okay we'll call our January 7th Commission meeting to order uh I moved approve agenda up to the top here are there any agenda additions discussive budget with you guys4 okay so Casey down on new
business any other additions if there are none is there a motion to approve the agenda as amended so move is there a second I'll second that any more discussion all in favor say I I opposed
motion carried approval of minutes uh we had a speci meeting minutes and a regular meeting minutes uh reading through the special meeting minutes I I found one correction that we should put in
there when we approved the liquor license for Lake View catering we didn't put we just put approve Lake View catering we didn't specify that it was for the liquor license so we probably better put that in there so if everyone's had a chance to
read over both sets of minutes is there a motion to approve both sets of minutes from December I'll make that motion we have a motion is there a second second any more discussion all in favor say
I opposed motion carried next item is to appoint a chairman for 2025 I nominate Brandon oxen I'll second that okay there's motion to
nominate Brandon in a second any more discussion all in favor say I I opposed motion carried Brandon as the chairman great see
portfolios if you guys want to do that any you guys want to see the current list you guys know that you have yeah you've got it right right here I've got one right here so anything that's sticking out to anybody that wants to change something
uh seal County Public Health Board I've been on there for two years so I would do another year to fulfill that three-year term I'd like to keep the ones I got I guess I'll probably I'll have to be on the aacy Valley Health Board probably for one more year I
think if it's three years so I know you guys had mentioned before that you guys that have been on here longer that we switched you switched them up pretty good each year Well it last year we kept them all the same previous so I mean if
if what I'm saying is you guys we probably got to get you know some of these moved around a little bit I guess I've been on the jda board for years and one way or
another you want to stay after that's another one I don't know if that's a term necessarily because you're on there before this even right yeah before commissioner yeah I was on there for city of
for a long time I don't think that is a term I think that's just what we appoint every year okay for portfolio I think and we need two on the jda board so me and B B is in no for
today is that uh jda board is that meeting every month well yeah but we've been going every other month pretty much unless there's business to attend to first Thursday second Thursday of each month 8
A.M here at the coros at the empowerment Zone don't here well what should we do then should we just put on the line see who wants what Water Resources anybody want to do that who's you're on that right now I was on
that and uh you know I went to three meetings I think because they have their meetings the same time as we do okay and then I was went went to several of the Elmer Dam meetings as well but those those will be wrapping
up I suppose um i' I'd be happy keeping whatever whatever I had before too you know I don't have a problem with any of them you want to leave everything the same again I I I will stay on the jda board and I'd like
to I have one more year if I do the Public Health Board that'll fulfill threeyear term yeah I think that's so those two I'd like to stay up I think we keep you on that especially the public health are kind of nice with a lot of resources
you've been involved already for this long you know it's kind of I guess there's we got to look at as anybody want to change something so I mean especially like Chris or Brandon or Perry if you guys want to dive into the
roads and gravel or the Ben side of things because he's he's got lots of stuff he's need not really you're expensive usually I us I usually five ways to cover that it's true usually
not me not notm not like I said I'm I'm kind of with Perry I guess I am fine with with the way we've had it here before but I mean if if somebody else wants to do some of that too they
can no matter me well it's up to you if we all agree we should leave from the way it is we'll decide to Park Board later won't we who's all involved in that that'll be a separate discussion yeah we're g decide how many well that's
be a three-year term as well like I said you know if we put it on a portfolio we could just make a note that it's a three-year term whoever Market to that Agy as far as like roads and gravel and
bridges and stuff it's it's lesser than it used to be but it's um always in constant conversation usually yeah yeah the way I feel about it here too it's
it's even though if it is a portfolio you're kind of the direct thing but I mean absolutely anything that wants anybody wants to balce ideas off CU I mean absolutely yeah that's not
a that's I'm not against that either so well if we agree to leave with the same can we get a motion for that I'll make that motion motion from strand I will second second from Perry all in
favor I opposed motion oh yep that changes every here right yep mile up to it was 679 67 to S motion by Str through the
mileage I'll second second M Perry in favor oppos motion carried Department uh no not in addition but just a removal uh boss Architects we can take that off of the agenda they don't they're uh they were contacted
pretty late within the holiday season and they're just not ready for you guys today so and we told them that would be fine so next month you'll see them is is heer coming today heer's coming today or online I gave her the option and she
made it seem like she would be here but and I know Mike's going to discuss when he's when he's on here about contacting the two Road guys about some things he had called me and I said we might as well wait till this
meeting so we know whose portfolios were going to be on there so he'll he'll touch on that I'm sure the licenses quick you do that y late and the hope of course they'll turn their fees in and paperwork they
just make motion approve them with their licenses motion by I'll second second by Chris all in favor opposed carried
is it weird it is feels funny it does won't be here today said c bid BS yep so do you want to go there yes let's do that uh so for those of you that
haven't seen something like this before um we look at the on that first page there the Galvin corrugated metal pipe the 16 gauge at the 18 inch at the Hilo cool the $24 and then all the way to the right to that the 24inch wide 16 gauge band at
8640 um so those are the two columns that we look at I highlighted them for you guys uh and then the 14 gauge the 24 36 and 48 and then those as well prices went down overall um last year's prices were
like 30 40 50 cents higher than what they are this year so true north was the only B we received recommendation is to accept an award of the bid to and that's a common thing you guys do annual North
is since I've been here they've been that's been been so I'll make appr motion by strand to approve second by crer all in favor all
Bo motion carried bills you do the parkboard meeting you have anyone else coming Matt or just you or it's coming after your commission we were told it's after commission yeah we we still need to do the let's let's figure out who's going
to be on that board Soil District and park board members you want to do that part I have the Soil District my portfolio so I'll I'll just
keep that okay I'm G keep that keep so are we going to do this by nominations or how this you guys want to do it I think we should have three on I think we should have three to so three Commissioners five total five
total I think I think that's good yep sounds like Barry doesn't want to be on there well I mean I'll be on there the meetings the meetings are going to be still be here at the same time as a
commission meeting yeah is that all we're gonna do this I just wanted in case something comes up that we don't have to wait for the next commissioner meetings that if we got had to get together we could but yeah we'll be having at the same time here so I'll make a nomination of Chris Bo
and Richard be on that board I'm fine with I'm fine with myself being on there Richard you there all the time is you're good with it Chris yeah I'll second that nomination all in
favor hios perod that's for three your term correct yes I think that's what we're doing this your term yeah then we'll have and we can always
where we could change that too though when as far as what we're looking at we can I mean if somebody has to get off we can move to a two two yeah it's either three or five board I think I don't know if this is
for now or later but right now they have three at L so you're going have to figure out who is out or they can sit in they just can't vote and I talked to Paul and didn't answer he is going to show up today but
Paul Paul's not gonna make it today just don't make the meetings I think I'd rather something that's going to show up all the time I that on there then we can discuss that you suppose we need to have a
motion and everything to make the five person parkboard official as well I do that inard meeting then I haven't heard back from that Regional livestock guy he was GNA send
it to his Superior and and some dates so maybe that be a do thing I'm not really sure what's involved with that to be honest it's just going over what he found
so didn't really said much or gave me an agenda so so we we'll just wait till they provide us with some dates dates yeah would you guys rather be Zoom want meet per I guess it depends on when the
meetings the dates like I said he has anyes yet but yeah and if you can find out how maybe how long I might take I
away it was longer than what would be for so we was thinking maybe a couple hours little more digging into that and see what they need I'll ask for an agenda it's that long that be
coming yeah I'll check with or something [Music] um must wait who got the new
laptop you got Travis ordered your guys new laptops what he did oh he did it was news to me it was part of his budget so he he told me something about it was in the it one or
whatever all three on yeah they're uh they're not the fully ruggedized big ones anymore they're partial rugged eyes they're more of a they look more like a laptop but they're still they're not like they're not the big thick ones the big old top they lot
cheaper they're a lot cheaper they're a lot cheaper more manageable they're cheaper they that it's still just as as far as like the operating system and stuff like that Travis can access a whole lot on the really big thick ones because they're all locked down usually
whereas these ones he can he can manage a lot better so what's the what's the Paradox that is the road software that we use for all of our tracking all the reports that you guys come from that I got
yeah it's a three-year deal we've done that this is just it's just do yes it's part of the budget yell at him quick yeah January meetings usually go well we just met
December we got a water leak up there Circle check you might water leak a lot of water's been Us in the past week that's I think that's uh went to everybody up been sharing oh yeah the guys check everything fine
morning Casey morning I've got good news for you guys so that's you do um I was able to get a grant through North Dakota um to cover our Sidwell cost for this last year um they gave us a check for $1
17,569 nice so that helped with my budget line earlier this year we had also I'd ask you guys to approve $99,000 for a five year contract for our my Assessor's
website to update our website so that helps offside that b so we're about positive $7,700 on my side great good job thanks awesome let you guys know that thank you hopefully I can keep
giving you good news that's all I got for you all right right thank you thanks thanks M coming or is he just pop on [Music] that is don't know Rec we really have much left here oh we
isn't nothing couple Mike's Mike's coming I think uh Ben was calling watch to we paid for them Mike has nothing oh no he said he talked to decided to
wait on that so he was going to wait to see who portfolio in case we change portfolios yeah so he's going to plan on having a meeting with us and what that all is future projects and that type point a little planning me for this year that's
taken care of how's that looking the prairie dog uh looks like it should fill by the end of February so we should get something in March um we should get our poll our 1.6 million some change that we got before what it looks like right now uh and then
I think there's still 600 something thousand left in the house bu 1505 it can be used for roads and bridges uh so before we started going on and I kind of talked about it last time but before we started having the discussion of where we're going to do like traveling and all
that type of stuff what projects do we have coming up that we need to pre-plan for um you know we have that stuff going up north uh at Tim B's place there push back so what funds are we using what are
we not using how much fun we're going to have available with the seal codes and stuff that are going in how much Fone after that is going to be available yeah we should be advertising here soon real soon on seal coding seing so we don't get the last April May that's usually the
highest bids we should have been already advertising to be honest you to redo 11 not going get chip sealed we're going to gra it probably better than what it is right
now summary it got cold it's gotten you feel it's it's just like this I the lot of roads are don't know what's going on it's weird cross is going deeper this year must be I know one thing with SE coating though I know we need to last year we kind of pushed Reed to get our crack
seiling done we need to get that done we need to get caught up in that we've been lacking on that that's pretty huge they got some them didn't they they got a little bit done but we need I mean a lot more that should be done before we start is that going to be
uh something we you know we want the road boys to do you know last year when it was pretty mild I mean now it's too cold of course but it was mild though we need to talk to them see if they cracks are wide open I notice on some of are some of them
ones are they need to get filled in especially there's no snow to push there's I was hoping they'd have you know we well we'll discuss that with Reed I think and see where we can get with that but yes I agree with that Richard you
guys also approved summer helmet this year for for the road guys again is he advertised yet not yet should probably start yeah so I I think two didn't we do that last year too though just this yeah there's requirements now that
they have to be 18 years old so no no waivers so pushing it now I I think would help especially for college students that are thinking about it because they know TR had really good luck with some college students last year um that stuck around in the summer some football players from the
University that stuck around you know they only could work certain hours because of football and whatnot but I think anything helps discuss we so we can get that advertis away they already approved like 25 an hour I think is what you guys
appr yeah that's pretty I think that was the I just did the math yesterday you there was 36,000 approved uh so 20 25 25 an hour three
people 40 hours a week for 12 weeks you see 36 how many hours we you approve the dollar amount per hour and then go 50 or do have less how many weeks did you have we're going have eight weeks offset
that we can tell them open overtime for the next eight weeks or can the main ready I'm sure they would oh yeah I'm sure well hopefully we can find some people to do that that'd be good to get caught up on but I'm sure we're going to
do some striping possibly this year as well I think there was a grant I thought for this year yep Grant I think they're going to do a significant amount of chip and seal to
this you're correct well there's quite a bit that needs to be done it comes back to that funding discussion really and where we're at if we have you know is it $4 million $5 million is it
$500,000 you know what is that total fund when it's all said and done how do you pre-plan for that a little bit that's I think we need to sit on Mike and and that's what Mike wants to do talk to Bar he wanted to wait until the so you guys figure out your so you can okay so he'll be putting a
meeting together here pretty soon so keep an eye out for your emails everyone got a chance look over the bills I'll make a motion the bills motion by Richard I'll second that second by Perry to approve the bills all
in favor I I post what she carried we know better don't no I don't have a new Lake C I said I don't have a new Lake C okay
that about it Bobby pepp be at nine yes is she online no no I would assume she would be in yeah different I gave her the link and
the she made it seem like she first sorry guys about your timing I kind of figured it might take extra minutes should we take a five minute recess 5 10 minute recess looking for a five minute recess I'll second
that favor next month will have everybody here at 8:15 br yest this roll's been sitting in there for about three or four months Halloween Halloween candy
it's good till next week when you recycle it you give it to the kids yes well I for sure thought there was to be longer conversation to for word s just for your portfolio in
general for all of it was going to take up at least a half hour I think swi out portfolio everybody stay where after us and then um R Ox Chris and BR and
Krueger Rich sorry Richard Brandon Krueger and I are not yeah which is okay with me yeah right now won't be so bad a few years it might be next two years might
be then might be really easy not sure if they' want me you ask questions keep that comment to himself Mak money else going for's that might change think
so here one you need me yeah I think we should amend that and cancel yeah probably cancel what we should move it back let's move it
back Sumer yeah I got something no I already got something put together I've had it from prev maybe we should just start now you think it's too early I think right now too early I
think February early March is Facebook I'll send it right send it to those guys matter and I'll send it to bradner and Jeff see if they got
any we got one here Ethan started when he was 15 that is true so a parent can't sign a waiver for a 16 or 17y old according to I'm gon look into it though because
there's got to be a it's just kind of Gotta Be You would think there's got to be a way around that I mean they was 16 for yeah I will look into it per all
got Tyler doing upstairs work I don't know what he's doing what's Tyler do I'm just kiding it was uh we're doing security lighting on the outside of the couse part of that gr
so he's getting that stuff already okay he really thinks it breaking here it's part of it man mat I tell have we got any FKS for fber over the
shop no uh he was I talk TR yesterday and he was still waiting on somebody get back to hoping [Music] to keep the rest of the phone system in the fiber stuff underneath
30,000 because he needs about another 17 or 18 to do uh server for this place one more server just getting in life we would rather not take it out of the it budget if we had ARA funds to handle it you got do it that way so yeah
our new system would work a lot faster if you had new server it's just really too big for our current server so it runs a little on the slow side what's theage it's like six or seven I know
honestly maybe it is I it's getting in like I think I told you I give you said something that's yours oh okay I don't remember if I said that to you or not no good morning good morning morning
thanks for the invite today I just put together a little bit of information here got three there three there you don't need one I have one so you ready for me to get rolling absolutely absolutely hi I'm Bobby heer
Olson with heer Olson Architects I have an office over in buckton been doing architecture for over 30 years I have previously worked here in the in the building um when we did the toilet room renovation project Ben Gates called me
um well I should introduce Grant mundall he's an intern with my office so I brought him with so he can get some experience today too perect so Ben called said you guys have got a quote from Reed Hammer that do some tuck poting masonry work um so one
of the things I included in here was kind of who we are our firm I included three projects that we've done some masonry tuck pointing on one of them was the Northland Rescue Mission in downtown ground Forest that one we did After the flood that's probably the one we we finished
in 2022 kind of similar in size and scope of what you guys are doing the only thing different we did on that one is we did have to take the paint off off the building so we took the existing paint off um the lower part of the building
the upper part there wasn't paint you can see that then we retuck pointed all the brick on most of the building they had little over $400,000 to spend so we weren't able to get the one side we weren't able to get done what we did is
we we bid it as a foursided project so that when the bids came in we could take as much as what they could afford to get done so that's that's how we did that project um we used Midwest or midcontinental restoration was a low bidder we we did
get two bids on the project um so SI sizewise and everything it looks like your bids are pretty close to that project there's two bids there by way oh there's two bids in there okay um we did replace some Ma and
rep pieces left that too and then we did replace some brick Parts um so that's one project that was IL to this the other one the next sheet Mandan Beanery which was uh next to the depot in Mandan they had some um funds
from the North Dakota Department of Transportation and what we did with that project is we redid All the wood all the wood on the exterior we put in new windows um redid windows and then we also tuck pointed all the masonry on that project too and that tuck pointing
we was actually done by pson Contracting out of Amaro they were the low on that particular project so that one went very well of course preco um numbers look really good to what we're dealing with now and
then the other project I included um was the Northwood Museum after the tornado we did a couple of historic preservation projects in Northwood the other thing we did with Northwood is we did help them um we did analysis on all their buildings um City buildings that were um
insured through the State Fire and tornado NATO to make sure that they all were valued that their insurance was valued at the correct amount because a lot of their projects they didn't have the right Insurance values on their properties so that was another thing we did with the city of Northwood after
their tornado and then the other two sheets we just listed some City projects things that we've you know different communities we've worked for and then our last one historic preservation um I do a lot of historic preservation where um I enjoy it it's
one of the fun things um as an architect so we do have a lot of expertise in that realm so then based on your guys's estimates I see you got um readed hammer I'm not familiar I know who he is but I don't know what type of
work he's done previously most of the restoration projects we've done have been um by people who who do do a lot of restoration either Bradco um out of Fergus Falls or midcontinental restoration and like Paulson did a
couple of those smaller ones too so um it they're they're pretty big proba readed hammer is yeah perfect good rugby they just did the one in rugby the doing some stuff un I
believe awesome so it sounds like you guys have funds and you want to kind of do your whole building here um so what are your guys's goals for the project what I think what comes to mind is when you look at
that that uh estimate it's it's but then you look at the next one and then you look at the next one and that's just as much it's a large amount of money um not saying that there's a
there's there's a ton of work so we felt comfortable what we're looking for is to bring somebody in here to guide us along the way a little bit with that um are these the same is it the same work yeah just there more there's
ceiling a couple years later or something on the bottom yeah here Le these two okay there's that addition of the sealer yeah um so couple thing couple things that just stick out with me
masonry sealers you have to be very careful with masonry sealers we typically don't like to apply them okay um one of the main reasons we don't like to apply them is because when you or you have to be very selective in
what you pick and why you're doing it because when you have the the stone and brick especially brick when it's fired it already has its protective seal on it okay um when you put a sealer over it you you can
create you can you can't ever get it off and it can create discoloring and it can trap moisture within your material and then it can start spalling out so I haven't seen a lot of Success With
The Masonry sealers okay just for some of those reasons so that would need to be really looked at what you're doing the secret there is a secretary of interior standards that's published um that you should be following when you
do preservation work on a project and the architect can help you with that um with historic preservation you can also get guidance from the State Historical Society um in North Dakota they can also help you determine if those products that are being used meet the secretary
interior standards um what uh what kind of rate or how how do you charge how do I charge um so I it's kind of here today to get an idea of what you guys were looking for and I could do a fee proposal there's a couple different ways that we
do our fees um we can do them by hourly um we can do them by percentage of cost of construction or we can do a lump some um I I don't I think the biggest thing is we don't exactly know what we need do we need somebody to tell us
what's wrong with the building so what what I would recommend is I would hire an architect to put together a bid package and competitively bid it then that way you know that
everybody's bidding Apples to Apples Y and that's what we want yeah and you and I feel then you you're fiduciary with your with your spending dollars and if according to the Sentry code if you're spending more than $200,000 you're supposed to procure an architect or
engineer to do the project and it's supposed to be advertised and then and bid through that Century code process I don't know if you guys have been through that as a board um Richard you probably have um that's how we did
the bathroom inovation here was through that process typically when we go through the what we call Design bid build we put together set of construction drawings we identify what type of mortars you're going to be using what type of C you're to be using that's what we want that we
want if we do need a sealer um that that's typically what how we do that sometimes you you might want to look at window replacement I don't know what kind of dollars you have um I don't how long has it been since
you've done a window replace project here they look to be in pretty good shape though we just had 90s prob they're old early 90s early 90s sometimes there are some energy grants out there for window replacement
um those are have there were a lot more of them in the early 2000 for window replacement we've done some window replacement on some cour houses um with some Grant funds um we need to fix the building you need to fix the building we
probably have less than a quarter we we need just being that sounds right yes no no we I mean we don't until we know exactly how much yeah we don't know where to and I think your bids when we do the masonry tuck point and restoration project sometimes those bids
the low bid and high bid will be double that's what we've been seeing out there so I feel that I could put together a bid package for you um put it out there for bid and just get the best bid so do we bid the architect
or do we hire a certain architect so with the AR with architecture according to the century code if if you're under $35,000 um you can hire the architect direct do you through what that would cost us hire them you're proba with the
amount of with a $400,000 project you'd probably be under that $35,000 to hire direct without advertising and you can spend up to $70,000 in a calendar cycle with an architect or engineer without having to go through the formal um
advertising um through the centry sure so that's I would say you would be under that threshold if you're doing a $400,000 project so in that particular scenario when I've been on the bubble I'll just usually figure out I kind of want to see what your guys's project was
like before I did a proposal because I knew if it's under if it's over a certain dollar amount you have to advertise for bid anyway and we want advertis yeah but you have to advertise for an architect you have to advertise for an architect correct um but if you're under that threshold you can
you can just hire them direct it so it really kind of depend on the size of the project here so I wanted to kind of get a feel I know Ben mentioned that you'd be around that $400,000 Mark and I believe the project
I did for I was right around 40,000 on the Northland M rescue mission project um but that one had a lot of other complications with it you know removing paint um do there there were some other complications we had to work with there
um we had Davis bacon wage rate reporting um you guys aren't going to have Davis bacon wage rate reporting all those Federal requirements that are that'll in fact it scares away a lot of contractors because it's so much paperwork they have to do their weekly
payroll reports and and follow certain um payment processes so we not everybody likes to work in that Arena so it ends up costing more and it and the architecture fees end up being more for your guys is I'm assuming you don't
have federal funds where you have to follow Davis fake and wage rate reporting and you're just using local tax dollars um so you really just need to follow Sentry quot so I I feel if you know the project you have here probably would fall under
that but if you end up getting a few proposals from a few different Architects and you're not under that then you might have to go out and advertise so that's kind of and every architect Works differently but most of them they're going to have the same rate structure and I do the rate structure
based on the client okay so that's one of the reason I didn't do a fee proposal today I wasn't really sure what you guys were looking for what the size of the project was what's the full scope are you really just doing tuck pointing only and then
recalling around your existing Windows um that that still gets you really good building envelope if you I see you have you know leaking around the window we probably would like some options yeah and and I would do a full tuck pointing I wouldn't do we have done
some projects where we've just targeted and done bad areas but then you're then you have good with bad and then over time now you're just patching it so if they could just come and do all the joints that's why when we did the
mission one we did it side by side so if you could get two sides done with the fund you have get something done or or you start on the worst side that' probably be a good idea so we so we can get a and maybe the windows would we'd like probably to know what
that would cost us or if we can't do it now down the road maybe yeah starting point yeah I mean we probably I mean we probably could come up with 3 to 500,000 I'm guessing for for reps yeah
and I worked on the LaMore County courthouse and we did the windows and phases there too just because I didn't have funds available I got done in steps I think you know our biggest thing is too is we just to know what kind of condition
actual the building is in um you know we know we know it needs to work we know that but to what extent is it does it have to be you know all done okay that's what we need to do we need to start earning for
that it's kind of I'm not a mason or you know but I don't want bricks falling on people's heads either you know that's a safety concern of ours um so another thought um and I've done this before too where for a couple
thousand dollars we can just come and do analysis just say here's what I here's what you have here's some budget numbers this is how many windows what it's going to cost this is how many l feet this is what it's going to cost these are some things that need to be replaced so it's just a
concept it it's kind of an it's a quick exterior building envelope analysis and then from that then you can decide now what do I really need to hire an architect for what do I do I want to go advertise or or do we want to just do a direct hire if that makes sense maybe we
start with a lot of times I've just done that first just go in do a quick analysis what it's going to come back like I mean we know we kind of know the windows are shot the yeah the bricks we need to fix out I don't yep and then we can look at the windows say this is what
you have this are what your R values are there's a lot of new windows with different R values it increases Energy Efficiency so we did the windows then I think they told us we should get rid of our window air conditioners and
then that's leaking on water on the ding yes so I mean where do you start where do you stop million dollars into it yes and unfortunately it's a million dollars doesn't go wrong ways anymore which is really it's really sad
um so those are you know sometimes just you know spending some money to do a quick a building analysis that can so you're not redoing Something That We're Not redoing we just want to repair so we got some cracks I think on the
bricks on North North East Cor cor and um we just want to fix it before gets worse yeah and have you tapped some grants already Ben um I've had some conversations with Amy atal society and um she's you know one of those people
flying type of things um so that's a that's a big one if we can get something like that uh the Energy Efficiency stuff there there is stuff out there for the windows it's just how hard you want to go with it type of stuff um you know so yes and no not that I want to spend money but I think should maybe do an
analysis yeah just to so that's I think that's a good starting point I think we got to start somewhere so for example I did analysis over for trail County on their Courthouse they wanted to replace their front steps I went and just kind of took a look at it did an analysis
figured out what needed to be done we took that information we wrote two grants um and the grants matched each other um we were able to secure $90,000 to do that project and plus it I have I'm yeah I'm got a pre-bid at 11 o'
today over there um with some Mason re restoration contractors I think we got three of them on our plan holders list right now I think I would like to see us do an analysis and come back with that and we can talk that over and maybe some budget numbers that we can kind of go
from one of the other nice things about Richard about that analysis is once you have that analysis then Ben's going to be able to use that when grants come up so sometimes you may not be able to finish those projects in the order you want to but you might be able to finish
something ahead of time and that's exactly what we did last time we did this project with the toilet room renovation we came in did analysis of what needed to be done how much it was going to cost since we were doing accessibility we were able to get that
cdbg grant for accessibility again there we had cdbg funds so it limited our pool of who's going to bid the project because of all the paperwork but um I think you were on the board last time you know we end up paying for about a third of that project with Grant funds
so you actually were able to do all the toilet rooms all at one time where previously we're thinking of just doing one at a time as funds became available um once we were able to secure that Grant with Lake aacy we were able to do them all at one time so sometimes just
having a road map of how how to do your improvements over time helps um because grants come out you know we see boiler replacement grants come out we you know we see light fixture replacement we see um Windows energy efficiencies um
historic preservation dollars you guys are unique because you're also on the national register of historic places so you get to qualify for the national register grants as well as the State Historical Society grants those two match each other so then you don't have to put any funds in so that's what trail
County was excited about when when I wrote those two grants for them they were able to get it done without putting any funds in so that is one thing I do I don't know a lot of I don't know some of the other architecture firms if they do a lot of that grant writing I do a lot
of grant writing trying to help projects get funded and sometimes I've worked on a project that just sits over here dormant for a while and grants will come up and I'll call a client and say hey there's this grant out there you guys ready to do the project sometimes they say yes
because they have the funds sometimes they don't have funds so and I love to hisor preservation I like fixing up these old buildings so if you want to do that I I could definitely just do a uh I could do
a building analysis for you guys um I'm okay that the only thing I just thought of we did ask the F to come next mon too we do we want to wait to hear from them guys or should we just move forward with her and have her new
analysis or what do you guys I will say being on board previously she did a good job for us last night so it was challenging I mean there's a few things oh marble you got marble off the wall and hope it doesn't fall apart you had a great contract you had great
contractors out here that did really good work um it was tough did the best they could it was tough to get electrical through it was tough to get plumbing through um these old buildings are tough they're tough but if you want to um I would come over
and do building analysis for you guys for $3,500 and then from that information then you can decide if you want to go out for RFQ or if you want to you know I've worked with f before too they're great architect you're not going to go wrong with them either
so what do you guys think I'm okay with I'd make a motion to we'll hire you for $3,500 to do analysis y we we'll get that done before your next board meeting I'll second thought motion by strand second by
Peri post well thank you I'm excited it's it's close by too and Grant lives in Grant lives in Hatton too so I was excited to find an architectural intern that was within distance
so okay well thank you thank you I'll set up a time to we'll come over and start doing analysis this month and Y it may include more things than you want but we'll at least take a look at the masonry the windows The Rook
be B we want I think that's what we need would you have that ready for February would that probably be a March meeting or no I'll try to have it ready for February I think our February meeting is the what theth yep sounds good um what I'll probably do is try to meet would Ben be my contact
or who I'll just visit with Ben we'll come over here um this done and then Ben writes grants too so then we can take a look at what might be coming upe yeah like I said there's there are some great grants coming out there with the
historic properties in July so who else is who else is the portfolio of the buildings include Chris probably y all right I'll uh I'll send you Chris email well thank you yeah thank you you you
have a good day I walk you all right park board meeting wej we motion to adjourn I'll second it motion by strand second by Chris to adjourn the meeting all in favor all
meeting in Jour so from now on are we going to have the park board meetings not in the commission meeting they're going to be afterwards that's essentially it doesn't matter to me either way I guess you guys can sit and you just can't vote I think we should keep them a certain time
because that's not fair to the parkboard members to what's going to work best for you mornings it's open right now fine you're retired now he's retired now so but he's working hard no though but I mean if we don't have a certain time not
be to the MERS I just I just are they done a 10 or I mean no happen at at 8:00 or 8:15 like we started would be fine I just wanted that in case something comes up that we don't to wait for next meeting that we get done so that's I think it'd be good though usually they
don't take that long right so I mean if if the rest of board members or commission are is good to have it in during our meeting yeah keep them going like that that that's fine with me I think that works yeah plus it also helps or whatever if you know what's going on out there too
right have an 815 is that would you guys start out if you want to do open your meting up and then have 8:30 or whatever y she be here by :30 yeah and did we ever F El as the parkboard do that
us did we really get a definite answer on that I didn't but it's going to be within Theiss record just record I think you did mention that too that if we have one offsite that we need a secretary there so I as if Jenna would show up and do
that for us so I think we're proud keep it recorded I guess I'll call still County Park board meeting to order January 7th 9:20 I think we're going to do the we'll do the agenda in reverse order I think
first thing is we're probably have to reorganize as board members now so is there nominations for chairman any nominations for chairman you want me to nomination no whoever I'll nominate Matt
roller as chairman is there any other nominations any other I'll second that admin a motion from mat roller has there been a second any other discussion all in favor say I I oppos
same sign motion carried all right and I would nominate Ed felstead as a vice president second or large or whatever okay we have a nomination for Ed vice president is there any other
nominations is there a second I'll second any other discussion hearing none all in favor say I same sign motion period secretary will be Jen I suppose
we have to vote on her is she just automatic just automatic okay um let's uh we need a motion to have five board members okay is there a motion to vote that we have five board members three Commissioners
and two at large I'll I'll make that motion I can I'll second it any other discussion on it not all in favor say I same sign motion
cared Matt do you want to talk to Paul about it I did I talked Paul about it and he said if Ed doesn't want it he would take it over but if Ed wants it he said he Paul's just like he said I'm not going to be able to make these and I said I was fine have an ed on there and
agreed to SC it for a while did you agree I figured he would for a while anyway he's retired now he needs something to do so retired or just tired both both so
I kind of hope all that he wasn't he was want to make sure he gets the message y y so I guess we got the board members taken care of um we'll move on to the storm shelters inove the minutes oh yeah the minutes
anybody have a chance to read the minutes last meeting I'll make a motion to approve the minutes is there a second second is there any discussion on it not all in favor say I to approve the
minutes I same sign motion carries the storm shelters in the roof Jake got three bids and he went back he went to Finley and they come in about $1500 more than the other two but
he said since they're local he went through them and we've got all the materialss been paid for and ordered they said it' probably be a couple weeks before it shows up but it went we went through F Lumber got all that stuff now it's just to find somebody to do it I've
got Charlie shet give us a vid we've been looking for somebody else and it's like Richard said it's just impossible to find somebody he talked to brendam boys and they they w't guarantee they'd get it done or anything so when when would shre when he said it would
probably be when I talked to that was just before Christmas he said it' be at least a month that he can get to it CU they're doing some big project up north heast said so I probably rather wait for the weather to warm up get a little nicer before because he's going to tear the old shingles off bit was tearing the
old shingles off and putting this on so and he he repairing some spots too wa was that in on well that was that was in on he when they get the they'll they'll figure out if there's any bad spots any rot spots that that you know the roof has to get changed on or whatever so how
many storm shelters are are we going to do in what what it's not storm shelters it's just the mother Lord shelter yeah so what we it was two or three had those ordered also y that materials all in included on that too so so we just putting 10 on the rof or we
putting all new wood up or complete or just couple them there I think they're going to put the pillars up it was like 3500 bucks to do the complete one I think CU what quotes were on it grab that qu yeah and that's going to be another thing to find somebody to do them too
does are they interested in them what's that are they interested in doing them I don't know they would they maybe would be I think we should rece the want qu it to us right [Music] just sheet metal on the on thought there was one that had to be completely redone
but maybe maybe I think he was removing one totally because it was sink so like that thought off completely slab there
yeah I think so just leave the slab there is what I think you was talking about maybe down the road I can build it back up if he wants to any posts in there I think most I think most of the posts are pretty good it's just the top Parts I need to get know the afters and
Tin put back on it and stuff a lot of them the RS are all right too it's just the CH the even on that West Side that big one that's that's a nice size one it's just the chandel are shot off and Rod Wood and I think the association is
taking care of that one though cuz Wayne talked to that one guy from The Gaming fish shelter that's kind of in charge of the land all that par there and he told me that they could go ahead and do that storm shelter and put another one up if they regular shelter
up and put another one if they wanted to oh so good I think the association was doing the way side over there sh's going to look at the shelters too or just the store for the roofs he wasn't going to do the shelters right
sh was just doing the rug but Richard said maybe we should doct have him give us rep for doing the shelfish too to get him done that'd be pretty that'd be pretty easy for them guys you think espe there [Music]
store and know is there any other discussion on that stuff be nice to see those done finally yeah the roof is going to be fun too but we were looking at it I thought there was more it is pretty Square on that backside everything and it's not so many OBS so shouldn't be too bad to get it
all sealed up around there and everything else are they going to Tin the back HS with to them it all matches it was going to be a whole thing but we hav't never enclosed that backp over the freezers yet there's a roof on it yeah there's a roof yeah there's a
roof L yeah I think that was going that's included yeah all I believe he went with grade right yeah he kind of he just came up and asked me and I was like yeah he called me on it too and I said I don't know what other color would you
use yeah it's kind of a light gray I think it's not a dark dark what said quite similar to mine that should be getting Tak care I'll get hold of Charlie then call because I was going to wait to see if anybody body found anybody else to do
any of this and it's just impossible to find somebody to do work well while we're talking about that store we need to get the bathroom en closures and that wind's bathroom there's two stools that are we need to do that y that need to
be where is that the bathroom I thought that was in the store yeah yeah only one person can go in I mean essentially I always lock the door on the only one but there's two back toilets okay I mean it's G be pretty
tight in there but it's better than couple years ago and then somebody else brought it up to me again I thought why would we ever yeah of course I mean that should be done that's that should have been done when they that should have been red that should have been done when they redid the bathrooms you so
some put on there do that you can get him here well we should reach out I'll reach out I'll ask him if he is we need we need to find some talking Curtis n oh okay yeah I can give Curtis call too you like can go I should
be that hard to put a petition up in there think put in there okay uh what else next would be our pickle ball court situ or activity centers not a p Court activities
Court what's our discussion on that what we need to find something for you know think activities Court fa I have no say yeah they've got I don't know what they've got for funding now but they are
going to they are waiting to put in for a grant for Park and Recreation that has to be done by the 13th or 15th February I don't know if they've got it written yet or not they had somebody that was going to
be writing that as right now the end of January I'm supposed to go present in Fr of sord like sord very very interested in doing anything a lot really okay they chose you to present
yeah they that was recorded too wow that was madad way to go you made the share of mat he could hear you your yeah oh I'm playing that on repeat later
wor anybody any discussion have you had I know the only one that's really been calling is and I told I told the association I said you got to get people to start calling that you know favor this and figure out you know and they said they didn't want to bug the commissioner they said you guys should have people calling every commission
they said no we're not going to make people sit and call all you guys which I think they should have done but they didn't want to go that route so and what was the name of that guy you called again Wayne who that for the gaming fish on the on the land out there
not Brian Bill hos huh Bill hos nope he be in charge of it no that's not I talk no there's another one that I talk Brian it is Brian yeah he said why not we he's one down here didn't sound like
the the land swap is a a goal right now yet there still well all the fras are in that's I haven't talked to Bill since but 100,000 short I know that but
they're still working to figure it out so in my day we were told that it's not probably none of that even fish land is going to be available for doing anything on it for a while I
would until they get swap field that's yeah could be weeks be two years two weeks it's not going to be two be two weeks that's going to be a couple
deal that's what I figured couple years so what do we want to do for find a place to put the pickle the activities Court then Association really is not able to buy land get grant money to buy
land that's a it's Association so it's every year we get $20 membership there so there's members everywhere so in order to do that you'd almost have to get all them in agreeance with and I know how that would ever work and I believe you get grant money if it's on County correct they're not a
503c so they can't apply for just gotta go through part board some of those grants don't give to 501 c3s anymore they don't give to them well some of them don't [Music] do anybody got any feelings on it what
I don't think there's going to be a parking issue anymore I did talk to Shane about liability on it and he said that it's probably not even he said probably wouldn't even raise our liability anything because he said it's it's a government entity and he said there nobody's ever sued one of them he
said it's almost impossible if something happens it's going to be an accient for you know somebody's going to roll an ankle or something like that so he said liability issue of it is no big thing I said well we're going to own land but the association is going to build a pimple ball C he said that didn't matter
he said there's no so so the association wants us to find a spot and they're going to pay to put it in Yep they're going to all going to do the maintenance they are they said if we want to write a contract up when we put it under that they are in charge of Maintenance
forever that's fine they're they're all in agreement with that they have no problem doing that they're going to gravel the whole parking lot keep that all up keep the weeds out we're going actually they'll probably help us L won't have to mle that area over there anymore or part of it anyway well that's another thing we need to think about down the road is
when you move our lease Lots the 40 lease slots so that's a big dollar amount we're not going to have I know I'm getting off subject but we're got to find out how we're going to payer all that mulling as well right or if we're not going to have to mole right but I I got off the subject there a
little no but I I agree with you I mean it's going to be something I've thought about that too we're done the road of these lease Lots disappearing it's going to be interesting to see what happens might not have to have a parkboard you know I don't know well it's going to be more difficult if anything because we're going to have less money to work with
right you all we got still our repairs at the store yeah that's a never ending pot we would to take off no I yeah we'll have to find more grant money or more gaming money or something
I suppose to keep it going but yeah I everyone wondering know what's going to happen there too because it's about 40 right now it's 40 Lots at $850 you know it's $34,000 a year yeah any when I talking the first time that the East Side wasn't included in
that deal but now it iscl that so that whole Big E slot is going to be do that goes with it I really don't want to L that which parts East Side you know where like I put my trailer and all that that area I
she not told that they not keeping it that's not in the land that's not you to keep that we don't you don't who did you talk to on now Brian I'll give you the number later bill has been the guy in charge the whole time I think Bill is from the
I think he's on the FED side no oh Bri I he's he's like the boss I think Bill's oh maybe bill I don't know who the box is but Brian Brian's the one that called me on it with they want to do that pickle ball I called out he's the one that got hold
of me and said that they didn't want it built over there right now because of the lands there was BR there was a Frederick's that we used to deal with on to was yeah that's he's a he's the he's like the he's the he's B just water he's on the B he's
on Fisheries Fisheries much there anym so I mean the people I've talked to they really nobody really wants it on that east side of the the store over there with all them buildings and stuff where everybody's building their sheds people I've talked to are not they
said they want to be more by the lake so they can see the lake and everything else which I I can see that point of it I don't know I don't know where else we can set one up for him any ideas I know that one lot to the east
over there but that one is where Tom's got his septic system and stuff and I don't think gu really want to build over top that too badly you know what happen in the year you something going wrong and you're you have to tear it all up and that'd be a disaster yeah there's few locks are
probably available but and other locks that he may know that are really big they're I think 38 to 40,000 is what he's asking for them things so I really don't know what feelings or
what I myself I don't like I don't want I'll give that spot out of myself but um I think there's a spot we can find I mean last time you said that centralized well anywhere on Lake centralized so you got to drive to it either way
um I don't want to give that spot up at myself just for Park Board there's parking there and if you drive up there now I looked yesterday there there's more tracks there there on the road people been parking for being nice fishing and everything else oh they'll get you they'll go
around I mean I I could bring my semi down there and drive it up and turn it around I mean I went to the one association meeting I was one of the subjects brought up that you know to get people to get turned around and Par she I think it was Colleen brought up she said you ever watch people I said most of the people that I can't back it up
there shouldn't be probably trying to get their boat in the lake anyway because they have no that backing a boat up or whatever but there's is plenty of room when you look at there where the flags were and everything else there's more than sufficient left room and a few times during the summer
like Fourth of July that's get sparking up it's mainly the other people from the other camground not from Jake's camground that're up in there and they're not supposed to be parking there overnight all the time anyway but that was something that got approved years ago that they could park for the
weekend so I think we got to make some kind of decision of what I mean we've talked about trying to find them a spot we haven't been able to find them a spot besides this one for 3 months now I understand that but they're
dumping it on us it's not really our they're what they're dumping it on us it's not really the park board's problem and in the long range you think of it that way um I'm for the project what what if the par what if I have brought it up didn't want to do this
activi cour would you been fine with it then that I'd have brought it up and put it there I'm still fine with the project I don't like the location I just don't want to give that location up I'm sorry I think they were planning on putting it by there
they that same thing so so do we have to decide on bot today or don't we are we gonna decide on okay let's help these guys out do all their paperwork for them they've got they the paperwork's all
done but I'm saying we'll be the guys that'll be the owners are we going to take that on I think we need to decide that today whether we find a spot today proba it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if we find a spot it does matter I think what we need to decide us as a
board are we going to take and allow it to go on some of our property or buy a piece of property either one we need to decide that right now and move forward and I have no problems with you know owning it and having them but if they're going to pay for everything and not cost County a dime that's going to be yeah as
long as I'm okay with that I'm I'm good with the project I'm not against the project at all just the location where they want to put it I don't want it there myself I think there that's room for us to expand if we ever want to or what are we going to ever expand
on we're going to be losing our funds The Way It Is We're Going hardly be able to keep the store maybe we want to put more campers in there so we can help the store guy I I don't know I don't think Jake wants more Camp Jake's not going to be there forever oh he's going to be there for a while yeah I'm just saying
that that's yeah no I I'm thinking more more along land Lea they can at least from you leave I don't know I don't know if they leave can do anything it's that East Side I they told us the East Side wasn't going to be part of
that that's what I was told the first time too but he said no they put it back in that's put it back in I don't even know I'll say it I can tell I don't know if they did evaluation on it yeah he said there everything did even the concrete
underneath our I asked them to do the praan okay but they thee appraiser told me they didn't no so I think there's a lot of hearsay that we don't know you're right you're absolutely
right you well yeah I don't know if you'd want to put it over there where Wayne parks is camper anyway do you want to pickle ball court there activties Court no they you plant a trees there that's got to be a windy one or over there most of the time that's the worst part that that corner over there gets
the wind Blast from the Northwest all the time well so are we going to move forward and say okay we're going to help you with the project we've done that for three months said we're going to help for that Richard already said that we're going to help him with it that's been put in the minutes for three months we
discussed that already haven't been able to find a different location I think we looked back we started this in October I know you're kind of what's what's your feeling on it to I mean I've talked there's nine members on the association board six of them are for
going where it's at two of them are on the fence the one said that she asked her kids and the kids thought it would be great they were telling what it was going to be H she said they really didn't know one is dead said against it totally but not only
just negative from other people too on where it's going but I'm just throw it out there that that's what I've heard I've heard both not just the one but a both one yeah and it's probably been about even on the made
so they still like the location well they're F pick B they're fine whatever but that's the location this location and what's the reason you just think the parking or what parking and
then some of the ones over there that park there over time when they come down for weekend well I know but our camp gr now we get my contract say they're going to us two parking passes anybody else that comes or out it's going to cost we have to buy a parking pass for that
person so that's the way that is we're letting them Park free there and I don't know if that's so right either because they kind of take advantage of it I hope that everybody comes down every weekend and spends money here I don't want to slop stop that from anything bring as many people as you can Ste I think it's I think we put it where it's where we're
talking on our stuff there I think that's going to bring more people in too because there's going to be people coming so they can see the lake and everything else or over that other side over there it's more I don't think there's going to be the people come at like it will be where they can see the lake and be right by the lake and the store and
everything my opinion on it we going to have perfect location what's that where they were going to have it the first time perfect I mean that would have been fine really yeah I know perfect of all world yeah fish kind of threw mon on
so I don't know if we should vote on something or what we should do and just I mean in five years from now if it's not working out sorry guys your pick ball Court's gone we'll have to do it for something else I mean what that's all we can do put that in the thing that says if
it's not working out or whatever then it's going to be well it's going to work out fine you can't tear that out there it's couple two 300,000 project it's going to be fine there's the only Pro the only problem I
have is the location and that's that's the only thing I'm bucking on yeah I haven't heard anybody say a couple people have said that they wish they run it to all their members rather than just the nine members deciding but that's why you got a board
that's why that's why you got a board but that's not that's not true don't talk to other people on the way that's the reason they didn't know how many people were actually for I'm just telling you what I know who you are and I know who it's coming from guarantee you but when you got start talking to
people okay well so it's a$2 $300 project or two two or $300,000 project and nine people are deciding when a board usually spends 5,000 10,000 that's a huge dollar amount also the county wouldn't spend 4 million none of money
huh none of us their money right it's still a project that they're 100% the project was brought up at the meeting and everybody was for it so that one person was against and it's on a website look at that too and there's not many people been responding ready to have looked at it because I'm not going to go
with that I agree with you on the location personally I'd rather have it down at the Pavilion side personally but right now I don't know why that's going to be available if ever it might not ever be right no that's our problem because I like it down there because
it's last when cuz I can guarantee you right now that whole North side's going to have to be or the whole West side's going to have to be shut down there'll be no bre get should have down I went through this all the pck people I talking to them and they said the wind will affect at Big Time well you know
what the wind does at Golden Lake in the summertime blows out of the West correct get a faster that goes over the water more I know it's going to I know it is they don't think it will I know it's going to affect that ball so would I rather have the ins side I personally
would I personally do one thing other side like would be would the only thing is now we need bathrooms yeah need bathroom we need some electricity over because get another b b security
lights that's all you need B bathroom you only need one you don't need something you don't need water be that you just need most of and the people the mothers that I talk to are worried about their little kids running across running over there from from the camp going through
the across that road all the time or up anyway Ro but it's not as bad as the other one it's not yeah it's there's some that go across or know it but it's going to be worse than you had a port over their
basketball we hammered on the SN is somebody going to make a motion yes or no or do whatever let's move on here take ARG you want me to throw motion out there or what do you want you want are you first motion let's prove is
that you guys will accept that we find a spot and that we will let him build on if we find a property and own the property that we'll let him build on it is that the first one you want approved well I'm that's I'm not you ask
everybody board now I I think that's first one I think that's first one we should Happ proove that spot that that we will own the spot and they that they can build it on it and that they have to maintain it and keep and do everything that way I'll
make that motion is there a second I'll second is there any more discussion on that do you want to have a contract yes I think we will have to we'll have to have a contract to have signed by us and by
them we'll own the land and we'll let we'll let them guys we'll let them build on whatever we find or whatever we own they have to maintain it they have to Dev all the building and find the money and do all that for it any more
discussion all in favor say I I oppose same sign okay that means we'll find a spot for them to build the same we have a spot possibly we want to look a few more options till next month
and decide if we can find anything for them yeah we're going to need at least that much time okay that gives them that we're behind the project that gives them all they need to do and I'll tell them if they maybe they can talk to Randy maybe
too but they they read that one corner up there kind of bad spot we looking it's going to be windy there wherever the sights can be there have certain things Tak let because I mean even on that East Side I know the wind
that comes up through there at my place there through there too it's just you slow down it would be easier if buy a bathroom already so we have to try to get a all bathroom it's going but it is what it is is so at least I got know we
are going to find that they keep looking for money and find the project so all right any other discussions talk to few more people yeah pretty May it's really
Chey yeah we get this we'll start in the next project do that yeah Jake Jake is gonna open on weekends he's be open Friday and Saturdays as as long as he can find work the worst part is you know they got to
be to do anything and they can't he needs more a bartender son that can deliver drinks 18y olds can't even drinks how's everything in the store is he said any improvements that he's goingon to have to do in 25 that we should know about dollarwise nothing
nothing talked about the deck last year you exct he wants to do but we we got a little eyed project we like to plan but we want to get this other thing taken care of first and we'll discuss something like that um the generator got hooked up so that is up and running he
said he actually heard it running the other day and he thought oh what the he I lose electricity but it starts every so often just the I think once a week they start it starts and that's all hooked up in in place though so so game
that was all paid for that was all I know you might got a bill from R I think they're the ones I finally got out there to hook it up but seen anything yet I know I might have been included so but maybe Jake just paid they were in there pretty late so maybe it yeah bet it'll come January
soon I know there's a few things that Jake just pays for all his pocket too sometimes but other than that things have been going pretty good out there I think he said he had a pretty good year thought there was Life Flight out there did his wife and I were at the house and we could hear this helicopter like what
in the world's going on helicopter and airplane landed on the lake and come up H somebody just come Forks come in landan on the lake come hamburger just listening
The Pavilion side and and I know you guys know probably more than I do I'm just trying to wrap my head around that's all game and fish with with the building sitting on it with the playground sitting on it with the public and what's their plan
with it they're going to keep it yes they're not gonna okay so that that's access that's what I want them because that's what I saying they don't want to leave the lake they just do not want to only SL I mean I I just don't want like we've
we put a lot of work in over there I don't want to see that just get sold off either they said the only way to get rid of that would be to give it back to the county to the county has to St Public Access yeah I don't they they can't technically give it to
us correct otherwise otherwise okay thank you yeah because that Pavilion actually is G fishes but they let us build and use it and everything else that's not their building it's the land
property so that's staying their property but they still live B to separate that out and get appraisal on there to see if they could sell that to uh the association but I don't know if I'm going to reach out the Bild
today clarify some things yeah they they give Brian gave they give permission to uh finish those shelters that we started and fix the other ones no I got permission to do that now to fix those other two and then to build those two new ones that's going to build
Association building that's I don't know why they would not want them alter no they're never going to do away with that line they want they wanted for accessibility through so what about the stuff on the west side
of the Pavilion where all the trees are going to stay the or the game Fish that's going to stay ging fish yeah it's just the lots that cabin sit on what they don't want correct y so that's something we're going to have to think about down the road too when these
lease Lots disappear what are it's going to be a huge loss to our budget yeah it's going to be something enough to put slot agreement stuff on next that's okay I want to keep it same or whatever but
we'll discuss that next meeting there been long time since to raise that probably could raise it 50 bucks a month but you know I know what'll happen then my phone will ring off the hook these people well we didn't budget for that like $50 okay oh yeah yeah so I think
when we sent that out too there was a couple stragglers that were out there we need to tighten there's yeah I mean we were still calling them halfway through summer yeah that shouldn't well even in November I think that there should be a certain date that certain date of not and
they're yeah a penalized we can put pad loocks on their door and lock them out or like it's you know it's does the game of fish have a timeline or they're kind of fishing it all around I think the lease is up in 2032 or three get before
them if it can they if it can be even possible they don't even know if it's possible right and they don't want to disturb the lake that much but they would like to see the current landowner or the current lease holders own the land they're on and it's going to be a lot easier for
these lease owners if the land does get chained out and then get sold because then they go to their bank and say I'm going to own it now the banks say okay I'll own your money for it now but being a leas lot these Banks won't loan them money to do anything on these spots so that should
help a little bit but it's going to be how much the lots are going to be you know if they're $50,000 going be a few people that are going to say no I don't want to own that so bu 32 or 33 better be prepared to yeah I mean if it's going to happen
I'm guessing it's going to happen before that before that okay if it's going to be able to happen Okay so it was about $100,000 difference on the land swap so they're looking for something to equal that out or what I know you talked to me about that stuff
that we Farm out there but he's dealt he's dealt with Apartments because he's got apartment buildings and everything else and dealt with people he said he was a little bit lary about having to go to people and ask you know you want to buy this lot and this and that so he was not too Happ on it but I can talk to
him again and see it's not the most ideal situation no no I know it's not and it's more the federal than it is local G fish isn't it that's all that wants to get out of it well the game of fish do as well they do they don't want
they don't want to own these spots they want the feds are making it they don't want it either you can tell they don't want it they haven't wanted it for years no well you they talked to us five six years ago and they they were trying hard then to get
out of it and and then it was kind of down down low for a couple two three years and then we met with them that day it's and maybe it's going to be big and then all of a sudden might go away yeah I I don't know you do have a new Department
of interior secretary come up here in a couple weeks that might have might change things might [Music] change it would be awesome if they could own their own property though I think just number at least at least 9 90
to 95% that I heard were very reasonable yeah but he's not going to sell no I mean his land he should be able to put some kind of Mark up on it I'm G say there could be
double who knows you can't say no don't no sou I've got 280 I got 280 acres in CRP that i' loved it but I'll lose my payments on it but I don't know if I want to G and Fish on and all that stuff right by my house either something
you're not going to live there alone I know I'll be moving out of there but yeah maybe I'll name it after you yeah oh yeah thanks well we'll have to do some looking around and see if there's other options but I think we we're kind of limited on our options
and they'll be glad to know that we're at leas in a that we voted that they can whatever we find for them they can build on our property and they can keep looking for money so anybody else
got Mo Jour I'm Mo Jour there a second second any more discussion no discussion on it all in favor say I thanks guys than you you got something
for me to sign I have oh yeah why are they keep an 80 ft away that's what I don't understand