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I know we've had some debate about whether replies Repair still going to do it in beautiful. Now they've suffered budget committee. So go ahead. By Sharon Councilmember care. Councilmember coming here, councilmember can. Councilmember Joe student, council PRESIDENT Maker here. All rght, 6 PRESIDENT And one expect to show up in Councilmember could. this is why we should not do the Srah Johnson. So just want to say and they said it have us be the first a budget committee that I have the privilege chair. Along with Vice chair. I'm super excited about this year your head. I also really appreciate the time that Office of Financial Services. Staff team have taken to actually be able to

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present today really just want to acknowledge that you guys when you're in bunch of different things right now. And so just want to say thank you for being here in person and also. For all of the work that had to go in the back for this presentation at a match. The jury presentation later on this afternoon. But Dr Logs and I just say thank you welcome. Thank Thank you so much. Chair Johnson and council members for having me today. Really appreciate it. And Laura lives deputy director of a fast before I jump into the presentation, I want to welcome Joe Hardy, who's our best director. And believe he'll be in front of council this afternoon to be sworn in. So you'll see him again soon.

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Joe? Station because now be like, I want to hear thunder prevent that. You know, I'm a call you up after It's all questions to best Great. I will. I will jump in. Are you seeing the power plant? We perfect. So today I'll be presenting information that the Council Budget Committee requested recently regarding the city's special fun Fte and the General Fund budget to Actuals for quarter one of 2026, I want to thank the budget team and the accounting team and our department finance leads across the department for their work on putting all this information together. So minister with a special fund fte is I provided the have

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detailed Excel spreadsheet. So you all have should have access that information. You can dig anything. Cut the data anyway. You want, but it's it's really useful. Really interesting data what we have in the 2026 adopted budget is 780 0, 3, 6, ft is funded and special funds and that represents 97.5 million dollars. Both salary and French those fte is paid fr really by diverse array of revenue. Sources and I've got some examples on this slide and the table at the bottom that shows the fte count the total cost fund tight and then examples of what those revenue sources are that are within funds. So one example, enterprise funds, enterprise funds are set up like business services. So that's like a

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police impound lot are parks, golf and our public works. Sewer fund. So on that revenue is paid for by fees that external users of those services are paying the city. So as you kind of dig that data, you'll find a lot. And other information about all the different revenue sources that are supporting those special to use across all of our science. we the budget. He marked with departments to identify. Which of those fund funding sources are ongoing versus one time and indicated and dates within that spreadsheet as well. So the vast majority 89%. 696 Ft. Yeas are supported by ongoing funding sources. 11% 80. Almost 84 Ft is are not ongoing sources,

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but the end dates for those services varies widely. So a lot of those are grant funded. Those grants could be ending next year and 3 years. Some of those SUVs are supported by opioid funds. We have a much time line and had a phase pays off plan for that. Patrons are available for the next 12 years. So there's a lot of variability in the data and and yeah, a lot to use in the city supported by a special Fund Inc. This slide provides a breakdown of just a quick note on the I think want some point. It'll be very helpful just kind of know all of those that are. And non ongoing. 83, you know, point to have to just as we're getting to a protein to the time. I like just kind knowing the one that funding lapses. And so just some of

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them, especially for those that are granted like yes, dollars and public safety aid. I know that one of the conversations last budget cycle we wear MAY notify, you know, we were notified that maybe the responding that we thought we were gonna get that we didn't get. And so just in advance of that, it would be really helpful to have have kind of like the breakdown of when we're expecting to do that when we're expecting for them to roll off of the funding cycle or there's any of that kind risks, peace again, of not being funded for the New Year. Sharon, sure, chair Johnson. So the spreadsheet currently has a column that indicates the end date for all of the sources. So it'll say in their the specific year. And that all of funding and so for like opioid funding at ces and in 2030. And so the

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grants should all indicate actual nda as well. And it's certainly through the budget process. Departments want those positions to continue with their intended to permanent positions. Departments would be bringing forward budget requests t, know, shift those fte is into other funding sources, you know, requesting federal funds like departments. We need to be bringing that forward in the budget process for sure. That's how we would. That's how he would address it. Okay. Thank you. Definitely. So this slide that it MAY cause a quick questions are stars thank you. I and it look that's me saying it will be The is the number special fund fte changed over time.

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Generally we've seen fte growth and I'm curious if there's if you have a ballpark of those numbers and if there's been a difference between special fund he growth versus Jennifer, that to growth. Share chair Johnson County, PRESIDENT Maker we I the top of my head, I can't say but all that information is at our annual budget books. So we could definitely pull out. There's a table in the annual huge annual budget and that shows total Fte special fund raises general fund so we could pull that together really quickly. Thank you. Any other questions? So on this this is still special fund if use for 2026. But this is a breakout by department. So you can see here and parks and public bricks have the greatest number of special phone fce I think he has the

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greatest percentage, a special fund of to use think 100% of pa staff are funded special funds. And you can also see there several departments that have no special fund that he is and all other people, under flight of the generous. And so that includes council emergency Management, hr mayors and otc. I'm the rate also included like a high-level summary of what those that use are doing. This isn't all inclusive because like in those departments to have a lot of that, he used that at a special fund. Public works and parks in particular. I tried to just like what are greatest number of Fte But

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there there folks doing other work as well. So for example, India Sai all 5 of to use team. And but, you know, and our special fund he's have crossed many divisions. All of our sleep team are funded at a special fund. Portion of the lse teams from a distance, portion of Treasury team funded a special friends, but not all of them. So this is just have a high-level representation of what our special fun Fte deputy director locks. And you know, you mention pd pd these operations. The special front of their funding from actually comes from a jury. That's correct. Right. The transfers come from the injury rate or says within injuries budget. Sorry, could you repeat that? The funding sources and within the injuries budget or beach or a

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transfer just wanted to? It says the funding sources and such here that's ld be able to clarify that piece. Yeah, definitely. Thanks Johnson. So pd. These are funded with a variety of sources. Definitely. The hra is the main source. There's also feeling that happens to the city General So we'll see that when we get into a budget to actual is theirs. About $800,000 general fund that supports pt operations. There's also a lot of grants pd manages federal grants and a lot of their fte time as they getting charged to those federal grants as well. And just as a follow up just how much of the p is operation over operation concept to ease are covered over with the jury. Finding. and I don't kow what's happened. My head I to be Director Green is here. If she

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would like to speak to that, but I would to. The deputy staff or I can get that answer after its. Okay. Yeah. I just think from the amount would be helpful to know the the f d costs because I think it's actually a majority. But thank Deputy director. You can approach. And exact number, I I know we have like 6 to 7. They get a partial hide its. And then. Outside of that, I believe the number of Fte. Fully funded, so to speak across all of sources. 16 somewhere in the 60 range. But if you have Brian has that information can percent information. Thank you. Next, I'm going to move

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into budget to actual so I but there any other questions related to special friend Fts? Sounds good. So for quarter one, 2026 budget actuals. What we're seeing right now for spending and revenues that's very similar to where we where in 2025 at this time in terms have percentage of our budget. When we look at budget to actuals have at any given point during the year, there's a few kind of kep things timing issues to keep in mind. I have those listed on the slide. So first, there's always a payroll ag. We get paid, you know, 2 weeks after the and they're kind payroll is on two-week lag. And then there's another one to 2 weeks before actions reflected in and for so there's always a

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bit of a lag there in terms of payroll transfers occur at various times throughout the year have depended on the department and the business needs. So certain transfers occur frequently like I that payment transfers. Another chance for is only occur. You know, once a year and the year internal bills and charges also vary throughout the year. Again, depending on. Department needs business needs certain essential service charges for ut I 9 at which are technology-related. Those occur monthly departments manage their internal bills and and they can be billing monthly twice-a-year quarterly annually. So there's a lot of variability. And when filling occurs. And then internal services, some monthly

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internal service charges can be delayed at the beginning of each year because we're on a - delay of when we start closing each So at the beginning of each calendar year, we're still closing DECEMBER of the prior year and that takes a few months. And then once December's close, we start closing JANUARY of the current year and then we had to get caught up in year. So there is just some things, kind of timing delays and things to keep in mind. Anytime you're looking at budget to actual us. This slide, I've got the General fund budget to actuals in terms of our spending and on the whole. We're at 24% of budget which is very similar to last year. We're at 22% at this time. I have noted on the few explanations for outliers. So the first one emergency management and they've spent, you know, 86% of the general

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budget so far. That's only because the vast majority of the General Fund budget is a onetime annual payments. We make sure Ramsey County for dispatch services. So that's right. And made 5.5 million dollars. So the rest of general fund budget just for staff. And that's so very normal. Excuse me. And the general government accounts currently specific line is a little inflated because all of our indirect costs are sitting in that kind department rght now and those get allocated out to all the other difference. Once we start a month and close process for the year. So the total stand is accurate. It just will pushed out. All the other departments soon. And then the

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last and there's that the that we were just talking about previously, that 870,000 is an admin fee. To support pd. And department will be submitting those internal bills according to practices, really. And we have 2 questions that I council PRESIDENT Acre and comes from Thanks for Johnson. 2 questions, one, the do we have a budget. Year-to-date column? I feel like it's always very helpful to be able to see. Well, expect it to spent by now versus what we spent by now, not just what we would expect to spend by the end of the year. Just to your point to kind highlight whether or not things are moving as expected or That's one question. And then to be concerned, I know the mayor's budget. It looks like it's 43%

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spent at this point. And there is in that company know to explain why that is. Curious if you can speak to that. Sure. First question the budget year today, there's this. The budget is annual. So we could manually just go and divided by 12 and say this would be if we had kind of standard consistent spending and revenue each month. This is what it would But those factors that I noted in the previous slide of, you know, certain transfers and charges only happened, you know, once per year like it wouldn't exactly reflect reality. The closest is probably our payroll, which is the vast majority of our spending is payroll. So we could look specifically at employee expenses, divide that total budget by 12 and compared to that, and that would be a pretty good indicator. Just as

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a quick follow-up you here at that's that's actually kind of what I'm getting at. I mean, I we can divide by where we should be at this point. But given there certain expenses that happen, for example, that payment to the county in this 1st quarter, the budget year to date for that line would show that we would expect to spent, you know, most of the budget by now. And so it would it would look right budget year to date with look aligned rather than looking like we've spent 86% our budget should done that I've been I know that this is a standard practice and loss of the boards that I sit on, that that your to date line and maybe it's not a government, but it just feels like it. Helps set the expectation reality accordingly. To make it something we can look at for the future. Jay, thank you. Chair Johnson Council PRESIDENT To your second question, the mayor's office that spending is a little

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higher than normal because of administration. Severance payments, vacation payouts, which are all normal, but basically, you know, only once every 8 years 12 years or 4 years. When administration changes. So that's why that's a little hgher. And the bonus pats part of that as well. All payouts to staff at left are included in that. Are we concerned about trying ensure that this will? This Leave the mayor's budget mayor without enough budget to make it through the year. Chad Johnson Council PRESIDENT, the mayor's office has made all of hires that had intended to make. They worked really closely with assassin with a child when they're making those hires and looking at staff salaries. We tld them this is what the 26 adopted budget is.

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There was now restrictions placed on them if they're hiring. We talked about how the mayor's office budget might be a little over spent this year because of kind of the typical payments that occur when a ministrations change. But that's something that the city can manage on the whole and can manage the general fund. All we have several departments that overspend every year in several departments that understand every year. So we have no concerns about managing I think it is a ball up just a one the things that I think would be really, really helpful for us as well. Just the hour. I think everyone here is aware of the public news articles and the public mentioning around the mayor's budget overall and just potentially some of the pieces

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and questions that still remain if we could get a staff. But just a breakdown of what that actually translated to as far as like employees are staff like what was the payout in bonuses and then also the justification for those bnuses and being able to see out of the mayor's budget committee helpful just because I know for me about that, something that still very interested in seeing that haven't seen. And so that's not something that I expect for you to. Have to say today. That's more so follow-up that I wanted to note for the record. Sheriff Terry Johnson. And that would be requests a hr managers, that process. So. The expenditures and just like what amounts for would be a juror. Yes, okay. Yeah. It's all and contracts. So hr management process. Okay. Wonderful. We can follow up and come with hr and make

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requests. Sorry. Councilmember thank you, chair. Thank Lves in council PRESIDENT. You're actually asked like pretty much all my questions and follow-up questions. Thank you for doing that. Mike, I do want to clarify so you mentioned, you know, the majority of these State Department budgets and what we've seen expenditures are staff time except for a few of these specific cases. So for most of these departments, except for the ones where their notes can we expect to see the budget? This is kind of Flip Cup tells PRESIDENT Was touching on. But, you know, around 25% because where, you know, a quarter of the way through the year that they would increase that way. Just with the majority, the expenditures being salaries. Is that what you would we can expect to see basically.

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Yeah, chair Council Yes, with some qualifications. You know there there are certain department general fund budgets that do include transfers to special funds that are not secifically for Fte is and that's transfers occur. You thank you 3 to 4. Some some qualifications. But generally the vast majority of general fund spending as draft. He is. So that's why I'm a whole. We're at 24%. Thanks. And I'll just and I really appreciate all this information and everything you just said about some transfers occur in certain quarters. I think as I'm learning more about, you know, the budget and how it actually works and how expended throughout the year, just even understand. That's really helpful. So I'm grateful for. Information

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being shared today. Next, revenue. so o this side, we can see our q one revenue is for 2026. Right now at 4%, which is pretty comparable to last year when you're at 7% at this time, the reason revenue and q one is so different than spending and q one is because our major revenue source is don't come in and q once or property tax are first property tax payment from the county comes in at the end of MAY and our first local government aid or lga from the state comes in in JULY. So thank you to you and you 3. That's when you'll start to see revenue drastically increase. So this is very normal. I again, have us. You know, it's about outliers So for both general government

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and library, that's where we'll see the property taxes and lga come So it's the same note there. Then the other outliers right now is So all of our interest payments so far this year, they al get deposited in all us at first. And then as we do I think those process it gets distributed out to departments. Another finds so so as sb had, you know, 200% of budget right now is is not accurate. It's just because we haven't done that. I mean, you're in month and close process yet. And then certain departments do not generate general fund revenue. So that's also I see a question Councilmember Coleman. Thank you. Chair switch to future chair question with the county delaying or offering ability to extend property tax payments by 2 months. That has

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any impact to So we still expect a payment on schedule, but that potentially a second payment. So her friend just to double check Fisher. Cherry Johnson Johnson recalled Yes, we will still be getting a payment from the county at the end of MAY. They have been sending us updates on that program that they've that take, I think, has been somewhat low. So the Saint Paul pretty low. I think it's in tens of thousands. So it's not going to have a major impact on our first property tax payment or I think annual property taxes. Council PRESIDENT Maker thanks to Johnson, can you remind us of sources of the revenue that come into the city attorney's office, the council and the mayor's

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office. Sure, I chair Johnson accounts present. Do my best the my head, we can definitely follow with more specifics. The city attorney gets some revenue from outside sources that are paying for city Attorney services. So they contract with. 2 ph a public housing as well as Port authority. And so those are some sources there. 4 council and the mayor's office I you just follow up and I want to right decision judges Thank you. Well, I really appreciate just kind of being able to get a glimpse of this. I know this is our first one rate 4 that way. We'll ultimately have for this year continuing. And so just one of the things that's really important that we had

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to have a starting point. So I think, you know, the feedback that was received just additional columns or additional information that would be helpful. Re like deputy director lots responded to their initial request that came from council what this look like. And so we're able to really, you know, expand that change that as we go forward, especially to get information that we ultimately are looking to see when we have enough time to do so. So if you know, and I think it would be curious as well, too. The office team to kind of know. Based what we've been able to see, hear what the feedback is. And that's that's that's what we're looking at and what wanting this conversation to be like moving forward. And so I just want to say, but the questions that were put in front of fast 2%.

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This is exactly what you know, that what myself was chair. You know what mood has communicated. And so just was really happy when seen jus the numbers in hand. It's really just double it. Yes, that brings on questions and brings about a number say Jen, but I think that's the purpose of why we wanted the budget axles in the first place. I will say a shameless plug in the sense that great Saint Paul is Ment has maintained or triple a rating standard here from Fitch and s and p and they reaffirmed a rating which ultimately feel like is a testament to the work that you all are doing. And it's quite the achievement. And so just want to name that as well that I have in front of me and I have the team as well because that's something that I know. We worked really hard to maintain. So to your credit and that when we get into the to midst of everything we most

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of last year was under your leadership. And I do want to take a minute to acknowledge that, especially as someone who stepped up to serve in an interim time, especially when there was just so many anomalies. So I want to thank you for your supper your service as well as an interim director and thank you. And I look forward to being able to with you in your capacity as deputy director as well. Thank you. Thank you. Chair Johnson. That's super super generous. Yeah, we we're so with how the presentations the rating agencies and felt like we had a really great story and strong message to freeing of how Saint Paul manage through like immense challenges last year. But you never really know. I'm going in like how they're going that. And even our most

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critical radar, which is snp was just like really impressed and really on our team. I really on our side and so it felt like such a huge testament to the work of our whole team. Everybody in the city decisions at the Council of Need and the mayor so just yeah, super super pleased to get through what it like. Huge challenge we faced last year and to come out with these outside entities acknowledging like Saint Paul is a great city. You should invest yourself. Feels really good thank Lee. No questions left, but thank you so much for being here and being able to do that if people have questions. We did just things. Can you deny Vice Chair Yang are really asking for folks to kind of be able to one. Yes, you can share them

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with past, but also you've got share them with us so we can start to compile those so that we can get it in one form versus multiple different requests that are coming from council members. So if you have questions or you think of something that you every especially to the dependents as well or the attachment, which I thought was really helpful when it caved gave you the breakdown and by funding source don't hesitate to reach out to us as well. So we can hopefully put it on the list. Second pilot and one request for says many. Okay. The budget committees go something that I'm going to bring on the agenda for both this month you'll see it again in MAY, in part because what our goals will be as we continue to kind of go for the year. Is to one get the right

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budget retreat and then to also from budget retreat, start to have presentations and our calendars. And ultimately for folks are really kind of know where the budget. Where the budget Committee will be ultimately going and what presentations will be, which and health and what date. And so this agenda item really will be back next. You'll see it again on the next agenda. And in part, that's going to be purpose and set up putting a list of counter counter gates in front of you without the topics to this time. I really just wanted to be able to kind of hold that here, that person's withdraw and then also be able to share councilmembers kind of what to expect moving forward when it comes to budget dates and presentations. So I know that some council members have to be sent a it is a presentation

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requests last year committed and I will need that again this year. And so and part as a follow up from the retreats are just information that you've seen maybe haven't seen presented. We did get the full list from ice Cherry gang at the time as well around what things are still pending. And some of those are still captive for the year. So it MAY already be scheduled, but there are several links are several opportunities for the budget committee can still fit and presentations still fit and requests. And so we want to be able to do that in a way that also response to what comes up out of the budget retreat. Yes, come PRESIDENT, MADAM Chair. If we just to be clear, if we sent, I suggestions or requests for budget committee topics too. At the time carrying. Are you saying that those hve been calendar that you need them sent Yes, they so, sir.

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Yes, they have been accounted for and we have the list from previous year and they're still within that list. Several things that are not scheduled several things that several days that are available with things that scheduled. But yes, And the like next meeting will be presentation on the biannual budget budgeting coming from Anson County. Right? From a Yes. And so that will be a part of it because it's been accounts priority long before I became chair. And so that was a request that were acting on that has been confirmed. We have another confirmation, I think in JUNE as well data for just to kind of like which presentations that we us. Thank yu. Chair Johnson. So for the month of JULY, we have a presentation can phone by Duck. This isn't Ballard. She

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is state demographic for the state. She's the Democrat chief demographics. She's the chief of the demographic Center State of Minnesota. She would be JULY. 90nd to biz and analysis on demographic data. And then Ramsey County is coming on and then county is coming on. MAY 13th David, to be doing a presentation on biennium budget approach. Looks like the county is fun funneling biennium budget process and they would be here to share perspective on how does that work? Thank you. Thank you. Yes, come protect also wondering that about. Proper checks, trends that we usually get from Ramsey County. Is that also? Could that be requested at some point as well? This is interesting. Have the demographic information on the property tax trends together. Yeah, so want have to go back to the initial request was made to the Ramsey County

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team to make sure that they can if they can at that and if not, will get rescheduled and put Thank you chair. One thing that was discussed, I our mentioned multiple times last with through this process was what's the cost of doing business? Just for the city to keep the lights on for us to have staff of just finished a negotiating. A lot of our labor contracts. I was pattern language. And so recognizing that we have cost of living adjustments every single year, sort of the inflation of, you know, cost doing this is like what? What's baseline look like for every single department. And then what does that look like in terms of a minimum levy? We Max Levy, but I think could be really interesting for the city to

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start a conversation that at a minimum for the city to have the lights on and have in seats. We have to pass a minimum levy of one percent. And so for me personally, that's a question that I'm going to be lifting up and hopefully asking all submit those questions to Her Johnson for te budget processes here. But I'm really interested in that in the way that I think. There is an opportunity for us to I want to say, like educate the electorate or residents, but just like, how do we provide more information that helps them contextualize the vote that we take when we set the maximum fee. So just share with my colleagues. That's one of Michaels for this process this year and looking forward to working with you. Johnson and District Council council PRESIDENT. Did you have a follow-up? I know if I raise my hand many accounts for thought. I

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saw hand out. Johnson Ridge, Yeah. I chaired a thank you. I wanted respond customer Kim's comment. I think the idea of understanding sort of a minimum levee is is really like or even with that range looks like is really important because I do think that the public, you know, doesn't fully understand kind of what all this means as many times as we try to tell them that, you know, this is the cost of doing business in the city. This is the cost of operating our city. I don't remember the exact numbers last year, but I did try to think about that for myself. But I I remember if you know, we get we get figures from us in their first presentation where they say this is how much you know, the staff increases are for the

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year. And I remember in my head looking at that if we wanted to just cover those without making any cuts about doing anything, we would have looking at a levy of like over 10%. And so there were, you know, cuts me. They were of money moved around. There were things added, but it's it's very challenging. I think tat that's something that, you know, our community members don't necessarily fully appreciate, but that usually results. And, you know, the mayor last year, basically, you know, asking departments to consider a certain kind so that we could bring that number number down. Council, I'm ready. really appreciate the conversation and this can how you brought it up multiple times last year as well. And I think when I hear is about and I think we need to identify a little bit more clearly is. Because in some ways the cost of doing business that is this

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is the budget. That is the cost of doing business. I think there's a difference between. What would what our budget need t be next year. If we just kept everything the same. And didn't add anything, you like that one number. And I think that is really helpful to communicate to people like this is just what happened to last year's budget because of inflation because of contracts, whatever, but then sort of also hear what you're saying is can this other question, which is different, which is? Kind of minimum viable product of the city of Saint Paul. And you could argue that we're above that right now is a city. But in some ways, I don't know how we it's that kind of up to us to determine what should the city be doing. I'm curious how you or others, butts in seats. Depending on the program. We're and we might need more about some see it. So how do we define what that minimum

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viable product is Councilmember Kim, thank you, chair. I think just at that, too, because there like yes. And then what's that number? And then with the grants and things that we used to supplement. Like alleviating the Levy on the tax base slaying. It's like what's the big starting waiting to consular? Just plain rain like to just to this is higher than the number Ghana. We would even levy because we have all these additions. But just like, how are we helping work? Work through that number to show to show kind of like the ad how to be even bought this made because last year we were talking about it. We have a 23 million dollar budget deficit, right? But we never really kind of got to see you all. This helps break it down. This helps break it down. This helps break it down right?

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Some even thinking about in terms of like. Process and also write the minimum viable product and then also recognizing that it's a it a value staff and of priorities. And so I think here has the PRESIDENT Say in addition to this is like as a council, what is our sort of minimal viable product for the city as we establish our budget is, well, what are our priorities and what's that budget look like? So really excited for this conversation in general. But just thinking about the ways that we we talk about the budget this year, but also had to show our masks residents. I think it's just interesting and also 100% Yeah, I really appreciate just kind of like the the overall discussion, especially the ones that kind of encourage us to dig deeper as policymakers and folks who have te authority rate ultimately at the end of the

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year, 2 set at budget fr 2027. And I think, you know, especially as thinking about what the city should and should not be doing at that is really like what I think around the the budget. Especially this year, we have several federal dollars that are rolling off of our revenue source and or write special funds that. Should be in Pierre expended by the end of the year because there money really originated from Arpa funding. Ad so they'll be a lot of discussion around what we keep that we don't keep. But I think that those discussions are what can happen with us as well. So as with in partnership with the mayor's office and that very well also might, you know, dictate what things we continue, things we don't continue and how much those things cost in order to

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continue them, especially if they're currently grant or currently funded by something other than the levee itself. And so that's going to be really something that we watch this year, too. And I think more importantly, just educate ourselves about. That's part of why being able to ask today just for some breakdowns of the employees like the numbers of employees that we carry on special fund dollars is really important in the sense right? We have 2000 employees, 700 of them are through special $5 and not currently on the levee. Not currently in general fund dollars for whatever reason or, you know, some of them have life spans of funding for 10 years. Others are real enough. This year and those will be a really, you know, the urgency

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level operate within the departments themselves to in trying to find external sources as well. S as whether or not the role the entire office protect on to the general fund or not. So there's just certain revenue sources that we can outline to. But I think that's where a lot of this information is going to be important to gather as we along, which is why I'm actually really excited about the continued, but activists conversation, but also the reporting that comes with it because it just helped her better communication with the administration. So item will be back of this item will be back next month when we had to just having a little bit more Presentation holds as well. See this to the dates and what we're anticipating and who we're bringing forward. I will say that can move. He's already done a phenomenal job of outlining the department's. So

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we are prepared with the presentation schedule for budget. Once the mayor has done her dress. So him from departments has already out lineup, which states will be which and so for the 2nd half of the year, there actually are quite a few dates that we've identified ae ready because coming an a COUNCILMAN, very gang and Kim were able to do that ahead of time. So just really awesome. And I only have few to fill and not like all the years. Sometimes. We have about 3 minutes or so before I want to head us over to it is and the team we have some time Councilmember. I so. Yeah, we have more time than I I have 45 minutes in my head. But that's because he's an internal what I want to pe

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she on having this early on. So we can have kind of these like Hannah conversations around the approach. The budget I just wanted to. And one of things I really appreciate from last year's budget processes have external partners present to give us more so independent overview. And a fresh look at the budget because I do think, you know, especially for some of the senior long-lasting councilmembers like my my Kylie PRESIDENT, make sure that I do see like you can get into a pattern, right wears like the directors giving the proposals that's coming directly from the mayor is not really a lot of like. Time your wiggle room really look at like the concrete cost of doing business. And I would love havoc analysis, particularly around like the income levels of our residents her neighborhood. And also just see, like, where's their

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earning potential rate ad we're pain points. And like what commercial corridors are actually like what what each corridor is generating because there's a cost of doing business. But then there's also the investment to our cities and our businesses. They actually we depend on those those revenues of sales tax, a property taxes. So I really would love for us to have a I thought partner along the way in terms of how our investments I to city is actually giving us a higher return on investment. And I'm thinking about that. Intentionally. Also, the last thing I want to just mention as well I would love to track like, you know, what is our top revenue generators? I do think this is a ballpark in terms of like which department, but even within

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each department like where? Where ways that we can be actually investing more into a department or program are. A service. That's actually, you know, we're seeing, you know, higher revenue sources just because like mentioned, Chair Johnson, like we're going to be seeing a lot already been seeing lots of cuts on the federal level. So I think cities across the country looking at more creative ways and equitable ways in terms of generating record revenue in now, how are we leaning on the state? And be more proactive in terms of like, you know, our policy muscles to be able to get more support from the state in the foot. Thank you. Councilmember Well, seeing no

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other hands. I want to say. Glad that they had to get the Budget Committee, that we are adjourned.