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--------- I thought you left. I was like, we just told you about the meeting. >> He's just hanging out. >> Yep. >> I was miles from home. >> My bad. I should have reminded you of that. >> Okay. Uh June 2nd Steel County Tax

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Equalization Meeting 10:30. We'll hand it over to Casey. >> Morning everybody. So I'll just start it off. There's many exemptions available this year like every other year. Uh we had the primary

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residence credit. Um that was the big one. That was 1,600 bucks off your tax bill. We had 389 were filed and 372 were approved. Um, that was up from 348 last year. So,

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that's good. Keep spreading the news on that. >> Can you say them numbers one more time? >> Uh, 389 were filed through the state, 372 were approved. >> Thank you. >> Yep. Um, let's see. We had 41 homestead

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credits, which is about the same as last year. So with that, the state reimbursed us $33,000. And then we had 31 veteran credits. That's the most I've ever filed. So that's awesome. That was another 33,000.

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Uh, we had 259 farm residence credits that I or applications that I sent out and I only got uh 148 were filled out by the time that I had started my equalization meetings.

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Um, so I've decided that I'm not going to send those out anymore because it's just kind of a waste of time. Um, everybody knows what they have to file. I mean, if you want your exemptions, everybody else files them.

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So, it's kind of a waste of time and waste of money at this point. >> Um, so eggland prices this year, uh, we get that from NDSU and the NRCS. Um, that came back at $1,1427.

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That number is down from last year of,63 and27 and they base us on a 10-year running average. So pretty soon that number is going to go way up because of the COVID numbers where everything is selling for like 4,500 an acre. So pretty soon the

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values are going to be upside down. It's going to be kind of wild in the next few years. So, I didn't do any changes to the land value since that number dropped so far. Um, the only real change I did was to

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the replacement costs and I did that countywide to residential parcels and all I did was a 5% increase. So, that kept everybody's taxes pretty much as low as possible. So, this also kept us within tolerance

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with the state. We have to be within that 90 to 100%. So that kept us right where we need to be. And we need to be within that 90 to 100% with commercial, residential, and egg. And for commercial, we were at 90%.

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Uh residential, we were at 95, and egg, we were at 99. And with all three of those, I submitted that to the state. And I did that with the state's help this year. I actually called them and we were like on the phone together with all those numbers.

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So, they looked over every single thing that I was doing and they approved them with me on the phone. So, um let's see what else. Last year was able to assess Sharon Lever and a bunch of other uh parcels

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around the county. It's kind of a weird year with all those storms. I didn't want to be that guy that was getting real nosy with things, especially after the storms. Had a couple different ones there, as you know. So, it's kind of tricky. Um, this year I'm

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going to be really busy. We had a lot of good help with township officers this year at the meetings telling me, "Hey, this person's not exempt anymore. Uh, this place sold. You got to go check them out." And then this new Golden Lake

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subdivision that's happening, I'm going to be busy out there assessing. And then it sounds like the southeast side of the lake, they might be doing a split and making a new subdivision out there as well. So,

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I'll be busy at the lake again, it looks like, and I'll be hitting a bunch of different places that aren't exempt anymore. I think there's like three or four new cabins going up at Golden, too. >> Yeah, sounds like it. So, good to see

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people building. Uh, biggest thing for this coming year, you probably heard, um, is going to be the increase on the farm exemptions. I'm giving everybody that had previous

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done farm exemptions till the end of June to get me their forms in. If they don't, they're going to get a $300,000 additional valuation on their lot. And that's for like buildings. So that's

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going to be your bins, your house, everything that's a building. Because right now, if they have the exemption, they have land value, which is usually pretty low. Like $12,000. So, it's maybe a couple hundred tax bill is all they

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have to pay. So, I know you guys had agreed on that last year to put the 300,000 on it. So that keeps it fair because I know even for myself if I didn't do the PRC like I did this year,

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that's tough cookies for me. I can't just say, "Hey, I want it." and take it off my bill. I can't just do that. So that's fair for everybody. Um,

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so if we do that right now, I'm still missing about 104 applications. So on average, and I just did kind of a rough estimate, um, an average tax bill is going to be about 3,500 bucks for those people.

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And I mean, that puts us at bringing in about $350,000 for the county. I mean, that's huge. So, that's going to help out the mills and that's going to help out everybody else. It's going to lower taxes, too. So, but if

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>> Well, you've gi opportunities to >> Yeah, I've given them an extra three months to do it. >> I'll consider putting that in the paper. >> Yeah, but I'm going to put uh another notice in the paper. We've done it online. >> All the township meetings, Janna's

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helped also announce it. You put that on our Facebook page as well or >> Yep, we've done that as well. So, there's been plenty of opportunity. I know township officers have also reached out to everybody that they can. They've been super helpful. At this point, if you don't want the exemption, you'll get

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a tax bill for real property. And it's >> do it like should be no reason. >> Yeah. >> Because then essentially we'll get more money too. >> Yes. Essentially, it's going to help the county and your township if people pay their property tax.

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>> I guess we don't know. Maybe they don't qualify. That's why those 104 of them in back. >> Correct. They might not qualify. >> Yeah. I'm working off of old old numbers and sheets and it's time to clean it up.

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So, we got to move forward with it. And there might be some upset people, but it's I know if I qualified for it, I'd sure fill out the piece of paper pretty easy. But I'm giving them till the end of

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June. And after that, it's if you didn't file it this year and you do qualify it for next year, you can fill it out next year. >> That's pretty much all I had for you guys. Um, do you have any questions for me on that stuff?

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I do have two things that I need you to approve if you don't have questions. >> Okay. So, I would need a motion to approve the valuations as presented uh for the 2026 year. I sent those over to you in the email. That was all the

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township values. Those are going to change a little based off of these um increases that I don't get back. >> Do we have a motion for that? >> I will move to approve the valuations as

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presented for 2026. >> Motion made by Perry. Second. >> I'll second. >> Second made by Chris. All in favor? >> I >> I >> opposed. Motion carried. And then this second

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motion is a little lengthy, but uh motion to approve the farm exemptions as presented and all those that turn in by the end of June. Those that are not turned into my office by June 30th will have an additional 300,000 valuation increase placed on their property as

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residential structure. They can reapply for farmer resident residents exemption the following year, but must pay the real property tax bill. Do we have a motion for that? >> I will move to approve the form

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exemption as presented by Casey. >> Motion made by Perry. Second. >> Second. >> Second by Brandon. All in favor? >> I >> I >> opposed. Motion carried. >> That's all I have for you guys. Okay.

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Any other discussion? Looking for adjournment. Move. Motion made by Brandon. Second. Second. Second by Chris. All in favor? I >> approve. Thank you.

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Oh, nothing. G6. You have another one of those agenda on agenda. >> Yeah, I do. >> Thank you. yesterday. Okay. 8:15. Welcome to Steel County

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Commission meeting. Uh on our agenda the date says 5526. Today is actually 6526 62 >> 62 sorry. Yes. Um call the meeting to order. Do we have

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approval of last one's minutes? We check them over. I'll make a motion we approve minutes. >> Motion made by Cougar. Second. >> I'll second it. >> Second by Chris. All in favor?

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>> I I opposed. Motion carried. Uh any additions to the agenda? >> Charlie want to be added. >> Okay. Charlie to and that was for HR. >> Yeah.

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>> And then um Jessica and talk about caller ID stuff. Jessica doesn't need to come in, but she did bring it up. So, >> we'll talk about some color ideas. >> Yeah. >> Any other additions? >> Okay. With that, uh,

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Matt, do you want to come up? Where? Hold on one sec. Did Charlie, did you just want to talk about your HR stuff and then you want to go or do you be here for the meeting? I'll stick around. Okay. Morning everyone. Uh

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just give you an update of what we're doing right now. Um roads took a pretty heavy beating. Uh a lot of soft spots. Uh load restrictions have been lifted. We've got I've got uh

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everybody in blades right now out on the trying to get everything back together. We do have a lot of soft spots that need to be fixed. Um especially on some of the roads that we don't have listed for the contract travel. Um I know I we spoke yesterday

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about uh uh County Road 25. That's that's on my list to get fixed. Um right now uh I have working on 8A there. That was really tore up bad. Um, I think

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that's in the worst condition right now of what we have. Uh, after that, we're going to fix the address that the soft spot on 25. Um, get that taken care of. I know we got the intersection of 8 and

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200, right? That is up high on my list as well. That's a pretty uh heavy traveled road. So, we're whipping them back into shape. It's just taking a little time. You know, we can only go so fast. But, uh, we did have

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our new hire start yesterday. I brought him out, uh, with me. I've been I've got my three summer health employees. Uh, we are busy crack pouring. Uh, eight right now. We only have two miles left. Um, we

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were hoping to finish it all yesterday, but uh, with getting the onboarding for the new full-time guy that cut into my day a little bit. So, we'll finish up the two miles. I think we're right at the lake Tobias Road. So,

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all of all of eight will be done as far as crack sealing and uh, ready for chip seal. And hopefully um I can get over to Hold and start working on the truck route. I'd kind of like to get that done as quickly as possible so we can get on

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the main line and continue on down. Um the uh in the meantime, I do have the new hire with me especially for today um through that northern section of 8. Uh just a extra set of hands flagging in

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those hills. you know, we don't we might not see a lot of traffic, but it's kind of a dangerous area, so I want that extra hands uh with me. Other than that, uh we're just plugging away as quick as we can so we can get down the road. I

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will be losing one of the summer guys uh for a week next week. He's got a planned school trip to New York and Washington and stuff. So, but uh I can it shouldn't be too difficult to make that

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adjustment. So, tomorrow I'm hoping to sit down with our new full-time guy and get some uh blade hours. I hopefully um it's not too wet. You know, I want to give them a little feel uh of the controls in the yard and let them mess

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around before we send them out and start shadowing one of the other full-time blade guys. So, but uh I do have a plan for that one. Um yeah, other than that,

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I think that's about all I have. Uh we did get our new signs in. So, we have uh all our new signs and bases up uh for our operation. If it gets too wet, I might run uh the signs

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that we were loaned from Valley City back maybe uh tomorrow depending on the weather and it could say what 80% chance of rain tomorrow. So, but

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yeah, just plugging away. Sounds good. >> Thanks Matt for dealing with some road issues and stuff. So, but you're getting on top of that and taking care of some of that. So, >> yeah, we the we did have uh two closures

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out there. Uh six south of Hope and uh uh the township road over East and I opened up that township road. Um I know we still got to get a blade down that uh kind of smooth it out. It was a little wet and a few vehicles went around the

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signs and made a couple of ruts, but it's it happens. Yeah. Um and uh six we we took there was a lot of that clay pushing up. It was really soft. So we we

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dug all that out. Um packed millings in and really firmed up that road and then put a nice crown of gravel over the top on six. So that should be good to go. But that's kind of kind of the process we're working on with 8 A is right now.

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So doing the same thing. We had a little breakdown yesterday, but nothing like uh dropping a scoop of clay into the the side dump and the hose blows as you're doing it. So,

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it happens. >> The joys and fun, right? >> Yep. >> That's right. >> But yeah, no, that's that's about all I have. I'm going to head back out on the road and finish out eight and with the guys and keep plugging away.

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>> Sounds good. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Thank you. >> Mike, do you want to We can probably start with the Hugle Albert. I think the Finley guys are coming today. >> I thought David

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I don't know if Hugo Township was coming here yesterday. Didn't say anything. >> Yep. No worries. At this point, it's just think everything is all on track to uh just select a contractor to do the

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replacement anyway. So, sneeze around. service. >> Yeah, if you want to uh start uh with Hugo Township. So, the bridge replacement in Hugo Township. We got two quotes um from contractors to uh to do that work. And that's what the uh little

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bid tab is in front of you. We just put together a little spec packet and sent it out to three contractors and uh asked for quotes. This is what we got back. So the base bid is actually the price from the contractor. You guys buy the culverts yourself. So um in order to get

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to the total potential project cost, I added the true north quote for the culvert on this included in there. So you can see uh low bid is lakeside construction for around 65,000 and change when you include the culvert. And then u KB uh total price there was just

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about 70,000 with the culvert included. So the culvert itself is almost 22,000. >> What do you know the timeline on that culbert >> to get the culverts? It's not on order yet. So I do not know that yet. So I would assume uh I don't know if you've ordered culverts recently. It seems like

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they're coming a little quicker than they have in the past. So just kind of depends on where they're at with their production run. So, if you guys wanted to uh proceed with the project, we'd get that thing ordered right away. Just wanted to make sure you knew what the total cost was before we got too

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carried away. So, >> and I think you they're going to pay half them. That's that was our dream with them. Is this one of those projects where you need a >> Yes. Yes. to clean that sort of place. >> Yeah.

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>> Get that drafted up and then just use that as a template. So >> So I dug through some files for so over the course of last 10 years there's a number of these that have been done. I would think uh your your process or your purpose of thatou is uh to uh once you

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do a bridge replacement like this once your intention is is that it is not yours in the future. So the exception to that would be the uh um federally inspected structures if they're still over that 20 ft. They would still be yours. So those would be the ones you

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would not but this is just a single line of 137 in x 87 in arch pipe. So, this would so probably didn't realize that. >> Yep. I've got that list. You um about a month ago, Jan, I think it was you'd sent that email, but uh I've got a

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preliminary list put together and we'll get you something shortly on that. >> Okay. >> So, been more than a few of them the last 10 years. I don't know if we can go back on him or that was that's what we told them or since I've been on the board we always told them that when they're they get

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washed out or damaged that we wouldn't be responsible you want this going forward that or >> well we probably can't go back to it can we Charlie the prior ones I mean it's in the minutes

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>> well if it's in our minutes and there's an issue You then just reference the minutes from back. Then >> maybe what we should do is the the callerts that you have the list of is go back to the minutes and provide or put a copy in that each each of those callerts.

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>> Yeah, >> it probably be best to just be ahead of that meeting. >> Yeah. I mean, unless you know the townships acknowledge that and you want to have formal paperwork and they're they're willing, you know, you hurt to ask. Well, let's take a list

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and uh maybe we can get a draft letter confirm with reference to the minutes that our rough dates on those two to get back to a motion. We need a motion if we want to move forward. Sorry. Where are we? Where

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are we taking photos from? Yes. It took off and done. >> I think it was 5. We're taking from the old farm to market. That's no longer.

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>> So, while Jana looks for that, I should add that we've got some backho and dozer time estimated in here. Um because that culvert is so short, the way that that channel comes up to the road on the west side, it comes up north of the culvert and then runs directly along the road with the steep road ditch. So we added

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some backho and dozer time in here. As this culvert gets lengthened out, we need to move that channel out in order to get it away from the road and actually get into the end of the new culvert. So my point with that to to Brandon's comment is that know that's estimated hours for that. So it could

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vary just a little bit depending on how much it actually takes to move some of that dirt. >> Well, my my thought process here is keep track where we're funding fund these and budget that we

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have. Make sure we don't run deficit somewhere. >> Yep. >> So, >> yep. I would just add a little contingency to that just in case it takes a little bit longer than what we're hop. >> So, what we did is the farm market. We moved all the funds over to the ro

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bridge need a separate line item. So the farm market which is what we usually take it out of is sitting at 82,000 that's out. What fund did you call that?

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>> It's labeled as farm to market 2025. >> What it's labeled right now? >> Township bridge. What were we looking at there? >> We haven't been that yet. We're gonna be talking about next.

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>> Yeah, there's some options to discuss there with culvert size. >> Okay. >> I think the minimum for that one that you're looking at for culvert cost, just to give you a frame of reference, the minimum there would probably be 24,000 just for the culverts. We're not including install. That's a bigger

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crossing. And this one wasn't a cost share. This one was who's cash? It's cost share. Yeah, math math. >> I don't recall. Were they providing their half this year though or are you spreading that out over time? >> I thought they were going to pay it this

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year, but I'm not sure it was save money. Look at the budget they sent in, but I thought they had >> because they've been working on this for a long time. >> Long time. Yeah. Typically we have been giving them two

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years up to two years bull one yards Okay, I will make a motion to approve lakesides. >> Motion made by second. >> Is it up to a two year trying to add

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correct? >> Well, I think that's typically the >> verbage that we use. Yeah, that is the motion. >> Yes. >> Motion by Perry. Second. Second. Second by Brandon. All in favor?

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>> Opposed? I'm I'm going to abstain. Motion carried. Is David okay there? >> Yeah. >> Will you bring him in please? >> David Mike. >> Okay. We'll talk about the Finley Township Culvers with Finley Township.

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So, we did a hydraulic study for this crossing of the middle branch of the Goose River um in Finley Township. It's uh got one of those old minor structure numbers. So, at one point it it was a bridge 10909 is the uh old structure

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numbers. So, um wanted to uh talk about this one just a little bit um and think about the options for this. If you recall, shoot number of years ago, I think it was 2018 on the same channel upstream um southeast of uh Sharon um

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County Road 7, we replaced a structure on the same channel and I think it was a double line of 10 by six box cover culvers. So, if you look at the uh state highway north of that, I think they're like a double uh 8 by six maybe. And then uh through

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the north south state highway, I think those are double 10 x6. So, my point with that is that upstream of this particular crossing, there's uh some significant sized structures. Just wanted to put that out there as a preference to this. Um, in addition to

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that, once you get east of State Highway 32 and you look in the hydraulic study as far as the, uh, upstream structures with this, um, about a mile to the southwest, there's a, uh, um, arch pipe, which is probably, uh, same situation as this.

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It's an arch pipe where the roadway overflows when the water gets high. Um, so that's a, a 75 ft waterway opening arch pipe. And then you get uh between that and uh the state highway, there is uh another bridge in there that's a

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fairly large structure. It is still a bridge. Then you look downstream of this. Both structures on this channel downstream are still bridges with large waterway openings. So you've got this structure and one other structure in between a bunch of large structures that

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aren't going to restrict the water flow. Um, in this particular situation, I think the way that uh um you can make smaller crossings work is just simply because it is a low road and it does over top um when the water does get high. However, with that, um, if you've

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been out there and looked at downstream of that structure, there's a there's a that significant scour hole downstream of that structure, which is a good indication that, uh, um, you know, you do get some springs when there's significant water and the water's screaming through that culvert coming

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out at a pretty high velocity. Um, just as an indication that, uh, it probably is a little bit undized. So what we looked at for alternatives with this is uh shorter structures. So the existing arch pipe is uh I think it's 109 in wide

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by 86 in tall or somewhere in that neighborhood. So we know that the overflow of the road is just a little over 6 ft from the channel bottom to the top of the road. So the culvert is actually higher than

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the dimension from the bottom of the channel to the top of the overflow of the road. So it overflows the road before it actually fills up this culvert. So your issue with that of course is you've got culvert height in there that you're kind of paying for that doesn't get used until the water

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gets even higher than that. So that's why just to explain why we looked at some shorter options with this. So, the first option we looked at is a double line of 72-in coververts, which is pretty similar to what you've got there. Shorter so that it passes water more

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quickly um in the lower times, but as far as the total waterway area, it's about the same as what the existing is. We looked at a uh kind of a intermediate structure size um of two lines of 90in equivalent arch pipe. So that's 85

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square ft of waterway opening versus the if you take those box coververts that I was talking about upstream, they're 110 to 130 ft somewhere in that range. So this is obviously still smaller than that, but again the road's lower. It

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does over top when the water gets high. And then we just threw in the data to look at a couple different alternatives for concrete box coververs, which I know isn't something you're likely going to use at this point, but just wanted to uh compare the data to uh um what those

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upstream structures were. So really we came out of this, our opinion would be uh putting in the double line of arch pipes so that you're bigger than the existing crossing to kind of help mitigate some of those overflow times. It maybe won't overflow quite as often.

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You've got bigger culverts. It'll slow down the velocity so that it doesn't have quite as much scour force coming out of it. Um of course that all comes with a cost. Arch pipe are always more expensive than round pipe, but we use a lot of arch pipe in the Red River Valley

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just simply because our flat flat terrain and it's difficult to try and get round pipe to work. So, if you look at that double 72 in of round pipe, you're talking 23 $24,000 just for the culverts for that double line. And then

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if you look at the double line of uh arch pipe, so you're going from 56 square w feet of waterway area to 86 square ft of waterway area. The price for those um would just for the culverts would be roughly 32,000.

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So you're talking $8,000 more probably just for the culverts, but you're getting a a fairly significant increase in culvert size um through that particular opening. 24 for the 72s.

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>> For the 72s. Yep. >> About 32 for the for the double arch pipe. Just taking that from uh your average annual bid prices for culverts. Um and making some assumptions on what they would would charge for lifting hooks and all those kind of things based on the standard true north scheme with

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that. So So certainly have some options. You could use a double line of culberts and put it back in about the same size that it is. You could put a double arch pipe in and make a larger crossing to help improve the area just a little bit. And then I think when you go I mean if

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you were going to go to the Cadillac version and want to raise the road just a little bit uh then you'd be looking at uh some bigger carts if you wanted to uh deter overflowing even a little bit more. So just wanted to provide that information. I don't know if uh the township's got some thoughts that they

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would like to add with that or if you guys have any questions on that. How much dirt cover would be in those 90 in >> uh the 90in arch pipe? Uh they that's they're still only 71 in tall. So right now the existing culverts are 86 in tall. So you'd have more cover than what

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you have now. You'd get back to uh we like to see over two feet on those if we can and you'd be back to that. Right now they've got foot maybe there's there's not a whole lot of cover for them right now. So even with these large culverts, we

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need probably have a a little lower. >> So the low area isn't actually at the culverts. It's south, right? >> South south of where the culverts are at is where the lower area is where the uh water overflows the road, which is always preferable. We don't like to see

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the overflow at the culverts. The damages are a little bit away from the culvert. It's a lot cheaper to fix than trying to fix it the culverts itself. So um you know if if you if you look at this you can see the overflow being south on the road the channel comes through and comes this way. So

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that naturally makes sense the overflow goes back in. >> Yeah. All the feeds that we've gone through we never it's always fix >> fix the roads normal. >> Yep. >> That's what it was designed. >> Yep. It's 200 a little over 200 feet

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south of the existing structure is where the overflow is at. So, so just providing some options. Um, if you guys are comfortable with the way it works now, um, there's certainly an option to be able to go back similar to what that was. But, uh, if, uh, if you've had a lot of FEMA events and a

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lot of FEMA damage in the past, there may be some benefit in going slightly larger culverts, too. What are your guys' feelings of those options? >> Well, the smaller ones for 24,000 would be fine with me as long as the open

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still there. I mean, it's we are talking. I would be happy with just putting what's there back. >> Yep. I can live with replacing that overflow during the feeding sites and getting color that lasts longer than

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what this one did. I don't know when this one was last place. >> I think we found that. That's >> I looked in like the

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90 I had to go downstairs for the minute. So they were old murder. >> If I remember right, it was the early 90s. One of those flood events in the early 90s. Y 93 looking for help financial wise from us

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too or with the county funded fully themselves and what happens to it after it's fixed. Um I I think we would probably be looking for half and half and be the same scenario as the rest of

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them. We we do it the one time and after that then we'd be able afterwards if there was a failure. If we change change in this one then we have to waiting president fixing the rest over.

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You got it on your bridge. Neil, can you legally do that? >> Oh, yeah. >> What's the question? >> Yeah, we can we do it all the time. >> Yeah, you do it all the time, but is it legal? We can too.

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We can reopen. It'd be your problem still on. No, we do this really often. share the cost to repair it, then it's yours. The problem is uh we can't keep every bridge open, every culvert, every we do

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our best we can. If we were to fix every cart or road, bridge that was out. Um we'll break the whole budget to it. >> We're doing the best we can. We um this is a minimum maintenance road. there's somebody living along that road be a lot

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different for us. We'd have to look at it differently. But um being a minimum maintenance, I think uh my opinion is if we split it, that's that's about the best we can do it financially because there's going to be

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a time where we can't do it even. We're not going to be able to. I guess this road is getting to be used as a a crossroad now because your grandfing splitting this then what about just being it's minimum maintenance? What

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about making it just a water crossing for a smaller phone, you know, for the the 9 to5 sending the time water pulls. So this this does somewhat function somewhat like a low water crossing

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already just simply because uh of the size of the wershed. Um, so what what you'd be talking about there in order to make that work, if you're going to put much smaller culverts in, you would have to excavate out that road and provide um that that tends to get

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not always as cheap as you would think because when you're going to do that and it's going to over top probably on an annual basis, then you need to put more money into uh armoring that roadway to try and keep it from washing out too. Um, well, I realize it's different, but I mean, these pipes aren't cheap either,

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so they are not. And >> that's where I get back to let's do it the way we're going to end up owning it basically. Let's go back to what's there so it doesn't break the township if it goes out again.

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You know, if those blow out, it's our old probably two years budget to replace them again. You know, if we go with what's there, we maybe can scrape up the money to put

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it back in again. >> How much volume, Mike, was the with the culvert that's there again? >> Uh 54 ft. >> And the 72s were >> 56. >> 56. And the other one was 85, wasn't it? >> Yep. >> 86.

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>> We weren't utilizing though on the big culvert, right? the big culvert uh until the water started going over the road and got higher, you weren't utilizing the top of the culvert either. So I mean culverts are really predicated on head pressure in order to really full

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significant amount of water. So you kind of need that water to build up behind them. So, it's I mean you what what I think you're getting at there is that uh if uh you put in shorter culverts with the same waterway area, you probably improve

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it just a little bit. Um the the drawback that balances it out just a little bit is a double line of culverts. Um two two passages instead of one. Sometimes you balance it out just a little bit. You probably don't get a whole lot of improvement with it, but it's certainly more water.

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you know, the the 85 if the volume for the 85 the large arch culvers is if you're going to do it, I would spend the money and do the arch culvers. >> Well, what I'm looking at it's down the road. >> I know, but if you from 54 to 85, it's

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it's not double, but it's it's significant. A lot more >> for $8,000 difference. >> And what will be the lifespan on those if they don't blow out, >> you know, that's that's really hard to say. Um, we have >> water the whole time that's going to

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make it, you know, faster. They're not in water. >> Probably right now there's there's maybe water sitting in this one, but I don't even know if it's really flowing, you know, it gets to that point where there's, you know, hardly any water

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there. >> Yeah. And the pH of the soil is probably a bigger issue sometimes than actually the water sitting in and rusting it too. I mean, as an example, best example I have in this county is the Fuller Lake Culbert Sukcon Road 5 down there. That was less than 20 years and those things

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rusted out and were gone. So, we actually put coatings on those because of the pH of the soil down there to try and preserve them longer. So, I don't know exactly in this particular location if the soil is very hot, but if these have been in there for 30 years, I would say it must not be too bad. So, it

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that's that's really what it depends on. A lot of culver companies will tell you the last 75 years, but that's maybe optimistic. >> You should you should get 40. You should >> me neither. I guess I'm looking forward for the

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township if if they do move out. >> You know, we're working on a 27 to $30,000 budget a year. >> Yeah. >> You know, you have a project like that. You go to the bank. >> It's a lot of money.

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>> You know, I I I'm looking at Westfield up there. I don't know what they're thinking. They've got two big big ones right in the road that they're liable for and all that. There's no way that they would be able replace either one of them if they went

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home. I >> think the larger or large pipe you'd have less likelihood of it blowing out. That's why you were just that much less likely to have.

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Well, I mean, you know, you get a quick 980. >> Yeah. >> Watching the ice chunks come and these bridges just >> just go. >> But at that point too, then FE would probably step in, you know, and help out.

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>> But I mean, with the road down, you know, with the water flowing over, it's whatever we put in there. I mean, it's, you know, just Right now, the covert's not going to stand. It's rusted out. >> It It's got to be replaced. >> It's got to be replaced. So, it's got to be something's got to be done and and uh

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whatever pipe is best put in there. I guess you know just to keep the road open. Like I said, water goes over it. We we deal with that end anyway. But >> well, you're talking $32,000 for the culvert, but then what's it going to

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cost to have it installed? Well, to save >> or more, probably more or more be 80 $80,000 maybe. So, so as an example, um, Hugo Township had a culvert that was looked at this morning. The, uh, the

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contracting price was a little over 40,000 and the price of the culvert was a little over 20,000. So, the installation price was double >> wouldn't always necessarily be double because there's some other mitigating factors with this as well, but at least

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one and a half times probably. >> Your best recommendation would be what, Mike? We thought the >> considering considering their low low crossing if they wanted to if you threw that in the loop, >> we thought the double arch pipe was probably your best option. It's kind of

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a compromise in size between uh you know what's existing there and what the upstream covers are was our recommendation, but then we don't write the checks for it either. So I certainly understand the situation with that. Uh you know, who knows 40 years from now

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who's going to be responsible. And I guess that's another way I could suggest looking at it too is that if for some reason these do blow out and the culverts are destroyed, say 10 years from now or something at that point you could certainly switch gears and put different covert sizes in

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then too. >> So I mean >> the best insurance for these culards is the rip wrap in front of them. >> Yeah. >> You know, always watch these. I mean it it always settles. I check them a lot. They're settled and there's no rip wrap around them. rip wrap around them. I

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mean, that's the best insurance you got for them down the road. As long as the rip wrap's there, that usually holds them in place, but you know, a lot of people set them and forget about them.

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So, we want to we want to look at some numbers, see what that looks like. No, put the same plate back in what that looks like. Look like it went take a look what it looks like. This might be a charge pipe

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or whatever you guys think. So, we get some wrap our heads around that a little bit. See what that looks like. >> I think that >> I mean then we can kind of >> what is there and and what the cost is going to be because I don't know if we can come up with 40 grand either

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>> because the way the way we're talking here and seeing like I get David's point too that that road that setup there is kind of built for that >> overflow. Y >> to take the excess water, take it across the road in a in a way from the culver,

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which isn't a terrible idea, and then culvert's fine. Don't wreck that structure. Township side might not be that much that expensive, you know, future references that that

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structure just built that way. But they >> a lot of times >> shots a lot of times uh these the same scenarios like on the Palmer stuff up there in Westfield we have a low spot on just west of the culverts up there as well for overflow. I mean that's kind of

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designed for that purpose. Um I don't know. I might I would really recommend Mike's recommendation as well if you're going to do it. I know it's more money but >> it's I'm not going to sign off on that. County is going to be responsible for

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that project forever. That's that's too much money for a township to absorb. I think we need to look at the the total cost of each direction, benefits of each piece

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longterm, what it looks like. Uh and then and then we kind of decision from there. You guys feel like >> well we can vet it out and see what comes of that. >> See what comes back and then let you guys decide what you want to do there. We still we have to figure out how we're

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going to pay for it as well. We just wiped out our one budget with the last call that we just did. So we got figure we're going to come up with the rest of money if we want to move forward on that as well. Well, we have to get something done before.

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It's It's not going to last forever. I drove across with the tractor the other day and it looks like both ends are coming up unless that's the way it's been. But I just I was hoping I wasn't the lucky one. I

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got halfway across and a bubble. Well, would you like us to do that? Bid it out with the same size existing culvert now and then or we can bid all three culverts out if you want. I don't know. It doesn't really matter. >> Yeah. >> Whatever you want. >> Get some numbers, I guess, to see from

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>> Yep. >> all angles. So now we now we know. >> So we can bid out the existing the 72 in double 72s and then the arch spike. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Is that what you want us to do? >> Yeah. out and you were going to do the

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existing one too then, >> right? It's going to be three. >> Okay, we can do that. Get some numbers back >> within a time frame. >> We'll bid that out. Uh we aren't are we having another meeting? Nothing before

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July. It'll be July meeting. So we can have bid numbers back by July and then if people are ready to make a decision, we'll be ready to make a decision as well. >> That weekend for the board. >> I'll make sure I get stuff out this again this month.

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>> I'll go visit with Whitney and see what >> all of our tax money is in for the year. >> Double check. I would say at least 80% of it is >> supposed to say November. Don't we get some more at

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November time frame? The end >> usually. No, usually your big payments are December and then January, February. Yeah. >> I mean depending on if what people need and but we can also get you what hasn't

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paid to be fast. >> Is there a like a payment plan with the county. We'll go two years. >> What's the date of our July meeting? >> Okay, sounds good. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you.

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>> It's all I had in the docket today unless you had anything else. Right. >> Should be good. >> Thanks everybody. >> Thank you very much. >> Thanks. Go ahead. >> Okay. Um, you're staying home meeting, Charlie? You're staying home meeting?

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>> You want to do the log cabin update, Wayne? What? >> Log cabin update. >> Oh, sure. Uh, >> the log cabin. So, I have secured the 17,000 to uh build new.

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Um, I'm in contact with the guy from Minnesota. Um, he wants to come. I think he'll be right after, not this, not next week, but the week after. He's going to be here probably and take it down

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again. He's going to use as uh much as the bones are left. There isn't many. Uh I think I told you before was only probably 25 to 30% original and some of that is gone now. He's going to try to use as much as he

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can. He wants to use cottonwood. If you know somebody wants to get rid of some cottonwood trees, not the big giant ones, the smaller ones, not the hybrid ones, the real cottonwood trees. So, he's got a bunch, but if he knows somebody trying to get rid of some,

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he'll come over and cut a couple down. Even two or three will help. So, >> like giant, >> not the giant ones. That's what he said. That's what he told me. What's a giant one? I have no idea. Most people don't want to get rid of a cottonwood tree that's probably only 50 years old

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though. So hopefully in it won't be in two weeks. >> Should be. >> But he's just taking it down. Yeah, but he's just taking it down. Then everything will be built in Minnesota and then taken apart, brought here, and

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then put back up again. >> Okay, that sounds great. >> That's all I got there. >> How about the 100th celebration update? >> Sure. So, we'll have one more our last May today. Everything is planned. Um, everything is going good there.

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Um, not much to can't think of anything off the top of my head. Are uh little knickknacks where they came in the shirts and the cups. I think you guys got those now. Um, >> this is all outside, right?

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>> This is all outside as a rain day. Then what happened? >> I have to talk to the school. I'm hoping to move it into the school. >> Okay. lots of feedback on our Facebook pages. So, we're expecting a nice crowd. And

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um other than that, Richard will be doing the county commissioners. I hope you're all all there that day. Richard was concerned about um all the commissioners being here, Charlie, um for that day, but I believe that does not fit into any of the

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>> long you're fine as here together. >> Discussing general gathering. you're not success in county business. I >> So, we've invited uh I invited all the excommissioners and anybody who retired

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from Seal County of over 20 years. So, I I could have forgot somebody and I apologize now if I did. Um I got a pretty good memory, but one I cannot get a hold of. I don't know if she's able to move around much anyway, but um some of

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the old commissioners are won't even switch his plans around. They're pretty excited to be here for it. So, that's that's a good thing. So, so hopefully can all be here on Saturday. I know some of you may have other things already going on. I know they they have a couple funeral a funeral that day now. So, know

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we're going to lose a couple people, but so um other than that, I would like you guys to serve the cake. The current commissioner served the cake. I mean, I know how well you guys like serving cake. Perry, you like cutting

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cake. >> Done pretty good at the hot dogs and hamburgers. >> You did a really good job. Hot dogs. So, >> couple times. >> So, unless you guys have another question, you want answered. It's going pretty good. It's not uh >> It's the 13th 12 to1, right? >> What's it

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>> the 13th 12? >> The 13th. It we should be wrapped up by one and then it's a self tur of the courthouse. Uh you can see that um I think all the offices uh the egg office made got posters done. So I think everyone's got a little poster and uh

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including you guys. You probably didn't even know we got it for you. They worked out. They're really nice. I really like them. They think they turned out wonderful. Um everybody's a little different. So those will be either sitting in their in their room if they're around or they'll be outside their door.

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Um, so they can do a self tour and read about every office. And uh, Chris is on the committee with us, I guess. Chrissy, anything else you might remember that they need to know about? >> We're gonna I I and I guess unless you I'm going to have Richard do just a

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little talk about um he's going to hit the main points of what's coming up with the courthouse as well. Um, I know we're a long ways from that yet, but I think uh we need to let the the county people know that uh

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you're looking at it and you know, we know we have a bid back from the architects and we know it's a lot of money and uh obviously it's not going to be done probably in one lump. Probably take a few years to get everything completed, but I think Richard will just fill them in a little

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bit with that. Is there anything else you want us to mention on it that you guys can think of that I know you don't know all the plans. Chris knows most of them. Richard knows a little bit but >> paper Facebook

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>> bit of the paper Facebook. She been running an article now for three four months on Steel County history. We'll touch a little bit of that when we do our our our thing but the agenda is out. I even have Satie

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gonna talk for a few minutes. Is there anything I'm forgetting that you guys want in there that >> I think you should be good? >> Yeah, I think it's it's the Fast and Furious thing. It's nothing to be here for three hours for and they can certainly look around as long as they

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would like, but >> I'm thinking it'll be pretty wrapped up by two three o'clock. So, >> are we going to have bureau? Like >> they're going to Yeah, they'll hit it twice next week. >> Yeah, I got to talk to him today, but uh that that's already Yeah, they're going

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to make sure everything is looking good. Yeah. Yeah, he said that he's going to try to do it Tuesday and Thursday again, but they might have I have to talk to them. The tents usually do seem to go up on Thursdays. They like coming and putting the tents up a couple days

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beforehand because he's got more of a crew. That's usually when they do the Finley Days tents anyway. It's usually Thursday and we don't even need them till Friday night or Saturday. But um we have uh secured all the picnic tables. Sharon has a bunch. Sharon's going to let us so we don't have to keep

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moving them around back and forth. There's stuff up town in here. So that was nice of them, too. Yep. She got some bunch of flowers planted that Megan did. Yeah. And those ladies, like I said, they made all those signs for us, which are I

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think worked out pretty good. So, I really like them. Anything else with that? >> Sounds great. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Okay, Charlie. >> Sure.

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>> You got some HR stuff and then who's talking about the data centers? It was just Jessica could come in here too and I don't know if Charlie knows much about the data centers but there's a lot of uh heat going on right now in Northakota. >> Yeah, I know. I'm I'm up to speed on all

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that. Uh first with my HR stuff um with regard to Matt's new hire, you know, we he drafted that letter up that um required repayment on the CDL. I I had him add a lines for the new new hireer

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to sign saying that the the contractor agreement was acceptable. That way it's more of an enforceable document. >> Okay. >> So, >> can you send that agreement out to us so we can just look at it as well? >> I don't know if Matt's gotten that back to me yet or not. >> Do you have the one that the employee

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sign? Just send it out later. >> Okay. And then uh Jessica went through her six-month probationary period. I did the eval of her. She's been doing a great job in my opinion. And she's

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catching things that maybe weren't quite done correctly in the past and as she finds those, we try to correct them and we're we're doing that. So I don't need to get into details about that, but it's going really well and appreciate your work. Thank you. Then I'm in the process

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of conducting our annual uh evaluations for employees and department heads. I just got a couple I got to do. Hannah and uh I guess Jana, although she's elected, but other than that, Matt's done all his. Everybody else has done uh theirs.

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So, we'll have that wrapped up by the end of the month. >> Okay. And that's basically all I have. I I I will say that I think I mean I sounds like I'm kissing a little bit here, but the way

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this commission decided to go about handling things about two years ago uh in terms of uh HR and letting people do their job and and uh giving them some autonomy, I think has really helped this courthouse a lot. We get a lot of

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compliments about people coming in and saying that this is a it's a nice environment to be in and so appreciate the work you guys did. I know it took us a lot of time to get where we are, but we're in a good place right now. We really are. >> Yes, we do.

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>> Yes. It's a It's a good thing. It's good to hear. >> Well, everybody just do our jobs. me not have to worry about stress or those kind of things. >> Well, I didn't I just I saw that you were looking at some zoning things and

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whatnot for data centers. It's a little overwhelming and I know Jessica's side of things they've been emailing back and forth. >> Yeah. Well, I've been seeing other counties kind of going through it and

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data centers data or county workers are getting like death threats. One of the counties so and then Barnes County not knowing about a data center coming in like you know it's just something I suggested Jonathan just to

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get you guys to think about. So, is there something, >> you know, there's nothing on like I haven't heard of anything. I just wanted to, you know, get you guys to like know about it, I guess. >> Is there something that we should be

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doing as far as zoning as regulations to >> you sent out like a model ordinance or something? >> They did township office meetings. Um, we kind of briefed on it just a little bit like, hey, like they're really popular there right now. They might come in. So again, maybe go back and look

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over your zoning for the township because the county gets all the zoning to townships. So we just kind of said maybe look at that and see might want to add something. I don't know if there >> So the way it works um under current law

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is that the county can't outzone so to speak townships. So it's it's goes it's as local level as possible. If if the townships don't have an ordinance on a specific top topic and the county does and the county's ordinance controls.

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>> So in our in our county is how many townships have zoning rules? Just go link. >> They're all supposed to have them. >> Do they have their own? >> They're all supposed to. >> I I >> But they're they're maybe you could check your files because they're once

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they do do zoning, they're supposed to file them with both the auditor's office and the secretary of state. like I think it was done so many years ago never >> what I what I'm seeing in Trail County um over the last several years when when

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townships call about uh zoning issues that a lot of them were done in the early 90s 91 >> were done in 96 and 99 we did them in 2017 >> okay and then now trail is in the process of the 90% of the county or the

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townships are in the process of reszoning and so I and I believe there's going to be data center language or language that would regulate those kind of things in those so we can certainly look at that's being done by our the engineering firm over in in trail so we

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can look at that but on the other hand and I'm don't want to sound like a conspira conspiracy theorist is that I don't know if there's enough information out there right now to really say whether data centers are good or bad. Um I know the one in Horus or Harwood

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things are going really well there and um they're contributing back to the city like the one in in Enderland for example they or Ellen they actually applied digital the manufacturer of that data

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center they actually assisted the local grocery store so they could stay open and they they've uh uh contributed money to roads and other things. So there can there are examples of good of good partnerships being you know happening

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plus they bring in you know employees and and and residents to the county and and and income in that regard. So, I don't personally then then I and I read that there's a lot of propaganda from believe it or not even China because

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they're building the heck out of a of data centers and they're supposedly filling the uh filling the airwaves over here that they're they're bad to kind of influence people. So I I think there's a lot more that

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needs to be studied before we before we say no data centers or that kind of thing. But I think we should I think we should have the dialogue and look at see what we can find about ordinances for now. That make sense? >> I agree. I have no knowledge of what

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what all they are about but um to to talk about some of your things on then fixing those. They're they're also damaging a lot of roads to build. >> Yep. So, I mean, they they should fix a lot of things. >> Y >> So, uh I I'll keep my eye open for model

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ordinances on that and we'll address that maybe in July. >> Some of them I think is like broadland they were like I have no idea what >> they're they're there. I'm sure they are. It's a matter of fin

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cuz you when I heard it when I came up uh you said to check with auditor and secretary of state. So when I took over for Sharon, I was told that they gave the zone stuff to stop that. So

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>> who who's they? Well, >> Vic Thompson >> from what? >> To be honest, a lot of the township that didn't have any zoning, they relied on the county to do the zoning because the zoning had the general rules. So if you

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need a building permit, like Gold Lake has their own building permits. zoning link would issue their own, but I don't know of any other townships that did their own zoning. It was all under the county guidelines is what they were following. >> I think there a couple I think they did

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down south when they talked about the feed lots. I think there's a couple three four that some in >> it's lake and I think it's either east or it's one of those right some more. So, we did our home rule in 2004

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that allows us to do county zoning. So, I don't know how that all bridged together or not. I I don't know. >> Well, we should uh check out >> I'll check my >> check that out more so we can even let the townships know that hey, >> we are doing your zoning or we aren't

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doing zones, >> right? They can yield their zoning rights to the county. And so >> I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot about it in the next legislative session too. files or it's in this space that people can go to to access it because I got an

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email >> asking about Sharon Township and I'm just ignoring it because >> see and that I got I got that email too and I said well we'll have to reach out to all townships and so like I'm thinking that he went out and reached

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even mass emailed all the townships but he emailed me and I don't think any of the townships were answering so then he came back to me and was asking a bunch of questions like I have to go with townships. I can't like Yeah. >> Didn't you say it like five times? I was

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like it almost sounds AI and like the company it was coming from was a AI company. >> So like they rephrased the question. >> Yeah. So that's what makes you nervous looking townships that don't have any >> that could that could be what's happening. Could be.

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>> Yeah. So, I'll check what I have, but I I haven't I don't think I've talked to Tom Shim about there was only I can't remember the last time I've talked. I get more of that over trail, but I'll look at my my bio folders and see if I

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can find anything. But typically, they're supposed to be filed with the >> Well, as you see though, most of the building parents, Casey guess, they're they're to the Tom County, >> right? Even I did notice there we approved one that was for gold link that probably should have went to gold link first and

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we approved it here first. >> Yeah, it should go to the local level first. But >> yeah, that line is kind of blurred too. >> Do you have you have any is she have time to dig through files to see if we

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have any the township's owning? anything yet, but >> put it put a bug in her ear to look for anything zoning related >> because I wouldn't have all those in my >> If I remember right, I think it was directed from the the commissioners that

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if you didn't have zoning, the the county was going to take care of it. And I don't know if there letters sent, but that was kind of like a gentleman's agreement. Well, and that could have been as part of our home rule, I suppose, because home rule is what allowed Steel to, you know, enact

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ordinances. So, I just don't know the history. It's a long time ago now. So, but let's keep our eyes open and see what we can find. >> There's a model ordinance on this document that Jana sent us. >> Yeah. So,

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that's what I was getting at. You So, what she sent us part of the packet? There was one. Okay. >> Yeah. It was like yesterday I sent it out. Let's see. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll keep we'll dig around and see what we can find.

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>> Uh, what else do we have? Jessica, caller ID. >> Yeah, I brought this up to Janna a while ago. >> Yeah, please. I brought this up to Janna a while ago, but um our offices don't have caller ID.

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So, if we ever get like a phone call of some random person, you can't you're not able to call them back or like I have an instance that happened yesterday that they needed the the number and I couldn't give it to the sheriff's office

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because I don't have that number through caller ID. So, if I my office wants to get color ID, everybody in the building has to get color ID. And I think Janna said or I heard through the grape vine it's

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$10 a month per line, but I don't it could be more. Yeah, I don't know. I think you have to get through the telephone company, but >> How many phones do we have? Do you know that? >> We were trying to think of that, too.

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>> Yeah. Must be like 20 some lions, isn't it? >> That's what That's what I It seemed like 20 lion >> couple bucks. >> But and actually the sheriff's line does have caller ID. They're the only one

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that does. >> That's good. Cell phones. >> Yeah. Good boy. >> But ours is set up so it'll ring our cell phone first. So it rings my cell phone first. It rings it once and then it goes to the office or if it goes to one of the guys. And so that's the only

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we have is because it goes through our cell phones first. >> But can it be a line by line basis or >> it didn't sound like it? Yeah, >> that was like when we were going through that whole foam thing that was when that happened. They said I don't know if

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things changed or what. >> I was just wondering if it was possible because it would be very helpful for my office since I'm the only one in there too. So if I get have a missed phone call, you know, it's easier to call that person back if there's a number there.

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So, >> so you we have checked those with Travis as far as >> I think we have to do it through the telephone company. That's what I >> Yeah, in Greeks County it's all the whole >> building. >> That's what I was told. That's what they did in Griggs County. All the full start

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together too when they moved into the new building. Yeah. >> Maybe you should check into it first and come back. Sounds good. You guys want to talk about any more of that or do you want to just go ahead and get a call or just have her find out

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what she can? We can do one line. Would it be beneficial for everyone to have it? That's the person. >> Maybe sometimes I suppose also >> do us a favor and check out if it has to

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be all the lines or it can be one line, the price per month. >> Check that all out, please. Then come back to us. >> Yeah, do that. >> Thank you. >> I guess once you have it, it's probably like, why didn't I get this earlier? But right now, we don't have it. So, it's just kind of like >> I just can't believe in 2026 that it's

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pretty common on people's numbers to call them back. They'll be like, "Oh, don't you just have it?" And I'm like, "No, >> you have to verbally tell me what your number is because I don't have it popped up." >> So, I call Cranky whenever you know.

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>> All right. So, thank you. uh newspaper binding. >> Um I'm having our summer um help go through all the newspapers and organizing all of them and I just want to see if you guys want to put all the super old ones like

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newspapers in like a book. So right now they're just all kind of >> I don't know how expensive it's going to be. I don't know cuz they're kind of like papers what process is but I just wanted to >> wasn't it last year we had some money to

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help pay for preserving some of that stuff or something >> that would be in Jessica's office that's her budget but every year we do find the newspapers from the previous year and it's some of these I mean I don't know if

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it's different how old they are there's a lot of like on the 30s and 40s downstairs that's just loose kind of getting in rough shape. I just want to get them and then actually go down >> you organize the preserv

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>> Yeah. busy doing that and then so I'll maybe check on pricing and see how all that is and find some there and then I'm also going through um Taylor Taylor's the one that's helping

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me the office right now organizing me we're going through retention schedule just want to make sure that it's okay that I get rid of stuff that's on my schedule have boxes my score losses right now of stuff that

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from the retention schedule say I can go in and shred it. I just want to make sure that you guys are on page that it's on the retention schedule. >> What is your retention schedule for 10 years or 14 years?

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>> It depends on what it is. Yeah. So like I have like the whole list, but it's literally everything in there. A lot of this stuff >> just in case you >> currently is just like budget stuff like from like 2003 just have to keep like

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the hard copy of it and not all the extra stuff and things like that and a lot of payroll stuff and like February where 15 years old is in there. My my thought would be if you have the

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retention um timelines >> y >> anything that falls outside those timelines there's no as the commissioner saying otherwise there's no reason you have to continue to make change >> and like bills and a lot of bills and vouchers stuff that I'm getting rid of

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from like 15 years ago. >> Yes. >> I mean I have bills from the 30s downstairs. I mean that's kind of interesting but also like >> do you you do you say you have hard copies of all that or no? No, not I mean they would be in like the year end stuff

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that are on floppy discs that have got to teach you on a floppy disc but so I mean it's just yeah how much I am using that retention schedule like

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Charlie that's So that's enough. >> When I see the retention schedule, I can show that to you. >> Oh yeah, >> there's just a lot of stuff

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not very useful in my clutter and running out of room. >> Well, it's not of use, so we're not required to retain it, then I guess. >> Yeah. As long as there is not documents

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that uh that we need. >> And anything with like like I said, anything that's on that retention schedule, it will say like permanent file or send to archives or send to tells you like exactly where to send it and like you have to record how

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many inches we're sure what it is. Everybody good with that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I did. I first called MLGC and they said it's $5 per line and you can just do it per line. you don't have to

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have the whole courthouse do it. Then I told Travis and he said he just needs to be notified just so it makes sure it transfers in correctly. So $5 per month per line.

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>> Okay. What are you guys thoughts? >> I'm okay with getting the caller ID for all the phones. specific office just doesn't get that. >> Okay. Is that a motion? >> Motion second. >> Motion made by Brandon, second by Perry.

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All in favor? >> I >> opposed. >> Motion carried. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. What do we got left? We got approval of bills. Is that it? I'm going to do run to the bathroom real

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quick. and the stuff in the yellow. We don't need those from 1930. >> And some of them keep like some of them the old ones I don't recommend going to like the 2000s and like >> Yeah.

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I was actually asking. >> Oh, yeah. >> I don't need 1920. >> I mean, interesting that I don't need 30 of them, right? So, in the ones in the yellow. Is that what I'm currently going for? The yellow

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highlighted part. Watch. to approve the bills. >> Motion made by Brandon. Second. >> Second. >> Second by Chris. All in favor? >> Opposed. Motion carried. >> Should be opening for our county

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commission meeting. Uh looking for adjournment. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Motion made by Perry. Second. >> Second. >> Second by Chris. All in favor? >> Sorry. By grand. Sorry. >> All in favor? >> I opposed.

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>> Motion carried. Thank you everybody. Thank you.