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If you have questions on these items, please see the city staff in the back of the chambers. Thank you for participating in your local government. And I'll call this meeting to order. And I'd like to now ask if everybody if we can have a moment of
silence, please. All please stand for the pledge of allegiance. United States of America. Madam Clerk, please call the Mayor Robertson here. Deputy Mayor Fletcher here. All right, an agenda update. Uh, city
manager, do you have any updates? None of this. All right. And there are no presentations here tonight. And so, next section of the meeting is consent agenda. We have no consent items as well. Citizens forum. Any person who
desires to comment on any item not on this agenda is provided this opportunity to address the council. Each person is requested to complete a sign-in form to be provided by the presiding officer prior to or as soon as practical thereafter the person addressed the council. Would anyone in the audience
like to speak on anything other than what's this evening? Started Our next section will be public hearings. Clerk, please read ordinance number 2025-4344 and 45 into the record.
2025-43 approximately plus 28.6 identified as Nova Project 25-000013 located north of Johnson Memorial Highway within the joint planning interal agreement EPA in
accordance with voluntary annexation provisions chapter 171.0 Florida statutes final public hearing number 2025-44 an ordinance of the city council of the city of St. Cloud Florida assigning a future land use designation approximately plus - 20.6 6 acres
identified as Nova and 192 PUD project CPA25-0000005 located north of East Bonsa road from LDR low residential community center county to C commercial city providing for lending of the official future land use map following the funding recommendation availability
copies on effective date final public hearing for ordinance number 2025-45 an ordinance of the city council Florida land development of the city of CP specifically changing the zoning designation plus acres identified as
NOVA and 192 project 25 direction 00001 located north of Boston highway west of road from CG commercial general to C commercial general PD planned development county to
PDP development city providing for official future companies of land commission recommendations proof of location copies on file date. Good evening. Melissa D, director of community development. These cases
before you tonight for the voluntary annexation comp plan amendment and PUD planned unit development zoning map amendment for the project known as NOVA and 192. This request meets the statutory
requirements and is consistent with our joint planning agreement with Oyola County as it is continuous to city limits and it is reasonably compact. The existing county future land use is community center with a commercial
general commercial restricted and planned development county zoning designation. The proposed um land use is commercial um for the city and the proposed zoning is planned here
city. I think it's recently compact. It will have no adverse um impacts on city facilities and is compatible with the surrounding area. Here's a graphic representation of
the county and city's future land use designations. Here's a graphic representation of the zoning showing the current and city zoning designations. Honorable 4 March 31st, 2025 staff recommended approval.
Planning Commission also recommended approval and we are requesting that city council approve Ordinance number 2025-43. Ordinance number 2025-44 and ordinance number 25-45 for
the voluntary annexation comprehensive plan amendment and z amendment for the project known as Nova. The applicant is here and staff is available if you have any questions for us. Thank you. Would the like to speak
on this item? Curtis Arrington, CM Arington and Associate. Glad to answer any questions you have. All right, we have first we have Mindy Sham. Is that sorry? I'm so
sorry. This is for item number one or item number two you want to speak on? I I believe it was for 44 or 43 or 44. 44. The uh which this one for the 28.6 acres. Yes, ma'am. Okay. What What is
Oyola County going to provide that St. Cloud didn't provide previous? This is for the commercial project. Is that what what you want to speak on? I want to speak on the the taxes on the annexation. Yeah. Okay.
Well, the the the one that you put on here was 43- I'm sorry, I wasn't sure if it was 43 or 44. It it's neither one of those. I think what you're you speak about was item number four, right? Okay. That's not come up yet. I was just
reading the one that you had put on here. So, all right. Would anyone in the audience like to speak on this item? All right. Can I entertain a motion? Motion to approve. Do we need to do them individually, Dan? Yes, sir. All right. This is for ordinance number
2025-43. Second. We have a motion from council member Urban. Second from council member Paul. Madam clerk, please call the role. Deputy mayor. Council member Paul. Hi. Council member Urban. Hi. Council member Gilbert. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries. 5-0.
And can I get a motion for item number 125-44? Motion to approve. Motion approved. Second from council member Gilbert. Madam clerk, please call the role. Council member Paul. Hi. Council member Urban. Hi. Council member Gilbert. Hi. Deputy Mayor Fletcher. Hi,
Mayor Robertson. Hi. Motion carries 5 Z. And can I get a motion for ordinance from 2025-45? Motion to approve. Motion to approve from Deputy Mayor Fletcher. Second. Second. Council member Paul. Madam Clerk, please call. Council member. Hi.
Council member Gilbert. Deputy Mayor Fletcher. Hi. Council member Paul. Hi. Mayor Robertson. Hopefully, please next read the next item. Final public hearing for ordinance number 2025-28. An ordinance of the city council of city of St. Florida to annex into the city of St. Hob approximately
plus - 997.034 034 acres identified as encourages annexations zones 1 2 and 4. Project annex 25003 located south of Neptune Road west of Cross Prairie Parkway, Hickory Tree Road and Milty Road and east of the turnpike between Clayw Road and CM Park
Road within a joint planning area interlocal agreement GPA in accordance with the voluntary annexation provisions of chapter 171.044 statutes of community development. This case before you tonight is for the voluntary annexation for the project
known as encumbrance annexation zones 1, two, and four. This request meets the statutory requirements and is consistent with our joint planning agreement with OciOla County as it is contiguous to city limits and is reasonably
compact. These voluntary annexations are being processed through um incumbrances. So at the time um the city provides water and/or sewer services, the property owner signs a notice of incumbrance, which is um a recorded
covenant that follows the land. And um if a property is receiving water and or sewer services and is outside of city but in the joint planning area of unincorporated Oola County, um the
notice of incumbrance is signed in order to receive services. Um, this covenant allows the city to voluntarily annex the property once it is contiguous to city limits and the incumbrance again runs with the land even the property is sold
or transferred. The notice of encumbrance remains valid. staff held two community openhouse meetings on Wednesday, March 5th and Thursday, March 6th of 2025 to meet with
any interested uh property owners um to um answer any questions and um give them information on what an incumbrance annexation means. We um addressed what the benefits
of annexation are at that community. We um went through all of these items. Um we talked about how um there is faster emergency response um with St. Cloud Police and fire departments. Um we also
talked about our accredited public safety. Our police department is accredited by the Commission for Florida Law Enforcement Accreditation and our 911 dispatch center holds triple accreditations. Top tier emergency
response. We have um improved disaster recovery. So we have faster cleanup, debris removal and recovery efforts after hurricanes and tropical storms. We have an accredited building department. Uh the St. Cloud building department is recognized by the
international accreditation service for its high standards and our code compliance division is currently working towards accreditation. We have a proven safety record. We are ranked the safest city in Florida and 37th safest city in the
nation based on FBI crime statistics. We have a businessfriendly environment. We are ranked ranked 44th among 50 best small towns in the US for starting a business by wallet hub. We have convenient local government
services. So those access to services by state offices um rather than having to travel to Casselli, we have top tier parks and recreation. So St. Cloud is recognized as a playful city USA and
true city USA offering excellent parks, trails, and recreational programs. Um we offer lower park and recreation fee. Um St. uh residents receive reduced rates for facility rentals, programs and
activities. And we have simplified solid waste. Our solid waste services are included in a simple monthly bill rather than a lump sum on property taxes um saving an estimated $67 per household
per year. Um which becomes effective October 1st and there's no county EMS tax. So St. cloud residents save approximately $245 per year by not paying the county's EMS
tax. And at the meeting, we presented these numbers based on the average taxable value of homes in St. Cloud. The net increase is approximately $795 per year, which equates to approximately $66 per month and will
become effective on the November 125 property tax statements. Some of the concerns that were um that were heard at the planning commission meeting included the following.
And there were questions about setbacks, whether or not the city would honor the county's setbacks through the permitting process. And um it was explained that if a um property is in the process of
pulling a building permit right now um we look at them on a case-by case basis and depending on how far along they are um we work out they will complete the process in the county or if it would immediate immediately come to the city.
Um, in most cases, if it's like your accessory structures and things of that nature, we would bring it into the city for permitting because the city will honor the county's setbacks until the city um either assigns a future land
user zoning that um is different from what they what they have in the county. But um until that happens, if it happens, we will honor the the county's um setbacks. Um, regarding animals, the
city back in February of 2023 adopted the county's animal ordinance and we updated our agricultural zoning to allow the same animals that are allowed in the county for um, consistency regarding the transition of
services. Um, solid waste will um will um start as of October 1st. Um and then the um sorry regarding taxes that will begin on
November in November of 2025. Um to hose and other transition of services any new developments will have to connect to the city water and sewer which they already have to. Um I won't talk much about um the transition of fire um services
because at the end we can ask the fire chief to to speak on that. Um postal services um they were concerned that that transition it would affect their mail. As of right now we we are not changing anyone's address. We are um
working with the postal service in the future to see if we can change all of the addresses within the JPA to a St. cloud address so that there's no confusion. If you live in St. Cloud, you don't have a CMI address and um there there was concern um on the
next item there was concerns about their homeowners insurance increasing. Um we the city participate in the CRS program earns 25% on flood insurance which is
consistent with the county And then for um the concern about property value decreasing, there's no evidence of that. Um but of course um we directed people to contact their property property appraisal office for
that. And then the other concern was the amount of acreage that we continue to exit the city. We explained that there are um there is a limit. We have a joint planning area boundary with OciOla
County. So once we annex all the land within that boundary, that would be our limitation as of right now as the JPA stands right now. Excuse me. Okay. So honor before March 31st, 2025,
uh staff did recommend approval. Um when this item went to planning commission, it was recommended for approval by Snider, uh seconded by Alexander. The um vote did um fail
because three of the members voted. So the motion to approve um did not um did not stand. And I think Dan can probably explain that a little bit better, but um legal advised the planning commission that the motion to
approve indicated um I'm sorry, the failure of the motion to approve indicated a de facto denial recommendation. And uh staff is requesting that city council approve this item. Approve ordinance number
2025- 2025-28. And uh at this time I will ask Jason our fire chief to come speak on the services that been providing. Good afternoon or evening mayor council.
Um as you little bit of background as you know the city has joint planning agreement with fire res county as part of that some of the statistical information is going to be a little bit off recognizing that in the JPA providing official response what's
called delta echo calls which are the emergency level calls. So, we pulled a little bit of statistical information from the county um particularly in the Twin Lakes area. That's where the highest call volume was gave us the best information which you'll see on your map
in the Twin Lakes area. So, County Fire Rescue last year had approximately 100 calls for service in that area as a total of which city of St. Cloud ran 50 of those calls. So, statistically speaking, we ran half
those calls. Now recognizing those are the emergency response calls. Those are the calls that they're supposed to call us for right out. Our units are over a mile closer than their closest. Just put that in perspective. Depending on the speed limit and time of a minute to two minutes that can
make for the Gary Drive area, which is off of Hickory Tree Road, there's 12 calls for service that we responded to at that area. Kings Crest area, 10 calls for service. Excuse me. Melissa, can you pull the map up while we're going through these? Yeah, thank
you. Um, globally in almost every case where we're looking at these annexations, the city of St. Cloud has a fire station closer currently or we'll have a station closer in the next year or so. That's particularly the case on Neptune Road where we'll be building fire station 35 which we'll be coming
before you next council for approval to build. Um, as for the Twin Lakes area, that's the one I was referencing earlier. We're a mile closer. the neighborhood there off of 192. Um it's almost right across the street from our fire station. Um so in all these cases,
our stations are closer. When you're talking about a structure fire response, you're talking about three stations totaling 18 to anywhere from 18 to 20 people responding um based off our chief officer load and we have our truck in service. Um in almost every case, all
three of our stations are closer than the three closest county stations to these areas. So our effective firefighting response force would be there faster. As far as an insurance lower ISO rating, um they may see some savings there. Globally though, we're providing
service in these areas. We're required to through the JPA and since we're one can assume by simple statistics that we're running at least 50% of that call load, we're in that neighborhood. It only makes sense. We're closer. We're
faster. We have highly trained paramedics, EMTs out there on the road every day. And we're already questions. Council member Gilbert, just just one question. I'm not a fire person
or anything. What does one minute to two minute response time mean um in saving lives? Time is tissue. For a heart attack, it could mean the life. For a stroke, it could mean the life. Simply stated, a fire doubles in size every
minute. With these fuel, sometimes it's even faster than that because everything in your house is plastic. I go to my grandmother's house when I was a kid. You know, everything was cotton batting and you know, half of it was covered with plastic. Didn't want you to mess up the cotton. But, you know, everything was natural wood products. You go into
your houses now, everything's plastic. Everything's styrofoam. The fires burn faster. They hotter. Quicker response time is the key to saving properties. That's what we offer. All right. Thank you. And first up we have Mindy Shaham.
Yes, ma'am. Phil Devivo. My concern is that when we made decisions to buy our home next, we knew we were going to be retiring and we factored in. And it's kind of disappointing that
obviously these agreements remain with the builder uh to hook up to you know the the water and the sewer and you know in the future then obviously that's going to mean tax increases at some point in time. None of that was shared with us. Okay. So we're making decisions
on whether it's a wise financial move based on what we think and anticipating that yes taxes are going to increase marginally. They always do. But this is kind of a bigger bump and I just don't understand why if the agreement was made with the
builder to annex in the future why he wasn't required to disclose that information so we'd have accurate information making our decision whether this is going to be you know a good thing financially once we're no longer working. My wife and I are both retired now. We've all been hit throughout the
whole state of major homeowners insurance increases making it tougher and tougher. is another slap in the face that all of a sudden this has been known for years but it was withheld and I don't understand the fairness in that and why they weren't obligated. Maybe
there's no legal requirement but in all honesty it's like bargaining in in bad faith and and uh you know enough is enough. We're getting to the point now that, you know, between pandemic, inflation, everything else. It's just it's it's tough to, you know, make me
groceries, everything. Everybody's suffering, not just senior citizens, but it's tough for us because I can't work more hours if I'm retired. I'm 73. How long I'm going to go back to work just cover higher tax bills. So, I just don't understand why if this known thing
that could happen in the future, why the building board's not required. And I went through my paperwork to see if I missed it somehow. I didn't see. So you can answer that question for me and then I do have one question. Go ahead and go ahead and ask
a question. So is it strictly flood insurance savings or is it for regular homeowners insurance? city man fire chief also spoke to that um when our
insurance ISO rating is lower in the city too the county has so you call your insurance provider tell them and what our ISO rating is ISO
rating so I can't guarantee you that your insurance rating So they should because they're going to look at where your where a hydra is in relation to your property which you're in twin if you're l you should those standards to right
well that's to be seen I've over the years been told many times you get to this point your insurance is going to die never happens the other thing I'll say is some of the information provided on here is very misleading uh representation used
in this example of the $351,900,000 u the solid waste and fire rescue uh course will be removed. So the impression is with this amount that the increase will be about
$795. But the fact of the matter is when I was at one of the early meetings, I took a picture and somebody mentioned earlier that we will be build on our water bill now roughly now 500 bucks a year. So by representing
an $800 increase on on this property value, it's really not accurate. It's misleading because we still got to factor this in monthly. So that you know now that's $1,300. I'm conf Where is that? No, just hand over the This is a picture to put that up on the
screen so I can see what the everybody can looking at. Sir, can you come back to the podium, please? Yes, sir. And those are Toho water authorities, sir. That's Toho water, not
I understand. But you tax bill. The water doesn't No, sir. the water doesn't change. He's referencing the storm water fee and the SLA. So, so yes. So, currently he's paying in bulk on his on his county
taxes paying monthly. The city does have a overall lower rate than the county does. Um, but yes, we'll see it month versus So, I I think that's good feedback and the next time we do these
Yeah. I mean because it gives the impression that only an $800 increase but it's really not only you still got to factor in that 500 bucks. So this to me is misleading massaging the numbers and it's really not true. It's it's bad we had
faith we'll make a that was our first time that form we'll update that for the next Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Yes sir. Thank you. Uh, William Fischer. William Thomas Fischer. That's WTF. 2373 Kingrestrs
Road. Um, couple of my questions. Um, so this is how you increase your tax role. King's Crest was established in the 80s and that basically makes it over 40 years old. St. Cloud has not contributed one
dime to the King's Crest subdivision, but now you want us to pay for your taxes for parks. I'm totally against that. you know, um when I was here for the planning
commission, um somebody had asked about the incumbrance and I don't recall which gentleman they said that it was um was in there. It was virtually a thousand pages, but I saw it. It was in there. What I'd like to see
is where is that? I'd like to see it. I think everybody else here would would like to see that also. Where is it? Does anybody have that city manager? I agenda. I'd like to see where it's
Oh, you're referencing. So, at the top of the piece of paper numbering, do you have that available that I could you could look at? encumbrance working. I don't think so.
I'd like to see where city should be gentle a lot of pages in the documents that are submitted because annexation just we can it's sometimes difficult to match them up because they're not we
have to we can go through the documents in the document. They are I'm assuming he's referring to his subdivision. Uh but they are in the packet that has been submitted to Yes, sir. Okay. on the court's website. Well, it's not
on the court's. It's not on the court. created these documents which is different and these are the ones that documents anything else that it's done. So when these every individual that owns property currently
when they acquire their property as part of their transaction, they should have been provided a title title report or title work from as part of their closing agent there in those documents is and it is buried. I'll give you that. And in those documents are these incumbents.
Yes, sir. I'll give you one more minute to speak to it. Well, basically, um, your planning commission had voted to deny this incumbrance or this annexation, and I strongly suggest to comply with their recommendation and
deny this annexation. Thank you. All right. Thanks, sir. [Applause] Isaria name and address. My name is
address lakes 3108 lost drive in quad Florida 4772. Excellent. I have questions regarding the annexation for zone 4 item number four. Um I have a few guys answer
them. My first question is going to have to be what is the process for determining their market value and just compensation for uh property should this come to pass. Also just my understanding that this is an eminent project, right?
No. Perfect. And handover lakes is already in the city limits. It's in the city on this great already. It's not being annexed this evening. You may have been, you may have received notic. That's perfect because we received uh a letter saying that um essentially our
border, our home was going to be announced. Uh we live in Hanover Lakes right there and that we to leave because there is an expansion of a road. Mayor County is working on expanding hickory
tree. That's nothing to do with this. We're only talking about annexing properties that are just south. Perfect. So, who do I go to talk to about that? Oh, is this a letter you got with
Okay. So, as you know, the county is doing some road hickory hickory tree. So what what what is going on because the countyy's moving forward that these individuals that are in that area and potentially be part of a future eminent demon domain
action not by the city but by the county are receiving letters from private attorneys asking them toain those attorneys to defend their the the eminent domain action. That's the letter you received. So there's anything to do
with this. That's correct. I just pulled you up. You are in the city limits already and your house backs up to Hickory Tree. So that's why you're getting that from the county. A separate issue. Yeah, totally separate issue. You're already in the city. Who do I talk to? Oyola County. Yep. You're welcome. Thank
you. Raymond Liy name and address of the record, sir. Raymond Lackey 2210 Jessica Lane CMI Florida. I live in zone one. Um my
concern with the annexation on zone one is several. First of all, I'd like you all to take a good look at me because I'm one of the rarest of the rare people in this room. I'm a native of OciOla County and St. Cloud. Don't think there's many other
people who can say that. Got you there. Okay. So, I'm looking at this map. Gee, the little town that I knew that grid up there on the lake sure has changed in 11 years. So, I'm looking at where I live over here. Went to the
meeting in March. Talked to the ladies gentlemen who were there. Most of the stuff I kind of knew was coming because I understood voluntary utilities and St. Cloud had water for the woods. My concern is that
construction on Neptune Road access to our community by city services, ambulance, fire, police would certainly be very limited. Neptune road is a nightmare as it is under construction. and then to add emergency vehicles to it. I'm not
sure we would get the service that we will need. I know that chief has said there's fire station out there. I love that. Be very happy with that. My suggestion will be to postpone the annexation of zone one. You have
services and or Neptune road is more complete for better access. I know that may not be possible by the way you've structured your agenda, but that would be my suggestion because I don't see that we're going to get those services because of where we are. We're right on
that western border of the zone of St. Cloud that makes it difficult as it is and then the fact of the construction that's a challenge as well. Uh, I also have to work golf course.
Uh, this and every morning when I go over the golf course to work, I got to tell you, traffic coming across and getting on the turnpike is also a nightmare. Coupling that with the fact that the new overpass going into what I
guess is going to be called Edgewater. The turn bike uh is nowhere near complete. there would be no access there or if they can maybe postpone it on that part of the annexation. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank
you, Norman. Terry Norman Terry 5031 White or sorry uh Vantage Court uh St. Cloud. Um I I'm here to ask I live in Twin Lakes. Uh, as
you heard before uh when we purchased there, nobody builders, developers, nobody uh mentioned the fact that that there was some kind of an incumbrance uh and and it may have swayed myself or
others from from purchasing in there. Second thing I'd like to do like to say is if you look at the map there, you'll notice that Twin Lakes, which has anywhere from 800 to 2,000 homes when it's completed, it's completely encircled by non city. The
only thing that makes us part of the city is one little piece of land up at the far north edge of it. It seems to me that that as somebody else rightfully said that this is a a
tax increase the tax base of St. Cloud. Now I want to say that I've been in St. Cloud since 2007. I love St. Cloud and I think our fire and police are excellent. But I have to say this
just seems really wrong. seems like we're trying what you're trying to do is to increase your your tax base as fast as possible. Um the voluntary annexation in Congress
seems to be more like a uh eminent domain like activity where developer comes in says hey I'm going to build a thousand homes and and uh the city says okay
water but you got to sign off sign away your land knowing full well that there are going to be a thousand people or 2,000 people buying plots of land that don't know probably don't know anything about the
incumbrance and it seems highly unfair uh that that is being done in this manner. I mean, nobody nobody came through the 800 people that are in in Twin Lakes at this time and said,
"Hey, what what we're going to do, what do you give us a chance to sign an encumbrance with the property?" it it and it's like uh signed it away
before before the people who actually were going to live there had any say in that. Uh somebody also said something about the fact of the benefits and and how the way that they're described there is uh
uh not if at best some of them in are kind of u I want to mention I won't mention mention but but I a lot of people
and you talk about the sports great the sports activities are go take a look at the sports go take a look at some of your other some of your other sports uh parks they're deteriorating they're cracking they're really in bad shape and
you want to call that a benefit all right thank you I will say um city manager how how much weight did we just put into the new ball fields. Our finance director could answer that. I don't how much we've for the new ball
fields. Jeff, finance director. The 17th Street ball field is over $13 million. Thank you. Sorry. Um, I'm just going to say one thing. So,
this was actually done 2014. The JPA was established. It was between Ocula County and nobody up here was was in these positions when that agreement was made. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. And I grew up here. I've
been here since I was 18 months old. And there's a portion of the parent school that's going to be annexed in in the next round the next coming months. It's inevitable. Four out of five of us put up here to show 35 years. We've seen the growth here and um you know it's
unfortunate the county doesn't want to be in the parks business. So we we are assuming that the parks in this area and we're having to put maintenance into them. We just tore up uh Chism Park boat ramp. I don't know if you've seen that lately. Uh we just I believe we just
we're spending $480,000 I believe on that. It's it's not and impact fees don't cover that. So and I don't believe the impact fees really some of them fields but you know our town's growing so fast and those were the same ball
fields I played on until this council last year voted to build those fields. So I was very proud of them for doing that as a resident. I do believe there are going to be a lot of benefits. Ocio county doesn't want to service this area anymore. They want to, you know, JPA establishes the boundaries
all the way almost up to harmony. So when you say this barely touches within a few years, it's going to be few miles out from where you are, council member. Yeah, that's a great point. If I can
possibly add to that is I believe some of the here is a little bit misdirected when you know a lot of people mention well the builder never mentioned this developer never mentioned it to me when I bought the house of course I wish we could change
the disclosure rule house and developer we water and sewer and we sign these encumbrance agreements with the city and and if you live in the joint planning area in St. Cloud property has the
potential of getting annexed into the city. We're just made this office to be fiscally responsible for the city. We're just doing what is fiscally responsible thing that for the city of St.
Cloud. Next up, we have Greg Peacos. I pronounce that right? Greg Greg Pyus. Pas. Yes, sir. I'm addresses 266 Red Blush Terrace St.
uh I'm in the uh Twin Lakes 55 plus community. Um, and talk with all the other people there. And uh, uh, I'd like to ask the council to disapprove this, uh, not approve this, uh, annexation.
Uh, I was, uh, a lot of people were blindsided. I bought in that community two years ago and, uh, I was never told this. I read everything and I should have been disclosed uh, by somebody. and and
there's there's no way that uh everybody is unhappy with this whole annexation in our community. Um there is no value added here. There is no benefit
added. Uh also there's a impact adversely impacts people's finances. We're all on fixed incomes out there. And this is a lot more money uh potentially than uh you know a lot of
people can afford. Uh and people are just complaining how much the HOAs went up insurance. It's just uh just overwhelming. It's just getting out of hand and I would like this proof.
I'm one of the ones that talked during the planning commission uh asked about the uh the zoning uh and the setbacks because I wanted to build a pool in the backyard. I went to Ocola County
director to them. They he says that go back to the city and ask for transition documentation. I've asked for the project manager told me there is no transition documentation. So, this is all confusing and it's uh setting up for
failure for this uh this process. Uh there's also lawsuits because confusing. The uh city director there said that they'll have the fine print on what they're going to how they're going to handle this. All I get is I called
Melissa's office three times. Never got an answer from anybody for my questions. I've talked to the project managers. I've never seen anything documented. Uh it's just uh please do not approve this with the
way it city manager. Thank you. Um, I just wanted to to comment if if he has for his permit when he now can come to offer have my card, I'll make
sure the process to apply for his pool permit. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, I believe there's no I'm maybe And when may we please have your name and address the record please? Thank you. My name is Wanda Penny Patterson. I
live at 2343 Kings Crest Road, CMI, Florida 34744. I'm a proud homeowner at Kings Crest. I've been at King's Crest almost five years. I've been in Florida 35 years. I can't c catch up to you yet. I
chose to live in CMI, Florida. I did not I'm not choosing because the word voluntary shows up every so often. Voluntary means I have a choice. To me, I don't want to go. My neighbors and my friends have said the same thing, so I'm
basically going to echo them. It's a higher rate for me. I'm on a fixed income. You're going to impact my family. Don't impact my family. Don't impact my friends and neighbors. I can't afford to keep paying things out,
especially in this economy. I'm not crying for I maintain my home the best that I can, but making me move to St. Cloud to pay higher taxes when certain things aren't in my best interest. Why would I want to move to
St. allowed to pay higher p higher things. I don't use the word voluntary. Please don't add stress to myself and my family. This is a very stressful move that I don't want to do.
It's not voluntary. You're forcing me to do that. forcing me to re-evaluate my home, the way I have to live, the way I have to pay the higher costs. We all know that. All that we all have higher cost.
Hey, my friends and neighbors, please do not approve of this. You're going to impact my family. You're going to impact my friends. Do not do that. I'm asking you as a citizen of the United States of America and Oyola
County, please consider not doing this. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. [Applause] a greater love name and address. Good evening. For the record,
McGregor Love 215 North Drive. Um here on behalf of Narusi Land Adventures. Our client uh has been doing road work in the county. Um and that road work uh is
subject to certain mobility impact credit agreements. Um and there is and perhaps the community development director or Mr. status of this but we don't we're
not here to object in terms of the annexation. here only to note that we need to execute a a mobility fee interlocal agreement between the county, our client, the CDD, and the city. Uh we're hoping to be able to do that
possibly at the next meeting if this annexation is approved. So, we just wanted to note that for the record, if anyone on staff has additional information about when that might be able to be scheduled for a public hearing, I would invite that as well.
Thank you. Is this uh future phases lakes project is working? So this is this is road work that's being done and the road work on your client.
The client's pro the client was the developer of twin legs reserve at twin legs. Um and the road work is done at um along see Alligator Road
and other portion along um the Nulti Spine Road. There's a couple of different improvement projects and there is a draft um of the mobility impacting credit. Sure. And so we're working on a an agreement as you know
for some of these projects based on the interlocal agreement that the city has with the with regard to transportate it'll be all ready to go back in front of you in July. Okay. Have to deal with that. Thank you. All right. Thank you.
You show us scandas. Tried my best. I'll let you correct me when you get up here. Please, sir. Esar, 2087 Berante Drive, Six, Florida. Um now I you know I echo all their
sentiments but I wanted to talk about is the actual documentation uh for the incumbrance that was signed by the builders uh in before everything started. So I'm in banking and one thing we do is cross our tees dot our eyes. So
questions I wanted to ask was uh the encumbrance with the city of St. cloud is with an LLC uh but it's signed by a person that states they're the owner of the property without any title
for that LLC. How do we know that that person is uh acting in the full capacity of that LLC? Has there been an article of a corporation registered with the city so we can view and make sure that
this gentleman has the actual power to sign on behalf of the LLC by himself and not any other owners if there are on that LLC? That's one question. Uh second document and this was back in 2015. Second document was
signed back uh in 2018 uh with a a different person representing the same LLC um as the title number. Again, if he's signing in 2015
and he's right, one article needs to be filed and then what's the updated article in 2018? is that and then in the same annexation document in article in section 2.1 it
states that the city has received an incumbrance that has been executed by all property all owners of the property which the incumbrance has won but it doesn't state any title it just states the name what what is that
capacity should that stay should that not say is there a legal ramification for not having the title for signing on behalf of an LLC that's you know should the incumbent be nulled out as well as the annexation
document signed in 2018 what documentation was collected but these were signed by the city at that moment I know you guys weren't here but these are questions that I and I pulled
these um from so I went in and I saw anything that had to do with stuff and then there was nothing there showing any any proof of ownership of this
LLC for you. I I did pull up there. So is the other person but everybody is a member title member which
means everybody can do everything or what are they allotted to do you know that's that's the question I have we can't give you legal no no I know I know but that's my thing like you know did you did we get a copy of those article that article of incorporation at
the city level at the time of these documents were signed Right. So, you know, I I wasn't here 11 years ago. No, neither was I. I moved here four years now. Love it. My whole thing
is, you know, it's with the JPA. Oh, I understand that. 2014 15. Yeah. establishing res top right little box that's right there um solista if you look at
zone top right we have a 200 foot street or 1500 street on that left side and only 1,00 ft is being touched by uh where's that live lake I believe is there and nothing
else because it's going my request and I know annexation is going to happen just pushing it to a later date because everybody in the community is four years or less city manager just comment property directly
North evening. APA brings us all it'll be right up Thank you guys. Richard Watson. Sorry, Ricardo Watson. I apologize. Yes. Good evening. And uh what I got
here is uh this ordinance is that to this was never informed of any available agreement or municipal incumbrance at the time of purchase. Let's say we go through that. Noation will discloseing
that material facts facts that would have affected my decision to buy. This is not just a breach of public process legal consequences on Florida real estate disclosure laws. That's another I searched the Oola county
clerk. There's noation agreement and no preserved encumbrance tied to my property under Florida title act as the MRTA uh under subsection 72. any such claim for from 30 plus years ago presumed
exting plus acres the city has made major changes notice property owners were addressed to tenants notice didn't say my So that's uh not
proper. I was also I also wanted to know the on record to reflect objection. I don't know if you guys the uh legal objection and it was uh turned around by
the city clerk. Um I have a copy of thatction letter um questioning this uh answers. Um so that um 2025 has been a legal challenge has already been
filed in court which will be enforced have been submitted over 50 residents signed a petition online petition. I went around we went around walking and uh going home to home and uh getting signatures
petition because we don't want this. Um planning commission voted three two against it uh the last uh meeting and yet this council moves forward why uh every member of this council swore an oath to uphold the constitution United
States and the state of Florida. That oath binds you to protect due process, transparency, and the rights of the people with put you in place to govern. Yet, and yet attempt to follow my formal legal object, city clerk's office initially refused to accept the time
stamp was scratched out. Annexation brings new taxes, regulation, and municipal control of the affected community. No, no direct say in this process that is taxation without representation. Yes
sir. Thank you very It is unamerican and unconstitutional in our community by the government we did not elect in whose juris we've got other speakers here. Yes, sir. Yeah, we have we have other speakers here as well. Okay. because we're here.
We're here listening to you. The audience drive issue. I have road isn't built for the city. So we have to rely on problem that fire right now. If you have say clown
heart attack, the one on station 32 I think is closed. So you're going to have to run emergency ambulance out of 900 Minnesota which is the big fire station. So I recommend that you wait till you build the fire station to service our
community there because something bad is going to happen. fire stations and trucks and ambulance and police cars are going to have to go down to the road to service us. So I recommend when the road is done just think about doing it right
now. You have the power to say no right now. You can do it later but I would like to see Neptune before you finally incorporate this in. The other little point that I had is we're right on
the St. cloud and I didn't know how far this is going to go the city to incorporate all this land and I just think it's going to get too big for what you're doing and it's going
to sometime last point I want to make is why don't you just annex all these places that are building homes you got them on taxes because they're going to be big enough and they're going to grow the ones that are already here alone. Go
after the other ones and get the tax revenue on tree those big communities and everything. Just leave us so we can just go on with life. Yes, sir. Thank you. Uh, fire chief, can you please
um the unit the units would not be responding out of fire station 31. They have a temporary housing located. So their reality is they're closer than fire station. Additionally to that, you know, we are building that fire station there. Now something that I
failed to mention earlier as part of this JP agreement recipior I mentioned earlier city of St. does providing all those services and all those calls for service tax coming in to support our services. Those are the emergency costs. Those
cost so yes we would have the fire station built there. We're looking at projected opening sometime around August September next year. In the meantime, we'd be running out of temporary. A side note, fire station 63, which is there, used to be Shady Lane,
now it's Cross Prairie Parkway, I believe, is the third busiest county station. They're the only fire station in that closest fire station. So, anytime there's a fire, anytime there's any major issue going on, county is solely reliant on us and city of the
mountain. city manager. Thank you. I just wanted to comment that our police station is on Neptune Road. Um and they're going to be responding I think much faster. Um I think they're closer than the Austin Sheriff's Office. If you wanted to ask
um our police chief police Good evening, council Doug Gerky, police chief. Um I'm also a paramedic as well. The police department actually responds to medical calls also all night long. So when the fire department is actually running the the police department is actually responding as well. Um I don't believe they do that right now. So our
police officers are equipped with first aid devices valve masks all different types of interventions including AEDs. So anytime it's a cardiac event uh law enforcement does respond with flyer and sometimes we'll actually get there first to start priority care. So we are
literally right at Neptune Road. So um anything west of the turnpike we're in there right now. We already have some land in there. We're controlling it quite a bit. When you think of the population density, the officers that are actually in the area, we have officers per capita, especially in the city of St. Cloud and the Sher at any
given time. Yeah. And one thing I've noticed, we don't skimp on on public safety. I believe last week and that's going to be a major investment. So, you know, it's it hurts our public
safety and all of your your community. You know, if you care about the rest of the community, it's important to have services in this place. We're trying to prove it all right. and and sir Jade Bis
Biscador Biscador Kingdom Florida and most of my questions are kind of sorry. Well, so um which is I think
cross 1.6 six months and I know the station is closed down and like the gentleman said before the station on Neptune Road hasn't even been built. When is it going to be? Well, you'll have to ask questions here and then I'll have him come up. Okay. So, when is it going to be when is it going to be
built? When is it going to be completed where actually calls are going to be running out of there about station or or the canoe creek? The one right that's going to be on Neptune the new fire station. Um so and I get that um the city is claiming their ISO two and the
county is three look at the fact that county is very rural water supply so it's very hard for us to become a to get higher than a level three um and you said that
the city comes into a county joint response got cut off when he said how many times it came into thank He said it was 10 times and I wanted to make sure said that when trucks were inserted have
trucks that are un time. Another question is how many more fire stations are you going to be approving? We're going to need more fire stations to cover all that area. Please ma'am. Thank you.
again trying to write them down in order. Um fire station 35 planned opening in September of next year. ISO um our current value is two counties of three. There is split rating available fire stations and have those
areas. So the county is a solid three. They also have a 3X. So just outside of that hydrogen area tank services considered lower. As far as future fire stations, we have this coming year fire
station 32. Fire station 35 is September following fire station 36 that we also have developer agreements for the next four stations to a total of nine stations. So we're plann we already have
properties identified we have station design templates we have trucks on order well ahead of time so literally to build out the JPA we did some modeling takes 17 to 18 stations that property thank
you Adam Bailey Adam Bailey 369 Kings Crest Road. So when this all started, you need to address I can address everybody. I'm here to address everybody. All right. So somebody was saying all
the benefits. Oh, we get public parks. Do we not all get to use public parks even if they're not part of St. Right. That can anybody answer that for me? Yes. Right. No, sir. Who here behind me agrees that
we raise your hands, please. I don't see anybody here agreeing with that. For the record, nobody agreed. They wanted to be annexed. Okay. You all said, "Hey, you know, don't be mad at us. This all went into effect prior to us being on the
board, right? You voted in. We can't do anything about, but you can do something about that's why you're here, right? You're the ones that are going, right? You guys, we're not because we can't do anything. We can tell you what
we feel like, what we believe in, but you know what? You guys are the ones deciding it. You mayor, you know, we're not we're not deciding. You guys are please how many people do you guys have
right now? Are you guys under man? How many people? So you guys back to me? No sir. Okay. So how many are there? How much more room is
there? Not one St. police officer or anything else in my neighborhood. No, that's been helping us the other people, right? No, they haven't been helping out the
sheriff's department. They have not I have an elderly mother. Guess what? last time when I called uh ago minute 32 minutes and that was coming from the uh I think
uh department uh I don't know what the response time will be on that probably well over five minutes right I'm asking the board to not approve the
incumbrance. All right. You guys move to St. Cloud. I think I didn't live in you guys other cities. You guys move.
So I ask you guys do not vote with everybody else. Right. Next up we have Jessica. So, um I'm Jessica King, 1408 Kingston Way, also in um my husband and I have lived there. Um he actually bought the house before I
even lived down here. And in the last five years that I've been here, it's crazy how much everything's changed. Um his grandmother actually built our house. She owned the house and then buying it. And I have her old title policy. I have title policy. It used to
work in title. So I kind of know how to look these types of things up. So when we were notified that this was happening and you guys was mentioning disclosure and everything and maybe those rules should change. It's so hard
to even look up the incumbrance on the county website, the county recorders website and I have background in it. So anybody else who doesn't know what they're looking for I had actually from the county so or from the the city. So I just want to say that was something that
not I know you know that the way that they should be but it's just disheartening how much everything is changing so rapidly and when you do get notified of something about it. Um yeah but you guys. So I
also just wanted to mention it seems like everything's been done backwards like every huge develop all these people are rushing to none of the roads in prep. So
we're all suffering with that just that wasn't done in preparation. Um you're annexing us in I think zone one. Um, but you don't have the fire ready. So, it just seems like why are you guys doing things backwards? I I almost feel
like happen and then the now is just well change is inev inevitable growth is inevitable. It's going to happen. I just feel like um and everything else was I don't agree with that. That's
it. Anyone else in the audience like name and address for the record? You're gonna have to ask I'll ask him to go to the podium Jersey. Is that the way you run your department?
Majority of your um officers. So I see the fire department shirt. So I was actually a fireman for 10 years up in Long Island, New York. Volunteering a paramedic also. Um no, the officers are actually trained. I know a lot of the northern agencies do have EMT certifications. Um they have basic uh
first aid, CPR, AED use. Um they do Narcanis and obviously we basically start to do the the initial assessment and we start working on the victim of the patients prior to fire. So um our paramedics, there are paramedics on our
SWAT team. Uh we also have medical first responders um on our SWAT team as well. Not every law enforcement officer um is an EMT or paramedic. And I will say that's actually for the greater Orlando or regional area. Not many uh people
actually are crossworn. I don't want to say the way I am u because I've had the chance. Yes sir. question. So question is is anyone else in the audience like to speak on this item? Yes, sir.
body's already doing. Uh, far as the service thing, as of a couple weeks ago, I figured out that uh, it's good. We had one of our developer neighbors put some cows in his property.
I don't. So I get the phone call 11:30 at night going, "Your cows are up." So I go over there. They're not my cows. They're chasing cows around. So after about two
hours and I asked the Just whenever you're done, she's just putting it. Yeah, I know. But anyways, they end up in Grand Farm and they go, "Well, we'll just in the county that's in the city.
Why don't y'all look after?" So, don't look after it. Animal control was respond to it at night. So, this cow ran around the neighborhood there for three days. Nobody done nothing with it. I ended up going down and open the fence up, put it into my cows to get it off
the damn road, sir. Well, you always have. I was tired of getting phone call 2:00 in the morning, your cows from the sheriff's department and the city. Okay. I asked the officers who were there that night. I says, you know,
y'all got any help? No, there's uh we're short tonight. four cruisers should they should like doesn't seem like many cruisers all the annex all this in how many
cruisers are they going to add to it how many firemen they have they put fire stations in who's paying for them fire station it going to be St. tax base now or the people are annexing it. Are they going to pay for it? I say
it's the whole city pay for it. They're going to be millions of dollars. One down here 2.5 million. Harmony they built out there was 4.7 million. Where's all this money going to come from? Just out of the blue. All the impact fees are already
spent. They all you're gonna have a lot of money and you talk about this fire station up here. It's not going to be here this September. It's going to be next September. So you're putting these people's lives in jeopardy for a year
and four months because they're not going to be serviced by the county. I know there's a interlocal agreement both services the other one can't get there. You can tell by the way game played. If it's not your heart, you
don't want to get it. But I just don't think it's right force people into the city, especially if they didn't know nothing about it. You're talking about two different talking about Hickory
Tree. You're talking about index at the same time. Nobody knew which was which. No. Okay. Then I misunderstood. I mean, that's They knew that was police fire everything.
You cannot speak right now. The new developer come in, put the cows in, he got annexed in the city here probably a year ago. Yes. And this a lot of that confusion. Well, there is no confusion. They just don't know what to do. I I I can guarantee you our public public
safety chiefs over here, they know exactly what to do with once everything gets right. So, thank you. All right. Have a good night. No, sir. No, sir. You had your No, sir. Sir. Sir, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to leave the room,
sir. Sir, excuse me. Sir, I'm gonna ask you the room right now. Yes, sir. Thank you. Y sir, you keep speaking out. Please leave the room. Thank you. Can't just yell out. Anyone else be honest speak on
this? And can we please have your name and address? My name is J.R. W. I was never told before me up until when we got notices about this. This is a community
like incomes. We have any additional income coming in and I've been told it's dollars. I've also been told is much $1,000. So I think the very minimum you guys need the money. It sounds like the
police, fire department, everything. City of St. Cloud. But as citizens of your community, we can't bear the burden of that. I come up with another thousand dollar to pay this bill. You should at least give us
some grandfather, if you will. way like this transition in 500 this year 500 next year at least we can adjust our household income the
way you guys are doing now it's slam bang bank I don't think that's the best way to situation for your citizens I realize you need money to operate I just think you ought to reconsider what it's doing to your
constitu and how that will reflect in the future of this community. Yes, sir. Thank you. All right. Anyone else in the audience like to address this item? Council discussion.
Council member Paul. This question wanted to find out with after listening to all the residents um legally being that the residents that purchased these homes were not told about the um agreement. Is there
something legally that they can do on their end? And that's a good question. So where I think a lot of the frustration and the concern from the individual property owners has been they did not get information with regard to this time allegedly at the time that
they bought the program. Some of them two or three times maybe more since some of these encumbrances are in place. So respect what is to do with the people that they the ultimate developer that
that developed the property and they bought their houses from and so potentially there are issues with regard to giving legal advice like this I think it's going to be a problematic reason
these circumbrances were in place because the developer of that property came to the city and said we want. So in exchange for the water and sewer extension agreements which is what they
were some of these the older ones city actually had to commit to water and sewer lines way outside boundaries to provide water and sewer from the encumbrances were so even if the incumbrances somehow in they still got
the water services almost more like a contract that these developments for the water and sewer service. I think a court probably still come in and enforce that because they are getting the benefit. In other words, everybody
has water and utilities from the city and the incumbrances were those services. So I think they potentially could have cause of action against prior owner of their property maybe ultimately
against from the city's perspective is unforceful are part of the benefit. So basically they wouldn't even be under some other utility. They wouldn't be getting centralized water and some
motion ordinance number 125-2. Council member, I just wanted to say for taking the time to speak. I I do empathize with um you know the taxes going up. I
understand especially people who are retired on fixed income as I said at the beginning. Um, you know, I I to the city and I I feel like in my role here, I have to be
responsible for the city's fiscal responsibility, public safety, consolidation, making sure that we are um a safe city and and that we're doing the right thing for all of our 60 70,000 residents. So, with that, I'd make a
motion to approve. We have a motion from Council Member Urban. Second. Second from council member Gilbert. Madam clerk, please call the role. Council member Gilbert. Hi. Deputy Mayor Fletcher. Council member Paul. Hi. Council member Urban. Hi. Mayor
Robertson. Hi. Motion carries. One. Madam clerk, please read the next item. [Music] Final public hearing for ordinance number 2025-37. An ordinance to the city council of the city of St. Florida to annex in the city of St. Cloud approximately - 26 38. Go ahead and let
the room clear. Final public hear37 an ordinance of the city council of city Florida to annex into the city of St. Cloud approximately plus - 26.38 acres identified as Marlo Apartments at Nova Road project annex
25-000012 northeast north of east for Lebronson Memorial Highway west of Bradley Drive east of Nova Road in accordance with voluntary annexation provisions of chapter 171.044 Florida statutes. Good evening. Melissa Duncan, director of community development. This
case before you tonight is for the voluntary annexation for the project known as Marlo Apartments at Nova Road. This annexation is also an incumbrance indexation. This request will be statuto requirements and is consistent with our
joint planning agreement with us because it is contiguous to city limits and is recently the state of use is community center with a community center for the zoning
designation. Here is a perfect representation of the future land use map depicting the future land use designation of group or context. Here's a graphic representation of the zoning map depicting the
current core zoning classification for context. On board March 31st, 2025 staff recommended approval. Council recommended approval. Likewise, it is requested that this council approved December
2025-37 for theation for the project note as Margo apartments at no at this time staff is available for questions. This is an incumbent organization. Therefore, this is
initiated in the audience like Can I get a motion for motion? Motion approved. Second, please open member. Hi, Council Member Gilbert. Hi, Le. And there are no council actions items
at this time. Next section, next items on the agenda, ordinances, and there are no first streaming introduction this time. City attorneys, I do not have anything, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Great. So the manager I don't have anything I meant to before the meeting that you
received a letter from representative Main Street still. Yes. Yeah. We go and bring that up if staff was okay with that. Yeah. Um so so representative there's two hats.
Represgested um a letter from the city council for historic inventory to extend up to I think it was up to sixth street. Um so we do support the inventory right now. I don't know that staff's extending the
historic district see the results of soil like the mayor signing that support she she typically looks for matches elsewhere and then we had a meeting today talking about main streets I heard a little bit
about in general um she looks for matches and then she counts the city's contribution and income services because usually there's staff time associated I like what they do uh
last time. So I like to continue that. Main Street does a great job by that main street to get through committees within the city of St. the city council to be able to assist them
over city. I that no thank you sir. That is all mayor. Thank you city manager and council Paul want to say thank you council. Um yesterday I was approached by um some
residents and they were just saying thank you. Um they see that we're out there in the community showing up and um they were happy to see that. So, I want to say thank you to the council for showing up because it's definitely making the people smile and they are appreciative of it. So, that's all I
have. Council member Urban. Yeah. To that point, I had the honor of attending the the day ceremony at the cemetery and every year it's just incredible learning about the stories and sacrifices that service members
make. So, uh, just wanted to make sure we're speak to I just want to say it out there. I did have one item that I did want to pick up. Um, I was not at the last city council before
Trump where there was a couple of discipl to the audio homework that the majority voted prior to them agenda. And I know that there's already a couple that were scheduled. I believe
the the mayor had a two real association and I was wondering since I've had people you know have had the for some time now have already had it submitted also would be willing to go
take a vote on that I have so more than fast enough. So that's enough. Yeah, as you said, I have two sit back down review that council member Gil said.
effect has to be done in a proper way and I think we've done a good job of doing that. I'm just so proud of the council to understand and be heartfelt and decision as council
in which we just thankful for my brethren, my sisters here for sitting through it. Yes, sir. No, and I do agree. It's tough up here. Um it's also tough, you know, watching our community grow from I was
18 months old here and it flew from 6,700 people to 68,000 maybe even more. So, um we all share your concerns with the traffic and and everything else we have going here. But, you know, we have to we have to try and find a way to catch back up. And this first round, I
hate to say this is probably going to be the easiest round of annexations. It's the incumbrances. The next one's going to be the young place and those are the folks that um like where I grew up um they'll be in the next couple rounds. So, it's just about getting the
education out to the public and I know that that our city manager amazing job doing that with Miss Reynolds and I know I'm going to be out there with the police chief and the fire chief next month out in Twin Lakes with citizens. So, you know, we we really I'd like to
get out there and talk to every citizen that's prior to because obviously there's a lot of emotions. We're all we're all members of the same with that. Uh yeah, I was out there at Memorial Day as
well. also out there at all starts representative starts and the museum military history participated in that one as well. So it was great to see everybody out there and that's that's the time where the community really comes out. It's a
special. And with that, we have the information section. Thursday, June 12, 2025 council meeting here, 6:30 p.m. at city hall. With that, let's Mr.