Done. >> Okay. >> This is the Lake Management meeting starting at 7:00 and meeting is being recorded. And anyone else recording the meeting, please notify me. Don't see any guests.
>> And I don't see what's-his-name on there tonight. >> No. Okay. Uh take attendance. We have Norm Cheever. >> Here. >> Mike Coombs. >> Here. >> Uh Dick Granalds here. Paul Murphy. >> Here. >> Paul Yocum. >> Here. >> All right. Affirmed. Got it.
We have a quorum. All right. No guests right now. And read and approve the minutes. We just have the minutes from the 14th cuz Ellen still has been under the weather. >> Okay. Get better, Ellen.
>> Yeah. So, do we have any comments, anything on the on the minutes? Any changes? >> I don't have any changes. >> Anybody? >> Not me. >> Take a motion to accept. >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes as written. >> I second. >> See, second is
uh Paul M. All in favor? All right. Opposed? Abstain? Unanimous. Let me affirm. All right. Norm Cheever. >> Aye. >> Mike Coombs. >> Aye. >> Dick Granalds, aye.
Er uh Paul Murphy. >> Aye. >> Paul Yocum. >> Aye. >> All right. Affirmed. Done. All right. So, we don't have the minutes from the 5/28. We'll have those at the next one plus the minutes from tonight. >> Yeah. >> Um and the Concom update. >> Norm.
Okay. 14 Braden Drive was an RDA to remove three trees as it is to the house and we approved that RDA. And actually, I think they took them down already.
I think it's the same one. Um we did discuss the Turtle Cove situation. And we also kind of kind of also agrees it's a civil matter and he's I I just I
I don't know how we can get involved. The only thing the only thing is that the docks that are there do have to get registered and I think they did do the one the one that's kind of an H shape or
whatever you want to call it a U. That one I believe um Concom has that new drawing that shows that if I'm not mistaken. They have a newer drawing from last a different drawing than they had last year. >> Okay. Okay. So hopefully they can
capture the >> doesn't quite capture the the the what's there picture. >> Okay. >> It's close. >> It's close. Okay. And the one that's the one that's um the homeowner to the right
um Now he had a dock I believe last year. And I don't know whether he ever registered that one. But it he has a problem there cuz a lot of that's wetland. >> Yeah. >> And and it's tough to even find a place to put it. >> Okay.
>> Um and the other thing the only other thing that and again it's a civil matter is that there's a right of way or it's deeded to several of the people that are on on uh the the road there on Mayflower and also on Colony. >> Okay.
>> you have a right to access the water. >> Water. >> And we we don't know whether where that dock is whether it blocks access to the water. In other words you have to >> Does it actually show the access path to the water? >> on the map. >> Okay. >> Yep.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. It actually runs down the center of the road. >> Yeah. >> Oh is that how it is? Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> And it's in the deed. We actually had a they did give us a copy of it. But again, that's a civil matter. And she called again the other day and I said, you know, I
Yeah. There's not a lot we can do. >> You know. So, anyway, that's where that Thank you for that. Anything else on yours? >> Uh 159 Berkshire Avenue, site visit is tomorrow >> Mhm. >> at 10:30.
And I will be going to represent conservation. Sabrina's on vacation, so she can't go. >> Okay. >> And and that would be >> Did you see all of these pictures and everything? >> see those? Do you have that? >> I got the file. I have not >> I Well, I gave you the You have a copy
set of the pictures underneath there as a separate handout. >> all right. >> All right. So, you'll have something to work with. And those >> Yeah, okay. >> Yeah. >> Well, I got >> Yeah, I'll enjoy this stack from >> Oh, yeah, right here, right here. He's going to hurt you looking >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay. >> All right. Okay, got a conservation update from Southwick Southfield. Nothing. They canceled two meetings in a row. >> Okay. >> So, that is the update >> That's you. >> Come come.
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> Ampic. >> Ampic update. We still got one more completion to be submitted and approved by the end of this month. We're at 19 out of 20. The planning board is scurrying to try
to make that happen. >> And and that uh the other thing is that everybody's still I haven't gotten any input from anybody here about reading, and I put it back in here, reading the what we're responsible for,
making any comments, you know, about dates, um progress, whatever, you know. But everybody needs to take an action item and read that and please get me your stuff. >> This is under the master plan. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, okay. >> Under action.
>> We have one that's promised to be completed by a year from now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> But I just want to make sure that we're on the same on the same page. >> Yeah. But let me tell you, it takes a lot longer to do the pools and we only meet once a month. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> The pool groups don't meet. This town goes by fast. >> Okay. >> Anything else >> on M PIG? >> Uh one other quick item. We last time we had five four of organizations that hadn't submitted their
completion promises. And I did get the historical commission, so we still got three. The schools, parks and rec, and cultural council. And that's the M PIG update. >> Okay, thank you. CRC update. Um do you have anything,
Paul? >> Um >> Other than the parade? >> Um the golf tournament is on and it's supposed to be if I recall correctly, the 12th, I believe is a Saturday. >> Of what? >> September. >> September 12th, okay.
>> And then I imagine the 13th will be a rain date. >> Yeah. >> Is that at Edgewood? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And there hasn't been a formal announcement. Uh Michelle just touched on it briefly at the meeting. >> Okay. >> It's not up on their website yet or anything.
>> And the parade is scheduled for >> the fourth. >> The fourth with a rain date of the fifth. >> Yeah. >> And the the concert, from what I read on on your website, is the concert at Babs starts at 3:00. >> Mhm. >> And the parade that you gather at Babs
Beach and the parade starts at 5:00. Boat parade. >> That's what it Yeah, that's in the application, that's what it says here, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay, yep, I got that. Okay. >> All righty. Uh next on the hit parade, 129 North
Lake Ave. Anything new from ConCom on that? Probably you know. >> I have nothing new and I'm not sure it's who's who's going to solve the issue. >> Yeah, I'm not sure it's solvable. >> Because it's
you know, it's a civil matter. It's not a chapter 91 problem. >> Well, it is in the sense that it's a violation of not having either a local permit or >> chapter 91. >> Which is again, that's MassDEP.
You know. >> So, maybe we'll send something to the What's her name? Who we got? Perhaps. >> Oh, it's Cliff. >> Yeah, he's got some paperwork. He'll be recording. >> Cliff, are you going to be recording?
>> Yes, I will, Dick. Thank you. >> Okay. And I'm just going to so note. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. >> All right, got you. >> And that was at 7:08. Okay. Now, next
>> So, back on that, really no no one's not going to take in charge of that. Like like no one's saying the 91 don't even want to get involved, right? The state They're done. And they're not complying to LPP, so we can't stop them. >> They might That might change though because they do have a new
for they operated for a long time without uh a >> chapter 91. >> No, no, but I mean, when David Cameron left >> Oh, you're talking state. >> that state, right? And now there's a new and I he actually called me the other
night about 159 and they are getting involved. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Mhm, okay. >> And and uh so, he had he was on for Mark Stinson I had talked to Mark and Mark said he was going to fill the boss in
and he did. And so, the boss called me at home, you know, called me on my cell. And we were on probably half 3/4 of an hour. And he was, you know, kind of getting the lay of the land and he was going to then get a couple of his people involved
in it besides Mark and start probing. But the what he wanted was anything that conservation, lake management, we've been sending them lots. They have from us that tons of stuff. But if if you go through the files, I think what you'll
find is Dennis Clark when he was uh ConCom coordinator, uh he was down there and had taken photos, had taken and there were there was dialogue with with uh Balderelli and company. So you may find that in the records if
you dig back. >> I've got the folders at home, so I'll uh >> Okay. >> I'll I'll look I'll look through before the meeting. >> And these these photos are phenomenal because those photos take us back to 1996, I think. >> Okay. >> We can, you know, we can talk about that
when we get to that item. >> Okay. >> All right. So 129 North Lake, it just kind of has to sit until MassDEP does something. Uh 141 Congamond Road, that's over and done with and it'll come off our list because
>> The restaurant's there. >> Yeah, the restaurant cuz they they got the liquor license and he withdrew his request to change that all. And that thought of it praise. The 2026
Solitude Invasives, page 24 to 26, they did the first uh assessment and 25 and 6 show the maps. And there was so little um and and hydrilla was
virtually not existent right now. They can't It's It was too early. Uh these while they curlyleaf pondweed and and uh Eurasian watermilfoil they can see, but they couldn't see the hydrilla yet. So, they don't know it's it's not there
because it hasn't grown enough. Uh we did sign the agreement with Stantec to continue on with their eDNA uh process. >> Okay. >> And Solitude it's they're already on board to be
the treatment company and assessment and treatment and whatnot for 3 years. >> Good. >> They won that uh that bid. >> Okay. >> Uh which is good because they they know the place, you know, it's not you don't have to train anybody.
And the other the other one that had bid on it was way way higher and also didn't address a lot of the issues that they had to as part of the required required responses to the RFP. You know,
if you only answer 1 3 5 and 9, you're not eligible. So, uh and then the next thing the Army Corps hydrilla uh so, year three we're starting year three of the three-year grant
of the 250K grant. And I just issued the purchase order for Stantec to get them going. They gave us a, you know, uh a proposal. It's been accepted by us
and by uh DCR cuz the money comes from DCR. And they're under contract with DCR. >> So, okay. >> Yeah. We don't have It's great cuz we don't have to bid anything. >> Yep. >> You know. That's who selected. Um
The next one NCRS par is 34 to 40. And that's you can read that if you haven't already. That's the last meeting from the May progress meeting.
And we you know, like I said, it's it going on very, very well. I mean, we've got to find uh options. They're fine-tuning those, which we will learn about tomorrow. Are you going to be able to attend that? >> I'll be late because I'll be 1:59 at the
>> Oh, okay. Okay. But I'll be here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I think Eric's back or tomorrow. I think he was just going today. I'm not sure. Uh Ken Wagner couldn't make it. And can you make it? >> I'll be on Zoom. >> Oh, you'll be on Zoom or coming here? >> Teams.
I'll be online. I won't be here. >> Okay, you won't be here. You won't physically be here. Okay. I'll be physically here. Um And so, that's that is going very well. I did also turn in, which you have copies of, the uh
pages page 38 and 39. That's part of the economic benefits. >> And we look >> You probably have not seen that. >> Yep. >> And that took a lot to get from Southfield from uh Sabrina gave me North the North Prime
Conservation Area. Um Karen gave me Karen Shoot gave me the data for the for the uh beach. >> You know. >> How many And that I got the information for Babbs Beach from the director there. He dug that out for me.
And let's see what else is there. Uh rail trail. That came from data that uh Pioneer Valley planning does. And those are actual counts and they do a lot of those. And they they take them in all different places on it. So, that's really, really
good. >> Yeah. >> And then I when I did it, I with my email that I sent, I commented, you know, it's also the restaurants, the gas stations, the you know, uh other businesses that benefit >> Yep. >> from
all the people that that use Congamond. So, any rate, uh they like I said, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's meeting cuz cuz they have really been working. They've done a lot of what was needed for MEPA and for um
something cultural. I don't know. They There's been groups out there checking to make sure there is or is not anything that uh if if work gets done, could it impact >> Yep. >> something that you're not supposed to
do. Um and you see the Stantec, I gave you that uh giving the go-ahead. And then, what's really kind of good, um is on page 42,
so, the watershed based plan, we have put in our threw our hat in the ring with it. It's a very lengthy process to create what I did. Um
The two pages that you see here >> Mhm. >> were a combination of my writing, uh giving it to Eric, adding some more water quality stuff, to Ken Wagner. He did his. Then,
the attachments are are critical because you're allowed you're I only two page >> paper, that's >> it. >> So, those are two full pages. And and I didn't go to resort to micro type. But, um
I did attach Eric's entire he gave he gave me the latest and greatest everything he has on water quality. And I commented in here about the original water quality started by CRC
and and it was Mike White. I don't know how many of you guys remember Mike White. But, uh you know, he was doing that for a while. And we actually wound up getting some of their equipment when they when he left, they turned over
their equipment which was not a lot, you know, we have a lot more equipment now today for monitoring. And uh then I also attached the our art well our water quality but uh
Ken Wagner's report. Remember he's one that was about a half an inch thick? For the yeah, for the Yeah, alum treatment. So, that had a lot of water quality data in it. So, I'm hoping that we make the cut, you never know.
It won't be for a lack of trying. Um >> [clears throat] >> and then So, that watershed base plan and what's nice is that if you're not familiar with that, this CEI uh
is is Bob Hartzell is the one that's the focus for and that's where we had to email all that information to. So, they're supposedly the choice will be made, the selection will be made by the end of the month, by the end of June.
And it has to be blessed, the recommendation will come from CEI to MassDEP. MassDEP will go yay variable yay variable yay or no, you know, or you know, negotiate. >> [clears throat] >> So, it's supposed to happen by the end
of June. And the good thing here is if if we do get it, CEI will do the grunt work for creating the watershed based plan, the nine-step plan. >> Okay. >> Which is really good.
You know, they'll we'll have to provide data, but they will you know, they will ask all the right questions and put the words to the paper. >> Mhm. Great. >> Yeah. So, let's hope. >> Yep.
>> And like I said, 159 we kind of hit already. You've got the package with all the recent photos. Those are are really interesting when you when you look at them. Uh they go back.
I put them in order of date. So, the first photo that you have, which is on page two, is the only photo that's on the east side of the road. In other words, on the lake side of the road. All the other ones, you can see that area always was underwater.
>> Mhm. >> And there's endless endless photos of it over many years, '86, '01, uh '86, '99, uh '01, uh
'06. And I think there's one more. Yeah, and several in '06, different times of the year. So, that and the comment that was made, which you have in the in the uh email that I transmitted with
uh is that the the person that saw it was describing how their kids used to go down there and they weighed and and whatnot and the summertime was a nice place to cool off.
And in the winter they'd skate on it. And you can see the vegetation, you know, the trees and the vegetation and everything else. And they're most of these are in color, by the way. So uh I do have the color ones with me and I scanned them in color. So if you need them for uh
what I sent you >> in color? >> are in color, yes. Yeah, so I scanned them all in color. So anybody that's looking at them, I just didn't want to print everything in color. >> Do you know what year the country club made all the changes? >> You mean like like
the pond and >> Yeah. >> No. >> Cuz that changed water flow. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It'd be nice to know in relation to these pictures. I think country club would have
done their thing after some of these pictures. >> I believe so. >> Well, they have been >> Yeah. But the other thing to keep in mind is that there's The other thing to keep in mind is that there's a it's um it's called a water course and and I'm very familiar with it because when we were
doing the work on the drainage work on Sheep Pasture Road uh I had to go look at all those deeds on those properties and there is water that flows behind the houses that are on the east side of
Sheep Pasture Road. And it flows little literally over the ground in the water course. >> Okay. >> That water course goes along, picks up the water from the overflow from the pond >> Yeah. >> and then it turns, so it's heading
basically south. Then it turns kind of east. So it goes past the pond, then it turns east, goes under the goes along the the rail trail on the west side for a little bit. Then
it ducks under through a good size box culvert. It's a like I think I like a 4-ft if I remember correctly, 4x4 granite box culvert. And and then it turns south again when it comes out of there
and it runs along the rail trail for quite a distance, hundreds of feet. And that you've had pictures of those that I had emailed >> Yeah. >> one time ago. And then then it turns uh easterly kind of southeasterly then easterly and
and then it got moved and that's part of the problem is that it it wasn't it's not where it used to be. The bed of that intermittent stream got shifted to the north. So it used to be further over further
towards the farmland. Okay. So that got moved. >> Yeah. >> And and the impoundment area got added and an earthen dam and then the dam failed in 2019. So and there were no permits for any of that.
>> Right. >> So that so this gives you well before um all the trees were stripped these photos. And you can actually confirm that with the uh aerial maps
that are on the town website. They you know, went from being far totally forested to basically nothing taller than a half an inch. >> Since since I've been back here I've not seen water at this level in
there at all. >> Well, part of what we did when the when the uh the we did the detention pond on the other side. >> Yeah. >> We cleaned the the outlet the outlet was
clogged on the east side. >> Okay. >> And so as part of that was to restore that and and there's a four bank >> Okay. >> and then the the detention pond and then there's a
gabion basket notched wall >> Yep. >> and then a a long grass swale that has a bit of a curve to it. And so at that time it relieved the what was
happening cuz it just clogged >> for >> probably decades. >> Okay. >> So at any rate and and at the time these photos were taken it was all wetlands and everything in there and that's what Dennis had seen when he went down there back
the probably maybe in the 20 15 2016 somewhere in there. It's you can see it on the aerials. You can see where the trees disappeared. >> Right. >> So it was before the trees disappeared is when they started to disappear.
>> Yeah. >> So anyway, I thought that would probably help you. Um Now next we're getting near the end. Quickly one page separate. 157 Feeding Hills Road. Do you know did
they you know did they grapes did they approach you guys yet? >> They have not submitted an they're going to modify their RDA or give us an RDA. We have not seen that yet. >> And what's interesting is I'm kind of curious how they can
actually do that under an RDA because unless they defined how they're going to make sure that those absolutely do not break loose. The only way you can do that is using helical screws. >> Yeah. >> Or you'd have to drive, you know, pylons
in. You need something that's going to prevent them from taking off. Right. >> Right. >> Do you Do you have a drawing or anything? Or Or you don't even have that? You said they haven't submitted anything. >> seen I haven't seen anything. >> I would ask that as soon as you get something, would you share that with us? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Um and unless Let's see. Did I have to put anything on the end of there? I don't think so. I think we are Yeah, I think [clears throat] we've covered everything. Let's see. Anchor
ramps. Um >> How are we doing on the uh >> Oh, the navigation lights and buoys. >> Bricks, yeah. You got to You got to not not bricks, you mean? >> I'm hoping that we have uh Michelle, did Have you heard anything more about that?
Michelle, apparently somebody on Berkshire Avenue Do you know who that is? >> Um yeah, Linda Champney. >> Okay, I've heard that name. >> And I believe he's got bricks, a bunch of them. So, it's basically I believe you tell us
how many more you need and you can get them from her. >> We We would need We've got 20 something buoys we've covered. We have 24 buoys or 26 buoys, something like that. And we've done probably six.
So, you need three bricks per buoy. So, say you know, like 60 bricks roughly. And I have made the uh the the stainless steel cables and everything ready to drag them through bricks and
And Rick Willett came over today. He went out and he fixed there was there was a a buoy over a danger buoy over on one of the old ice house pier. >> Oh, is that right? >> Yeah, and it was people are having trouble getting around it to their
docks. So they asked if we could move it. >> Is that over on South Pond? >> No, on Middle Pond. >> On Middle Pond. >> Yeah, it's just down from us. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. So at any rate, uh he took care of that today. And he said as soon as we get the uh the bricks
And then I think Mark said he was going to go out or somebody was going to this a volunteer sent in the in these emails a volunteer's name that volunteered to Michelle. And that information got shared with
Mark and with uh Rick and Eric and myself. So we've got somebody who said that he would go out and help install those. My recommendation is whoever installs them cuz I did one. I did the first one. And
that you use a uh snap ring and a and a rope. And have the rope tied to the boat. So if you lose it, you know, if you it doesn't go to the bottom. >> [laughter] >> But they're they're easy to install. You
just snap them on the on the ring on the bottom of the buoy. >> [clears throat] >> Um and and the other thing I've been talking with uh Rick today was he he asked about the ice. He says, "They're easy to remove, right?" You know, I said, "Oh, yeah, very easy." He says,
"Cuz I don't want to drag the buoys out with a pile of bricks attached to them." >> [laughter] >> So we took care of that. Um Um This chat one of the thing again, I just
want to bring it up so that we we kind of if if we have to do something, let's do it. Remember we had the issues with chapter 75 12, section 12, about sunken vehicles, you know?
And that has to be a change to that that uh bylaw. So, we should focus maybe the next meeting on the exact words we want. We know what we want to do. That we talked about already. We just have to kind of
get it wordsmith it and then turn it over to uh we'll get it to Nicole. And they'll get it to the select board and then it goes to they'll they'll wind up with a uh hearing and all that stuff. And then it
goes to town council to wordsmith it and make it into legalese, you know? So, we got to get that process going. Cuz they probably will have, you know, we usually have a uh winter special town meeting. That'd be the time to >> Oh, okay.
>> hitch on that. Don't wait a whole year. >> Mhm. >> Um so, you know, take a look at 75 12 and make any recommendations you want. And and look at the past, you'll see where we talked about it and I can email
if you want. >> Yeah. >> Email change. >> Okay. And the last thing that he had because we were talking about it earlier is the nighttime speeding is really out of control. It's >> Mhm. >> There's there's jet skis out there in
the dark towing people. Uh there's jet skis racing up and down. Boats racing up and down. Some with lights, some without lights. Uh you got jet skis that that can do 50, 60, 70 mph.
And The guy who sees them is this guy. >> Yeah. >> I can see them down the other end of the lake, but they've got They've got to be going by now. >> Oh, yeah. >> Probably making a big turn down there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> to see them all. >> Yeah. And,
you know, before somebody winds up at the bottom of the lake, and we need to get something going. I I The one thing >> My personal note on that is more people on the lake need to call. >> Yes. And that's what I was told by the
chief and >> in their side. >> sergeant about that. >> Yeah. The guy calls and it's like, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's Mike Holmes again." Yeah, okay. >> Yeah. >> And I get that guy that's I don't know where he's at. He doesn't even know where Congamond Lake is when I talked to him. >> Cuz they go to Westfield.
>> Yeah. I'll pass it along. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I'm not going to call 911. >> No. >> So, they're not local. >> other way you can do it is you can dial um 5348, the the police department, and then
there's a you can get these the sergeant that's on >> on duty? >> on the on duty. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah, you can call 5348 and there's an option where you get the sergeant on duty. >> Oh. >> And that's probably the better way, cuz now you're not going through
>> Yeah, it goes out to Westfield. >> Cuz they they don't understand. >> Right. >> You know, they really don't. >> He just said, "I'll pass it along." >> Yeah. And so, at least that way you get one of our >> Right. >> Mhm. >> own >> Yeah. >> town sergeant. So, that's what I would
recommend. You know, you call 569-5348 and take the option that gets you to the sergeant. Um I think >> I I I I'm I'm always just concerned. I just don't want to see anybody get hurt. No, that's all it is. >> Yeah. Well, you you mean one of our one
of our selectmen had a boat go right through his. >> And something happened after that. But unfortunately, you don't want it to be the accident that now we got to do something about it, Someone gets hurt or killed. >> Yeah.
Okay. Does anybody else have anything? >> I'm good. >> Everybody good? >> I'm good. >> Entertain a motion to adjourn. >> I move. >> I'll second. >> All M
second, all Y. And all in favor? >> All right. >> Opposed? >> Abstain. >> Unanimous. We're out of here. >> That was probably the fastest meeting we've ever had. >> And I'll let Ellen know. Ellen