to do with it? >> Well, he says he's going to store some personal stuff there. So far he's got five um >> conx boxes. >> TX boxes. He's got two trailers. He's

31
00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:48.640
got a a big dump truck and two or three pieces of equipment so far. So I don't think it was to control erosion. It was great. >> Okay. >> So you're looking west there across the hill in the background is the rail

32
00:09:48.640 --> 00:10:03.839
trail. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Looking west again at the rail trail. You can see there's a lot of vegetation. So, one of the benefits of the delay is that we've gotten >> vegetated. Yeah. >> Okay. So, that's a good thing.

33
00:10:03.839 --> 00:10:19.200
>> No trees. >> No trees. Now, we're in the ball looking west at the dried up stream and the beginning of trap rock. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And trap rock is extensive.

34
00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:34.480
>> It's about 30 feet wide. >> Wow. >> And it's about 30 feet long. Okay. It's there to catch any debris that's coming downstream and it will also slow the speed of any water that comes down. So, this was pretty

35
00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:50.959
impressive. Now, if you look further east from the same vantage point, you can see there's good vegetation and you can start to see a smaller path for of of trap rock.

36
00:10:50.959 --> 00:11:08.240
And there it goes. Still looking >> Oh, wow. looking west but standing further east at the large trap rock section. So you can see the unfortunate part there is that that uh doesn't help infiltration that much. You know

37
00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:23.279
>> the other >> reduces surface area. >> The other thing of course is that the long growing vegetation >> in those >> that low growing vegetation has a much different and lesser effect than trees. Yeah.

38
00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:38.880
>> Oh yeah. No question about that. >> Yeah. This is I mean it's better than bare soil, but it's it's not like the trees that were there. >> So as you look further towards the dam, you can see that it becomes less vegetated. That's because there was

39
00:11:38.880 --> 00:11:55.040
standing water there for a period of time, >> but it's all dried up. >> And now we're looking northeast back up the hill. You can see no vegetation down below. Good vegetation on the hill. Now we're standing looking directly east

40
00:11:55.040 --> 00:12:12.399
at the dam. >> Again, you can see the variation in vegetation. Now we're in the bowl looking d east at the base of the dam. The dam is 25 to 30 ft high.

41
00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:28.800
Okay. And now we're bottom dam looking west. You can see the trap rack goes >> high or wide. >> Huh? High >> high. It's actually that high. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> So, if you got a lot of rain, that could make for a lot of

42
00:12:28.800 --> 00:12:46.240
>> I believe that I believe that makes it uh jurisdiction for DCR dam safety. I think they went over the >> Well, I didn't measure it. That was an eyeball forever. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Take your height and then times four.

43
00:12:46.240 --> 00:13:02.079
>> Yeah. Now we're on top of the dam looking due west looking back towards the stream that was there. Again, lots of vegetation. Now we're on still on the top of the dam looking southwest. And we got this

44
00:13:02.079 --> 00:13:22.240
section here of of mining that took place in prior years. Okay. Now we're east of the dam looking west up at the dam. Okay, remaining schedule. I was the only one that wanted to talk schedule

45
00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:40.240
>> and there is no current active schedule for the completion of the plan. The last schedules said it was going to be completed in November of 25. Obviously, it didn't happen. >> I did press the consultant and he said that by July 3rd, he'll have a revised

46
00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:57.519
completion schedule in hand. He's estimating that it'll be 50% complete by September and 100% complete by November. >> A question for you. Um, is the project that he's giving a schedule for

47
00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:16.079
something the town has said okay to do? >> Uh, do we have real plans? Because the last ones I saw were >> I just I first wanted to hear in other words. So yeah, we'll be we'll be complete by November. Are you going to

48
00:14:16.079 --> 00:14:32.079
be complete at doing something we don't want you to do? >> Well, let me come back to that. >> Thank you. Okay. >> Okay. The plan for the dam is to cut a large V out of the middle of the dam. It'll be about 30 feet across the top

49
00:14:32.079 --> 00:14:48.399
and about 12 feet uh across the bottom. There'll be a layer of dense fabric followed by 9 to 18 inch trap rock placed at the opening and up the sides. This section would control most storms.

50
00:14:48.399 --> 00:15:04.079
There will be spillways around the dam to handle five and 10ear storms. Okay. Now, we didn't go into a lot of detail because he doesn't know what he's going to find in the when he carves out the V. Mhm.

51
00:15:04.079 --> 00:15:18.639
>> I told him, "You're going to find trees." >> Right. >> Right. >> You know. Yeah. You know, >> trees. >> So, the only thing that's actually been approved that I'm aware of is that Randy Brown agreed to the 9 to 18inch trap rock at

52
00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:36.320
the bottom and up the sides. And Rich Borzac said he was going to honor that. >> But so, is this dam basically going to create a pond >> and a bond? Yes, there will be there'll be some ponds that are >> and and is that something that that the

53
00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:51.839
town approves or even has the authority to approve? >> I don't know >> if John John Goddard has that approval authority or not. >> But again, DCR dam safety has to approve an empoundment because any inline

54
00:15:51.839 --> 00:16:07.360
empoundment and it and if it's going to be one then it has to be designed to be offline not inline. In other words, like like the the farmers do, you know, they take a a >> like down on the canal. >> Yeah. >> That's not an impound of the waterway.

55
00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:24.160
It's an it's just water going into a lot of the consultant is going to produce a schedule on July 3rd to complete a project that >> probably doesn't have the authority to approve. >> I I don't have that answer.

56
00:16:24.160 --> 00:16:40.079
>> Yeah, I understand. I understand. I'm just I'm summarizing what I'm hearing. >> It is. >> Yeah. Right. >> Well, that was my last slide. >> It's It is what it is. >> We But we want to see the the the plans, the latest plans, cuz that's been tough

57
00:16:40.079 --> 00:16:56.560
to get is what are the what is the plan now? >> Well, he's going to have it done by the third, right? >> What it what is it that you're going >> to do? You're going to do and I think this is the summary. And what I don't understand, and I

58
00:16:56.560 --> 00:17:12.319
understand you don't know either, >> but what I don't understand is this is a summary to do something that our understanding is he has no authority to do and the town has no authority to approve because

59
00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:30.799
DCR Dam Safety has to weigh in on it. >> I'm not sure. I don't I don't know if John Goddard's aware of that statement. >> Do not. >> So So how do we how >> he's been told that numerous >> numerous times.

60
00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:46.000
>> Okay. >> Okay. But it was good to be inside the bowl because I'm glad you were there. >> I never been there before. >> Yeah. >> And I'll probably never get there again. >> But also there's some extensive work that's taking place. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But if you hadn't been there, we wouldn't have any of this.

61
00:17:46.000 --> 00:18:00.480
>> Right. >> Yeah. >> Would you take those pictures with your phone when you were there? Yeah. >> Okay. And you know, and and >> you know, we we have, you know, had neighbors of his complain that, hey, we live in a residential area and this

62
00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:15.760
looks like an industrial operation in the middle of a residential area. But, you know, how is this? You know, he's building a >> he's built a large parking lot on which he's parking. >> Well, that also was a John Guard, by the way. That's a John Garder. He's our

63
00:18:15.760 --> 00:18:34.240
stormwater guy. And if you when you put impervious materials down, >> right, you have a runoff. >> You have to have a storm water plan, >> right? >> That's part of our town by >> and and in a residential zoned area, it's not clear you can do this,

64
00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:51.679
>> right? >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. >> And actually, my next item, I got a picture for this one, too. >> Oh, good. I just happened to be traveling back since our last meeting, traveling back from AWAM on 57 and I

65
00:18:51.679 --> 00:19:07.600
went by 157 Feeding Hills and this is what I saw. >> This is the handicap ramps. >> Yeah, doesn't look like it's got any anchors. >> Well, it doesn't really have a lot of anchors.

66
00:19:07.600 --> 00:19:22.720
I don't see anything that looks like it would hold it down. Looks like post that hold it. I don't know. It's It's posted. >> It's posted into the ground. >> Okay. >> Well, we don't know. Let's get >> There's one there. >> Already got cement in there or no? >> Huh? >> Is there cement in there?

67
00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:38.640
>> No cement. The guy was installing it while I was there. >> Oh, that's funny. >> But that's >> He's right here. >> Cement on the bottom of it is not going to keep it in the ground. >> Yeah, I know that. But, uh, the the owner was quizzed on

68
00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:53.840
that he didn't have the authority to put this in yet because he doesn't. And he said, "Well, one became available and they wanted to test install it to see if it would work." >> Yeah. Famous words. So anyways, there's

69
00:19:53.840 --> 00:20:09.200
now an RDA coming or if it's maybe in the works for our next meeting to ask for the handicap ramp permission and another walkway up to the ship. >> So, >> and what we want to see is the the

70
00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:25.120
plans, the drawings that show how it's anchored. >> Well, we're going to assist it's >> that thing was yours. But the the helix >> Yeah, that's what we're going to >> Yeah. And they got to be probably four

71
00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:42.000
feet long to to do to work minimum >> cuz we use ones in the in the lake for the for the dock for the boarding docks. They're 8 feet long screwed down to all it's sticking out is that much.

72
00:20:42.000 --> 00:21:00.159
>> So anyways, that's my update for >> That's excellent. Okay. Um, >> I'm done. >> All right. CRC update. Do we have any anything new? >> No meeting since the last conf.

73
00:21:00.159 --> 00:21:18.480
Okay. Moving on. The um you can go to page the water quality thing which is on uh pages 9 through 16. I was on that. It was a webinar. Um,

74
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:36.240
it's a company that off offers a service not, you know, to to manage your lake, um, you know, for money. You send them water quality data and they come and they take more water quality data and

75
00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:53.600
they do basically what we do and you send them a lot of money. Um, and it was >> that you could send me a lot of money for doing it for free. Yeah. And I and I listened to the thing and then I gave up because it was too much of a a sales pitch. So I just signed off.

76
00:21:53.600 --> 00:22:09.280
>> Yeah. >> But uh Ken was on there and he and I chatted after and he had the same same uh thing, you know, just they're selling a service. So the next thing is >> and for and for lakes for lakes that

77
00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:24.960
don't have any nobody that you know there's a lot of lakes that don't have you know set up like we have. >> Yeah, >> that's probably a really valuable service. >> Oh yeah. >> Yep. >> So Beaver Dam update you can see on page 17 through 21. >> Yeah. >> It's quite a damn

78
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:40.159
>> quite a dam. >> It's gone now. >> Yeah. You know what the guy ought to do? The guy we were just talking about 159, he ought to hire the beavers. >> All right. There you go. And that's a lot cheaper. >> Yeah, they don't need permit. >> Would have been done. Yeah, a long time

79
00:22:40.159 --> 00:22:56.240
ago. >> I've never seen a beaver get a permit to do anything >> and they don't pay taxes. Um 22 the hydrillaa update is what if I can yeah do that one real

80
00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:13.440
fast. We basically signed a contract with excuse me with uh Stantech three-year cont uh year three of the contract for the grant and 67,754 for their part in this and that's their

81
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:32.240
uh EDNA that they do. And so that's that part. Solitude is already under a three-year contract anyway. So we don't have to do anything with them. So you I mean you can read it at leisure a lot of words but that's the readers digest version unless somebody wants more

82
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:51.280
information. uh NR excuse me NRCS progress meeting. I gave you a separate set of sheets, these um the progress meeting minutes and basically had another good good meeting

83
00:23:51.280 --> 00:24:10.320
with them. And you were on call, you were on Zoom, I was here physically, and we got a really another really good update. And they they just keep chunking away at this. You know, they're >> uh they're they're marching to a a

84
00:24:10.320 --> 00:24:26.400
path that is defined by the feds really. It's not NRCS can't just say, "Well, okay, you know, we'll we'll pick this one. will pick uh solution one and and go with it because SL two and three

85
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:41.600
don't really look great. They have to follow every one of them to the point where they quantify the dollars to do it, the permitting necessary to do it, the issues with doing it, um the risks

86
00:24:41.600 --> 00:24:56.559
and rewards and so on. So that's where we are now and they they really are moving right along. um got I would say at any given time they've got easily 10 to 12 people working on that.

87
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:15.440
So significant workload. I won't labor uh 159 which page is 34. Oh yeah, I will. The only thing I'll show you in 34 to 59 is some excellent pictures that um Charlie Odell dug out of her

88
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:30.799
archives, but she used to live right next door to them. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Some flooding there. >> And sure is that was regular. You look how many of those pictures over those years you got 200, you got uh 1986. You got 2001.

89
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:46.480
>> Well, she has some old pictures some >> flooded. You got And some of these are in color, some are not. >> Yeah. >> You got um couple times during 2001. Then you look and there's more in 2006 flooded. So, it's a a regular was a

90
00:25:46.480 --> 00:26:01.679
regular event. November 2006 again flooded. So, you know, that area used to be underwater regularly and that's why there was wetlands in there um that were all just destroyed.

91
00:26:01.679 --> 00:26:18.480
And and as I said, that's easy for someone a a wetland scientist to come in and prove that it was, you know, removed, right? >> There's still remnants. Um so, and then the picture that you have

92
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:35.480
on page 49 that I have a color version of that that area where that pad is that black that's millings now that were put over what you saw which was the gravel.

93
00:26:35.919 --> 00:26:53.039
So that's since because there was a color picture that was provided to you. And the the next one, the map there shows how much equipment is on the next on 179R.

94
00:26:53.039 --> 00:27:13.200
That's not theirs. That belongs that property belongs to Arnold. >> Okay. So anyway, uh next thing you already hit 157 Hills Road. Thank you. Took care of that. Um

95
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:34.400
navigation boys 59 to 61. And so Mark has been out there adding weights to any of the boys with lights. And it looks like the new buoys, seven pounds

96
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:52.640
will do it. What he has found there are several of the old ones, they're so water logged now that they actually are sitting with mostly in the water. They the freeboard on them of the of the round part is down to about 2 in. So

97
00:27:52.640 --> 00:28:07.440
they were really water logged and you can't put enough weight on the damn things to to stand them back up. you know, he was up to like 30 lbs on it. >> Yeah. >> And that's not good. So, what what we're doing is those are going to get replaced

98
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:24.480
with new buoys with the new u the sealite buoys that are uh roto molded. So, we we're not going to deal with them. Okay. Uh we'll be back to just 7 pounds of weight offsets the one it's

99
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:40.399
only 1.3 lbs or something like that for one of those lights. believe. >> Yeah, it's a it is. >> Oh, by the way, John Kane told me to tell you the reason he couldn't get in last week. >> Yeah. >> He's I guess all the surrounding towns are spending a lot of money on their

100
00:28:40.399 --> 00:28:55.600
budgets right now trying to get the money out. >> Yeah. >> So, he's been working, >> you know, like >> he he does it for them. So, he's doing all kinds of work for them right now. That's why he hadn't been able to get down there. Okay. >> I guess I guess it's the 30th of June is the end of the budgets or something. >> Yeah. Right.

101
00:28:55.600 --> 00:29:12.399
>> So, that's he got spent all the money by then. >> Yeah. Is that how that works? >> Yeah. It's either you spend it or you lose it. >> So he's working like mad. >> Yeah. >> For all the towns. >> So are we. >> Oh yeah. You know, so that's what's going on. >> So anyway, pages 59, 60, and 61, you can

102
00:29:12.399 --> 00:29:29.440
see are the tipped over buoys. The the 61 is a new buoy before it had the weight on it. So the new buoys are tapered like that on the bottom. The old ones are are big bad tubs. and the one you know he had one that he

103
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:46.960
just could not write. Uh so then the an the next thing is the annual vote count and our three pages. We need volunteers to do the annual vote count. >> We might want to rename try PBJ what

104
00:29:46.960 --> 00:30:01.440
it's actually >> Oh yeah. What is the name of that now? >> Gem. >> No >> no >> no. And we should add gem. >> Okay. I can add Jim. >> Yeah, we need to add Jim on what it actually is. I forget what it's called, but it's

105
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:17.200
>> it's on South Pond and usually Kums and you do that one. >> Yeah, we do. Jim is on South Pond. >> Kong, >> right? Yes, >> that is Kong Marine. >> Yeah, that's what it's called. >> That's PBJ Kong Marine. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And then Right. And I see you do have Jen Marina on this.

106
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:31.600
>> Yeah. >> All right. So, I'll I'll change the just change the name of um right DBJ. I'll fix that and reissue those. But what we need is, you know, volunteers to to do them. I know

107
00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:47.360
Scotty's usually done the middle pond. >> Scotty does do middle pond. >> If he needs help, I'll do it with him. But >> All right. >> And usually Mike >> I usually do the soft pond with Mike Kums. >> So, we should be able to do it. When do we have to do it by >> I would Well, that's what we want to

108
00:30:47.360 --> 00:31:02.880
talk about. I think we should be getting it in the next week or so because what we've found in the past, a lot of boats go off the lake for vacations. So, if there's a way to get it done before we get into the holiday weekend, um, you

109
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:18.399
know, I can email these. You can put them on here anyway. It doesn't matter. >> You think everybody's got their boats in by now? I would think so. >> I think the majority do. >> That's the thing. You got to make sure everybody's in. I mean, if you want if you want to take a chance and wait a good time, >> wait till next week to do it. I would

110
00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:35.440
think by Friday, right before Fourth of July. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that way. Yeah, that's a good because you'll have all not many people leave before Fourth of July. Okay. >> Oh, nobody's going to leave. Everybody's going to be on the Lake Tail State. Going to be a nut, isn't it? >> Oh, yeah. All right. So, we have Mike

111
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:50.640
Deay and and >> Mike C. And that's for south. Middle is Scotty. And >> I can if I can hold them out, I will. >> Malcolm. And so that's middle and north. >> We'll get north.

112
00:31:50.640 --> 00:32:10.080
>> Do north. Okay. That'll be Paul. Okay. Got it. All right. And I will um I can make more of these or the copies or you can just write on those. It's up to you. If you want me to email copies, I'll do it.

113
00:32:10.080 --> 00:32:28.880
Um, all right. Next, um, we hit so 141 Kon Road subject came up because, uh, Mike Kums and and, uh, and Rick Wot

114
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:48.399
were out and they noted that there were nine votes on the transent mored on the transent. However, there's only nine word on the rental dock. So, there only a total of 18. So, he's allowed 20 rentals. So,

115
00:32:48.399 --> 00:33:05.120
you know, the only thing is that he he could be could be hurting the restaurant from access from the transient dock, you know. So, so if the transient do start filling up, then he's got a potential

116
00:33:05.120 --> 00:33:21.919
issue. But I would think that the guy running the restaurant would probably speak to >> Yeah, >> exactly. >> So, right now he's not violating the the 20 max. >> Can he can rent two more? >> Yeah. >> And he's at the 20 max.

117
00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:38.640
>> All right. And then next, see I we have that the boat picture that you have and we're we're not sure And part of what we looked at was, and

118
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:54.480
these are for you for for the the two ramps, or I can drop drop them off, whichever you want. Um, but there's a a white motor mount that sticks out of the back of the boat and then the motors attached to that. So, I don't know if

119
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:09.839
that's some kind of a platform. >> Yeah. I mean, a lot of ocean boats are done that way. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. But I think, you know, like as we were talking before this, you know, there's a US Coast Guard approved placard attached to that boat someplace and that will have the actual

120
00:34:09.839 --> 00:34:26.320
>> US US Coast Guard defined length. >> Okay. >> And so long as it's under 26 ft, >> Yeah. >> then it's I forget what Massachusetts calls that, class A or something, then it's fine. And if it's over 26 feet, then it's not class A and it's not allowed on Kagaman Lake.

121
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:42.159
>> It says 28 on here. Who put the 28 on there? says forward 28 or is that I see something 28 on there. >> No, that's what boat on Kab. >> Yeah, that was um >> Mike Kums said. >> So he thought it was 28.

122
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:57.680
>> Well, he said the manufacturer states it's a 28 foot boat. So he must have taken a number off it, >> right? >> Or model, >> right? And you look at the platform, it could go almost 30, >> right? But I I think you know I think it'll it if it's registered, >> you'll know.

123
00:34:57.680 --> 00:35:14.560
>> Yeah. registered length. >> Yeah. >> And that's >> that's an ocean boat. That's an ocean. >> Yes. >> That's an ocean boat. But >> but if it's if it's class A under 26 ft, then it's fine. >> Okay. Does anything >> And so long as it does not have a head

124
00:35:14.560 --> 00:35:30.240
in it. >> Yeah. Right. >> That's another thing. >> I bet it does. >> Yeah. That's that not permitted. >> That's a good point. >> Do you have to have >> No, no, that's a good point because I guarantee you there's one of both. You're not permitted to have a head. >> Yeah.

125
00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:45.680
>> You cannot have a head in the in the boat on Taman Lake. >> That's that's >> it's not it's not just that you can't discharge, you can't have one. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> That's a town rule. >> Uh that I'm not sure if that's state or

126
00:35:45.680 --> 00:36:01.200
town because the great pond it may be a state. a lot of things that >> so I can't tell you whether it's state or town but but that is that's very clearly stated that you know 26 ft class A it's got to be under 26 ft

127
00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:17.440
>> and you cannot have a head in it. >> Yeah. Is this on middle pond? >> I don't know where he took the picture. Um >> sort of doubt he'd be able to get through the culverts. Hey, it looks tall. >> It's probably looks like it would

128
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:32.960
scrape. >> It's probably 9 foot clearance. It's probably make it >> No, you only have You only got five um you got five feet of water and 7 feet because the police boat had to remove

129
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:49.440
they had to change how it was configured originally because it would not go through the >> culberts. >> Hey, my tower has only got about this much. Yeah. Yeah. Yours too probably. >> Yeah. Yeah. Because the the standard this >> Yeah. If you have high water, you don't go through

130
00:36:49.440 --> 00:37:06.079
>> Yeah. The standard tower height is that that tie point is 7 ft off the off the water. >> Yeah. >> When you're at rest and and the nominal clearance is about 73, you know, 74. So, we clear, right? If I go through there, my little point. >> That's exactly what I got about that. I

131
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:23.280
remember my my the one I bought the house from who was my landlord at the time, but he went through with his wife with airboat and she's Rob, it's not going to fit. It's not going to fit. So, ah yeah, it's going to fit. >> Boom. >> Took the what do you call it? The the the whole

132
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:38.640
windshield and everything off. >> Oh, wow. >> Because it was boat was high off the water >> and it started to take his head off, you know, quick. Sometimes in the spring our water is high. >> Yeah. And and I've had it where I launch I'm like I don't know

133
00:37:38.640 --> 00:37:52.480
>> the tower down to get through here. >> We got to put a lot of people in the boat. That's what I do. >> Yeah. Right. Villain. >> Just put like four people in the boat and you go down about three inches. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Does anybody have anything else? >> Um I was going to mention uh so we had a

134
00:37:52.480 --> 00:38:08.960
a uh sighting of uh some shore some algae near shore. >> Oh yeah. >> Got a sample of that was 9:00 this morning. I've got a sample of it uh under my microscope at 10 o'clock. Uh we got pictures of it sent off to Ken. He

135
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:25.839
looked at it. Um the vast majority of it is a filamentous um matte algae, which is not an issue at all. There was a small amount of an algae that can be an issue. Not that it is, but it can be, but it was a very small amount. Uh at

136
00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:42.960
this point, there's no point to doing anything. It's most likely just going to dissipate and go away. But, you know, we'll keep an eye on it. If it if it if it grew to start to grow, then we would have to do something. >> Y >> uh Ken mentioned this year for a number of reasons has been particularly bad. Uh

137
00:38:42.960 --> 00:39:00.079
not just for us. He's just saying the lakes in general there. Uh in particular with shallow algae, algae in shallow waters, uh it's just been very bad uh all across the Northeast. >> In fact, he even said there was one that they did an alum. an alum treatment two

138
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:16.720
months ago and they've got a they've got a a shallow a shallow water >> algae bloom. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Without treatment. >> Did he say what was >> the alum can't be done in shallow water? >> Did he say what was causing like the weather pattern we had? >> He said rain. >> The belief is that it's a weather

139
00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:30.800
pattern >> and clouds. It's been a combination where we got some early, you know, it was hot. >> It was warm there for a while earlier. >> We got a lot of rain. We got, you know, it's just been >> anyway. So, >> and prior to this, about a week and

140
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:47.359
change ago, we got a a call from a um a homeowner on South Pond who saw something out in front of her house. Um that went away so quickly that in her description, she said by the time she went up into her house to call about it

141
00:39:47.359 --> 00:40:05.040
and come back down, it was gone. Um and so >> pollen, man. >> Well, no, no, no, no. She uh what she described wasn't pollen really. >> Uh so I went over there. I went over there a couple hours later and looked and there was nothing. You know, we like Yeah. Okay. But she was very nice. I

142
00:40:05.040 --> 00:40:20.800
told her, "Yep." >> You know, she was like apologizing. I went, "No, no, no. Call something right." >> My question to you is for the one that did you had your microscope. We looked at you followed the program you wrote up and it worked. >> Yes. Yeah. At this juncture, it's worked

143
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:37.359
fine. But you know, so >> the protocol >> we saw it, got a sample, got it under the microscope. Ken looked at it. >> Yep. Okay. At this point, don't do anything. And >> Yep. >> So, so we may see more of these uh you know, these little shallow water

144
00:40:37.359 --> 00:40:53.200
activities and we'll we'll >> get on them. >> Yeah. >> Um >> and luckily, you know, it didn't h I'm going to be gone for a few days. It didn't happen in the middle of that time. That makes it easy, >> you know, because otherwise you're going to wind up having to otherwise you're

145
00:40:53.200 --> 00:41:09.119
going to have to pay somebody. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In other words, you know, Ken or somebody's gonna have to get a sample, somebody with a real microscope if I'm not here, and that'll cost money. But >> while I'm here, I'm happy to do it. >> All right. Anything else? Anybody? >> Nope.

146
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:24.240
>> Nope. >> Okay. Take a motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion. Oh, >> Eric. >> Second. >> Norm. >> Norm. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Abstain. Unanimous. And what time we got?

147
00:41:24.240 --> 00:41:37.119
74141. Yeah. Okay. All right. We're >> good. All right.