the city council meeting for Thursday, June 11, 2026. And can we all please stand for the invocation by Pastor Delbert Roberts from Champion Baptist Church and the pledge of allegiance. >> Let's pray together. Heavenly Father, we do pray that you will bless this meeting
tonight. We pray you give the councilman, the mayor, uh, wisdom from above. We pray that the decision made here would be beneficial to each and every one of us. Father, help us to support the people we elect.
Now I pray your blessing upon the meeting in Jesus name we ask. Amen. >> Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you, Pastor Robert Rogers. Thank you, sir. >> All right. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Mayor Robertson, here. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert here. >> Council member Paul here. >> Council member Urban here. Council
member Fletcher >> here. >> All right. First up, we have a presentation for employee of the month of June by Edward Swap. Well, I'm sorry. First, uh, city manager, do you have any agenda updates? >> No, I don't. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you.
And actually before we do that, uh I would like to add two proclamations to the agenda and let's find those on here. Stacy, do you have those? >> They're down there. I'll go ahead and
Yeah, I need to call for a vote on them. >> Yeah, I can get that one. >> Thank you, Scott. All right. Uh, first up, uh, council, we have a proclamation for National Home Ownership Month, uh, to be presented to the Ocula Council Realtors, and the
other one is for June Renick Day here in the city of St. Cloud and which will be read by Ken Gilbert, our deputy mayor. And can I get a motion on these? >> Motion approve. We have a motion approved from Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Second. >> Second from Council Member Paul. Clerk,
please call the role. >> Council member Fletcher. >> I. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Council member Urban. >> Hi. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Hi. >> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries 5-0. >> All right. Thank you. All right, I'd like to ask have Twist Liza Swain in the room from the Realtor
Association and Joe. All right. This is a proclamation for National Home Ownership Month. Whereas home ownership remains a cornerstone of the American dream and a vital foundation for strong, stable, and thriving communities.
And whereas the city of St. Cloud recognizes that home ownership strengthens the local economy, encourages civic engagement, and fosters pride in our neighborhoods. And whereas owning a home provides individuals and families with stability, security, and
the opportunity to build build equity and a pathway toward long-term and generational wealth. And whereas the Ocula County Association of Realtors and its members have served as trusted pro-consumer advocates for more than 100
years, helping individuals and families navigate the home buying and selling process, promoting financial literacy, protecting property rights, and working to expand access to home ownership. And whereas realtors along with lenders,
nonprofit organizations, and local leaders play a vital role in advancing guidance, education, and resources that empower consumers to make informed real estate decisions. And whereas National Home Ownership Month serves as an opportunity to recognize these
collective efforts and to reinforce the importance of responsible and sustainable home ownership. Now, therefore, I, Christian B. Robertson, mayor of the city of St. Cloud along with the city of council do hereby proclaim June 2026 as National Home
Ownership Month. [applause] So, good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Joe Johnson. I have the honor of currently serving as the chair for the Ocultor public policy committee. I am here on behalf of the OSU Realtors board of directors and that
public policy committee. I want to thank the city of St. Cloud for recognizing June as home ownership month. As Mayor Robertson stated, home ownership is critical and plays a vital role in strengthening families, stabilizing
neighborhoods, and building financial security. Yo Realtors really appreciates and continues to value our partnership with the city of St. Cloud in appreciating and fostering home home ownership initiatives. So
thank you so much for this recognition. Appreciate it. [applause] All right. Next up, we have a proclamation being presented by Deputy Mayor Kim Gilbert. Thank you, mayor. I don't know how many people know Jic,
but [applause] >> she was your swim teacher >> in what? First grade, second grade. first grade. >> First grade, >> right? So, so, so, so think about that. Think about service and duty. U her
ex-husband was the mayor here in the 70s, Miss June. Was he the mayor in the 70s or 60s? I know you're only 20, but you married young. >> Yeah, married young. So, so the coolest thing about uh uh the city of St. cloud
is that we honor people that dedicate their life to St. Cloud. As a teacher for 38 years, retired and she still teaches now with the place for grace ministries for GED
a as a volunteer and we had um I think we had eight or nine graduates uh this last semester. The mayor came out and met with them. Uh we give a hand up and hand out. So if you can't recognize the citizens that actually
do the work, don't brag about it. Praise the Lord. She's never, you know, patted herself on the back. I'm kind of scared of her still. But but but but but what a wonderful wonderful person. So I I had asked the
mayor and and he he he um the mayor uh um told me definitely we got to do this. and uh he recognized her. I recognize her. So we have to procize uh Miss June Reic day
and it's going to be every day as as long as I live. But but that's what makes St. Cloud St. Clout and it's Miss June Reic that makes St. Cloud St. Cloud. So I'll get off my horse because I talk a lot in in these council meetings and and mayor kicks me and
says, "Are you done?" So, so I I will uh uh uh talk about the proclamation, but if you love the Lord and love the faith and love the people and you do everything you can, follow her footsteps. We got these beautiful ladies
here that we we met with and they have a mission. And that's the people that have a mission, too. And I'm so proud of you guys. I'm so proud of Miss Reic. And I'm so proud of everything that we do here in St.
Cloud. Don't want to go past the river, but we're okay here past the canal. So, we're gonna we're St. Cloud is the best city to live in, the safest city in the state of Florida. 34th state safest city in in the United States. And and I I continue to say that because it's not
us, it's you. It's not this council which you elect. It's you that help us be who we are. So, so thank you very much. But I'm gonna read the proclamation and I hope not to cry. But I'm a big dude. I got motions.
I I'll fight anybody. But I love everybody. [snorts] So, so, so, so, so let let me read the proclamation if I may. >> Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Piss the cuffs. We're good at one day. Glad >> he's not here yet. >> I know. I'm glad he's not because he he
always looks he always looks at me and goes, "Whoa, what are you saying this time? Is it recorded?" So, but I I I certainly hope this is recorded and I I I certainly hope that you citizens here in St. Cloud that are here sitting here today and are watching on TV will
recognize a 38-year teacher in the city of St. Cloud. 38 years swim teacher uh still an advocate still that what what's better than that? Yeah. What would you if you could tell me what's better than serving the Lord and serving the people?
I I I I I'm going to be remissed to to to know and if you can educate me please because I'm old but I still learn. Whereas we proudly recognize and celebrate the life and service of an extraordinary woman who continues to exemplify compassion, faith and
dedication through her unwavering commitment to the volunteerism and whereas her deep love for God, the devotion to family, the steadfast of service, her community have touched countless lives. And when I say
countless lives, uh uh our mayor is a part of that countless life. and and I'm sure people behind me are too and served as an inspiring example of selflessness, kindness, and generation. And she has served for 14 years on the board of Place for Grace Ministry in the G
mentoring program, swimming, sewing, and class instruction, voting, and supervising. Through the many years of faithful volunteer service, and nonprofit organiz organizations, she has enriched the lives of others. And when I say others,
thousands strengthened the community bonds and demonstrated the profound impact that one carries an individual that has the world around her. Whereas June is 61 today. Well,
I'm sorry. [snorts] 38. She started young. Uh year resident of the former first lady of the city of St. Cloud. She's a retired school teacher in the St. Cloud education system, mother, greatg grandmother and an inspiration for so many. Whereas the
city of St. Cloud recognizes Miss June Reddic for the many years of steadfast service of this community. I myself Ken Gilbert and and the council and the mayor in the city of St. Cloud along with this city council do here compl uh
proclaim June 11th, 20126 as my best buddy June reic day. [applause] [applause] [applause] She was very mad at me for saying we have to we have to cancel the GED program today and as students she goes
these these people need me. I said well we just one day one day. So she's here. So >> you have anything to say? Please I know you're not many words please. I'm overwhelmed. [laughter] I just can't believe it. But wonder why all my
friends and family were well know my family, but my family, my church family were here tonight. But I am so honored and so humbled by this. And I just can't thank you enough for all being here and for supporting all these things. Thank
you. [applause] >> And you had no idea tonight, right? They kind of tricked you into coming here. They do. >> That's so cool. >> We tricked her. >> Yeah. And and I was honored to uh over at the place for Grace, they awarded how many GEDs that night?
>> Five. Eight. >> Eight. Well, we had they had six there, but we had eight that graduated that night. >> And Miss Renick, she's there. She mentors them, helps them through the process, every step of the way. And And I I received a tour of that facility. What an amazing organization, everything you do there. So, thank you very much
for that. Continuing to serve us here in this community. And you taught me to swim. So, how cool is that? I don't know. I'm going under water over here. But that's all right. We're doing good. >> Um, no. Back before when we were a small town, you know, what, 1985? What was
that? We had maybe 8,000 people in our city and and uh we didn't have a city swimming pool. So, the Polynesian in is where they took the kindergarters in first grade. And I think it was you and Bob Callahan were the Wasn't Bob Callahan the the PE coach back then with you. >> Jim Dejakamo was principal. Yes.
>> Bev Parton was kindergarten and Terry Dub was my Terry Herbert. Harbor back then. It's Harvard back then then, too. Yeah. See, I I remember that stuff. So, thank you. And that's it. You give us long lasting memories and and we do appreciate everything you do for our community. >> Thank you.
>> We love you. Why don't you get a picture with the deputy mayor? >> Hey, council. Can you come with us, please? City manager, >> chief. Chief, please. >> You never did.
>> You're gonna stand in the center. You guys, >> we'll stand around you. >> I couldn't tell you this. Thank you, M. Thank you. [applause] [applause] >> All right, next up we have employee of
the month. [clears throat] I don't know how I follow that one up. >> Mayor, council, citizens, and staff. I'm Ed Swap, the natural resources superintendent, and I'm pleased to be back again in front of you all to recognize another amazing employee for
the city. It is my privilege to recognize the our employee of the month, Keith Savage from our beautifification division in the parks and recreation department. I nominated Keith for many reasons, but mostly because he is one of the most deserving employees receive to receive this type of recognition. Keith
has been with the city for 29 years and for the last five he has been the city arborist. If you know Keith and most of you do [laughter] it's not only because he likes to talk to trees, but he definitely shares his passion for trees as well. Over the past
couple of years, Keith has taken it upon himself to repurpose trees to improve the urban canopy in a smart, sustainably focused approach that combines urban forestry, waste reduction, and climate resilience. What that means is in a nutshell is that he cares about what
happens to this city. These trees are being moved from construction sites within the city uh within the city limits and have been planted in places that ultimately would shorten their lives. Doing this provides savings for the city but not only but not having to
purchase by not having to purchase trees. He has currently moved 50 trees to Dakota Avenue Park and a few other locations throughout the city to increase the park's usability and green space. The thing is Keith not was not instructed or asked to do any of this
work. He saw the issue came up with a great solution that would benefit the citizens for future generations. Congratulations, Keith. And thank YOU [applause] YEAH, CONGRATULATIONS, KEITH. How many years with the city? 20 years.
>> 29 years. All right. So, if y'all need a tree that gets trimmed, we're going to give him your his number and you can call him directly, right? He'll take care of that. All right, we're going to go ahead and because we don't have our city attorney here yet, we're going to go ahead and
move to the public comments section. Uh this be the citizens forum. So any any person who desires to comment on any item not on this agenda is provide this opportunity to address the city council. Each person is requested
to complete a signin form to be provided to the presiding officer prior to or as soon as practical thereafter. the person addresses the council and I don't see that we have anything under public comment here. So, anyone in the audience like to speak during the
citizens forum hidden under there. There we go. All right. We have Miss Camille Levy. Good evening, mayor, city council, city staff. I am Camille Levy, 515 Neptune Bay Circle, St. Cloud. We encourage our
citizens to shop and buy local. Yet, we as a city don't do that. Yes, we have a bid process prescribed by law, but that doesn't mean that we have to accept the least expensive, cheapest bid.
The biders accepted should show responsibility and have a proven track record of being responsive. And what about giving priority to those businesses who are based here? And if
they're not based here, how about taking a look at asking bidders to be based here? Maybe we can up our economic development and get some businesses here in town. So that concept might encourage
some local development and local employment. It's time for all of us to shop, buy, and bid local. Thank you. >> Thank you, city manager. Did you hit your light?
>> Yes. Thank you. Um I I just wanted to address that the city had a policy for years. Uh what we used to do was um after we had gone through the process, local entities were able to come in at the end and see if they could match the
bid. And we really uh very few ever did that. Instead, it was just adding a lot of time onto our our procurement process. Additionally, with several of the federal grants that we receive, we have to go with the lowest.
>> Uh, Miss Levy, would you like to I mean, I've got a question really quick just to clarify. Is there a particular project that this was not taken into account? No, I just I take a look at what's happening, you know, and and particularly what we saw
happen with the streets with Pennsylvania Avenue. Um, I think we do a disservice. I understand we try to go with the lowest bid. I know you are all fiscally responsible,
but I also see that sometimes quality. Um, maybe we need to take a look at not the cheapest bid. You know, you get what you pay for and if people take some pride in their work. Um, and I understand
um, city manager the the time involved, but we also are trying to build our local economy and we're not doing anything to encourage businesses to come into St. Cloud to be able to bid. I understand there's a whole process.
However, I think we need to take a look at not just cost effectiveness, but responsiveness and being a responsible community partner with the city. >> Who who who be a responsible partner with
>> the the bidder the whoever the contractor bidder is be a responsible partner with the city? >> Oh, well, we hope so. Especially when we hope so. Hold on, ma'am. So, um talk about the bricks. I don't know. So, do we have any local biders on the bricks on the roads? >> We had a local engineering firm, but I
don't believe we had a local bidder on the bricks. >> Okay. And I think we use some of the local engineering firms for [clears throat] many of our projects. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, we do use a lot of local businesses here for many of the projects and um yeah, I I understand your concerns of what you would like to see
and I believe that we are already doing that. We do show preference. Uh I I know I love the the businesses in our community. So, >> and we want to attract more businesses to our community. It's growing. >> So, you want outside business coming to our community? >> I'd like to see >> to do these jobs. I I guess that's where
I'm trying to clarify. >> I would like to see outside businesses come into the community and base their business here so that we can provide employment for all of our citizens that are local. >> Absolutely. Oh, we want more jobs. We agree. And we focus on that. Yeah. And that's what I understand because you're
saying give the jobs to the people that are already here, but you want to bring the companies in from other places. We want to bring the companies here to be based here. >> Understand. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> All right. Next up, we have Mr. Jim Moore. Uh Jim Moore, 3855, Santa Cedro Circle,
St. Cloud, Florida. Uh good evening, mayor and council. As we approach the upcoming property tax reform ballot measure, I want to thank you each for the hard work you're doing to educate residents to prepare for potential impacts it could have on our city. I recognize the challenges you face. On
one hand, residents are looking for relief from rising costs. On the other hand, the city must continue providing the services that make St. Cloud a safe and desirable place to live. My request tonight is simple. As you continue evaluating the potential impacts of this measure, please keep public safety at
the forefront of your discussions. Our police officers, firefighters, and first responders are essential to the quality of life we enjoy in St. Cloud. As our city continues to grow, the demands on these departments continue to grow as well. Maintaining the staffing, equipment, training, and resources they need is
critical to protect our residents and businesses. As uh Mr. Gilbert always says, St. Cloud has built a reputation as one of the safest communities in some Florida. That reputation is years result of years of investment, planning, and support for public safety. Uh, I encourage you to
continue making police and fire services priority as you navigate the challenges and opportunities that may come from this ballot measure. Uh, thank you for your leadership, for your service to our city and continue commitment to keeping safe cloud St. Cloud a safe place to call home. Thank you guys.
>> Thank you, Mr. Moore. >> Yeah, I understood everything what you were saying there, Mr. Moore. Thank you. Um, anyone else in the audience like to speak? All right. With that, we'll go ahead and go back. Uh, Mr. Mainzer, sir, how are you?
>> I apologize for being late. >> That's okay. All right. First, we have the consent agenda. Uh, next portion of tonight's meeting is the consent agenda, which contains items that have been determined to be routine and uncontroversial. If anyone in the audience wished to address a particular item on the consent agenda,
now is the opportunity for you to do so. Additionally, if staff or members of the city council wish to speak on a consent item, they have the same opportunity. All right. Would anyone in the audience like to speak on any item on the consent agenda?
All right. Council member Urban. >> Uh I I would just like to to uh pull item 8 and 13 and 14. 8 13 and 14. >> City manager. >> Yes. I'd like to ask to pull for
additional clarification. Consent item number one. We had some changes made after the agenda was published and I'd like to ask for our planning director to explain those changes to the city council. and also consent item 10 for Madison Grove. We were missing an
exhibit and I I'd like to ask um Mr. Walker to explain what that exhibit was for the record. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Any other council members like to pull any any items on extend? >> Mayor, if I may have uh item nine just
for a comment, not a question if if that would be okay. All right. Okay. We'll go ahead and start with item number one. >> Thank you, Mayor. Council member Jeffrey Ball, community development director. Uh the changes that were made after the uh
agreement was uploaded had to do with the exhibits not matching what was documented in the agreement itself. There was references to an e exhibit that didn't match. So there was no formative changes that were made in the
difference in the original agreement that was sent to you all to the one that's in your packet today. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> It's in complete copies on their in front of them right now. >> Yes, the complete copy is is in front of
you. Uh any council comments on item one? I know we just pulled it for discussion, but y'all have any All right. Thank you, sir. And we have item number
eight, Council Member Urban. >> Um, yeah. So, I just um in light of the recent legislation that's come out, the overwhelming sentiment that I hear from residents is cities and counties need to be more careful about where we're
spending our money. And you there's a lot of wonderful organizations out there. Um and as Mr. Moore said, we need to support our our our police and fire departments. To me, that's non-negotiable. Uh we I I think that's uh you know, we need to remain the safest city in in the state of Florida.
like Deputy Mayor Gilbert always reminds us. And so while while we're um you know focusing on that, trying to rein in our spending, I just can't support um sending money out to outside organizations right now um in light of the the legislation that's come out. So
I'd like to vote separately on on this one. >> Yes, sir. I agree with you 100%. >> Uh Dan, you want we have other ones to go through, but should we go ahead and take the motion on that one? I think the [clears throat] council members asked for a separate vote. So, you can either do it now. >> Let's go ahead and do it now so we can
get that out of the way. Uh, you you wanted to make a motion on that? I >> I would make a motion to deny at this time. >> All right. We have a motion to deny from uh Council Member Urban and a second from Council Member Fletcher. Will the clerk please call the role on item number eight? >> Council member Paul. >> Nay.
>> Council member Urban. >> Hi. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Hi. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Hi. >> Mayor Robertson, >> I want to clarify this to deny it, right? >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. Can I >> And that's where I wanted to make sure that because you made a motion to deny >> and you What was your vote on that?
>> She voted against >> I'm going to go >> against >> I >> I'm She's supporting that. >> I'm supporting the denial. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. I I just want to make sure because I I I had to kind of go back and listen and go back through the motion. It was a motion to deny
>> for clarification purposes. Can we do it again, please? >> Yes. So, we have a motion to deny. The motion on the floor is to deny resolution 202680. >> That is correct. Yep. We have a motion from Council Member Urban, a second from Council Member Fletcher.
>> Will the clerk, please call the role. >> Council member Paul, >> I. >> Council member Urban, >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert, >> I. >> Council member Fletcher, >> I. >> Mayor Robertson, >> I. >> Motion carries 5-0. >> Thank you. >> All right. And we'll go ahead and move on to item number nine. Council member
Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Uh I just want to recognize that uh Kissback um has donated the property for uh the wayfinder sign for the welcoming to the city of St. Cloud and and I believe that it's super important that we recognize
the downtown historical area. And uh when we put a $10 uh issue to it, the reason why is because it can't be a gift. It has to be a product of of of purchase and them giving us that corner
of New York Avenue and 13th Street is going to be a great indicator and I think mayor we talked about doing you know uh uh um crossover we've talked about doing a lot of things over there but for for that area for
Kissleback Ford to recognize the city of D uh uh city of uh uh uh St. cloud. We we we we have to be thankful for them because we want to recognize the the the vendors and everything that's there. So, uh I don't have a question on that. I
just want to bring it to the attention of the council that this is a a gift at $10 for for an easement and uh I think there are business partners as as Councilman Urban always talks about business and what we do. I think this is
a local business that really supports the city of St. Cloud and the St. Cloud Council and also uh the citizens of St. Cloud. So, I I'm I'm excited to to to um recognize this, but I I also want to
know that they need to be um recognized that we've we've done they've done this for the citizens of St. Cloud and also the business district of St. Cloud. I yield back to you, mayor, but I I think this is is a great great great thing that that happened and I know you
negotiated with the city manager uh mayor uh on that and and I appreciate all you do for for the city to recognize the city of St. Cloud right next to Soldier City Parks. I yield back. >> Yeah. No, you're right. Mr. Kissback has been amazing to our community and I know
every month he honors our our police officers over there with a lunchon. Uh firefighters involved in that. Do they go as well for lunch? >> Yeah, [laughter] >> they >> you see you see Chief Chief Chief Jason back there. >> He doesn't pass up a meal, does he?
[laughter] >> No, Mr. Kessleback, he's been a great partner with our city and uh and and even prior to that, Mr. Poffinball. So, that that dealership right there, they've really given back to our community tenfold. So, it's amazing that he he offered up the space right in
front of the dealership, the plot of land, so we can have some some signage there to to let everybody know where our downtown is. And with that, across the street, there's going to be another one right on Veterans Park property. So, both sides of the highway, I think kind of right across from the other, we're
going to have some signage there. So, it's really going to let everybody know where the downtown is and some I think some current events or what activities that go on in our community. It will be a a tall message board. >> Very cool. >> Both will be tall message boards approved by the CRA and paid by the CRA.
>> All right. Very cool. All right. Next up, we have item 10, city manager. >> Mr. Walker. >> Good evening. Jabari Walker, assistant city manager. Uh so the piece that's missing uh the exhibit is the Florida
Housing Finance Corporations form. Um this will if you guys move forward with this um with with this agenda item, this is the form in which you would author the city manager uh to sign um as a part of um Madison Grove's uh second or third
attempt at trying to get these uh housing tax credits. and it's in front of you right now. >> Yeah. Thank you. Uh, Deputy Mayor Gilbert, >> I I I just want to qualify, if I may, Mayor, that uh this is a a lottery bid process that we're allowing this this is
a loan, not a grant. This is pay payable back to the city of St. Cloud Wii with with an interest rate for that. And I think this is our third attempt in my four years being here in the city council. Uh it's a great motion. It's
not anything that uh we will know until it gets granted, but I I believe and and please correct me if I'm wrong that that's a a lottery for a grant for for this program. I yield back to you, mayor. >> Yes. It's a very competitive process uh
by us offering up this loan that is supposed to help within that process um above potential projects that don't have local uh support >> for senior elderly housing. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And that's why I'd fully support
this. Last year, I know it came before us. This is the same loan because every year they reapply for this. And of course, you know, I'm big on supporting our seniors. Uh I represent this council on the Ocula Council on Aging Board. I was on their housing board for [clears throat] many years, many years ago. Um and and something to point out
because I asked the city manager, I wanted to see the numbers and I know they showed them to me last year, which is why I supported last year as well, but the the annual adorum in 2025, we received $30,169 from them. So that in itself, it provides a tax base where obviously we
all know what's been going on in the world and in the state of Florida over the past few weeks, actually for the past year and a half. This is something that that we need in our community to help operate our city. And so in 30 years, you know, it say it says we we'll
receive $330,000 in interest alone plus our our initial, you know, the 460. So I fully support this. I think it's a great product. I think uh we love our seniors and we want to ensure that they're in uh some affordable housing there. And city manager, did you have something
else to add to that? >> No, thank you. >> All right. Thank you. And we [clears throat] have item number 13. Council member Urban. >> Yeah, 13 and 14 are kind of related. I just have comments on them in my research uh in our agenda packet um over
the last week. Um [clears throat] these are these are just PSPs but digging deeper um these it's yet another uh dentist office and tire shop and I know residents are tired of us having a duplicate of uh the 50th tire shop and
50th dentist office and we talk about we need more commercial uh here in our our city but we need quality commercial we need high wage jobs quality commercial and uh things that make St. Cloud the best place to live, work and play. So, I just wanted to point out to the residents, these are just PSPs, so
there's really nothing we can do about it at this point. But as we look in the future at new commercial developments, this council has been pretty consistent about uh putting those conditional uses on it and prohibiting the less desirable commercial outcomes. So, that's my only
uh only comments on that. >> All right, deputy mayor. >> Uh just a clarification for anybody in audience, the PSP means a preliminary subdivision plan. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I I I I I understand acronyms a lot, but and and I'm I'm old,
so I'm confused sometimes, too. But a PSP is a preliminary subdivision plan. And u I don't know about anybody here, but I need the dentist. You know, I'd love to whenever I get my teeth cleaned, it's like it's the best feeling ever.
So, I yel back. >> If if I may, mayor, uh just to clarify, >> I got to keep looking for you. [laughter] >> Usually, you're right. I'm like, where where's that voice? Yes. >> If I may, the [laughter] plier subdivision plan that that is before
you, the 16 lot ni uh it is a dentist office. However, the other lot is a Dutch Brothers and so if you know Dutch Brothers, >> it's a very very uh well-known coffee franchise. The other lot is undetermined right now. So, just want to bring that
to your attention. the other three lot subdivision on 192 the tire shop is existing so it's not a new tire shop it's already existing thank you >> yeah and with that I I I'm along with the the the council member Urban is that
and I think we've talked about that in the future well was in the past but saying in the future we want to try and either put a a moratorum or try and exclude some of these uses in the highway business zoning I know it's it's too late to do it on some of these um but Dan What's your take on that on
excluding is that violates section 180? >> Well, it could at this point moving forward you really couldn't do anything to make it more restrictive given that until that Senate Bill 180 time period expires, >> right? Uh and then of course one of the issues we got into in the past is that
under this under most land development codes in the state they define zoning categories basically retail commercial those things and then you get within them and say well a tire storm I mean I'm sorry say let's the one that everybody always complains about mattresses mattress stores right those
are retail establishments right so are you are you going to create a district that prohibits mattress store which is essentially a retail operation but allows other similar retail sell things. They just happen to sell a different product. So, that's when it starts to get a little tricky and a little challenging to be able to get your code
set up to to not overly be too too restrictive when it comes to commercial retail businesses. >> Yeah. And and like I said, I don't I'm not a huge fan of all these. Obviously, the the dentist offices, it does seem like it's the same ones over and over
and over again. Um but legally, it doesn't seem like there's anything. We kind of the market kind of determines Yes. what what uses are going in there and if it's an allowable use in our city um at this point we can't restrict those uses.
>> Not without chasing away potentially other commercial uses that you might feel might be more beneficial. >> Right. Yeah. And and obviously we want the rest of the public to understand that that we we're not in the business up here that that we want tire shops or mattress stores or all of that across
our whole highway. But um unfortunately that's what's been coming to the table past few years. Uh Deputy Mayor, did you have anything? I know >> you you you answered it, Mayor. Uh uh I I I think um when you look at uh
businesses, they look at needs and that's why they come into specific areas. um a dental office or MET, they're not going to come here unless they feel there's a need and they do their ROIs on this all the time.
Uh return on investment, I'm sorry, acronym something, but but they're going to look at that and they're going to look at how they make money, especially the uh national organizations uh that that that say, "Okay, St. Cloud's grown this much. They may need 10 more
mattress stores or 15 more oil stores or 15 more. Uh I don't think economic developments I is is important and I think this this council is so huge on that and I think we're doing a great job with it and we've the the firm we hired.
But these are national companies that actually know what they're doing. They're gonna they're they're looking at needs and wants and and they're not going to do it because most of them are publicly uh owned and they're gonna look at how much money they can make and and
they see the growth of the city of St. Cloud. So, they're jumping on board. So, although we don't want to continue the Facebook outlet, whatever it is, I don't I'm not even part of Facebook, but but uh that's what national companies do. they they have a really good feeling and
I think this council here is really looking heavily on bringing more jobs here to the city but our population is growing so we do need dentists we do need oil change people and and uh Waw Wa's been working real well and and that's how it happens so
the only thing I say is we can't con constrict and an attorney tell me businesses that come in if they follow the rules the same as housing developments without a yield back to you, mayor, but but it for us at council say we can't have
an air dentist office. It it it's we can't do that. >> Yeah. >> And I yield back. Thank you very much for for for understanding that and thank you very much, Dan. If you have any input on what we can restrict or not restrict in city of St. Cloud, let me know. [laughter]
>> I certainly will. Council member Paul >> and I also wanted to add that this subject property is part of the nultic commercial subdivision which was approved on 911 2023. And I'm putting a date out there because a lot of times things come before us and they're
automatically thinking we're approving 2,800 homes when a lot of this stuff has already been in work years before we come. So I just want to make that clear on record. >> Yeah. Thank you. And I've requested from the city manager. She's provided me in great detail a number of these projects.
Everything that that we've done over the this past these past few years, this council, I know we've gone in a whole different direction over the past year and a half and um our focus has been economic development, commercial uh commercial tax base. We have not we've really tried to not have the citizens
feel the impact and um and obviously we're our our feet's getting held to the fire now. I think uh it's going to be a true test of how how we can accomplish that in in the the coming months. So, um now that we're up here discussing, before we move on, I just wanted to
point out you talked about economic development, our downtown project here, and I could have saved this for later, but I'm going to say it now. Um the city manager, uh you sent me an email, and I don't have it up here. The tax base that that will will provide to us.
It was a rough estimate, but it was approximately $250,000 a year, >> right? Yeah. And and I look, I really wish we could hit a jump back in a time machine and go back to 1985, but uh because I was here in 1985, as you all
saw, Miss Renick. Um, and it's unfortunate, but everybody discovered that that we exist and they love our community and I love our community. And I I wish we were back to the cattle ranches and the orange groves and and the the really truly small town feel. I
think we still have an amazing community and we need to continue to operate that amazing community and our focus as of lately of course has been with our public safety and we've invested heavily in our public safety because we have to stay out in front of that as our community continues to grow. That is
that has to remain number one and we are number one in the state as deputy mayor does say over and over again. We love that. Um, with that, I'll go ahead and I just wanted to point out that that project is going to be an amazing project in the city and it is not section 8. There are a lot of misconceptions out there. These are
affordable units. As the mayor of St. Cloud, my paychecks, I received about 32,000 33,000 a year. Uh, yeah, that I I would qualify. So, as the in the low income section there. So, if y'all you know, I don't know who believes that the mayor of the city of St. Cloud should
not be able to live in there. I don't know who should, you know. Uh, with that, Council Member Urban, you already tap talked about number 14, right? >> Yep. I'm good. >> All right. So, we only there was only one that we wanted to pull out for a separate vote. So, we'll go ahead and
get a do anybody in the count and anyone in the audience like to speak on any of the consent items or have I said enough? Can we get a motion to approve all the items uh minus the one we already voted on? >> Motion to approve the consent agenda. Motion approved from council member
Urban. >> Second. >> Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Hi. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Hi. >> Council member [clears throat] Paul. >> Hi. >> Mayor Robertson. >> Hi. >> Motion carries 5. >> Thank you.
We've done the citizens forum. And next up we have public hearings. Will the clerk please read public hearing number one? >> Final public hearing for ordinance number 2026-26. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud City of St. Cloud amending chapter 38 street
sidewalks and other public places to create new sections 38-6 permit required for using public property for compensation or consideration providing for conflict serverability administrative corrections codification publication effective date. >> Good afternoon mayor and city council.
Scott David off, deputy city manager, standing in for our parks and recreation director, Stephanie Camp, who's got on a well-deserved vacation uh this week. Uh the item before you tonight is ordinance number 2026-26.
It's the request to approve permit system for using public property for consideration and compensation. Uh, as you're well aware and discussions that have been had here before this council, over the past several years, the city has experienced an increase in
businesses and individuals who are looking to use public parks and city facilities to conduct commercial activities and provide services uh that they're being paid for. City continues to find many businesses operating via social media. In fact, we just found
another one uh just the other day who is advertising their program uh with their fees and their rates in a city facility. Uh this creates obvious uh liability concerns and city concerns, but it also presents conflicts with our existing
programs and rentals where somebody may be out advertising a program that is not prohibited and there could be a resident who's out there who actually has rented a facility and gone through that process. uh and this same process and policy already exists at the lakefront
that the council had enacted uh in regards to the commercial watercraft that are out there. What this ordinance does is it amends chapter 38 of the city code and it creates a new section regarding commercial use of city property and protects public property
and regulates the business activities, supports public health, safety and welfare and ensures facility space availability. The requirements for this are those businesses are or individuals they must obtain written authorization before conducting their commercial activity on
city property. They would be required to provide proof of insurance and completed background screenings. And again, this is identical to everything that is already existing under our regular contractual providers throughout the city. And the activity must be scheduled
through the parks and recreation department. The activities that this covers would be those where someone is providing services uh where they're being paid for. That also includes free programs uh that are scheduled utilizing city
facilities, advertising and displaying of merchandise, soliciting businesses or conducting transactions for profit, posting or distributing advertisement circulars or hand billills, recreational services, medical services, educational services.
It's really two different options uh that we have for those businesses that are looking to do this. Uh generally everyone who is operating for profit uh where they're charging fees uh we have a standard 7525 revenue split
the same thing that the city has been doing for a number of years. It's our existing city policy. Uh this includes those businesses. There's an executed agreement with the city. Payments are made directly to the city. There's flyer and website and address that we can put
on city uh city websites to help advertise those businesses. Uh the monthly payment is then issued by the city to the vendor. They have to provide the proof of liability insurance and indemnification, successful background checks, uh
registered business with the state. They have to have a current BTR and ensure that they're in compliance with all park rules, scheduling their days and times. And then also recreation staff would make sure that the rooms or the facilities that they're looking for are available. Now, there are also a number
of free programs that are out there that offer free service to uh the community. Could be a yoga program, could be some sort of health program that's out there. And we also want to make sure that we're encouraging those. They go through the same process except for those pro those
programs. Obviously, there's not a 75 25% split, but they're still required to provide all that same information to the city. And again, it's the same process as it is for the uh paid businesses and paid programs. And this applies to all
city-owned, leased, operated, or controlled properties. Includes land, building, facilities, equipment, and projects. Uh the exceptions for this, there are some separate agreements that city council has authorized. Little League is a great example. Uh those franchise
agreements, concessionary agreements, those fall outside of this process. And then business tax receipts or city county licenses alone do not authorize activity on city property, which is one thing that city staff and uh Casey out
there at the park has heard many times. enforcement and penalties. Uh, obviously they would be subject to penalties under section 1-15 and article six of the city code and that may result in enforcement action. First offense, if someone were
to see them out there, the vendor would be provided information on how to do their program the right way. Give them the information who to contact, how to do this. If they were out there a second time and they were caught, they would be required to stop the program that they
were doing at that point and then subsequent violations may result in up to being trespassed from city property. Hopefully, somebody would understand the process from the beginning and look forward to doing it because there's a lot of benefits for these businesses to move forward with this type of agreement
with the city. Outside of that, staff recommends approval of ordinance 2026-26. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Uh, anyone in the audience like to speak on this item? All right. Deputy mayor.
>> Uh, we're going to talk candidly about this because, um, it's near and dear to my heart of of of of youths and and doing things and and having activities and and and and I I I understand that when I was a kid and
probably you guys were kidding me, you go to ball field and you play ball and it's it's transformed. I've I have five children that have played AU basketball, football. I've coached for 26 years. Uh I some of my uh children and and over
the thousand kids I coach have granted scholarships because of these youth programs. But I look [clears throat] at my lens is a little different now because we have insurance issues. We have an NPO and I
don't know if anybody knows this but the the the CEO of Goodwill uh was salary was $22 million last year and Goodwill is a nonprofit organization. So, so, so you've got to kind of, you know, see what an NPO is or NGO is. I'm sorry,
nonprofit. I'm sorry, [laughter] I go to explain that, but but but we acronym them. And then we also have the insurance programs with that. And then we also have we want those parks open for anybody. And if youth organizations
go into those, then the people that just want to toss a football around or sling a Frisbee around or shoot a basketball around, they're not allowed to do that during these times because these organizations come in and use our properties for for no cost at all. And
and I'm going to ask our city uh attorney, our our insurance is a biggest thing ever. It doesn't go down. And if anybody here knows that has an insurance company that says your insurance is less next year than it is this year, I I tell me because I want I need to get that
insurance. [snorts] Uh so I I I don't know. And I'm asking council to to assist me in this. How do we provide these and protect our city to do those? and and and and and I have a nonprofit
organization, but uh and by the way, zero salary on that nonprofit organization, but how do we do that and protect our city and allow everybody to be able to participate in Chisum Park, and Hickory Tree, and Lakeshore? I I I
I'm baffled. We want to give this stuff to the citizens, but we don't want people profiting off of our our parks that which is the greatest thing we have, but it's it it's a lost leader. It it seriously our parks and
wrecks is a lost leader. And what I mean by that, it if we don't make any money on that and and the citizens that don't use it, we're we're letting the 1% of the people that use it gain financially. So, I I asked the
council today because I don't get to talk to you very much and we can't talk at all about this. Uh, help me find a resolution where it's good for the citizens and it's also good for the programs and it's also good for the city that our costs don't add up. With that,
mayor, I have to [snorts] yield back. I I wish I had the answer for this one. I I wish I could tell you just open it up to anybody who wants to come in, but everything cost, you know, you get a cup of ice and it's like buck [clears throat] 50 and and that's why I
just make ice in my house. But but but the the simple thing is is that I asked the council to help me with this because it's the only time I get to talk to you guys about it. How do we provide because I want kids outside. I want kids playing. I want kids recreational. But you have so many organizations now that
said they're NPOS's but the director of that NPO is pulling down 100 and a half a year and charging but they don't want to pay for our cost. So I I yield back to you mayor but I would really like some reaction from the council of your
thoughts on this. I yield back. Thank you. >> All right council member. Um I I actually had the opportunity to go out on site at Chisum Park and meet with uh Casey out there and it was an eyeopening uh experience. It was like a Tuesday afternoon and that place was just
jam-packed. It um you know I know all of us grew up here in St. Cloud and and u I remember Chism Park being a a wide open no man's land when I was a kid, but it's not that way anymore. our cities has just grown too much where we can't, you
know, we've got to have some guard rails uh to to deputy mayor's point. I think, you know, having agreements like this, that 7525 uh agreement is a great way to to say, "Hey, we're happy to have you here. We love to have you sports activities and
everything going on, but um we got to make this equitable for for everyone in our city." So, I think this is a good step moving forward. >> Council member Paul, >> and I agree as well. Would there be like some kind of time slots of >> everything would be done based on the
the actual use? Some of these programs want to be out two days a week, three days a week at certain different times. But there's already the programs that exist out there and that's where some of the problems have already occurred where somebody wants to come out the same time as there's an existing program or
there's somebody who's out there. So that's why it's all scheduled through the parks and recreation department because they have that master calendar to see where those holes are and those those time slots are available. >> All right. Thank you, >> city attorney. >> Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So,
starting with uh Deputy Mayor Gilbert's comments, I think it's important to remember that this ordinance is not intended to be punitive. Even though it has what was what you might look at as violations and trespass and other things, the intent of this was to provide these programs that are existing
in the state in the city and using the city's parks to basically be required to come to the city and say, "Hey, this is the program I want to put on for the kids in the community." So then we can address all the issues, staff can address all the issues that we're talking about, the liability issues, the insurance issues, how it's going to be
regulated, parking, all those kind of things that happen in those events. So the idea is this would be the the opportunity for the city to go back to individual and say, "Yeah, we want you to use our parks subject to availability, but here's what you have to do to be able to use them. We want you to have all these kids out there
playing and doing all the things, but this is the process that's in place. >> Does that mean I can still set up a lemonade stand in deputy mayor's front yard, not have to pull a permit?" >> It's now 50 cents, not 10 cents. >> No, I think that's the whole idea here.
you know, you can't just set up in in a city park and use a city address to market a commercial business. And I think we've had that that problem in the past and and I think this clarifies that and and addresses that issue. So, thank you and staff for putting this together.
All right. And can I get a motion on this item? >> Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. Council member Paul. >> Second. >> Second from Council Member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. I, >> Council Member Fletcher. >> Hi, >> Council Member Paul. >> Hi, >> Council Member Urban.
>> Hi, >> Mayor Robertson. >> Hi. >> Motion carries 5-0. >> All right. Next up, we have discussion, possible action regarding appointment to the vacancy for the fire and police pension board. Let me get my sheet. All right. First up, I believe that we
have the uh we have Mr. Mr. Benny Shepard who holds seat five and he has re is it he has reapplied is that how this what I'm reading >> he was approved on consent item number 15 the the board ratified >> yeah that's his placement
>> he was already on there okay good >> this is for the current vacancy there's three applicants uh off the top of my head um there's Mr. Corey Targia there's Mr. Matthew Chesler and there was a citizen um
>> Mark. Okay. >> All right. And we have Corey Targia requesting reappoint. >> All right. And do we have a motion? [snorts] Uh Deputy Mayor Gil. May May [clears throat] I just ask the council to to assist me in this please? Uh we
have a vacancy uh uh Mr. uh Corey uh could be re-uped. We have um u I think the board uh takes a citizen and please ask me that tell me if I'm wrong Dan on that and and we have the folks that
council uh appointed by fire police get appointed and the council has the vacancy. Uh I met with Mr. Corey, I do believe he's doing a good job. I I I I just don't know. Um I I need council's
assistance on this of uh I just would love your thoughts before we go ahead and vote on this. So, if I could have any comments from the from the council, uh mayor, I would appreciate that. And because I'm kind of torn, I I think Corey does a good job. Uh but this is
going to sound real weird. Uh we've got uh a lot of police, not so much fire, and an appointed board. I don't know if it needs to be a 221. I don't know what that means. I don't think that matters at all, but I just need council's opinion on that
before I decide my vote if I if I may. Mayor Yo back and Dan, I know you're looking to speak on this. >> Well, I was just going to point out so these boards are these are unique boards. There are five seats. Two are appointed by the council. So they are direct council appointment. There's one
each appointed by fire and police and then the fifth seat is appointed by basically by the is nominated by the four others. So the existing board nominates the fifth seat which is ratified by the council. >> Seat five is appointed by >> seat five. The seat five is appointed by
the by the other board members and then ratified by the city by the council. That's why it was on the consent agenda tonight. >> I see. >> Okay. So you're on >> we just ratified it. We just said Yeah. He's okay. >> So, uh, [laughter] he's great.
>> We love Vinnie. But, but but, but basically, uh, and if if we look at it at a bird's eye view or Jones view now, uh, is that it's kind of like our council here, uh, we're elected a council. the mayor's appointed as the
mayor and the the other four of us decide who the deputy mayor is and appoint that person as the next deputy mayor for a year's period of time and I think that's what you're telling me that the board does for the fifth seat is that right uh uh attorney
>> yes so the the way that this is still all set forth in the statute that created the police and fire pensions boards so that's how the boards are set up >> all right um yeah I'd like to say some I I truly believe in these types of boards, institutional knowledge is important. I know on our employee
pension boards, it's the same way. We've got people who have served there for many, many years. And I think those are the types of boards that it it's it's volunteer, I believe, right? These are not part of their paid positions with the city of St. Cloud. >> Um I also have spoken with M Mr. Targia
and I think he's done an amazing job on that. And uh I I will go ahead and make a motion to reappoint Corey Targia to that board for C1. I'll second. All right. Motion from the mayor. Second from Council Member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role?
>> Council member Fletcher. >> I. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> I. >> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries. 5-0. >> Thank you. >> All right. Next up, we have first readings and introduction. I keep losing
our monitor. Uh, next items on the agenda are ordinances before the council for first reading and introduction for the sole purpose of the council to authorize the publication of the ordinance for a final hearing. The council will not take final action on the item tonight. Full presentations and public input on the
ordinances will occur at the final hearing at which the council will consider final action. All right. And will the clerk please read uh item number one? First reading introduction for ordinance number 2026-24 an ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud Florida providing a zoning
amendment the zoning map of the land development code of the city of St. South Florida specifically changing the zoning designation approximately plus - 7.17 acres identified as Nova Road out parcels project ZMA 25-000022 from CCC Community Center CPS County to
CCC Community Center Core City generally located north of East Earl Bronson Memorial Highway East of Nova Road south of Wanderers Place west of Bradley Drive providing for entering the design designation of the official zoning map filing the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication survivability and effective date.
>> All right. All right. Can I get a motion? >> Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. Council member Urban. >> Second. >> Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> I. >> Council member Fletcher.
>> I. >> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries 5-0. >> Will the clerk please read item number two? >> First reading introduction for ordinance number 2026-25. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud Florida providing a zoning amendment of the zoning map of the land development code of the city of St.
Cloud Florida specifically changes zoning designation approximately plus minus 26 27.26 26 acres identified as Stephanie Lee Rossai Memorial Park. Additional parcel parcels project ZMA2-000023 from Agricultural to O Open Space
Recreational Generally located north of Barnia Street east of Missouri Avenue south of Sky Lake Drive and west of South Indiana Avenue providing for entering the designation of the official zoning map filing the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication to regulate an effective date. >> All right, can we get a motion? Item
number two, >> motion to approve. Motion approved. Council member Paul. >> Second. >> Second. Council member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> I. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Mayor Robertson.
>> I. >> Motion carries 4 Z. >> All right. Will the clerk please read item number three? >> First reading and introduction for ordinance number 2026-28. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Cloud amending chapter 30 parks and
recreations article 1 in general sections 30-9 smoking prohibited for further define to further define smoking and add the lakefront air as an area where smoking is defined and is prohibited providing for conflict servability administr administrative corrections codification publication
effective date. >> All right. I know y'all filled out a form but we're not going to discuss it ourselves either tonight. We're just advertising [laughter] it. So next next meeting, right? >> All right. Just making sure y'all knew that. Uh, all right. Can I get a motion on this? >> Motion approved. >> Motion approved. Deputy Mayor Gilbert.
>> Second. >> Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> I. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries 40. >> All right. Will the clerk please read
item number four? First read the introduction for ordinance number 2026-29. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Florida amending a future land use designation to approximately plus plus - 46.11 acres identified a public safety complex project CPA 26-0000007
generally located north of Nelty Road east of Buddinger Avenue south of Juliana Court and west of Cano Creek Road from mixed use to institutional providing for amending of the official future land use map of the comprehensive plan following the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication applicability effects servability copies
on file and effective date >> and can I get a motion >> motion to approve >> motion Approved. Council member Urban. >> Second. >> Second. Council member Paul. Will the clerk please call the role. >> Council member Fletcher. Hi. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Council member Urban. >> Hi. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. Hi.
>> Mayor Robertson. >> Hi. >> Motion carries 5-0. >> Will the clerk please read? You need a breather? >> No, I'm good. >> Item number five. >> First reading introduction for ordinance number 2026-30. An ordinance of the city council of the city of St. Cloud, Florida providing a zoning amendment of
the zoning map of the land development code of the city of St. Cloud Florida specifically changing the zoning designation approximately plus - 46.11 acres identified as public safety complex project ZMA 26-0000006 from mixed mixed use to P professional
generally located north of Ny Road east of Buddinger Avenue south of Juliana Court and west of Cano Creek Road providing for entering the designation official zoning map filing the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication survivability effective date >> and a motion >> motion motion approve >> to approve right
>> yes sir I'm Sorry, sir. Sorry, >> I jumped the gun. >> I'm sorry, sir. Motion approved. >> Yes, mayor. Mo motion approved. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Second. Council member Urban. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Council member Paul. Council member Urban. >> Hi. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Hi. >> Council member Fletcher. Hi.
>> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries 40. >> I made the assumption it was to approve it. [laughter] >> Uh, will the clerk please read item number six? First reading introduction for ordinance number 2026-32 an ordinance of the city council of the
city of St. Florida assigning a future land land use designation approximately plus minus 274.26 26 acres identified Stephanie Lee Rossai Memorial Park project CPA 26-00005 generally generally located north of Briana Briana Street east of Missouri
Avenue and south of Sky Lake Drive and west of South Indiana Avenue for employ from employment institutional to park open spaces providing for amending of the official future land use map of the comprehensive man plan following the planning commission's recommendations proof of publication applicability
effects seability copies on file and effective Can I get a motion, please? Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. Council member Urban. >> Second. >> Second. Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Will the clerk please call the role?
>> Council member Urban. >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Hi. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Hi. >> Council member Paul. >> I. >> Mayor Robertson. >> I. >> Motion carries 5-0. All right, that brings us to the city attorney section. >> Thank you, mayor. And again, I apologize
for being for >> He's got something to add. >> Yep. Hold on. >> You want to add it now? >> I I I just like to always say I'll yield. >> I I'm sorry. I I yield back, but I would just like to invite you young ladies to the city council to look at the JPA and see what we do behind the scenes if if
you'd like to do that after meeting. you've been so great and and being a part of government is huge. So, I I didn't want you leave before you sacrificed all this time to listen to our nonsense, but I I'd like you to come over and just see how we work and and what we do and let you meet each of the
council people and ask any questions that you have. And I'm sorry that stepped stepped in there. I I apologize. city manager, if you would please, a after the meeting, we'll go back in there and see what uh what what how we hang out if that's okay. [laughter] I
apologize. >> That's good. He's veryospitable, Mr. Gilbert. >> Okay. Uh city attorney, do you have anything else to add? >> I Well, no, I don't not not to that. So, um again, I [clears throat] do apologize for being late today to >> By the way, he threatened to beat up
people. I don't know. Earlier he was going to fight. >> We'll tell you later. >> Okay. Really? It's hearsay. That's hearsay. I know you're an attorney. That's hearsay. >> I know. >> He said, "I'll fight anyway." [laughter] >> Well, I did the at the u I think the last workshop that we had and that I
attended, we discussed the the special magistrate's order at the code enforcement matter related to St. Cloud Hotel. And so I just wanted to have bring it back up and have a little update and have some discussion and make sure that staff the way staff is looking at it and our office is looking at this
is consistent with the council's direction on this. Um, as you know in back in February this the special magistrate in an order saying that the uh u that the owner of the hotel was in violation of the city code because it had not obtained the required re re-uped
its permit that had expired several months before. also because there were some fire safety uh problems in the building uh that needed to be addressed. At that hearing in February, he he gave this the uh special the owner of the of [snorts] the hotel until March 6 to
obtain a permit and also uh some time to address the public safety issues related to the fire department. uh at the uh at the May meeting, we brought the item back, the item came back in front of the special magistrate because they had not obtained the permit and that a fine had
occurred to about $74,000 at that time. Uh so uh at that hearing the special magistrate heard from the respondent, heard from the city, we argued that they that the fines should stay in place and that the uh uh and and that the uh
because the hotel operator had not or at least the owner of the hotel had not obtained the permit by March 6. There was a lot of as those you saw the hearing, there was a lot of discussion back and forth about it. Uh the respondent made comments about how they were trying and trying to do that. uh and the city was kind of making them
jump through hoops that they shouldn't have had to jump through. Um we obviously argued it contrary to that. Uh we felt that the contractor admitted that it was basically his fault that they had not got not gotten the permit. Um but in in spite of all that, the
special magistrate entered an order which uh was entered a couple days after that hearing where he essentially said um I find that they did they they they're not in compliance. So they didn't get the permit, but by March 6th, uh they would give he gave them until
June 1st to get the permit. If they got the permit by June 1st, then he would basically reduce the $74,000 fine to $5,000. and they did they did get the permit by June 1st. Now the key component to that is to remember going back to the
February meeting the February hearing and the February order the special manager did two things. He said get the permit by March 6 and then he also said you have to complete the construction of the hotel and get a certificate of occupancy by March 6th of 2027. So
basically gave them a year to do that. What's key is in the in the recent hearing the special magistrate did not change that March 6, 2027 date. So right now they are obligated under that order to to get their certificate of occupancy
for the hotel by March 6 of 2027 or to face additional fines. Now, city staff, as mo many of you know, has caught a little bit of what I'll use the word grief because I feel like we the city staff's been pushing hard on this. Um
I've actually got some contact from folks and said that we were a little rough on the respondent uh at the hearing, but um you know, we've been following the direction of the city council that time that this thing needs to get motivated to the point of completion. Uh so we intend to move forward with that. Um, at this point,
uh, the city, as legal counsel, I have to advise you, the city could appeal this order that was entered at the May, uh, hearing in front of the special magistrate. Basically, what we would be appealing is that the special magistrate wrongfully reduced the $74,000 fine to
5,000. That would be the only issue that we'd be able to appeal because the March 2027 date is still in place. He hasn't changed that, right? So, I don't see real value in the city appealing that part of it all, but I do see value in
making sure that that March of 2027 date does not change and that if it and if the hotel doesn't have certificate occurrency by that day, the city imposing uh asking the special magistrate to impose additional fines. Um, so that's kind of where we are with
it all. And again, um, we want to make sure that we're on the same page with the city council moving forward with this. Uh, and so we'd appreciate any direction you might have on it. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Well, thank you, Attorney. Um, I I I
never thought and I still don't think it's a monetary value. I I think it's a beautifification value to our downtown city of St. Cloud. I I would strongly uh uh encourage the rest of the council to impose the deadline dates for completion. I I I don't the fines all
that. I don't think anybody here in council, and I only speaking for myself, was looking at a monetary thing, but sometimes when you hit people's pockets, they seem to move. Well, they haven't moved in 10 years. So, I don't think it's a monetary thing, but I would
really strongly ask the council to support me in making sure this deadline does not uh go further. There's that there's no uh acceptance to that. And and the deadline's a deadline. I I I could see if it's a year. I can see if
it's two-year. I can see if it's progress. But since this decision's been made three months ago, nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing that's happening over there. So, so, so what are we doing? You can't appease people
that that that aren't working with you. And I think the city of St. Cloud, and I've only been here for three and a half years, has bent over backwards to support this organization. in a group to do this. But at one time you got, you
know, you can only Mike Tyson says great, you always have a plan till you get punched in the face. Well, the city of St. Cloud's going to be punched in the face 17 times by this organization. And we have to look at that and say, "No, we're not budging from that deadline date." And you know how upset I
am about the magistrate's decisions, but I I I I I think the magistrate I would ask the council to support me in making sure the magistrate does not change that deadline date. With that AO back, but enough's enough. Thank you, Mayor.
>> Yes, sir. Uh, Council Member Urban. >> Um, well, first and foremost, uh, um, Dan, you have my full support and staff has my full support on how they handled that. I don't think it was too harsh at all. Uh, in fact, it could have been even more harsh ba based on what we've
been dealing with and our citizens are sick and tired of seeing a permanent construction site in our downtown area. Um, I agree with uh Deputy Mayor Gilbert's point about holding steady to the deadline. The problem is they had a deadline and they missed it and the magistrate just gave him a little slap
on the wrist and said, "Go, oh, that's fine. You can get on with it." That's the problem I have. I would like to appeal that decision and get the full amount of fines that that should have been given to the city for the deadline that they missed in the first place, but absolutely that March deadline about
having the CEO should 100% be enforced and not moved. It's it's absolutely ridiculous and disgraceful what they have put the city through and what they [clears throat] have put our downtown through to have to look at a permanent construction site. That's all I have to say. >> Council member Fletcher,
>> I have a question. I have a question for Dan with because I've never seen a situation like this. Um, if an order is entered in by the special magistrate, does he have the authority to reduce the fine? >> Yes, the fine he does. So, the way the
the the the fine the lean runs in favor of the city. So, under certain circumstances in St. CL the special magistrate can reduce the lean but when it's just a fine and remember this was this was at the fine stage a lean hadn't been created on on
it uh yet so he does have the ability to reduce the fine >> okay >> all right um council member Urban wants to move forward with the uh appeal on that is that correct or >> appeal the Okay how does that work Dan
what are the >> and I I understand the frustration and it I I would just have to be frank with you. I do not think there's going to be a lot of merit in trying to appeal this because of the fact that one thing that Mr. Fletcher just brought up the fine it was at the fine stage which under the
statute is in the sole control of the special magistrate until a lean is created. Right. I think it's be it would be more it would be be prudent to just monitor the project see what happens and come that March date or if you know
there is a permit in place and that permit was issued in June I think at right at the end of May it may have been issued uh so they if that permit expires again because they haven't done what they're supposed to be then we'd be back
in the same boat we were then so um I think that's probably more prudent uh way to address this because I don't think you get a a lot of success in trying to appeal what he's done so far. >> Deputy mayor, uh one thing I know is what I don't know and I I wanted to take
the this uh magistrate into the council's decisions to make decisions on these uh items. And I was informed by you that we can't, but I was informed also we can uh uh have a special citizens board that we can appoint to do
these uh uh issues. I'd like the council to look at that and I'd like you to address how we can change from a magistrate to a city um board that makes those decisions because I I feel the citizens are are entitled to make those
decisions versus a magistrate that doesn't live here, doesn't do there, and we just pay them. Um I I would like to the the council to consider to uh we we can appoint a board that that looks at the fines and in situations like that.
But we can't I from my understanding again I I'm not smart. I I you know I I I grew up this school of rockheads, you know, but but I I would like to find out how we can figure >> rockheads. >> Rockheads, you know, I got hit in the head so much I heard. [laughter]
>> I did that. I'm with you. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know, the scuffle butt stuff. But but I I I would like the the board uh the council because I can't talk to you how we can uh uh get a board of citizens to decide what we're talking about today because we have a magistrate
that gets paid and doesn't live here and goes home with his check and doesn't see that uh atrocity every day. But but I I don't know how to do that. So, I'm asking council to to help me with and I'm asking you as the attorney, how do we move forward to not have a dude that
sits here or or do that that makes a decision that doesn't affect them whatsoever. >> So, process-wise, under the code enforcement statute, you can either a municipality or county can either have a code enforcement board or a code enforcement special magistrate. Uh, St. Cloud used to have a code enforcement
board 20 something years ago uh and then transferred into a special magic state. A lot of municipalities did that. There are pros and cons for both. Um if the council would like us to provide some more information on it and review, we certainly can do that. >> Thank you, sir.
>> A jury or their peers, right? That's >> that's >> Yeah, I agree with you on that. All right. Uh Council Member Fletcher, you had comments on this? Um I was well I mean now that you brought up the discussion with the code enforcement board. I was going to say that I would fully support um an appeal as well. Um I
would like to have discussion on the I think it would be good for council to see the differences between the special magistrate and how the code enforcement board operates. I you know my previous life I've had to stand in front of both of them and there there is a difference and having a citizen
appointed board I don't necessarily think we would be in the position that we are today if we we would have had that in place. Yeah, and I see a lot of comments al although you know it's it's social media is just a fraction of the citizens on there but I do see a lot of
citizens on there that say well what are they doing about the St. cloud hotel and I believe we have been addressing this issue for some time now and have it it it's like who said unchartered waters or something we haven't been down this path before with with something like this and
I think it's um if it weren't such a big building and right there at the core intersection right there I think that's why everybody takes notice of it and and I think getting something finished and across finish line would really help out our downtown so I support anything um to
to move forward with this uh if Dan doesn't think that an appeal is the right action to take at this time, we just kind of move for the and there's teeth with that, right? >> Yes. There's there's there's potential for additional fines if they don't get the CO by that date.
>> All of the fines are are >> but then we would be asking to have all the fines reapplied when we cut to that point. And the special magistrate at the hearing, those of you who saw it, specifically told the respondent, "All you've done by delaying what you've done
to get the permit is basically cut your time short." That's what he basically said. He said, "You had a year when we started this. Now you're now you basically you've lost two months off of that by your delays." >> All right. And and if if from now until
what' you say, March of 2027? >> March of 2027. If we switched it up to a code enforcement board, it would it would carry the same weight if >> yes, the order would stay in place and it would just be it just be a different um reviewer of it, but the order would still be enforceable.
But we can bring back the analysis that we've done in the past uh for the board versus a special management. >> Yeah. And the one thing that I will give credit to to what deputy mayor is saying is the citizens especially I know ones that we appoint. We obviously would put people who truly care about this
community. Um they'll put that first. They'll say look this is something that's very important to us. It's our community. We want to see we do want to see some changes in our downtown. So that's where I will definitely uh I do see some of the benefits and I I think with that we would still
have uh Dan you would still be present during that. >> Oh yeah we would still my office we would still prosecute the cases or p and assist staff. The only difference is there'd be seven folks sitting up here as opposed to one. >> Okay.
>> Seven citizens. >> Seven citizens. Yes. >> Citizens. Yep. All right, city attorney. Anything else to add on that? >> No, sir. Thank you. >> All right. I am very glad we are moving forward with the Scloud hotel as we have
been and um city manager. I'll continue the discussion about code enforcement. Um on a more positive note, I just want to congratulate our code enforcement division. They received the international accreditation society's um
accreditation. So we are the first city in Florida with both the building department and code enforcement to be accredited to have both accredited. So want to congratulate there's a lot of work that went into that. So um good work to our team. Also we have a
agreement with Main Street where they're supposed to do minimum number of events per year. Um they're doing a new event this year that I I just wanted to bring to the council's attention. We are going, we're working with them. They're doing a Stars and Stripes summer
seafood boil at the beach, which will be at St. Cloud Lakefront on Sunday, July 5th. This is an extension of the America 250 celebration. It will be on July 5th from 5 to 8:00 p.m. And that they'll have activities with musical
entertainment, family-friendly beach games, recreational activities, and a seafood boiled dinner service available. So, um, they're joining other main streets throughout the state of Florida to do a large event on July 5th to
continue the celebration. >> What is the cost to the taxpayers? >> $315 application fee, $75 event, trailer, table, and chairs, $90 trash
can fee for a total of $480. But we haven't had the DRC meeting yet. So fees can change after the DRC meeting as as things are worked out. We're not able to let them use our stage because July 4th is the day before. We also don't have staff available because all of our staff
is is going to be there on July 4th for the >> tired city. That's a big event. >> So we're not able to assist them as much as we would with other events. >> Okay. >> Okay. And >> you just letting us know? >> Yes. >> Thank you. And then one last item. I
just want to give thanks to State Representative Stark and State Senator Arrington. The budget that was approved recently has two projects for St. Cloud. Hopkins Park Community Center has $500,000 and the safety alert system,
which is the lightning detectors for the city parks, has $116,270. So everyone pray, cross your fingers, cross your toes that the governor doesn't veto us again. >> And that's all I have. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you very much. And next we have Council Member Paul. So, yes. Um, last week I went out um I know we get concerns from residents all the time and um I'm sure we all received the email from John Dorsy and um so I took
the opportunity of going out to see um his concern and there's a lot of litter that he picks up and does a great job with keeping you know that area up to par. And so I'm only bringing this up
because I want people to know that we do listen to the concerns from the residents. I know we see it all the time where they don't listen to us. And for any elected official that can take the opportunity to go out with residents says a lie. And so therefore, I wanted
to just bring that up and share that. And on my time that I went out there, our public works director um Kevin went was there as well too to see the concern as well too. So I just wanted to bring that up. Secondly, um I attended the
institute elected municipal um for elected officials and that was amazing. I do want to say thank you um for that opportunity of attending. It was basically meeting with a lot of elected officials over the state of Florida
learning sitting in classes for two days straight. um long hours but well worth it to learn everything to be a good leader in our community. So um want to say thank you for that opportunity of going and lastly I wanted to um bring up
uh some misinformation that was shared um regarding theund the proposed 150 apartments downtown relating to me as me bringing them to um being section 8. Um I want to say that is untrue. um they're
not section 8. It's a difference between affordable housing and section 8. They're not the same. So, I wanted to make that clear. And it's misinformation like this that get pit out um that cause divisions in our community. And you know, I just encourage people to if you
want to know the sources, reach out to one of us. The recap is put out on social media after our meetings on what is actually happening in our these meetings. So, I just want to put that out there and clear up that information and I'm done for the night. >> Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Council Member
Urban. >> Can I just say ditto what she said? [laughter] >> That's all. I don't have anything. Happy 4th of July. >> All right. Thank you, Council Member Fletcher. >> I have nothing at this time. Thank you, Mayor. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert, >> thank you all for showing up and thank
you for staying. Uh, all the council people will walk with you back here. We'll show you our JPA map. We'll we'll show you what we do. We We got some sodas and some waters. Uh we'll answer any questions because you participating today means a lot to me. You being here
means a lot. You bet. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. I have a few items. Um as y'all know, we had our US senator here last Friday. Uh she had a press briefing at Matter Academy over off of uh Norah
Tyson Road and so her staff called me last week uh actually yeah beginning of the week I guess it was and uh they said yeah well inviting me to to the event and they were they didn't have a venue and they had said well we were thinking about Valencia Ocula Camp and I said no
come to St. Cloud and uh so it ended up in St. cloud and so um it was amazing event and I was actually honored to introduce her and I just in my office I received a letter from Senator Moody. Dear Mayor Robertson did a great job at the press conference. Thank you for joining me. I look forward to connecting
again soon. Best Ashley Moody. So how cool is it? We're getting our US senators here. Um of course we got a great US Senator Rick Scott as well. I don't care what if they're Republican or Democrat those are our US senators. if we can get Washington DC to pay attention to us, you know, we always
welcome them to our community. And I do want to give a shout out to our police department, uh Doug Derky's team over there with our our our deputy chief, Denise Roberts, Garrett Stockdale, that whole group did an amazing job. Um they they ensured her safety throughout the
city during the the the whole day she was here. So, thank you, sir. Thank you for everything you guys do, your men and women over there. Um, next up, I've, you know, the elephant in the room, obviously, the property tax reform. It we're not, you know, obviously we can't
take a side one way or the other. And it's going to end up on the ballot no matter what people vote for. Everybody has the right to pick whichever way they want to go. Right? I'm not one to tell anybody how to vote. our staff puts out facts
and to to be 100% transparent. They put the information out there. And I've seen they've gotten beaten up on this. And that's it's it's not fair when the staff puts out facts just to show the citizens, here's where your money's being spent. And like I said, I'm not
going to take an aside either way where I I say, "Hey, citizens, you got to, you know, vote this way or this is going to happen." This city will not use scare tactics. We're going to provide information. I believe our budget's on the website, correct? >> Yes. >> Any citizen in the city of St. Cloud can go on our website and review the budget.
>> Any citizen. So to say we're misusing taxpayer dollars this way, that way, you know, it it Yeah, it's the top of of conversation right now. But but rest assured, this city, this council, and our staff, we are going to be able to to work
through this no matter which way the citizens vote. All right? This is not a difficult thing. We're gonna figure it out. There's going to be challenges, but we're going to figure it out. So, we don't want people to be afraid. We also don't want people to, you know, show up
at and and think that that uh this city and this city council and this staff is not doing their job already because I know they are. We've got an amazing police force. We've got an amazing fire department. All of our departments are great. Um that's all I'll say. I really
think the the um one of the conversations was the previous year's fund balance, right? So, how many years have we has the city been relying on that city manager? >> So, the city has been using prior year fund
balance to balance the budget um for 31 years. So since 2021, in 2021, we were using $9.7 million to do that. And with this city council, we have been working hard to reduce the reliance on that
while still adding public safety positions every year, adding new fire stations, all the stuff that we're doing. And we brought it down this past year to or I guess the current budget year, we brought it down to 4.8. um and we were proposing to reduce it
already again in this proposed next year's budget. Now based on the current um discussions, we've gone back as staff and said, "Okay, so we're going to present for the first time in 31 years a bal a budget, a balanced budget, not using any prior year fund balance to
balance the budget." So we're right now going through and redoing everything so that we can bring you the leanest budget and the first one balanced in 31 years. Amazing. Thank you very much. Um, and if you haven't been paying attention over the past year and a half or so, this
council, this council is focused on commercial development. This council is focused on economic development. That is what we believe will be the future of our city and operating and because we have to have these sources of revenue. We do not
I can tell you over the past year it's been challenging because there are many people um that have encouraged us to um implement this fee or that fee to to kind of make ends meet. And we're trying to do everything possible to not do that. Unfortunately, I don't know what
tomorrow brings, especially with the tax reform. If that if that passes, we're going to have to see what that looks like. But right now, we know we're going to be able to to work it out. we will find a solution. And um and that's all I'm going to say on that
topic. So um I'm I I really think I've got the I know our staff can can find a way to get through all this. Uh one other thing I want to bring up. Um this morning I got a really cool email from Texas Roadhouse. Y'all know that just opened up the other day a few weeks back
and I haven't responded to them yet, but it was it was from their Give me one second here. I'm sure they wouldn't be mind me calling them out. Uh, I wanted to reach out because I greatly admire the city of St. Cloud's commitment to honoring veterans and preserving its proud identity as the friendly soldier
city. St. Cloud's dedication to those who served aligns closely with the values we strive to uphold at Texas Roadhouse. I'm not going to read the whole thing um other than it says Texas Roadhouse, we we our biggest priority is being fully invested in the communities we serve. who believe in success comes
from building genuine relationships, showing up for our neighbors, supporting local organizations, being actively involved wherever we can make a positive impact. Um, I've had the opportunity to attend St. Cloud's Fourth of July celebration, Soldier City Market, the monthly markets. I mean, these are this
is from their local store marketer from Texas Roadhouse, the the the one that just opened up. And so everything we've been doing here, they've taken they've taken notice. And so one of the things supporting veterans is especially important to us and I would
be honored to help support any initiatives that serve those who have ser sacrificed for our country. Um my goal is simple. I want Texas Roadhouse to become deeply connected with city of St. Cloud. I'd love to attend support participate in as many city events as possible. That's what community is all
about folks and that's what we're trying to bring here is get these these organizations. We've had Wind Dixie corporate step up to the table with our police department on some events. You know, we've have um Orlando Health. I mean, heck, they kicked in $5,000 for for the the the St. Cloud Veterans
Council initiatives. And now we've got another large corporation. That's what we're trying to do here, folks. We want to bring these organizations in because if we have to cut back next year on some of our special events. We want these corporations to chip in and sponsor
these to so that we can still provide these services and these events to the citizens here in the city of St. Cloud. So, thank you Texas Roadhouse. I will respond back, but it was this morning, so I've I'm just still catching up on emails. With that being said, we have uh
since I've been the mayor, we have consistently talked about um Soldier City, you know, we with our Soldier City Market, we it's now rebranded with Soldier City Sundays, our St. Cloud Veterans Council, and really steer them
back towards our true identity as a soldier city. I want to now go ahead and have a stop date from using this center place slogan and going back to either soldier city or the friendly soldier city and and make it official. Um not
and not where it will cost us money but essentially what's the stop date of using the the the the letterhead or you know whatever the the physical documents that say center place for this or that and going back to Soldier City. Um, and
I want to go ahead and just do a stop date of July 3rd and that way kickoff Independence Day July 4th is Soldier City. What are y'all's thoughts on that? >> I mean, >> deputy mayor likes it. Uh, do you like Soldier City or the friendly Soldier City? What are
>> Soldier City? Anytime you add more uh more things, we're Soldier City, period. >> That's it. >> We've been Soldier City since what 1911, Mayor. How long we've been Soldier City? >> Yeah. And they've changed it. Obviously, we're celebrating small town life and
this. >> I get it. This is Soldier City and and that's who we are and we should wear it proud. >> Time to make it official again. >> I agree. Cuz if you ride past on um I believe it's Progress Lane, they have a road called Soldier City Way, I believe
it is. So, it's a eyecatcher and I love it. So, >> okay. City manager, how can we transition into that? So I I I believe what you're saying is just the slogan under the city logo. So the city logo is is fine to stay. It's just >> Yeah. For for now because we don't
obviously we're not trying to spend any money on this. You know you know that to me I believe that just on our say on our website on our you know when we go in anything else in the future maybe it's on people's shirts on the staff but from here on out the marketing is Soldier
City and that that is our slogan. So, so we would have to potentially work with a graphic design team to anywhere where it's at to remove it. >> Um, I I I believe we've already ordered wayfinding signs that I believe it's already on them. Um, so
I guess I would need direction on that. >> Let's try and stop that. >> You mean the center place? I didn't read I don't remember seeing center place on any of those. >> I I thought it was I could be wrong. Um, >> I remember seeing the St. cloud, >> but not >> we can look at it, but this is move forward from July 3rd on all of our
materials that way. And I I agree with you, mayor. No cost involved. >> But why? That makes me feel proud. I'm so proud to say we're Soldier City. >> And when the time comes, Deputy Mayor has already volunteered to climb the water tower and repaint Soldier City.
>> I'm going You guys help me repaint the water tower. The ladder is a little I'm going to have it strapped up. Where's the Where's the fire chief here? because we got to make sure it's safe. >> Police chief will do it with us and we will >> Monday. I'm ask for Monday. >> Can we discuss it Monday? Um just so
that we can go back and see if it's on the way finding signs. We can reach out >> on the way finding fines. Yes. But right now from here on out I think we still have the stop date of of July 3rd for anything else other than and we'll discuss that as well. So but do we you need a motion for from us Dan? Do we
need a vote on something like that? >> You're not changing the logo for the city. So, no, you're not establishing it as the logo. You're basically not at this point. >> I think it was adopted by resolution >> with the language in there. I >> I believe so. >> Okay. Then we will
>> we'll go we I'll let you know Monday. We'll go back to see. >> So, we do >> just so you guys know, we have another meeting Monday if you guys like 17 hours and it'll be cool. >> Mayor, if we can do this, we actually are two meetings on Monday. >> Oh, I'm sorry. You have a special
meeting and then you have a workshop, >> right? So, if we if we feel like a formal motion has to be taken, we'll add it to the special meeting thing and just give me give us time to look at how the original one was adopted. >> All right. And I believe there's strength in that for our city where when
I went up to DC last year, um that was on my own dime. I wasn't as as the as the mayor, but I went up there and I believe you were at the we were at the Museum of the Bible. You had a meeting there, but I had a meeting with Congressman Sodto for lunch and we discussed this that you know there are
federal dollars if if if we >> if we move forward with with the branding of our city as soldier city and focus on our veterans, he they he real sees some real financial gains opportunities there. So, and the what we've been doing at Veterans Park, what
we, you know, what we constantly talk about here is folks on our veterans and our active military, you know, and I got to to obviously when I introduced Senator Moody, you know, I got to talk about, you know, here we are. She was visiting the Soldier City uh and when we were in our um in the classroom
>> table, round table, >> we actually got to sit at uh I think it was second grade they had a round table >> and I I never felt more I I felt like uh uh Did you ever see Elf? I was sitting in in there. >> I was going to say Billy Madison. [laughter]
>> I was sitting at a second grade table and I'm 63 250. >> Yeah. All right. And with that, I have nothing else to add other than I think I won't see y'all until July. Well, I guess I'll see you Monday, but everybody out there, have a happy 4th of July. We'll see you
out there. But hold on, Deputy Mayor. We're not quite done. >> I want to show my friends. >> I want to show my friends the back room. There's some food there, mayor. >> This is the most interesting part, the information section. All right, we Friday, June 12th, 2026, we have Veterans Council meeting 1 p.m.
here in City Hall. Monday, June 15, 2026, special city council meeting 2:30 p.m. City Hall council chambers. Monday, June 15, 2026, city council workshop. Immediately following the special council meeting, city hall, council chambers. Friday, June 19th, 2026, city
offices will be closed in observance of Junth. Friday, July 3rd, 2026, city offices closed in observance of 4th of July. And Friday, July 10th, 2026, Veterans Council meeting, 100 p.m. City Hall.
Thursday, oh, we got one more. July 16th, 2026, city council meeting, 6:30, City Hall, Council Chambers. Uh, we also have the community redevelopment agency minutes February 5th, 2026. Community
redevelopment agency minutes, April 2nd, 2026. Economic development advisory committee minutes April 7th, 2026. Reports warrant list number eight, fiscal year 26. With that, this meeting is journ.
>> Thank you, mayor. All right. Can we