Hello everyone. I'm here. I'm Mayor Elizabeth Fagan and I'm here with Council President Cla to welcome to our Facebook live. We do these quarterly uh and we have various topics and and guests that we bring. So um thank you for joining us. And so tonight is really
about um getting to know our new council president and getting to know uh how local government really works. And um so we're going to run through some questions of sort of basic local government um and what the roles are of the council president, what the roles
are of the common council and and how our how we evolve and how our how our meeting structure um works. >> Well, thank you, mayor. I'm excited to be here and just love talking about local government. >> Thank you for joining me. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, first up is um
>> let's walk through the process of how an item ends up on an agenda at a council meeting. >> There's a lot of behind the-scenes work and that has to happen first. So, let's discuss committees and committee chairs and how the council works directly with the staff during those meetings to hash
out the agenda and the issues that are going to end up on the agenda. >> Terrific. Um there count besides the council president, we've got six members of council. Um which works out to there are six different committees dealing with the different parts of government.
Um we've got finance, we've got to pay the bills. We've got safety, the police, the fire. Um we've got capital projects. It's it's the infrastructure committee. It's huge. Um, we've got we put
community programs, think of that as parks and wreck, together with parking. Um, we've got law and labor because we just need lawyers making sure we're doing it right. And then administrative and communications, sort of the internal
processes. So, six committees, six council members. Every council member sits on two committees. And most of what council looks at in a business meeting comes from one of those committees. Um,
I can keep going because what what the committees look at comes from several different sources. I think of council as um the congress of the city. Um whereas you mayor sort of head up city staff in
a way. I mean the the folks who run the city are the executive department. they they have to keep everything going. So, a lot of what council looks at actually comes from city staff. We have to pay the bills. We have to pave the roads. And council has to approve a lot of
that. Um council members come up with things that go before council. Um for instance, we h we piloted dog parks last year. >> Um and and that bubbled up. It may have come originally from from residents, but
certainly was put forward by council members. And often it's residents who will suggest things to council. Um there's a the procedure is formally called >> discuss, advise, refer, and is referred
to as D. If you've ever heard um D come up in a council me in in the council meeting, >> I thought it was Daughters of the American Revolution, but apparently not. Okay. >> For a long time. Yes. >> Um so for instance, if there's an
intersection near your house that you think is dangerous, they should have a stop sign. Um any resident could send an email, I think, to the city clerk um or to any council member and say, you know, we'd like council to look at this, see
if there's something that can be done. So certainly residents generate a lot of good ideas that council takes a look at. >> So as a resident and I think probably this is a question that a lot of people have if they don't if they're not in the weeds like we are. Um
>> why does it take so long to accomplish these things? Like so it goes to the committee. What does that even mean? And what's the time frame? How often do those committees meet? Right? What does that look like? >> Excellent question. Um in general every committee meets twice a month. Um,
and oh, let's pick let's pick something I did work on last year. Um, we we wrote an ordinance that filled in a gap in state law about dangerous dogs. >> Um, that one actually moved pretty
quickly. It only took a couple of months. >> Wait, that's quick, huh? Okay, >> that that that is quick in in government terms. Um because often more than one committee has to look at look at something before it moves
forward. Um the law and labor committee wrote that ordinance and that took a couple of back and forths. It had to go over to the safety committee because the police the police have to enforce it and have to make sure that it works with their procedures. Sometimes it ends up
if if there's money involved, it can end up in finance. Um but it takes some circling back and forth. Um, and the whole idea of government, I've heard this is, you know, take your time
getting it right and then execute. >> And for a lot of people that have worked in the public sector like the two of us, um, that's incredibly frustrating, is it not? It can be, but the more voices that are involved
um as something moves through the process because >> you're a really smart person, Elizabeth. And >> thanks, Claire. And so are you. >> But between us, we might not have thought of everything. >> Sure. Of course. And there's there's the
the more voices involved, the more you can hash out and and make sure you get it right the first time. >> Agreed. Awesome. >> All right. I think the second question is a little bit we already covered, so I'm going to skip that one, which was basically what goes into the process of how you set the agenda. Um because you
as the council president do actually set the agenda. >> I as the as the council I do get to set the agenda. So, as these things move through the committees and and both both the mayor and I are able to sit in on any committee meeting even though technically we're not members. So, we
keep we we know what's moving. Um and and there are certain things that have to happen at certain times with the budget for example example. >> So, we know the the night we present the budget
that's a big chunk of the meeting. We don't want five other big things on the agenda. So, there's some of that going on. Things have to be ready. Um, occasionally I'll reach out to a committee and say, "I know you're working on this. I I want
to move it up and we've got room in four weeks, so let let's get that done quickly." >> Um, >> excellent. >> Yeah. >> Um, right. So, many residents reach out to us as as their elected officials, right? um when they have a concern or
they think the city has a need. So, let's talk about ways that the residents can bring concerns to us so that they're they're discussed in committees. And one of the things I would I always like to highlight because I think it's a phenomenal resource for um how we get
concerns uh to the appropriate departments is cclick fix, right? >> Or the report a concern button on our website. So, um, let's talk about those two things and then talk about other ways that people can reach out, >> right? Um, see now we we probably use
both I know we both use C click fix. I tend to think of that as best for something needs to get put back to the way it should be. Um, as opposed to let's initiate a new process. Um, for
for example, >> intersection makes me nervous. Um, because those bushes are overgrown and I can't see and I can't see traffic coming from the side. That's perfect for Cquick Fix. Send them out, fix the bushes. >> But if I'm nervous about the
intersection and I think it needs a stoplight, that's a bigger process. I would reach out to a council member or send in a DA D request and have it looked at bigger. I think that's a great um synopsis. I I think of things like um
I walk my dog downtown so or all over town really and you know the um the ADA ramps at the corners those lift often actually I've seen bunch of them and you and the cick fixing >> is the thing that's great about it is you can take a photo right
>> and it knows your location and you can if it if it doesn't figure out where you are you can actually put in the address. So, it allows our crews, our staff to know exactly the location. They see the problem. They can be armed with how to fix it before they even show up. So, just I think that's a big plug for
Cclick Fix. It really is an efficient way for um the 22,000 sets of eyes that live here to be helpful to our to our staff. Right. So, >> and actually to each other >> to each other. Right. Exactly. Awesome. Um let's see what else. Okay, we touched
a second on the budget. Um the bud we're going through the budget process right now. It's a very long process. Why don't you talk a little bit about um when that starts? When do we start talking about ne this year's budget? So 2026's budget is what we're talking about right now. >> Yes.
>> When does that start? How does that start? And what's the process that we're sort of walk us through that process? >> Oh, you're asking me my favorite question. Okay. Um and let's just back up. There are two big parts to the budget. One is the
operating budget, the stuff we have to do to keep the lights on, pay the bills, pay our employees, um you know, fill up all the vehicles, that sort of things. And then there's the capital budget. Um the stuff we build, the infrastructure, the big stuff we buy, the equipment. Um
and although they're both part of the budget, they tend to run on parallel tracks. So the capital budget in particular for 2026 began last summer where the different department heads began
prioritizing their needs, seeing what re what do they really need to do. Um many of them say our police and our fire department buy a certain number of vehicles every year. um we don't want to we don't want to
defer maintenance and you certainly don't want the entire fleet of police cars breaking down in the same year. Um >> that would not work out well. >> That would not work out well. So some of that happens every year and that's actually about a million and a half dollars of just we're going to spend this every year from our capital budget.
But there's other big things too. Um that gets presented to the community in December. Um and it's available on the city website right now under finance. so you can see what everybody wants. Um and then beginning in January when the new
council is sworn in, um our finance committee members are Shantel Landman is the chair, Jackie Lerosina is the other member and we meet weekly, not twice a month. Um department head by department head
walking through all of their their operating budget. that's largely staff, but you know, we have to buy office supplies and all the rest of it. Um, lot of technology and what that's costing.
Um, and we have to get it right. Um, city budgeting is different than you might think your home budget. >> Um, if you actually do budget, you might say have a budget for how much you're going to spend on groceries each year or
each month. The city doesn't do it that way. They have a line item for bananas and a line item for bread and a line item for milk. And if they run through their banana budget by the end of August, they're stuck. They can't buy any more bananas. >> No more bananas.
>> No more bananas. So, you really have to be careful with those buckets. Um, and there are layered on this are many, many state mandates about ways things have to be done. Um, and of course, we're limited.
We can't raise our share of the property taxes on our residents by more than 2% each year, even when inflation is running at 8% when as it was a couple of years ago. >> So, it's super easy to manage is what you're saying. >> Oh, yeah. Piece of cake. >> Cool. Okay, great. Um, one thing you
mentioned was that the capital budget gets presented to the community in December, right? Um, and that presentation, I guess, talk a little bit about how we go from that to what actually gets approved six months later because that presentation is never the
final answer. >> Is never the final answer. Let me let me use as a concrete example what we did last year because it's we finished we're not done yet with this year. Um so the the cap at the capital
budget presentation for the 2025 budget. >> Um I think the wish list came to about $12 million. >> That's about right. >> And then we sat down department chair by department chair and said okay what do you really need?
um what can we you know what what's a wish versus what's a need. Um and then we got down to about 8 million. Um and then we went back to the department chairs and actually went to all the members of council and said, "Okay,
let's prioritize this. We still need to shave it off." And we ended up at about 5.2 million. >> And so similar process every year, right? >> Um with capital. Um and so is there anything else that the public should know? Oh, um one of the pieces of the
process of the budget is is statemandated that we have to present it by a certain date and that there's time between the presentation and the hearing where it gets approved. So speak to that a little bit of that. So that's
>> um so so we are targeting the first council meeting in April to present it. Um, and so that's going to be April 7th if I if I'm doing my math correctly. Um, if a miracle occurs, it
might be March 17th, but but count on April 7th. Um, and then we have to wait 28 days before we can pass it. Um, so that would be the first meeting in May. Um, and to make it even more fun, last year Trenton passed a law that if we if
council willfully refuses to pass a budget, um, we all get personally fined, right, >> for for not doing it. So, there's every incentive to pass a timely budget. >> Pass timely budget, right? And so, let's talk a little bit about um what that
mean that timing means for the way that funds are actually expended as well. >> Um, because that matters too. >> It does. Um, and so what that means is we particularly for the capital for the capital budget is where it
matters. For the operating budget, we're allowed to pass an emergency budget and just keep paying the bills. But until we pass the capital budget in mid to late spring, um, we can't go out and borrow the money to buy the stuff and build the
stuff. Um, last year that took until late summer. We're hoping midsummer this year. Um and for that reason, we have two years to spend our capital budget. Um so, so it's not quite run out and do it
all as fast as you can in the second half of the year. We can cadence it somewhat. >> Excellent. Thank you for the explanation. And um the communications officer just presented me with the 2025 budget snapshot which goes to all the homes in Summit. Um, so please take a
look at this because this sort of um explains it like you're going to explain it to your mother as you're it uh simplifies the budget and the process and it's a four pager does go to all homes in Summit and we always have them in city hall as well. Um just got
dark in here. >> The light just went out. Um, so anyway, this is this does go to all the residents and it's a really nice way to familiarize yourself with um what's kind of in the budget and what the p what the dollar what what your dollar bill goes to and those kinds of things. So um just
keep an eye out for that. That usually comes out >> spring sometime. I think >> it does. Yeah. >> Right around budget introduction. So >> yes. Yes. And and um and as Elizabeth said, they're still available in the city hall. either of us. Well, I would
love to sit down with anybody and walk through it. I I can't speak for you, but numbers are my life. >> I do. I actually enjoy the budgeting process. I didn't think I would, but Okay. It's it's very um enlightening in terms of really what you said, Claire, which is um the priorities of the
department heads and really of of the residents when you because they're responsive to right to what the residents are asking for, what services they're looking for. So, it is it's kind of it's really interesting >> and and
it is hard to overstate how hard our city staff works with a very very lean budget. Um there is there is no fat in there. >> No, no fat at all. Um
so, okay. Well, that I think that was a very um I would say uh elaborate description of the budget process. You did an excellent job. So, thank you for that. >> Thank you. It's a lot of meetings. >> It is. It's a lot of meetings. It is a lot of meetings. A lot of hours. Um but
we have some really intelligent uh well-trained individuals that work for the city that are in charge of this. So, they do an excellent job as well. So, thank you to them. Um, okay. So, little switching gears here, but what advice would you give a resident who's never
engaged with government before? >> Um, I would say take a look at our something like 70 um boards, commissions, committees, and task forces. They are
all on the city website under boards and commissions. There is something for everyone. Um, >> definitely >> if you're interested in recycling, if you're interested in historic buildings, if you're interested in economic
development in sports and recreation, that's how I started. Um, I joined the historic preservation commission maybe in >> Don't give yourself away. >> No, 2011 maybe something. Um, >> excellent. >> Yeah.
>> So, what else? Um I I mean so that's an excellent way to get involved but what about um just learning more? I mean this obviously this Q&A is is I think should be useful for people um but what about um for instance coming to council meetings or watching council meetings
would be an example >> and and absolutely um I mean it's the first and third Tuesday of the month >> um typically with a couple of exceptions and um I know we're going to talk about how a council meeting is structured um
ah >> ah there >> another thing you can do to get involved and to learn more about government and engage is read your newsletter which will come out quarterly. Uh this is >> mine arrived today. >> So did mine and I was very excited to look it over. So it's another
four-pager. It comes in the mail and uh our chief communications officer and our um our communications department put this together. It's a really great way to kind of understand what what's going on at city hall, what we're talking about um as council and mayor. Um, and
you know, there's there's some emergency numbers on here that you can post on your refrigerator if people still do that. Um, and there's things about the free market and and the summit pool and the golf course and all those things. So, it's a really great resource. It is and it's an easy way to kind of learn.
And then on the back, we have upcoming community events, which is really cool. So, >> right. and and what our communications department also does um now on the Friday before a council meeting, so that's four days in advance, is when the
the the council agenda is made public and the communications office puts out on Facebook sort of a preview of like the top three things that council will be discussing or looking at that night. Um you can watch out for that. If something um interests you, you can
actually go on the city website. The agenda has all of the the documentation backing it up um and and come to council and find out about what we're talking about. >> Or you can watch it on YouTube. >> You can watch it on YouTube. >> HTTV,
>> right? You watch it live on HGTV. Um, pro tip on YouTube, you can speed it up to at least 1.75 times and it doesn't distort the sound >> and that's valuable when you have 4hour meetings. >> It is.
>> So, there's that. I suggest I recommend watching it at home with popcorn. I think it's an excellent excellent viewing viewing situation. Um, okay. So, so those are some good things. >> Right. Now, are we going to talk about residents participating in meetings? Oh,
yeah. Absolutely. >> Because I thought that that was on there, too, because I'm sure it um >> because for the council passes ordinances, which are, you know, laws that are going to stick around for a while, resolutions that that are sort of
quick hits on something. Um the public can speak to both of those. They can also at the end of the meeting there's a public comment section um where residents members of the public can speak about whatever they want um you
know for three minutes um >> and >> it's a great that's that's probably one of the places I think a lot of people begin to get involved right um or begin to kind of engage is there um and often I find that >> those the the individuals that come and
speak public um during public comment often end up being, you know, a follow-up email or a phone call because they've asked a question. It's not a back and forth. Um, and so, you know, we follow up with them and answer their questions. And, you know, a lot of times
that develops into a relationship around trying to just make this place a little bit better. >> Right. And and and and often folks come up and they've got great ideas that we didn't think of. >> So, that's a great way to share. >> Right. Absolutely. >> All right. Awesome. Thank you.
>> Um, okay. What else? Um, what are some >> Oh, well, we talked a little bit about ways residents can get more information. So, the website is one that we didn't really talk about, but obviously that's one thing, right? Um, the quarterly newsletter, which is great. Um, something social media, which you
mentioned, um, FA Facebook and Instagram, very active there. Um and then uh make sure that you sign up for NIXL alerts which are emergency alerts, right? And then um notifications from on our website. You can get notified about
when the packet comes out, when the council agenda comes out, right? Right. You can get notified about >> all kinds of things when the board of health is meeting, when the you know, all of the things that might be interesting to you and you can sort of >> cherry pick what things are are valuable
to to your life. So, um, >> and and actually if you want come come to city hall for for any particular purpose, um, there's a lot of brochures and backup information there if you if you're the person who just likes to read real paper. That fair enough.
Um, okay. So, let's see. Um, we talked a little bit about boards and commissions and committees, right? Um, >> sort of who runs them, that they're all volunteers. We didn't say that so much. >> They are >> these are amazing jobs. They just don't pay very well
>> like at all. They don't pay at all. >> We should double our salaries. >> I you know my salary has been doubled every day for the last two years and I'm still making the same for the kids at home. What's the number? >> Yeah. >> Um so they're volunteers though and and
so you mentioned um about going on the website and you can you can apply. there's a there's an application to apply to be a volunteer and that process is easy and then um every annually those those lists are looked at um if a vacancy comes up in the middle of the
year we talk about that we try to fill that so um you know it's never too late to submit a volunteer application right um and we're always looking for people and we're always looking for people who are passionate about a topic because those are the people that are going to do the work >> absolutely
>> awesome um okay so if a request is made for instance um somebody wants a new flashing beacon. We love those flashing beacons in some don't we? >> So what's the process? How does that >> how does that go? Like are there studies? Is there data? What what
happens? >> Um I actually spoke to our city engineer about this because we were going to talk about flashing beacons. Okay. >> There is a study. Um it's an engineering study. So it's um it can be done in house. Um but does it make sense? Is
there a need for it? Um and and he did say that if there's already a crosswalk, it is easier to justify the flashing beacon. Um >> that makes a lot of sense. >> It makes a lot of sense. Um and and you know, assuming that that we decide the
flashing beacon is appropriate, then of course got to pay for it, go out and buy it. Um we've got >> those things are not cheap. >> They're not cheap. We do we do have an annual pedestrian safety budget. Um, but it's not unlimited. And then, um, it has
to be installed. Um, and just another fun fact that I've learned in in city government is, you know, a lot of this stuff can't happen in the winter. It has to hit a certain temperature to pour concrete, >> right? >> It does. That's true.
>> So, so yes. Um, it's it's amazing what you learn in city government, isn't it? >> It is. So, so we see a lot of these go up in the spring and summer months. >> Um, and as long as we're talking about flashing beacons, I always feel the need to remind people to use them.
>> A, use them. And B, don't assume traffic is going to stop. >> Still look both ways before you >> just head out into that crosswalk. >> That's that's an excellent PSA. I like to remind people to put their phones down when they're walking across a crosswalk. And actually what we learned
when we were growing up when you cross the street was to stop and look both ways before you step off the curb. So just a little reminder. But yeah, it's funny. So our engineer our engineer says those flashing beacons, everybody loves them. They want them >> and then he'll sit and watch a crosswalk
and nobody pushes the button. >> Well, what? They don't work. They don't help unless you use them. So Right. Right. And they are expensive. So we want to make sure that they're in working order. Right. So, back to Cclick Fix, >> right? >> If you see a be rapid flashing beacon
that's not working or it's funky in some way, snap a photo, put it on Cclick fix. Um, it'll it'll get fixed. A lot of times, I will say this came up today in a meeting and I can't remember which meeting I was on. Probably doesn't matter. Um but essent there sometimes it
takes it's a delay for that something like that to get fixed because the technology needs to be replaced or there's a part that's missing or or you know broken. So sometimes it's not an immediate fix like um something like trees getting trimmed is you know that's going to be a more immediate fix than a
rapid flashing beacon that's not working but >> but still use cicklic fix. >> Yes absolutely. All right, let's see. Um, okay. So, for those who have never been to a council meeting, we invite you to join us. >> Oh, yeah. >> But what does it look like? What's the
format? >> Okay. Um, I mean, there there's some very there's some preliminary things that happen before we get down to business. I mean, there's the pledge. Um we have high school students present the
historical minute. Um each meeting gives us a little background um on summit's history topical to whatever we're celebrating that month. Um >> Leila Green did an excellent one.
Very impressive young lady. >> Yes. Yes. For Black History Month. um the mayor um you city administrator and I each give reports. They're they're focused a little differently. You get to talk about the fun stuff. Our city administrator talks about what city
hall's doing. I tried to talk about what council's doing. Um we'll often have a presentation. Um so at the last council meeting um our affordable housing attorney gave us brought us up to date on what's happening with our affordable
housing plan. That could be a twohour Facebook live. >> Yes, it could. >> Um but but last month um the police chief updated us on crime statistics, things like that. Um and then the
council will if we have ordinances for for introduction, we'll introduce new ordinances. Um they're introduced in one meeting and then discussed in the subsequent meeting. Um so then if we've had ordinances that were introduced at
the prior meeting, talk about those again. Members of the public get to speak about them, council members get to speak about them, we vote. Um, we go through the same process for resolutions. Um, and then there's something called the
consent agenda, which is the real just sort of the stuff we have to do just to keep the city functioning every week and it's not controversial. Um, and then there's the opportunity for the public to comment and then council members can give remarks often talking about
projects they're working on or what they're looking forward to. >> Thank you. One thing that we didn't we haven't done I don't think this year yet um but proclamations sometimes um there's a special event so >> Oh yes you get to honor people
>> do I get to honor people I get to do the fun stuff um so sometimes I will issue a proclamation um we always do one for like the first aid squad right um for um first responder it's uh what's I forget what the actual >> title of the proclamation is or whatever
but um you know sometimes times uh an organization that's been in town a long time is celebrating a big birthday, right? Um so we honor them and they have representatives that come and we give them a pretty piece of paper that has a pockation on it and um it's nice. So >> and you get to read it and
>> I get to read it. There's a lot of where's in it. >> Hey, that that's what keeps lawyers in business. Um and at the end of the year, you get to honor the volunteer of the year. >> I do. I do. >> That's a pretty cool one, too. >> That's a very cool one. Um and actually we'll give her a shout out since you
mentioned it. Um Donna Gagen Patel was the volunteer of the year this past I honored her in December. So right she has been an amazing volunteer. Speaking of volunteers um for the environmental commission. She is somebody who is passionate and really does the work.
She's been instrumental in the tiny forest. Um so that's a yeah that's a a great thing that we get to do at council meetings as well. Um, >> what else? Anything else? Council meetings. I think that's really it. >> That's pretty much it. >> That's pretty much it. >> Yeah. Sometimes they last seven hours.
>> Well, that's when we have a really engaged. Exactly. >> I mean, yes, you know, staff, there are pe there are people who who are passionate about things. >> Wait, in summit? >> What? >> No. All right. Um last question I have
prepared um in advance is um as council president >> in in your very very long stint the last five and a half weeks >> what do you find most challenging and then what do you find most exciting? >> Um right now my challenge is getting to
learn everything at once. Um I had mentioned these these committees. Um last year as a member of council I served on two and now certainly to start with I'm trying to attend meetings of
all six really to make it's it's a lot and there's just a lot a lot of meetings. Um >> and I love the in person. I spent way too much of my career staring at a screen. Um
>> but then when I do look at his screen, >> the number of emails is terrifying. So um learn learning how to j relearning how to juggle just a different set of priorities than I had in my professional life. Um
>> but the exciting part is getting to make a difference. And I mean, I have always loved, and I'm sure all of us have, um, you know, when we campaign, we're talking to residents at the door. You're hearing what people really care about.
And it's not the craziness and the anger that may be floating around up there. It's I want my kid to be able to walk to school and we need a sidewalk there. Y >> or something like that. My trash needs to get picked up. Recycling needs to get
picked up or >> downtown needs to look pretty and you know >> well taken care of, >> right? >> We need to be safe. >> Our schools need to be good, right? It's those and we can all agree on all those. >> Absolutely. And we get the opportunity
to do it and to serve our neighbors >> and that's something I'm really passionate about. That's a good thing because you spend a lot of time doing >> um >> Okay. All right. Um so,
>> thank you. Actually, I have one little tidbit. So, I'm going to turn this a little personal so we can get a little glimpse into Claire Toe, Council President. >> Oh, gosh. >> The person um What do you like to do for fun? >> Oh,
in your in your spare time that you don't have any of anymore. spare time. Okay. Well, >> I know one answer. >> We know one answer because Elizabeth and I met golfing and she's by far the better athlete. Um I'm in it for the giggles and the clothes.
>> Same. Oh, not the clothes. Not so much, but the giggles for sure. >> The giggles for sure. Um >> so, so I do love that. Um >> I' I've just found I love being in social settings. I do I still do some
volunteer work that tends to be um >> that tends to be very social. >> Um I've started playing pickle ball. >> Oh, that's fun. >> Which is Yes. I'm I'm in it for the fun. >> Well, that actually we can talk about pickle ball courts. We have those in Summit.
>> Yay. >> I bet you're not playing outside right now. >> I'm not a guest. >> I'm not playing outside, but but I do take advantage of the drop in pickle ball at the community center. Yeah. Um, and I've met a lot of really wonderful people there. Um, and and now they all
call me to tell me they want their trash picked up. >> Right. >> Well, I mean, it's a basic need. >> Yes. Yes. Um, you know, but but I mean, if if we're talking about those sorts of things, that's that's that's where you
excel. I mean what what Elizabeth gets to the mayor is the police commissioner and one of the coolest things I think you get to do as police commissioner. Um every year there is a golf tournament between the police departments of Summit and >> Mil. That is fun. The battle of the
badges. >> The battle of the badges. And Elizabeth gets to play in it. I so envy that one. >> That's that is kind of a cool perk of the job. But >> so yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Anything else you want to share with the public while we while I have you?
>> Um, I have office hours um Mondays 3:00 to 5:00 down in council chambers. Um, that's just to the right of the council room. And um if you can't make it, then email me. We'll find another time. >> And I'm always available by appointment,
too. So, you know, >> you have your own office. So, >> I do. I have my own beautiful office. Come by and see me. It's really nice. >> It really is. >> Well, thank you very much for being here. I think this was great and um I hope that >> it was fun, >> right? We'll do it again. >> I hope that the public learned something
about municipal government that they didn't know before. Thanks for joining us. Have a great night. >> Thank you.