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June 22nd. June hybrid. We're going to take a couple minutes to go through our notes from the last meeting. Give us a couple minutes, we'll be back. >> I think I I don't think we should try to talk about everything. There was a correction in type-o in

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here, so I would say that uh if you can mark up the copy with your suggestions and then we'll pass them off to Wendy and she can sit through and rather than saying paragraph three, sentence two, and stuff like that. So, I

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I did have I did have some found errors. Give me mine. Motion to Any? Unless there are some pen specific comments that you that needs to be uh

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addressed. Well, the things that jumped out at me are just some changes in phrasing and a couple of type-os, but Motion to accept the minutes. >> We did have a >> With >> With correction. With correction.

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>> With correction. >> Good. >> I. Three certificates made um for Both can speak. You hear the phone line? >> But it should be Is the audio difficult to hear now? You don't need

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Oh. Wait. >> From non-essential personnel Uh our attendance tonight is uh Paul Gregoire, Mike Parent, Dan Tobias, Vice Chairman Bill List, and Chairman Chris Neshriani, and Secretary Linda

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Figuero. Uh Chief future paperwork and uh and uh what's with that? Uh The public hearing is scheduled to set for 7:05. You can see we're having some technical problems, but uh um

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We'll get straight to the audio problem. Just got to learn to go. Zoom in and out for the audio numbers. the application, and then we'll take comments from from the public. We'll take comments in favor of the application first, and then uh

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and then opposing the application second. Uh we'll include any remote people that that want to make comments. And then uh after everyone has spoken, we will uh

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we'll close the public hearing and uh discuss it discuss the issues on the on the board, ask some questions, and then we will uh if it comes to that, we'll make a motion and and and vote on the on the proposal.

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>> Okay. You get the personal I think you have to pass out the board of appeals and zoning. Okay. We did the zoning by law then. Uh okay. Posting of the zoning appeals June 8th, 2026 and June 15th, 2026. Notice is

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hereby given the public hearing to be held Monday, June 22nd at 7:05 hear petitions for property located at 351 North Loomis Southwick, Mass. The Butters at 351 North Loomis Street are appealing decision by the Southwick

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zoning enforcement officer, who declined enforcement action regarding the continued commercial use of subject property. Hybrid meeting will be in in person. We're trying to get the hybrid part going here. Um conference room three at the town hall,

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Southwick, Mass. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh let me just give a little introduction to this because it's quite different than the kind of issues we normally deal with. We're We're normally uh being asked to

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uh dimensions setbacks and things for the garages and sheds and things like that. I had to do some research. Uh The Massachusetts general law specifies that decisions by the Zoning Enforcement Officer, which in Southwick is the

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Building Inspector, can be appealed to the Board of Appeals. Yes, this application meets that criteria criteria and that's why this public hearing is taking place. I've had discussions with several town officials ranging from the Building

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Inspector, Town Planners, uh so on and so forth and they all agree that that the the decision was properly before the the Board of Appeals though that that that is their contention question now.

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>> There's a long complicated history going back to >> That history is important in terms of the Town's decision Building Inspector to find make a change to the status quo of the property That's the

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the narrow issue that we're here to talk about. Based on Southwick Bylaw, there are two criteria criteria must question the decision of the Building Inspector. One, was the business was the business abandoned or discontinued for three

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years? Or two, is the new use of the property different than the previous use? Either of these situations are valid reasons for us to review the applications. Uh we'll hear from the the applicant and

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then we anyone present that wants to make to make a statement can do so. Uh just keep in mind that the scope of this hearing and focus your comments on the decision of the building inspector in April 2026.

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Observations regarding current property usage and to concentrate The applicant Here is a summary of all >> So here >> How are you doing? >> Okay. >> My name is Bradford Porter, I'm an

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attorney at 45 Laurel Street, Westerly. And I represent the petitioners. >> Okay. >> Which is Stephanie and Bill Price, Willie Zimmerman, Beth and Seth McCloskey and uh Sharon Antico. >> Okay, so

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>> They're the owners that live near this. To go back a little bit, um this We made a demand. There was no building inspector So we made it I I got a hold of the city to take it and it was your town administrator. >> Okay.

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>> She didn't act for like 6 months. Um I had to call her and email her and she said, "I didn't mind it." So I had to send it to her again. We then got a decision from the building inspector who denied it. What's what's This case is really about

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and our computer's pretty detailed. Your bylaw and state laws allow non-conforming uses are protected and for a reason. It means when your bylaw went into effect, Kellogg had this concrete operation.

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And he made septic tanks. He had a limited hours of operation. His His website at the time said it was open weekdays and Saturday morning, no nights. And he dealt totally with concrete. He did transport some of them and he made

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just septic tanks. That's protected right to resell it. If he had it before you change your bylaws, you can't say no, you can't do it. But, it also means that there's some safeguards for the neighbors in the town. And one of them is that as long as you keep doing it, or sell it

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to someone who else is doing it, you're okay. Okay. If you abandon it, or in your case, septic use is a word discontinued, which still which means stop doing it. In that case, for 3 years, you may just lose it. Abandoning it means that you have to take steps to show you didn't want to

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do. Discontinuing it means you just don't do it for 3 years. So, when we made our demand, and we appealed it here, this had not been used by Kellogg since December 2020. We We gave you a copy. Concrete, it's

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imperative to make concrete yet that water. We gave you the records from the water department in Westford showing that as of November 2020, it was shut off. These records are dated 4/27/26. Never been put on again.

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That means Barry has never put the water back on it. So, so you can't make concrete without water. That clearly shows it was discontinued, and it probably shows an intent to abandon it. Abandoning it means as soon as you decide you abandoned it, you lose it.

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Not using it means you got to go past the number of years. Um And so, this case, and even now, Barry's not making concrete. So, so no question that use hasn't been continued. I don't even think we have to get to the point question what's he

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doing there now, because it's not protected. The only thing that was protected was the concrete. Now, if Barry was concerned and wanted to protect himself, all he had to do was either appeal the building inspector's decision years ago

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or even this one. Um Or years ago he couldn't. And take it to the zoning board or actually it's a planning board or zoning board and if they agreed with Barry after notice to all the abutters and nobody appealed it, he would have been protected. He's not protected on a naked

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building inspector opinion 6 years ago before he bought it. Because there's no there's no finality to it. Your decisions when you make them that aren't appealed are done. That's it. End of ballgame. So so right away there's a mistake he could have protected. Plus the law says

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the person seeking the special use or permission has the burden. Not the neighbors. So clearly there's no We gave So here you see the notice to Westfield to shut the water off. This is dated 4 27 26. No review since that date

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since November December 2020. Um and then what What's really frustrating is And I understand And the building inspector maybe he's overworked, didn't look into it, didn't get any help. One question. Um the statute says the building inspector is supposed to turn over his

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file to you. Is there anything other than his letter turned over? >> Uh no. >> Okay. So his letter says its use is a construction yard. >> Well, which letter are you >> This this When we made a demand Yeah, this one right here. >> In April, okay.

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>> Cuz the one that was requested by Barry years ago was never something that was given to neighbors. Nobody knew about it. >> Okay. So So in February 24th the former building inspector decided that the nonconforming use could continue.

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>> Right. But that was not ever It was not made a demand. There was no He no abutters ever got notice. So nobody had any right to appeal it. So that You can't You have to disregard that because it's just like it was not anything that anybody had public knowledge of. Okay?

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So And so that [clears throat] has to be disregarded because in fact the building inspector probably shouldn't have been doing that, but that's the one where we really want a protection. All he had to do was appeal it to you guys. Then they would sort of got notice. So you can't you can't say oh the

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building inspector said they could do it and nobody knows they don't have the right to appeal. >> Appeal appeal decision that was in his favor. >> To to make it ironclad. I've done it. I've done it in Westfield. I had a decision and I I know it's it's tricky

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and I say look, let's get in front of the board. >> Yeah. >> Everybody gets notice and the board says yes. Fine, then we don't have to appeal it appeal it nobody appeals it then it's final. So the building building inspector's decision when there's no notice is not any finality to it.

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So so in this case So what I did is I looked up construction yard. And So So this is what the definition if I can show this to you guys. If you guys want to take a look. When you look at non-conformity uses,

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you can't generically say it's commercial or it's construction. Because you have to look at specifically what the use was when the zoning changed. So in this case, that that's nowhere near what what the they were doing fellows.

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So so in this case all it was was concrete and we went and we looked to see what's at the property now. So, if if Barry is trying to say he's

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continuing the concrete service. He has what was there at Kellogg's old was two flatbed trucks, one concrete truck, one smaller Clark brand wheel loader, one forklift. All 40 years old and more. Not been used. What's on there now is there's a

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vibrator screen for processing build, two excavators, a rock crusher, two larger wheel loaders, two or more large large snowplow blades, two snow mobiles, two boats on trailers. Tell me how that's related to concrete, man.

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There's two work truck bodies, two pickup trucks, one work truck with no rear body, one flatbed truck, one roller for paving, two box trucks, a snowmobile. Okay. So, the point is this is an extension and this But, if if I don't want to get too zoomed in.

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If we don't stop this guy, there's going to be no control over what he puts there cuz there's no control now, okay? So, so when you look at this and you look at the law, the first question is is it a is it a continuation? Question it isn't. Is it not been used for 3 years or more?

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Question it hasn't. If Barry wanted to continue it, he could have still made concrete and did stuff. He didn't. So, clearly we're beyond that. Plus, I think we have abandonment. Not only in the documents we gave you did Kellogg's stop using law, he stopped his worker's comp.

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He had no employees. Nobody was there. So, and and the cases go through it all about extensions and alterations, but this isn't that. This is just not continuing what was protected and trying to take advantage of a generic construction yard and just fill it

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through all that. And we don't even know what he's going to do next. So, you know, I think that's the simple explanation. Sorry, guys. We just want to uh >> Then I can't absorb that, but what I want to do is open up >> Yeah, I want to Yeah. >> Get their opinions and all that. >> Let me just add a certain

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>> things to your your timeline that I had it. >> Sure. >> We have a timeline, too. Uh >> Ours is not >> The application to dissolve Kellogg Brothers company was not filed with the state until August 24th and was not

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approved by the state until October 24th. >> So, that's that's just something that I have an answer for You had to stay open because you hadn't closed to sell the real estate. The real estate had to the corporation had to still be alive

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because it held the real estate, okay? And so, it has nothing to do with operating it, you know? I I Okay, sorry. I'm not >> We're using the same facts. >> Okay. >> We're using the same facts. >> So, So, try it again. Yeah, he's operating. >> I'm just saying that it's it's another fact that >> No, anyway.

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>> Put in the timeline that that that establishes something in there. >> It had to be kept open, as I said. >> And then the and then the other thing that I I just investigated today was even though it's our fully residential, the building and the land have been assessed as commercial property going

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back to 1970. So, it's just that it didn't change from commercial property to residential when And well, that's just a fact of the assessment. It may not have any bearing

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>> Just to explain that, too, is commercial is a generic phrase the town uses for taxation. Westfield has industrial commercial and residential. Three or two classifications. So, so in that rule, just because it was used like

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that until somebody actually changes it. So, the board wouldn't change it on their own. >> But I if it's just something I got directly from the vision department. It was a residential property commercial assessment. So that's it's just something I I checked into.

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Go ahead. You can go on the list. >> Sorry, I get nervous. >> And that's what I'm sorry. >> It's all good to do with >> Not adversary. >> Yeah, I don't want to be adversary. >> It's not It's not a trial. >> So so so good term was just used for the general public comments. Is that

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adversary? I want to talk about and give you opportunity to explain and put your position whether you're for or against. Um and and then again focused on the property here in question. And probably about 5 minutes here at

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least, okay? We'll give you that fair time. So I'd like to open up and give your name address. >> If we could >> We start with the I'd like to start with the pros. If there's anybody here for this petition. I think so. So again, we'll start with the comments

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from Just name and address. And you come forward to the table if you'd like. You can come to the You can sit. You can sit. Wherever you feel comfortable. Yes. You can >> It's got the wires. Is it going to zap me? >> Name name and address, please.

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>> Uh my name is Sharon Antico. I live at 363 North Loomis Street. >> Thank you. >> I was born and raised in Southwick. In fact, I grew up in the same house that I live in now. After college, I decided to move back to the area. I made a conscious decision that

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Southwick was the best place for me and to raise my family. North Loomis Street is not only a residential area, it is one of farming and nature. It offers peace and tranquility that has always been a staple to Southwick living.

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Growing up in this location means that I am well familiar with Kellogg Brothers Concrete. I was never It was never a hindrance on our day-to-day lives. The business operated a very simple septic tank business. I would see a truck roll out in the

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morning to deliver a tank. They would come back sometime later in the day. They operated 7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. On occasion, they would work until noon on Saturday. My family lived amongst a community that

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supported supported one another and had mutual respect. Kellogg Brothers had a special zoning permit to make septic tanks and concrete mix. We are now forced to live with increased activity levels that are a detriment to our residential living.

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Barry operates within all hours of the day and night. There is dust and debris from air and in the air from rock orders and crushers. There is a constant use of Jake brakes with their trucks. There is a blatant disrespect for the

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residents on our street, including noise and air pollution. In addition to the increased levels of operating this business, my children and I should not be seeing Barry senior urinating by the side of his truck while we're walking down Miller and Anthony's

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driveway. Do you have any questions for me? >> No, I think that Thank you very much. Thanks for it. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Hi. Uh my name is Beth Lawley. Uh I live at 352 North English Street. Um when my husband and I purchased the

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home 10 years ago, we specifically walked across the street to ask what type of daily business operations were like. We wanted to understand what exactly we'd be living next to if we bought the home. At the time, the operation was minimal.

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We would hear a truck or two leave in the morning and return early in the afternoon. The business was winding down um and by about 20 the end of 2020, from what I personally observed, there was essentially no business activity. There

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was no cement being produced and the property was quiet. It remained quiet until 2025. In 2025, the activity changed significantly. The operation was much different from what what it was when we bought our house. There was substantially more

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activity, increased noise, diesel odors, and operations extending into the evenings and weekends. On some occasions, diesel trucks were running outside until 11:00 p.m. at night. This was not consistent with the business that was across the street when

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we moved next door. When I contacted the town to understand what the zoning was, I was told it was grandfathered. I asked how it could be considered grandfathered and grandfathered with little or no business in this operation in the past couple of years. I was told that they

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the owner had continued to pay the business license so they could sell it as a business in the future. To me, there's an important legal distinction between paying to maintain a business license and it is it's not the same as continuously operating a non-conforming

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use. A license simply provides permission to operate a business. It does not by itself demonstrate that a business has continually operated that way. Since the spring of 2026, the property has once again been relatively quiet and we appreciate that. But, we're here

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tonight to um ask the town to enforce the zoning so that it stays this way and that our neighborhood is protected from the noise level that we experienced in 2025. Um it is uh like what Sharon said, it's it's

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beautiful out there. Um you know, there's there's nature. It's We're very very blessed to live out there. Um you know, when we get to enjoy that and then you know, there's times where it's just the smell of diesel and when that the rock orders, you know, you can

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just see all the all the dust in the air. Um >> Okay, thank you. You guys live at 358 in the street and I I'm at 355 That's the very next

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Half a block all of them are set already. It's been been a since I bought the properties since Barry bought this change has been exponential in everything. The rock orders are I don't know what they they said, but

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My 355 is about where the rock order is the back master bedroom of that house. And so when he runs that rock order, the entire house shakes violently. Um >> When does that happen?

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>> We we have the dates written down. >> All right, thank you. Is that at night? >> This one And then I think we have the rock crusher Yeah, I mean I have a video of this being monstrous at about 11:00 in the morning.

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The big trucks the headlights shining in my bedroom window. It's up up there. And then I'm trying to make the property better as it was, you know. It was for that 355 property, but it was also not in great shape, but now it is

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in great shape and I'm trying to make it better. So that I do all that hard work. >> Okay. >> I didn't spell price at 353 North Elm Street. Um I don't want to rehash too much of this also. Fred

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covered a lot of this, but we took the trouble to make up a timeline. I wish I would have printed out more copies so we could spread it around, but we can go back to the water being turned off in December of 2020. And then there was no activity down there.

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The letter from the building inspector, Kyle Scott, came out in February of 2024. Now, we requested from the town what kind of procedures or any steps he might have taken, anything he would have written down, and the town could not

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produce anything that one page supporting that letter. And once that letter came out, again, none of us got a chance to come in and make our case to say these operations have ceased and what has happened. And so, you know, we never got a voice in any of this to say, "No, this this this

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is not how things should be." So, to our mind, number one, the operation was abandoned or discontinued or whatever the correct term is. And in terms of change of use, the amount of equipment and the activity on that lot is dramatically different.

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Um this is a rock sorter that's been out there, piles of material sorted. Start passing around. This is a photo of that rock sorter in action, the dust cloud, the excavator

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feeding it. Usually there'd be a payloader possibly running on the other side to then load a triaxle. When that material was sorted, it would make a pile like this. And if you look at the size and the scope of that pile, you can tell that it takes a substantial piece of equipment to make that pile

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that high. And then that material was then removed from the lot by truck, triaxle, payloader, etc. to a new site. So, I believe that activity requires a special permit as well to be trucking in material from one site, sorting it, processing it, and then trucking it back

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out to get another site. So, to our mind, to anything that we've been able to gather, that permit does not exist. So, this is very much a large change in use on the property. Um

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we spoke with a Kellogg family member who worked at the Kellogg Brothers Concrete Plant for 18 years, and he said that the business made precast septic tanks, delivered those tanks, they mixed concrete, they delivered concrete. They could not but but they but they could not operate any

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other type of business. They were required to stay inside the footprint of the existing building. The garages couldn't be converted into additional operational space, and they never had a permit to store material. Um I understand some of you have visited the property recently to kind of get a

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view of it. I do, Seth Cirrachi. Okay. You got it. Can you spell it out? C I R A C E is the last name. Um so, I understand some of you took some time to go out and see the property.

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Right now, since February or so of this year, the activity has been very limited. However, last year, that was very much not the case, and we don't know when that activity will pick up again and resume. So, you know, it it's purely at the whim of the Berrys. And when they

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have operated, as they have mentioned, they have operated nights, weekends, 6:00 7:00 at night, whenever they feel like it, however they feel like it, with no regard to the neighbors in any way, shape, or form. Um

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I guess I'll stop it there and not take up too much more of your time. >> You sure? That's what we're here for. That's what we like to see. >> Okay. Um anybody else? Okay. That's it. >> Nelly piece of information I think is

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really helpful is at the time Kyle Scott wrote the letter in his assessment of the situation. The dormancy laws at that time were one. So they're currently 3 years, but at the time that letter was written, um, discontinuation was only 1 year

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in order for you to lose your >> Yeah, and they May of '24 they went to 3 years, which was well after the letter and years prior to what we think operations ceased there. >> Thank you all. I'm going to go up order to appreciate that.

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Um I just wanted to say my lines. It's so I can understand the passion. I understand concerns. Yeah. You want to put your I am ready. >> You're still >> I'm ready.

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You can comment to me. I need an address. previous All right. >> Close the public comment section of this meeting. We're going to move on to the next private petition. I have some more questions or any more comments from Matt.

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This is our I think we have some comments from Hopefully we can help you directly. >> Yeah, it's I think This board clearly has the authority to make legal determinations cuz you do it all the time with variances. You know, you decide whether there's hardships and

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you know all the statute. So, you clearly have a lot of authorities for, you know, to make these decisions and rightfully so. You know, you're like the last stop here. And I think you got the gist of it, you know. I think this is more simple, you know. This is just very extreme.

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If very I represented Barry. First thing they're going to tell you is This is going to play in board and ask to alter extend. Very simple, you know. You could have put it in the contract.

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Go before the planning board because it probably didn't qualify because it's so far different, you know what I mean? You know, so I don't want to keep going, but yes, if you have questions I can >> wrap up in a minute. >> Yeah. Any more comments that I want to

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talk about. Is that the word of last stop. I looked through all this. I said, "What kind of kind of a gateway that that has to be gone through either a legal remedy from someone or the attorney.

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Or the property owner complaining. So, I am I am not sure. We don't We can't We're not going to make a decision to somebody We're going to make a decision to find a path that has to that has to be

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>> See, respectfully, I I think that's not the best to do because you know, the your citizens here come to you who have the authority. I've been in front of many zoning boards of appeals. I've gotten tree houses moved from boards upheld when they shouldn't

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have been built. So, by you not granting them the relief, you now put the burden on them to spend the money in the court. And really, the law says the burden's on Barry. It's the person seeking this

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special the special consideration. So, if he wants it that bad, you you start a petition. He has 3 days to appeal it. Otherwise, what you're doing is you're forcing the homeowners who probably are correct on this to pay and go to court. And you're

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actually benefiting Barry. He He could have protected himself tons of different ways. I That's the way I don't And again, respectfully, you know, okay. Well, I when I said there's two different ways to go, I didn't I didn't give one any more weight than the other. I think you're kind of assuming

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that I'm leaning against you. But I think I think we're leaning in your direction. So, I I wouldn't make any assumptions. I think you're going to be things are going to be worse than you expect. But I don't feel so strongly

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about that because I'm going to take it trying to use this property as special as it is. It burns you up. Well, it does say And so, and then by granting our petition, he then has

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all his rights. He can go both ways. If he can appeal and he can't go to the planning board. You can you can plead alternative stuff, you know. I agree with you 100%. >> Okay, sorry. I'm just saying >> I just wanted to say that with the other >> Okay. >> It's kind of people who question

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>> All new questions. I felt I felt like Wait, that a lot of the bar establishments around the lake had to deal with this sentence. And thought it, you know, put some pretty firm guidelines, but that again is by the planning board.

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So, you're right, Paul. >> So, you think that >> But that if there's a change in that, that could be Especially this this board has just been That was Landowner wants to go with the roots. He could have done it 5 years ago. He can do it tomorrow.

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That's him, you know. This board has has already issued saying what can be done. Discontinued and it does it's not there anymore. It was a number of years in the past. There's no issue. There has to be. So, it's not a question similar in any

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way cuz it isn't current. Sure point. Paul, >> This one is And here construction yards Construction yards have sort of some other special um

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ways that they can be done that boards can't stop them. Do you know what those are? >> No, except I only I only gave you that definition because the building inspector said it was used as construction yard equating Kellogg's use as a construction yard.

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>> And so I would have shown that that that is too generic. You know, you when you're dealing with non-conforming uses, you got to be specific because it was the specific use that is entitled to the super protection when you're buying a lot not the generic use. >> Well, I don't know if Kellogg is

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protected if if you could define that the new use is less non-conforming than the old use. Thank you. >> But it's really tricky. I don't know if you can hear it. >> That's a very good point. >> That's a good definition >> We will get into it into those weeks. challenging

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the common theme of process Um doesn't mean So I think we're on a similar thought process. This is how how we want to get things. >> Well, I understand. Well, we tried to make it simple enough to say that

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when the case is decided that abandonment and discontinuing have two different meanings and all that discontinuing means is non-use. You don't need any intent or anything. And when now you have 6 years non-use, you don't have buried time.

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You're well beyond it. Makes it I think it makes it very makes a lot easier decision. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, so 2024 it was the change of hands, correct? >> Yes. >> May I believe that change of business? >> Yeah. this special permit was

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original Kellogg was solely protected. >> There was no special permit. There was no special permit. >> It was It was non It was protected non-conforming use. >> It was pre-dated

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the zoning bylaw. >> Okay. >> It was from 1972. So, since they were already >> And it's continuous. >> operating their business, the new bylaws could not put them out. >> Happens a lot because towns are always either making them more strict or something and you can't take away

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people's rights to do something. So, the goal is balance the right of the Kelloggs to keep doing what they're doing as long as they don't change it. And if they want to sell to somebody else and they do the same thing, they're protected cuz you got to protect Kellogg's property rights. But as soon

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as you stop for the requisite number of years, it's gone and you can't get it back. >> Well, you can't if you got a plan. >> Or if you got >> It's within the within the period of within the 20 years. >> Got it. For sure. >> It has been >> It's been more than five years.

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>> It did not to today. >> It lapsed. >> Oh, for sure. >> I think that's the easiest step. >> I I don't have any direct questions. >> Okay, great. >> Yeah, I got a pretty good feel on this. >> Okay. That's actually attached to that too. >> All questions are done.

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All right, I think I think I'm I think I'm comfortable with the opinion the opinion that I have. >> I agree. >> Everybody is agreeable. I'm going to make a motion. >> Secondable. >> Secondable. >> Oh, that's all right.

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>> Oh, that's true. >> What? >> You got your time. >> [laughter] >> Good. >> Will be back in >> Who do you expect? Here. >> Streamline this. This has to be a 3-0. 3-0

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>> All three, okay. >> Oh, we're just picking one. >> Oh, this is okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Make a motion to approve the application appealing the decision of the South Fork building inspector who declined to enforce an action

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at 351 North The board feels that the building inspector should have referred the present property owner to seek a special permit Use of the property has changed the number figure. South Fork bylaw

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It requires special The board is considering as a condition suggested that the property given 60 days to submit the application for a special permit to the planning board to start that process.

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That's number one. The building inspector can enforce zoning violation action requires special >> Second. >> I'll second. >> Favor? All right.

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I'll get the get notified the same thing. The board meeting. Such a novel Like I understand it. >> And then we could come up with what we could do the best. >> Sure if everybody else would have thought it would be that it wouldn't be the But again, it would be the planning

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board meeting. Or it should lie with them. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, it should lie with them anyway. Okay. >> Okay. >> And tell us thank you. >> Yep. All right. Good luck. >> Yeah. >> Thank you so much. 1.5 Okay.

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All right. Have a good evening, folks. Thank >> Good night. >> All right. >> You know >> I don't know who the hell it is. >> Thank you. Just as a >> Leave it. >> We've had things where four or five years afterwards they have

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somebody appeal two of the people who had died. Or So, they wanted to know two alternates that both And then they had the alternates All right. Yeah.

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So, the >> We voted on that. I know. >> I I mean, I just said >> I know. >> He's actually voted >> And then I I got to meet I got to meet some few days. So, hopefully we can get it done.

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We're going to give him that sign tonight. >> I'm good night. So, the decision >> Better to see >> Thank you. >> And We're doing a German. I'm going to pull all this. Okay. All right.

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I'm about to win this game.