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exception session. Okay. >> If anyone is recording, please advise us. >> Over there. >> Fred Gore Birwood Road. Audio and video. >> Okay. And if we have Cliff Clark on,

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he's good to go. Yeah. >> Um, we're going to have a Do you want to wait until we get through the pledge and everything and then we'll start that? Okay. So, let's do roll call attention. >> Nicole Parker, >> Diane Gale, >> Russ Anderson.

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>> Thank you. And we will go to the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all >> people. Is there anyone in the room for public comment today? None. Anybody online with a public comment? Looks like none. All right. Tonight we're going to start

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off with a joint meeting with the finance committee. Mr. Dy, you can call your meeting to order. >> Good evening. Um, finance committee's here. From the bar side, so I need a motion to open our meeting. >> Motion second. >> Second. All those in favor? Joe D. I >> may I

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shar? >> Wonderful. >> And you have no one on the line, right? >> Looks like. Yeah, I think so. >> Okay, then what we need to do here is kind of reconcile where we all are on the

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budget. We have Russ and Doug. We have some capital that was outstanding on our side. Um, and I assume Doug got these updated 427

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documents, right? Doug, >> no. >> Yes, >> he did not. >> Oh, dated today. No. >> Okay. Oh, do you want to start with the changes? >> Um, okay. Uh, so

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>> you have 424. >> Yeah. The only change from then is that we were able to reduce the managed service budget by $40,000. >> So, that is the only difference. I renegotiated.

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>> Imagine that >> on Friday. Was the copier on there? I think is that the only thing that changed, Laura? >> Right. That was the only thing that changed from Friday. >> Yeah. From Friday was that was page four

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at the bottom. Yes, copier was on that on Friday. All right. So, Doug, you're just missing a $40,000 reduction on the shared ser on the managed services. >> Yeah. Computer operations. >> All right.

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So, I guess the I guess we should go through each department and then as capital comes up, if we're missing a vote, you'll let us know if we're missing a vote on that one. Will that work? >> Well, I think the red one will >> you you've already done your capital

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though, right? >> Yeah, we'll match up. >> Yep. >> All right. So, >> and this is what was missing from the when we all met from our end. >> I think that got lost in the papers. >> Okay. >> That we didn't actually >> I don't think anything was added, Ros.

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It was just stuff we missed >> and we didn't actually take a an out loud vote on some of them. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we didn't do any of them. We did add our next Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I guess we can just go. They're all red. If you want to just go through.

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>> So, page one is okay. and make our votes on the capital and then we can go through the groups. >> What's the groups? >> Um, we just have to vote on specific groups. The total general government part >> instead of doing it through Okay.

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>> Yeah. Not each department. >> Okay. >> All right. So, >> got a motion on the copier. >> Yes, please. >> So, make a motion to approve $7,000 for um capital for copier. >> Second. >> Okay. Roll call vote. Dang. I

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>> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mglin. Yes. >> And then on page three, we have the election registration poll pads for 13,025. >> Make a motion to accept for poll pads for 13,025.

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>> Doug Mo will second. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Moin. Yes. >> Okay. under planning board capital street acceptance $20,000. >> Make a motion to accept capital for

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$20,000 street acceptance. >> Discussion. >> Yep. >> Do we have money that's rolling through from this year that wasn't expended that could be rolled into this year or do they need that 20,000 for

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additional road acceptance this year? I don't have anything specific that I can encumber like I didn't we haven't um you know actually executed anything that we can pay for to be able to encumber this year's unless we do it right now

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but we can't roll it without having like a bill or something already committed. I don't know exactly what you mean. Do you mean are we going to need >> L last year's was Revier Road. Did we >> we didn't do >> anything on that? >> No, we didn't.

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>> We needed council >> started and then went backwards, right? Kind of. >> So, that will end up in free cash. >> It will unless we can get it done, right? >> Until unless something comes up.

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>> So, this would that would be a no. Doug. >> Okay, then I'll second the motion. Okay. >> Roll call. Vote. Dang. L I Russ Anderson. Doug Mo off, Doug. And then the next 20 will be there. >> Fresh 20,

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>> right? >> Manage managed service. Oh, that's uh not a capital, but it's in red. Is that just because that's the change? Are you highlighting the change on that? >> That wasn't okay. So we don't need to >> we would just accept it as a

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>> when we to the group >> under computer capital new PCs laptops docking stations for town hall $15,000. >> Make a motion to accept laptop line item

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for $15,000. >> Out of an abundance of caution, I'll just stay out of this one. >> I'll second that. Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mgan abstain. >> Thank you. Handicap accessibility $2,850

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under town hall capital. >> What What is that for actually? Just upgrades or updates or >> or it's a line item that kind of sits there and if say that playscape out there needed something ADA wise that funds are there. If we hit the plow hits

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one of the railings for the handicap >> doesn't seem like enough to do much. That's why. >> No, no, but it's like a maintenance. You're right. Incremental. >> Yeah, I think it just takes care of all the small stuff. Yeah, you're right. It's not enough to do anything major. >> All right, I make a motion for 2850 for handicap accessibility.

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>> I'll second the motion. And real quick, I think u Nicole and I were walking through town hall and we looked at four or five things that could be done with that money in this upcoming fiscal year. um due to some of the office moves and some of the sign changes that need to be made um throughout the town hall.

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That would be a perfect use of that money. >> Yep. Okay. Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russian. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Under police capital cruiser and a truck for $19,500.

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You want to just go through the list and >> do it the bottom? Yeah. do them in total. >> Portable radios for 12,000. Computer equipment for 16,000, defiills for 7,000. Tasers for 9,000.

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Garage floor and sallyport floor 425. Cameras, servers, and door locks, which includes the animal control shelter 100,500 for a total of 296,500 police capital. And those we already

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discussed all of those, >> right? I'll make a motion to accept uh 296,500 for police capital. >> Second Doug Min. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Mgan. Yes. under fire capital the fire engine um it was 1.1 um which is not listed in here but it's 1.1 says to borrow >> but we need to vote and approve that.

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Yes, Laura, >> you're already you're going to do it in the center line. >> Okay. All right. under public safety building elevator oil $5,000. >> You're good on that.

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>> That is what the the orange >> engineer we could tell it at the bottom. >> Yeah, let's compare. >> Yeah, we go in and the fire department,

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>> I believe. Yeah, the oil needed replacing because it's dirty and >> 20 years. >> Pretty empty road. >> It is. >> All right. >> They cut that in half. >> Yeah. >> Under Lake Management Capital Buoys and Morris for $2,600 in orange.

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>> I'll make a motion for an orange $2,600 and Buoys and Mor. >> I'll have to agree that it's orange. I'll second the motion. >> Roll call vote. Dan Gale. I >> Russ. >> Doug Moin. Hi.

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>> All right. Lake Restoration Capital, Beaver Dam and Log Removal in Canal Brook, $5,700. Make a motion to accept uh dam and log removal or $5,700 under Lake Restoration Capital.

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>> Doug Mo second the dam beavers. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. So, I'm guessing DPW is all red. >> That looks

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>> That looks red. That's a lot faster now. >> That looks orange. Under channel 15 capital equipment and equipment upgrades for $6,000. >> Make a motion to accept u $6,000 capital

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request for channel 15. Yes, >> Doug Mogone. A second. >> Roll call. Dang. I >> Russie Anderson. >> Doug Mogone. Yes. >> Okay. Under those are expenses, not

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capital. Do we need to approve those though? Because they're >> now filled in. >> I am on page 14. >> 14. Casualty insurance. >> Police accident fire accident.

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new member >> just new updates. Okay. >> Under capital, here's where we had a difference. The grinder pump maintenance equipment we when we met jointly before we had unofficially approved 60. I think you

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might have approved 40. >> We did approve 40. Um, and the way the budget is written, I'm told it's written for the 60. So I need a motion from the finance committee to approve it for 60,000. >> I'll second it. >> All those in favor I

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>> show DVI sorry. >> Okay. And for us Russ >> uh make a motion to accept 60,000 for grinder pump equipment. I'll >> second. Roll call about Dale. I do have

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Doug Moin. Yes. That looks like the extent of orange. >> Uh, what's okay? That's red. >> That looks right. >> Laura, are you in agreement with that? >> Look good. All right, before we get into approving

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these segments, were there any other questions on the 427 version with all those updates? >> I think we're fine. Where do we end up with the health insurance? I know that one. Are we still negotiating it out?

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Are we done >> as still in negotiations with the unions? who have been down for time or thank you guys questions. So now we're going to go through and do

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it by category like we do every year. We'll have to >> Yeah, >> I'm just checking my notes. Give me one second. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That usually happens when we're in our meetings. for an update. Meth has entered the

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building and is now part of the meeting without >> he has entered the building. >> Yeah. >> All right. And then uh I guess the only other thing was the was it the library? the library needs less

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>> as not to need to fill out the MAR waiver. I think you all know that, right? >> But we we level funded the library from last year. >> So they were they didn't get a 10% reduction, but it wasn't worth it.

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>> It would have thrown them out of all of their grant compliance, etc. >> Okay, Doug, any any questions from you over there? doing fine so far. Thanks. >> Okay, then

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we have our tally sheet here. We need a motion to approve the total general government budget of 3,137976. >> So guys, that's on page five on our

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side. the kind of me and Diane have a cheat sheet, but we need you to go through the pages. >> Oh, you Oh, you don't have that. >> No, no, you put them. >> So, page five has the total government. >> Yeah.

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>> So, you guys should do your thing first and then we'll do ours. >> All right. So >> make a motion to accept 3,137,976. >> That was for >> for general government >> general government.

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Can I have that number again, please? >> 3 million137976. >> Okay. So that's updated since the sheet that was sent out. >> Yep. That's the 40,000 reduction in the uh service IT services. >> I'll second the motion.

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>> Roll call vote. Diane Gail. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mglin. Yes. >> Okay. The finance committee needs to make a motion for a total of general develment budget 3,177,976. I need a motion.

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>> Motion. Seconded. >> Right. All those in favor >> may I >> Joseph DB >> sharing resilience. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Then on page nine or through page

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nine public safety total public safety is at 4,119 616. Make a motion to accept the budget for

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4,119,616,000 for public safety. >> 4,119,616. Right. >> Correct. >> Second. >> Well, I'll vote Dian Gale. I >> Sanderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Okay. The finance committee needs to

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make a motion for total public safety budget of 4,119, $616. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> A second. There we go. All those in favor? >> And uh >> Joseph DDI, David.

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>> Sharing. >> That was a little fine. Thank you. Okay. Total for public works budget on page 11 2 million 343157. >> I make a motion to accept the budget of

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2,343,157 for public works. >> Doug Mgan second. >> Roll call vote. Dian Gale. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Okay. The finance committee pleases to make a motion for total of public works

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budget for 2,343, $157. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> All those in favor I >> Joseph D. I >> Sher I

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thank you. Total culture and recreation budget page >> human services >> I'm sorry human services budget page 12 $48,3001 >> make a motion to accept for human

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services $400,311 >> Doug Mun will second 408301 roll call vote Dangerson yes >> Doug Mogone All right. The finance committee needs to make a motion for total human service

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budget of $48,31. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> All those in favor? >> Karen May I. >> Joseph DD. >> David Mi. >> Sher Nelson. I >> Rosilowitz. I thank you.

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>> Now we're on culture and recreation budget. $751,500. >> Page 13. >> Page 13. >> Make a motion to accept $751,500 for recreation. >> Culture and recreation.

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>> Culture and recreation. >> Doug Mogan will second that motion. >> Well, call Dan Gal. I >> Ross Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mgan. Yes. >> All right. The finance committee needs to make a motion for total culture and

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recreational budget of $751,500. I need a motion. >> Motion >> seconded. >> All those in favor I >> Joseph DDI. David. >> Sherry also I thank you.

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Total debt, interest and insurance budget of 3,74475. That is page 14. >> Make a motion to accept 3,744,475 for total debt, interest, and insurance. >> Doug Mogan will second that motion.

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>> Roll call vote. Dangel I. Rose Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. Okay. The finance committee needs to make a motion for total debt and interest and insurance budget of 3 million744,475. I need that in a motion.

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>> Motion seconded. >> All those in favor. >> Joseph DDI. >> Sharing also time. Thank you. So that is a grand total of general

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government of 14,50525. Do we vote to accept that in the whole? >> Yes. Yes. Motion. >> Make a motion to accept 14,55,2525 for general government. >> Doug Mo. A second. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I

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>> Russ Anderson. Yes. Doug Moin. Yes. All righty. For the finance committee, we'll make a motion. Can I have one question? >> Absolutely. >> So, if the So, we're making a motion to go into the um the town uh meeting, right?

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>> Yeah. These are all for the warrant article, right? Is what we're doing. So if the numbers change between now and then >> they're not >> even you know pending the outcome of the negotiations >> it's not changing. >> Okay.

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>> No but we would hopefully hear those numbers and and be a better understanding of everything and if there's extra in there control of the free cash the following year. >> Okay. >> You know what we hope is there's enough in there. Right. That's really the bigger question, >> right? >> But okay. >> Sounds like they're doing it so we should be okay.

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>> Thank you. Yeah, we good. Okay. So, the finance committee needs to make a motion for total land total general government budget of $14,55,000 and 20 Oh, I'm sorry. 14,55,25. >> Seconded.

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>> Thank you. All those in favor? Karen I >> Joseph DV I >> Sherry Nolton I >> thank you. >> Okay. Total sewer budget page 15 is 1,305702.

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>> Make a motion to accept the total sewer division budget for 1 million 30572. >> Doug Mgan will second the motion. >> Roll call. Vote Dian Gale. Hi, >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mglin. Yes.

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>> All right. The finance committee will need to make a motion for total sewer budget $1,35,72. I need a motion. >> Can I ask Jeff? >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Why isn't it included in the federal government? >> Because it's got its own water and sewer

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and EMS are all separate >> the way they're they're funded >> sources of income. Yeah, >> thanks. >> So, I'll do that again. Um, finance committee needs to make a motion for

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total sewer budget 1,35,72. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> All those in favor? >> May I? >> Joseph DBI. >> David Mi. >> Sherry Alson. Als thank you.

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>> Total water budget is 1,536 650. >> Make a motion to accept total water division budget for 1,ion536650. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Morgan. Yes. >> All right. Finance committee. We need to make a motion for total water budget $1,536,650. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> Thank you. All those in favor? >> May I? >> Joseph DB.

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>> David Murphy. >> Sher I saw I. Thank you. >> Total EMS budget is 1,566702. Make a motion to accept the total EMS budget for 1,566702.

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>> Doug Mogan will second the motion. >> Roll call vote. Diane Gail. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Right. Finance committee. We have one last motion to make here. So it's going to be the grand total EMS budget for

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1,566,72. I need a motion. >> Motion seconded. >> Thank you. >> All those in favor >> I sharing it tonight. >> Silverwood sign. >> Thank you.

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>> Those call enterprise funds. Is that they should be using? So enterprise fund is rest of the houses. Anything else? All right. So, in front of you guys is the we have delicious which is in I guess the end game what we're looking

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at. Looks like we're under the levy by 200,000 at this point. >> And what is that compared to last? So 1527 last year's current tax rate was 1442 and this year's proposed is 1515

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>> and we could have went to 1527. So 42 50 65 72 73 73 cents I think. >> Yep. went back. So you're looking at 73 for everything

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states. >> Any questions? >> How come this proposed using this 25 property values and the legal limit is fiscal 26 property valated? Oh, what's that question? >> You looked at it. The proposed of 1515,

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it's u fiscal year 25 property values is used, but um 1527 the legal limit if we hit it. It says estimated FY26 property values. So why are we using different property values

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or are we using is a typo or >> oh that's just that's just a typo. >> Thank you. >> So we're using >> should be 25 or 26 >> right? So what should it be 26? Well, it's using Sorry, this calculation is using the property

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values of last year because we don't have this year's property values. >> Correct. So, this is current with what we have to to work with. >> And then 26 gets certified at a certain date, the property values, >> sir. Wrong. Yeah, I said it wrong. Okay. So

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this is 26 values that we're going to use for 20 >> 27 estimated because 20 they're working on 27s >> correct now technically. Okay. So it should say 26. >> Should say 26. >> Yeah. Both of them should say 26. Thank

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you Laura. >> Oh you're fine. >> Catch. >> This goes out. >> Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Because someone else will be asking that question shortly. miss anything, Laura? >> So, you're all set, >> sir? Elizabeth, you heard all the

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seconds and motions and everything. You're good. >> You're all set. >> We're good. >> There you go. >> Thank you. >> Need a motion for the finance committee to adj this part of the meeting. >> Make a motion. >> Motion second.

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>> Thank you. All those in favor, Joseph TDI. >> Oh, David. That was a hard question. >> Having too much fun, huh? We'll show you guys. >> Thank you for your time

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>> and all the effort. Seven touch. >> Um Laura, do we have a special time meeting? I'll send that to you Friday. Do you want to hang out a minute and hear that part? That's the special part.

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>> That's got some funding, right? You had copies. >> Send it to you. >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Well, if you send it to me, I'll run downstairs.

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Send it to >> Yes. >> So, we know you approve them with that. >> I will. >> You will. So talk about whether or not we were going to put some of the capital on the special, but we had decided no because we haven't been done by June 30.

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It was just too complicated was not so we just thought we'd leave everything on the >> issue. Do you have them? >> I just forwarded it to the kids. >> We need to wait for technology to come up. >> We'll just need to remember.

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>> Yeah, they got the one for them, >> right? I got nothing yet. Do you want me to read it? Is it Is it easy? >> Um or open it and I'll read it off ears. >> Sure.

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>> Did you get it? >> The special or the annual? >> Special. I Yeah, I did send you the annual, but here's the annual. >> I don't think I got the special. >> You got an email. >> Oh, there it is. Y

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>> this is special. No, that's >> I just sent a special in the email. >> Okay. >> Article one is uh salary reserves. >> Okay. So, we are we just going to read these real quick? I mean, do we read them or

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just article one is salary reserves to make sure we are funding salary reserves for 398.885. >> Yeah. Do we need a vote on this or we're just >> vote on the whole thing? >> The whole thing. Yeah. >> Okay. >> You got this now, Doug. Right. You're

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following along. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. Article two to see if the town will vote to appropriate and transfer from free cash42,000 >> for snow and ice removal. >> Article three. I just propose that it

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gets deleted because we're not going to do any of the transfers at the special. They're all going to be done at the annual. >> Okay. >> And then so the next article is free and article three is to fund

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other postemployment benefits OPB for $25,000. >> Yeah. Article five which will become four is the a is this the standard?

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>> No this is not a standard. This um >> let me read it. >> Okay. When the when community preservation was prepared the revenue the the the estimate was different than the actual >> from last year. >> Yes. >> From last year.

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>> That's why it's on special. >> So this is to correct the allocations. from last year. >> This year still it's for this year. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yep. For the last budget fiscal year 26 >> to correct the minimum allocations by

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$11,187 to the open space historic and community housing. Uh and that's just the explanation of that, right? Yes, it is. Okay. Oh, and that's it on the special. So there will be four

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special town meeting articles. >> We need to vote on those. >> So we need to vote to accept those if >> So I make a motion to approve as written or not really as amended.

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>> Approve as amended. Um special. >> Okay. >> Doug Mogan will second that motion. >> Roll call vote. Thank you. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Moin. Yes. >> Okay. Then the annual town meeting

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warrants. Article one is to approve the ballots at the election on May 19th. Article two is to accept the town reports as is customary. Article three

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to allow the select board to appoint minor officers. Article four to allow the SE select board to sell or trade obsolete equipment. Article five for the select board to apply for and accept any

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grants. Uh and we can talk about if we need to reorder any of these. Um, article six to see if the town will vote to adopt the 75% meals tax.

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Article seven, reappropriation of borrowed funds to see if the HVAC improvements to town hall can be reallocated to the per this will be

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specified to the purchase of a new fire engine or is that going to change? >> No, which I mean this is up to you. This is what we had proposed as Laura and I were discussing that since we're borrowing for the truck and for the

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roads that we could reduce that borrowing by allocating this $200 and we could put a down payment on the truck. >> Okay. And that will be 200 will it will it will we insert the $200,000? Okay. Which which doesn't say that at this moment.

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>> Okay. So we're not applying it to this library roof or other things we talked about. >> Article six follows article seven. So we have two article sixes >> town hall roof.

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>> Oh this is the original. Yep. Is that something else if you want to discuss that? I had inserted the original article for as a reference >> just for ease for reference but we don't have to. It's entirely up to you. It's italicized. >> Yeah. Okay. So, it will be in the

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explanation though. Correct. >> Well, I I don't know. Do you want it in the explanation? Do you want it right here on me? or >> would it >> I guess you have to so you have two different things, right? Because you have to reappropriate the borrowed funds. >> Yes.

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>> And then you have to apply the borrowed. So under the fire apparatus, you would say 1.1 million of which X is from >> this is the thing. So if you if the town approves the 200 going towards that, right? Then it would be an amended motion. Okay.

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>> To reduce it by $200,000. But first they have to approve it. I can't just assume. >> Right. Right. Has to be two separate. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So I don't know. Do you think we need to replay article six from fiscal year 20?

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Right. >> Whatever year that was. >> I think it's kind of telling. I'm sorry to interrupt, but it it's uh >> it's a little bit telling because you can see that in that the old article six that $170,000

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for the town hall roof project was rolled into the town hall roof project cuz that project came in under budget. Um and then they borrowed to do this and that project came in a little bit under the budget. So we're rolling that forward as well.

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>> Yeah. So Laura had originally said that, you know, I should or could put this in what as one article like repurposing plus borrowing and I thought it was it got might be too confusing. >> You mean article seven and eight?

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>> Yeah. >> Well, I think seven and eight it article eight not to get ahead but it says or any other amount. So, you actually if article 7 passes, I don't even know if you need to amend

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the um the article 8. I would use it as a cap for >> Okay, >> you also >> I know we're not there yet, but it's not a ladder truck. So, >> I don't I had to I had the chief was gone all week. I didn't get to ask him. I wanted something in there.

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>> Just engine one. Is that what we're calling it? >> Replacing engine one. >> Yeah. I tried to pin you video now. >> I don't know what happened. >> Okay, I will fix that. Engine one just

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so equipping. >> A replacement of engine one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So just to not be confusing, it says the original vote below. I would just say from 51722.

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>> Well, yeah, because that's what's in the number. It's in the top. >> Yep, I see that. >> I tried to pin him. >> I see that. >> I see his name. >> I see his me. I tried to pin him so we can make him bigger and his video went away. >> Can you still hear me? >> Okay. Yeah,

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>> we can hear you. >> Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what happened here. I may I may drop off and come back. >> Take a snooze. All right. Then article eight is the fire apparatus acquisition as we just

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discussed to see if the town will appropriate 1 million1 or any other amount um for engine one. Article nine, tax incremental financing.

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>> Okay. >> Yep. >> Um, >> sure. >> Just on the apparatus, >> when you're when you say you want to take 200 and apply it, we just want to make sure that at the end of the day, he can still buy a $1.1 million truck, not a $900,000 truck.

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>> Yeah. So, like Doug said, we're just going to leave it there. Leave it like it says. Yeah. We'll leave it like it is. Yeah. We don't want them not having permission to spend 1.1. Yeah. Correct. Okay. Yep. Um, wait, there was alum come back.

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>> What's that? >> Doug dropped off. >> So, the tax incremental financing for >> I think we're waiting for Doug to come. >> Doug Doug is very well aware because so he can jump in, right? We we had this meeting together. Yeah.

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>> Just so just to save a little bit of time. Um, this is for W. Do I have it in there? Yeah, I have the the WGI and I'm not even sure if it's an ink. So, that I'm looking into and the address. And then in the explanation, we'll have

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the details. Okay. >> The years and the amounts. Okay. probably give him a minute to pop back on. >> I think so. >> How long does it take to get from

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Holland? >> I don't know. >> Electronically. >> And And what time is it there? >> 12:15. >> So funny. He's in Holland. My Holland family is here. >> Really? For those watching at home, we're waiting for technology again

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here. There we go. >> Welcome to that. >> All right. Since you were working on the tax incremental financing, we talked about it while we were waiting for you to come back. So, we're on article 10.

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>> Thank you. >> Lower the Pardon me. >> Thank you. Thank >> Okay, I'll set lower required minimum senior property tax exemption from age 70 to 65. Self-explanatory.

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Article 11 is to approve the South Holland Regional School District annual budget of 15,381890. Article 12 is to see if the town will not disapprove

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the $600,000 capital project for the boiler. And that's it on that one. The article 13 is to see if the town

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will not disapprove the south and regional school district capital project for 192,000 for the track refurbishment project art.

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Was that a comment? >> Not sneeze or something. Cough. >> Oh, okay. Article 14 is to see if the town will approve and appropriate or transfer available funds 616 $660,000

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for out of district school tuition assessment. Article 15 is to approve roadway construction borrowing, which will be the $1 million that we

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have in the DPW budget. We just approved. Article 16 to see if the town will vote to approve fix the compensation of elected officers and town employees salaries which is included in the budget.

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Yeah. Um article >> that is the budget. >> That is the budget. >> Yep. The whole thing. >> Mhm. uh amendment addition to revolving accounts. There is no change to the

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accounts or the approved limits on them for this year. It is just a reauthorization of the same. >> Well, we do have Oops, I'm sorry, >> Madam Chair. Yeah, there's I think the the board of health one >> I'm sorry >> change. Yeah. And the veteran banners

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one is one that we're adding this year. >> I was jumping ahead. You are correct. >> Yep. >> So that was the tobacco revolving fund and the veterans veteran banners >> and a consultation a consultant application revolving fund for

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>> there you go for for the board of health. >> Y so sorry. Article 18. Here's what I just said. no other addition to those accounts nor the limits for the existing revolving

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funds. Article 19, community preservation annual budgets. This is the required allocation uh with the 10% to historical housing

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uh and open space and then the general unreserved. Article 20 is to appropriate $63,900 of the original $600,000 bond for the alum treatments and that would be

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20 articles. So is the order satisfactory? I think so. In my opinion, I think the meals tax should move past the budget >> and possibly past the school budget. So,

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I would move I think it was, sorry I'm jumping around, but I think it was article six is the meals tax. I would probably put that at 17 and then just push 17 through 20 down

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one >> and I and just for clarity I don't believe there's any effect on the budget. I don't think any meals tax money was plugged into the budget >> for this year. >> So, correct. >> So, regardless of the outcome of that

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vote, it's not effectual on the budget. I just think for it's going to have discussion. It's going to it could be it is going to be controversial. I think we should push it down past the budget and the school budget. Any

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other questions, thoughts? >> You need a motion to accept. >> Was that Doug? >> That was it for me. >> Okay. >> Make a motion to accept as amended. Um for the

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>> Tommy. >> Daniel Tommy. >> Doug Mglin will second. >> Roll call vote. Dian Gale. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes, >> Doug Mglin. Yes. >> Okay. Uh, so annual town meeting will be

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May 19th beginning at 6:30 p.m. >> I'm opening the annual start at 6:30 and the special >> and the special will be at 6:15. >> 6:15. >> Yeah, 6:15 is have a a consent agenda for six, I guess.

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Um, okay. >> On the agenda, I believe it was those we missed voting on the location. >> I was just going to ask and we are going to be at the regional high school auditorium. >> So, that's really what I'm kind of

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wanting people's opinion. I'm fine going with the auditorium. I think that I don't looking at the warrant, I don't think we're going to get the crowd we did last year. Um, I had a couple complaints with the audio in the gym was great and we really

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couldn't see. Um, but if anybody else has any thoughts that I mean to ask someone to sit in one of those arm chairs too was a little painful. Um, but I'm open to any suggestions or thoughts if anybody has a strong feeling to tell you.

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I think we had a fear we were going to get over 400 people. We should have according to Jim, but I'm about 50 this year. >> What did we have last year? 120 150. >> Um, at the start of the annual

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>> Oh, that's right. We had the that was for the >> We had a lot there. >> We had a lot >> that those kind of numbers. I mean what some towns do and we'd have to have it involved in this because I don't have the technical capacity to set this up

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and I don't know the equipment well enough to is they'll have a room set up where they can stream and they put a an assistant moderator in another room and that's always an option but that's also you'd have to have someone pretty techsavvy

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that could set that up. You'd have to have someone else running that room. That would be for overflow. >> Yeah, that's what some towns do. >> Um, so if you have an extra 50 people and you send them to the cafeteria, you run a video,

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but you would really need someone very much more technology than I I could possibly do. And I'd have to, you know, that's >> those are the options. >> It's a guess. What's your feeling? >> All right. auditorium or >> I think auditorium would be fine.

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>> Doug, what do you think? >> How's the fire department feel about that? >> I agree. I think when you start running into if we ever ran into it where we were overflowing the auditorium, I think we would adjourn the meeting till the following evening and then roll and and

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see if the gym is available or or to a date certain it running the meeting with an overflow crowd. the technology to be able to have uh public input and be able to hear and have the public input back to the main room for those in in the overflow. And then you also have to have

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the town clerk meter the people that are in the room that they're eligible voters. >> Um and be able to tally their votes in that room as well. That's a that's a that's a big challenge. Um the the audio in the auditorium was not great last time. Um there was a lot of complaints

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from that. So I I think we'll be able to fit it in the auditorium and if we have to I think you can you know you you start to look at certain things that you should do. We brought in some more chairs and stuff like that for the the annual last year and then you also have the option of removing those that that

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are not registered voters. You know we provide that I believe as a courtesy um if they're not needed on the town meeting floor um they can not be in the room taking a seat but I I don't think we're going to come that close. my guess. >> All right. So, chief. Yes.

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>> Again, I I agree that I don't think we're going to have the crowd that we had for last our meeting. Um but which seating capacity is still close to 600 people and if we had to move people out that'd be fine. Um postponing is not an

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op it's not a great option, but it's an option. >> It is. So, it's always >> if if you had to. Um, but I I we'd be all right with that. We'll assist like we did last time. You guys were great. Thank you so much. I appreciate everyone's help. Thank you for watch.

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>> For those at home, we're consulting with the moderator, Celeste St. John. >> Thank you. All right. So, um, do we need to vote that time and place then? >> Yes. >> All right. So motion to have the special

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town meeting at 6:15, the annual town meeting starting at 6:30, Southbook Regional High School in the auditorium on May 19th. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. Dian Gale I.

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>> Rose Anderson. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yep. to um if anyone at home is listening to make sure you're if you want to vote and you want to be participate, you really need to get there ahead of time. I always wish we

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said we started at 6 because what time does the town clerk start setting up? >> Um we'll have checkin open for 5:30. So we don't want people I mean if they really want to go on everything on the special and everything on the annual they've given you we don't we try to not

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postpone starting out in the hallway because I mean this year doesn't look like it's going to run to about 21 like it has in the past. So want to do it in timely manner. So >> So the moderator requests everyone to be in their seats by >> 6:15

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>> 6:15 >> or earlier. Okay. All right. I think that's it on that then. >> Can I just ask um you wanted you just

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voted I think to move the meal sex article 17 but I would respectfully ask if we could make it 16th then 17 and 18 are both the um revolving funds. Okay. Is that all

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right? If we make it 16 instead of 17. >> Yeah, I think we just want to get it passed. >> That would be in between the two revolving funds. All right. Thank you. >> That was why this actually coincidentally. All right, that's it on

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budget town meeting warrant articles. Then we're going to move to discuss and vote on the municipal speed feedback signage programs and we have Chief Vanisher. Did you want

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to talk about that a little? >> Uh that was a grant that Lieutenant applied for. We applied for a number of permanently fixed speed signs around town. Uh we did get approval for four pick signs and two trailers. So we would

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ask that you approve that. That is a fully funded grant. No cost of potential registration on the future trail is >> okay. >> Questions questions. Doc,

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I just only had one question in reading some of that um over the weekend. Is there any requirement that we have to supply the data that's gathered from those signs anywhere else outside of town? >> Uh the data does go back as part of the

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grant to the um to the state. >> Thank you. >> That's for a fixed period of time here, >> right? And then after that they didn't require it >> after that. >> And that's regardless of where we plant them. Uh there were specific spots that

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were approved. Uh a couple at FE Hills, one on South Winger, I think one down on more binding for the fixed sides. The trailers, I believe they said Mo Road somewhere else, but obviously those can be moved once the reporting is no longer

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required. Then we could potentially Okay. Make motion to accept the speed feedback signage program as awarded. >> Doug Moin will second. >> Roll call. Vote. Dang. I >> was Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Min. Yes. >> Did do you mean Miss uh election warrant? >> No, we covered that as um >> No, I did. We here. >> You have um annual and special as one line item.

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And then second, >> sorry. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Is this copies of all of this? >> Yeah, they have to. >> All right. So this is to accept the warrant article for town

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elections for select board, board of assessors, board of health, cemetery commissioner, community preservation, Dickinson school trustee, district school committee for two seats, moderator, park and recck commissioner

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for two seats. Planning board Southwick Public Library a three-year term for two seats. Southwick Public Library one-year term and water commissioner. >> Uh make a motion as read >> question. Wasn't that just approved as

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part of the the annual town meeting warrant the first article? >> That's what I thought, but apparently we read out the positions on the warrant as well. >> Second to be signed.

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>> Diane Gail I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Morgan. Yes. >> I thought so too, Doug. >> Yeah, it is listed in it. >> Yes, it was. Yes. That's why I went by it. >> Oh, we got a double duty. >> I thought we did it. >> Y. >> All right. Thank you. So, discuss and

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vote on the parade application for the Southwick Ref Center. Um, they had a rain out at their the last one that we approved. This is now going to be on 53 Saturday 53 12 to 1:00 p.m. Again, closing um from Powder Mill Road to

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Legion Road and closing the road at Powder Mill and Feeding Hills to Fernwood. >> Make a motion as read. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Anderson. Yes.

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>> And with a prayer for good weather, Doug Mglin. Yes. >> Yeah. And then the next is related to discuss and vote on amendment to the parade application. When this came up, Margaret had the foresight to insert uh a space

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for a rain date on the approval and for the police and fire to review it and sign off on the actual application. And that's what that is. So, we need to vote on it again or we vote on >> We're going to vote to amend the parade

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application form for those inclusions. >> Okay. So, move >> second. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes.

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>> All right. And then next item is to discuss and vote on the legal services agreement we talked about and chose the firm. This is the agreement with the firm meet Talerman and Costa LLC and that is in accordance to the proposal that we did review with those

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rates spelled out etc. >> Make a motion to agree >> and have the chair sign >> and have the chair sign. >> And have the chair sign. >> Second. >> Roll call vote. Dian Gale. I >> Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Mglin. Yes. We need to discuss and vote on the intermunicipal agreement with the town of Agawam regarding the animal control shelter. Um we had an agreement. It expired and we didn't actually have

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>> he didn't have um Yeah. No, the uh animal control officer wanted a few things changed in there. So um it went to our council and it's back with their council. So it's not final. >> Okay. So pending. So we'll carry this. Yes.

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>> Just a question. Is the 15,000 is there is that the same that it was? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. So, we're going to carry that. Yep. >> And this is also to sign.

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>> All right. And we need to acknowledge and approve a $475 donation to be deposited into the library gift account, $50 miscellaneous cash, and $425 from the Friends of the Southwick Public Library. So move >> Doug Mogan will second.

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>> Roll call vote. Daniel Dangel I. >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> And acknowledge and approve $58 donation to the animal control gift and medical gift funds. El Bonichi of Enfield $10.

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Dryer of Feeding Hills for $100. El Grener West Springfield for 25. Hayen from Southwick 40. P. H from Southampton $20, IBS $213 and R. Paul Barari $100.

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>> So move does >> Doug Mo second with our thanks. >> Roll call vote. Dang. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes. >> Doug Mglin. Yes. >> Okay. Um nothing has come up under anything new.

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Under old business. We do not have anybody here to talk about complete streets. Okay. Going to carry that one again. >> Open space land management committee charge. That should say charge and I

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sent you that document this afternoon. Sorry for that delay. Um I did review this with the chairs of conservation and the open space land management for their input and consensus. Everybody's in agreement with

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this. Um again that very lengthy one I got which was not satisfactory. Nothing came back so I pulled this together myself but they have approved it. >> You need a motion on this?

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>> I do. If there's no other questions or discussion on it, I'm gonna say you're fine. >> Make a motion to accept as presented. >> Doug Mgan will second. >> Roll call vote. Dian Gale. I >> Russ Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Mogan. Yes. >> Okay. And then discuss the channel 15 job description that we had circulated. So, I believe we circulated and approved it and then never acted on it. >> Um, so yeah, I think we're looking for a

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motion to post this and um with those requirements, qualifications, and >> and and again, this ties into the Comcast contract and our obligations to um what we're supposed to be doing with PEG money as far as PEG South PEG

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programming and whatnot. That was the idea when we started trying to move move things along. >> Okay. >> I don't know if that needs a vote or not, but >> so for C >> can I just bring up on as discussion,

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what about the person that's been in that role for some time? Are we just going to post the job or and and have or are we going to adopt a job description for the person that's in that role or what?

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>> I I think we'd have to rely on um council to how we HR how we handle that. Um I don't >> Well, we we've updated the requirements of qualifications. >> Correct. >> Right. So

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I he would apply for it. >> I I assume or accept. I don't know. I don't that's what I don't know. There's two different ways you can go with it. >> I don't think there's a problem with I mean we can ask Kim. Kim's coming later, but I don't think there's a problem with

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posting the job. If the job description has been updated, you can post it. The incumbent can apply, right? Okay, that's what I would take. >> And again, we voted on the description.

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So, do >> correct. >> We don't I don't think we need a motion to post it, do we? >> I guess just approval to go ahead and post. >> I think you should check with labor attorney, labor council before you do that

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>> and we can we can confirm that tonight. Okay. All right. Uh, next item is discuss and approve the banner flag application if needed. I had sent you I have a donor for

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um these banners. I worked with Steve Connell on location for them and I think I detailed that in the email I sent you with the image. um where they were going. Did I Did I do that? >> I remember seeing

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>> the town hall the town hall canopy at the bulletin board outside the senior center canopy on the south side. One staked on the front lawn, one at the library, one at Wally Park entrance, two on the island at uh the police station

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and fire station, one on the fence at DPW, and possibly one on the hillside on College Highway near the steps to the old li uh cemetery pending cemetery commission approval. Um that could be a

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total of nine. Um, and I guess the question would be do does the town select board approve those banners and

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would a banner application be necessary if the town is approving such banners under the flag policy? it. Sorry. Um I don't believe this is under the flag policy because that's a whole different thing

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unless you're going to put it on the flag pole at town hall. >> The flag policy was written very narrowly to comply with the Supreme Court ruling. So you have to be very careful with what you approve under that um and set a precedent.

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So, you know, we put up banners in different places around town in the past for town uh of the town's own valition, you know, whether they're recognizing meetings or there other events like that. So, I I don't know that we need to take a vote

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specific on this. >> Okay. I I just wanted to get your approval and make sure we didn't need to submit a banner application. Uh and your approval on the placing those banners

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>> that would be under building typical permit would be under him. >> What do you mean >> signage? Would it if if there was a permit, would it be under the building? >> It's not permanent. >> I know, but I think there's a there's temporary

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>> temporary, but I'm not sure how long these are up. Temporary, I think, are 30 days. because I think every 30 days it goes to purge the um you know the portable signs. >> Yeah. >> Cardboard ones. >> I had anticipated these being up as soon

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as I get them in through the end of the year or you know through through freezing pull the stakes out of the ground if they're staked in etc for for the remainder of the year through through at least uh Veterans Day.

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So, any objection? I guess >> I don't have an objection. Yeah, I >> I would check with the build the zoning enforcement officer for chapter 185. Good point, uh, Mr. Anderson. Um, because they certainly are that. So, they would fall under the signed bylaw and whether the town exempted itself

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under chapter 185 signs. I think that's 33. I don't remember exactly, but >> it's 29. Can I read it? >> Close. >> Sure. So, a pennant or a flag, a sign made of flexible material hung on a pole or on the face of a building, decorated with graphics, designs, artwork,

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symbols, and or lettering. Pendants that contain advertising messages, logos, symbols are not considered signs under this bylaw. Bunting and patriotic flags such as United States, Massachusetts town flags are not considered signs and are exempt from this bylaw, >> but they're not flags either. They're

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banners, >> but they're Bunting ones on the canopies are fine. It's the ones at the other places. I'd ask I just ask it. >> They're buntings or penants. >> Yeah. >> So that would say they are would be exempt. >> Exempt.

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>> I would just check with them, but I mean I don't think we have to vote if we >> Again, I'm just asking making sure you're aware of when they're going to go up and All right. Okay. Um,

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other old business. I guess I submitted something for next meeting on that. I thought I had something today. Okay. Minutes. Acknowledge and approve open session meeting minutes from April 6, 2026 and April 13, 2026.

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Um, Doug, we have April 6th here with your edits highlighted. And we have April 13th with no one had edits. >> And Doug, I have executive session minutes. So if you want me to wait until

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next week. I thought you weren't going to be here. >> That's all right. I we can approve the open session minutes. No problem. >> Okay. >> Make a motion to accept as amended. >> Doug Mo. Second. >> Roll. Dang. I

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>> Anderson. Yes. Doug Moin. Yes. >> So, we'll say the exact >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then we need to acknowledge payables warrant number 2624B dated April 13, 2026 in the amount of

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310,998.22 22 and payroll warrant number 2625 dated April 21st, 2026 in the amount of 32,496.31. And that concludes regular business. >> I have two things real quick if you

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don't mind under old business because it kind of went by real fast. Um, one is I wanted to congratulate the cultural council on their 25th art show that was held this weekend. It was very well attended and very wellrun. um kudos to all that they do to put that

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on. Um and may that continue for many more years. And secondly, I wanted to also thank the um the friends of the rail trail had their annual spring rail trail cleanup. Um I think this may be their last year. I

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believe that group is talking about disbanding. They're having trouble recruiting folks to be on that uh that group. But um we had a bunch of young people and some town residents come out to um and some town employees come out

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to spread some mulch and pull some weeds and make the rail trail looking as sharp as it gets every year. So just wanted to thank those folks. Thank you. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjourn.

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>> Going into executive go into executive session. >> Go into executive session. A motion to executive session pursuant to Mass General Law 30A section 21 number three to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental

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effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares not to reconvene in open session. >> Want to second that. Second >> roll call vote D. >> Russ Anderson. Yes.

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>> Doug Moin. Yes.