This is the lake management committee meeting call it to order at 7 p.m. And it's a hybrid Zoom meeting. And if any and it's being recorded if anybody else is recording, please notify the chair. And I'll take
attendance. And let's see. Norm Chver here. Mike Kums is away. Mike Malcolm is not showing. Uh Mike Deet here. Dick Gran's here. Scotty, are you on yet? No, not yet. Um Paul Murphy's not
polyoken Phillips. Okay, we're all accounted for somebody I think just came in. It's a number. What is it? 860982 4244. Uh 9824244.
Is that I'm not sure. I just see what it comes up as. He's got an 860 number. 8609824 [Music] 424. Yeah, that's Scotty. That's probably safe. That's Scotty. He's safe.
As long as it's not a US. Yeah, we don't get any crazy photos. Okay. Um, so the first thing God's muted. Yeah, muty. Uh, Scotty, you need to unmute.
What's the best view here? They don't They all don't. That's okay. Yeah, that's good. That's okay. I'll turn on those [Applause] one. At the moment, the only thing we have to look at is ourselves, which we can do without the
view. Okay, there we go. There you go. Look at that. tricks of the trade. Okay. So, first thing, first order of business is uh attend I did attendance uh the minutes from the 410
meeting. Do we have any comments, changes needed? I didn't see anything wrong with that. The only question I had was on that 18 hour work week. Did we get any answer to that? It's it's still bouncing debated. Yeah.
not so much debated. It's it's a matter of covering the um u what was explained to us was that um rules for benefits. Well, yeah, because she's year round, it's different. Ramp attendants can work 40 hours a week
without hold for benefits because they're seasonal seasonal. And of course, Dick pointed out, oh, we've been doing this a long time. The answer is yeah, we weren't supposed to. Great. Anyway, so they're they're they're working we're working on it. Find a
solution. Okay. Anyway, back to the minutes. Any changes? Anybody? If not, I'll take a motion to I'll make a motion to accept them as written. Okay, that's
like second is Paul Y. All in favor? I oppose abstain. I'm going to abstain. It wasn't here. U video. Yep. And that's okay. And let me just run through
affirm it. Uh normally you you abstained. Uh Mike Debay. Hi. Dick Gran's eye. Scotty Graves. Um he dropped. You dropped. Yeah, he
just dropped out. Okay. Eric Muller. Hi. Uh, Paul. Okay. Affirmed. Oh, sounds like he just came back in. We lose you for a bit there, Scotty. Yeah, Scotty's in finally. Yay. R. Okay.
We Yeah, we just voted on the minutes. Um, and so it was unanimous, but you weren't on, so I couldn't affirm it. Are you still in Yes. Am I? Yes. Yes. Okay. Are you
legal? All right. Now we're legal. Okay. Let's keep going. Oh, the the first thing, Norm, update on a couple meetings, I guess, right? Yeah. Well, from the in the first meeting,
u I told you that we had a new LVP agreement with Soffield in place and thing to add to that is the $3,000 check for last July 1st has arrived from Southfield from Monday, April 7th,
meeting several items. Uh we had had the uh director of DPW from Southwick, Lee Corbett, who was in to discuss the installation of the outfall. It was not
permitted. It was done in Massachusetts even though they believe they did it in Connecticut. But uh the director said this was done prior to him being there. I know that him being there. And he said there were no plans,
but he did have pictures and the pictures were very very good. Was was done efficiently, done effectively and professionally and we were pleased with the with the response and and no action and was taken. Oh, good. Good. And I
informed the Sfield Conservation Commission Tuesday night and they were very pleased. Right. I'm sure they were. Yeah. So, we're working the relationship with Excellent. So, and there's also a maintenance
agreement in place and an easement for uh airfield to do the work uh on that maintain it. Okay. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Uh on the North Pond task force, two things to report. the number one one
of the trails has been fenced off. The state asked us to close it because it wasn't an approved one. So that's been done. And then there was there was talk for some time about putting
um buoys up across on the lake so that the boats could not land. That is not going to happen and boats will be allowed to beach. Okay. Then on the disc the question on that um when we had discussed that
before what sounded to me it sounded to me like the idea was that's been put on hold the you know basically the voters are asserting that they are not the source of the fecal matter on shore. Yeah. And and so basically everybody's going okay
we believe you. Now if if that continues then that then that option would be re revisited. Yes. You all right? Does that sound right or? Yeah. Okay. Okay then. Who patrol? And I have quite
a bit to report on uh 129 North Lake Avenue. Okay. The dust part. We are taking a u a a tour of Lily Drive. Because Kinecom wanted to do the same
thing for Lily Drive that they were going to do for Desmark. Yeah. Okay. And the police came because we reported that there were there were people on properties that didn't belong. But but we had conservation. We also had
the selectman with us. Diane Gail came with us. Right. Then after that observation meeting, we held a non meeting meeting
with the Dell camps and and Mrs. Espark in the air. Okay, right here in town hall and we reviewed two things. Number one, I had done some more research on on on the
Despart docs. They did actually have a license that was approved in 1996 for one dock. Right. That was off their property. Oh, off their property. Well, it was on their property. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But the sketch on the plan did not match
what she has in in place. So therefore, it's 40. Right. And that and and what do you call it? Subsequently voided, right? DP. No, that's never been voided. Oh, there was a there was a they applied for two other docs in 2016. That's the one
we've been all been aware of. Okay. Okay. That was never approved by the state. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, I reviewed with her. I gave her a copy of the document from the 1996 cuz she lost hers. Yeah. But I gave her that. So, she
has that. I described to her that she can't get an LPP sticker because she's violation of the 600 square f feet. And so you won't be able to get a chapter 91 license either because of the 600 square f feet.
Yeah. And uh and they also have the issue that you don't own a property that that Harris is on, right? Where two of the docks are. She understands that. I believe she is going to cut off the
umbrellas and apply for a chapter 91 license. I believe that's what she's going to Oh, you mean cut off the roof? Cut off the the roofs to get the square footage down, right? Yeah. I think Yeah, I think I believe that's what we're going to Yeah. Oh, and go chapter 91.
So, she doesn't need a variance because they're unreovable. That's she's she would still have that option to go either way, right? But what I've been told is she's going to go for the chapter 91. I don't know that. Yeah. I don't believe she's chopped anything
off yet. I haven't been on North Pond. But how are they going to get chapter 91 license for the two that aren't in front of their property? Well, that's that's the second thing we address. Wait, here he goes. Wait, there's more. Okay. Uh, we had the Dell camps there because
they're their neighbor and they live on Lily Drive. They live on the first house, I believe, on the north end of Lily Drive. Yes. Or Lily Way or whatever it is. Yeah. And we discussed with them that we that the conservation commission
was of the opinion that everybody on Lily Drive should go ahead for the derelic road process that John Sennis did and take ownership of Lily Drive and therefore Lily Drive would disappear and
we would never have any more future conflicts with Lily Drive. Sounds good. Okay. So I know that process has started. The Dell camps seem to be taking the lead to contact all the neighbors get get the process from John
Sinners and how he did it and they'll try to do a group and they and the hope they're aware that their taxes go up because now they're waterfront. They've been they've been taxed at waterfront. Okay. Yes. So that that won't change. Okay. So I know a couple
were surprising. So there's progress there. That's good. Then let's see. I guess the only other thing was that there there were some docks floating around that are near
island island pond that uh Rick pulled one out. Yeah, he yanked that one out because it was upside down. Yeah. There was also when you were in North Pond, did you notice uh because I was in it the other day with the uh
environmental officer and did you notice the the one that obviously was there all winter long that's all shot? It's it's a real piece of garbage. I I said well I was there this morning because we were water sampling this morning and yeah
there whole sections of it are are you know almost underwater and it's it's um I don't know what the it's quite it's quite bad looking. I I I know there's one there that's bad. Yeah, it's not a long one. It's pretty short. No, but
it's pieces. It's all junk. Yeah, it Yeah, it probably it wouldn't take much for it to break up. And obviously was there all winter because they didn't take it out. Y maybe they were hoping the ice would take it out. Yeah. Okay. And from the Sunfield
Concom meetings have been two since our last meeting and there was no item on the agenda that impacted the the Okay. So that's the concom update. Okay. Now the master plan implementation committee
update. Uh we're going to discuss shortly status of our prioritization. Um I want to let you know that we've come up with the processes to change make changes to the master plan that was approved by the
select board. I'm pitching the planning board next Tuesday. So at our next meeting I'll be able to walk you through that. at the next meeting. At the next meeting. Okay. The measurement package has been I believe it's completed. We're going to do our final approval at our
next meeting. And that's the impact update and I'll type that all up and send it. Okay. Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah. Do anything we have to go over on these uh two. The only the only thing we got to go on
there is uh there's Ken and Rick. want to go ahead and fill it out or not. Was everybody Yeah, I emailed him. I emailed both of these. So, he's trying to collect your votes. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's
You got to sit down and just prioritize them. Okay. So, yeah. And one is the highest priority. Yeah. And and says that it does. It does. And uh once you once you do it, you can
either if if you just want to pencil it in on the thing. Um you can always drop it off in the bucket, you know, in the cauldron and I'll I'll enter the data. Okay. Whatever way you want to do it, keep it keep it simple. And I told Rick the same thing.
You know, if he if he doesn't want to bother doing it, emailing it and all that stuff, scan it and email it. You can just paper copy acceptable. Yeah. when and Paul reviewed it for his priorities and said, "I'm not changing my life." Yes. Right. Right. Smart move.
He already did all the research. Is that right? Smart move. Oh, sure. Very smart. The ones I read through, it's like, well, no, it's not worth it. Yeah, that's right. Okay. So, nothing else on that, right? Right. Okay. Um I think the next thing,
let me just go through my cheat sheet here. Um is CRC update, but I don't see Michelle on. No, but there hasn't been a meeting since our last one. Okay, so let's be second Tuesday. No meeting 13th, I think. I'm giving a thought
there. So, okay. I don't have it yet, but I all right. And um somewhere we got to cover the the uh the beaver question. I'm looking if we can link it with Yeah, we can with something else going on.
Um Okay. In fact, this is actually a good one to tie it to the Great Brook and Canal Brook Clearing and Dredging. That money is still on hold because of Doge. Yep. Y um Yep. And those poor guys
are have got to move out of where they are in Ammerst because it's a leased building, right? And they're under a mandate. Anybody's in a leased building, you got to leave. That's federal mandate. Assuming they can escape the lease. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Well, their lease is up June 30th. Yeah. Are they federal employees? Is they federal employees? So, they might be out of a job before they Well, so far in DC. So far, so far they have not u they did
lose a couple of recent hires, but they haven't lost any of their senior people, right? So, they're hoping but what they're hoping to do is get the money released. They're funded for the people that work there. They're trying to get the money released more of it because
they're doing two projects. This is good news. They got two projects, good size projects going on on the Cape that got that the funding got released on and they're, you know, millions and and one is uh a salt marsh and
another one is uh dredging an area that's too shallow. So they've got similar kind of of of projects going. So it's not that it's zero, but we have to he's working
to try and get ours going cuz it's it's ready to ready to put in the oven and get it going. Um so just thinking that might be a good idea, good time to cover the beavers. Sure. What you learned. So, um
I I've been fishing around trying to find first trappers um to go go after the beavers. And the challenge that we've got um uh we run into it with the same same challenge each time. We need somebody who can
operate in Massachusetts and Connecticut because the Beavers don't don't seem to respect the state line. Go figure. Um, and in Connecticut now to trap beavers, there's a special beaver class you have to take and they
have none scheduled. So, so they tell the trappers, you can only trap after you take the beaver class. Oh, well, how do I take the beaver class? We have no idea because we don't know when we're running a beaver class. So, that that becomes a bit of a challenge. The other
thing is I learned about this uh company called Beaver Solutions. I've been leaving that guy a message for two weeks. I haven't heard back. Um, one of the trappers mentioned that this guy has a device that he's had experience with,
this trapper has had experience with that prevents the beavers from being able to be successful with the dam, meaning because they do the dam to to raise the water level and basically they're not able to do it and they give up. So I'm like, "Sounds great, but I
can't get a hold of you guys so far." And we had a guy in here, didn't we already with the guy put the pipe underwater and spread it out on both ends so that And then they blocked it right away. Yeah. And but it doesn't always work and then you got to let them
build a nest around it or dam. So the so again the trap one of the trappers I talked to said he had seen this work and one of his comments was he said remember trapping is also a temporary solution. He said, "You know, if you want a permanent solution, you probably want to
do something structural." And I said, "Yeah, what we want to do is dredge the canal, get it back to 9 ft deep, right?" But but since it's going to be a while before we can do that, so I'll continue to pursue Beaver Solutions. Um and if I find other trappers, I'll talk to them,
too. I believe at some point the state will do the class. My guess is because we're past trapping season, they're probably not going to do it now until just before the next trapping season. The trappers with a with a uh with a
finding from the local health department, they can trap out of trapping season. So, we would just need that. But, but nobody else can. You know, you you can't trap without that. So, my suspicion is that Yeah.
Connecticut has set up a new thing. They don't have the class ready and they haven't figured out when they're going to do it yet and they figure there's no emergency strap many months away. Yeah. So, so and they and they did if it's if what
he's talking about is the beaver deceiver which is a pipe running through the dam. Yeah. uh conservation spent the money about this is probably about 10 years ago because Dennis Clark was involved in it and they put where you know uh Palmer
Brook Y because that takes the water from the um goose pond goose pond. Yeah. And it didn't take them but two days to plug those suckers up and they spent all that time and money to to install them
and they and they were parallel pipes. They must be able to tell from the movement of the water from what I understand because all the the last month and a half or so we've had no flow because of the beaver dams that were down below. We basically flat down
there. We open up the beaver dams and we open that up. They not only clogged those back up in two days. They went up and started filling in at the weird gates. Yeah. So, so in any case, we'll stay on this. I'll keep trying to get a hold of the guy from Beaver Solutions.
the, you know, the trapper told me he had seen that guy's solution work. You might might look and see, does he have a website that might have an email? I've been trying. Nothing there either. No. And wow, he's got a very nice answering
machine. Just doesn't answer. Right. Okay. So, I suspect I'll continue to do periodic things. I suspect the time for us to re-engage on this is as we get close to trapping season. Yeah. Yeah. That's
probably when our our next real opportunity for doing something with that is. Okay. So, unless there's anything else on the on the beavers, uh 159 Birkshire is on pages 14 and 15. Uh nothing has happened
yet there. I asked, as you can see from the email, I asked for a schedule because we've gone through two years of no action whatsoever. So, so, you know, I read John's email. You know, at any point the town can resume penalties for the
violation. Yeah, that's what they got to do to get the attention. So, um what and that's actually probably not our purview. You know, who needs to who needs to talk to whom so that that starts happening? Well, it might be because the damage
that was done to the lake is how this all started. Yeah. Okay. So, um, we can insist on a schedule or penalties. You guys pick. Well, either get a schedule, you know, look, John Gddard
looked at it. Yeah. He's very clear. He says at any point the town can resume penalties for the violation. The design infirming works satisfy the conditions of the original citation, but the violation remains. So, it doesn't it it seems
like we're done. We don't we don't need new findings. We're all done. The question is just going to enforce it. So, who's who's the do who who resumes the penalties? Uh that would be through John. Okay. So, he's saying at any point the
town can resume penalties. Yeah. So that sounds saying somebody. I don't know who the somebody is because he has has two hats. He wears the planning board the planner hat which is what started this and he also wears the DPW. All right. So
where I retired from. So So how do we get them to start? Well, I can follow up with them on that and say Yeah. So what do we need? He said he's supposed to meet with them today to review the scope of work. So, I don't know what happened because John's only here like an hour a
day, right? But if you can ask him, he'd probably tell you right up front, I would think. Right. Yeah. Because I mean, you know, his his statement is pretty clear. At any point, the town can resume penalties. Yeah. So, all right. I will do that. This is a perfectly good point. Any point
because we've gone, like I say, two years with no action. Yep. Okay. I'll take care of that. Uh the next item up for bid is come on page up one. Okay. 81 point grove road. We can't go
into any discussion on this. I gave you as you see the first item says please do not address this issue anymore on page 16. Yep. What I did was give you all the background up to that point which you could get just request hook
information. You get all this because it's existing. So you have everything including what we voted on at the last meeting which is on page um 33 and that map. Now there's a couple
things to look at. Page 33 has what we proposed, which was straightening the the take that knee out. Yeah. Which would really solve the problem. And he he would just extend it and have the same number of of more, you
know, spaces, births, um, and relatively simple, but he would have to modify his chapter 91 uh, license. Now, the other thing that's interesting about the license, if you go
back a page, go back a couple pages, go to um this this never should deping. Go look at page 28. So 28 has a couple dimensions on it from
an eroding shoreline and and they show this like it's a perfect point 80t from this perfect point plus minus. Well, now that's plus a lot. Yeah. Because that isn't even there anymore. Yeah. So if you go down
there, you could take a line and and all that all those little heihaws that are on there are gone. So, you know, they measured it and they said he was within the 80t. Well, that was a problem because the 80 ft now
where you a a drawing like this should be to fixed items, right? It should be to pins, boundary markers, something or or even if you Right. But it GIS but right but it but it exists. Yeah. And
you know so my read of the of the whole discussion is that the state the the the state's position is yep you did an up an updated survey the dock as it is is
compliant with this drawing one license your concern regarding the navigation channel is not in our purview that's really in the purview of your harbor master. Yes. So that's it. It it appears that's where
that's left. And it sticks our harbor master in a in a tough position because somebody will say to the harbor master, "Well, the state's okay with this." Yeah. And they Why do you want to change it? It's like, well, you have to look at what the state's okay with. The state didn't say they're okay with the navigation channel. They said they don't
have anything to say about it, right? They're they're okay with the current doc position complies with the license that they had. So from their perspective, he does not have to change anything. And they might as well have when they did make made this drawing,
they might as well have said 80 ft was to a guy standing on the shore. Yeah. You know, but so I I agree with you, but it is what it is. Yeah. So I think, you know, I think the only thing there's only two things. either either um if if
the owner wants to move them because he's okay I see your concern he wants to move them he can and we'd like that or the harbor master if the harbor master feels that he needs to per um you know
to to ask the owner to move them he can do that but otherwise so according to the environmental officer last week there Um there was an accident there. A boat was hit
um last last year. In either case, who has to bear the expense of that? Seeing as we basically the town are saying this needs to happen one way or the other. Well, so far we don't we there's nothing
we can do about it now. I really just I was just talking about if Right. But suggested but I don't know. I don't know. So anyway, the uh you know, I think our um you know, we the it's not
really a request. It was quite clear, please don't address this issue anymore. So it's done. It's done. If it you know, it may progress into another direction at some point, but at this point at this point, we're done. Yeah. So we're going to take it off the agenda. It's coming
off the agenda. Okay. Uh the next thing is um we got it's I have at home in the garage as a reminder that we have to put it up. It's a brand new multicolor 24 by
36 inch no PWC sign. Good. Uh really nice. Very They did a really nice job on it. It's yellow, red, black, and white, you know, and it grabs your eye. And it
it has the PW. It has a um a jet ski shown on it. Uh and it has the with the slash through it and it says no, you know. Yeah. So hopefully it's obvious. Yeah. Uh so need a hand putting that up.
Uh it it'll take two people on the lakeboat. one. You You gotta You gotta stay and kind of steady the boat. We could even try and anchor it there. Maybe. I don't know. A ladder or something. Yeah. A ladder off the bow of the boat.
Do it when it's warm when it's in case you go swimming. In case you go swimming. Yeah. Or or we could we could look and see is if there's a way to to approach it from the from the top. If there's any way to do that.
you know, a ladder to the to the um like a an extension ladder, tie it up and climb down and and climb and climb down. I don't know. We got every if anybody want to take a look at see if you got any ideas of how we might attach the
damn thing. I know I attached it with trying to remember who the one that's there now, but think this is big. Put a step ladder. Put a step ladder on a pontoon boat. Well, that's what I said. Um, and
and we have to drill a new hole because it's bigger. So, we can hang use the hole for that's the the bolt that's on the top, but the bottom bolts got to have a new, you know, new one of one or the other has to have a new location. So, we either got to go up or down. EPW
got one of those list. It's like an arm that you can have a basket on. No. You see him doing trees with? No. No. That would be perfect. Yeah, you just reach over the side with it. Yeah. So, anyway, you can run from if
somebody Yeah. Uh if somebody wants to to uh head out someday with with me or we'll take a look at it and get some ideas. I'd like to get it in as soon as we can because they'll be they'll be going in there and using the excuse,
well, I didn't know what it was. Um, now the the next thing is uh the Connecticut AIS. Now I brought the that's a picture of the sticker on my boat. Yeah. So, um I uh suing me, I
actually read the stuff that the state of Connecticut sent me. Uh so um never do that. I I right I I I don't always read everything they send me, but in this case I did. I was I was putting my registration stickers on the boat and I
read that um there was a change in the law in November in Connecticut. Um there has always been this uh aquatic invasive species uh funding and it was in the past us boat owners didn't know it was
happening. It was just part of your registration fee. Now it is separate. So, you have a registration fee and you separately need to get an AIS stamp and you can either get a stamp on a vessel
for an an operator which is $7 which gives you that operator on that vessel or you can get a vessel stamp for 25 which covers any operator. Now, this is Connecticut, but those of us with Connecticut
registrations who are operating in the Massachusetts water, the only reason we're allowed to do that without having to get Massachusetts registration is that there's an agreement between the states because of the shared shoreline and all that. But I would think that
that means that us people with Connecticut registrations probably need to have those registration to be compliant with Connecticut law. And Connecticut law says that any inland waterway, and they're quite specific, ponds, lakes, streams, rivers, they they
make a big long list. If you want to operate your boat in an inland waterway, you need one of these. Um, so that's the picture of the one I put on my boat. It's kind of big, actually. I'm not that crazy about it the way it looks, but it is what it is. And I suspect that a lot
of people uh do what I often did, which is, oh, I get the mailing, I put out I pull out the thing I want, which is the registration and my registration stickers, and the rest of it goes in the trash. But in this case, I read it. Once
I read it, I went, "Oh, well, okay." And I went on their site, gave them 25 bucks, uh, printed a thing, and then they sent me the sticker. Yeah. Good. How big is this actual sticker? It's It's pretty big. It's like that big. Okay. Okay. You know, it's like whoever
designed that was think about it's kind of about like it shows. Yeah. Like I said, whoever did that was thinking ocean boats. You know, this going to look funny on read it from 20 25 miles away. All right. Um and it and and they have
requirements for where you put it and it you know it's amid chips on the port side and it needs to be visible when when the op when the v when the vessel is being operated. It needs to be easily visible by an safety officer who is you
know moving along the side of your boat. Okay. Sort of like your registration sticker. It's right. Does it go next to it? No. No. No. It's a midship. Oh, it's midship. So, it doesn't go on that. No, no, no, no. It's it's a midship. They're
quite clear about that. Like again, the way I read it, it's like an ocean guy wrote this, but Yeah. Right. But anyway, so so I I don't know how, you know, one of the questions maybe you can ask the EPO officer, how are they going to
handle that? I will do that. You know, what what are what are they going to do? And then so my guess is we should ask that question and then maybe and maybe relay that answer to to uh you know to to our local folks. The Harvard master
may want to ask on his own but but if you find informations I can you know is that is that something that our that our local folks are going to enforce one one email or a telephone call to them and I'll have an answer you know rather than
Right. And so I don't know what EPO is going to do. Yeah. Kind of a backward way of going into something, but whatever. Yeah. Take it from what was already in the registration to separate. Well, the reason they took it separate because it's an additional charge. They want more money, right? The registration
didn't go down by 25. By the way, you need this sticker. 25 bucks. All right. Um they said they removed it from there. It's like you didn't remove it, you add it, right? Nice profit margin. I I know the difference between
subtraction and addition to make. All right. Um so the next thing is the what to do about this. The Kongan Lake success story which is on 37 and 38. Um
so do you know which three S19 funed projects? have those. But the problem is is that when I retired from DPW, my access to 21 years of combined lake management DPW emails, because we only
were allowed the one email, right, it went and I'm trying to get them back because that's where all this data resides. So, you know, so because you and I talked about this a little bit, you know, I read this, I read her email, and it would seem like it might be
worthwhile for us to do that, but we need to know which three projects. I know the three. Okay. I know the three. Absolutely know the three. But like I say, all that all the data is not. What are the three? We did uh the one actually the one across from 159 uh
Birkshere, the Oldtown Beach. We put in a a detention pond there and we did uh one, two, three, four deep sump catch basins that were had no sumps before. So
it it feeds into that and then and it had a it has a grass swale and it has an un an under drain also so that it doesn't so all all three of these outfalls. So that's that's one project. That was one project. That was our first one. The next one we did was Middle Pond
and we did five I think it was five um if you look at the at the beaches for instance one off Island Pond, one off of Braon Drive, one off there's there's five on on the shoreline and we we put
uh separators because it wasn't room to put a detention pond and and a settling in for bay and all that kind of stuff. So we we did that and a grass swale out of each one of those. And so if if you can give me a map and highlight all the ones
that are covered by these, I com I can compare that with if you recall in the a number of years ago when we started this. You took I was doing I was I was doing sampling before, during, and after major storms at those sites at at a
number of sites, but including those. I I I don't know that. Yeah, I remember you you deliberately took them there because that was one of the things we wanted to see. You just if you can give them back to me on the map, I can compare them with the original sites and then because one of the interesting
things of those data was it showed that those things were being very effective. Yeah. And what it did was it prevented us from having an external loading problem. Okay. which because it prevented an external loading problem,
we were able to proceed with the um alum treatment. Yeah. And get the result we have with the alum treatment. Okay. If those hadn't been done and we were having external loading problems, the alum treatment wouldn't have been approved and we wouldn't be getting the results from getting from the alum
treatment. And and I can tell you the other the other one is North Pond and we did um two places, five in North Pond and I I I know where every one of them is. Okay. Um Yeah. So just but I I still I want to get the the bleep and emails
because it has the link to every drawing for every one of those sites. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, if you just get me a map, I will do that with the with the marks. I'll go compare it. It's I mean I got to dredge it out because I did those measurements 10 years ago, but
yeah. Okay, I will do that. 10 years ago. Um let's see next on the hit parade the safety box. Let's see safety. Yeah, voting safety
class. So that starts now. Actually, our next meeting will be the Thursday of that of that class. I will be there uh I usually do either the the first night or the second night and I'll do what's
congaman you know what's unique to Kongaman and they give me you know 20 minutes half hour to to congamanize the rules that are that come in from uh the state because we have additional
requirements so that that would free me up I we should have not should not have a problem with having our meeting because it's up here anyway. That's downstairs. And all I do is I'll come here early each night and make sure they're all set with the video and the
the audio and everything. So, they're very they've been really good in the past. They are they're really good about running those uh classes here and they like the facility. Y and I took ours here. Yeah, it was good. So any rate
um and then the visitor center heat pump that has been awarded it was 148 I think 14,800 if I remember the number uh was the low bid and actually he was the
middle we had to toss the low bid because he was not going to pay prevailing wage has to be prevailing wage and no ifs, ends, or buts. And and the high bid was a lot more than that. So, uh, this guy is local. He's done a lot
of work for the town on town buildings. And it's reset, uh, plumbing and heating, rece, and, uh, so he's done a lot of work already, and they were very familiar with them. So, that's good. And they will I've already met with
them. I met with them early in the week. They figured that they'll start it midweek next week and it'll take them a couple three days and they'll be done. Um, and then this nautical map if
you look at excuse me pages 42 and 43 and I'm looking for your input on it. in particular. You look at I'm Did you bring a color one with you or No, I didn't. Okay. They are These
are in color. They are really, really, really good. Oh, there you go. Thank you. It's the free version. And if you select the right fod, you get congam. Yeah. For free. Yeah. And you can put you can get a link. Yeah. And you get
you get you get on it for free. But if you want it so you can maneuver it, then you buy it. You know, you pay $99. So, I'm going to play around. If if we can get everything we want for free, we'll get it for we'll do it for free.
But it it's really one of the best maps that I have seen, bar none. Mhm. And and uh so and so they use the the data that the state put together two years ago. No, this is this is another whole
independent they they these are worldwide. This company does these things. Okay. When you when you start you can start. My question is did they come here and do soundings or are they using old data? They're probably scouring data from
multiple location from multiple sources. Yeah. But but there's a lot of bad data out there. Yeah. But this knowing looking at what's there, I did the old smoke test and looking at what they're presenting makes a lot of sense. In other words, where they're showing the
shallow areas and yeah, that I'm on board with, but the the state did a sounding. Where is that? That was the feds. We have all our feds. Okay. So, do we have those back? We have that. Yeah, you've got that. And that's probably part of what these
are based on. Yeah. Because they pull all public data duties. Okay. All right. Yeah. That was the ar the army court, US Army Corp. Yep. And didn't cost us anything. Yeah. So, I'll keep an eye on
it. If we can get enough information, if you're playing around with it at all, you know, see what you think, too. Well, what do you want to use it for? We want we want to be able to zoom in on areas because eventually it'll help us decide home in on when we start dredging coes
and stuff like that. I did a a whole list and a priorities and I I did a map showing every, you know, each area shaded that we want to do and and the priorities, you know, we would start looking at priority ones and and refine
them. So, we get a little more information about, okay, it really runs from here to here, not from here to here. Oh, you're talking about basically going in getting depths and that sort of thing, right? But from this from the maps because just trusting their data.
Yeah. Well, between, you know, looking at that and what Army Corps gave us because Army Corps did a a really really really good job. So, you don't see yourself needing to be out and using its GPS function on the map on the No. No. Okay. That's already been done. And and
that's why I said they they went and they went um all of the shoreline and all of the coes and they mapped them out to 10 or 12 feet of depth. They didn't go deeper. Mhm. Cuz we that's was not the problem.
We weren't wor worried about dredging, you know, 40 feet. What's down 40t? Don't care. Leave it there, you know. But our original intent was to do the the cove off of South Ramp was our first one and that's what we had applied for
the grant and didn't get it. Uh we're still on the we still got uh Mark Bmark, a senator Bark and and Rep. Uh Nick Ba are still working to get us
money 500k to do them. and we kept the the money alive from CPC funds. We didn't sign off on that, say goodbye to it because we're still trying to get the other money.
Okay. Um, anybody have anything else on the that we didn't cover? Are you going to talk with um Michelle about the uh them supporting the issue of removing beaver dam? Yes, I did already. and she
said they had already given it a thumbs up to that they would pay for it and John Kaine has the equipment and he's a member of of CRC and I don't know whether he was going to do it and Michelle was going to
go check on that whether it was Gratus or whether he was going to get paid to do it but we can't we can't pay to have it dredged in Connecticut I mean moved in Connecticut can I okay North and Connecticut can't come over into South
and do ours. So, but yeah, we're still we're still working that. I talked to her probably two hours ago and we had a quick chat about it, three hours ago
now. Yeah. So, I think we're on this. I think we're good. I was just asking, you know, we need to do anything to help support it. That's all. Yeah. Because if they've already got somebody look looking at doing it, that's fine. That's great. And he's got the toys to do it. So that
would be good. Very good. Anything? Anybody else? Nope. I'll make a motion. Motion to adjurnn. We just get to that page. So that was Eric Norm and a second with Norm. All in
favor? Opposed? Abstain. Unanimous. And it is what? Uh 7:51.