okay good afternoon everyone thank you for being here it is 3:00 302 call the meeting to order commissioner Joseph present commissioner Styver here commissioner Viscara here
vice Mayor Lama here mayor Setchin here all members present great all right start with the first item the first item is a proclamation presented to Norman Edelcup and the proclamation reads "Whereas Norman Edelup played an
instrumental role as a member of the committee to incorporate Sunny Al's Beach and served on the city's citizen planning and advisory committee offering guidance on planning and zoning matters related to the city's comprehensive plan whereas Norman Edel Cup was elected to the Sunny Al Beach City Commission on
September 11th 2001 and from the outset demonstrated an unwavering commitment to the growth and prosperity of the city through dedicated public service and visionary leadership whereas prior to his claim to his election Norman Edup was an active member of the community serving as a founding and director of
the Mount Sinai Medical Center Foundation a member of the North Miami Beach Sunny Alles Beach Kowanas Club and past president of the Kowanas Club of Miami Lakes and whereas following the passing of Mayor David P samson in 2003 then Vice Mayor Norman Edelup assumed
the duties of mayor on October 13th and was subsequently elected as the city's second mayor in a special election held in January 2004 serving with distinction until terming out in November 2014 and whereas Norman Edelup was twice
reelected by the residents of the city reflecting their confidence in his leadership and vision and his enduring legacy continues to shape the identity and success of the city he served so faithfully whereas under Norman Outup's leadership the city experienced transformative development including the
completion of the city's government center in 2005 which houses city offices the police department a Miami date county branch library a US post office and a visitor center and Norman Edup championed the expansion of beach access and lifeguard services as well as the
enhancement of streetscapes parks and public parking whereas Norman Edelup's tenure saw the completion of the city's community center and the establishment of the Norman S edelup Sunny Alles Beach K through8 school in Miami Dade County Public School built with generous support from the city and named in his
honor in recognition of his unwavering dedication to education and youth development now therefore do I suspend as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach hereby proclaim May 8th 2025 as Norman Edel cup day in the city of Sunnyal Beach great thank you okay next item is
the proclamation for the 77th anniversary of Israel's Independence Day the council general and his staff were not able to be here so they requested that we present this at the next meeting there are no objections okay okay next item 2c 2c is Education and Sharing Day
USA 2025 can you read it into the record please yes ma'am one sec the proclamation reads "Whereas a quality education is one of the significant foundations for the continued success of our state our country and our society at large and in the in the city of Sunny Beach we strive
for the betterment of all our citizens through an increased focus on education and sharing and whereas through providing the possibility of an excellent education for all especially children with which to gain knowledge through rigorous study we can create hope for a brighter kinder and more
united and prosperous future in the lives of so many and whereas the educational system must also focus on building character by emphasizing the cultivation of universal moral and ethical values that have been the bedrock of society from the down from
the dawn of civilization including the values known as the seven noahide laws and whereas one of the leading global advocates for the advancement of education the Lubovicher Rebi Rabbi Mansamin of righteous memory serve
stressed the importance of moral and ethical education as a bedrock of humanity and the hallmark of a healthy society and strongly urged that education be reinforced by the inclusion of strong moral values and whereas in recognition of the Reby's outstanding
and lasting contributions toward improvements in world education morality and acts of charity he was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal and the United States Congress has established his birth date as a national day to raise awareness and strengthen the education
of our children whereas April 9th 2025 will mark 123 years since Reby's birth and the date will be celebrated across the United States and around the globe in tribute of the Rebu's vision guidance and leadership whereas for more than 40 years the president of the United States
has recognized and honor Rebu's vision each year on that day by proclaiming it education and sharing day USA now therefore do I Lissa fetch as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Els Beach Florida hereby proclaim Wednesday
April 9th 2025 as education sharing day in the city of Sun Beach thank you all right next item is the Jewish American Heritage Month know it seems like there's a theme here i'll I'll read that into the record whereas Jewish American
Heritage Month is a time to recognize and celebrate the invaluable contributions of Jewish Americans to our nation's history culture and achievements and whereas the city of Sunny Als Beach has always strived to promote diversity equity and inclusion of all its residents stakeholders and
visitors alike and whereas the Jewish community has played a significant role in shaping the fabric of American society enriching our nation with their diverse backgrounds talents and traditions and whereas Jewish Americans have made substantial contributions to various fields including science
medicine academia literature arts entertainment business technology and public service greatly impacting the progress and prosperity of our nation and whereas Jewish American leaders and visionaries have tously advocated for social justice equality and civil rights
promoting a more inclusive and tolerant society for all Americans and whereas Jewish Americans have demonstrated remarkable resilience determination and perseverance in the face of adversity embodying the spirit of the American dream and inspiring generations with
their stories of triumph over hardship and whereas the Jewish community has enriched the cultural landscape of the United States through their vibrant traditions festivals music and culinary heritage contributing to the diversity that defines our nation and whereas
Jewish American history month provides an opportunity for all Americans to deepen their understanding of Jewish history heritage and values fostering dialogue mutual respect and appreciation for the contributions of a Jewish Americans now therefore do I Lissa as mayor and on behalf of the city
commission of the city of Sunny Als Beach Florida hereby proclaim the month of May 2025 as Jewish American Heritage Month in the city of Sunny Als Beach thank you okay next one 2 E is a proclamation presented for
Andrew hatred month 2025 sorry correction it's endrew hatred day which is April 29th uh yeah my apologies yes no no it's okay i I forgot to tell you sorry about that
so uh first I'd like to recognize uh our esteemed um commissioner Sally Haymon thank you for coming he's hiding and you're hiding Sally what's going on there you are nice smile perfect and then I believe uh I don't know if they
came already but we have representatives from uh Sheriff Rosie Cortez Cordiero Stut's office our Miami date county sheriff uh Christine Del Portio i don't know if she's here she's on her way okay perfect and then Vivian Weinstein as
well so I'll read this uh proclamation give me one second okay okay city of Sunnyhouse Beach proclamation whereas there is an urgent need to unify and raise awareness of
international and Jew hatred day and whereas for millennia the Jewish people have sustained their shared religious cultural ethnic identity and traditions in the face of enslavement persecution genocide segregation and
discrimination and all manner or of adversity and whereas the historic surge of anti-semitic prejudice and violence directed at Jewish people and institutions inspired by the formation of a grassroots and Jew hatred civil
rights movement to alter public discourse and make Jew hatred an acceptable and contemporary society empowering Jews with positivity and strength to discover and enjoy their heritage in whichever manner they choose
without fear of attack or persecution and whereas the Jewish community had has profoundly participated in virtually every civil rights effort in the American experience fighting against discrimination and bigotry in all its forms and demanding
the equal rights of every member of society and whereas today there's an obligation to condemn and combat Jew hatred in all its forms and whereas April 29 2025 marks the recognition of the second
annual end Jew hatred day on which people join together and commit to ending Jew hatred across the United States and work towards the promise of an equitable prosperous and safe future for all now
therefore us here at the commission the mayor and commission and on behalf of the sitting commission of the city of Sunny Als Beach Florida reaffirm support of the Jewish community in their pursuit of justice and proclaim every April 29
20 25 and forward as Nu hatred day in the city of Sunny Als Beach witness where off I have here and though set my signature and affix the great seal of the city of San Beach thank you
you wanted to say a few words good afternoon everyone good afternoon good afternoon my name is Jennifer Ensline and I am honored to stand here today representing the Nju hatred day organization to express our deepest gratitude to Mayor Larissa's veteran and
Vice Mayor Alex Lama and the city of Sunny Isles Beach for issuing a proclamation recognizing NU hatred day on April 29th this is more than just a proclamation it is a powerful statement that hatred has no place in our communities by taking this stand the
city of Sunny Isles Beach sets an example for cities across America to follow now more than ever in these challenging times we must come together in the spirit of bipartisanship to confront and eradicate Jew hatred this is not a political issue it is a moral
obligation recognizing and fighting Jew hatred is essential in preserving the values of justice equality and freedom that define our great nation today the city of Sunny Isles Beach sends a clear message jewish civil rights matter and
our communities must be safe for all other cities are inspired by this leadership and have joined in recognizing Nju Hatred Day every year on April 29th yesterday I attended the Miami Day Public School Board meeting
and they joined this effort as well we hope that other school districts will follow as well in Florida this week we also celebrate the story of redemption and we're reminded of the power of perseverance in the face of uncertainty israel faces continued multiffront
threats from Gaza Lebanon Syria Yemen Judea and Samaria and Iran as we celebrate Passover and Easter both spring celebrations let's not forget the 59 hostages who still remain in Gaza including American Alexander Eden
Alexander we cannot celebrate the Jews freedom from bondage in Egypt while these hostages are still helped captivity in tunnels bring them home now as we reflect on the perseverance of the Israelites may we be reminded of the
Jewish people's strength throughout history let's lift our spirits renew hope and remind ourselves why we celebrate freedom let's bring light in these dark times i wish all of you celebrating a meaningful and peaceful Passover a time of freedom faith and
resilience i wish all of you celebrating Easter a day filled with joy love and special blessing on this holiday season thank you Mayors Vetin thank you Vice Mayor Lama and commissioners for a stand for standing on the right side of history let's continue this fight
together end you hatred thank you thank you thank you go down and take a picture [Applause] thank you very much thank
you so we have a really long um workshop agenda today um but I want to recognize uh Tomas Regalado who just got here hi sir uh we do have a very long
agenda normally uh I don't like surprises but it's nice to see you so if you want to come up and just say a few words uh we welcome you here thank you mayor i was uh hugging uh one of my best friends for many years we
worked together me in the Miami uh city hall and she in County Hall Sally Haymon uh it's a blessing for you to have her for so many years and now you have a very good commissioner uh Miking
Steinberg uh thank you so much for the invite uh as you know in January 7th there was a huge change in the governance of Miami Day County five offices that were under the umbrella of
Miami Day County government uh became independent uh as you mentioned Rosie Cordero the sheriff uh the tax collector supervisor of election the the clerk of the county court and controller and the
property appraisal office this office is important because what we do is that we value the properties but we also are the custodians of of all the deeds of all the plats so we need your help and your
residents uh come to us for help so we have decided to go to the cities to the municipalities to bring our uh magnificent staff so we can help uh them in several issue so you have just
uh an idea i know that uh this is a very young municipality but it's it's a integral part of Miami Day County Sony Beach we have 800,000
9,525 housing units in Miami Day County of those we have 400,000 uh with uh uh homestead exemption and in Sunny Isle Beach according to our
records we have 19,138 housing units and what we want to do is to offer uh the residents of Sunny Isles uh the possibility of uh getting
different uh relief from property taxes in terms of the different exemptions that we have we have of course uh the homestead regular homestead exemption we have like 400,000 sir I'm just going to
interrupt you for a moment because you have a lot of really important information that I think deserves to be heard um but we didn't invite the public here and I I know that you're doing some uh something with other cities in Aventura so we want to be able to schedule something that is allows you
the absolutely you know the time that you need because this is such an important topic um and I want to make sure that our residents that we're not expecting to to hear you today um know that they can you know so I think that is Do you have staff here i'm sorry do
you have staff here yes yes yes okay so I just want to make sure that they schedule something with the um the manager's office because I I don't believe that he he was aware so No but please go ahead i just want to make sure that you don't get too into the details because our residents need to hear all
of it just to tell you mayor that uh we will bring uh people with knowledge and I guarantee you that a lot of residents uh will benefit from the different section so I thank you very much we'll be back I think in sometime in May and
uh thank you uh for your beautiful city yes thank you and I want to make sure that you're a part of our resource fairs that we do but also that you have something specific for you as well because this is going to become very important thank you very much thank you thank you for coming Mr regalado thank
you okay next item raio next item is a proclamation for Child Abuse Prevention Month so um this is my item as well i'm going to read it u the proclamation into the record but I just wanted to make a few comments about this um this is something
that I um am very passionate about uh I think we all that have children are probably passionate about an entire community is passionate about in in Miami Day County annually there's something like uh almost 19,000 reports of uh children being mistreated um I
myself and is a guardian at Lightm and I believe Commissioner Viscara is is as well um normally I'm very uh proud to present proclamations foster parent by the way right thank you uh but this is something
that I I wish we didn't have to do every every year um this is something that happens everywhere in communities that are rich poor black white Russian Spanish whatever uh this is something that happens throughout the the the world and this little proclamation just
reminds us that uh it we all need to be more um involved in the lives of all children not just our children so I'm going to read the proclamation whereas children are our nation's most vulnerable members as well as our nation's most valuable resources helping
to shape our future and whereas positive childhood experiences like loving caregivers and safe stable and nurturing relationships can help mitigate trauma and the negative impact of adverse childhood experiences to promote the social emotional and de developmental
well-being of children whereas children childhood trauma can have long-term psychological emotional and physical effects throughout an individual's lifetime and impact future generations of their family and whereas childhood trauma including abuse and neglect is a serious problem affecting every
community in the US and finding solutions requires input and action from everyone and whereas children who live in families with access to concrete economic and social supports are less likely to experience abuse and neglect and whereas prevention is possible because of the partnerships created
between families prevention advocates childhood welfare professionals faith-based organizations and local state and national governments especially law enforcement agencies and whereas we acknowledge that in order to solve the public health issue of abuse and neglect we must work together to change hearts and minds through
storytelling sharing center the needs of the families break down biases and barriers and inspire action through expected and unexpected partners in prevention and whereas we are committed to advancing equitable responsive and effective systems that ensure all children and families are healthy and
thriving and whereas we recognize the need to prioritize kids and invest in more prevention initiatives like home visiting and family strengthening policies economic supports and community- based child abuse prevention programs at the national state and local levels now therefore do I Larissa as
mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunalis Beach Florida hereby proclaim the month of April 2025 as National Childhood Abuse Prevention Month in the city of Sunals Beach i just want to add that uh I think all police departments are exceptional i
think that ours is the most exceptional and how involved they are in um in helping to prevent child abuse and and how closely they work with the families and and our staff as well i know gives um a lot of training to see the signs of child abuse so thank you
next item next item is 2G proclamation for autism acceptance month hi is uh is Dr durachev here yet can we push this one a little bit sure because the I'm presenting it to Oh yeah
absolutely absolutely stuck in some lane closures okay so the next one is to H building safety month mr building official uh good afternoon mayor vice mayor and commissioners uh we would like to thank you for your acknowledgement of building
safety month this will truly allow our department to reach out to the community and educate them on not only what we do in the building department but in which ways we can help them ensure building safety in the community let me just interrupt you for a moment uh Mr regalado I before you leave can we take a picture with you so if we could have
him finish and then we'll please I know the traffic is bad but give us another minute i'll be brief yes okay so each week in the month of May we will engage with other departments to reach out to the community about topics such as building safety how it impacts our lives of where we work and play we want to
create a plan of building support and safety programs in our homes and community we also help to uh be prepared for natural disasters such as weather flooding fires and hurricanes we will also reach out to the community having a building safety professional speak to
the residents about the rewarding careers and tips on how safely they can manage emergencies that can occur in the homes we also would like to reach out to the youth to discuss how they are the future of the city and what they can do to be part of the global effort to promote health safety and welfare in the
community and beyond great thank you are we going to do we have the proclamation let's get down and take a picture and then we'll take a picture with Thank you thank you everyone all right next item please so I legislative update by Commissioner
Viscar okay that's me uh okay so good news and bad news the uh committees stop meeting after day 50 and day 50 is sometime next week so if you
were if your stuff is not moving uh it's probably not going to get done but if uh if we don't like it then that's good news uh okay so to go through also I'd like to remind everyone we have uh our uh web page where we're tracking the
things that we're doing this is the first year that we do that and it'll stay there forever and as we build our legislative advocacy it'll it'll be there uh and then at the end of the session we'll we'll update it with everything um but we're updating it as we go so the first
uh bill that we've been following is the uh suits against the government um it is moving in in the house uh but not the senate so again that's good news because if it's not moving in one side it's unlikely
that it'll progress but stranger things have happened and it's not over till it's over so there were edits to it amendments i call them edits but they're amendments so um it used they started with something ridiculous like 10 times more than what than what it used to be
uh so now they become more reasonable now it's just more than double for for the per person so they went from 200 to 500 and then more than triple for the per incident so they went from 300 to 1 million those are still unreasonable
numbers if you if you were to make adjustments for the CPI but that's the strategy right they throw out these insane things and then they give you less insane things and we're supposed to think it's okay but hopefully it it won't go anywhere uh the other thing
that that's problematic about it is that um this would allow you to settle in excess of the caps so they're telling you a million but it allows you to settle in excess of a million so then you really don't have limits uh so it's a problem for us because that would
increase our our insurance rates and make and make us make it more a more ligious situation the coastal resilience as we expected is doing very well uh it it passed all its committees in the Senate it passed all its committees in the House and it's expected to
pass uh the uh local business tax that's the one that I didn't present it but we sent a letter and it was one of the things that that I was um putting in in legislator's hands when we were in Tallahassee um the House bill has passed
two of the three committees and the Senate bill has not been heard so again where it's not moving in one chamber that's good news if you don't like it so that's good news for this one uh this would limit the amount of revenue uh local government may receive from local business taxes so it's definitely a home
rule issue um the cardiac emergencies is one that I that I'm going to be presenting this evening uh for your consideration um this one is to um to allow schools it would it would require school districts
to provide basic first aid training including CPR once during middle school and once during high school and to have the proper equipment for uh cardiac incidents in children uh which are much more common than I realized um this one
also good news it it it moved faster than than um than I thought it would so it passed three out of three in the Senate and it just passed its third committee today in the House so it's expected to pass we uh I reached out to the sponsors and they
they they sent us a letter and they say that you know we truly appreciate your support in prioritizing the safety of our students not only in Sunny Al Beach but throughout the state of Florida and your commitment to ensuring that schools are equipped with the necessary tools and emergency plans to protect lives
during cardiac incidents is commendable so they're thanking us in advance for your vote today at six um okay the other one that I'm going to bring up is uh Senate Bill 918 which is uh one that loosens uh child labor laws i you I
usually pair the autism uh proclamation with the child abuse proclamation because those things are usually related when it's not diagnosed so I'll remind you of that when we talk about the labor law um bill later tonight uh it it makes it
allows minors it makes changes they're different but the um the big the big one that I is that it removes the limitations on working hours for minors 16 and 17 years of age under the bill those minors are no longer restricted from working at night or for more than
than eight hours a day when school is scheduled the next day those minors may also work more than 30 hours a week when school is in session and for more than eight hours a day without a 30 minute break i mean that's explicitly stated like you don't need a break if you're 16 or 17 and working the midnight shift and
expected to do well in chemistry at 7:20 um and also it removes all employment restrictions uh in some of the Florida statute with minors 14 and 15 years of age so again this may not be an issue for our families but if you're in a vulnerable
population um this can be uh this exposes foster kids for example you know we assume that children have have caring parents but we wouldn't need a a uh
child abuse proclamation if that were always the case right so um I'm a hard no on that one so I'll ask you to support it later and the immigration uh SB2C that was uh
presented that became a law i couldn't confirm that the last time it is law and I'll I'll be bringing something to your attention later about the certified recovery residencies it's a preeemption issue i'm still looking into it but basically um it would it would allow um
the certified recovery residencies which I don't know if I'm fairly characterizing them as halfway home they're like when you're recovering from from u addiction and the like and they're doing away with zoning and yeah it's it's so
I'll I'll Yeah so we we're going to want to oppose that but I'll I'll bring it in more detail um I'll bring you more detail later but I would like to get your consensus once I really get a grip on it because it just came to my attention a couple of days ago uh if if
it would be okay um to to send a letter and not do the proclam or like a resolution next month because the session will be over next month uh it it's been moving it's been moving it's it's passed two uh two committees on each side yeah that's great so if you
don't once you get more information if you can send it to us i don't think you have any sort of Yeah I can push back from anybody it's um it's Senate Bill 954 and uh it uh it says uh no local ordinance may prohibit or regulate
recovery residences in a multifamily structure establishment of recovery residences in all districts zone multif family residential must be permitted without zoning or land use change uh and it permits structures originally built and permitted for multif family use to
be used as certified recovery residences uh and but it can't be like pieces so it's not like they can use apartments but if there's a building uh that that they can use the whole building and and uh even if it has an HOA they can use the whole building but they can't just
use portions of a building like but they could use a duplex right i I and those are the details I don't have does the duplex apply is it a residential area i don't have those details i think it's a hard no probably it's a hard no no no no i know but just
so it's a home rule people realize the issue yeah okay so do we have the green light to to write a letter if I believe you have consensus thank you yes thank you um and I think that's it for my for my
um Yeah and the vaping the Sorry Jay i know it didn't move anywhere okay um and I think that's it um so keep your fingers crossed day 50 is April 23 after that things are not likely to move i
just I I want to uh you know uh commend you on on staying on top of all of this and I appreciate it i think that um every year we've gotten better and better um at this and it just really helps the residents understand how much of what happens and what we can do and
what we can't do actually happens in Tallahassee very very quickly very quickly so yes thank you for without consideration for cities like ours no on on on the contrary it's it's by design it's it's to put the burden on us and so
they can have it a little easier but okay um thank you that's it for my legislative update so okay so we're put we're waiting for your item uh I think Dr derer is here wonderful okay so we're going back to
then to G to G to G then okay so this is April is autism acceptance month um I I think I brought this every year uh I I am um I started my
professional career as a special education teacher i I actually learned a lot um from from they taught me a lot i I can tell you that uh and so I've always had a a a soft spot for um for autistic
children and a few years ago maybe 2016 2017 I attended a Autism Day World Autism Day in the United Nations and um I never thought about it because I always think about children and I know
it sounds silly but I I never considered the autism children autistic children become autistic adults and how that um how the older siblings or just siblings in general often play such an important
role in in the continued success of that autistic uh sibling uh even as adults and what that means for employment and and um and their uh personal success it was very um it's really it was really eye openening because I never thought
about we we think about their education and their needs and their services and I never thought what happens when they're 20 or 30 or 40 um and as a result of that I I then um did my research and I
and I invited um the card program and uh Dr dr durer will will be able to to talk to us about that um so why don't you um tell us about CARD they actually trained us uh some years ago and then we'll read the proclamation and take the picture
wonderful hello good afternoon everybody thank you for being patient on my journey here it took me a long time to get here um thank you Mayor Vice Mayor uh of course Commissioner Viscara and the rest of the commission for having us here today card is really a unique
program i'm not sure if you all know about us we are funded directly through the state of Florida um through the Department of Education we are a discretionary project um aimed at supporting um DOE and schools and
families in the state but our mission um even though we are funded through the department of education is a lifespan program so we serve earliest diagnosis well before children are in school um and our oldest clients are in their 80s
at this point in fact um to Commissioner Viscara's point 70% of our clients are aged 12 and older and so we we do see um the need across the lifespan to provide supports we are lucky we get to provide
these supports at no charge to families through our funding and other foundation grants that we have we um take a very hands-on approach when families come to CARD for the first time um they may be grappling with a brand new diagnosis and
we support them by basically handholding them through that journey we are really their lifeline in the process as they transition from one stage of life to the next we collaborate with the schools we collaborate with private practitioners
speech pathologists neurologists other medical professionals um we basically collaborate with anybody who touches the life of anybody with autism so we have a very big large um and growing autism friendly initiative that we have and the
goal of that is to really fe make people with autism autistic individuals and their families um feel accepted valued and comfortable no matter where they go in the community we've partnered uh extensively with Miami date county
libraries parks and recreation um and police and we've partnered with municipalities as well like Sunny Isles Beach so um thank you for having us here today and um we are always very um
honored when municipalities partner with us um for the betterment of our clients thank you thank you do you want to read the proclamation read the proclamation so don't go far all right uh whereas autism spectrum disorder ASD is a developmental
disability that can cause significant social communication and behavioral challenges and whereas autism is defined by a certain set of behaviors and is a spectrum condition that affects people differently and to varying degrees and whereas diagnosis of ASD now includes
several conditions that were previously diagnosed separately such as autistic disorder pervasive developmental disorder and Asperger syndrome and where approximately one in 36 children have been identified with ASD in the United States and an estimated 61.8 million
individuals worldwide making it one of the fastest growing developmental disorders in the world and whereas individuals with ASD have unique abilities talents and perspectives that enrich our communities workplaces and society as a whole whereas individuals with ASD face significant barriers to
accessing appropriate education health care employment and other essential services and more work needs to be done to address these disparities whereas while there is currently no known single cause of ASD early diagnosis can help a person receive support and services
needed which can lead to a quality of life filled with opportunity whereas during the month of April we as a city pledged to promote autism awareness acceptance and inclusion for all and will strive to ensure that each person with ASD is provided an opportunity to
achieve the highest possible quality of life now therefore does the city of uh does the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach Florida hereby proclaim the month of April 2025 as autism acceptance month in the city of Sun Beach wonderful wow really really lovely
proclamation thank you so much you can you can thank the city clerk he's he does a good job beautiful words um and words to live by i will stay for a few minutes we have other frames
okay all right we're now into discussion items 3a is a discussion regarding the revised 2025 holiday lights proposal carlin you're going to tell everybody how much has been done before we got here right yes ma'am i just the the
history behind all of this this is a very serious topic and I'm serious i'm not Honorable mayor vice mayor commission city manager's office um we're back again for round two um the city height uh holiday lights contract
21217688 with lighter up expires on July 31st 2025 with one final one-year renewal remaining city staff and the contractor LighterUp LLC took the commission's feedback from last month from last month's workshop and put together a revised proposal for
discussion once discussed at this workshop it will be presented as a resolution for approval at tonight's commission meeting um to summarize our discussion from the first time our original proposal that we brought last month and then what we're
proposing now after taking your feedback um 2024 year total price for our 2024 holiday lights season was $169,80 um the 2025 original proposal is what we which we proposed last month was
$221,580 and that included the following additions from um there were additions from the year previously that was the addition of the large interactive willow tree as the centerpiece at Gateway Park the addition of snowflakes on the stage at Gateway addition of a large star next
to the manora at Gateway Park addition of additional decor on a large city- owned tree at Heritage additional addition of the wreath snowflakes and lighting on the Gateway pedestrian bridge an additional addition of pole decor and lighting along 172 at North
Bay Road so those were the add-ons from 2024 to our original proposal that we brought back to or brought to you last month um now for tonight or for this afternoon a revised 2025 proposal the total for this proposal is
$279,180 and that includes the following additions that were based on your feedback from last month so everything that I originally mentioned that we brought to you last month that's included in addition to a large tree at Samson Oceanfront Park a large manora at
Samson Oceanfront Park two large stars at Samson Oceanfront Park six additional drreal street pole decor additional drreal decor at Inter Coastal Park replacement of the replacing of the white gift box with a multicolored gift
package at Inter Coastal Park and adding a red gold and silver ornament ornament package so those were the add-ons i have it on the screen if you want me to scroll through so you can see those additions um to this proposal
yeah just yeah we talked about it during the workshop at length but still scroll through so that if anyone's watching they can see it as well so there are certain things that have um this proposal has some options as which your consensus is needed um one in
particular is that the there was a request to add additional green to some of our decor so in multiple spots in the city there's an option now of the palm frrons were wrapped in green instead of white so that is one of those options
that per your feedback will determine which way we will go with this you can see that you have both options available so in particular here this is 174 and Collins Avenue yeah that's one of those additional six drreid pulicores that was
on this proposal not last month and then here is the revised Samson so that includes the tall tree the two um the two stars and the manora as well as the option for the green or the white lights for for the benefit of the people that
are here could you just uh clarify the height and the width of the manora and the tree because I don't think it's well it's not the scale it's not the scale yeah it's it's not the scale right um and I need to pull up the proposal to give you exact measurements of that i
apologize if I remember the tree was 45T 45 40 plus feet and then the drrele or the manora my apologies was eight I think you said our other ones I at Heritage and at Gateway are either 8 foot or 10 foot yeah it was
8 by six I think you said okay okay it's big yes yeah so 172 in columns the additional drrele on the pole decor and this is 163rd which had uh the
drrele on it previously colin if you could Okay so right there that's one in particular where do you want green or white palm frrons in that area if you could just toggle back and forth because that's an example of where the green may
not be ideal right the white yeah the other one anybody else like the white agreed yeah I agree with the white okay and there's your front of stage at Gateway
there's additional and Colin if you could go back i'm sorry so that's where the red was added also at Gateway if you see in the trees the red wasn't there in your previous proposal okay and then this is the additional multicolored package and Drrele at Inter
Coastal Park and then there's the green or white option at the north end of the city and then here is 172 going towards North Bay Road which was an addition right here as well and then here is your all your
Drrele pulore the additional six at six entry points into the neighborhoods of the community of the city and then that's the p the core and those would be all the locations of all of the p the core for the drals
so during the the workshop we um some of us expressed some concern about the additional price i um let the commission um they want to share or ask additional questions clarify for let's just do it this way
how much more um are the additional drreidles so give us again the price last month versus last year versus last month and then last month versus now and then um
what and then how much are the additional six cradles can you give me that or no yes I can give you all that yes ma'am so last year final total was $169,80 last month's proposal was
$221,580 which was an increase of $52,500 as proposed in this proposal today um which included an additional six straidles for a total of 14 pole decorreles that total amount was $279,180
which was an increase of 57,600 from what we proposed last month and then the increase from 2024 to today was 110,100 so the drreidles were the
57,000 but how about the tree the additional trees it's all included that was that was all in this all part of this additional I think what you were there there was the the extra extra right was like $62,000 that's not part
of this right it's just the added six drreidles and everything else is what cost it to go from 221 to 279 right yes ma'am and the extra extra is not here because in the workshop yeah okay all right anyone
no Okay so I think you do you have everything you need from us yes ma'am okay i have a question of course other than at gateway where we all said that the the green wasn't working are the palm frrons just going to be green or are we going to mix it up or how does
that work i like them better green i think they look nicer yes i mean again it's it's at the will of the commission if if you guys decide that you prefer the green everywhere else in the city um our vendor is prepared to go either way that's why we proposed both today um I knew the the one place we did have the
question about was at Gateway because it doesn't match the theme of Gateway but everywhere else he was even in agreeance that he thought it worked and I and I agree with his assessment yeah I like the green yeah so green everywhere except Gateway yes yes okay absolutely good
okay okay thank you my pleasure thank you are we going to be able to share this online on our website it is on the website it's part of the agenda packet no I mean not just for the agenda but in general if people want to see sure we
could do that if you'd like a big topic of conversations okay we could put it under we could put it as an advocacy item i I think that actually makes sense okay all right next item 3b discussion
regarding Newport Sandbar renovations mayor vice mayor commission um as the owner of the structure of the restaurant if there's any changes to be made it needs to be approved by this body and we
have the Horowitz family here and their architect to go through what it is that they would like to do to get your approval hopefully at tonight's meeting wonderful thank you everyone hi uh honorable mayor vice
mayor commissioners Mr manager city staff uh thank you for having us here today uh I'm Eddie Herurowitz representing Pure Restaurant Associates P Hospitality and the Newport Hotel soon to be the Sunny uh I'm here to present and discuss uh the renovation of the
restaurant at the Newport Beer i'm going to try to use this correctly okay perfect so Malcolm Bird principal uh of award-winning architecture firm EOA uh has a great presentation today uh which many of you have seen in some way shape or form uh but I just wanted to kind of
set the stage and discuss what we're hoping to do and uh you know give you some background before Malcolm begins so all right the history um I'm going to run through like a hundred years and 100 seconds quickly i'm sure most of you know this but thought I'd set the stage
okay so 1930s the pier was actually the first structure in what's now Sunny Isles Beach it's always kind of been a gathering place for the community 1980s uh Newport Beachside restored the pier after a hurricane and entered into a lease with the state of Florida then
2005 almost 20 years later uh the pier was severely damaged uh by hurricane hurricane Wilma and then several years after that uh the Newport and Sunny Alles Beach entered into a public private partnership to rebuild the pier the Newport transferred the lease to the city and contributed $2 million towards
its reconstruction and the new pier was engineered with enhanced structural integrity to withstand future storm future storm damage securing its place as a lasting community landmark for generations to come 2013 the newly constructed pier
reopens 2013 to 2023 a restaurant called Beach Bar was operated by a third-party tenant 2023 to present uh following Beach Bar's closure we opened Sandbar as a temporary stop gap to continue offering a restaurant amenity to the community and to keep many people
employed all right so all along the way we've been carefully planning what the next chapter uh of the pier looks like and as many of you know the Newport is undergoing a complete transformation transformation um into a concept called the Sunny uh and we're prepare as we're
preparing to open the Sunny uh we see the pier as an essential extension of our long-term vision uh and an opportunity to invest in a space that holds deep meaning to the community and elevate it for the future so as we've discussed in the past we feel the Pier deserves an incredible concept uh that
will serve the community today and stand the test of time so we were um we you know as we kind of were looking into the next step we the next chapter we distilled our priority into really three main categories one was to uh you know focus on creating a
casual and approachable atmosphere two was to uh make made sure that we ensure the concept was built uh for the community first and foremost and then uh thirdly we wanted to make sure we were setting and maintaining operational standards that will lead to an elevated yet authentic execution
so after an exhaustive search we found an incredible husband wife culinary team uh that align with our priorities in every single regard first and foremost they're great people uh and have ties to the Sunny Alles Beach community secondly they're Michelin star chefs and operators that have approach that
approach restaurants from a community first mindset uh they want to lean into what the pier is their vision is to create a elevated Florida fish shack um but with Beach Bites a strong culinary identity uh and incredible service and then lastly they obsess over hospitality
and service and want to create a warm and inviting environment that's executed with excellence in every single way uh they're the perfect duo for the pier and I think uh they're going to create a concept that Sunny Isles Beach is currently missing uh but deserves all
right so on to the the fun stuff the renovation um while the subject of today's meeting is really the restaurant space uh EOA approached this design kind of holistically from a multi-phase master plan approach um and with that I'll let Malcolm kind of take it from
here and walk you through the presentation but I'm happy to answer any questions or um kind of expand at the end if you you'd like thank you perfect thank you good afternoon hello i think you kind of gave a pretty good intro so I'm not sure I have too much to say but uh Malcolm
Berg president design director of EOA uh architecture interior design firm out of Coral Gables Florida so let me see uh I'm doing this right okay um really heartwarming to see how many humanoriented
uh comments you made earlier on i mean it's it's it really is and this is going a little bit off script uh but really really quite heartwarming and one of the things that we talked about always at the Sunonni is what is our true intention and our intention is not just to design something not to design a
garden or or a lobby or a guest room uh but very much a very holistic experience from a master planning standpoint really big big picture taking it all the way down to the minutia um and part of that big picture is in fact the pier uh what happens with the pier how we uh how we
address the pier and the hotel and the grounds with the community how we bring the community into the property and make them feel like they're truly part of the uh of the family so looking at the um pier itself location we all know it very very well
access this kind of I think you've all had access to the material so you see access circulation paths of travel pedestrian as well as vehicular um location of the pier itself and and views from aerial uh standpoint looking at the main building and then looking
back at the pier in relation to Sunny Isles and the Newport on the right hand side as we look at the grounds we look at the entry arrival the parking we had some discussions about the parking but I think a lot of that is is pretty fixed
in in in place as we see it today access towards uh the uh the the waterfront itself you can see the bathrooms on the left hand side walking past them and then the access through the bathrooms up towards the restaurant itself as we start looking at the restaurant you start to
see a little bit of clutter on the outside that's something we really want to start addressing what is that sense of arrival for pedestrians coming from the beach and from the uh uh uh pedestrian standpoint and vehicular standpoint behind us um so as we walk up to the building what do we see we see
some artifacts we see some doors we see some back of house all that we're looking to to address in the re renovation see the stairs going down to the beach itself one of the things you also see is that everybody arriving to the restaurant whether it be uh a
neighborhood uh individual family member a fisherman uh or a guest to the restaurant we're all going through the same door and all going to the pier through the same walkway on the left hand side as you see that walkway there's some seating and then you see the entrance into the restaurant on the
right hand side and then it gets out of the pier itself where the gates are so going back to circulation this is just a diagram as seen from above we're not going to spend a lot of time on this and now I'm not sure if you can see the plans in detail but we have essentially three different plans uh the
top plan is the existing condition plan and we're showing in that the areas in orange that are actually being either adjusted or demolished by adjusted we're talking about the exterior uh walls and windows and demolish some of the interior uh uh uh partitions uh
furniture bathrooms etc you see the bathrooms are actually on the very far right hand side which is oceanfront uh uh currently we're demolishing them them and actually moving them back towards the uh the entr entrance and arrival all the back of house is actually being
pushed into that entrance in order to create a much better access and much better views uh towards the ocean so the proposed plan which is phase one which is a center plan shows the entire east end of the building opened up so it's a
wraparound window that gives diners the ability to see the ocean from all sides whereas before we had the bathrooms on the south side of the building in uh phase two which is a lower plan we start to see a change in
that we're adding a new pedestrian walkway or looking to add a new pedestrian walkway which is can lever on the south side of the building and that would allow uh fishermen to bypass a restaurant without having to go through the the dining areas this plan shows the overall site on the
left hand side you see the restaurant uh the viewing terrace in the center and then on the far right hand side we start to see uh the shading devices and then far far right the actual fishing areas so in looking at the uh concept we
really thought about how we tackle everything for the community uh who we wanted to bring to the uh to the um to the pier for fishermen as well and for the uh restaurant guests so this starts to show the rendering of the uh
restaurant as we see it uh these are the renovations you see uh the the roof is being redone uh the facade is being redone you see on the right hand side the sense of arrival is is very reductive and cleaned up uh the door to the entrance is moved down a little bit more and then you see the bar directly
next to the entrance door so looking into the shading devices that are a little bit beyond and we can stop here for any questions if you have or I can move right into the next phase okay so the shading devices we talked about as an opportunity to bring guests
and residents into the pier itself which is currently a little bit underutilized by uh the neighborhood so we talked about dapple shade dappel light the ocean waves and where the sun is actually coming from which is always from the south side so we talked about providing a screen of some sort a
sculptural screen that provide shading onto the terrace at all times of the day presence for the uh for the um shading device and how that becomes articulated as a beautiful wave emanating from the south side uh sort of um floating over
the uh the pier to cast shadow over the entire pier and that's basically the look from an aerial looking down onto the uh onto the pier itself this shows the uh the walkway on the south side as
well has a very symmetrical composition and that's about it question i like it when are you going to start quite simple
i I I have a comment yeah and and and thank you for coming we met before so going back to the shade devices so I I remember we had that discussion about you know kind of blocking the view of the ocean so you know if you're looking at shading device you you don't need to
cover like you don't have to have it going up you know vertically i think that if you put something horizontally you still have shade so if you could kind of look into that I would appreciate that because to to to produce shade you don't need it to have in like
the way you have it right now i mean it looks beautiful don't get me wrong but you're around the area you cannot really appreciate the ocean so that's my comment mhm but show us that again because I was thinking the same thing but then I realized in the other picture that you could go around it's not
blocking you do you have anything i think that's no this one actually emanates from the full south side of the pier now we can talk about different levels of paracity i mean it can be way more open at the lower level and more dense as it comes up uh but it does literally emanate from the south uh
physical structure of the pier comes over and wraps now remember the sun sometimes is very low so when it rises it's low and as it as it goes up it's a little bit higher and then comes back down on the west side so for uh early mornings you would have shadow midday you would have shadow and evening you
would have shadow that's the idea for it to come a little bit lower and if I may just add to that um when we were looking at the the shade that was going to be provided by the other design that you all had approved which was above only not on the side the shade it was
producing was actually going to be in the water the people under weren't going to get much the sun moves yeah exactly so really think about when this would be used when runners go out in the morning when strollers go out in the morning when fishermanmen come out if you need some shade in the morning or in the evening especially in the later
afternoon as the sun starts to wrap down it's still blasting hot but it gets a little bit lower before it hits uh uh the horizon it's nice to have something a little bit lower now again degrees of paracity we can definitely kind of clean it up and allow for more visibility at the lower level and remember this is
also very intermittent it's not it's not consistent so there's only a small portion of it that does this yeah I saw that so let me go back for a second uh so when we're looking at this right here everything in blue and everything in yellow on the left hand side completely
transparent to the south side so where you're dining where you're walking it's everything's fine the only area we're talking about is this area in orange where you have the seating areas so you know benches planters etc where you want to sit down and you want to be a little bit shielded either from the wind or
from the sun it's a moment of it's a moment of of refuge of respit of of relaxation and then beyond that everything on the right in white is totally open so it's really allowing for a moment of respit in this regard I believe that an overhead canopy would
not uh address the issue well it depends you could always tilt it a little bit who knows i mean my issue is that you don't want to block also the the view of the ocean too much so you know what we can do is we can do some shading studies for you that kind of show what it does
in in views as well because to your point if we go too high then the the light will go right through you'll get kind of blasted yeah understood yeah but yeah especially if you have little kids that are short and that's that's really it yeah if it if it starts too high the
the shadow just becomes too low you also lose the the the wave effect then the sculptural aspect of it right then we're back to where we were like 10 years ago when it was just going to be like Right right yeah okay um and then dependent
upon the design you could still see through it you can still see through it you know sometimes when you see something static it feels like you can't see through it as you walk through it your eyes adjust and it becomes very cinematic so it there's a bit of a hyper reveal but not too too much now if we need to increase paracity at the lower
level to your point we can certainly do that especially in certain areas in areas where the bench might be we might keep it a little bit denser so this it's going to be very it's a very organic structure so it allows for a lot of leeway great commissioner yeah everything about the project I think is amazing uh things that you didn't
present but I see before like the other entrance the new bathrooms the parking everything I think we needed the only thing I don't like I I I been very consistent with is the shade because I think there is no expectation when you
go to appear to have a shaded shaded area so that's the only part that I'm is a hard cell for me and also anyway that will have to come to the commission because if I'm not mistaken we need to approve it and I think we're paying part of it if I'm or at least that was in the
past so anyways a discussion that we're going to have in the future when a final decision is made uh but like I I've been very consistent and I do actually go to the pier a lot with my son and there is zero expectation of a shared area on my
part and the people that I know that they frequent the the pier another thing is that knowing how the area we are hurricanes and all of that i know they are going to do the study and the wind studies to prevent still I just can't
imagine what will happen with the few first storms that we have that they are really heavy other than that I I think it's an amazing project and I can look I can't wait to see it happen okay me too so as to this the the shading devices remember this was really a response to the fact that there were other shading
devices being proposed so we said if there's something going there we'd rather have something that actually cast shade on the pier not on the water and the way it is right now my son will climb that in a second he sinks i don't want to see that happening no it looks beautiful
ju just going back to the shade devices i I don't remember exactly I have a vague idea of what they look like but you know just talking out loud when you go to a beach you take your umbrella if the sun starts moving obviously you know the shade's all the way there but you
know with that umbrella you could tilt it so then that you know helps you with the shade you still bring back the shade to to where you are sitting um so I'm I'm just talking out loud you know something like that where obviously is
not going from the ground up but some you might have something where it kind of tilts a little bit where it does address the issue of the sun moving and the shape moving with you know the the the movement of the sun so I don't know
if that's possible but I just wanted to put it out there yeah no I love the idea that's very very kinetic i mean every anything kinetic anything movable like that is a little bit more technically challenging everything is doable uh but a little bit more uh technically challenging what this does is because
it's on the south side no matter where the sun is coming from you will always have shade um as it as it wraps around yeah yeah I understand i mean I my my apartment oversees this the south so I I Yeah I can relate yeah yeah yeah and and
again the shading device is really not particularly relevant to the restaurant itself it's just in response to the fact that there was something previously proposed that we'd like to make sure is actually functional right i think this is a much um more viable and more beautiful option so if I
could just kind of jump on on that point i think um there are four different phases to this project today we're here to talk about really the restaurant space right i wanted to show everyone kind of what the master plan was so just kind of let me forward um oh actually if
everyone wants to if this can work we found a video online yesterday in the Wolson archives that shows the pier back in the pier back in the 50s I think
[Music] [Applause] so thought that was a a fun find um incredible it's out there and how much history it has so okay next steps um I
guess if for the restaurant portion if the uh design is agreeable and the city is on board then there is um I think at tonight's commission meeting there's a resolution uh that will be proposed or hopefully I guess there is a resolution
it is only for your approval of the redesign of the restaurant space okay nothing else um and then I guess as it relates to the can levered walkway uh if everyone here in the commission is is kind of agreeable to that as well uh I guess the city has to apply to with the
state to kind of move forward with actually effectuating that uh so I think I'll look to city staff to direct on next steps but I just wanted to call that out um and then for the peer improvements themselves I think it sounds like there's some ideation that we still need to work on and some design
changes so um you know maybe Malcolm and and and all of us could get together um you know one-on-one or as a workshop whatever again I look to the to the city staff to to direct us on on that um and then as it relates to Pier Park I think we need to continue to work with uh
beach operations and the police and uh fire rescue and ocean rescue to really come up with a solution that works for everyone so more to come on on all that thank you thank you thank you you guys say great job i like it just the way it is thank you thank you everyone if I may mayor before we move on just so we can
get some direction because it is budget time we did budget for something this fiscal year already is everybody in agreement on the canalver walkway because that's we could start that application yes okay i understand thank you
oh I'm sorry understanding that that expense is ours yes okay okay thank you next item next item is 3C discussion regarding library lease mayor vice mayor members of the commission there's two parts to this
discussion the first part is you asked me to speak with the library about the potential of library move to the annex we've had a couple of meetings and discussions with the director and for them that's not a
viable option they indicated that they just spent $750,000 on their space here and that they're looking for a bigger space not a smaller space they did not budget or allocate any funds for this and if
anything like that were to happen they would expect the city to pay for that so that's the first part the second part is what I need to know from you today is if you have interest in continuing
the library services as they are we've had some discussions back and forth with them their current rent is they pay a dollar a year which is common for library spaces they pay their share of expenses
uh for the building uh an aortioned share they would agree to they have requested a long-term lease which I am not a proponent of we've had too many long-term leases here in the past that have put us on the hook for a long time
so they're requesting 10-year lease term but I'm proposing a five-year lease term with some options for renewal They would like the rate and of pay to stay the same they would agree
to fund the cost of a separate entrance which is something that we're interested in so that we can make the annex more secure they will continue with their current extended hours that we had requested a couple of years ago and they
would agree to add more free community programs as deemed appropriate they indicated to us that there's a very the there's an increased demand for programming in their spaces so they're actually looking for library spaces we
also talked with them about their space at the city of Aventura they've owned the space for a long time it was their money they own it they have nothing to do per se with Aventura in terms of their working back and forth they built
it correct they built it yes and so I guess at this point if you would advise me to move forward I would have a lease agreement with the library for your approval for next month okay
well I I want to say that for for me um the library is probably one of the most important um services that we have in the city um I know that they their programming has increased year-over-year
and um if you've ever gone to some of the programming in the first floor meeting room it's it's packed uh I I would love it if they had entire building but I know that's not feasible so I am very very much in support and continuing the the relationship in in
exactly how um you're recommending um it's uh it's really a huge service and it complements our programming so well and I think that people really that don't use the library underestimate how much value it brings to the community um
from you know for all ages um so I I really recommend for people to to go in there at different times to see uh just the kind of people that are in there from you know tutoring to to older people using you know the computers to people just reading and the renovation
is just lovely so I'm a a big proponent of of continuing that relationship as as it is um but I'd like to hear from everyone else vice Mayor yes i mean uh we need a library here if
we do away with the library I think uh the residents will not be happy i would like to see some enhancements like what you mentioned the uh the extended hours perhaps more more programming as well and regarding the
um regarding the entrance where where would that be a separate entrance did they tell you no we've requested it it would be our design we're proposing to put an entrance on the east side of the property so somebody that visited the
library we would put an entrance there with a canopy style opening actually right outside this area here so that instead of people going through the annex they would come around to this side in between the chambers and the library and enter in there okay and we
would also propose opening a space uh in the wall so that they would have access to the bathrooms and that would enable us to control our space a little bit better and theirs as well okay would we be open to perhaps because
obviously we'll have a big lobby there are we going to keep the same area size that we have in the lobby if they have a separate entrance if we can facil because where where I'm going at is that maybe you know we want to make them have more
events or more activities could we perhaps take away some space from our lobby and I I don't know if given a little more space well with a dollar a year I don't know if that's worth it though but yeah well I right now I don't think we're discussing the additional
entrance it's more to to proceed with uh because that we can but I am interested in them perhaps having more uh programs for for the residents yeah definitely okay right all right okay yeah I'm in
agreement the way it is yeah with with with some of the requests you made mhm yeah i I'm I'm in the same boat like if it stays the same I'm fine if we can make it better great um when you set a separate entrance I was thinking about
cars i'm like "How you going to do that?" But you're talking about pedestrians like like how they door and uh Yeah we're talking about a door uh and uh so I was thinking entrance i was thinking traffic um so yeah but if it I guess it would be like facing the fountain i have no sense of direction
it's this way okay so I I like that but it's not a deal breaker or anything like I said if it if but separating the space would be nice just because you I don't need to tell you we end up having a bunch of children running around in the lobby and it'd be nice not to have that
and maybe part of the conversation can be and I don't know if it's possible uh can can we put bathrooms in the library so that we don't have to they can just be like their own thing I don't know I think there's a requirement for the handicap and um I'm just saying if we're
going to have the conversation ask you know but if it but again I'm fine if it stays the way that it is yeah okay commissioner Joseph yes okay so what I'm understanding is in Aventura the county owns the building they pay all the
expenses which are not are a lot more than $1 correct and that's my understanding yes yes okay and um with Sunny Isles I feel like I'm having my arm
twisted when we have this building which we should be using for the city's use and we're giving it away to the county for $1 but it's for our residents you you recognize that yes it's for our
residents and the county the same as they did in Aventura should supply a library somewhere in Sunny Isles but not in our city hall where we need the space
for city hall for our residents i disagree okay but please go ahead i'm not going to interrupt you go ahead may May I add to that um the library in Aventura actually existed before Aventura was incorporated it was county-owned property they
already had a library there it was damaged in a hurricane they rebuilt it bigger better beautiful oh I um so it it had absolutely nothing to do with the city from inception our commission back in 1999 approved a
resolution saying we want to have we're going to build a city hall someday we want to have a library in it and multiple resolutions after that so it was part of the original plan it was part of the original plan yes to have a library in the government center and a
post and a post well if may I go ahead commissioner okay uh we bought the building next to Pelican Park in front of the school we haven't designed it yet uh maybe we can move and have the library there and they
can have a bigger space just in front of the school kids don't have to come here for after care so uh we are not even we are not we don't even have a design so we are not ready to move there yet but
um if I that's where we're do what I would do is to um continue the agreement or the contract for one year and we can renew year per year not 10 years like what they want because it's not about what they want it's about what we own and our conditions and we're paying for
it they're not paying nothing our residents are clearly clear clearly clear clearly getting a the benefit of having a a library uh and we want to continue giving them that uh the facility uh at some point we the library can be our library maybe we don't need a
county um so we can consider to put the library the sunny beach library in that big building that we bought that we are supposed to be designing I don't know if there is a design for it yet uh but we can we have a space to put it there in
front of the school again and facilitate the children to go there after school like we said and like we see every day we have many teachers doing their business here charging the kids uh for tutoring here in our library that we
paying all the expenses for uh so it would be good to consider moving it to that area in front of the school next to Pelican and so I'm okay to uh signing the contract for one year and subsequent
renewals of one year and one year and one year not five or 10 okay i I don't for for me I don't think that they would be in a pos they would want a one-year contract because they they need to plan more than one year out that's not what they want i understand that but this is a this is a huge service to our
community this isn't a for making we're going to continue it right so for me it's they need to have at least a fiveyear i'm feel very strongly you cannot you cannot run a library renegoti let me finish renegotiating every single year and as far as us having our our
cityrun library um I wouldn't even consider something like that the library as is you can borrow uh books laptop I mean it's a huge undertaking to even suggest that we would we would start running our own library uh it would be I I can't even imagine how much money so
that that I'm very much against I'm we run our almost everything including things that we lose a lot of money with which is not part of this conversation but the point is that you are the mayor of Sonia's beach so you are supposed to
be here for the residents of the Sunian Beach not for the county and whatever is that they want if it will benefit our residents and our city and our people and our budget to have a contract for one year like they say they don't want
to move because they make already the investment so I don't think we saying to them we want the contract for one year and we can renew for the next five years how what would they say no when they pointed out they has zero interest of getting out of here because they already
put the investment on it and and that door that they can build we can pay for that door is our building so um I I don't think that is such a good thing that they put $20,000 to put a new entrance and that is a wow investment
why we should give them five years we pay for the door in our building and we give contract in one year and give us our time to make the discussion of what is it that we want in that new building that we bought for what 5 millions 10 millions I don't even 5.5 millions I think something we paid for that
building 5.5 something like that um so um we do have the space we had the time um and they want to continue be here so I don't understand why would not even try to get the contrast to one year at a
time i I don't even say how can they say no when they need us more than we need them okay that's that's your opinion um for even to consider to giving uh the county a $5.5 million and then having us also build it uh is counter to what
you're suggesting in my opinion but I don't want to go back and forth because I'm not the one negotiating the contract mr city Manager can you just clarify um how the negotiations I think I need to clarify something else go ahead oh me or him yeah me okay okay there in our discussions back and forth
our original lease was a 20-year lease um I shared with them that you know we wanted to be strict in our contract negotiations we would not agree to another 20-year lease so their
request was a 10-year lease and so we debated a little bit back and forth i have not presented them anything yet because I wanted to get direction from you my proposal was a five-year lease with some options to renew there's also
we would build in a termination clause if something should change going forward and I just wanted to clarify that for the record yes their lease is a dollar a year but they also pay percentage of the utilities and maintenance of the space
so I don't want you to think that it's just a dollar per year and then in some of our discussions we didn't really discuss the option of them not being here but I think that's an option you need to consider in terms of they don't have to
agree to a lease renewal either an option may be that they do not have a library in Sunny Al Beach because they do have a facility in Aventura and my clarification is that I'm not saying to give them the 5.5 building that we
bought i just saying that we are going to build something there which is probably going to be few stories high and we might consider putting the library there not giving them the building it's just to be part of the facilities that we're going to have in there which is also the expansion of the
aftercare program or whatever is that we call it now okay thank you so so I I had I had actually thought about that you know same same exact thing like library first floor and etc you know and and how it would be a better fit with the school
five years out because that's probably when we're going to be ready or then after the five years if there's something or we have termination clauses we can build that in uh but I don't want to be like I said last time I don't want to be the commission that ran the the the library out of town i think five
years is super reasonable especially we don't you know that by the time something is built it's not going to be less than five years we don't even have a plan yet so I think uh if they're willing to accept the five years you know you went from 20 to five I think that's good if we can have little exit
clauses great um and so they can understand that might be there may be something better in the in the works maybe right or not um but I I don't think we can do better than that so I and I and I really want them to stay and I value what they what they give us um
and keep in mind it's not just space they staff it they It's you know they pay the li the librarians they pay those benefits that you know it's not us just giving they're also giving well it would be the same at another location
what do you mean it would be the same situation at another location not if they're just eliminating a location i did not say that we wanted them eliminated but they may so I um Anyway that's it i'll I'll make a motion to be silly on their voting i'm sorry then uh then I
then to move on i think that Okay vice mayor and then we need to give the the manager yeah so if I were the library operator or any other commercial entity a one-year lease wouldn't give me too much let's say uh guarantees to be
honest with you i mean when you're talking about commercial leases I haven't seen a commercial lease that is for a year um so if I were the library operator I'll be like "Okay something's going on." I wouldn't feel too secure
about it and then my main goal is to have a library here for our residents and enhance those services now with the building we just bought by
the school space that space yeah the land now um that is still years away so we need to operate based on the the information we have at hand not not
based on whatifs so that could happen later and then when that is about to happen we could approach the the library again but yeah I mean a one-year contract a one-year lease
doesn't give me too much confidence if I were the uh library operator may I okay let's just because I think we have we have we have a termination clause then it doesn't matter if it's five years it can be two years but we are not the library
operators we are the commissioners on the ask we have to be working for the benefit of a resident so clearly if I was the library operator I would want the 50 years instead of 20 i will ask for anything instead of $1 I will put zero dollar or one penny you know which
no more pennies anymore so um we are not the library operators we are the resident we represent the residents of Sony Arts so we have to be really always remembering that that's who we are representing so we are not the county and we are not the library we are the
pianist and the resident that pay the taxes in Sonia so maybe not one year maybe two years all right well I look I I appreciate your passion and I um but I I take uh uh may I we once again I believe that it's unfair to say that we are not uh looking out for the residents
in fact what what what what we are all saying is that that's exactly who we're thinking about so Vice Mayor you go and then I think So my point is my point is that we want to make sure that the library stays here and if we go back to
them and say oh no you know what we only want it for a year and then voila the library says you know thank you but no thank you your library is going to be in Aventura now and what are our residents going to say they already say they're not going anywhere they're not going to go anywhere they make the investment
here they don't want to go anywhere oh they could go anywhere of course they can but they just say they're not going to well but with a one-year lease you're not giving them a lot of confidence i'm so glad you got to think about the consequences we're going to we're going to move on um Mr city Manager you have
Thank you your direction okay we are at 4:41 so I am suggesting we go to the next item and see how far we go and then potentially move the uh the rest of the discussion items to a later date so uh Mr city Manager please
well the tennis we can't um move to another date because construction is ongoing all right well let's just see where we are because we're going to be running over next one may I May I uh Mayor yes could we could we move up the uh the Sunny
Smart Daycare since we have the uh the owner of the business here um And she's been patiently waiting oh well we have No we have the rabbi too he's got his item is that his next is that the next item continue how about this we'll do the the the
um the Bellista parking and then we'll move and then we'll move that item okay okay perfect yeah yeah okay yeah yeah all right go ahead please where was Okay mayor vice mayor commission um I actually have a visual
that uh Vanessa will put up for us if you are all you're all familiar with Bella Vista Bay Park um the parking lot has a small space to the west which is on the left side of the screen that is green it's just a green open space the
city maintains it and this is a leased parcel through FDOT um to us in exchange for the lease we pay them 40% of our parking revenue um Rabbi Ker after opening um
the Habad adjacent to and the school would like to build a playground in that grassy area and a community garden um they would I believe pay for the buildout of the
playground we would have to subleasase it to them we would have to have insurance we would have to have a lot of legal things that Allan will work on for us um but I needed to know if that was something that before we go too far down
that road is that something that the city commission is interested in pursuing number one number two I just want to make sure that um you understand FDOT's requirement is that it is open to
everyone so if it's open it's open and it's not for the private use of the school so let me just ask um because this isn't ours correct so what happens if they want to take it everything
invested is lost just want to make sure on the record that we say that yes and um as you recall recently FDOT did take back under the um William Layman ramp for some work so it it would if if we
were to do this um Rabbi Ker would have to understand that he is doing this with that jeopardy of losing the investment if that were to happen all right Vice Mayor you looked like you wanted to say something no just wanted for clarity purposes so we're talking about the
grassy area where the water is right correct okay and it would be between the two highways between the part Yes between the two highways and west of the parking lot so between the water and the parking lot right in front of it would be fenced off um but again if it's open
and anybody's in there anybody can be in there who who's managing the community garden it would 100% be So the rabbis group that would be part of our sub lease okay so they have to pay for everything associated with it yes same with the playground if we were to do
this they would maintain the playground as well okay oh i believe in the Rabbi Khal would like to address the commission i know this is a workshop so I would like to make a motion if necessary to allow him to address us and to say a few words i
agree with that i don't want to keep I don't want to keep going with this um I I mean I communicated with Rabbi Ker in advance he understood that he was not right allowed to speak at this at this meeting um if you have any questions
that you would ask him I think I know the answers yeah let's try this way and then if if you get stumped Susan I mean I I can advocate for him i can tell you how passionately he wants this his school is full they need the space
they're currently trying to you know squeeze into the little patio area it's definitely um a need for their for their school so they would no longer be crossing over to Gateway they Okay so they're currently crossing over Gateway
just for the garden um previously they were crossing over to Gateway for you know the actual park area i don't believe they're doing that anymore you do okay can we allow him to It would solve that problem
okay of them walking to Gateway okay yeah and this would be a so this is this would still be a public space it would be a p FDA requires it to be a public space we have Rabbi Keller and I have had extensive conversations with
FDOT trying to find a better way we wanted to bifrocate that area out of our lease and lease it directly to him so that we had no responsibility and he could do whatever he wanted in that space f dot would not allow that because they have this rule that if you can't
access it then they can't lease it so we would have to give up our lease for the parking lot for him to get the green space and then if we were even to do that if we give up the lease they put it out to bid and then anybody could bid on
the space so working it that way if it's if it's um snack time and the school is there using it and and a family comes and or just some guy comes and he just wants to sit there they have to allow
that technically they have to allow that yes okay for fot right okay do we have any um preliminary designs or anything like that yes Rabbi Ker does have a design and I could share that with all of you it may have changed since it is
not in here no I apologize i'm If it doesn't cost us any money it adds to the community and everyone can use it then I'm I'm in I don't have any reservations i'm in support of it it's only going to cost time Allen's time in in drafting this agreement and Rabbi's time to build
it do we pay Allan by that i'm just kidding all right any other Yeah and just a note that obviously um a big factor is what FOD wants so to the extent even on design they may have an opinion on it so we're I don't want to say completely at the mercy but they are
we're the less so they're the lesser so they control a lot of what um requirements will have to be in the lease and it would have to be permitted through FDOT as well as through our building department rabbi Ker has already submitted a preliminary plan to our building department to try to get
some feedback um and so and time is of the essence he would hope to have it built and done and ready for the next school year so that's why it's a discussion item do you know that a playground is allowed or we don't even know that yet yes FDOT has said and
I have it in an email that they will agree to let us do this but they need you know a formal application and a formal um we would have to amend our lease with them to be able to do this because right
now it's green open space do you have a question by saying it'll be open to the public right that is FDOT's requirement the same way that it is right now just like the parking lot anybody can park in the parking lot anyone should be allowed to access that
so any space in that area that is FDOT that's opened not fenced off anybody can go there wait I I I have a question i know you're going to provide us with the with the uh renderings but um most of our parks with the exception I think of Samson close
um at night so would this also close yes we close it at night okay just making Okay it's just that when it's open to one it's open to all right right right but I meant it's not open but we can close it yes okay and does this affect our city docks in any way this would not
affect our docks at all it's completely our docks are on our property this is our least proper property with FDOT okay perfect but there's Go ahead no nothing uh we saw the rendering a few years ago when it
came to us it was very beautiful very green uh oriented so um yeah I would like to do anything we can do to help see this project come to fruition now there's a part two that does require money um the second part of this is so
the bridge on the bottom of that picture um is the eastbound lane there is an area adjacent to our parking lot here but under that bridge um we were using it for staging for our street lighting
project and that area is could be turned into parking i think I put it on here we could have approximately 21 cars and the approximate cost including design is $400,000 um FDOT would be agreeable to
that we've already had our city engineer um in communication with them preliminary designs we've already invested a little bit in in those designs if we were if you are all agreeable to do that we would build out the parking just like Bella Vista Bay
Park it would be metered parking not a physical meter but a pay by phone um charge you know pay to pay to park system and FDA is in for 40% i'm sorry fat is in for 40% they are they don't cover 40% of the expense but they get
40% of the revenue so um given the cost of parking and how it's become quite the commodity there's no way to make more parking there oh um Rabbi Keller had a a beautiful plan that got much more parking but FDOT is adamant that we
could only go so far because of the the cross beams we can't go where it's any lower than 8 foot okay i think more parking is always Yeah more parking you know so so there's a way to
do tandem and then we can make back the money right it'll take you some time but yes sorry push for as much parking as we can to use any space that we have like right now it's an eyesore you know it's very ugly it has mosquitoes and the
mosquitoes season has not even started but I walk around that and it's just like water there it's just like terrible so any space that we can get to make a parking or green area please do it and yeah try to fight for more not for less
parking and uh any any way um is super needed in that area can can I ask you do we have any data as far as since Rabbi Ker's um community center was open how much that parking area the existing one is making how much we're making i do not
but we can get that for you yeah I I imagine it's a lot more additionally um right now Rabbi Keller is renting Bella Vista to park some vehicles he had it for staging he's continued to keep that lease going um and using it for parking
which we are very soon to take back because we just got our seaw wall permit so our construction's going to start sorry Rabbi our construction's going to start and um Okay we're going to have to terminate that agreement okay i think you have direction thank you so much all
right thank you and then um thank you Rabbi Keller we'll move 3H if there's no um issues yes I'm in agreement yes okay go ahead
okay so the situation is the following now if you um this is in regards to um Sunny Smart Daycare okay i think we all know the space there is the daycare and
the Winston Towers shopping plaza a little plaza right next to to the uh pedestrian bridge uh between the pedestrian bridge and Winston Towers 300 so the issue at hand here and correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm missing any
details uh Susan but it boils down to the following so the the owner of Sunny Daycare you know was able to get the space next door okay and she opened up a
um a place for gymnastics let's say and DCF had approved her uh the department of children's and and families had approved her uh for that correct uh eventually she started to add different
activities to that and as she had told me DCF was informed of this and she was or she had received an exe exemption letter from from DCF um correct or you expect you were
expecting a exemption letter from from from DCF right so basically DCF came to us and I think there was the the I know that there were some conversations between DCF and ourselves where DCF had mentioned to the
property owner that um she had to change her certificate of use or we had to approve a different certificate of use because she had added other activities to to that business correct now the issue is that in 2020 okay this is after
she had opened that side of the business you know which is next next door to the daycare the day the daycare doesn't have any issues that is fine but it's the uh business that she has next door so in 2020 I don't know if you recall this we
changed uh our zoning ordinance where you know as um you know we we In our zoning ordinance we said that we're not going to allow for schools or places of worship to be operating in some
residential areas and that stemmed from the issue of um neighborhood of of Golden um Golden Shores okay and we wanted to avoid that from happening and that included obviously the Winston
Towers that shopping plaza okay so now we're faced with the issue where we either as a commission or as a city we are able to change her certificate of use okay or DCF gives her
the exemption letter um am I correct um I let's I think it's a and I think that may perhaps we could bring uh the property owner wait I'd like to get one second before because we don't normally do that so I don't want to start that could we just get clarification because
I I want to make sure that I have I know we discussed this but if you can just clarify how we got where we are it's a good synopsis the bottom line is you did change the zoning so we cannot issue a
certificate of use which is something she needs to get DCF approval unless the zoning is changed okay so in order or unless she changes her use to a single and gets the exemption letter from DCF those are the two alternatives okay so
either she gets the exemption or we change our entire zoning correct essentially yes is that right Alan yes but the to get the exemption would have to as the deputy city manager said
would have to go to one use would be gymnastics as it used to be I presume yes correct so but I mean that's right now it's not operating as a single use uh business right now from what I understand so I think the solution here
is for us to be able to make an exception and perhaps give her that certificate of use to entail different uh different activities you can't you're you're dealing with a use and a zoning so that would be essentially spot zoning
which is unlawful in Florida understood yeah so you can't make an exception you'd have to change your code we'll have to change the code okay but obviously given the geography of the area I mean we're talking about just one
shopping plaza in 174th Street right you'd still have to change your code because that would be the quintessential uh definition of the definition spot zoning yeah no understood but but I mean I know that there's some concern that if we go ahead
and let's say approve this change in zoning that perhaps people in some of these apartment buildings are going to be able to run businesses out of their apartments or other types of scenarios where obviously we want to or the residents
would like to avoid so but but I have a question uh because this situation happened because we changed the code back in 2020 if correct that she was in compliance so it it wasn't on her making you know it's like this like a perfect
catch 22 like DCF want her son to say something but that something is not there and DCF doesn't want to give her also the the letter so there is like a a loss loss situation for the owner so if
we need to change or do some kind of provision in the code to help um solve the situation again we created when we changed when I say we as a commission I wasn't here back then but when the commission changed the Sony back in 2020
so she should be even grandfathering uh because this is like I said not a situation her making nothing had changed on her part we are the one who changed the rule of engagement wait but let me get clarification when when the zoning change was done in 2020 the business was
not right so they were grandfathered in uh so they the daycare became illegal non-conforming use as well as right next door with the single gymnastics I presume so they were granted when right but any legal non-conforming use once you change that
you you're not allowed to change it legal non-conforming use the same way as the gas station we had that conversation about the gas station years ago as well i don't Commissioner Briscar wanted to say something I believe wait I just want to make sure that we we clarify what was said
what she had in 2020 during that when we made that change was a single use so she did change something since that time so what she was permitted to do that is no longer permitted she's still doing as a
conditional use what she was doing that was permitted back then as a single use she's no longer doing that she's doing something different right so the grandfathering doesn't come into play for that no but here's here's um I remember I remember doing like
those that code conversation and the concern was we didn't want to create we didn't want single family homes becoming places of worship correct or or daycarees or schools uh and so I don't I
think this is an unintended consequence um of of that change because I certainly wasn't thinking about that plaza we were thinking about the So I I don't understand and I made this a conversation for for later i sent an email about it but I just haven't had the time between things to to look into
it uh how does the uh single family home code then I don't understand how our how something that we intended to control single family homes and the the
misuse of that transfers over to uh what's clearly a commercial space and has always been a commercial space zoning is geographical so you're you've got a zoning area so it's included within that area you'd have to redraw maps and do all kinds of things that so
so the planning and zoning director it was the and you know I haven't I don't have it in front of me but uh it was the intention was for the single family homes I I don't mean we may not be able to resolve that here you know but but I
I'd like to to look at that the the legislative intent right was the single family homes and I think this is an unintended um result so so if we can you I mean and we can look at that it's just that um
you'd still have to change your code i understand that but I but I I think that that's a a way to open that door because I don't think this is what it's certainly not what I intended we were looking to protect those homes and I don't even know if it's possible if
there's restrictions around that there may be hundred laws around that i don't know but I this is an unintended outcome yeah I I remember that as well so I think that the question is how do we not and maybe I already know the answer but
how could we tackle this so that this can be solved because that was not the intention and yet we don't do we don't undo what we did meaning that we don't open up a Pandora's box where now that would take I mean again you're going to have to make changes to your code as to
what those changes are we we'd have to get together with the planning and zoning director so Alan we can't ask you to figure out a workaround i mean we can the the problem is is the the laws on zoning are very strict and um find a loophole well that that's
that's not that's not a good thing uh but we you know we we I haven't spoken specifically with the planning and zoning director with regards to any solutions but uh I guess it's something that we can look at but honestly your your district
It's going to be very difficult to just excise that commercial area from the rest of residential because that's quintessential spot zoning and you can't do that well this is an unintended casualty well but again remember she her
her she she she was grandfathered in so it's it's not entirely on us either we're it's a fuzzy this is like a you know it's it's it's a really unfortunate outcome uh so if we can um I don't know just give it some thought if we Yeah I I
agree to give it some thought but um Vice Mayor it's your item you want to finish i recall vividly when we passed that and um it was it started as But it wasn't just Golden Shores it was Atlantic Isle as well no no it was Atlantic is I recall it stem from a uh
you know a place of worship um especially uh Golden Shores i think it was that and then we started adding schools and other let's say businesses that would not be able to operate and the main intent was homes right in the
residential area where we have houses so I think that none of us uh had in mind that little shopping plaza when we passed this uh this um ordinance or or or or zoning uh code
so yeah let's see how we could perhaps um yeah look for a solution look for a solution mhm definitely yeah 100% we need to Yeah okay so Alan Okay see see what you can do asking you
Alan well it's it's we we need more information probably as well so that we uh right from a planning and zoning aspect but um again I mean it it it'll take a code change but it it's it's depending on what that change would be but I'll have to get together with the
planning and zoning director we definitely don't want to undo everything right we don't we don't want to then open the door for homes to become or like you know assisted living facilities or whatever well I think it's something we need to fix in the zoning because obviously it's it's something that we
did not you know th those are unintended consequences yeah that need to be fixed okay all right so did you look at the picture one second so we're good with this Alan yes well we'll take a look at it and
report back thank you all right it's um it's 506 so we have the option to keep going um Yes Commissioner yes okay um next item uh
three what nothing okay 3e this is regarding basketball and tennis okay so 3E is uh hurricane preparedness process i bring this up um because I think that we uh take for granted how
quickly it comes up and uh for me uh personally but I think also for the purpose of the the public I would like to have u a better sense of uh what our policy is what's the process what happens god forbid and you know we're
due unfortunately that we get hit are we you know I've said this for many years are we keeping track of our most vulnerable people i know the PD has in the past but do we know people that are living alone um whether that be in single family homes or in the in the um
uh buildings and especially since we have so many buildings going through the reertification i know that many buildings elevators are not necessarily working the way that they should so um I would just like to see um in advance
what our plan is um and then potentially you know include the commission in conversations as to you know what we hear and see from sort of our the various districts and what can be uh enhanced um you know does the app have
something on there um just a general sense of what what's the plan um I know we have $10 million I believe reserved for that but what else what else does that mean well from the preparedness perspective
you know we have yearly meeting prior to hurricane season with all of our directors our contracts for debris removal and debris monitoring those are the two most important contracts to have in place we have I think we I think it
was last year that we updated those contracts so those contracts are all current and you know staff is prepared as much as we can be we will look more into what you suggested regarding if there's any of our population that needs
additional care and support but from the preparedness perspective we are ready to go i think what what I mean is that and I and I'm not questioning that it's more of how is that being shared with the public and what did they do um when the emergency hits because I know that I
can't remember how many years before if you didn't have like a resident ID you couldn't get back into the city um you know helping people that was yeah helping people understand what they personally should do and I know that the county puts out the little flyer that they get in the mail that everybody
ignores and until you know so what could we do to to to assist with that especially since you know we talked about during the the workshop how the prices of things are going to probably go up um how could we uh execute it in a
way that our residents feel like they know what they need to do as well i think uh something and I don't know maybe we do it I but but um certainly the the property managers should be invited to participate in in
so then they can be the ones because we can't be talking to you know to everybody but um inviting the property managers to to participate in in whatever workshop we're doing um and then getting remember how many how for
how I don't that does it finally exists like the master list that that I've been talking about since forever um because again when when Irma happened um and it's like what number do you have the office well there's nobody in the office
right right and well what about the guardgate not everybody has a guardgate not everybody has a front desk all the buildings are different and I I think we I think one of the interns was working on that over the summer we we h how do we know
um whether to call like if you call Plaza of the Americas you're not nobody's going to be in the office we don't have desks in the lobbies maybe you'll have uh if he's not you know underwater you know you'll have somebody in the in the guardgate so I think that's
um that's something that we should have handy like a list of those contacts and at least um you know constantly updated at least a board member because maybe the security guard's not there either but somebody needs to you know if you have
the sandwiches to deliver right who do you call right so um that part is missing the other thing that I found is and again part that we could give to the property managers for them to really drill this home is nobody's coming if
you call 911 because you didn't evacuate number one evacuate number two understand you're on your own and buildings we we shut down our elevators i mean that's protocol it's like oh but you know what's the you know disabled person on the 10th floor supposed to do
they should have evacuated and maybe we can help them find ways you know but you know but that's exactly what I mean these are these are the issues that I had I had somebody tell me how I can't believe you guys turned off the elevation we're supposed to
we're supposed to and we have so many foreigners who h have no have never experienced a hurricane they really can't appreciate the gravity of it and they don't know about shelters or they don't know right and then I I would even take it a step further and and explore
the possibility of our PD getting access to the buildings the keys or you know some sort of emergency ability to access those buildings um because if there are people stuck in there and we we're the only ones that can get to them how do we
get to them short of breaking down the door i know years ago at a more trusting more trusting time there used to be floor captains so maybe we can speak with the building managers and maybe have them work out in within their buildings a
floor manager system to make sure that the floors are clear anything that anything that invites them to to be part of the conversation I think that we are all in support of i know that they're not necessarily going
to all come but let's just try to make it as easy as possible and like I said before like go to them make it so that we're going to include them in years past we've done a hurricane workshop i think all of you have
attended and we could do that again this year and invite the property managers and review everything that you're discussing now right and and then I also know just I don't want to belabor this because I think it's it's a bigger conversation there's something that has been brought up in years is that the
vulnerable population is supposed to register with 311 but they by definition they don't know that because they're a population that maybe does not know how to do that so how could we facilitate some sort of
additional uh communication or you know like maybe the next resource fair i I don't know but I'd like to just get suggestions from you all we should probably do it before the next resource fair but I'll talk to the media and CCS team and see how we can work on something yeah June will be here before
we know it media does have a whole um you know prehurricane plan where they're getting out the information and we can move that up yeah because I I've had people call me from like New York saying "I need someone to check on my mom and like
is she registered?" No okay anyone else have any no i So talking about the elderly and people with special needs i I know correct me if I'm wrong that we used to do wellness
calls from time to time perhaps we could do we could reinstate that we did that during CO we did that during CO yeah correct while we were shut down during CO it's I mean it's a lot of staff time it's a lot of hours because you make one phone call and it could take an hour
because they want somebody to talk to so correct is there a way where we could perhaps in those times of emergency hire a company that that does that type of stuff i mean is there other options where we don't have our staff tied down
doing that type of of of work we we can look into it i think it's going to be something in the form of you know they need to register for it correct we can do better outreach of going to the condos and trying to get people to register there but if they don't there's
no way for us to know who that is yeah and then I think that residents especially people that are elderly have special needs have some sort of issue they need to heed the evacuation orders i mean that's that's extremely important
so I think that's part of the education maybe we could scare him and show them images of other places people don't evacuate no no no it's incredible it's incredible it really is and then one of my I mean it's always been a concern and I'm always super nervous about this like
the people in the condos and their balconies they just don't put their items inside and I know that legally we cannot do anything if we could it would be great you know because um you know those flying objects are are weapons
basically but is that true we can't do anything about that i mean we had discussed it before i mean if we could do something I think that we can't you can't just but but also if we have these workshops with the the these property managers for the buildings
and we make these residents aware that listen you cannot leave your items outside and they're responsible enough to bring them in we're you're always going to have those that don't bring it in and they'll be great if we could have some sort of ordinance where they know that they're going to be
penalized if they don't put their items inside we have Don't we have something existing that you can't have certain items on balconies yeah I'd have to look enforcement becomes an issue obviously if you're if you're battening down the hatches because a hurricane's coming you don't have code enforcement people
looking out at citing people for stuff on B you just won't be able to enforce it right um and get out the binoculars i'm sorry you got to get out the binoculars and watch the balconies yeah but you have a lot of balconies in the city and uh I mean there obviously if you can
if your neighbor's chair flies into your window he's responsible he or she are responsible for that damage but it's hard to identify where the property comes from we have a drone system now yeah but I I can put their names on everything if Yeah but I've seen where
even when it's just windy things fly off balconies and land on on Collins so um but again I think that goes back to communicating with the buildings and making sure that they don't take those kind of things for granted because I think they're more likely to tell their
residents you have to put it away because we met with the city and they told us to than if they're just doing it on their own i think it just makes it easier for them maybe from us saying listen you better or you know it works both ways we attack it from different angles where the property manager is telling them we
send something out so we're always reminding them okay um All right we keep going yes let's do it yes okay um 3 F um well 3F
and 3G are similar so so we can combine them i for for me this was more of a um request to get another update and I know that that's not the point of this this but it's in general just for us I think that we all of us are are aligned
with wanting to see more enforcement despite the fact that there's been an incredible amount of enforcement but I I think that it's important for us to know the numbers and I know you're not prepared necessarily for this but I'd like to get a sense of how far we've gone um I know that the the school has
almost eliminated all of their green space inside which is fine because that's where the rodents used to be but um they they they can't have enough for for the scooters so it feels like with every scooter that's registered there's
two more scooters to come so for for from for me I don't know what Commissioner Joseph wanted but for me it was more about can we get an update on on what's happening with that and do we need to support that more did we ever get the the school's cooperation for
registering i don't know uh scooters so we have 2008 warnings issued by PD as of this afternoon and 969 registered scooters and as far as the school they will help get the word out but they are not going
to enforce there's nothing that they can do to enforce okay but weren't maybe enforcement was the No no I think it was it was in form information yeah to help us you know put
some pressure on all the I'm sure that not all the scooters in the school are reg right so just to get that like put a help us work with us yeah and and correct me if I'm wrong i think we suggested that we would put a table out there to help them get registered so
that we have tried again couple of outreach a couple of those but it's the kids leaving and the parents are nowhere around and the kids aren't going to register right no I understand with with the with the citations um 2008 I How many of those are actual
violations i I know that there are because I've heard people they're very upset um calling us certain things that we're giving kids tickets but the cops not us how many do you know approximately i
only know of like two that actually tried to challenge the citation through like a special 2008 are actual citations that that no warnings so how many were tickets maybe I'm saying it wrong how many were actual tickets can't issue an
actual ticket well they actually have No they have a couple of tickets yeah people have two uniform traffic citations for no helmets and that was just yesterday no that was in one day that's for helmets no there's more than that because I I know on these
chat groups the the moms are going crazy saying that they've gotten that their kids have gotten tickets they say a lot of things you think that Why would they go What did you want so ju just to clarify so those tickets were issued for no helmet can we issue a ticket a
citation I think the ordinance says yes for not registering Yes the scooter and then the final let's say penalty if they don't comply well we we could even take away the scooter i remember yeah the the uniform citations that deputy same
manager was referencing that's under state statute for how much that was done by and we have our ordinance which mimics in a lot of sense but also adds quite a bit more so you can site somebody for not registering but then you have a
difficulty in knowing who to site if you stop a 9-year-old with a scooter that's not registered what do you do okay so the problem becomes in in and then we're on social in enforcement but I I know that we've had our first cases come to special magistrate so
there have been it was a particular individual and I think there were at least four citations from our ordinance but I don't know for that particular individual but uh I don't know how many total for no for helmet violations so that my point
is that could we incentivize more registrations so could we do another push because it seems somewhat unfair you know you followed the the law you registered and now you get the ticket but the person that didn't gets to you know not get a
citation so if you registered and you didn't wear a helmet we can give that nine-year-old a ticket but if that nine-year-old's scooter is not registered we can't do anything correct no i believe they are actually registered or not if you're not wearing
a helmet and you're under the age of 16 you're getting a UTC okay and they are calling parents and making parents come out to the site and how about if there's two kids on the scooter i don't have any input on that sorry we weren't prepared
okay yeah go ahead go ahead so I had asked um how do we go about following Kiscane and banning these scooters once and for all and the ebikes on the sidewalk so that one's a city attorney
a ban is is a bit more complicated uh let's follow Kiscane how did they Well Kiscane is a different uh scenario they had to go through the county because of camp boulevard which is the counties so the county had to pass an ordinance on scooters and then they went
ahead and did that uh pending hopefully a legislative push to change the but there's nothing on the radar for that um it comes down to enforcement i mean if you want to ban them we can try to do that you can't do
Collins um you can ban them someplace else the problem you you still have the same enforcement issue so if you have the the same nine-year-old riding the scooter down the street you're not supposed to have a scooter what do you do we take away the scooter you're going to take a scooter from a nine-year-old and you have to have due process there's
all kinds of issues you start confiscating scooters from a 9-year-old leave them stranded in the street that's going to be a bad situation and that's what the problem is is enforcement and I can talk to the police chief and in
Kibiske and I know him um but my understanding is they're giving out warnings just like we are so they they have a ban but they're not banned they are banned but again what do you do but they're not but they're still on the streets i don't know i I I was not I was
in Kibiscane not long ago i mean not not recently but I still saw them well that's the point i think that's what the the the attorney is saying that the ban is in place but it's who's going to listen to it and if we have if you're breaking the law then you're actually breaking the law
so is the nineyear-old who didn't register right so is our nine-year-old who didn't register the the the issue is not how do we catch them the question is how can we get the community to buy in we're not we we
tried to try and we have residents getting down frustration Jerry i share your frustration no it's not frustration we're getting we're having residents run down i agree with you by bikes and scooters i'm frustrated by that i haven't gotten hit so I can't tell you
I've gotten hit but I I share your frustration i share the concern of the residents we're not protecting our city like we should be and how and how can we when even if you ban it ban on them and then and then we have the same problem
it's the same problem no because then it's a different degree of breaking the law once it's banned but the outcome is the same you're taking a scooter from the nine-year-old from the 10-year-old it And I mean well the parents have to show I don't like it Jerry i don't I'm
not trying to defend the situation i just think it's we the I think the answer is getting people to buy so then once it's banned and you have a 9-year-old on the scooter that has to go back to the parent because the parent is not taking control of the of the child
okay so the thing is to draw out the parent who's not obeying the law well that that's what we're doing now the the citations we're protecting our residents but so we need to protect our residents i think that you're you're missing the the point that the attorney is saying
that while we would love to just ban things that don't work for us ultimately if if the if we don't have buyin from the community and we have 900 and something scooters registered guarantee we have three times as many people who
are walking on the streets and they can't walk on the sidewalk of course it's it's it's a it's a problem with residents that are afraid to walk on the sidewalk because they're afraid to answer the question of how are you going to enforce it if right now what we're
doing is which I think we're doing a lot how do you how do you stop people from breaking into houses how do I mean that if someone is breaking the law okay you have a law if someone wants to somehow defeat the law they have to pay the
consequences right okay so it goes with anything you You cannot compare 9-year-old on a scooter and someone breaking in someone's house on the scooter you have to have the parents which we're currently doing right the
citations go to the owner of the scooter which are the No but it has to be more immediate you see we don't have we have enforcement but we have enforcement with no penalties we have to really if well we have fines and we have the special magistr we have to take control of the
situation that we're not doing and we're just letting it go on and someone is going to get severely injured and I'm trying to have that not happen but you only you only have certain authority to enforce laws i can't we can't go knocking down our inner streets i
understand about Collins but on our inner streets we have the full ability to ban scooters correct if you want to ban them you can try to okay so let's do a resolution to ban scooters and ebikes
on our sidewalks in Sunny Isles jerry we've had this conversation many times so if we do that they're not supposed to be on the sidewalk as it is right supposed to be on this trail we made a line on the sidewalk okay let me speak Jerry so then what's the
alternative they have to be on the street we've had this conversation a hundred times and do you want to be the commission that put the 9-year-old on the scooter or on the street that's up to the parents i agree with you but if clearly the parents are not getting it
right are you going to make it worse by putting the kid on the street this is the same kid that I understand maybe hitting the the the senior citizen on the on the sidewalk right and and I and I get that i It's not like I don't understand that but the problem is I
don't want the kids on the street either i want them off the scooters i want the scooters gone so then we have to take a stand we have to set pass a resolution to ban the scooters in Sunny Isles on our inner streets
and if if someone is on Collins on a scooter eventually they're going to leave Collins once they leave Collins they do what with it and then they have to carry it whatever they do it's if it's an inconvenience they'll eventually they'll
start walking it's not a practical it is practical yeah you have But okay you have to take a step in order to get to the end result okay well I I I I see your point however I don't think it's practical and I
believe it is practical consistently have nothing we are not doing nothing in fact that's the reason I brought this up is because Can I finish please i understand that you're very passionate and I agree with you that this is a problem however banning scooters on the
sidewalks and interior roads and pushing them out into the street isn't going is going to create a problem out of That was not my intent to push them out in the street i want them that's the alternative no I want them gone the alternative i want to ban them totally
and if you if we have we have for years tried to find ways to get people out of their cars because we have so much traffic and so I've had so many parents say to me that this is how they're able to get their kids to school let me finish let me finish this is how our
residents choose to get from point A to point B and they've made it very clear that if we do not allow them to take scooters to school they're going to have to drive their kids and so that creates an additional problem i think that this is not something that's so easily fixed
and that's why even at the tal at the level of the state this may be parents that live outside of the city anyone that lives in the city we have buses we have walking no these are not parents that live outside of the city no no this is not this no I think we need to move
on yeah we do need to move on because it's already 5:30 this commission is not willing to take a stand for residents for older residents unfair statement well that's but that's the case absolutely not the case okay about
scooters people is choosing to use them transportation many people that they they cannot even drive because they don't have the papers to to drive that's one of the real reasons also why they're using the scooters so um and I do agree that I don't want to see the kids in the
street and we don't want to see the scooters in the sidewalks so yeah we need to be creative to protect the those two groups the seniors that are getting hit and the children that might get hit so yeah I agree with Jerry that something needs to be done
i I think we all agree that something needs to be done the the thing is the execution of of that enforcement but we're not doing anything but and the police have done as much as they can do hasn't been thought out i mean I think we need to think about it and and see
what what other steps we could take let the um the deputy manager have some closing words so we can move on because it's already uh 5:35 for all the reasons that you've discussed the safety reasons the additional traffic the non-compliance the city attorney uh the
city engineer has been working on a traffic study to build a bike scooter pedestrian and make some serious improvements in the central island area it doesn't solve the whole problem but it'll take a great area that we have now
and improve that so tonight you have the interlocal agreement um with Miami Day County once that gets approved and we get a plan approved by them we can solve this without banning them by giving them a very designated space and then if they
don't use that designated space we can talk about future you know further enforcement efforts okay but I think that you you all get the message that we're concerned about this and clearly right now enforcement is not working we
we agree right that enforcement is not working enforcement is working people it's not working it's not working to limit the scooters it's not it's not 100% but our purpose was to make it safer you can't guarantee anything well you still see kids without helmets you
see uh tandem riding you see I agree that there's people speeding through stop signs laws there's laws driving without you know not driving without a license people are going to do what they're going to do we can't and it's it's an impossibility that our police
ways to go we have enforce yeah and I think the a lot of room for improvement it's uninforcable it's uninforceable it's very Yeah I agree it's It's difficult to It's uninforcable and someone is going to get injured severely unfortunately um
okay it's 5:35 are we going to keep going what's left we have uh sidewalk enhancements and tennis courts all right okay so the sidewalk enhancements is very quick i would just like the city to
have uh some inspector go through the entire city and mark uh broken sidewalks for replacement we have a lot of trip hazards uh that I've been hearing i don't think you're going to get any push back on that are we in agreement i agree okay there you
go yes okay so the next item is the tennis courts at 158th Street um I have pictures of basketball courts throughout the city that we have there are other pictures she has i
thought this was a packet for me no no no through it yeah I did i did so everyone's looked through it so we have Commissioner I'm sorry can you do it into the mic please because we need into the microphone so we have pictures of which you know try trying to please
everyone we have markings on a tennis court that if you're a tennis player you cannot have a reasonably comfortable game of tennis with all these markings you ne would never know where the ball falls it's
just an impossibility we have throughout the city underneath the causeway i was there today taking pictures it's underneath the causeway the black top has been totally redone it's in
perfect condition uh someone had said the other day that it was uneven at all which is not the case so that's and the gate is uh completely open um for anyone to use i know there's a
rental sign on the gate which I don't understand what that is for uh basketball court usage is available by rental only with a QR code i don't know what that that was when we tried to
do the registration system that we stopped doing i'll get the sign down so anyway so the gate is now open fully open for anyone to use and there you have a full basketball courts now we have beautiful
basketball at the spot only basketball okay beautiful okay and we have two tennis courts going in our first and only tennis courts in Sunny Isles and I ask that we use logic
to not destroy it by putting any other sport on our first tennis courts which are going to be fully used they're going to be absolutely booked solid for tennis
only and I ask that we not make a mistake and make them make those two tennis courts multi-use please use logic i don't know how many tennis players there are on this commission i am for one but if you
haven't played tennis you know if you have any other lines except tennis courts on a you know on a tennis court it's hard sometimes even with the tennis lines when the ball hits there are disputes
over whether it's in or out if you have other lines that are disguising the tennis court lines it makes it even more difficult so these are our first two tennis courts in the city public courts please don't
destroy them with all these other lines so Jerry when you suggested that we that we put tennis courts at Heritage Park why would you suggest that if we're going to have tennis courts on 58 okay
because you're going to see when we have these courts the demand is more than your thinking i understand so but I feel the same way about basketball okay but you have look at the beautiful but just like you said and I didn't even say you said you have indoor basketball you have
indoor basketball at Pelican Park as well because it's high demand but okay I don't share your passion three areas yes because and then so let me ask you at Plaza the Americas you have tennis courts correct yep and do you have
basketball yep okay so then you should and guess which one is used basketball the basketball and guess which one is empty with 800 units i'm just saying the I think it's it's hard to to to base this on personal
experience because then if I had it based on my personal experience I don't play either so No I don't play tennis but I can tell you a lot of courts i think that I don't have a good backhand Jerry i could I I do if I may but um but
the I can tell you the plaza tennis courts are are okay i don't know what the condition is i don't know what they are i can tell you and then another thing liabilitywise Alan can you please explain for us if you have a basketball
um court a basketball pole on a tennis court does that turn out to be a liability for the city i would not want to answer that well on to let commissioner Stevenson ask a question we had a lot of conversations
very long about inter coastal park four years we make a promise to the people of the area originally it was not even going to be considered tennis it was going to be a multi-purpose yeah multi multi-purpose i remember you wanted just
green space yes I do yes I just wanted green space is right because that area we want to keep it residential so after a lot of conversation a lot of discussions we got to the rendering that it got approved i understand that the
need for more tennis courts and we have a big space under the causeway uh to do so actually if you want to propose to change the basketball court that you have right now there under the causeway to attorney's court I'll be so happy to
to help you do that or move that on okay but what we decide that we are doing over there in intra coastal park after a lot of I don't want to say fight let's put it discussions i think we are all in agreement okay uh the people in the area
are looking forward to have a basketball court in there uh and I understand the frustration about the need for more tennis courts but you know what it's not the reality of the majority of sonals almost every place has a tennis or multi multiple tennis court like where I live
in Poinsiana we have four tennis court we're having a a tournament in a few No we don't have a basketball so we have a multiple tennis and we having a tournament with the neighbors in the next few days so I understand the need
but we need a lot of things okay so that was designed discussed approved and it's moving forward so I'm okay with the way we have it right now okay commissioner um Vice Mayor yeah i I think Jerry that
the picture you showed us uh how many courts are there there's basketball there's uh tennis courts are hosted and I believe it's pickle ball as well okay so we're going to have two courts in one dual use okay
I listen the demand for basketball's high i mean it's great here pelican you mentioned Pelican i mean a lot of scheduling goes on there so that that court is for somebody that just wants to
you know play pickup game is very hard so we right now we have underneath the causeway that just got let's say redone and then we will have the one on 158 So I think we could give it a try if it
doesn't work then it doesn't work we could then decide what to do but let's not let's not kill it before we start let's give it a try and see how it can it can work out so let me ask a question Stan i'm going to ask you a question so
if we're going to give it a try is it easier to give it a try with the basketball court not installed and then install the tennis the basketball after or to remove the basketball
poles what's what's If there's no option for basketball then you're not going to know who's wants to play basketball you have to see what the demand is going to be well you have what is Okay so right now there is no one going under the causeway to play basketball and those
that cord is in perfect condition no it is not it's not usable i have it is usable i was there today i took the pictures if I the children that went to play there one of them twisted the uncle a few a couple of years ago i was there today okay good for you it was perfectly
black top it is it is a very No I seen I've been there i don't need to What What's the point no if I may ask it was just Commissioner Studes speak and then we're going to close the meeting because I think we have that basketball court is unusable for basketball you can transform it for tennis and I will
second the motion for you okay um with that being said meeting adjourned we will see everyone at 6:30 thank you