Wait, I just talked to Rod this morning because he looked at it and I said, "Well, we're going to He said, "I'll get you some numbers yet, but I might not, you know, need a lower >> on the Y that's in here.
>> We can sit here." Yeah. So they really don't care. So I think they're not going to turn it over to see that I suppose. So that >> No, not theirs. >> Did you tell them we're going to send
them a bill for moaning every time then? >> He says it looks like a park where we don't really care about that as far as a game of fish. It's called volunteerism, right? $30,000 more for volunteering. Well, at
least when do they think that other stuff's going to get done? Did they give you a timeline deal? >> Um, no. They're working on surveying. >> Who's doing big doing that? Jason.
>> Wonder how far off all them lines are. Wow. That's all they're doing is the the big pars all broke out later. So it'll be >> So what are they keeping fish? >> The point
where the pavilion's at. >> Yeah. >> And then behind like catast they're keeping like where the storm shelters at and the pavilion area and then that stuff behind here. >> That's it. What about like over by
Rainers that area? You know, there's a row of trees behind. >> We keep that too. >> We'll keep that too. >> They're letting them have that area over there where back when usually parks. >> They have to
develop develop that will that's not going to be a very good spot. prayed some more yesterday. End of the week would be very good, but it's too cold and stuff before just much.
But I mean we can use round but we're not frost all the leaves up place it see >> river bottom was worse. Oh yeah, the river bottom is worse.
>> River bottom. >> Yeah, sure. I don't have any river bottom. I'm sure that way a little bit. [Music] said he noticed some corn yesterday around 208 that the outside roads were
turning white. >> Yeah. He's not in the way. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Seems like when you're in a hurry, your kids make it more difficult for you to be in a hurry. Wik last night.
No, that was good, but not as good as Buffalo. I don't Buffalo. I don't think she I hate to rate. >> Yeah. Yeah. No one. >> Oh, hey.
>> What did they say? You seen the card? >> Oh, I'm saying that. >> Oh, you had it from them or the wife, didn't you? >> I I get it from them until I can get it to actually run signal for ice. [Music]
What's that problem feeling back? Is this >> Yeah. >> I think I had a baby. You know, just had a baby the other morning. >> Another >> a baby. Okay. They just had a baby. >> So, they have two babies now. >> Mhm. >> Okay. They have I think she has four
boys and then one girl left and two babies. I think >> she has all kinds of fun animals out there. >> I think there's more than that even is very up there was eight or nine of them things before they were babies. But maybe I know the one they had to get rid of put the one down. Yeah.
>> One got sick and then the one mama is nice. >> And she has pigs and cows. Chickens. >> Chickens. Pigs. Goats. Goats. >> She got that nasty goat. >> Yeah.
Well, there's a pile of kittens running around when I was there that day. dog. >> Big dog. >> We don't count them. They're normal. We don't have morning. wonderful
radio. >> I thought it was a multi-use facility. >> You can play basketball, too, if you want. >> That blue that they put on the see the blue on the heavy senior court
sticks out. I think he could see it from space. >> Yeah, the game's mission. >> I haven't been up there for a couple weeks. >> I'll drive up >> privately. It's done done now. >> Yeah, people to drive up there. Check it out.
>> That blew it, [Music] but it does the air does blow through. It's kind of weird. So it's being linked with some of that stuff mold in it. >> No, it's not outside. So they they recommend taking it off. So
>> So take it off for the winter. >> Take it off, put it in some pillars, protect it, and then back up in the spring. >> Are you making need to go to camp? >> Oh, and then the county one. Okay.
>> So, your county staff >> I'm sitting here or else >> I sure >> Okay. And you're in the right place. Just want to make sure you're in the right place. See, this is all it would just be.
You know, it says the blue one, but by that's all the property, but they're in the lots. That's what's going to be sold. >> These are all These are all the lots. >> Yeah.
There's buildings along here now too. No, that's that's those are privately owned. Get rid of that stuff. >> Just the red ones. >> Yep. >> So, you think there's been a newer one? There must be a newer at least.
>> That's >> how do I know which ones are private, which ones aren't? So let's be able to compare hears [Music] >> one of the bridges the state won't stay out will affect soft. >> Yeah. >> What? Obviously put a culvert in there.
>> Replace with the culver. Take out the bridge. >> They totally take it out or >> said they deteriorated too bad. They said it's in too bad shape. >> It's this size. That's one.
between David and >> yeah, >> let's see if we can fix >> Did you say anything that I read as >> they don't take care of that? >> They don't take care of that one.
>> It is a activity. >> People are playing on it. >> All right, we'll call the budget hearing to order. >> Any questions on the budget? >> Got some budget questions, back there. >> Oh,
no. You should. >> No, mostly on the property. Very considered thing. >> Mostly on the property, I guess. reasons why or what else have the
ancestor has brought? >> So, >> increase decrease whatever Casey Casey >> Casey we met before. Thank
>> yes Casey here as far as any questions go. >> Yep. So yeah, um most of the prophecy here in section 17 and 18 and number nine um
reasons why or uh I guess as far as uh having dealt with this type of situation really in the past but uh >> yeah I could focus a question whether of the reasons why the increase or is there
a decrease? >> Okay, that'd be something that we'd have to sit down in my office and look up every single parcel and see kind of >> which way they went. And then >> um is this all just >> um farmland?
>> Yes. >> Okay. So, NDSU and NRCA, they actually set all the farmland values. So, I don't actually set that, >> right? >> So, we could talk about that figured out. Sure. >> But if you have more questions, we can sit down for sure.
>> I guess that would be the person I would have to visit with right here. >> Yeah. >> So, >> we can do that whenever works for you. >> It'll work right now. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Let's do it. >> Thank you. >> Y
Thank you. >> I'm over here. I'm just representing the Finland Finley uh city of Finland Park District. Seeing if anybody has any issues with >> if there's any questions. >> No wonder
supposed to be an hour, is it? >> No. >> Yeah. So, >> well, I screwed that up for you guys today. Sorry. >> You're paying overtime. Well, they'll have to you can start your meeting and you can
pause the meeting. I think I would say if they were down here >> keep it open. If someone comes, >> we'll just we'll just recess it. recess it then. >> Okay. >> And for a motion to have a recess from
the budget hearing. >> Make that motion. >> Motion made Chris. >> I'll second. >> Second by Perry. All in favor? >> Yes. >> I moved. All right. I'll call the September 9th,
2025 Penny Commission meeting to order. Everyone got a chance to look over the last minutes? I'll move to approve both sets of minutes. A motion may carry approve both
sets of minutes. >> I'll start. >> Second by strand. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carried. Any additions to the agenda?
>> There is one um the tasers and the break will be instead of that. I did send everybody a email. >> Other additions will go to the park board meeting. >> I'll call 9 still county park board
meeting to order. Anybody have any agenda additions? I got a few but I'll put them under new business. Is there motion to approve the agenda? >> Make that motion. Is there a second?
>> Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. Same sign. Motion carried. >> Approval of the minutes. Everybody read the last minutes from last month.
>> So is there a motion to approval? >> I'll make a motion. Second. I'll second. Any more discussion? Not all in favor say I. I post same sign. Motion carried. Old
business. I got some quotes from Moors. Uh one like we have the cost to us would be 285, but that's before Ron was out and looked yesterday, but he hasn't given any
numbers on trades. So that would be our cost right now about a trade and step lower would be that they call it zero churn. It doesn't have a screen like Melissa wants. That one is 225. I kind of informed Rod too that we don't
know if we're going to be needing new along with this stuff going on with the beds out here in that land. Like Richard and I talked a little bit, I don't know why we should have to mow the game and fish land that they don't that we're not getting any revenue or
nothing from. Well, what did he tell you, Richard? That they don't care if it gets mold or not. >> Basically, that'll look real nice. So, we'll have to cross that bridge when
we get there, I suppose. So, how many hours we have on machine now? I think Bless has got over $700 on it. Yeah, I'd say be close. >> 750. I think she was talking. >> Those big commercials were we're good for another year, right? Hopefully we have a better better view of what's going to happen there,
>> right? I agree. Should last another year. Just go get a few things fixed on it if it needs it and run another year. >> Jake's not here. His dad had a got flipped off a horse and he's kind of beat up. So Jake was sitting with him. But um he said there's two walk doors
that need to get fixed. One that goes into the kitchen and that one you could see daylight the snow blows in that one that's been for like 2 years. That needs to get fixed. And there's one on an outdoor bathroom that needs to get replaced. He said
I don't we should just tell him to get it done. And >> the which bathroom? >> It's one of the outdoor ones. He said >> like the game of fish ones. No, not the game of fish, but that are right by the Yeah. Yeah. >> said they've been broken for a while. He
just hasn't had time to fix them, right? So, >> so I know tell him to put some new doors in there. I mean, not I know I wanted the kitchen. You go out there in the winter time be snow blowed underneath it because it's just shot. So, yeah. Just put them in.
>> Yeah. Motion. You need a motion for that. Have them get done. the budget. You probably don't know. >> Okay. Well, I'll tell him I'll tell him to find somebody to get some doors put in there. Other thing he said, the lattice and stuff under that deck,
that's getting old and crappy, too. I know. >> Oh, do a bunch of work to that deck anyway. >> Right. That's the other thing he said, too. It needs work done to that thing. So with our stuff going on here, I don't know how much we're going to want to spend out there on that part, but
>> probably going to have to take presentable and stuff too. It can't be dilapidated, but >> it just need to be nailed back up again or >> I think the wind blew it in, cut, snapped it in place. So I think just find something different to put
underneath it probably. I know there's deck boards that need replacing and stuff and he had done some but there's more that needs to be done on it. He's also wondering about the sewer. We going to try that
put them tank heaters in there. >> Oh yeah, that's just they just float in there for them. That's Yeah. >> Yeah. Curtis come put in what Curtis also mentioned to him about putting a heat tape. You know where you say the pump's up and over like that. think there'd be worth putting heat tape in
there. >> They could. I mean, the only other, you know, we'd have the same issue way out on the on the out end out by the parking lot as well. So, >> yeah, that'd be a little That's a little tough to get to that one, I suppose. >> Yeah.
>> If we get snow, it's all be fine. >> Yeah, right. >> Or if we I guess we don't get snow, let's find some bales and put out covers. >> We found exactly where they need to go. >> Yeah. I mean, all by the road I don't look for that. That's That's a guessing game.
>> Right. Right. Okay. Jake said his hours now. He's uh Fridays at 4 till closing and then Saturdays are noon till closing. He's just always helps gone back to
school. >> Yeah. >> So, I guess that's all I have. You guys have anything? I'll just I'll get them the final numbers what Rod gets for us, but like I said, it's probably going to be on hold for a while here.
We figure out what they're going to actually do out there. Pickle ball court, activities pad, whatever you want to call it, is up and running. People have been playing on it. Looks really nice. >> Is it done done now? The court is they're looking for some money now because they want they got they want to
make their sign. They're making a big enough sign for and they got a few little estimates in on that. It was they figure it's going to be $30,000 for that freaking sign. >> So they're trying to collect little money to get that but everything else is
pretty much taken care of. It sounds like [Music] >> all I got. There's nothing else. Is there a motion to adjurnn? >> I'll make a motion or a second. Second. >> All in favor say I.
>> Motion carried. Thanks, guys. >> Thank you. What's to go next? Eric, do you want to talk about why don't you go and >> Sure. >> Morning, >> Marty. Morning. >> Morning.
>> All right. So, one of the items that we have listed in our budget for 26 is updating our uh tasers uh as well as our body warn cameras.
Um, I've been working with Axon and have a quote from them for two cameras and two tasers and that's for $23,546.40. Um, we also have a grant
to the DOJ for uh 6 grand. So that' bring that down to 17,54640. Um, our current equipment is 5 to 7 years
old and everything is past warranty, past to where they're not Axon and Watch Guard aren't covering anything if they get damaged or replacements or anything like that. So they break, they're we're kind of out of
luck. Um I know Brad's right now his camera is acting up, not working. So that's kind of an issue. So >> do you have any money in your budget now? >> Uh so yeah, I think we have enough to cover like uh
where we could pay the six because the the grant is a six and six match. So, we can pay that this year and then uh that would bring get that total down for this year and then go into next year with the 17.
So, we >> you'd be down to like 12, wouldn't you? >> Um, six and six. >> We would pay six and then >> they would do the six. >> Yeah, >> you'd be down to 12 or so. >> Well, it'd be six grand. It'd be the 23,000
is the number and then you take the six grand from that. So it' be 17 if you've >> But then you had six grand in your >> Right. Yes. Okay. I know what you're saying. Yeah. >> So 12. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You need that this year or next year?
>> Well, this would be for next year for the budget, but we could what we have right now in the in the budget. We could technically start now. So, get it now. And then, um, that's the other part. They have payment like this is up to you
guys. They they do a a five-year payment plan or you can pay it all up at once. So, >> they charge interest and everything. >> Nope. It's all laid out in the quote there. It's $4,792 per year. No tax, nothing like that.
So either either we pay it all at once or you spread it out over the five. >> Yeah. >> And they're not going to charge anymore for paying yearly. >> So it breaks out to the same number in
the end. It looks like. >> Do you have to pay the six right away to get that six match grant? Do you know or can you do it over time and they also >> uh I think it's all at once. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because that grant
expires this year. So >> that will work. >> There is quite a bit. >> Just take just take the money out of the way six grand or whatever to get your matching and finance the rest.
Doesn't cost us any money. >> Yeah. Yeah. And body cams are just critically any case where right now malfunctioning. I would say defense attorney. They're all holding pretty well. >> I see they're warranted for five years
as well. >> Yep. They're so they're warrantied five years and then they also send uh after like a year and a half they send out new cameras. >> Oh. >> So they update them after a year and a half. That >> also included so many times you have to like reertify your tweezers as well.
Yep. So, it's got all that and then it's got um >> pretty much it's a service contract. >> Yeah. It covers the the storage for the for the footage, uh warranties, uh cartridges, everything. >> Will it be 25 grand or 24 grand every 5 years?
>> So, then we would we would have to contract >> ongoing. >> So, after the five years, we would have to do a new contract. I think in that case, yeah, I would just for sure just get pay the six grand down to your six grand matching, then just pay the yearly. >> Okay.
>> If it's interest rates, then it's going to be an ongoing deal. It's just then we'll just figure >> whatever somebody into the budget. >> At the end of having your right now, we have about 5,000 left equipment. So, at the end of the year, we can look and see. >> Yes.
>> Get some off. >> Mhm. Okay. That way you get that Brad and everybody's cameras working. >> Yeah, >> do it right away. >> Sounds good. >> Motion. >> Make a motion.
>> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Strand to uh purchase a contract for new tasers and body cameras. >> I'll second by Chris. All in favor? I I opposed. Motion carried.
Anything else? >> All right. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. >> Great. You want to go next? >> Yeah. Thank you, guys. want to read.
Um, Are we Did you want to talk to me? >> This is a premium insurance package on both on both motors. for seven years. the price that they were going to give us for the John Gear are both very
similar. Got this. We got this motivator budgeted. Correct. What's in that house? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Came in a lot cheaper than the last one.
I'm pretty sure it did. Yes. with well, one reason why it's a little bit more cheaper is because uh the we're getting more money for for this motivator than we did for the last Well, actually last time >> wasn't the last one like 475.
>> Yeah, that was straight out, >> right? >> They they have come down a little bit in price. >> That's surprising. >> About 6,000,000. Y >> if if we order it if whenever we you
guys want to commit to it. Uh he said he could have it Butler could have it here uh first of the year. >> So >> that's a lot quicker than the last one. >> Yeah, too. >> They're getting their turn around a lot
faster now. So, no, that's just something for you guys to I don't know if you didn't want to. >> Well, we can already making it. We want to get it ordered. >> Yeah. Motion to have it delivered after the first year.
>> Okay. The cat. Thank you. So, I'll make a motion that we uh order the cab get it here from the vote from Butler. Accept that. Motion from Cruder. Second. Second from
Strand. All in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carried. New cap on. I'll talk a little bit about the the covers that we've been putting in with the track. This is the last week with
it. You have to go back next week on Tuesday. It goes back. Um, we did the one on ADA, the Randy Figerberg one. Uh, >> let's call it the 8A. >> Okay.
>> Um, the water that has a 10-in drop in it. Uh right now the water is just about quit running into Calbert now back in his trench back beyond our right away. Um
the next one we we went to uh we did lower seven county road 7. There was a rusted out 18 in in there in the road and uh we put a new cover in there.
Uh then we did some ditching, cleaned the ditch out over on County Road 10, just a mile in by uh before you get to Brad's mailbox, that slope there, so that the water don't run over the
road. It's just level with the road. Uh and then we went from there to County Road 4. County Road 4, we put in a culvert in the corner uh where the where the water comes down the waterway. It
always would taken it's all been filled in with silt over the years. So then it rounds the corner and runs down along the edge of the road and runs over the road and stuff. So now we got a culvert that comes right down where it used to be
years ago. We didn't even quite go that deep is what the old one was and put it in so that water will funnel straight down to the creek. So, we shouldn't have water running over the road on County Road 4 in it. Then we went to County
Road 16. Uh we put it took out one of the old Savannah culverts on that first mile, the farthest onto the salt where the water runs over the road all the time on us. that was shot. And then I talked to David Nygard,
Donnie and David, and uh it used to just it used to flow on top of the ground there when it was first put in, I'm sure. But over the years, it was built up higher than than the culbert going out. So now we dug it. We they wanted
the the channel rounded and then straight to the south. Then that way it should keep the silk with same direction that the water's going. It should carry the silt and stuff. So we got that project done yesterday.
And then now we're on County Road 7. Uh where the water runs over the road up there all the time, especially when we get like even a 2 and 1/2 in drain. it that 36 in it it keeps augering it out of the ground. So, we're putting a 48 in
there and stuff and we can get the slope decent and stuff. So, it plus that it's so short, you know, they're all covers have gotten short over the years. So, and then to the south of that in the
intersection there is another rusted out shot culvert that both ends are smashed down and uh the farmer there he he's been complaining about it for years and I said we're going to put that in also
this week and stuff. So, I've turned down lots of work that people have asked me and I said, "We just we got I got too much on lined up that we we have to just we got to get done what we need to get done." Y So, >> are you going to be able to get it all done? >> Oh, yeah.
>> Okay. So, but thank you guys for letting letting us get that truck going so to rent. So, um
anything else for me? We're we will be I will be starting hassling guys about getting their falling done. now October 1st. I mean, they're supposed to I
called them started calling them, but I don't want them to cut it quite yet because we still got some growing season yet, you know, but hopefully that gets we get set up for winter time. >> Mhm. >> So, >> county road six culverts
are they >> okay? Uh right now they yesterday when I was down there they were uh halfways on them and I'd say they probably are probably level with the top of the
cowboards now. Uh they have them they have the channel cleaned out. There was three beaver dams between there and not very far down uh with the water table so high in that area right there. But they
did a nice rock bed. They took and put fabric down, sand down, and then uh they got the covers about 7 ft apart. So they're 6 in
higher or something like that than the water table, you know. So, but the water table is like 18 in deep and I'm going to be in a maintain probably all the time. So,
>> there'll be water running through there. >> What's that? >> Once they open it up, there'll be water running through or sitting in there. >> It's just sitting there. I mean, they they're going to clean a little bit going uh to the west too right now. I
mean, it's all cattails. They're going to try to clean a little bit, but there's fiber out there, too. So, we're not going to go that far. Uh, but the other direction they they're going to take and
put a nice outlet so that the water will will leave there decent. So, and they're going to rock both ends and put fabric on on them and stuff. So, >> completion estimate. When might it be done if you had to say it?
>> I would say by by beginning of next week sometime. Okay. You know, and then after they get that done, then we going to want to make sure that we're we got like maybe 2 and 1/2 ft of fill on the top of
the cover, right? >> You wanted these two. >> Yeah. So, and then the water's supposed to run over to the south if it does. So, but then then ARB will finish graveling that too cuz we skipped that
quarter mile right there. There's 10 loads and then they he's got six figured for the project also. So, it then uh the covered up on County Road 20. How far away is that?
>> Next week or two. got that people calling me up there, especially the one that lived right next to it. So I said it'll it'll be done before so thank you
the bids on the Suburban real quick. Five of them, he >> Yes. Want to hear all of them or just want to hear the top one? There's five beds in the Suburban. Don't read all that.
[Music] >> The names you do. >> Yes. >> All right. >> Okay. Okay, we got Brent Foss 3000, Brad Lstrom
5850, Josh at 5642, Nancy Olson 3650, Kyle Zurf said 7650. That's a seven, right? Am I reading that correctly? That's all. You got to make a motion. I suppose make
>> second. All in favor? I motion carried. All right, Mike and your turn. >> Morning, everybody. I think everybody got copies of the map that was handing out. May short. We won't short. I got
extras. >> We can show it all in like >> Yeah, there's a couple maps associated with that. Um, one was intended to be used to talk about the flexible. >> Get an extra one there.
>> I got one staple together and one free one. >> Yeah, I think ones for different purposes. >> Yeah, no problem. I have extras here. I'll just get you another set um as we talk. So, the uh um first point for discussion would be the uh flex fund
applications for the minor structure bridges. That's what the packets of all of the cost estimates are for. So we had five different applications that we were looking at with that. The way that we decided last time was to separate these
out between bridges and covers. So that's what we did. Um so just to recap, um we were looking at these as 2027 projects or 2026 projects. it does need to be specified in uh the
application. So interested in what you guys would prefer to do with that since there's five of them. Do you want to split them up and possibly know I I don't know how they're going to decide these but does it not make a difference to you guys
>> split them up by priority or something or split them up how year you want to do. So each each package will be a separate application. Just another whole set of stuff right here. So maybe start with uh um you guys are
still looking at a 10% promise local contribution for these um total with no ask from the county or from the townships on any of these just to to make sure that we're still on the same page of that. I believe that's what we decided. >> No.
>> So, most of these are $400 to $500,000 um per packet. The chances that they're going to approve more than one are pretty unlikely. So, you're probably looking at maybe one for approval and maybe one later on for prairie dog approval at the very best case scenario if you get anything out of these. So,
what you'd be looking at is 40 to 50,000 um contribution if one of these actually gets selected and approved. We can just do it all. Do them all for an extra then for >> for 26. For 26. Yep. We can just enter
them all for 26. The the uh >> what was your email about renewables? They're >> That's the next item. That's the next item. That's that's the bridge thing. That's entirely separate deal. So, so if uh the the only question I had on one of these is that we did have that
discussion that Ben had understood that uh it's possible even though they're kind of telling you that the uh requirement is a $250,000 minimum project. Um there is the uh the northwest quarter of the county, those particular bridges, there were only two
in there and the cost estimate for that is under 200,000. So, my one thought with that is that I need to go and and take a look because there's a discrepancy in here. And um but my thought process is is that was why I gave you this map. My thought is is that
what we're focusing on is the red bridges which are rated in the worst condition for the minor structure. I thought that since that particular one was a little light on cost, if you want to be over the 250,000, that may be the criteria for that. Um, we could go back in and add that yellow
bridge in there, that 1094, and take one of the moderate condition bridges, and just add it to the application so that they're all similar amounts with that. >> Yeah, I see. That's a good idea. >> Yep. >> So, if that makes sense, just you hate to have it thrown out to not consider
just because you're under that threshold, >> right? >> Because you've got tons of bridges that you could do. So, so that was the scoop on that. So, if you guys are good with that, we'll do 10% 2026. >> That 1094 would we That could possibly
be a culvert though, isn't it? >> These are all culverts. So, anything that's a bridge on here, there's nothing that's recommended to go back as a bridge. They're all single line, double line, maybe double line of barge pipe, but they're all metal culverts is what we used for the estimate. Um, which has been your standard for these bridge
replacements to put metal culverts in and then basically turn them back to the township. So that's what the estimates are based on. So just wanted one more last opportunity there. Make sure that we're all on the same page. You know what we're doing. Sounds like it. So we'll just get them
submitted later this week. So the second piece that Richard alluded to was this map. That's the two together maps, the red stuff on it. So that information that I sent you in
advance with advance with that email to think about for today um what was submitted after we got a chance um to meet with Ben and Reed and Brandon just to kind of go over this because the DOT had a short timeline on sending this
back. One component of the flex funding has been federally inspected bridges. They did that process different. You're not applying for that um as grant funds. They simply said, "Here is your list of all of your federally inspected bridges. We'll give you one column to rank these
in priority on what you'd like to place one through five, and we'll give you one column to rank them in priority on what you would be willing to remove one through five." So then what they did is after they got everybody's ranking priorities, um, you
know, they threw them in the hat and drew out the ones that might be they might be willing to fund. So they came back with that second email and said, "Okay, these are the ones that we'd be willing to possibly fund. Now give us more information and give us a cost estimate is what they're asking."
Unfortunately, they ignored the replacement column and they focused on the removal column. So in that removal column, there's four of them that uh they want to know if you guys are interested in funding to remove bridges and not replace them. Their goal with
this whole program is that they want to get deficient bridges off the system um and get rid of as many as possible um for for two reasons. One, it uh gets the states a better rating if there's less deficient bridges out there, but uh it
also costs you money every two years to inspect these. So, if you've got a poor bridge that isn't traveled very much, you still have to go through the federal process of inspecting them every couple years. So they're trying to get as many out of the system um you know for that
so they have more federal funds to go around to something else and then they don't you guys don't have to pay your share. So what I show on this map is what was submitted. Um you know that first page is the north half of the county where there was uh u two removals
and two replacements suggested in the north half of the county. The second map was uh two removals and uh three suggested rehab or replacement options. So there's four removals shown on this
map and they are interested in cost estimates for all four of them if you guys would be willing or considered to remove them and not replace them. So, as you saw in that email, what I suggested to them, particularly for the
one removal for bridge uh um 116-17 at Sherbrook Township, I said the premise of that was is that if we're going to remove the bridge, we got to replace the adjacent one to that. They didn't consider that. So
the hope and I know nobody wants to remove any bridges but the hope in submitting some of the removals was if you gave them opportunity it it's no different than in the northeast part of the county where your your federal aid project for next year is to remove one bridge and then replace one bridge. The
hope was is that uh if you showed willingness to remove a couple bridges as long as you got some replacements, they'd be think more kindly about giving you money for replacements and it didn't work. >> So we we we can't have them. So we have to remove the bridge. Okay, the bridge
is gone. Say they cost share that with us. Okay, great. What if we will want to throw culver back in there? If you wanted to throw a culvert back in there, I think their criteria would be is that it would have to be a small enough structure so that it wouldn't qualify for federal inspection. So, it's got to
be less than 20 ft. >> That's pretty narrow. >> Yep. So, as an example for that, the bridges in the east part, um I think both of those are in Brimrose Township. You're never going to get a bridge a culvert short enough on those particular
locations to not be federally expected with the size of those structures. I haven't looked at culvert sizing for him, but I just don't see it. They're too big. Is that for a specified period of time or is it forever that they would
>> I think they would assume forever because they're trying to get bridges off of the system and wipe them off the map. They don't want them to come back. Interestingly, as a sideline to that, some of these um minor structures will become big enough to be inspected
bridges as part of that funding package that we just talked about. So, if you start on the uh um first page of the map, that one bridge, that 119-01. I've never actually been to that one. My understanding is is that's kind of out in the middle of a field.
>> I think that's the only way to get to that field. >> Is that >> Yeah. Which which one you talking? That's That's right of Bruceville place. It's straight north, I think. And then you right at the curved down there, there's there's an old cement bridge and
that's the only bridge to get into a field search. >> That doesn't look very nice. >> That's 119-01, >> which you can see in the picture, the above.
>> It's been messed up for a while. I think >> there's concrete abments with the concrete deck is really what it see >> you know where that one's at. >> Huh? >> You know where that one's at? >> Yeah. >> Is that one going out to that field?
>> Yeah. The access to the field. I think they can get in there from the other side too. I think I don't know. It's a very minimal maintenance road. >> Oh yeah. >> Much to it. >> Lot of most most of the time it was
flood. >> Yeah, it's definitely a low water crossing bridge. They probably shouldn't be driving over it with machinery. These are the ones that I'm talking about in Primrose Township. Those are pretty big ridges. Those aren't You're
not going to replace those with culverts. Yep. >> They're going to be bigger structure than that. The only one The only one that you might get back to covers. No, that seems pretty unlikely.
We've had to all dirt in there quite a few times cuz the dog kills in the springtime. >> I think that's the only access in there. where there's we've had to pull trees
out of there just piles up in there. >> So, for all intents and purposes of low water crossing, that one you could probably replace with some kind of culverts and make it a low water crossing so that it's only passable when it's not flooding. Well, that's pretty high,
but it's pretty I don't know. It's It's right off the road, too. >> Yeah, >> it looks like they can get into it from the other side. [Music] >> It's probably more convenient there.
It's just a whole field break right there. Looks like they trail. There's a couple other water crossings in that same area up there
with So if you take away the premise that uh you would need a particular structure back the ones that I talked about in uh um Primrose Township that 12415 and 12415-1 I mean I think the question there
becomes there's there's a bridge every mile across that big channel. Are there any of those? I mean th those so so the process to take out the fund the the bridges with state and federal state andor federal funding is is not the
probably the the cheapest way to take out the bridge. Um if you were to hire somebody to come and take out the bridge on your own, it would cost you less than going through them, but then you have to pay for it 100% yourself. So, this is an opportunity um to maybe take out some
bridges that you may have to take out and you might not have funding to replace. So, the question becomes, are they in good enough condition to continue using them at this point? If they're not, then maybe it's worth asking for the funding to do it. Um,
one's rated at 12 tons over there and the other's 15 tons. So they're not completely shot in but they're also I mean they're not farm traffic bridges either with truss. We're not getting any farm equipment to
cross that with the truss anyway. It's probably 18 ft wide. So are those in locations where that's going down in the middle on that pur road here. So >> out in the middle of nowhere, just a one
guy, the farmer uses it to get to the steer stands. And then they got some wildlife uh food blocks in there, too. So there's three miles between 11 and 15.
So there'd be two bridges in there, right? Oh, three bridges. There's four on us. >> When do we have to have this decided by >> they want something pretty quick before your next meeting? >> I think this takes a little
investigating before we make the decision. We'll check things out and >> that's what I'm wondering. If you don't go to the locals, talk to the townships. >> So let's find a date. has to. >> No. >> So, we're figuring we're figuring Well, we're going through here trying to figure out which one we want which one
or which two we want to send in to remove. >> We don't have zero to four. You can reply back to them and say, "Oops, I'm sorry. Nope, we didn't mean that. We don't want to remove any of them." You could certainly do that. >> So, I just can't see if we can't come
back in and keep some some sort of access to some of these. Obviously, like you were showing them them bridges and I mean the big bridges. That's There's not >> that's going to be a god awful project. They're you know >> I don't know how much water comes through but >> oh I'm wrong there. October 15th is when
this is due back to them. So >> could do some investigation >> do some investigation >> and then decide our next meeting. >> Yep. Certainly can let me look at this map. It's easier to look at I think maybe to Yeah. So there is on that east side of it there is three miles there between counter road 11 and counter road
15. So there's two bridges. So the question becomes uh can you take one of them out and get around? You know, they need to keep going back to this, but um you know, even the governor was on the radio or TV a couple months ago and said we're just not going to be able to
afford to have a bridge at the mile at some point somewhere. Something's got to give. So I'm not advocating one way or another. I just state asked the question. So, and if none of these are I mean part part of the answer back to me is on the uh the bridge 116-17
the answer back to that one would be well no we can't remove that one because what we told you was is that we'd consider removing that one if you give us money to fix the other one. So if you're not going to give us money to fix the other one then no we can't remove them. That to me is an easy response to
them on these other ones. No, we have to have at least a a reason to say no, we can't. Otherwise, they're going to ask, well, okay, so it's a 15 ton bridge now, or it's a 12tonon bridge now. 5 years from now, it's probably a three-tonon bridge
or a close it. Um, you know, what's your plan? If we're going to make you close it in a few years, then what would you do? And I I mean, that's an easy answer, too, as well. All we just bought ourselves 3 to five more years of having a bridge >> and we'll figure it out then.
>> I mean eventually some of that >> the answer too. update that we have to >> I think we need to spend some time investigating where >> yeah that makes >> ins and outs of traffic on
>> if that's the only way you can some of those >> why they wouldn't give us an option would call us back in or something like that just kind of >> well that's the that's their idea is they want to remove as many deficient
bridges from the system as possible and if you just remove it and you don't twice or anything. Then they can do more because you can do five bridge removals for every bridge replacement. So they just get to make their map with less on itself.
So stick a pin in that one and you guys want to do some investigation and then if you can make a final decision at your next thing in October then we can get back to it. I'm probably going to make a phone call in the meantime and just ask a couple questions just to say hey know if they come back and say no we can't
remove any of these is it a problem for any reason to me they just take that money that they're going to use and they probably push it to another county but what happened but if they're not going to consider any replacements for you then does that
matter Right. >> Um, only other thing I was going to mention today is they should be putting the signing up tomorrow for your chip seal coats because they actually called in to locate which is how you know that maybe they're actually coming. Um, and then Thursday, Friday is
supposed to be there two days. Hopefully not leaking into Saturday, but supposed to be there two days to seal code 18 and 25. So, actually worked out okay. You hate to go late in the year with seal coats, but I think this Thursday and Friday is going to be better than last Thursday and Friday because we do kind of like
some heat when we do that. So, I think it'll be all right. So, just so you guys know, in case you get phone calls of what the heck are they doing out here? I didn't have anything else unless you guys did. and Central Specialties will be setting
up in the L. This fisher pit this coming next week. So, >> we got signage down there, too. Good signage down there. The truck coming out of there. >> I'll make sure that they they're going
to be running our 25 north. So they know about our chip seal project uh also and uh and stuff. So and I tell the tech too about it.
>> It should go good. >> Ben and Tyler are still working on some township flex fund applications too. So, I'm sure at some point they will have uh some uh letters for you to sign in support of of those topics.
It's all due on September 19th. So, they'll be tracking that down and getting that taken care of pretty quick. >> All right. >> Okay. Thanks, guys. >> Charlie, do you want to go next? Yeah, Jenna. Yes, HRFN.
I sent out an email on the the status of HR issues and uh think you're all familiar with that. Um, one question I had was did was there a budget submitted for custodian this year? There was.
Okay. So, I want to make sure we keep that in the budget. at a going rate. Right now, Hannah is uh doing most of the custodial work, doing a great job actually. Looks good. Um she comes in on
her day off Fridays and then I think some Saturdays too. And so >> budgeting for 25,000. So $20 an hour. >> Yes. >> And then is there an expense side of that too? Uh yeah, the expense is like
50 >> 50. >> Yeah. Throughout electricity, water maintenance, >> mowing, >> right? We have somebody doing our mowing for us or is it >> So that's good. We should keep that in there because, you know, with this 3% thing we want to we don't know how long
she's going to want to continue to do that. So >> well, we had discussed earlier all of us through the end of the year that was going to be kind of the limit for having For what? >> For until we look to get somebody else
to do it. >> Yeah. But she >> discussed earlier. I guess if she wants to keep doing it, that's fine with me. But >> yeah. Well, cuz we probably would hit that 25. I wouldn't guess. So other than that, um, everything's going pretty smoothly
in the courthouse. State attorney. We uh uh the the East Central Judicial District judges um they've kind of been listening to me over the years that we used to have one judge that would be here every
every month or every court session which was good and then once he retired then we had ended up having a revolving door where every every court session was a different judge. So then there were so I reached out to the residing judge and asked if we could address that and uh so
now two judges which is better than eight agreed to handle our court sessions on a rotating basis which helps a lot because you know I call them kind of the usual suspects put it that way are appearing
so it's good when the judge gets to know faces and names and and uh kind of understands gets a better feel for what we do here in Steel. So, so that was nice of them. So, now we just have two judges. So, works out pretty well there.
And um no major crimes, so that's good. But always got always have things going on. So, and then I don't know if you're aware of this, Chris, but um our human service zone is is with we uh it's called a valley human
services and it's trail and steel counties. >> Okay. And uh and so we continue to have you know what's called chips children needed protection matters vote going on in both counties but steel has its uh its share of those
as well which I handle those too and from the juvenile court standpoint. So >> continue with those and but that's going smoothly as well. I'm assuming human services is going to present here probably within the next couple of months because they usually come in what every quarter or something. So
>> yeah, >> it's all I have. >> Okay. Right. Oh, the other thing too I brought up with Richard and Chris yesterday is in my meeting with them and I'm sure they'd share it, but I'll share it is that when we look when we're
looking at a COLA adjustment, um I think it's more fair u to give a specific amount to every employee rather than a percentage because what happens is as you guys know you make a
math if we do let's say 2% for Wayne, who I think is our highest paid employee, compared to 2% for somebody on the road department, Wayne would get a way larger cost of living adjustment, whereas cost of living goes up the same for everybody
regardless of what your income is. So, I suggested we uh take whatever percentage you guys decide on mult or multiply by the number of employees and divide by the number of employees. that way come up with a set
dollar amount. Say it's two grand and everybody gets two grand rather than somebody getting 90,000 might get 3,800 versus another person might get thousand. So just just a food for thought. I think I don't think the
higher paid employees would have a problem with that and I think the lower paid employees would appreciate it. So they help with morale and and fairness. So >> thanks Charlie. >> Thanks Charlie.
>> Thank you. >> What do you got in this old cord cabin for us? >> Um Wayne would like to see some ice in or put into it. The roof is really bad and he wants people to be able to go inside
of it and like tour it >> isn't it locked all the time >> because it is unsafe. >> Okay. What's this now? >> This door's not over here >> by the bridge. >> Um he would I mean he said it's one of the first buildings in Steel County I
believe. So he wants to kind of keep it up and things like that. So he'd like to see some money set aside for it. So some and he said he talked to Hoffman's about it and what needs to be fixed on
all of it. And >> so is it is it a historical building? Is it roped underneath that? So does that come with a lot of different things that you can and can't do? >> No, I'm just some of that stuff is >> I'm not sure. and if it would follow
some grant funding. I guess I'm not sure on it, but he wants it to be on your radar because it needs >> Let's have Ben take a look at that and see if there's anything under >> he should he should contact the Steel County Historical Society as well. >> Yeah, >> they've got they've got some new people
on the board that are very >> good at looking for money, too. >> And then I know whether that actually qualifies as a historical site. I would I mean the courthouse does, but I don't know what that building does. that that Ben can check all that. >> Hey,
>> yeah, it got moved. I think he said, from the river bottom to here. >> Yeah. >> So, >> so it's ours then? >> Yes, it's donated to us and we moved it here. I guess >> I believe it was like the first structure in supposedly in Steel County
had moved. >> There's a sign apparently on there. I've never seen the sign, but but he'd like it fixed for the >> centennial. >> Yeah. So, which is next summer. So, I'll
have Ben look into it. Um the architect architectural stuff. Um he was the guy was here two weeks ago and he took a bunch of pictures and he toured the place and did lots of pictures. So,
>> I was gone when he was here, but >> that must be what they use to build their >> to build their 360 video thing. He came in and took a bunch of pictures. >> They're working on that.
I have the B building permit. That's all that I have about the cabin and the >> architecture. Yeah. Yeah. [Music] >> Yeah. >> So, we made a couple building per
events. >> Yeah. >> Going to our eight on those. >> Yeah. If everything looks good, those will be going on farmsteads. They're existing already. >> It's paid up under >> Yep. Everything's paid. The one was blown over in a storm. So, he's just going to rebuild.
Make a motion to approve. >> I'll second motion and a second. All in favor? >> I follow the date. Are we doing any more on the budget today? >> So that budget needs to be approved at
the next meeting, the final budget. So I know you guys went over um the bottom half portionment of the budget, all the material and things like that. And then me and Ben kind of reorked the
budget um to get that 3%. Um you guys should have gotten these papers last week of the week to four. Um we kept the mills the same. So in 2025 we did 79.45
and this year we're looking at doing about 79.44. or four and that's before any of the salary or pillow adjustments what everybody would be asking for >> that's the 4% cola >> correct yep and I suggest that if you do
cut salaries in cola that you need to keep that money in the budget for that 3% um and just move it to the courthouse improvement line just so you're sitting at the same mill as last year and that dollar figure
won't mess up that for 17 years to come. So, just keep that in mind. Like I said, like one tenth of a mill less than last year. going to talk about it now or is that
another date in September and hash it out or what's even >> Yeah. You said there's no cola involved in those numbers right now. No, there is 4% is in there. >> That's what I thought.
>> Yep. It's what they asked for. >> The 4%. >> Correct. Yeah. >> And then >> last year we did two and a half. >> Correct. Ben and I looked at the cola numbers. It looks like it's going to be in the two to two and a half this year
from federal standpoint. Probably closer to two actually. Right now >> we have to think about sustainability too about being 4% every year. >> Yeah. Well, and you look at like what
Charlie said too. I mean that's that's I can see both sides of that the you get percent and also them higher salaries are people who've been here probably pretty long time. >> I know the state in their last benium
did four one year and six the following year. >> Mhm. >> 10% over two years but that's they're spending other people's money too. Yeah. The thing is we want to keep our employees too. We're sitting in a good spot.
>> Yeah. >> My feeling is that the budget looked pretty good to me where it was at. And I would be good with 2 and a half% cola. Yeah, >> it's kind of what my feeling
>> because because we also went to a raise table where we're getting regular raises as well. >> So I know I know the argument will be well that's they're separate from each other but >> the bottom line is
we are giving increases. >> Yeah. We definitely saying stick with the step program and >> yeah, >> I think the employees really like the step because it's >> predictable organized.
>> Makes it fair for everyone >> and >> or even 2%. Last year I was in favor of 2%. We ended up going with two and a half. Then on your on the step program, I I'm
not sure what everybody else did, but Ben and I talked and you know, Ben and I are the ones who kind of came up with that step. So happy wages and salary still at the Northakota address. But anyway,
I'm I'm Ben and I talked and we didn't see anything that would merit more than one step for employee and longevity career is rewarded through the sub program. Right.
Richard, what do you think? I like Charlie and Ben's idea as well with that cola. see if we split it. But or else I'd be given 2% both.
>> I don't know if that system is typical, Charlie. That's what you were discussing >> about the colar raises. I don't know if that's typical amongst other entities >> as far as adding >> all the confidence used. Thanks. >> Oh, it's an addant thing.
>> What? But I need to a lot of people utilize it in that format. >> Oh, and taking the average and giving everyone it all together. >> I I can't answer that specifically, but I can tell you that's a trail method in the last many years. >> Okay. So, >> they do a certain dollar amount trailers
or they do percentage. >> They do a percentage. They use the percent whatever percentage they agree on and then they combine all that combine all that and then they divide it by the number of employees an average. >> So then all the employees get the same dollar amount
>> same. Yeah. That's just suggestion up to you guys. You can sign that signature. Yeah. What is [Music]
We don't mess up the title. [Music] Also, if you don't if you don't say back, I think it' be the next person next time. [Music]
In case anyone shows up here for something else [Music] two and a half hours. We still thinking of cola or what are we doing here? I mean that cola I like the percentage
as well too because it does know if you've been here a long time that gives you throws you a little more money too. So yeah, >> just build both ways. >> That's where I'm at. >> I think I that'd be good. I'd be good value. We should decide on percentage on
this thing with it. >> I'll make a motion to put our cola at 2% and leave it as a percentage the way it was in the budget for budget purposes. >> We want to move that
that money to buildings buildings fun courthouse and the other percent. >> Yeah. >> Essentially yes. Yes, cuz that's what it would be cuz there's four on there, right? >> Correct.
>> Yeah. I'm talking about 2% for the cola adjustments, right? Yeah. >> So, I don't know which 2% or the moving funds part >> for the four we we budgeted 4%. Uh >> oh. Move the remaining portion. Okay. Yeah, I got you.
>> Yes. >> You don't want to drop the mills. >> Does that need to be included in the motion? I I think that >> and to move the remaining budgeted to percent to the building funds courthouse repair courthouse repair
>> got a motion and carried and a second by Strand all in favor I >> I opposed the motion carried >> um do I will update or do you want to approve your final budget now or just
wait a month I'll update those yellow sheets for you >> don't you update Yes. And you can do the final one. >> Does you have to have it in by when meeting? >> October 10th. >> So we do that Friday, October 10th.
>> We can do it on the 7th. Okay. >> I'll have all that kind of stuff. You guys can be Do we want to advertise for a part-time custodian or something? Put some put something else so we can
see what's out there. Did we do that before, Charlie? I mean, we've got it. Okay. If I remember correctly, Hannah's out in Bismar today. Um, >> yes. Yeah. >> Said that she wanted to be done by flu season just because that's a lot of she
has all those flu clinics and people coming in office hours. >> She she does want to be done. >> She said that at the beginning. I haven't asked her recently, but might be a discussion worth having with Hannah. If I can reach I'll reach out to Hannah
and then um well maybe we should do a condition we I reach out to Hannah and she says I want to be done by October 15 then yeah we go ahead and advertise if she said it's she wants to continue it through the end of the year
then we can do it that way. >> Okay. Yeah, I think I think we should make sure with Hannah. >> Yeah, we'll check with her and if she wants out, we'll advertise and she wants to remain till like whatever the end of the year and we'll wait until that.
>> Yeah, cuz I just don't think we need a full-time person. But >> we don't need a full-time. >> No, >> but we never we never had really had a full-time >> just for the last year or two. I think well I mean numbers >> we're doing way le I'll put it this way
we have way less time being put in and courthouse looks better if >> it's a matter of we do work >> right >> but when it comes down to you know waxing the floors and stuff like that do we just hire someone to do that in the
spring or I mean what do we do you know Everyone got a chance to look over the bills. We got a motion to approve them. >> I'll move to approve the bills that
all in favor [Music] motion to close the budget hearing. I'll make that more mand >> I'll second it by all in favor >> I >> opposed budget meeting
a motion to adjourn still county commissioner meeting motion I'll second all in favor I hold being adjourned. Thank you.