--------- We're ready, ma'am. >> Okay. Good evening, everyone. It is 6:34. If everyone could please take your seat and calling the meeting to order. >> Hey, Commissioner Cyan. Oh, excuse me.
Commissioner Joseph, >> present. >> Commissioner Lama >> here. Vice Mayor Viscara >> here. >> Commissioner Styverson is here. Mayor Son >> here. >> All members present, ma'am. >> Okay, we have an add-on item.
>> Let's do the call the pledge of allegiance first. >> All right. >> Former mayor, would you like to lead us in the in the pledge? I pledge allegiance >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Do we have an invocation? >> Not tonight, ma'am. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, we have a couple of changes to tonight's agenda.
Um, I'm sorry, we just have one change. We have an add-on request by Commissioner Joseph and that's to add a resolution amending resolution number 2025 3862 uh relating to the recognition of Jewish solidarity day. >> Okay.
>> Yes. >> Do I um do I have any opposition to that? Do we need we need to vote on that? A motion, please. >> We need a second in >> favor. I Okay. It'll be added on as item 9Q.
>> Okay. Thank you everyone >> that we have the approval of the minutes of the March commission meeting. >> Okay, I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Need a second? >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. >> Thank you. We can play your opening
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rules of procedure to ensure productive meetings that serve both the public and the city commission. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. >> Okay, good evening everyone. Um, I see a lot of familiar faces, so thank you for coming back. Um, and I know that most of
you know this already, but especially for those watching, I just want to uh add an additional reminder that we do follow Robert's rules here. Uh, please adhere to the three minutes. Uh, we want to make sure that we maintain decorum any uh items that you're going to speak
on. You direct them to me, the chair, not any individuals on the commission. We don't um start attacking anyone on the commission. Uh likewise I ask my colleagues that we uh maybe disagree with an item but not the person. Um and uh you know ultimately we're here to do
the city business but also hear from you as well. So we want to make sure that you get um your allotted three minutes. And if at any point you decide that you changed your mind, you can just go ahead and say you don't want to speak at an item. But once the public comment is closed, it's closed. So, if you just
want to speak on a few items, go ahead and fill it out and then you don't have to if you don't want to. Um, okay, Mauricio, go ahead. >> Okay. So, the first item that we have on the agenda are zoning applications and I'm going to read the zoning introductory statements.
Ladies and gentlemen, this evening's agenda has two zoning applications. The city will the city commission will be conducting public hearings to review and consider these applications. In these matters, the city commission sits in a quasi judicial capacity and will hear testimony from city staff, the
applicants, and members of the public. The materials attached to the agenda are considered part of the record, as well as any additional documentary evidence that is introduced and accepted into the record during the hearings. If you intend to speak or provide testimony on any zoning application, you must be
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matter of procedure, the city staff will present first. After city staff has made their presentations, the applicants will make their presentations in support of their applications. Thereafter, the hearings will be open to members of the public to speak in support of or against
the pending applications. The city commission may set reasonable time limits for members of the public to speak. After members of the public speak, both staff and the applicants may make additional statements or rebuttal, and the applicants have the right to
cross-examine any witness. Thereafter, the public hearing portion of the item will be closed and the commission will commence deliberations and make a decision on the application. Ultimately, the decision made by the city commission at the conclusion of the hearings must be based upon competent
substantial evidence which has been presented during the course of the hearings and must adhere to the essential requirements of the law. Competent substantial evidence is defined as evidence that is sufficiently relevant and material that a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support
the conclusion reached and includes the documentary evidence in the record. The city staff report comments or opinions of professional staff, fact-based comments of neighbors, residents and persons, opinion testimony, but only by
witnesses who are qualified as experts. Competent substantial evidence does not include conjecture, speculation, or generalized opinions or statements in support or in opposition of the matter. Attorney testimony is generally not competent substantial evidence unless the attorney has some expertise in a
revalent area. So now with in accordance with the LDRs of the city of Sunnyal Beach and all items to be heard today have been legally advertised, notices have been mailed and posted on the properties. All persons wishes to speak at this hearing, please raise your right arm to be sworn
in. Do you swear testimony about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you God. Thank you. So the first item that we have is 5A which is a request of Leslie Edelman
for a site plan modification of a unit separation for the property located at 17901 Collins Avenue unit TS 3405 067. >> Okay. >> And before we move forward, are there any exarty communications that need to be disclosed?
>> None for me. >> None for me. None. Thank you. >> Go ahead. Okay. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. This is zoning application PZ 2022603 for a site plan modification at the estates at Aqualina.
This is specifically regarding a particular unit located in the South Tower. The address is TS3405-0607. I'll get into why it has those three addresses in just a moment. Um the owner and the applicant is Leslie Edelman and this is located in the estates at
Aqualina at 17 I1 Collins Avenue located on the east side of Collins Zone mixeduse Resort. The specific request is to separate this combined unit into two units. Currently the unit takes up the entire 34th floor of the South Tower. So
this is the existing floor plan of the unit as it stands today. When the project was originally approved in 2014 and 15, this was supposed to be a twounit floor. And then when the project was additionally modified in 2018, it
was approved as having three units on the floor. In 2022, the developer requested a miter site plan modification to combine all three units into one, and that's what's before you right now. Um, it's one combined unit for the entire floor.
And the proposal is to split the unit into two. What's on the screen delineates the two units uh by color. So there's one in blue and one in orange. This is going to be achieved by closing off of some of the doorways and um constructing a new demising wall.
Um, by doing the separation, it's increasing the project density from 234 to 235 dwelling units, which is still below the maximum number of dwelling units for the project, which is 487. So, staff finds this application to be
consistent with the comp plan and the land development regulations. The applicant's representative is here tonight, and I'm also available if you have any questions. >> Okay. Thank you. >> How many square feet is the entire space? is a which space?
>> The entire space undivided. >> Oh, I'll I'll look at the plans and answer that when I can. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Does anyone have any questions? >> No. >> Just I'm curious. Does the the unit that's the blue unit, I guess we'll call
it that, does that have any windows or is that or is that like surrounded by the other by the other unit? >> Go ahead, Amy. >> Okay. Thank you. So, what's highlighted in blue is facing Collins Avenue and it does have a balcony. I see.
>> Um, which is the white part and it has two bedrooms facing Collins Avenue. So, it does have >> Okay. >> windows, but yeah, it looks like the orange one is kind of like a horseshoe shape. >> Okay, understood. Thank you. >> Okay. And I'm getting the square footage. >> Thank you. >> All right.
Can I get a motion? >> Second. Excuse me. Commissioner Lama, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscara, >> yes. >> Commissioner Styson,
>> yes. >> Mayor Setchin, >> yes. >> The application is approved. Five to zero. >> Okay. Next item. >> Next item is 5B. Request of Draco Garment Care LLC for a signed ordinance variance for the property located at
18660 Collins Avenue. And are there any expert communications for this application? >> None by me. Anyone else? >> No. No. >> None. >> No. Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening. Um, this is zoning application PZ 2022604 for assigned
variance. Um, the applicant is Martin Lopez, the owner of the business called Dry Eco Garment Care, which is located in the Millennium Plaza at 18660 Collins Avenue in Sweet 100. The property is located on the west side of Collins Avenue and it is zoned neighborhood
business or B1. The request is to increase the permitted wall sign area from 28.5 square feet to 96.4 square feet. This is the existing storefront and the sign that is facing Collins Avenue. The applicant's request for the sign
variance is due to decreased visibility from the bus shelter that has been installed, but I will allow the applicant to expand on that aspect a little bit further. As you can see here, the existing green dry eco sign is located on the ground floor of the storefront just above that
orange awning. And this is the proposed sign. The storefront is 28 feet and 5 in in linear width. And therefore, the maximum size of the wall sign is 28.5 ft. The applicant is requesting a variance
from this in order to allow a wall sign with a maximum size of 96.4 ft and it's going to be located on the upper parapit wall where the Miami juice sign is also located. The uh zoning code has three specific criteria for reviewing sign ordinance
variances and this application meets some of those criteria but not all of them. The limited visibility of the storefront from the bus shelter is a condition that the applicant did not create and the proposed sign is not contrary to the
public interest. However, literal enforcement of the sign regulations would not result in an unnecessary hardship as the business could install a wall sign that is compliant in size. So, with that, the applicant is also present tonight and I'll be available if you have any questions.
>> Okay, >> thank you. >> Does anyone have any questions? >> No, I neglected to say see if we have any public speakers. >> Yes, there are no public speakers for either one. >> Okay. Vice Mayor, did you have a question? Do we have a rendering of what
the compliance sign a compliance sign would look like? >> Um I do not have one with me now. But the applicant is also here if you maybe he has >> Yes. >> I'd be I I would like to have it because what you're showing us is what they want
which is non-compliant. So I'd like to see what I mean it would be this. It would just be smaller. I guess the same just smaller font, >> right? >> That would that would make it compliant if we just make it smaller font. >> Yes.
>> Okay. >> How much just I know that it's a little bit skewed because of the direction, but in in reference if we reference it to the Miami Juice sign, um how much bigger or uh or how big would it be compared to
that if it was in compliance with to Vice Mayor's point? So the Miami Juice sign is 17.25 square feet and the proposed sign is the 96 square feet. And so the rendering that's all the way to
the left is to scale. >> So >> it's to scale. Okay. >> The Miami Juice sign that you see, the green one is the 17.25 foot sign and the proposed dry eco sign is the 96.4. Miami Juice could be bigger if they
wanted they wanted it to be. >> It depends on the length of their storefront, but I think it could be a few more square feet larger. Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Um I'll take a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> You need a second, please. >> Second.
>> No. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Commissioner of Vice Mayor Viscaro. >> No. I think they can solve their problem by being compliant. Commissioner Syson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Lama, >> yes.
>> Mayor Setchin, >> yes. >> The application is approved four to one. >> Okay. >> On to ordinance. >> So now ordinances first reading 6A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sanos Beach, Florida, amending
chapter 265, article 2, section 265-5, entitled definitions and article 5, section 265. 17 entitled subdivision plat approval of the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny Als Beach in accordance with the
requirements of section 177.071 Florida statutes as amended by Senate Bill 784 and to align with certain procedures in chapter 28 of the Miami date county code of ordinances providing for repealer for severability for
codification and providing for an effective date. This is first reading. >> Okay. We need to address the commission, right? >> Okay. I'm sorry. Uh, mayor, um, just to clarify, the applicant. >> Yes. >> Um, had some some opposition to some of the conditions if I'm understanding
correctly. >> Yes. >> And he wanted to speak. >> So, he has your item was approved, sir. You know that >> was >> it's approved. It's approved. >> You're good to go. >> Yes. Yes. >> Good luck. >> Yes. Thank you.
>> Yes. >> We have Wait, we approved it with conditions, right? I think he had >> He's objecting. >> He's There's no conditions there. >> Okay. So, all right. >> No, he's good to go. >> There are conditions. >> There are conditions. There's always >> there's always a lot of business.
>> Wait, wait, wait. Could we please? There's always there's always conditions in your resolutions with regards to approval. >> So again, Amy can speak to what those conditions are, but there's always conditions >> that these approvals are set. >> Okay. So let's let's take a step back. Okay. Amy,
can you clarify please what the conditions are? >> Yes. >> Do we need to reopen this officially? Okay. I need a motion to reopen. >> No, we need a Yeah. Motion to reconsider. So >> reconsider.
>> Do we need a roll call? >> No, just all in. >> Okay. All in favor? >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Um, so there's six proposed conditions of approval that are in the staff report and in the resolution before you. It's the last one. Um, is the one that I know the business owner wanted to speak
about. Um, the first five conditions are standard. It must comply with the approved plans. It has to get a building permit and comply with other city state uh county laws. >> But the last condition we were proposing that the sign shall be illuminated only during business hours and I believe
that's the one that the business owner wanted to speak about. >> Okay. And the current sign is not illuminated. >> The current sign is illuminated. Yes. >> 247. >> Uh he can answer that. >> Okay. Please. Okay sir. Yes.
if you can uh give your name and address for the record, please. >> Hi. Yes, Martin Lopez. I represent Draco uh at 18660 Colins Avenue 100 in San Beach. >> Um so to answer your question, yes, it is illuminated, although it it is
currently broken, which is why we're replacing the sign as well. But normally we did have it illuminated 247. Mhm. >> My understanding is part of the um what we just spoke about is the brightness um
at nighttime. So for us, the main concern was restoring business visibility that we used to have um by turning off the sign um during off hours. It it does go back to that same issue. Um, I am proposing, you know,
just dimming the light more at night to the point where we can still see that the business is there, that there's a dry cleaner there. >> It just wouldn't be as bright as during normal business hours. >> Okay, I'm okay with that. But, uh, any comments from the commission?
>> Please go ahead, Vice Mayor. >> Is the, um, the business next door illuminated 247? >> I believe they are, if I'm not mistaken. I just think it should be uniform. You know, whatever whatever it is should be uniform. You shouldn't like give one
business permission and then the other one doesn't have it. If I remember correctly, I don't know what my conditions are. Yeah, I don't know. >> Um, anyone else? >> No, >> I'm okay with it. >> All right. So, um, Mr. City Attorney, how do we need to
amend this in order to allow the dimming? >> Okay, but with the dimming rather than >> as amended. Okay. So, as amended. All right. So, wait, wait, don't go away. >> All right. I need a motion as amended. >> And I'll second. >> All right. Mauricio.
>> Okay. Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro, >> still a no. >> Commissioner Cyerson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Lama, >> yes. >> Mayor Shatchen, >> yes. >> The application is approved four to zero as amended.
>> Thank you. All right. Now, we're going to go on to the next item. You read it in >> I read it. So we're on item 6A. >> No other conditions. We're all set. Right. >> Okay. Go ahead.
>> Let's keep the quorum. Let's go. >> Okay. Um so this is an ordinance to amend the platting procedures and the land development regulations. This ordinance was initiated because of state legislation that was approved in 2025. Uh specifically Senate Bill 784. And
what that legislation says is that um all counties and municipalities must um administratively approve plats with no further action or approval required from the governing body. Um it also requires that the jurisdiction designate an
administrative official who will receive, review and process the application and then an administrative official responsible for approving approving with conditions or denying the plat application. So, the proposed ordinance in front of you um changes the platting procedures
in our ordinance and our existing code to designate the planning and zoning director as the authority who will receive, review, and process the application and the city manager as the administrative authority to approve approve with conditions or deny the application.
While we were doing this ordinance, um, and while we're at it, might as well fix another issue with it, which was our zoning code currently only gives us procedures for subdivision, which is when you take one lot and divide it into three or more properties. It didn't have
a process if you need to do a replot or a lot split. So, what we did was take the process and procedures from the Miami date county code, um, mimicked them, adjusted them to our community, and put them into this ordinance as well. Um, So, I'm available if you have any questions.
>> Thank you. Do we have public speakers, Mauricio? >> We do. Martin Chadock. >> Okay. Did you want to sign up for something else? Okay. Anyone else? >> All right. Any questions from the commission? >> I'll take a motion, please. >> I'll make a motion.
>> I'll second. >> Vice Mayor Escaro? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Cyerson. Commissioner LMA. >> Yes. Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fetchin. >> Yes. >> The ordinance is approved on first reading five to zero.
>> Okay. Next item. Next item is 6B, an ordinance of the city commission of the city of San Beach, Florida, creating article 7 in chapter 256 entitled personal delivery devices and mobile carriers and creating section 26
256-50 entitled safe operation of personal delivery devices and mobile carriers. in the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny Al Beach to establish regulations for personal delivery devices and mobile carriers operating within the city providing for severability providing for
repealer providing for inclusion in the code providing for an effective date. >> Okay, Mr. City Manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, we discussed this item at the last meeting and you directed us to bring forth an ordinance that regulates
mobile delivery devices. So, we believe we've incorporated everything that you've asked for. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Do we have any comments or questions from the commission? >> Take a motion, please. >> Madam Mayor, before you do that, I think on Tuesday there was some indication
that the uh compliance period instead of 6 months should be three months. Uh and I didn't know whether that was the will of the commission for us to make that change between first and second reading. >> Um okay. Is there support for that? Yes.
>> Yeah, I would like to see three months. Yeah, >> three months. >> Three months. Okay. Three months. So, as amended. Okay. >> You need a revote. >> Thank you. We haven't voted. You haven't voted. >> We need a motion. >> Long day. We need a motion. Thank you. >> As amended. >> As amended.
>> Thank you, Commissioner Cyerson. >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscara. >> Yes. >> Mayor Setchin. >> Yes. The ordinance is approved as amended on first reading. Second reading will be in May.
>> Okay. Next item. >> Next item is 6 C. An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Als Beach, Florida, approving a first amendment to the lease agreement between the city of Sunny Alles Beach and Laia Beach Associates for the lease premises
located at 18590 Collins Avenue, Sunny Als Beach, Florida. Authorizing the mayor to execute set lease amendment providing for an effective date. >> Mr. City Manager >> Susan. >> Okay. My apologies. Deputy manager, vice mayor, commissioner.
>> Um, you entered into this lease in 2024 with an initial guaranteed term of 42 months and they would like to add 24 months to that initial term or an initial term of 66 months. It will be uh
the rent is $10,000 per month with an annual CPI increase. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> Uh no, we don't. >> You sure? Okay. All right. Questions from the commission?
>> No questions. >> I'll take a motion, please. >> I'll second. >> Okay. >> Commissioner LMO, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. Vice Mayor Viscaro, >> yes. >> Commissioner Styerson, >> yes.
>> Mayor Fetchin, >> yes. >> The ordinance is approved on first reading, 50 to zero. Second reading is scheduled for May. >> Okay, >> we're on to ordinances for second reading. 8A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny House
Beach, Florida, amending chapter 265, article 9, section 265-53, entitled required signs, no permit required of the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny Beach, requiring the posting of certain signs at community and commercial swimming pools, providing
for repeal serverability, codification, and an effective date. Okay, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is the second reading of our ordinance requiring addresses to be posted at pools. >> Okay. Do we have any public speakers?
>> We do. Stephen Hirs. >> Stephen Hirs 17201 Collins. Just a quick followup from my comments from last month. Um, and since you haven't had any speakers, I thought I'd be first. Thank you. >> Um the the purpose of the ordinance is
is very good and I strongly support the ordinance. It was the impact statement study that my comments were addressed to uh last month regarding uh section 2A regarding the costs estimates as well as
part three for the number of businesses affected. This ordinance will affect every condominium building that has a pool, every HOA that has a pool, and every hotel motel that has a pool. And my comments were that uh many of
these facilities will require multiple signs, more than one, and that the purpose of the impact statement is to accurately give information to all of the um business owners or condominium
associations within the city so they know what is the potential impact upon them for purposes of budgeting, cost, etc. Um the day after uh the last meeting um I
received an email from the city attorney um basically thanking me for um for the comments and agreeing that they would be modified in this impact statement. there was an adjustment that was made uh
basically including that there might be multiple signs required and there might be lighting for turtle purposes. Um again the ordinance I strongly support. Uh but I just think it's really important that uh we give a fair cost
estimate to our residents and all of our business owners in the city on any ordinances that we think we might be adopted. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No other speakers. >> All right. Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion, please. >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second.
>> All in favor? >> This is an ordinance. We need a roll call. >> Oh, I apologize. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro, >> yes. >> Commissioner Cyan. >> Commissioner Llama, >> yes. >> Mayor Spetchin, >> yes.
>> The ordinances are adopted 50. >> Okay. 8B. 8B is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunnyalis Beach amending ordinance number 2025635 approving budget amendment number BA252602
to the city's operating capital improvement budget for the 2025 2026 fiscal year authorizing the city manager to do all things necessary to implement the terms and conditions of this ordinance providing for an effective date. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the
commission. This is the second reading of the budget amendment that we presented last month. >> Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> No, I have a comment. So, go ahead. >> I'm going to vote against it again like
last month. Uh because of the no line items, breakdowns, no invoices, no material explanations. Uh I had a big issue with the Intra Coastal Sports Park. Uh we just approve or it pass uh a $200,000 additional increase for uh
change orders to the to the contractor again without detail. The other $300,000 we don't know exactly also how they're going to be used. So the details is not because I don't trust the staff. I do trust the staff. I just want more accountability and
transparency uh for the purpose of being able to inform the people how we are spending the money. So because of that and um I know with this amendment >> I I have a question for the city manager. Is is this something that was
requested and wasn't provided? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> Can you provide that so that we have that information? >> Yes. >> Okay. If I may, I those were my comments of last month. That's that was my justification for voting against this item is because like I said, we didn't
have the change orders, no the material explanation, no breakdowns, no line items. So I just don't feel comfortable and I don't believe we should be voting without the full information and that's the reason why I voted against the last
month. The same reason why I'm voting no again. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll take a motion. >> A motion was made, Madame Mayor. >> That's right. I need a second. >> So move. >> Second. Second. >> Yeah. Second. >> Vice Mayor Viscara.
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Styver. >> No. >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> No. >> Mayor Spetchin. >> Yes. >> The ordinance is adopted 3 to 10. >> Okay.
We're on to resolutions. 9A is a resolution of the city commission of the city of San Jose, Florida, approving an agreement with Millennium Products to upgrade the NVR server systems at Pure Park, Intra Coastal Park, and Samson Park. >> Mr. City Manager,
>> mayor, vice mayor, members of commission, this upgrades are servers and the new server is to be installed in the police department. >> Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. Do we have comments or questions from the commission? >> I'll take a motion.
>> I'll make a motion. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Next item. 9. >> 9B is a resolution authorizing the expenditure of budgeted funds for the purchase of nine police vehicles from Allen J Fleet Sales.
>> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This allows us to purchase nine police vehicles and we are ensuring that any recalls are handled. >> All right. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> During the um agenda um workshop, I had
asked some questions. Um, Deputy Manager, if you can just for the record regard regarding how many vehicles we have currently, police vehicles, because it often seems like we're constantly buying police vehicles is my point. So, just so we get
>> Just need to look it up really quick because I sent it to you yesterday. Um, we currently have 53 marked units, 16 unmarked units, and eight motorcycles in spare. We have 10 marked with six to be auctioned, six unmarked with three to be
auctioned. >> Okay. >> And the vehicles being purchased here will be replacement vehicles for what is current. So when we transition those out, um these the older ones will go out to auction and these will become pool cars.
>> Got it. Does anyone have any questions? >> And and the auction then offsets some of the cost, >> right? >> I agree. I I do feel like we're always but it's because they're >> cycling out. >> Exactly. >> Right. Okay. Any other questions? >> No.
>> I'll take a motion, please. >> I'll make a motion. >> Excuse me. One to be second. All in favor? >> I I >> All right. I'll 9C is a resolution approving a second amendment to the agreement with policing with the passion
to provide law enforcement consulting services. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is a second amendment with policing with passion group and they assist the chief with police matters and including our city's red
light camera program. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion, please. >> I'll make a motion. >> Need a second. Second. >> All in favor? I >> I >> nine D is a resolution approving an
agreement with Garland DBS for sealed coating and waterproofing services for the government center parking garage. >> Okay, city manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is an agreement to waterproof the government center garage.
We just completed the solar panels to provide um some shade but also to offset our energy cost. The garage is in need of maintenance and this will be seal coating and waterproofing for the entire
garage. >> Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. During the agenda review, I had asked um just for clarification that any leaks that are there, this is going to include um correcting any of that and making sure that it's not just sealed,
it's fixed. >> Yes, that's >> this amount in includes all of that. >> Yes, it does. >> Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions? Go ahead. >> Also, um during the agenda review, I had asked for once the solar panels are operational, I would like to have a
review and information regarding the efficiency of those solar panels. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Um, I need a motion. >> I'll make a motion.
>> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Thanks, R. 9E is a resolution approving a first amendment to the agreement with RGen Enterprises doing business as cool water air conditioning for preventive
maintenance services of the HVAC management systems located at Gateway Gateway Park Pelican Community Park the public works compound the spot heritage park and the town center park meditation garden >> okay Mr. City Manager, >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the
commission. This is the company that provides maintenance air conditioning services for numerous city facilities. >> Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? >> Go ahead. >> During the agenda review, I had noted
that uh Pelican Park is due for a um reconstruction at some point. So any um regarding the uh condition of the air conditioning at this time, I would ask that we don't put any large sums of
money into that air conditioning system. >> I think it was confirmed that that's that was the point. Yes, you're correct. Okay, I'll take a motion, please. >> Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I. >> Next item.
9F is a resolution authorizing the purchase of 14 bus shelters from Toller Manufacturing Company in an amount not exceeded 125 $129,140. >> Mr. City Manager, >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of commission, this item, this company, we
will replace 14 of our bus shelters throughout the city. Uh we have it came up during the workshop and we have 47 bus shelters in total. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers?
>> No ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> Thank you. All in favor? >> All in favor? I >> I >> I >> Next item
>> 9G is a resolution approving an agreement with J&J doing business as Eagle Painting for as needed citywide painting and pressure cleaning services. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This company will provide
painting services throughout various uh city facilities. >> Public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? >> No. I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Need a second. >> Second. All in favor?
>> I. >> Okay. >> 9H is a resolution approving a second amendment to the agreement with team contracting for the installation of new pre-engineered metal building. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is a second amendment
with team contracting for the installation of the prefab building in at the William layman site. Originally the engineering for this structure, it was considered that it be
installed in a slab. We had this discussion during the workshop and it was later determined that the slab would be insufficient to support the structure. So this re-engineers the slab and adds piling to support the structure.
>> It adds what? >> Pilings. >> Pilings. >> Pilings. >> Pilings. >> Pilings. Yes. >> Do we have any public speakers? >> No ma'am. >> Okay. Are there questions from the commission? >> Just about the timeline. When are we expecting that to be finished?
I believe this amendment brought it to July of July 30th of 2026. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> So, just for clarification for the residents, um this uh steel structure is
um at the end of North Bay Road behind the gate where the pump stations are. So, we've uh now uh gone through we've approved insulation for the insulation for the building soundproofing.
Um and it turns out that originally the ground wasn't tested for um viability causing us to now have to put in pilings to avoid sinkage. So, we're doing that now at an
additional expense, but we've learned again our lesson to uh think ahead and look at the project um more efficiently from the beginning.
>> All right, I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Next item, Mauricio. 9 I is a resolution approving a sixth amendment to the agreement with Craig A. Smith Associates Consultants for Civil Engineering
Services for the Central Island Area Pump Stations and Drainage Improvements Project. >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission, this is a six amendment with Craig Smith for civil engineering for central island area pump station and
drainage improvements. We discussed this a little bit at the workshop. The issue was originally when we first started looking at the drainage issues in central island was determined that we could try to use
a pump station or two pump stations. Each time we bid it out, we tried to do a companion bid with North Miami Beach. The cost was doubling, tripling. So we ended up looking at the
possibility of doing injection wells versus pump stations. So we studied that and through careful study it's now been determined that the original idea
putting pump stations is the only real effective way to eliminate the drainage issue that we have in central island. So, we're going back, looking at those plans, updating them, and then going to bid that out again and bring that back
to you. But I can tell you that the cost is significant. We've looked at other options, but truly the only way to solve it is going to be the installation of pump stations, which is going to include
some substantial engineering and work. And are you saying that it's going to actually solve for for it or mitigate it? >> We believe that this will provide a long-term solution, which is what we're looking at because of the substantial
cost really in either option. We want a long-term solution versus short-term. >> All right. Do we have public speakers? Mauricio? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? Commissioner Joseph, go ahead. >> Yes. So, unfortunately, and I've made this comment previously, that um
spending um bills like this that come before the commission, they come to us in such a short period of time. Um I I have known about injection wells. I looked into them. Um I believe other
commissioners had not and voted to um uh spend money on the ejection wells that I I was the only no vote. I knew they wouldn't work and they were finally scrapped. Thank goodness. Years ago, the uh pump stations should have gone
through, but the can was kicked down the road and now they're the expense that they will be. But that is the only viable solution and I'm all for the uh pumping stations. >> Okay. Um anyone else? I'll take a
motion, please. >> Motion. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> All right. Next item, please. Next item is J9J, a resolution ratifying the expenditure of budgeted funds with the Lange Landon Financial for Cisco
products and professional services. Approving a lease purchase agreement with the Lange Land Financial and approving a statement of work with R2 Unified Technologies to perform the related labor. >> Okay.
>> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. Essentially, this item involves networking and support for our camera systems throughout the city with our police department. >> All right. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission?
>> No. >> All right. I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> All right. Next item. Mauricio >> 9J is a excuse me 9K is a resolution ratifying the expenditure of budgeted funds with Microsoft Corporation for
software licenses. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is standard uh software licenses for the employees through Microsoft. >> Any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any questions for the commission?
>> I'll take a motion. Motion. >> Second. Who's one? All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Nine 9 9 L is a resolution authorizing the
city manager or designate to purchase various necessary equipment and amenities for parks and various city locations from rep services for fiscal year 2025 2026. Mayor, vice mayor, members of commission. This allows for us to
purchase various items needed for amenities throughout the parks in the city. >> Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any questions from the commission? >> Just to ask what is an example of some of the amenities?
>> That is benches, tables, trash receptacles. >> Okay. So those concrete tables that we had spoken of previously, >> they do have some concrete tables. I think that's not the ones that we necessarily purchased from them, but yes.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Like always, I really urge caution to the commission when giving this blank purchase orders. We have a limit of $50,000 for a reason. Here we are giving
a prepaid $100,000 gift card and look like the whereas says he said whereas the vendor is willing and able to provide the products we don't know which products are those are not defined anywhere we don't have a list of the products um this totally bypass
commission oversight again it's essentially like a blank check for discretionary spending we have a threshold of 50,000 so voting Yes, literally is just giving up our right to know what is actually being purchased and it's our obligation to know what is
it that we are purchasing. So I am I know for this like before it's not that I'm not trusting what we are doing is that for matter of oversight and transparency this should be attached to this memorandum. Um and again we have a
$50,000 for a reason to go over that. I think we should not be We should be cautious when doing that. So I'm a I'm a no. >> Okay. Do we have a list of the items that we purchased in the past for this uh similar amount? >> Yes. So all of the items that are being
purchased were in the budget under each department's capital outlay. So if you look there, they've requested to buy like for example um somebody asked the question the other day about the in the bus shelters. Is it a bench? No, those are individual chairs.
>> So yes. Commissioner Joseph. So all of those items that were detailed itemized in the capital outlay for each department that purchases from them >> this >> that count is in there and I can absolutely get that for you by tomorrow morning. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. But we are overpassing again the bidding process. So there may be more companies, better products, better better materials. So we are piggyback with like Klay County which is like a small rural area close to Jacksonville.
Um so we have an amazing purchasing department. We we should be able to do this in a more open way. So this is very uncomfortable to be giving blank purchase orders. You guys know why you're buying for it. So just attach it
here and then we have the full scope of information. Any other questions? >> I I would think it's that's easy enough to do. It's not an unreasonable request. >> I I don't disagree. It's in the it's in the budget. So,
>> yes. So, it's just a matter of listening. >> So, it's not in the resolution. Like, we never even knew how much money we were spending in the um city anniversaries until I asked for it. Why? Because it was little pieces everywhere. So, we cannot be voting by little pieces
everywhere. Then suddenly we find out that we're spending around $300,000 in one evening party. So here is the same thing. If it's already in the budget, let's put it together. Let's attach. Let's give us the information. And again, we have a limit of $50,000 for a
reason. So if we are going to continue giving just blank purchase orders, so why are we having that limit? So this is not enough information to be giving those that kind of um rights and is our obligation to see how the money is being
spent and here we don't have the information. So if anything I will make a motion to uh remove this area this item until next month until we got more information. >> Okay. Um, >> is there any reason uh that this can't
be removed? That this is does this cause a delay that costs us additional funds? >> I can tell you that um the current market is very questionable. So delaying a purchase for some of these items by a month prices could increase because we
don't know what's happening with >> Were these expected to be purchased tomorrow? >> They were expected to be purchased before next week. Yes. I mean we were going to issue the purchase order Monday Tuesday after the resolution gets signed >> which which also to the point so this is
like predetermined because is known that the majority is going to go for whatever is it that is bring to us without any kind of oversight or discussion. So that basically is insulting
>> right but for clarification we approve the budget which has these items in it. So you know it's not a blank check. >> Yes, it is as of it is right now the way it is in this in this whereas our resolution the resolution is one page
without >> no commissioner. What I'm saying is is that we have approved the city manager to move ahead with the city budget which includes these items. >> That's what we've been told. >> Well, I have to You said that you trust the staff. >> Yes, I do.
>> Well, then you should be able >> trust and verify. So we could have a little bit more of information. We don't have enough information to be voting on this. We we are just voting with this with one one page >> saying the products, the guy, the
people, the clay county or whatever county. So this is not enough. >> So for next month, you want an itemized list of every single item. >> Clearly. Yes. I want more information. I don't want overwhelm the staff with a
request. But if like we're claiming everything is there already so it can be put together and attached to this resolution so we are comfortable that the $100,000 that we are authorizing for them to buy whatever is it that the
products that we are buying we know what is it because that is our mandate oversight. >> How quickly would you be able to put that together? >> I should be able to have it for you tomorrow. You know, they asked for H 100,000 because that's what we've
budgeted for, but it could vary. So Colin may need a a picnic table sooner than Fabricio needs a trash can. So the $100,000 is for the whole, you know, the rest of this fiscal year so that we could purchase as needed.
>> They weren't planning to go out and get I would have to find out from them what they needed immediately or what they were looking to purchase more quickly. But for example, in parks, they had three picnic tables at $18,000 budgeted and four trash recycling sets at 30. So
right there is $48,000. And the Klay County piggyback is because this is our standard style that we use. So rather than having a hodge podge of whatever and the way of different, you know, trash receptacles and benches, we
want them to be uniform and matching. Um, and the way these work is they have a designated vendor, you know, you can't just like you can't choose a Sherwin Williams paint and go to somewhere else. They'll
match it close, but it's not the exact. So, >> because this is the brand and style that we have, unless if we want to change that brand and style, that's why we were piggybacking. It's a more efficient way to purchase it. >> Okay. But like I said before also and I agree
with everything Susan say by the way but bidding is very healthy and we have a great procurement department that is more than capable of doing this. So every time I go to this conference we have
like new products new companies etc with better cost better materials solar panels you you name it. So it is healthy to put these things out there. Maybe there are products that we are not even aware of because we are not even trying
to find them. So it's a healthy process. It is what we should be doing with most purchases now all of them clearly. So and my point with this resolution specifically is that I do not believe that we have the whole information to be voted on it.
>> I'm not I'm not opposed to to getting an itemized list. Um, >> so I make a motion to defer the item for next month. >> May I? Um, >> go ahead. >> So, right now the purchase order that you want to send next week, right now it's at 48,000, right?
>> I I honestly would have to check. I you know, they wait until they get approval and then now that they would have approval, they'll put together their order. >> They meaning the heads of the department. >> Correct. Yes. So, pretty specifically, I
believe it's Colin and Fabricio. >> Okay. But right now, we know that we need to buy $48,000 worth of >> Oh, you can't do that. >> They're asking for permission to purchase up to $100,000 with this
particular company between now and September 30th. Could they go tomorrow and start shopping up to four up to 499? Yes, they could do that and then come back to you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to get at. Like it do do they
does it need to come to us if if like let's say next week they're going to purchase 40,000 and then they're going to purchase and it's been budgeted already. I mean I'm just trying to understand >> they could do the first order under 50 but as soon as they get near that but
it's more transparent to bring it all to you in the first place rather than peacemailing it. So we were trying to do it the right way. >> No, no, I understand. I'm just trying to understand the process and why we're getting presented with this like a purchase order of a 100,000.
Um, >> part of it is because prices are fluctuating and so they go to bid and the way the bid is is that it's a certain percentage off of catalog price or off it off of, you know, the
the the bid is a discount, a discounted rate. But if that they go to bid they go >> so the Klay County bid that we're piggybacking >> we're piggybacking off them >> correct it's typically a discount off of their catalog rate
>> if the catalog rate changes next week because there's a fuel search charge or there's anything else that's you know the ship is stuck somewhere um that we we had that instance during co um if we delay it we don't have a problem
delaying it It's It's just another month. >> But the prices could go up. >> They could, but I have no idea. Maybe >> they could go down, too. >> Maybe they'll go down. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> From our position, these are budgeted
items. It was a legitimate procurement process as a piggyback to get a discount. >> Yeah. I don't have an issue with it. I I to you for approval. No, I'm just trying to understand, do you really need this approval if you could go out and let's say right now you have a
$48,000 that you you don't even need our approval and then two months from now you could go and buy the other stuff that you need then I would have to come to you then. >> But the problem you can't you don't you don't want to do that because if legitimately we know
we're going to go to this company and throughout this year spend $150,000. You don't want to start doing 499499 499 because then we're circumventing you which trying not to do. That's why it's being brought to you.
>> No, I understand that. But but if you don't know all the products that make up the $100,000 or unless you could supply us that information, I just want to make sure that we're sticking to our our rules. You know, uh I don't mind uh approving
this with the caveat that you supply us tomorrow with, you know, the list of products with the prices that you want to purchase. You know, I understand that you need to move quick. >> This is very much sticking with the rules. We we get estimates when we do
our budget, which was a year ago right now. >> So, you know, at the time that they chose 12 trash cans at $12,000 and put it in the budget, >> you know, we don't want to buy them too early and have them sit in storage if I don't need them yet, but I also want to
make sure that we spend the money this fiscal year. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, if we could just get the uh a list of the uh products, I would appreciate that. >> Yes. So, is that something that we can do? Approve it with contingent on
getting the list tomorrow? >> I mean, you can. I mean, it's >> I cannot tell you that the list will total a 100,000. Exactly. We're asking for up to 100,000. We will not exceed a 100,000. tomorrow's list or Monday's
list may be 40,000 35,000. >> You're just trying to build in the flexibility. >> And again, you're limited to this particular vendor and the goods that they actually produce and sell that's listed in the piggyback. So, you're you're constricted to the piggyback and the items that are listed in that. Uh
it's not like you can go to another company and spend that money for something else. you're still stuck with that vendor for those goods that are right >> in the piggyback >> and it's the recommendation of the of the staff to move forward with this.
>> So, can I ask that we put it off, defer it for the month, have the list attached, and then we'll vote yes next month. >> We we don't need to be voting blindly. We will be voting blindly right now. So,
like I said, I make a motion to defer the item >> more information. >> Okay, >> Mauricio. >> So, we have a motion and a second. We just need all in favor. Well, actually, you know,
I'll request uh >> that that's why I was asking you. >> Sorry. Commissioner Stifent. >> Yes. To the motion to defer. Commissioner Lama, >> no. >> Commissioner Joseph,
>> yes. >> Vice Mayor Vascara, >> no. >> Mayor Spetchin, >> yes. >> The motion to defer is approved 3 to two. >> Okay, next item. >> Next item is 9M, a resolution approving
an agreement with Academy Bus for motor coach transportation services on an as needed basis. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission, this is the company that we use for bus services for our camps and field trips and students. >> Okay. Do we have any public speakers?
>> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? >> No. >> No. >> Okay. I'll take a motion, please. >> Motion. >> Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Next item. 9N is a resolution
approving an amendment to the locally funded agreement between the city of Sunny Al Beach and the Florida Department of Transportation for the rehabilitation, repair, and/or replacement of the Atlantic Isle Bridge, historic bridge. >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, um this
is the locally funded agreement with FOT for the bridge, the historic bridge in Atlantic Isles. They will um cover 75% of the cost but it is the city's responsibility to cover 25% of the cost and they manage the
entire project. We have previously paid uh 1 million I keep losing that 1,ion23,49 and we will owe a balance of $641,771 and that is due to the fact that they
went from a rehab project to a full replacement project. So the cost increased. >> Okay. And just for the benefit of the record, can you just clarify what it's going to look like and why we're talk about this so much? >> Sure. Um so >> well actually let me hold off. Uh do we
have any public speakers? >> No ma'am. >> All right go ahead. >> So um because it is historic they are going to um they have to rebuild it to FOT standards for a vehicular bridge that will have a pedestrian path. So, it
will have to meet all of that FOT requirements and they will salvage as much of the coral rock that they can to create from the outside the facade of looking like the historic bridge that currently sits there. >> Okay. Any questions from the commission?
>> Take a motion. >> No questions. Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Next item, please. 90 is a resolution approving the issuance of a proclamation recognizing April 18th, 2026 as Autism
Soccer Day. >> This is a proclamation to give given next year. I just I'm sorry, next month. I just got it a few days ago and it's a to approve the issues of a proclamation recognizing April 18, 2026 as autism
soccer day in support of autist soccer. That's an organization which m mission is to provide inclusive recreational opportunities for individuals on the autism spectrum while promoting awareness, community engagement and the benefits of adaptive sports.
>> Do we have any public speakers? >> We do. Ken Percy. >> Okay. I know we know you, Ken, but please your name and address for the record. >> Thank you. My name is Ken Percy. I live at 200 Sunny Alles Boulevard here in Sunny Als Beach. Um my sister's um
working career has been supporting people with autism all their life. I think this is a really welcome initiative. Bringing more awareness to this particular life challenge is just a wonderful thing. So, thank you so much for this. I just going to remind the
commission also that April the 19th is National Bicycle Day and that has been recognized since 18 uh 65. That's something we should also be recognizing. >> National Bicycle Day.
>> National Bicycling Day since 1865. >> Wow. >> Thank you. >> For next year, we had to do it. >> Thank you. >> You missed the workshop earlier, Ken. >> Yes. >> We're not going back and forth, guys. Please. maintained a quorum here. Any comments from the commission?
>> All right. Uh, would you like to make a motion on your item? >> Yes, sure. Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> All right. Next item. >> 9P is a resolution waving the requirements of the sponsorship guidelines and approving the sponsorship package for the Miami date county legal
cities 72nd annual gayla. >> Okay. Commissioner Joseph, your item. So, I was asked by um assistant city manager uh Susan Simpson to put this on the agenda. I had no problem with it. So, uh let's have the
discussion. >> Okay. Um do you want to just clarify what your item is? We have um whether to um uh to sponsor the um Miami Day League of
Cities dinner. Um so that would be a $5,000 um contribution. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Uh any comments from the commission? >> Mr. Lama, did you want to say something?
>> I thought we had discussed this during the workshop that >> Yes. We're not going to move ahead and just buy tickets individually on this. >> No, we discuss the the workshop was to to bring the item to vote on right now. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, >> I thought we decided that we w we
weren't going to vote on >> Yeah. I thought that we were like, "Yeah, I that's fine." Okay. >> That's all right. >> Okay. So, can I get a motion? >> Make a motion. >> You want to second? I'll >> second it. >> Mercy, do you want to take a
>> Yes, please. Vice Mayor Viscara, >> no. >> Commissioner Styverson, >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Yes. To wave the guidelines. >> What? >> To wave the guidelines. Yes. >> Correct. Yes. Okay. Just want to be
clear. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fetch. >> No. >> The resolution passes 3 to two. >> Okay. Next item. We now have the add-on item 9Q. It's a resolution amending resolution number
2025-3862 relating to the recognition of Jewish solidarity day. >> Yes. So this is my item. Originally we had it uh the resolution passed. The only problem was that it had a date certain which when speaking with the
rabbis, it turns out that we need to have this celebration on uh log ba which that day changes every year this year rather than uh as the resolution is that
uh the event would be on May 3rd which is a Sunday we need to have it on log baome which is May 5th. which is the following Tuesday. So I'm asking not to change the event but to just in the resolution to make the day
to uh going forward to be whatever day Logare happens to be in that year. Um for 2027 it would be on May 25th. So it it changes each year according to the not the Roman calendar. So just for
clarification, you're changing it to the resolution to uh celebrate Lag Bart. >> No, the the uh No, it would be uh the solidarity event would be on the same
day as Log Bulmer. >> Can you tell us what that is, please? I don't know what that is. >> Log Bulmer is um >> Wait, wait, let me see if there's any public comment. >> I apologize. There is no public comment, but if I can just add something, Madame Mayor, um the resolution was this current resolution that you're
considering right now. It's uh it was written to leave the day open-ended. So Oh, it was open. >> Yes. For a day in the month of May annually. >> Oh, I I thought we had it the first Sunday in May. >> We did. That's what we're amending right
now with this resolution. So the res the the current approval is for the first Sunday of every May annually. >> Yes. this resolution that you are now considering voting on is amending that
resolution to now leave it open-ended for >> We don't need to have it open-ended because I was given a calendar a calendar for the next 10 years by Rabbi Ker giving me the exact dates so we could actually load in the exact dates for each year.
>> Okay. Well, that that could be done administratively. This just gives you more flexibility in the case that you may want to change it for whatever reason to another day. Well, it would have to be because of and I learned myself um that because we intend to have
music and dancing at the event um and with um when it the event is on a date uh which is uh between 50 days between
uh Passover and uh Chabu. quote, uh, you cannot, um, have celebrations such as this. Only on the one day log bulmer is permitted. >> Can you spell that, please? Yeah. Can you
>> I don't know what that is. So, >> L A G >> L Apostrophe O M E R >> L A A G E apostrophe >> L A G >> space >> E apostrophe
>> O M E R I believe if you Google that it should come up to Google >> if you can answer Vice Mayor's question please. >> But the event that was planned does not is not connected with Log Bulmer except that on the same day allowing religious
people to celebrate. >> So you want to change the it was originally May 3rd because you said the first Sunday in May is what you originally said. Yes. >> Now you want to change it to match >> match a date that would allow for more
residents to celebrate >> the the most religious plus where the entire city is invited. But if we don't have it on the log bommer date, which
happens to be May 5th this year, it um precludes some religious residents from attending. >> Okay. So you want it to be on logba day >> like May 5th >> on May 5th, >> which is this day. >> It just happens to be that day.
>> May 5th would be a Tuesday. >> Yes, I know. >> Okay. But that's the only day where I can have where where it's allowed for a certain number. I don't know what that number is to attend. >> So it can't be the 6th or the 7th or the 8th. It has to be the fifth.
>> Yes. >> Okay. Because it aligns with >> and on the 20 and next year it would be on May 25th. >> Mayor, >> which is which is when that holiday lands next year. >> That particular day that allows for more people to attend. more people being the
the religious Jews who would be able to not dance and have music and enjoy it on the Sunday >> join everyone else that attends. Yes. >> So the the devout and I may not be using the right words and I apologize.
>> Not religious. So the devout are are not would not be able I don't know if that's the right word by the way but a particular sect of the Jewish community >> orthodox >> would not be able to participate >> but let me finish so that I can so you can hear my question I know but if you
let me finish >> then you can answer because I'm trying to ask you a question. >> So I'm trying to understand because this is completely new to me. Okay. So, you're saying that there's a a segment of of religious Jews, I don't know if
that they're Orthodox, you can clarify that in a second, who would not be able to participate on May 3rd, >> correct? >> But who would be able to participate on May 5th, >> correct? >> Because this holiday allows them to do that. >> Yes. Correct. >> And this is a a holiday
>> particular day. >> Okay. >> Yes. Which I'm moving it to that day to allow for more people to attend. Um, Mr. City Manager, I mean, attorney. >> Yeah, I was just going to mention to to the city clerk's point though, the way that the resolution's been drafted, it's
uh changing it to a date to be determined within the month of May each year. So, that would give you flexibility since every year it's going to be a different date. It's just that year set it at a different date. So, the way the resolution is written allows for that flexibility. >> Yes.
>> Currently, >> no, no, that before you right now. Yes. Okay. >> It's changing it from essentially the first Sunday in May to a date to be determined in May, which gives you that flexibility if you want. >> So, we've we've had this resolution
pass. I'm not asking for any other change or modification except as to the date. The event itself will be exactly the same and everyone in the city is invited to attend. >> So, I had my reservations with this
event originally. Um, I told you the first time you did it, which I believe was last year, and you had the five rabbis and you did a >> No, no, no. That was >> two years ago. Maybe >> that was >> Hold on. Just here, just let me Okay, that that was you had Mayor Lavine Cabba
here and it was solidarity. Uh, you called it something solidarity. I don't remember now, but it was really nice. That was really, really nice. and it was a proclamation and and and I really felt that that brought the community together and and I would have preferred if you
kept it at that level, but you kept moving the goalpost and then it's going to be Yes. But Commissioner Joseph, >> you said can we then can we then have some cupcakes at the at the at the event and then can it be an event and then let's do it through a resolution and now let's make it an annual event and then you pick the date and now you want it to
coincide and you know and it's like we want to be inclusive. We know everybody can attend, but and you and you went through this whole thing about how it's not religious and and again, if I'm using the wrong words, I apologize, but you were saying it's Jewish versus
jewelry. Is was that the right word? Like >> I'll get back into >> Well, no, because that's that is what this resolution rests on. That this is not religious. This is cultural in some way, right? And now we can't have it because it's conflicting with something
religious. The devout people can the devout people will will not be able the particularly devout people the orthodox again I apologize if it's not the right vocabulary are not going to be able to attend on the Sunday that you designated and now you want it to align with a
holiday and that makes it religious Jerry. So I'm a I'm a no on that. No, >> because we are you and you know my you know I care about but there were other commission >> try to be accommodating and inclusive
but also uphold the separation right and we've had this conversation in in different ways. So I think now that careful what do you like you you threaded that needle super super carefully and now
it's coming undone. No, >> no, I you're you're twisting it to make it >> I'm almost done. I promise you I'm almost done. >> Yes. >> So, not only am I on No, because now it's it's floating into religious territory.
I I would I would argue that we should uh amend it also with regards to it being annually. I think this can be in the budget as long as it re we can keep it um we can keep it cultural, I guess. But um but I think
that we should have flexibility in there as well. Uh so I would I would um I would remove the annually component and let's see how it plays out because we've never done it. >> Okay. >> And if it's successful and we can keep it kosher and I say that and I say that
very tongue tongue and cheek. >> Okay. Wayne, one second, Commissioner Joseph. >> Then um you know I'm not saying eliminate the the the event. I think we've been planning it and it's worth a shot. I think it's premature to call it annually and I definitely don't think we should be moving it to a holiday because
then we're making it religious. >> Okay. >> And those are my two cents. >> Commissioner Lama, >> is there any other date that doesn't fall in the religious state? >> No, that is the date that we can have the most people attend. I spoken with
the rabbis and to have it on May 3rd, it would preclude Orthodox people from attending. So I said, "Let me bring it to the commission. I know uh Commissioner
Vascara has her uh unwarranted twist on this, which she voted no originally, so I'm not looking for her vote." But um the other commissioners that voted yes, they should realize that this is just a
date change. It's not an event change. It's only um at the recommendation of the rabbis, Rabbi Amar, Rabbi Ker, who said to me that if you want to have the most
religious people attend and not preclude them from attending, then you should make it on the 5th. And I don't see the issue. For me, it's um having it on Tuesday. I think
that probably less people would attend because it's a weekday, but I'm also looking to um try to include more people. It's not a matter of the holiday like
Commissioner Viscara is saying. Um >> I I don't even know if having it on the 5th would cause more people to attend. So, if it's going to be an issue, I'll just leave it the third. >> All right. >> And and we can just pull it.
>> No, I'm just trying to understand. We had talked about May and now you're talking about a date in May that's a religious holiday, right? >> No, it's not. It's >> It says a joyous Jewish holiday
celebrated on the third day of the Omare Count 18th of >> No, I'm just trying to understand. But but Jerry, so so can can it be in June or is May what's >> people leave for uh to go back up north the further you get into the summer?
>> Yeah, but I mean school doesn't get out till >> No, I'm not looking to have it be in June. You know what? Let's just pull it and I'll keep >> I'm just trying to understand. So >> that's it. Okay, we'll just pull it and keep the third. Thank you very much. I would like to make a motion to remove
the word annually. >> No, from it's already I I pulled the motion. >> So, it stands the way it is. You can't remove anything. >> Okay. Wait, wait. Can we please uh >> f first of all, >> I want to pull the item. Mauricio, wait. >> It's been added. It's been added to the agenda. So, you guys voted this into the
agenda, right? Exactly. Remove it. Yeah, but it's not it wasn't put on for >> but if the city commission voted to put it on the agenda. So if it's going to be removed on the agenda, the commission would have to vote on that. >> All right. So are you you're making a motion to remove it?
>> I'm making a motion to remove it. >> Okay. All right, Mauricio. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> To remove the item. Right. Remove the item. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro. No, we we already discussed it. How are we removing it
after we've discussed it? >> Commissioner Styver. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Lama. >> No. >> Mayor Fetchin. >> No. >> The motion to remove fails 3 to two. >> All right. So now we need to take a vote
on the item. No. >> But you want to amend? I want to Well, he says he doesn't want to do change the date now, but I would like to make a motion to remove the word annually. So, we're going to amend it. >> No, that's amend wait the word annually from from the existing resolution that
we're not whose date we're not changing apparently. Uh if if I can just add to this conversation um because I I agree with your illustration um and I I like the concept of having a day
of unity. However, putting it on Lag by Omar does make it religious spec and my concern is Lag by Omar has a very specific uh tradition which is bonfires. So there's things associated with this. Uh and I don't want to send the message
to the community that now the city is celebrating religious specific religious holidays unless we are willing to do all which I am supportive of. But I think we have to be very very careful um that we don't let those two blend in. The the
prohibition is not to attend, it's to uh have music and dancing. So you could have a day of unity as long if it didn't have any music or dancing, everyone could attend. It's the music and dancing that's prohibited during this time. Um, so it all depends. It all depends on the
kind of event you you put on. So you can technically have it on Sunday, leave it on Sunday and make it more of a solidarity with maybe presentations or so on so forth, just not the dancing. Um, but >> we can have the dancing just less people will attend. The the Orthodox people
will not attend. And if that's this is how it's going to be, we will just leave it on the third and have it be annually like it was agreed to by the commission except for Commissioner Viscara. >> All right. >> I heard uh twist.
>> Commissioner Joseph Commission Joseph stop please stop. >> Continue with it the way it was and leave it on the >> All right. Thank you. All right. So we have a motion. >> So I have a motion. Leave it on. leave it as it is, just remove the word annually because it can
stay in the budget, it can be considered. Um, but we don't have other things like this through resolution annually and I don't think we should be treating things differently. So, okay, >> that's my motion. >> So, motion is on the table to remove the
word annual. Um, do I have a second? Okay. So, now we're going to vote on um the the change as As >> as is as presented >> stays >> as presented, right? So we still have to vote on it. >> Nobody make a motion. >> Oh no, we don't. So we don't
>> it stays the way we No, >> no, no, no. The motion Commissioner Vice Mayor Visaro made a motion to amend the resolution to remove the word annually. >> Yeah, but that died. >> That motion died. >> But we still need to vote on this >> vote as it's presented. >> As is. Yes. >> If we have a motion, we don't. >> Right. Which was
>> okay. So I need a motion for this item. I still have a question. Does this date move for this holiday? >> Yes, >> it moves every year. >> Jewish holidays, Jewish holidays are not >> It's not according to the Roman calendar. It's according
>> to the Jewish calendar. >> Okay. So, next year it could be another. >> It would be on the 25th next year. >> But are you always going to have it on this religious date? >> That's what he's saying. Yes. >> And that's that's the issue. Uh Jerry, >> right? But he's already he said he's fine. That's it. I'm fine with having it
on the third. >> No, he we're just going through the the procedure because Commissioner Joseph has >> has said he doesn't want to. >> Okay. He wants to >> So, we're just going to vote now on on how it is. So, I need >> not to confuse the what you're about to
vote on though leaves it open in any time in May. >> The the original resolution that you've all preserved on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But that's fine that this the >> Yeah, that's fine. As long as you know Yeah. You're leaving it open-ended for May. >> All right. >> For the future, but this but this year
is going to stay on the third. >> It's right now changing it to it's open >> open. >> It It'll be open >> if there's a motion. >> Okay. So, do can I get >> If there's no motion, it stays with the old resolution. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Which is open. >> There's no motion and no second. It fails. September status quo. No, it's not the the resolution as it is right now. Not today. Yesterday. >> Right. So, as yesterday's mo yesterday's resolution has May 3rd.
>> Okay. >> The first Sunday in May. >> The first Sunday in May. >> If there's no if there's no motion tonight and no second that fails and status quo remains. So then that would be the first Sunday. >> All right. So for Okay. So for the resolution that's on the table, can I
get a motion? >> Item fails. Okay, next item. Thank you. >> Good. So, stand please. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> So, now we are on >> add-on. >> No, >> no, that was the
>> So, now we're on section 11, citizens forum. >> Citizens forum >> and we have David Virgil. >> Okay, for your >> Good evening at the end. >> Mayor, vice mayor and commission. My name is David Virgil. My address is
17500 Northbury Road, San Beach. I just want to say thank you for adding the time and the date to the streams. It makes it much easier to time keep. Now, I also want to say that the new city bus app has been working perfectly, unlike the old app which had a lot of issues.
So, I want to say thank you again. And also to go back to the water pumping stations, I would like to see them added as soon as possible. I know the cost has gone up a lot, >> but it would really help improve the quality of life in the central island
since the streets flood with little rain and now as we're going to the summer months, there's going to be more of that. So, in a few years, hopefully it could be resolved and >> it's going to be done correctly. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, David.
>> Vitali Falovich. My name is Povish. 9280 Southwest 167 Terrace from Me Bay, Florida. I wanted to say thank you for keeping Shy Beach safe on the holiday of a Passover. I've seen so many officers feel safe. You
know, when I come here for work or to visit the friend, I feel a lot more safer than I feel in Miami Beach. Yet, they have a bigger police department. One of the things that I wanted to ask is that why is it that certain cities have 51% of their budget goes to their
department of police department. I wonder why as I look at the budget here, why is it such small budget coming here? And another thing is that I'm very thankful for having the new vehicles in Zany Beach Police Department. And one of
the reasons why because because of so much patrol the vehicles were out very often and I asked that one of the detectives we can get unmarked vehicle for them because they're doing such amazing job and I'm definitely glad to be a visitor here. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No other speakers. >> All right. So we had some um items left over from the workshop. What we're going to do is we're going to adjourn this meeting and then we're going to reopen our workshop. >> Okay. All right. So, we're
>> uh mayor, before we close this meeting, just to remind the commission and and the public that next month's meeting, commission meeting, >> won't be on the third Thursday of the month as we normally do. It'll be on the 14th. >> Okay. And >> May 14th, which is the Thursday before. >> All right. Just let's just make sure
that we put it out there as often as possible. Okay. So, meeting adjourned. Part: 2
All right. Good afternoon, everyone. Uh, it's a little bit after three. Uh, I calling the meeting to order. Mauricio. >> Commissioner Joseph >> present. >> Commissioner Cyerson >> here. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro
>> here. >> Mayor Setchan >> here. All members present. >> Okay. Thank you. First item, please. >> First item on the agenda is a special presentation of a proclamation in recognition of autism acceptance month.
>> Vice Mayor. >> So, uh this is autism acceptance month and every year uh we bring this forward. Um I've tried to uh bring in organizations uh from the community. uh in we started with OMAS and we've also
presented to card and today we'll be presenting the proclamation to Autism Speaks uh we have uh Mr. Armando Urena here uh to accept on um their behalf he is with the executive leadership council of of Autism Speaks of South Florida. Uh
and so I'd like to read the um the proclamation and then then invite Mr. to come up and tell us about Autism Speaks and what um you know how autism is present in our community and to tell us about their services. Uh and then uh we'll we'll take some pictures. Okay, so
here's the proclamation. Uh whereas autism spectrum disorder ASD is a developmental disability that can cause significant social communication and behavioral challenges. And whereas autism is defined by a certain set of behaviors and is a spectrum condition
that affects people differently and to varying degrees. And whereas diagnosis of ASD now includes several conditions that were previously diagnosed separately such as autistic disorder, pervasive developmental disorder, and Asperger syndrome. And whereas
approximately one in 36 children have been identified with ASD in the United States according to the center for disease uh control and prevention and an estimated over 60 million individuals world worldwide are living with autism
making it one of the fastest growing developmental disorders in the world. And whereas individuals with ASD have unique abilities, talents and perspectives that enrich our communities, workplaces and society as a whole. And whereas individuals with ASD face significant barriers to accessing
appropriate education, health care, employment, and other essential services, and more work needs to be done to address these disparities. And whereas while there is currently no known single cause of ASD, early diagnosis can help a
person receive the support and services needed, which can lead to qual to a quality of life filled with opportunity. And whereas during the month of April, we as a city pledge to promote autism awareness, acceptance, and inclusion for all and will strive to ensure that each
person with ASD is provided an opportunity to achieve the highest possible quality of life. Now, therefore, does the city commission of the city of Sunny Isles Beach uh hereby proclaims the month of April 26 as autism acceptance month in the city of
Sunny Beach. And um so so if Mr. Jordan will come forward and as he does that I wanted to also uh acknowledge I don't know how many of you guys saw the um the islander but on the front page was the announcement that um the international
board of credentiing and continuing education standards has designated Sunny Beach Police Department and Ocean Rescue Division as a certified autism center recognizing their commitment to better serving and engaging with autistic and sensory sensitive individuals. So, our
police, our ocean rescue, and our public spaces and events um are working with the um with the community to make sure that everybody can can participate. And with that, welcome >> to the podium, please.
>> So, thank you for this meaningful recognition on behalf of Autism Speaks uh and the families that we serve. Uh this truly matters. Autism affects one in 36 children in the United States. Uh therefore, it's not just a statistic,
but it's something that affects our neighbors, our friends, and for some of us, our families. The mission of Autism Speaks is fairly simple but powerful to create an inclusive environment, uh an inclusive world for individuals with
autism throughout their lifespan. Uh we are committed to advancing research, increasing understanding and acceptance and providing critical resources for individuals and families especially in the areas like early diagnosis, education, employment and
safety. This proclamation helps shine a light on the importance of acceptance, not just awareness, uh because inclusion changes lives. So thank you for standing with us and for helping us move this mission forward. Thank you. All right,
we're gonna take a picture. Yeah. And then would be a little awkward. I I want to recognize Commissioner Regalado that's in the audience. She's going to be speaking as as well, but uh why don't you come take a picture with us now? It's more appropriate. Thank you.
Yes, it is. is all together. So, while Commissioner Reglad is uh preparing to to speak, um please I I wanted to um acknowledge uh the vice
mayor for bringing this up because I think that you brought this up many many years ago as the first person um to bring this in front of the commission and since then I think this entire commission has brought at least one item or something in support of it. So so thank you for that. Um and I believe that Commissioner Joseph wanted to add
on to be added on to the proclamation. >> Yes. In uh years past, we've also had um a family friend of ours who has an autistic son, and she's actually uh Terry Basera. She uh has um has a
program that she actually taught our uh ocean rescue and police officers um regarding uh how to act around an autistic person. >> Yes. So, thank thank you uh please commissioner. Thank you. Thank you so
much. Uh it's a pleasure to be here with you. My name is Commissioner Raquel Regalado and I represent District 7 at the county commission. I served as a school board member before that. Uh but I'm here in my capacity as a very proud mother of two adults in the autism
spectrum. So, for those of you who know my story, uh my daughter Isabella was uh diagnosed um after many years uh a of being non-verbal and b because of her age. Uh back in in that era, women were
not diagnosed as often as men. And we know that autism actually and neurodeiversity does not see gender. So, thankfully, we've come a very long way. Um and then a few years later, my son Sebastian was also diagnosed. uh they are both very different in the spectrum
and they really have changed my perspective on life and made me a lifelong advocate for inclusion. Um so today I'm here to present um the Florida Neuroonlusion Toolkit. So, I created this and I'm taking it to all of our
cities and counties around the state. Um, so that you can look at what we've done in Miami Day County and what I've worked on in the last 10 years and incorporate some of the things that you're doing, but also copy some of the things because one of the things that is
happening is there's lots of businesses that are popping up and people that want to provide consulting to government on how to do this work. Um, and that's great, but I'd rather that you spend your resources actually doing the work. So, what the toolkit is, it has an
appendix with all the legislation, with all the work, with all the pilots, with the websites, with the data that we've done so that everyone can emulate it and add to it. And I'm here to talk to you about a few of those things. So, u,
first and foremost, thank you for being one of the first cities to focus on training. Training is infrastructure. And when we talk about inclusion and neurodeiversity specifically, one of the biggest challenges is that training because how a neurodeiverse
person experiences the world is very different from how a neurotypical person experiences the world. And even though I have two autistic children and April is about autism acceptance, I've broadened that scope to include neurodeiversity because a lot of autistic individuals
have more than one diagnosis. So my daughter for example um has a ADHD which is ADHD and autism. Um and a lot of autistic individuals have multiple neurodeiversities and that's actually very common. So in the world of
neurodeiversity we have neurological uh delay which is everything from dyslexia to you know to autism uh to Tourette's. We have um downs obviously and epilepsy and there's a series of um there's a
series of co-regulations there and then we also have at the very top of that spectrum people who have traumatic brain injury right so you can actually become neurode divergent as a result of something that happens after birth and then on the other side we have folks that have neurological decline and that
includes dementia and Alzheimer's so a lot of this work really fits an enormous amount of human beings and allows us as elected officials to really provide so many people in our community with support. None of the things that I've
done have created any new systems. Everything is within existing systems. And I think that that's very important not just at this moment but throughout because government was really created in terms of providing services with neurotypical people in mind. And what
I've done is find a way to change that so that we can service uh people that are not neurotypical and give them the same access. One of my first projects was all of our libraries. I joked with my colleagues at the time that as a parent of two autistic children, if you
told me to meet you at a library, I would ask you why you hated me. Libraries are not welcoming places for neural difficult for neurode divergent people. But now in Miami date county, they are. Every single one of our libraries, all the staff is trained. We have social stories for every single
one. We have sensory spaces. We have sensory activities. And we've really gone out of our way to make these public spaces accessible to everyone in Miami Date County. Um in here I also have a lot of different tools that we've used at the county. So one of the county's
first programs was MIA air. And that is a program where um to any resident in Miami date county, we provide a dress rehearsal experience through the airport. You get your ticket, you board, you board the airplane, you visit our sensory room, you sit in the airplane,
you meet the pilot. That way the f the when you go for an actual flight, it's not the first time. It comes with a social story and it comes with a sunflower lanyard. And this is a lanyard that we use for uh invisible disabilities and it's actually used
internationally and we use it in transit also. So I would recommend it you know to you all. We at our we give them away from for our office and the airport actually gives them away also. But it's really important and we use it for dementia and Alzheimer's also. And what
we trained people to recognize is if you see the lanyard and you see someone now you know how to approach them should they need some assistance. Um last year we launched our um special needs occupant with autism registration and sticker. This is available countywide.
So far with NSU card, we have trained 4,120 first responders in Miami date county. It has been a herculean task to train so many individuals and we've trained them um with CARD and also as part of that
training they've met individuals with autism and heard their perspective of their interactions with police and fire and that's really been the transformative part. The registration through the sheriff's office now since they're independent from Miami date county allows you as a parent or as a
caregiver to give the location of your home and to provide information for deescalation for that particular adult. And you can by name, what their needs are, should the parent be there, who to ask for, what are words that may trigger
them. And this is information that is accessible through 911 to anyone. Uh the sheriff this year added the registration of cars to this decal. So now you could register your vehicle. So you can put the decal in your car. You can put it in your home and now the registration works
for your home and for your vehicle. Of course it's completely uh voluntary. Last year we also rolled out with the tax collector's office our neuroincclusion days at our fair on the 25th. the tax collector is going to be there. And we um we help neurode
divergent adults and their families get IDs. IDs are so important, especially now um with real ID. You can't travel without a Florida ID. And as an individual in Florida, you can get an ID as young as 5 years old. For over a
decade, we've been asking the state to allow us to put disabilities on IDs. And now that's possible. So now with just a few um documents from your neurologist, you can put autism spectrum disorder or just disability if you choose on your Florida ID. And it's a gamecher for our
families because you no longer have to worry about another card or another identification. And if they travel internationally, it qualifies as an internationally recognized document that proves their disability. Because as you know, you meet one autistic person, you
just met one autistic person. Um, the other thing that the toolkit does is provide how to do social stories and how to create sensory events. Um, sensory friendly events are so important um, for residents of Miami date county. Whenever we do events, we try to incorporate a
sensory aspect. Um, I've done um, mobile sensory units that we have as part of the county's outdoor events, but also sensory rooms in places like the youth fair and other county facilities. But something as simple as dimming the lights and turning off the music can
make something sensory friendly. And that's just something that I we we talk about in terms of more accessibility. Um fireworks, for example, not the best. Drones are better, right? There's a lot of things, you know, providing folks
with kits if you are going to have events. You know, can you buy some earplugs? Can you consider kind of sensory hours? The youth fair this year actually did sensory hours for us on Saturdays and Sundays from 12:00 to 3 and even the neurotypical people appreciated it. Um, and you know when we
talk about dementia and Alzheimer's although people usually recognize that neurodeiversity because someone is forgetting things that's usually the secondary um um you know condition. The first one is sensory overload and
overwhelm. And and so when we talk about the elderly, sensory friendly events are also a wonderful opportunity to have them and their families participate just by being a little bit more thoughtful about those activities. Um so this is the toolkit. Um it's available online.
Here's the QR code. We'll pass them out to you. I'm here to answer any and all questions that you may have if you're interested in doing this work. It also includes the work that we're doing with job placement and zero drowning. Um zero drowning is um an initiative that Miami
date county has and I made sure to include autistic children and adults because it is the number one cause of death for all ages uh of of people who are diagnosed within the autism spectrum. Water is sensory released for them and they're drawn to it. So, we're
we're moving towards a countywide and statewide effort to teach them how to swim and prevent those fatalities. Um, and obviously, um, everything from transit to libraries to parks is in here. Uh, and, um, and adult training
and employment. So we have also tweaked our employment at the county, our internships, the way that we interview so that people who are neurodeiverse have an opportunity instead of focusing our hiring on eye contact and communication actually letting them do
the work. And I've worked with the Kendall Learning Academy and with Easter Seals creating programming throughout the county because the last thing we want to do is graduate our neurode divergent adults to the couch. It's not good for them. It's not good for their mental health. And unlike an elderly person that can go home and be taken
care of by someone, the idea of after 20 years of having access to community and education, being sent home and staying there for 35, 40, 50 years is something that our community should not be doing. We know that it leads to schizophrenia,
that it leads to a lot of other mental issues. So where the big push now as we go into October is for disability employment opportunities and volunteer opportunities at all levels in government and in the private sector and more adult programming that really
recognizes that these are individuals that are going to live into their 80s and 90s. They can be productive and productivity doesn't look the same for everyone. Adulthood includes employment whether that employment is three hours or 40. And we just want the opportunity
to have our children participate in community. I will tell you 15 years ago I would have given anything to have neurotypical children. Today I wouldn't change a thing about them. They are wonderful human beings. They have made me a better human being. Uh they have lovely minds and Miami date county has
led for so many years as a place that is welcoming and diverse. We have diversity of culture. We have diversity of language. You know we have diversity of race. And what I think we should all focus on next is, you know, intellectual diversity. People can think differently and it's actually a beautiful thing.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah. >> Anytime. And if you have any questions happy to you covered a lot. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you so much. >> Thank you for coming. We appreciate it. >> Our pleasure. >> Okay. Next item on the agenda is a presentation of a proclamation presented
for Jewish American Heritage Month. And >> so this is my item. Um I believe that we have done this almost every year since I could remember. Uh but I'm going to go ahead and read the proclamation. Jewish American Heritage Month is a time to recognize and celebrate the
invaluable contributions of Jewish Americans to our nation's history, culture, and achievements. And whereas the city of Sunal's Beach has always strived to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion of all its residents, stakeholders, and visitors alike. And whereas the Jewish community has played
a significant role in shaping the fabric of American society, enriching our nation with their diverse backgrounds, talents, and traditions. And whereas Jewish Americans have made substantial contributions to various fields including science, medicine, academia,
literature, arts, entertainment, business, technology, and public service, greatly impa impacting the progress and prosperity of our nation. And whereas Jewish American leaders and visionaries have tously advocated for social justice, equity, equality, and
civil rights, promoting a more inclusive and tolerant society for all Americans. And whereas Jewish Americans have demonstrated a remarkable resilience, determination, and perseverance in the face of adversity, embodying the spirit of the American dream and inspiring generations with their stories of
triumph over hardship. And whereas the Jewish community has enriched the cultural landscape of the United States through their vibrant traditions, festivals, music, and culinary heritage, contributing to the diversity that defines our nation. And whereas JHM provides an opportunity for
all Americans to deepen their understanding of Jewish heritage, history, and values, fostering dialogue, mutual respect, and appreciation for the contributions of Jewish Americans. Now therefore, do I, Lorissa, as mayor, and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Als Beach, Florida, hereby
proclaim the month of May as Jewish American Heritage Month in the city of Sunny Als Beach. Um I just want to say that overall as a commission we have been very supportive of uh not just our Jewish community but the Jewish community um u worldwide through uh
various uh resolutions, proclamations and even um events. Um and I want to add that uh Commissioner Joseph is also adding his name to this proclamation. Thank you. Uh so I don't know if you wanted to say a few words. Um, I actually um
as a full supporter, 100% supporter of Israel and um I'm 100% um committed to having the Sunny Isles Beach community. Um we have an event
planned for uh the beginning of May to bring the entire community together for one day which uh has never happened before. Uh we have different uh congregations and synagogues that celebrate events separately, but I'm
hoping for May 5th to have um everyone come together and non-Jewish people as well are invited to join us to celebrate um the achievements of um the Jewish
community worldwide and also um as one entire community to celebrate togetherness within Sunny Isles. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Go ahead, Mauricio.
>> Next item is to see presentation of a proclamation recognizing administrative professionals day. And I'll leave that proclamation into the record. proclamation reads, "Whereas Administrative Professionals Day observed on April 22nd, 2026 is part of
Administrative Professionals Week, which recognizes the vital contributions that administrative professionals in workplaces across the nation. And whereas administrative professionals serve as the backbone of efficient and effective operations within government, business, and nonprofit organizations,
providing essential support that ensures the smooth delivery of services to the public. Whereas these dedicated individuals demonstrate professionalism, adaptability, and commitment to excellence while managing complex tasks, coordinating communications, and
supporting leadership and organizational goals. Whereas the city of Sunny Al Beach recognizes the invaluable contributions of its own administrative professionals whose diligence and dedication enhance the quality of municipal services and support the mission of the city. And whereas it is a
fitting and proper to set aside a day to honor and express appreciation for administrative professionals and to acknowledge the important role they play in strengthening organizations and communities. Now therefore, Dwi, Mr. Fetch and as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al
Beach hereby proclaim April 22nd 2026 as administrative professionals day in the city of Sunny Al Beach. >> Okay. Thank you. The next item is 2D proclamation for National Water Safety
Month. And that proclamation reads, "Whereas water safety is a critical public health issue, particularly in coastal communities such as the city of Sunny House Beach, where residents and visitors enjoy access to beaches, pools, and waterways year round. And whereas drowning remains one of the leading
causes of unintentional injury related death especially among young children and is preventable through education awareness and the implementation of proper safety measures. Whereas National Water Safety Month serves as an opportunity to raise awareness about the importance of water safety practices
including constant supervision, learning to swim, wearing life jackets, and understanding water conditions. Whereas organizations such as the American Red Cross, the National Drowning Prevention Alliance, and local public safety agencies work year round to promote water safety education, providing
life-saving training, and advocate for s for a safer aquatic environment. And whereas the city of Sunny Al Beach is committed to promoting the safety and well-being of its residents and visitors by supporting water safety initiatives, encouraging swim education, and
recognizing the vital role of lifeguards and first responders in preventing water related incidents. And whereas by working together as a community to prioritize water safety, we can help reduce the risk of drowning and ensure that everyone can safely enjoy our beautiful coastal environment. Now
therefore do I suspend and as mayor and on behalf of the commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach speech hereby proclaim May 2026 as water as national water safety month in the city of Sunny speech. >> Okay. >> To E is a proclamation
um recognizing building safety month. That proclamation reads, "Ras the city of Sunny Beach is committed to ensuring the safety, health, and welfare of its residents, businesses, and visitors through the enforcement of safety building codes and
standards. And whereas building safety month is an international campaign celebrated each May to raise awareness about the importance of modern, regularly updated building codes and the role they play in protecting the lives of property. And whereas safe buildings are essential to resilient communities,
particularly in coastal cities such as the city of Sunny House Beach, where structures must withstand environmental challenges, including hurricanes, flooding, and rising sea levels. And whereas building safety professionals, including inspectors, plan examiners, engineers, architects, contractors, and
code officials work diligently to ensure that buildings are constructed and maintained in accordance with the highest safety standards. Whereas the observance of building safety month led by the international code council promote promotes public education on
building building safety disaster preparedness and the critical role of quote compliance in safeguarding communities. And whereas the city of San Beach speech recognizes the importance of educating residents and property owners about building safety practices, permit requirements, and the value of
working with licensed professionals to ensure safe construction and maintenance. And whereas supporting building safety month, the city reaffirms its commitment to strengthening community resilience, promoting safe construction practices, and protecting the lives and property of
all who live, work, and visit Sunny House Beach. Now, therefore, Dwire Lissa Fetchin as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunnyhouse Beach, Florida, hereby proclaim May 2026 as building safety month in the city of Sunnyhouse Beach. The next item is proclamation for
National Police Week. That proclamation reads, "Whereas National Police Week is observed throughout the United States in May to honor the dedicated law enforcement officers who serve and protect our communities and to recognize those who have made the ultimate
sacrifice in the line of duty. Whereas members of the Sunny Al Beach Police Department demonstrate unwavering commitment, courage, and professionalism in safeguarding the lives and property of residents and visitors while fostering trust and partnerships within the community. Whereas law enforcement
officers face significant risks and challenges in performance of their duties, often placing themselves in harm's way to ensure the safety and well-being of others. Whereas it is fitting and proper to recognize the service and sacrifice of police officers and to express our gratitude for their
tireless efforts to maintain peace, uphold the law and protect the constitutional rights of all individuals. Now therefore, Dwight Lur suspend as mayor on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach hereby proclaim May 10th through the 16th as national police week in the city
of Sunny Al Beach. >> Is there a typo on the next item has the same title? >> Yes. Yes, that is a typo. So it should read >> 2G should read a proclamation recognizing public service recognition week.
That proclamation reads. >> Whereas take a drink first. >> Good. Thank you. Whereas public service recognition week is observed during the first full week of May and honors the dedicated men and women who serve our nation as federal, state, county, and
local government employees. Whereas public servants play a vital role in ensuring the health, safety, and well-being of our community through the delivery of essential services, including public safety, infrastructure, education, and administrative support.
And whereas the city of Sun Beach is proud to recognize the commitment, professionalism, and integrity of its employees who work diligently each day to enhance the quality of life for residents, businesses, and visitors. And whereas public service recognition week provides an opportunity to express
appreciation for the often unseen efforts of public employees who work whose work is essential to the functioning government and the strength of our community. And whereas it is fitting and proper to acknowledge the contributions of all public servants and to encourage continued excellence in
service to the public. I therefore do either suspension as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of sunspe florida hereby proclaim May 3rd through May 9th 2026 as public service week in the city of sun speech. >> And the last proclamation last but not
least is 2 a proclamation for family resource day. You want me to Okay, I'll read that proclamation and then Myra will have a few words. That proclamation reads, "Whereas the city of Sunnyos Beach is committed to
promoting the well-being, stability, and quality of life of its residents by providing access to programs, services, and resources that support individuals and families. And whereas Sunny Al Beach Family Resource Day is a special community event hosted by the city to bring together a variety of city and
community services designated to support and benefit its residents. And whereas this event serves as as an opportunity for residents to learn more about available resources, connect with service providers, and discover programs that can enhance health, safety,
education, and overall family wellness. And whereas Sun's Beach family resource day reflects the city's continued dedication to fostering a connected, informed, and supported community through meaningful outreach and engagement. And whereas events such as this strengthen the bonds within the
community and demonstrate the city's commitment to serving residents of all ages and backgrounds. Now therefore, do I Lissa Fetchin and as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Alb, Florida hereby proclaim the March 20 March 12, 2026 as
family resource day. >> Good afternoon mayor and commissioners. Myra Alimma, chief of staff. So this proclamation is especially meaningful to me as family resource day is something very close to my heart. It's actually kind of like a full circle as I was going through my MPA program. Um this is
something I focused on. So see it come to life in the community is very meaningful. Um it reflects our commitment to connecting, informing and engaging our residents through a familyfriendly event. During this event, we bring together a wide range of resources from county and the state
while all city departments participate and showcase in an engaging and interactive way the valuable resources we provide to our community. Our media team prepared a recap video which I will share to help illustrate the impact of this video of this event.
Thank you. >> Thank you. It's really amazing. It was a great event, Myra. Thank you so much for all your work on this. >> We can take a picture with the proclamation, please. Okay, >> now for the main event. >> Next one is a presentation by the Florida Department of Transportation
regarding the Leman Causeway project development and environment study. Good afternoon, major and commissioners. I'm Jessica Cruz. I'm the FDOT project manager for the Willing Leman Cosway PDN study. And I have here with me Roberto
Gutierrez. He's the consultant project manager for this project and also Veronica Paredes. She's the community outreach specialist for this one. Thank you very much for having us here today to present this project. Do you have the slides?
Can you go to the next slides please for this one? There you go. Um so our team will be presenting today the project location why the project's needed um and the PDN study and process process and objectives. At the end we'll conclude
with the next steps and welcome all your feedback. The project involves the potential modification of State Road 856, also known as Wheeling Leman Causeway, to support additional non-motorized accommodations such as share use path
and or dedicated bicycle pedestrian facilities. The project includes one bridge that acts as a point of connection between the coastal communities of Sunnyo Beach and Golden Beach and the mainland city of Aventura. The specific limits of the project
extends from state road 5 also known as the US1 and as Biscane Boulevard to the state road I a1A or also known as Collings Avenue in Miami day county for approximately 1.7
1.7 miles. We would like to highlight the FDOT compass initiative. FDOT is dedicated to maintaining and enhancing the state's infrastructure to meet the needs of both residents and visitors now and in the future. The department focuses on
critical areas like communities, safety, resiliency, supply chain, and workforce development. To achieve this, FDOT recognized the unique needs of each community and it strives to create a transportation system that improves connectivity, encases the quality of
life and aligns with a shared community vision. Roberto will now present the key project information and current progress in the coming next steps. Good afternoon, Mayor Commissioner As Jessica mentioned, um,
next slide. So, the purpose and need of this project is really to accommodate pedestrian bicycle activity and also um improve the the connection between the mainland and the >> just a little bit. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> And most important, safety is is part of
our purpose in need. Please note that capacity improvements are not part of the purpose and need. The main focus of this study is to provide that connectivity from for the entire limits of the William Layman causeway to accommodate pedestrian and bicycle activity and safety.
This is the transportation project delivery process. Uh we are in the second stage of the fifth stage to construction which is called PDNE project development environment study. Here is really where we look at all the engineering alternatives. We look at uh avoiding minimizing or mitigating
environmental impacts associated with the alternatives and also comply with NEPA which is the national um environmental policy act and at the same time public involvement which is the reason why we're here presenting to the to the city today. When it comes to the actual PD study
process, we are let's call it somewhere in the middle. We started early 2025. We had our kickoff meeting back in May of 2025. Right now, as you can see, we are here in the engineering and environmental analysis where we're coming up with alternatives and laying out all the
details to be able to present this to the public at a later date at our alternative workshop. And then after that, we're aiming to finalize the the project um at the end of 2027. This slide is very busy. Uh as you could tell, there are a lot of constraints with this project. We have segmented it
into two segments. Segment one is from the beginning of the project at um US1 to West Country Club Drive. We're calling this the at grade segment. This is where we're anticipating a shared path at grade on the ground either on the north or south side of the causeway.
And then segment two we're calling the bridge segment. This is really where the facility starts um going up going over the intra coastal meeting the vertical and horizontal clearances to to reach uh the side of Sunny Al Beach all the way to A1A.
Some of the existing conditions as you can tell there is a um lack of pedestrian and bicycle connectivity within the causeway because it is a limited access facility. There is no uh bicycle pedestrian connectivity from um US1 to West Country Club Drive and there
is a lack of pedestrian connectivity for the remainder of the causeway from West Country Club Drive all the way to Sunny Al Beach. As Jessica mentioned, we have a big constraint here with the Inter Coastal uh bridge going over the Inter Coastal meeting that 65 foot clearance. Um that
will be one of the challenges with this project to be able to to accommodate that shared path and also meet the the requirements to cross this um in coastal. From the engineering side, we'll look at everything related to the to the engineering side when it comes to drainage, structures, lighting and
everything else. Main focus here is our alternative analysis process where we are going to evaluate everything that was done in the past. There's a long history with this project and we'll also be looking at new build alternatives that are that um are either going to be in the north or south side of the
causeway or even within the median of the causeway as well. From the environmental side, we'll be looking at all the social cultural effects um cultural resources, natural resources and physical effects associated with alternatives that we'll be looking into.
And the public outreach is very important um part of this project. As as you guys know, this project pretty much came up came from the request of both cities of Aventura and Sunny Alles Beach. One item I wanted to highlight here is really our project advisory
group that we have for this project. It's really a group of champions that are that are be supporting and helping us with the outreach of this project throughout throughout the PD study. We held our first PAG meeting back in summer of 25. Um and um we had
representatives from both the city of Sunny Al Beach, uh city of Aventura, the police department, the Aventura mall, very key um stakeholders within the the project area. And from the schedule side, as I mentioned, we began back in the
beginning of 2025. We are ramping up to um present all alternatives at the alternative workshop and then our public hearing aiming to be in the summer of 2027 and then from there finalizing the project at the end of 2027. And in the meanwhile, we'll still be holding
additional PG meetings throughout the life of the project as well. And with that, I'll open it up for questions. And I have we have two QR codes here. Um if you guys want to uh find out more information about the project takes you straight to the
website. Also we have a survey if you guys want to have additional feedback when it comes to the >> I just want to make sure that that's going to stay up so that anyone online can can access it. Okay. Please you have questions. Go ahead. >> So are you intending to build a
protected lane or an elevated lane? What is the proposal? >> Yes. As as you noticed the the design speed is 55 mph. So the the there is fastoving cars moving along here this limited access facility. So the goal is to provide a what we call a barrier separated shared use path. And what that
entails is having a barrier separating the the vehicular traffic and the pedestrians and bicyclist. >> So yes it will be barrier separated. >> Okay. So I know previously there had been a proposal to FDOT from a sunny beach resident Ken Percy. Yes, madam on
Tuesday. >> Yes. Oh, excellent. Okay. So, you know about the elevated tram and there's also the same type of um allowance for bicycles and pedestrians to walk on his tramway. >> Correct. >> Yeah. So, is that something that that
actually seems like more viable option because how much is your budget for this whole thing? >> How much is what I'm talking >> your budget? >> Budget. Well, we're not we have a budget for the actual PDN study, >> right? But there would be a co >> there will be a construction cost.
Correct. Right. Right now, we're we're working on all the alternatives and the different all the alternatives are very different. We're talking about widening alternatives or providing a brand new standalone bridge just for the shared pass. So, the cost is going to vary depending on what alternative moves was forward. >> Yeah. So, in light of that, is Ken
Percy's project looking better to you? Well, Karen Ken's project is is a little bit different in in in the way that it extends all the way down um A1A all the way down to pretty much the beginning and pedestrians. >> Correct. So, our facility, what I could
say is that our facility would match with his idea of having that connectivity all throughout Sunny Als Beach, >> right? >> From, you know, north of Hollowover Park all the way to to Armenura. >> And it would also assist getting people to the mall and to the Bright Line.
>> Correct. So, so the goal is to have that connectivity from, you know, the the coastal side to the mainland side. >> Obviously, you have infrastructure already, sidewalks on both sides on A1A and US1. >> So, the goal is to connect to that. Um, we are in in constant coordination with
other agencies. We know Bright Line is looking at building a bridge, pedestrian bridge crossing from Bright Line to Aventura. >> So, we're aware of that. where aware everything that the Sunny House Beach um public works is is is working on when it comes to the areas underneath the bridge and their new their new storage facility
that's currently being built. So, we've been in in in contact with all the key stakeholders to make sure that we provide that connectivity. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Does anyone else have questions? Vice Mayor? >> Yes. So, this doesn't in any way impact
the current use of the space under the bridge. This is this is basically just adding that that safety lane for pedestrians. That that's it. >> That's the challenge. So the challenge is there's there's many ways you can skin a cat, right? So as I mentioned, you could widen the bridge to
accommodate the sheriff's path. You could provide a brand new standalone bridge that would have columns coming down in those areas. As you saw from the map, that has a lot of circles. There's a lot of constraints including all the areas underneath the bridge being used on both sides of the inter coastal. So
the challenge is to minimize those impacts as much as possible but we are looking at alternatives that altogether avoid having any kind of new foundations or piles within those areas to minimize those impacts. >> Okay. So you're widening the the leman >> so that there would still be a shoulder
>> correct >> for the for the vehicles. Okay. >> Correct. I um did not walk to Country Club Drive once. Uh it was enough um to and from uh it's incredibly dangerous. Uh and I'm
surprised um at how I see people on it every day on their scooters, on their bikes, or sometimes just walking. Uh and it's um it is a lack of connectivity. Uh there is I think the mall employs a lot of people. There's a lot of there's
schools and and you know and jobs. I I'm I personally work in Aventura as well. So I take the leave and that's why I see these people all the time. Uh um and I can tell you that that one time I I cured me. There is no way that I that I would ever purposely do. I mean it's
because my car ran out of gas or something that I would have no other option but to do that. Um it is very dangerous. We have a lot of distracted drivers and and I mean it was it was frightening. I could not wait to get off it. So, uh this is a good um this is
this is good, but um it does take time and uh you know, we hear people complain sometimes. It's like, oh, things don't move fast enough, but you you want to do it right. You want to do the studies and just widening it and adding a lane takes
years, >> right? >> Um so, I just wanted to mention that it's not just us. That's just how things work. So, thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> Commissioner Stevenson, any questions? >> Yeah, I have a few comments. Um, so it
was in July 2023, almost three years ago when it came do the presentation. So, I want to understand a little bit about the process because you you said that um the city requested to be part of this conversation >> many years ago. Yes. >> Okay. I I want to understand a little
bit more about how we got to that. maybe not by you, by the city staff how we got there because like I said three years ago we brought up that conversation um came came in he did his presentation
um three year later we are in the same but we just lost that time so I just want to understand a little bit of the process how we got there >> Peter m I could sure um >> so there's a long timeline here with this project and I will go back all the
way to 2012 where DOT looked at a pilot program to add bicycle um usage on the shoulders of limited access facilities. There were three of them that they they used as pilot programs. The causeway being one of them. That was back in
2012. That pilot program probably ran two years. They did additional studies to make sure that um understanding the safety associated with having those bicyclist for those two years there. Um and that safety study came out in 2014. The bicycle
usage maintained to this day that you see the markings on the shoulders. So to this day, bicyclists are allowed to use the shoulders on the causeway. Um there was a MO um excuse me, TPO mandate TPO study that was done I want to say maybe
2020. I may be wrong with the dates, but back then that was a larger area that was covered by the entire county. Looking at improving multimmo connectivity from the coastal to the mainline throughout the entire county we're talking about all the way from
Miami Beach all the way to to the limits of a county and in there the causeway was spread up as one of the areas that may be used to improve connectivity from the mainland to the coastal. um from that resulted in um the involvement of
both cities of city of Arena and city of Sunny House Beach to make sure that DOT continues that investigation on how we can provide that connectivity. So it's a long history. >> So So you guys reach out to us? >> Well, the cities reached out to the um
TPO and the TPO obviously works with the with the >> That's what I don't believe. Maybe you are the person to answer my question. I want to know how we got there us because like I said three years ago uh Ken was completely dismissed when he came and he did his presentation. Uh we lost three
years of having this conversation. Uh he was also in conversation back then with TPO and he went there and he met everybody who was in the in the in the board back then. I remember because I was there when he was there.
That was in 2023. And that's my point. We lost three years of being able to do something uh knowing that we have that problem. You I know that you are aware by now because we had that conversation about that what we had to do with the scooters here inside our city. So this
is being part of a long conversation. My point is that is not that government moves slow, people move slow and by design by not making the decision that they have to do when they have the ability to. So my point is that I want to know uh how we got to um work with
you guys. I want to understand the process internally from the city staff who reach out to and when. My question is why the project that we had three years ago just to start the conversation was completely dismissed. Uh and now we are having this conversation
>> and that's not with you but thank you >> by the city the city. >> Okay. So just to get clarification, Commissioner, you're asking the city manager when there was the first conversation about having a bike path. >> No, no, no, not when to have it. Uh when we start having the conversation with
the consultants to start being part because when uh Ken was here back in 2023, I watched the video today to just refresh. uh he was also in conversation as well with Aventura and now like I said we lost three years because we have somebody willing to start all this and
we completely dismiss and he's a world renown renown uh expert into this uh so my question is right now uh when is it that we suddenly decide that we want to be part of this project >> okay um
>> yeah can I just say something >> let let uh the city manager answer that question if he can because I don't know if there's an actual date that you can identify. >> I don't I don't have a date exactly >> though. We have a year. >> I think the gentleman explained when did you say it started? In 2012,
>> correct? Well, the the entire need of of addressing bicyclist and pedestrians, well, bicyclists at that time was in 2012. Um, but one thing to add, the the scope of Ken's project is very different than the scope >> Oh, I know. No, definitely. Completely. You got to keep in mind and when I'm talking about the 2012, it's only been
within the limited access DOT rightway that we're talking about. >> Well, I guess there are emails or communications with you guys between you guys. So, at some point just to start this conversation, it has to be a preliminary uh meeting. And so, if we
don't have it right now, I would like to know when do we start? uh because like I said uh we should have now lost this three years of of being part of this conversation. So um and and we at least do we know which year we start this
conversation last year, two years ago, three year and you guys are being paid by the state, by the county, by the city. Uh where is the funding coming from? >> So let me give you a little bit more background. So um so 2020 NPO identified the need between
2020 and before we started as the PD in the beginning of 2025 internally DOT and the MO excuse me >> TBO >> looked at several physibility studies on how to fix this problem. It's a problem because it's a challenge
to accommodate. >> Absolutely. >> This is a limited access facility. This is not an arterial. This is not A1A. This is not US one. In a limited access facility, you're not supposed to have pedestrians at all. Even bicyclist. Bicyclists are supposed to be in a separate facility for safety reasons.
So, it's not unfortunately there's not a quick solution for this project. >> Correct. >> And there was efforts by DOT and the TPO to look at different visibility studies internally to see how this can be accommodated. part of our slides when it comes to alternative analysis included
looking at planning alternatives and that's what I meant by planning alternatives everything that was looked at from 2020 to 2025 includes that analysis that we are doing as part of the PD where we're looking at everything that was done in the past all the different alternatives that were done in
the past um and the this PDNE is being funded by um federal dollars by by the state by excuse me by DOT so um we are getting paid obviously from DOT side as a consultant to be able to do this PDN. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Did you have one? >> Yes. So, I'd just like to say that um I actually in 2023 sponsored Ken's proposal um it would came before the Sunny Isles Commission. It was supposed to go the next day or the actually um the next
month to Aventura, but when the Sunny Commission voted it down because the commission wasn't ready for this project, then Aventur ended up not voting on it at all. So that's what happened as far as Ken's project, but he
continued to push it through FDOT, which I believe it's a viable project, which would be beneficial and absolutely fit into your project because it wouldn't require any widening. >> Correct. Correct. Yeah, I had I had a great conversation with Ken on Tuesday
that we held our pop-up event at the Heritage Park. Um, great idea. Um but it is a broader scope, broader project area >> and like I said sunny >> combination with several cities >> wasn't ready at the time. I believe in the future will be ready. >> So a lot of parties involved in that
type of project. >> Okay. Vice Mayor did you have anything else? >> Uh only that I think these are two different conversations. Um this is a limited scope uh widening of the road which is welcome. I didn't know I wasn't
supposed to be on walking over there, but >> but like I said, I I I I learned it, you know, I I I learned it by living it, >> right? >> Um and the fact that, you know, uh you know, this this is federally funded. Uh
that's um that's music to our budget's ears. >> Um thank you. I just had some follow-up questions when when you were there. We had a brief conversation um just to get a sense of h the timing because uh and and how long it takes to do something
like this and why it's so important to do it correctly because it's meant to last for how long is it supposed to last? 75 years. >> Correct. Uh the typical lifespan of a bridge is 75 to 100 years. Yeah. >> And did you get an opportunity to find out when that bridge was put in? that
the existing bridge was constructed back about 45 years ago. >> 45 years ago. Okay. >> Um >> DOT has has a very extensive you know bridge inspection program. So that bridge is being inspected every year. There hasn't been any critical issues with any of the components from both
superructure or substructure of the of the bridge. So it's standing in good condition to >> No, I I meant that the the lifespan is is meant to be very long and when it was put in it was a very different Aventura was different. in Sunny House Beach was different. >> And to Vice Mayor's point about, you
know, people crossing over there, it just seems like there's more and more and more. And I actually, I think it was back uh when Commissioner Levan was here, she had worked to try to do some bike connectivity um to help that issue.
Um I I love this idea. I you know for me I think the idea of having a completely separate path so that it is completely dedicated to cyclist bicyclists and pedestrians um is is really important. You had said
at the popup that you had uh or maybe not you you said there were 90 people that had participated and that's between so far between us and Aventura but you have not come in front of Aventura yet. Um, we have met, you know, individual one-on-one meetings with with the city
manager and, um, Kevin. >> Yeah. I just I I want to, you know, make a point to whomever is is watching right now is that it's very important they participate, particularly the the people that live uh along the area that that is
going to be affected um once this this construction starts. And I know that it all depends on the design. I know that. So, >> I'm not looking to put you into a position where you're going to give me a number, but if if you were to say, and you know, you're a professional
engineer, if the difference between putting in a completely separate bridge uh versus what is currently there and putting in some sort of barrier um would how much
would that change? >> Well, the price difference will be large, >> significant, right? Significant. Federally, it's federally funded. >> Correct. But let's be clear that we have funds for this PD at this stage. Right. Right. The DOT is still trying to allocate the funds for the next few phases. >> Right.
>> So, it's obviously dependent on what's going to be built. >> Right. >> So, we're at that stage where we're looking at all the different alternatives. As you mentioned, having a standalone bridge is going to be very different cost than utilizing the existing typical that we have out there right now. um widening is even is even a a higher
cost as well because you still have to bring columns down >> right >> within the existing footprint of the um peers and foundations. So it's almost as a standalone bridge as well because you still have to come down to the ground >> and uh I know that officially pedestrians are not supposed to be
walking on the bridge but do you have a count of approximately how many people you estimate are walking across that bridge annually? We we have in our public records, we have done a a existing forecast of the activity in in the area, both vehicular and pedestrian.
>> Um I could tell you that every single time that I've been here, >> right, >> I have seen somebody cross over um and I agree with you. Um I wouldn't do it myself. I don't have an actual number for you, but >> it's being used on a daily basis, >> right? That I know. And we have DOT has signs out there that you know says
prohibit pedestrians and I I understand but I also understand the lack of connectivity from the mainland to the coastal in this area. Right. You got to you know walk miles to go to get around to the other side. So >> right if you don't have a car then >> correct. Right. And you know we have the Jewish community as well that certain
times of the year they they're not there's you know they could only walk. So that's another component of it as well. So it's quite a bit. I'll be I'll be honest with you mayor. It's it's not a small number. Um we have the documentation that you guys are more than welcome to to review. Um but yeah, it's it's
definitely happening. >> All right. So, what can we do uh from our end to help move this along if anything? >> Uh your guidance and questions and support. I mean, from everything that we've heard today, everybody wants this to be built by yesterday, which I
completely understand. Like I told you, I've been out here several times and I've seen the need. Um unfortunately we do have to follow the NEPA process. We have to follow the the National Environmental Policy Act by law which requires us to have these public meetings to include all the environmental impacts that we have to
take into account with any of our alternatives. So it is a lengthy process right just the PD side and then from there we still have the design of the actual facility and then the construction and right away in between if there's rightway that that may be needed for the project.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Mayor, mayor, may I ask I'm really sorry. I just want to ask one really quick question. At the very beginning of your presentation, you said you're not looking at capacity, correct? >> Have you all looked at capacity to know that you don't need that within the next 10, 20, 30 years?
>> Not as part of this project. We haven't. >> But is another arm of FDOT looking at that rather than having to come and retrofit later? I can't answer you that um because I'm not aware of any studies or any kind of um visibility study is
being done to see what the traffic is out here on the layman itself. Um from our scope and this PDN study is strictly to accommodate pedestrian bicycle activity. Obviously we are doing a traffic analysis report that will you know um give you all the existing
information what's happening from the causeway side and how many vehicles a year are going by it. But there's really no forecasting done from our side to determine if there's a need to add additional lanes or or anything of that sort.
>> Thank you. And um Commissioner Lama has joined us through phone. >> Does he have any questions, Mr. Lama? >> Yeah, I I'm having a hard time listening, so I'll get with staff. So, >> I'll discuss with staff. Yeah, >> I'll be there soon. >> All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you guys. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Okay. Next. >> Um, we are at 4:14. I'm assuming we're okay to keep going. No objections? >> None? No. Okay. >> Next item.
>> Next item is 2J uh audit presentation for fiscal year 2024 2025. Good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Um, I'm happy to announce that we've completed the fiscal year 2025 audit. Um, there were no findings
and an unmodified opinion. Um I want to give a special thanks though to the finance team and also our assistant finance director Natalie Oando. Um it's truly um a team effort as as far as the audit is concerned as well as um all the
departments that um assist us at year end. Um you each should have received a copy of the annual comprehensive financial report. And today we are joined by Alias did I pronounce that right? Rodriguez. Um he's the audit
senior manager with CBiz. Um he led the engagement team that's responsible for conducting the audit. And Mr. Rodriguez will present an overview of the audit, key findings, and required communications. >> Thank you.
So, I want to take a moment to thank Tiffany for pronouncing my name correctly, which is, believe it or not, it's actually not a common thing. In Miami, it's it's easier. I mean, obviously, but I'm from Broward and, you know, never really happens. Anyways, um, as she
mentioned, my name is Elias Rodriguez. I'm the senior manager um that was was working with the uh Sunny Isles audit for the fiscal year ended September 30th, 2025. I'm here to pronounce the end I mean pronounce present the annual comprehensive financial report. If >> you could just speak up a little bit. I
know you're really tall so it's >> Yeah, I know. >> I'm here to uh present the annual comprehensive financial report of the city for the fiscal year ended September 30th, 2025. Um this should be on your agenda packet. I'm going to make reference to some
pages. It is a big document. It's over 100 pages. I'm not going to go over every page. So, just some key areas. Um, the first area I would like to go over is going to be on page one, and that's going to be the independent auditor's report. Now, there's two
paragraphs I want to go over here that are key paragraphs, which are in your opinion section. The first paragraph pretty much answers the question, what did we audit? And we audited the financial statements of the governmental activities, business type activities, each major fund and aggregate remaining
fund information of the city of Sunny isles for the fiscal year ended uh September 30, 2025. Following that paragraph is our uh conclusion on the audit or in other words the opinion and just going to read it briefly. In our opinion, the
accompanying financial statements uh referred to above present fairly in all material respects. the respective financial position or governmental activities, business type activities, each major fund and the aggregate remaining fund information of the city as of September 30th, 2025. That is an
unmodified opinion, otherwise known as a clean opinion, which is the highest regard that you can get um for for an audit. I want to congratulate Tiffany and her team um for for achieving that once again um consistently um because it's it takes a lot of work.
Following the financial state I mean the uh independent auditor's report on page four you will find management discussion and analysis. I tell this to everyone on my presentations that's if you're not going to read read anything else in this
report definitely read this section. It spans from page four to page 15. It includes uh quantitative and qualitative information from one year to the next. Uh discusses your budget. discusses um capital assets and debt and in addition
to to other information. So, highly recommend you read this section immediately after the management discussion and analysis. We're going to get into the uh statement of net your financial statements. The first one being the statement of net position
which is in essence a balance sheet um but just pronounced I mean named different for governmental for governmental standards and it's going to include your assets deferred outflows of of resources liabilities deferred inflows of resources and the net of that
is going to be your equity or net position which for the year end September 30 2025 you have 345 million 345.2 2 million. Following the statement of net position is your statement of activities, which
is pretty much a profit and loss statement, just presented a little different because you're going to have your expenses on the top of the statement rather than on the bottom. And then you're going to have your program revenues in addition to your general revenues. Your opening net position was
337.8 8 million and you had a positive a positive increase in that position of 7.4 million with an ending of 345 which agrees to your to your balance to your statement in that position.
After the financial statement section, you'll have your notes to the financial statements which that'll be on page 25. Now the notes to the financial statements um provides additional details and disclosures or significant
items on your on your financial on your financial statements which includes your capital assets, your pension items and you know other other disclosures you would need. And I just want to skip through to the compliance section which is where our reports are going to be. That's going to
be on page 108. And on page 108, you're going to find the independent auditor's report on internal control or financial reporting and compliance and other matters. Um, we're pleased to announce that there are actually no matters to report for this
for this fiscal year. We don't have any significant deficiencies or material weaknesses for fiscal year 2025. Now, simultaneously with the issuance of the financial statements or the the uh the ACFR, we also provide a communications letter at the conclusion
of the audit uh to those charged with governance, which is pretty much a report card of management's performance during the audit. Um we're pleased to announce we had no disagreements with management during the audit and we had no difficult no difficulties at all during the audit dealing uh with our
dealings with management. And we want to thank Tiffany for and her team for their efficiency and the responsiveness during the audit. It's a lot of work. I believe we we started the audit in is it October? In November and it's reporting on
previous previous year information. So it's it's a lot of work involved in an audit. So they did a very good job. Um well that concludes my presentation. If you have any questions um I'm open for questions. Yes. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Yes. So in your opinion uh my lowering
the millage rate to 1.7 did that have any negative impact on the city financials? >> Um those we weren't engaged to a pine on that but it could impact um it could reduce the
revenues and maybe one line item for additional details what I would recommend is discuss with management because they would have a better answer for that. >> Okay. But you said that uh we increased our net by 7 million. >> Yes. >> Okay. And the uh lowering of the millage
rate would have only cost the city less than 2 million or approximately 2 million. >> I I don't have that specific analysis, but um but u multiple factors did play to to um to increase the state the the net position by 7.3.
>> Yes. So, in any event, the city is in a better shape this year than last year. >> Commissioner Joseph, that's not the his purpose for being here. >> Thank you. >> I appreciate it. No problem. >> Vice Mayor, did you have any questions? >> Yes. You mentioned that report card
>> uh the communications letter. >> Okay. So, is it an A+? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. >> A++. >> A++. Commissioners, any questions? Okay. Thank you. I uh I do want for clarification because I know that we
have a policy where we switch around the the audit companies. So is this your last year? You might one more year. Okay. So we'll see you next year. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you very much. I know this is difficult and I appreciate it. Thank you. We all do. Thank you. >> Appreciate it. Thank you,
>> mayor. Mayor. >> Yeah. I just wanted to say that for the members of the public That's okay. Thank you. I wanted to say thank you to the finance team. Um, I'm not sure if the public knows, but for the record, we have three CPAs in our finance staff.
We've won the government finance officer award for budget presentation the past 13 years. Our auditor, as you heard, is completely independent of anyone that works for the city. So I
think if anything this debunks a lot of the conspiracy theories about our budget and our spending. So thank you. >> Thank you for that. All right. Um we're going to keep going everyone. Yes. >> Yes. >> All right. The next item.
>> We're now into discussions. Uh first discussion item that we have is uh 3A discussion regarding town center park renovations. >> Okay. Is that you deputy manager? >> If I may please. Um, mayor, vice mayor, commission. Um,
in October or starting from October 24, budget fiscal year 2425. Um, the city commission approved to have an agenda item to renovate Town Center Park. It kind of started with a conversation about the bathrooms being inadequate.
Um, playground equipment is broken, in disrepair, has been far exceeded its lifespan of 15 years. It's been there since we opened it in 2008. Um and so we um hired a consultant, we
started the process and we are now ready to present with you a concept so that we can take it to the next phase. Um the presentation does start with some existing conditions to just reaffirm why we need to have this project in here.
um you currently had budgeted in CIP $2.9 million and this park on average we happen to have this cool thing we have which is called Placer AI which counts how many devices are in a park. So if a
parent is there with a child, it's typically going to count one person but consistently we have over a 100,000 people in the park year after year. Um and that's just one. So, you know, you show up with two children, that could be
three. So, um, this is one of our most used parks, as I think you all have witnessed personally, and so it does get a ton of wear and tear, and it's it's a really important park to the community. So, with that, I'd like to show you a couple of pictures and then invite up Sarah and David who are going to walk
you through their conceptual design. Okay, >> Vanessa. Yeah, there you go. Thanks. I just want to just clarify something because I think you were incorrect with that um date. You said 2008. >> I know that my 21-year-old used I have
pictures. >> Okay. >> When he was one. >> Oh, wow. Okay. So, even longer. >> Longer. Yeah. Okay. >> Thank you for that correction. >> Thank you. Go ahead. Hi. >> Hi. Thank you for having me. Sarah Landuchi. I'm with Keith, one of the subconultants that worked on the design. I'm going to walk you through a little
bit of the history of how we got to the concept design. And these are just flipping through some pictures, right, Susan? Okay. >> Tell them Sarah, go uh Sarah, that just go back a couple. Um that gazebo was added. It wasn't there when we first
opened the park. Um but it again has >> it 2017, >> something like that. It is older than that because I can tell you who was city manager whenever that was. >> Okay.
Okay. Great. >> So, we all know where the park is located. Highly visible area. One important thing to note here is at on the bottom picture, that blue dashed circle is the a 10-minute walk radius to the park. And we know that there's a lot
of residents within that area. So, the park is highly visited by pedestrians, people on bicycles and scooters. We wanted to highlight that some more of the existing photos which we showed earlier. And with every project, we like to do a
site analysis. And with this project, we're very familiar with the site. We actually worked with the city to develop the meditation garden that opened fairly recently. So, some key things to note here. U we're highlighting the vehicular circulation in pink and the pedestrian
in blue here. It has a nice pedestrian loop around the park. The gazebo is highlighted with the red star. There's two entry points, one on the north side and one on the south side with the parking lot there. There's a large open space to the north. The bathroom is
tucked away on the west corner shown in with the um purple star there. And then the playground, as we all know, sits right on Collins in the southwest corner. some character imagery for the site that
inspired us that we worked with city staff to kind of hone in on designs that we like. I think one of the key elements here is a lot of the post and platform playgrounds that we see in the park today are trending away. And I think the reason for this is it limits the amount
of creativity the child can have. It's pretty much an up and down type of activity. They go up, slide down a slide, climb up a ladder to get to the top. What we're seeing a lot in the park designs today is more sculptural um
artistic types of playgrounds with lots of rope climbing, basket swings. You can see that in a few of the pictures here. Embankment slides are really fun use of elevation change and provide a way for kids to be creative in how they get up
to these play structures. The bottom middle picture is DC Alexander Park. We just completed that project last year. It's on the beach in Fort Lauderdale and we actually were able to meet with city staff there to talk through the design,
show them the custom playground that was d designed there. It's a lot of rope structures. There's a large embankment slide. It has a big ADA accessible ramp to get up to the top there. It's a really fun park. It's on the ocean, so it has similar characteristics to what
we have here at Town Center. We're also showing some misting areas. Uh the bottom picture with the the colorful archways, which provides a space to cool off, but it's also shown
um as a more artistic piece and iconic element to the playground there. So before I get into the details of the concept design, I want to give a little bit of history of this area. As you can see on the west side, there's
a very large conservation easement. It's a protected natural area. So we wanted to honor that and bring that into the park space there with um planting native and drought tolerant plants which also
provide a lot of shade which is very important to this area. We know from the surveys that the city conducted that shade was a priority, swing sets were a priority and um we were definitely want to incorporate that throughout the park.
The meditation garden has these eccentric circles shown throughout. So you'll see that in the overall picture. We wanted to tie those two in together and create this more modern kind of abstract design with these um circles as
the theme which kind of owes to the ocean and the waves with these organic walkways throughout. So starting at the south west corner where you see the number one that's where we're envisioning a very iconic plaza space,
something that's very um memorializing for the the city. And this plaza is at the corner of Collins, so a very highly trafficked area. We're envisioning this area to be open, not fenced off. So with some seat walls, monument signs, just a
a gathering space for for people to hang out in and decide which direction they're going. Just a a nice shaded area. And then that diagonal prominade that leads into the park. That will be where the the gate starts to enter the
playground. So along that prominade, a shaded walkway that leads you into another smaller plaza space with movable furniture. You can see one of the big moves here is moving the restaurant
restrooms, apologies, from the west corner to more of a prominent location on Collins Avenue where number five is. Yes, number five. And that is a a restroom building which David will speak more into, but has um an incorporated
shade structure with some furniture. And then as you're heading into the play space, there's a large specimen tree with some integral seating for parents to hang out in the shade or children. And then in the large blue circles 8, 9,
and 10, this is where we're envisioning different levels of play from ages 2 to 5, 5 to 12, swing sets, um the embankment area with the contours on the north side there. I know it doesn't look like there's shade in there, but that's
because the equipment has not been chosen yet. This is very conceptual level design. So once we get to that point, we will discuss integral shade structures, fabric shade structures to um to that space there because we all
know in the heat of the summer if an area is not shaded, nobody's going to use it. So that's very important in the design. And then just north of the playground, number 13, there is a more quiet picnic area. And we we wanted to
make sure that this playground wasn't just for children with kids, that we have areas for seniors and people to go to that do not have children to seek a little bit of quiet shelter, have a picnic, and have a nice buffer between the playground there.
We're also showing an open flexible lawn, a place to kick a soccer ball or throw a frisbee. Also a place for the city to program markets or whatever events they need to a flexible space there. There's a maintenance facility in the
north side number 19. And then as you come down to the east there, we're keeping open that pedestrian access. So the main access will be at number one, but also on the north side, there will be an access point there with
another shaded plaza space. And at either of those accesses will have bike and scooter parking to make sure that you have a place to drop your your bike and then enter the the playground.
And then just south of the building at number 11 is an exercise equipment area. And then number 12 is where we're showing that fun Mister art sculpture down that pathway that leads you into the playground.
This design also incorporates a larger parking lot with about 10 more additional spaces. So in closing, we think the concept really represents a thoughtful and forwardthinking investment for the city. It strengthens
Town Center Park's role as a civil anchor by creating a safe and engaging environment for all residents. So, we think it's not just a playground upgrade, but it's a community asset designed to serve residents for today and the future. Happy to answer any
questions or we can go to David to talk about the building as well. >> Thank you. Um, why don't we start? Let's talk about the building and then we'll do the questions after. Good afternoon everyone. My name is David Shaweri. Thank you mayor, commissioners. Thanks for having me. Um
so the building like like Sarah mentioned uh has been moved to a more prominent location in the park. Right now it's kind of in a corner. Um so it it might actually be um too small for the park right now. So we are basing our
new design on a new prominent location. So the building is obviously going to be uh pleasing to look at. So we are planning now for an occupant load of around 3 to 400. I think that's where we last talked about. So we've got uh three
uh stalls per men and women. And the entire building is covered with a with a canopy so folks can come in from the sun in in the mornings and the rain in the afternoons. Uh we'll also have drinking fountains here. Um we had talked about a
little bit of storage space. Uh so maybe that will come in later on. Um but really it's just a place to come and get out of the elements, get some shade, uh use the facilities. Right now it's we're planning on just simple reinforcement
masonry reconstruction concrete roof. There was some discussion about a green roof. I'm not sure uh where that's at right now, but that can be accommodated. Uh it's also I'm showing two different options here. The one up top is a more
uh standard uh stuckco finish building. The bottom version is a metal panel building that's camouflaged with different colors uh to match the lush landscaping the park have. Um and then some very nice outdoor furniture um that
can be moved and moved around. So that's where we're at now. Um if there's any questions. >> Okay. Thank you. Who who would like to start? Commissioner Stevenson, do you have questions? Commissioner Joseph, do you have questions? >> I have no questions. >> I'll start now.
>> Okay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. >> Uh, I really uh like the um the addition of trees. I mean, shade is definitely needed. Like we we've even talked about uh and authorized like extended summer hours just because during the day it
gets so hot that families don't enjoy it and so then they come back at night and so we try to deal with the heat that way. Um, and you know, we've had what I forget what they're called, those tarps or like those >> shade sales. >> Those I'm sorry,
>> the shade sales. >> Yes, the shade cells. Uh, but really I really like the idea of just adding trees and having that kind of shade. And it's I I like that a lot. I'm wondering, and maybe this is this is
just something that occurred to me sitting here. Have we considered like having a separate entrance for the meditation garden or are you looking at the space as one? >> Right now I'm looking at space as one. Okay. Uh Sarah's got the site design.
>> Yeah, we've looked at the site as one. We do have, you know, that's why we created that large specimen in that corner to kind of separate that area to make it a little bit private. And that is gated, but right now we're not considering a separate entrance only.
>> And it's the same bathroom, right, for both spaces. >> It is. Yes. >> Um, and I think that this is I mean, we can we can try to accommodate adults, but I mean, that's why we we added the meditation garden with that idea. I I
don't see this becoming anything other than a kid park. this is very uh heavily used by by families, but we carved out that corner, you know. So, I mean, I like it. I'm just um those are just my my two cents. And the extra parking is
uh definitely needed. So, >> okay, Mr. Lana, you have questions? >> Yeah. Can we go back to the um to the actual drawing of the of what is proposed of the park with the different uh numberings there for each of the
components? Okay. Uh one second here. Oh, yeah. I see I see I I like the trees. I like this. Now I I would like to you know I'll have to take a look at the measurements really to take a good look
at this but when my kids were small they used to utilize this park a lot right uh I think this is like the park that is obviously gets used the most in the uh in the city
what I don't see though is um and and and again I would like to look at the measurements of some of these circles here I I'd like to see an area where the kids can run because right now what is happening or used to happen is that some
kids used to play soccer, they run around. So I just want to make sure that there's an area, you know, especially for the demographic, the age of the kids that go there. Uh they love to run, so I I just want to make sure there's enough
space for them to run around >> until they get tired, then they go to sleep and >> we could rest. Yeah, >> definitely. That's important to get that exercise. We're envisioning 14 as that space in the top right corner as the our open lawn. >> Okay.
>> Um it we do buffer that with the playground with the planting. But if maybe we create some kind of um easier connection to get to that so you can run back and forth from the playground to the open area. >> We we can look at incorporating that into the design.
>> Yeah. And another thing is that for instance uh some older kids used to go there and take a soccer ball and then the the the families with the younger kids used to complain. So, I would still still like to have, you know, some sort
of, you know, space where the older kids or the kids that want to, you know, play w with a soccer ball or something, they could be there >> and without hurting the babies, let's say, that that go to that park, >> right? >> Because that was an issue too, uh, back
in the day >> when I didn't have to wear glasses. Um, so yeah, I would like to to see that too. Maybe in a yellow space >> could have some sort of separation or or something where, you know, you could say, "Hey, if you want to play with a
soccer ball, go go here." So, >> okay. >> Yeah. We can also look at make maybe making that space a little bit larger. >> We have, you know, three picnic areas that we're showing there. So, maybe that gets reduced and we can grow that lawn space to create more more room for that.
And to the point of the running right now, there's like a track like that's around it. Are we preserving that or is that being chopped up by the >> We do still show the loop, but it's not it's not as direct as it is now. We have, you know,
>> if I if some kid wanted to like run laps there, >> you can you can still circulate. Okay. >> The whole area. Yes. >> And we're still going to have the workout state. Yeah, I see that workout. >> Yeah. centralize that into one location instead of being separated by two. >> Okay. >> Areas. So that's shown at number 11
there. >> So you could come into the site. >> Yeah. >> And just go to the workout station and and leave. >> And that workout station is going to have like the machines and the bars. >> Yes. Yep. That hasn't been chosen yet, but that's what >> But that could be designed.
>> Correct. Correct. >> All right. And just another note, um we are keeping the um art rising horizons that is located on number 17 on your diagram. >> Yeah, Barney. Um
>> Commissioner Sison, did you have questions? >> I have a few comments. So back in October 2024, two contracts were u passed to two different companies for the design of
this park. One of $51,250 to Rodriguez architects for the renovation and the construction documents of the restroom. They were supposed to deliver the all the
documents in 10 weeks. which it was done technically uh by December 2024. Where are we with that? That is that is this presentation and we did had not brought it to you yet until
we had a more comprehensive plan and some more information. >> Okay. So, it took like 70 weeks instead of 10 to have it ready. Another question is um another company also got awarded
without a bid because we have a pre-contract apparently $220,000 they were supposed to give us all the design in 10 months that was August 2025 and right now April 2026 is the first
time at least that I am seeing this not even for this meeting I had the pleasure of having this in advance to be able to have my questions ready. So, I'm seeing this for the first time right now after apparently spending the city around
$300,000 in since October 2024. Um, so I have another question. Let me check here. What is your timeline? So just to
answer some of those questions, we that with the that contract that's in place now, we were only directed to do the conceptual design phase which is only one task of that 219,000. So that's what this is presented and then we were put on hold to come back
and wait for this opportunity to present it to you. So, we um that's where we're at now. And then if if we get the go-ahhead, we we can proceed right into schematic design and then construction documents and into construction. So, we're ready to go when when the city is
ready. >> Good. And how much of those $219,000 do we spend already? >> Uh for our contract, it was like 17,000 for the concept, I believe. >> So, >> the first task. >> So, everything else we still have the money there for the >> Yep.
>> following step. Correct. Okay. Perfect. Um, and once this gets approved, when do I mean with whatever modifications uh the timeline when do you think it should be or we should be starting the process of construction and how long will it
take? >> According to the country was four years. So I don't know if that continue being the same. >> I mean we'll have to go through permitting and and approvals at the city level. Hopefully we can do that within a year. Correct. Yeah. Um I think Sarah's got
the bulk of the work. Architecturally we can get this done in six to eight weeks up to construction drawings up for bidding. Bidding usually takes about four weeks on average. Um construction can take probably a year.
>> No, I don't have any other question for now. >> Okay. Commissioner Joseph, >> nothing. >> Okay. I have uh a few questions. I think every single one of us have had kids uh use that park extensively. So, I'm going to speak from what I've heard and from my own personal, you know, and it's been
a while. So, um as far as the shade, one of the things that was very frustrating that I heard for over and over is during hurricane season, we would have to take it down. Um and that's when it's the hottest. So if there is any opportunity to create like natural canopies,
>> I know that that often you have has to grow into that, but I'm thinking about like the Meridian Avenue and South Beach, Miami Beach that like covers the entire, you know, street, something along those lines. Um swings,
if there's any opportunity to add like literally swings everywhere, that's it's huge for for this um community is the swings. Um to Commissioner Llama's point, you know, the number 14, um something that continues to come up is
that we don't have enough areas to play soccer. So, I don't know. I know this is concept. So, just to consider how much of our community uses um you know, soccer fields and I know that this primarily is probably and correct me Susan if I'm wrong, more of a zero to
what 10 years old area. probably not necessarily the teens aren't using it and >> we're really trying to >> keep it to the little kids. >> Redevelop parks instead of having the same thing in every park, >> right? Make it specific for that age. Correct. >> Right. So, to my point, and I know that
maybe, you know, my colleagues disagree, but like the exercise equipment, I think that we're trying to do too much like we're trying to add something for everyone. And um you know I think that that was put in originally many many years ago because we had a community of
of seniors that was using it but now we have a lot of senior programming that allows for them to move around. So that's from my end a consideration to either take it out completely or potentially find a place in the meditation garden for it. Um the same
thing with the picnic tables. I think that that area in the meditation garden is completely under utilized. Um and if there is even a way to to vice mayor's point to allow for a separate entrance so that it's clear that that is for you
know the adults. Um I'm very glad that the bathroom is going to get upgraded. I just I'm not sure that I agree with the central location of it. It seems to have a very central, >> you know, place. And I mean it's a
restroom. So I think that if if anything that's where I would potentially, you know, the the very cool pictures that you showed of, you know, the water feature or whatever that was, um I think that the restroom could be moved, you know, to this to the side. But
definitely we need more stalls for that. and whatever it is you come back with as far as design. I know it's not possible because we live right on the ocean, but the most, you know, least corrosive kind of materials uh so that we're not
forcing commissions after us to have to keep paying for for upkeep. Um I think that that was that's I mean I know it's still concept so but uh thank you. This it's it's a long time coming. >> Let me piggy back. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.
>> So, thinking ahead and thinking regarding Heritage Park that we might look to redevelop at some point, I would like to see the memorial wall at Heritage Park moved to the meditation garden in order to free up Heritage Park
for other projects. >> Okay. Vice Mayor, did you have anything? >> Yes. Um, just to keep this in mind, the with regards to the exercise equipment, I don't I don't know who uses that. I mean, maybe it is used. I I just don't
know who does. I think uh kids jump on it just because it's there, but they're not uh so I don't know if it's intended for adults or not, but we are going to have some at the um sports court, >> right? >> There's So, we're already going to have some exercise equipment at the sports
court. So, I think if if we're looking for wiggle room, that might be a good thing to to look at. But I would ask uh that you keep the pull-up bars because those are popular. >> Okay. >> Is this the only rendering that you guys have or you have more details?
>> Um, this is all we have for right now. >> That's it. >> Yes. For the concept. >> Okay. >> But if I may, the reason for that is because, you know, time is money. So, we did not want them to come with a bunch
of different options and then still have no consensus, right? >> So, um based on this conversation, I do have a couple of follow-up questions. >> Um as far as the restroom and its location, >> it's because it's combined with a
seating area and um kind of a pavilion, sort of like Samson Oceanfront Park. So that So do you like that concept? Do you not like that concept? >> I don't because I think that it invites people that are not really looking to use the park for the purposes of the
playground. >> So I I I don't I'd rather it be separated out. So how do you feel about a covered pavilion then? Because the gazebo that's rusted and rotting is going away. So, do you still want
I think we need something covered because that is has seating because I think a lot of the obviously the parents, the nannies, the grandparents specifically, you know, use that area and I I this is just and I'm not suggesting you put in the design, but
just something to consider. I know that >> the gazebo has sort of been used to corral little kids so that they don't run off. So, I know that that that people have used it for that purpose. So at Heritage we have um a covered pavilion that's separate from the
restrooms completely. So something like that concept works better. >> And then the playground that they are proposing as you notice it's kind of recessed so that they are coralled in a more natural way. Is that a good way to
put it? So I I'm hoping that this if you like this concept it'll >> kind of resolve that corelling problem as well. gone to the park. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. Just want to make sure you Okay. >> Multiple times. >> Yeah. Um Yeah. I think that's very
important to see how it's being used and >> Yeah. Okay. What was your other question? >> Well, let let me have everyone else. >> No, I I was trying to You brought up Heritage and I was try I was trying to envision Heritage because Aren't the
bathrooms at Heritage with the >> part of the garage? Oh, so that seating in the middle, it's not bathrooms. It's water fountains. >> There's not even a water fountain. >> It's just a little storage room >> with the tables around >> storage.
>> Oh, I thought it was Yeah, but I don't love that area. >> Okay. >> And then the water feature is there so you can kind of watch everything at the same time. >> Okay. So, water fountains are are are good. >> Okay. And then the number of restrooms.
Um, you know, that was one of the things that we heard from you all and and the public was more of them. Um, so dedicating space to that. And then one of the important concepts of this and the location of it, which we can
certainly move, um, was kind of getting the play and the all the activity away from the busy Collins Avenue and kind of buffering it with buildings and things like that. So, >> okay, I understand. >> Okay. And then, um, since Commissioner Joseph brought it up, how do others feel
about moving the memorial wall? because if we're doing that, that's quite an endeavor that we would need to >> But but hold on. I have a question regarding that. I thought we're doing if we're going to do a community center. I thought we were talking about Pelican, not I think I think Heritage was
>> previously. So, Heritage, we're talking about redoing it for tennis courts and other um we we only use Heritage now once a year basically for Veterans Day. We we
can make much better use of that space and uh by moving the memorial wall to the uh meditation garden, this is the perfect time to do it. It's forward thinking and that's the
right thing to do for um a heritage project in the future. If we leave the the uh memorial wall, then it's just in the way and it it causes um us to not be able to use that park in any proper manner.
>> I >> Yeah, but the memorial wall is it's it's a wall. I don't know how. I mean, it's not taking up space in the sense that if you want to put tennis courts or whatever you want to put in the middle and the area, you could still do it. I mean,
>> but also for Veterans Day, the town center is also a more central centralized area for Memorial for Veterans Day and you would have a lot more people attending. >> Yeah. I mean, let let I mean, let's stick to this um to this discussion
item. We we could discuss heritage and the memorial wall later, but >> I I just have going back to town center, >> I I think we should keep some exercise equipment in there. >> Yeah. Um and regarding the memorial
wall, I I I don't know. I mean, it's a wall, Jerry, so I don't know how it's not in the middle of the park in Heritage, so it's >> you could still have your tennis courts there, >> but it's the use of the park. you would have more people attending at Town Center Park from for Veterans Day even.
>> I I don't I I just don't see how that's relevant here. Uh and we're not really discussing >> we're not really discussing heritage. Like nobody's talking about tennis courts or anything about heritage. >> I I think it's fine. I don't I don't
want And we finally have a meditation garden. It's nice. I think leave it. >> But there's plenty of room there for the wall. It doesn't make >> the wall doesn't need to be moved. >> The area is being redesigned. >> I Okay. Well, obviously I disagree. >> But but it's just forward thinking.
We're we're doing a redesign of a park. Why would you not consider everything? It's in being opened. >> It's not that I'm not considering it. It's that I don't like it. I've considered it. I don't like it. >> What were your other questions, Susan?
>> I just I'm sorry. I I just want to go over so that they have some direction of where we're going from here. So, we're going to reduce some of the picnic area to make a greater lawn area. We will consider relocation of the restroom
area, include solid covered, not not fabric covered, um seating area. Um I need to know where you're going to land on the exercise equipment. Definitely more swings and some kind of
corraling area which I think we have incorporated. Everybody's good with the additional parking using some valuable park space from our parking. >> Yes. >> And having multiple entrances >> like we do I mean right now we have two that
>> you know the the north one makes me very nervous but the way they've redesigned it here it's set back from Collins Avenue and the sidewalk is wider. So, um I think that's okay. Is there >> So, with the parking, you know, adding
the parking, is that inviting people to park there and go to the beach? >> We can um definitely enforce the parking so that it doesn't turn into beach parking, >> right? That's that's a concern. Um with the exercise equipment, I I support
having like the pull-up the the stationary exercise equipment that they use for pull-up. I'm talking >> the bars and all of that. I'm talking about the other odd >> the ones that are around the perimeter of the >> ones around the perimeter is the ones that I think don't get used. But as far as the the pull-up bars and the sit-ups
and those I think they they absolutely do get used. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was referring to. I mean I've seen like some older people when they walk in the morning kind of do that kind of circuit with the uh with the equipment, you know, the push-up thing and whatever. But yeah, I don't think it gets used to
>> Yeah. I mean, if anything, that's what I'm saying. I think encouraging more use of the meditation um garden and leaving this area really for the the little kids. Um okay. Any >> And you like the concept of the misters
because nobody commented on misters. >> What's misters? >> The misters. >> Oh, misters. I thought you weren't naming. >> Yes. No. No. Absolutely. I The more water features the better. As many as possible.
Um, yeah. How much does Barney cost us to maintain? To maintain right now, he hasn't cost us so much. >> I have a question regarding the misters. >> So, these are the fans that >> spray and spread the water. >> No, if you look on this arch,
>> the bottom of misters, >> right? >> You see that the pink those pink arches? You see that? >> Third picture at the bottom. >> Okay. So, they're spraying from the arches. >> Correct. Yes. You missed. All right. >> Yes. What we currently have in the gazebo has never worked well.
>> Right. So any um orifice where the water is coming out, that will be stainless steel. >> Yes, definitely. >> I like it more like the picture next to it that have more like water, more blue, more more beach style. And um Yeah. And
about the misters. Yeah. As much water features as possible. Good. Uh the bathroom location. Yes. It look very odd where it is right now. It looks in the middle. The location where it is currently I think it looks is good. Um
also if you see in the concept plan uh the entrance by the vehicles it's a little bit scary. First it doesn't connect with the sidewalks. So there is not like a continuous loop and also um
the kids can go there to the cars or and and you can it's hard to to look at them. So that location there for the bathroom without that entrance and connecting the sidewalk to the other side to make it a loop it will be better. So yeah I don't like the
location of the bathrooms at all. Um if you have multiple kids, it is where to to spread to to be able to look at both of them at the same time. Um again, the sidewalk is not connecting. Um the exercise which is mainly used by the
adults uh in my opinion should be almost at the entrance of the meditation garden. So you have that north side um more for the adults and they can use also the north entrance. Um yeah, I I do believe um clearly more swings are
needed and more water features. Yeah. As well about the having a long area like number 14. Uh I don't think that we need such a big long area due to the fact that we have where Margaris and we have also the play
the here in Pelican Park like big and also in heritage and also in gateway. So this is very small and we try to do too much in such a little space. So that area if we can put more water feature and start instead of having it um my my
kids they play soccer. So and they they will never go play soccer in town center as it is right now. We will go either to Gateway, we will go to Pelican or of course to wear Margar. So this is not even an option for soccer for the real
soccer players. So, um I will completely almost minimize as possible the long area just to be able to put more water features. >> Um I I absolutely support water
features. I always I mean we can make the whole thing a water park, but that's a different story. Uh one one thing that Commissioner Stson brought up that that made me realize we have and this could be again because of the elements but we have repeatedly have had instances where the gates have some sort of issue with
locking or closing. So whatever new designs are available so that they can automatically you know shut or so that you know because people just tend to leave them open whatever the new design is. It's it's really important because like since you've seen it, there are
just so many kids and they do run around on on their own and that is an issue of them being able to run off and into where this the cars are. Okay. Did is there more questions? >> I think we're good. You guys are good. >> Um Mayor, >> I have one question. Sorry. So your
design, when do you expect to have um more finalization on your design? I know you're going to have want additional input in the future, correct? Yes. So what is the time frame >> do you think >> we can do four weeks three four weeks
from now? >> So we'll plan for the June commission meeting. We'll bring back uh the next >> June the next phase. >> The next phase to you in June. >> Yeah. So how many phases are you expecting before we >> Well, I think once next it would be a schematic. >> Yes.
>> Okay. Refining this and if you all if we have consensus from that then they'll get right into construction drawings. >> Right. So, and but okay. So, finalization probably January some January probably. >> Um, we'd probably be out to bid by then.
And yes, >> that's reasonable. >> Okay. >> Um, Mr. City Manager had something to add. >> Mayor, uh, would you consider the possibility of moving the sculpture so we can capture that area? >> I would absolutely.
>> Thank you. Anybody have objection to moving? >> No. >> Yeah, that it takes up a lot of the area. So, yeah. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Last last thing, um just consider sitting area for the parents or the adults kind of in the middle
>> or where is the playgrounds are going to be. So, like I said, if you have multiple kids with you and one is in the swings and another one is in the slice or whatever, there is an area where you can be as an adult and be able to look at the same at the same time. Same with
the entrance, do the exit and entrance, you know, that you can see from where you are. I know it's really complicated and it sounds easy but just thinking ahead of parents with multiple kids, small kids that like I said they are
going to be everywhere and you want to be able to to see >> definitely we do have that incorporated throughout the playground integral seating so we know how important that is. >> Thank you. >> I had one question about the open lawn because it seems to be some mixed reviews on that. Do we want to have an
open space here? >> I changed my mind. I think that keeping it to that age group and keeping it, you know, so that we're not, you know, to the deputy manager's point, um, and to Commissioner Susen, not trying to do everything. Okay. >> Um, yeah. If there's other uses,
specifically water. >> Yep. >> Feature uses. >> Yeah. Because like you said, it is it is tight area to have a lot of programming. So, if we don't want to keep that open lawn, we can >> use it for for other play elements. >> All right.
Founders Park. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And I just also like to reiterate >> run space >> that we're looking to not have the restroom that predominantly >> can run gateway >> around the corner. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Next. Okay. So, we are at 510. We have quite a few items. Um, so >> All right. Next. Is everyone okay to keep going? >> All right. Next item. Next one is 3B. A discussion regarding a request for
waiver of the sponsorship requirements. >> Okay, >> Miss Joseph, >> sorry. >> Yes. Okay. So, um we have the Miami Dade League of Cities.
That's Hold on. Yes. So, Miami Date League of Cities. They're looking we're uh looking for sponsorship by the city. >> Okay. >> So, >> does anyone have anything to add?
>> Um I I'm not in favor of waving the sponsorship because I think we have the process in place for a reason. Um but that's just my personal opinion. Um, if we wanted to buy single tickets to the
event, I think we should, but ultimately $5,000. Um, I'm not sure the municipal purpose of it. >> Okay. I don't think they really need us. So, >> right. >> Okay. So, then I just brought it up. So, we'll buy just separate tickets then.
>> I mean, unless anyone feels strongly about sponsoring it. >> Hold on. We have sponsored in the past. And what what has been the um the process? Have we waved it in the past? I mean, >> if I recall correctly, we >> have um deputy manager
>> answer that >> you didn't have this process last year. >> Oh, okay. >> It got approved after that. >> All right. So, the league is not going to obviously fill all of this out. >> Correct. They are not, which is why
there was the request to wave it. >> Yeah. But I think that if we we would like to sponsor something then I don't know. Um I I I >> I don't know. My my point is I don't know the municipal purpose of sponsoring this. Um if we want to be there as a
city to support, we can buy individual tickets if they're selling them, but they're not they don't seem to have a dire need for the sponsorship. They have plenty of sponsors. >> No, I understand that. >> Um so I'm not sure what the purpose of it would be besides just writing them a check.
>> I'm okay. Wait a minute. it it's supporting the it's supporting the Miami date county cities which clearly serves a municipal purpose however um I think we just have to plan better that we have the process we should follow the process
but I I don't I to me the municipal purpose is clear h >> have we okay maybe the paperwork I mean I'll have to take a look at the paperwork um did they tell us flat out that they were not going to fill out our paperwork
What was the uh what was the nexus for this? >> Um Mr. City Manager, did they say they won't fill it out? >> We didn't we didn't ask them to, but you all established a process for any sponsorship,
>> right? >> So, the sponsorship dollars would be 5,000. So in order for us to move forward, either you would have to direct us or they have to fill out the process and then go through that for your approval. >> So So maybe they are willing to fill it
out. >> If they're willing to fill it out, then I think then >> Yeah. The what? >> How do we know? >> It's in May. >> They would have to fill it out and it would have to come to you as a resolution and that would have to be tonight to make it in time for the
event. >> I'm okay. waving. >> All right. So, maybe for next Yeah, I mean, I'm >> I'm okay waving it for this uh for this uh particular uh you know uh event, but >> you know, moving forward, we'll just have to make sure that you know, we we
we send out the paperwork. I mean, if they're trying to get our money and, you know, they're trying for us to buy a sponsorship, I don't see why they should not be willing to fill something out for money. Well, I think they sent an email,
right, requesting the sponsorships and and uh but you know, it just stayed in our inbox. You know what I mean? So, they don't know what every city's um >> I understand. I understand. >> Right. But but to my my point is that if
we have the process in place, especially Miami Date League of Cities has the resources to fill out this paperwork. if we're having smaller organizations who are looking for donation and we're forcing them to fill it out, um it's only fair. Now, I I mean, I see that there's a consensus to wave it. So, I'm
I'm speaking for just in in general, you know, the the concept was that we wanted to make it consistent for for everyone. I think we have to do this especially something like this which is the the leagues uh like we've done with the proclamations where we just like set it
set them out like in advance the ones that we know and then Pelican Harbor like there's stuff that we're that we want to sponsor and and just structure ahead plan it out ahead because otherwise then we're we're stuck in in this situation. Well, then I think it needs to go into the budget. That's the way it needs to.
>> But it it's all we already have a budget for um we have a budget for the sponsorships. >> I believe I'm I'm sorry if I'm interpreting what you're saying is that through the bud budget process, which we're in right now, is you identify now.
We put it in as a line item in the budget and then you don't necessarily go through the through the process, but it's in that line item of the budget. So it gets removed from the total amount which is remind me please it's 20 >> 20 20,000 in total
>> 20,000 we've >> 10 >> 10,000 this year 10,000 >> that's what you had this year yes >> okay we started off at 20 when we reduced it to 10 >> that's that's not what I was thinking um but I guess I'm confusing the the budget piece but I was just thinking just like
we say okay these are going to be the proclamations I can always take it off the agenda I'm like oh I don't want to do the proclamation on whatever this year. So, if we can just plan ahead like whatever January and we we say, "Okay, these are the three that that we're willing to sponsor that we know we're
willing to sponsor um proactively, right?" Uh then we can reach out to them and say, "Hey, you know, you're on our sponsorship list, but we this is what you you need to jump through these hoops." They still have to go through our process. >> Okay. So, you still want the process. You just want to reach out. >> We spent so much time developing the
process. >> Agreed. So I think we should use it but we shouldn't expect everybody to know what our process is. So, if we if we know that there's things like the league, the the ones that we are definitely on board with, right? The
league, the Pelican Harbor and um whatever maybe the Florida leagues, whatever it is, the stuff that we normally do that that can be a proactive thing that's on our to-do list that we let them know um we you know the
commission has approved a want to sponsorship, but this is our process. If you want our money, fill this out and thank you very much. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. >> Can we move something around because we
have um someone waiting in the audience to hear one item? Um >> uh what would you like to move? >> We I'd like to please move um 3E as being next. >> 3E. >> Do we have a decision on this item? I
think there's consensus to wave it, right? I'm the only no. >> It will come before you tonight as a resolution then. >> Okay. >> So, three yes to wave. Okay. >> All right. Uh 3E. Um All right. I just want to point out that we do have some items on here that
have been on here before. So, um >> they've been on because it was left open. >> No, no, no. I understand. But I just want to make sure that we're following the rules because you know vice mayor had to wait three months to to put on an item. Um but
>> what is >> I don't have any I don't have any objection going to 3E if anyone if everyone else is okay. >> They're all mine. So I'm just asking change the order. >> Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Okay. So um I had had many residents
contact me. I wasn't aware that there had been an agreement by the city manager to allow the Bentley to uh work in extended hours. So, I'm just trying to understand and I brought this forward
for residents who didn't want to contact the city manager directly. They went through me. So, I'm just doing this on their behalf to question um the validity of having 247 construction.
>> Okay. >> Go ahead, Mr. Manager. >> Mayor, I just I want to just read for the record the item as the commissioner presented it. It's a resolution blocking the city manager sole discretion
regarding the approval of extended hours for the Bentley. So, that's the item. So, I'm I'm asking, >> okay, >> is it your intention to block the Bentley from extended hours? No, I was just questioning
uh the process and also um possibly some type of modification as to the residents that are near actually the noise extends throughout the city. But um it's
predominantly more on the north side to somehow reasonably um you know modify not not to stop the allowance of extended hours but maybe to modify the hours somewhat. Uh you know
take a look at it. let's put it this way to um you know to see what's reasonable and um you know at the city manager's discretion maybe to take another look at the hours.
>> This says blocking the city manager >> since the hours are um Saturday and Sunday work hours. um during uh hours when people would expect
peace and quiet and you know so I'm asking for it to be take a second look to be taken at the hours >> you received >> not to um stop construction on those
days but to maybe by an hour or two uh you know during the later hours to maybe take a look at it. >> Okay. You received a complaint and I asked you to forward to me and you explained that you would handle it
yourself. >> No, I did not say that. I said that the reason these uh people who complained to me had your number. They chose not to go through you to go through me because they wanted to remain anonymous um
regarding any type of backlash. >> Okay. because the resolution says to block the city manager. So, mayor, I'm a little bit I'm a little bit confused. >> I I'm getting confused, too. Let's start over. What? Commissioner Joseph, can you just please clarify? >> My intent was not to block it.
>> It was to reasonably uh modify it as to the later hours. >> Okay. So, then would you decide what the hours should be? >> Would I? >> Because you're suggesting that my discretion be blocked. No, I'm asking No, I'm removing the word blocked. I I
um am asking for it to be taken a second look at as to uh reasonable hours. >> Okay. Um any comments from the commission? >> What are the hours right now? What what what is the definition of extended hours
and what and what are regular hours and what are extended hours? City Manager. >> The regular hours are 7:00 a.m. to 700 p.m. Monday through Thursday, 7 to 5 on Friday, and 9 to5 on Saturday.
>> And how about Sunday? >> Nothing. And what are the extended hours? >> Sorry. Isn't there a Sunday included? >> No, there's Let's >> regular. There's no Sunday. and the extended hours. >> Currently, we've allowed modified hours
to include uh deliveries. So, it varies throughout the day, but it also includes Sundays. >> Okay. So, it includes Sundays and it goes beyond 7 p.m. >> Correct. >> How beyond?
>> Until 11 in some cases. Okay. >> So, because if we're going to, you know, bring it up, then we need to know what the universe looks like, like what are we comparing extended or whatever. And what are the pros and cons? What are the what why have extended hours?
>> Every project that's been built on the east side has had extended hours, including the building next door to this site, which is which is the Turnberry. So over the period of three years they had extended hours which would include
work seven days a week. So >> seven days a week. >> The purpose of that one of the main reasons in us looking at this and extending it was the original proposal was for a month or more
lane closure. So in order to avoid a lane closure which would affect all of the residents, we allowed for modified construction in the evening. And it's been for me a
significant success. I've received two complaints since the construction has started and then I check with the police department and we've received one complaint over the past year. If we modify this, we're going to have to allow for a lane
closure which could potentially block traffic throughout the city. The overall the way I explain it to the neighbors associating the project is the overall goal is to shorten the length of time of
the project. So, if you vary the construction hours now and strictly go by the schedule, which would be an exception to how we've built every building on the east side, you have the potential. >> That's not what I'm asking for. >> Okay. You have the potential of
extending construction from 6 months to a year. So the idea is to get the project done as soon as possible with minimal um disruption to all of the residents. I understand there's a disruption to the
neighboring properties, but this is how I explain it to all of the associations. >> Okay. >> Okay. And I would add that if you're let's say you we keep it right to the to the shorter hours and so it's
always being done during those same hours. Not everybody has the same schedule and the people who work at night would go crazy because they they would always be uh disrupted for an even longer period of time. Um and and the
soon I I don't know. I'm I'm I think I think it's been working. the sooner you get it done, the sooner you it becomes a taxpaying property. >> Um, I I think it's okay.
>> Okay. Commissioner Lama, >> I have a question. I mean, I'm looking at the approval here and it says January 2nd, 2026 to March 31st, 2026. So, I mean, all all of this is over. Did we extend this? >> No, it's extending. >> It's been okay. that I'm looking at, you
know, the document that is here in the agenda. And then I mean some of the times Monday through Saturday 2 am to 11:00 p.m. I mean that's basically working throughout the morning when people middle of the night when people are are sleeping. So,
I mean, I think some of these times need to be reconsidered, especially if you know if it's true that I haven't received complaints, but you know, I'm looking at a 2:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. and it's like, yeah, it's a little too much.
And then you have a 5:00 am to 11 pm and then you have Sundays 8 am to 4 pm. I mean when somebody makes noise and Sunday is the only time I could wake up late, you know, it's it's really frustrating. So I think we need to take that into consideration. I'm not saying
to delay the project, but you know you know look at the times uh a little bit better. Yeah. I haven't during all of the phases of the construction I've only received two
complaints. So in terms of the late night hours, those are periods of time when the buildings are doing setup. They also have a 24hour representative that we can call at any time if there's issues, but this enables the project to
get done more expeditiously. So I'm concerned with any sort of modification and you know I can I I understand this we look at it from the building official perspective and trying to do the best in
terms of principles and practices of construction because you're also going to have some significant deliveries that could potentially back up. So we're considering all of those factors when we allow these approvals and >> and I agree with you in certain things.
I mean like for instance you have concrete delivery and concrete pour. I mean we'll I think we'll have to take one each of these and see you know do do these create noise where obviously it reverberates and it wakes people up. I
mean I don't know they might not crane jumps and additional makeup days. What are they exactly doing? Is it are they creating a lot of noise when they're doing what's a crane jump? >> I I think that the the manager's point
is that they all of this is being considered and so it I don't feel like very comfortable analyzing any of this. Um that's why we have professionals to do that. Um and I'm with the vice mayor
as far as getting this done as quickly as possible. I also have not had any complaints and I live in the neighborhood. >> Yeah, I haven't had complaints, but I mean I think if they're depending on the scope of work, they need to be considerate, >> right? >> You know, to of of the neighbors. So,
you know, if they're doing work where they're not drilling, they're not making noise, then I'm okay with it. I'm just saying we need to get into the specifics. And at this point, I I don't know what these I don't know what this is. I mean, concrete delivery, I don't
think it makes noise to deliver concrete. No. And and that's fine because obviously during the daytime, you don't want a lane to be blocked if they're delivering concrete, but I don't know what a crane jump is or additional makeup days. I don't know what they're doing. So, I just need
>> I would like to know more information. >> So, the the code the code under chapter 193 delegates that authority to the city manager, >> right? So, if you want changes to the hours, you would have to direct the city manager to do that.
>> May I say something? >> Go ahead. >> We have a construction now that we just approved, 64story building. >> Yeah. >> Between Armani and Ocean 2. So you have those buildings that are going to be under the same
issue where you have reverberation between these two buildings and you're going to have no peace. >> Yeah. >> Or a lot of people during that construction. So I know people on the
south end of the city don't hear the noise, but there is a lot of noise. >> Yeah. I I I don't know because I don't know what's happening. I I haven't heard complaints. You mentioned reverberation, but I don't know if they're drilling or what what they're exactly doing at that time. >> If they're setting up
>> right now, right now they're pouring for height >> on the tower. >> So, you frame the um rebar in wood. Okay. And then after the pour, that holds the concrete in. And then after
the pour, you have to bang off the wood because it's >> it's stuck by the concrete. Okay. And that banging off of the containment material makes a lot of noise. >> Yeah. Okay. So, I would just direct the city manager to Go ahead.
>> Sorry, sir. Go ahead. >> I would just direct the city manager to, you know, obviously be um be monitoring the situation and if there's noise that >> city manager doesn't live in the city. >> Well, no. Well, I'm not saying the city manager. I mean, his staff, Jerry, I
mean, let's >> Yeah, I monitor it 24 hours a day. >> All right. So, >> mayor, mayor, I just wanted I want to make one more point. A number of years ago to eliminate things like this, the state statutes regarding code
enforcement were revised to state that we do not accept anonymous complaints. Mhm. >> So, I don't know who the anonymous complainant is, but I've only received two complaints >> and construction is ongoing. We've not affected traffic on Collins with this
significant construction project. And I would say that this is actually so far a good model for construction going forward. Uh they have a good neighbor agreement with the neighbor next door. They've been advised of all of the
construction hours. I've spoken to some of them as well as the manager. So, I'm not advocating. I'm just saying we consider all of these factors in these approvals, including we're only approving them three months at a time, >> right?
>> And so, there's also a clause that if there is a significant issue, I have the ability to revoke those hours. >> But so far, through a number of these projects, we've worked well together. any issues I've had to Commissioner
Lama's point, including late in the night or early in the morning, we've required a 24-hour representative that I can make a phone call and have it rectified. >> Okay. >> All right. Um All right. It's 5:32.
Are we okay to keep going? We're gonna >> So, uh All right. Let's let's go one by one and see how how many we can go ahead. >> So the next one that we have is 3C suitable locations for car carriers.
>> Yes. So we had this on last month. We spoke about it and we need to have some type of resolution. Uh we has anyone been delegated to look into it? Uh Mr. city manager
>> mayor past month. >> Please go ahead. >> We've brought the item back. You asked that it be brought back. We brought it back in the original form with the original locations. No one has offered us any additional locations.
>> Okay. So for for me, I believe that uh for the south end of the city, it makes sense to have the um the yellow marked area on North Bay
Road, which is a wide enough area for a semi uh as the staging area for that part of the city. uh we have to then just resolve uh a place for the north end.
>> The three are the three locations are north bay road. So which is specifically you are talking about? We have the three three of them are north bay road. >> Yeah. So on north bay road um down by plaza of the Americas. >> N okay 1690.
>> Okay. It's the widest uh area and you have the median uh yellow marked median which would be the staging area. It's safe and I I believe that's a uh sensible area to have that uh the
pickups >> there really not a lot of places in the city. >> I disagree. >> Yes. >> Well, uh and this is my take on it, Jerry. I think if you pick a spot, it's it's not we do get the car deliveries, but they're not every day. So, if you
pick a spot, you're going to disproportionately affect that whatever area it is, whatever spot is chosen. >> So, I think it's better not to have a resolution and that way it's
the the problem is distributed. Uh and if it happens to happen in front of PL of the Americas, it happens in front of the plaza of the Americas. But if you turn that block into uh a truck stop, uh that's going to be very displeasing to everybody in in in that area. You
have you have 800 units in Plaza of the Americas alone, plus intra coastal, plus Porto Bellagio, plus Beach Place that all of those families, all of those people, their their quality of life is affected if that's where you decide that all the trucks are going to come.
>> That's right. There's not all those trucks. There aren't that many. >> Exactly my point. There aren't that many. So when there is and you design and they always come to the same spot, whether it's there or the front of your house, nobody's going to want it. >> Let the vice mayor finish. So we're
>> If I had an area like that in the north end of the city, I would be happy to have the trucks come there. >> Your house is perfect. I think that road is perfect. There's very little traffic. There's, you know, houses in front of your house. Like that street right in front of your house. You can put a semi.
There's there's individual houses so it's not a lot of families and you can just drive around the truck with no problem. But this is my point, Jerry. Like you wouldn't want it in front of your house and I wouldn't put it in front of your house. >> But there is no median in front of my house that's wide like on North Bay
Road. >> And anyway, like you said, you're getting trucks there in any regard and there aren't that many. >> Exactly my point. So then you don't need a resolution. >> People transporting their cars from Portabalagio and uh
>> the Americas. They're not going to come to that area. We're going to look for a a northern area as well for staging. >> Well, my position is not to have a resolution and let it be wherever it's going to be. >> Then it's haphazard and it's just not it's it makes no sense. >> Then I want to solve anything.
>> I want it in golden short. But we cannot enforce right now because we don't have a location and we have to pick a location so we can enforce. So I'm okay voting or giving direction for one specific location for this because
that's the issue why we cannot enforce and right now it's a free-for-all. They can do anything they want wherever they want. So I'm okay picking one of the location that we have consensus on. >> Okay. Um Mr. City attorney. >> Yeah, you you can enforce right now. We are doing enforcement with regards to
parking and then certain citations that the police can get into, but the police can't do a whole lot, but we can through code enforcement. Uh we're just limited on what we can charge based on Miami date county regulations. Uh so you can enforce right now and they are um the
location is just that if you want to create an ordinance where there's a violation of your ordinance in addition to the parking, that's the lack of enforcement because you really have to give a location. But it's not like there's zero enforcement now. There is enforcement now. >> Okay. I think you're going to
disproportionately negatively impact the people of wherever you put it. >> Uh how about if we look at it differently? How about if we look at it where certain like we pick spots where they cannot absolutely deliver cars,
>> you know? I mean, it's like because North Bay Road, they've been doing it in North Bay Road. I've seen them after hours doing it by the schools. So >> I think everybody would want to be there. The area in front of their house >> is the place where they wouldn't want it to deliver. >> No, I understand.
>> I vote North Bay Road. No, that's the area where we don't want >> That's just obnoxious. >> That's my vote. >> The The problem with putting it there, North Bay Road by by by plaza is that you have the problem with the inter coastal which that entrance is is problematic.
There's a line that forms there with the cars. So, I mean, North Bay Road past the church, you know, around that area. Um, >> I think the solution I've seen there, huh? >> The solution is worse than the problem.
>> There's no church on North Bay Road over by Portoagio. >> No, no, I'm saying past you have Okay. You have Gwen Margolles Park. >> That That would That's not >> I'm not talking about Porto Bellagio. I'm talking about North Bay Road on the other side. Yeah, but that's not an appropriate area. >> Listen,
>> they they they do deliveries there. >> Well, we have to stop it. That's why it's not a >> I don't see I haven't seen any interruption when they stop there. The cars just go around and >> they go around. It's only a matter of time before there's an accident. >> So, the problem we have is that we don't have a consensus on this on the place.
>> Well, that's why keep coming back because it's a place. >> We need to require simple a resolution. >> That's why it comes back every month. Yeah, I'm okay picking a place and whoever is going to get affected is going to be affected. It is what it is.
>> I'm not in support of picking a place because I think that I I agree disproportionately affecting one area of the city is just going to create a much bigger problem. Um I I I do not like it when they're in Golden Shores. It irritates me. I I called the manager. I
I mean I it's bad. But at the same time it's going to be then in front in front of somebody else. >> So this is another case. >> So we got to pick a place where there's pick anything. >> Yes, we have to. >> You don't have to pick anything. You can leave it alone and it is what it is. >> All right. >> We have rules and regulations for
everything. This not because it affect you personally. Doesn't make any sense. >> It's not just personally the entire area. You have hundreds of families. Since I've been here, we keep passing laws and laws to restrict more of the will of the commission and giving it to
the staff. So now that we can continue doing what we've been doing consistently, but it affect directly to one of the commissioners, now suddenly we don't want to do it. This doesn't make any sense. We pick a place that's a place. It is what it is. >> I I don't think that's a fair statement. It's not affecting one person in
particular. There's a lot of people that live there. Um All right. So, what what do we need for for this item? >> Um, >> nothing. >> It doesn't move. Correct. Okay. >> And mayor, just just for point of clarification and procedurally, the item
won't come up again next month >> because we don't have consensus. >> I think we need to stick to our rule of three months. >> Well, >> otherwise, we're going to be sitting here, you know, all night talking about the same things that we can't come to to consensus on. We'll bring it up in uh
January. >> Um okay, >> that's not three months. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Next item is 3D enforcement and compliance of city ordinances. >> Okay. So, we have >> I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, we have the same issue. We were supposed to speak about the dogs in the park and on the beach. Have have we had anything with code enforcement regarding um that issue since last month?
>> There was I think the entire commission >> last month. So I'm not sure what the what the question is. >> There was supposed to have been code enforcement looking at how we could resolve the issue of dogs on the beach. >> Remind me please. I'm We voted on an
item. No, you you actually were the one to say let's take let's bring it up next month. In the meantime, uh code enforcement will uh look into the dogs on the beach and how they can further
regulate it and and and stop the dogs. >> I think we are all in the agree that we want to make sure that >> yes >> code is looking into the dogs on the beach. >> So what's occurred in the last month? That's why I brought it up again because that's another issue that got gets
kicked down the road. >> Mayor, >> we do enforcement for dogs on the beach seven days a week. >> Okay. So, >> we've been doing it and we continue to do it. >> So, to include that in your report, >> but I was told that I was told that
>> it is included in my report. >> Okay. I was told that um we still have the same issue that so the u reason for this discussion tonight was to find out what has changed
from last month. We were supposed to get some type of report but I guess it's not forthcoming. >> So it's in >> should I bring it up again next month? Do we need another month to >> My answer would be the same report
>> as it was last month, which is you get a monthly report. We do enforcement for dogs on the beach seven days a week and we're going to continue to do that. We have some challenges with the enforcement legally and until that
changes, we're going to continue with our plan. But we we have actively >> infor every month. Yes, >> correct. So, do you want to change the report? Is that your request? >> If I remember correctly, it would it was your um reference saying that we need to
see what code enforcement can do. Let's let's have them tell us next month how they're doing better enforcement. >> Yes. Do you want to go back and listen to the workshop? >> It's fine. So, are you asking for more information as far as the how many
tickets? Because right now we put Let me just ask the manager for the in the monthly report we provide the the numbers for the dogs on the beach. >> Yes. >> Um okay. >> If
Jere what you want is to know what is the process that's the request you need to make. What is it that we can do with what is it that we cannot do? How >> I've heard from residents that the issue of dogs on the beach is not being
attended to. So I brought it up um as to other um ordinances that we have in the city that are not attended to that are that need better um you know maintenance. So I want to
understand if I am in the beach with my dog, my dog is in the water with me. He's not a service dog. What are the consequences for me personally? I'm there with my dog swimming on the beach. What will be the consequences? >> Go ahead. What is the process? Yeah,
>> Julio. Ulio very briefly. >> Yes sir. >> Explain the process. >> Good afternoon everyone. Um so first of all we're we don't know if if the animal is a a service dog or not and we're not allowed to ask if it's
where there is only two questions we're allowed to ask. It's is your dog a service animal and what duty does it provide? What service does it provide? That's it. But if the person tells us that it is a service dog, we have no way
of determining that it's not. That's the challenge the city manager was mentioning. So it's it's it's very difficult for us to potentially infringe on somebody's ADA requirements because the law does not allow us to inquire any further.
>> Okay. So to my point, so I'm in the water with my dog. somebody from court enforcement comes and said oh madam is it service dog or not whatever and if I lie which technique you cannot do because that's also uh punishable um you
guys cannot do anything >> no >> basically okay like I said before I had I know personally people who went through this in the beach in Hollywood beach and they got a ticket so if possible we have a very good uh
communication with our municipalities ities and we spoke about this many times long time ago again uh just let's reach out to them because I know of them for a fact that they give tickets to the people uh when they are in the beach with their dogs and maybe after that
research and with the city attorney we can be a little bit more proactive because it's escalating it's true so >> so I from from a regulation standpoint you you've done all you can from a regulation standpoint from an enforcement standpoint for he's correct. If somebody says it's my service dog,
you're done. The inquiry is done. You have to take them at their word and that's federal law. >> Uh if they tell you it's not a service dog and they're honest, then you can proceed with enforcement. But >> if they lie to you that you can't you can't they don't have to have anything
on them to indicate that they're trained. They don't have to mark the dog in any way and >> they don't have to have a leash. The only thing is you you still even though it's ADA protected, your dog still you still have to have control over your dog, right? And they can't
defecate. They can't do you have to be able to control your dog. So let's say you're sitting at an outdoor little cafe there and you have a service dog. That service dog has to be able to behave and be trained. If it's not, you can ask them to leave. Not because they're a service dog or you don't want dogs, but
because you can't control your dog or if they urinate or defecate, you can kick them out for that reason. So, same thing on the beach. Fortunately, and it's the same thing with homeless and with anyone else, your code enforcement officers, your police officers have to witness the
dog defecating or urinating, right? For that because it's a misdemeanor. So, they have to witness it. So, if a code enforcement officer is there and the dog defecates, absolutely, you can give them a ticket. If they admit to you that, "No, it's not a service dog. I didn't know I wasn't supposed to have a dog
here." You can give them a ticket. But if it's an ADA, if they if they lie, unfortunately, and every jurisdiction is dealing with it, unfortunately. >> And a couple quick things, you know, the leash. Yes. But if if the duty, so it says in control, it doesn't even say it has to
be leashed because of a specific duty. it's it's supposed to perform requires it to be off a leash and it doesn't need a leash. >> I have done extensive research and unfortunately the county also has you know hollowover um and and and and
different cities. The problem there's only two cities that have been able to site and issue a citation that they can take somebody to county court. That system is not set up in Miami Dade County. So there's nothing to attach a
citation to because code enforcement typically issues citations to properties or where the property where the violation exists and there really is no way for us to collect a citation. And I've been in contact with everyone from the county and and different
municipalities and there isn't every municipality I've spoken to. They just tell me that they issue warnings. Um, and then that's pretty much >> And if you give them and if you give them a ticket, you can give them a ticket and if they pay it, wonderful, great, you know, and that's fine. But if
they choose not to pay it, like Julio says, there's very little you can do. There's nothing you can attach, >> which is still something we are looking to do is is still issue citations when we do find those violations. Then that is in the process. We're actually printing those citations as we speak because we're going to be using those
citations for the new scooter ordinance that was just passed >> and we can bring them in front of the special magistrate and again the special magistrate can go ahead and say yes you have to pay it but if they don't pay it we don't have a property to attach to it. We don't you know it's a personal violation. So those are the challenges
that they face. >> What about creating a registry? >> We can we can we can research that. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Register your dog. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Under the ADA though, you wouldn't be allowed you wouldn't be allowed to
force them to register their dog. >> So, yeah, short of having a code person at every single beach access there all day. to look, you know, we've we've encountered we've had approximately
2400 encounters, so warnings, different situations dealing with animals so far this fiscal year. I know because I I requested to compile some of those stats because that's one of those stats that we're putting in as our goals in the
budget. Um it'll be the first time it'll be there in the budget. So in addition to the regular monthly stats you get because it's such a big issue. I've put it as one of our goals as well. So it can be counted and that that's a huge increase from previously and it's
primarily due to now having two dedicated individuals that are working park ranger duties who like the city manager said are always patrolling the beach every single day twice a day and doing as much as they can with their
limited ability that they have. Yeah, just >> people need to be better neighbors to each other. Um, >> have we uh updated the signs everywhere? I know that we did that. We we were meant to do the the the beach access
signs. They're all Every single one is updated, correct? There was new ones. Some of them were old, remember? They're all all say no dogs. >> Yes. All of them. >> They say service animals. And I think that our garbage cans had something on
there as well. >> The ones on the beach have the symbols. Yes, it's a graphic. >> I think some of them are a little faded. >> He just ordered some new ones. Every year he replaces >> me >> to a limit. >> Can we do some social media push or something just to
>> We do frequently do social media pushes on dogs. >> I believe we did one right after the last meeting. >> Okay. >> Okay. These these um In my kids pediatricians in pediatric associate there is this sign and it says
service animals policy. Only service animals as defined by the American with disabilities act the department of justice and Florida statue are allowed in our premises. No pets allowed in this facility. Owner's responsibility.
An individual who knowingly and willfully misrepresents herself or himself through conduct or verbal or written notice as using a service animal and being qualified to use a service animal
or as a trainer of a service animal. commit a misdemeanor of the second degree punishable as provided in statute 775 082 775 083. >> We may be a big sign.
>> We've put that in our signs. Actually, we've been we created a warning last year that's like a pamphlet, but it says warning on it. >> And I actually put that language in there to show the seriousness of it to try to get people to comply more. So, we
actually have that that language in there. >> Again, unfortunately, once they tell you you can't inquire any further, so how do you find out they're lying to you? You can't under federal law, you can't inquire further. So, it's great to have that language there, and it scares some people, but from a
compliance standpoint and enforcement standpoint, you cannot federally ask them any other questions, and you can't find out if they're lying or not. >> The people that are not lying are the ones that it's going to scare. >> Exactly. >> Right. Um, okay folks, it's six o'clock.
>> Do we want to take a break? >> I'm ready to call it. Yeah. >> And can we do we start with these items or we just push them? >> Uh, no. I think we need to go to the to the end. >> For discussion items. >> Oh, at the end of the meeting, you mean? >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> I think that's better because I'm I >> Okay. Okay. All right. So, uh, we'll adjourn and see everyone at 6:30. >> Yes. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. So, we're going to go back to the workshop that we did not finish. >> So, we were on item Mauricio, please,
uh, if you can remind us all. >> We left off on item 3F, which is a discussion regarding the misuse of handicap parking tags. >> Okay, Commissioner Joseph, this was your item. >> Yes. Hold on. I have to get to a minute, please.
>> Okay. Here. Which one is it? >> Misuse of handicap parking tags. >> Yes. Okay. So, the city of Hyalia has um and I'd like to follow their lead regarding their um there was a video.
Mauricio, I sent you the video. Did you happen to see it? >> Uh, no. I couldn't open it and I forgot to tell you that I wasn't able to open that. Commissioner, I apologize. >> Anyway, let me see if I have it. Let's see.
I actually have it on my phone. >> Mayor, >> yes, >> maybe I can help. Uh, we already do this. >> Okay. >> And I've asked code to step up the enforcement of it, but we do this on a regular basis. >> All right. I see that there 112
citations from October 25th through end of April. I'm assuming April 9th there's missing a Okay. >> I asked uh I asked code to give us some statistics on it. So we've issued uh 112. >> Okay. >> Regarding hand uh illegal use of
handicap parking >> parking in a handicap space without the proper uh sticker. >> Yes. But okay. So, also I would like for us to investigate uh whether we could um
work with the tax assessor because they actually issue the handicap uh rearview mirror uh hanging parts, right? Is that who issues them? Dario,
>> I don't I don't know. >> Okay. I would like us to begin to work with that office to see how we could um verify that these people are actually handicapped that are getting these uh stickers.
>> I can tell you that to get that designation for handicap, you have to come in personally as the handicap person um and swear that and show that you have disability from a doctor. >> Okay. and then they give it to you and I
think you have to renew it uh depending on the on the disability. >> There are so many people I see from and you I mean you never know what someone's disability is but you go to um and I'm sure everyone else sees as well. You go
to Costco and they have that first row is all handicapped and you see people get out of those cars, out of expensive cars and they just don't look handicapped. I mean, you never know if they have high blood pressure or whatever or some other condition, but
still on the surface these people do not look handicapped. So, I'm just thinking a a certain number have to be using these tags fraudulently. >> Okay. But I I think that it's not really incumbent on us to oversee another
office of the county. >> I Well, I I would Hyali is doing something. I would like to follow Hyalia's lead. >> What are they doing? >> That's what I'm trying to get the video. There was a video. I believe it was on channel 10. >> If I may, I believe it was Miami
Springs. I did see the video. Yes, >> theirs was people parking without the hanger tag, which is what we are currently doing. So, it's not that they had a that they had something that
>> But I think people also with the hanger tags that were not legitimate. The video that I saw was um they did um an operation where they went to all of the businesses and were checking and people were they stopped and asked people and
they had I'm just running in for a minute type of thing and >> it was more parking there without the hangar tag. >> Right. Okay. >> Okay. So, I would like to if we could um get in touch with um Miami Lakes and see
what they're doing and follow their lead. >> Okay. But you don't know what it is that they're doing that you want to follow. >> There was there was there was the video that I sent to Mauricio. It said exactly what they're doing. >> But what is it that you are going to vote on? What do you want us to support?
I want us to support um enforcement of uh uh the uh use of handicapped spaces illegally. >> Okay. So, I think we have support from
everyone on that. That's what we're doing. Okay. >> And I will forward everyone the video if if I'm allowed to do that so you see exactly what it is. >> I think Susan just explained it, but sure. Okay. >> Yes. But you have to see it yourself.
It's uh >> All right. >> It's self-explanatory. >> All right. And then there's one more item that's yours from earlier. >> Yes. 3G is a discussion regarding public comments during commission workshop items. >> Okay. Okay. So yes, open workshop items.
Okay. So, I would like to have it where we have resident input during the workshop items. >> Mhm. >> That you could also fill out a form and uh speak regarding our workshop items.
>> Okay. And if >> everyone's open to that, >> what's the reasoning? What's your reasoning? reasoning is because uh residents have an interest in some of our workshop items and I would like to have their input. >> Okay. Um how would somebody have input
on this item for instance >> on this item? >> No, for the the one that we just spoke about. >> Okay. Well, they could say that they've also witnessed um this situation or they have a handicap tag themselves and uh
they uh you know there was a spot that was being used illegally and it didn't afford them the space. So, I would like to hear that. >> Okay. So, just for for clarification, I'd like the the city attorney um just so that we understand what we're talking
about because I know it's late in the evening. So as far as you know the difference between a workshop what what's the purpose of the workshop and the purpose of our actual working session where we take action >> well generally I mean I know we call it a workshop but a lot of places call it a
conference meeting or the the purpose typically is this is your opportunity a workshop as we call it is your opportunity to speak as elected official with each other. So it's kind of a conference meeting. So this is the only legal way you all can talk about things.
Uh and there's no action items. You don't make any decisions. There's no formal action that takes place. So essentially that's the purpose of it. Um you're not legally required to take public comment during workshops or conference meetings uh because you're not acting on anything. So I mean you
can if you want to, but you certainly don't have to from a legal standpoint. Um and ultimately again generally as a practice these conference meetings allow you to speak about these issues, bring up these issues and if there's some kind of
consensus usually that'll be some follow-up action. So for example here if there's something to be done following that that that's going to turn into some kind of formal action where the public at that point has all the opportunities they can to speak on it and so on and so forth. So again, legally it's not
required, but there's nothing prohibiting it either. >> Okay. Um >> well, I believe that we should restore the option of the people talking during the workshops. Uh we had it before this
administration make that change and it's true that technically we are not taking action because we are not voting. But we are voting to have consensus. Consensus is basically voting. We are voting. Oh yeah, we have consensus to present this as a resolution to present this as an
ordinance. We should be listening to the people. It's more transparency. Um that this should have never had changed. We are right now basically uh shielding the people from coming and talking about the issue that are important for them. Many
times we are putting discussion items because it is the public which is requesting us to put at least to me to put these discussion items for them but then they are not able to speak about it that doesn't make any sense. So if we can bring items to the agenda because
the people is asking us to put those items how come they cannot come and present what is it that they wanted to say in the first place. So this administration decided to make that change. I think is completely wrong and I'm comp and I'm for opening to the
public to be able to come during the discussion items and participate. >> Okay. >> Just one thing I forgot to mention also you do have your public forum. So if someone because the citizens bill of rights under Miami date county ordinances which you've adopted in yours uh addresses the ability of a citizen to
be able to come and bring something to you which they're able to do in the public format. It's a little different than speaking at the workshop, but I just wanted to make that distinction that they're able to do that with the public for >> and to the question of the mayor about what about the item that we just
discussed. I had issue I have many times a mom which I remember I sent the text to a stamp back in the days that she has a child with disability and almost every day when she was going to the school the blue parking spaces were taken by
certain vehicles. We sent the pictures, these people stopped doing what they were doing. But she was telling me about this issue. So if we are talking about these spaces for people with disabilities, that mom will be here taking letting us know how is affecting
her child specifically a girl with disabilities when she goes to the school and she cannot park because there are vehicles there without any kind of like a permit. We're just parking there because it's convenient and I understand. So if we have a discussion item like the one that he just brought,
we will have that moment here and she should be able to be listened. Um so I do believe uh if we want to be transparent uh we should be having um the workshops open to the public. >> Okay. Well, for clarification, the
workshops are open to the public and the public has an opportunity to speak at the commission meeting. the the public can contact us individually. The public elected this body to represent them. Um they do not need to come if they don't
want to because they can watch uh on um YouTube, they can email us. Um and they are free to come to speak on any item, not just an item on the agenda. We've never prohibited anyone from uh contacting us or voicing their concern
or their uh approval for that matter. But I'd like to hear from the rest of the commission because I I want to remind everyone that at the end of the day, we're here to do the the city business. And if we and I'm very supportive of having more public input.
So if we want to, we are free to do town halls um to have that we can add additional meetings in order to hear the residents. But as far as that as an example, that item um I get it. I
understand that there is >> Oh, I found the video. >> No, thank you. I understand that. But my point is is that the public needs to have a very specific uh instruction as to what it is they would be speaking on. And when we're just discussing, we are trying to discuss and speak amongst us.
And we ourselves aren't even certain what it is we're going to be talking about as Commissioner Joseph wasn't even sure what city it was. So to have the public come and speak on it in any sort of uh intelligent way is going to be very difficult and challenging for them. But let me hear from the rest of the commission.
>> Um >> I have a question. When be >> it it's not like we just remove public comment and you know it's we reshaped the whole thing. We used to have everything in one meeting and then we
would be here like forever. Uh and and um right like all the discussion items we would have our our discussion items were at the end. >> So we had our agenda reviews individually which were not open to the public. >> I mean we had our commission meetings >> and then we had our commission meeting
that with everything >> agenda items or the voting items and then all the discussion items came at the end of the commission. Remind me please, Mauricio. They were at the end, right? The discussion items. >> Yes, the discussion items. >> Oh, we we would do the proclamations and the presentations and the pictures at the beginning.
>> At the beginning, then we would do the agenda items and then we would do all the discussion items. Did we allow a disc um public comment on the discussion items? I I don't remember. >> I can't remember off the top of my head to be honest with you. >> I don't know. So, I don't know. I
remember I remember I do remember being here for many years since 2016 sitting down as a resident and before we will have a back and forth with the whole commission at any time for any issue resolutions proclamations
discussion items you name it. It was this commission the one that they stopped that until 2022 that's how we were we were really open to the public. So right now uh to the example of the parking issue. So if we're talking about
that 3:30 now we want a mom to come at 8:30 to remind us what we discussed back at 3:30 about those parking spaces doesn't make any sense. We are here for the people as is as of right now the way it is we are chilling the people of even
having the staff like we used to have here over the years until 2023. So is this administration the one that has gone backwards in transparency? It has gone backwards in allowing the
people to have access to the staff and to us. It's true that they can call us, they can text, they can email, they can do whatever they want, but they have the right to be here and to be listened when we are having those discussions. That's why we get elected. So yes, I rem I
remember coming here for many years in that podium and being able to talk with the members of the commission. >> Yeah. No, and I remember you uh speaking. I just honestly I I I can't recall whether I I just don't remember
like whether discussion items also had the the public component or not. >> But we restructured everything so that we would have the agenda review which is public. We used to have them individual. So that's more transparency. Then we
broke up all the presentations because we would use up like basically our our our best focus hours taking pictures and then at 9:00 or 10:00 we would start with the >> with the uh um the substantive things and uh we were tired uh by by the end
and there was still important things. So so we restructured everything to to allow for more transparency and also better focus for us on on on substantive matters. Uh, so I mean I it's just
different. I I it's and I I I don't have um more to add to it because I would have to go back and review what we were doing before. Um but I mean I think I think the the the workshops is really for us to be able to
have a conversation with for ourselves to be able to direct future items. Uh so um and we just finished having a three-hour one. >> Okay. >> U just us, >> right? >> We had the public,
>> you know. I Yeah. I I uh the whole point was to make it more manageable and we keep making it. >> Wait, we we are here only once a month. So we restructure that. We should re restructure because clearly it's not >> Okay, Commissioner Stevenson, whatever.
Hold on a second. Let let let Commissioner Llama have his his >> I was okay. I was going to say I was done. >> You're done. Thank you, Commissioner Llama. >> Yeah. I would like to see, you know, if they want to participate, say any comments during our Well, we're saying workshops, but it's really agenda review, right? We're we're referring to
or workshops or anything. >> During the workshop, they could write up a slip at 3:00 at the 3:00 hour between the three and five >> and they could have input >> to with us. >> Yeah. to m maybe add some good ideas.
You never know. >> I'm okay with that. Yeah. Now, what we really should be thinking is how how do we get more people through those doors? >> Exactly. Well, this is transparency is one way. >> Well, I don't know. >> Well, >> yeah. Well, but but yeah, I'm I'm okay
with with people talking during our workshops. It's it's okay. >> And showing openness to have people participate. We are shoeing people away with our >> I I I mean I I I wouldn't say that, Jerry. >> Well, may I?
>> They know. >> Go ahead. >> Uh I just wanted to point out that all of our meetings are open to the public. They're welcome to to attend. I keep hearing, for lack of a better word, stories about all of the people that want to participate. At our last agenda review,
there was one person there. So, where are they? >> Yeah, >> I haven't heard from them. Um I'm not aware that you've heard from them. So they're welcome to bring their concerns forward. They have a public forum now. Our last meeting
>> went over three hours. So >> we can we can do this. Um we just need to probably start earlier and we could make it an all day event on Thursday. Well, we could see. Well, f first of all, not a lot of people come, so we
could let them speak. Obviously, we could structure in a way where obviously it doesn't go overboard when it comes to time. Um, >> but that's just it. So let me ask you a question because this is this is you
know in in theory it sounds great but in practice that's what we need to consider because right now if I'm looking at the agenda items for the workshop we all had agreed at certain point that the memos would have some detailed information so that we all would have some information
to discuss so we would not be left with kind of what do what are you talking about? We've gone to a place now where the memo barely says anything. Mhm. >> So, if you're going to expect, and again, I support the public participating. I would love it if this place was filled every single day, not
just when people were unhappy. If you're going to expect them to be able to participate in a meaningful way, then it's going to be incumbent on us to create a memo that gives them all the information they need to know, not just a free-for-all of, well, I have
something to say. Because at the end of the day, we need to stick to an agenda, otherwise we will be here indefinitely. And remember that the public comment comes first and then will be our discussion. You understand? So it's not going to be it's not a back and forth. So we have to be very clear as to what
we're agreeing to. >> Maybe Mauricio can take emails from residents. >> Hold on. But let Commissioner Lama finish if any other questions he had. >> No, but what what I'm trying to say is that whoever is present there right at
our workshops. >> You know, sadly it's not enough people there that come to our commission meetings. So, you know, we got to see how we get more people through the door. But whoever is there, we could probably um structure in a way where they they do
get to comment or ask a couple of questions and you know not with the intent of extending it so it's let's say all day or it's a marathon but at least for them to have their say or if they have an idea or an observation for them
to express that. I I don't see you know an issue with that. Um, and then we we could test it out. We could always like we always keep adjusting different things. We could adjust it if need be. >> Just to your point though, the the code
you'd still have to follow your code, right? So, you'd still have to because your code says that like what the mayor had stated before that public comment comes before you talking about an item. So if you have something on the agenda, it would have to be sufficiently clear what that item is because the public
wouldn't know what to say before you all even start discussing it. So you'd still you may you might have to amend those rules, but to be able to change the way you're suggesting, you'd have to change your code. >> Got it. Okay. Well, we could try it out.
I mean, yeah, I think that the public, whoever goes to that workshop, should be able to say something. >> So, that means we would have to then be very strict with our memo requirements because the public needs to know what it
is. >> Some of these memos, I'm like, okay, item to be presented. I'm like, I, you know, we had talked about having at least some sort of paragraph describing, right? you know what that item is going to be about and we're not getting that.
So, I think we need to stick to the rules that we put together so there's order and it's fair to everybody including ourselves. >> That's what it is. >> The residents, etc. >> Okay. Um
>> and maybe we should limit the amount of discussion items perhaps that each one of us could put sometimes. I mean, I don't know. >> Can we put 10 on a day? I don't know. >> Well, that's >> we got to be cognizant of that.
>> Sometimes, you know, some of these discussion items, if it can wait for the next month or I I don't know. We need to look into that as well. >> Some of the discussion items if if >> there could be an email. >> It could really could be an email. >> Could be an email >> and and uh
whatever. Um yeah, I'm sorry. I'm I'm I'm done. >> I'm crashing. Yeah. >> Commissioner, I'm sorry. Can you please mute? Commissioner, can you please Thank you. >> Okay. Um, so where did we land?
>> I'm open to having the public, you know, talk. >> Okay. So, does that mean limiting our discussion? >> I remember what I was going to say. Sorry. Go ahead. >> Then we we need to have like a hard stop then like uh >> Yeah. There's no more continuation. >> Correct. like and then so we can put
let's say whatever it's supposed to be uh and and not have it per item because then we'll be here you know we could potentially be here like we were today but we I would be okay I would be okay with um considering like if it's not
against our code or whatever opening uh the um public comment at the end you know so that it's we do an hour and a half or whatever and then um public comment but >> or at the beginning >> or or whatever, but just not every item
because then right >> not per item because then we will we will potentially just make this even longer and like I said today we were here three hours just us like no public comment >> right but then the public comment would have to become would be in the beginning
because it is it's not be it's before we speak about it >> because that's what used to happen before when the meetings went forever and then public comment there was like one person left David. It was David and that was >> and that was it. >> So even when we had public comment there
was it wasn't really an opportunity because it was 11:30 by the time we got there >> which is when we broke up the meetings. So >> can you turn that off? Um, how can we have a better discussion about this because it's late and I feel
like people are >> literally walking out uh so that this this is meaningful because I don't feel like we've landed anywhere right now. >> Well, I think it's kind of very simple. Today we have a workshop with a long agenda. If pe if it doesn't make sense
to say that we want to have more people here and we and and we don't want them to talk. So where they going to be coming for? It doesn't make zero sense. If you have if you're coming is because the issue there is an issue there in the agenda that you want to speak about it.
Clearly people just now walking around and say oh let's go inside and see what is it that they're talking about for me to then participate. People will come if they can be listened to. We changed the rules of engagement. This has to be re
restructured. We have to allow the people to come and speak on the issue on the agenda that is important for them. If we start at three, we can say we cannot go after 5:30 whatever time that we put and then if we have still some
items then we can pass it like right now what we are doing at the end of the commission meeting. So it's super simple. We had it like that. It worked for like 24 years and we just changers or 25 years and it was just recently changed and people frustrated about it.
I am here I am being listened to and I am frustrated for them because I remember being on the other side and just to remind you guys after November you guys are not going to be sitting down here and you have eight years of knowledge of being here. So there are
going to be items that probably you know a lot about it. you have a lot to say and it's going to be really helpful to listen to you. But guess what? If there is not open to the public, you guys are going to be sitting down there and you cannot talk during the discussion item.
Does that make any sense to not allow a former commissioner that have a lot of knowledge about the issue to not be able to talk or it's going to be different rules for different type of citizens? Okay, >> think about that one.
>> I'm not against it. >> Okay, >> it's just that it I don't know if it's up to the code, but I also don't want to pretend like the way that we had it before was working and perfect because it wasn't. >> Okay. Well, for me, >> I don't have my mic. >> I'm here once a month. I don't care if I'm here all day. >> All right.
>> Once a month. >> Exactly. >> Okay. All right. like we don't need a motion to adjurnn because these are discussion. So for the next month we are going to have the people being able to come and talk to us.
>> Yes. So we're looking to open up the workshop. That's what we're asking. >> That's it. Yeah. So if we want to have people ready to come. >> Okay. So there is consensus I guess. >> Yeah. I I I I'm open to it and we can try it. >> Hold on a second. So, uh, procedurally,
Mr. City Attorney, what information do we need, if anything? >> Well, if there's a consensus to I mean, again, we pretty much have to follow the code. I could sit down with the city clerk. I mean, just anecdotally, when I first started here three years ago, it seems there were a lot less discussion
items. Um, like today, we had seven. So, there may be some merit to limiting the discussion items if you really want to allow public input so that there's enough time for the public to actually speak. Uh, so you may want to consider that, but we'd have to go through procedurally and see um how we work that
out. >> So, let's start at 2:00. >> Okay. So, >> I'm fine with starting at 2:00 instead of three. >> Yeah. The only >> Wait, stop. >> Yeah, you can deviate times for your afternoon meeting. Not so not not the nighttime meeting, but um you can
fluctuate times for your afternoon meeting if you want. >> Okay. So, you can fluctuate time. So, how about we have the city clerk sit down with the attorney to put something together. Um, anything that we do I this is a great opportunity to really discuss how we have not been following our own
rules and we do need to provide an actual memo that not only the public but that we collectively know what we're talking about so that we're not looking like we're scrambling up here because we one second please. >> Yes. >> So that we're not just throwing a bunch of stuff that we kind of thought about.
It needs to be something that is of substance that we can have an intelligent conversation. So then the public can also contribute whatever it is they're thinking so that it's not a discussion of what we think it is and the public thinks it's something totally different. >> And if we could talk with staff before we put something on the agenda so that
if it can be an email, make it an email. >> I would con I agree to that as well. I think that we need to have discussions with staff prior to putting stuff um on on the discussion items so that we can ask them some of the questions that unfortunately when we ask them it's they
we have to wait until the next month. So do we have consensus on that? >> Who is staff? >> That's the question asked. >> The city manager. >> Yes. Okay. >> So are we okay with that? >> Well, so we have consensus for the next months the people can come and whatever
item it is in the agenda in the workshop they can. >> Right. Okay. But do we have to speak? >> I I think what we have consensus on is >> let's see how it can be structured. >> No, that's not what I understand. >> That's No, we want to start it for next month. >> Well, we have to see how it can be
structured first. Like we had already spoke >> for forever, >> huh? >> We already spoke of it. >> Yes. >> That you have, >> Alan. Do do you know how it's going to be structured? Well, again, the city clerk and I could say just logistically, we want to make sure that, you know,
we're set up for people to like they do at the nighttime meeting to be able to fill out the cards and it'll be the same three minutes. And again, we'd have to have, I guess, enough information about the items so people know what, you know, we're speaking of. And then again, I
don't know if you want to limit the amount of discussion items >> so you give a fair chance for people to speak on the items. I don't know. >> Maybe if I may. So, I I'll just go a step further um and ask kindly that when
you guys submit your items to me two weeks before that that week following, you know, we meet together along with the city manager, the city attorney, deputy city manager to go over each of your items to see if those items are
better suited to be discussion items or if it's something that staff can address in a one-on-one or in an email or if it's something that can just go directly to the 6:30 meeting. >> So, let's do that at the agenda review. >> Well, no, I'm proposing for that to be done. >> Let the city clerk finish. What are you
saying? >> For that to be done prior. So, the items are due two weeks prior that Friday before two week two Fridays before. >> So, I'm proposing that we meet with you all whoever has an item that they want
to put on the agendas, whether it's the workshop agenda or the 6:30 meeting. We sit down, we discuss those items to see what's the best path to move forward, >> okay, >> with each of you. >> I support that. >> And it's helpful for us, like for example, not to pick on you,
Commissioner Lama, but the one item you had with the single-use plastics, I I didn't get an opportunity to speak with you so much about the legal side of it, but it's helpful because if we could at least we could still bring it, but that that information is all forward and it's here available so that we can discuss
it, then it's helpful if we can participate in that item. >> And then to further add to that, uh oftent times when you guys send me your information, a lot of times it's just a few words, a few sentences, >> and then I'm left to try to figure out
what your intent is or what you want to actually have on the memo. >> So by meeting with us, that'll eliminate a lot of a lot of guessing, for lack of a better word. >> All right. Do we have consensus on that? >> Yes. Yes. And if and if that meeting doesn't happen, then it doesn't make it
on the agenda, >> right? >> I'll leave that for you all. >> I agree. Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Perfect. >> All right. >> Wait, I have one other question. >> Please go ahead. >> So, at next month's workshop, we're going to have if people show up for
participation for each workshop item, the resident would would have questions. We would they would have their input before we have that discussion item. >> Correct. >> Right. Okay.
>> It'll be still be structured the same way that regular city commission meetings are structured where it's them presenting their comments. It's not a back and forth. It's not a conversation with the commission. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> All right. Thank you everyone. Meeting
adjourned. Okay. >> Thank you.