All right. I hereby call to order this regularly scheduled meeting of the Sunderland Select Board. The time is 6:32 p.m. All right. Our first order of business tonight, as usual, is to approve the minutes of our previous two meetings. And that would be for 9:22 and 106.
>> And I apologize, we ended up not getting the minutes. >> All righty. We will do that next time then. All right. Uh, new business. First up, we have the Greenfield Cooperative Bank one day liquor license. Any discussion from the board on that? No. All righty. At this time, I'd
entertain a motion to grant and approve the one day liquor license application from Greenfield Cooperative. >> I motion we approve the one-day liquor license for Greenfield Cooperative. >> Second. >> We have a motion made and seconded. All those in favor? >> I. >> I. Three nothing. Becky. Thank you.
>> All right. Up next, we have uh Teddy Smarowski. Uh two-day licenses. one for a one day liquor license and one for a one-day entertainment license uh for his annual potato festival. Any discussion or questions on that? No. >> No.
>> No. Um it was a lot of fun. It went last year, so I encourage folks to check that out. Um at the time, I'd entertain a motion to approve the one-day liquor license and the one-day entertainment license for the Teddy Sowski Potato Festival. >> Motion to approve the one-day liquor
license and entertainment license for Teddy Samari. Second. >> All right, we have a motion made and seconded. All those in favor? >> I I >> I three nothing. Thank you very much. All righty. Next up is the South County Senior Center update. Dan, would you like to tell us a little bit about what
happened last time? >> Uh, well, I've getting second feedback um that we're basically still working through it and we're going to hold off on the special town meeting. Um, and we're still negotiating trying to figure out all the cost. Uh, it looks like we're going to thinking about trying to
build it into a lease rather than having a capital request. So, it's kind of a longer term, but we're just trying to work our way into the building first and then work on work on the rest is any improvements as we go forward. >> Wonderful. And just for clarity, that means that we would then be looking at that approval at our town meeting in the
spring. >> Yes. >> Okay. Beautiful. Wonderful. >> Anything you want to add to that? >> Um I had I called um the Deerfield Town Administrator to get an update because I wasn't at the Thursday meeting. um and
their assistant TA was there and the feedback was what Dan is reporting. Dan was a little uncertain. So I was they I was checking with other towns too to be certain >> and Deerfield will be passing over their
uh special town meeting article regarding the South County senior, >> but they're still having a special meeting. >> They're still having a special town meeting. They have a number of needs. >> And what about Weightley? I called. I did not hear from Whitley. >> Okay. >> Because I believe
>> um because these special town meetings were all scheduled, they were trying to get the ambulance onto those. >> Oh boy. Well, they're only passing over that article. So they still >> But then now we don't have a special
town meeting >> for the ambulance warrant. That needs to be done in which time frame window does that have to be done by December. >> Okay.
>> So, have they met has the ambulance have they met with finance committee to even see a finance? You haven't that hasn't been >> that hasn't happened yet. >> Is there a date for that? >> Um I haven't said it yet but it could happen within you know a few days.
>> Okay. If there's Yeah. And we haven't gotten your report back from the meeting, >> right? Well, we need, you know, I saw the emails and stuff that he asked for a meeting with finance. >> Yeah. >> So, um
>> and I and I reached out to capital planning. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, it sounds like we kind of need to know the outcome of the finance committee meeting with them to be able to determine if we need to move ahead with a >> special county. >> Okay.
>> Which we could still set next week or the week after. >> Yeah. >> But that would push it out. We'd have to stay within the window that Josh needs um that EMS needs. So, I'll have to contact him and find out what that is. >> Okay.
All right. Let's um >> on that one until next week then and then we'll have more information on that then. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And we can talk about um >> we have another agenda item about the special town meeting coming up. >> Do indeed. All right. So we can revisit
that when we get down to that part then. All right. Any other uh discussion on the South Fenny um senior center right now? I know we'll be talking about the Okay. All right. All right. Next up is the review of the ZBA peer review contract with Zen Engineer or Zenir. I'm
not sure how I pronounced that. >> Zen Engineer, I think. >> Zen Engineer. All right. Um, do you want to give us a little bit of background on that? >> Um, so Bucky Sparkles is a longtime uh engineer. We are looking for him to do
uh a very deep uh dive and study um storm water review of the storm water report that we rece that the ZBA received. So the ZBA is the one that are asking for this. There should be a check
arriving from um Cavo Development Corps to pay for it as they are the applicant under um chapter 53G. The requirement is if there is a a zoning board or zoning
issue that requires more technical study um that the applicant is required to pay for that. And so they are they should be um submitting the check and we should um be moving forward with the work that
Bucky is going to do. There were three responses. Um I had something happen I've never had happen before. I had one of the the person who did not get the bid um compliment the person who did and said
he was he was very good at his work and that he thought it was good that the job was going to him. >> Buckyy's good. I'll say I'll say Buckyy's good. >> So I don't know I don't know the consultant Bucky Sparkles but um
apparently he has a good reputation. So just to confirm what I'm hearing is that we're approving the contract, but there's no cost to the town because it's being absorbed by the applicant. >> Correct. >> So it's just a approval. It's not a requisition. Okay. Wonderful. Always like those. Those are much easier than
coming up with the money as well. Um any questions from the board on that one. >> All right. At the time I entertain a motion to approve the contract with Zener. Um as outlined before. Motion to approve the contract with engineer
>> second. >> All right, we have a motion made and seconded. All those in favor? >> I I >> I three nothing. Thank you very much. All righty. Uh next up is review appointment of staff p of staff support person. Um as if you'll hand that down
to Nathaniel as um I had moved ahead um too quickly without getting the approval from the board but we were in a pinch. We had a person leaving for
um a long time uh away from u being in her position. It's up to three months. We're hoping she'll be back in about six weeks. Um, we located somebody, a retired um, person who um, knew someone
in the office and I talked with her and we got her um, she was readily available and was able to work the hours. Um she had a business not a not an office job but she's done technical work um and is
very good with numbers and has been a real asset in filling the resource admin's um hours in the morning. Um what provoked the the real concern was the
first week that Moren was out was the um she left on the 15th and from the 15th to the 1st of October is the biggest traffic for people bringing their checks in and um so there's more pressure on the front desk.
>> Gotcha. Okay. Um and in terms of uh the financing for this that's all figured out. >> Yes. It's um there the position is 16 hours a week. So, it's unbenefited. >> When the person's not working, they don't get paid. So, the salary was
available to pay um the other person, and it's um a little bit less. So, it's >> Okay. All right. Any questions from the board on this? >> No. >> All right. Uh at the time, I would entertain a motion to approve the appointment of uh Dana, is it ROR?
>> Yes. Dana Ror um to the position of town office park building part-time temporary support staff. >> I motion we approve Dana Romer or we approve the appointment of Dana Romer for the part-time temporary support staff.
>> Second. >> All right, we have a motion made and seconded. All those in favor? >> I. >> I. Three nothing. Thank you very much. All righty. Um next up is back to our good old discussion about the special town meeting. So, we had planned on having today be a finalization of the timing of
that and the what we would want to have in terms of warrant articles. Um, given the news about the senior center, the time crunch part of that is a little bit lessened. Now, I know we do have the ambulance and a couple of other items that we were going to include there. Um,
but we were really pressed for time in terms of the the deadlines for that. Um so from our discussion 10 minutes ago it seems like what makes the most sense is um get the finance committee to meet with them ASAP so we have an idea whether this is even something that we
can you know from their perspective move forward with um and then either in one week or two weeks depending on how the scheduling works out we would be able to set a permanent you know pick a pick an actual date and and move forward with that. um trying our absolute best to see
if we can accomplish all of those things without necessitating actually holding the town meeting. Um unless that's you know obviously necessary for the >> ambulance or whatever. >> Yeah, I think that EMS requires that. So >> yeah. >> Yeah. So I believe well we can either
wait till select board updates or we can kind of do it now just with part of the town meeting discussion. Weightley has decided to move forward with the purchase of this ambulance. All their people have met and so has Steerfield.
>> Okay. So, it's basically done with us. All right. That's good information to have. Um, and just remind me on the timing, they're looking to make this decision by end of this year or >> Yes. Have the year. >> Yeah. Because it would be taking
delivery of it in the first quarter of Okay. >> 2026. >> Okay. and I'll call him to find out the date. I think if we could even if we pushed it, if we push it out a week, that's the
Friday before Thanksgiving week, the 21st, and then I don't know if you want to consider December dates. >> Yeah. I mean, find out what he needs for timing when everybody can meet with him.
Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because if nobody, we don't know what when anyone's going to be able to meet. So, >> so we need and I had reached out to the finance committee and I haven't heard back. So, >> okay.
>> Talk to her. I'll call her tomorrow. >> Right. And if you need to reach out via email to us to discuss between now and next meeting, that's fine. So, >> probably text on this. >> Exactly. Um All right. and we we will be as flexible as we can about that while
doing our due diligence. All right, any other discussion on the special town meeting. All righty. Uh next up, our last item of new business is the green communities grant application for Sunderland Elementary School upgrade to their building management system. Um and this
is the building management system that we have talked about quite a bit for the last couple of years. Um, I believe didn't Deerfield just update their system last year or something like that. >> Yeah, all the towns in the district have done it except for us, >> which is why we thought this would make
a great green communities project. >> Yes, absolutely. Um, all right. Um, is there anything you guys want to tell us about that or? >> Yeah. So, I'm David Good. I'm chair of the Sunderland Energy Committee. >> The whole energy. >> I'm here with everybody. We have Meg, Aaron, and Laura, which you probably know a lot of them. Um, so the green
communities grant program we've applied for in the past. We've got monies in the past. I don't think we have submitted anything in the last in the last year cycle. But anyway, so we got a really early start on this proposal and it's
due Wednesday. That's how long this thing has been dragging on. Uh we've been working with Kyle Hower who's with the Advanced Energy Group who's an Eversource contractor. Uh we've been working with Bill Hilddrath, the building supervisor for the district, and Ben Barsky, the principal of at the
elementary school. I just got the information from Kyle about an hour and a half ago. So, we're really under a pretty severe deadline here. He assures me that it can be done, but let me give you a quick scope of what the project is going to entail.
Uh it's to replace the outdated building management system BMS. Uh remove the non-functioning system. We'll use and tell me if this is too much information. I will use a Schneider Electric Ecosstructure using Schneider Electric
MP series BACNET and IP controllers. So that's impressive, right? >> Those are words. >> They are words. That's about all I can say about it too. Also in it's includes lighting control. So there's seven major components of this grant proposal. The first is the automated server. Um the
second is the power supply module. Third is conversion of two hot water boilers. Fourth conversion of two hot water pumps. Fifth is the conversion of six heat and ventilation units. Sixth is the conversion of six exhaust fans. And
seventh is conversion of one domestic hot water system. Uh he estimates that it's about 38 hours of software labor, 80 hours for post project retrocommissioning and all the electric work. Um and the project will utilize as
much of the existing control peripherals peripherals as possible. Uh and only the controllers and the temperature sensors will be replaced. He did state in this proposal that any peripherals that fail that aren't part of the scope are the responsibility of
the town because they don't know if they're going to hold up to the new system, I guess. Um, Sunderland's cost. Oh, okay. So, it includes staff training and a one-year warranty. So, the entire
project is about $189,000. There's about $25,000 worth of Eversource incentives. So, what the grant will be asking for is about $164,000. Uh Kyle stressed to me today when I
talked to him on the phone that this is just a proposal. There's no obligation. We submit it to the green communities program. If they accept it, great. You know, we can say, "Okay, we want to move forward with this or we don't." at that point uh they may come back and say we
like it but let's alter it in this way and this way and that way so it kind of begins a negotiation. >> He said his experience is that they've been funding projects pretty well you know logically but that's kind of where it stands. So
what we're looking for tonight is to get select board approval so that the energy committee can then take the next steps and try to get this application submitted by Wednesday. Just for it sounds like if this is funded at the what we're asking for there wouldn't be any actual cost to the
town >> assuming all the peripherals will hold up. Yeah. >> But it potentially so we potentially could see the over upfront cost all being covered by the resource grant some amount of money for peripherals. >> All that being said I'm also a member of the capital spending committee and this
was going to be something we were going to do anyways. So if we can get grant money for it, hey >> and other towns use the same exact system that they want to put in here. >> So it seems to me like a pretty positive project to move forward with. >> Oh, absolutely. Especially whenever you
can get grant money town is I'm always that. >> Did Kyle mention what the payback period is? >> We did not talk about that. >> Not talk about that because that's one thing green communities is very >> they pay attention to that a lot. >> Yeah. And we've had projects that we
propose not get funded because the payback period didn't fit into their specifications. >> That's why I'm curious what and sometimes they'll agree to fund partial projects and not the entire one. So that's something we need to take into consideration because
>> right >> likely if they're not funding the whole project, we can't go through with it. >> Do you know when they would decide that? Um, usually it's the end of the spring. >> Okay. I'm just trying to place it in
terms of town meeting and whether or not we would because let's say they didn't partially fund it. If it's after town meeting, we can't partially fund the rest of it, you know? >> Um, so Okay. >> So, there's no obligation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. Um, keeps updated obviously. Um, any questions
from the the board on this? >> No, it sounds great. Hope we get it. >> Hope you do. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I said anything you guys do to help save money to the town is music to our ears. Um, at the time I'd entertain a motion to give the select board's blessing for the energy committee to go ahead with their grant proposal.
>> I motion we give our blessing for the energy committee to go ahead with um a grant proposal for BMS for the elementary school. >> Second. All right, we have a motion to meet and second >> and we'll know how that works.
>> All those in favor? All right. >> I may need your signature on the final application. >> Yep. Just >> um >> bring it to maybe >> during the day. >> Yeah, I can I can on Wednesday.
>> Um worst case scenario, we need a docu center or something like that and make that work. But um if you can get it Tuesday night, that would be even better. Um, >> oh, this is it an online submittal? >> Yep. Come by. >> And I believe the application I mean the
signature has to be on a on a sheet that you upload. >> I believe that's correct. >> Yeah. Um, if you could send the sheet right away, then you know, just send it to Nathaniel and he could send it back to you so you have it.
>> I don't know how I get that to you. >> Just email it. >> Yep. Okay. I don't have an email address. >> I will if I I don't remember my email address. >> It's Nathaniel Wearing at sele the town of Sunderland US. >> Oh, it's actually just wearing N. >> Oh, it is.
>> Yeah. So, right. >> W A R I N G letter N at all one word. Town of Sunderland. >> Yeah. >> US. Okay. Um, that's also if for some reason you lost it or couldn't get through,
that's also on our town website as well. Okay. As well as Becky's contact information. Worst case scenario, it'll be sent to Becky. You should >> And you need just the one signature. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, the way I left it with Kyle is I was going to communicate with him after this meeting just to say that the select board is on board and then we'll
start the process. I'll convey that to him and >> hopefully you run into trouble. Oh, I'll be out um in the later part of the day. Call, you know, call me on my cell phone. >> Okay. You want to give me your number? >> Yeah. 413
>> 387 >> 387 >> Mhm. 3708. >> 3708. Okay, great. Hopefully, you won't hear from me, >> but I've put them in before if you have. >> Okay. >> Great. >> Thank you all.
>> We will make it work for sure. >> Appreciate it. >> Wonderful. Well, thank you guys very much for bringing this to us. Um, and thank you for taking one thing that was on my long list of capital planning issues this year off my plate. So, thank you. Appreciate it. >> Glad to help. >> Just as an aside note, October happens
to be the 20th year that the energy committee has been in existence. We were appointed by this board in October of 2005. >> Great. Well, great work so far. Thank you very much for all you. We really appreciate it. >> Great. >> All 20 years.
>> You've been out since the beginning. you learn a few things you learn a few things in >> and thank you for your work. >> It's a pleasure. >> All right, so I believe that's all of our new business today. Uh under old business, we have select board updates.
Um just a quick note um that this past week we didn't meet, but it was um Columbus Day and um Indigenous People's Day. And so just a acknowledgement of that. Um as well as a u thank you for all of the members of the Franklin
County and surrounding areas for um showing up at the various um no marches for um this past weekend. So that's it for me. Anything from you Crystal? >> So um just the ambulance
little more um on that um they would be able to take delivery of this ambulance. you know, it's projected first quarter. >> It would likely, you know, depending on when the next ambulance that they've been waiting, you know, it's close to 3
years now. Um, that will likely come in 2026 also. >> Mhm. their their thought would be, you know, getting never having an ambulance more than 9 years old. So, you
know, you'd have an ambulance that would move to the second ambulance, then it would move to the third, but every 3 years, you know, purchasing a new ambulance. This kind of puts two of them really close. But the ambulances they
currently have are very old, very high mileage. Um, they're going over budget on maintenance and repairs and stuff to these ambulance due to the age of them. Um,
you know, this kind of, like I said, frontloads that rotation that they would like to get into, but it is a really good deal. Um, and
we're we're really kind of in need of an ambulance. >> So, what I would would want to see or would propose is given that we're buying two of them basically the same time, we want to get on a 9-year schedule where every 3 years we're getting rid of one, but we have
two that are basically the same age. And what I would propose is that as sort of a stop gap meet in the middle kind of proposal, one of the two goes 12 years, the second one goes nine years so that we are aren't either that or 9 years from now we're replacing two or we're
replacing one of these after 6 years when we've only had it for six, right? >> You know, like so so and obviously that's that's a good decision. >> Yeah. So that you know that's all stuff that you know we'll have a discussion around it. The thing is,
you know, you got to weigh it out, right? Right now, you know, roughly a 20-year-old ambulance, they're given $5,000 trade in. On a six-year-old ambulance, would you get
>> enough of a trade in to make, you know, to get yourself back on schedule? >> Yeah. No, I see what you're saying. >> You know, it it's all stuff. Some of it you can't figure out until the the time happens, right? But you do definitely are going to have a better tradein
value. >> Mhm. >> You won't be getting to that maintenance point on that vehicle where it is 9 years old and needs that additional m. So, >> and how old are our current ones? Cuz we have three right now, right? And one of them is sort of like the backup one that
we don't use. >> Yeah. That's like the the 20-year-old one that's you know um >> I want to say again and don't I can't say 100% for sure but they're in the 10year range >> is
>> you know they're not new. >> So if if we were already operating under the 9 years cycle all three of them would be gone. So yeah. No, it makes sense. Um >> I'm just trying to figure out a way to get the most bang for our buck and not have to go replacing another vehicle 6 years from now. Yeah. So I'm just, you
know, maybe we maybe we end up >> doing something where like one of them we go 10 years, another one we go eight years and we make it work. >> Exactly. And I'm sure, you know, again, this is one of those opportunities. This ambulance is available. They have to let
them know, you know, obviously whether or not we're going to take it because if we're not going to take it, >> they need to sell it. And it is less money than the ambulance that's currently on order. Um, you know, that we still haven't
received. Um, and you know, it's it's an opportunity to get something in and functioning and >> yeah, >> in better condition. >> Now, this maybe is an even question for
us as much as it is for the budget cycle and for the finance committee, but um is this something that we would be doing a exclusion on for some period of time? Is there something that the town would tell me this? >> There's enough money in retained earnings to fully
>> fun. I said I remember that you were telling us last time. >> There's enough money to fully fund it in retained earnings. It puts retained earnings low. >> And so next year's budget is going to be harder because we'll have less retained earnings coming in to offset that. And
you know again there's discussion right now no decisions made by any means but is should retained earnings even be used to offset that or should retained earnings start you know really going
into funds for replacing ambulances in the future and building you know >> instead of doing it on the backs of the camps. >> Yeah. No, I I >> I'm actually in that same camp to be
honest of it' be much better if they could be as self-sufficient and self-sustaining as possible and only be coming to us for the budget needs, not for the ambulances and the equipment and the >> right. So again, you know, no 100% set in stone
decisions have been made, but like I said, there's there's discussion with how do you really what's the best use of those retained earnings? >> Mhm. >> At the end of the day, we're probably paying the same amount, right? If >> Yeah. And we're paying for the island or
we're paying for it in the in the cost, >> right? So would probably have a more stable line item for ambulance operating costs if we're not funding this equipment and
they're taking ambulances and building additions and things like that out of the retained earnings bucket. Well, and having a 9-year 333 plan with the ambulances, that means that basically what we have is two low budget years and a high budget year and then two low budget
years and a high budget year every 3 years for perpetuity. Or we have a middle of the road budget every year, you know, and we don't see it as much. And I think honestly from a town perspective trying to make that work every 3 years that's a real hit to the towns having to come up with the extra
money and it be much more reasonable and realistic for us if we know that no that's just it costs a third more every year than you know >> right >> so you know like I said it's all discussions but um you know we looked at the specs on the ambulance it you know
they are positive it's going to you know as positive as they can be that you know from the specs and stuff it looks like it's going to be. >> Now, it doesn't have the same specs as the one we ordered cuz we got a special order that went with exactly what we wanted. But with it, this one has within this close enough of a range of the
equipment that you're happy with it. >> So, again, is this the only difference? No. But it's an example of the type of differences there are. Your cabinet doors on an ambulance,
>> you can have them clear glass or frosted glass. So they didn't pick the clear glass or the frosted glass. This is what came through as stock. >> Mhm. >> You can have it's stuff like that. You could
>> Yeah. I don't know what color the car is, but does it have a standard or an automatic? Like >> So when you order it, you pick the color of your lenolum or tile or whatever on your floor, you know, your vinyl flooring. >> Well, this comes with a stock color. you don't get the opportunity to pick it.
You don't pick the color of your seats, you know. >> But again, that's all stuff that like I don't really care about. If it was like it's missing a defibrillator or something like vastly important that the other one was going to have, that would be a concern. But as long as it's just cosmetic mostly and that kind of thing,
then >> yeah, you know, it's I'm sure there's some slight configuration things, you know, whether and again I don't even know this for sure, but you know, when you open up the cabinet, does it have three shelves or four shelves?
>> Okay. So, I guess my only question on that is, and the answer is nothing. We're good to go as it is. is what would it take for Saddle County to retrofit this if we got delivery and it didn't have X Y and Z. >> So, and that's that that was that was
asked, you know, will it need any modifications once it gets here? There are a couple things that no ambulance comes with, even the ones that we're getting the power lift for the stretcher, things like that. That's a, you know, that gets >> the ambulance gets delivered and then
that gets custom mounted and stuff in it. So >> that's an aftermarket kind of thing. >> Yeah. >> Understand like between the two we're looking at here if if we had to put another 5,000 to get this one up to this one, you know, I'd want to know that. But as long as that's not the case, then >> that's not the case. Yeah. It's the the
the stretcher, the power lift and stuff like that. Yeah. >> Okay. Great. Dan, do you have any questions on on this? All right. Well, we will uh hear from the finance committee and see how it goes. But all right. Uh Dan, do you have any uh
updates for us? >> I don't this week. >> Wonderful. Other than what we were talking about this year. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um town administrator updates. Becky, you have anything for us tonight? Um, the one thing I do have for you is I have asked um Diane
Ro, I'm sorry, Diane Bishop to do some um just a few hours of work with Steve Nome power just to help him get more comfortable in a couple areas that I'm not familiar with. Okay. >> And the board, the assessors voted to
use their funds um to do that. >> That was my question. So, all right. Wonderful. Um, any questions on that for for >> No. >> Anything else? All righty. That is all of our old business today. Uh, we have no correspondence. A public comment. I see
we have a gentleman here. >> Oh, this is Steve Croll, the chair of the ZBA. He's here for the executive session. Correct. >> Well, then we'll talk to you in a couple minutes then. Wonderful. Um, I don't see anybody online or otherwise, so we will say there's no public comment today. Um,
next up, we have an executive session planned for tonight. Um, executive session for reason number three to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining or litigation if an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the bargaining or litigating position of the public body and the chair so declares in this case the
dollar general lawsuit KO Development Group LLC versus Town of Sunderland Smith, J. Um, we will go into executive session. When we are done with executive session, we will return to public session just to close the meeting at which point the meeting will be adjourned.
Okay. Um, I'm just giving Michael a minute. He I just texted him to let him know that we're ready to go into executive session and he's just going to come in. >> Um, >> how do we >> I don't think
>> Keep There's nobody else on, right? So, yeah, we'd have y'all >> Yeah. >> off there and we stop recording over here. >> Yes, I'll turn that off. Well, we won't because Michael will be on here. I'll stop it. >> Just the recording the the the the Zoom. Yes. But we turn the recording off because it's
>> and not allow anyone else in, right? >> Which they have to approve them anyways. So we just we just won't. All right. Um so I believe we also need a roll call vote for going into executive session. >> So at this time I would entertain a roll call vote for moving to session. >> Hi. Crystal Drake. Hi Dan Murphy. I
>> Nathaniel Wearing. All right. That is 3 nothing for executive session. The time is 7:07 and we are good for Thank you very much.