progression and it's overall increasing our expansion. While I understand you all have Lake Nona now as a neighbor as well as the tech development in CMI, what I understand more is that you
already have a thriving community. I come in to listen to your residents, your elected officials, and your organizational leadership to better understand where are we going and how
are we going to be intentional with ensuring that we are recruiting businesses that align with that vision and mission. On board with me is Mr. Mark Meisman, Senior, our principal. He has done over 20,000
hours of training with leaders. He understands the enduser, the seauite executives and the organizations that we would be looking to talk to. Anisha Stevie Stringer, as we lovingly
call her, has over 10 years, 12 years actually, sorry, experience in tech, both with established tech companies as well as startups over in California. She understands what they're looking for when it comes to a community and really
what workforce they need. Again, at the heart of this community is its residents and we have to prepare residents and even the small businesses for the new flow, the new the new organizations coming in. From there, we have Mr. Alex
Pierce. He's worked with organizations such as Amazon Logistics and Target, Big Box Retail. Now, all of us know as you have new people coming in and you grow, you're going to need the retail, but
logistics will be everything. as you are looking to connect yourselves with the hubs that are around you. He has done over 17 billion dollars in profit for Amazon, creating programs
that not only increase their processes but also increase their productivity for their team and the overall output for their customers. Finally, we have Dr. Jack. He is our data guru. He will help he will assist
me as we go out into the community to better understand not only what your residents need, what your visitors desire, but what business requires for new development. With this team put together, we will not
only be able to come with our roster, our rolodex per se, but we'll also be able to sit and empathize with the individuals we are speaking to. Whether it's the mom and pop tea shop on downtown, whether it's the government
officials who are doing the best they can to show up for each and every one of their citizens and their constituents. are if it's the business, the big businesses that you are looking to draw into your community. Infrastructure
and information will guide our principles. I will also like to give just a minute for Mr. Mark Nissman to speak as well. >> Hello, gentlemen. Thank you for your time today. Um, this lovely lady has ushered in I have nothing to say about
me. I'm going to speak about this young lady. She has ushered in uh everything from the small business um you know bar club that you could think about in downtown Orlando all the way through to Lexus andor Target that is on the
outskirts of downtown. You name it, she's been in it. She sat around it. And this is what I bring to the table. I bring smart, intellectual people with integrity who are here to get the job done. And I thank you for your time. We're open for questions.
All right. Uh, questions from council. Council member Urban. >> Thank you. Um, love what you said about um, understanding and and changing the culture here in St. Cloud. I think
that's very important. Um, uh, I love that you understand the the the region well, the our neighbors, Lake Nota, Neo City. So that kind of goes along with the question that I I have and that I've been asking all the applicants today is um St. Cloud's very imbalanced I believe with with when it
comes to uh we're a very heavy residential community um not so heavy on the commercial end. Um why do you think that is and how can we um address that deficiency here in St. Cloud and compete with our neighbors uh in Lake Nona who
who seem to have all the industry and everything up there. Bring that here to St. Cloud. Absolutely. It goes back to the bare principle of live, work, play. Many of your residents right now um do are commuters. They live here. They love
the environment from what I've seen. I've read a few uh articles on St. Cloud in regards to the size of the lots and of course the lake. That is the jewel it seems of your residents. But many of them leave to go work in Orlando, Lake
Nona. some in CMI and where you work at is where you spend a bulk of your time and your money as far as commercial uses. Once they start to live, work and play here and really see this as their full community, meaning you have more
small business hubs that will attract more of not only your residents but into citizens outside of St. Clout. You've seen it with Orlando, with Thornton Park, um, Avalon Park in our East Orlando, as well as even Winter Park
with Park Avenue. When you create a space that families can come, a space where citizens feel connected and can actually park their car, go get a cup of coffee, walk around, do some shopping for some of us who like to shop, but
also just sit down and enjoy the beauty of our Florida environment. Then you will allow they will start to make the money will come to you and that's when the businesses come. >> Absolutely. Thank you. So, let's see. We
have a a former UCF quarterback here. So, go Knights. >> Uh, Deputy Mayor Gilbert. >> Uh, once thank you all for coming uh today to to make this presentation. Uh, and I I second the u uh councilman's
comment about changing the culture in in St. Cloud. We have a deficiency of um heads and beds versus working inside versus working outside the city. I think we're are we at 0.1 or one we're we're really below the standard of of two two
household members working within this certain area. So we do need to create jobs for that less travel time as you see. We have Neo City uh South coming in and Councilman Fletcher may mention that more. We've got some other things on the
19 uh past the turnpike which is a huge development and right now it's hovering around 30 projects that we have going on with the city. We can't hire 30 project managers. It's just not feasible because of the eb and flow of of those projects
and uh the timets in which they take. Do you guys take over projects that we have as project planners and and for those projects that we've already uh decided on but we haven't executed yet and be our lead on that? Would that be something in your capability?
>> Yes. So I have been a lead project planner on multiple developments such as Creative Village uh portions of Randall Park. Um so I'm very wellst and some of them I came in uh at the tail end of it. Luckily for Creative Village, I got to come in at the forefront. Um, so yes, I
am able to sustain and help implement those. The main thing that I do always as coming into any project of that nature is just to have at least weekly meetings with the leadership to understand where the project is and where permitting is. >> Yeah. and we would partner up and be be
truly become a partnership, you know, private public partnership because like I said, we're lucky to have that many projects going on, but to manage all those projects efficiently for our citizens is is not as easy task as one you'll think. But, uh, we appreciate the presentation. We appreciate you all
coming here. I'm going to yield back to you, Mayor. >> All right. Uh, Council Member Fletcher. >> Good afternoon. Thank you so much uh for for speaking with us today. Um, you know, like like the other council members um have said, we club's in a
unique um position right now to really capture some of the economic growth um that's taking place across the county and the region. Um as Deputy Mayor um Gilbert had alluded to, my questions um are going to, you know, it's around Neo
City. So with the hundreds of millions of dollars that um have been circulating and captured by Osa County for their investment in Neo City, how do you think your your partnerships and and relationships
and the the proximity of us to to Neo City? How do you how do you see that as a something that we could could capture um for economic growth here in St. Cloud? >> Absolutely. I see that as a great opportunity two ways to first help to
train your workforce. What do I mean by that? I mean as they are bringing in these projects, you will need individuals to work them and either they come from outside of the communities around them are you train the individuals within. I see it as a great opportunity to partner with such
uh institutions as Valencia College, maybe even the University of Central Florida. I know at one point they had some satellite campuses but to really partner with them and bring in your community and train them on what needs what the needs are of these organizations from there. I also believe
that complimentary services or complimentary businesses within the area will really connect it to that development. So you talk about tech, what can we do in association with tech? Well, we have power grids, which some people are terrified of, but they can be
beneficial, and there is federal regulations at this point that would keep residents from having a power bill that increases to astronomical levels. But I do see having those conversations early, sitting down and speaking with them and figuring out what makes us that
partner, what makes us a good neighbor. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> All right. Yeah. and thank you all very much for coming here today. Um my question I ask of everybody coming here today is uh what does the first six months look like? Um say you were
selected for the economic development position. What does that look like? >> Absolutely. So the first six months looks like really understanding and diagnosing what we call the gaps, but of course there are opportunities. It's going out in the community, understanding where we are today, where
our small businesses stand because we do of course want to help them and ensure that they sustain throughout this process. It's meeting with our governmental leadership to understand what their constituents are saying and what are the major concerns. But from there on the opposite side, which Mr.
Nissman and some of my other colleagues will work on. It's going out into the marketplace and understanding what are their desires and what are they looking for and what would I consider to be a smaller community. Meaning we all love the metropolitan areas but what are you looking for when you are going outside
but at the bare basic is to ensure that this community isn't seen as much of more of a suburban sprawl but a actual true gem that it is. Yeah, it sure is. Yeah, I've been here for 44 years.
>> So, >> we love it. The lake, everything. Oh, >> yeah. Very special place. Um, thank you very much. I appreciate you you being here today and giving us all this information. So, for me, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions, council? >> I'm I'm good. >> We're good.
>> Y Okay, we're all set. Thank you. >> Thank you. You have a great afternoon as well. Thank you. All right, our next group won't be presenting until 1:15, so we'll go ahead and take a small break here. Okay. Thank you.
>> Now I know how to get into >> Kobe. I tried to pull it up, but back to order. And next up we have Redevelopment Management Associates. >> Good afternoon. It's been a long day for you. Uh I'm Lynn Dinger. I'm director of
economic development for RMA. That stands for Redevelopment Management Associates. I'm going to try to talk with you a little bit today about why you should choose RMA. We understand St. cloud. We've been in different situations doing
work for you for the past five years. But what makes us different? We're a real economic development consulting company. We know how to bring jobs and business to the city of St. Cloud. I'll talk with you about our
approach, how we implement projects, and also proof of our success. Now, our focus is simple. It's helping cities grow jobs, expand their t tax base, and create vibrant economic districts.
Again, we're a proven partner in St. Cloud. We're Florida based with Central Florida offices. We have billions of dollars created for our client cities and we have 15 50 years combined leadership experience. As
I said, I'm Lind Delinger, director of economic development. We have a team of professional experts assembled to help St. Cloud move to the next step. I'd like to introduce my colleague so you can understand a little bit about the
question you had about how are we going to network and use our contacts to reach St. Cloud out to not just the region but the state and the national stage. So let me introduce my colleague Bill Dinger.
Good afternoon. Uh, as mentioned by Lyn, I'm Bill Dinger and I look forward to working with the city of St. Cloud and leading the real estate efforts for this RFQ. And having been a broker in Central Florida for over two decades, uh, I'll
bring the resources necessary to support new businesses when they're identifying and evaluating new sites that'll help increase the tax base for the city of St. Cloud. I'm an active CCIM and that's a professional commercial
real estate organization. It actually stands for certified commercial investment member and it's a uh it's a group of over 20,000 professionals around the country and around the world. And it's not just commercial brokerage
but it includes banking professionals, legal uh legal professionals, etc. I'm presently on the board of directors at the Florida CCIM Central District. I'm a past president of the Florida Central
District. Uh then uh vice president of operations for the state uh for the state operation of the Florida CCIM. So it's with those relationships that RMA can assist the city of St. cloud with site planning and optimization for
existing businesses and for uh optimizing new sites. We look forward to looking forward to uh helping with the land use infrastructure working on zoning issues. It's an area that we have
experience with with as a company and in the real estate uh area particularly. That's my interest. >> Thanks, Bill. So, we're knowledgeable. We've done CRA board training for you. We wrote your
strategic finance and implementation plan. We are ongoing consulting services for the city and we provide real estate advisory services. We can be on the ground running as soon as you let us out of the barn.
So, again, we have ICSC, which is the International Council of Shopping Centers. I've been on the board for that for the past 10 years. We're part of FRA, Florida Redevelopment Association. And again, Bill's very active with the uh commercial real estate brokerage. And
the reason we bring this out is that many consulting firms only address one component of economic development. And economic development is not restaurants. That's what you get as a result of economic development. If you don't
understand that, then you not probably understand economic development. Retail and restaurants are the result of bringing jobs into your city or having jobs in proximity. So, our comprehensive approach is data driven. We understand
how economic development actually happens. We are your safest, most capable choice. And we're the only firm that integrates economic development, redevelopment, and real estate with implementation,
which is the reason that economic development strategic plans do not succeed is that implementation. It's those plans that are sitting on the shelf. So from your um Hopkins Park, your downtown 3P uh P3 that is being
worked on with the um mixeduse project. That's so exciting. The the parking garage, we are big advocates for that. We worked on that with you. So we know about what what's happening in the downtown. And that is going to have people when they're looking to come to
St. Cloud say, "Well, we'd really like to be a part of this city. Look what it has to offer. And when I'm comparing you to Neo City, I'm gonna say that Neo City is great and I'm glad that they've got all that that industry going there, but I don't want to live there. I want to
live in St. Cloud. It's authentic. It's real. We understand St. Cloud. With your population having almost doubled in the past 20 years, that's that's just a big strain on infrastructure. It shows where
you've come as a city, but it's going to continue. The fact that you were named one of the top small cities to start a new business, that's wonderful for entrepreneurs and for health care services. The health care industry here
is very strong. I mentioned about that datadriven strategy. They've got to be defensible. We've got to be able to be transparent under rigorous examination. So when I say that we're data driven, we use all
the tools that our competitors do. They don't use any tools that we don't use. We all have the same industry um advantages in terms of finding out what the data is. But what we do is we ensure our decisions are based on data
and not assumptions. And they're based on objective data and real market conditions. So I can look at a report that was done and it's based on the census. Well, we all know what's happened since the census was taken. So we have to have updated numbers. We have
to know where to get those numbers and we know how how to interpret those numbers. Um we are very um big on trade shows and on collateral material. We have an entire marketing and branding department that puts forth materials
that you'll be proud of and that are professional and tailored for your audience. Sumpre County just hired us to do their economic development marketing. That says something. Um, you know, and it's it's a similar situation as as St.
Cloud is is doing. It's it's services on an asneeded basis. So, we gave you a few examples in our proposal about some of the cities that we had represented. I wanted to explain to you that we chose Pin Brook Pines. It's a long way from
here. It's in South Florida, but it's a similar community to St. Cloud. It is a dual income family community inland. And what we did there was we talked to them and explained to them how to redevelop
their mall. And that's undergoing changes right now. We were able to establish a gateway welcoming center in terms of a walkway, pedestrian walkway to go over the entrance of Pinroke Pines. It was a six-lane divided
highway. You talk about connectivity. They had none. But that walkway gave people the ability to go back and forth. And that's what Pimrock Pines needed. We did some work over in Sarasota. You think that's a similar city? Believe it or not, you have a strong a larger
population than Sarasota does. They wanted a market analysis and visioning. And we went in and told Sarasota that with the um money that was in their downtown with retired executives, they needed to go after a Fortune 500
headquarters. They all kind of shook their heads and said, "Well, you sure?" I said, "Well, I think so, and I think we can put together a program that will tell them how to come." And we did, and they announced it last month. New Fortune 500 to locate in Sarasota. Their
population, again, is less than yours. St. Cloud loses 70% of their workforce every day. They go outside the city to work. Ideal in numbers, 70%.
We looked at the city of Deltona and I didn't put Deltona in our submitt because it was a big industrial project. You don't have 400 acres sitting around here for me to go bring in uh have Bill bring in Amazon and and and do a 24
million improvement to the city. But you do have that workforce that's leaving. So that's an asset. We turn that asset into this is what I can show businesses that are looking to relocate into St. Cloud.
In closing, the Knight Foundation publishes um a lot of stro a lot of um issues that talk about strategies for successful cities and they talk about striving to be
resilient in design. They talk about enhancing and activating your public spaces. They talk about prioritizing walking in your downtown areas. And they talk about striving to maintain your authenticity. This is a national
publication. And the last thing that they do is they talk about striving to create a place where people are focused on holistic and well-being physically, mentally, emotionally, and socially. And
that's the bottom line for RMA. That's where we see we can help the city of St. Cloud. And we ask for your business. We'd love working for you. >> All right. Thank you, ma'am. Uh, any questions from council?
Council member, >> thank you for your presentation. Um, you kind of hit the nail on the head of of where I'm going where 70% of our residents have to travel outside of the city to go to work every day. To me, that's a huge problem. We we're we're
very imbalanced when it comes to residential versus uh jobs here in our city. Why do you think that is? And how can we uh balance that deficiency to to bring more jobs into St. Cloud? >> Well, you're doing it you're doing it
with this mixeduse project in your downtown because now people have a place to live. Today's businesses want to make sure that every level of their employee sector can have a place to live. and
apartment living, condo living is what businesses look for, not a suburban area where people can only find a a single family home. So, I think that's one of the biggest things that you're doing is is your mixeduse development in the downtown area.
>> Thank you, >> Deputy Mayor. >> Thank you both for for coming. uh great things that um Florida redevelopment national council on shopping centers we we know all that uh I own a trade show
company we produce over 300 events a year in trade shows so when you say you like them I like them too and it's a good way marketing it's good face to face and you're also in industries that uh you're specific for what industry you're in so it's easier than going door to door to find out that many people
with those same interests so I appreciate your uh diligence in in those areas. Now, we have the MAC. We had we just got approved of flu um on the other side of Turnpike. Huge development going on. Uh we'd like to see a lot of stuff
in our MAC uh medical centers because let's face it, we're growing. Uh every time I go to a specialty, I'm usually outside of St. Cloud. We're going to bring some of that into St. Cloud for for different areas. What other cities are you currently
working with that are asking you to do the same thing St. Cloud's doing? And um what other population? So if there is none, that's great. If there are some, that's great. I just need to know.
I have that answer for you. Um we're working in Lakeland. Lakeland has a population I think of about 86,000 people >> and um they did something very unusual.
They have one, two, three, three CRAAS and they needed to update their CRA master plans and they hired three different companies for each master plan update. We got the biggest one which is 464 acres which has a a a very big
industrial business park as part of it. So Lakeland is one that we're working on right now. I mentioned Sumpter County. We were just hired to do the uh economic development marketing for Sumpre County. >> And um in
Sarasota, we're on under continuing uh services consulting for them as well. >> Okay. So that thank you for that answer. And I didn't know Lakeland was that big. When my grandparents retired, they moved to uh Lakeland in the summers and back up north in the winters. It was kind of
a uh retirement community, but it sounds like it's grown quite a bit in those in those years. I'm kind of pleased that you're not doing everything for these other counties and cities because I'd rather you do them for us and use us as your A1 number one suggestion for
economic development. And I have a ranch in Sar County which I think the villages are taking over. You know, they've they've they were 20 miles away from us. Now they're like two miles away from us. So So that that area is growing. Um I like your presentation. I like that
you're um have ongoing um relationships with St. Cloud. What are you currently working on with St. Cloud right now? You said it earlier. I was trying to write down. Did you you did some plans for us and >> we did we did an implementation plan for the city uh finance and implementation
plan and our principal Kim Breemeister did CRA training for your board. Um we also have a continuing services contract under your planning department as well and um I believe we're still under real
estate advisory services for the city. >> Okay. Well, thank you very much for the great presentation. Thank you for your knowledge of the city of St. Cloud Cloud. I yield back to you, Mayor. >> All right. Thank you, uh, Council Member Fletcher. >> Um, thank you so much for presenting
today and I appreciate the the ongoing relationship that we have, um, with your firm, um, to accomplish, you know, the the goals and priorities of the city. Um, most of my questions today have have revolved around Neo City, but I think you you you touched on that. So, I
wanted to kind of turn it to something different. So, as a as we go down this path and we we make a decision on who we're going to choose um to do this work, what are some some things that us as a city or we as a city can do better
to make sure that we give you as a consultant um everything that you need to be successful in implementing you know what we're asking. Strong leadership is the only thing that makes economic development successful. I
mentioned Deltona. If that had not had the strong leadership from the city, I just looked at the most recent economic impact as published by the state and that logistics park
has a regional economic activity exceeding $1.39 billion. without the city stepping in and fasttracking the project and understanding the importance when RMA
went to the city and said if you want this this is what you're going to have to do and they did it. So it's that vision and leadership. >> What years was was that Deltona >> sir? >> What years of Deltona that you did the
work for Dela? just completed the the last um buildings were completed there in 2024. >> Okay. >> So, but you >> and we started in we I'm sorry, we started in 2017 was the year that we got the first big
bump where we got the industrial property under contract. It was a group out of Australia >> and they were the wealthiest uh land uh wealthiest people in Australia. They had no desire to show share the sell the property and the city had talked to them
a lot and we said let us go talk to them. They said oh no they they're not interested. I said we're going to go talk to them and we went and talked to them. Maybe it was the right time. Maybe we were just lucky. Maybe we're persistent and we know who to contact and how to contact them. And we
contacted the Amazon developer. Not Amazon. You got to talk to their developer and find out where are you looking? What do you want? Yeah, that was back when We Webster Barnaby was on there on the the council and Chris Bolley was their director of
community uh community development. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I know. They they did a lot of things back then. >> Got that movie theater in there. >> That's right. I'd actually uh I worked uh with city of
Deltona back in 2010 and uh under a federal program helped them purchase about 35 homes back then. Um so I I've asked I'm sorry, Council Member Fletcher, do you have anything else to add?
>> That's all. Mayor, thank you. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. I asked the same question to everybody today. What does the first six months look like? um say that you were selected for this position. >> Well, I think Bill's going to want to update all the real estate data that we
already have, but again, that's going to be an easy lift because we already have the data. So, we're looking up at updating that and we'll run our reports and get that most updated data. But we're gonna have to sit down with you all and find out where are your goals
today? Where where are we going to move forward next? So, how do we take that mixeduse development and take it to the business that's looking to come here? Take it to the healthc care facility that's looking for a location to service Neo City. We're going to use Neo City as
an asset and we're going to springboard businesses to come into St. Cloud. >> Okay. Um, and y'all know we've got some uh a large project that we're hoping to to break ground on here probably hopefully by the end of the year uh downtown, >> right?
>> Um, you know about the the P3 project? >> That's what I was referring to when I said the mixed juice project. >> Yeah. Um, so so tell me about any real estate development experience like actually doing developments. >> I was the director of real estate for
Wine Garden which is a national reach for five years, right? and uh handled the west side of Florida. Bill has been a real estate broker for the past 20 years in the state of Florida doing only commercial deals. So, we're both very
active and understand real estate development. >> Okay. All right. But, but you've never actually just gone like done the project yourself like >> when I was with Wine Garden. Yes, absolutely. is we we go out, we find the property, we run the performance, we get
the tenants or the residents, whatever type of project it is, and then get our construction numbers, build it, and now we have to tenant it, and then we they Wine Garden was a um for sale project, so they would sell the property. So
obviously we had to uh hit those performant numbers. >> Okay. All right, that's my questions. So, any other questions from council? Thank you very much for taking the time to be here today. >> Thank you so much.
>> Y Thank you all very much. >> Second, folks. All right, our next one's at uh 1:45, so we'll go ahead and take a 5minute break. Next up, we have Sitecp Consulting LLC. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon. >> We ask for apologies. We have some
technical issues with um Well, >> that's okay. Take your time. Set your stuff down and >> Yeah. Yeah. Um maybe next time we're not going to buy Teslas, right? They don't have a spare tire. Council member Fletcher has a Tesla. >> I didn't know they didn't have spare
tires. >> They don't have spare tires. >> I didn't know that. >> Really? >> What do you do when you have a flat tire? >> Call Tesla. >> I never knew that. >> Sean, what do you do when you have a flat tire? >> Does he fly in with a drone to drop one off? >> Council member Fletcher.
>> What did you say? >> I said, "What happens when you have a flat tire on a Tesla? What do you do?" >> Call Triple A. >> Okay. They don't put hide a donut anywhere. >> A question. Um, is there a way to share a screen or there's no necessity of it?
>> No, we're just working. >> Yeah, just >> that's totally fine. Totally fine. >> So, that's um great. So, we're ready to start. >> Yes sir. >> Yes. >> So, um thank you very much for this opportunity. Cyro Consulting uh made a
presentation very brief but it was uh with a lot of intention that uh we have been supporting your side of the table as well from the honest rep perspective and you don't want a case study right you want something that we can break down digest and support some evidence
factual evidence during the process and uh we're going to hop in into this for the city of St. Cloud economical development we are our plan is to attach this as a program to help the economical development itself. We approach uh manage the pipeline physibility
partnership coordination reporting the opportunity of actions with accountability from our perspective. Um in the second page which is very important that's how we put one of the piece uh one of the puzzles together.
It's our team. So we started from uh all our team members have worked in global firms uh including myself. So we're going to start from uh right to left which is Maria Laa has been involved over uh three uh $30 million in transaction from the HR perspective. uh
Mario has been leading he has been our legal counsel which this is very important because this is not as a supplement of the city itself is mostly as an engagement and interaction from a development perspective from economical development from an uh a construction
since he has been over $370 million since race actions right >> you guys aren't going to bill us by the hour on that one are you >> well we we went there we get discussed already. >> No, no, absolutely. Right. But I mean obviously this is that's part two of the
conversation, right? U then Rio he has been uh working in his background from Scansa DPR construction top leader firms uh and then he moved into the owners rep side with us. Um, right now he just finished a $230 million development,
which is great, but I mean all of these factors, they're going to put it together at the end, right? Uh, Stephano, uh, he helped with the county, uh, city of Tampa, redevelopment of the city, Hannah Avenue, uh, uh, DEI's department as well. So, um, that was a
$130 million project. And then comes to myself, right? Uh my background has been in the civil engineer department uh building hospitals with Robinson Morton transition to DPR to the big names as a city bank headquarters building up that one and then transition to the CBRE
which is the largest uh uh um I'm sorry the largest firm in the world for uh you know transactions right so with that being said we encompass all of these as a cyro consulting and our backgrounds are going to build an story that is not
who we have in the cell phone all the CEOs in the work that we have done in the past is mostly what we have represent and what our wrestlness can speak for us as a combined effort. Um then uh from the economical development approach the third page which is the
second page mark in your uh in your document is how we track the pipeline. I would track the physibility right because u from a feasibility perspective right there is the economical development but also what the city has
the capacity what is the permitting time what is the utility from the perspective that some if we are going to have somebody coming into place in here and invest in the city how we can translate this into a welldeveloped outreach package
because is how we present the and how we move forward as as a combined entity, right? Um the program control which is going to be the third page. This is how we keep moving forward because we have an
structure and how we're going to tackle this structure as well. Um from the scheduling, from physibilities, dual support, from reporting and stakeholders alignment which in this state is going to be the city of St. cloud as it hold
align all the ideas and how we're going to process into it. And um finally, which is going to be the last page is how we track all the steps of the outreach that we are planning to do, right? how we're bringing business into
town, how we are going to provide solutions, what is going to be the um the acceptances of it if it works with city of San Cloud perspective and how we can enhance it from our end to it. And
uh finally since uh we're going to go into the the question portion of it uh cycle consulting is a SB DWE which we are familiar we have worked on large scale projects and if by any chance the
city has the um discussion about upgrading and augmentating the team we are ready for it but I mean the team that is being presented is team that is readily to use for any deployment of activities for the
economical department. >> Thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. All right. And do we have any questions from council? >> Council member Urban. >> Thank you. So, St. Cloud uh struggles with um an imbalance between jobs and
residents. The majority of our residents travel outside of the city to work um every day. And so why do you think that is and how would you um how would you propose that the city help fix that deficiency? >> Yeah, absolutely. So uh in the economic
development part uh there's two um um aspects right there is the uh business development which is going to be enhance the development in the area which is already structured and number two is going to be the economical how we are rich. Right? So going back to your
question and it is how we can minimize that impact, how we can reduce the driving time of the community and have a better community itself. It's uh bringing more jobs into town, right? But I mean how we're going to do that, right? Uh we
did a research a little bit of the healthcare. We can upgrade uh or propose incentivize the health care system, right? And those healthc care system can bring more jobs into the community itself. Uh but how we do that? Well, uh
we speak development, we speak construction, we used to build those hospitals. We can prepare uh prepare and present a better plan for these departments and also from the industrial side. Uh I believe 20 minutes from here there is
there is a construction of one million square feet of that. But I mean what about if we uh can incentivize the JLS the CBRES the Kushman wavefields to start doing an approach of a a land list
for long terms in these areas. So those are things that we could project as an outreach. >> Thank you. Sorry if I was too long. Thank you >> deputy mayor. Don't be sorry about being too long. We need explanation. So uh please feel
free. this is uh you spent your time coming here and and and presenting a great uh presentation with with uh a a good presentation book. So please uh any questions you have of us, anything, please help us. And we certainly appreciate you being here today. >> Uh we just got approved our flu um from
the state. So we have a uh we already have that done and and we we we've approved a MAC for for our medical centers because we need that. Uh we have about 70 some thousand people in the city right now. I think there's more, but the census says 71,000 and I think
within the next 10 years if if the growth pattern stays the same, I don't have a crystal ball, we're going to be somewhere in 100,000 range. And cities differ from 0 to 50,000 and 100,000 people above for grants and things such as that. >> Uh what other cities, and it's not a
trick question, so if there is a name, that's great. If there are some, that's great. What other cities are you working with currently that are you doing the same thing that the city of St. Cloud has asked you to do? Uh well this this will be a variable response because of our main focus which has been
economically development but all also focus on the owners rep side uh we have done for example uh pineellis county I was uh let's put it this way as a partnership neck to neck with the directors of development and construction right so one of the things from the CIP department is how we
enhance the uh CIP volume of the construction to augmentate it into the uh development portion. So back to your question, one is Penllis County, two has been on the path recently passed two years ago uh city of Tampa and uh we are
having conversations right now as we speak where uh with Scambia County itself. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it wasn't a trick question. I just we if we were to select you the the council uh would we'd want to be your number one >> capacity? Yes, that's a great question.
So capacity uh that was one of the reasons of uh sorry if I didn't answer the question. So from capacity perspective uh what we are allocating right now obviously there's a transition period because part of building relationship is speaking truthfully right so right now we what we are
allocating for for me is 50%. So I will dive right into city of the cloud and then my other staff members are at 75 but that doesn't mean that we don't have people that we can allocate and do a transition. So from your perspective from N uh from NTP notice to proceed um
within 30 days I can be deployed and within 60 days I can I can develop a plan that show to the team members how we can transition somebody full-time. >> Thank and thank you and I yield back to you mayor. Thank you.
>> All right and council member Fletcher >> um thank you for presenting today and I we you know I appreciate you taking the time. Um the other council members alluded to it and I apologize if you've already um mentioned this. It broke up there for just a second. Um we have, you
know, the approved MAC or or the medical arts campus um over off of 17th Street. Um what can we do better to attract um specialty medical offices um and and provide those services and jobs um to our residents?
>> Great question. uh one first is going to be uh the incentivite uh I I'm going to be really careful with this but it's going to be uh maybe a tax approach into it second one is going to be proper reallocation of utility what we have expected in the past is going to be the
capacity of utility per location right uh I don't know if you're familiar with uh advent health the freestanding ers right those are uh between 18 to 24 beds used to build those uh again um the one of the things is going to be the
capacity to towards those areas. So from your a factual response into that it will be all right so hey listen a big medical company A big company B and C we have done an assessment and a study that
which doesn't need to be into the deeps but I mean it it needs to go is like we are projecting this capacity in the utilities itself we are projecting this locations for the for the coming years uh what about if we start uh integrating
and partnership with medical facility for specialties what we can offer as a city and also what they can offer they back to us. So it is mostly assessments and how we project those assessment to A B CDE E
players. >> Very good. Thank you. No no further questions mayor. >> Thank you council member. Um my question I've asked everybody what what does the first six months look like >> if you're selected? >> Yeah absolutely. So uh first six month
um I believe so that it can be seen from multiple angles right. So from what we try to develop on this end, it will be a heavy assessment of the needs which is going to be um what the city are the yes
and the nos what the city perception of the good clients medium clients and what they want to attract. Second one is going to be uh partner up with facility management, utility management, know what are the capacities in the center areas and also do our approach to the
big uh corporations for example again don't want to lie but I mean uh there's big players who manage the leases right u again I used to work there I used to review the contracts I used to uh um
look at the 10-year lease 20-y year lease of those contracts and how we incentivate it. So must reach out to those uh companies that we have something more to offer for engagement. So the next six months there will be an assessment.
>> Okay. What about jobs? >> Yes. >> What's what's your focus on jobs here? Job creation. >> Correct. But Joe, >> not hiring, you know, retail um um brokers, you know, you know, tenant, you
know, uh landlord representatives. That's not what really what we're looking for. >> Absolutely. >> So, um >> what what type of industry are you looking that that you have any relationships or >> correct >> beyond the six months? So, say you you do an analysis, what are you going to do with that information beyond se six months?
>> Yeah. So is is the outreach to the brokers itself because the brokers bring the client and that have seen it uh from day to day to day one all the way until now they bring the clients to here and they uh do the job creation itself and I have seen it representing myself I
represented Geico North America >> building 189,000 ft of TI spaces so that originated from a broker reaching out to me and saying hey listen we're looking for space we have this spaces. So PWC
the these companies everything originate from the spaces they want to lease or they want to buy and develop jobs at the end of the day. >> Okay. >> All right. Uh council any other questions or comments to the applicant?
>> All right with that we appreciate your time here and do you have anything else to that you want to share with us? >> Absolutely. uh uh also cycle consulting uh is doesn't work just in the economical development phase as you mentioned that that's 100% a priority
but also uh we like city of uh uh St. and cloud to look us as a partner uh since we have done mass development itself as a owners rep. So we bring more of the technical background in how to engage from the different perspective itself for the community creating jobs.
>> Okay. So very cool. Thank you. I appreciate appreciate you coming here today. >> Y my apologies for the team members that didn't show up. >> Oh that's fine. You did all right. You gave us all the information we needed. Perfect. Thank you. >> The review process will be closed doors.
Uh we're going to continue to discuss this right now and uh we'll kind of see what direction we're going to go here in the next few minutes. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> We may not select anybody today, but at least we we're going to we'll wrap up our our workshop here. So >> city attorney.
>> Yeah. Thank you, mayor. So the city, we did notice this as I mentioned at the council meeting the other night as a special meeting. So you are in position to take action uh if you wish to and you've reached that point. We would think from a staff perspective we would at least like the city to council to
give us some direction on either uh reducing the number of applicants so we can discuss further or if you believe you can have discussion where you want to authorize the staff to negotiate and bring back an agreement with one particular consultant. Uh then we'd also
um we would look for that kind of direction and that kind of action. this this afternoon. >> All right, guys. Um, what are your thoughts? Did you did you uh hear enough today from all the applicants? Do you want to take the information? You want to take a few days
and go over everything again or do you have any recommendations? >> I'd like to speak about a few things, mayor, if I if we may, since I have four of us here. >> Absolutely. uh because I I may get I may get something out of this different than
you or uh Councilman or Councilman Fletcher. Uh but I what I did is I tried to do a rating system uh for me for what I I rated and uh and then that's how I handled that. I don't know how you guys
handled that but I know that uh I could make a decision today. I just know that all the folks have been very good at what they're doing. Uh, some are different. I don't know if some fit into my mind's eye of what we should do and different from your mind's eye,
but I I'm going to talk about a couple companies right now. You got redevelopment management, you got Gorman York, and you you got uh uh GI Consultants, and you got Site Corp. Um, and I I know Gorman York to me brought
in some very valuable uh assets for managing for plan managing because we want somebody that comes in from A to Z that gets the space, books the space, builds the space, and it's kind of clean. I don't think this is a project that our city can handle with city staff
in the management park. I think it needs to be outside firm. I'm glad we did this. Um, I redevelopment management associates. I thought uh uh came in with some um um projects already under consideration and
already working. The knowledge of the city was um I thought very well uh of the things that we have doing and uh they re to me they went to us and said listen we've looked on your website we know where your land is. You know other other companies go well we'll have to find out. You know that to me is the
homework thing. they did their homework and they came in with those areas that they know we have are areas to develop today. We don't have to wait on it. It can be done today. So when somebody comes in and does their homework about what areas we have available, that's good with the and with the knowledge. Um
GI GI came in with a a good consultant team and they had very wellestablished consultants in different areas. So uh I like their corporate tree not necessarily, you know, um the projects that they have done, but
I like their corporate tree. Um so I I those are just to start this conversation. This has nothing to do with anything, but those are the things that I took off the plate when when I was uh taking my notes. Uh so with that, uh mayor, if any of the council want
that, we can continue on if you're good with that. >> Sure. We'll start kicking around ideas. Uh council member Urban. >> Yeah. Um, so just first and foremost, I don't think we can go wrong with anybody who was interviewed today. I think these are all very uh qualified firms, very
impressive uh resumes and backgrounds. Um, sort of going along the lines of what deputy mayor said, I was I was very impressed with the the Gorman York uh presentation. I I thought uh they bring a lot uh can bring a lot to the table
for for St. cloud and and and like you said the a toz process managing everything that's exactly what I was looking for in this RFQ and I I was really impressed with them um RMA I know we've worked with them a lot in and and CRA projects and they helped us with our
PVP project out there uh that's going to be coming up so I think their prior knowledge of St. cloud will al would also bring a lot of uh benefits to the city. Um so that that's kind of where my my top two right now. I
I like I said everybody was very impressive. >> Council member Fletcher, >> I guess I you know I'm going to give the same comments. I think um all of the firms that came in today um all could add value. Um I would like to take a
little bit of a different approach this time. Um I I was I was very impressed with Gorman New York. Um I believe they have they can offer the same package that we are going to get or are getting with um the parking garage development. Um so today
I would be I would be willing to uh to make a decision. Keep my comments short. Thank you, mayor. >> So, your your suggestion um your top pick was Gman Newark. >> That is correct. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. >> All right. Um now, just like the rest of
y'all said, I think every presentation um they all have a wealth of experience. I think everybody comes from similar but different backgrounds on this stuff. And economic development is a tricky thing. or else we'd, you know, everybody would would be knocking out of the ballpark,
every city. And you know, having that background, I looked at Gman York and I I really felt uh just looking at at their experience and what they had. Um, I didn't pass judgment on them. You
know, I didn't make my decision just reading a piece of paper, but I was hoping they would come in with that that one thing. If you've seen City Slickers, you know what Curly says there's, you know, the secret to life's that one thing. Um, but you know, it economic development is a very unique animal. And
um, as you know, those people involved in that are somewhat different, you know. Um, so that's what Gman York brought. They got they brought something that just it not only did it check off all the boxes but like I said when he he
kept referencing to them as as sponsors when these these these site sponsors would come to the table that spoke a lot to me because he knows the difference between a developer and in a company or an industry want to relocate in here or
um it doesn't matter who it is who is that that individual or entity and so that's why he refers to them as sponsors I he spoke the same language as me, you know. I I I we just clicked on that. So, that was and I'm glad that they they clicked with you guys as well on that.
I've heard some positive comments. Um like I said, we've had a number of great ones here and uh with six of them coming before us. Um I would agree with Council Member Fletcher that that Gman and York actually came out on top with me.
>> Those are my comments. >> So, Since everybody's so we can't take direction, we can't take action right now to instruct staff to negotiate with GMA York and bring back an agreement for final approval at a city council meeting
uh to work as you know um and frankly I'm glad I sat in the presentation too because when especi especially in response to the mayor's question about what does the first six months look everybody else said well we need to get
a better handle on what almost said we need to get a better handle on what the scope of services is going to be. Right. So, um I I can assure you staff if you do direct that we negotiate a contract, we're going to work as quickly as possible. However, I would just say we're going to have to do a little bit of development work on the scope before
to include in that contract. So, and I think that's obviously a vital part and that's something that the council is going to have to take a really close look at. This is less going to be about the in my view about the contractual terms that you typically see in agreements and more from your perspective I think about do we have the right scope do we have the right
milestones do we have the right performance levels that we want to do so so if if that's the case and the council's would we we'd like since this is a special meeting if the number one pick to negotiate with would be Gilman York we'd like a motion that says that
approval of course if we can't negotiate a contract and we go back to, you know, one of the other presenters. >> Okay. And this is a meeting, right? Not just >> Yes, special meeting. Yes. >> Okay. >> That's why we did it that way. >> That's why we did it like that. So we
can get so you wouldn't have to come back for this step. So the next step, the next time you would see this, if you are to take that action would be in a final contract form for you to take action on. >> Yes, sir. >> Do we have a motion? I would motion to
negotiate with Gorman York uh bring a final contract to the city council. >> All right, we have a motion from council member Urban. >> Second. >> Second from council member Fletcher. Will the clerk please call the role? >> Council member Paul. >> Council member Urban >> I. >> Deputy Mayor Gilbert.
>> I. >> Council member Fletcher >> I. >> Mayor Robertson >> I. >> Motion carries 4. >> All right. And anyone have anything else to add today? Uh, city uh, sorry uh, city attorney. Anything? >> No, sir.
>> Nope. All right. Scott, uh, deputy city manager. >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. Um, going to pass these out to everyone here. When we were in Tallahassee, uh, Representative Stark had, uh,
grabbed the city manager and myself to let us know about a potential grant that exists out there for a trolley. Um what you have in front of you is
some information on the grant itself as well as a proposed map uh that myself, the city manager, and our public works director came up with um that would hit many of the major spots uh here within
the city. We don't have all the information on the grant yet. Uh in 45 minutes I'll be meeting with Representative Stark. We'll be talking about it and then we'll be meeting with DOT uh next week. Uh next Wednesday, city
manager and myself will be meeting with DOT on this along with the assistant city manager. Um a couple of things that we do know right now is that this grant would cover approximately 50% of the operational cost for a trolley system.
Uh we know that Representative Stark has identified a potential trolley uh costing approximately $41,000. There may be some additional work that needs to be done on that. We did take a look at what
operational costs would be uh for the first year including the purchase of the trolley. some be somewhere uh in the ballpark between 210 to $245,000 and the second year would be somewhere 160,000 to 195,000.
If there are shelters that are part of this, it would be somewhere in the ballpark of 52,000 uh per shelter. Again, I want to stress we don't have all the information about this grant yet, but we did want to bring this forward just to bring it in front of you. There are some concerns when we've
taken a look at the grant and what we've seen so far. We're not sure that we are able to apply for this, we may not be eligible. Um, some of the language in there specifically says any public agency
providing public transportation service with eligible products, projects included in the adopted transit development plan or transportation disadvantaged service plan. So, we don't have one of those plans. That's generally through
links. Um, but Representative Stark still thinks that there may be some opportunities for us to qualify and apply for it. The other thing is that if we are to apply for this, the funding would not be received until fiscal year 28. And then there's also a concern as
reading through some of their contract language, and again, this was from an older version of their grant. So, not 100% sure if this would still be in there, but one of the things that was a little concerning that we would need some clarification on is, and I'll just
read this here under application requirements, um, uh, just lost the page here. Service development projects are subject to project specific duration which may not exceed 3 years. If determined to be
successful after this initial duration, service development projects must be continued by the grant recipient without additional public transit service development program funds. Failure to continue a successful service development project after the funding period may impact future discretionary
funding decisions. Uh which would mean that if we were to end the pro project, >> projects may suffer. Yeah, >> correct. So again, we don't have all of the information. We're not sure what the limits are as far as where the trolley would go to. Does it have to be
downtown? Does it have to go throughout the city? Uh how tied in it would be with links. We're hoping to get that information. We'll get some with Representative Stark this afternoon and then next week when we meet with DOT. Uh there may be a
short turnaround time on this grant, but like I said, wanted to bring this in front of you now so that uh if there's anything that comes up in the future, uh you'd at least have some knowledge of what we're talking about here. >> All right. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate
you. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Do you you don't want any direction now? You're just letting us know you're going to have a meeting. >> That's correct. Yes, sir. >> All right. Uh, Deputy Mayor. >> Yeah. I would just like to uh make sure we put out letters and phone calls and
thank you to all the people that participated in this process. They put time and effort and money into it. And we're going to have a lot of projects down the line. So, I'd like to uh have them be reconsidered for future projects. And I'd really like a thank you letter from from this council because the folks that went through that
that process and hung out with us. But as we're growing, as you know, we're going to need to do more of this as the future goes. And as for the transportation disadvantage, let's get with that and metrop plan. See if they can write a letter for that. I yield back to you, mayor. >> Yes, sir. Yeah. Um, I'll just add really
quick with with what you just said that all of these applicants today, even though they weren't selected for this program, that doesn't mean they don't have something to bring to the table. Um, they may have relationships, those contacts that uh will be beneficial to the city. So, yeah, I agree. It's it's
uh definitely worth uh keeping that building those relationships in the future with these folks. Uh Council Member Urban, >> me. Thank you. >> Council member Fletcher. >> Um I just wanted to add one thing. Um obviously thank you to everybody. I
agree with sending them the letter. That's a lot of work. I did want to say, you know, it's it really is an honor to work with with everybody on council. You know, we've we've all spent a lot of time in the community. We've seen economic development projects come through. We've seen the Stevens plantation. We've seen this, we've seen
that. Um I think we're definitely at a pivotal moment and I think um we're really doing some great things when it comes to this. So, thank you to everybody's leadership. It's an honor to work with you guys. >> I would agree, council member. I think this was a a great process that we all
worked through quickly, you know, with uh beginning with 15 applications, I believe, and uh narrowed to nine and right to one. I mean, we kind of we all kind of know what we're looking for and what this city's been lacking and and you know what what the needs are. So, I
I agree with you, council member. Um, I want to add thank you to the whole procurement staff and of course economic development for uh take going through this this ride and this exercise with us. It's I know it's not easy dealing with us sometimes and our um sometimes
you know it takes a while for us to make a decision or you know to move forward on something and this was one that I think maybe the past six months you know we've kind of had this position available or open and I I think we were just trying to figure out what we were looking for and I think we we narrowed
that down and honed in on what we are looking for. So thank you Jamie and of course um Leslie and that whole group there and Solange of course for holding down the economic development for it. So, um, with that, I have nothing else to add other than St. Patty's weekend
was great. They had the 5K, uh, parks and wreck knocked out of the ballpark and, uh, uh, as deputy mayor said, I'm sorry, the deputy city manager informed us that the 5K was more successful than any of the parade stuff. So, I know people in the community, they didn't
really want they were missing the parade, but this 5K when I made it downtown about 8:00, uh, it was packed with these these runners and they were so excited to be down there and and, you know, dressed in green and they want to participate. You know, when there's a
parade, standing on the sidelines watching the parade, how much, you know, you can only have so much fun watching a parade. Um, we probably have more fun during those parades than anybody. And uh so no, I thought that was a really cool idea to have the 5K. Uh great
bands. I missed the St. Baldrick shaving my head. You know, I told Andrew I'd be there. I went to another event but showed up later. But I know they had many uh um victims of the the head shaving thing. >> Volunteers. I'm sorry. We'll call them
volunteers. Um no, I thought that's so cool. So Andrew Sullivan, shout out to you for putting that on. That was so cool, man. Uh, with that I've got nothing else to add and I'll say this meeting is adjourned.