Yeah, he did. Good morning. It's 8:15 Steel County Commission meeting. It's February 3rd, 2026. Any additions to the agenda? No, no additions. Okay.
Um, we'll turn over to the park board. Ed. >> Okay. Meeting called to order and >> anybody approve the minutes? I'll make a motion. Second it. I'll >> second it.
>> Old business. lake leases. >> Probably got to ask though if there's any approval or any agenda >> addition to the agenda >> any addition to the agenda or >> I might add a couple. We're going to talk about the waste management that beer now and
probably some of the lights. I don't know if we should pay electricity on all these lights out now like we have in green issues approval. >> Keep going. Second should ask for
>> all in favor I. All against >> motion carried. Old business lake leases. Uh so we went to the meeting last week and um they uh I'd say probably 99% of
the people were all for the uh game and fish moving selling lots to or selling the land to the Lords. And um everybody there was only one person that came to me and was kind of upset about it. They thought they had a 100-year
lease, but there's no 100-year leases. Um that that's the problem with perpetual leases. People think it's going to go on forever and it's and I there never was a 100-year lease. I mean all they went by is hearsay or Yeah.
>> So um it sounds like everything is done. Uh it was approved by the attorney general. Uh they only had to go now to the governor to sign which they thought would be easy deal. So it could be done in a couple months or faster I'm guessing. >> Yeah. cuz I brought that up. Well, we'll
talk about that. It's the lease part of it. I mentioned to him I said, "So, do we send leases out now cuz our lease payments are supposed to be done by the 1st of June?" And that Bill Hos, the North Dakota Game Fish guy, looked when he says, "No, don't send him out." Because he said, "We're going to have
this thing all done in by the 1 of June," he said. That's where we're sitting now. >> I can't I kind of go back and forth on that sending out the leases. Yeah, I know. >> I I saw that you had wrote in there
that, you know, we're rateed 140 bucks a month or 141 a month or so. I mean, >> we still got expenses out there, >> right? >> But I think too that Casey Casey should probably come in here too to tell about the taxes because if you don't do it
before April, you're going to miss all of next year's taxes because then we won't get on tax roll until 27 paying in 28. if >> if what doesn't happen, >> if he doesn't get them on till April, because after April, you can't make any
changes to your taxes. >> But if the deal doesn't isn't done before that, there's not much we can do about it, is there? >> I'm not sure. And I know him and Ben were kind of discussing it because Ben was the tax director years ago. So,
I'm just worried that if you don't do if you don't add them or somehow abate them or whatever the return is that you're not going to get paid for those eight. >> You'll be missing all those taxes >> payments.
>> That'd be that'd be huge. Yeah, it would be. And I know Casey did some of the to see if it'd be cheaper or expensive land if they're on the tax roll and they're actually like a $100 cheaper than what their rent currently is
depending on what the value of the land is. But I think it'd be good to have se on this too so we can get things on the tax roll so you're not out two years of taxes. Especially for because there might be quite a few of them that might
just buy that stuff when this gets approved by the first of June. They might >> I'm guess a lot of them >> just hold their money on that somehow if we can get that on there. So if they this is going to be all that land tax is what's going to be on besides the building tax >> just their building right now.
>> Yeah. But then if they buy it, they're gonna be the one of tax on it on top. >> And I suppose it will all go to the person that's buying it all. And then he'll have to sell it, make a deed to sell it to the person that is renting it right now.
It could get a little messy. >> They have to have all survey too, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. I know after last week's meeting on Thursday, there's been a few people that call asking for deeds and asking for like their lot size and
>> I'm sure a lot are really curious how big they are. >> Oh, and so we kind of been like, well, you're going to have to contact your land surveyor because and it sounds like all the pins are in there. It's just >> it was one person that owned it, so they didn't really >> go by it. >> I'm guessing the game and fish might
have that information. They don't. So, I don't know what happened to it cuz we looked through some files and didn't find like how they split them off and they all have parcels so they don't have to have it get parcels. It's just the
size is >> sound like Louis going to sell to stocking between5 and $6. He said $6 I hear. I know you people are just hearing $5, he said. So, but it's it's going to
end up being in that anywhere from probably 30 to 40,000 a lot when we figured out cuz I think most of the lots are 750 square ft or so 150 by 50 or so.
>> There's quite a few in 50. >> Is there 50 of them >> that side He thinks she had all >> he's hoping for more
>> or less. >> The thing is that on Anna it said shows extending into the lake some too each lot. >> So I don't know if that's >> you know the game fish owns into the lake on the south side. >> Yeah >> wings are
>> so our contract the game fish is up with 2032. with them doing this then that's just a null and void or what >> I would guess. But >> how does that work Charlie that since we have this with the game and fish we can just let them null and voided if this all takes first by the first of June or
what? Yeah, I mean the I guess the leases will just the main thing is that it's it's what they're doing is kind of contrary to terms of the leases because the lease our general lease with game and fish
which allows us to sub lease says that any issues with the general lease won't have an effect on the sub lease agreements. So, I guess they're just kind of unilaterally cancelling leases and
saying they're going to sell, which could we argue about that? Possibly, but didn't really want to go there. But not is that that guy that night said on the leases are good through 2033.
Right after 2033, if something doesn't get done, the feds are going to tell everybody to remove everything they got out there and it's going to get turned back and then just basically name the fish land again. Nobody's >> going to, you know, this is usually the best way. >> It's the best way to do it. So,
>> you know, tax that I don't know if there's any exceptions that Casey can use to get them on the >> Well, I guess once it's sold to the Lord's, it'll go on the tax base. >> So, it's fast. I mean, we don't have to wait. >> Yeah. Louis split up because they'll be
on the tax base. >> Louis will have all the land. He'll have pre taxes on until he sells that block to somebody that he's going to be liable for the taxes on that land. >> That building. It's going to be a hefty.
>> He would only I don't know how they're going to split up the land. He would So, technically, he's going to pay on the land and the current owner of the or the current suber pays on the >> buildings. Is that a buildings? >> Yeah, he'll have to write up some kind
of lease though on that until until there's a lease. I mean, he'll pay on everything. >> I don't know >> because right now the people that have buildings out there, they're getting a tax statement for that building.
But >> he gets some he get tax land. >> Yeah. Until it's all >> if it gets done by the 1 of June. Louis get the tax bill for that for the land party doesn't for sure.
>> Well, and he can write that into his agreements that they that they have. >> That's up to them. And I don't know too if Casey said we might just do like a set price for this year just because it's going to happen fast >> and then go back and like kind of
fine-tune it the year after just >> take an average of the >> this first year's four four parcels. >> So I mean these until it get broke out you can't really >> technically it already is broke out because everybody has their own parcel out there but it's
>> it is but it's being sold as four parcels only. >> Wow. But he's going to then sell them too. >> Yeah. So, but that is unlike >> So then they'd all need auditors lot. >> Who's going to be responsible for the survey? Louis
was just >> anything else on old business. >> When is our Maybe we should just hold off with sending that out a month until we know a little more. Maybe we'll get >> I think that's a good idea. We have enough time to wait >> because we don't they're not due till
June 1st. Right. Right. >> Correct. looks well. I'd say we wait a month and look see what happens starting >> probably. >> Yes. >> The contractor waste management is that can we cancel that at any time? >> You got that?
>> I Well, they don't get pick up until like May. >> May. >> We're paying like 3,700 bucks a month. It's for It's 1,600 bucks a month for six months. It's a year. >> We also paid for the
>> store. It's $40 a month at least. >> Plus the lights like $600, but that's some of the lights are out there and then right by the store. >> There's probably living on lease lots
right now. Is there What's that? Is there anybody living on lease lots right now? Yeah, there's a few people out there who >> are they living over there out there. >> She's
contact with Jessica about some stuff out there >> was land or deeds. >> Who's that? >> The buy. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I was just thinking if we could cancel that garbage. No. Yeah, because I think
we should because I mean it's it's not our responsibilities anymore. >> We won't be once it's once this thing approves anyway. Um that's going to get a few of them upset too. They didn't realize how much we're spending on that every year. And then there's all the
security lights that we've been paying for along all them lease lines, too. And I don't know how low flick that out, but >> they'll shut them off and build some pay for it. Those are split out like that's >> $600 a month. >> How much?
>> 600. But that's all the lights on it. >> So depending on which lights and I have it all broke down here, but >> there's quite a few on each side. >> We got we got 1,600 in between 600 a month in lights. That's 2,200 bucks a
month that we paid for out there at >> Oh, actually there is more too. They have it. This one's 1300. So depending on what lights that you're going to get rid of say >> month >> stadium lights >> and some of those are like playground
>> I suppose some of them are like the lights at the pavilion that are on too over and lake the lake stores I have. So if we cancel that garbage can for the store, too, and see if Brockers go with that spot because
they're coming from Granite Works, >> right? >> Will weird? >> I know they don't mind, but I don't think we're allowed to dump the store, but maybe >> I was just wondering if they would
charge us. I'm sure >> there's not enough out there. Jenna, does come due to the lake storm? >> Yeah. No, the lake. >> Jake pays cuz we also empty a garbage on
the like a dumpster too on the bill. >> Is there a dumpster at the north end? >> Maybe there is. >> Oh, there's a dumpster at the North Lake. >> Oh, I bet that's the dumpster. >> Dumpster at the North Lake. Yeah. >> Do the North Lake. She doesn't do Jake. get much out there during the winter
time though. >> Ice fisherman. >> Oh, I suppose. >> Well, that's why I said lately probably not much out there. >> Remember dumpster? >> Yeah, I don't remember seeing >> I don't think the north is gone. Is there
>> garbage? >> I don't know what comes through. Does Jac >> Why don't you check in with >> I'll check >> It's hard to get somebody on the phone.
>> But >> yeah, because there's a lot of garbage cans blowing around too that waste match have to come pick up though. But yeah, been kind of tough on him this way. And you said Jake pays for his own dumpster.
If it is either way, they dump that one by the store. >> Okay. >> Oh, double check. >> Well, I think they have one in the showing area, don't they? >> They were there so bad.
No. There's a there's a tote. There's two totes there, but so that'll have to be figured out too. >> You got new business. >> New business. Approve the 2026 leases
amount. >> I was hold of that too, I think. Yeah. >> Table that. I think I'll table that. >> Any other new business? >> We'll probably have to figure something out for
sit down with the commissioners one day and figure out something since we're be losing $34,000 out during the leases and stuff. >> We're just going to go reassess your cabin. Don't worry about that. >> Don't worry about that. I already did.
That's what they said. >> And like I said too, if they get on tax right away, >> you shouldn't be using hardly anything. >> Sure. We lose a year. Yeah. We'll lose a year. >> Yeah. Could use a lose that one year,
but >> Well, we're already lose 30ome,000 this year. >> $34,000 this year. >> Yeah. >> Create your own tax district. I think it's part of Michigan rather the general fund.
>> You could mail your own >> and you be able to levy your own. >> So the would the school still get that if we >> if you levy your own? Yeah, it's wouldn't it change for the schools? exchange for what you collect from county versus.
>> So what would be the benefit of it? Park would have their own money on their own. >> People would get the park would get a check every month from the county and have their own money check on basically >> really help 3% budget issue, wouldn't it? Park have no budget
>> and they wouldn't be within 2%. >> Be like a township because we get for taxes and stuff. be like the soil district or Yeah. >> waterboard. >> Waterboard. >> What does it take to set stuff like that up?
>> You're already your political subdivision, aren't you? >> Yeah. >> Might be something we have to look at next meeting or whatever. >> Right now, we be part >> General. What do we normally get about 100,000
for the budget for then? No, I didn't want to change. So, we probably use it at all. >> No, >> our port can be like four mills, I think. >> Is it four? >> Three or four. So, I mean, four mills on
the count. >> And then if you don't use it, you keep it. >> It's also a good thing to do. >> Does that have to get put to vote by the people in or not? Or can you just Yeah, >> I don't think it does. get both of the people to do that to
make it work for sub mills up or not. I'd have to check. >> I think you can you can build it to two and a half mills without a vote and then if you want more take it to the
go up to four and bake. >> Well, probably down there with two minutes. >> Yeah. So, we're not going to nearly have the mowing and all that anymore. >> I always have mowing the grow too, >> right?
>> We still probably have the mowing part of it. Some of it >> you have. >> Yeah. Nothing will really change probably with the mowing the same. >> I did have a couple people come up after me and said, "I'll gladly mow this stuff behind us because I don't want weeds and stuff growing back there and bugs and everything else, but that'll last two,
too." So, Uh the store was underneath that new entity the possible negative. >> Why would be just stuff? >> Well, the negative would be if if we
have 50,000 here and we need to spend 100,000 at the store that year. >> Yeah. is always possible. >> They don't have to take a loan out or do something and figure it out or do some some kind of >> and you're still a government entity. So you would so qualify for grants and
things like that and >> better qualify for grants under your own separate park for especially comparison all that stuff they like to it says park for board county some of that stuff >> and the gaming fund I'm sure still
>> yeah for that >> so we have to do a little check >> yeah you could still do that >> we got a lot of checking to figure Any other new business? Anything? >> Motion. Motion to adjourn the meeting
like >> I'll second it. >> Meeting adjourned. Thank you. >> Thanks, guys. Thank you. >> Great job. >> Our new vote guys here. >> We'll go back to the county commission
meeting. It's 8:37. >> Yeah. >> Um, can we get approval for our minutes? I'll make the motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I >> mot
HR. >> So this is Banas Hum. He is going to take he's he's been hired as our new road superintendent. Many of you all probably heard him, but it' be good for him to come over and introduce himself before he before he starts since your
next meeting will be after he starts. So, well, you plan on coming in January, February, what? >> 23rd. >> 23rd and uh get rolling. So, >> perfect. >> We'll get them the new employee handbook, you know, the employee paperwork today so we can get that
filled out so you're ready to roll and come in. So, >> awesome. >> Well, thank you for having me and uh thank you for hiring me. I'm excited uh to uh get cracking, roll up the sleeves, and get to work. So,
>> good. >> Glad to have you, Matt. >> Y any questions, just give us a call. >> Absolutely. If >> you guys don't know Matt, he's worked with the DOT for 18 years. >> 15 years. >> 15 years now. Yep. Uh I've been with the
DOT for in the Fargo district for 15 years. Uh the last 10 years I've been an instructor at the DOT training academy. Um both spring and fallmies. Been on involved in a lot of committees and things like that. I helped rewrite
our uh the state the state DOT manual for work zone traffic control and uh and everything like that. Um yeah. And I I love equipment, so it's uh
I like to roll up my sleeves and get in there and get things done. Um but yeah, no, I I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me and I'm really excited to get cracking. >> That's great. Welcome. We're looking
forward to it. We'll uh that >> it's upstairs on my desk. >> That's really quick. I mean, yep. >> Thank you. >> Ma'am, >> did you pass? >> No.
>> Okay. >> Okay. Should we excuse me? Move on to the road department update. >> Everything's going good. >> Good deal.
>> All the plow trucks and graders are going good. We got a new grater. >> Yep. Uh, we got it all ready now. So, I think Bruce is out. He had some surgeries on his eyes or something. So, Thursday he's coming back. So, he can come and pick it up and bring his other one down there. So,
>> and did you uh did you switch some guys around like like we were talking? >> We're gonna here. >> So, he's here because slow down there. >> Sure. >> But yeah, we're going to get him >> more into the blade, too. Running the blade so that way he's used to it. So, when he gets down there, he'll be ready.
and he's still training on his to get his DOT vis or license and stuff. So, >> yep. >> CDL license, which I think is pretty close. Ezarus is going to sign off on them when he's ready. He's going to
drive with Ezarus and then Ezra sign off on it and then he take his test. So, >> do we get our salt? >> Yep. >> It's all mixed up and put back in the shed. So, >> good deal.
>> And I believe the shotgun hope is done, right? Do you know that? >> I know. >> I was there. It looks like it is, but I'm not sure. >> I think it is cuz we paid the bills. I'm thinking that it is. >> They were loading up their >> trailer yesterday. Look good. >> Yeah, it was nice.
>> Good. >> I know he mentioned something too about doing rain gutters on there. He said he was going to talk to you guys about that. >> I I know I talked about it, but >> Okay. I don't. And then they mentioned something. Bruce was going to go up in the attic, too, and look to see what the insulation situation was up there. I
haven't heard from Bruce that was all about, but >> why don't you find out the price for the gutters and then see what the installation looks like. Let us know. >> Yeah, he was Yeah, he said he was just going to talk to you guys about So, I don't Bruce has been kind of been dealing with it because he's down there.
So, >> okay, sounds good. Do you have anything else? They saw they everything was going good. We were out on Sunday and ran Sunday just because of all the wind. >> Well, thanks from the commission again
for helping the transition period and we really appreciate that. And we did talk to Tim that we would probably compensate him for, you know, probably about six more months or so or six months roughly just to keep him
helping train the child as well. Sounds good. Thanks. Perfect. Thank you, guys. Have a good day. >> Do you have another mic? >> Yeah. >> I won't be able to be at your meeting next month. I wanted to get this taken care of. Plus, doesn't necessarily feel
like it out there, but I think spring is actually coming. So, >> start getting ready. I always think it's helpful to have one a map of some kind in front of you in case you have questions. So, Mr. Maps that way too
if you guys want to share that one. I'm one short on that. So, what uh what I wanted to follow up on is uh this is just a little map of where your paved roads um are at as far as uh when they were last uh mil and overlaid or reconstructed. And then it's also got a chart on the bottom just indicating what
year the uh seal coat was done in that roadway. There's a couple gaps in there cuz I wasn't quite sure those little connections on the the west side of Hope exactly what year those were seal coated. I'm assuming they were seal coated at the same time that the rest of
five is. So, we can probably assume that uh that was done in 2016 as well, but I just I wasn't quite sure cuz that didn't make sense to me cuz I think we did some of that reconstruction in 2017. But they have been silated regardless. So, what my purpose is today is that last year we
silk coded um 11, 18, and 25 is what you got silk coded last year. Um when we met last year to talk about which roads to do for that, part of that conversation was centered around the idea that uh you've got uh state grant funding,
highway safety um money for um painting all of your paved roads in 2027. So, the idea that we've been talking about for the last couple years is knowing that that's been sitting out there. If we can do whatever we can to make sure that uh your roads, all your paved roads are in
good shape in advance of that because when you use that expensive epoxy epoxy paint, you know, usually you can get at least 3 years, but probably closer to 5 years out of that paint. So, you wouldn't want to come back in 2028 and do something else to your roadways to to
cover up that paint after spending after the state spent that much money on it. It's a 9010 thing. So, you only to pay 10% of that. Most of the money um comes through the state. So, reason to say that is part of what we talked about last year is that we would
seal coat those those three roads that we did last year and then this year you would consider doing eight and five. Um those were done back in 2016 and 2017 um era. So, probably getting pretty close to maybe doing a sil code again. I
know we talked about eight last year as uh getting a little rough. Um did some extensive patching on the north end up there last year too that would be good to get covered with the seal coat. So the the miles that you did last year
were around 31 miles. If you were to do eight and five this year, including those connections on the west side of five, that's about 25 miles, a little over 25 miles. Um, you know, you got your seal code for about $36,000 a mile
last year, which was about 1.1 million total, a little bit more than 1.1. So to do five and eight would be somewhere around $900,000 a million dollars. I would probably anticipate a million just to be safe on that um for those 25
miles. So that's my question for you today. if you want to do that. Be interested in talking about getting that ready to bid and uh getting a bid date picked and getting ready for that. Probably a good year for this. Well, prices are down. So, I'm anticipating uh
should get decent prices this year. Um paving contractors, silo contractors are not overly busy as of yet. 105's got a pretty bad hump in it. one of the culverts I believe at least in it. >> It was a culvert that was replaced
towards the west end of it that's got a patch over it. Might be what you're thinking about. It's got a a ride over the patch. >> I know there's a dip one that's farther east. >> I don't think it is. >> Yes.
>> Tries to throw everything out of the box. My pickup. Yeah, >> Jay was just here. >> Yeah, it could be Fuller Lake, too, though, because I know there's it's different a little bit to Fuller Lake and >> Saturday. >> Go to Hos.
>> Yeah. >> Is it east of the dam or west of the I'm trying to remember. I wonder if it isn't east of Yogi. That's where the big one is. Yeah. I >> mean, that would be a reasonable thing. to check out too is if any of these
roadways have any things like that that we should try and get somebody lined up to get patched in advance of doing the silk code. >> See if we can try and get that lined up to happen first thing the spring before they do the sil quote. >> Yeah, be a good idea too. >> We have the funds to do this
or we're applying for funds. >> Sure. Come here. Okay. >> Yes. I don't know how much I counted you counted it. >> Remember pennies don't count anymore. So
we got to round up or round out. >> Will that striping include the lake? >> Yeah, we to go up to the lake parking lot. We want to go up to the lake store >> or the Are are you talking striping or or both? >> And seal coat both. >> Yeah. So that was going to be one of my questions today. I I assumed if you want
to proceed with the silota for doing five um eight up there that you would do that road in as well since it is your money. It's not federal money. When it comes to the striping, we could add the striping to that striping contract. You would just have to pay for that piece yourself because the state wouldn't pay
for that road as a non-federal aid road. >> Sure. Because boy, it's a mess in there. If you don't put those stripes back in, it's a disaster. >> Yeah. So, we we would be putting down uh um you know, somewhat temporary paint as part of the seal coat. So, if we seal coated that, you would get the uh the
cheaper water-based paint. Um and then we'd follow up with the painting project the next year to put down the better, more long-lasting stuff. >> Is that a for sure thing you guys want to do or you want to have that to see the numbers on?
>> I would say we do. We always done four. >> We were originally going to do five last year. >> Yep. if I remember right. Right. >> Yep. It was. And then you switched to 25 just because 25 looked like it was a little rougher condition. >> Yep.
>> I would say it's going to need a milling overlay though down the road. >> Not too far either. >> Yep. When you say not too far, five years. >> Well, that's I mean I don't >> Yeah, >> I don't know. I mean, the seal coat kind of covers it up a little bit, but
>> brushes it over for a while. Yep. >> Yeah. I I just don't know that uh if the condition is bad enough to warrant it doing it quickly. So, I don't know you're going to be able to get her down before you paint. So, that might just be the way it goes. paint that road
and maybe you only get a couple years out of that paint before you have to do something with the pavement. Just the way it goes. >> I would say in five years we're going to have to for sure. >> Yeah. >> There's a lot of traffic in that areas. >> Yep.
Yeah. And that's been uh Well, it's 2016, so it's 10 years already. >> You know, when we opened it up to 105, there's a lot of short a lot of shortcuts on there. I mean, you you got a counter on there, don't you? Yep. We had a comment. >> We can get you that next week. We're going to take those signs down. We
haven't had them down now since October. We'll take them down. We'll get you a comment if you need it for the last since uh June. I know I sent some to Richard earlier and you'll be amazed.
>> It is. It's >> Well, it's a big shortcut. You don't >> have actually been So, that box of speeds in there, too. Speeds have been actually pretty I thought they'd be higher than they are. I mean it's like >> you got to move those signs a little
bit. >> I said you got to move the signs a little bit. >> So I you know you never know five years from now where funding is going to be in the transportation side of it. Um we you guys weren't lucky enough to be able to get any of the flex dollars. So, none of the projects we put in for flex dollars,
you didn't get those and none of them on the county level moved on to the prairie dog funding either. There was a couple townships that got uh approved. >> Google did I saw? >> Yep. Yep. That that combined project between those townships down there did get approved, but only for prairie dog funding. And we don't know yet if
there's going to be any prairie dog money. The way the oil revenue is flowing at this point, won't know that probably for a year. So, so who knows? So, if you wanted to proceed with the seal code, we could get that done. And I'd want to look at a date real quick.
Um, the other question I would have is we didn't get anything done with the courthouse parking lot last year when we did eight. Would there be still interest in taking that on to this project as long as we have a seal contractor up here, too? >> I I think so. >> So, we might look at a different chip or
something for the parking lot instead of the more coarse roadway chips, too. But if you wanted to, we could get that tagged on as well. So, what do you think? Good to go to proceed. Then we pick a biding date and we'll get her done.
So, the DOT letting in March is they they switched their bidings to late in the month instead of the beginning of the month, which is new, but um so their bid letting in March is on the 27th of March. So, my thought process was hopefully uh there'll be a chip seal on
that particular bed letting up in this neck of the woods. I mean, 25 miles is a pretty decent size, but sometimes if they're already up here and mobilized and working with somebody on chips, if you guys come in afterwards and tag on, um sometimes that can help you get better prices. So, I was thinking
sometime that week after that might be a good week for a bid letting because then you would still have the bids opened. um we could check them out and you could award them if they're good on your meeting on April 7th. So um this, you know, bid letings are a
whole lot less formal than they used to be. Typically, uh nowadays we just do them as an online bid. Um you guys dial in and listen to the bid opening and then we bring the results later. So, if you guys are interested in listening to those though, uh I don't know if there's
one day better than any other that week that you'd be interested in. >> Do it on Friday the 3 if you'd like. >> Sure, sounds good. >> Y April. >> Yep. Paul be here. It's Good Friday.
>> It's all online. >> Oh, it is Good Friday. >> Yes. >> Oh, it is. >> You need a second. That's Wayne's birthday, by the way. >> 60. >> Are we agreeing on >> Yeah, we should have five and eight right now. >> Yeah, you guys are going to want to have
some kind of motion. >> I'll make that motion. >> Five and eight. >> Yeah. >> Motion by Perry. Do we have a second? Second. Second by Brandon. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Motion carried. Let's do it on the second though instead of the third.
>> February second forbid open. >> Yep. Yep. I didn't realize that was Easter weekend. >> Okay, perfect. Okay. I didn't have anything else other than that. I wanted to have some stuff on the bridges up in the
northeast, but unfortunately I'm still waiting for the DOT for paperwork. So, I don't quite know exactly where this is going to go yet. Um, it's at the point point where I'm not entirely convinced we're going to be able to get this bid and constructed um this summer now. So,
depending on how this shakes out with them, one of the questions I'll have for you next time is your thought process on winter construction for that particular bridge. So, you want to ponder that just a little bit if you guys would be comfortable having that bridge closed in the winter time.
So ponder that and we can talk about that a little bit more next time. >> That's all I have. Thanks everybody. >> Thank you. Thanks Mike. >> Right. >> Okay. Uh Charlie, are you all done with HR? >> That's all I had. >> Okay. Um we should call KCM, but in the
meantime, maybe we can do the mileage. >> That's the mileage. That's it. actually 725 Tyler can't have three sets three decimal points. So we round it up to three or 73 sets. That's what the rest
of the state is doing to set a motion for that. >> I'll make a motion. >> Motion by Chris. Second second by Brandon. All in favor? I >> opposed. Motion carried. Okay. Casey,
>> morning. I've got a building permit for you guys for Wally Dolman. He's building a 30x40 pole building with a 10x40 lane, too. He's already paid the
uh $25 fee. You guys don't want to see it or not. It's just >> took motion to approve. I'll move to approve the building permit. >> Do we have a second? >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I opposed.
>> Motion carries. >> Other thing I've got an update. Um, thank you guys for transferring Wayne's pickup over to me. This old one. That thing should be good for 10 to 15 years, I would guess. Uh, it's in good shape. I
just got to transfer some of my old tools out of my old pickup and that one should be up for ready for auction. >> Wait on bids or what do we do? >> Whatever you guys want to do with that. >> Putting it out on the on bids, but we
got a couple of other vehicles. >> Two old one's going to go for sure. The other one might go too. So, they're ones that we took in and owners are not coming to get them. So, >> they're old. We might be doing some with the county pickup, too, maybe.
>> Yeah, that one over there. >> It's giving us a lot of problems. >> Yeah. >> So, we'll uh I think the plan is this >> get an inventory. >> Yeah, we'll get an inventory. We'll get that. You guys see have that, but I think this spring >> we'll get Matt in there. Maybe Matt's got some reason. >> I think his his pickup was
got problems. We need to get ready. >> Yeah. >> So, let Matt get >> too. Maybe we can sell them all and buy the new pepper. >> I'll get all the bill so you can look them over and all that. So, >> sounds good.
>> You're thinking spray? >> Yeah, probably honestly probably like me just to get Matt in and looking over all the equipment and it's usually when folks are looking to buy stuff when it's nice out.
>> Yeah. And the only other thing I got for you guys is wondering if you guys are good with me going from hourly to salary. I know you guys had discussed that right away when I joined on to be salary. I had a sour taste in my mouth from being
military being salary and they work at 12 to 16 hour days. So I was a little hesitant on that, but I'm able to figure out how much time I need to be in office and figure out all all that. So, if you guys are good with it, I'd appreciate
going that route, but if you guys need to discuss it, I understand that you should refresh on it. I guess I don't I don't remember all that on top of him. >> We offered the position as salary. Um, he
suggested we wanted to do hourly just because we never did the tax director position. Wasn't sure. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. I wasn't sure like how big of a load there was going to be since this has never been a full-time gig that
nobody's going to be working 60our weeks. >> So the hour that we have to keep track of too. I know it would be easier for CIA to do payroll as well, which >> can you can you can send us all the
information what his pay salary is and then we can look it over and then make a decision next month. >> And it >> Yeah, >> it would just be that approved amount that you guys did, but yeah, I'll send it all over. >> Next table next month. That's right.
>> Sounds good. That's all I had. Okay. Stay safe. Thank you guys. Stay safe. Ben, what plan? >> Yeah. So, a little refresher on that. Um, we had to update per new century code requirements our flood plane
ordinance that we did back in 24. Um, the only thing that changed was the uh on the first page it was the uh centric code references. That's the only thing that changed in the flood plane ordinance. per our uh home rule charter and for our ordinance adoption, we had
to go through the first reading. This would be the second reading and uh approval. I did put it on the paper. Haven't heard anything from anybody on it. Didn't expect to hear anything from anybody on it. So, seeking for a motion to uh adopt the amendment. >> Motion.
>> I'll move to approve the flood plan ordinance. Motion Barry. Second. I'll >> second it. Second by Chris. All in favor? employees. Motion carried. >> Richard, I just need you to sign the very back page. >> It's all ahead.
>> Thank you very much. >> Easy as well. Yeah, please. >> Great. Um 2324 audit. >> You want to talk about what we should do with that as
>> No, this is I can give you kind of the rundown. So, our audit is finished. Um they went over and beyond what they quoted us. So they're asking for more money. >> Go for it. >> Um
it also just not the county, it's also JDA and the water board. I have discussed it with the water board. They said we'll do every anything that the commissioner approve. So, >> I believe it was in that email
like was it 5,000 or >> what was the total >> 40 4550 broke down on there but >> looks like so it's about 83 8,300
change >> extra. Right. Right. 8,400. Would that be broken down into JDA and Waterboard have to pay too? >> Correct. >> Their share of their program share.
>> Yes. >> And is that is that amount in there? The portion of the JDA and Waterboard? >> Yeah, it's broken down in that sheet. I think >> JDA had some money budgeted for audit. I don't know if they had enough that there was
>> so it's a cheaper audit cheap budget like 20 to 30,000 for each year and I believe last March they gave us a quote or do not exceed bill
>> 4550 and now they're wanting >> what is it >> state go back a little They've been doing this all over the state. >> Charlie Charlie kind of said next year
we maybe could say is now it's already done with. They did the work before they told us obviously >> that's handy. >> I think we could go back to them with the counter preventing us from doing
that. Um, it doesn't really have doesn't really have what we won't win anyways, I guess. But doesn't really have exactly what how it would be split.
Doesn't have that. No, that just says the whole that's the total amount, not the new months. And they've this happened like probably two weeks ago when they've been emailing me pretty consistently about, hey, your audit's done, but we're not going to
give it to you until >> we >> Yeah, >> it's a state agency and then they're charging us per hour. >> Over 100 bucks. >> So, did they have a reasoning why it was so much more? They explained it. Yeah.
Is there something that we need to do different to make it easier for them or is it >> it was a lot of the is it FEMA or the FEMA was over >> federal audit was it's a you get so much money. I think it's like
over 3/4 of a million in federal money in any one year time frame. You have to report that and there has to be an additional piece to that. And 23 was when we had all the FEMA money. A lot of a lot of that's kind of that
was office work office >> and a lot of it >> a lot of it was water. >> Yeah. But that was the 22 was the year we had all that stuff. 23 is when we got the money. So it was it falls within that family. So we should be able to
what to charge the water board then >> the water. >> It's here 40 hours 40 hours. It's separated out >> 40 hours for the water resource district and 22 for the county total. So there's an additional We have to do the math. I
guess they didn't really do the math, but we should charge them 150 bucks an hour for every hour China had to spend pulling crap. >> Yes. >> They'll responding to get paid. And I don't know if they're having issues, but even Tasha and I were talking like we
would send them stuff and then two months later they'd ask us they like already said that you >> there's been a lot of turnover. >> It was it's not good there. >> Yeah. >> What' you say? There's been a lot of turnover in the state. >> Well, maybe it'd be worse though. >> So, I don't know if that's why they had
extra cuz >> they couldn't keep things organized. I don't know if But >> weren't you saying you thought some of their stuff was duplicative? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We're not the only county this is happening to either.
This has been happening statewide. >> And if you go with somebody else, then the state would accept your audit. So it's like if we went with somebody else, it would probably be three times. >> Yeah. I don't like I said this, like D said, there's been lots of turnover. I
don't know if it's just they were it wasn't very good this year the last one that I did. >> Well, we'll begin to reach out to maybe some of the representatives to let them know.
Yes, it would. So, sounds like a commission. Yeah, that's that's it's a good thing to do right after this meeting, I think. So, I don't know if you just pay it and just say or you go back >> point of the do not exceed.
>> That's what I asked. >> They just gave me They actually said in the email that they're actually losing money. >> That sounds like a problem. >> They aren't losing money when they're not paying their employees hundred some
dollars an hour. Yeah. Well, Ben and I look at this more closely with Jana and you go back to them with like a third 30% discount. >> Throw it out there.
>> See what happens. >> I think I can tell you what their answer is going to be. >> Buy us some more time. >> You're the one that doesn't even like kids, so I >> We did research on that, by the way, and it is 16 inside the courthouse. Yeah, I'll send it up to any work is outside.
>> Yeah, I just wanted to make sure. >> Well, thanks for bringing it up again. >> Is there campaign everybody okay with that? Throw it back at them or what do you guys want to do? >> Regardless, we're going to have to pay it timely if they're up after you
because we need it. >> We need our audit, too. >> Yeah. >> So, >> are they withholding our audit? >> Yes. Shall we pay them? >> They're they're holding off on the side copy >> which we would give to the Bonnie company. I'm sure.
>> Yeah. >> And I get to ask for it. Sure. It's coming. >> I think I would start at the top and the way down. If you got no answer, then I'm going show you. >> And a lot of it is. I'm telling you guys, there's been many, many articles
from different political subdivisions that have brought complaints against the state auditor's office. One of them has won. >> Yeah, you are correct on that very >> It's very well documented and they're they're overcharging everyone, not just us.
>> A motion to pay it. >> That's motion to pay it. >> We have a second to get it done. I'll second it. Second by Chris. All in favor? I >> opposed. N. Motion carried. Would it be worth it to file a complaint with the attorney general's office?
>> Sure. >> If that I don't know where that goes. I guess if it goes to the agent or supposed to go >> who's who's the we got necessarily represent election year too. >> Yes. Great. It's a little east but yeah
>> yeah but he's like head they like to talk on one side action >> sorry late >> or even >> you can we can tell them how we are disappointed
And >> yeah, >> they did. So going forward, I mean problem is we've looked at this before and if you hire somebody outside it's >> state would accept it and the state usually I know Gregs did that and the state they were like in a legal battle they did and
>> I think the cost be >> we just too most of that overage looks to me like >> a lot of it is the water district >> and JDA it's looks like it's about 6,000 of that overage of that 8,000 or 8300
about 6,000 is what resource JDA so not killing us but it's the premise >> JDA has money budgeted for audit whether or not it's enough I can't say but it >> I don't know about the water district
but it's a lot of money for >> so we can recoup from that okay well you'll read it out and give them >> all right anything Just bills are Oh, radios. I forgot to bring that up.
Uh, so, um, the new radio system is, uh, is in place now. Uh, dispatch has already switched over to the new system. Trao is fully switched over. Then steel, our portables were switched over, but our truck radios
have a problem. Uh we bought those in 2019 and we ordered them with what we thought at the time was the correct stuff in order for it to work on the new system. Since then the state changed a bunch of their requirements and their
standards. So the radios that are uh that are in there are no longer applicable and won't work on new system. So, it was uh a lot of money to put all the new stuff into radios that are getting close to end of life anyways or buy new radios. So, we bought new
radios. Wayne's got money in his budget, so we're good there. And there's money in the um overweight if we need to. >> How much was that? >> How much? >> 30. >> Great. >> How much are you taking out of Wayne's budget? >> As much as we can.
>> Yeah. Rough idea. Uh I think he had 30 in there for an over 50 in there. >> Oh, so we should be able to take all of it or most of it over too. >> Yeah, I'm not worried about from a payment standpoint. We are we got blindsided by
that. So did I mean nobody knew that. >> Yeah, we raised the encryption part. They've added all that stuff got in the last three years and we could fix the old ones up but we're paying almost identical been putting it into
it. It's getting done for another five years radios nowadays they only last for five to seven years. We'll be going three to seven. >> Where's the new old radios going in? >> Yeah. So Motorola actually >> Motorola actually came out with a um or they're coming out with like a tradein
program that they're testing right now. So, we're hoping that we can get included into that. If that doesn't work, then uh Wayne's got some ideas for selling them. >> Some pennies on the dollars. >> They'll work on the old system still. I mean, they're they're still good on the
VHF side. So, the far >> Oh, both. Oh, >> yeah. So, they will. >> Yeah. So, they'll I mean, they'll work, you know, it's just on the new system, we'd have to put all the stuff into it. Not exactly what we wanted to do, but
we got to make sure that these guys are covered. That being said, the system's working really well. It's we haven't had I haven't heard of any system issues besides some stuff in Mayville, but here we haven't. And then the readers that we have, we're
gonna once we take those out, probably sell them on sale. They're worth nothing for literally nothing at least. >> We'll see what we can get for them. >> Or you could trade them in person, right? >> Yeah. Well, they're playing with it right now because they're having a lot
of radios come, you know, a lot of questions from shops coming back. So, they're starting with the portables and then they're just opening up to a few shops in the nation just to see what what they can get and what they can do with it. So, we'll uh I'll research into that a
little bit more before we do any type of selling stuff. But >> the idea would be to sell them at the end of the day, get some cash for it. >> Sounds good. You guys got all the new radios themselves now? >> Uh, so those those new ones are were
supposed to be in last week or this week sometime and uh they'll be in as soon as we get them we'll run trucks out to forks and get them swapped out. Um I sent a message out to all the chiefs last night uh about switching over to the new system. So, um, yeah, it's up to
the chiefs and the departments to get stuff going. >> So, stones won't come out till >> they will, but you guys got to ask them. I got family fire u, they were scheduled for this week and then we weren't. We pushed everything back. So, I haven't pulled off. So, they're working to get family fire scheduled again.
>> Yeah. But I haven't done hope because they want to do the run. >> Yeah. I didn't know if they could come out and do the department then ours here versus them to run stuff. Ours are just a a swap out like a unplug plug in type of thing. Um there's some things that
they'll have to take out from a from the old system standpoint. So it's better for us to go up there or it's better for them to for them to do it instead of us to do it. For them to do it, it's going to take them 20 minutes. I mean, I can run four
vehicles up there pretty fast and in a day, you know, versus nine fire trucks and all that. You want to drive them up to Would you take a little bit longer?
Sirens. I had stones come out and take a look at all the sirens in the county to get them uh onto the dispatch consoles. Uh that's from this last January or last June. Uh just being able to set stuff off uh just having some secondary
options to set stuff off. We obviously BR does a great job setting that stuff off here and there's never been an issue that I know of. Um but just having that secondary option available. So I have some uh I did get some reports back from Stones on that. um depending on what we want to do with the different how we
want if we want to take that and I haven't talked to the departments I haven't talked to the cities uh it's 4 to 8,000 uh per city to update sirens onto the new on the onto the new system and onto the councils.
So I I got to do some background stuff before. I don't necessarily want to paper all that, but it's also not necessarily a city issue, too. But it also is at the same time. >> So if we took that on, who would just
who has access to set those off? Just one person. >> No. So uh they are radio frequency controlled. So as long as you have the code on your radio, you're able to set those off. >> Okay. Um, so anybody with the old Vertex radios like all the departments have right now, uh, can do that as long as
they know the code or or going forward dispatch. Um, on the new system there aren't, uh, the on the new system technically it'll be anybody that has access to portable or access to a radio, they'll be able to do
it. So it'll be members of the the There's four here in four. The shop one doesn't work. >> Doesn't work. >> Did you hear back from stone when I
asked? Uh, >> not yet. We're in the process of transition between us city uh Cavalier and Rand Bosno. So spread a little bit too. >> How's uh
dispatch doing over there? >> Uh some of them like the system, some of them hate it. >> Staffing staffing wise. Staffing wise, they're uh they're short one right now. Technically two. They approved another dispatcher over there for for this year,
but uh they're still short. Wanted to be fully staff retired. They're old chief deputy uh from law switch over a good for them. Yeah, that is actually
something expensive. I should have handed you half of that helmet last month. So more specifically about the state auditor, it's the 2023
audits that where all the complaints are coming from or the great majority of the market. And it's it's not just counties, it's every political subdivision that has to have an audit. since 23 year >> mostly 2023
>> with huge huge costs for the audits >> recouping their money from that I don't know they were they worked on well they worked on the audit and it stopped for a couple months they did something else and they went back to ours we had to ree all this stuff to
them it was not looking at history very well. >> Is it clean people or different people? >> It was the same people that started it. But >> yeah, that supervisor switched it like three different times. That's either
>> I seem to recall a fire district down south that got a pulled from the state for like 75,000 for their audit. >> Wow. >> That one paying for all the golf and the drinks. >> I don't know. I don't I don't know if that was the same one or not. Huh? >> That was Wells Fargo. >> That's it.
>> Yeah. >> And theirs are probably pretty high, too. >> They didn't separate gaming and their general fun stuff. >> Oh, but it's it's every political subdivision. >> What we told from Golden Mike.
>> What's that? We got a bill for Tony to >> that you pass over at the shop. >> Oh, a dead one. >> Yeah, that I think is quite it. >> One of these days you should call them.
Go check those over if you had. One of these days if you have time, you should take them all away and go check those over if you can. >> I'm assuming they're junk. >> What is garbage? >> Yeah. our auto excavation training. It's so
rusty that still. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll keep that in mind. >> Just grab it. >> We had a few in town. We cleaned up. So, I'm all right. >> Just move it over to students. >> Sounds cool.
>> It sounds really cool. at the top. Have a real fun time. >> There you go. Meaning the top down. >> Huh? >> Gives you meaning to flip the top down. We can put tarps in the back and make a pool. So you sit a pool and drive
around. >> Dirt. >> Yeah. Make a motion to approve the bills. >> Second. >> Second. >> Yeah. All in favor? I >> motion carried. Any other business?
All done. Motion to journal. >> Second. >> Second. All in >> favor. Thank