This is the lake management meeting, hybrid meeting, calling the meeting to order at 7 p.m. And it is a recorded meeting. If anyone else is on line that's recording, they have to notify me as the chair. Uh, anybody else
recording? See any additional people? I'm not sure that Scotty's going to make it. Attendance, I got to do Norm Chver here. Mike Kums here. Malcolm Debet here. Mike Debay here. Uh Dick Ranolds here, Eric Mueller here, Paul Murphy
here, Paul Yokum here. Okay, everybody's accounted for and Alan Kurt is here. Okay, and first item up for bid, the minutes from the 424 meeting. Does anybody have any comments, changes?
I didn't find any. I don't have any either. So yeah, I'll take a motion to I'll make a motion to accept amendment. Bal second. Second. All right. I just got all Why? All in favor? I
opposed. Stain. Oh. All right. And I have to go through Norm Chver. Hi, Mike Kums. Hi, Malcolm Debet. Hi, Mike Debb. Hi, Dick Granles. I Eric Mueller. Hi, Paul Murphy. No. Um,
Paul Yokum. All right. Motion carries. Perfect. Next item up for bid. The [Music] uh front page separated. Okay. Concom update from
Norm. Yes, we had an RDA for 170 Mayflower Lane and Turtle Cove uh for installation of a dock which we approved. Okay. Then our chairman stepped down as
chair. First Pratt is building a house in Vermont because he'll be out of town too much to properly do the job. So, we have a new chair, a new vice chair. I'm the new chair. Congratulations.
And and Dennis and condolences. Yes. Dennis is the vice chair. Good. All right. We did talk about Lily Drive. You want me to hold that until we get to your section on Lily on 192? Yeah. Yeah, please. Okay.
uh update on the master plan prioritization. Um they they are having issues, but they're almost done. They got a couple of stragglers. Um and
the the rest of that we'll I'll I'll talk about later. um from the Sfield Conservation Commission meeting. Nothing new on the agenda about the lake. However, if you'll
remember in January and February, I talked about the massive project at 623 Forest Road in Suffield that is underway. There is not a stitch of vegetation left between the house and
the water. Oh my god. Where is this? Was near the pitch. Did they take out the stumps too or everything's gone? Yeah. Nothing. Huh? Nothing to do. I was just on the lake with you the other day and I didn't see it. Yeah, I a I got to review
the design and asked a lot of questions and at at the lake on Connecticut property is a substantial silk fence with hay bales. Good see. And I went by there today because my boat went in the water today.
I went by there today and so far that silk fence has held up with the amount of rain we've had. Good. But but they removed all the trees, everything. Trees, grass, it's all gone. I think it's mainly
hardcape replacement. Yeah. Where does that come into the lake? So I get about three houses from the pinch towards you. The pinch. That's a big hill. Three houses drive binch.
Each three houses. All three houses over from Bab. Okay. That's a big hill though, right? That's steep. Okay. Oh. Oh. Oh. I I pinch I was thinking of of South Pond. Noond. Sandbar area. Okay. Okay. Now I
know where you're talking about. Yeah. Oh, I know. That's got to be near Scotty. It's near Scotty. Not far from Scotty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then we had a complaint about the dock at 361 Holiday uh Drive.
The dock was on the property line causing navigation problems with 357. Uh they only have 45 foot of waterfront. So it's an issue to begin with, but uh they've been notified to
move the dock to the center. They said they would, but the owner is just recovered for just had surgery or something, so it may be a slight delay. What kind of navigation problems did they have? The neighbor can't get neighbor can't get in and out. The
neighbor can't get in and out, but they've got the dock on their property. No, the dock is on the property. The neighbor can't get in and out. Well, both properties are like 45 ft wide. Yeah, they Yeah, but all the ones by us are 50 ft wide. And you can get in and out. Well, unless you put them crooked
or something. They don't put them on the property line, do they? Pretty close. All of them are. You're allowed to by all the way down. If everybody stacks up on one side, that would work. But right, one person tracks to the edge, the other person's trying to be in the middle. Now
they're screwed. Yeah. And there in lies the problem, right? Yeah. Okay. And I know Mark Kreniki when he was harbor master, he would say to them, you all got to get along or nobody's going to have a dock. Right.
So that's the concom update and now I can give you the mic update. Yeah. Okay. Uh, as I said, conservation still struggling where their prioritization is is everybody. It's a difficult process.
Taking much longer than we thought. But while that's been going on, we've been producing the EMPIC committee's been producing uh the the measurement package, which we were supposed to approve last night, but we had to cancel the meeting
because we didn't have a quorum. Uh, and we also have the package on how to make changes to the master schedule and that was supposed to be approved last night. No quorum. No quorum. So, probably at the next our next meeting,
I'll probably be able to update you on both those presentations. So, that's the Empic update and I'll put that in writing for you. Sounds good. Thank you. Okay. Next on the hip parade, we have
129 North Lake A. Um, somehow I see things that have North Lake Road on it, but that's right. Um, which are pages 9 through 13 in here
and in your your handout. So, the the issue that was I'm sorry was Mr. Plan. It's on Do you want to do you want to do your I had it next the uh will no the
master plan these things. Okay. All right. Might as well do that. That's in the next order. Okay. So we have uh this is what what uh Dick sent put in the package was the final report
hopefully final report on the erosion priorities was the top one minus Rick and Ken and guess I'd like to proceed using this and assuming we're
not going to get something from those two agree Yeah. Yeah. We got to keep going. The next thing I got to do was Well, we missed the window for the free the free mailing of the erosion letter. That was going to be with the LPP sticker letter.
Oh. Uh so so the sense of urgency is down a little because we're going to have to resend another letter, but I'll modify the letter that has this prioritization in it. Okay. Okay. And that so people will be asked to to fill out that. Is that what you're
doing? Am I am I am I correct? I'm I'm confused. What's the difference between these two lists? The second list is the master plan. Oh, it reads the same. It's just
different. Well, I sent out a sentence. I guess I didn't look at these. Yeah. No, I sent out an an addendum. Wait, the ratings are the same. They're all over No, no, the numbers are different. I sent I sent out an addendum with three
sheets in it. Or at least the overall rating winds up different because you got 110 98, but the overall rating's the same to me. 1228875. Maybe they'll later later on they see them. Yeah. No, I I understand
what you're saying. Yeah, it's weird. So, so what is the difference? Because because it looks to me like the same thing just in larger font except for that the the prioritization order the overall ranking isn't the same. I think we have two addition two different
additions here. I I suspect so you know the first page has got my name on it. The second page has got Deb's. Oh, there you go. So, I would say the first page is more recent. Yeah. Yep. Okay. And this this that I mailed out. Look at
this. The three pages I'm emailed today. Yeah. Are the latest ones that we had. Okay. All right. All right. So, we'll just look at this first one and ignore the other one. Yeah. Okay. Good. Is there anything we have to do with it
right now? No. No. Uh, and you know, and there's stuff in here obviously about the the beaver dam since since the biggest effect on erosion is lake level. Um, and whatever you want, we can talk about on the
anything else on on those spreadsheets. No. All right. So, so did we get anything uh on the other master plan action project file? Yeah, that's in here, too. that I emailed out and I gave you copy gave you
paper copies. Okay. That's not in Yeah, that's not in the paper copy. Then these address version of the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't have that. We only have the So my question is do we get anything from Rick or from No. No. Should we just
proceed without it then? Yeah. Okay. Agreed. So that that's good. That will close that for us. Yay. All right. We got something done. Not last. Okay. Okay. Next. Do we have to do anything else
with it or can we just keep this one and throw the other two pages away? I believe ahead. Yeah. I believe trying to keep it simple here, you know. Okay. So next of course
u 150 next one in the package is number 14 159 Berkshire a page 14 page 14 we didn't do 129 you didn't do 129 wait I got to see
where that was but sheets it's 9 through 13 Okay, the Willy Drive discussion will drive one. Yeah. Well, that's why. Hold on a second. I got my other package.
Had it all marked up. All right. So, 9 through 13. 9 through 13. So, yeah. uh 129 North Lake A, Lowly Drive and Topaz. So there in lies a problem in
that people cannot and what you have a copy of is on page uh you can't you can't use the derelic road. You can't use derelict road because the because the town's got infrastructure in it, right? And you can't use it on any way
that is used for anything even even like if it's a for instance um many of the old subdivisions on the lakes had pieces of property that were
not waterfront that say in their deed that they have access to the water and the access to the water is at the end of their road. Yeah, we got that. And yeah, and that's very very common on Congaban. Yep. And so you can't take over that
part that was in deeds that says yay verily you own that property. You have access to you can't put a dock down there because you don't own it. But you can go down there, put your feet in the water, you can walk down with a tube, you know, or what and go swimming. But you know, you can't give it away. You
can't take it away. You can't drive. So that that solution is not going to work because they can't they can't do that. Right. Well, we discussed this Monday Monday night. Yeah. And we were
we had told local residents to use a derelch road process before then we got the the letter right the legal letter says you cannot do that. You can't but it talks about one of the reasons two well there's two reasons I believe. One
was was public utilities there, right? Yeah. But Randy was at the meeting and he he's the one that that provided that. But he said that there's there's public utilities at the end of Lakemon, but
there's there's no sewer or water lines that are still valid down on Lily Way. That's what he said. There's drain there's drainage that goes down there. He said there may be drainage. there is and there may be future drainage but that can be
handled. Uh so and also I think it talks about rights to the beach. Well, the beach doesn't exist anymore. But it's not. But here's the problem, and that's why I tried to explain. There are deeds, and you can't subvert, you can't
take away rights that people have that said that they had access to a beach that was down there. Even though it's not called a beach anymore, it's still a on subdivision plan. Okay, I hear you. And uh conservation understands that. So
what we decided to do because there's other things there was there was a drone fly over some years ago. Yeah. And supposedly the assessor told the people that they will
own that property, Lily Way property. So, what we've done is we've push we've sent it off to our new CA CEO because she's got the assessor under her and she's got Randy under her and
um and we asked her to give us guidance. I gave her a copy of the letter. I gave a copy of of u the original plan here. Um, so we're asking her for give us guidance on how to handle it. And the
and the land owners are tired of the people trust what they believe is trespassing on their property. And so they need resolution conservation needs resolution so we can be consistent in administering the LPP program.
Uh, and hopefully we'll get that from Well, and and this is in Concom's court, huh? It's in Concom's court now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. But I did u uh Nicole did call me in about it and one of the
things that that I explained was the number of uh properties deeds for properties that say explicitly that you have rights to access the water. And in each case, there's a whole bunch of
paths to get down to the waterfront along uh the toe path liy way. Uh they were never supposed to give away the toe path. By the way, uh that that p that organization, North Pond Heights or
whatever it's called, took that land, but under that land underneath is drainage. That's town drainage. And there's also a water line that feeds the people that are out on the
point because they found it when they were doing the the drainage and actually hid it because it wasn't on any maps. Dick, how many houses they bought the land? I thought the town gave the ability to buy it some years ago on No,
they didn't. No. and and the the uh assessors or I think it was the assessors get allowed certain ones to say that their property went down to the waterfront. Yeah. I remember Steve Schmidt was talking about that one. Oh yeah. When
they came up before I thought they paid money and actually bought that, right? No, they did not. They did not. They did not. Okay. But it sounds like right now it's it's not it's not in LMC's been with the CEO, right? Yeah.
Yep. Okay. All right. Next thing is 159. Another longstanding I'll just give you a quick update. Canal Brook and Great Brook. Nothing new on from NRCS. The shallow cold dress dredging dressing is nothing new on
funding that from the state. Uh so 159 Birkshire A that's 14 through 16 and you can see that John Gddard did respond and he says that
uh Mark that's Mark Kachuch um let's see that's uh what's trying to think the name of his company over on Hudson Drive. Anyway, uh he was looking at at it trying to get a scope of what the project would
entail. And so again, they do not have a detailed schedule and and he says years that Yeah. This is 2019 this event occurred. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we're
five plus years, right? We're into six years here. Yeah. So what you know what's going to happen you know though they can compel him what you know what's going to happen. Well I don't know whether we need to uh request that they do if they if they
don't get a a detailed plan and schedule that has everything done by date certain and it all should be done while still have a growing season. Yeah. You know, it's no good to to start in
September and expect something to grow. So, who who's responsible for this though? Is it Godded? Well, it's it's Randy Brown is the one that that John pointed to here. John Goddard pointed to and because he's um Yeah. See, it's
Randy Brown before. Weren't they supposed to do it by the end of the year? Yeah, last year. Last the 24th. 24th. Right. It's just ridiculous. So, you know, I I would think we want to
take a position that if there is no plan of action that completes all this work, you know, plan of action that's got explicit milestones, everything is completed by I would say the end of August, you know, because you have to
have growing. Well, we had that. We already had it. Yeah, we did. We submitted, didn't we already send him a letter and everything? But I wonder should we just should I just follow up with this and say, you know, this is this is serious. I guess what I don't understand is we're
years into this. We've had agreements before that they needed to have a plan and milestones and be executing. Not only has none of that happened, there isn't even a plan. I don't understand, you know, I I guess I
don't understand why aren't there fines? Why isn't something compelled to compel him to to proceed to enforcement? There's no enforcement. That's the problem. Not is
is it that they're not doing it or that there's no way to enforce it? There there is a way. There's a way to enforce it. Basically, there are day they can the town pen him with daily fines and there was an agreement that that would happen, but it hasn't happened.
And and there was an agreement that there would be a plan, but apparently there isn't a plan, although we heard there was. There was agreement there would be milestones. Now we hear there aren't milestones. So all these things that were agreed apparently have not
actually happened. and the finding has not happened and you know and there's there's email here from John Goddard saying gez it looks to me like finding can can resume. Yeah. So so should this so that should
happen. Should the action be that that this again then goes to Randy and and the CEO to say what's going on what's going on the bottom line right we're you know we're you know we're entering year six now yeah so I think we should have
that in an email though right but I think there has to be a follow on to this one okay yeah oh definitely I think we need a a motion copy it yeah we need a motion to escalate This well you don't want to this pissed off
people you know this has been in front of concom at all this is it was forformational purposes only but it it's not in concom jurisdiction jurisdiction it was when it happened but it's not which jurisdiction is it Randy Bomb yeah
because he's storm water you know because I mean the the reason we're talking about it is because of the the the lake water quality issues. I mean, there's a safety issue, but there's lake water quality issues where, you know, we had this event where a bunch of basically dirty water wound up
in in the lake because there's a you know, there's an unlicensed dam there that doesn't manage the water and shouldn't have been constructed. So there's you know so all this and you know and then all these trees were removed all this all this stuff all this
natural vegetation that would that was providing filtering was taken out and you know so at at some point I would think it winds up in front of com but I don't know if it happens again. Yeah we have responsibility for 100 feet from
the lake to the lake but if it goes into the lake again then we got the same problem. That's interesting. Yeah that's true what he's saying. I see what he's saying though. Oh yeah, that's true. But if it goes into the into the lake, it's too late. If we have another Right. You're dealing with the issue that
already happened in there. Right. Right. And that's not theirs. Okay. So, I think we need a motion to escalate this. Yeah. Somebody I'll make the motion that we escalate this. I'll second it. No, we escalate to to CEO and to and to Randy
to take action on on finding. You give them date. You need a date certain when they're going to have milestones. They're gonna do it. You know what's going to happen. Okay. Yeah. And I guess part of that would be our recommendation that the work should be completed by the
end of August in order to provide some growing time. We can't, you know, we can't dictate, but we can make a recommendation. Right. It's the same thing. No, we can't we have no enforcement power. and and we could add it just like you said so we
could monitor progress. Yeah. Yeah. But that you know that was part of the agreement is there milestones and it Okay. Who is the project engineer Derek Hail? Is he with the town or No, he's a he was hired by the property owner to do
the design. Okay. Sounds good. We had a vote on it though. Yeah. So, we have a motion and a second and we need a vote. All in favor? Opposed? Stain. Unanimous. And I got to
go down. Norm Chver. I Mike Kums. Hi. Malcolm Debet. Hi. Mike Debay. Hi. Dick Ran. I Eric Muller. Hi. Paul Murphy. Hi. Paul Yokum. Hi. Affirmed. All right.
That's that one. Um, the mass S319 success stories. I cannot get to I don't have any of the emails because when you know I don't have access to 21 years of
combined emails. So So I had a very good phone call with Holly Brown from uh from a state. Uh we were talking about um just she's interested in the water quality data. You know that she's got a bunch of other lakes she's dealing with. Our situations are different. She was
kind of interested when I explained to her that you know that one of the reasons why we don't have an external loading problem is that almost all of our infalls outfalls whatever you want to call them have separators y thanks to S319 grants y so she was quite
interested in that and you know we have the data if you recall years ago I did I did this not so fun sampling method where you where you have to measure you know at an infall you have to measure just prior to to a storm during the storm and right after the storm. Yeah.
And and we went through and analyzed that data and it was very clear that those flow separate those uh separators are making an enormous difference. Without that we would have had an external loading problem which would have made the alum treatment
considerably less effective to the point we might not have been able to do it. Now I do have a listing by the way. I have a spreadsheet that I did. You were going to send me a map. Well, I have a spreadsheet that has all of the separators in pound. So, anyway, you you were going to send me a map with all the
Yeah, if you could do that, that would be good. And I'll give you the separator list. So, you know, so it'd be good to have the data to show because the those S319 grants have yielded very good results for the lake and we have the data to show they yielded very good
results for the lake. And I think there's what four or five left that don't have separators yet. That's about it. I think we're down to that. Yeah. So, two of them are on South Pond. Um and there's and down on the We were
going to do another one on Middle, which may still get done. It's It's uh on Berkshire Avenue. We finished the part that's on the last leg of Berkshire past Crystal Drive heading south. That's done. We were going to do Crystal Drive back
towards Oak and uh and take that off of that would entirely eliminate it. So, it would be good if we can do the rest. The the other thing I wanted to mention, she was explaining to me, you know, she's dealing with a lot of impaired waterways
around the around the state and she assumed when we started our conversation that we must have a a big external loading problem because everybody does. And then I explained that we don't and that there's two reasons we don't. One is because we're springfed. Yeah. You
know, we don't have surface stream feed. And the other big one is all these separators. Yep. So, and and infiltrate infiltration. That's the other thing we've done is is if we don't have a separator, we have taken much of the storm water and infiltrated it so that
there's no, you know, and even with separators, by the way, part of that is to put in deep sump catch basins because none of the none of the basins that were in town had deep sumps originally. They were all basically the water go in, all the crap goes into the pipes. So that so
there's a you know there's a benefit that we're getting that people around here may not realize we're getting. Yeah. You know be because it gears I mean you know those S319 grants cover what 25 years or something right. I mean
over a period of of about a doz a little more than a dozen years. Okay. A little more. Okay. But they, you know, that was a very long-term activity and we're reaping the benefits of it kind of quietly and you, you know, and and lakes
around the state that haven't done that, right, have a have problems we don't have. And the other thing is we got our own problems. We don't have those problems. Even even what they're doing with um the new the new roads, you know, upgrading roads and whatnot is and
around the lakes, they're doing the same thing. U for instance, when they did bungalow, that big chunk of bungalow got tied into the the separators. They were sized for that the separator that's on
Lake Bont. And then um the same thing Let's see what it call already had one was sized for adding to it was veteran that already had a system started. So everything goes through a separator. And that's part of what's going on is that
as we fix the infrastructure, it either goes through a separator or gets infiltrated. Yeah. We don't no no discharges into the lake, you know. So we should certainly I know you have you always have but I think we should certainly you know continue to seek opportunities other S319 grants what
have you take care of the remaining four or five while they we may or may not be able to because they they keep changing the rules for a long time you could use upgrading and use S319 to upgrade existing conditions. Then they went to a
period of time where they said, "Oh, no. If it's a pre-existing condition, you can't use S319 to fix it." Which makes no sense. You know, think about it. Everything's pre-existing, right? Right. Exactly. And and whoever whoever dreamed that one up, but then they retracted
that and went back. I don't know what the status is now. Anyway, we you know, we should we should continue to look for opportunities to get the last ones done. Yeah. You know, we're we're benefiting greatly. Well, if we do the one on Birkshire, that's our our major one
because that dumps a lot of stuff uh down off of White Street. There's a big pile of stone and crap, you know, uh and that would be totally disconnected from the from the lake. In other words, nothing will go into the lake because that's going to be infiltrated.
Pipes all rotted out. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Um so, anything else on that one or can we move on? All right. So, the safe boating class, which is 17, 18, and 19 in
here. And how many people signed up? You know, there are 19 down there. Okay. Actually, 41 signed up. Only 19 showed up. I was just talking to about that. It's training. Exactly. Um but anyway,
so they have 19 and they are hoping to wrap up tonight with the tests. That's what he his plan was that they will finish everything tonight. And so that went that well well and I just did the segment on Kangaman while he was out
taking a taking care of a bear that was loose in town. So now the Beaver Dam update, Eric, um they Connecticut Suffield D U DPW removed the two dams in Connecticut.
One they removed more from than the other and John Blakeley manually cleared the stuff in front of the weird gates. the weird gates, but our guys were going to go down with the machine and go down deep. Good and take this stuff because they if
if you leave it there, they'll rebuild it overnight. It's running great. I was down there this morning. Okay, good. The problem is that they did the second dam. Yeah. They only took two feet off it and that was that was the Sfield guys. Yeah. And our guy that was going to do it for
CRC Yeah. He was going to go down deep. He's got a longer claw. Okay. So, he was going to go in and take it down four feet. They took the first one down four feet. The second one they took down two feet. Now Mike and I were thinking maybe they couldn't reach it. That's what it looked like. That's what it looked like. But we don't know further away from the
the uh coming off the trail only. Yeah. And I mean he took your your load 45 degree angle going on that hill. Yeah. You're going swimming. He's using his blade to hold if he was sliding in the water. But Kane said that he could take that thing right out with his his tools.
Yeah. Cuz if he goes down with a a big excavator, he he if he's got he's got a 40 foot stick on it, he could take it out. He said that he would do it in a half hour dance. Yeah. So the thing is he says he's willing to do it any time. So if we have more issues Yeah. Keep an eye on it. Let me know. Says he'll do it
doesn't care. Just realized the water come up 2 in in the last 48 hours. Yeah. And and it looks like we have at least an inch and a half more rain coming tomorrow. Yeah. We're 224 10 inches. And we got a big storm coming. So we're going to be right up there. 220. We
start hit 225 range going to be, you know, looking back, but it's running good. So I mean, if we can get a couple of dry days Monday, Tuesday supposed to be Sunday supposed to be beautiful. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday supposed to be dry. Yeah. So I uh you know, we're going
down different roads. Um you know, I've spoken to a a number of different um uh professional wildlife management services in Massachusetts. um they all kind of have the same issue that you know we need people who can
work in both Mass and Connecticut. Connecticut had changed their regulations so that you need this beaver class and they're not offering the beaver class but you can't do it without it. So it's a so it's a bit of a challenge there. Uh the other thing that
I was pursuing was um this company Beaver Solutions and I did get a hold of the guy. We had a very good conversation. He was nice, honest, straightforward guy. He said, um, the structural solutions will not work for
you. He said structural solutions work well in areas where there's only one or two places that beavers can build. He said, so like he said, most of our business, his business is things like uh road culverts. He said because okay,
that's where the beavers are going to build. Yeah. And so he said, "We can put in structural things that that cause the beaver dams to be ineffective for the beavers." Um he said, "But what he said, if we do that in your situation, they'll just move to another spot." Yeah. He said, "There's no they could build
faster than we can fix." He he said, you know, he said, "It's just not, you know, we we won't be able to help you." So the next thing which I haven't started yet is to now try and beat the drum with find wildlife management outfits in
Connecticut and see if I can find somebody there. And the ideal thing would be do I can I find a Connecticut person who can also work in Mass. Yeah. If that's a nogo this like a four-step process. So that's my next one. If that doesn't work, the step after that would
be okay. Can I get a Connecticut person to do Connecticut? We get a Massachusetts fund a new message and we'll have to h code the beavers so they stay those beavers have no respect for their property lines. So so that's that's kind of where we're
at. So the you know first two how come how come you can't transport them but they can transport themselves? Can we try to find out who in the state has responsibility for the glasses and get communication with that? That's that's not a bad idea. Yeah. Y
you know cuz maybe you can get an exemption because it's off season now. Right. Yeah. Right now the one thing the ma you know the Massachusetts guys did tell me now you know it's out of season so to do that we need a you know we need a ruling from the local board of health
and I'm like yeah that won't be a problem. Well that won't be from our end but yeah they have he was talking about Massachusetts. Oh okay. He he he was just saying in Massachusetts that it is there's one is right. So there' be some
other discussion in Connecticut. Yeah. Cuz all the dams are in in Sfield. Well, we get dams in we get them. But the ones that have been the issues the last four years are all from the wegates down other than other than the one that they built north of the the big one we had to
take out with the that was a few years ago. But most of the dams are either built inside of the culbert or those three other spots right around camp. There's one on each side of Canbrook. Yep. And they those are the two dams. It probably they're huge, but it would be
cheaper to just have us take them out in the beginning of the year and the end of the year because if you take them out to 4 feet, we're good for the season. Really? We're good for the season. I've been down there for 10 years. So you say if they take them out to four feet, you the beavers don't rebuild them. They don't rebuild them. No, they've been
they sit there forever. Okay. Well, will they go to a spot that's that's a new spot instead building there? You got to do the same thing. We take them out like now. Yeah. And if they take them down to four feet, we're not going to have issues until August. And then we could take them out in August and we're good
for the season. Yeah. And I agree. You got to get the depth because they they in 2 ft of water they can build, you know, two days they can build the dam the dam. I mean, we took we took them down two feet and we got the water down. Yeah. And then they built them back up and then they came in and took them
down. And but the the first one that they didn't take deep enough, they rebuilt it in like three days. Yeah. But you're saying if if your experience is if they take it down four feet, then they don't rebuild for months. It takes them a long time. Yes. A very long time. Sometimes they don't even rebuild in
that spot. They'll go some other spot. Yeah. Okay. But then you got the same problem. But the thing is, but the pro the thing is if you can get somebody in there beginning of the season and dig these things out, you're usually good for two months if they dig them up. But they we haven't been able to get them
down deep enough. But but you appear to have identified somebody who's got a machine. He says he can take them down. The guy selectman. Okay. John Kane I he's a member of CRC and and Michelle's already they'll pay for it if he needs money to he doesn't need money. He said he'll do it for free. He's running for
selectman. He wants to get the the press. So Sorry. So, so sign him up. So, yeah, sign him up. Well, we don't need him right now. That's the thing. So, well, yeah, but why not? Yeah, but you're saying get in the beginning of the season. Why not do it? Well, I have him set up to go in and do it and then he
got DPW from Southfield to do it. Yeah, he was already set up to go down there and they jumped in two days earlier, right? But but there was a section for Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, because no matter what the any beaver
trapping path is going to take a long time. Oh, yeah. No, especially in Connecticut because you got to go and you got to get the wetlands committee over in Suffield to do it. They got to sign off to say that you can go in there and you're too close to the road from what everybody's stalling. You you got the trail right there. Yeah. And for them to go in and trap, you're not going
to be able to do that because you got the dogs running all over the place. So, that's out. Yeah. That's the biggest issue. You got people in there letting their dogs go in there. You're not going to have traps in there, right? But I don't think you trap where the dam is. You trap where the lodge is.
Well, the lodge is right. You can see the lodges. You can see the beaver swimming around. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, that's So, you're saying the lod the lodge is still accessible to dogs. The lodge is right there. I mean, but the dogs go in the water there. So, if they start putting traps in there, if we ever we would have a major issue if
somebody's dog gets hit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think and I don't think Trapper would do it anyway. Well, the guys that I talked didn't want any part of that, right? Yeah. They then they didn't take the course, right? Which they don't get, which they don't offer to take. So, it's it's a it's a catch 22 going
there. All right. Next. Moving on. The uh bit. Next thing is we got the Beaver Dams update. I'll tell you the visitor center heat pump was replaced. They started last Friday. They finished it on Monday. Beautiful job. Absolutely
beautiful job. Everything is now back to where we have HVAC working perfectly. The other thing they found which was really good on their part when it was done originally um the intake plenum and the ducting going into that
plenum was too small. So, what would happen is the the uh coil would freeze up and you know you're starving it then and and it can't you can't get the AC running. Well, the same things with the heat. Then that thing goes in trips off
on over temp because it's not flowing enough air through. It's getting too hot. And so it was running on the what we call a toaster electric element that's inside it for emergencies. And as this guy explained, he says, "That thing should never come
on with if it was sized right. You should never have to use the electric backup." And that thing would come on. I could tell because we had installed two um indicators downstairs and I could go
down and see that it was on. Now, they put a new uh smart thermostat in for the new system. Yeah. And actually, I can see it on my phone and and it will also tell me that it's on emergency
heat. And he says, "You should not see emergency heat come up at all." So, this should help us with the electric bill. The electric bill was out of sight this winter because it was running on electric heat because the heat pump wasn't working. Brutal. It was
a killer. We spent probably $900,000 extra on electricity. So anyway, good news. That's done. Um, and I did put in, you could cartoon. Uh,
couple other things. Let me just go down through here. Uh Mike Wescott called me today and actually uh another officer was with him and he found one of the uh cables that
we could not find. Remember when we were trying to put that dock the the fourth dock in? Well, he found one of the cables and it was shredded. So, somebody got it with a prop and but he he has yet to find the the
six foot long aluminum angle that supports the dock, but they're going out. The the uh regional divers are coming Monday morning. Is there anybody else besides myself that wants to be down there Monday morning at North Ram
9:00? And when they come and and uh you know just in case they need I don't know Norm if you're available cuz you're tall. If they need somebody to to just grab the the cable that they find and bring it over to shore. Yeah. Cuz we
want to what we want to do is reconnect the cables to the chains. They can do that on their end because they can pick the chain up and and bring it onto the boat. Then we have to tie it off on our end. But I'm hoping that they find the aluminum because the cable stings. Yes,
they are. Not magnetic. Not magnetic. Well, the stainless is a little magnetic. It's not You're not going to pick it up. I heard all day they were fishing with a magnet. What are they looking for? Yeah. No, I explained that. And they must have wrecked their prop.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Think about that. So, at any rate, Monday that they're going to do that. So, if I don't know, Norman, are you available? Yeah, I think you're not. I think you're working, but I I'll plan on being down there at 9:00. So, if
we get some guys with waiters, if you need extra waiters, I've got um and then we still need to put up the sign. Uh Paul and I were going to go put up the sign, but we haven't had a day where it's not windy or raining or
raining. And and you have to have a dead calm day because you're going to sneak up onto that wall and sit there and you don't want to be blown into the opening. Well, I did go by. We can definitely get the top from the top. Oh, you can. Yeah. Yeah, I can reach it real easy. No
problem. So, maybe what we'll do then is we'll hang the sign from the top one and then just drill the hole in the bottom. That's actually easier. Yeah. Okay. Do you think we'll need a ladder on the boat to reach the bottom? I didn't look at that side. I was just looking to see what I could get. What you can do from
the top. Okay, cool. All right. They have a huge excavator right there. Oh, they did that. It's gone. I I'll explain that. Just lift you down. Yeah. All right. Well, that's very safe. We'll tie yourself in. Yeah, I'm sure that's OSHA approved.
Okay. Um, and let's see. Anybody have anything else? Be careful. Don't drop me. Yeah. Right. Right. It's a clawing. Uh, anything else from anybody we need to cover? No. I'll entertain a
motion to adjourn. So move. Second. Second is Paul Y. And all in favor? I opposed. Stain. Unanimous. There we go. And it is what? Uh 7:49. 749. Nice.
A world record. Hey, pretty close. Nice.