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[MUSIC] [MUSIC] It's a new member getting comes president here. 7 present not asked. Welcome everyone to our sympathy couple meeting. We're so thrilled that you tend to join us today. We invite everyone to join us in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. In my community, I. And they're at a public stands. One nation under God. And that's all we asked for all. Consent agenda items 5 through fort through. 34 before you for your consideration. And I know we are taking items. 33 34 for separate consideration. Is there anything else to come off of consent?

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Seeing none. I'll take motion from vice president and the balance of the consent agenda all in favor say Aye. I'll post 7 in favor. None opposed. The consent agenda is adopted as amended item. 33 is resolution 26 dash 9, 6, 9, establishing the rate of pay for the classification of GIs supervisor Eg 0, 9, S P s great, great 19. There was just a small technical change that needed to be added to this in the form of aversion to Siloam aversion to any discussion seeing none all in favor say Aye. I oppose 7 in favor. None opposed. The resolution is adopted as amended item. 34 is resolution 26 Dash 11. 0, 6, celebrating the 30th anniversary of Kumbaya. The

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Juneteenth story and its enduring legacy of community culture, freedom in the city of Saint Paul as Johnson. Well, good afternoon, colleagues. I get the pleasure of being able to introduce you to stay to Miss Missus. Rose McKee. Some going to welcome. MS may give at this time to join me. And also we have nyla he very hollow and we have doing as well coming in to talk to a little bit about this resolution. I had the chance to join them for the 30th anniversary of Cumbia, the Juneteenth story and this resolution honors the legacy of this community culture and freedom that is here within our city. As a reminder, we did pass a

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resolution here at this body and with full support as well. So as a mere speculation of Juneteenth, but also that it of something that happened in partnership with the Humanity Center here in Saint Paul has been miss McGee's convey. I Juneteenth story play. That's something that has continued to have is an annual impact here right in here in the Saint Paul area and at thank yous think hates University. This is the 30th anniversary of the of the play. It was on proclaimed the combined Juneteenth Story Day in the city of Saint Paul on June. 26 of this press, this resolution is our contribution to the work and honoring leaders like those that are behind me. And aside me,

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so I with that I'm just going to and I'm going to have this muggy gives a couple minutes. I did share with folks. It's 2 minutes each and so I will come back in and just be the last to be results causes and will make a motion at that time. Welcome. Thank you, council. And I really do feel extremely honored that you're acknowledging the 30th anniversary. I cannot believe it's been 30 years. The Twin Cities Juneteenth Commission said can you create something that will help educate our community at

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the time we were doing a wonderful parade and also a festival in the park. But people still didn't understand what Juneteenth meant. So I was able to get started with the arts, this organization that was started by Tony Carter. And at that time, we created this wonderful program that involve these young people mostly through story telling when we were done, though, we asked the audience what they want to see and they said more. And then they said it should be something that would be accessible to students so that they can understand this history that has been omitted

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from our typical learning books and things right. And so I began to really crafted out a little bit deeper. And later, I had an opportunity to actually go to Ghana West Africa and learned more about the history of some things that I had then began to incorporate into the play. So here we are 30 years later, we make it a little bit different every year for 3 of those 30 years, I was actually working with the Minnesota Humanity Center in Omaha, Nebraska, and we were able to do the play in Omaha. So that's quite a pleasure to see a bus of the folks from Omaha com

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last week to the play. So I just say thank you for this. I really appreciate the Minnesota, Humanities and certainly the city Saint Paul in these wonderful council members for acknowledging this event. And let me just go on to say whatever we can do, whatever we can do to uplift the power, freedom and now more than ever, it seems especially more than ever in many of our life times. It's important that our young people as well as our adults understand the history, understand how important it is that we can justice stand together and and and worked together in the

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immunity and understand truly what freedom is because is Frederick Douglass says which is one of the lines in the play. If there is no what struggle, there is no progress. Now, Kim Kevin Lindsay is going to come up here real quickly and he's going to say some words as well. And then I will go to sit down. Thank you so much. Thank you. Welcome that support you immediately on the spot. Rose is accustomed to doing that. So it's alright. So I do appreciate the council taking a moment out to recognize Rose. It's very important time in our nation's history to be able to talk about the time period right after the Civil war

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and the issues that reverberated around the country ha reverberate now. So I appreciate it was the I appreciate her energy and to appreciate the passion 30 years ago for this play in creating it and then carrying it for for the city of Mount Isa. So again, thank you deeply from SA Madison and especially to recognize rose on this tremendous occasion of the 30th anniversary of the play. Hey, Good evening Council. I the reason why I was here standing just sand and support of the miraculous froze McGee is because honestly, I see us. As additional my, you know, my family, when we think about

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the village in the call of action that you have a rooted in your purpose in like the story behind I even is creating the can buy at play is is very personal to me was part of my childhood. I remember being part of, you know, the field trips and seen the call by at play even being asked to join the play and be honorary director, you know, watcher of the play. And I just want to say it's just so so so important that we're commemorating a legacy. A milestone 30 years is not easy, especially when we think about just where like support

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comes from and how there's always this changing in terms of who stories matter. And I just want to say thank you so much for your tenacity. I also want to just recognize all the many hands that went into ensuring that this play and is a footprint, a permanent footprint and what community look or too when it comes to Juneteenth. So again, thank you. There's so many leaders that can be here today and saying your praises, Israel's ban is so thankful, particularly for your leadership and how you have just model the importance of telling our story. Council members, good afternoon. I just want to briefly share some remarks as the board chair, sweet potato

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comfort pie. We just continue to be so grateful for the leadership. The tenacity, the courage that I call her Queen Rose McKee has expressed a demonstrated over the years even when there's been a lack of financial support or challenges with the ecosystem or the environment that she is hosting this event. And she is always showed up with the beauty that we know Israeli who we are as Minnesotans and less wheat ale come for PI offers even beyond the call by play, is an opportunity for cultural connection and bridge building and really being that place where people can find one another and find authenticity

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and being connected through togetherness. So so hopeful that this play will continue to be sustained part of Minnesota legacy and history because it's everyone's history, such powerful words from some of the people that genuinely understand fully why it's so important to continue to not only just see the work happen for this to get also honor the work. So now, you know, the motion that I bring in front of the resolution that they bring in front of you does resolve that the Saint Paul City Council recognizes an a plus. The tremendous contributions of artists, artists clean, fun and everything froze the

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muggy, the sweet potato comfort tie organization and the Minnesota committee senator for their commitment to preserving history, advancing community dialogue and honoring the legacy of Juneteenth through the transformative power of storytelling and their arts and be it further resolved. The Saint Paul City Council affirms the truth, telling cultural expression and artistic storytelling that are essential to building strong communities, deepening understanding across to France and ensuring that the lessons of our shared history continue to inform our collective future and it finally resolved the Saint. Paul City Council congratulates can be the Juneteenth story and its 30th anniversary and expresses its gratitude for the

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play's enduring impact and uplifting black history, celebrating black resilience and inspiring generations of Saint Paul residents through education, reflection and hope. And with that colleagues, I move approval. Thank you so much, Mister Johnson. Thank you to everyone who is here with us today. This is a really momentous occasion and we're honored to have you in our present. So thank you for your hard work and for your leadership and for being here. There is a motion on the table for approval and that my colleagues to see if there's any discussion seeing none all in favor say Aye. All post 7 in favor not oppose. The resolution is adopted. [APPLAUSE]

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And Grand Prix when asked it is and I think they want to hear. And on the way, the U.S.. Out about 70% when the photos of the better. Yeah. And I would be that's my sister to us, too. It's so wonderful to see. Thank you. Councilmember to, of course, a break in Miami. And number, 35 is ordinance 26 dash. 32 amending Appendix C of the legislative code relating to northern States power dba Xcel Energy Electric franchise. I believe we have a staff of

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4 on this item. This young man's welcome. And that's why think applied to. But this item in the next one. For those of you who are just joining us for the first time in or not, one of our regular millions of YouTube watchers at home or attendees here in chambers, all of our ordinances have at least 3 meetings. The first reading is always a staff report to tell us what we're considering. The second reading the next week is a public hearing where we hear from the public about what's being proposed. And the 3rd reading is often the final adoption, the final vote. Sometimes we take more time we have more amendments to consider. So in this case, this is the first reading of these 2 ordinances. So we will have a staff report. Welcome stance.

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Good afternoon. I'm really against the city treasurer in office, financial services on your give a brief a staff report on these 2 ordinances as you mention. So we're in the midst of negotiations right now with Excel for both our gas and left franchises are for a franchise is set to expire August 31st of this year. And so we need a brief extension of the life of our current franchise out to the end of the year to accommodate with the last phase of negotiations with the South. I just don't have to go to the Public Utilities Commission to bring for their rates, which a franchise fee is part of that. So the new timeline last lets them do that before.

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Just treating the scientists do not adjust now, don't adjust. [LAUGHTER] Yeah. So that the new time let's I I. Bringing their items through the Public Utilities Commission and let us finish out the rest of our contractor current franchise and will likely be back to you all here in the next month or 2. What kind of that last phase of negotiations wrapped up? So that's all I have a staff report questions. Click it. Thanks so much. As it's frustrating that Saddam Ali over tell July 15th item is laid over til July 15th for second reading public hearing.

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Item number. 35 is ordinance 26 dash. 33 or 36 ordinance 26 Dash 33, many Penix be of the legislative cold. Really northern states power DB Excel Energy Gas franchise. And this ordinance is laid over to Jeff to July 15th for second reading public hearing item. 37 is resolution public hearing 26 dash one. 46 approving the application of Rondo Community Coalition for some of the variants are present amplified sound for 4th annual Rondo Block Party event on Saturday, August 1st and a 20 round Avenue around a commemorative plaza. So we are now in our public hearing section of our agenda. So if you are here for any of our public hearing items when

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your item is red and I call the public hearing, if you're here to testify, please come on up. Stand in between the 2 microphones. You don't need to adjust them anymore. You have 2 minutes to testify. We ask that you start with your name and where you're coming from. And when you're done and there's a time in front of you in 2 minutes to go back quickly. So just please be aware that when you're done testifying, please sign in and either the to sign in sheets. So with that, this is a public hearing on item. 37, is there anyone here to speak to this item, seeing none. We'll take a motion from his bully to close the public hearing and approve all in favor say Aye.

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I will post 7 favor. None opposed. The resolution is adopted item. 38 is resolution public hearing 26 Dash one. 47 approving the application of Sonia Castillo. For sound level. Variants are present amplified sound fortune kind of fast event on Saturday, 7/11/2026. At 2, 3, 5, Marshall Avenue think Paul Technical College. This this is a public hearing. Is there anyone here to speak to the site at seeing none? We'll take a motion from is going to close the public hearing and approve all in favor. Say Aye. I'll post 7 in favor. None opposed. The resolution is adopted. I am number. 39 is ordinance 25 Dash 4 amending title for the Saint Paul Administrative

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Code to add Chapter 92 handled tree preservation for city-sponsored construction project. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here to speak to this item? I think maybe we'll have folks just lined up on either side of the gold columns and come on up when it's your turn. Welcome. Hello, my name is Tom Darling. I'm out a member of the Board of the Summit Avenue Residential Preservation Association are sorry about and I was on the public input group that worked on the Tree Preservation ordinance and the standard operating procedures.

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And I want to start by because I don't want to run out of time to say that by saying that we all we all knew we all owe a debt of gratitude to make an jacket from the beginning to the end, Meghan has been a force to be reckoned with. Megan got this ordinance, John, the mayor and thank her and we should all applaud her. Well, I've got an extension of my 2 minutes. 40 plus now moving out. I am service support the draft ordinance. Now it's far from perfect. However, having said that,

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the draft ordinance and they also peas, in my view, should Hield important result of giving trees real and meaningful seat at the table when city construction projects are being considered and implemented. Now it's crucial to emphasize that this is a tree preservation ordinance. It is not a tree replacement ordinance. Trees must be preserved. They cannot meaningfully be replaced, but or trees once con will not be replaced for decades and decades when this, when this city council passes this ordinance, you'll be elevating tree preservation above replacement

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and that's how it should be. Once this ordinance is passed to as city council members must be diligent and making sure it is implemented consistent with its intent. Tree preservation, parks and public works must also work to implement it honestly and fairly. They must not only seek community input, then let's listen to that community input and act upon it. It can't just be a feel-good pat yourself on the back exercises and you so much. That is 2 minutes. I really appreciate testimony. Make sure to sign it.

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My name is Kerry Tad. I live in war 2. First, I want to say thank you 7 and that a tremendous amount of work went into developing this ordinance. It's important to get it right so that it can be enforceable and comprehensive rather than just a token to preservation in name. Only have a couple questions with the ordinance. Be strong enough to force an alternative designs and methods to be chosen, especially with discretionary elements of projects like bike trails were clear alternatives exist or will proposed project designed to overrule alternatives. And tree preservation will only occur if

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feasible or if it doesn't prohibit construction activity. Will the city be solely reliant on contractor reports or other requirements for onsite review of ongoing construction to enforce this ordinance? Saint Paul Street Canopy serves all residents and is a major attraction that draws people to our city. We want this ordinance to answer the question that people always ask when reading about another bunch of trees being removed for some construction project. How many Austrians are too many? I understand the tree loss occurs in construction but alternative designs and techniques need to be chosen. That reduce the number of trees

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lost rather than attempt to Bonnie attempt to preserve the want to remain. Contractors will invariably choose the least expensive path. Tree planting is important, but replanting is not preservation. It takes decades for a tree to grow back to the point where it can deliver the benefits that mature tree deliver to us today. Can you require periodic reporting to the city Council on the effectiveness of this new ordinance would be interesting to see how designs were altered alternatives chosen and number of trees preserved based on the application of this ordinance.

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Thank you so much. Make sure to sign an Malcolm up. Hello. I'm Bridgett Allen, Alice and I was also on the cheat input group and I want to cut Megan and Steve and Steve died and their peers in back there. And and Tom Hagen team, green fields and all the people that were coming trend. These it was great. So make this really quick because I agree with a lot of what has already been set. So I'll just echo it. The way I see this is preserving trees is the lowest barrier with the highest value to preserve trees lows. Very a high value for the entire City

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II. Don't always come across that kind of a concept. So this is very good whether it be mental health, physical health, financial health. Just think when you read a description of a property apartment for rent on a tree-lined street, duplex for rent and a tree lined street house for sale on a tree-lined street. It makes a difference for civic pride of Saint Paul. And then lastly, I just say. Since Omaha has high hopes near my daughter went to school in Omaha for college and every

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time she would come back, she's like, gosh, I forget how beautiful same pollen is with all these trees. And now we loved Omaha for what it did for her and our little hard. We've little piece of our heart in Omaha, but when your children start to realize what a value this is, it's wonderful. So thanks for all the work and I support the ordinance. Thank you. Thank you so much. Make sure to sign an welcome up. I'm told that you do that. Okay. So cars. We'll be in a state of anticipation for a final speaker for as long as it takes.

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And music music, you for sure that the U.S. it's just us 2 years. And I appreciate the theatricality of us. Thank you so much. Members of the council and council President, I'm Michael John Peace, the president and chief parks champion of the sample Parks Conservancy personally, my state. Can this be on being a resident of Saint Paul is my great grandfather stake to treat claim in Nebraska 140 some years ago and in exchange for the land from the government that some insanely cheap price, right? It was to plant trees, which are still there and have changed the ecology for the good in that area. As in my role

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professionally, I really want to we've already given a well-deserved shout out to Megan. I want to also give a shout out to the staff of both public works and parks because they always have big work in front of them and they stayed at the table and the community stayed at the table when we had to delay some of the conversations so that staff can get their other work done in order to pay the right amount of attention to the stop is and to the rolls up in this ordinance and the group that Matt out meeting after meeting after meeting with check, it was very diverse and very tenacious and we didn't always agree. And I think that's what's made it the best ordinance. It can be as

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stated. It's not perfect. It's a huge paradigm shift. And I'm hoping that as it rolls out in the next 10 or 20 years, maybe it doesn't take that long Weise that launches us into a culture shift away. Some of their cities have around how they think of trees is infrastructure. But I'm really proud that we have acknowledged trees are public infrastructure and they're worth considering. And sometimes they trump the other considerations. So it's been a great process. And I really admire the work you all have put in to overlaying this and to keeping it going because this is the best work we could come up with

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all together. So thank you. Thank you so much. Make sure to sign an thank you for your patience with us. Is there anyone else here to speak to this item? All right. I will make a motion to close the public hearing and make some comments all in favor say Aye. A post 7 in favor. None opposed to public hearings close. Well, I we always have a bit of an anti-climactic process here because we have the first reading, as I mentioned, we have the public hearing when folks who really care about an ordinance typically actually come here and we don't take a final vote on the ordinance until the next week. So while people are here who took the time to testify, I just want to

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say, I am so grateful to you for taking the time to be here and for many, many hours of back and forth conversation of input that you've given to this process, those of you from the public input group, it is what has made this ordinance so strong. They're not perfect. So thank you. I am not typically known for being a very patient person. So if you had told me last February, when we opened up the public hearing on the first version of this ordinance that we would not be passing it the next week, the next month. But 14 months later, 15 months later, we would be back looking at this ordinance. Again, I probably but not a thought

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that that was something I could handle this, but I am so glad that we took the time that we did. And I think it's actually have sent us my colleagues earlier. I think it's been interesting to see some of the framing of this process and some of the media about how you know it. It took so long to get this ordinance done. And when and the council heard pushback, they stopped and they took the time to engage their critics and and figure it out as though that's a negative thing. And I think that says so much about our politics today that taking the time to get it right and engaging the people who don't agree with you and trying to get to a point where you can all stand here. People did today and say it's not perfect, but we're excited about it.

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But that's a that's a ding on somehow. I think that is what government should be. We've had 19 public meetings, including the public input meetings, including the mayor's advisory committee and disabilities, including the Parks Commission, including near Jacket, going in-person to every one of our district councils. And we have had our parks and public works departments working together on this ordinance, which is not just process, but it's actually also the outcome because at the end of the day, the only way this ordinance works is when parks public works, work together and have the relationships in place to do that. And as a result of the last 16 months, they have develop those relationships so they'll be ready to hit the

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ground running implementing this ordinance on day one. We don't just have an ordinance. We have standard operating procedures. That was something that we heard loud and clear from community members. We didn't just want the high-level. The details are what matter. And we need the details to be adapted to those details, by the way, Mr. Todd's point included requirement to evaluate the ordinance annually to see how it's doing. And I think that's something that we should include more often in our legislation. And we did all of this process because trees matter deeply. We knew that before we started this. But if we have learned anything throughout this process, it is something that has become patently clear. They are they

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are deeply personal. That tree outside your house on your boulevard feels like in some cases, a member of your family, every single one of our boards has a project that we can point to where trees were not given a voice and where there have been sometimes devastating consequences that people remember for for years. And so this time that we put in was I think in honor of the importance of what we're doing, and I'm really grateful that we that we took it. And I just want to finally extend my thanks to the public input group to our packs and public works staff and to the incredible making jacket with have to. Absolutely we would not be here. So thank you,

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too, everyone. And with that, we're not going to do anything right now, although I welcome anybody else who would like to make any cuts while we have folks here to testify, including our attorney. And I think some of the first speakers inside them, it was caught me off of the opportunity to speak against the open carrying. Yeah. So apparently the video feed was not working for the first couple of speakers. So people would like to repeat their comments. Ultimately we consulted written comments can accept written comments against.

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Well, I mean, I wrote, I wrote My and I can read my post. Get her to make. [MUSIC] I'm gonna make a motion to reopen the public hearing all in favor say aye opposed to 7 in favor. None opposed to public hearings reopens in one house. [MUSIC] Thank you. Very I mean, welcome. A perfect ending like this never happened, Sir. My name's Tom Darling. I'm a member of the Board of the Summit Avenue. Residential Preservation Association are sharp. I was on the public input group that worked on the ordinance and the S peas. And I want to start by saying that we all owe a debt of

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gratitude to make and jacket from beginning them. Meghan has been a force to be reckoned with making the Macon got the ordinance done. I admire greatly, I think are sincerely and we should all applaud her and now moving on I I I'm surface support the draft ordinance. It is far from perfect. However, that said the draft ordinance and the s peas in my view should deal the important result of giving trees a real and meaningful seat at the table. One city construction projects are being considered and implemented. It is crucial to emphasize that this is a tree preservation ordinance it into

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a tree replacement ordinance. Trees must be preserved. They cannot meaningfully be replaced, but or trees once gone will not be place for decades and decades. When the city council passes this ordinance, you'll be elevated tree preservation above placement. And that's how it should be. Once this ordinance is passed, you as a city council members must be diligent and making sure that is that it is being implemented consistent with its intent. Public works must also work to implement it honestly and fairly, they must not only seek community input. They must listen to it and act upon that

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input. This ordinance cannot just be a feel-good exercise. Were we which we use to proclaim our love of trees and pat ourselves on the back? It must work. And for it to work a tree preservation, his hosts must be real, both in both the spirit and the words of the ordinance must be honored. Thank you. Thank you so much. We got we got the whole testimony. So thank you and make sure to sign it. Is there anyone else who wishes to testify on this item? Us and I will move to close the public. Can all in favor say aye oppose 7 in favor. None opposed the public hearings close.

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Any other comments from my colleagues as Johnson. I want to share this kind of what I have witnessed over the last year. And yes, but that he knew some 15 months. I'll just share that. I think when any time committee members share the feedback, that ordinance is not perfect. That is when I feel like in the process itself must have been incredibly credible because sometimes ordinances and laws are. And you know, they're not perfect. I don't cover everything in order to get to the place where we all agree. You may be the most common good and so and so many of the spaces. And I think just even when this was first introduced, I remember this is for us to do so. Now some of our inboxes after followed by just where we are now with them, even the testifier, the testimony today

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just want to say super I support of of only this ordinance, but I think just the overall tension alley that went into crafting it because the reality is that this ordinance does touch everywhere across the city. And, you know, each councilmember, I'm sure has heard if math and heard what I heard significant a growing interest in preserving our tree canopy here on especially on the side. We have some of the greatest climate action disparities when it comes just all of the things and often is related to the the amount of trees we do not have and my community and in so many of the spaces, they think that ordinances ordinances like this, that really just take the

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time to try to gather input on all different sides, no matter where folks are coming from from this, but also educate community members along the way, if that took a year and a half, so be it. I think it's it's really important that what we got to this point. And so I do also appreciate the work of the word to office. I know that the praises I've been saying for from for Megan Check in on the record. And I think that that's super important ousting the work of direct Rodriguez and our park staff that and our part parks team are very notable as well. And then I think for every committee member who decided that this was important enough to invest

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the ample amount of time in which you have on this ordinance, also think that that's just truly what makes the process important and credible. And I think it'll be really important to some of the questions raised today on the record. You know that that it's very clear that in the future ordinances as well. So therefore enforcement mechanisms as well. So their investments, this is gonna take a lot of effort and the forefront to continue to have that. There is a price tag, the lead with it. But as with any policy that we put forward ordinance that we put forward and at the same time, it'll be important to that kind of ability piece to watch it over time.

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Because the good part is that we have to start somewhere. And I think that we have a solid starting ground. So just want to share that our office will be joining in as a co-sponsor. Don't see yourself with that. I want to fix that for next week, but truly supportive of the effort that has went into it. And I know that there it's a lot of folks watching it. And, you know, for people couldn't give up there on the amount of time that some of you have. We thank you on behalf of the city. Thanks. Thank you. Miss Johnson, other discussions, Billy. Thank you, council president. I also just want to reiterate what was said. I really appreciate the 2 fires

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coming here. And now a sharing with the progress was and is even as a council member seeing the evolution of this ordinance of it being truly community-driven. And this was a grass roots as it gets in terms of how do we preserve and create ordinances and policies to to do something that the the city just, you know, and here he was into it automatically. So we don't take any of that for granted. I also just think I want to highlight that this is truly a model like what it looks like for community accountability. And I know for for me, particularly in my board, especially this has been a great concern in terms of the

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tree canopy, the development, how infrastructure has some good infrastructure that we want and also snow line it with preserving I tree assets. I appreciate hearing to that out. Trees should be treated as public infrastructure that was so so telling in terms of like, what are the assets that we preserve and what are you know, what there, what's compromise in the process? I also just want to say kudos to ensuring that communities stay at the table and all sometimes with government services. We try not to get too much into the weeds, but it seems like this body was all into the weeds and all part of the the process. I know

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that's that's usually not the case. But I think this is a great opportunity for us to get to the root of like what community engagement actually looks like in the outcome and a byproduct of that community engagement as want to just say to, you know, I think it's really important. Good policy is billed at the speed of trust. And this obviously took a lot of time because we need to build that relationship. We need to build that trust. And we can only build that trust by having these conversations by making these commitments and making sure it's really clear and tangible in terms of what the standard that we're holding, not only the city to, but also

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the accountability to our neighbors and people that we serve every day. So, you know, I think pushback is always good to chins. Always good collaboration. It's always good. So I'm just happy is just get one step closer to actually approving this. Thank you as be any other discussion. Seeing none of this will only open to. Item is laid over to July 15th for final adoption legislative hearing consent agenda items. 43, 49 and before you for your consideration is empty. And to not see my automatic, this won't welcome. Good

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afternoon council members council president and council members and we have one item I believe. To be pulled for separate consideration. That is item number. 43 elated to 63 Kansas. Item number. 43, our Ali Jeff Co. 26 to 51 appeal of Abe McKenzie. Tenant of Unit 5 to a fire certificate of occupancy Correction. Notice at 63 Kansas Avenue. Council president council members. This is an appeal of a fair correction order dated June night that had a handful of items on it mostly related to some plumbing issues, holes throw some laws that

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needed to be repaying it. Some repairs are significant, but they didn't rise to the level of needing to be condemned and vacated. And the Helen did indicate in the hearing. Some continued frustrations with the landlord could reports the Department of Safety and inspections. I did want to flag according to our research, there was no historic records of complaints or allegations for this property. All that is in front of you today is. Those current orders from June 9th. And the recommendation is to grant until August 7th for

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compliance with these orders. They do believe the appellant has pursued other avenues court with other jurisdictions that the city does not have any jurisdiction over. Thank you. Isn't the end just before you put the public hearing? Can you clarify what those orders are? Yeah, needs to be corrected. Accident if I can show you some pictures but the. The report given by supervisor keep them arrest. The findings included kitchen during line, drifting upstairs

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bathtub over flowing through the ceiling, keep deflector shield, remove from heat or in the kitchen. There were a couple smoke alarms that were removed. Those are obviously the biggest issues that that this time they were in the kitchen in the basement, some repairs and holes in the vanity upstairs. There's some bubbling in the ceiling upstairs. Again, the repainting and and throughout basically condensation with kind of causing dirt on the walls that needs to be cleaned and likely be painted and a new front fan upstairs. And these to be clear, our orders to the tenant or to the property, the property owners ultimately responsible for these parents.

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And so the appeal of the tenant in a case for or not, there's no vacate order to know that the tenant has continued frustrations with the landlord, not addressing some of these issues. This did start in February. So there was multiple visits to the property orders issued. Nothing done. I believe that was February 18th, March 5th, April 9th, new orders. Nothing done. May 8th new orders. Nothing done. That leads us to hear. So the tenant is appealing the orders to

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he's appealing the order. This because he disagrees with I think perhaps the time given which again is of the 7th month and I love him speak responsibilities on the property owner to make the repairs. Correct. Okay. Thank you so much to us. Think don't go too far at this is a public hearing. Have 2 minutes. Make sure you start your really correct, sir. I'm so sorry. Can you start with your name and where you're coming from? And then you'll have 2 minutes and they came out to see what your ask is of us? OK, I'm being McCain. Gee, do I use my time to correct what she did? You have 2 minutes to make. You're asked about it. But that's incorrect. That is why

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I'm here. I'm just kind of read it. So. It's a positive hit area of us. Lindsey Open in Minnesota just treated this to Saint Paul. She was kind of us could be in your book. You know. So my issue was on you and already the visit, our property. This is a property with 2.8 million dollars worth of damages. That's that was in April of last year, 2025. So this is just like Heritage Park over the North Minneapolis. So my issue is with also the main page property solutions,

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video of them stealing some of the materials of took from my house to Saint Paul to North Minneapolis heritage. Part these guys party this point in the garage and stole from us. He also stole from me at my home, which is tied to a steal. They come in. They say they're going to repair. Let's say the exhaust from exhaustion is still missing. Is all families to code and July. I moved in in June. I was coached out of my place in April when they checked from those for that property was denied 3.8 million worth of damages. They knew that when they called me a vulnerable of the law would have on which al to this

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property with the fraud housing company in this just just just company that vista. So they use us to pay all this money but won't repair nothing. So my daughter field earns on court. The judge very doesn't dismiss. My case was caught on camera, dismissed with prejudice just because I couldn't see or you can hear me on Sunday. So not my cases and trash. I'm here because I feel way mph. When he told us that the here to party that they don't pay for properties with this type of damage yet you still were all black and they're paying for. So how does that

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work? You know what I mean? So like when it comes to the law, got laws of growing up. If nothing's being respected, none of nobody's on the property wants to come here. Come to court because the way I'm getting retaliated on every violation after that, April, when I thought you Tra to actually court to stop them from coming to my house stemming from the I got video of the rules. So you're at time of year. Ask is of us. What is your ask? And? Well, I don't really know what my ask is, but I'm still fighting is what I'm saying. Keep fighting. And I'm trying to figure out where I go from here. So I came to the city of Saint Paul to find out where

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where do I go from here and the other people that are afraid to come here? They don't want to go into court rooms or anything like that where they go from here. We spent all winter with no heat, no hot water. You can sit in my daughter bit room just, you know, the hole in the ceiling that you're talking about. That's a league. But the inspector, too. There's others against Iran with the property he will not address. He's covering it up for them to electrical outlets that are popping. From the space heaters we had to use all doing any due to wrap up now. But I would ask that unclear so you can take a seat will talk about what you just chairman to sign an thank

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you so much. Is there anyone house here to testify on this item? See Na make a motion to close the public hearing all in favor say aye opposed 7 in favor. None opposed to public hearing is closed. All right. And we will take looks like they're a couple questions or comments. This bill, we yeah, I just have a just for the correction of the record because the pill it says. Andy McKenzie mentioned David McKenzie. I'm just wondering if he is the actual appellants are. This is a he's testifying. What else is back and wanted to make sure you heard that correctly. OK? Thank you. Thanks, Billy Johnson,

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OK and the moment, the. Mr. McKenzie, the owner of 63. So the key pen. Okay. So you're at but then 63 Kansas. Okay, I'm I'm happy my son because you and I but yes, you can make motion. But I do have a question for clarification. Well, it sounds to me like is that there are issues within the property that need to be corrected. And there's some dispute as to how those she's got there as to the payment for those issues. And as to the amount of time it's taken to get those issues

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corrected my nation and my motion will be to approve and deny the appeal, improve the legislative hearing officer's recommendation to grant until August 7th for compliance because I want the property owner to make these repairs and that is what this is ordering to be done. But I'm hearing Mr. Mackenzie say is that you're not going to stop fighting and you need help with the situation with your landlord and other things that are going on. And and think. Yeah. Thank you, sir. We can't we're not going to be more testimony. But what I'm gonna do is talk to you after this meeting so we can figure out how math is can be of help to you. But I don't think a way to help is to

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is to remove this responsibility. Property owner. I think we want this issue corrected and the city needs to stand with you and getting that distracted. So that would be my motion. And I know is that that's denying the appeal and I knew pl and okay. So that's my motion. Is there discussion of the motion as Johnson? Okay? Yeah. I appreciate that motion out of the support of of that motion. I think in part because I guess what I'm I'm wondering how do we get to the appeal process in which an occupant of a property has to you in order to get some of the concerns like that? So I am curious

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about like what happens afterwards because it is a unique situation in which the talent is not actually be when the owner tenant yet seems like they're not actually in a position to the to the peace here. But if mentioning more and more things that is wrong with the property, right. And then I heard you say that there has been no prior history of complaints on the property. So what about now? What happens afterwards? So when the August 7th it comes, they will re inspect if these items aren't done and that's up on the department to take further action, how they choose to do that

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kind of up to them. They could condemn it. They ordered vacated. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] This can yeah. Those aligned along. Let's make sure yesterday as well because we won the property owners who are responsible to fix the issues and I'm seeing it's a fire certificate of occupancy. So that means that if it is conduct or whatever the city cheese steak afterwards and saying that stand results, but that would then mean if that unit doesn't have a certificate of occupancy, that means it cannot be occupied. So I think

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like I'm supportive of this motion and in looking for to serve in the follow-up from our departments to ensure that they stick to this time line because I wrote down every 18 March 5th, April 9th May 8th. You know, I think what I'm hearing from the testifier, it's like what is that means the end here. So looking for to spread the motion. But just recognizing that without us about consistency, this unit can't be occupied. And that was it means that someone eats house so supportive of that of the question. So I see your hand. We're not gonna take public testimony. I will come talk to says we're done, though. And here you're further comments. Any further comments on this item from colleagues

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seeing none all in favor say Aye. I'll post 7 in favor nor opposed the resolution is adopted as amended this to me. Is there anything else to come before us for separate consideration? I don't believe that there's anything that they deserve that comes with a hole in the public hearing on all of us that had said we've not yet a public hearing on 43 49, if there is anyone else here to testify in any of the other items, this is your public hearing. Please come off, not seeing anyone. I will take a motion from his camp too close the public hearings and approve legislative hearing items with the emissions recommendations at a legislative hearing. Officer on

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favor say that. 7 in favor not oppose the legislative hearing. Consent agenda is adopted as amended. That brings us to the end of our agenda. I'm looking to my colleagues to see if there's any good news for news from the works. Sorry, I present to council president and this is in 2 weeks, however, is still wanted to share it ahead at the get ahead of the game and sharing at. And doing word budget event. It's going to be on Tuesday, July 21st from 06:00PM to 07:30PM, at the Hisa Park Recreation Center. It's an opportunity for reports. 6 presidents neighbors, too. A tennis committee conversation with me to learn of our city's budget, understand the

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opportunities and challenges ahead and share their priorities for hours. He pass future. Also the second he wanted to share that. As you all know, Hayden Heights libraries getting renovated right now. The public libraries is that they just put out a call for artists so that we can start taking applications from artists who want to share that they qualify for this project so that they can to the mural in the library. So it's going to be really exciting. You can check out the scene public library's website for more information. Thank you so much. Other good news. The news is just. Thank you. Notes President, I'll just share again that they Hamlin midway libraries opening

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Saturday, July 18th. The opening celebration is 10 30 to 30. So let's start with the story time. Hope everyone can come stop by the library officially opens at 10:00AM. that day. So you can come even earlier if you want. So see everybody there. And it's really exciting to see this finally, you know, coming to completion for the community. Thanks just just. Thank you. Council president in the Southeast commuter organization or sequel as we call it on the side because doing the housing forum on Monday night 6.30, to 8. We'll be joining commissioner

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my Jean Jean to talk a little bit about just quite a few different housing initiatives that are happening both at the city end of the county. And so we do this. We have done this, I think both years in the past, Missouri, their time around. But it's always great. Some was a full room with people were talking. Renters homeowners. Everyone can come. It's open to the public. It's at the Siegel office. 25 21. 0, 5, half brewed. I have all the Hudson wrote it. So in summary second, this and reset shopping center area, so you can come out and you always have food. So, you know, if they don't this time, you can blame me but to get. But you should be able to come out. It's open and it's

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from 6.30, again to 8 on Monday. Thanks to stop them. 2 quick things. I'm really excited to share that. We have the ribbon cutting today at the South Saint Anthony Park Park, which is 8 Indy Carmel Avenue. It's amazing and very excited to take my toddler there this weekend. Reckon checking it out. It's a really great new park and we excited and grateful for all the Parks department worked to make that happen. And the other item is that this Friday Mookie Council, the 10 is having their ice cream social. It's technically right past that for dinner in Ward 5 at the streaker station and that's Friday. You can see a lot of

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fun and a good way to cool down on a very, very healthy kind. S some some is going on any last can use. This is a last news, not from the wars actually more to downtown, but we excited. I think this is our first meeting, a rare second meeting where we have when I came from the has burned 3.70, building, but on the 4th floor. The there will be a. I magic night. Same Possum or edition is actually hosted by is consulting group that is at the front 3.70, in. It was a group of young guys who are super eager and excited to

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invite. As I said, I will not have the time to actually make. It was today at 5.30, to 9 0th floor, its experience where they're going to be demonstrating their AI products and people can work and interact with their AI products between 5.30, to 09:00PM. And they have on a quarterly basis Celtics kind. It's going to, you know, advertise what's going on at the Aspen. You're going to say there's a fizzy machine, but that would not really be that for. All right. Thank you all so much for the great news. And back today with that weird that

