beinga pulled Chris somewhere I don't [Music] know we'll wait for him MH morning Chris morning okay we'll call our December 23rd special meeting to
order as it is a special meeting we'll stick to only the items on the agenda are there any agenda additions I guess probably not I don't think you can we'll cross that off the list old business arpa
funds all right so uh we had talked about it here um a while ago our last meeting the uh County arpa funds um told you guys that you had to have obligations done here by the end of the year so part of the meeting today was to
talk about those obligations and where you guys really want those to go um there's an obl obligation and a re obligation piece of it too so in the event that you guys obligate dollars towards a specific project and that project gets funded elsewhere by grants
or whatever the case is um you can re obligate those funds later on but it has to be for a project that started prior to 2020 the end of 2024 2024 23 22 21 that kind of makes a little bit of
sense um basically you guys have 24 $ 14,593 and11 that you need to obligate to a project um the email that I sent out to you guys here had had some recommendations of what you could do with it it's completely up to you guys
what you want to use those funds for there's 214 left 214 left so the some of the ideas that I had thought or that we had thought of um talking to Jan and some others was 63 and change to cover the rest of the
Tyler Tech upgrades the new software that they have was that uh was that due all this year the 63 I don't know upgrades would have been for for 25 I mean is it do in 25 yeah so
our 24 Bill and then our contract and then the yearly the yearly fee and then we budgeted for that correct corre okay there's also 23,000 and change um that could go to cover the annual charges that we pay for Tyler um there's
and I think budgeted two yeah I know right and I think Janna is going to talk about it later but there's a possible expense for the old software of 16,000 that I think she's trying not to have to spend um but if she has to you could obligate some of those funds
out of this um the phone system upgrade all the SEC finalizing the security stuff and then going over to the shop with all the fiber and stuff that's right around 85 when that's all said and done 85,000 um the other thing do we have that we don't have any no that none of
that's in any budget right just that you guys approved the phone system upgrade so we were going to figure out where to take that from there's funding other sources but um there's nothing specific in it yet and then talking to Wayne and he's not here today but talking to
Beckman he said why the hell wouldn't we use all this money just for the outside apps so you could obligate partial of that all of it there's 25,000 that's sitting in that fund right now that you guys came up that you guys came up with um I think there's another chunk of change that's going in there next year not a lot but I think right around
50,000 or so um so when it's all said and done you're going to if you do the one quote you're going to have to come up with like 30,000 I think when it's all said and done you can obligate it to cover any road or Bridge projects um I would caution you on that just because there is funding available and that's
something that I didn't send to you guys but we still have 1505 funds that we need to use use of 636,000 in change there's fing a market that is 767,000 the prairie dog buckets are currently in the process of filling the first bucket is already filled the second bucket is
almost done with a projection of filling by the end of February which means we would have our full 1.6 million coming back to us in March um so we could lose money from there too for what Pro B dog has to be roads and bridges so
do so does the 1505 is 1505 so that that them to cut that down so I think and I funding thoughts for later I kind of want to wait until January to talk with Mike and you guys about that just to see what we're looking at I know you guys
talked about some seal coats on 18 and11 where that money is going to come from um the project up by Tim BPL the moving the road and and closing the bridge and all that stuff that got moved to 2026 instead of 2025 so there's and that's 100% % Grant but we still have to pay it
to then get reimburse that so I mean there's there's going to be expenses coming up in the near future I don't necessarily want to seal yeah I I don't necessarily want to tie ARP of funds to Road and Bridge projects we don't have to just because I know that there's funding either coming or we'll have
funding available at that time so if we if we put that arer money to this Courthouse fund that's that has to be spent next year has be spent by the end of 2026 26 yep oh so we two years what happens if we don't find someone to do
the repairs in time now and not have it not I think it be any any arpa funds that you obligate has to be spent uh on that project or re obligated to that project but everything has to be out of our books by the end of 26 so the
the thought process is here if we we decide to take that money and put it towards um the the building but I also you know would probably like to if this is what this is going to cost we should
probably put this up on maybe we go out a second bid we gotta have it's probably got to go up on bids advertise it see if we can get get a few other I think we need if we that's the
route we should go but we also probably need to figure out if we s have somebody generalist that knows what they're doing or just to make sure these bids are going to be the same bids yes and the same understanding of if it's going to cost this guy thinks he's going to do it this
way and this other guy's going to come in and say no we're do it this way well who's right who's wrong who's going to do the correct stuff because yeah I mean that's that's a that's a big of all Mone my concern is how many people do this type of work not many not very many are
we going to be able to get two three Bs and be there's got to be somebody out of far too I I would think so what I was telling Brandon earlier is is is I guess I would recommend that you guys uh if we go to the general rout let's go the general R but I think that you probably should write an RFP um you probably
should look at sealed bids um and then you should go down that route and then we spend a little bit of money and do a Statewide ad with it and then you get Statewide people and we'll put it out we could spend a little more money and put it out on Facebook and whatnot and get a Statewide thing there too um you know and then and then you can kind of see
where where you're at I think at that point you're probably looking at at least two if not three but I don't I don't know either would it be would it be worth looking at like like Richard said get a general in here and take a look at
the building itself and to see exactly what what it is I mean how how how degraded it is how long is it how long do we have um you know they would have some better
cost estimates of to say okay this is what this should look like we could hire an engineer to come look at I mean it's going to cost money but we could hire an engineer to come look at it and have them write to RFP and I mean right now you're just going off of who's you know what they
recommend yeah you could also obligate some of these funds whatever you guys think it should be but you could obligate some of these funds for that specific reason too you know I kind of would like to know where we sit with the building itself I mean I I can probably guarantee you what you know
not being touched in years so we had the you know when we did the last project we had the person at box Harper he was the [Music] General it went fine I know Trail was
Happ with her but she did [Music] already I think that was before his time maybe it was yeah she did um all the the bathroom compliance stuff for us up on
the third floor and first floor we may we could we should maybe just reach out to her and see what she would charge or give her give us an assment I I think we should do you want you want me to do that yeah or you g to do it or you want
me to do it you go ahead yeah because I think it would be be best for us to know what we're dealing with here first before we decide to kind of kind of go all and maybe it's not in her scope and we have to ask her
first and see if that's out of her scope and maybe she's got a recommendation to who what if we decide to allocate money to the building and then no work can get done till after 2026 or not completed before 2026 is done then you have to re obligate the funds elsewhere um so what
we've been doing elsewhere is um recommending like different project lists so internal project list so something like this sheet of paper um that really shows the um a couple of different projects that you can utilize it for um just because you have to you have to be a little forward thinking
here in if it's 85,000 for the phones why don't always say 85,000 for that security stuff and the rest towards Theos project exactly you can do that and covered anyways a little bit and then what TR County did was the if there are any re obligation needs we re
obligated to a road project do you do that later or Road Project you can do that you can do that in November of 2026 say we're going to reigate this to this specific Road Project you know and then it's while you got to spend it by the end of 26 but you could reallocate it later to a road project because that's then you kind of covered you know
there's silco projects there's red projects there's changing CTS out I mean you have those ideas yeah there's there's those thoughts that I think you could spend that money but I I guess selfishly I would like to see the security upgrades and the phone and everything else that around 85,000
and then the rest do whatever you guys want to do with it but that's that's a my own selfishness no I'd like to see that taken care of as well why do we do that then let's obligate the 85,000 the rest towards
the arones starts a c project the courthouse what do we put that in buildings maybe Courthouse impr some Courthouse improvements yeah I I'm sure the engineering costs and
everything else so eat some of that absolutely and that can be paid out of the court all Improvement at that time if we have an engineer to come and look at it now pleas okay so is there a motion to allocate our arpa funds to pay for the
security upgrades and fulling system and to put the rest of it into the courthouse Improvement fund I'll make a motion we have a motion is there a second second any more
discussion all in favor say I I I I opposed motion carried so I have two M us um that I'll need sign from you Perry one of them is going to be the um 129 52911 will go
into the um Courthouse improvements and then 85 will go towards the other stuff okay so um before you leave today let's make sure you sign this sure historical Grant so I got a grant
from the Historical Society um I wrote it for um the lighting and for the outside of the courthouse they gave us 25,000 on a um uh 5050 cost share uh so if we spend 50,000 they'll give us
25,000 that's how that works um they wanted to do it on the lighting inside the courthouse so all of these drop down lights that are like in the not these ones but the ones out on the hallway that are the stairs and stuff um
that's what they want to focus on rehabing those up so I don't know they're going to change them or what are they no they got to keep them I don't know yet yeah I there I talked to Tyler and he had some ideas
of what he could do with it um he thinks it's going to be pretty hard to to do some different things which is where the expense comes in um so I don't have the contract or anything yet on that they told me they wouldn't have that ready until February March okay so we can't start on anything until then but we did
get awarded that amount of money so that's the idea of what we're going to use that for um I do you guys want me to go I got to go bids never mind I got to do procurement stuff so I'll I'll handle it if you guys are cool with it
y a timeline on that uh a year and a half but if we do everything inside and if I talk nice to Tyler maybe he can even do that in the winter because I know some of those guys don't like to work PK you Works plenty in Winter I'm just kidding I'm kidding obviously I'm
kidding I'm saying that because I hope he listens to this at the end of it what the hell okay beer lier license only got one back it was for um Lake View catering
so the ones and I'm sure the other one the golf course isn't open so I haven't Jake said he gonna drop it off last week yeah and they paid and everything basically the same information as last year I'll make a motion to approve that
we have a motion to approve the application for liquor license is there a second I'll second that any more discussion all in favor say I I I opposed motion carried GDP Bill okay so we're switching over to
January 1 um in order to keep our current or in order to have GDP help us like a help desk he wanting like $16,000 for the
year um I talked to some other counties that are doing the trans the change over they already like Trail County changed I believe in July they've been working on that and they're actually going to be paying him to do the help desk they are
much larger they have a lot more and their conversion did not go very well um so far ours has been very good um all the statements have all been sent out um any and then on top of it when I do ask him a question he's usually like well
you'll have to ask Tyler I'll have to ask Tyler I don't do that anymore so I leaning towards not needan to pay it I feel pretty confident and all of our books are going to be there and we're not clearing anything we're just going to leave 2024 we're even close it out
but we're not clearing it so we'll go we can always go back and look we have tons of documents from past years I mean so I don't think it's necessary um I don't know what you guys feel $16,000 is
a lot a lot of money The Firm was that for a year it's for nine months because he's in December of 2025 and so I don't know he's he's not much help anymore I think casy kind of talk he's kind of checked out not
caring and I just think that's a lot of money for getting told you'll have to ask somebody else I can't figure it out yeah I think if you feel confident that that we can function without that let's foro it for all and then uh yeah cuz like you said too I agree
with that feels a little we have later does that work price goes up I'm sure and the thing is why it's so expensive is because as people are Dr as counting are
dropping off his price isn't changing he's just dividing it Les with less counties okay so Tandy yeah and I I don't think that we're going to have to use the this old GDP went to we switched over I
mean because yeah I mean you should be we're all we've been in tax white since October and we haven't even touch GDP taxwise I mean we're in the GL just because we want to start out fresh January one all of our books will be fresh and they have pulled all the data
conversions that they need everything is transferring well um we've been running practicing payroll already and doing all that stuff and I just don't think it's necessary I just the last couple times I've asked for
help not he does give me an answer so and there's a lot of other counties too on the tier so if I do run into a problem or something they be like well this is what you're looking for y I don't know so I guess you guys roll the dice
make motion to not pay that there's a motion to not pay the G PP bill for continued service is there a second no second any more discussion all in favor say I opposed motion
carried Regional livestock planning Grant meeting supposed to be on I think I had you and I had discussed that or i s you email and said let's just set up a separate meeting in July yeah was the plan January or January not
July about the guy was here before you want that yes the study is done so he's ready to come back okay so that's where that is for now then going through bills this one on top is from for Golden
Lake I don't know what you guys want to do with that so that's the bid assign bid from the sh this is a bid yeah so I think we just pull that out for now okay I agree
um if I can get that architect to come to your January meeting to kind of explain to you that the services and stuff are you guys cool comfortable with that yeah you want to I just I feel better if they told you directly instead of going through me
but that work on a bar napkin that cop and I think I also talked to Jake too about ordering material and stuff said was going to have it here by get any it I pay for it this year yeah
so we could pay for it this year get it out of the books since there's money left but I'd call him again a couple times okay he's gonna order all the material through syney Lumber do we getes for the one Rising gold l in
and Jake wasn't your last is that mine yeah the outside of the courthouse we it's a grant the elect Watchman it was y yeah it's a grant thing 100% Grant calling you again hello
okay sound that was F he said the lump the lumber invoice about 177,000 I don't know if you guys want to wait or if you want to approve it took made off the books this year he said he's just coming
to Finley now I don't know how long but there is money in the budget to take over it this year we should that's for 10
y think we option we I won so you want to like Pro up to 18,000 well yeah see what I mean like do we do that 10% over was he going to send the bill to
you he was gonna send me a picture he said he was driving right now I don't know what supposed to 20 up to 20 okay okay is there a motion to approve
the uh golden leg material for up to $20,000 make there a motion is there a second second any more discussion all in favor to say I oppos motion car
what's that penalty is the the penalty on the i' have to health insurance late maybe or something must have been paid late they send what our in rates for25
going to be were they going up much yes this sheet Blue Cross un ours 20% our that's outrageous yeah
19.5% use blue glass let's is all reg just they can just come out and here's what it is right take it or leave it and you have to have it yeah I mean how do they justify it you think it have to be
some is roughly without that much I did ask her to have them s a reason why and I did get the read it's so we have a few older people on her plan is what she said so I don't really I don't
know how sure that was that why they have group plans get some medium m 602 before and I went up to 793 from the side sorry just we call F for bab to come out and we
could save about 8 to [Music] 10,000 more than that many think about 60,000 for the year so we were going to roughly go up 70,000 and I think we could save that 60,000 we switch
we probably didn't even budget enough for that just barely would 33,000 a month you heal than you goodbye oh yeah and then you still get
a there's gota be something done about health insurance gr more profit business somebody get rich yeah can't go with no they require you to have it you don't then you take out of your taxes something like I know they find
you I don't know what happen or they'll just drop you or if you got insurance can go to your taxes if you have tax I guess I'm sure they'll D until they get there's a big fine from IRS for that's
what it is that's what I thought it's a big fine I don't know and if you can't afford the health insurance how hell you pay for the plan so yeah if you can't afford the health insurance that's why they came up with the but they that's why they came up with the Obamacare too so if you can't afford it you
can supposedly get I don't know I've never been on it but supposedly you can get health insurance for decently cheaper the marketplace you can find it pry reason depend on your income although my tax guy the last couple years has been like I don't need that
paper what you mean I've been waiting until March to file can you tell me you don't need dat Pap guess [Music] [Music] okay any questions on the bills just so you guys are we're not you WR
then these bills aren't going to 2025 correct so so you're aware that we're not being these so think it's like 150 bucks yeah no questions is there a motion to approve the bills the Year have a motion is
there a second no second any more discussion all in favor say I opposed car hey is there motion to adjourn make a motion toj the meeting there a
second I'll second that all in favor say I opposed meeting is thanks guys trying to sell us