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All --------- right. Good afternoon, everyone. Is there an echo? >> It's new mics. Okay, it's very loud. It's It's good. Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. It is 133. Calling the meeting to order. Mauricio, thank >> you. Commissioner Joseph,

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>> present. Commissioner Lama >> here. >> Vice Mayor Viscara. >> Mayor Fetchin >> here. >> For the record, Commissioner Sison is unable to attend today. So, we have quum. >> Okay. Do we want to make changes then to the agenda right now? >> Yes, we are making a few changes to the

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agenda. Item 3A is being deferred. >> Good afternoon everyone. >> What is that? >> That was you. There was a delay. Okay. Excuse me. So 3A is being deferred

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um as well as items 4 A, 4 B, 4 C, 4 D, and 4 E and 4 F. >> Okay. All right. Public comments. >> Yes. So just to remind uh the commission and and the members of the public and

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the audience that we now have public comments during workshops, whereas we normally didn't have it before. However, it is a little different from the public comment section that we have normally during the 6:30 meeting. Uh the comments during the workshop are limited only to

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those items that are listed on the agenda today and um we are still following the same rules of procedures where each speaker is limited to three minutes per item. Um, please make sure that you fill out your public speaker cards which are located in the back

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table if anyone desires to talk on any item that's listed on the agenda. With that, we can >> for clarification. It's three minutes total, not per item. >> Three minutes total, excuse me. Yes. Three minutes total. >> All right, let's move on to 3B, please.

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>> So 3B is a special presentation for promotional ceremony for police officers. Okay. So, we're also deferring 3B >> for 6:30. >> Oh, moving to the end. Excuse me. >> To the end. >> To the end of the meeting. Yes. >> Okay. Why don't you go with the next

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item then? >> Okay. So, we're going to also skip 3C for now and we're going to go with uh 3D, which is a presentation on the art contest award winners. >> All right. Commissioner Joseph. >> Okay. So, um, this year, uh, where we,

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uh, usually had had the students from Edel Cup K through 8 would paint on the RK wall across from the school. Uh, that was not available this year. And the students did their own um, paintings

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which were displayed. And, um, there were awards given by Mayor Edeto as he uh, regularly does each year. uh last month and I had asked and the uh commission agreed to have the uh

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paintings exhibited in our uh city hall lobby for one more one month period for the month of July. And I would like to um recognize Gentry Buddha, Amelia

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Serretv, Ariana This is a tough one. You I feel like President Trump. You Zieva and Yaraslav

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Vo Voyovich. Do they happen to be here today? >> Everyone students. >> Are there four students here? >> One student. >> One student. >> Only one student out of the out of the four.

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>> Uh And you are >> Yaro. >> Yaruslav. >> Okay. >> I have Yaroslav. I only have >> Well, >> all right. So, we're going to give you this, but we're going to have to give you a new one

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because this has your name misspelled. >> Um, why don't we why don't you come up and we'll take a picture with you. >> Yes. >> Thank you for showing up. Okay, >> congratulations. Thank you, Commissioner Joseph. It recognizes students. Okay,

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next item. >> Next item. We are now going to enter into discussion items. We're going to skip down. Yes, we're going to move that to the end. So 4G is a discussion item regarding the cone of silence. >> All right. And this item is discussion

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by Commissioner Joseph. Please go ahead. >> Let me just get to it. Let's see. Which one is this? the cone of silence. That's your item. >> Oh, cone of silence. Okay. Yes. So, um

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it's come to my attention that the um the city departments that are doing um uh purchases. I believe that they're not um

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no one can be up on every item regarding uh purchasing and the city has a wide variety of items that we purchase and I believe that having the closed bidding and all and for commissioners or

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anyone else in city administration that knows about certain items um should be able to see what the bidding is, what the numbers are prior to uh the bid going out and and as the

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bids come in. Also, the idea that we're telling uh vendors how much we want to put towards a project and then asking them to come back with numbers is totally absurd. I don't think that works in any

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industry like that. And I've been hearing that the city is doing this on so many items and projects and we're just losing hundreds of thousands of dollars uh according to that process and I would like to see it end and part of

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that is doing away with the code of sil silence to make it a more open process. >> Okay. Okay. So your suggestion is that um the commission and anyone else that feels they have expertise in a

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particular field should be conversing >> contribute >> directly with the procurement department. >> Correct. >> As they please. >> Yes. >> So anyone would start contacting Genesis and her team if they feel like they have an expertise. >> What do you mean anyone? >> You said the commission and anyone

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>> authority in in city authority. >> What's how are you defining city authority? Well, commissioners, city manager, assistant city manager, um if there happens to be another department, uh such as uh public works that might be

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aware of the item that's being purchased and if they may have some input, I think that's a good procedure and much better than what we're doing now. >> Okay. So if I can get clarification please from the city attorney how this process uh is supposed to work

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>> I mean you as elected officials can always inquire regarding u procurements that are coming before you through the manager and if the manager sees fit through staff. The cone of silence really is directed for

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communications between you and vendors. uh cones of silence have been sort of been born of necessity because of entanglements, interference, influence and things of that sort which is why all except well I think everybody in Miami

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day county follows the cone of silence cuz we don't have our own cone of silence. We follow Miami date counties. back in 1998, you had passed your own code of ethics and in 2002 you had opted out of the uh county's cone of silence,

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but in 2022 um you were informed, I don't recall how, but that we were the only jurisdiction in Miami date county that did not follow the con of silence. So the city commission repealed the opt out and you opt back in to the cone of silence in 2020.

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>> That turned out to have been an error. Well, again, this is the and that's up for you to decide, but again, the cones of silence are born of necessity. Um, it creates a very convoluted process if you are able to speak to vendors. Um because

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there's an inequality of exposure and information which leads to bid protests. It leads to interference where you have procurement possibly public works or another department negotiating with a vendor and then you as elected officials

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step in. >> I never said negotiate with the vendor. >> That's what the cone of silence is. Well, I understand >> there's no point of silence if you if you want to get information regarding particular procurement that is available through the city manager and staff.

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>> So maybe it would be hold on a second commissioner Joseph if we can so that we're all talking about the same thing yet the actual definition of what cone of silence means so that we are discussing the same thing because there might be a misunderstanding as to what it is commissioner Joseph is looking to do. No,

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>> you're looking to provide what you consider your expertise to the procurement department. Correct. Not directly to the vendor >> and >> not not only me. I don't know everything about everything. I I know about certain things and I know how to investigate

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where maybe >> Yeah. We have so many examples. We have examples of when we were uh getting boat lifts and you know the the person in procurement >> No, no, no. I what I mean for clarification, you're not looking to speak directly to vendors. You're asking

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to Okay, that's what the cone of silence is, right? >> That's I think what why we need that definition. >> Apart from that, what you're talking about is you as a legislative person elected cannot negotiate and or interfere. No, but you you

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>> you're what you're suggesting is interacting through the process. So your procurement process is a closed process for a reason because and that's best practices throughout all governmental public procurement. The elected officials can't get involved in the

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procurement process because ultimately you're the final decision makers. So to the extent that >> you want to be able to verify that the person in procurement is doing the best for the city >> that's the city manag city manager.

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>> Okay. Well, there have been instances where uh someone is dropping the ball then which >> and you know and just a clarification again you all can do what you want but the cone of silence aspect is a county directive through the ethics uh code

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2-11.1 uh subsection T I believe um which and it's very long and it's it's convoluted but it's really to for to foreclose communications for vendors that are bidding or once a procurement is put out.

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>> Commissioner Joseph, can you let the can you let the attorney finish, please? >> Commissioner Joseph bidding on a project. >> Commissioner Joseph, could we do one at a time, please? >> They can switch off and say, "Oh, I'll take this one this time." And >> you no, that's that's called collusion. And they have to swear to anti. If

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somebody does that, that's extremely against the law. Okay? >> There's bid rigging. There's all kinds of things. And that's why, >> right? So, let's be naive and say that that never happens. Well, we're not to our knowledge again, if somebody is out there committing a

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crime, we don't necessarily know about that and there's no way for us to foreclose that. >> They have to sign affidavit, a slew of affidavit regarding anti-ollusion and all these types of things. That's public procurement as it stands. I mean, if somebody's going to commit fraud on you, they're going to commit fraud on you, unfortunately. But the cone of silence

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itself deals with prevention of vendors courting you to try to get an advantage in the bidding process where they're going to be selected versus another vendor. And that's what that pretty much forecloses. So it closes the system out

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of interference and influence to the extent that >> you want more information about um procurements that may be going out. Once the city manager through staff can give you all the information that you can >> let me let me just clarify for for for the public and for myself so I

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understand that I understand it correctly. So, for instance, uh way back when when we were bidding out the Tony Roma site to various vendors and restaurant tours, I had throughout that process, because it was a lengthy process, had residents who were interested potentially in opening up a

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restaurant or had restaurants say to me things like, "Well, why didn't you let me know? You know, I'm interested." And can you tell me more about what it is you all are looking for? My response was, "I'm not part of this process. You need to deal directly with the city manager. I cannot guide you and I'm not

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going to meet with you to discuss that. Is that what we're talking about as far as a cone of silence? >> So that that that deals with when you're issuing >> ethical >> when you're issuing your procurement >> whether it's an RFP, RFQ, whichever else. >> Every governmental entity has avenues to

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put that out. So we use Demand Star. There's uh a few other companies and there's always word of mouth. We also blast out through social media and so on and so forth. And we put the RFQ RFP

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which out in these huge databases with thousands of vendors that can respond uh or show interest, ask questions and so on and so forth. >> Are those databases open to anyone or only registered vendors? Do you know? >> Well, they have to register with those particular and and actually procurement

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does a pretty good job of a few times a year. I think they put on a workshop or seminar for residents to teach them how to do business with the city. So there's there's ways to do that and if anybody ever has any questions about that, they can contact procurement and they'll be told exactly how to do it. >> Okay. >> But um

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>> All right. So walk me through it. So we put out uh a request for a proposal and uh at some point and I'm talking about after the p fact at some point that was closed down. >> Once you put out the RFP, the cone of silence comes in. So the vendors can't

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call start calling you and say, "Hey, I'm the best product. Don't worry about these other people." Right? So you want to avoid all of that. So that happens once you put the the procurement >> and any vendors that have submitted an RFP know that. >> Yes, they're told and it's documents.

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>> If they go to uh contact any of the commissioners, what happens? >> They're disqualified automatically. Okay. So that may be the reason why people stopped calling me. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That could be. And then prior to even the RFQ going out to to Commissioner Joseph's point, we look at subject

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matter expertise. So for example, if we're going to put something else that deals with public works, we're dealing with engineers, we're dealing with architectures, we have consultants to the extent that we need uh additional information on um just like you go to the subject matter experts. It's not I

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don't want to single her out, but it's not Genesis or Anastasia making the sole call on that. The scope it's the same thing with me as an attorney. I draft the contracts. I'm the scrier, but I'm not coming up with the scopes of work on how to build a bridge. I don't know how to build a bridge. >> I don't know the first thing about it.

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So you rely on the subject matter expertise to provide you that information. That's the same information that's provided uh for the RFQS, the RFPs depending on how they are because at times you're going to put something out that's more general expecting those vendors to come back with the

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specificity that you're looking for. Um so it really depends on the procurement but the cone of silence really deals with the inability for communications between vendors not just the elected officials but also I mean there's certain individuals they can obviously they can speak with the procurement

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staff there's a process where they can ask questions and so on and those answers to those questions are actually published to all the biders so that everybody's on the equal footing. All right. So, from the city manager's point of view, can you please clarify as well because I think that um it's pretty

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clear why we would not be involved in those kind of conversations. >> Yeah. If you allow uh your influence, then we would be choosing vendors that you like. That's not how it works in public purchasing. There's no issues

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here. I have full confidence in our procurement department. They've won awards for following policies and procedures when including any of our vendors that purchase. What happens is a lot of vendors want to participate but they don't follow the rules. So they

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don't have insurance background checks all of the we also require checking their financial um I guess or ability to be able to do the work that they perform. So there's no

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issues here. there's no problems. In fact, we've saved money and ensured the uh ensured that everything that we're following follows governmental standards. So, we

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haven't gone outside of that process. Over these past many years, you've seen a lot of other cities that have problems with their procurement or we don't have any of that here. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. I'd like to hear from uh Commissioner. So, so question now

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going to Commissioner Joseph's um inquiry, can he as an elected official talk to the city manager or talk to maybe have a meeting with let's say the building department if we're getting some sort of we have a bid out there for

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Tony Rome and inquire about what has been presented, what the conversations have been. Can he do that? You could make inquiries of staff through the manager and if the manager decides to have that his staff there as well to provide you, you can always make

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inquiries. You just cannot direct >> or suggest that they do something because it's kind of hard when you have a commit an elected official come to you and say, "Hey, I think we should do this." >> Even though it's not a do this, you feel compelled to do that. So you that's

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where and it's in your charter where you can always make inquiries but um you just have to be in the procurement process you just have to be careful with it because a lot of it it's not necessarily confidential but some aspects of it are until you get to a

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certain point. So it's information that you get but you're certainly able to get that information from uh from staff and through the city manager. >> Yeah. So so okay. So let's say in that process of inquiries we realize that

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let's say some of the vendors that we had been analyzing perhaps don't are not good you know um what would happen in that situation I mean >> wait wait wait I just want clarification who's we >> no no let's say Jerry's meeting with

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with um >> with Stan and some other staff >> let's talk about how it works now not about what might be >> no no cuz I want to know h how much you could ask questions because you wanted to know >> cuz you're you know I I don't want like

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I I want the public to understand the process. Okay. And I also want to understand that I think that we as elected officials we could go walk into the city manager's office and say I want to have a meeting. Let's talk about these this bid process. Right. I have

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some questions. I think we're free to do that. Correct. >> We do that. And so, for example, back to one of the situations when we were dealing with the docks where the commissioner wanted to make sure that certain type of stainless steel bolt was being used. >> You can certainly do that. You can you can ask for the scope of work. So, an

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RFP goes out, you can look at the RFP and or the RFQ, whatever it is. Look at the scope of work and say, you know what, Stan, uh, I think we really need to make sure that they use these kinds of bolts. And that's something that can be updated. >> Yeah. As long as the process isn't finished,

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>> it's something that can you can communicate that all day long. >> Yeah. Is is that what you're looking for? >> No. Also, we have a problem where the the city manager is coming to us to acknowledge and approve funding for

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something that then goes out for bid. So, the vendors already know the amount that's been procured. So then we're asking them to give us their best bid on something that they know has already been procure, you know, an amount that's

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already been offered to the commission. So in that regard also, we're paying more than we should be on a lot of things. >> I want to let the city manager answer that, please. >> Yeah, that's incorrect. Um, it's impossible for us to not have something

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approved in terms of a budget amount for us to go and bid something out. If you want to leave it completely open-ended, then we could have, for example, holiday lights that cost $10 million. So, exactly. It seems

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laughable, but that's what you're suggesting in the in the reverse. So, we have to have a budget that establishes the amount. Certainly anyone can look at our budget. It's a public process. It's approved by you. But that is the basis

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for us bidding. If I'm bidding holiday lights and I don't put some sort of a range in it, some people may bid, some people may not bid or we could get some outlandish numbers. That's what keeps the process true. And it all gets

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approved by you from start to finish. to Commissioner Lama's question. Yes, we're happy to answer any question that you have, but this has happened in the past where you've brought a vendor, not you specifically, you've brought a

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vendor to me and said, "I want to use this person." What I then do is put them in contact with our procurement director. They have to be part of the process. We don't just use any vendor. We have to put it out to bid as is our process.

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And then the best responsible bidder is awarded the contract based on the process which involves the subject matter experts from the city or outside count council plus our legal counsel and

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committees that help weigh in and evaluate the process. All of which are documented, recorded and open to the public to a certain extent. If I if I may may or also just because I prepare the and I review all the RFPs, RFQS for

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legal sufficiency, >> providing a budget is really the exception and I think the most recent one is the holiday lights. You know, we we sort of have to meter that in because as the city manager says, you can get the gambit. You know, you can go the millions and millions versus 10,000. Um,

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>> but if we're procuring, let's say when we did the showers at Samson Park, We put it out there. We need three showers put in. Give us your best shot. And then we get that back. >> You did not put I'm sorry to interrupt. You did not put a an amount or you

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typically say, you know, >> uh for $50,000, what can you do for us? That's not typical. And I think the only example I can think of from recent and I've been here three and a half years is the holiday lights because there we have a strict budget and that can really go all over the place. But if you're

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procuring something uh or service, repairing what they're doing to the garage now, you know, you're you're we need pressure washing and sealing of our garage. >> You don't tell them I have $5 million for that >> and they'll come back and they tell us and then sometimes there's great

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disparity between vendors and that makes it easier. But you also have to look at qualifications and so on and so forth. So I think the question was do we put an amount when we put a bid out and you and you stated that the only exception or one of the few exceptions was the holiday lights

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>> in my memor I mean obviously procurement and and management may have other examples but typically we don't say please do this for us for this amount or less. >> Mhm. >> We do have just a little point of clarification but we have budgeted that amount. So that's what I was referring

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to when I said they could see it if they want to go into the budget. Yeah. >> In the in the example that the city attorney gave for the showers, they can look at our individual bud budget line items and see that we've allocated a certain amount of funds to redo the

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bathrooms at Samson in that example. >> Okay. >> Um, vice mayor is on the phone. I want to give her an opportunity if she wanted to ask any questions. Vice Mayor, she's still there. is >> Jennifer. >> Hello.

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>> Yeah. Do you have any questions? Are you able to hear us? >> Uh yeah, it's it's difficult and I'm following actually as best I can with the uh subtitles. Anyway, the um the um cone of silence is

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I remember when we uh um opted out and um it was basically us joining everybody else like we we were behind the times on that and it serves a purpose. Uh I'm not interested in in changing anything.

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um you know it's it prevents that it can't guarantee uh per perfection but uh it prevents the uh you know shadiness and uh you know we don't want to go back to the wild west

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where if you're somebody's friend you have a better chance of getting a contract like this is meant to like put everybody on equal footing and that's uh the way it should be on merit and neutrally. Uh so uh removing the

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cone of silence I think is a step back. So um I'm not in favor of of touching it. >> Okay. All right. Um Commissioner Lama, are you uh in favor or are you um of of changing the

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>> No, I like to keep I like to keep the cone of silence. I think that we could still obviously go to the city manager and you know have a meeting with the city manager to inquire about you know some of the companies that are bidding um look at the information. I do recall

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when we didn't have the cone of silence. We're about to vote for something and and vendors were calling me and um yeah I don't think that's the proper way to go about things. I think Jerry that you still have the ability to talk to Stan and to staff. You know, you request a

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meeting, you could talk to them and you could give him, you know, your your opinion. Um, I think it's like like the city attorney stated, it is for us not to be speaking to vendors. Um, you know, we don't want

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>> I've never just I I've never taken those calls. >> Yeah. Because I think the cone of silence was implemented when around the time you came in. >> Yeah. >> And uh I I did Yeah. They would call me. They would call me and and and I I kind of felt uncomfortable to be honest.

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>> It was in my second year. >> Yeah. >> I was voting back in. >> Yeah. Yeah. So I Yeah. It's it it makes it an an awkward and uncomfortable uh you know moment when when these vendors call you and you're about to vote for something and Yeah. I would refer him to

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to to staff. I'm like, listen, talk to staff, but still, you know, some of these vendors, you know, or you know, you want to you don't want to be rude, but yeah, it's uncomfortable. >> Well, look, I know we go to um

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conventions sometimes and we have people from Freeb and these other vendors. they they come up to you and I mean we've had commissioners present freebie to us and I know I was approached it by freebie

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several times and uh you know >> and it's going to happen. You refer them to others as well. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But um I I never really uh let them address me to the point where they think I might,

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you know, present anything to uh have them be above anyone else. >> But I get your point. If you say, listen, you know, vendor A has got this product that's faulty or I don't think it's the proper product, I think you can meet with city staff and ask them and,

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you know, have a conversation with them. And just a caveat, mayor, because it's the the cone of silence is the the the ordinance is long and it's got a lot of exceptions. So when we say talk to staff, I just want to be careful and I can forge you the cone of silence.

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>> So for example, >> if they're going to be on the selection committee or evaluation committee, you can't talk to them. >> U there's certain staff you won't be able to talk. You can always talk to procurement. You can always talk to the manager. If there's somebody else you need to talk to, we need to check to make sure they don't fall within

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depending on what the procurement is. Okay. So, I don't want to think that you can. >> The point is that we could have a conversation with with the manager and perhaps someone else from procurement or something, >> right? So, there's designated folks that that can with you about let me uh just

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give the manager the final word so we can move on because I think >> Mayor, I just wanted to add one more thing. Whenever our purchasing director releases a solicit a solicitation to bid, we do a citywide email and we also copy you on that so you that you're aware of it and anybody that wants to

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participate is welcome to. >> Thank you. Okay. >> I just have one other question. >> Sure. So in the procurement process, when there's a certain item that's looking to be purchased, is there research done to be sure that the

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product that we're looking to purchase is the most upto-date? And you know, sometimes there's I know when I've ever gone to buy a laptop, I'm always buying the best on the market that's going to

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last me, you know, it or the chip that's just coming out so that I have this laptop is going to be useful to me for several years where, you know, if you go in and just buy any laptop

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from BJ's or any other vendor, Best Buy, by they have they could have a model there that's two years old and you would never know it or a chip that's two years old. So I just want to be sure that there's some process with procurement

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that they're researching. We're not we're not ever ending up with a product that is not the top of the line and that we're thinking ahead several years as to this product is is going to

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be above and beyond even several years from now >> in dealing with the contracts and and with procurement directly every day. Um to use your example for computers, you know, we have Derek who's our IT director who's extremely knowledgeable

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in that area. So certainly if there's going to be a procurement for purchasing computers, uh procurement staff, purchasing staff works with again the subject matter experts in the city or if we don't have subject matter experts in

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the city, we go to a consultant that we have. But certainly uh staff isn't just saying, "Oh, we need a computer, so let's just go to Best Buy and get the best deal." That it's just not how it works. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. >> But wait, just one more >> one more and we need to move on because the discussion item is already done.

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>> So just we have actually on the agenda today. So, I'm just as an example, and I'm trying to have this not happen again in this city where we had when when it came to doing a contract regarding the

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undergrounding in Golden Shores, whoever was around at that time was not forward thinking enough to think ahead as to what might be the internet um product that was going underground at

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the time in in 2026. Okay. So, but copper has been obsolete for many years now and still the contract how it was written was that any whatever was on

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the light on on the polls was to go underground which was a a technical error in the contract at that time and I've been yelling about it for months and months and months. Okay. And

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that's my main point to be sure that we don't make that mistake again ever. >> But that's not a procurement issue. So there's two things there. One, it's it's not a procurement issue because we don't that's not something the city's purchasing. So the product that's being put there, that's an undergrounding

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project where we are undergrounding the existing lines. We don't regulate the the public services commission. >> Not forward thinking. >> It's not it's not a procurement. We didn't purchase anything. So that has nothing to do with procurement. That's a completely separate issue that you can deal with, you know, with the prior

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manager potentially. But we don't really control and we discussed it last meeting exactly what utilities can go under there because we don't >> looking to get that tentacle regarding the utilities. I'm just this is an example and that is a utility.

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>> The example is to for our procurement department to be forward thinking >> procurement has any product that's purchased. That's what I would like to see. >> We didn't purchase that product. So, procurement had no involvement in that. >> That's okay. That's my point. >> All right, let's move on. I just want to

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say for the record that our procurement department and our staff have done an excellent job. No one is doing anything. I'm saying it for the record. Um, our IT department, I believe that Derek is a

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graduate of MIT. Um, so >> no one can know everything about everything. >> But about computers, I feel confident that he knows. So let's move on to the next item, please. >> I made my point. >> Thank you, >> Mayor Commissioners. We're going to go back now to special presentations 3C,

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the proclamation presented for Parks and Recreation Month. I'll read the proclamation and then if the commission can come downstairs to >> How many people do we have? A lot. >> The whole department. >> So maybe we'll just stay up here and Okay. >> Go ahead. You want me to read it first

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or do you want to do your introduction? >> Uh, you you can read it first because then I'll play the video after. >> Okay. So, the proclamation reads, "Whereas parks and recreation is an integral part of communities throughout this country, including the city of Sunny Alles Beach. Whereas parks and recreation promotes health and wellness,

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improving the physical and mental health for people who live near parks. Whereas parks and recreation promotes time spent in nature, which positively impacts mental health by increasing cognitive performance and well-being and alleviating illnesses such as

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depression, attention deficit disorders, and Alzheimer's. Whereas parks and recreation encourages physical activities by providing space for popular sports, hiking trails, swimming pools, and many other activities designed to promote active lifestyles. Whereas parks and recreation

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is a leading provider of healthy meals, nutrition services and education. And whereas parks and recreation programming and education activities such as out of school time programming, youth sports and environmental education are critical to childhood development. Whereas parks

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and recreation increases a community's economic prosperity through increased property values, expansion of local tax base, increased tourism, the attraction and retention of businesses and crime reduction. Whereas parks and recreation is fundamental to the environmental

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well-being of our community. Whereas parks and recreation is essential and adaptable infrastructure that makes our communities resilient in the face of natural disasters and climate change. And whereas parks and Excuse me. Whereas our parks and natural recreation areas

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ensure the ecological beauty of our community and provide a place for children and adults to connect with nature and recreate outdoors. Whereas the US House of Representatives has designated July as parks and recreation month whereas the city wishes to

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recognize the benefits derived from parks and recreation resources. Thank you, Mauricio. Honorable mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, city staff. Um it's July. It's park and recreation month. Each July, we celebrate park and recreation prof professionals and how

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they improve the lives of tens of millions of people, making a lasting impact communities across the country. Park and recreation programs are essential to community health and well-being and help cultivate lifelong friendships, memories, and family bonds

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that people can hold dear decades later. This year's theme, the power of celebrates how parks and recreation brings us together through the power of play, nature, belonging, and the people of our community. So, if you would humor me for a moment, we have some highlights

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of our past year of the city of Sunny Beach and culture and community services department activities, programs, and the power of Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. And that's just a small piece of what we've done for you for the past year. So, I'd like to thank my staff that's

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behind me and then of all of you for your continued support. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Sign up, man. If >> everyone can come up, we'll we'll take a picture from this side. >> All right. Thank you everyone.

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appreciate your hard work. >> We can't do those activities. We'll stay up here because otherwise there's too many of them. >> Yeah, there's a lot. >> I mean, there's not too many of you. You know what I mean? There's just the right amount. >> We appreciate your hard work. Thank you. together.

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>> Wait, else? Thank you. All right. Thank you. And I'm sure that that video could have probably been like an hour long and still would not have been enough. Um, okay. I understand that uh one of the other

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students is here, so I'd like to be able to recognize her. Yarus Love left. >> Yes, he left. >> Okay. >> Amelia. Amelia, you have her there. I don't I have Ariana. >> Sorry, Ariana. You Ariana? Hi. Yes.

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>> Okay. Do you want to come up? Are you alone or are you your mom? Okay. Do you want to come up? We'll take a picture. >> Okay. congratulations, Ariana. All right. Um, now we are to PD or not yet?

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>> No, we are going to move that um off the agenda. >> All right. So, now we're on item 4. Hi, >> Mayor, if I may. Um, that officer is working midnight shift, so he comes in at 6:00. So, we're going to have a little presentation with the commission

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in the fourth floor conference room at 6. >> At 6. Okay, perfect. That's >> sounds great. Thank you. Okay. >> Okay. So, now going back to discussion items. Uh, just to know for the record again, 4 is being deferred. >> 4 I is a discussion regarding the Golden

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Shores undergrounding project update. Okay. Believe that's the city manager. Uh honorable mayor commission. Um so at the June meeting the item for AM

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electric was did not move forward. It didn't get a second so it didn't move forward. Um for that reason the project is completely on hold. Mhm. >> We can't do anything further, which means power lines will not come down.

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Within the last couple of weeks, they've had at least two outages. Um may or may not be related, but um we need to come to a solution as to if we're going to we need some direction. Do we want to

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um go with our second bidder, which is twice as much cost hourly? Actually, a little bit more than twice. um bring back AM in some way or defer the Golden Shores undergrounding project

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for 6 months to a year. >> Okay, that sounds like a horrible idea. Um deferring that project is a nightmare, especially during hurricane season. >> Yes. >> Um I know that specifically Commissioner Joseph and I live in that neighborhood and uh I know I personally, I'm sure he

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did as well, experience the outage in the middle of the summer. is probably one of the worst things that could happen when the AC and everything else is off. So, um I am in support of moving the item forward, but let's hear from the rest of the commission. Commissioner Joseph.

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>> Yes. So, is it back on the agenda for this evening? >> It is not because we since nothing happened. you have the three-month um deferral, but when we looked at our second bidder, which is our next choice, uh the hourly rate for IM is $43 an hour

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compared to $120 an hour for our second bidder. So, I met with the city attorney to see if there was any way possible to bring it forward tonight. >> And is it is it possible? >> Yeah. So, your option would be to agree to uh add it on. Okay. add on tonight

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and then you would have to cuz you can suspend that rule for the 3 months but you're going to need a super majority. You're going to need four vote who I'm sorry you're going to need a supermaajority of those present. So if for example if it was here I'd need all

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three of you. >> Right. But we're not voting right now. >> No. No. Exactly. I'm talking tonight. >> Tonight. Okay. So I I'm I'm in favor of adding it back on. Commissioner >> in favor as well. >> Commissioner Llama. I'm in favor. Yes, >> Vice Mayor.

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>> Me, too. >> Okay. So, it sounds like we probably will have our super majority. So, please move it to tonight. >> Yes. >> All right. Um, now we're to 4J. >> Yes. 4J is a discussion regarding the internet service for Golden Shores neighborhood.

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>> Okay. This is Commissioner Joseph. This is your item. >> No, this is city manager's item, actually. >> Oh, okay. Oh, it's not it's not my item. >> It's on as your item. >> Well, at the last meeting, Commissioner

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Joseph, you requested that we discuss at this meeting what the options were for Golden Shores. So, we invited both AT&T and Breezeline. Okay. >> To explain that AT&T unfortunately was not available, but we do have a representative here from Breezeline.

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>> Um, okay. if you could please come up and describe what services you're providing to the community. >> Okay. >> I just I just want to um understand AT&T was offered to be here and they rejected the offer.

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>> They said they were not available. >> Not available. >> They did send some information, but it's it's marketing materials that were >> Okay. >> So, knowing So, AT&T knowing that Breezeline was going to be here. >> Yes. >> They didn't show up. That is correct.

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>> I just want to make that clear. >> Understood. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Hi, how are you? Uh, if you can just give us your name and address for the record is that's our process. >> You can give the address of of the business. >> Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, council

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members. Um, I'm Lars Lafus from Breezeline. I'm the general manager for Florida for Breezeline. Um, we are very proud and very thankful to be able to serve Sunny Isles. Um and we have invested tremendous amounts of money to

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both we've completed all the underground work in Golden Shores as well as Sunny Isles multi-phase project. Um we've actually invested uh additional funds to uh create some new technology that's never been deployed in southern Florida

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uh in Golden Shores actually. Uh and it's basically bringing fiber across the street from your home. Right. >> Okay. So we actually today we we are able to offer multi- gig services two gig or more uh to many of the areas in

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in Sunny Isles and in Golden Shores we have gig symmetrical services as well as 2.5 gig services available. So this is very recent. Um in fact it's so recent that I brought our board of directors to uh demonstrate it last week uh in Golden

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Shores. a very proud moment for us in Florida as Breezeline and very proud moment for our company. Um we're again very grateful to be able to serve this area. >> Thank you. Okay. Uh do you have any questions, Commissioner? >> Well, I just like to say that um I have

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in Golden Shores, I've been through AT&T. I've been through AT&T satellite. I've been through um Breezeline. Um, I've had frustration with both

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services. Um, and I actually was going to cancel my Breezeline service the other day and I took in T-Mobile wifi out of frustration because I had no dependable Wi-Fi at my house, which uh

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if you were to check my Breezeline account, uh there's a numerous months and months and months of calling uh with terrible service. Um actually I they I was put on the pilot program

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which um not out of my asking. I just happened to see on Saturday there was a uh service rep going door too in Golden Shores and he was across the street at my neighbor

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Sheila's house who wasn't home and I spoke with him and he said he was going around to uh hopefully to connect new ser a new type of ser a hybrid service that they

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had to homes homes that did not have Reeline currently. So I said, "Well, that's funny because I was just I just took in uh T-Mobile Wi-Fi out of frustration and I was calling on Monday

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to cancel my breeze line." And they said, "Oh, don't do that, but as a new customer, we can connect you to our hybrid service." I said, 'Well, not to do anything for me specially, but if you're willing to try and I'm, you know,

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willing to be out of frustration to have any better service than I have now, um, if you're willing to connect me, I'm going to say exactly what I uh notice and recognize as to the difference in my

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service. and uh they connected me yesterday and I have to say out in the street which is not what I have in my house but I saw that out in the street there was 2.5 gigs

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um of service in my house I had 560 because I have copper from the street to my house and inside my house >> yeah we did look at that Commissioner Joseph and you have Eero uh Wi-I Wi-Fi

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uh in your house and we deliver the gig symmetrical to your modem and it's just Wi-Fi by nature whether it's AT&T or us or anybody else. It does degrade signal but we absolutely wanted to provide you with the absolute best service. >> So now I'm looking to somehow bring

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fiber from inside my house to outside if that's possible. >> Is that we have we have fiber right outside your house and that's how we deliver the service. >> Right. But to bring the fiber into my house to my terminal >> the last few copper. Yeah.

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>> No, but to replace the copper with fiber. Is that possible for people? >> Is it possible? It is possible. Is I don't think it's necessary because we provide a service that is absolutely as good as fiber and fiber to the home, I should say. >> Well, I would certainly

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>> have fiber right outside your home. >> If there's something I could do to have 2.6 6 gigs inside my house. >> Again, you would need the equipment to do so. And we can deliver 2.5 gig into inside your house. >> Mhm. >> It's dependent on your Wi-Fi. It's

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dependent on your devices and how fast iPhones for instance 400 megabits per second. They don't pass 2.5 gig. So, it's just matter. We will absolutely maximize what you need, right, >> to do your business. >> Okay. But if I were to bring fiber to the street from my house, have a

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contractor bring fiber from my garage to the street that would give me a a higher amount of gigs or no >> not necessarily. >> So that's not worth the effort. >> Nope. We again we stand by our service.

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We have multi- gig services throughout Sunny Sunny Isles. You get gig symmetrical or 2.5 gig to your home. We can deliver that now. We're very confident in that and we appreciate the ability to deliver that now having

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invested so much money to serve this area. >> Yes. >> Okay. Let me let me see if there's any other questions. Commissioner Lama, do you have any questions? >> Yeah. Question for you. So, how does it work with the high-rise buildings? I live in the Winston Towers. I don't know if you're familiar. 174th Street. You have seven towers there. How does it

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work? Is it the same setup where you have fiber and then copper going into the actual structure? It depends, right? It it absolutely depends. Um I can't speak to that building. Do you want to speak to that building? Okay. >> This is Danny Ortiz. He's our director

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of field operations. >> Hi, Danny. >> So, hi. Pleasure meeting you. Um Windsor Tower is a little bit different. Uh Windsor Tower is considered a bulk account, which means the actual building, the actual HOA um does a contract with the company to provide a specific service.

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>> Okay. Just for that building in particular. Mhm. >> Um, if I'm not mistaken, Wizard Tower is actually a pond. >> A what network? >> A G pond network. >> Okay. >> Which means that it is FTP fiber to the >> fiber to the unit. Okay.

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>> But to answer uh uh Commissioner Joseph question, um, we can provide the same speed that we do in his network versus what we do in your network. What's going to make the difference is what you own in your home that allows you to reach

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>> that that speed. For example, the aeros system that you have is a Wi-Fi uh five system which can only go to a specific amount. >> I see >> through the Wi-Fi. >> So, I can upgrade that. I can >> Yes. But if you would grab a computer and connect your computer straight to

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the modem, you will be able to get the speeds that we're we're >> right. >> Okay. >> It all depends on the system that >> Vice Mayor, do you have any questions? >> No, but please speak into the mic. They can't hear you in the back. Thank you. >> Just a little Yeah. Thank you.

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>> We also offer Rex. >> She stepped away. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> You offer your own extenders as well? >> We do. >> We do. >> Yeah. And by the way, we're very proud to also carry this channel on our TV service. Uh we had some pings like, "Hey, good luck tonight."

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>> All right. Actually, the city does not have the correct channel indicated. If you could just let them know what channel that is so they can have it on their website. Got >> because they have currently they have the wrong channel. >> All right. So, this was a nice little commercial for

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>> B. Correct. >> Uh, all right. >> Honestly, we've we get this a great place. This is a beautiful city, by the way. I'm, >> you know, come from many other states. Um, and I've been with Breezeline for eight months. Uh, as the general

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manager, uh, I can tell you we have an amazing team. Uh, I I love working here and we're going to continue to get better and better and better every day. >> Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to to come. Thank you. Okay. >> I would just like to say one more >> one more thing. >> Yes. I have been uh for for over two

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years trying to get the best service in Golden Shores for internet. And two years ago, myself and Senator Piso contacted AT&T when we noticed that on their website, they had clearly stated that copper was obsolete for internet

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service. We contacted them and they promised us that they would be bringing fiber into Golden Shores and to the state they still have not. And I uh there I believe they're not being here today is an

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indication that they're not looking to move forward in the best interest of Golden Shores residents. >> Okay. Just want to clarify that's the u not the opinion of the city. It's one commissioner. So I want to be careful that we're not >> well >> saying anything about someone that's not here.

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>> So but I know firsthand what >> I get it and thank you for bringing this item. >> All right. So with no other items, we're adjourning until 6:30. Thank you everyone. >> Thank you.

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Okay, good evening everyone. Hello. >> It is 6:32. I'm calling the meeting to order. Mauricio, >> Commissioner Joseph >> present. >> Commissioner Styver >> here. >> Commissioner Lama here. >> Vice Mayor Viscara >> here. >> Mayor Sess here. >> All members present. Ma'am.

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>> Great. Thank you. If you could all please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Please be seated. We have an invocation from Rabbi Baron. >> Welcome. >> Hello. Good evening, everyone. It's good to see you. >> Hello.

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>> Dear God, master of the universe. We stand humbled before you this evening and we recognize all of your blessings that you have bestowed upon us. We're mindful of the fact that you have blessed this city with wonderful leadership, direction,

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dedication, and guiding spirit which has resulted in the many successful achievements over the years. We recognize that we are gathered before you this evening in pursuit of fulfilling your wishes as you dear God empowered humanity with seven basic

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universal laws after the great flood of Noah. These laws are once again reaffirmed by Moses at Mount Si to be taught to all of humanity. Universal laws that provide a framework of law and order and justice which will allow

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humanity to settle the earth in a civilized manner. We recognize that we have been entrusted by the citizens of Sunny Isles Beach to perform this sacred duty. Almighty God, please provide us with the consciousness

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to constantly be aware of your presence so that we are consistent to our mandate. Please grant us the courage, strength, wisdom, intuition, sensitivity, and the patience necessary to succeed so that we leave a leg legacy

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of having a positive impact upon society for many generations to come. Protect our police force, our servicemen and women serving domestically and overseas in the name of freedom and democracy. Please give them the peace of mind, insight, and intuition to be successful.

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granted with good health, peace of mind, and prosperity. And let us say, amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Rabbi. Thank you. So, the first item on tonight's agenda is the approval of minutes of the June Commission meeting.

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>> I'll take a motion, please. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Thank you. We'll now go into the mayor's opening message. >> Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We appreciate your attendance and thank you

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meetings that serve both the public and the city commission. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. >> Okay, before we get to the order of business, I just want to welcome everyone. It's always nice to have a full crowd here. So, thank you for for

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coming. For the regulars, hi. Um, and for those that are here for the first time, welcome. I hope you come often. Make it a regular. >> Please just >> We have rules of decorum here. So, we speak one at a time. If you wish to

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speak and then change your mind, that's okay. Just fill out a public speaker card now and then you could change your mind later and just say, "I I I don't I don't want to speak any longer." Uh but once the item is closed and public comment is closed, I will not be

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allowing public speakers. So uh you can go ahead and do that now. I'll I'll give you additional time if you need to. Also, if you need to have a conversation, please take it outside. The acoustics in this room provide for us to hear all of your conversations, even if you're whispering. So please um

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if you need to speak to someone, go outside. And um welcome. Thank you. Okay, mayor. We have uh two changes to tonight's agenda. Item 9G has been revised, which is a establishing the city's proposed advalorum tax millage

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rate, and we have added on item 9, which is a resolution approving a fifth amendment with IM Electric. Both amendments or both changes to the agenda are located in the back. >> Okay. So, both the agenda and the changes to the agenda are in the back. It doesn't change any of the item

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numbers except for the addition of the last one. >> No, it does not. >> And then the change for the mill is it is a date change. >> It's just the date. Yes. >> Okay. All right. Please go ahead. >> Just a approval. A motion to approve. >> I need a motion, please. >> Yes. I'll make a motion.

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>> I need a second. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> I All right. Please go on to um >> ordinance. So, ordinance for first reading 6A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach amending

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ordinance number 2025-635 approving budget amendment number BA2526-03 to the city's operating and capital improvement budget for the 20252026 fiscal year authorizing the city manager to do all things necessary to implement

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the terms and conditions of this ordinance provided for an effective Okay, Mr. City Manager, >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. This item is a budget amendment in the amount of 2,987568 to the citywide security project to

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support public safety initiatives, including the expansion of our drone program, installation of CCTV cameras at bus stops, and implementation of the realtime crime center, the hyperwall

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system. Okay, thank you. Do we have public speakers? >> Okay, >> Ken Percy. >> Hi, Ken. Just as a reminder, I know you've been here before, but for everyone else, your name and address for the record, and you will have three

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minutes once the clock starts. >> Good evening. My name is Ken Percy, 200 Sunny Als Boulevard. I just wanted to speak on the budget overall and the >> Ken, would you speak into the mic, please? >> I just wanted to speak on the budget

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overall and the uh line item for $175 million of um of new debt. Um last year the city manager >> and let me just interrupt you. This is this is uh a very specific item that we're talking about. >> Yeah, I read it as as this item.

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>> This is the safety one. >> Yeah. Is this further down the list? I'm sorry. Could you repeat that? >> You're speaking about the budget. We're not voting on the budget. >> Yeah. This is the an amendment to this fiscal year's budget. Not fiscal year. >> Exactly. >> This fiscal year. >> Yes.

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>> Not next fiscal year. This fiscal year. You're speaking about next fiscal year. >> Okay. >> This is for this one that's ending in the end of September. >> Okay. Then this is not relevant. >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> No other speakers. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, I'll take questions

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from the commission. Anyone have any questions or comments? All right. Um, >> I I do have a question though. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Tuisant. >> Yeah. Why are we What's going to be happen with the emergency pedestrian bridge? Not pedestrian emergency bridge

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because it's apparently being completely defunded with this. And as of it is right now in our budget book, it has high priority. It was supposed to be uh done by September this year. I know it

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depends a lot on the FPL, but uh if we proceed with this, we are completely basically cancelling the project. >> Is that to the city manager? >> Yeah, it would director, but she's not here. So I guess >> Mr. manager.

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>> We're still waiting for FPNL. We've been waiting a number of years. So, this allocates us money, but we will have money planned for the next budget year for the same thing, >> which is No, no, I understand. This is not adding or subtracting from the final

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number. It's just shuffling. And what I don't understand, I would like to have the clarification is why are we deciding to completely defund a program that was supposed to be high priority? uh that we still need to do that we have an ement with selling house for it. We could be

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getting that from any other account like let's say for example land acquisition that we have still $4 million there. So um this is the thing about the budget that it always makes me uncomfortable that we are just shuffling numbers u between lines um like there is no

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consequence in this specific case. We are completely defunding the program if we take this money. And by the way, I am completely for the uh drone program and anything else that have to be with safety and security. But I think this

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amendment uh the way it is written and the way we are defunding certain other programs um doesn't I don't think we have enough information or for uh to vote on this at this point. >> Okay. Thank you. Mayor, could I ask the

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deputy city manager? >> Of course. >> Um, just to refresh your memory at the budget workshop a couple weeks ago, two weeks ago today, um, it was the consensus at that meeting to remove the emergency pedestrian bridge from the budget because you said the CIP because

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you said we've been carrying it for all these years without any success. So, we were directed at that meeting at consensus to remove it. So that was in our one of the changes that would be coming forth in the final budget. >> Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Llama.

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>> Uh what was the last communication from FPL regarding this? >> They have had um numerous staff changes and currently they have no one assigned to that project. >> So right now it's a big question. >> It is a big question mark. Yes.

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>> Okay. Okay. They have no design. They have no plan. >> Um, when our consultant left, they were still reworking a new plan. >> And that person is now gone, not just our consultant, the person that was working on their project.

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>> Is there anyone else we could talk to? >> We've we've spoken to several people. Right now, their priorities are the Golden Shores undergrounding and some other projects in the city to finish. Actually, still the Collins Avenue undergrounding is still incomplete. Um

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and those are their priorities right now. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh I mean it's take getting taken off from this budget 2526 but it's still going to be I mean the the next year's budget is fast

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approaching so it's it's going to be there. No, based on the budget workshop, >> the direction that we heard was to remove it because we've been carrying it and once we finally have a plan with FPL, we would bring it back. >> Okay. So the question is let's say in

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November of next year november of this year next next year's budget we have someone from FPL we will have to have a budget amendment or can we pull that million dollars from another account or from the general fund or what

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what how can we >> if we were fortunate enough to have a solution in this November um the design alone would probably take at least a year design and permitting. >> Yeah.

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>> Um at which time then we can propose it in the following year's budget. >> So we're looking at 2829 >> most likely. Yes. >> In addition, we have no idea what that would even cost at this point. >> Wait, hold on a second please. >> I'm trying to understand the situation.

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The funding that has been carried in there for the last five or more years, six years, is what was left in the project. There was never an estimate of how much that would actually have cost to have done. >> So there was never that million dollars is not like an updated estimate.

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>> It is not. It is literally just the amount of funding that was left that has been carried over year after year, which is why I understand someone suggested that we remove it because we keep carrying it without getting the work done. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> And we don't have a solution to that on the horizon. >> Yeah. To be honest with you, I'm I'm not too worried about the money. I mean, I'm more concerned with the FPL side of this equation and not them not getting back to us. So, okay. >> All right. Uh once one second, Commissioner Joseph, just for for since

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we do have an audience, what we're talking about is we had a budget workshop and one of the things that we came to consensus about was any items that have been on the books for years that have not been started to take them off the books so that it doesn't look like an inflated budget. So,

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Commissioner Joseph, you have the floor. >> Yes. But okay, the budget issue is one thing, but pursuing we need squeaky wheel. We need a squeaky wheel to get FPL going. We can't just let let it ride and

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because they're happy to go do other projects and not complete our projects. It's the same thing like I've been yelling about internet in Golden Shores and today we had a great workshop which is going to solve issues for

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residents. We need we need someone. It's not me. I'm not in authority. Someone in the city manager's office, assistant city manager to pursue FPL and not let them off the hook. >> Okay, Mr. City Manager,

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>> I don't have anything to add. We've been in discussions with FPNL for years. There's nothing further for us to do. >> All right. Vice Mayor, did you want to add anything? All right. I have some questions for clarification. As far as the bus stops, we talked about this during the agenda review. It was the 22

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of the bus stops were going to get TV um cameras. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, that means that whomever is at the bus stop at that time is going to be seen live from the police department and we keep that footage for 30 days as far

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as I understand. >> That is correct. >> All right. And then this also includes the camera at the pier. >> No, the camera at the pier is funded through your general operating. Okay. >> It's a separate item. >> All right. This is also for the real time crime center in the police department. >> All right, perfect. And then what's the

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timing on this once this gets approved? >> Well, this requires a second reading. >> Um and then after that at the same meeting in August, if it gets approved, we'll bring uh the contract for the bus stop cameras and the real time crime center at that time.

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>> So, if I did the math, we would we can anticipate having cameras at the bus stop in November. Yes. Novemberish. Okay. >> I have a question. >> Um, Commissioner Stew, anything had something? >> No, no, you can go. >> Go ahead.

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>> So, the connecting of cameras to the bus stops, is that a similar situation to connecting cameras to our elevators, which took forever, or no, that's >> a simpler issue. >> Completely different. >> Okay. So, this is a much more quick

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process. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Commissioner Tusson, do you have something? >> Yeah. Um, in the budget right now, we have over $34 million in appropriations, but they were not used at all last year or until this

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year. Like again, we are shuffling between accounts because those allocations are not uh money that we have or spend at all. So that was part of my conversations about the budget that we need to make sure that the

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numbers had to make sense. We have a budget of $240 million or so when we are just bringing to the bank around 70 plus million dollars. So everything else in this zip which is the capital

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improvement program fund um is just like a big wish list and that's the thing that is a little bit uncomfortable about being shuffling right now. We could take that money instead of completely cancelling a program that we are going to have to do at some point because for

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all we know FPL can come tomorrow and say yeah I'm ready. So right now we have no idea and we do have an ement with a property of Sony that give us a specific area to be doing in putting that kind of u all that electric uh construction that

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needs to be done there. So we are right now working on the budget doing the budget this I think takes the budget conversation to another level. It has to be more serious. Uh I know that that money those contracts they need to come to us as soon as possible. uh only for

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that I'm okay with what is necessary to make it happen but we need to take the budget process more serious. It's not just about changing numbers from here to there that they don't even have a real source of revenue attached to it.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Um I'll take a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> I need a second. >> I'll second. >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. Commissioner Styson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes.

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>> Mayor Spetchin, >> yes. >> The ordinance is approved on first reading. Second reading is scheduled for August. >> Okay. Ordinances for second reading. 8A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunnyal Beach speech, Florida, amending chapter 256 of

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the code of ordinances of the city of Sunnyal speech, article 5, section 256-37 entitled definitions, rules, and regulations for operation. section 233-8 entitled penalties for offenses and

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section 256-39 entitled enforcement to create and provide regulations for the use of electric bicycles within the city's jurisdiction providing for repealer serability codification and an effective date and this is second and final reading

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>> okay Mr. City Manager, is this you? >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is the second reading of our revised ebike ordinance. >> Okay. Thank you. And for the public, just so you understand, we have um made

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changes to first the uh scooters. So, anyone under 16 is not allowed to ride an electric scooter. And now we made changes to the ebikes. Um as well, in the interest of uh safety, obviously. Uh do we have any public speakers? Yes. >> Okay.

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>> David Virgil. >> Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commission. My name is David Virgil. My address is 17500 North Bay Road, Sunis Beach. I believe that the passage of this ordinance along with the scooter ordinance that was passed earlier this

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year are essential to improve pedestrian safety in the city. By banning electric bikes from sidewalks, it will help uh prevent serious accidents from occurring and that will improve the quality of life of everyone here in the city. So

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that's why I'm for the passage of this ordinance. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No other speakers, ma'am. >> All right. Um public comment is closed. If I can just get some clarification, are we going to have the same sort of education period with this ordinance

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>> or is it immediate? >> Yes. So 60 days >> already started. >> No. Um 30 days >> 30 days from today. >> Yes ma'am. >> So >> August August 16th I believe is the day in which uh citations would be issued >> warnings and then after that

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>> citations >> citations are 250. >> Yes ma'am. >> And then the second citation >> 500. >> 500. Okay. Right. >> Are there any questions from the commission? >> No. >> Take a motion please. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second.

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Okay, thank you. >> Mauricio, >> Commissioner Cyson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Commissioner Llama, >> yes. >> Mayor Fetchin, >> yes. >> The ordinance is adopted. All

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>> right. Now, on to resolutions. 9A is a resolution approving a use and occupancy agreement and addendum there too with the Florida Department of Transportation for public parking and other public purposes on parcel number 7756 located at 500 Sunny Boulevard

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mayor vice mayor commission um these are the items that were deferred from last month because we were missing exhibit B. Exhibit B has been included in both of these items for clarification. Um the first item 9A parcel 7756

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is what our original agreement with FOT was which is both paid for public parking and a green open space. Um it is FDOT's desire to separate out what is a revenue generating parcel from a

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non-revenue generating parcel. So the open green space will now be 7756. The public parking will now be what is item B, which is parcel number 3129. That parcel will also include the ramp

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area, the under ramp area that is to the east of the existing paid >> which is currently grass. >> It's currently gravel. >> Okay. Well, come Yes. 3129. >> I meant it's not gravel, right? >> It's nothing right now. It was a storage area for our Collins Avenue

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undergrounding street lighting project. There's still some remnants of that there that we have to remove. Um if at a later date the commission so desires, the ability is built into these agreements to either um subleasase

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the portion of 7756 and also to build out the more parking in 3129. So exhibit B's shows what it could be. Exhibit A is showing what's existing. >> Okay. Thank you. Do we have public speakers?

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>> We do. >> Okay. >> Alexander Ker. >> Good evening, Mayor, commissioners. Nice to see you all. Thank you for gathering here tonight. speaking in the support of this much needed additional parking

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capacity for the community at large. I know last month it was called the rabbi's parking. It's not the rabbi's parking. It's a parking for all residents under the bridge. And um I think our city is growing, continues to grow, thank God. And I think we all know

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that we are in a need of more parking citywide. and I hope is not that significant few spots that we will add. This is seemingly but it was it will alleviate the current need and I think

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everybody will benefit from it. The congregation of course that I represent, the restaurant next door, the marina next door, all of the vendors that come to 400 Sunny Isles because they do not park, they choose not to park at the valet at 400. So if anything this is

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will continue this will continue to generate additional revenue to the city to the FDOT and it will alleviate the much much needed uh problem that we have and I hope in the future um and I continue to speak about it with FDOT and

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with some people even in Teleahassee that hopefully we'll find more creative ways to create even more parking in this part of the city and hopefully citywide. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. 403 point drive. Thank you.

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>> Ellen Dustan, >> is it Ellen? >> Yeah, she just said no. >> Oh, all right. >> Felix Sukovski. >> And again, I just want to remind you all I do and we all very very much appreciate you all being here, but please no clapping. Thank you. All

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right. Your name and address for the record, please. Uh, Felix Suhavitzki living 18625 Atlantic Boulevard just down the street. Thank you for opportunity. You need me to speak. Um, I'm going to read it

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because I'm afraid to stumble. It's a bit of emotional issue to me. So, be patient with me. Okay. So, this is something I wrote. Uh, house of worship is more than a building. It's a refuge for lonely,

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source of hope for struggling, place of healing for grieving, and a center for community and families. Throughout history, societies have been judged not only by how they treated the powerful, but how they treated those seeking

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spiritual comfort, guidance, and connection with God. Providing adequate parking for a place of worship is not merely a matter of convenience. It's a matter of access. Every parking space represents a person

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who may be coming to pray for a sick child, mourn for a loved one, celebrate wedding, seek forgiveness, simplify the place in the troubled world. When access of worship is restricted,

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burden falls heavily and only on elderly. the disabled, parents with young children and those who whose face was already challenged by otherwise difficult difficulties. History provides provides us with a

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powerful examples of both benefits of support religious gatherings places and the consequences of obstructing them. Throughout centuries, striving community grew around

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houses of worship. temples and welcoming welcoming people openly removing barriers to participants. Those institutions became centers of charity, education, social support, moral guidance.

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They fed hungry, sheltered, vulnerable, united people across economic social divisions. Conversely, history also records darker periods when authorities imposed obstacles on

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religious practice, whether through restrictive laws, inaccessible locations, executive burdens, deliberate limitations and gatherings. There is always often isolation, division, and hardship.

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Communities weakened when people are prevented from from assembling freely on the worship fellowship mutual support. Denial of practical access to worship has frequently been remembered as a stain on

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the otherwise prosperous societies. Just a minute please >> just finish your your thought please. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Uh the parking shortage may seem like insignificant

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when viewed on the paper but is in the real world impact is profound. Senior citizen who cannot walk long distance may miss service entirely. Family with a small children may stop attending. Disabled veteran may find participation

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impossible over time. individuals individual obstacles accumulate reducing attendance weakening communities bonds uh dismissing positive role face institutions play in society

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places of worship generate benefits far beyond uh their own congregations. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Time's up. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> No other speakers. >> Okay. I'll take comments or questions from the commission.

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>> No. >> None. >> No question. >> I'll take a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Next item. >> 9B is a resolution approving a use and occupancy agreement and addendum thereto

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with the Florida Department of Transportation for parcel number 3129 located at 500 Sun Boulevard. >> Go ahead. That was the second part of Okay. Do we have any public speakers? >> We do, but I'm not sure if if I call

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your name, just let us know if you wish to speak. >> Alexander Keller. >> Good. >> Okay. >> Okay. That's it. >> That's it. All right. Uh any questions from the commission? >> Okay.

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I um I I know that uh the rabbi's uh synagogue, he has uh rentals from the city at gateway on the uh rooftop. Um I was questioning whether there are

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any other spots that are available to increase the number of spots that the rabbi could could lease. as additional parking. >> Are you asking the city manager? >> I'm asking the city manager. Yes. Can >> you at Gateway? Are there additional parking spaces

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>> at Gateway? Yes. Are there additional spots that can be leased? >> We've had discussions with Rabbi and are working with them to find any available parking in the area. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. I'll take a motion.

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>> Motion. >> Need a second. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay, item passes. Uh 9C. >> 9. >> We're going to go on. If if you all want to stay, please go ahead and stay. But I think the item that you all came for is

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done, but please stay if you want to. I'm not This is going to be an a very interesting meeting. I shouldn't have said anything. Thank you. >> Please come more often. >> I'll just give it a >> nice to give it a minute to

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>> All right. Uh, >> thank you. >> Thank you everyone. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> 9 C, please. 9 is a resolution approving an agreement with Millennium Products to

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install surveillance and security equipment at Pier Park. >> All right, Mr. City Manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is a the installation of a long range camera at Pier Park that

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the police department is requesting and goes in handinhand with our citywide security. >> Okay. >> No speakers. >> No speakers. All right, I'll take questions from the commission or comments. >> No question. >> I'll take a motion.

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>> I have a question. What does the funding comes from the general fund and not from for future funds or anything else? >> Um, it was in the current fiscal year's capital outlay request that you approved

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last budget cycle. >> So, it's already appropriated there. >> Yes. So we have the >> in the capital outlay in the police department's general fund >> and I also have the question why don't we invite the the companies that are going to be

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awarded this contracts which and it's going to come to the next contract as well to just come here and at least be present in case that we have any questions about the product because for example I'm I'm okay with this and I will make a motion to approve it. Uh,

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like I said, safety and security is always and I believe and I hope it will continue always being our priority. But we have here $30,000 for the product more or less and $30,000 for installation more or less. Um, it is

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very interesting that we are paying almost the same amount for the product that for the installation. So I would rather have here one representative of the company to uh be able to answer certain questions unless it is so predetermined that we are going to be

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voting yes for it that they don't even believe that they have to be here because once it's in the book and is a recommendation is a yes by default. So I think it's a little bit offensive not to have a representative of the company who's going to be awarded this kind of

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money even present here. >> Okay. Are you making a motion? >> All right. I need a second. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Next item, please. >> But that was a question

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>> actually before we go to the next item. >> Okay. Can you clarify your question again? >> Yes. Why don't we make the people that is going to be awarded this or at least a request of a requirement to come here to be answering questions that we may or may not have before we are awarding this

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kind of contracts to them. That should be at least a courtesy because if any person is going to be getting awarded millions of dollars, the least thing they can or they should be doing is being here and presenting their faces on basis

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>> unless like I said it's so predetermined that this is going to be a just by default and we are just sitting down here to rubber stamp whatever is in this book uh because there is um chance the people that is not even reading the agenda uh that they don't even have the

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need to come here. That's what I'm saying. It is offensive not to have a representative of a company who's being awarded a contract that is coming from the people's money because this is not our money. This is taxpayers money and

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we don't have anyone from that company sitting here at least saying I have a good product. I want to be your client. Please approve this contract. >> No need. >> Okay. Your your um offense is noted. uh question. That's I asked a question.

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>> I'm not finished. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So to the deputy manager and and perhaps maybe it's to the attorney. What is our normal process when we are approving contracts? Is it typical to have vendors come in front of a commission to be

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grilled about the items on the contract that's being submitted or the proposal? I mean depends on the jurisdiction, depends on the contract, it depends on the procurement. Uh to have every single contractor that you're entering into

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contracts with the period meetings is probably unrealistic. I haven't seen that >> depending on the contract. Obviously, if if you're contracting with Waste Management for, you know, $50 million or uh you have a contract that's going to

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be substantial in that type of thing, especially if it's been uh put out to bid, it's not unusual to have those contractors here, but um to require every contract person to be here, that that would be pretty obvious. >> Okay. So, just one second. I just want

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to get clarification. So, Commissioner Stuison, your question is noted. Did you ask the manager this question and he did not answer it? Is that why you want the vendor here? >> Question before. >> It's just it's being the practice of not having the contractors in here that or

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the vendors in here. I remember when I was just elected, we used to have many of those vendors here uh and they will just sit down there in case that we need to ask them certain questions that has disappeared during your administration and I don't think that's best practices.

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So I think this should be changing. >> Okay. Thank you. I don't make any sort of changes by myself here. We we vote as a body. But go ahead, Commissioner Joseph. >> And I if I may just add that I mean I answered it just based on my travels in government, but it's not a legal question. Obviously if you want them

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here they can be here, but >> you can ask them, >> right? But it's not a legal question. But to the point of uh the suggestion that some people are not reading the agenda book, if you are reading the agenda book, you do have an opportunity to ask those questions before the meeting and if there is a need to

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request a vendor to be here during the meeting. That is something that I don't think that the manager's office would be against if this was something that was the consensus of the commission. Is that correct, Mr. City Manager? >> Yes, correct. I mean, we have a we have

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a workshop prior to the meeting and the typical course of business for me is I rely on our department directors uh who are the subject matter experts and I require them to fully vet the items and

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in this case it would be the chief of the police. I've met with the chief, the deputy chief, uh, city attorney and city manager, I'm sorry, deputy city manager, city attorney, and we've vetted the items for us to have every vendor here

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uh, in the evening, it >> we would have to extend our meeting every time, which if that's the will of the commission, >> but it's not efficient or effective. But if during the agenda review if a member of the commission felt strongly that they wanted a me the vendor here for the

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commission meeting and there was consensus would that be possible? >> Yes. >> Do we need a consensus for that? Because for example the I'm going to bring the same uh comment twice more during this agenda. So um I don't think we need a

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consensus for that if we want to have the vendor present to ask them certain questions. I agree. I think one commissioner's questioning should be enough. >> It would be a policy decision of the

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board as a group. So I don't take direction from one of you versus you all as a body. >> So if that's not the way it's written in your contract, by the way, >> then that's how we directed. >> Okay. >> I don't I we're getting off topic. Now I understand that's I just want to add

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mayor one more thing. I want to add one more thing. You all are welcome to vote yes or no for the item. Okay? >> So if you feel that there's more information needed, you're welcome to vote no. If we delay these items, then it's going to affect in this case our

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our public safety protocol which the commission has given me as a direction. So I'd recommend against that. >> Okay. Thank you. We're going to move on. >> Okay. No, I have one one uh >> can we stick to the items on the agenda? I'm sticking to the um the question

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regarding whether we should be able to question vendors. >> Okay. But that's not in the agenda. >> Well, I understand, but that came up and it requires uh a fuller understanding. I remember we had we were replacing turf at Pelican

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and we had a vendor come up and I had questioned the uh chemical composition of the material and he told us one thing. it turned out to be incorrect and they then changed materials or he said

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that during COVID the material was changed that they were supplying to us. I never actually ended up getting a fair resolution as to what the composition was but that turf ended up being installed in any event.

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>> Okay, thank you. Uh, next item, Mauricio >> 9D is a resolution approving an agreement with Axon Enterprises. >> We didn't. >> We voted. >> We did. >> We voted. Yes, we did. >> We did. We did. >> We voted. >> There was a motion by Commissioner Cyverson and seconded by Commissioner

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Joseph. >> No. >> Yes. >> Okay. 90 is a resolution approving an agreement with Axon Enterprises for the purchase, deployment, training, software, licensing, maintenance, and support of a drone as a first responder to fixedwing drone system utilizing the

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SkyO F10 platform. >> City manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is a fixedwing drone for the police department. We have had great success with our drone program. This is cutting edge technology. I've

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had numerous meetings with the police chief, deputy chief, city attorney, deputy city manager confirming that this is a uh something we definitely recommend. >> Okay. And just for clarification, would

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these drones also be able to drop those uh life vests? Those the same kind of drones just before we get to public comment. These >> these are different. >> Okay, we'll get to it then. >> Which does free up the other ones, too, because right now we're only using one

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for the water rescue. >> For the water. All right. Do we have public speakers? >> Yes, ma'am. Steven Hirs. >> Steven Hirs 17201 Collins. Good evening. >> If you could just be close to the microphone, please. Thank you. the um drone as a first responder

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program um is the 21st century of what the old police helicopters used to be. Um the safety that it will provide our city is um almost invaluable. It'll provide

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safety for our police officers, our fire department, all first service uh responders. It will be available for any type of incidents out on the beach or out on the

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ocean if necessary. And I did a little calculation which I find very informative. If um an emergency call were to come in at the furthest southern border of our city

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upon since it's an autonomous uh vehicle, it could be launched and it would take approximately 72 seconds to get from the roof of this building to our city limit. And of course, it would

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be less the closer it would be. it would immediately be able to broadcast video to our police officers um and see what the situation is and if it's something that is possibly unfounded

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be able to give a slowdown that put our responding officers that have nightmares going up and down Collins Avenue when the traffic is you know this time of the year if it was like this all the time we we'd be great but it's not so uh I just

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support this 100% and I think that the uh value that it gives needs to really be publicized to our residents so they really understand the ability that this

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type of u fixed wing drone and it can stay stationary for I I forget the statist the the time but substantially longer than the ones we So, um, thank you. >> Thank you. Any other speakers?

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>> Yes. Vitali Falovich. >> My name is Fakovich, 9280 Southwest 167 Bay, Florida. One of the things is that the big issue that we have in the United States right now is the officer safety. We have officers getting shot for no reason. They're getting shot because

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they're wearing a badge. they weren't getting shot because they decided to leave their family to protect somebody else. This thing will prevent for officers getting hurt. I think it's a really great idea for us to have that equipment. As a visitor here, I think I spend more time in San Beach than I

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spend in Pomemeta Bay and I think that's a great idea and I ask that you approve that. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> No other speakers. >> Okay. Thank you. Um I'll take any questions from the commission. No, I I just want to get clarification.

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This goes This is the one that we discussed that the agenda review is going 90 miles an hour, up to 90 miles an hour. >> And if once this is approved, how long will it take for us to get this drone? >> This is a future purchase. We're looking

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at 2028 before it's actually marketable. Be anytime before that. >> So, can you clarify why we'd be voting on it right now then? um because it is in high demand and the sooner you get your name on the list, the sooner you will have access to this equipment.

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Otherwise, you're going to be >> a couple years down the road. >> Do we lock in the cost? >> Yes. You're also saving $900,000. >> Okay. And so, but let's just I'm going to play devil's advocate. in 28 uh for

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future commissions. If they choose not to purchase this, that could still happen. >> Yes. >> Or no, because you're saying we're locked in. So, >> you're locking in the price, but there is a clause, section 16.2, I believe, in the master service agreement that allows

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you to um terminate the contract if this current if the current commission does not appropriate the funds. >> Okay. Thank you. It's a question. Wait, >> we can step out of line. like we're getting in line and later we can step out of line. Yes. Okay. >> I have one question. >> Go ahead, Commissioner Joseph.

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>> So, this um model that we're purchasing now for 1.8 million in 2026, but is not being delivered till 2028, how many revisions will this company have gone through

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before we actually receive the model? >> I believe we are in line to be one of the first 10 to get it. So it's not like they have a model now that we're not getting. They are still working on producing the model for sale which will

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occur. We will be >> within the top 10 to receive. >> I understand. But drone technology these days is advancing so fast. >> Correct. >> That we're buying a model in 2026 >> that it could be out it's outdated maybe

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next week. You're buy you're buying the model when it's ready. So, it will be the most cutting edge at that moment. >> We're buying the 2028 model >> and it's also two. I just want to clear up for the record.

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>> Mhm. >> Um, are you done? >> I have a question. >> I sent a memo through the city manager this morning to be shared with the commission. Was my memo shared with the commission about this specific item? Uh, no commissioner. It wasn't shared with

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them. We didn't receive it in time. We had some things to do in the morning that I didn't get a chance to to forward it, but I will forward it to them this evening. >> Okay. It was really important to be chair when I send it. Um, otherwise I will have make copies here and give it to them right now, you know. So, that

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was the idea for them to see it before because again, I'm going to make a motion for this item. I'm totally in favor of the item. However, um I did read the all the documents in the package and for example, as far as what I understand, I'm not a lawyer. Um the

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price seems that it's provisional. The product is under development, is not being developed just yet. Um the delivery date is not guarantee. um the data has to be shared with them. It's one of the terms on the contract

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and the terms of the contract are has to be locked to whatever the terms of their own contract it is and their terms and conditions and it was a website like an URL that will take you to which is means it can change. So um I went a little bit

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deep into this because I especially the the price tag um I had a conversation also with the body chief about that today and like I said I am in support of this however the same question that I had or comment I have before we don't even have a representative of the

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company being here to be able to answer those questions for like I said we are approving right now $1.8 8 plus million dollars for a future commission that is going to be here in 2028 for a product that doesn't exist yet that is

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development with a price that is not a fix. So it's a lot of if so um I understand we want to be in line the quote is valid until December. So this is maybe we sense some kind of urgency

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to get into the la the list right now. However, we could have better qu better answers if we have a representative of the company here. But like I said before, $2 million and nobody even had the courtesy of being here to answer questions. But I do approve or I I will

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make a motion to approve this item. >> Okay. Before I take your motion, Commissioner Lama, do you have anything to add? >> No. >> Okay. I need a second for Commissioner. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Next item, please. 9E is a resolution approving a second

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amendment to the agreement with Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company as a primary awardee to provide fleet maintenance and repair services to group one vehicles. Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is our second amendment

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with Goodyear Tire and Rubber and they provide fleet maintenance to our fleet vehicles, oil changes, um change of tires, batteries, things like that. >> Okay. Thank you, Mara. Do we have any public speakers?

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>> No speakers. >> You sure? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. Um go ahead, Commissioner Joseph. I just want to uh make a note that when we buy a set of tires, the purchase the person that's at the at

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Goodyear, they know how to look for the um the uh year number on the tires so that we know we're getting fresh tires. >> Yes. Okay. That was

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not an unexpected answer. >> Okay. Do you have any other questions? >> No. >> All right. I'll take a motion. >> Um I just wanted to to one clarification. There are no more renewals after this one. Correct. So next time it has to be bed again.

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Yeah. I just wanted to put that on the record. Okay. So next time I have to go out and in bed. Okay. >> Yes. I just want that commitment. >> Okay, there's no more questions. I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Motion. Second. >> All in favor? I.

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>> Right. >> Next item, please. >> 9F is a resolution allowing the mayor and commissioners at each elected officials sole choice and option to enroll and participate in and receive the same insurance benefits as is

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available to city's regular employees. >> Okay. Mr. City manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, we discussed this at the last meeting and you provided direction that we should come back with maintaining status quo and that's it.

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This is how it currently exists. It's been this way for some time. We could not find any documentation formally having a resolution or formalizing it. So this will formalize your existing benefits being the same as

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the city employees. >> Okay. So formalizing what's already in in place. >> Yes. >> All right. Yes. Are there any public speakers? Mauricio, >> there is. Dana Goldman. >> Okay. >> Dana Goldman 308 Island Drive, Sunny Al

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Beach, Florida 33160. just want to express my support for this, which is essentially a cotification of existing and long-standing practice. I would have obviously preferred for this to be more expansive, but I understand the will of the current commission um to have this.

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So, I'm in support of this resolution. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Are there any questions from the commission? I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. 9G, please. 9G is a

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resolution establishing the city of San Beach proposed advalorum tax mill levy rate at 1.6514 mills per $1,000 of taxable assessed value which is equal to the roll back rate of 1.6514

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mills for fiscal year 2026 2027 >> Mr. City Manager, >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. This establishes our proposed ad valorum tax millage rate at 1.6514

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mills per thousand and is the same as the roll back rate. As you know, for the past many years, we have essentially lowered taxes. like to point out that our city has the lowest taxes in all of Date and Broward County

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as well >> and Monroe. >> And Monroe. Thank you. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> We do. Steven Hirs. >> Hi, >> Stephen Hirs. 17201 Collins.

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Last year, um, I spoke a couple times, uh, before this body regarding the implementation of performance-based budgeting for our city. Excuse me. Uh, newly adopted Florida Senate Bill 4F establishes

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minimum millage rates that cities may impose unless a super majority commission vote of 2/3 or unanimous depending on the percentage of the raise approve or through public referendum.

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Additionally, for next year's budget, cities must conduct public workshops and perform 10% budget reduction exercises and must be fully transparent to the voters, which may further reduce

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revenue. This makes the adoption of performance-based budgeting more important than ever as millage rate limitations in addition to the possible homestead exemption. if amendment three passes in November

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will be a direct impact on our city. A traditional line item budget tells us how much money each department spends. A performance-based budget tells the taxpayers what they're receiving in return. It identifies the purpose of

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each program, the services being delivered, the measurable results expected, the cost of proactively producing those results, and whether those results are actually being achieved. When expenses exceed revenues, a city

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without performance information is often forced to make broad across the board reductions. For example, a 5% reduction applied equally to every department may sound fair, >> but it is completely against solid

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public policy. It treats an essential and effective program the same way as a lower priority or poorly performing program. A performance-based budget allows the commission to distinguish between essential services, successful

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programs, unperforming programs, and discretionary programs. Reductions may be identified that do not impact the residents safety, quality of life, and financial interests. The city may have less flexibility to

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raise revenue in the future. It must therefore develop a better method for deciding where every tax dollar produces the greatest value. A performance-based budget gives the commission and city manager that method and provides a

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transparent, measurable, and defensible basis making difficult budget decisions when reductions become necessary. The new millage rate therefore should be viewed not only as a tax limitation. It should

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be viewed as a mandate for better fiscal budgeting. I suggest consideration of performance-based budgeting be adopted during the ongoing preparation of our 2026 27 budget. This will place us in a

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better planning position to address any f future reductions that our city may face in the coming year. Thank you for allowing me to speak. >> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No other speakers. >> All right. I'll take comments or questions to the commission.

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>> Mayor, I'm sorry if I may interrupt really quickly and I can add something to the city manager's introduction. This item, if you recall, was revised at the beginning of the meeting and it's just to change the dates of the first and second hearings, which will be on the 8th and the 15th, respectively. Both at

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5:30. >> Both at 5:30. >> September. >> September. Yes. >> Okay. Questions from the commission? >> No. >> I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Need a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Next item, please. >> I'm a no.

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>> What? You're a no. >> I'm a no. >> Okay. Please note that >> noted for the record. >> Okay. >> 9H is a resolution approving the issuance of a proclamation proclaiming the month of September 2026 as hunger action month in the city of Saniel

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speech authorizing the mayor to issue the proclamation. >> Um, will you read the proclamation please? >> Um, one second. And just uh for the record, this proclamation request came to all of us and we are all um

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co-sponsors on this for hunger month, hunger action month. >> The proclamation reads, "Whereas since 1981, Feeding South Florida has worked to address hunger and food insecurity in the city of San Beach by providing our community with immediate access to

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nutritious food and other vital resources and support. And whereas in South Florida, approximately 1 million individuals face hunger. And whereas Feeding South Florida leads hunger and poverty advocacy efforts in our community while transforming lives through innovative programming and

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education that provides economic growth and overall well-being. Whereas the city is therefore committed to supporting feeding South Florida so that together we can achieve a hunger-free South Florida. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Um and and for anyone in the

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audience who are watching this, this is uh very serious for many people in our community. If you are experiencing um any issues getting food, we have the St. Vincent Depal Society that's with uh adjacent to Mary Magdalene Church that provides food. They have a pantry. I

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believe they're open on Tuesdays and you can also um contact the um kosher kitchen which also has food and Mary Magdalene also has kosher items as well. Um, so do are there any comments from the commission? >> No. >> I'll take a motion, please. >> Motion.

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>> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. 9 I. >> 9 I is a resolution approving a fifth amendment to the agreement with IM Electric for street lighting, preventive maintenance, and as needed electrical services.

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>> Okay. Mr. City Manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This item came up last month and there was um we got off topic. Therefore, item was not heard.

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>> Move your microphone. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> So, the unintended consequences of not approving the item caused the work that we were doing in Golden Shores regarding the undergrounding to stop. So, in our conversations with FPNL, um, and we

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heard some of this early in the meeting, we don't want them to leave the site. It would further delay our undergrounding. So, we're recommending approval and for to move forward and we need a

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>> Oh, okay. That's it. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. I'll take any comments or questions from the commission. All right. I'll take a motion. >> I do I do have comments. >> Go ahead. >> This is the fifth amendment. This

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contract was originally for $120,000. Now it's 1.2. That's a,000% more that it was contracted for. So at what point a contract um another amendment doesn't just become a new procurement. We are

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now beating this. And I'm going to say the numbers again. Originally a year ago, it was a I'm sorry, January 2024, two years ago, we contract this for 120,000. Right now, with this new amendment, it's going to 120

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to$229,000 over 1,000%. Like I said, um no being nobody's being allowed to compete for this. We are basically giving it to somebody who just gave us a contract originally for one small portion of the

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total that we are giving. And that's my problem right now. We should be doing a new bet for this contract and I just giving it to the same person over and over again. And that same person or that company is not even here to clarify nothing. I been against not beating for

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this contract. So I'm totally a no for this. >> Okay. Thank you. Mr. City Manager, just for the record, could you please expand on the the change in the contract? I see in the whereas clauses, there is some level of detail every time that we made

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an amendment to the contract because the scope changed, but can you clarify for this vote what is included in the scope, please? >> Yes. So, I'll ask a deputy s manager to fill in, please. >> Um, there's actually been several projects that were brought before you.

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Um, we did we have continued to use this vendor because we did go out to bid. Their hourly rates were $43 an hour opposed to the second lowest bidder at $120 per hour. So to use and we actually did try to contract with the second

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lowest bidder um and they refused to sign our contract as a second. So we have had this primary contractor. >> Okay. Since then, we added the um all the lights change out at Heritage Park. We had to the big ticket item was um

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completing our uh closing our contract with the previous um contractor for the Golden Shores Undergrounding. That's the big ticket item. Um and to go out to bid would have delayed that project at least another six months. >> All right. Thank you. Are there any other questions from the commission?

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>> I have a question. >> Wait one second. Let Commissioner Joseph go and then you can go. So, I'd like to ask um regarding the Golden Shores project, who is responsible now for removing the old light poles. >> FPL removes the light poles. >> That's FPL. >> Yes.

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>> So, that's we have to they'll get around to it whenever they can. Is that it? >> They will not do it until all homes are connected. >> Okay. So, we have one house that has an issue that I'd like to address tonight.

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That's um Galina. You know, you're going to tell me it's >> Mayor Lawsuit involved. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Commissioner Joseph, >> I wouldn't discuss it because she's there's a long history to it, but she's hired council. So, it's between council at this point,

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>> so we really shouldn't discuss it. >> All right, Commissioner Joseph. >> But this one house is holding up the entire project then, correct? >> We can't discuss it. >> Okay. Well, we can discuss the fact whether >> the project can't be completed and we

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can't move forward to have other things done until the city settles on this issue that I'm >> mayor >> aware of. Excuse me. >> Let the I'm working with council currently to resolve the situation. In fact, she contacted me today and I I

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have to wait to respond to her knowing what was going to happen this evening because we couldn't move forward because we had no funding. >> Right. So, um, I'm working with council to try to resolve it and, uh, hopefully that will come to a resolution quickly. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yes. And it's to the city's best

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interest in the city's best interest to settle this because from what I know of it, we're not in the right. >> Okay. >> Mayor, I'm sorry, mayor. I'm sorry. We can't. That's that's incorrect. Categorically false.

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>> Right. So, first of all, the dispute only deals with the methodology of how the wires will actually be connected. There's uh >> Okay. Um >> I know I know but >> All right. H how about >> I just need to make clear that

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>> please go ahead and then we'll >> city is >> I'll just leave it at the fact that that's an incorrect statement. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Um Commissioner Stewen, if we could just uh if you want to add something that's not related to that. No, it's not related.

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So since November 2023 when we awarded this contract which it was for preventive maintenance service like nobody like there is now the contractor that want to give us a price on entering

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a contract per hour with us. This almost three years. So this is the only company that is looking forward to provide electrical service to the city. >> That's exactly what kind of of that's I

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want clarification about that. >> What what's the question? >> Okay. Since November 2023, >> according to what I just heard, other companies have been also uh provided opportunity to give us a price or

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entering a contract with us. Nobody else has any intention or interest in being an electrical contractor for the city. >> Okay. The city issued bid number 23-11-01 for street lighting prevent preventative maintenance and as needed electrical

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services. Right. We awarded that contract. We um when we awarded that contract, we had a primary and a secondary. The secondary was R&D Electric. They never signed our contract because they did not want to be second. Their prices were

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more, but we wanted to enter into an agreement with them so we'd have a backup just in case. Since that time, we have not pursued other bids because we had an ongoing contract. They do good work. very reasonably priced compared to

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the other bids which is the formal process to get pricing. So we have not tried to procure anyone else. >> Okay. To my point. So that was November 2023. So if we have only as a reference the second price uh we should be going

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to bit right now because we this is the fifth amendment and now this contract has spiral out of control and we are basing this on a second company that by all means will have even have any kind of agreement with the first one not to

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be part of and not to be uh signing. So that's the point. So, please do not bring more amendments to this contract and just beat again. And if they are the best one with the best price, they're going to win again and we're going to continue working with them. But now

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there is maybe several other companies that'll be interested. That's what I'm saying. This process the way we are doing it is wrong and we should not be continue doing it this way. >> If I can get clarification, please. If we were to stop this and not have >> if we were to bid this out, what would

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happen with the current work that's that is uh planned for Golden Shores? >> Um FPL would would leave for now until we got our act together and then we would have to wait for them to come back. >> And how long is the is the bidding

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process approximately let's say for the next amendment if there's another amendment? Um at a minimum, you know, on average three to four months, three months if you rush it. Um four months is realistic. And this amount being asked

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for the intention is that it covers everything through the term, the final term of this contract in which we will be going back out to bid. >> And when is this contract up? >> You approved it for an initial three-year period and you approved it also with a two-year extension.

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>> Okay. So we're at three years right now >> at our at our option. >> So you you all approve that time frame. >> Got it. All right. Thank you. >> Approval was $120,000. Now it's 1.2 millions. And to the process about how long it takes that contract originally,

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the bid was in November 1st, 2023. And this contract was signed in January 18, 2024. So it only took three months if we rush like we said. So we can start right now doing the bid for the electrical for the next year and I'll be waiting when

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we have an emergency. >> Okay. >> And then just for the record though the amendments that came to you for the added increase you all approved >> right now I'm looking at the whereas clauses we approved each amendment. Correct. Um >> no I voted for it against it before.

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>> Right. As a body we approved it. Thank you. Uh I'll take a motion if there are no questions. Motion >> second. >> All in favor? >> I commissioner a no. >> Um all right. Now we are on to citizens forum. Do we have any public speakers?

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>> We do. Nutali Falovich. >> My name is Fakovich. 9280 Southwest 167 Pal Bay Florida. One of the things as coming here as a visitor to the city, you can always tell about how the administration is is I noticed the

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officers other employees effects how their administration is. And I think that because of the election this year, I think this is one of the greatest administration as a visitor here to come in here a lot that I notice it. the great job by a city manager,

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deputy city manager. As you hear him talk, you can tell how great job they're doing. That comes from our mayor comes, the administration comes from the mayor and he goes down, you see amazing police chief. You don't see that in a lot of cities in South Florida. This is the

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greatest city. And when you go in today in November, the citizen of the city, I wish I could vote in the city. I really honestly I think I wish I could vote. when you go in this year, really look at what you were city administration done.

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And you guys, the commissioners, you should be proud of yourself. And madame mayor, I know you never say how good you are or bad you are. You do a great job and people should know and know that cuz you never give yourself a boy. And you guys should give yourself attention.

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Thank >> Thank you for always coming up and saying something positive. Appreciate it. Any other public speakers? >> Yes. Stanislas of Freriedman. >> Okay. Your name and address for the record. >> Good evening, commissioners. Good evening, city workers. Stennis La

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Freedman, 209 Point Island Drive, San Beach, Florida, 33160. I would like to bring to your attention that the mayor candidate. Can I name the mayor candidate? Donna Goldman. >> No, no, no. Sir, sir, sir. Can we just

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keep it to city business? The the city is the city that's not city business and everything is is >> my apology. My apology. Okay. >> One of the mayor candidates. >> We that's not city business. >> Okay. Somebody make the event on a city property. >> Okay. >> Okay.

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>> I did private event. Yes. >> Private event. Well, private event. That's I was told by the city, by the city attorney, by the city manager, by the stuff. Okay. It was advertised advertise that the city birthday. Okay,

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I am the citizen. I live here for almost 32 years before the become the incorporated. Okay, I would like to come. So I asked for the request and I was been denied by the uh campaign manager of that person say you know

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you're not welcome down there. So next time when somebody do event on a city property please make sure when they advertise they don't advertise at the city birthday. Okay. Thank you, Jenny. You do an excellent job. Love you. >> Please just address everything to me. Thank you. >> Okay.

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>> Thank you. Thank you. >> You do an excellent job. >> Thank you. Thank you. Any other speakers? >> Martin Chadock. >> Your name and address for the record. >> My name is Martin Chadock. I live at 100 Kings Point Drive, Sunny Alice Beach. Um

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Madame Mayor, commissioners, thank you for, you know, for everything that you do. I really appreciate everything. Um, just a quick question just about FPL because you brought that up and wouldn't like being in government, wouldn't there be a contact that just just handles

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government where there's a relations where you can get things done? Is is that an option? >> We can speak to you after the meeting. >> Okay. Then my other question is, and again pertains to FBO, is like if they're not doing their job, can't they be fined? >> Thank you. That's

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>> okay. That's my opinion. Thank you very much. >> I would love that. But >> anyone else? >> No other speakers. >> All right, with that meeting is adjourned. Thank you everyone for coming.