Call this meeting to order. Roll call. Vice Chair Bozer >> here. >> Board member D Bard >> here. >> Board member James >> here. >> Board member Laughlin >> here. >> Board member Monero >> here. >> Board member Mcristel >> here. and board member Whan >> here.
>> Let's stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [clears throat] and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible and justice for all. [clears throat and cough]
>> What is next? Okay, next we've got the advisory board member oath. >> Thank you, Sus. >> Thank you. >> For the record, uh, City Attorney Lee Bagot and the Deputy Clerk is passing out the written oath
so that you guys can all follow along. Uh if everybody will stand and raise the right hand and if you'll repeat after me. I and state your name >> am qualified under the constitution laws of Florida and the code of ordinances
for the city of Stewart, Florida. qualified underut to serve as a member of the community redevelopment board >> to serve as a member of the community redevelopment board >> and that I will well and faithfully perform >> and I will well and faithfully perform
>> the duties of an advisory board member >> the duties of an advisory board member >> on which I am about to enter so help me God >> on which I'm about to enter so help me God >> thank Thank you. And then before y'all leave today, each of you will need to sign um the oath um and provide it back
to the deputy clerk. >> Okay. Uh so next on our agenda is the board reorganization and the selection of chair and vice chair. But before we get started with that, I thought it would be nice for us to just start maybe with Frank and go down uh just with a
brief introduction of, you know, who you are and why you want to serve. >> Yeah. Frank Mcrist uh been in Martin County since 73, city of Stewart I don't know how long, twice
on my second stint. Uh I'm retired or somewhat and uh too much time on my hands and here I am. >> Hi, my name is Frederick James. I serve as a pastor of St. Paul African Methodist Episcopal Church in the
beautiful city of East Stewart. Um, I served last year. I learned a lot of the city and how the city works and I wanted to be a valuable part. That's why I continue to serve. >> Thank you. >> Well, Laughlin and I've been in Stuart since 1993
and I uh just like the way Steuart lives. I like the small town feel. So, that's kind of why I serve. >> Uh, my name is Bonnie Moser. I'm a seventh generation Floridaian. Um I grew up on the west side of Lake Okachchobee. Um only been in Stewart for about five
years, but um I said I was going to live here since I was a little kid. Really? >> Um I'm an urban designer. I don't work in Martin County at all. Um but I just have a great interest in making public spaces and streets better places for the people that live here. So that's why I
serve. >> My name is Scott Whan. This is my uh second time. Like James, still learning. Uh, I've been here for 5 years in Stewart. I moved from North Carolina. I was in law enforcement part of that. I have my own priv investigative firm. I love City of Stewart and I think it's a
great place to live and raise a family. >> And I'm Jeff Mona. Um, was uh served last year like a number of us did and um happy to be back. I've been in uh in and out of Stewart since the early 80s, but
have lived here during that period of time about a total of steward in Palm City about 12 13 years. >> Hi everybody, Phil D. Bard lived here my whole life. I uh have worked in Stewart my entire professional career. Recently
purchased an office on East Ocean planted the flag there and glad to be aboard. >> Awesome. Thank you everyone. Okay, so let's see how I do this and I apologize for my meeting running skills. This is not something that I am used to or know
what I'm doing. >> Uh >> vice chair moer, you want me to introduce this or >> that would be great. >> Okay. All right. >> So, uh each year you guys need to appoint um a chair and a vice chair. So, uh we prefer that you do it separately
by two different motions. So, for some of newer folks, and I guess we only have one new, but you obviously someone make a motion. We can start with the chair or vice chair. Uh it's up to y'all. U and then do a second motion for the other
position the way or keep it separate. >> Okay. So that's not me that makes the motion, it's someone else. >> Yeah, correct. You're actually the chair, >> right? >> Second chair currently. So Okay. >> You wouldn't be able to. Someone else would need to do the motion. >> Okay. >> Madam Chair, I Frederick James would
like to make a motion that we start with the chairman of the board. >> Okay, let's do it. Do we have any nominations for chair for the board? >> Watching my light here. >> Oh, I'm sorry, Frank.
>> I thought you were just going to speak up. Frank, >> I'd like to make a motion for the fair and wonderful Bonnie Moser to be chairman of this board. >> I second.
>> How do I say no? Do I just say no? >> Can you say no? [laughter] But you you we have a motion in a second. So it it it's >> needs to go to the floor, but if you want to decline that. >> Okay. >> You know, >> I would like to decline. I don't really think running a meeting is my skill set.
So if there's any other >> I nominate Frank Mcrist. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second. shock. >> Do we take a one by one vote or do we >> No,
>> you could do it. You could do it all in favor for this particular motion. >> Okay. All in favor? [clears throat] >> And then ask if any >> All opposed or any opposed? Okay. Can Frank take over now? [laughter] >> I guess he could. Okay.
>> You could pass the gabble. >> Here you are, Frank. >> Come on down. Yes, I can. >> I need more than that. >> And while we're switching it, uh again, we're going to need a motion for the vice chair.
>> And the vice chair would act any time that the chair is out or um not available that the vice chair would run the meeting. And in this case, the the last year's chair, the vice is not here. So, the vice chair held this meeting initially.
>> [clears throat] >> Mr. Chairman, I'd like to nominate Sister Bonnie here for vice chair. >> I'll second that motion. >> I'm good with that one. >> Can't get away from all of them. So, Chair Crystal, you'll say you need
to say that there was a motion to to nominate. >> There's a motion to nominate the body moer as vice >> vice chair. >> Vice chair. Any seconds?
>> How about a third? [laughter] [gasps] >> All in favor? >> All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. [clears throat] >> Wow. Chinese fire. Here you go.
I like to be on the outskirts of town. >> Oh my gosh. Now I got it. >> [laughter] >> Well, I must say life truly is like a box of chocolates. >> I woke up so innocently this morning. [laughter] >> All right.
>> That's okay. I'd like to uh request a motion to approve the minutes. [snorts] >> We need to do the agenda first. Chairman Mcrist >> approval. I'd like to make a motion to approve the agenda. >> So moved.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes unanimously. [snorts] >> Any public comment today? >> We have the minutes. >> The minutes now. >> Yeah, you skipped over the minutes. We do need to go back to the minutes.
>> Thought this wasn't going to go well. [laughter] >> Hold on a second. So, we approved the agenda. >> Mhm. >> I think >> we already asked for public agenda for public comment. >> That's after the >> This one's a little different than that one. >> Approval of the >> You have an agenda.
>> I'm reading the wrong thing here. All right. [snorts] Approval of the minutes. Is that where we're at? >> Yes. And then I want to go back to approval agenda. >> No, it's already been done. Sorry. >> Motion to approve the minutes.
>> I'll second the motion. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Now. >> Any public comments? >> Chair. I have no public comment. >> All right. [snorts]
Comments by board members. Let's start over with Mr. D. Bard and work this way. All right. >> Comments? >> No comments. [clears throat] >> Bonnie. >> U just a brief one. Um I can't remember if it was late November, early December,
but a pedestrian child was hit um on MLK in the in the crosswalk by a driver. Um, and I just want to make the comment I think maybe we should take a good hard look at um the plans for that project and make sure that you know we're we're
making it as safe as possible for the kids going to the middle school in the Boys and Girls Club. >> Mr. Laughlin, >> no comments. >> No comment. No comment. >> All right. And my my comment would simply be uh
that this board move forward recognizing the amount of money that's going to be coming in and out of here [snorts] and that we consider approving projects that benefit the
entire city and have us do a good job of distinguishing between real value for the citizens and fluff. And that's my comment. Action items. Yes.
Agenda item number one is [snorts] presentation of the Steuart community redevelopment area history tiff revenue budget and projects.
>> Good afternoon. Panel Gandhi, CRA. >> Thank you, Panel. >> Thank you. Um, CRA director, for the record, congratulations uh Frank Mcrist and Bonnie Moser uh for being uh nominated and and assigned the seats. Um, I'm going to give a brief
presentation on the CRA history, uh, TIFF revenue, CRA budget, and all the program and projects that we're working on in the CRA. Um, some of this might be a repeat for some of you. we do have a new member uh just it might be just an
education for some of the board members but I think it's important to start the year with uh with all the information that uh we have in the CRA um we have two staff members in the CRA um I primarily oversee all the capital improvement projects within the CRA uh
Jordan Pixton who is also here in this room uh she administers the CRA programs and assists the CRA with the day-to-day activities ities. Um, CRA is defined u by an area uh we carry out redevelopment activities to
reduce any slum and blight conditions. Uh, we want to improve the economy of the CRA by using the tax increment financing to reinvest back into the uh into the CRA. Uh, it's a long uh 30-year commitment. Um we uh the CRA was um
reestablished in 1998 and so we um the CRA was going to sunset uh in 2019, but we did a 30-year extension. Um so now the CRA will sunset in 2049. So we have until 2049 uh to
implement the programs and projects that we have identified in the CRA plan. Um here are some of the maps uh that shows that the CRA was originally uh created in 1986 uh and it was uh we did
a a finding of necessity study uh and we presented that to the board. It identified that this area um the original area met the Florida statute requirements for slum and blight and uh at that time uh the the commission
approved the area uh compliance with the Florida statute requirements. Um although we didn't create the trust fund until 1999 like I mentioned um uh but in 1989
uh what we did do is have Dwani come uh to the city and help us develop the urban codes. Uh this helped to establish our urban neighborhoods uh introduce on street parking and streetscape improvements uh for pedestrian within
the urban area. And then 1998, like I mentioned, we reestablished the CRA. We created the trust fund. Now we had the funding to actually reinvest back into the community. Um originally, uh we had the urban area. Then we expanded, which
is the green area that you see on the map. Um then we expanded the CRA in 2002 to include the East Stewart area. Um we expanded in 2006 to include the public safety building on MLK which is the just
one one uh parcel uh that you see in blue and then um in 2015 we extended uh further uh which is the pink area that you see on the map. Um so each time the CRA boundary was expanded uh we had to
do the finding of necessity to determine that the area did meet the slum and blight definition for for the Florida statues. Uh today the CRA encompass encompasses a total of 866 acres of contiguous land uh
which is almost 22% of the city. >> Wow. That's all. Uh we have a CRA plan uh which was originally created in 1998. We've amended that plan several times since then. Um this plan identifies the
projects and programs to be funded with the tax increment revenue. This is kind of like our bible uh where we refer to whenever we want to implement any programs and projects. We want to make sure that we comply with the CRA plan. Um we do amend it from time to time like
I said depending on the economic conditions and know if we if the board wants to add new programs or projects uh within the CRA. So ultimately this board is responsible for implementing the CRA plan. You can find the CRA plan on the CRA website. You can come see me. I'll
be happy to sit down with you and go through the plan. Uh you know the board is responsible to encourage public and private investment. uh improve infrastructure, create a vibrant uh CRA. Um so we want to identify programs and
projects that that will create that. How does the TIF work? Um so when the CRA and the TIF trust fund is created, uh the property appraiser freezes the value uh of the property in the CRA at its current val at current level which
is known as the base value. Um here you can see uh like I mentioned we have uh we had the original CRA then we expanded in 2002, 2006 and 2015. Um so you can see that uh we had the base value for
each individual uh areas uh in 1998, 2002, 2006 and 2015 and then the value for 2025. Um so so what we do is uh the second row
shows the property value in 2025. Uh the difference between the two is the increment property value. Uh and then increases in property tax above the base year is the tax increment fund that is deposited into trust fund which is what we use to uh implement the programs and
projects within the CRA. This chart here shows the tax increment uh tax increment financing that's deposited into trust fund over the years. Um as I mentioned earlier uh it was established in 1998. So we didn't really start collecting tiff revenue until 1999.
uh which was about $43,000 and then we gradually gradually increased until 2007 and then you can see that we had a little dip um when the market crashed in 2008 and then we started to uh increase after 2014. um you do see a significant
increase in tax revenue in the recent years because of all the development redevelopment activities, but we can expect that to be stabilized um since a lot of that stuff has slowed down. Um the CRA has invested TIF in u TIFF, again, I might just say TIFF, it's tax
increment financing in short, TIFF. Uh we've invested TIFF in land purchases, infrastructure or capital improvements and programs. Uh some of the properties that we've purchased over the years are u the North Point property which is just north of
the old drawbridge. It's a vacant site. It has a potential for redevelopment. Dock site property which is the waterfront restaurant next door to us. Triangle property which is the Azul multif family development across the track. And then uh next to the Wells
Fargo building uh which is the vacant parcel uh where we had the plaza but it was recently demolished uh the 325 Southeast Ocean Boulevard and 330 Southeast Ociola Boulevard and most recently we purchased the Willie Gary property with the with the
grant that we received and that's currently in construction. >> [clears throat] >> Uh some of the infrastructure projects that we've completed over the years are the Kowanas Park uh parking lot. Uh I'm not going to go through all of them. Um just to name a few. Redesign of MLK
Boulevard with parking and streetscaping. Uh floating dock, uh MLK Boulevard and Dixie Highway intersection improvements, East Welcome sign. Uh we've contributed to the public safety complex building on MLK, a riverwalk
shade structure. Um some of the recent projects were the Colorado Avenue um the complete street project uh downtown streetscape improvements which was done four or five years ago and then Frasier Crescent sewer improvements and neighborhood improvements where we did
some streetscape improvements. Kindred Johnson uh streetscape improvements uh green bike lanes on Colorado we've done partnered with Habitat for Humanity to do some homes in East Stewart. uh federal highway median improvements, uh riverwalk handrail replacement, uh
sheepard park improvements. All of these are are in our CRA plan. So if you need to reference uh some of the projects we've done, you can you can refer to the CRA plan. Some of the programs that we've initiated in the CRA are uh the bike rack program. Uh we have the tram
uh microtransit system, real estate development accelerator program, wayfinding signage program, mural matching program, residential facade improvement program, street tree program, mosaic artwork on sidewalk. Um, we've received grants to do the housing
rehab program and um and uh neighborhood revitalization program where we partner with Habitat for Humanity uh to do Brush with Kindness uh and partnership with Main Street to do a lot of the downtown activities and events.
Some of the master plans we've completed over the years are the East Stewart Cherret uh which was uh in 2002 and then we recently updated that in 2023 uh downtown parking study triangle district master plan form base code for East Stewart and Creek District and uh we're
still working on the East Stewart National Register designation. [clears throat] Um some since we have some new members um our fiscal year 2026 budget uh the base value uh for uh the CRA was $299
million based on the four areas that I I mentioned earlier and the current taxable value for the city is $940 million um for the CRA is 9 $940 million and this gives us an increment value of 641
uh million. So that means the payment to the CRA from the general funds with the 4.9 millillage is $2.9 million and the contribution from the county to the CRA is $4 million uh for a total of uh tax
increment uh contribution of $6.9 million to the CRA trust fund for 2026. This chart here shows a breakdown of CRA revenue from all the different sources. Um the like I mentioned the the countyy's tiff contribution of $4
million. City's contribution from general fund is $2.9 million and uh other sources include revenue from grants uh which is 12.9 million interest revenue of $35,000 uh wayfinding signage
revenue uh 2700 and uh and then we had to uh take some funding [clears throat] from fund balance of $488,000 to balance this year's budget. uh of $20.5 million. Uh so we budget that 20 20.5 million uh
for various activities and different categories which is operating expenses, personal uh services which is salaries and benefits to the two staff members in the CRA. Professional services for planning and design of projects. Grants for incentive programs like BURP uh
business improvement reimbursement program. mural matching grant program and [clears throat] we also fund um other programs like the tram service. Uh we have FEC leases, various maintenance projects in downtown. Uh but most of our
funding, 88% of our funding is for infrastructure projects. I'm just going to briefly u go through some of the programs and projects that we're working on. Uh the business improvement program uh which we refer to as Burp. Uh it's it's for exterior improvements to commercial properties.
Uh this is a matching grant. Uh we reimburse 50% of the total project cost uh up to $10,000. Uh that project that program usually we advertise uh during the new fiscal year when the budget is approved in October and um deadline is
usually March and we bring those applications to the board to review and approve. Uh last year we created a commercial landscape improvement grant program to encourage some of the business uh commercial properties to bring their landscaping up to code and also provide
some shade trees along the perimeter of the property uh to make it more comfortable for pedestrians to walk. Um we've received one application. This is on first come first-s serve basis. We pay up to $5,000
uh to the applicant under this program. um they are required to provide irrigation system uh as part of this program and um we start we rolled out this program back in January 2025. So it's we still need to promote this program more and try to get more
applications. We have a mural matching grant program to encourage murals in the CRA. Uh this is also a matching program where we reimburse 50% of the total project cost up to $3,000. The residential facade improvement grant
program. It's uh it's incentive program to do minor exterior improvements to residential properties. We pay uh 50% of the total project of the total cost up to $500 and additional $500 for exterior paint. So, a resident can get up to
$10,000, sorry, up to $1,000 for improvements to their property. Um, we're also pursuing uh designation of East Stewart neighborhood on the national register of of historic district. Uh, this is in progress right now. Uh, we hope to have a neighborhood
meeting in February or March. Uh, the state would have to come here and hold that meeting as part of the review process. uh once they review it uh and uh they have their meeting back in state um they would give a formal designation uh to the eastward as a national
register of historic district. Uh we launched we launched another program called heirs property assistance program to help clear titles uh to the property uh so the property can property owners can take advantage of property rights. Um, this program we pay up to 9
uh we pay up to $3,000 per probate, not to exceed $9,000 per property. We do have one application right now that we're working with. Uh we have a probate attorney um that helps us with this program. Uh the CRA contributed about million
dollars of TIFF revenue uh for the construction of the outdoor amphitheater at the at the memorial park. Um, this improvement will include covered stage area, lawn seating, landscaping, lighting, and other park amenities. The total project cost is $2.7 million. Most
of the funding is coming from our park grant funding and um public works and utilities and engineering department are the lead on this project, but um it is partially funded through the CRA. The CR also provides funding for the
operation of the tram system. Uh we also have advertising panels on top of those trams that generates um some revenue up to $4,000 to $5,000 a year. Uh we recently wrap the trams with brighter colors to give more visibility and
promote writership. [clears throat] Uh the streetscape downtown underground streetscape project that's currently underway. Uh we we contracted with Burkhard um to construct that project. It's about $ 8.7 million. Uh the
construction is expected uh the seminal streetscape is already open. Uh but the completion of the undergrounding is expected to be completed by November 2026. Uh the Riverside Park neighborhood improvement project which is just north
of the the drawbridge. Um and this is a mix a mixeduse neighborhood. The total project for this uh the total project cost for this uh project was $2.5 million. We did receive TAP grant for
this project of uh of $1.5 million. Uh the construction began in August 2024 and it was just recently completed in November 2025. the MLK Streetscape as Monty mentioned uh Bonnie mentioned we are uh in the
design phase we completed 30% design for the project uh the project limit is from Dixie Highway to Tarpon Avenue and then we're going to complete the sidewalk improvements on the north side of MLK Boulevard between Tarpon Avenue and Palm Beach Road to have that pedestrian
connectivity. Um the the project includes 10-ft sidewalk on both side of the pro uh both sides of the street on street parking, crosswalks, midblock plaza area, street lights, traffic calming, uh address some of the safety concerns uh at these intersections
because there is a visibility issue and landscaping. Uh we are currently working towards 60% design. Um, but I did want to apply for a grant for this project because this is going to be about6 to7 million project. Um, so I'm taking um
authorization to apply for this grant to the city commission next week. It's the build grant, federal build grant. Um, so once I have that authority to apply, we'll apply for this uh for this project and um depending on if we get awarded uh we'll determine the timeline of this
project. Uh in October 2024, um we amended the scope of the Guy Davis Park project to include the skate park. Um that was something that was directed by the city commission. Uh the Guy Davis Park
improvements is 90% complete. Uh the scope of the work includes multi-purpose sport fill um field, skate park, linear trail, picnic area, shaded pavilion areas, multi-purpose stage areas, um flexible lawn area and fitness trail
loop with exercise equipment, playground with aquetic play equipment, concession, restroom, storage building, monument signage, parking area, landscaping and public art. So it's basically going to be a whole new park. Uh we anticipate to
finalize uh the plans uh by summer uh of 2026 and start construction uh go out for bid and start construction hopefully by fall 2026. This is budgeted for $10 million and um it is in the 2026 budget and $700,000
for the skate park. So a total of $10.7 million for this project. Uh we've also been working on the gateway and district signage program uh since 2021. Uh we went through multiple design concepts and surveys to get
feedback from the community. Uh and every time we went back we went out for um survey or feedback. Uh the the community always selected this wave themed concept that you see um in the CRA. Uh last year we completed the first
phase of the project uh for the downtown gateway and district signage. The second phase includes a horizontal monument sign uh which is going to be at the entry points into Stewart. Um that's currently in fabrication phase and is scheduled to be installed um probably by
summer 2026. Dixie Highway streetscape improvement project is from uh Joan Jefferson to Colorado Avenue. Uh the project consists of reducing the existing travel lane widths, improved sidewalk, crosswalks, street lights and landscaping. Uh we
were approved for TAP grant for this project. So we have to align with the the grant agreement for this for for the construction of this project. Uh we received about $436,000 uh of grant. Uh the we're working on the final plans right now and meeting all
the grant deliverables uh which we expect to complete in 2026 and anticipate to go in construction in 2027. Uh last year we completed uh wrapping of 11 traffic control boxes within the CRA.
Um and uh and we also received the CDBG housing rehab grant uh of $750,000 um to preserve some of our old housing stocks within the CRA. Uh through this program, we've assisted uh nine property
owners and uh eight of them are or seven of them are completed. One is in construction and uh one is still pending. We received uh $10.2 million in CDBG COVID grant for the acquisition, demolition, and new construction for a
job training center at 710 Southeast MLK Boulevard in East Stewart neighborhood. Uh this is the Willie Gary property that I mentioned earlier. We acquired this property for $1.6 million in January 2024. Uh we've uh that that project is
in construction and we expect to complete the construction by September 2026. Stman neighborhood drainage and sidewalk improvements project is budgeted for fiscal year 2026. We received $1.4 million in grant for drainage
improvements. Um and uh we're proposing to combine the sidewalk improvements and uh the drainage improvement projects for cost efficiency and um just overall infrastructure improvements within the neighborhood. Uh we've held several meetings uh with the neighborhood and uh
we've also uh received approval from the city commission to move forward with this project. So right now we're in the design phase and um meeting the grant deliverables. Uh so we expect to complete the design hopefully by mid of
this year mid 2026 and go in construction in fall of 2026. We are also working on the CRA tree infill program. Um uh this is a development of master plan uh of uh tree infill uh within the rightway. Uh it
will be implemented in phases due to budgeting and it's a five-year program. Um the goal of the program is to increase increase shade coverage um reduce heat and create a more comfortable and walkable environment for our pedestrians within the CRA. Uh
currently we're in the design phase. So um master plan phase. So that will come before the board uh for review and approval uh of the tree pallets and um just uh if if you guys approve review the master plan overall master plan and
how we want to phase the project. Um the CRA is partially funding the new courtesy dock that will um withhold uh the storm events. Uh the new courtesy dock will be free and open to the public on first come first-s serve basis. Uh we're expanding from 13 to 30 boat
slips. Uh so it'll increase uh it'll double our our um annual boat use increase visitors to the waterfront district. Um this project is being led by public works and utilities and engineering department. Uh but CRA is going to be funding partially for this
project. That's all I have. Um the board has any questions for me? Any questions for panel? >> I have I have a few, but go ahead. >> No, no, no. I'm good. Go ahead. >> Go ahead, Mr. Laughlin.
>> All right. Um, there's actually several. I see that the CBDC or CBDG said you had a grant of $750,000 and you had what, eight or nine houses already being used. How much of that those funds are going to be used? All of it or
>> All of it. >> Okay, good. Next question. um the Guy Davis project. Once that gets established and finished, is there going to be any um carry cost or admin cost or funding that comes out of the CRA that
that goes annually for that? Has that been factored in as well? >> Usually, if the CRA funds the project, then I'll start budgeting any maintenance expenses that come with those improvements. So, u you will see additional maintenance costs increase in in that line item.
>> Okay. Thanks. Um I see just from the tax revenue you said the budget would be about we get about roughly 6.9 million in tax but then you had a a grant for [clears throat] 12 million that gives the annual budget for 2026 close to 20
20 million. >> Okay. So that's I know you had increased I [clears throat] think your budget last year was 23 million and a lot of that was the big grant. So how and I [clears throat] think you deserve a lot of credit for getting this grant money. That's that's you know over 150%
increase that we would have had otherwise. How difficult is it to get these grants? I mean how how many hoops and headaches do you have to uh what's the PETA factor on that? >> Applying for the grant is not difficult. It's actually administering the grant
and meeting um the quarterly reports and things like that. We [clears throat] do work with our consultants um to help us apply for the grant. Um, so it's not just the grant writer. We also work with um the design team that's like designing the project for us because they have all
the details of the project that needs to be included as uh part of the grant application and a lot of the time they want to see like a shovel ready project. So we don't apply just because we have a vision [clears throat] to do something. We wait till we have 30 60% plans uh
that are ready to go in construction. Um, so that's that's a good time to start applying for these grants and luckily we've had success and lot every time we've applied. >> Very good. And I see in the in the overall budget you had a 6% admin. Is
there a a cap or is somebody determined what the cap for admin cost would be um for the CRA? >> Do we determine is there a cap for that's our city manager, but he's also our finance director. Okay. >> Um
>> do we have a cap? It's just based on our salary and um you know any benefits um health benefits things like that and I think that's how they determine. >> Okay. I'm just thinking relative to some I know some nonprofits they have like a target that they have and they can't cross otherwise they they might lose
funding or whatever. So I didn't know if that applied here. >> I not that I'm aware of. >> Okay. Thanks. Um and 6% isn't outrageous. I'm just I'm not trying to be a you know picky about >> I think it'd be concerning if we had four employees number of employees increase [clears throat] then I think um
there would be some concerns but it's two staff members and we carry out a lot of programs and projects. >> Okay. Now you mentioned the 2025 landscaping grant. Um you wanted to get people's um law land lawnscapes or commercial properties landscape or
landscape up to code. How many do you know of how many people are out of code or is that a major problem? >> A lot because >> and and >> because we have a lot of older properties in the CRA. So >> a lot of time when they come in for any improvements, we work with [clears throat] them to bring them up to
code. Uh but if they're, you know, we want to encourage them, they don't have to make improvements to their property to bring things up to code. So this program kind of encourages them and provides that funding leverage to, you know, >> to make those improvements to their property.
>> It's a good incentive for sure. >> Um and and you've made contact with all these people or or like if you said there's a lot that are out of code, do they know they're out of code, I'm guessing? >> Yeah, so we do work with our code enforcement. Um, so we we um we ask them
if you see that somebody needs to bring the code enforcement is pretty aware of our our landscape code. Um, so they they can just give a notice to these property owners and let them know that we have this program if they're interested in applying. But we do also send out
notices at least once a year to the businesses to let them know about our programs. >> Okay. >> Can I ask a question related to that while you're on the topic? >> Yeah. Can we are we allowed to as CRB board members like if we see a property like if I see somewhere I'm like man they could squeeze some trees in front
of that parking lot can we approach them? >> Yes. Okay. >> Definitely. And just give our contact contact information all these programs and projects we really especially programs we really request ask the board members to help us spread the word especi like the heirs um you know
property assistance program. We have a lot of properties in East Stewart that could benefit from that program. So, we really need the board members to help us get the word out. >> Thank you. >> So, with that in mind, so if you get this money coming in and it doesn't get spent,
>> then what? >> You just you just said we need to do a better job of making sure people know it's available. What happens if it doesn't get fund balance? >> Okay. Very good. We don't lose it. >> We don't lose it. Just back to our fund balance. >> Good. Thank you. >> I have a couple more. Just a couple more
questions. Um, you said the National Register of Historic Districts for is what you're trying to get for East Stewart. Is there any um restrictions? I'm I'm assuming there's restrictions on on um building that comes with the National Register of Historic Districts. So, with with the residents of East
Stewart, are they aware that they're they're potentially um going to be put into the historic district and they're okay with or they approve of the uh >> we've had multiple meetings in the neighborhood um making them aware that we're pursuing this. Uh we do have their
support. Uh it doesn't just because they're National Register of Historic District. um that does not um you know uh refrain them from doing any improvements to their property. It's just that it helps with grants. If if the church or or any nonprofits or other
organization wants to apply for grants for their property, it just gives them a upper hand with this designation. >> Okay. [clears throat] And couple more. Um you mentioned the trams. How do they generate revenue? So, they have $45,000
in revenue. I mean, >> uh it's mainly funded through the CRA, but they do generate about $4 to $5,000 in revenue from the the panels that they have on top of the uh Okay. of those Yeah. commercial advertisements.
>> You said the writership's 45,000. >> Uh I don't remember, but it did increase from >> it, right? >> 45,000 >> people annually. I see what it says. >> Seems like a high number. [clears throat] >> Um,
>> seems like a very high >> ridership between January 2024 to December 24, it was $45,000. >> I mean 25,000 passengers and it was up 500 passengers from previous year. >> Okay. Okay.
And let's see here. Um, talking about the CRA funds just compared to 1998 to the current, you're up like 450%. um does the CRA. So the way the CRA works is basically it eventually goes exponential which is is a huge advantage
for any developer who who develops or you know targets these kind of CRA type of uh areas. So you have this as the numbers go exponential you get this big pot of cash. [clears throat] Does any of this restrict any any are
any of these funds restricted in particular like some of the CRA money if there's um a city of Stewart service like the police or fire that works inside the CRA but also works outside the CRA do they get a certain percentage of that funding
like let's say a police officer works his and it's hard I would imagine it's hard because a police officer is going everywhere but let's say they do 60% of their time inside the CRA maybe The city manager knows the answer to this. Um,
>> Lewis Boglioli, interim city manager. Thank you, board member Laughlin. Uh, no, community policing is one of the few services that has been allowed in the CRA throughout um, Florida challenges at at different levels through statute and
and court cases. So typically what happens is whatever service the general fund was providing previously you can't just hand it off to the CRA and there's not some percentage and believe me we've tried that in past years. Let's have the CRA pay for 30% of street sweeping because 30% of the streets are in there.
like [snorts] no no no the the general fund was already street sweeping but uh the CRA has in the past funded additional services above above and beyond what was previously provided by general fund and in that case we've had police officers in the past that rode the segue around just the uh CRA
district and had a kind of higher presence there so the CRA can pay for additional services above and beyond what general fund would normally support which is what the base revenue is supposed to represent in this tiff calculation So, >> however, the the flaw there is that base
amount's frozen from 1998 and the cost of a cop is not the same as it was in 1998. >> So, then that extra tax burden gets passed off to people outside of the CRA that >> Well, I mean, as you know, your finance director at the city of Stewart does a phenomenal job in keeping the tax rate
very low. In fact, we reduced it this year. So, I don't think that's a concern really. >> Wow. >> We do more with less. We are however looking at what might happen with the legislature and the promises of Governor Dantis because any reduction in the general millage of both the city and the
county would drastically affect the funding of the CRA at all. So I mean we we don't know what's going to happen. So your comment about the exponential funding in the CRA into the future that you know might not take place if there's a mandated reduction in general millage rates
around the state you know or specifically here in Martin County in the city of Stewart. >> Uh so did you just what I heard was you said that uh at least some of the time the CRA ends up chipping in more
than its fair share for certain things. Yes. No. >> No, sir. No, that's not it. Any service that general fund was already providing, we were streaming, we were sweeping the streets before the CRA was funded. >> Correct. >> And we were providing police protection before the CRA, TIFF fun was created. So, general fund continues to provide
that base level of support. But in instances where say the CRA says we'd like a higher level of community policing presence, community policing is one of the programs that CRAAS have been um allowed to provide. And so there haven't been challenges to that. And so
that's specifically denoted in many of the CRA formation [clears throat] panel reference that we have to justify the creation of a district. One of those things allowed by the law for a CRA to provide is policing support if they pay for that additional officer or that
those additional services. >> Okay. >> Just last two questions. Um city uh owns property. You mentioned Docside Aul Willie Gary's property. Um, uh, do we lease those out or how does that work? Okay,
>> those are leased out. >> Um, ultimately it's kind of like giving a gift to your parent. You're going to get it back eventually in the end. So, the CRA owns property that they've purchased. However, in the end, it will still be general funds property. At the moment, uh, the CRA doesn't lease any
property. So, there are leased properties which general fund owns and those go into a separate fund for that. similar to the CRA. So, there was a question earlier about what happens to unspent CRA funds. CRA has its own fund and so any unspent dollars don't get
co-mingled with the rest of general fund. It sits in there by itself. But those properties that the city does own and lease out currently are in a separate fund that we maintain, the leased property management fund, which is included in the city's annual budget and our annual audit.
>> Okay. So, funds from the CRA were used to buy these properties. And then they go into >> I don't currently know of a a property that's being leased that the CRA purchased. >> We don't right we don't collect any lease. >> They they've purchased some property and then was demolished or they've purchased
property and helped fund what was there but um those funds go towards the maintenance of those leased properties and funding those. >> Okay. >> So um yeah what >> we benefit from when those properties get redeveloped and uh we get tiff revenue from those properties. So that's
why we like to invest into >> Okay. So you then sell the property to the new person or it sounded like he just says, "Well, will you keep that property like the gifts to your parents? You're going to get them eventually." So you actually own >> What I'm saying? Yeah. Any any property that the city of Stuart or that the CRA currently owns. So I believe Penol
referenced the property there next to Wells Fargo. So the CRA can purchase properties for development purposes, not investment. We don't make investments on properties. We can purchase a property to control its development future. At some point when the CRA sunsets in
>> 20349 >> 49 2049 after the last extension and the CRA would theoretically dissolve and sunset, it all becomes general funds property again. Anyway, that's my reference. >> Well, one of my concerns earlier is like you get as this thing goes exponential, you get a lot of funds. So, if I'm a
developer and I'm sitting there watching and I see, well, here's a nice property that you you you guys should really invest in. And then the CRA buys it, then oh, how about that? I'm the developer that gets that property for no lease. It's a pretty good deal. >> I'm talking you said no lease.
>> No lease, right? I mean, you get >> We don't give away property for free. >> Okay. Well, no. So, how are they how are they generating any revenue from these properties that were >> So, what happens is [clears throat] I'll reference I mean we we don't buy properties for investment. I want to make sure we say that because sometimes
the words matter and when the auditors read the minutes they say, "Oh, did your commission say they're buying a property to invest in it?" Then I have to do a rate of return on the investment and are we getting our money back on it? No, no, no. Okay. We purchase property for development purposes. Then what happens
is you may do an RFP to have the property developed. you go through a public procurement process and then when that property is developed, it may be sold, it may be retained under city lease, but the benefit to the CRA is a vacant lot now becomes a developed
property. It adds to the tax role because even though we own it, if we lease it, it becomes taxable. So any property the city owns that is used for public purpose is not taxable, but if we lease it, it is taxable. So it goes on the tax role at its taxable value. And
so the CRA gains that TIFF revenue from that developed property. Okay. >> So that that's the goal is a to control what may or may not go on the property, hold it until we know where its zoning is going or something like that. But then also afterwards the investment in
that property not purchasing it as an investment but investing in the property develops into a project that contributes to the tax base of the city thereby lessening the burden of the general taxpayers not requiring us to raise the general millillage. >> Gotcha.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. And um last one. Uh you said the Florida state statute identifies slum and blight. What's the definition of slum and blight? Because um so it's defined
as uh where we have inadequate u infrastructure. If there's a sidewalk missing, there's a roadway connectivity missing, short of a shortage of housing, affordable housing, uh if there are a lot of vacant parcels. So there's like a
list of items that they have uh that define slum and blight. And if you meet those conditions within the area, then you have to demonstrate that this area has those conditions. And uh we submit that report to the to the state to
review and approve. >> Okay. because there was some waterfront properties on there that I I would think that it's not really a slum, but >> but when it was created, it was at that time. >> Okay. All right. Thanks for your time and thanks for answering my questions.
>> I had just one followup to Wills. I'm still not 100% clear on okay the the city of Stewart purchases this property. Um and then what is the process the steps between that and it being developed by a third party? What
are the steps? Where do the money flows? How does that all the whole process work? >> Um do you want to do it? Oh, you want me to go ahead? >> Sure, I'll do it. a determination is made by one of the governing boards or all the governing
boards be it the city of Stewart commission or the CRA and so a property that the city has acquired through whatever means um after an extensive review and given whatever the political error is of the day do we develop do we not develop what gets developed there if
it is then um that's always through a procurement process so we put out a public invitation to bid or request [clears throat] for proposals and uh competitively offered bids are submitted by developers and contractors or engineers and
designers. The city goes through its normal selection process. It would we say this looks good to us. We go forward and they're awarded that contract to then develop that property based on what we do. So, it's not really, you know, much of a public one at that point. Sometimes the city, and I've been here
31 years now, sometimes the city sells the property after we've held it long enough to make sure it goes what it does, or we retain it and have a a land lease on it of some type. And you know, from the Jeff Crossoff days, it's always the triple net lease. We make sure the renter pays the taxes, the fees, and the
utilities. So it so far we've been very lucky in our negotiations that we've been successful in acquiring those leases so that the city gets the taxable value added to the tax base be it just general fund or both the CRA and general fund and you know we we haven't so far
the deal's been more pros than cons. >> Okay. >> Any more questions for anybody? >> Um I actually have one. Um, I'm thinking about the project lift being nonprofit. How does that uh help the tax base?
>> Well, I think that also it it also helps with the redevelopment of the surrounding area. >> Okay. >> Um because when you see some properties um it's a it's it's it's a spur uh improvements, right? like when you see an improvement within the area, the other property owners want to start
taking care of their property and start making making investments into their property. So, um sometimes it just takes one property owner to make those improvements and it kind of has that effect uh throughout the corridor. >> Yeah, it's the community redevelopment
agency, not the economic redevelopment agency. So, as as Panel is referencing, hopefully we we try to get some kind of collateral uh repair instead of collateral damage. And so, improving the surrounding properties hopefully will increase, you
know, the at least intent of the neighbors to do it or if we've added some sort of uh community benefit. So, I think with project lift and those we're also talking about providing a benefit to the citizens and not just an increase in the possible tax base. But uh you know the statement was made some
meetings back that about whether an amenity contributes something. I would just add Disney World has never paid $1 of property tax to any of the surrounding communities. >> But I would argue that they have benefited economically even though they weren't on anyone's tax role. So I I
think the city of Stewart wants something a little less than Disney but more than the world's largest ball of twine. So, you know that we're trying to get projects that would benefit and add stuff if not more than just to make a neighbor think, "Hey, I want to spruce
my place up, too." So, >> if you give me $50 million, I'll spruce my, [laughter] >> you know, it really hurts on my side to see it, not be able to touch it, right? It's like I just have a lot of money goes right through my fingers that I never get to touch. So, >> thank you very much. >> Thank you.
>> But now, I got a couple questions. Uh you said that the the area square mile area or what land area is 22% of the city >> the CRA [sighs]
have have [clears throat] we figured out uh what percentage of Steuart city residents are inside the CRA versus the ones who are outside? Do you have those do you have any kind of estimate or guesstimate of those numbers by population? >> Residential area,
>> the whole city. Yeah, the city is the city. The total acreage that I have is >> No, I mean population citizens that live inside the CRA versus citizens that who live outside the CRA. >> I don't have it broken down by
population within the CRA. Um just I know it's about 18,000 people um in the city. I I don't have the the number. >> I'm guessing it's it's it's not even close to even just by the land size and
then by the amount of commercial uh buildings inside the CRA. So, I'm guessing, you know, [snorts] you could you could estimate it's fairly lopsided those outside of the CRA from a population point of view. Yeah.
>> Will you do me a favor? Will you will you pull up that one bar graph that you where you showed the income coming in and and Mr. Laughlin called it a parabolic >> blastoff? >> So I I have a hard time I can't see that last one is 2025 on the far right
>> 2026. Okay, that's that's the projected or you already got it in your pocket. >> This year's budget. >> You've got it in your pocket, >> right? >> Okay. So you've got this money coming in. Have you done a good have you done a good job of spending it all as as this has gone
parabolic? Have you had to like scramble to find places to spend it or is no problem? >> Uh we do have large projects. So a lot of our projects are you know between 6 to10 million. Okay. Um but I also get grants. So sometimes I you know because
of the grants u I do have some money in our fund balance uh that we haven't spent. But again, there are other projects that's in the CRA that's projected uh for construction. So that's gonna that's gonna that's not going to meet our budget because our budget is
about $67 million and some of these projects are 10 to 12 million projects. Okay? >> So we have money in the fund balance to fund those projects. >> It's almost uncanny how much of an increase is in those last four years almost an exact same amount increase. Uh and and you mentioned when when you
showed this slide to us that you expect that gravy train to end. You don't you're not expecting this >> and and this was and this was caused this last four or five year that exponential growth was caused. Why? Again >> some of those redevelopments or
development projects that were approved last five years. >> Okay. >> Um so those all went in construction and those were completed and in our tax role. Uh but we don't have any other projects that are that I expect to get on our tax role that's going to increase
the tax revenue for the CRA. >> Okay. Um All right. Thank Thank you very much. >> Okay. Um, chairperson, the the issue being each year the Martin County property appraiser tells us what our tax what the
taxable value is, what it's worth. >> And so the we get a taxable value for the city and then we get a taxable value for the CRA separately. And historically in these years that you're looking at, the CRA's concentrated taxable value has a bigger increase than the city's
general overall increases. So, you know, when the property appraiser said that our property values went up 7% this year, CRAAS went up >> 19. Yeah. 19. >> So, so I mean, they're just valuing the project, you know, the projects and the properties inside the CRA at a higher
rate in value than they are the general city overall. So, we have we have multiple factors. So, then that number goes to Martin County and it comes to us. And PL, you did an excellent job earlier. I'm just going to give them a little more detail. So the general millage rate that all citizens inside
Martin County pay including city of Stewart citizens the 6.4 mills to Martin County general and then the 4.9 mills that we paid here in the city. We apply the 4.9 mills to that taxable value and the Martin County applies their 6.4
mills to that taxable value and then we both have to write a check before January 1st which is why panel says yes we have the money now. So general fund stroked its check and Martin County stroked its check. They're both in the tiff fund now as of this date. So that is this money is coming from that. And
so that CRA value that's actually what it was designed to do was to gain value in the property faster than the rest of the city. Plus the rest of the city, especially here in the Treasure Coast, we have some values pushing down. City of Stewart's exemptions are growing
each year, whereas our surrounding like Jupiter Islands exemptions just dropped. Like a few people who were homesteaded decided to not homestead. So, our tax base is being eroded by exemptions for double homestead, you know, first responders who are um injured, disabled
veterans. So, that that's cutting into that, but that doesn't change what we pay into the tiff. So, u if if the Martin County property appraiser next year says the CRA value only went up 10%, right? That's irrespective of what
the whole cities. They'll give us one number for general fund and then they'll give us one number for the CRA and Martin County and the general fund both have to pay into that based on whatever the property appraiser said that increase was. So it it's kind of achieving what it was originally designed to do. It's meant to generate
this and and to some history for a while out of the four sections that make up the CRA through the different not every section has improved in value over time. some some didn't improve in value, but the other sections covered that and
chipped in. So then you could actually say that some sections of the CRA benefited more from the CRA than than others because they didn't add to the TIFF value, but they still received funds and benefited from it. So that's the deal is that there's a synergy between the properties and they grow
together as a total value like that. So yes, the waterfront ones will probably generate more of an improvement value than the inland, you know, main to the core part, but again, depends on what gets put there. So I I think you just
answered the question I've always had about this whole CRA business. [clears throat] from what you just said, um there's a lot of money coming in that benefits the entire city that wouldn't be coming in if we didn't have a CRA.
Correct. Period. End of deal. So if I'm in other words I'm not saying that person on the street is me seeing cell I'm the chairman of this fine board but and maybe maybe panel by the next time
we meet um if you can't answer it now but in in a forest gump type terms I would love to be able to see the average citizen on the street and explain and be very proud out of the CRA
and really explain the benefits to them even if they're not inside the CRA. I would really like that. So, I think you just did a good a pretty good job of of that. There's money that we wouldn't if we didn't have a CRA, there's a whole
bunch of money would wouldn't even have. >> Well, you you you do uh a it's a concentrated effort on that. So it generates money to itself. But there's also this thing about can we get any of the money that we pay to Martin County back. This is one of those few simple
ways that the taxpayers of Steuart get some money back from Martin County to, you know, to to do that. So if it's a worthwhile project, >> you know, maybe the city would do it regardless, but some of the projects like we just can't really find the money for that. But with the CRA, like, oh, we
can do this project >> because the money wouldn't have been there otherwise. So, so let's do it since we have it. >> Okay. Don't let Don't don't look a gift orfus in the mouth. Right. >> Correct. [clears throat] >> All right. Any other questions?
>> Uh, I have just one. I'm sad Jordan left before I could say this, but I I think this chart's appropriate to be up while I'm saying it. Um, I'm I'm really impressed with you guys with all the grant funding that you're um that you're getting because the money's out there and we might as well apply for it and
get it. Um, and uh, there's been so much movement construction wise lately, like things are really ramping up and I love to see our tax dollars visually, you know, being used in a way that's going to benefit us all. So, thank you guys for the hard work. Um,
>> I've worked with a lot of CRAAS and they don't all >> function and and are not able to get things done as quickly. So, uh, kudos to you guys. Um, >> my only question is are there any plans to expand the CRA and if so, like what
are the strategies or the rules to do that? >> We don't have any plans to expand the CRA at this time. I know that we'll get a lot of kickback from the county if we right if we try to expand the CRA because that means they have to contribute okay
>> for that. So I know last time when we tried to do it in 2015 I wasn't here but um maybe Jolie could kind of explain how it how it went. >> Yeah. Since I was here when we made the TIFF fund and all that. Yeah. >> Yeah. You were here. >> I I did all that documentation. Yeah.
No. Um wow. Deep deep dive. Martin County is not a charter county, so they cannot oppose us creating a TIFF or CRA rather. >> Um, however, we like to play nice with our neighbor since we are the county seat. Um, as far as creating another
expanding the CRA or doing a boundary, panal already went through the process of having to prove there's blight and blight doesn't necessarily mean like crack dealer. It could just be there's a shortage of infrastructure. So the the the point being though that
um there have been multiple legislative challenges for at least what the last six seven years straight >> uh with all kinds of language of like we're ending all CRAAS today no new CRAAS from this point forward uh only C
if the CRA has debt at least you can keep doing that so um I a second ago don't look a gift horse in the mouth do the project while we can I don't know what the future sure viability of a CRA is given that there's so many challenges each year these one
of these bills eventually is going to land and it might be harmless in the fact of like no new CRAAS going forward or it might be detrimental as one of the bills that made it through a few of the committees was you know end them today and and just stop where you are. >> So to your point of I I don't think we
have any plans of expanding the CRA at this moment. I'm only in the seat temporarily, >> I think. >> But uh but I I don't think we're looking to expand the CRA at this moment, but I also don't know that we'll be able to in the future >> given what's going on in town. [clears throat] >> All right. Thank you. >> We're all waiting. >> That's it for me.
>> All right. Action item number five, nominate board member for Community Redevelopment Agency, the CRA. Uh what does what does RC mean in parenthesis? Uh, Chair Mcrist, I'm happy. We're going
to need to read in the resolution number, and I'm happy to do that for you. >> Okay. Very good. Go ahead. >> Um, resolution number 01-2026 CRB. a resolution of the community redevelopment board of the city of Steuart, Florida to nominate two members to serve on the community redevelopment
agency for the remaining current term from present to December 31st, 2026, providing an effective date and for other purposes. And I I'll go ahead and introduce the item um and and uh our new
board member Deard, we have a lot of new uh acronyms you're going to have to learn. You've heard CRA. That could be community redevelopment area which is the boundary or it could mean the community redevelopment agency. So this particular resolution is to nominate two
members from your board to be on with the five commissioners on the community redevelopment agency and our two uh members from this board will be voting members there and and so you will be voting with the commissioners as a seven unit board uh for the community
redevelopment agency. Uh last year we had two members uh board member James and board member Brebill. Mr. Breckbell is no longer on the board and uh board member James is still here but we do this on an annual basis. So you will need to nominate two of you from uh your
board to represent uh the CRB at the CRA and you will be voting members and you also have to attend another board meeting uh on a monthly basis and it's typically u before the regular city commission. So, usually starts about 3:30 3:00.
>> The CRA starts at 4:00 and it's first Monday of every month. >> So, just to keep that in mind by nominations that you you you're going to have to be at another board meeting. >> Um I I would suggest since uh Chair Mcrist since we had the problem um with
nominating the chair and vice chair, might want to have people uh get a list of people who volunteering who's willing to do it and then go for motions uh to fill the two chairs. And you can do a motion for both chairs uh to be seated on the CRA would be my recommendation, but my recommendation to see if anybody
would volunteer for it and then you guys can have someone do a motion >> and a second. >> Okay. Do I have any volunteers to serve on the CRA for this year? >> Would board member James like to continue?
>> They don't really listen to us, but I will continue. >> They're willing to do it if nobody else wants it. All right, >> got two. All right, >> anybody else? >> Anybody else? >> All right, so now we're going to vote on
those two at the same time. >> We need to entertain a motion and you can't make it. Chair, [clears throat] >> I'd make a motion that we have a board member or committee member James and Debard
as our representatives. I'll second the motion. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> This one we're going to do do roll call on it. >> Oh, we're going to do it. Okay. Thank you, Suz. We'll do a roll call.
>> Absolutely. Board member De Bard. >> Uh, since I'm being nominated, I'm not sure if I >> You still have to vote on it. So, you can just say yes. >> I I'll abstain because of the >> You can vote on it. >> Okay, then. >> It's not a conflict. Okay.
>> Yes. Okay. Uh, board member James, >> yes. >> Vice Chair or Yeah. Vice Chair Moser, >> yes. >> Chairman Crystal, >> yes. >> Board member Monero, >> yes. >> Board member Laughlin, >> yes. >> And board member Whan, >> yes. >> Motion passes. >> Thank you very much. It [clears throat]
looks like we've reached the end of our meeting. Any staff update? >> No, not at this time. >> We're good. All right. Uh, like I say, life's like a box of chocolates. So hopefully
a month from now, we all show back up nice and healthy and and I will do a better job. I'll guarantee you that. All right. >> Thank you.