David Dori will open the meeting for the Southwick Park and Recreation for Wednesday, February 11th, 2026. Um, in attendance right now, myself, David Dori, um Dan Welch and Cara Cartella.
We're missing one member, but we're going to start off um public comment. Diane Gail would like to tell us about the proposed dog park in town. Thank you. Diane Gail, Five Point Grove Road. I am
here as a private resident of the town and as one of the founders and the chair of the Friends of the South Dog Park. We are a 501c3 corporation. Um, our mission is to build a um
a dog park in Southwick and uh hope that it will be a model for all other cities and towns to want to replicate. We have been working on this project um a couple of us for a couple of years independently and then we kind of found
each other and combined forces back in 2024 23 actually. Um and after a very long time we were able to get a piece of property donated to
the organization. It is at 67 Hudson Drive. That's in here also. >> Yep, that's in there. >> Take a peek at that. This is 32 acres of
property and um about 22 or 23 acres of it is unbuildable wetlands, um wooded wetlands and and kind of open wetlands. and about 10 acres available for park
use. Our mission has always been to um raise public awareness, support and promote the dog park and its adjacency to the rail trail to ensure access and
enjoyment by all ages. We have been looking very hard for a place to plant the dog park and have um more parking available for the bike trail because we very as you know very limited parking there and we've we've talked about that informally a number of times.
>> Yep. >> Um so what you have on your map there, the hatch marks there are of course the wetlands and the unbuildable portion. The dog park is above that shadowed line and below the shadowed line is the
intended rail trail parking. Uh some of the great features we're looking at, you know, traditional dog park, you normally have a large dog, small dog. We are also um planning to have a senior section and that would be for senior dogs as well as senior humans
who may be intimidated going into the pits with young rambunctious or bigger dogs. Um, we also want to have a Kinder Pup kind of area where first timers can come and get acclimated away from all the hubhub and just kind of get used to
the thing. Um, and then possibly another one that is a training area. So, we might invite um private trainers to come in and hold sessions in a in a sectioned off area um if we've got room in our in our sketch for that.
The dock park itself will have there will be no permanent surface, no um impervious surfaces. Everything is going to be permeable. Um and as low maintenance as possible. There's going to be no plowing. There's going to be no
whatever plantings we're going to put in there are going to be indigenous plants. They will be flea and tick retardant plants. Ground surfaces, we're not going to put in wood chips because that requires replenishment periodically. would not want that. I've researched um
the best dog parks and it is a tumbled stone a good depth of tumbled stone again for permeable ability and sanitation purposes. Um and then there's no mowing of course we're not going to make this a it's not a garden, it's a dog park.
And we are going to have a solar component. And the plan is to have covered parking carports with solar panels on top for both the dog park and the rail trail parking. Those would be lit a half hour
before and a half hour after sunlight so stragglers can find their way safely back to their cars. Um, we are not going to require a lot of power in this except for the lights and we'll have lot um, uh, cameras in there
as well. U, but all of the other electric energy that we generate will be credited to the town of Southwick for use on whatever utility bills we have. >> And Wall-E Park will be one of those utility bills. Uh but we'll let the town
decide where that would go. Uh which which accountant they would direct that to. Um so um and finally the third thing you see a shadowed line through the middle of the property on that map that
is um there's been a a project for connecting Sam West to Hudson Drive for many many many years. That shadow roughly replicates the most current plan for that roadway that was
in front of conservation and the planning board some >> that would split it in half. >> Um and if the timing works out right, we would be in our construction phase of our dog park and parking area for the
rail trail. At the same time, the road work is beginning. So, we can flex if that changes. Um, we can flex to meet any requirements they have. Um, and it saves the town. But if we if the town
accepts the gift of this park, they also receive all that property to put the road in. So, even if you don't like dogs, there's a benefit to you as a taxpayer to accept this gift. Oh, and the other
thing is is we're going to drill a well. So, people didn't like the splash park at Wally Park for the water reasons. >> We're going to drill a well. There's no water bill to the taxpayers either. So, we've given a a ton of thought to making this
an unencumbered gift. When you say this goes to the town, will you be managing it or the >> when we when we when we complete the entire project, we envision in turning the entire parcel
over to the town for the town's use and management. And again, we the only maintenance we anticipate is adding one more route on the trash pickup. And we'll have volunteers like you do with the with the rail trail
organization that will be in there picking weeds and you know if the replenishing the poop bags and things like that. This would we envision this would just be one more route on the trash pickup to all the grounds. Again, no no plowing, no mowing, no
>> so if it's like this outside, it's basically shut down. Okay. Weather permitting. If you if you want to hike in there with snowshoes and your dog, okay, if you can get in there, right? Um >> well, that happens at the park. >> I know.
>> Even after that last mouse. >> I know. So, um that's the overview of it and you know the benefits to the dog owners, the benefit to the bike trail users, the benefit um for travelers along the bike trail. Um benefits for
the taxpayers on that benefit for DPW in building that road. Um welcome your thoughts on it. And in your packet um we're going to start our um applications for grants. We're of
course looking for support letters from the town agencies and from businesses in town and residents to support the project to go in our grant application package. There's a template in there that you can follow if the board determines they support the project
>> everything. >> Yep. And um of course if you have any questions free to provide you answers on that. This this something you're looking at park and wreck overseeing eventually
it would be park or would it be open space because we have now that open space committee um and everything but >> and again and it could be conservation it could be carved up I don't know I mean that would be a town discussion >> okay >> at at that point uh most of it is
conservation it could fall under cons I don't know >> or it could be split up the these two sections would be >> in the earlier phase of >> I mean that that would be a town decision where where they would want to assign that. I mean I don't anticipate there would be a conservation
restriction on it. We're just giving it, you know, the the project without incumbrance. >> As far as the solar, have you done any research into how much power you'll draw out with the >> um one of my partners is a union
electrician and he has a lot of contacts in in that solar arena. Um, and we're in the ground phases of that. It depends. It depends. It depends on if we're going to go with this or
um exactly how we're going to do it and how we apply for it. >> Okay. I was just curious because we're got to do something with the park too with the lighting up there. >> Yes. Oh, we hope we're going to generate oodles of electric credits
one way or another. That is a that is a big goal because I know that the Wally Parve lights that that eats mind it eats at me too and how can we do that and that has been a big focus in in my search for the property. Where can I put solar in there as well?
>> Har's been dealing with the company too as far as trying to switch lights out to LED instead of what's on there and see. >> Yeah. >> Hopefully that'll make some difference. >> Yeah. >> But it's still crazy. Okay. Yeah. I'd like to take a look.
>> I encourage you to do so. And um again, if you have any questions after, you can funnel them through your chair and get you an answer. Look at these flip. So, I appreciate your time and working me in there real quick. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> So, thank you. Looks great.
>> Thank you very much. >> Okay. Next up, Anthony. >> Would you mind if I take a picture >> of us or of him presenting? >> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yes. >> Big smile. >> Um, as you heard us talking before, we
only have two members here tonight. Um, so we can't give you a yes or a no or or debate on your project, but we'll listen to it and give you some ideas what we think, but we can't do anything definitive until next month when we have a whole board meeting because we can't
discuss everything outside of meetings either. So, we're looking at beginning of March before we'd be able to give you a decision, but we we'll let you know where we are with things. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> So, what do you have? Um uh first I'd
like to say u thank you for giving me the opportunity to present this project. And so uh my name is Anthony Stefan. Uh I'm a life scout with a trip 114 out of southern Massachusetts. I moved here from Missouri when I was like in when I was in fifth grade and I've been active in the community and I've been
volunteering like since I moved here. And uh like with some of that volunteer work is like scouting for food and uh like past eagle projects and now I'm like trying to contribute to my own eagle project. >> Okay. Did you work on any of the other
ones on the rail trail? >> Uh you know the Sean? >> I worked on Sean. >> Okay. >> That was a pretty fun one. >> Yeah, that was a lot of work. >> Yeah. Um, and the project is going to be three uh it's going to be three library boxes
on the rail trail. So that way commuters uh they can uh like uh walk the trail and like see a book so they can like they can read a book as they're walking or like go to a bench and just sit down and enjoy it. >> Okay. Did you have any spots you were thinking on the trail
>> uh for those or you're kind of up in the air at this point? >> Uh I was uh want to get your guys' approval on what the on what the best spots would be. >> Okay. Um, well, we we just got everything a few days ago, so we I I mean, I could
we have one on Miller Road. Um, there's a kiosk down there and bicycle repair station. If you're on Miller Road, are you familiar with that? Where the parking is? >> Yeah, because that was one of the ones Sean did, right? I think he >> Yeah, that would be near mile marker
one. >> Close to that. >> On what road? on Miller Road down by where the Congaban Cafe is kind and across the street from that. That's just my thoughts on it. Um not
sure if you thought of anything else. >> I haven't. Uh so you you you're going to have library books or people donate books and put them in? >> Oh yeah, that's the plan. >> I'm uh I'm going to try I'm going to get like a library book donations and uh my grandma's donating a bunch of books to
me for the library boxes. But um um I hadn't really thought about other places. Have you thought about maybe at Wall-E Park to do one? >> I have not. >> Because we oversee the park and the rail trail. This is just my thoughts on it. I
mean, that might be a suggestion. We have a pavilion up there that's used quite a bit and plenty of parents that are up there all the time for ball games >> throughout most of the year starting the end of March. And I was just like I was thinking about putting like near like
the benches too. >> Okay. Yeah. The the only other I know there's we have quite a few benches. There's one kind of in the middle by where the um trail access goes to the rail trail a house that's kind of a ways away from
everything. We also have benches by there's a portal at also down by Being Hills Road Route 57. I mean, these are just suggestions. I'm not saying go with this kind of thing. I'm not sure if you have other ones, Dan. >> I I do know that there's one going to be
installed. If it hasn't been, I don't think it has because of the snow. There' be a library box being installed by the park and congregational church. >> Oh, by the Rotary Club. The kids from the high school. Where where's that going to go? right in the
parking lot by the the memorial park and the corner of by the by the congregational church. >> Okay. >> It's been built but just hasn't been installed yet because of all been approved. I know that >> so I keep
>> sure. Yeah. Sorry. Um, uh, the boxes, um, they're going to be made out of wood and they'll have a plexiglass doors. Um, and for like the post, I was thinking of a steel sign post, cylinder
chain link fence post or um, 4x4s. And I was like wondering what you guys think would be the best like option. >> Um, as far as the you were looking at a metal post or a wood post. >> Mhm. I personally I think probably a metal one. I mean, we don't have a lot
of vandalism on the trail, but when we do, it's I'd hate to see you go through all this and have it knocked over or lit out fire, that kind of thing. So, I mean, a metal post would probably be a little more durable and longer lasting.
>> And what post would be better like like you know, the post for like a chain link fence or like a sign post, what do you think would be the better one? Um chain link fence post would probably 3 in like totally on the support side but
something like that and the um the post will um be cemented by the trail. Um, and I and I'm sorry. Uh, I'm sorry. >> You're fine. We are fine.
>> Oh, this one it was um they'll be submitted by the trail and it was just like going over like asking like your input on the location, but we already went through that. Yeah, we like I say, we could I Cara could probably send out an email with our different
locations just so the board has it before the next meeting and we can make a decision next meeting on that. >> All right. >> And I can get back to you with the locations that they choose. >> Thank you.
>> And then I'll uh I'll try to seek community support for uh for the books. Like I said, uh I have my grandma because she's moving, so she's uh gonna like get me a bunch of books for the project. >> Okay. I'm sure probably won't have too
much trouble rounding up books. >> And you can always like find free books everywhere. >> Absolutely. We have one at the beach. >> Um and there seems to be books popping up all the time. People see it and they'll just bring it the next time they come. So it doesn't seem to be a problem with >> Yeah.
>> books showing up. And uh for a timeline, uh once I uh once I uh receive your guys's approval, I'd have to get approval by uh uh by the Eagle Council. And then once all that's done, I'll install I'll try to install
the boxes when spring comes or when the frost line is like not frosted over. >> Yeah, usually after April 1, I mean, the ground should be pretty clear there. Something like that. If you're digging into the trail, we'd have to call Dig Safe once we get the locations. >> Yeah.
>> Just to make sure you're not going into anything. >> Oh, and uh for building the boxes, it'll uh cuz the boxes will be built uh like once the approval is like gone through, the boxes will be built at my school by uh because I go to, you know, Putinham
uh in in Springfield. >> Yeah. >> So, I've been talking to the carpentry teachers about this. So they've been giving me their input on like their opinions and they're they'll be helping with the building. So I'll be supervising like that class and then they'll also be help supervising and
they're also one of them is a past Eagle Scout and the other one is also another Boy Scout. >> Well, that should help you out then. >> That's great. >> And do you have a timeline you had to have it done by for your Eagle badge?
like a date you had to have it finished up on your end or you just looking sometime in the springtime to >> I'm looking for like some time in the spring to get it done but like as quick as possible. >> Okay. >> You have any other questions, Dan? >> Nope.
>> Good idea. >> Okay. Do you have any other other questions for us? We'll we'll do that. We'll try to find like pin down a few locations and get something out to you. >> All right. And >> what's the date of your next meeting? >> Um, >> sorry. Second Wednesday.
>> Second Wednesday of March. >> So, is it 11th? Is it looking >> March 11th? >> Could be with short months. Who's running? Okay. Any other questions for those guys?
>> Mr. How you doing 58 beating those road south. How many do you plan on building? >> Uh three. >> If you'd like, I can supply you with the steel for the pipe. >> Actually, >> to do that and I can do the You need a base to put that on on top of that pipe.
It just doesn't sit on top. So I can get that fabricated for you and supplied. So let me know how many you need when the time comes. >> Awesome. >> All right. Thank you. >> You might want to get his. >> Yeah. >> I'll get that. I'll get that right. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> 4136. Or just go get ice cream. >> Or just go get ice cream. >> Thank you. Yeah. 4132462377.
>> Sorry, I didn't get your name. >> Jod. >> Okay. >> If you like me, that's what you call me. There's other names. >> 2277. >> 2277. >> Awesome. >> You want us to write down number?
>> Okay. I'll tell you the same thing. >> I already heard you, sir. No need to repeat yourself. >> Okay. >> Strictly forformational purposes. >> Okay. Well, that's all you're getting tonight anyway. >> That's wonderful. >> Thank you. >> The stress is off. I feel better. I was nervous. You know, >> I was here yesterday. Same meeting and
uh you know, since social media is such a great thing, they I've been picked apart about wearing shitty clothes. So, >> I have a different sweater on tonight. So, hopefully when they check the tapes, I look a little different. >> Who were you meeting with last night? I met with the historical society to go over the 250th anniversary of the town, sir. >> Oh, can I get another mention
>> for the state, I should say. >> So, my name is Joe Di. I represent the South Civic Fund. At least that's my hat this evening. >> All right. >> Um, and as you folks know, we have stuff coming up. Our date and I'm here tonight and and
I'll come back in March also. August 15th is what we tenatively have scheduled for fireworks and a parade. Our applications for parades is ready to go. Yes, I'm aware I have to pull the JOD parade permit. It's funny that permit came up last year and it started
in 1975, believe it or not, and it was started to do um funerals. You needed a permit to do a funeral back then and somehow fireworks got involved. So, I I I credit the town for taking the time to dig up those old permits just to do a little research on Joe Dei. That's wonderful.
>> So, moving forward now I'm being a wise ass. >> Let's keep you on your toes. >> Yeah, keep me on my toes, which is good. So, we plan on the parade starting at 2 o'clock. It's going to leave the Grismmail Plaza and upon the approval of this board, we
would like it to end at Wall-E Park. So, what I'm looking to do is borrow Wall-E Park that day. The fireworks will still be done at Motocross. And just for information purposes, every year I've done fireworks, we always list the town on our insurance policy. Last year there
was some rigomearo about insurancees. We we've always listed it. the fireworks company actually list it right on their policy just so we're all on the same page. And of course, the Civic Mon carries a unlimited policy as far as people go and everything else. So, in in the rec center and the town is always
listed on that. >> You guys can stay and listen or you can >> and you can enjoy the show if you'd like. I don't want you. >> We'll get out of here. So, >> okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. So our thought process is >> you're looking for the park just before
we keep going. Right after Yeah. But right after the parade or >> Yeah. I mean food trucks will be coming in. I And I don't know if the food trucks are just going to stay on the motocross facility or if they're going to sneak over not by your pavilion down by where that gate is open where we all
go back and forth. >> Yeah, that seems like it would make a lot of sense. >> Yeah. I just don't know how to I do have rides coming this year again. So we're fortunate to have those. Um, and they will be free to the children also, just like last year. >> So, they be set up, Joe. >> Those are set up on the motocross site,
too. Really, what we use in years past, we've always used Wally Park for the parking, right? That's really the gem. Um, and it's nice to say they're at Wall-E Park. And I know it's not the Town Fireworks, it's the South Civic Fund fireworks. I got to get that right every every year now. >> Well, it's funny you say that. Is it
funny? as well cuz uh when I say you did a lot of research on on who sponsors fireworks >> so that that's interesting. >> It's not not towns like out of all the towns it's all private groups and nonprofits that sponsor the fireworks everywhere.
>> Westfield actually does them with sponsorship money, but everything goes through they have a gentleman upstairs that handles all that kind of stuff. >> Through the mayor's office. >> Yeah. through literally through the mayor's office. Yeah. Yeah. That's where I pull my filaments every year when we
do the fireworks over there. Um but yeah, most towns it's the nonprofit. >> Yeah. >> That tells every single one that you came up >> years ago. We you know, let's the fire department did it for forever. They did a beautiful job, right? And you know, there was probably a little bit of funding through the town there at one
point. Not so much to you guys, but just just the way it worked. Yeah. >> And when they gave it up, there was no funding through the town. Um, at one point you guys had some dollars in your account over the years and you would donate, I don't know, 500, 800, whatever you could. Um, and and and we always appreciated that. But at the end of the
day, I think last year it was either Wall-E Park Water for the spray park. And did you guys get the bill for the spray park water yet? >> Yes. Um, >> isn't it enlightening? It's not It wasn't huge money. >> No. >> At all. No. >> It was nice to see that. >> Yeah. >> It really It really was.
>> The spray park opened was it June 30th? >> Yeah. Because everybody was saying we weren't open a full season and we almost were. >> You almost were. And in the dollars that it was, you' never >> Yeah. Was it 10 grand >> that we budgeted? >> No, you you budgeted 15 grand, right?
>> But I think it came up to like nine. >> I don't even think it was that high. >> I have to look. >> I had requested all the numbers. >> Have like a month of like the month of June, >> right? The good news is it's the line item. Yeah. >> Right. You got you know the >> world's falling went away. >> Yeah. >> Right.
>> It was scary. And you know even at the right everyone heard spray park and and I'm no different. I hear spray park. I see Agawam. >> I see spray park. >> Yeah. >> You guys have a puddle. >> You just do and it works. You don't have 10 miles of a spray park. You have a
nice little patch over there. The size is probably perfect real estate. >> Exly. Yeah. It's not a place you go to that you're going to spend 12 hours at. >> It's just not, you know, but you go the you know I got three little grandchildren. >> Yeah. I don't think we've been I haven't
brought them there yet anyway, so I'm sure they snuck over there last year. Um, so yeah, it works out fine. And in last year, we got almost close with the town buying the fireworks because the year before with us building the new food pantry, I just it just I think I was burnt out. It just didn't happen.
Um, so last year the approach was, well, the town's going to do it. Great, wonderful. Right. We I think the civic nicely said, you can write the check. Here's the company. We'll gladly run it for you. You know, just so it's so it's smooth. Um, >> and we chose the water bill over fireworks, which was fine. That's the
right thing to do. And um, and we raised the money. But this town has some great donors that uh, quite honestly, the year we didn't have them, my phone blew up during the 4th of July from everyone that's like, I can't believe you're not doing this. And we did throw a um, a
Hail Mary pass, but the fire department, the state fire inspector has a time frame that you have to follow. So, I had funding in my pocket from certain people, but I couldn't we just couldn't pull it off because of the dates and the fire the state fire inspector. So, we
didn't have them, but the pass was thrown, which was wonderful >> to see it last minute like that. So, this year we plan on raising the money. It's 14,000 for fireworks. It's 6,000 for the rides. the rides seem a little high, but the nice part is when I raised that money, or we should say we raised
that money. Um, we don't have to charge the kids for it. And I tell you what, we had a million happy parents last year. >> Oh, yeah. >> I wish they kind of volunteered to help because I was in charge of the slide or I was in charge of one of them. I was tired by the end of the night. I can tell you that. And the nice part about
these rides is there's no motors. So, it's all the kids doing everything. So even the little mini slide we had, they had to walk up that, right? So they want to go down it a 100 times, they were walk times. Yeah. >> You know, and they were probably tired little munchkins when they got home. >> That night.
>> Yeah. It was a great night. So the idea is uh food trucks and bands, as you know, the civic fund um on Thursday nights has a concert series over there, jam, band jam they call it. So all the senior citizens that play instruments show up over there and they play all
night. So, I have a ton of people that it's actually worked out very well cuz they could be in a band, but on Thursday nights they're not playing. So, they're over there playing the drums. Um, so I have quite a few bands that have gladly said, "It's on us. We're coming." So, I
don't right now I don't have to pay for any musicians. >> Um, so we have music from probably looks like 3:30 we're hoping the parade's over. So from 3:30 to when the fireworks go off, we will have live music and the food trucks and the rides. So it should
be pretty much fun. The only thing I'd like to put on your property if if if it comes to fruition is we're in talks with a ton of reenactment groups, but believe it or not, of all towns, Sturbridge is having events on the same
day. Really? And Sturbridge is very popular when it comes to all the reenactments and all of that stuff. >> Yes. >> So, we're hoping to pull some of those groups and have some in the parade and then, you know, maybe a camp setup at Wally Park to to show the old way when
they did their camping and whatnot. Um, and we'll see. And I will get go to you before that happens so you understand exactly who is there >> um as vendors or as >> Yeah. Yeah. Or will be questioned about it. >> Oh, you will be questioned about it. you'll be questioned tomorrow as soon as
I leave this meeting. >> Um, which is fine. >> Well, thanks for showing up then. >> Yeah. No, it's all good. You know, hey, listen, the town wants to get involved a little bit. That's that's wonderful news. It really is. Um, but >> No, you've done a great job the last few years. I was up there >> Yeah. >> with the donations with the cars coming
in and >> Yep. Yep. And and and honestly, Doug Mglin for a million years now. He gets the my orange buckets and he and he's over there and and Yes. You don't have to pay a penny. You can drive right by and flip them off. Absolutely. Um and where you can stop and put five down. I know they did. Yeah.
>> You know those politicians, you know, they can only do so much, >> but um it's all good. So that's what we're planning. Um we'd love for you guys to be on board as far as um you know, donating the use of the park like you have in the past. I will pull permits so no one's upset. Um I don't
know. You got any questions? >> Um no. I think it ran pretty smooth last year. >> I think it was a good crowd. It wasn't dry over the lawn. >> No, God forbid that ever happens. I would be beside myself. I usually go back the next morning. I pick up the trash early around 4:00 a.m. Um I try to
leave it like we found it, you know, and it and it has seemed to work out. So, yeah, we're excited. Um there's a lot of a lot of more moving parts and things may happen, you know, it may become bigger. >> Yeah. Will you >> right now? I'd say tenatively, yeah,
that >> No, that's fine. We can't wait tonight. >> I can't I can't >> No, make a decision. But >> usually I'm in the week before. So >> Okay. >> Early this year. >> I'm early this year. >> And even the fundraising we're going to start early because >> I mean when do you when do you need a definite on because we meet again.
>> Oh, I've already committed to everything. You know that. >> Okay. >> So, whatever you can do will be great because if it doesn't work out, >> I can move stuff to the pits at Motocross. It just be a little different, you know. But Wally Park is such a beautiful area and it's nice to
show it off. worked out good. >> The fireworks from there. >> They do. They do. Yeah. It's amazing how many people show up late, right? >> But boy, they show up. We can pack them in over there. >> Yeah, that place. >> It's very impressive. >> Yeah. And it's not like we're going to have the rides or anything else going on there or shooting fireworks.
>> No, nothing. It's really They park there. They put their lawn chairs out as you see and they enjoy it, you know. I think the biggest thing we laugh about is if the sprinklers come on or not. >> But it's cute. >> Yeah, >> it happens. >> Text John tomorrow, >> you know. It's It's cute.
>> Is there Is there should we block out that day from noon to on? >> Well, that's what I was just going to ask. Like skip ball games that day. >> I think last year was a game that morning, right? Yeah, >> it was it was close. >> Day of the week. Is it Saturday? >> It is a Saturday. We Sunday you got to pay overtime with the police.
>> Oh. >> So, we you know, we we only go with Saturdays and we're trying to stay out of the center of town. >> Um, >> believe it or not, we did have a state permit last year for the center of town. Uh, I just guess I was supposed to tell the town I had one, but the police chief actually pulled it. So, yeah, the right people knew. Um,
>> which way you going for? >> Honestly, you're going to leave Grismail Plaza and head to the schools. >> So, stay right We're going to stay right off is that 10 and 202 that goes through the center of town. >> So, 57. >> Yeah. 57 right at Powder Mill and then, you know, hopefully right into Wall-E
Park. That'll be nice. And we're reaching out to all the old fire departments that did it in the past. So, it's not a fireman's carnival parade, but we're going to try to get as close as we can. Um, we'll see. You know, the Legion's always open. There's a bar
there. There's no need to bring there's no need for me to pull a permit and get a bar close to the food. They can they can walk a couple hundred feet, you know, and that way the Legion gets the money for the bar sales. And they actually always want to know because they rent out their facilities that night, >> a bridal shower or something. It's so,
you know, it comes with fireworks, right? What a great facility. >> Yeah. you know. So, yeah. Well, we're excited and uh hopefully we can partner up and um we'll see how it goes. >> Okay. >> And I'll see you in March if I'm in I should be in town. I'll I'll swing by. >> Okay.
>> Sounds good. >> All right, guys. >> All right. >> Thank you, Joe. >> Yes. Thank you. >> And I brought you something. I'll I'll bring three out. It's not over $50 a piece, so it's legal. >> I hope it's >> a candy bar. Yeah, they're fudgable.
Little shock, but never hurts anyone. Cliff, I hope you heard us. Okay, >> so you can't prove minutes. We'll hold on to the next. >> Have to wait again. >> Well, I had other things to talk about, but I might as well until the next one, like the lights and things at the park.
>> Okay. Okay. Should I wrap up the meeting or >> Yeah, I guess I >> I haven't anything on the ball the light sw yet on the Thursday now. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Jeff. >> Y
we can get to finer dairy. >> That's have a great night. Thanks for your time. Thank you. >> Thank you. Well, >> I guess since it's just the two members tonight, I think we'll end the meeting. Well, if we had to make a motion, but I
move dismissed the second, not official,