jice all item two public comments anybody wishing to speak please come to the podium item three approval of the agenda so move motion and second on approval of the agenda any changes or
additions all those motion second on the approval of the agenda all those in favor signify by I I opposed item four consent agenda approve second motion and second on the consent agenda any issues or concerns
with that all those in favor signify by I I opposed very good item five public hearing special event rock Ober Fest David you gonna us through very good yes I can take this here real quick um yes so this is the same event that's
been going on for several years um the St Joseph booster club has submitted a special event application for Saturday September 28th from 11 excuse me 3m. to 11: p.m. it would take place in that church parking lot at the corner of Minnesota Street and College Avenue and
they're requesting seven spots on the northern border of the event be blocked off um so we do have a site plan and so we are here now tonight to take any public comments that there may be for the special event permit and at the close of that take any action that
the council feel feels appropriate very good so that being said we'll open the public hearing for a special event octob Fest anybody wishing to add the council or anything on this jump up there with your name address
and better record you that makes sense hi uh Chris asgar I took over as the uh chair of this event my only comment was when I was looking through you guys' notes on the application I think the chief of police recommended two officers and on the recommendation to you guys it
says three so I'm just trying to figure out what the uh difference is what the reason is from that recommendation of what's on the memo how was my audence only comment only comment I have yes very good thank you we'll get to it anybody else wishing to
speak that being said we're going to close the public hearing then now open it up to counselors and chief who wants to go first anybody what is your recommendation Dwight well the three officers came to
play when we started reminiscing about how last year went and um there was a little bit of maybe activity at the end of the event um it is some pretty strong beer that served there was some thefts of some Steins and there was a little
bit of stuff going on the officer that was working at officer Brer said that it was a little bit hectic at first and he felt pretty overwhelmed we had to bring some of our officers off the street to help out we had two of our officers off the street came in to help out so initially I had said um we probably I
don't believe the crowd is going to say the same size as last year it's only going to increase in popularity and when we were estimating 1,200 last year I think it's pretty safe to say you could probably exceed 1500 this year will you hit 2,000 hard to say don't know what the weather's going to do however the
event grows in popularity every year and for officer safety we need at least more than one um I had made the comment at first I could definitely see three happening um I stopped and talked to Kayla a little bit when I dropped off the permits and said well if I do the math with what we expect with the church
having 25,000 for Jtown rocks with the a number of 10 officers comes out to about one every 25 100 you know if you kind of put the same amount there you're going to be close to the maybe just under 2,000 I think it's still safe to say two would be sufficient and if we need to
pull somebody we can if it still continues to become a very intoxicating event we may have to bump that up next year but my minimum threshold that I would like to see is at least two based on last year's performance very
good any other comments you guys so I understand that rock toest wants seven parking spots on the north side of the venue on Minnesota
Street yeah and then anything along College Avenue looking at this diagram I mean no college has the sidewalk correct are you asking for anything on the street itself
no and the sidewalk will still be open this is College correct yeah yep so the sidewalk will still be open there we're doing if if you were there last year Kevin I think you were uh I think anyways I was there last perfect thank you Rick uh same setup we're just gonna
bump back because of the anticipated growth through at least I'm hoping it grows but like you said it's very dependent on the weather um but from a right away standpoint um not much has changed in that manner so I'm going to add on so quite
frankly the drop off and pickup was a mess okay it caused traffic to delay on both college and Minnesota plus they're dropping on the North side and the South Side Long pedestrians to cross both ways and to me that's both vehicle and
pedestrian safety issues all night long it's very poorly controlled it I mean I I would suggest you close that street and even College a portion of it up maybe to the I don't know to
the alley and allow I don't know if there's a way to allow drop off pickup in the alley back there or somewhere else where there's not a lot of vehicle traffic and certainly not a lot of pedestrian traffic I mean that was a mess I mean there people coming and going waiting
for a spot backing up at the four-way it it to me it just didn't work very well so your recommendation is to close off well I don't I don't I know I understand the need for or some need for drop off and pickup I'm just not sure
where the right location is Minnesota is not the right location for that that's my opinion and college if you close Minnesota then drop off pickup becomes college and you may have similar instance or or problems I just don't know what the I'm looking kind of for staff counsel I don't have the right
solution yeah and I I think at one of our in the past few years we've been discussing and probably most specifically the last year since David's come on board we've been talking at some of our workshops and kind of bringing David into into speed before he hadd seen some of himself one of our biggest
concerns is the traffic and all we are is one either bad accident or fatality away from getting a black eyy through all of our events and so if we have to um basically block off a few blocks during each one of these events so we
inconvenience a few drivers but everybody keeps moving in an orderly fashion versus those that are gawking off to the side when they should be paying attention and people that are getting impatient and not using crosswalks and they're darting through between cars we maybe better off to keep using the same footprint and I guess for
my purposes I didn't request the street closure on this one because I was still kind of thinking that we had time with Fourth of July next week to see how this first one really goes other than Jtown blocks but Joe toown rocks is a much larger event yeah and yet when you take what rock CER Fest looked like last year
that's bigger than what the cvb's Jon blocks was so I think there's definitely advantages for us to consider blocking off a portion of Minnesota Street whether we do it at First Avenue Again by The Legion detour them a block towards Ash to the north shoot them back
over again but like Ryan just said we're basically going to follow the same footprint where we block them over here at Baker and then they can just det2 around it if they need an Uber location they can come in off of Baker do a U-turn and come right back out again um is there reason why you moved is it because of space coming from the parking
lot over to the the dirt parking lot yeah correct space and um the setup's a lot easier for us from M the biggest thing is space we couldn't have in my opinion host you know held the event that we ended up with last year um in front of the school so yeah that was the
from a size perspective you probably doubled or tripled the number of people you know uh taking this over part of the reason was there's some confusion with the recordkeeping so I can't tell you exactly but I know it increased um which we're you know hoping to narrow some of
that record keeping down well especially when it gets later at night like after this it's it's it goes till 11: and then people really are crossing the street without you know I don't not saying they're uh they're high on life but they're high on a lot of things at that
time and they may not be paying much attention and so I to me there should be some kind of closure in there so that we can avoid that one accident that's waiting to happen yeah and we're I mean I'm as far as I'm concerned I come from
a safety background in the insurance industry I'm open to whatever your guys' recommendation is you guys understand it's t better than us I mean really I'm looking at you two guys Dwight Ryan and kind of counselors what do you guys think because that was last year that
was a mess after 10 o00 it was I thought somebody was going to get hit for sure well at least for sure Collegeville Avenue I I would say for sure that and I don't I don't know the right answer the one problem our entrance I
mean we can redesign this but we did have the curb there in the church Pate not milled purposely for that entrance um on Minnesota Street um which I guess if our hands are tied and we have to change that we can
right you guys anybody else I I would recommend in the form of a motion here put the closure at first First Street or Avenue whatever that is at Minnesota then down Minnesota right by the
alley close it there First Avenue Northwest by the Legion or first no not that you goad sorry Bob on East End of first East yeah okay and then
college going on to Minnesota and then block it off at the alley by the old Bank on Minnesota block that traffic off there and then uh South on College by the
alley coming into Minnesota street so it's like a it's like a t Aly to Baker to First East first Northeast I think that would
work yeah I would probably refrain from using the alleys as your te because that's not going to collect the amount of traffic I'd go to a major intersection so if you're going to go to First Avenue Northwest by Legion and then divert them up to Ash it's going to handle more traffic then an Alleyway is going to go and then you shoot them
across to the East and then they get back on First Avenue Northeast and come up towards Baker on this here like we're doing for the other ones and just avoid that area that's what Ryan and I were just discussing even if you block one block on either side of College Avenue you're still going to force yourself
into a 90 degree turn and people are still going to be shooting across whether coming from the local blend the meeting or uh the Midway or they're coming up from bodiddley's Bad Habit you you just got that collection of bodies so okay move out from the alley down to
the legion and cut off uh is it are we talking about the big T again yeah Bas or the big CRS yeah what is this drop off first to first last year they had a SE parking space reserve for so you could drop your
partner off and then bring an Uber in and pick up something like that so think when I was up front running the front end a lot of it we do get an elderly crowd in the beginning and it was I think a lot of it was Mobility you know drop off stuff like that on they're
all young kids also mobility issue at that time and you say on College block it off on what street is this Baker Baker yeah you'd have to come all the way down to Baker here okay I'll make a motion to that
effect second Motion in second I just want to make we'll have some more discussion but I want to make sure we're talking about the big tea again right first to First Ash to be first to First Ash to Baker yeah for for Joe toown blocks and Joe toown rocks we go all the
way out to Second oh do we really yeah okay but for this one we'll go to first okay uh more so that's the big thing about drop off and pickup I mean I just it was a mess last year you guys have something else me dad no I just safety
is I'm sure and like you just said so I'm sure you'll be amenable to that and we'd be looking at the street closure for the entirety of the event 3 to1 yeah I you know that's the other
question I'm just gonna ask Ryan do so we're gonna figure out when so when Ryan pay attention s right we're talking about the closure I know you are I know good job so the event goes from 3 to 11 what
when would we close the street you know what I mean when would we close it yeah like noon does the music start at 3 um it opens at soon after there's two bands so we have the can't think of the name of it they're Bavarian band but it
does start at three well there's a couple of Ooma bands and there's a rock band at night correct RH but three o'clock there's a yes a full orchestra band okay yeah yeah two to midnight because they'll start
showing up I assume before 3 yeah I I feel like last year people started to trickle I'm trying to text I apologize I missed my notes on the schedule but I think the band does ser soon after can so so Road blockage would
be a certain 12 to whatever okay 12 to 11 12 to 11 okay um and I just want to make sure in here it says recommending three but you just said two right Dwight I think two would be good okay
that' be the minimum okay so there's been a motion in second to again block streets um and it's going to be from noon till 11: p.m that night other questions or concerns I think the other so the other thing
is um we have to make a motion to accept the event or some approve the special event so we have prove the permit prove the yeah first prove the permit well we're approving the permit with the change that would be street closure that
can I end that right Bob yeah no I would recommend that you just you can do it in one motion okay yeah yep so that we are we're making a motion to approve the special event permit including blocking streets and person now from from noon to
11m everybody clear clear all those in favor signify by I I oppos motion carries thank you and well well that's that's okay okay thank you Chris thanks Chris thank you thank you okay let's beat up
Millstream now who's next Who's Next okay as you're aware this one is not a public hearing this is just they submitted their annual application um so the event would run from 11: till 5: um in the the closure of the street will be
6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. offer set up and clean up um in historically we have not had any issues with this and I do believe we have a representative here to speak and answer any questions that the council may have I have a question if you
yeah introduce yourself for the uh audio people at home Mary djavani with the mream Arts Festival so with what you have proposed in front of us has anything changed about the site plan from last year um
this I I can't tell you if the map is the same as last year I didn't do the application but the tents will again be on the I'm not sure it's the same street closure nothing's changed um you guys may recall I think two years ago we did the layout where the tents were in the
middle um they we went back to this curve line last year and that was successful so they all be back at the curb line but it doesn't change the street closure okay that was my only question I attended last year enjoyed the event
that was nice thank you [Music] second motion second to approve I have just a single question about traffic control did you have people in the corners or something like that last year
like pedestrians because Minnesota was open right Minnesota was open but I mean just the way we're set up the book end is on that one and um that's the author yep um but there there were no do you mean like staff
assigned to it volunteers assigned to it no it all flowed and again the same thing is my concern is that the parking in the church parking lot they're going to come coming across and I'm not saying this is you know all in the daylight and people are aware of it but same concern
about vehicle and a pedestrian safety and that they're Crossing to get their it's a great event it has been the crosswalks do seem to have worked with that one I mean it might be hours of the day and there's not I mean I can't say nobody has a drink at one of the downtown facilities
but it hasn't been a real drinking event if that makes sense so I just my opinion we'll watch that we'll need to watch it and see what kind of traffic and the size of the crowd and stuff like that motion in second U moving forward with street closure any other questions or
concerns all those in favor signified by I I motion carries thank you uh item six no seven kinetic right get my glasses [Music]
over Mr Mayor of the councel back hey this is the time it's the first council meeting in the month and this is when I've been committing to coming to give the council report on kind of what the status has been one of
the things that you'll have before you is a memor memorandum of understanding anou uh to add to the contract that kind of defines what expectations and codifies those
expectations on the part of kinetic to you as the council our our contract holders and we've wanted to make sure that we uh put those in writing to you as a firm commitment from connetic because we've heard you
loud and clear uh some of the things that that we've heard both from the council and frankly from the committee are having someone that had enough historical context uh in the um in the campaign and
the the back history of how we got to where we are in the campaign meaning me uh to take an ownership role a leadership on this and connectic has agreed that they would allow me to do that so I will
be the representative responsible for the relationship and Staffing to the committee and making sure that uh the committee meetings are held commit members understand what their obligations are and serving in the role and that we move forward expeditiously
with a fundraising goal um we agreed that that given uh given kinetics performance this year um that there would be three months that kinetic would
not bill um so we extended an additional month on this to make sure that we add things together but but during this time we've also made some pretty significant progress in adding members to the committee and getting the the committee
meetings on a regular schedule and making sure that W informing the leadership group there's a group of four of the committee members that are part of the leadership godre for it keeping them informed on what's happening in between meetings um
evidently the committee expressed that they did not feel that the training uh for service on the committee was adequate so July 18th we're doing a working lunch for the committee and it's
a two hour lunch and we're redoing training I met with uh Patty wling and Amy bonfig to go over the agenda for that training so that that way if it's not what they think that they need to learn we're going to adjust
and make sure that we give them what they need to move forward without a problem and we did that so we worked through the PowerPoint and that's been drafted and I've gone through and recollected new data for where we are with fundraising and
where the industry is just so happened that two weeks ago giving USA published its charitable giving report for the entire philanthropic community in the United States and we have those updated numbers for for the training session so
so we're going to have really good data uh we're going to have a good plan in place um and we met we met and talked over about that to make sure that that that we're giving the committee what they need to move forward one of the hesitancies that was happening with the
committee in making asks was they did not feel led and informed in a way that they were willing to ask their friends and neighbors for financial support for this because they didn't have the confidence that they needed so we worked
really hard in reestablishing confidence in the committee and we're just as we're working hard to reestablish confidence with the coun we want you to feel confident in our leadership and our our commitment to making this work so we've done that one of the committee members had an
absolutely outstanding idea and and I'm I'm for it came from the committee rather than having our eight days 80 hours a month spread evenly out
through the months in November and December where you've got the holiday periods of Thanksgiving and Christmas and the New Year's rather than trying to divide that 80 hours of kinetics service to you in December when it's hard to get
hold of people because of the holidays they're out of town um we're going to move those days earlier into our time frame which will allow us to get in front of donors and councilman loo hopefully if I'm able to come back to
you in December to ask for an extension I'll come back to you with actual progress on commitments and and money for there so so by frontend loading that the contract a little bit more with time and with
days and with resources we think that's a good chance and it's a good strategy I'm working on the the other good news has been we've been able to work with the the w with Greg Jake on a
response to foundations applications so we're moving forward on several private foundations applications and thus far in those foundations directors that we've spoken with um this is a project that
they would consider so the things that we've that we've told you we were going to try and do we're starting to deliver it um by the time I come for the next council meeting it is my intentions to have goals and objectives that are firm so that you
know that we'll have X number of dollars raised by this date and X number of dollars raised or committed if it's not in the bank at least committed in writing by that date so that way you can hold us accountable for a dollar level too my hesitancy on giving you that
dollar dollar level right now is it's premature we're just now starting to do the training we're just now starting to get this done but we're there connectic is allowing me to lead the team and to bring in people uh to supplement my
expertise and my skills to make sure that we're giving you the best shot to succeed so if you have any questions I'm here to answer anyone uh my only question is when when do we start getting a bill from Connecticut again is it this month or
next month it'll be the end of July okay very good thanks Scott than you item eight theou thank you mayor council members um
as you as you just saw Scott did a pretty good job of going through um theou so yeah the things is that Scott would be the primary representative uh the 80 hours can be flexible as far as what months they are used in umic agreed
to add one more month for total three months they agreed to provide the training uh to the fundraising committee um and that is not por part of the 80 hours that is in our contract and that they agree to develop an updated goals and timeline document with the city so
one thing I want everybody be aware of is so this memorandum of understanding is is in addition to the contract the contract is still what we're operating under the memorandum memorandum of understanding helps clarify some of the Maybe amb it that was in the contract
and makes it more specific so it it doesn't replace or subs or subvert the the original contract it clarifies the contract um what was intended or what needs to be um or what the contract does say so with that I would take any
questions and I would recommend that the that this be approved anyway counselors I need a motion I move to approve the memorandum a second Motion in second approving theou between city of St John conned other questions or concerns all those in favor
signify by I I opposed motion does indeed carry thank uh last but not least Department reports anybody anything I just have a couple things uh mayor and Council so just a couple FYI Hansen and companies
will be breaking ground on their new facility in the next couple weeks um so that's very exciting and then also the wedding event venue off Jade Road has requested a extension on their cup uh so you'll see that request at your next
council meeting this month does that have to go through planning at all or just we are running it through planning okay very good anything else anybody all right uh mayor and Council reports any councel reports anyone I have a couple of really kind of and I'll be quick because I know
it's 6:30 and we're probably Beyond you know well beyond our thing but I David and Bob and I attended the LMC conference down in Rochester and uh I attended just a couple of good sessions one I think was really good it um it was
the one on cannabis and the rule is there are no rules quite yet yeah well well we have an ocm correct an office of cannabis management kind of it's growing as speak um I don't know if you guys went there but um there's like
40 staff members and I mean there're just so many things that have changed from the original legislation to what they what they're working on now and they they assume it's going to change again there still can be a municipal dispensary and that doesn't affect the number of licenses but the licenses went
from a point system to a drawing on a Lotto drawing so if you if you're in the business and thought you're getting points by selling him products that's Au the door now you have to enter a drawing like everybody else there's some really good questions
so one of the guys asked if if a person in your neighborhood is kind of sketchy I'm G that's not your word he your that's my word but kind of sketchy and gets a license can you refuse it based on background they said no if the license the ocm has already authorized it and
he's in the drawing and he gets it you have to Grant him a license if he follows all their zoning regulations so really what what that ocm people were saying is that zoning has to be so tight on where we can and can't do it I mean there's a couple of online booklets that
they have for that and I think and they said you should have your legal team start working on it right away really that room was packed and there were so many questions that could have gone on for four hours I mean it was so good I mean it was good because there
was a lot of information it was bad because there's still an awful lot of to be uncovered the one other point that came to notice is that and this is kind of funny I think but if we we we don't regulate the state regulates it so we
can we can find them like if they're in violation of selling the wrong kind of cannabis or whatever we can find them to death but we can't revoke their license that's a state authorized thing so and they get this one guy asked a really good question that well if the if
the municipal liquor or the liquor store selling cannabis products can we revoke their liquor license yes so we can punish them by taking their liquor license away even though they're doing a cannabis that's an all state thing the regulations are all state it's really
convoluted and so the rules for all that stuff has are still going through it it was I'll send you guys the link because it's I was reading it off ours it's just filled full of stuff the other one I went to or I I think it was in the
awards thing the EMT from Springfield so firemen and EMT training or or a rules here they have to be have to live within like a three mile five mile radius or something like that I'm not that something like that sound right Ryan or seven minute respon seven
minutes seven minute response so what Springfield did was they went and they didn't have enough EMT people so they went to their employers and said hey would you be willing to let your employe employees Take Em environment training and
increase the number of stock we have and they did and it was overwhelming response that businesses want this service and they're you know were willing to allow their employees to take the training and they get beep go all those things so I thought gee we got a
whole College over here with a bunch of nursing students and a whole big program that would be perfect for EMT and fire train as long as you know it's you know we have we know numbers but I think that would take off some pressure and that would help pad like the the your nurse
is going through training right now I think it's something we should consider I thought that was a really good idea and I thought we're sitting with a ton of you know nurses training and that that would just fit that mold really well anyway those are those two were I
just kept thinking that EMT and college and how we could partner and I'm sure if there's a way that we can get some training into them and use them to be help our EMT staff as it you know probably probably taxed right now I don't know em they all said EMT calls are going like this fire like this kind
of but anyway I'll send you guys the links on the Cannabis stuff and you can read there's so much paper there there's just unbelievable what they're going on anybody else have anything I don't have anything else regarding the Cannabis products th's County at a county level in the last week I believe passed the
moratorium through the end of the year so we're not GNA see anything in St Joe because they passed that at a county level yeah and and quite honestly almost everybody in that room has a moratorium on I mean there's only a couple that are seeking it but you can't get a license
until what what the guy said if somebody is selling products it's illegal because we haven't handed out any licenses yet we're not going to be doing so for like another six months he said there's a catch22 he said we want to get the product available so that when we do
hand out licenses you can sell it and if you buy the product too early then that opens up the the the illegal Market because they have to get rid of that product somehow and so they'll start dispensing it anyway so yeah it's um most most of the people at
that thing or the ones I talked about have more T so not Not Unusual because the rules aren't out there yet question yeah Kim different topic uh to Randy or Ryan now that the county road 75 bridge is
done over there when will we expect the roundabout construction and detour to take hold or commence we're still probably several weeks out uh the count is still working through right of way challenges with
respect to that project so they haven't been able to get plan approval to to even bid the project okay so is that going to be like done this year or is it going to be my last conversation with the county staff was the hope was but I think the longer that these right avoid
challenges present them they're going to be faced with that same question thanks so Randy you and I talked about the right the free R Goes West there's also a free rate that goes east actually so at least in terms of my reach out to to
staff or or my team I I included both of those uh okay I did get an initial response from County staff in terms of some additional pedestrian warning signs that could go up I'm trying to find out if there's some other tools in the toolbx that we could consider and I look
and I didn't see much when there's free WR and there's a gap between where you get to hit the button to go out go across all the way so I I haven't found that yet but okay thank thank you for doing that anything else anyone once twice Thrice item
11 second Motion in second to adjourn all those in favor signify by I I opposed we adjourned thank you all very much