call the city of St P Beach Commission meeting to order it is Monday March 10th 2024 it is 6:m let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance a pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and
to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liy and justice for all city clerk if you'll please do a roll call vice mayor mahand here commissioner Marriott here commissioner
Robinson here commissioner Riki here mayor patrilla here we have a quum thank you all right if youe please close a door in the back and have a seat if you please silence your cell phones the first item on the agenda our
presentation and it is with much sadness that the first item Falls to me for the city clerk Proclamation so whereas the city of St Pete Beach takes great pride in acknowledging and employees whose dedication and contributions leave a
lasting impact in the city and whereas Amber Lao city clerk for the city of St P beach has demonstrated exceptional commitment in serving the city the city commission and its residence for approximately four and a half years and
whereas during her tenure just to name a few things Amber Lao has played a pivotal role in enhancing the city's operations by implementing the ler laser fish document management software streamlining public records request procedures and leading comprehensive training for the city commission board
members and employees on the Sunshine Law and whereas Amber Loro city clerk for the city of CMP Beach provided crucial assistance and emergency operation centers during two major hurricanes that impacted the city and now therefore be it so resolved that on
this day on this 10th day of March 2025 the mayor and the city Commission of the city of St P Beach hereby recognize and commend Amo for her outstanding service her dedication and her significant contribution to the city the city commission and the residents of St P
Beach [Applause] [Applause] yeah I
am really very kind words and has been such a pleasure really has um to serve all of you and to serve all of you and to serve with the employees and my peers fell Charter officers um I really hope
that I will behind such a good Legacy for you guys and knowledge base of sunshine and public records and how to do motions so um yes I I can't thank you that I'm pretty speechless so thank you
thank you everybody for everything [Applause] next we have a presentation of pelis County poble Water
improvements good evening good evening even with heels it's always still too short hi am Susan goal canning I'm with pel's County Utilities I'm in the planning and project management division I'm here to talk to you about two projects that we are doing in the St
Pete Beach area the first one is passl and I believe there is a presentation yep next slide please very good um passag Grill water M this is an existing 16in sub aquous cast iron water meate it's reached the end of
its uh service life we had a leak on it we put a patch on it and right now we are working with the Army Corps of Engineers to get our permit to do the waterline replacement it'll include installing a 20in 24in hdp pipe which will increase capacity and the project
overall will help with the water quality issues um the new line will um be directionally drilled from 9th Avenue in St Pete Beach to 6th Street West in Tiara Verde
um as far as closures and impacts right now 9th Avenue will be closed but there'll be detours during construction that'll have signs and barriers to guide drivers tiarra verie will experience partial Lane detours on 6th Street West
and Monte chriso Monte Christo Boulevard the RightWay along Monte Cristo Boulevard from 6th Street West to 4th Street West will most likely be used as the staging area for materials homeowners and service trucks will still have access access to their
properties um and as of now no service as no water service interruptions are expected but if that were to occur we would give 48h hour notice through door hangers as far as timeline we're waiting for the Army Corps of engineer permit we're hoping to get that in the next few
months and construction will last about 180 days the next project we have going on is in the v delmare area and on 21st Avenue on maritana it's to replace a 12inch cast iron sub aquous water M this
one is also ending um nearing the end of its life it has not had a leak yet knock on wood 21st Avenue West of Passa Grill way will be closed during the drilling part of the subus line there will be traffic detours 2 22nd Avenue again with signs
and Detour setup North bound traffic on Gulfway will be impacted at the 21st Avenue intersection to make the connection to the existing water main and this should only last a couple of weeks no no work is expected to shut down pass the grill way at all staging
area for materials is not yet been determined on V delare the Bor pit is east of the West V delare Boulevard and 21st intersection so closure of the 21st will on the island will be east of this intersection
the vena delar water main replacement project is throughout the neighborhood it's again to replace aging pipe it's um there may be well it's going to be Directional Drilling and open cut as a way to help um limit how much yard uh
impacts we're going to have it's um the impacts to the ciens there might be some intermittent driveway impacts but the contractor will work with residents to make sure that they have access to their homes um there may also be some minor
traffic impacts in the area of work at the time the construction is expected to last about a year right now funding is in fiscal year 27 that could just change just depending on what priorities and how funding comes about right now we are preparing a
project websites so anybody who's interested in a couple of weeks I would say go check these websites out they'll have more information they'll be updated as um time goes on so we'll have a more definitive construction date start and um most likely we'll have a community
meeting before the vena delmare neighborhood project starts any questions refer to the website for the contact project manager or you may contact Colleen whtm at the main office any questions yes hi ma'am um so on the 9th
Avenue work um how much disruption would there be on 9th Avenue you may have said that I was having a little bit of a hard time hearing you the speaker the phone the uh microphone's a bit away from you there so it was difficult to hear what you
were saying what type of disruption would we be looking at for 9th Avenue and way in that area 9th Avenue will be closed detours will be set up during construction for this one um but there's
only partial lean detours on 6th Street West and Monte Cristo Boulevard and as far as passag gril I don't believe there's any impacts there so Pastor gr you mon Christo is terver so I I don't
want to say I'm not concerned about those folks but I'm I'm here for passor Grill not for um Tera verie so pass gr way will have shutdowns or detours Ora pass grill will not be impacted pass
a grill way will not be impacted right okay so it will only be 9th Avenue which will have a full uh closure yes for approximately 180 days so it it could be intermittent as well because while
they're doing the juring activities that's when you're going to see a lot of activity that um will take up the space that's needed um but up to 180 days so it depends on how the contractor wants to Stage their sequence of events
so as I understood it you anticipate and I know you're not committing to this because you don't control this um that we're looking at potential permitting being two months down the road um with
180 days of construction is is that a correct statement yes yes okay as it relates to maritana and 21st
Avenue I heard you say there is existing 12in pipes is that correct yes and what type of delays would you say I know you said it but once again I had a difficult time hearing microphone
way away from your mouth um what type of delays would we potentially be looking at in those two locations or detours so as far as delays in the project starting this one's funding
dependent and it's right now scheduled for fiscal year 27 there may be an opportunity to launch it earlier or later depending on how things turn out with the budget next year and then as far as construction time that project
will last a year give or take and that will include the drilling of the sub aquous line which is at maritana and then as well as the neighborhood water meain Replacements itself so the oneyear construction is
only is for the entire project not for specific areas of those two locations right so we wouldn't dictate what the con the contractor would do as far as what they're allowed to turn um how they will stage the sequence of
their activities we don't dictate that um but I would expect that there are certain portions that will happen at once in other neighborhoods or other streets will have access as if no constructions going on and then they would move to another block and they would work on that area so and I think
you said the the pipes that exist are 12 in is that correct did I understand that for the Vina dear so maritana the sub Aquis line that is a 12in cast iron pipe throughout the neighborhood I believe that range is from 2 to 10
inch and what about ven deore throughout the ven deore neighborhood between two and 10 inches about the main pipe I don't know that offand so we don't know if it's 6 8 12 16 I
think those are all standard size main pipes but at this point we don't know what size those pipes are I don't know it but we know it and I'll know it after I leave and I can look it up okay and what size pipes at maritana
and 21st do we anticipate putting in and that one we are putting in so it's a 12 in and if we do directional drill we most likely upsize that to a 16 size again I'm sorry probably up to a
size 16 it's under design right now so when you go from if you're going cast iron pipe and H highdensity polythylene pipe they're different inside diameters so you typically size up so both Lo Pati could get 16in pipes
or they could get 12in pipes and we don't know that until the design has been done both locations meaning meaning maritana or and 21st it's one drill it's one sub aquous drill that we're connecting at that
location so that pipe will either be 12 in or 16 in okay um maritana is several blocks away from 21st that's why I'm trying to understand it's that intersection where
the connection point will be made for this water line okay and then there'll be sub Runs run off that I would assume yes that will be I think you said two to six or 2 to eight 2 to 10 is what I understand okay all right thank you yes
okay all right thank you okay next we have the finance Erp overview thank you mayor commission I want to um introduce Candace Galloway our information technology director she's going to take the bulk of this presentation and I have a little few
pieces of it but we want to give you an overview of a wholesale plan to um bring uh St Pete Beach into the 21st century and our finance and HR technology spaces so um with that Candace fair enough thank you very much um good evening m Mr
Mayor and Commissioners um I'd like to take you through um a process that as Francis mentioned uh she asked that myself and uh finance and HR go through a business process um review for the Departments um that included um a lot of
discussion and analysis on the technology and the processes uh associated with the various departments and how the technology met um the needs of the of those departments um and so we we've been doing that for the past several months and so what I'd like to show for you here is uh we're going to
go through just a couple slides about the state of uh of that analysis and what we've what we found we're going to talk about the business process review and give you an overview of that and then we're going to talk about our recommendation and procurement process at the end and leave room for
questions all right so we have some pretty significant challenges that are um in existence with our current Erp system um today right so fundamentally we have a system system that is uh significantly outdated so it was put in
uh over two years ago and it is lagging behind basic IND industry standards we have made no updates or changes to that system um in the two years so it was implemented and it is as designed um two years ago we have had a number of issues with
regard to response times um whether it's uh you know critical outage or support need that we have as a department um we've had a really hard time maintaining uh getting support from our vendor and our provider to help us um resolve issues which have resulted in downtime
um sometimes significant downtime uh for the finance and HR teams um the system is also relatively prone to errors and difficult to trouble shoot so the backend complexity of the system and tools that we are expected to support and maintain are highly complex
uh very convoluted um to to keep up with um and require a significant amount of of our time to support and get up to speed um frankly they're development developer level tools um and we don't maintain developers on staff uh to support the application and probably one of the
biggest concerns that we've had as we kind of went through this process is the fact of the matter is when we implemented this system there are seven other modules that we did not Implement at that time so it is a partial implementation missing a lot of capabilities that the Departments are
going to need moving forward regardless of staying with the system or moving to another system so um in my time here I've I've attended some of these meetings I've certainly been a part of Plenty discussions around uh importance of transparency having Tools in place
making data accessible to to City residents uh citizens constituents and others and we certainly haven't been able to do that with the system and we we anticipate that's going to be a struggle if we move forward with this with this system so just a little bit on on how to
we get here um some of you are here some of you were not um I've been here just now uh two years myself when I joined um the city was implementing uh Central Square the finance Enterprise solution um and just after the implementation which was the first quarter um in
beginning of second quarter of 23 uh we lost our CFO um and with him a lot of the institutional knowledge about the system design um the vision the strategy the plan um all of that left um with him and was not maintained in the city was
not handed over knowledge transition about directionally uh what was built okay so that's one major concern as we kind of started to unravel this um ongoing things related to that we've had a number of uh staff attrition concerns
um over the two years we've had capacity issues where we have not had the capacity in the Departments to pick this project back up and start moving it forward and figure out how do we optimize this platform for City Services and City needs needs so you know fundamentally attrition capacity and a
failing Erp during this business process review we not only looked at current state of affairs and current state of the systems and processes but we were looking to discern what are our goals what are our strategies as we go forward right so you've got HR technology and finance or
a lot of internal processing for the city and and and a foundational component for how the city runs and operates so what are things that matter to us um some of those things are more about self-sustaining uh departments right not having to rely on technology and having simplified and streamlined
tools so that they can move at the agility and speed they need to move at um so it matters that we make sure that the tools they have are easy to use and they understand them they're trained on them and then the tools just over time are actually um built to our specification needs in our
processes we want to introduce more automation so not just here when we're looking at fixing the Erp or moving to New Erp we're looking at ways we can improve and put in automation throughout um throughout the environment throughout throughout their technology environment um both existing systems and anything
that we're going to bring in um and then we want to reduce the technology footprint where possible right so in my time here I'm looking to um take advantage of cloud Source Products SAS products as much as possible I don't want to bring a lot of footprint inhouse and expand that that's not what we're
looking to do um we're a small shop and we're looking to kind maintain and reduce the footprint as we go forward some other areas of importance to us um goals across those departments are improved data accuracy um we want to make sure that we can get data in the
right hands at the right time um and put some transparency around that process as every piece of data in this city needs to be made available and transparent to the enduser community to the end users in the city citizens and all stakeholders and so that's something that we're continuing to work towards
and that's something we're going to expect out of the next systems and services that we that we get we also have evolving regulatory obligations so um just this last year there are new tech technology obligations that the state has outlined for us that we must adhere to I suspect that that's going to
continue to grow and so it's important that any systems and services we bring in are going to meet those obligations if not exceed them all right so the business process review outcome so you know we've worked
very hard personally and myself and many others um across the the Department's finance and otherwise uh to bring our current partner to the table um unfortunately both our current circumstances and all past history uh
Behavior have demonstrated that Central Square Technologies is not interested in being a long-term viable partner for the city of St Pete Beach um the situation between not having the capability we need not getting the support that we need and the the response times that we need and the complexity of the tools
just to keep the environment up and running it's really become untenable right now Finance is also going through a restructuring so there's even more critical importance right on financial tools that the city needs in order to grow and move at the pace that
we're expected to and and that the strategic planning is starting to ask of us so it's at an all-time high those tools are critical and right now it's budget season and unfortunately because that module was not implemented we do not have a budgeting tool so the budgets
right now are manually done outside of a system so we're really at a critical failure point with the current system is really what I'm getting down to with these uh slides in the business analysis review to date so I wanted to go through a little bit of a cost analysis as well to help
you understand um what we put together um from a cost standpoint as we're starting to look at um um whether we reimplement Central Square Technologies or whether we migrate to a new Erp um and what I'd like to do is talk for a second about the fact that we have
been looking at um and and evaluating another product um called a Clarion and so i' would like to recognize that we have Andrew here who's been our contracted Finance uh director he's also the pr a principal at a Clarion right so he is the consultant for finance but he
also is a principal at the aarian organization he's here to answer questions that you might have about that product once we get through the materials so the cost uh slide hopefully it makes sense to you I I I put together a three-year view um whereby fy2 would
be and and FY 26 would be transition years for us there will be you know some cost overlay um and overlap as we migrate away from one system um and move to another or whether we completely rebuild the system we have in any case there is a substantial cost outlay to do
that um and outlined here I'm not going to go over every number but I will answer questions about any of it um as we go uh over the three-year term just to give you an idea we're talking about just a hard cost of roughly around 12,000 between 12 and $133,000 um net
difference this does not include soft cost savings and other um aspects of soft costs uh in this analysis this is purely subscription implementation and hard costs associated with the environments so $112,000 difference is
um small in comparison to what we will get so looking at these from a cost standpoint it's not really Apples to Apples in terms of capacity and capability that we're getting um and so I'm going to talk to you about that in a minute and show you kind of some of the the capabilities that we would be getting moving to a
Clarion immediately though the value contribution that I would expect we're going to get day one is it's a true Cloud environment so you can access any time from anywhere which for those of us sitting behind me that work in the tool on a daily basis bis or clapping silently um because it's very difficult
to get into our current environment if you're not sitting at a city desk within a city Network um and we're going to get immediately a reduction at Administration costs um the amount of time that my team which is a very small team of two and a half um that we spend on this environment is significant and
so doing away with that complexity and those tools is going to save U myself and have a lot of gains from a support standpoint all right right so I think um all of this you probably heard I'm kind of leading us down the path that we are recommending that we move away from
Central Square Technologies and finance Enterprise and move to O Clarion wow I'm overdue all right I'll I'll speed it up um our number one objective in moving um is transparency of data um meeting
compliance obligation um modernizing the environment uh and making data available and access accessible to all of you and and the residents of the city and so let me just hop to actually the next slide's probably a good one and then I'll uh I'll kind of skip down and we'll we'll
ask questions one thing I wanted to show here um is the citizen portal um one of the capabilities so we're really bringing in three brand new capabilities on day one we're bringing in a Vendor Portal with capabilities for vendor vendors to self-register and monitor and
track their progress on payments and statuses thereby freeing up the finance and other departments who are Happ to answer those questions um we're bringing in a citizen portal which will be baked into our website for uh budget and data information and drill down capability at a moment's notice that's real time that anyone can go look
at um when they so choose um and we're also bringing in a resident portal and that's going to contain forms that are automated once you complete them and fill them out um that get submitted directly into the finance system and they are processed through workflow and
approval and all transactions are managed automatically from those forms directly from the website into the finance system so this is a big one going to take two seconds of your time more to talk about one specific example someone wants a reclaim water adjustment today right now
they have to go out to the website they have to go to a specific site portion of the site print out a form fill it out scan it back in email it to someone in finance then someone in finance has to get that form go into an outside tool like Excel or otherwise do all of these
calculations they get the calculation hopefully right they submit it back to an approver in finance and then that approver once everything's signed off and it's reconciled takes that information and then re-uploads it to the finance system so that it can be a part of the journal entry and and
factored into general ledger okay and then by the way someone still has to go back down to the resident and let them know when this has been processed and so that's just one small example of how we expect that Resident portal to Pro provide a lot of value to the
city all right I'm going to I'm going to for sake of time um I think we talked already about user experience in modernization so I I think um I made my point there um mitigating turnover risk we've had significant turnover as you saw in my original slide so the intent
would be that with this system comes Professional Services whereby if we have a project need an ongoing need we're going to be able to reach right out to aarion and they will plug and play essentially those resources for that period of time right so um at a moment's notice which they already are doing uh
and doing a great job at it oops let me go back I want to skip over that one so this slide just kind of gives you a little idea of how we expect to pay for it so as I said that this year will be a transition year that will be some overlap of expense right now we
anticipate that there are GL accounts with salaries and wages of positions that have not been filled so we anticipate that it will largely be covered within budget so there should not be an an external or extra need at this stage that we would be reaching outside of the budgetary um numbers and
and availability that's already there and then just a bit on procurement really quick um we are anticipating right now that we are going through um piggybacking through a state contract um to procure this we've gone out to market we've done a lot of anal is on the
product itself we've talked to multiple communities gotten the reference materials and and had deep Dives with them on their uh happiness with the product and implementation and service and support so we're comfortable there um and we are also baking in new service
level agreements with regard to support ongoing training yearly audit and any other compliance obligations we have um I'm working with legal to bake that in so that this this contract will be done with a little bit of a sharper pen and more Focus um this just gives you an overview
if interested on a general timeline that we're targeting um obviously we're going into budget cycle right now so this is very compact timeline that we're working towards uh phase one would be working through the finance modules and getting those implemented first uh with with regard and that will take us really out
through Q2 um Q3 and then in Q3 we would start looking at an HR uh system and platform as well um to partner with this so that we have an integrated full in toin suite for our Erp systems I'll stop there I know I went away over time so my apologies but uh if
there are questions I'm happy to answer those thank you Candace questions comments commissioner Mar up thanks Candace um so on this last slide uh am I understanding this correctly that the
that the the the Clarion program that you're recommending doesn't currently have HR and payroll built into it that would be something separate that we would add on at a later date it is it's something separate that we would add on a later date but it would be integrated
into a Clarion from essentially from day one part of the implementation of an HR and payroll system will be the integration uh this go around where okay yeah perfect thank you yes what other products did we look at really fundamentally we looked at our
rebuilding and reimplementing our current platform completely um and we looked at a Clarion by and large we did not go out to Market and look at other products and services necessarily um we did a thorough deep business process review with a lot of gaps outlined I'm
happy to share any of that material with you and we had uh aaren come in and do some deep dive demos on each and every one of those and how they're going to fulfill that um and we and we put that across a lot of teams within the organization from across fun functional planning and validating standpoint so we
did not go out uh and look for other products what are other cities use well there's um many other cities can use you know there there's a variety you have sap um workday um there's many commercially viable products um but
several in our regional communities have a Clarion um some still use Tyler Technologies which was an old platform that we had prior to Central Square right so we've had a few of these um in re not recent years but in the past um the plan is to move and stay and get the
product and and service level we need how how long is the life expectancy on a program typically in my experience um you know 10 plus years I mean we we should not be switching these products on a regular basis um yeah that that'll
be change fatigue that the organization is not going to want to deal with I don't want to deal with it yeah so much longer 10 plus years thank you yes ma'am all right City man mayor if there's no other questions I would like to just take a brief moment to introduce
Devon Schmidt who is in the back I'm gonna ask her to come up here but she is our new Finance director and uh she will be one of the key Partners in with Candice to implement this this software so if you just want to say hi Devon and introduce yourself really quickly and
then we can wrap up here good evening um mayor and commission Devin Schmidt um as Francis mentioned uh brand new with the city of St Pete um I'm coming from Durango Colorado um served a residents population there of um just under 20,000 and I'm really
looking forward to learning about the city of St Pete Beach and um how I can best assist the city so thank you thank you Deon welcome thank you okay all right next we have approval of the agenda are there any amendments of
the agenda as proposed I have a couple changes okay commissioner Robinson um one I'd like to do motion to extend the first reading um of ordinance 20254 to allow more time for staff to
work towards finalization and to further negotiate um I think it's in the best interest of all parties um with an expectation of uh being ready for May 1st Turtle season this is
the that would be the beach ordinance okay mayor and Commissioners I just heard 20254 the beach ordinance is 20252 Oh wrong one did you is that what you want for the record thank you city clerk this is why you should just stay here
yeah oh yep 20252 okay 20252 I stand corrected okay um and then the this kind of would also help this extension would also help to allow us to continue focusing on perming um and which leads
me to a discussion item which would be the HVAC um replacement SL exchange I think there's some confusion on that especially looking at other ities okay may I have one thing so on the
agenda it's advertised um ordinance 20255 audible noise and it's identified there that that's because it was inadvertently advertised and so because of that we have to put it on here we do not need to open that item um I do not have any public comment because this item it will be a workshop on April 22nd
there is no public hearing when there is a new public hearing we will advertise appropriately at that time okay are there any other proposed amendments to the agenda okay is there a motion to adopt the agenda as amended I make a motion to
approve the amended March 10th 2025 commission meeting agenda Second City Clerk if you please do a roll call commissioner Marriott yes commissioner Robinson yes commissioner Riki yes vice mayor mahand yes mayor petrilla yes
motion carries thank you okay just to clarify for those of you the beach ordinance was moved to a later date that's what just happened okay just in case anyone's here to speak
on that okay next we have the Helen and Milton recovery efforts presentation please welcome thank you first time good evening mayor and commission my name is
Laura Canary Community Development Department and I'm going to go through the latest updates for helain and Milton recovery efforts thank you Laura so we're going to go over quickly just the an update on the permitting processing
damage determinations let's let's give him two minutes or two seconds or thank you I couldn't hear thank you no problem and then we're going to go over the appeal the volunteer program and an update on
Elevate Florida so I know we highlighted this last meeting but I just wanted to touch on it again since it is an important one and we do have this on our website as well there are two options as far as pulling the permit but we do have a preferred approach again this is really
just so that we have all of the information kind of under one umbrella um the alternative approach is it is allowed but again we ask that as every permit is pulled if you have that cumulative running total so that again it all goes towards the total in the end
Laura if you just a quick question back on the previous slide I guess it's yes okay so if if we're telling people look you can pull pull a roof permit right pull your
window permit pull your AC permit right get the structure and then pull the rest of the permits right just kind of Staggering it mhm but let us know you're doing everything at at some point right yes okay so with by not having a look
back period what's the purpose of saying here's everything I'm going to do to again have that cumulative running total but if we don't have a look back period then it's you can open your permit close your permit
the only benefit to doing this alternative approach m is to beat hurricane season so if you don't think you can get all of that done and you open a a major repair permit that Stacks Plumbing electrical roof and you can't
wrap it up before the next storm if that permit's open MH that counts of course against you so that's the only benefit is if you want to close those individual permits and it erases that the look back you're talking about because as soon as
that permit's closed it's gone I understand I I'm asking what's the purpose of saying in advance here's everything I'm going to do but I'm only applying for this part because we have to prove that you were not substantially damaged okay yeah back to the
50 thank you and with one question just really quick because it's mentions one permit application does that mean you you can you can only have one permit open at a time correct no that no you can have more than one permit open at a
time okay I'm hearing different that's why I'm asking so okay for for different items so you're hearing that there's um more than one they that some residents have reached out to say that they can't open another
permit until they close a permit I do not believe that's the case but I can follow up on that and get you an answer for sure thank you so next I know that this um question has came up as well regarding elevations required for exterior equipment so we did just want to touch on it um as of
now you know there's it's really kind of a matrix of how things are factored in looking at the flood zone and then of course looking at um the the liar elevation of grade and that information is available through penis County's GIS application but it is not available
there's not a public interface for that so those are factored in and then you need to go one foot above the flood zone from there so that's where you'll see that the liar and the height raised above will equal one foot over the flood
zone and we are going to be updating the website with additional information and we also are going to be communicating with pelis County to see if there is any way that there can be some type of public interface that there that then people can look up that information on their own because right now they need to
come to us and then we're getting them that information in turn Laura I'm sorry I I didn't tell you this ahead of time so I did I was able to get in touch with uh M um the city of
Treasure Island and they are applying a different policy right now so I'm in touch with that city manager to find out how are they um they're basically asking for a flat 32 in to be raised if it's a single story home so we're in touch with
them and their building official to find out how they got to that interpretation out of the floring Florida building code and we'll also have answers next time yeah and we talked about this today about Madera Beach Madera Beach has a 30 inch on on a document dated March 3rd
this year but then they have the BFA document back in October but they're still going with the March document so there is some confusion on that on which way we only need to go and and I know residents are very concerned about that too where you need to put your HB next um this information as well was
added to the website but just wanted to note an owner Builder um that's coming in with an application must sign in person at the permit desk so please come in and do that if that's your intention and then we also had some questions unfortunately as we know when we're in a vulnerable state there's not always good
things happening out there and so there were some questions as far as um inspection go we just want to note that anybody that is working on behalf of the city whether they're a city employee or whether one they're one of our contractual employees working with us they will have a badge looking similar
to this is um the badge on the bottom of the screen um so by all means ask to see that that ID and then if you have any questions beforehand you can call the number on the screen but you know we we want to make sure that safety safety is our of our utmost concern so when in
doubt please call us first um before of course letting anybody into your home an update on the numbers so today we've had 3,200 I'm sorry M Resnik has a question on on the prior slide um could you help clarify this has been a big my
phone has been ringing a lot especially today and over the weekends for this particular second bullet on inspectors from the city coming in can you clarify to the the public what what this inspection is all about as far as for why they would be
coming back out this why are they knocking on people's door asking for an inspection or for questions that people not only are they lary about someone they don't know not knowing the badge and not knowing this process I think this has been going on for about three
weeks now um people are nervous right this is something that even myself I couldn't explain over the phone as to why there's someone coming asking questions like what's what is the goal what's the purpose well I don't want to speak for all because of course there
could be oneof but from what I've heard and heard from the team the majority of those are those where they've received maybe a substantial damage documentation and they've appealed that and so we're going back out to inspect that and and so that's number one number two is we
are in the process there you know we were still waiting on some data that we didn't receive and so we've went ahead and taken the initiative to start the inspections on those properties because there was quite a few that we just didn't receive the information from so we have inspectors working on that as well to make that initial
determination okay so recap is clarify the data that might have been incorrect on the substantial damage letters that people have received and um the 800 I think so I know you'll probably get to one of those pres that slide soon that
have not received a letter yet okay thank you commissioner Robinson I just it was same thing I was going to ask if it was the people because I know that there are some people in our community who have not received their letters yet correct so I don't know if they might be waiting on that or the other people have
called in for stuff yes and we've now taken the initiative to have our inspectors going out start is it possible to have like because I know everybody's not watching you know this live um for them to have some kind of informational like consistency so that
when they do approach you know they're knocking on the door or they can give something to the resident to understand their purpose this is not you know um they're hearing I say today I had a call the the resident said well they said they're from Louisiana it's a company
from Louisiana why is Louisiana coming over here so again they get very fearful as you know worried as to why someone is here not even from our city there's someone from Louisiana you know so there
there's a disconnect and again my phone rang today often because of I know they were in the Donar area and they went ventured off to pass the grill today so I know a lot of people did get these knocks on the door um early this morning or it
could be just an announcement that of what areas maybe they're going to yeah that would help too that would um and you could alert people that you know that are waiting for their somebody to come or waiting for their letter yes and and we'll talk with the um staff as well
so that we have some consistent terminology so that when they are because I know sometimes even just that you know maybe it someone knows it as an sdsi and vice you know so um we'll make sure so that that way when they are going out if someone even is aware of what they should be asking then we can
kind of marry that up with the inspector going out to the properties thank you so these are the numbers to date um we again had a goal of 60 a day we're going to closer to that goal at the current on average is 42 a day and of
those um that we've received you can see that uh 2,411 have been issued and then we have 198 approved we need additional information on 229 195 are in review and received not
in in review just really means that they're received and kind of in the queue to determine Next Step so they're not in a re formal review process quite yet digging a little deeper into the assessments um based on we've had
20032 letters mailed of those 1487 deemed substantially damaged or nons substantially damaged and 88115 substantially damaged and again this is um a f a further breakdown on the bottom
showing the commercial and residential breakdown for substantially damaged and non-s substantially damaged and again we have the aster there just showing that again um when we talk about these determinations These are based on the first round and those first round of
um inspections and the information that we were given of the appeals that have been submitted to date there have been 541 approved and 139 in progress and it is not noted on the slide but I I do want to note because it was in in the last uh
presentation we have zero denied so at this point none of those that have appealed have actually then you know been told you know that they've been denied so we're working towards that and again we're hopeful that now that we've taken the initiative and have our inspectors going out that we'll hopefully have a little bit uh cleaner
data to begin with and less appeals at the end the volunteer program um I again just want to thank thank all the volunteers that have participated in the program and it's um you know we're we're
so appreciative as a team I can tell you that it's been really helping um Community Development as a whole and in talking to the volunteers I know that as part of the next steps um we've kind of determined two things we think that there may be a little bit of an influx
of um need and questions coming up because one of our next steps is going to be we've received information from those um property properties that have had you know received funding from FEMA and so we're going to be comparing that to which properties we have permits on
where we don't have a match we're going to be um we're going to be sending a letter to those Property Owners letting them know that this is the information that we have and if you'd still like to take advantage of the the permit waiver then you know please come in but we also anticipate that that might cause another
influx of of again questioning so we're going to be working with the volunteers to address those questions um one of the volunteers also has been compiling a list of kind of most frequently asked questions or things that they've been
running into so our thoughts were that we're going to be getting back together as a group and then taking those questions and getting that information on the website so that it's readily available but then also using that to kind of guide this next stage that we're talking about with the outreach program
kind of being able to tailor that program again based on this next kind of stage AG if you will and then those frequently asked questions that we're receiving uh Elevate Florida the the website is launched and the applications are being accepted um to date there's
been 400 excuse me 46,000 so um applications and again those cover structure elevation mitigation reconstruction acquisition Demolition and wind mitigation the website is on the bottom of the page if anyone would
like additional information just to bring it to pelis a little bit closer um so the breakdown of those 4.6 1.9 of those were in penis County and you can see the breakdown of what those applications were for and
Elevate Florida is actually having some workshops in the area so anyone that's interested in learning more about the program and what type of assistance is available can scan the QR code um these are again they're actually this week but we wanted to get the information up
there you do not have to be a resident of the other neighboring communities to go to the workshop in in those areas it's kind of you know again they're all this week so if anyone is interested in learning more they can scan the QR code they can also reach out to our office
for additional information I'll be happy to answer any questions thank you commissioner Robinson I think I might have another expansion on the volunteer program I'll talk to you about I had a gentleman call me today just in regards to um yards and
uh overgrowth uh scenarios and he actually volunteered his time to to help Mo on some properties you know in neighborhoods that people aren't home and it's you know basically getting overgrown so I'd like to we'll talk
about that a little bit more see if that's viable commissioner mahol yes ma'am I I just want to make sure I understood the graph so we've accomplished 99% of the SD non SD
examinations is that correct yes and and that's from start to finish meaning data uh inspection data entry letter creation no those are the initial inspections so that number has
somewhat been stagnant because that's including what we're now going out to inspect that they they we basically had been provided 99% of the data that was needed so where's the so what's the
outlying percentage on that and what is the bottleneck meaning is there 10% still in process and if if so what's the bottleneck on that 10% is it data entry
at our level or is it data entry at the county level or exactly where's the bottleneck it's it's kind of in in two parts so there's the properties that we still need the initial inspection for
which we spoke about that that our inspectors are now going out to obtain that rather than waiting on that information to come from Title Basin and then second to that there's those that received the substantial damage assessments say and that are now maybe
appealing that because of the information that was um they maybe feel uh there were assumptions made that weren't accurate and so we're going again back out to make the re make those redeterminations I think when you look
at these numbers right we've got 2883 assessments completed right and and then we've sent 2302 letters where are the other 600 what's happening with those are are we waiting on what are we
waiting on was that the question yes okay I can read his mind getting good uh pending they're being reviewed okay so the so the bottleneck there what we're waiting on to issue those remaining 681 is just review by staff yes that we
can send them out and the review by staff takes some time because we may have had some issues with those previous 2302 correct so we're being extra careful before we send those out exactly yeah thank you thank you Mr Mayor I did have a question about these
numbers again so when you look at the total number of Assessments 2883 that the assumption is that that's 2883 homes that we assume we're impacted by the hurricane or 2083 homes and businesses correct
correct okay so when you look at the number of permits that were requested that's significantly greater than the number of properties is that because as commissioner Riki pointed out earlier somebody might have pulled two permits for that same property so the number of permits pulled is not an indication of
how many homes have pulled permits but rather just how many permits in general because you might have had multiple permits on on the same property you could have multiple permits or you could have had a permit pulled on a nons substantially damaged property that's not being captured in that number
okay thank you also the Condominiums could have been assess they're assessed as one structure right but the multiple units they're coming in with multiple permits so you could have had the svette which has 50 or 75 units
on the first floor that's one property but that's 50 permits correct okay thank you m all right any further questions just if you don't mind going back one more on the Florida Elevate on the very first Florida Elevate
slide okay so I think the understanding for most people is that this is only if you want a razor house but they actually do cover other things besides just raising your house yes so I I looked at a house with a resident just a couple days ago and they had no hurricane straps at all on a house that was built
quite a few years ago so the second floor was just sitting on top of the first floor so that would be wind mitigation if they wanted to put those hurricane straps in those tie downs and improve the structure now is a good time to do and that might be something that this grant program could facilitate yes
and and I think that's uh kind of reflected well when you see their little infographic of the you know wind mitigation and mitigation and reconstruction both equals 619 but not all of the 619 you know there's 1.1 structural elevations so you may have
just had wind mitigation and no need fore when mitigation need and no need for elevation right okay so if you're doing anything that hardens the structure apply for it worst case scenario they say no or at a minimum go
to one of the workshops and and be able to get you know at least a little bit of the your answers um to questions that you have to know if you should maybe go forward with an application do you know if they're putting those um meetings also
virtual or they just in person I do not know but I'll find that out and we'll get that information cuz we intended to put these on the website so we were just a little late with it being this week so but we can definitely if they're going to be recording them we can we can put the link to that excellent thank you
Laura okay uh those were the presentations next we have audience comments city clerk do we have any general audience comments if you please state your name and add address for the record yeah Grant izy 203 59th Avenue
okay so I'm going to do the same thing I've done for almost four months now talked to you about permitting on on behalf of the many residents that I talked to they want you to look at better ways to get expedited
permitting and the best way to do that is we know the type of damage that most people suffered they want to put their homes back into the original configuration we know for the most part that substantially damages if they do have to go that route they'll get an
appeal and it'll be approved so I'm asking you again to consider this it's not a difficult ask we can an affidavit signing they can sign that they will adhere to all inspections and all building codes and we can get them Prof
process through through quicker why do we need to do that well you just heard a brief again tonight that they're we're expecting more permits to come right those people that haven't submitted permits yet so we can we can put all the Manpower on this like like we've done
but when we run out of the money for the Manpower we need new processes why are we opposed to the processes we still have 800 right now residents or businesses that don't have permits more coming and we're and we're also not showing how
many people are getting back in their homes which is our primary goal right that should be our lead metric we haven't really changed any processes in the permitting office yet and that's what I've been asking you to look at why not why not change the
processes who is benefi benefiting right now from the status quo nobody not the residents not the businesses and not those who rely on employment for their livelihoods here
actually there's one group of people right now that that is benefiting from our folks not getting in their homes quicker and potentially having to sell their homes that's Realtors right and Real Estate Investors those are the people waiting
to take the properties because we don't get our folks back in their homes they're going to put them up for sale and it's happening how many people have to lose their homes before we think out of the box and come up with better Solutions that's all I've been asking for we need
to stay focused on the real needs of the community that's the lives and livelihoods of those people that are in this city thank you thank you for your comments Jack rice please state your name and address
for the your record Jack Rice 612 East maritana Drive yes sir this is on the 5G Vari or AT&T tower thank you for your service by the way um I guess there's some people working on this but uh Duke
Energy put a new pole in front of our house 20 ft from our house supposedly there's a ordinance that say it's got to be 500 ft apparently we now have five more going up um they're going to put a 5G AT&T disc on top of this pole that is
now three times theze what it was before um Duke Energy was extremely rude their subcontractors were extremely rude they blocked the road off wouldn't tell us what it was for and now we just had a meeting down at a park on Saturday or um
to try to to figure out what's going on I think leas is working on some sort of proposal for this but we oppose putting a 5G Verizon or AT&T disc on top of the pole that's within 20 ft of our house thank you you
sir if you please state your name and address for the record sure Kelly lee mcfrederick 3612 East maritana Drive and just one quick comment to the guy who talked about Realtors I'm a realtor we don't want your properties for sale we don't want to take these in a flood zone we love our neighborhood that's not what
we want to sell at all um I realize there is some money to be made but Ian I'm very sorry about that um that being said this is my 60th birthday do you think I want to be with you all happy birthday love you all but not where I want to be point being said this
is so important to us we have been through my heart is beating because we've been through so much with the hurricanes and we feel like we were told unannounced that while you're not looking we're going to put a a poll twice three times a size 25 ft from my
house of a cell phone tower we bought this as a retirement home I'm 60 he's 62 almost and we don't want this for our health we don't want this for our values he's an insurance we may lose our property insurance we don't know the radiation Fallout that's why there's a
500 foot rule that says this you know I think in 1996 and then into 1917 there's excuse me 2017 there's been some rules but nothing's been updated as as to what will be those are 2gs 3GS 4GS we all know what it's going to be and I will say Betty and I will say Francis
say I emailed you more I'm really waiting for some responses because we are hurting and because we have enough things that we have gone through and we've been blindsided by this that we weren't even had a right to contest and just for the know we have that port hole
that was put in front of us do you know how many concrete holes I have filled up concrete barrels and barrels of concrete because that was not filled in my 1926 seaw wall has had holes so I fill it myself they said they said they've sent an engineer NADA fill it myself um they
pulled my sidewalk out because we needed a repair didn't tell me the day my dumpster was coming from my roof ruined six feet of my pavers we had to pay for that my husband was told to f off by the person who was who was in charge of this by the same when he called and he said hey can you help can you give us notice
he was told those words and we are I I got $150 back for the plants that was destroyed next to us we know there was an issue with my dock which is now preserved but this is in front of my historic dock by the way my dock is 1926 reserve and there's the cell phone tower
in front of us and we love we have 60 pilings at my dock nine of those we have put concrete around we love our home and I'm frustrated with my property values are not protected we want to be people we don't feel represented we feel hurt and we have litigation going on
Wednesday a big one of mediation with the contractor who destroyed the ceiling of our garage not of our fault but because of the Hurricanes not ceiling we we have enough and I'm here because I am so vibrantly angry and passionate and
everything and I need you all to look at me and say these cell phone towers do not want to be anywhere in this neighborhood not blunch in front of my house I have a beautiful home I appreciate that thank you thank
you Rob says Rob say on please state your name and address for the record Robert isan 4506 Golf Boulevard you want to raise the microphone Roberts is on 4506 Golf Boulevard so I am here because I am one
of those frustrated people that are still waiting for a permit as well I was here what four weeks ago talking about my permit for a fence permit and here we are now it's going to be 7even weeks and I still don't have a fence permit what is taken so long to get a
fence permit I mean just go on to Google Earth take a look at it it was an existing fence same linear feet same everything and we're just replacing a simple structure no hvc no Plumbing so I know you said there's priorities for other permits Mr Mayor but this is a simple offence where you can get this
one off your desk quicker and raise the percentages for how many permits you're actually issuing so it's a win-win for the city to get these permits issued as quick as you can I just want to play a quick recording here for you development review offices are closed we are
offering extended hours for for inperson permitting support Monday through Friday from 7:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Saturdays from 8:00 a.m. to noon to help citizens with storm damage recovery we this is pelis County pelis County if you want to get a permit they're there from
700 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturdays 8 to 11: the problem we're failing here is we're only up four hours a day that's it 9 to1 how are we talking about residents first and getting residents back in their homes if we can't even get them into here to get a permit that's the frustration yes we have fantastic
volunteers I'm grateful that we got volunteers thank you Le for getting those volunteers but we need to be open longer hours to get people in here so they can actually get their permits so that's the big issue pelis County I went there in 20 minutes I was in and I was out and I walked away with the permit and that permit was a lot more difficult
permit than a fence permit but it was in and out so I urge you guys to fix the process get expedited permits going and let's get residents back into our homes I have a lot of those residents actually in my hotel as you guys know I'm housing all the fale residents in my hotel our hotel is exclusively be open that
expires on April 10th so they're all very worried if they're going to be able to get into their properties by April 10th because April 10th is a deadline I know for you guys as well in the city you guys have Bill 1206 I believe it is where FEMA is actually paying or extra people whatever you need manpower to get
these things done and that expires on April 10th for you guys as well so I encourage you to use those FEMA funds hire more people whatever you got we're down to the last month today is March 10th April 10th is a month away so we literally have a month to get people into their homes so I hope you guys do the right things get people into their
homes and get these permits expedited as quick as you can especially the easy ones I mean come on those are the ones that literally take two minutes Google dir stamp it get it on its way get it off your desk and that's another percentage Point going for your favor thank you very much for your time thank you for your
comments if you please state your name and address for the record yes zoom in little more zoom in we could thank
you John kersman be he on way um someone came to me recently um and said you know there's really an 80% rule um 10 or 20% of the people complain to the city and the city commission hears that and they react to
it and they try to fix the problem but are they really hearing from the 80% that are happy or do we then that 80% have to come forward at the first reading or the second reading to say wait stop don't fix that it's not broken leave it alone leave alone what's
working and when I think back there's so many times that that I've seen the city not just in this Administration but you know previously trying to fix problems that that that there's some people that have complained but but but you know it's not really a big problem and and
and and then it it gets drawn out of proportion and and then what happens is what about our overall process we have a first reading and it catches people by surprise in the middle of a week and then by that Monday or Tuesday night people have to have their comments in and then a couple weeks later there's a
final reading and people still don't even understand the ramification of what's happening and I think that it's really it's really hurting our city that that's the process it's not it's the city didn't invent this process this is the way it is in Florida but I'm I'm just saying that it and this was the
feedback from from other people that are just so frustrated they said they've been you know they're out of town most of the time right now and they're watching this on on TV and they're saying you know they're they actually were thanking me for a lot of the times that I've been making comments but they were saying
that you know what's can we fix this because you know change isn't the goal they just we want to see that people get a chance to step back and really figure out what's needed and and and so that's why i s a memo to you guys recently you know I had to do this at work for
everything you need a problem you need the impact you need the recommended solution and I'm also saying maybe we also need to say what's the cost of the solution what's the intended I know we have to do a business impact estimate not business impact statement business impact estimate dollar value but also
what's the unintended consequences of anything we're doing you know have to step back and say good idea but what what are the unintended consequences uh I don't know if you're saying you're not going to have the beach ordinance tonight but really what I think we need to do if we're not having is we need to
have a workshop that was what I think we're going to try to do is we want to sit down and we have a great opportunity right now and I think the businesses are interested in doing it too sit down together and try to talk together about what might work and I really commend Lisa for the motion that she did that
we're not just plunging ahead and doing things that we're going to try to you know maybe we can come up with something that that would be of value and this is going to be a great time to bring people together um and then you know here's just one thing one topic was just alcohol this was an article that just I got just two
days ago on my feed it wasn't deliberate wasn't looking for it but this article is about the the alcohol laws around Florida every Beach is different we could spend time just trying to react to the that emergency right now like how do you you know how do you fit in thank you thank you sir Mr Mayor may I make a
comment please certainly so I understand exactly what Mr Cruz man's saying and in the abstract um it makes perfect sense unfortunately it seems at least once
again since I started paying attention two two and a half years ago that in the absence of a first reading uh nobody pays attention and our committees don't do
enough uh to move the ball forward so the only way to get anything done done here is to create a shock and awe moment or moment that forces people to pay
attention and that's unfortunate and and I do agree with what he's saying that the the process should and could be better but once again people are going to have to engage if they don't
engage the only way to get them engaged is is to do a first reading I mean in recent months it's been very obvious once we do a first reading people start paying attention they start communicating uh I would say that in
many cases they bring Outsiders in um that isn't necessarily productive to what's best for the community and best for this particular city um but I don't have the answer to me the answer is right now we have to do first
readings and then move the ball from there and um that's not ideal in a perfect world but that's been my observation so I just wanted to make those comments thank you commissioner if I could just add if we just avoid the
second reading being so quick if we I mean I thank thank you Mr kersman we've had a month since the first reading uh and I I agree with both of your sentiments and I had a conversation just recently with the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce
and said well how come you don't reach out to the all the hotels and I said well I have 9,000 constituents I can't call every single one of them every time we have an ordinance that comes up and to your point this is the first time in three years that we've brought this that
we brought this ordinance back and forth that they've actually reached out than want to sit down and talk why because we're moving it Forward every other time everybody knew no one's moving anything forward and so no one came no one said anything no one
came to the table to say okay how do we make this better right we had everybody that was happy with the way it was and then we kept revising and revising it and so now now that we actually can have honest conversations with stakeholders because
they're engaged well now we can make those adjustments now we can make those tweaks right we're not making major changes we're talking about tweaks here right which is I guess which is why we're looking to you know push it back in
another month and a half um but that's that's the process the process is we bring a first reading that is the public notification right and then you know we allow generally a fair amount of time in between whether it's a month or
sometimes longer uh and also it depends on the public feedback right if the public says look we're great with the first reading everything looks great then then we move forward if we get a lot of calls and emails and feedback then we make adjustments that is that's part of the process is listening to our constituents and say okay what do our
constituents want are they happy with this ordinance you know and and the other part is none of these ordinances come out of just random thin air right they all have a purpose behind them there's reason why there were staff time and legal time invested to bring these forward because there was a genuine need
that was perceived by the commission or the staff from our constituents and so we respond to what our constituents tell us if they tell us look I think this needs to be adjusted that's a reason we're doing parking studies that's a reason we're doing fee studies is because our constituents are telling us look the parking on this street is just
unbearable right it's it's all as a response to a need that the commission or the staff perceives so that we can improve the quality of life for our residents and I do thank you for your comments I said in general I do I do agree with you and your sentiment um I
think there's just more to it city clerk Deb Sher for please state your name and address for the record Deborah shna basa Isle Drive in St P Beach I do appreciate the two
presentations because quite frankly they were easily understandable was not a lot of initials and jogging and I felt it was concise and um clearly stated and I really do
appreciate that so I guess we have good new people here I was at Home Depot today and um looking at some appliances for someone else and there were other people there from other cities and I will tell you every single one of them said the permitting process has been
awful horrible excuse me worse I'm sorry worse than they can possibly have imagined this is going on in every single City and I will say we are in better shape than some of the others who still have sand piles and beaches closed I want people to know that I also want
to say you know happy St Patty's Day because that's coming up and I know there's a lot of things going on not only in St Pete but here I think I need to know a little bit more about the um 5G
Towers to my dismay I have not looked into them but to think that a very large poll can be put it in front of your property without uh City input I assume they did not or did they get a city permit that's unconscionable they
shouldn't be allowed to do that and if they put it in front of my house I wouldn't be happy either it's it's not right there are places for these things and in front of a home a residence and your values are devalued
in a sense by a certain amount of money I want to thank thank everybody up here who's done so much for everybody I know some people think there can be a 15minute permit it's not a 15minute anything in this world pretty much you can't go
anywhere and get something done in 15 minutes so to me that's really kind of funny and obviously not going to happen and again have a great week and celebrate St Patty's Day responsibly thank you thank you
Ruda H police stat your name and address for the record hi my name is Ruda Hance I'm at 7711 coin Way St Pete Beach in Florida an elected official a local city official could be charged
if their action if they um with election interference if their actions as a moderator on a social media platform are deemed to suppress certain viewpoints or manipulate online discussions in a way that benefits one candidate party or
political topic over others Wilber the dog over here made the following cute post on next door saying commissioner Robinson is not afraid to roll up her fur and get her paws dirty for the residents of St Pete Beach the nextd door moderators vote
voted that there were no issues with this post yet some moderator or team leader or someone on next door hid their identity and not only removed the post but Banned Me from the platform for three days for that another Resident here with a
well-known online presence of 27,000 followers has been always used her middle name with no issues but as soon as she made a post in Faceook of Lisa Robinson her account was suddenly removed from next door due to the use of her middle
name both commissioner Robinson and candidate Grant Izzy make periodic campaign posts on next door yet Commissioners Robinson's posts were deemed as spam and her account was suspended from next door while grants was not another aspect of election
interference is voter intimidation after I spoke out at the last meeting about commissioner RI acting as an door team leader which is essentially a moderator with additional responsibilities I got approached by several residents who told me they to
have been censored after either their public support for commissioner Robinson or speaking out against unchecked commissioner support for hotel developers but they are afraid to come here and speak out because they received threats after their public support for
Lisa Robinson on next door one woman got a message that said he knew where she was and where she lived another got a message that said you better hope I don't ever see you crossing a street my husband got a message that said to get with development or
die in light of these above issues the city really needs legal counsel to step in right now and not allow any City employee to partake in any social media platform where they are in a position of power to censor a local free speech I
realize there is nothing that can be done about biased friends of developers or political candidates acting as Nextdoor members however the city needs to be prudent and not put itself in the crosshairs of litigation I am hearing will be received if it continues to
allow its employees to remain in a position putting them in violation of title 42 section 1983 which prohibits local officials from suppressing Fe free speech of their constituents or any other laws on election interference thank you I just want to add that I have
no intent to say that commissioner R Nikki is involved in any of the above actions but it is in her job description and it's just not worth the risk for having residents say this thank you for your comments Dana
Richardson if you please state your name and address for the record um Dana Richardson 5830 Bahama Way South first of all I'd like to say thank you Amber for the years you've been here you will be missed and hard to be
replaced and thank you to Lisa for moving the motion I appreciate it as the beach ordinance I think definitely needs more time and maybe I don't even know if this is possible maybe in between first and second reading we could do a
community town hall meeting with resident in in put at that point so you kind of get that sounding alarm after the first reading and everybody scampers and we can have a discussion and then hopefully the second reading is more
based on what is a win-win for everyone the other thing I have that I just brought up as far as reading over the beach ordinance that's not being brought up today is about turtles and their
protection and we have ordinances on the books to enforce and they've been there but they have not been enforced and we are coming up on another turtle season and I'm just wondering uh if our code enforcement are being proactive with all the hotels and
the businesses that are shut down uh I do remember during the cup applications Joe the owner of trade win stated hey it's kind of difficult for us to get the turtle film on I think he was referring to the Breen Ridge bridge building which I is a time share um but we will get it
done well you know what it's empty have they put the turtle glass film on is this something that we can be proactive and try to nudge them along saying hey we need you to be compliant uh trade wi has not been compliant for 13 years
turtles need the protection they deserve it I hope we can do better in enforcing the ordinances thank you thank you Jay Anderson please state your name and address for the
record hi uh Jay Anderson 202 passig gr away um you heard somebody talk about the cell phone towers I would just like the commissioner or somebody within the city either through your newsletter or something explain a little bit more about these towers that we're hearing
about number one they might not be healthy for residents they certainly are ugly there's anywhere from 1 to 5 going in but the community has never understood what they're for how they're going to look finally when everything's hung on them and are they a health risk I mean
those are questions that I hear but we have heard nothing and it's just all of a sudden Started From the City without any warning so I just would ask please let us know what's going on thank you thank you sir I have no other cards
thank you next we move move on to consent items is there a motion to approve the consent items I make a motion to approve the consent agenda Second City Clerk if you please do a roll call commissioner Robinson yes
commissioner Miki yes vice mayor mahand yes commissioner Marriott yes mayor patrola yes motion carries thank you next we have resolutions number 7A adopt resolution 20255 City Clerk
yes a resolution of the city of St Pete Beach finding intent providing for a pause in the enforcement of certain provisions of the St Pete Beach code of ordinances and Land Development code relating to landscaping and ground cover requirements and related bonds for properties that are being demolished
repaired or restored due to Hurricane damage for the duration of the local state of emergency but requiring the enforcement of landscaping and ground cover requirements for completed repaired and restored properties providing for severability scrier errors
construction and an effective date and expiration date thank you good evening Laura Canary Community Development um I just want to note um on this this is not waving the requirement to do so this is simply requ
um waving the requirement to have the bond at this time so um and I'd be happy to answer any questions that anyone has questions comments commissioner Robinson yeah I just wanted to State too that this has been revised to the
resolution shall expire six months from the expiration of the local state of emergency correct correct that's in section six okay and just to clarify just so that everyone understands what this is right if you're demolishing a property you
have to put up a s Bond so temporary grass and so that's that's an additional expense that we're essentially saying you can we can do away with that for the time being yes correct so you know to reduce the
burden on people that are you know you know tearing down homes or rebuilding homes yes and it again it does not wave the requirement to actually sod the property when and if the property is demolished this is just waving that Bond requirement when you go to pull the
permit yep okay any other questions comments is there a motion I move to adopt resolution 202-572-5487 finding intent providing for a pause in the enforcement of certain provisions of
the St Pete Beach code of ordinances related to the prohibition on construction and construction noise on Sunday for interior work and exterior painting only until repealed providing for separability scrier errors construction and an effective date and expiration
date thank you and I have a scrier error there's two section eights so the section on an effective date and expiration date should be now be section nine okay questions comments commissioner
Robinson um did did we change anything on time of days or we thank you so um this this specific provision right now there's a in the code it allows the city manager to give waivers for construction activity based on some very specific
parameters and um the only uh parameter right now that I could not interpret to allow work on Sundays as in the event of an emergency and we're not in the state of a sa it's safe safety Health Emergency so I don't have that going on
at the moment um and so I'm proposing that we allow um interior construction work and exterior painting of existing structures and um what will not be allowed for is Paving construction of
new structures foundation work reconstruction or replacement of exterior fixtures or exterior remodeling or additions or anything that would impact the um the traffic um in particular on some of our
larger well any traffic you can't basically can't block the road we're proposing that Sunday would be allowed from 9:00 to 6: and they still need to ask for permission so we'll be putting out and it has to be in writing and then then we provide that information to the
Sheriff's Department because they are the ones that enforce for us on Sundays for um unallowed construction work and then also just for the record we are proposing a six-month expiration date after the end of The Declaration of
emergency that we've been um having come to you every week okay questions comments any audience comments yes sir Katie Cole you please state your name and address for the
record good evening Katie Cole law firm of Hill Ward Henderson 600 Cleveland Street sweet 800 Clearwater uh here tonight on behalf of the Don CeSar Hotel wanted to say thank you to the city manager for bringing this um forward to you all and for your consideration uh
the dawn is obviously working as hard as they can to get back open uh hopefully this month and so this uh construction schedule include some Sunday work and uh this Sheriff did flag it for them last month um we've been working with the
city manager and appreciate uh this consideration so they can timely get open in time for season and bring people to the beach so thank you thank you is there a motion I move to adopt resolution 2025
d05 Second City Clerk if you'll please do a roll call that's yeah sorry 20256 I apologize second vice mayor mahand yes commissioner Marriott yes commissioner Robinson yes commissioner Riki yes mayor
patrilla yes motion carries all right next we have ordinances 8B final reading of ordinance 20254 city clerk if you'll do us the honor one more time an ordinance of the city of St pet Beach Florida for the
purpose of adopting new code sections 22- 285 through 22- 289 providing for alternative code enforcement through a code enforcement citation procedure providing for codification conflicts severability correction of scers error
construction publication and an effective date thank you good evening Brandon Barry senior planner I just wanted to point out that this ordinance is unchanged from the first raing I know that there was one one particular concern brought up about what I also
perceived at the time to be a need to warn prior to issuing a citation particularly for those more transient or itinerant um violations I did speak with the city attorney after the meeting and I wanted to point out section 22287
C1 um there is an exception to the need to warn when a code enforcement officer has identified that the violation is of an intinan or transient nature that will take place on a particular piece of property for less than 5 days so that
would be those those transient um issues that we concerned about particularly over the spring break uh season dogs on the beach alcohol smoking on the beach loud noise other other items like that that um wouldn't be discontinued after a 5-day period so that would cover all of
those more behavioral and conduct issues that that are related to a particular uh violator ra rather than a property other than that um the ordinances as was read on the first reading thank you questions comments for Brandon do we have any audience
comments John your time feels that way time flies but Mr Dickman's not here so I don't know I I feel that way today um so in reading the beach ordinance for instance it had it mentioned that the um
the default was a was a misdemeanor um not an infraction you know and a typical traffic citation if you're speeding it's an infraction a misdemeanor you know carries a little more weight so um I noticed in the Civil
penalties here the first offense can be $100 second events $200 but if you decide you want to defend yourself okay if you you want to defend yourself um automatically it goes to
$250 plus court costs I would like to just suggest or request first off that just in general regardless of even it's a misdemeanor when when you really have another reason to want to defend you know defend it um that in general you know why should it go to 250 just
because you want to declare your rense and and and and have a chance of your day in court um we going to be adding the court costs so if you're going to add your court costs or other penalties isn't that enough that you shouldn't
also go from 100 to 250 I mean think about I mean and this isn't just one ticket let's say someone is on the beach and and wouldn't be me but let's say a couple you know rode their bikes on a cold day in January two bikes and they
had a little tent and they had alcohol in their Yeti which I've heard people have been doing sometimes and and it was sunset and they still were sitting in those chairs after Sunset and our new code says don't have those chairs out after Sunset not even if you're in them
and some overzealous officer somehow wrote them four tickets each you got $1,000 each you know just because they want to defend themselves I I I I think I mean obviously these are it's a ridiculous example but we were told back when some of these other laws were
passed oh the you know the sheriff's are always reasonable they're not going to pull you over if you're riding your bike on a cold day they're not going to pull you over and if they're not going to do this they always use their judgment well we just advertise zero tolerance and we and now I I was sitting in a meeting and someone was yelling no if you you you
know if you want to change the rules then change the rules we have a rule and everybody should follow the rules the way they're written so if we're going to have all these New Attitudes then we have to at least especially make sure people can defend themselves so I just want to put that out there thank you thank you sir
okay further comments questions I'm reading s the attorney would you care to expand on that kind of what the thought process was behind are we trying to cover magistrate fees or well the first offense is 100 second offense is 200 if
you appeal then we have to called our special magistrate and we have to pay her by the hour and you have have to have another our attorney sitting there by the hour um sometimes we may have a court reporter depending on the nature of the violation that would be a cost that we would add but we don't have to
have a court reporter and then there's a $50 fee for taking care of all the administrative filings because we're paying code enforcement and the clerk's office to manage and keep store all these citations so typically if you have a citation and
you challenge it if you even if you get a traffic ticket if you look at your traffic ticket closely it says you're this if you pay now it's this amount if you go to court it could be up to $500 but that's only if you lose correct so if you are if the magistrate looks at
it and says look this citation was issued an error then you pay nothing then you pay absolutely zero so it actually doesn't cost you anything if you're innocent to go defend your innocence yeah and this would be half the cost of the TR typical traffic ticket is 500 up to 500 if you contest
it so this would be half of that are we really worried about overzealous enforcement uh I wasn't going to say it I mean I most of the residents I've heard from in recent months and years uh it's under enforcement not over
enforcement so uh to be worried that we're going to over enforce um you know these type beats in Fr fractions uh you know I I don't I don't know I think maybe we're worried about a lot more than what we need to be worried about and I feel reasonably
confident that the city manager would recommend the necessary adjustments if uh for some reason we get a code enforcement or a sheriff that's out there over enforcing that would be i' be honest with you it' be H I'd be happy to
see it for a short period of time so um I I'm just not sure that that needs to be something that we take this back to the drawing board on and have some um workshops in the like over to get it
passed that's just my personal opinion do I hear a motion I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-the city clerk do we have to read 8C we not you are off the hook all right next we have items for
discussion commissioner Robinson regarding HVAC replacement uh we touched on that a little bit early on I just want to make sure we do followup on that and get that out to the community um and then also find out what other cities are doing so we can be very clear on that
absolutely we'll make sure we keep this item on our next update as well so can and I've noticed on the other ones too that they do drawings they do diagrams for Illustrated purposes on what they're talking about so that would be helpful too all right thank
you sure um and this is theer to me because I just made my platform for my HVAC to go up this doesn't apply for those that are already in process right like we already have a built we've already elevated it and then
now they tell us I mean I I did it BAS plus one just to because you know but you if we don't know if it's 32 Ines or 36 and nobody was able to tell us you know when we were at permitting what the Height's supposed to be because it's the way our building official is applying It
Is by property okay that's so whatever they told you they did the math and you may have to raise it higher than I would have to raise it or vice versa by flood zone right it's by flood zone and by the lar radar our data of
your actual property thank you okay next we have uh staff reports city clerk yep tomorrow the election for district 2 7:00 a.m. to 7: p.m. I'll be
here at 6:00 a.m. to help the pole workers it's here in Chambers um so I hope everybody comes out and votes and today is my last meeting so I'm still here for for a few more days but yest today is my last meeting thank
you thank you everybody thank you Amber city manager nothing to report City attorney I'm happy to announce that a judge uh From the Bench ruled in favor of the city on a motion for summary judgment in what's known as
The Secret Sidewalk case we don't have a final order in writing yet but as soon as we get one we'll distribute it to all the council to see thank you sir District 4 uh yes Mr Mayor just a couple of things I want to um publicly thank Amber
for all of her help uh in her time both before I was on the commission before I uh actually ran for the commission and while I was a resident um she was certainly one of the most helpful city employees
um particularly before I was on the commission so I want to thank her and wish her all the best uh I want to re restate uh something that was mentioned earlier in the meeting uh on the recovery um there are people going
through passor Grill and Vena Delmore uh doing reinspection uh they should have a badge um and if for some reason somebody is um concerned that person maybe is not
uh legitimate uh they can call uh the city staff at 727 367 2735 and once again they should have a official St Pete Beach badge whether they are an employee or a contractor
thank you Mr Mayor District three thank you I also want to say thank you to Amber um a lot like uh commissioner Mahal's experience even when I was a resident um way before even
becoming president for for the neighborhood I remember coming often and getting information and then finally getting that election book um which is large and it's a lot of work and we all up here know that process um and I appreciate all the work that you've done
um putting that together it's a lot to do what's going on behind everybody here um so I do appreciate everything that you do and everything that you did for me it was a a a learning Cur it's still a learning curve but you've helped a lot so thank you for that I also wanted to
announc on March 27th at 6: p.m. there will be a neighborhood civic association not official but for um uh Leo at Leo Park pavilion for Leo Beach boaa um and Marabella any of any of the neighboring
um homes that are within that area of the district um again that's March 27th at 6: pm at the Leo Park pavilion thank you thank you District Two I want to as well thank am you've been awesome um before I was up
here and all the times coming in and all my uh public info requests I greatly appreciate it and uh and getting all the info out to me and for your friendship too you've been awesome it's been pleasure to work with you and going to miss you and wish you all the best in what you do so and um other than that
I'll see you tomorrow and everybody get out and vote thank you district one sure um of course thank you Amber and and I I hope you know that that we all I'm sure wish you the best and also hope that you drop in and say hi every now and then if
you're ever up this way um I want to encourage everyone if you haven't applied for the Elevate Florida program definitely apply the application process is simple I've done it myself um I know that myself and several other folks who applied uh quickly um in the first day
or so have already had case managers assigned we've already had people you know had more information being requested they're moving pretty quickly through the process um and so I don't think it's a I don't think it's one of the programs that we've all heard horror stories about that it's going to take
three years before anything happens I think they're they're they're making it happen pretty quickly so if you haven't applied uh definitely apply and the case workers um so far from everything I've heard um and my experience is that they're exceptionally helpful um so that's a that I think that's going to be
a fantastic program for our neighborhoods um I know know in district one there's starting to be more and more people moving back into their houses which is really fantastic when I walk around at night there's more and more lights on in the neighborhood and people around um and so if you're back in the neighborhood look out for your neighbors
there's also been a few um uh a few uh reported instances of uh homeless people trying to move into some of the vacant houses so um if you see anything weird clearly call the sheriff the sheriff's been very responsive uh it it so far the
only the only incidents I've heard of have been caught very quickly and taken care of by the sheriff very quickly um but just remember to watch out for your neighbors and uh hopefully we'll all be back in our houses soon thank
you uh just a couple of items uh one um I will not be here in person for the next commission meeting I will be attending via Zoom um we have our concert in the park Series this weekend on Friday Bob Seager
tribute band so make sure you attend uh starts at 5:00 and I think the band comes on at 700 um we do have an election here for district 2 tomorrow 6:00 AM to sorry 7 Amber will be here at 6 you can come hang out a friend while
you wait till she opens the door 7:00 a.m. to 700 p.m. um and AMT thank you um I wish I had the right words to say just how much you've meant to me and to
this commission and to the residents like I cannot tell you how many residents have come and and just made the effort to come and tell me specifically to say how much they appreciate working with you uh how much they appreciate your diligence and your
care um we've seen you know vast improvements you know I was I was thinking earlier when we were talking about updating Financial systems and I know that there were such one of the reasons we're doing it now is because there was such terrible push back from getting any kind of forward momentum and
that was one of the first things when I came in I asked Amber what do you need and you're like look we need to update our you know our public record system we've got the software we just we paid for the software we haven't implemented it right um and then you know just I don't think you all realize what 70
years of paper records look like right I'm having nightmares just thinking about it but I mean those are just two small examples I mean they're really big items but they're just you know one of a hundred examples of of the things that
nobody sees it's it's the Unseen unrewarded you know no one singing the Praises of the person who scanned 70 years of documents um but that is a kind of selfless dedication and and the kind
of um just the kind of care that uh I mean I can't tell you how much that means to me I wish I had a words to express it um I know you will be missed here very much and there one lucky City to have you so I appreciate it thank you so much
for everything with that we are adjourned thank you for