--------- With liberty and justice for all. Uh, city clerk, can I have a roll call? Vice Mayor Marriott here. Lisa Commissioner Robinson here. Commissioner Maldonado here. And Mayor Petrilla here.
We have a quorum. Thanks. All right. So, uh, tonight we have the budget workshop. I think you're up, Devin. Yes. Good afternoon, um, mayor and commissioners. Uh, Devin Schmidt, finance director for the city of St. Pete Beach. Um, we'll be taking you
through the proposed preliminary, um, budget workshop. And so, uh, to kick off, um, I did want to start off with saying that we're going to focus primarily on our operating personnel revenues. Since we've already spent um two workshops on our capital projects,
we will respond to the um recommendations from the finance budget review committee and the changes that was requested of the commission since the last time we met. So, we will focus on some of those parts. As I take you through this presentation, you will see um that we're not going to cover every
single page of the budget book. um we would probably be here all night, but we will be highlighting certain sections of those pages with a um emphasis and focus on the budgetary numbers and figures. So, to kick it off, I think it's important for the commission and the
community to understand um just the process that we've taken with this 2026 proposed budget. So, staff started with the process in April. Um then it went through our finance budget review committee with our workshop number one and then our workshop number one came to
the commission staff worked to incorporate any of those changes um and develop the person while developing the personnel and operating budgets um for the 2026 budget. From there we brought back an updated revised capital um
projects list for the finance budget review committee to review and then the commission. And then from there, um, staff went through and implemented any of those recommended changes. And while we were doing that, um, each department met with the city manager and the
finance team to go through every single line item in the budget and every single contract that's included in there. So, um, that was the opportunity for the departments to go through for our city manager um, to request any changes. And so here we are today um with the
workshop number three. Um we did go through the finance budget review committee last week and we have their um recommendations or questions that they may have had on this first pass. Um after this we'll do the same thing again where we take any um requests of this
commission um and incorporate that in the next iteration and then um we'll be back in July with what that looks like. So again, the opportunities for public participation, lots of opportunities for commission input. Um, so just wanted to kind of highlight that process and kind
of where we've been as we've been working through this 26 uh preliminary proposed budget. So, as we're looking at the finance budget review committee um recommendation and comments that we received on July 2nd, um some of those
initial comments around there was really around financial oversight. And so, the question came up if a department is asking for a budget, you know, what are we doing to ensure that they're going to spend it or that we're not um padding the budget, if you will. So we have worked with each one of the department
directors for them to understand um don't ask for it if you're not going to spend it. So so that that's a capital projects that's operating and then we're going to start putting in a metric of having a target of 96% budget accuracy. So um we want each department to try to
get to that 96%. There was questions around um or comments around the revenue and the fee structure. So, a question was raised whether or not residents should be charged um for parking. Um another question was clarification around
parking uh the parking transfer which I'll cover in some of these other slides and then credit card fees. Um currently the city pays for those consumer um convenience fees anytime a credit card is swiped um within the city. So, couple recommendations there around the
residents. Um we are undergoing a fee study currently and so um all everything is going to be looked at with the fee study and as far as the credit card fees the recommendation from the finance budget review committee was to pass that on to the consumers like our peer
communities are doing specifically for parking. So that is something we'll be looking at. Um there was a question around whether or not our recreation fee projections and our revenue estimates um with the current state of our rec center
are um accurate or not too aggressive. Uh we did reduce some of those down but we'll continue to monitor those for accuracy and our recreation department is currently working to um reestablish a gym over there so that we can uh have
that service uh back on track for our residents. when we're looking at taxation in those classifications. Um at our next meeting for workshop number four, we will bring back um you know what is our advalorum tax picture look
like from a residential versus a commercial and what are those different categories as we're looking through that? How many of those are homestead versus non-homestead? So we will bring that for the commission. Um, some other thoughts came up with
internship opportunities. So, looking at some opportunities within public services, if we could establish some civil engineering programs for public services. Um, there was a question around our electricity and if there's an opportunity for our procurement department to look at bidding that out.
Um, currently Duke is the regional monopoly for that service. So, um, that was our response to that question. um for fine revenue allocation. So, we're going to do some further investigation as to whether or not if somebody's issued a ticket from Penllis County,
whether that comes back to the city or not. And then um when we're looking at some um ghost plates, so investigating if there's a potential fee collection related to unregistered or improperly tagged vehicles. So, those are some
follow-up items that we have in our community programs and compensation. Um we did there was a proposal made to um double the compensation for elected officials um but bring back additional data uh from comparable communities
looking at what's the population of that community, what's their budget size, what's the city size, and then what messaging and strategies would be brought back for the finance budget review committee. Um suggestions included increasing parking rates and enhancing code enforcement to generate
additional revenue. things like dogs on the beaches and um those types of things. And then beautifification grants um determine whether we could have some funding available for residents and businesses under those beautifification grants that were um previously offered.
And finally um there was a question around whether or not we receive revenue for beach weddings and beach weddings are permitted so we do receive revenue for those. So moving on, this is our organizational chart as it uh stands today with our
preliminary proposed budget book. So just wanted to um show how the structure and what that reporting structure and the fund structure how that relates back into our budget. I'm going to take the commission now through some of our financial summaries. Um these are meant to be very high level
the total budget picture for the city of St. Pete. So as you can see here that our largest uh revenue generating fund is the general fund um followed by our wastewater and our capital fund and then parking. Our wastewater and our capital
fund um do show up as the second largest revenue um revenues by fund because of those transfers that were currently offset from the general fund. So, I'll take a deeper dive into that later, but I just wanted to provide that very high level overview
as we're looking at our expenditures. Um, those are quite in line with what we just saw on the last slide. So, again, general fund at 40%, our capital projects fund at 25% followed by our wastewater fund at 19.8 18%.
This is an highlevel overview um and just a different kind of way to look at what those different funds are showing. So when we're looking at our governmental funds that includes our general fund, our building fund, resiliency, multimodal, capital, and fleet.
And in our enterprise funds, um these are wastewater reclaimed water, storm water, and parking was a new fund that we created as part of this budget process for 2026. So we'll take a little deeper dive into each one of these but wanted to provide kind of a highle
overview for the commission. Similarly um when we're looking at our operating and capital analysis by fund um this is a snapshot of some of where some of those revenues coming from what those other outflows are and then what
we're looking at for other sources. So those other sources is going to be those transfers that we're making from the general fund over to some of those enterprise funds. Oops. Okay. So we're going to take a dive first off into our governmental funds
and we're going to start off with the general fund. So I highlighted on this slide for the commission to see that our financial adviserss and one of the best practices is that we should be looking at a two to three months reserve. um for operating expenditures as a
recommendation um for any sort of emergency that the city may encounter. Now, we do know um from Helen and Milton that that was closer to $9 million in expenditures. And so we will be bringing back a policy for the finance budget
review committee to see first and then the commission as well to determine what is a good fund balance policy that the commission is comfortable with so that we're able to respond in any emergency and stay fiscally solvent.
So this is taking a dive into um really where those revenues come from in the general fund. So you can see about 50% is taxes um followed by our miscellaneous revenues. This is currently a placeholder as that is
actually our parking transfer and I'll take it take us through that here in a minute. Um and then you can see that we have a small slice of the pie for charges and services. This is going to be anything that exists within our recreation or our aquatics programs. Intergovernmental revenues is going to
be um any things that are grants or anything that we're getting from Panelis County and then our permit and fees and special assessments is a smaller slice of the bucket as well. So this is a little small but um this was hot off the press when we met with
the finance budget review committee. Um you can see St. Pete Beach is highlighted there. So you can see our total taxable value and then our millage rate and how we come up with our ad valorum um budgetary revenue that the city should expect to receive every
year. We took this a little bit of a step further this year and that we looked at when the city of St. Pete Beach typically receives those advalorum revenues and how our residents are um pro providing or paying for those advalorum revenues. So we learned that
about 70% of our residents and businesses, anyone that's paying that advorum tax actually um pays in November to receive that 4% discount rate. So we did apply that 4% discount rate to our
overall budgetary revenue that we expect to receive, which would put us at that $15.1 million. So this is our current estimate today. Um other things that we're looking at is, you know, how many homes are um vacant and would not have
to pay those property taxes. Right now it's about 91 homes that could um apply to not pay for those property taxes. So those are factors as we're looking at the budget where we're really trying to get to that 96% accuracy. So some highlights or some assumptions
and changes that you'll see. So taxes and fees, those are calculated on the prior year's historical. So we went back and looked on a month-to-month basis when are we receiving those taxes and those fees. And then we looked at the year prior as well. So we could have a
good determination about what is the history telling us um and what are what are those SP revenues that we're um in receiving as a city. Then we looked at our insurance proceeds. So working with our insurance provider, um this is assuming that the current
indemnification estimates come true. So anywhere where one of our buildings or facilities was damaged by one of the hurricanes, how much do we expect to receive back in? And you'll see that as a transfer out to our capital funds. And then we worked with our partners to
determine for our category A and B reimbursements, which is for debris and debris monitoring, how much do we expect to receive in the next 12 to 18 months. And so that's included in this factor as well because that's really bringing our general fund um whole again from those
expenditures that we paid out. And then I touched on this briefly, but our parking revenue um from from our new parking fund, we are transferring $3.2 2 million back into the general fund and the intention there is how can we look at covering things like streets,
beaches, parks and a portion of our public safety contract. So um those are a couple of the large assumptions. So you can see here um when we're looking at our 2025 actual the largest is our
property tax receivable. Um, so that's where that budgetary figure on the advalorum taxes, we're continuing to look at what those estimates should be. And so we'll continue to bring that back to the commission. As we're looking at some of those other areas, you can see under our federal
grant FEMA reimbursement, we have about $4 million where we expect to receive that category A and B reimbursement sooner. And then I did want to highlight under those admin fees um from building wastewater reclaimed water and storm
water. Those are um transfers back into the general fund for areas where things like internal services for humans human resources, finance, city attorney's office, city manager, um it where we're supporting those enterprise funds and
it's a cost allocation back into the uh general fund. So that is an internal transfer that we do internally and so you'll see that for that 2025 actual that will be that exact budgetary figure. As we're looking at our next slide here
you can see um under that miscellaneous revenues we are going to break this out and have a separate line item. Um to be honest I was fighting with the software at at 10:30 at night and I said let's just put it here and we have it. So, we will have that um brought back for the
commission to see, but that is where we're looking to supplement um those options. And then from our insurance recovery, we're looking at about $2.6 million back for any of the areas where um they're looking to indemnify us and bring us whole again. The county EMS
reimbursement is another large bucket of funding and that covers approximately 50% of our um EMS and fire services. Um, so that is also a larger bucket of funding. And then a lot of these smaller items,
um, the commission will see that we worked to break out, um, pool and recreations. And so we can show what that cost recovery is when we're looking at some of our, um, recreation and aquatics programs throughout the budget.
Okay. So, we're going to switch gears a little bit here and look at our expenditures. So, some of our assumptions that are incorporated in this preliminary proposed budget, um, we do have a 2.6 cost of living adjustment for positions. This is based off of the May CPI. We will continue and when June
comes out, we'll look and see if that's gone up or gone down and we'll adjust accordingly. We have currently no increase in employee benefits. Um, the experience the city did have a experience a good claims um, which resulted in a flat cost. Now the commission might be
wondering why we're showing the um benefits as an increase this year. Um so what we are doing to date is depending on if an employee elected a single plan, a family plan or um just self that we
are showing truly what they currently have elected in the budget. what we are going to be proposing is more of a per employee per month model um which is looking at not necessarily their current elections but it gives the opportunity
for us to have a flat budget. So if you have five employees in a specific budget then you would be able to calculate that against that per employee per month instead of what the employee actually elected for benefits. It provides an opportunity because benefits are always changing, people are changing, so it
provides us an opportunity to have a more um inline budget and a more accurate budget as we move forward. Um, currently workers compensation and property casualty does include a 27% increase. Um, we were told that this is
a worst case scenario. Um, and we're currently working with the provider to determine if a different deductible strategy would help us decrease that cost down. Um, and that's based on uh claims and obviously the hurricanes had impacts to what that property casualty
looks like for the city. We're also um one of kind of our best practices, you'll hear me talk about that a lot. Um we are moving to shift our fleet and facilities as well as our repair and maintenance and our IT related it items to be controlled by
those departments that are the subject matter experts in that. So with that um you will see some shifts where our fleet for example uh would become almost a lease program through our fleet department. So they're the experts. they know how much
preventative maintenance should happen, when we need to replace that vehicle, what the replacement cycle is different for a firet truck versus an administrative vehicle. And so that's where you're going to start seeing us not only have them manage it, but also plan for the future so that we're
putting money in so that by the time it needs to be replaced, we have that funding already set aside. And you'll see us do this with the capital programs as well in future years. Okay. So our expenditure summary um primarily you can see here that uh
personnel services which is inclusive of our benefits and our is one of the higher larger buckets followed by other uses which is going to be those transfers out um to the enterprise funds and then our overall operating
expenditures and expenses. So taking a dive kind of looking at um what makes up the composition of our general fund. We have the largest area um is fire and EMS followed by that non-EP departmental which again is that
transfer out to those enterprise funds. Um and then you can see public services is a large uh portion of expenditures there and our law enforcement contract that we have. So these next slides, I'm going to try to blaze through them because I know we've got a lot to cover today and this
is on a more departmental lens. So if we were to zoom in on each one of those buckets that I just talked about, um I'll stop and try to highlight if we have something that is a larger variance, but otherwise I'm going to try to scream through them. So we've got the city commission here first. Not a lot of
changes here um for the city commission. Um city clerk again, not a lot of changes here. We did have a request for reclassification um for an executive assistant instead of a administrative assistant. So that is one item.
City manager um not a lot of changes here for the city manager's office. One item that we did include those internships that we were talking about earlier with the way of public services. This is looking at having two internship potentials under our professional and
contractual. So the the mon monetary amount would sit within the city manager's office, but those interns could be deployed as needed, highlighting that flexible staffing model and ability for us to pivot as an organization.
So, no changes to personnel city attorney. Um, no changes to that contract. Community development. Um, we are showing here. Um, and this is a a good item for us to highlight. Throughout this budget, you'll start to be able to
see what revenues or inflows are attached to each one of the different departments divisions. So you can see what that um cost recovery is based on either fees or charges for services and things of that nature. So
not a lot of changes in community development here um I did want to highlight on our code compliance for one of the positions um that this code enforcement clerk is actually an item that needs to be within
our building fund. So that'll be a change that the commission will see the next time this comes back. So that explains a little bit the variance between what was proposed or what was adopted in 25 versus 2026 planning.
Again, not a lot of um changes here from a expenditure standpoint as we're looking at our planning department changes with the FTEES. You can see that as well in our innovation and information technology. So this is one of those
areas where we are looking to have IT control and manage things like telephone, our printers, our laptops. So this budget um you will see an increase here. There's also a request for an additional um information technology
business system analyst human resources um pretty flat finance and administrative services. Um we are requesting a a pretty flat budget as well with the exception of when you get to our personnel there is a request we currently have a 75 finance
technician that we are requesting to be brought to a full FTE um just based on our current workload and fire department. Um you can see here that our uh fire and EMS and those positions were are pretty flat as well.
Um you can see that this is where those charges for services come into play from the reimbursement from Panelis County. So, if we zero in on fire suppression, um you can see the cost there. And
again, some of these larger areas, if we are seeing an increase, um workers compensation and our fire and EMS is going to be a larger area where that 27% increase is going to have a more heavy effect just based on the nature of the work that they do.
Okay. So this is our EMS team. Um and again you can see a further breakdown of some of those areas where we're receiving revenues um from our county partners for uh the services that we provide there.
Public services. So public services if the commission recalls went through a reorganization earlier in 2025. um with that reorganization um with streets, parks, and beach maintenance um that is really being looked at as almost a public properties
group. And so you'll see some efficiencies throughout where some of those positions are split in multiple different areas. Um they're able to work together and it's a good efficiency for the city. Um so right now what we're showing is from 25 budget we actually
went down in overall costs. So this is our administration of um public services and again uh changes here are primarily due to that reorganization that we had talked about
um earlier in 2025. This is our streets. Not a lot of changes here. Um facilities management. I had touched on this item. Um this is an area once again where we're trying to have the subject matter experts. So the folks that know about
our buildings and know about those different items to be managing them um within. So you'll see that R&M equipment went up uh quite a bit from our 2025 budget. This is our parks maintenance. So again, we have that nice revenue association
for any of those uh rentals that we received from the parks and then just those changes as it relates to um the reorganization that they did. Beach maintenance. Um this is an opportunity that we are working to with
our county partners to see if there's any ability for um bed tax to help cover some of these costs that we're seeing with beach maintenance. The other item that we did change is we have a code enforcement officer that focuses specifically on beaches. So we are tying
that to our uh personnel library department. Um, another department that does have some revenue generation based on the Penelis County co-op. Um, they also receive donations and things of that nature as well. So,
not a lot of changes here for our library services um, overall expenditures. Recreation and aquatics. Um, so this is an area that is being looked at through the fee study. um you know, what are we currently charging our residents and
participations of these programs? Um as a parent that has a kid in summer camp, I love what we charge. As a finance director, definitely needs to be looked at. So, this is a good opportunity for us as we're working through um this process here. So, um you can definitely
see where we have some cost recovery in our recreation programs and where maybe we have some opportunity to look at um changes there. So sorry this one
um the person overall personnel and recreation did go down and so this was just uh changes within the organization through recreation and aquatics. Again you can see within our aquatics um what our revenues are and what we're projecting. So you can see here that we
do have just a small decrease as we continue to um rebound from the prior year and and the recovery efforts. So this is non-EP departmental. Um this probably looks a little funny since it has all of our revenue sources. These
are revenues that aren't specifically tied to a specific department. So these are just considered non-EP departmental revenues that are shared across the general fund. Here you can see where we are looking to make
transfers over to our enterprise funds and then any outstanding debt service that we have. So that debt service is tied to our police pension. Um so that is showing just our current principle and interest that we have. So you can see here overall that we have some very
large transfers over to our enterprise funds as well as our CIP. That uh CIP transfer is inclusive of the 2.6 million that has our insurance proceeds in it as well. So um that is inclusive of that
number. And our building fund um we are this is another area when we're looking at our revenues. um we went and looked at sort of a historical what have we received. So this is showing um somewhere in between 2024 and 2025
or 2025 budget uh is where we're projecting that we think we're going to land with 2026. Um we know that there was a lot of permits pulled after the storms and so we're going to continue to look at what revenues we're receiving in
this fund and um adjust accordingly. This is an item that we could always bring back to as a mid-year adjustment for the commission as well. So, just wanted to highlight that piece. And then when we're looking at our personnel services with our limited duration um
employees and those items, there's also two uh requests for um adding in personnel. So, I'll jump to that for you. So, two positions were being requested here and one of those is a permit
coordinator and the other is a um inspector intern. So, we've been looking a lot into our comp plan and areas where this resiliency fund was first derived. From the understanding is that anytime we
have an increase in our advalorum taxes, 50% of that advalorum tax should go over to this resiliency fund for resiliency projects. Since we're not projecting an increase in our in our advorum taxes, you won't see a revenue coming over to
this fund. Um, so just wanted to highlight that. in our multimodal fund. Um this is an area where this will change the next time this comes back to the commission. So that 1.7 um is based on if
it needs to be phased um but this is related to trade winds in Sarata. Um so the expected development payout for the approved projects in our jurisdiction um we anticipate around 1.6 six of those transportation fees to be provided, but
the commission is aware that right now there's thatou from the county that currently we have not adopted as a community. And so this would be if this is this is this number is going to change. So I just wanted to highlight
that for you. Um regardless of what thatou looks like um these are definitely very general estimates um for trade winds and serata and so those will be more of a phased approach. So this is a overall view of our capital
fund. Um, in our capital fund, we receive our projections for um the the Penllis County uh scent that we receive for each one of our projects. Um, we get that from them. The
intergovernmental revenue is looking at um any sort of uh FEMA reimbursements or grants that we currently have outstanding. And then the other sources that's the transfer from the general fund which is inclusive of that insurance uh revenue
that we expect to receive back. So this is a very summarized version. Um later in your book you do have all of the capital projects broken out and I'll get into any of those changes that we've made since the last time we've met. This
is taking and looking at it by what type of projects um are included in the 26 budget in our fleet fund. Um you can see that we do have other sources and those other sources are anywhere where the general
fund or any other enterprise fund is contributing back into the fleet. And so what we're putting together is a schedule based on the replacement cycle of each one of our fleet vehicles. Um when we need to replace that, how much it costs for us to replace it, and then
what is our repair and maintenance cost um to do any preventative maintenance or anything of that nature. So um we changed this a little bit from how it's been previously budgeted for. So diving into our proprietary funds. Um
this is taking the commission through um all of them together. Uh so this is kind of a holistic view of our enterprise funds. So we'll take a little deeper dive into those. In our wastewater fund, um we have a $5.2 million transfer out
from uh the general fund. We also are showing a small increase in those charges for services and we're going to continue to monitor that as the commission can see um our 2025 actuals. Um that's what we've received to date. So we are monitoring this and that could
come back. Um the ending fund balance with all of the capital projects that we're looking to accomplish this year um is a little small for my liking. Um, but this is where we are showing a balanced
budget and so we'll continue to refine those numbers and determine what the commission and the community is comfortable with. So, this is just breaking it down again by where those revenue sources are coming from, what our um expenditures
are based on um by line item essentially. And then again you can see the positions and the wastewater fund is an area that did have um some changes as part of that reorganization in our public services team.
So this is our reclaimed water. Um we are projecting just a small decrease with that reclaimed water. Again the fee study is going to be really impactful and helpful for us. We can bring that back at a midyear whenever we have that information for the commission and the community. Um but wanted to highlight
again that you know we're having to transfer over that 400,000 um because even with just the operating costs you know we're really not collecting enough revenues in here to sustain this uh reclaimed water fund storm water. Um, so our storm water
fund. Um, I did want to highlight that, uh, we do have the transfer here from the general fund. Um, we also are looking at if there's an opportunity for us to, um, have a grant to help cover
the cost for the Don Cesar redundancy project. So that's inclusive in here as well. Okay. And then diving into our parking fund. Um so brand new fund, which is why you're not seeing those 2024 um actuals
and those expenditures in here. Um right now parking has uh started to rebound pretty well since about March. So, this is another area where we're looking at that month-to-month trend analysis to determine have we fully recovered from
where we were um in 2024 or 2025. Um so, you are seeing this is a conservative estimate for where we expect to be. The largest expense out of that is that $3.2 million transfer over to the general fund. And then you'll also see here that we do
have um any of those positions that are currently listed within um the parking fund. Oops, sorry. Next slide. There it is. Okay, this is taking the commission through um funded position by
department. So, this is showing 160.68 positions for this 2026 budget. And then this is a comparison by department um that we've talked about as we've gone through this presentation
what we had in 2025 compared to what is included in 2026. So for our capital improvement program since we've spent a lot of time talking about these projects I did want to um just take the commission through um what we heard from the finance budget review
committee. So, first off, they asked was to continue aggressive progress on fire station 22. So, we have that in place for 2026. G Winds drive, um they asked us to revisit that project. So, that has been pushed out to 2027.
Bogusa Drive, um the bid we received in 2024 was for a complete street project at about 5.4 million. We adjusted that cost um based on a reduced scope and removed out sidewalks with expansions. Um we also have a $ 1.5 million grant
from FDOT that expires in 2025. So we'll request an extension on that one. Um the Mary Pure Bait Shack was asked just to not be demolished and the generator project uh was a request to consider a less expensive alternative and that's in
progress. Um fe study is underway as the commission is aware. And then the finance budget review committee did ask for the staff to come up with um comp compensation and
benefits for comparable communities. I mentioned at this beginning of the presentation that we're going to bring this back again to the finance bud budget review committee looking at population budget um and some other factors as well for uh the finance
budget review committee to review. So when we met with the commission last on June 10th, um there was a request to rep prioritize the dunes. Um so this was ranked as a priority too. Um so we did rep prioritize that to a priority too.
It was a one. Um revenue sources, we did update those at a fund summary level so that the commission can see where those figures are coming from. Um a fee study will look at the revenue generations for our building rentals. So, what are we currently receiving in revenue from any
of our rentals that we have? We updated the description for the hurricane damage seaw wall repairs project. Um, listing out other grants as potential. So, we started to list out where those grant sources are. And then phase three
undergrounding um was requested to be a lower priority than Bokea and Gulf Winds. So, that project was pushed out to 2027. There was a request to rep prioritize the lateral service pipe replacement to a number one priority. So we did do that
and then ranking the Donsesar storm water project to a priority one with the phased approach. So that was also included as part of your packet. Um simplified the streets project um and delay the other layers in those
projects. And so we have that as well. So these next slides are looking at a summary of all of our capital projects um and any areas where we have some changes based on either the commission or based on the finance budget review
committee. So again that Bokea Drive reconstruction um I already spoke about that one. We are showing um the citywide security system uh we are looking at an updated phased approach for replacement. Um the community seaw wall was one that
um came up as well. Um the project is required to be completed by 6:30 2026 as we have a grant um associated with that. We updated the dune walkovers from a 2 to a one as I mentioned. Um changes with
our facility elevators rehabilitation. This was a staff driven change. Elevator parts are on a longer leave time. So we're going to have some payments that extend into 2026. Um looking at the hurricane damage right ofway rehabilitation. This was one that
we spread with improvements over two years. In our hurricane uh damage right ofway seaw wall repairs uh we removed the reference to E Martina Drive and then on our pass the grillway seaw wall
replacements um we're looking to award a design build contract. So complete design and permitting in fiscal year 26 with the start of construction in 2026 but complete in 27. So that's another project that's looking at a more phased approach. The shoreline protection
improvements. Um there was a request to include improvements and scheduled an asset management plan. So this item um we did have some deferred projects that are included. So this is for fiscal year 23, 24, and 25 um but also includes um
phased or those planned improvements that we have for 2026. And then as we are looking at our capital improvements within our other funds, you can see that Dawn says our Bogusa area resiliency adaptation projects does have that $800,000 for
design um with a $600,000 grant component to it in our fiscal year 2026. later, and I won't take the commission through all these projects again, um, but later through each one of those multi-year um, plans, you can see how
we've made changes to any of those, um, requests that we have. So, I'm going to breeze through these and just talk a little bit about our next steps and then answer any questions of the commission. Um so our next step is we're going to look and take a pretty
deep dive into our advalorum tax analysis looking at homestead versus non looking at residential versus commercial. Um and then we'll have any changes that have occurred um from this commission meeting and any recommendations uh baked in from the finance budget review committee. Um, at
that 8:26 meeting with the tenative budget book, the commission will see where projects for 2025, any reappropriations that we need to make into 2026 for projects that didn't get get completed so that we're really showing a very accurate budget as we
move forward. So, with that, I am happy to stop talking. Thanks, Devin. Um, all right, questions. Anybody want to start?
Yeah, I'll take a stab at it. Uh, first of all, uh, Devin, thank you so much. That was very, uh, informative, especially, uh, being the new guy up here. Regarding the, uh, resilient fund, have we given any consideration to diverting that to the needs of the CIP?
As far as the fund balance that we currently have, um, we certainly could. Um, as I mentioned, we're just trying to make sure as we go through the comp plan that we're following the intended purpose of that fund. It was started in 2023 and thus far has been utilized um for one
resiliency project. Okay. Thank you. Um, I have concerns on the uh priority wise on the um storm water cleanout and maintenance simply because I know that we're about a quarter of the way cleaned out for our storm drains is my
understanding um where we sit right now, nine months after the storm and um what can we do from a financial standpoint to speed that process up? At this rate, we're two and a quarter years down the road before we've covered the whole city and we're already in another
storm uh storm season. So, that's going to put us three storm seasons before we've actually got the whole city. So, I have concerns with that and I believe there, you know, the residents would as well. Um considering we just had a bag that clogged up, you know, over on First
Palm Point and uh we have other issues, major drainage issues in other areas. I think that could be something that um Camden Mills, our public services director, and myself could look at determining if there's a creative option out there, whether that's contracted or
how we can afford it. But we can put our heads together and bring that back. Right. Okay, great. Yeah, I'd like to see if you know an outside vendor to assist us um you know, and compare that cost to a purchase if we need another vehicle or what we need to do on that. Um, also I know the last um, workshop we
talked about um, there were a few items deemed as legal requirements. I would like to see that for future as to what those legal requirements are. Okay. Statute wise, whatever that is. Um, because I did have a couple of uh, residents asked me about cameras and
parks and things to that effect. Okay. And I know it's not a huge amount, you know, $40,000 per year amount, but and it was deemed as a C priority one, just that whether those funds can be used elsewhere um more to really get us, you know, back on our feet. Continue. I
mean, because we're basically, you know, a champagne taste on a beer budget here. Okay, we can bring that back. Um I've got a a couple questions for you, Devon. um that are are pretty pretty minor, but I'm kind of curious.
Um one of them is in the recreation uh fund. They're one of the line items for income is a little less than $100,000 that's categorized as instructor fees. And I wasn't sure how
we were collecting money from are we making our instructors pay us? So that would be anytime that a resident is doing like a water Zumba class for example, they're paying an additional instructor cost since that's
instructorled. So that's an item um that we are looking at through that operating fee study, but it is something that we do receive and Mandy could probably tell us if you want to know per instructor. No, that that makes sense. So it's it's just when when it it's not categorized as part of the admissions fees. that's
separated out into what part is for an instructor versus the facility. Correct. Okay. Um and then in the building fund, one of the expenses is just called an administration fee and it's about $210,000.
Um can you elaborate on what what what that is? So with any of our um enterprise funds or fee generating funds um like the building fund, we have a administrative fee. So that covers the cost of any support that the building
fund receives from human resources, IT, finance, um legal, city attorneys. So some of those areas where you know if they didn't have general finance they'd have to hire someone to do accounts payable or payroll for them for example.
So it's a pretty common practice that with those um outside of the general fund that they are paying a administrative fee or a cost allocation fee is essentially um where that's at right now that has a 3% increase on it for 2026. Um, that'll be an item that we
focus pretty heavily on during 2026 to really show what is the cost for each department instead of it just being tagged to those um, enterprise funds essentially. Perfect. Okay. Yeah. Thanks. That's that's nice. That's nice to know that going forward we're going to have a much
clearer picture of what what it costs for to run each department essentially. So, absolutely. That's great. Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Mayor, do you have any questions? Nope. Uh, commissioners, any further questions?
All right. Thanks, Devin. Thank you. All right. Anything else for the budget workshop? Nope. No. Nothing else. All right. We are adjourned. Part: 2
and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. City clerk, can we have roll call? Commissioner Robinson here. Commissioner Maldonado here. Vice Mayor Marriott
here. Mayor Pata here. We have a quorum. Thank you. Um, I'd like to start by giving a warm welcome to our new commissioner for District 4, U, Mr. Maldonado. Thank you so much for
agreeing to join our MLY crew up here. We we all really appreciate it. So, thank you so much for being here. Um, does anyone have any changes for the agenda? I have a couple. Um, I'd like to um um
pull item C on consent to action. Okay. So, we'll move 4 C to 5B. Vice Mayor, just um if I could remind you that we decided consent would be pulled at the time of consent and then
just discuss. Ah, okay. After the rest of the consent calendar is approved. Okay. And then we would talk about the item that's pulled. Great. And then I have um an item to add for discussion which is um to discuss um uh for
clarification on ordinance 202419 which is look back. There appears to be some items that need correction. Okay. Anyone else have any changes to the agenda? Would anyone like to make a motion to
approve the agenda? I make the motion. I second. Vice Mayor Marriott? Yes. Commissioner Robinson? Yes. Commissioner Maldonado? Yes. And Mayor Petrilla? Yes. Motion carries.
All right. And so first up, I think we have our hurricane recovery and preparedness presentation. Good evening, Vice Mayor, commissioners. Laura Canary, community development director. So, this evening as we transition um upon giving a hurricane
recovery update and preparedness update, I'm going to be tag teaming it with Camden Mills as we talk about more of the preparedness side of things. So, starting off, we're going to be looking at the permit processing, give a quick snapshot on that, then look at resources and communications, do a little bit of a
deeper dive to look at the demolitions to date, and then we're going to talk about hurricane preparedness. We're going to go into some talk about the training that we've been conducting, talk about the substantial damage administrative plan that's been drafted, and then transition into public services and what they're doing over there for
hurricane preparedness. So, looking at permit processing through June 22nd, we have 4,720 applications that have been submitted or that were submitted. On average, we're taking in 299 a day. We finally met that
goal of issuing 60 in a day. Um, not to again, that was at one point that we pulled the data, but we are very pleased to to say that we've met that goal. Um, as far as inspection goes, we're averaging just over a hundred a day. And again, those can those challenges continue to be the same challenges, just
that documentation and needing additional um documentation on certain things. Um the pie chart to the right breaks it down as far as what is in review issu um as far as received and not in review. We have 300 permit
applications. We've issued 3,595. We currently have 142 in review and we've closed out 445. As far as resources in communications, as one can imagine, um I know even just since the time that I've been here with
you all pivoting and making changes or whether it's an ordinance that's put in place or anything that we've had to do to kind of look at our policies and procedures and and be able to better serve the community. Um there's been changes and so communicating that is is really important. And so we're in the
process of working with the communications manager, Mark Portugal, on just really looking across the board as we it's not a matter of just updating our FAQs and putting new information out there because it's living in different places and so we're really doing an overhaul right now. Um, but in the
meantime, if there's anything, just please continue. I I really appreciate I know some have been sending in things whether if it's something that's been brought to their attention or that they've caught themselves. Please continue to do that because we really are trying to at a minimum be able to at least get any information that's no
longer if it's outdated or or irrelevant get that removed. So just to avoid any confusion, but we're currently working on that. We're also looking at our labor rate sheets in particular. That was one of the things that was put out there in the beginning of the process to really
serve as a guide to the community owner builders in particular to be able to as they're developing their scope of work and showing the costs associated with that scope of work to be able to use the labor rate sheet as part of a guide. Um, part of the issue with that is the rates
that are on that sheet are truly rates of what you would anticipate paying someone. So, for example, the average rate of what an electrician would get paid. it's not capturing what an individual or a consumer would pay to receive those services. So there's some factoring in and and that you have to
use as part of the evaluation when you're, you know, coming up with that that ultimate lump sum. And so we felt that after um quite a few um people had brought it to our attention that it was kind of mis it was misguiding them or misleading, we've taken that back and
added a disclaimer to the sheet kind of referencing that this is a guide and some of the other things to be looking at. And our intent is to put that back out there. But if there's any question as to why that was removed, that's that is the answer. It was simply because of the way that it was being factored and
things were being calculated. it was starting to cause more confusion than help we felt. Um I have a question because I just know that going through the FEMA SID desk reference, it specifically says um when it talks about estimates of owner and volunteer
labor, and I'm quoting from this, it says the applicant should provide an estimate of the value of owner or volunteer labor. The value placed on labor should be estimated based on applicable minimum hour wage scales for
the skill and type of construction work that is done. So I'm just asking how does that differ from a wage scale on a list? This is exactly what they're saying to do. Um, so and I don't want to misspe but my
understanding and to address your question is more that it wouldn't be so much even the range of what is on that sheet isn't so much the question because if somebody wanted to use a number in that range to show what the cost of the labor was I don't think that we would question that it's the additional
component of that as well. So whether it was the overhead or the overhead and profit only pro only only goes to uh contractors. Well, what I'm saying is as far as if to pay a certain so for example, if you
were hiring a plumber and the plumber's rate says on this sheet, for example, I don't know what the range is, but let's just say that it's 25 to 45 an hour. um you would you could potentially use that 25 for the cost of the plumber for the
labor itself. But beyond the labor, there's going to be additional costs that are included in that to arrive at that total amount such as and what additional cost? Because if we're talking I'm I'm specifically talking um owner builder
and I'm not talking about contractor, I'm talking owner builder. When this says the applicable minimum hour wage scale for the skill and type of construction work is done, that's pretty black and white to me. If you're talking about management of that, which I know
that there is a a portion in here that says about the manage uh the management um it says construction management and supervision. Is that what you're referring to? No, what I was more
referring to is that there was so for example, if someone submitted an application and showed that there and used the rate on that sheet to show what the cost of their electrician was and that was it just using that that rate amount. The the question comes into play
of we're knowing that that is the cost. Again, this is per the directive of us understanding that this is what a labor cost is, the hourly rate of what they're getting paid and knowing that there's other cost associated. So, the consumer is basically not paying that rate. They're going to be paying there's going
to be a search charge on that. if you're paying a contractor to do that work. But there is right but we're talking owner builder compared to um contractor because spec specifically it says that contractors have to put in their overhead and profit and it does not say
that to owner builder but as far as their cost of materials and it says I think there's well materials is a separate thing. We're not talking materials because there was two columns in the in the packets. There's a column for materials and there's a
column for labor. And we're talking about labor wages, not materials. So materials are material costs. They're not labor costs. See, my understanding was more that that the rates were causing more confusion because it wasn't directing people to
also capture any other additional cost that they were just looking at that and saying here's the co here's the average of what an electrician is getting paid an hour. I assume that there's or I'm factoring that it's going to take x amount of hours and I'm multiplying that times what an electrician would get paid and that's what I'm putting as my total scope of work cost.
Well, that's not how it outlined on the sheet. You actually had to break out your labor cost separately from your material costs, right? On the FEMA packet, but on that labor sheet, we didn't have that part on it. And that's Well, that was just the rates to use for the labor rate side of it.
That that's what we thought, but that we were only getting that piece. we were only getting the the hourly rate associated with that labor sheet. So, we were accepting things with just the labor rate and not with the materials cost on it. Well, we were we would accept the application, but then as it was
reviewed, we were finding that okay, this isn't capturing, we don't feel adequately the entire scope of work because it's just showing that it's calculating the cost of an electrician of what an electrician would get paid for the hourly rate. And and part of the problem is is that there's not a um you
know, and I can defer to the attorney because FEMA doesn't have that provide you that guide of exactly what to use. We've talked extensively with the city manager too about is there like can they even come up with a range that includes it all? Like maybe it's again maybe it's a broad range, but it's the average cost
of say drywall per square foot and then at least allow that to be used as a guide to an owner builder. But my understanding and and I and I'll get back to you if I if I misunderstood. But my understanding was more that when people some individuals were using the sheet, they were just looking at that
rate and okay, electricity, you know, so I'm going to use that rate or plumbing and I'm going to use that and then just factoring it times the hour and then putting that in. And so it didn't include whether if there was demo work before that or if there was you right. Well, but the again it was line
item out on on the actual packet itself. demo was lined out item out on on the packet as separately. So that would have fall under a different hour minimum hourly wage scale for the skill and type of construction work that is done. That being demo would have been probably on
the low end of a scale. It's not going to fall under carpentry or electric. So, so is our plan is to go ahead and put that sheet back out with the disclaimer of again this is intended to be captured as the labor part of the project and then you know any addition. The other
thing is is that it's not even necessarily perfectly accurate because you may be able to get a quote from a contractor that looks different than that and that would suffice as well. So that's where it was kind of getting tricky because again it's one piece of information that you can use as a guide. But as it seemed to be starting to cause
a little bit more confusion that that was hence why okay we need to do something. But if by by all means if there's better direction like that there are suggestions. We just didn't want to just take it away and not put it back out there without at least explaining this is this is why we felt it was
causing some confusion and where if you're looking at this this is again just exclusively for the labor portion of it not total scope. Yeah, I think that there is also the metro um area of our area which was Clearwater, Tampa, St. Pete. there's
metro rates as as uh early as or as late as 20 um March of 24 instead of I think we're using stuff from 23 before. So there's newer rates on there. I just wanted to make that clear because I know that there's been some confusion
on that and um just wanted to make sure that we're putting that out there correctly for folks especially in light of another storm season and we'll have one every year after that another storm season. So I just want to make sure we get it right um going forward. And we've
even talked about being able to again hopefully we don't have to use these lessons learned necessarily exactly the same, but all of this data that we have now, it's going to be very uh I shouldn't say easy, but now that we have it in in one platform, we'll be able to segment that and be able to look at what
is the average cost. And so if we were wanting to in the future be able to try and simplify things or at least provide even if again if it's a broader range but if it's again being more directly associated with the overall scope of work and can be used as a tool we think it'd be extremely helpful because it
absolutely has been one of the hiccups. Well I know you can get online and look what it costs to to in um install one sheet of drywall and it's ranges from $40 um u to $70. So, you know, it ranges that way. And
the question is what is acceptable for this city? Are you going to do the middle of the road or what or what kind of guidelines? I think what we need to do has more of a rule of thumb um in that so that we can at least guide people to the right direction and know what they know what's going to be
acceptable. Okay. We um we're also developing a list of typical inspections. This is this was something that came up along the way that actually one of our inspectors had suggested that again it's it's going to be kind of a it's not a
one-sizefits-all, but just what you can expect, especially as an owner builder because there there has um been some inspections that come up along the way that people just maybe didn't anticipate or didn't, you know, see coming. So, we're developing that as well as we're compiling a lot of this information is
already out there, but it's in different places. We're providing um two documents that are going to be basically one-stop packets for demolitions and for elevating your home. So, it'll include all of the documentation needed. And then again, you may not need to complete all of it depending on what you know
what your project is, but kind of so there might be more than than you might have more than you need, but we'll have it all in one place um just to again help. And this is a lot of this is not only based on our team's internal, you know, feedback that we've received, but also from the volunteers and then of
course um the community members and you all of what we've been hearing along the way. And then we are continuing to work with the new business analyst who's been extremely helpful and they've been coming into our department and looking at our processes, internal processes, anything from the intake of permits and
how they're received and then how they're divided up or if you will how the permit techs get assigned to those cases. Um, and so we're looking at how we can really improve and become more efficient. Um, and so we're very grateful to have that help and and tech and from a technology stand point to
really be able to utilize the tools that we have as well as the new tools such as 4Erunner to be able to improve our processes. So when we look at demolitions through 622, there's been 121 demolition permit
applications, 63 issued and 12 closed, which means that 12 of those buildings have actually came down. and the average amount of time that it's taking when you when you take out a few of the outliers because there are a couple outliers in there. It's averaging 38 days. Um I do
want to call attention to the fact that you know we normally can and and will be and we adhere to the less than 30 days. Um one of the things with the demolitions in particular and talking with the team is you know it's one of the few there's a few instances that
actually require a pre-insspection demolitions being one of them. So that again can take a little bit more time. It's um the other two of course are turbidity screenings and then also when they need to come out and look at a for when a pool is going in when they need to in do a pre-insspection of the site
to make sure that the silt fencing is up. So with regard to a demo permit in particular and using that as an example and why you would maybe see a little bit more time I want to just call attention to a couple things because when you pull a report in I in I work um you know it
just looks at that time and it's like in that on that given day um but it's basically looking at true permit applications and a lot of times what we'll get especially given that in the beginning we were encouraging people to go ahead and apply for your permit apply
and and we can get the rest of the information, get it in. So that that starts the the ticker, if you will, the timing, but it's truly not a a true permit application full being ready to be reviewed until we have that additional documentation. But I work is
counting that time, if that makes sense. So it gets tagged on and so it it counts that cumulative time. So it makes it look like it's taking a longer time frame on the review side, which it really isn't. And then in addition to that again is just the the extra step. Again, it can take a couple days or take
longer depending on the circumstances, but just the instance of a demo permit actually requiring a pre-sight inspection prior to issuing that permit. Got one question regarding the uh demolitions. Are we keeping tabs on those that are designated as historical
structures? Yes, sir. Thank you. Laura, I've got a quick question for you also. Um on the um on the demolition permits um is are the is the pre-sight or the the pre-demolition the pre-permit
inspection is are those um scheduled and happening next day like other inspections are or is that on a different schedule? I'm can't confir you on that. Okay, that's fine. Um, and then is there
internally are you guys talking about any kind of like goals to to get to where you know maybe if you know particularly once you have a list available for people where they know exactly what information they need to submit when they're submitting one of those are there any kinds of internal
goals of like we think we could get this down to 14 days or 20 days or um so honestly right now a lot of our focus is the the time time is of essence for sure, but we also um we find that a lot of the um it seems like sometimes
the frustration is that back and forth. So the timing is absolutely important in one part of it, but we one of the things that we've discussed a lot internally and especially recently is if there's a way to more like from start to finish have it with one reviewer, maybe there's
a second one if possible so that not only from a communication standpoint, you have one point of contact to see that permit through, but um again just just so it's easier back and forth whether there's documentation needed. Now, we do know that that essentially could maybe, you know, make the process
take a little longer, but we really believe that in essence it'll actually make create some efficiencies. Um, so that's one of the things that we've been working with the business analyst on. And so that's one of our goals is to try and kind of change the process to where we can have a little bit more ownership
and accountability as well per each of those permits. Um, and then I think to the the end goal is, you know, we're we're not going to stop just because we hit that 60 in a day. But I think that that was one of the benchmarks that was created earlier on and and I think that what the other thing that we found is
now that we're at a certain point in the process, we're finding that either it's just that works being done, so projects are being under construction, so the time is the construction side of things. And then the other thing is is now that we're starting to see kind of more of
the elevations come forward and whether it's that they're doing things on their own or that they're just, you know, letting us know that they're still waiting on an answer from Elevate. Um I I think that our goal is going to be to once we have a better handle on how many of those we actually think you know are
are going to be actual and factual that then be able to really set some parameters and benchmarks of of what how many we you know timeline and how quickly we can do that because you know to date like when it comes to an elevation you know we haven't seen a project fully through. So,
right, perfect. Thank you. So, moving on to training. Uh, the the individual departments and staff continue to take the NIMS and ICS training on an individual basis. We also had training with Panelis County to do
damage assessment. And one exciting thing is is that the county is now going to be using 4ERunner as well. So, um, the training didn't showcase 4ERunner quite yet, but we're very excited because it's just the migration between now the data that the county already has and knowing that that's going to be
transitioned over into 4Erunner will just hopefully be that much easier for us to be able to get it over and, you know, it'll be in a one-stop shop and um, and we'll have it aggregated in one place. The tabletop exercise that we conducted
on the 16th of June was with department directors and other personnel that are assigned to the EOC. And that was a very um helpful exercise um for me in particular not being here at the very beginning of everything just to really talk through things and assignments and
then also be able to talk about the individual plans and then how that plays into the bigger plan and citywide initiatives. And then the Florida flood plane managers conference, our building official attended that last week and um he had some really good insight that he
brought back. Um, not only was um did we find out that, you know, we're one of many communities that are finishing their SDA AP for the first time, but we also learned that, you know, there's a lot of other communities that um that when it comes to Forerunner, I mean, it
really is it's kind of the um it not only is an ideal software for what we're trying to do damage assessment wise, but I think it's going to be great as as more communities in the county get on board with it in different jurisdictions. I think it's just going to hopefully from a um be able to allow
us to really make datadriven decisions moving forward to be able to utilize that information. As I said, we've drafted the we have our first draft completed of the substantial damage administrative procedures plan and that's kind of housed in community
development, but of course we also work with um fire and other departments on the damage assessment. But the big thing about the SDAP is that it kind of assembles um some SOPs for damage assessment. It also identifies roles and
responsibilities. So we have what we refer to as our our core damage assessment team, kind of that first team that will be deployed and that consists of um five teams of two individuals. And so as I said, most of those individuals are within the community development
department. Um but and then it also um you know it very importantly defines key terms that we found were are very important to have you know not only it clearly defined but understand how things are going to be determined by the city such as fair market costs, fair
market value. So these are such the types of things that kind of get woven into the SDAP and then of course certainly not not certainly not least the um incorporates forerunner. Um, again, this is going to just help us create significant efficiencies and be
able to get all of the data into one place. I have a couple questions on this. Um, as far as defining the key terms, who's who's whose definition are you using for for that? The FEMA's definition, the the Penelis County Property Appraisers
definition, are you using the English um dictionary? I mean, I I just don't know because there's that it can be skewed either way. So, as of right now, and again, this is in draft form so that we can bring it back to you all and then receive your feedback and if anything needs to be tweaked or changed, we have that
ability. But as of right now, we're using the same formula that's used by Penllis County. So, using that 85% of the just value as captured for the structure only in the property appraiser. So, that's that's the valuation that we're using right now. again because it's just pertaining to
damage assessment for this piece, not you know putting it in context for that purpose. And for 4Erunner, does it actually generate an ACV uh as um as the other as the title basin did or the um um SDE
estimator did? You mean for based on the damages? Correct. Yes, it does. Yes. Are we going to be able to use that as a as just one tool or metric? Yes. Yes. It um very similar to kind of the platform that was used by tidal
basin as far as the percentages. Very similar, but again, you know, part of that's um think there a lot of the error going back had to do with how the how the information was in how it was in. Yeah. Yeah. No, I just concerned because
a lot of people went out and got ACBs and spent money to get an ACV and to know that the SDE actually generates one and we didn't use it is, you know, it is kind of disheartening. So, I'm hoping that going forward if Forerunner does
have that, we can use that as just another metric to compare with what the county property with the the FEMA 50 letter says. Um and you know after that if there's an issue then somebody can go out and get an an actual ACB. Thank you.
Question regarding the uh damage assessment teams. Have we considered maybe creating a volunteer cadre to assist with that and the need that we get overwhelmed with the volume similar to what we did with the permits.
Um so we haven't I have not discussed that with my team. I think that um I'll defer to the city manager. I know that um it would probably be um if there was a situation where we needed all hands on decks and and we had volunteers that
were readily available and especially those that maybe had knew a little bit more already about the process. The only thing that I would maybe think would maybe be a concern is just from a you know liability standpoint. That would be the only thing that I could think of of having a volunteer go on someone's
private property versus one of our employees or a contract employee. Just just food for thought. I mean, if we if we need to surge and try to get through these things, it might be something that we could consider obviously with legal counsel in terms of release of liability and things.
Yeah, there's certain things they might be able to do. Thank you. There's quite a lot of work, different subtax. All right. Thank you. And now I'm going to hand it over to Camden to talk more about public services.
Good evening, commissioners, charter officials. Um, as Laura mentioned, my name is Camden Mills, public services director. Um, so I just like to take some time this evening and go over some of the efforts our operations and maintenance team is underway with um, as we get into the storm season. Um, first
is maintaining our wastewater system. Um, so this is repairing our lift stations, um, inspecting underground pipes and manholes and and cleaning our our lift station pipes and manholes. Um, to date, um, all of the pumps that were damaged from the storms, we've either
replaced those or sent those off to repairs and have received those back and and they are installed. Um, so as of today, at all 21 of our li our wastewater lift stations, we do have two pumps in operation. Um we are um continually to make improvements um
long-term improvements to to help this system be more reliable in the future. Um but we're working towards being back to towards pre-torm conditions while we also plan and engineer um more mitigation for the future. Similar to our wastewater system, uh we're also
cleaning and inspecting our underground storm water system. Um so again this involves underground pipes, manhole structures, outfalls, title check valves, and our baffle structures. Um just to give a little bit of context on some of the um work that we've recorded
and logged into our asset management software to date, uh we've completed um almost 200 um reactive work orders. We've televised and cleaned um just about 3,000 linear feet of pipe. Um and that's specific to to our outfall pipes.
Um right now we're focusing um our efforts in that direction. Um we are still planning on doing a citywide um television televising and inspection. Um the request for bid package for that has been drafted and sent over to our procurement pack or department. So we
hope to get that on the street soon and then fund that in fiscal year 26. um a lot of our tie check valves that are located at the outfalls um we've had 19 out of 35 of those um inspected and cleaned. Out of those 19 um we do have
several that are identified for replacement. Um so we'll be prioritizing um when when those replacements um need to happen. And then our baffle structures um those are the structures that help collect debris um before they exit our storm water system and into the
bay. we have maintained and cleaned um all 30 of the baffle structures that we have throughout the city. Um so this isn't really a one-time effort. This is something that we need to continue to do um throughout the year. Our plan is to um develop a preventative maintenance action plans that we can execute through
um quarterly maintenance through a contract and then also supplement um inhouse with our own resources and personnel. Um also related to some storm water is our pond maintenance. Um the city has nine ponds um that are dedicated for
detention and retention and are permitted with our um Southwest Florida Water Management District. So we inspect these nine ponds on a monthly basis and then make any repairs um as needed to make sure that they're operational and can accept flows and and provide flood
storage if needed. Um tree trimming. Um this is this is something that our parks crew is is underway with at our various city um facilities and parks. Um we have about 19 69 open space um green spaces and
parks throughout the city. Um so we're hitting all of those properties and and just helping trim down any loose or dead vegetation um where needed. Um one area that was identified recently that that we'll get out to our contractors is along past a grill way. Um, a lot a lot
of the areas we do maintain in house, but some of that we do um contract out as well. So, we'll we'll contract with that vendor to make sure um those are addressed during the storm season. Similar to um trimming um the landscaping in our ride ofway, we also
do the same at our um various public facilities and buildings. Um again, this is something that we recommend to property owners um to do as well. If you see, you know, loose or dying vegetation in your yard, please clean that up. Um, so that way they don't turn into potential projectiles if we do have a
heavy wind event. Street sweeping. Um, this is something that we conduct on a monthly basis. Um, so we maintain about 40 miles of roads throughout our city. Um, and each of those roads is serviced um, at least once a month um, through our street
sweeper. Um the idea here is to collect debris um sweep and vacuum it up before it enters our storm water system. And then our debris management sites. Um so in the past we have used Egan Park as our debris um staging area um before
it's offloaded to a final um dumpo disposal site. We have been coordinating with D to close out our permit um from the prior year. Um we did some soil sampling out at Egan Park. Um, we submitted that report to FD for their
review. Um, we just recently received feedback from D um that they um have read our results and are in concurrence with our remediation plan which is to remove the top layer of soil off of that park and then resaw with bear grass. So,
now that we've received that approval um from the state, we plan to move forward with soliciting um competitive bids for that work. So, we'll be removing the top layer, um removing any debris that that's still currently on site, restoring the the irrigation. Um there'll be significant repairs required
to the irrigation there, and then we'll be um replanting with bea sod grass. Um so, that should be a package that that we'll solicit down on the street shortly. In addition to Egan Park, we um also submitted site approval for the Hurley Park area um down in Pass Grill.
Um, one area that was identified for our debris management collector last um, season was um, just the the opportunities uh, for another location further south. They thought that would help improve their efficiencies. Um, so we have requested the pre-approval for
that site um, to deploy if needed and and the state has issued approval for that. Um, another location that we can potentially consider will be the county park. Um, that lot is owned by the county. Um, so the approval through D would be handled through them. Um, but that if that's another option we want to
look at, we can start those conversations with the county. And then lastly, like to remind our our residents that we do have free sandbag disposal at at Egan Park. Um, those are self-service. Um, so there should be the sand and the shovel there for you to
come and fill your bags. If any of those resources are not available there, please call our public services department and we'll get those set up for you. And with that, I'll open up for any comments or questions. I have a couple. First off, I want to comment and I want to publicly thank you
so much for two weekends ago taking that call on Sunday because I was receiving the calls as well for uh a home being raised and them doing pumping water out. All the silt was going down the street going into uh uh a storm water drain
that just recently got cleaned out. and I was uh very happy and very impressed that you uh personally called that resident back um on Sunday on a Sunday. So, thank you very much. Um took some heat off of me. No, just um but I I
wanted to ask from storm water, how much total linear pipe do we have in this city? We have a lot. So, total wise city, we have about or 18 miles um worth of pipe. So what we've scratched at so far is is really just the surface of that. Um
that's why we're focusing our effort is more just that outfall into the pipes and um understood. And so to date we've maybe t cleaned out a quarter. I would say I would say probably about 10 to 20% is 10 to 20%. Okay. And that's why I
brought the comment up earlier about the fact that, you know, that is a big concern going into storm season, finding an Avon bag clogging a whole street and having that flood for weeks at a time because it was clogged. Um, so I have big concerns on that and would like to
be able to see, you know, a maintenance plan. Um, as well as what we can do, um, to go ahead and supplement and how much that would cost to supplement so that we can get ahead and not be not take two uh, you know, over two years to actually
get us where we've cleaned everything out and be three storms later or three storm seasons later. Thank you. Any other questions? Thanks, Camden. Um, all right. Uh, city clerk, do we
have any public comment? Yes, Deb Shner. Good evening. Deborah Sheckner, Bokusa Isle Drive in St. Pete Beach, Florida. I'd like to talk about the um certificate of concurren concurrency. Now, this is a a certificate. It's a
document issued by the city manager certifying that concurrent availability of infrastructure services and other items for the city before
they get a cup. before they get a variance, before they get a permit to build. And for those who want to reference, I'm referencing um development code 29.1B
and 214B and 29.3A. So just if you want to look at those later on intent is implemented by a concurrency management plan system
which shall be measured potential impact of a development permit application upon the adopted minimum acceptable level of service as provided in the capital improvements element of the comp plan. A certificate of concurrency
must be issued before any taxexempt development project. And all of the large projects we have are tax exempt. 21104B CUP's approval should not be approved without a concurrency plan. And that
goes on for the others. I don't think this city has ever done that. Um, it has been brought up before the prior commission and it was just poo pooed. Well, take a look at our comp plan. I gave you the numbers. It's telling us we
need concurrency. And that only makes sense when you think about it. Why would you issue a permit if you don't know if the infrastructure, you don't know if the roads, the water, the sewage, all of these things are appropriate for the amount of
building. And when we look around, you want to talk about the sewers, well, there will be thousands of more toilets project over here. Some of them will have at least two toilets in each unit. By the way, there will be no facilities for residents who want to visit the
area. So, pretty much we're not that welcome, I guess. And I I just think it's important that we take a look at what we've done. I don't know if we can resend some of that information because we didn't follow the development plan or certainly
going forward. This is a real issue. We need to follow the development plan. We not need to follow the rules, the regulations, the resolutions all the way down the line. And in the past, quite frankly, we have not. Thank you. There are no further.
Uh, all right. Do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda? I motion to approve the consent agenda. I second. You got A and B and then they were going to discuss as as amended. Yeah. As amend as amended. Uh, do we have a roll call?
Commissioner Robinson, yes. Commissioner Maldon Maldonado. Vice Mayor Marriott? Yes. And Mayor Petrilla? Yes. Motion carries. All right. And so, uh, consent item C,
the purchase order amendment with Joe Payne for building and permitting services. I think u do you have questions? We had no presentation. Do you have a presentation for We do not have a presentation. We're happy to answer any questions. Yes. Um
my questions are it's a large amount of money and um I'm looking at that contract and that's a uh it's a piggyback contract for five years plus two extensions on that. How much are we paying per year? Is it 350 or is it uh
uh 600 which I saw in the the previous packet on that? Yes. So the piggyback contract took effect um August 3rd of 2022. So that was the beginning point and it's not an annual
fee. It's a per hour fee. So as they have different hour hourly rates for different types of support. So plans examiners are a certain hour hourly rate. We currently have a deputy building official on contract that is another hourly rate and so we pay for
the services they provide um by hour of what that service is. Do we have a list of those hourly rates because all I saw in our packet was from 2021 I believe it was a 202122
for the hourly rates. So, I don't know what they've gone up to. I just would be curious to see what the new, you know, five years later what the four years later what the rates are. Those are still the rates that are in effect. They are still in effect. And I just want to mention one more
thing. Um, so as part of this, because this contract, we piggybacked off of it well before the storms and then of course we needed additional services and hence that's when the 600,000 request back in December was made. Um, one of the things worth noting is we have
issued an RFP for personnel services for community development, both for blue skies and gray skies, which we're hopefully going to be making a selection in the next week or so. But that in essence is it to replace this contract. Um, so and depending on the timing, um,
you know, we'll be making that transition. Um but that I just wanted to note that because we um you know procurement it's not their you know recommended process to just continue piggybacking. Um it has worked out well and especially given the circumstances
but um our intent is to move forward with our own contract for those services um to continue you know for any additional personnel that we may need. My understanding we're paying roughly three times the amount out in the going market or what we would hire somebody at
on those rates per hourly. Um close to that. Yes. Close to that. Three times. Yes. Um and one we're we need one staff deputy position. Is that correct? Currently currently it's the building
official and the deputy building official as well as plans examiners. So, we need two staff positions and the other ones are just temporary positions or was one of those a staff position. Um, our intent is to not depend on any full-time staff positions. Our our our
goal is to proceed with recruitment for the deputy building official. Um, we have a building official that will be starting and then our our intent is to then recruit for the deputy building official and to have our staff that'll be city employees. And then so we'll only hopefully be tapping into these
services for those over and above needed services such as right now during the recovery efforts. Okay. So, and again, we're paying an hourly rate, not a contract rate of $350,000. Right. Correct. Okay. I just wanted to make that clear because I know that three times the
amount of rate in in, you know, if we needed to hire and we couldn't hire, I would be suggesting getting a head hunter out to get people if we needed to do that. if we can't recruit on our own because it would pay pay for itself in the long run uh on securing people for
the physicians. Absolutely. All right, that was my questions. Thank you. Do we have a motion to approve? Make a motion to approve. I'll second.
Commissioner Maldonado, yes. Vice Mayor Marriott, yes. Commissioner Robinson, yes. And Mayor Petrilla, yes. The motion carries. All right. So, we have uh our action
items. We have a resolution 2025-18, a resolution of the city of St. Pete Beach finding intent providing for a pause in the enforcement of setback requirements for temporary modular public safety buildings and zoning
districts that authorize public service uses providing for severability scrier's errors construction and an effective date and expiration date. Good evening. Brennan Barry, planner with the city. This is to address a modular building being installed on the
Suntan Art Center property just south of the Dons Cazar. Um there is an immediate need for it. It's a public safety need uh to get that um temporary bed modular structure set up. Um currently it cannot meet the setback due to existing site
conditions. We wanted to temporarily wave until fire station 22 is reconstructed um the setbacks where there's appropriate zoning for these uses in case this building needs to be swapped out in the future. Other structures need to be added as supported. Um we're just asking for the
power for the city commission to be a or sorry for the city manager to be able to provide those waiverss when needed. Thanks. Any questions for Brandon? Nope. Everybody's good. All right. Uh, do we have a motion to adopt?
I'll make a motion to adopt resolution 2025-8. I'll second. Vice Mayor Marriott, yes. Commissioner Robinson, yes. Commissioner Maldonado, yes. And Mayor Petrilla, yes.
The motion carries. All right. And next we have the final reading of ordinance 2025-10, the signed ordinance. Ordinance 2025-10, an ordinance of the city of the St. P Beach, Florida for the purpose of
adopting amendments to the land development code division 26 sections 261 through 2642 entitled sign ordinance to ensure contentneutral sign definitions, standards, regulations and requirements and adopting amendments to the
requirements for permitting, enforcement and maintenance for new existing and non-conforming signs in all zoning districts providing for codification conflict severability correction of scriveners errors construction publication and an effective date. This
is second reading of the ordinance. Good evening. Um this ordinance has been advertised in line with the city's requirements. We have not received any independent public comments since advertisement. So staff was directed to make a few changes from the first reading of this
ordinance about a month ago. Um we've made the modifications as we understand them. We did lower the height and square footage of signage to match the highest existing within the new grouped category. As I mentioned before, we had four grouped categories. We now have five. We've spun off the resort
facilities medium district as the signed standards in that district were much higher than the grouping that they were a part of. Uh so we did move that off to its own grouping. The other groupings have remained the same. In the commercial and Gulf Boulevard resort districts along Gulf Boulevard, um signs
are allowed to be 50 to 100 square feet depending on the frontage of the business. They are allowed up to 12ft tall monument signs in the downtown and the lower intensity mixeduse districts. Sign square footage has been reduced to 40 square feet and 8t tall. And again,
that is the tallest of the existing groupings um for any zoning district within the existing groupings that were proposed. staff has removed pole signs as a permitted sign type. Um we did preserve the right for variance to be requested to install a pole sign where
there is a genuine hardship. We've increased compliance time frame for sign maintenance and non-emergency situations from 2 days to 10. We have uh retained two days as the compliance time frame when there is an emergency situation.
And we've reduced number of election season temporary signs to the number of items on the election ballot. It was unlimited. Um, this is keeping in line with our current code. It's based on the number of items on the election ballot, uh, local election ballot. We've made a few supplemental
modifications to address the changes that were directed by the commission. Uh, the first was to set a maximum sign structure area of 200 square feet or 200% of the freestanding sign area. These are for those architectural embellishments that we talked about in the first meeting. Um, that is currently
a sign limitation of 135 square ft. We've increased that to 200 square feet, but that is not for sign face, not for the communicative content of signs. That's for the architectural embellishments, the base, the other features of a freestanding monument sign. We've removed monument signs as
permitted along Passway between 7th and 9inth Avenues. That is what is currently in the code. That was something that staff overlooked um before first reading. So, we just have modified that to be in line with the current code restriction. We've restored the depreciation compliance standard to 50%, that was the
one real significant restriction staff was proposing at first reading. Senate bill 180 has been signed. It is law. Um, so we have restored that to 50% to keep it in line with the current code standard. We have also changed state of emergency banner provision and waiver of
sign code compliance for well-maintained signs. Those are those local state of emergency bonus provisions for operational businesses. Uh, we had stated pre-torrm. I changed that to pre-damage just to cover other potential state of emergencies that aren't related
to a a hurricane should they ever occur. So, here are some examples just to talk about the distinction between sign area and sign structure area. You can see in red there on the Coral Reef Beach Resort sign. This is how the city currently calculates sign area. It would stay the
same. We would draw a box around any signage, any communicative content on the sign. So that would capture both the painted part of the sign as well as the LED sign. Um it would capture all of that content as part of the sign area. The sign structure would be the backing.
It would be the support. Um that would be included in that 200 square foot or uh 200% calculation. Looking at the yacht and tennis club, you have the text, you have the communicative content, and you have the monument surrounding it. Uh that is the sign
structure area. Here are some recently approved examples. These, of course, were approved under the current code, but they would still be permitted based on the forthcoming um ordinance. This is the Bellweather Beach Resort. It is in the large resort district. This is a sign that was compliant. It would remain
compliant. It's 12 feet tall. Uh that is the permitted height for a sign in this zoning district grouping. The sign face would be 43.75 square feet. That would be under the 50 square ft. That is permitted. They are allowed a double face sign. Those don't count against
them if they are double face and 180 degrees to one another. So that would be permitted. And then the sign structure has 96 square feet in area. That is less than the 100 square feet. That would be limited for a sign of of 50 square feet in sign phase. Another is the Remax. This is to replace
a pole sign that was destroyed in the storms. The sign faces 50 square feet that is permitted for the zoning. It's 8 feet in height. Again, that would be permitted for its area and it's a 71 square foot sign structure. That's including that base as well as the sign
face itself. Uh 71 square ft less than 100 square feet. We received a comment at the prior city commission meeting regarding any kind of disaster provisions. The current proposal is based on a city-wide local state of emergency. It's not specific to
any one property. If any property is eligible for it, all properties in the city are eligible. It's not based on any specific event that occurred at a specific property. So, looking for example at the Dolphin Village. Um, these state of emergency provisions would not apply to the Dolphin Village
independent of a local state of emergency, which we are not currently in. um if there is any intent to modify that to cover those more property level disasters or um inability to use the property, we would need to modify the language to provide for that.
So, with that being said, uh we ask for either a motion to adopt this ordinance or if you seek any kind of modifications or need to continue the ordinance to a specified date uh to receive more information from staff, we'd be happy to accommodate that. You have any questions for me?
I have a couple um vehicle signs. I see that we have them, but then we they're prohibited on cars. Correct. We we define we define what they are, but then we we we prohibited them. So like if you had a car with a sign on it, you couldn't have one if I'm reading that.
Correct. Or uh you know, lawn maintenance or anything like that. Correct. So, we we prevent vehicle signs and the reason we define and prohibit them based on the current code and we effectively just carry that forward is to ensure that we can define what a vehicle sign is. If we need to site um a
sign that's on a inoperable vehicle or a vehicle that hasn't been moved or is parked in a way that it can't be relocated, that would I see that, but it also just says it doesn't go into that into the prohibited side of it. I mean it it as I read it,
it when you take when you read both of them, it doesn't specifically say that on the prohibited. Let me find it again. I h I had mine all marked up and now I lost it. So, um let me get to definitions.
The definition is on page eight of 42. Thank you. Oh, I'm I'm prohibition section that you're looking at. Yeah, I'm in the agenda. So, it's not going to Okay. vehicle sign. Vehicle sign. Vehicle
sign. It just says this includes vehicle sign means a sign attached to or placed on a vehicle including but not limited to automobiles, trucks, boats, campers, and trailers. and that is located on public or private property can be viewed from a
right of way. Period. This includes signs attached to the following vehicles. On or offsite inoperable vehicles, junk or abandoned as defined vehicles that not been driven in 72 hours or vehicle with signage attached to it renders a vehicle not safe. So to
me, if I read it that this includes these signs, it also includes all vehicles, all boats, all campers, all everything and also include signs attached to the following is my interpretation of that that if you go to page 22 of 42, that's
where the vehicle signs as defined in this division and portable trailer signs are prohibited. Those are under the prohibited signs, right? I got to get there. Hang on. What's prohibited is is those lists of the vehicles that are inoperable or stay staying in one place for 72 hours or a
sign that would make the vehicle um unsafe to drive. It wouldn't be um say you had a wrap on your car for a real estate company or what you see a lot of these wraps now. As long as that car is operable, is driving around, is not just
parked out by the by the street for over 72 hours, that would that would not be a prohibited sign. So, if somebody has their car wrapped, but they don't drive it for more than 72 hours, then it's prohibited. That's where they would get in trouble. Yes.
Okay. Typically, you'll see them parked along commercial corridors, but but but according to this, it would be it would be against the code. If you had your car wrapped and it was parked in your driveway, or if you're a realtor, have a sign. If you if you just didn't go anywhere
for 4 days, then you'd be in violation of the code. I think so. Right. Pretty much. That's that's our current restriction. And Commissioner Robinson, I I I think I understand the distinction here. So because because of the first sentence is broader, the second sentence is more specific. So I think we can modify that.
That that is Yeah, that needs to be like just defined in there. Fix that. And I think the 72 and you can't go on vacation. I mean, if you work in the city and you have a car that you know, you can't go on vacation. Got to move your car. Got to hire someone to drive your car around for you. Let's go garages.
So we might um Any thoughts on that for extending past 72 hours? Yeah. Do you want to extend that to the commercial properties where people put box trucks out that says uh a big truck? I think we have much of that going on.
Sarasota. I'm not sure if they're here. Yeah, we could end up getting that. Um I think we could fix that if we started to be a problem, but Do you want to limit the 72 hours into a non-residential districts? Yeah, we could do that. Do it as a as a
non-residential. Yeah, that would so 72 hours would stand in non-residential I think would be exempt. Exempt. Yeah. Yeah, I would think that
would be Oh, and then I there was there was something else I saw, but now I can't find it because again, like I said, I marked mine up and now I it's not there. But I had a question. We got rid of free expression signs and then I guess we turned them into sort of a temp sign. Correct.
Right. But then we talk about so let's talk about there's no time limit on them. Is that how I'm reading this correctly? There's only a time limit on election signs and event signs. Nothing else. Free expression does not have a time limit.
It just one temporary sign. It could have any content on it that the owner desires. But yes, that that is it doesn't have a time limit. I just Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I was reading that correct and the interpretation of that as well. Um, those are probably my two questions.
I have two questions to see if anybody has any thoughts about them. One is, um, I think in the section on sandwich board signs being allowed, they're currently allowed immediately in front of the business. Is that correct? Correct. Yes. Um, and I don't know that
it would affect more than just a couple of locations, but for instance, in Dolphin Village, um, you know, the businesses that are in Dolphin Village, for a lot of them that are kind of tucked away, a sandwich board immediately in front of their business is still really tucked away. Is
there any reasonable way to make a provision where if a landlord allowed the sandwich board, you know, like in a in a multi-unit area, sandwich board would be allowed anywhere on on the the the entire property, not just in front of the
specific business. My concern on that would just be the the whole intent of the sign ordinance is not to litter G Boulevard. I mean, if we had every one of those businesses put a sandwich sign out there on along Golf Boulevard, that's going to be crazy.
Yeah. Now, if we're talking just specifically because we're in the situation with Publix having burned burned in in CVS, maybe that's something we could talk about as being, you know, an exception in in, you know, uh emergency situations
or something to that effect. Um I I would think we should be able to accommodate people uh business, small businesses in that effect. But I think in general having you know um 30 sandwich board signs lining lining golf
ball would be much and I wouldn't be for that. Okay. Um and that that in a case of emergencies was going to be my next question. So currently in this in the sign code as it's written it's it's like official disaster declarations. Correct. Um, is there any kind of reasonable way
to modify that so that you know in the case of like like what we had happen with the had happened with the fire where um I don't know if it would be reasonable or if the city manager would feel comfortable with something like that being under city manager control to
determine what's a what's a a local undeclared emergency that would that would give some relief or exceptions that would be inserted in page 30 and we could come up with some language and bring something back to you.
The sandwich uh board signs are on page 29 and we could look at the that probably works for most of the time. And then for these um local property specific fires and damage and emergencies, we can put some language
into section 2619. I think we discussed today that they were looking at a one one banner sign. Mhm. Um could you explain what they have now, Brandon, that they put up after the fire to try to alert people and customers
that they're open for business um but not litter too much. Right. It wasn't a a full construction area wrap. It was really just the banner, but I I have heard multiple requests to allow some additional signage. Now, would the commission like
to extend the banner and the well-maintained signage to individual events? Would you like to also add a sandwich board maybe as an option during those events? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because there's probably places where there's no good place to put a banner and a sandwich
board makes more sense, you know. So, if that could be an option and then and then I think all we would really need to do is extend the the um the provisions that we have in case of a disaster. If we just extended those to be something
that was also allowed in a in a local emergency basis as determined by the city manager, I think that would cover it. We discussed something similar to language around maybe a variance request. So it's more informal administratively. Mhm.
It's similar to what we did for the Donses when they wanted construction. I don't know if you recall that. Right. Construction on the Sunday or gave some authority to me to do these variance approvals for certain temporary w temporary waivers
were related to disasters. Is there there's no cost to that waiver? Correct. It was just a letter. So we had it documented. Yeah. And there was a public record that it had been the request had been made. the stipulations of the request and that the city manager had approved it in writing.
Okay. For the duration of the property damage emergency, we could make it. We bring some language back to you and continue this till the next meeting. Okay. I think we're almost there. I know. I think we're really close.
Close. I feel very close. But there was one other item. I'll come back later. It was I I how I read it, I think it's a typo. Um but I'll find it again and and I'll send an email to the
city manager to address it. Um okay. So, do we have to make a motion to continue or do we just Yes, please. If we could have a motion to date and time certain that way we won't have to readvertise. Okay. Vice Mayor Marriott, you do have a public comment on
Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, let's hear public comment. Deb Shner, Deborah Sheno, Pocusa Isle Drive in St. Pete Beach. Um, something bring a city good vibrations,
good landscaping, murals. So my understanding is that if you put a mural on your building and it does not have content of what you sell, for instance, the debate shop shouldn't be putting fish and hooks on the side of
the building. I don't see where murals were addressed here. And if we want to encourage the city to do some murals so we can be more in tune to what's going on in all the other cities and murals bring a huge
amount of tourism and in fact in um St. Pete they literally have a trolley with a guide to drive around and look at all the murals that we have in St. Pete. And I don't see this addressed, the murals. Um, I could
be wrong in this particular signage. Um, so I think that's something we may want to talk about whether we can allow the the bait shop to put some fish on a few hooks and make it really beautiful on the side. And this has to do with some beautifification as well as vitality, I
think, for our city. And uh, what about the people who already have certain signs that may not comply? Will they be grandfathered in? That's my two comments. Thank you. Just a comment. I We do have artwork in here, but it's uh two or
threedimensional um two of page two of 24. Yep. Okay. Or page three. Three or 42. I have Okay. I'm getting confused. Different page numbers. Yeah. Artwork means a two or three dimensional representation of a
creative idea that is expressed in an artistic form but does not in any way identify a business product, business logo or commercial message. It serves as a means of communication, expression and a cultural understanding. That was
something we discussed at the first reading. And that's allowed, correct? This our sign code allows that. Yes. Okay. Which I I'm I would take that as meaning a mural as well. Yeah. Yeah, it was intended to cover cover murals and um we do have a whole
non-conforming section in here for being grandfathered in unless there's unless they get the 50% just like everybody else like the rest of us. They're subject to that. Okay.
Okay. So now I think we're ready for a motion to continue. I'll make a motion to continue. um July 22nd 6 p.m. till July 22nd at 6 pm uh for the
resolution ordinance or ordinance sorry ordinance 202510 with its modifications at that time. Yes. I second. Commissioner Robinson. Yes. Commissioner Maldonado. Yes.
Vice Mayor Marriott. Yes. And Mayor Petrilla? Yes. Motion carries. All right. So, moving on to items for discussion. Commissioner Robinson. Um I it had just come to my attention. I was going through some of the items that
we've been talking about at length on the um peritting process and and some of the items there. um ordinance that we signed in 202419 needs some clarification under uh and that was the look back and it's there's
three categories under here which is basically one is all the costs attributed to a project and it outlines those of a contractor. It doesn't specifically say those of a homeowner, but then it throws some things into the
homeowner which you would imply was the homeowner category such as insurance, overhead, profit, some of those things. So, I think we need clarification on that going especially going forward into potentially another storm season so that
we have this is clear and concise and we don't get into any issues on it. I've been working with uh the city attorney and I've spoken with the city manager on this. So, I just wanted to bring this to the rest of the commission's attention.
This fits in with the discussion earlier about the significant damage calculations. Correct. Okay. Yep. So, I just wanted to be transparent that that'll be coming up. Been working on that. Perfect.
All right. Um, so reports, city clerk, I just want to announce that we do have two candidates for the November 4th special election. Uh, John Maldonado and
Mike Greger both qualified for the election. It'll be held on November 4th at the Warren Warren Webster building. So everyone will vote at the Warren Webster building. All of district four. Well, of course. Yeah. Yeah. because it's just district four.
Yep. Okay. Uh, city manager, just a quick update and thank you to staff who managed through the storms on July 4th to get those fireworks up in the air. Um, special thanks to Mandy Edmonds, our recreation director, and Chief Kilpatrick who got that tiny
window and I think our community really enjoyed the fireworks. So, just wanted to say thank you. All right, city attorney. Um, just wanted to let you know as of July 1st, a number of new laws u took effect in the state of Florida. We'll send you a
memorandum that details and outlines all the laws that affect the city of St. Pete Beach. Okay. All right, commissioners. Nothing. Uh, nothing to report right now. Nothing to report. Um, I just wanted to echo the city manager's comments about
the 4th of July. It was really fantastic even with all the rain to see so many people in the park and the fireworks and it was uh that was that was really great. Um and also the beach theater had their soft opening last week and they sold out uh two nights um which is
really fantastic and I know everybody on Corey is super excited about that. So congratulations to them. Uh Mayor, do you have anything to report? Nothing. All right. Well, in record time, I think we're adjourned.