--------- Okay. One hand, one hand. Boom. Pass. Okay. Slow. One hand. She called. It's all All right. Good afternoon, everyone.
It's 3:02. Calling the meeting to order. Mauricio. >> Thank you. Commissioner Joseph >> present. >> Vice Mayor Vascara >> here. >> Mayor Setchin >> here. >> And for the record, Commissioner Styverson is not here. Oh, yes, she is.
She's in the back. And then, uh, Commissioner Lama is running a little behind. >> Yes, we would normally wait, but we have a pretty long agenda, so let's uh proceed, please. >> Okay. Uh, mayor and commissioners, we have just a a couple of changes to the
agenda. Um, item number two 2G is being deferred to April. However, we did receive an email from Commissioner Regalo's office requesting
for a flag to be flown um for the month of April. And I believe that warrants a discussion amongst the commission as far as directing staff to have that done. >> So >> So we have to do that during this meeting. >> Um preferably.
>> Okay. >> You know. >> All right. So then we have that then just as an additional discussion item at the end. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um and then the other change. >> Okay. And then the other change is we're adding a special recognition um to the
agenda and it'll be done at some point. I'll I'll mention when. >> Okay. And what else? >> And that's all. >> 2D. >> 2D. I am so sorry. Yes. Correct. Uh 2D is being uh moved to the 6:30 meeting if
the commission uh agrees. Um because uh I forgot her name. I'm so sorry. >> Uh Toby Baron. >> Toby Baron. Yes. um requested for it to be done because of inconvenience at 3:00. >> Okay. All right. So, we're adding a discussion [clears throat] item and
we're um moving to D and we are uh moving 2G to April. >> Yes, ma'am. >> All right. Any objections? >> Okay. >> So, we'll start with 2A uh which is a proclamation for flood awareness. And
I'll just read the proclamation into the record for that. And the proclamation reads, "Whereas flooding is one of the most common and costly natural hazards in the United States and coastal communities such as the city of Sunny Al Beach are particularly vulnerable to flooding
caused by heav heavy rent, rainfall, storm surge, king tides, and other weather related events. And whereas the safety and resilience of our community depend on public awareness, preparedness, and proactive efforts by residents, businesses, and government agencies to reduce flood risk, and
protect lives and property. And whereas flood awareness week provides an opportunity to educate residents about flood hazards, encourage the adoption of flood protection measures, promote the purchase of flood insurance, and highlight the importance of maintaining drainage systems, and protecting natural
flood planes. And whereas the city remains committed to strengthening flood mitigation efforts, supporting emergency preparedness initiatives, and working collaboratively with regional, state, and federal partners to enhance community resilience against flooding and other environmental challenges.
Whereas increasing awareness of flood risk and preparedness action helps safeguard the well-being of residents, protect property, and preserve the vitality of the city of Sunny Al Beach community for future generations. Now therefore, do I Liss Swatchin as mayor
and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sun Beach speech hereby proclaim March 9th through the 15th as flood awareness week. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Then the next one will be a proclamation for uh
procurement professionals and we'll call up our procurement team at the end. Okay. So we're going to read the next two together which is 2B proclamation for procurement professionals day and 2C
proclamation for transit driver day. And if you just give me one second I'll read that right now. [snorts] [sighs] So the pro the proclamation for the procurement professionals day reads whereas
procurement professionals serve a vital role in government operations by ensuring that public funds are spent responsibly, transparently and in accordance with applicable laws and regulations. And whereas through their expertise and contract administration, strategic sourcing and vendor
management, procurement professionals help safeguard taxpayer resources while enabling municipalities to deliver essential services efficiently and effectively. And whereas these dedicated professionals uphold the highest standards of ethics, fairness, and accountability, fostering public trust,
and promoting open and competitive purchasing practices that benefit both the community and the business community. Whereas procurement professionals day observed annually on the second Wednesday in March provides an opportunity to recognize the important contributions of procurement
practitioners who work diligently behind the scenes to support the mission and operations of local governments and public agencies. And whereas the city of Sano speech recognizes and appreciates the commitment, professionalism, and integrity demonstrated by procurement professionals who ensure that public
purchasing processes remain fair, transparent, and in the best interest of the community. Now, therefore, Dwight Lur suspend and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach hereby proclaim March 11, 2026 as procurement professionals day in the city
and the proclamation for transit drivers day. Whereas public transit drivers provide an essential service that helps connect residents, workers, and visitors to jobs, schools, healthcare, and community resources each day. And whereas [snorts] transit drivers demonstrate professionalism, patience,
and dedication while safely navigating roadways, managing schedules, and assisting passengers of all backgrounds. And whereas these dedicated professionals often work eager early mornings, late evenings, weekends, and holidays to ensure reliable and accessible transportation for the
communities they serve. And whereas Transit Driver appreciation day, observed annually on March 18th, recognizes the vital role transit drivers play in strengthening mobility, economic opportunity, and quality of life in communities across the nation. And whereas the city of Sunny Al Beach
recognizes and appreciates the hard work, commitment, and public service provided by transit drivers who help keep our region moving safely and efficiently. Now therefore, do I latch and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach hereby
proclaim March 18th as transit drivers day in the city of Sunny Al Beach. Paul, >> I just um let me let me say that how vitally important it is to recognize um employees in the city of Sunny Al Beach
and how important it is um to to have them stick around as long as possible and looking out into the audience. Um I don't know if the camera could face that way. There's so many people here that have been with the city for so many years and I I can certainly say on behalf of the entire commission that we appreciate you and we appreciate your
commitment to the city. you know, the procurement department is sort of the backfacing um so nobody sees what they do, but we feel it and the the transit drivers are the front facing uh often, you know, really the face of of of the city and do so many wonderful things uh
for the residents that we don't see. So, uh you know, I I thank you for for your work and I'm very glad that we're able to uh acknowledge you. Thank you. Mayor, if I may, wait, sorry. If we could please bring up for flood awareness Nicole and Dylan. Nicole is our new
flood plane manager. >> Okay. >> Welcome. For procurement, Anastasia Genesis and the new addition to their team, Evelyn, please come up. Evelyn was a steal from CCS. >> And for transit drivers, Todd Nobles
will be accepting on behalf of all the drivers who are on the road right now. We'll have them in the front in the back here. Yeah, I think so. >> This way we get a better picture. >> Susan, would you like to be in the picture?
>> Just in time. >> We waited for you, Alex. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> We'll move it. >> Wait, I don't think this is even. >> Huh? >> Left or right? >> Do you want us to move over? >> Is it okay?
>> Well, because they have the podium. [snorts] So, >> it will shift. It will [laughter] shift. >> Okay. It's easier if we >> shift to the I'm too short to >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you all. >> Congratulations. >> [clears throat] >> I actually >> All right. I don't know what something >> better. >> Okay. And mayor, >> yes. >> Do you mind if I do a special
recognition? >> Uh, please do. Please do. >> Thank you. I have the distinct honor of bringing to your attention that we have a national award winner amongst our staff. As
recreation manager for the city, Jonathan was selected from hundreds of applicants to be awarded the prestigious National Recreation and Parks Association 30 under 30 award.
>> [applause] [applause] >> Bravo. >> I'm not done. Um, this program recognizes recreation professionals that have excelled in their career before turning 30, recognizing that in a field
of hundreds of thousands nationwide, there are stars that shine extra bright. So Jonathan, we all know Jonathan to be fun, energetic team player, someone who's very charismatic and everybody
enjoys being around Jonathan. He brings joy to everything he does, even the challenging moments where nothing goes right. for this award specifically. He was recognized for his leadership and implementation of new programming as it
relates to our senior population. Under his directive uh direction, he has launched more than 20 unique programs and more than 60 different sessions per month. These all range in activity from
concert series, fitness, health, wellness, education, and free enrichment programs. Jonathan exemplifies the true meaning of mission first and team player. On a separate
note, I just want to mention I remember Jonathan specifically because he and I spent Christmas together. um unfortunately was here working, but he and I worked an event together and we were the only ones uh
during that Christmas day. But I appreciated him so much being here and helping me with the event. So, I've always remembered that and I wanted to thank uh Jonathan specifically for his service and congratulate him on this. >> Thank you. [applause]
Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna add to it that, you know, you you mentioned Jonathan's smile during the the city anniversary when it was pouring rain. Um, and it seemed like it was going to rain the entire day or your evening. Jonathan was literally
like dancing and smiling and just there's there was no way to bring him down. And uh I know that uh certainly the seniors but the entire uh you know resident population really enjoys being around you and appreciates you and and certainly we do all as well. So this is
very very welld deserved and I didn't realize you were so young. So congratulations on on being under 30 as well. >> So okay well should we we can go down that >> Oh nice. This is really nice.
>> [applause] >> on this page. >> It's insane. >> Under 30, >> whatever. >> Yeah, I agree. Okay. Um, >> nominate you for >> do this every month. >> All right, Mauricia. [laughter]
>> Okay. So, the next uh three proclamations will be all heard together and I'll just read them into the record. Um it'll be um a proclamation for colarctal cancer awareness month, [clears throat] proclamation for women's history month,
and a proclamation for child abuse prevention month. >> The proclamation is if may I um I want to co-sponsor the color awareness month and also the um autism acceptance month,
2 E and 2 G. Okay. TUI uh 2G was was deferred until April. So we Okay. So >> Jerry Jerry also wants to co-sponsor that. >> Yes. Okay. Perfect. We'll do. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So the proclamation
for colarctal cancer awareness one reads whereas colurectal cancer is the second leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States among men and women combined and whereas in 2026 more than 150,000 Americans are expected to be diagnosed with colarctal cancer and more
than 52,000 are projected to die from the disease and whereas colurectal cancer is one of the few cancers that can be prevented with timely screening yet approximately one in three eligible Americans are not up to date on recommended screening. And whereas colurectal cancer is increasingly
affecting younger adults and is projected to become the leading cause of cancer among individuals aged 20 through 49 by 2030. And whereas black Americans are about 20% more likely to be diagnosed with colurectal cancer and
about 40% more likely to die from the disease than other racial and ethnic groups. And whereas colurectal cancer is expected to account for approximately 11% of cancer deaths among Hispanic men and 9% among Hispanic women. And whereas
screening rates declined during the CO 19 pandemic and have not yet fully returned to prepandemic levels nationwide. And whereas the national colurectal cancer round table has established a national goal of increasing colurectal cancer screening
rates to 80% in every community for all Americans eligible for screening. [snorts] And whereas education, advocacy, and awareness are critical in reducing the incidence and impact of colurectal cancer on individuals, families, and communities. And whereas
observing colurectal cancer awareness month during the month of March provides an opportunity to promote education, encourage screening and support those affected by the disease. Now therefore, Dwight Lissa Fetchin and as mayor and on behalf of the city
commission of the city of Sunalis Beach, Florida, hereby proclaim the month of March 2026 as colurectal cancer awareness month in the city of Sunal Beach. [clears throat] The proclamation for women's history month reads, "Whereas women of every
race, class, ethnic background have made historic contributions to the growth and strength of our nation in countless recorded and unrecorded ways. And whereas women have played and continue to play critical economic, cultural, and social roles in every sphere of life of
the nation by constituting a significant portion of the labor force working inside and outside of the home. And whereas women have played a unique role throughout the history of the nation by providing the majority of the volunteer labor force of the country. And whereas
women particularly important in the establishment of early charitable, philanthropic and cultural institutions in our nation. And whereas women of every race, class, and ethnic background served as early leaders in the forefront of every major progressive social change
movement. And whereas the 2026 women's history theme is leading the change. Women shaping a sustainable future honors women who are rebuilding systems, fostering environmental, economic, and social equity [clears throat] and designing a more resilient inclusive
future for both people and the planet. And whereas the city of Sonia's Beach recognizes the extraordinary achievements and ongoing contributions of women locally, nationally, and around the world and encourages residents to reflect upon the honor and
accomplishments of women who have helped shape our society. Now therefore, Dwight Lurus Fetchen and as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunnyal Beach speech hereby proclaim March 2026 as women's history month in the city of Sunal Beach.
And finally, [clears throat] the proclamation for child abuse of prevention month reads, "Whereas children are our nation's most vulnerable members as well as our nation's most valuable resources, helping to shape our future. And whereas positive childhood experiences like
loving caregivers and safe, stable, and nurturing relationships can help mitigate trauma and the negative impact of adverse child exper childhood experiences to promote the social, emotional, and developmental well-being of children. And whereas childhood
trauma can have long-term psychological, emotional, and physical effects throughout the individual's lifetime and impact future generations of their family. Whereas childhood trauma, including abuse and neglect, is a serious problem affecting every community in the US and finding
solutions requires input and action from everyone. And whereas children who live in families with access to concrete economic and social support are less likely to experience abuse and neglect. And whereas prevention is possible because of the partnerships created
between families, prevention advocates, child welfare professionals, faith-based organizations, and local, state, and national governments, especially law enforcement agencies. And whereas we acknowledge that in order to solve the public health issue of abuse and
neglect, we must work together to change hearts and mindsets through storytelling and sharing, center the needs of families, break down bias and barriers, and inspire action from expected and unexpected partners in prevention. And whereas we are committed to advancing
equitable, responsive, and effective systems that ensure all children and families are healthy and thriving. And whereas we recognize the need to prioritize kids and invest in more prevention initiatives like home visiting and family strengthening policies, economic supports, and
community-based child abuse prevention programs at the national, state, and local levels. Now therefore, Dwight Lur Fetchin as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach hereby proclaim the month of April 2026 as National Child Abuse Prevention
Month. >> Thank you, Mauricia. I I just want to say um a few things and I'm sure that the that my colleagues probably do do as well regarding the col uh colon rectal uh cancer um as you read it it touches so many people but really the the person
that brought this to us initially and pushed so hard um is is the late Michael Stern may his memory may his name be a memory be a blessing. he was a um commissioner in Aventura and he worked steadfastly to to bring awareness um to
this horrible disease. So I want to make sure to give him credit for that and you know anything that we can do as a city to bring attention to to to that to the importance of screening um I would fully support. Um, and then regarding my other
item, the uh child child abuse awareness, it it doesn't only touch uh communities that don't have resources. It's it definitely touches our community. Um, I know that the vice mayor um I don't know if currently was a guardian at light. I'm also I'm a
volunteer guardian at lightam. Um, and it's such an important topic uh to to not forget how our most vulnerable uh residents need to um be supported and and how we shouldn't forget how important it is to acknowledge um them
as well. Um and and I applaud um you know, Commissioner Stuant and Vice Mayor for recognizing uh women's uh history awareness. That's obviously very important. >> [snorts] >> Um, did anyone else want to say anything about the items that they've sponsored?
>> Just uh I' I'd just like to say that uh regarding child abuse month, um Jod and I are uh foster parents and we um we've been trained and we understand um how much abuse there is out there, child
abuse, and um you know, it's just something that can't be overlooked and it is uh prevalent everywhere. Thank you. >> Thank you. I I I forgot you mentioned that last year, I think. >> Okay. >> May I say something? So So So regarding
child abuse, um >> I I just wanted to see if we could put something out uh with the media department, for instance, the child abuse uh hotline is 1 800 962-22873. So, if we could put something out there
uh for people to see and uh have some resources where they could report this if they see something, uh it'll be great, I think. >> Yeah, I I agree with that. Um there's plenty of resources out there, but perhaps people can't find >> sometimes people can't find them. Yeah.
>> If we could put it out there in Spanish and in Russian as well. Mhm. >> Um >> and then obviously Michael Stern I think um very dear uh friend and colleague and uh he was a great person. So yeah, I
think he'll always be in our uh hearts and minds. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Mayor, if you don't mind, we have a couple of our regulars from Gateway, a couple of women here who were um invited
to celebrate Women's Day with us. So, if you don't mind, they're not paying any attention. Excuse me. >> Ladies. Ladies. >> Hi. Enjoyed your cookie? >> You want to come up and get um a picture with a proclamation for Women's Day?
>> Yes, please. All right. Let's let's go down for that. Yes. >> Yes. Thank you for coming. Thank you. You come here. >> Okay, thank you for that. All right, Mauricio. >> Okay, we're now on to discussion items.
Okay. >> Item 3A is a procurement is a discussion item regarding procurement of AV equipment and event planning for resident only FIFA World Cup watch parties by Commissioner Styverson. >> This Tuesday I was in DC and we had a
meeting with the State Department people and they consider sports diplomacy as one of their priorities right now. So I have a memo that I make so to share with you guys. So I'm going to read some part of it. So today I'm bringing forward a vision
that combines community building with strict strict fiscal responsibility. The US State Department run an entire sports diplomacy division. They explicitly use sports and organized watch parties at embassies around the world to transcend
cultural barriers, unite foreign nations, and build goodwill. They do this because sports are the universal language. Therefore, share space to watch these global events is one of the most powerful ways we can
truly use to build a community right here at home. Unfortunately, because we currently lack the permanent infrastructure, Sony Beach has missed out. We completely miss the World Baseball Classic, the Winter Olympics, Cup America, Grand Prixs, NASCAR, and
others. But we have a chance to change that. We have massive future experiences coming directly to us, including FIFA 26 and the Olympics and annual ongoing events like the Super Bowl, NBA finals, and more. So to capture these moments,
my proposal today is not about buying or rolling out a temporary screen. We could build a beautiful permanent architectural feature on the west side of the Gateway Park loan lawn. Look at the AI is a simple AI um rendering uh
that combine kind of the nostalgic of the 1960s driving movie but with the updated 21st century in state-of-the-art uh technology. So I'm bringing this forward for us to consider instead of um
just uh buying something that has to be on and off in and out to build something permanent. >> That's it. >> May I add something? I'd like to add something to what you said. Uh yeah,
we're both in in DC uh with the National League of Cities. So also obviously these um these type of events bring a lot of security um challenges, let's say. Uh so there there is money also to
implement uh extra security. So we could look into tapping into that as well from the federal government. >> Yeah. Because of the human trafficking issue and all of that. Yes, >> but this is like specifically to >> No, no, I understand. I just wanted to mention. >> No, but thank you for that. Yeah. To
give the direction to start considering having somewhere where imagine we can have like every other week uh movie nights. You name it, you know, so we can have watch party for residents for different type of events. Um again, we
are doing this around the world. We should be doing it here also with the population that we have that is so diverse from everywhere and also um we have a lot of sport fans in here. So >> okay >> so I'm bring it for you guys to your
attention. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> anything? I actually I I absolutely agree with this to um to uh bring to Sunny Isles um the latest technology that um
uh that assists its uh citizens in um enjoying uh sports events and um and movies and other things since we don't have an indoor theater and I know that actually
I at the um anniversary. I was speaking to uh one of the technology people regarding the uh screens there and they were saying how just in the last six to eight months how the technology
has changed to have the ability to have all of these screens outdoors uh you know 247. So I believe this would be a great thing for Sunny Isles as well. >> Okay. Yeah, even the cruise ships they have it
now. So if they can do with the weather, we can do it as well. Maurice, I want to put the memo as part of the um agenda package, please. Okay. >> What did you explore how much this costs? >> No, no, I would not. Well, they gave me
an initial number. I think it was really low. They say it was around $80,000. I believe it's more than that. Uh depending that what we use, but that was somebody who did it in middle America. and they had tornadoes there. So that's when we were talking about that. Um so
and again just exploring the the option to have it there. Um I think it's just like some some legacy that we can leave here also for the people in the in the city. >> Well, I I support anything that's going
to uh allow the residents to have more access to something like this. My biggest concern and regret has always been that we don't have anything indoor. So that the chances of us being able to utilize something like this fully is
almost 50/50 based on the weather. Um that's probably one of the, you know, biggest mistakes we probably made years and years and years ago was not to build an indoor >> whatever. Yeah, that's not the only place. But uh I'd vice mayor, what what
would you like to add? Well, we talked about this a little bit in the budget um workshop. So, um I mean I thought we were already sort of toying with the idea. So, um it's part of the budget conversation.
>> Right. Right. So, >> yeah, I it's hard to have this conversation without numbers. So, sure. Uh we have I believe we were supposed to give you a list of items >> and specifically we had FIFA in the
budget and we took that out. So the challenges with this are well there's a few not the least of which is the budget and ultimately it's up to you all as the commission but
we've had premeings with the police department concerning FIFA specifically and we have some concerns about watch party obviously for safety with everything that's going on in the world today. So we would have to consider that
aspect of it. At our last event, the city anniversary party between Ocean Rescue and the police department, we had almost 30 personnel just for that, >> right? >> So when you're considering this, you have to also consider um the cost for
the safety part of it, >> right? The open air is also not great because of that. Um okay. All right. All right. Well, it could be part of the discussion for the budget. >> Yeah. But this is not only for FIFA. It's like for ongoing for like
movies for children, uh, classic golden Hollywood era movies. So, I'm thinking really ahead, not specifically for one sporting event, but like I said, kind of like a legacy thing of the city to have
a to give access to everybody instead of just putting a little um or a big whatever screen and moving it from, you know, heritage to town center, whatever, to have a specific place where we can I mean, I had this in the 80s in the
country club in Venezuela. and we are here in 2026 and we might think that it's not doable. So like I said, I used to I was I grow in petroleum compounds and so we have really the latest technology back then
in those areas but um it was a place to get together. So that's what I'm saying thinking ahead doing things that they are going to be there for many years for the people to have access to. >> Okay. I'm wondering if we could do
something like a popup um on the stage, the existing stage. If we could I don't I don't know what the height is, but if it's deep enough [clears throat] that we could do a popup screen, it would it would be better for security,
you know, for vandalism. So, I'd like to look into that as well. >> Yeah, anything like the technology is out there, Jerry. like all the options are available, you know, we just need to have the willing to do it. And and about the weather as well, I mean, um my kids,
they do it sports and they do it in the rain as well, unless it's light lightning. Um yesterday, our little ones were doing soccer in the field and it was raining. So if you are you if it's okay to watch the people getting wet, you can get wet when you're watching
them as well. So yeah, people that do sports and they get it. Okay. >> So, um I like the idea of watch parties. I mean, when we had the one for the Miami Heat, it was great. A lot of people showed up. We Everybody had fun
while the Heat won. So, that was great. And um obviously I would like to see um the cost of this and then you know we will need to analyze whether it's good to you said to build it. I I don't know what
that exactly entails, you know, or do we buy a special screen? I'm not sure what, you know, h how it works, but my question would be would it better would it be better to build it, own it, or just contract that out because
technology nowadays is, you know, moving so fast that I don't want for us to build something and then two years down the road is obsolete and there's some sort of new technology. So, I think those are all considerations that we must uh include in these conversations
and, you know, looking at budgets and costs. [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I'm for watch parties. Um, and then I I understand the mayor's point too to have something indoors, but
when you're having a watch party for FIFA for the World Cup or, you know, you're talking about the NBA playoffs or finals, I I don't know how many people we could accommodate in an inside space, you know, based on what we have. Correct.
>> I'm not necessarily suggesting that we need to have an inside space. I wish we did is my point. Yes. Uh I think that we just lost that opportunity. Um but this is definitely a budget um conversation because this is this has a lot of pieces
to it that are not specific to just that are not just limited to the screen. >> Um okay, next item. >> Next item is 3B, a 2026 legislative update by Vice Mayor Viscara.
>> Okay, you're up, Vice Mayor. So, the session is over and yet it isn't. >> So, it's kind of like last year. >> Um, but what I wanted to do is um take you through our our website uh because that that's where we've been tracking
and just kind of walk you walk you down memory lane. Uh so, based on on the outcomes that we wanted and and our particular list, it's a tie between outcomes we wanted and outcomes
we didn't want. we we're 44. Uh and then the property taxes are still up in the air. So the uh land development regulations, which is the first one, that's House Bill 399. This is the one that we really did not
want to move forward. Uh and it it did and it passed. Uh and this is going to um mean that uh our building permit fee structure is going to have to be looked at. But uh if we contact Governor
DeSantis and say pretty please don't sign it, you know, that's basically where we're at right now. So if you can text him, pretty please, this would be the thing to do it on. Uh the cleanup bills for SB80, um those also died. Uh we received an
email about that. I don't know if you guys saw it >> because uh because um Allan >> has been keeping us up. So um what this means is the the cities were hoping that would they would have been helped
litigation will uh now may get more plaintiffs um supporting and maybe [clears throat] even paying towards it. Uh the um claim suits against government. This is a sovereign immunity
that um raises the amounts that uh people can sue opposed it just you're being attacked from all fronts anything that's going to work against bill that was another one and we all
agree that an it's just that the sounding So too crazy. So I still uh we opposed it but I would for us as a city it
uh the local we were opposing it. So that's a good outcome for us and that one uh we had seen it before government also
one died in ethics committee. So that's a good outcome for us. These are political subdivisions also failed that
affair sub a good outcome for us. Uh community like we want Yeah. coastal uh it just you know all dressed up
this year a win for us and the uh property tax items uh didn't pass. However, these uh are probably going to be taken up in in a special session. So, we'll see. So, that one is not it's not um over yet.
So, that's our our annual review. I think we're you know 44 I guess if we're we're we're in the it's a tie for us in terms of >> smoking in restaurants that failed also. >> Are you asking me or telling me? >> Asking. >> I don't know. I wasn't following it. Okay.
>> When is the special se session? I don't know. >> They haven't scheduled it yet, right? >> I don't think so. Um, we do have uh Ben, if you do have that information, do you happen to know? >> Um, and for those >> mind I'm sorry. Do you may sorry
>> for those of you that are watching um this we progressively and and certainly with the help of this commission but specifically vice mayor have gotten more and more involved in Tallahassee because so much of what um the public wants. We can only affect so much. Um so that's
what the this review was was what's happening in Tallahassee that affects um our residents. But please go ahead. When is the special session? >> Good afternoon mayors and commissioners. The special session should be sometime in April uh potentially May. And I know that the Senate president um talked
about in a in a communicate that they'll take up obviously the budget. They have to pass that but then also the adalorum. Um and I did also see the coastal resiliency bill was assigned by the governor today. So >> it was signed. Oh, wonderful. That's the latest. >> So no pretty please on that one. >> N all right. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you vice mayor. Next item is 3C, a discussion regarding personal mobile delivery devices. >> Okay, here >> please.
>> Mayor, this came up recently as I sent you all some information regarding these mobile delivery devices. M >> we received a lot of questions and concerns from the residents and I asked the code director to put together a very
brief presentation. We were able to look at some other city's ordinances to show what we can and can't do regarding these. >> Okay. Do we have a picture of this so that we can show people what what this is or No, >> unfortunately not. >> All right. Well, I I imagine those that
know no. Okay. So, good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Yes, as as you all are aware, these delivery robots are presently in service in the city of Sunnyhouse Beach. As state law does allow for this, uh we reviewed a Miami Beach ordinance that
addresses them. It's really the only ordinance that I've found of any any city locally. Um there's also state regulations that we must comply with. uh there may be an opportunity for us to add our own regulations particularly
perhaps some of the ones similar to the city of Miami Beach. Um we're considering these regulations and some of these include where these devices can be dropped off and picked up. also includes uh you know how we can
prohibit them to limit certain disruptions where they can stop and pick up where they can't such as public certain public places. Uh limit the certain times and locations based on events if the city's having an event or if a religious institution doesn't want
any of them to stop in front of their property. These are some of the things that we're looking at to see if we can implement. Uh we can also limit the certain times. um the idle times, the times that you know, how long can they be stopped on a sidewalk and [clears throat] one of the other things that we may be able to
limit as well is the uh the speed limit. So, their speed limit. >> Uh so, we're here to listen to, you know, any concerns or suggestions that you may have for us so that we can consider them in a potential action. >> I have a few questions. I have a lot of
questions. >> Okay. um the company or companies that deploy them. Um do we know who they are? >> Yes, there's one main company. There's several of them, but the main player's name is Serve Robotics.
>> And did they call us? Did they contact us or they just decided to appear at 2 o'clock in the morning? And >> so we reached out to them. We did speak with them. Um >> but they did just appear. What they what they explained to us is that they had some other ones but very few ones within
the city. >> They did deploy deploy a bunch of them as everyone saw. >> Not all of them were for the city of Sunny Als Beach. They just happened to drop them off here. Some of them made their way down as far as uh Surf Side is
what we were told. >> And so what sort of you you know if any business is operating in the city of Sunny Beach, they have to get a local business license. They have to have insurance. they have. So, how are these being treated or are they just being treated like scooters? >> So, it's one of the things that we're
looking into. They're actually >> from what we gather and from the feedback we've received and I've been in contact with other municipalities about business tax receipt requirements more more than likely, but again, we're looking into this is that they'll
operate as Ubers and so they may not require a business tax receipt because they don't have a footprint in the city. They're dropped off and picked up daily is their intention. So really they're just delivery devices to deliver food or documents.
>> What's because we have a time limit h of how long Ubers and various delivery trucks can stand idling. And I believe it's no more than what five minutes something like that. >> It's 15 minutes but >> we allow 15 minutes for Ubers to stand on the street. I I believe actually
we're prohibited from state statutes from stopping them, but the statute actually these devices are a little bit different because statute kind of treats them as and gives them similar rights to pedestrians specifically and that so they preempt us
from >> Please Allan that just scared me. >> That's exactly they are they have the same rights and responsibilities as a pedestrian. >> So we're prohibited from prohibiting them. Wow. >> I I'm lost actually for words. Anybody
else uh commission? >> Yeah, that's Yeah, when I spoke to to Julio, yeah, we discussed it and and um yeah, he told me that. So, I I was just flabbergasted that they're treated as >> there's a there's a little leeway and it's vague and that's why some cities
are this is brand new for everyone. Uh it's like when the scooters started invading cities about 10 years ago, uh the commercial >> the rental ones, right? >> Um everybody sort of had to catch up. But >> 3162071,
which authorizes these um does make reference to another statute 316.008. There's one sentence in there that says that this paragraph does not restrict a county or municipality from otherwise adopting regulations for the safe operation of
personal delivery devices and mobile carriers. What does that mean? So that's where these things are going to be tested and we're looking at. So Miami Beach, for example, is requiring them to retrofit to the extent they don't have them now certain lighting requirements, certain flag, I don't know if you've
seen some of them. Some of them have flags. They require all of them to have flags, but there's a long lead in time because obviously if they have to retrofit all these things, you know that it may you may have to give them several months for them to adapt. But those types of things, speed limits are nice,
but [clears throat] how do you clock one of these and how do you give it a ticket, you know? So there may be a registry component also that we could put in there because that's what was done with the scooters in a lot of jurisdictions where even though by state statute they're required to have information on them that identifies who
they are where the you know and so on and so forth. We could [clears throat] also have a registry uh potentially where if you're going to operate in the city you have to register so we have even more information should we have uh a pro. You know, if one of these falls over and it's sitting there for a half hour, we could have restrictions saying
that >> if if it falls over, you you got an hour to pick it up. If you don't pick it up, we're taking it. >> But even an hour, you but we would just leave. >> That's just arbitrary. >> No, but that's a very [clears throat] good point. If one of these breaks down or falls over,
>> what what do we do? We just wait. >> In some other jurisdictions, I don't know if you've seen, some of them have gotten where they have railroad tracks. They got stuck on the railroad trucks I saw where they they >> one of the things that carry >> they mentioned to us is that they usually have somebody within 30 minutes or so that can appear and try to help
them. If not, they say that a lot of uh a lot of residents and people that see them tipped over, they they usually try to help them out. But >> um Mr. City Manager, would you like to add something? I I was just going to say that based on the research we've put together, we can have a draft ordinance
for you next month to review that incorporates a lot of what we've learned so far. Uh the main thing I want to let you know is that we cannot ban them, but there are a number of regulations which include identification,
insurance requirements, and limitations [clears throat] on idle time. So, those would be things that we build into the ordinance, but we could have that back for you next month if that's your desire. And if you have anything additional we'd like to add, you would like to
>> I'd like to know uh what they're doing. Meaning, is it local restaurants that have requested it because it's cheaper for them than hiring Uber drivers? Like, is this something that is in response to AB small businesses? So they actually do a lot of uh market analysis before they
bring these into a city. And from what they've told us, there's approximately 2021 businesses that have signed up with them to take orders and deliver them to individuals. >> Okay. And I guess what I'd like to know is how [clears throat] do they get upstairs? >> They don't. So they're not allowed to go
onto any private property. >> So they can only really be on the rightway. So, for example, if somebody pulls up to one of the buildings on the east side of Collins, an individual will have to come out to the sidewalk and pick up the food. >> So, they don't go into the lobbies. They have to go in this
>> they're Yeah, they're not supposed to go into any private property. >> Okay. So, just right then and then I think they're going to become obsolete because that's not very convenient at all because we're condo city. So yeah, that was really my only question. Was it was this a push [clears throat] by the
small businesses uh by the restaurants? Does anyone else have anything to ask or add? >> I do. >> Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, John. >> Please, Vice Mayor, >> did you say that there is no limit on the hours of operation or is that something that we could do in the ordinance? >> Um I I I I don't believe so.
>> There's no the state statute doesn't have time limitations. It has some limitations with regard well for example the insurance they have to carry $100,000 worth of insurance. Um they have to yield to pedestrians [snorts] >> whatever that means. Uh you know those types of things. But uh the that's one
of the things that that Julio was looking into is possibly hours of operation. Um presuming they don't make any noise. You know because if you do say well you can only operate certain hours if it's too late you know if it makes a noise. I don't know. But we'll have to look at
>> and and the other thing I was thinking first of all if if they're only allowed on the sidewalks and they're actually going to follow the rules. I agree you know somebody on the 20th floor >> coming that I mean for that they'll just do Uber Eats or you know that actually
comes to your door. Um, but the other thing I was thinking is can we request can we require if we can put the time limitations can we require them to be picked up that you know if they say that's their intention then do it and hold them to it so that at 10 p.m. or
whatever it is they got to be gone. >> So what we got to look at is to see if if they're treated as pedestrians, you know, can we limit the time that they're out here? That's that's the thing we have to still look at. that that's what's so difficult with these things is as Julio said,
they're treated as pedestrians. So, um there's a component to it. You know, I they it does affect interstate commerce, so there may be some federal regulations on that we have to look at, but um that may be more difficult, but it's certainly one of the things I think all these cities are looking into. Um it's
it's unchartered territory at this point. So, we're we're >> a lot of it might be creative now would be the time, right? because it's uncharted territory and and push push it, you know, in the best you can.
Um, and you know, when something is declared with the same rights as a as a pedestrian, I mean, pedestrians can't just do whatever they want either, right? >> Right. But I suspect the hours are market driven. Obviously, at 3 in the morning, there's not going to be a high demand for food to be delivered necessarily.
>> Okay. Well, then great. Then at 3:00 a.m., come pick them up, right? They may not want to. somewhere. >> Nothing good happens after 12. >> Nothing. That's true. >> No, I Yeah, I I think that the the I agree. It's not necessarily they're going to be driving around. Where are they going to wait? >> Yeah. Where's their resting place?
>> Um so, because I know that if they try to park or stand in our uh like Samson, that's where a bunch of them were. Then we I'm hoping we have the the uh ability to tow them or whatever it is you do with them. >> Well, we're looking into that as well because again, [clears throat]
>> challenging. So, under state law, you can't block a sidewalk, right? So if you're completely block, let's say you have 15 of them staged in one area and they're completely blocking the sidewalk, that's unlawful. But from a law enforcement standpoint, it's a little difficult to give a ticket to a
robot, right? So logistically, we have to look into how the cities are and how we can um get to the company. You know, that's why the registries are important. the information that's on there is, but we can't necessarily give a moving
violation to a robot, right? So, um, >> what if a tow truck picks it up? >> Well, the problem is they're not registered vehicles. So, you can't take them to you can't really take them to a toyard. Towyards won't take them because they're not registered vehicles. >> So, you can necessarily potentially take
them, but you'd have to be set up to store them on site here somewhere in the city. obviously inventory them and have a record of them being here and have a process where they can pick them up which >> but if we could have an outside company do it rather than us then that would be
ideal. >> It's more a lot more expensive. >> So if if we could somehow require that they be registered with some kind of registration then we could have a tow truck company pick them up >> and we >> and then it's their responsibility. We've been told that usually they've
been they have been picking them up around 10 or 11 anyways. At least that's what's been that's been told to us. So I don't know if that's going to be an issue or not, but correct me if I'm wrong, Alan. I think the regulations, whatever we whatever suggested to be put into the ordinance, I I believe they
have to be uh around safety. I I would say that, you know, I think we have consensus that we want the strictest regulations. Um, unless we really have a big push by the businesses, which I don't I I've not heard one restaurant reach out to none.
>> Well, actually Uber, Uber Eats and all, they they kill the restaurants. They charge so much that the restaurants um are really hurting. >> That's, you know, that's the irony because Uber killed the taxis. And no, >> to Julio's point though, he is correct
that whatever regulations we impose, they have to be justified from a a context of safety. >> Of course, >> that's all we have. >> Commissioner Lama, you had something else you wanted to add? >> Yeah. So, going back to these devices
blocking the sidewalks, etc., what would happen in a scenario where one of them trips and falls over and is blocking one of the lanes in Collins Avenue? Can we in that case pick it up and tow it because obviously it's blocking the
lane. It is a safety issue. Then also I would like to know if we could limit the amount of these devices in the city because when they came and dumped this whole bunch of them, I mean they were everywhere. They were blocking lanes. They were idling everywhere. It was just like an invasion.
I felt like I was in a movie, like a sci-fi movie. You >> you could move them. I mean, if they're blocking the way, you can move them. they fall over in the street, you can move them. Don't know about limiting the number of of units they can use though. But I mean, >> the the amount of restaurants we have, I
mean, can we >> again, it would have to lead to safe. So, let's say they have >> 3,000 of them, right? Which would be a ridiculous number to have in the city, right? But >> we don't have that situation here. You know, if they have two dozen, >> from a safety standpoint, I don't know
that we could limit it. But again, a lot of it's uncharted territory. So, we'd have to look at that and see exactly. I don't know that, you know, perhaps with a registry, you would know how many they're operating, but I mean, we can always try. >> Yeah. And and my question is, are these devices registered anywhere with the
state, any entity, any organization, or they're just floating around um >> like off the grid, >> the corporation? So, they do have an office in they're nationwide, but they do have an office in Miami date county. So, they do hold a Miami date county tax
receipt. >> Okay. >> So, they are registered with the state and they have a county tax receipt from what we've been told. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And if you want, I can distribute to you by email. It's a short statute uh what
they're required by state law to have. So, at least you'll have a list of what actually is required as of today. >> Okay. >> Send that >> maybe to everyone. >> Yeah, I'm going to send it to all of you. Yeah. >> All right. Mauricio, >> next item is 3D, a discussion by
Commissioner Joseph regarding the visibility of a property tax rebate program for qualified seniors. >> Yes. Thank you. So, I'm proposing um to follow the city of Hyalia uh regarding uh rebates to um seniors
over 65 who have an income of $37,694 or less and also have homestead exemption. in Hyia there are they discovered that there were 6635
families that come under that um those guidelines. I believe in Sunny Isles we have a lot less than that but I haven't had the opportunity to speak to someone who would have those figures. Also, they accomplished um the rebates of
approximately $539 per eligible resident by early payment of um early pension payments. Now, I also haven't spoken to Tiffany yet, but it's something to look into regarding
what our provisions are for early pension payments and how much that might save the city that we could put towards this project. If there is any money that um could be saved, um then I think this
would be ideal for lowincome people in our city. I don't believe in some else we have um close to 6,500 people that are low income, but you never know. And also uh claim homestead.
>> Um okay, >> I have a question. >> Yes. Go ahead, Commissioner. >> Can you explain the uh the pension part? I I didn't I didn't understand. >> So, apparently there are savings that were achieved by making early um pension
payments. Dan, I asked you earlier regarding our pension program. Do you know how our pension program works? >> Mr. City Manager, can you clarify what this what that means? Because I'm not following either. How our pension uh
program would relate to this. >> We we participate in the Florida retirement system. So, I'm not sure how it's related to if they're indicating some type of savings. I don't know. We would have to research that. >> Okay. So, if we could uh look into that
and also is there any way to know how many low-income people we have in Sunny Isles that claim Homestead? There has to be some >> means of finding that out because Hyia came up with a number. >> Can I ask though as far as Halia is
concerned either from the city manager or the city attorney, what exactly are they doing there? Because this seems like it's >> Yeah. So we we started looking into this because if if you recall, Commissioner Tuan had brought up a similar issue with the city of Miami back this summer. So we started looking into it. Um we as a
firm and and you know from a legal standpoint. Um I have you I I've went I talked to the city city of Hyia city attorney. I've looked at their legislation and unfortunately um you you can't do what they're doing. uh they
they can't either but um it's so what they're doing is there's two without getting into a big dissertation about it you have no taxing authority inherent taxing authority your sole taxing authority is conferred to you upon by the Florida constitution and Florida
statutes the method by which the rebates the whatever you want to anything dealing with taxation advalone taxation is strictly dictated by state law you have no other authority besides that. So here what Halia we'll use as an example
is doing is you have two and you've already maxed this out in your ordinances. You have so folks over 65 have [clears throat] one tax exemption homestead exemption that they can take advantage of. There's an additional one that you can have if
you've been in your residence for 25 years or longer. What Hyelia is doing is saying well that's not fair because a lot more people sort of uh are eligible for the first but not the second. So if you're not eligible for the second but you're
available for the first, we're going to give you a rebate check or stimulus check they call to make up that difference because we don't think it's fair. You can't do that. That is a complete circumvention of the constitution and uh just you just don't
have the authority to do that. um and [clears throat] still waiting to hear back from the city of Miami. We've made some contact with their attorney's office, but we haven't heard back. But unfortunately, um especially using advalorum dollars, you can't you can't circumvent the
constitution and the >> in the state statute on that. >> What's happening with hyia? It's >> I'm not going to talk for highly. I can just tell you after speaking with them and reading that they they can't do that. So, have they implemented it or not?
>> They p it passed second reading. Uh the uh I I can't, you know, speak again as to why they're doing it. I mean, if you look at the first I think you've seen it, the first whereas clause of their ordinance speaks volumes, I think, but
um legally it's just you can't. But >> so who's stopping them? >> I don't know that anybody is. So, if you're saying they can't legally do it, but they're doing it and no one's stopping them from doing it,
>> then it has to be within the law. >> No, >> no, no. If you commit a crime, but you don't get caught, it doesn't make it legal. >> I would I wouldn't recommend you doing it because it would be a violation of the law. And the thing is to to take the position that we can do it because we're going to get away with it. This is
probably not a good position to be in either. >> I I have a question. So let's say we want to wave our portion of the property taxes for seniors. We can't do that either. We can't >> The only thing the only control you have with regards to taxation is your millage
rate. You want your you want your tax your tax base to go down is your millage rate. That's what the law allows. >> We already have the lowest on that, >> right? So that's >> this is what he's saying like what what we're able to do, we've already maxed it out. So, your code already provides both
exemptions for the 65 and older and also the extended one additional for 65 plus 25 years in residence. Um, there's some a myriad of other ones I think for some veterans and things of that. So, you've maxed all that out in your code of ordinances and that's what's permitted
by the Florida Constitution and Florida statutes. >> The Florida Constitution wouldn't allow us to come up with another exemption. >> No, because what happens is so that all has to go to the voters of Florida, right? So, a couple years ago, they tried to do that to make some changes to the homestead exemption, for example.
And it has to go to the voters. It's got to go through the process. It it literally has to go through a constitutional amendment. And what these types of programs are trying to do is sort of circumvent that, not go through that process and take money and sort of give it on the back end. Okay, pay your
taxes, but once you've paid them, I'm going to pay it back to you. And that's you just can't do that. >> Okay? So a city can't give rebates to residents >> not for tax not for advalorum taxation no >> and typically in the other aspect we
>> something else >> but you're still it's you know if it looks like a you know what it is uh the problem is that also the other aspect of it is there has to be a municipal purpose and if you come back and you're giving out certain stimulus checks to
only a set of individuals it's really a private donation or private rebate back to certain individuals. There's no municipal purpose. That has to be that's part of the issue. And I think the article you attached to your item also speaks of that issue. The problem with the fact that it's a
private essentially a private donation and not a municipal purpose. >> Okay. >> I think we'll have to see what happens at this. >> We'll have to see what happens and then we'll come back to it. >> Yeah. I just I I agree with Vice Mayor just because make it legal.
>> Yeah. I'm sure if there's something illegal, it's going to >> somehow be reversed. And if you'd be surprised, but uh I I can't speak to the city of Miami because I still haven't made contact with them and have the full documentation. Theirs may be a little bit different. >> So I can only speak to Hay because
that's who I've interacted with and who I've seen. But I know it was similar in Miami, but I don't have all the specifics there. >> Okay. So do you think within the next month you'll have more information >> for That's in Miami. I mean, we keep trying to contact them, so hopefully uh we'll be in contact with them.
>> So, is there also a three-month um issue for me bringing this back next month? >> Uh is there for discussion on >> you have further information? >> I mean, I can I'm still looking into it because again, the commissioner suicide had raised this issue back this summer. So, >> right, I think that city attorney can
send us by email and if there's anything to discuss, we can discuss it. >> So, we can bring it back. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. there's anything further >> if there's something to discuss. Um, it's it's 4:13. Is everyone anyone opposed to keep going? >> Good. >> Keep going. >> Okay. Next item, please. [clears throat] >> Okay.
>> Next item is 3E, a discussion by Commissioner Joseph regarding car carriers in residential neighborhoods. >> Yeah. So, I brought this up several times before. We've had um several I don't know if um the pictures are attached, but we've had several large
car carriers uh sitting on 186th Street off Collins. Um and they just come and pick up from the Porsche building and other buildings uh in that local. And the same thing as
we were discussing for these um mobile carriers that um we should be able to set some time of day when these uh car carriers come around. Are we regarding code enforcement? Are we able to set
some uh time frame as far as the time of day? And I know we're we've been trying to set a location, but they just come in and stop anywhere. >> Mr. City Manager, would you remind me please, because we talked about this
before. How did what where did we end up with with this? Because I know we had we were very limited. >> The last discussion that we had, we presented you some options for [snorts] locations and there was no agreement from you. So that's where it ended. However, that being said,
we do enforce this through not just parking, but also if it's a if it's a potential for blocking traffic. The police department has issued citations and parking. Always issues citations >> and I'm looking to raise the fines as
well if we could. >> I have a question. >> Is that a possibility? um let >> to raise the fines. >> The fines that we're operating under now I believe are set by the county. Um so we wouldn't be able to raise those and then the stat the state ones obviously
we can't raise if you ultimately pass an ordinance with separate regulations. Um you could have some flexibility there, but you're also limited under Chapter 162 Florida statutes as to how much you can charge. >> Um it's limited. Would you uh if if
everyone's in agreement, would you look into it to see what's the most stringent um enforcement we can have? >> $500 is the maximum. >> Okay. So, what do we have currently? >> Nothing because you don't have an ordinance. What you have currently is what the county provides and what the
state provides. >> Okay. So, please um is everyone >> Hold on. Commissioner Joseph, Vice Mayor had a question. Can vehicles stay o stay overnight in a in a spot? >> What do you mean a spot? >> You mean
>> on on a right of way? You mean a street? >> Yeah. Well, I I saw uh on North Bay Road and you know, in front of Plus of the Americas, there's like a very wide, you know, yellow line like in the middle and um and sometimes some cars are dropped off there. But this one was there
overnight and I wasn't sure if >> the car or the truck. >> The truck. Oh, that's >> Was it operating? Was it on? Was it? So, we'd have to look at each situation differently under state statute. >> Needs to be called in. >> So, is that so is that something that do does anybody know?
>> Well, it could again without having all the specifics. I couldn't tell you. >> Well, semi truck with the things, you know, that carries cars, but it didn't have any cars. >> No, but it's specific location. We'd have to look at state statute. We'd have to also look at the county park. I've seen them by the school, you know, where
the cars drop off and pick up the kids. Uh, I seen those delivery cars, those delivery trucks kind of sitting there, delivering trucks there, >> but not left there. There someone is in there. >> I might have seen one just parked there. >> I mean, somebody could have been in in
the other one cuz, you know, they do sleep there. They have sleeping quarters in in in the in >> So, are we in agreement that we want to look at some sort of ordinance? >> I Yes. Yes. Yes, I >> I think our police department could give us a little more
information on this to see if you know there are some that stay overnight. >> I think that's code actually >> or code or >> it should be actually a combination of both. >> Okay. So >> I think that guy got away with it if no one called it in >> because that's not right to have that
happen. >> Mr. city manager. Just a question as to you know what what's what is your opinion on us putting together some sort of ordinance as far as you know the the feasibility of it being uh enforceable because I know that that's always a question.
>> We we had something drafted. We can look at it update and bring it back to you. >> Okay. >> May I but it goes back to the to the first question that was never answered. I mean are we gonna >> where would they stand? Where are they going to be able to do? We gonna have
are we gonna have assigned uh locations where they drop these off? >> You couldn't come to answer that question. Yeah, you couldn't that if we coming up if we come up with an ordinance down that won't be a component of it because you all have you can't identify a place that you want it to happen. >> No, that's what I'm saying. We as a
body, we need to identify and give the staff direction >> if you want that part of the ordinance. >> Yeah, I think it's important >> for the north end of the city. Is it feasible under the causeway? No, >> they can't turn around. Mhm. >> And the other the the
other issue which we talked about when when code was um was in the academy uh that often even with the fines like yeah we can impose more and try to make it more uncomfortable for them. But at the end of the day it you know they'll just
pay it and keep doing what they're doing. And for them it becomes the cost of doing business and then they'll just increase the fees. you know, somebody's having a Lamborghini delivered, they can afford, you know what I'm saying? Uh, so I mean, we can try. I think there's it's worth looking into it if we can actually
land on the same page. >> But I mean, here we have a safety issue. They're blocking the entire street. >> I mean, kids are coming by on disagree with you. I >> cars coming by, pedestrians, you can't see when a car comes to pass on the
wrong side of the street. You're not >> right. But as I mean as it stands right now uh Mr. City Manager correct me if I'm wrong if if one of them are standing like this blocking the traffic we can still code can come and tell them to move and they can be cited as is. is we
don't >> yeah they have been again under state law you can deliver unfortunately in between Amazon trucks UPS car whatever they're heavily protected under state statute so they can drop off their wares um if they're there too long obviously
that you know we've been ticketing them um but >> so what would an or just prevent them from doing it >> what would an ordinance do then if we are preempted from doing >> again to the commissioner's point there may be time restrictions as to when you can do it if you want to do location
uh we could try to set our own rates of uh instead of just citing them for parking under what we use for the county potentially we could have our own schedule. I think it's you can correct me. I think it's uh either town of Palm Beach or Palm Beach.
>> It was it was Palm Beach. >> I think it was Palm Beach. They have an ordinance where they have some a fee structure like that. So, >> right. But we got stuck had some success. I'm sorry. >> We got stuck with the location. That's when we stopped the conversation. Hi William. >> Hello again.
>> Yes, [clears throat] that's correct. Uh the proposed ordinance or that I had brought uh forward pretty much revolved and and the centerpiece of it, the component of it was to have a specific location and certain times where they
could drop off and not but >> we couldn't come to an agreement. So >> yeah, we're very limited in in space. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. So, do we have anywhere around by Heritage
Park that we could have a drop off, a pickup area? We've looked at the only viable options that we saw from everything. We we brought forward to you as like potential and and not that we thought necessarily. It was great. You
know, it was really up up to you um to let us know whether those would even be viable. But our city, as you know, is very limited um with all of this. So, >> well, the thing is the owner of the vehicle drives to where the car carrier
is. So, it's it's just a matter of finding a safe spot for the that's out that's not going to cause um any type of traffic issue and it's more a safe location. and then the owner
drives to where they are. So, it's just a matter of the communication between the truck driver and the the owner. So, we just have to find the spot where they can go and then, you know, uh put out word that this is our our city uh north
end or south end safe area. I know on North Bay Road because you have that wide area in the yellow that is a safe spot. It may not be pretty looking. >> Count on my no. >> I know. But I'm just saying we have to have
>> we got >> we have to have some sta safe areas. >> That happens to be a safe area because it doesn't block the roadway. >> So yeah, I don't know if we're going to come to an agreement with that because it go brings us right back to where we were. Uh what was >> you also have to do it in a logical
>> you know you have to think it might not look pretty but it's logical. >> I think we can start potentially with the fines to see if there's anything that can be done Mr. City Manager. Um but as far as the location >> it's there's going to be my backyard with everyone
>> of Collins is it's totally unacceptable spot. >> Every spot is unacceptable. Well, I think if we put our heads together, we can find a northern spot that's safe and out of the way. And if it's out of the way, it it doesn't matter if it's a
little inconvenient for the truck driver because like I said, it's a matter of safety. >> No, no, no. I agree with you, Commissioner. I don't think that's the the the issue. The issue is that it would be an inconvenience to the residents of that area. Um, but >> well, over by Heritage Park, I don't
know. And are is a large truck able to pull in by >> again? You know, all the all of the potential viable areas we we brought forward to you and and that is indeed the challenge. You are correct. That is the challenge and and to your point,
Miss uh M. Madame Mayor, is the citations in the proposed ordinance in order to issue a violation, you know, a citation or a $500 fine through code enforcement. It revolved around
not parking in the designated area. That would have been the violation. But without a designated area, >> right, >> we really don't have it the violation. >> If may I So just bring us one, two,
three, whatever designated areas and we vote for it. Some people is going to be happy, some people going to be upset. >> Try to find the reality. But the reality is that we're going to have to sadly pick a place, the one that makes the most sense, you know, and deal with it. >> Okay.
>> So, someone who's aware of viable areas. Let's, you know, bring those areas to us and let's decide on them. >> I can bring those back. I'm okay with that. Yeah, >> I can bring them back. >> Do we have consensus to bring it back? We just lost Commissioner Lama.
>> Yes. I believe he was reasonable with it. So >> again, I think if you guys are eyeing North Bay Road, I'm going to say no on the consensus. >> Right. >> Well, so where else is there on the south end? >> We're not going to be able to have that conversation. Um,
>> so we have to have a few viable areas that that >> um >> whichever they are, including North Bay Row, if that's the only one, if that's the one that makes sense, is the one that is going to get chosen. So like again just bring whatever makes sense
and let us make that decision with the information you know an informed decision >> right >> otherwise we're not going to be able to do absolutely anything we have consens >> we we know that because you can't get two cars past if there's a large truck
there it's just so unsafe >> Collins you also have FDOT it's not our road so we wouldn't be able to do Colins No, no, not Collins. This is They're sitting on street off Collins. >> Yeah. >> Commissioner Llama, the discussion is
whether there's a consensus to bring back the um discussion to vote on an actual location to drop off. Remember, if you if you remember, we couldn't come to a consensus last. >> Yes. Um >> you want to bring it back? >> Yes. >> Okay,
>> great. Okay. Thank you. So, >> we'll have something for next month. >> Thank you. Okay, >> next item. >> Next item is 3F, a discussion by Commissioner Joseph regarding the central island drainage injection walls. Okay. So, at the agenda review, I had a
discussion with the city manager regarding pvious concrete, and he had said to me that we couldn't use pvious concrete because at high times of high tide, there would be nowhere for the water to seep through
the concrete and nowhere for it to go because the water level would be high. But now I found out today that we've spent almost o almost $800,000 on central island
uh fixes which have not gotten us anywhere and these injection wells would they not Mr. City Manager would they have not not have the same problem with the high water line as
the pvious concrete? >> Go deeper. Where would you pump the water at high tide? >> Um, Mr. City Manager, are you are you understanding the question? >> I think so. The injection wells are deep into the earth,
>> but you have high tide. So, where would you pump the water? >> Below. >> The level is going to be high at that time. >> It's below. It's >> into the aquafer. >> You're going down so low in the aquifer. You're beyond that saturation level. You're below the saturation level.
>> Yeah. But then that's where you have the limestone. You can't power uh force water into the It destroys the limestone. >> And that's our foundation. >> You have to talk to the city engineer. >> What is your request, Commissioner?
>> What is your request? My my uh request is to um look into [clears throat] having pvious concrete and also uh removing some of the um
the soil around um the areas on North Bay Road that are impervious to water. Uh because when they were originally constructed, no one removed the gravel. And I I know that that's a fact from
putting my election signs in. You cannot get them in the ground because you have all that gravel still there. If we uh spend uh not a large amount of money for clean fill, we can even obtain clean fill from developers that are building
houses in Golden Shores and they have nowhere to put their uh the fill they've removed for their foundations. We can um remove some with our city equipment. We can remove um in our right of ways uh the soil and
make that more pvious to water and uh save our sewers and allow for more uh uh infiltration of water rather than runoff into our sewers. Also, um I understand that our new city engineer has not
reviewed yet um the injection well issue and um I would like to before we spend any money on the injection wells um have a review by our uh city engineer that that we would be privy to.
[clears throat] >> Is that all right, Mr. City Manager? It's up to the commission at this point. We've discussed this for a long time. >> We've come up with a viable solution. >> If each one of you has a different idea, we could consider all your ideas
>> and put our drainage project on hold. >> Well, yeah. Well, it was on hold for many years uh because no one moved forward with it and the expense just got outrageous. >> Right. So we wisely went back, looked at
the plan, revised it, updated it, came up with a viable solution, which we're trying to implement, which >> we don't know if that's a solution that >> it is a solution. Well, >> it's definitely a solution. >> We the engineer hasn't even reviewed it yet. >> It has been reviewed by engineers.
>> I was told today it was not reviewed by the engineer. >> It's been reviewed by numerous engineers to move it forward. At this point, our recommendation is to move forward with it. >> Well, debating it. >> We don't even How much is it? How much is the cost on it?
>> Do we have a number, >> Susan? >> No, Commissioner. I'm sorry. We do not have a number on it. >> How can we move forward? >> It's still in in the design process and the permitting process, which is where we're at. So, we don't have any firm
numbers yet. It's part of the process. >> So if it's in the design process, how has it been reviewed by anyone? >> That is part of the process. So the engineer that designs it and then we have our engineers and our for
permitting, not just ours. Miami day county and the state D have to review those. >> Right. So you're going to be pumping polluted water into our aquifer. Is that what I just heard? Is it? >> No.
>> No. >> Mayor, is there anything further? >> No, >> I stepped away the Okay, next item. >> I I I just wanted to mention that I I I mean, we can I can meet individually with the engineer and with the city manager and
ask questions. So, yeah. >> Well, I would like to do that as well. >> Well, you could do that. Yeah. >> Okay. So we we all have that availability. >> Yeah. Nothing stops uh through the manager for you to be able to have those conversations as long as it's
facilitated manager. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So yeah, but don't we have to vote on this project going forward? >> What do we >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So when would that occur? >> You talking about Central Island?
>> We've already spent $800,000. I cannot determine the time that DURM other agencies are going to take to review something. So I cannot give you an accurate timeline right now. This is a major project that required that is involves several different agencies. So
I can't speculate at that right now. >> But we already gave direction, right? We gave direction. >> Yes. You gave us direction in the past to pursue the potential for injection wells opposed to the $56 million pump
station option. >> Okay. >> Okay. Next item. >> Next item is 3G. A discussion by Commissioner Llama regarding codification of a subsidance monitoring requirement. >> Yeah. Obviously, this is a um a hot
topic right now given everything that's happened in the city, but when when I went to Tallahassee [clears throat] for with the Florida League of Cities, I I met with the D, you know, I brought this um issue up and um he connected me with
the head of the uh Florida uh geological survey. So, we had a conversation. and we're trying I I was trying to understand what the state is doing as far as uh substance, sinkholes, etc. And
what the head of the Florida Geological Survey told me is that they do keep track of of these um let's say issues, but only if they are reported. So nobody's actively monitoring if there's
any let's say issues or there's any risk or they could see that there is some sort of uh subsilence uh happening or if there is uh a risk of some sort of you know settlement etc continuous
settlement so [snorts] what I was thinking of and I think it will be good if we could codify something into our building requirements where when it
comes to new developments, we do tell the developer that they must monitor for subsidance for two to three years. I mean, we could discuss that. This is an overall idea that I that I was thinking about. Okay.
>> How about during the construction as well? >> Well, during and after. >> Yeah, during and after. So if we could codify that and then also you know there's buildings that have been built way before 70s 80s where I
don't know how they were built. I don't know if they had pylons going down etc. I think that we have to be as a city we have to be monitoring that as well. Uh we have a lot of seaw walls going on. There's a lot of things going on and
from what I understand that a lot of the land that we see here in Sunnyhouse Beach has been dredged. You know, a lot of it was just basically everything and it was a lot of fillings and everything. So, I think that is a must that we as a
building department, as a city, we do impose some sort of requirements with these developers for any new development. And then also, you know, for older developments where obviously the developer doesn't exist anymore, you're talking about Winston
Towers, Arland House, etc., where we do monitor what's going on with, you know, underneath. So I think that this warrants further discussion but it needs to be
you know considered and I think something needs to be implemented for sure because we're a barrier island. Um, not that I am putting into question the the the current construction, but I think that it it's always, you
know, it's better to be safe than sorry and be cautious. >> Well, if I could just add something. So, in January, I had um uh regarding the Miami Beach project, um I had asked for a three-month uh
postponement for the uh for Ocean 2 and Armani to work with the developers to come to some agreement regarding um the vibration effects to their buildings and other issues. uh they were the commission gave them a
one-month um delay and in February the commission even though that the developers in good faith did not come to any agreement with the um with Ocean 2 or Armani and even
to this day they have not done anything. The commission went ahead and um with my no vote, I was the only no vote. Um the commission went ahead and approved um the project.
So, I just want the commission to know that you did not do the right thing by the residents of Armani and Ocean 2 and there was no good faith on the part of the developers to make any agreements as
to the safety of Ocean 2 or Armani during their construction. Well, they did agree to to certain things, but remember that I found out that to the state there's not been any uh movement on the part of
the developers to um to quell the um the you know whatever uh you know safety issues the residents have regarding their buildings during the construction. >> Let's thank you uh commissioner but I want to stick to the agenda item. Um so
uh Commissioner Lama, what what exactly is are you asking for? >> So basically I want to see if for any new developments we could codify um something where the developer is required to monitor the construction for
vibration, any damages or any issues to the to the adjacent let's say properties etc. And then also to continue to monitor for any uh post you know post completion subsidance um you know to
that building to the newly built building and to the neighboring areas. Then also I would like to see if we could monitor for any issues with the older buildings you know
talking about the Arland House Winston Towers etc. Now, when I spoke to um the DP and I spoke to the head of the uh Florida Ge Geological Survey, there there's monies that we could probably tap into from the state, from the the
Department of Economic, uh Development, um uh devel no the Department of Economic Opportunities. I think they just changed their name. I forgot the name, but there there is some appropriations that we could tap into
and um we should have further discussions um about this. I believe, >> mayor, if I may. So, a couple questions. So, >> we can certainly look, >> nobody's monitoring this. >> I know, but there's because it's all
part of the Florida building code. They need to change the Florida building code. The problem is that you can't impose you can't add to the building code locally. Um there's a few issues and and we can discuss it and see what parameters but for example codification
even if you could you couldn't impose on a developer building a new building a requirement for them to monitor neighboring properties on somebody else's property. They they're solely it's solely limited to their particular site. Right. >> What about with the agreement of their
neighbors? >> That you can't codify that. You can't require them to do that because state law doesn't allow you to do that. You don't have that authority. Uh the Florida building code dictates how that building gets built unfortunately. And that's why look after Hurricane Andrew, right? The huge changes to the Florida
building code because of what was learned there. But locally, you're very limited as to what you can do. Again, we'll look into it. Let's see what possibly we can do with the other aspect with the older buildings. We the city can't do any monitoring for a variety of
reasons. One, because you're imposing a huge, huge liability on yourself because if you start monitoring buildings, one, you don't have the expertise or the equipment and even if you did, if you miss something in an old building and something happens, you're responsible as a city. So, you're imposing a duty on
yourself that you never want to undertake. Um, so that's another aspect of it, too. with regards to cost of equipment and then the expertise to be able to monitor that. There's a lot of my understanding is a lot of false positives with this data. So, uh it's
really a lot of times it's on site at the moment as was explained during the hearing where you've got a big truck passing by. You're going to get a huge spike on your geer counter and unless you have data indicating what caused that, it's it's a lot of false positives. So, we can look I I mean,
I've already spoken to the building official about it. he was skeptical being able to do anything beyond the Florida building code, but we certainly can look into it. Um, but we we are heavily constrained. >> But let's say, can we impose on that building that's being built by a
developer? Let's say building A is being built by developer X. Can we impose for them to monitor any subsidance, any uh what's what's there right now in the code? Is there anything in the code, including the Florida code, that will
monitor for subsidance? >> Well, it would be their own vibrations, potentially their own building once it's built, but there's nothing that nothing in the Florida building code or your city code can impose something on if I'm building on site A that I have
requirements for site B or site C next to me. So, they could monitor. >> So, so let's forget about the neighbors. Let let's let's talk only about that building being built. I'm worried about subsidance. I'm worried about the foundation being built
correctly, etc., etc. >> That's Florida building code. >> Okay. So, the Florida building code does impose and we with our building department obviously we're we're we're tasked with imposing
Florida building code and following. Okay. So, we enforce it. So we could enforce on that building, building A, that there's no subsidance, that you know the foundation's done correctly, etc., etc. >> If it's in the if if it's in the build Florida building code.
>> Yes, absolutely. That's what your building official. I mean, there's got to be something. >> Your building official lives and breathes the Florida building code data. >> Okay. So I would like to see what exactly we we we impose on these developers and uh
>> we enforce >> and then we enforce the building. No, I I understand that but I think we need to be you know we're barrier island obviously limestone is ba b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b basically a bedrock in and in in Florida, South
Florida uh specifically. So I think we need to see what as a building department we could monitor. Now let's say we cannot impose extra cost because the Florida building code does not allow us to do that right
to a developer or to a builder. What can we do as a city? Because if we choose to say, you know what, our building department is going to contract out with a geological expert to start monitoring this. I understand that you
have your the concern for any liability. >> Yeah. You don't want to start monitoring something you don't control because it could, you know, it's it's you're you are creating a duty that you do not have. >> But but we do we are monitoring the things that [clears throat and snorts] we control.
>> You're not monitoring any of that. >> I mean our building department goes out and monitors how the electrical is being done in the in the building. how I mean in the way that's what the way it was built does not the way it was built. They don't go back and retro inspect
buildings to see how they've been built or if the electrical is proper or anything else. If an issue comes up, they deal with that particular issue. Uh but we don't go back and check. We don't even go, you know, if there's suff if if there's cracking or things of that sort,
there's a limitation, we can go and take a look. But essentially, you have geotechnical folks that would have to look at that that are completely beyond what the city can do. >> But what about if the city contracts that out >> and every two years or every year we
take a look at, you know, what our island is doing? You know, what what what the surface of of the island is, what's happening with it. >> You you mean just from the right of way or from the >> No, no. Parking for for for everything. >> Well, no. You can't you can't go on
private property and just do it. It's private property. >> But when a sorry when a property comes before us for approval, we have that short window like what happened with Miami Beach property where they agreed to do monitoring. Jerry, I'm talking
about more I'm I'm talking about more of a holistic uh approach to >> I mean as you saw as you seen with the projects coming through now your developers apparently are very well aware of the fact that if they want an approval they're going to need to do some monitoring right so whether it's
the Bentley or whether it's the Miami Beach Club >> for instance we we imposed I mean well no they they they offered >> they volunteered yeah >> so but again a developer I think is well aware at this point with these two devel developments that we're dealing with and I presume the same with St. Regis that
if they want to build in the city, they want to get an approval, they're going to have to do some monitoring in order to uh you know, for the neighbors benefits as well as what you all want and they know to volunteer that. I I I'm just surprised that in the state of
Florida, I mean, the DP, the Geological Survey, no, nobody's actively monitoring for this and they just have a database where it is based on reporting. If somebody reports it, they'll put in the
database. There's a little map where you could see, you know, sinkhole activities, etc., etc., settlement. But they're really not monitoring. I mean they do monitor for construction but yeah it's not active. It's really
based on it's really based on on reporting >> and and again there may be I believe there is >> it's really I mean >> I believe there is >> I don't understand why not >> I believe there is in the building code some provisions with regards to vibration monitoring and things of that sort but we'll certainly look into it. Look >> can we look into it and have further
discussion on this because whatever we could do I I'd like to max it out. >> Yeah. do whatever we can do. We can figure out the maximum of what we possibly can do >> and then we'll bring that back to you and that way you can see what you know we we can't address. >> It's called lobbying.
>> That's why to the answer to >> Well, safety is >> Oh, I agree with you. I'm there with you 100%. >> No, I'm there with you. Yeah. >> Florida is a very very development friendly state. >> Loving again. Yes.
>> I understand. I mean SB 180, [laughter] >> you know. Yeah, I understand that. But we need to push back and and fight the good fight and, you know, look out for for for residents. So, >> yeah, we can certainly look into the >> Yeah. >> what we can do.
>> Okay. >> All right. Next item. >> Yeah. This is uh again bu building uh and and this again goes back to safety making sure that the residents are protected and the city's protected from you know development that is not done
correctly and some some issues that h have to do with it. So, you know, looking at the building process, right? And not and I'm not talking in this um particular sense about, you know, the huge developments,
you know, like the Bentley, etc. So, I'm talking about, you know, people remodeling their apartments, their homes, etc. I would like to understand the application process, you know, because there is a lot of scammers out there.
There's a lot of contractors that don't have the skills to do what they're doing and then they hire all these um you know day laborers etc that obviously are not doing quality work and can put us
residents in danger and the city in danger and open up um you know for for liability. Mhm. >> Now, talking about contractors, and this is a big issue in in South Florida, is that a
lot of the contractors will um lease out their their license number. Okay? >> So, that is a big issue. So, going back to the start, right, when we have an application, what I would like to see, and I don't
know if this is done already. I had a preliminary conversation with Stan and with with Dylan about this, but what I would like to see is when a homeowner asks for an application or their contractor, what I would like to see first and
foremost is that the contractor that signs it is actually a manager or a partner in that uh that firm. And that could be checked in some biz. Okay, that's easy to check. And then they will have to acknowledge
that they are not allowed. We need to have them sign some sort of acknowledgement that they are not allowed to lease out their license number for for to anybody else. They will have to do the job. Another thing for for residents too is that when they
sign these applications, both residents and also the um the contractor that has the license number, I would like to see that they both signed it like some sort of acknowledgement also that there's a
sheet like a resources sheet that could tell the resident what resources they have to investigate the contractor. So, it could give them time and they could go to different websites to see if this contractor has any litigation, how many
open permits they have, any issues that they've had in the past. Okay. And then what else? Hold on. I had a whole bunch of notes, but I'm I'm ad livinging it. Hold on. So that and also our building department to
do some research on those contractors because we obviously do not want a contractor that is not qualified to be doing work here in the city because I have been witnessed to many things that are terrible in in in the city and by
terrible I mean safety issues where people could have died, it could have caused major damage or major you know um people could have been hurt basically. Okay. So, if there's any issues with litigation, I think that our building
department should look into that. Look into how many jobs they have out there because then I think that will give us an indication [snorts] if they are leasing out their license number, you know, because that's what a lot of contractors do.
And then when it comes to inspections, especially when it comes to electrical or any issues that are really really, you know, have to do with safety and people getting hurt or injured or even dying, god forbid, you know, I think
that there's got to be some safety net because I have seen our inspectors miss critical things. Electrical where the whole electrical had to be rewired, okay, in certain jobs. um and other things that tiles and the
bath um the walls of a of a bathroom were not even put with framing. Okay. And they were all wobbly. And then the inspectors, you know, there's a half point, there's a midway point where obviously there's like a preliminary
inspection where they have there's different steps. Those inspections passed. So I we need to have some sort of oversight where when it comes to these type of inspections that have to do with safety and with the well-being of of you know
our residents, the inspector gets inspected basically. Okay. If they pass something that has to do with life safety, they need to uh we need to have some sort of second step and a and a safety net.
And then that's basically it. So, I would I would like to continue this conversation to see how we could implement better systems within our building department. And I'm very happy that now we are accredited and we're improving now that we have a obviously
new new head of the building department. But yeah, when I witnessed some of these things that happened, I was I was shocked. I was very shocked. I don't understand how this happened. And then we as a building department
>> present at the inspection or is this after the inspection? >> I I I I said what I what I have to I I was I was not present but I I I witnessed it afterwards. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Okay. So I I I still don't understand how how this happened to be
honest with you. It's very scary. Very very scary. So, [snorts] and then aside from that, you know, get a better system of reporting, letting the the the residents know what are the steps and
what is missing when they have a project that is ongoing. So, that way, you know, everybody's on the same page. And I know that the a new system is being implemented, some changes are being applied. So, uh I'm
happy about that. But but yeah, definitely see how we could block, you know, contractors that are not supposed to be doing any work and see how we can identify, you know, when a contractor is leasing
out their their uh license numbers. Uh we'll obviously have to talk to the DVPR. I don't know if there's some sort of um systems in place, but also make these contractors and the residents, you know, give them give the residents the tools to investigate about these uh
these contractors so they make the right decision. Yeah. Give me a second. And then also make sure that you know when a contractor signs that application, it is the manager that is listed on Sunbiz uh or somebody that's authorized to sign
a contract and they will have to sign some sort of acknowledgement that if they are leasing out their license number, they could get in big trouble and they could even be banned from from working in the city. um [clears throat] be before we uh I
open it up uh I just because you said a lot so thank you uh and I think that we all can agree that that safety is is paramount but I think that that that there's also there's a balance of of what we can and cannot do.
Um so and I not aware what what exactly happened but I imagine it was something very terrible. It >> was terrible. >> Um Mr. city attorney regarding some of the the comments and questions by commissioner, you know, so that we can have a a good conversation.
>> I think for the most part, to the extent that you're going to require someone, I mean, we do for our contracts require someone that's authorized to sign for the company. That's not a problem. Uh we could probably have an affidavit with regards to the leasing. You know, that's not so much of an issue. U the
repercussions though from them violating that. The problem is that you can't block uh can't block a contractor from working in the city. Um nor can you uh say yay or nay. I mean certainly you can have all the materials for folks
coming in for a permit as to what they can do, what they should do with regards to a contractor, what their protections are, what they can do to investigate them. We can't undertake those investigations because we can't pick winners and losers because you can't go and say, "Well, don't use this contractor or use this contractor." Um,
>> but we do we do give out a permit based on because let's say we have a contractor that is always that has a lot of violations that we know that >> they're they're terrible. Okay? Or they're leasing out there. >> But that's your that's your right to you
as a homeowner. It's your right to contract. I can't interfere with your right to contract. >> I could look at you and say you are the biggest idiot for hiring this person because they have this or that. Even if you look at litigation, a lot of contractors have litigation and a lot of it isn't necessary. >> Yeah, I know litigation anybody could
sue anybody, but >> but you can't you can't block someone from working in the city. >> Can can we give them a sheet of paper saying these are your resources, see if your contractor has like give them a website, you could find out if they are embroiled in any litigation
>> and this is a website to see how many jobs they have. >> Absolutely. You know, because when I did some research, you know, some contractors have 300 jobs going on at the same time. There's no possible way they could have 300 jobs going on at the same time.
>> You know, that actually you can that's the point. Exactly. >> You can actually create a packet for your folks when they come in. >> That's what I like to see. >> All their resources. The only thing you can't do really is, like I said, block or make recommendations or because even
if you on the flip side, if you say, "Yeah, this contractor is okay. We've looked into it and he it's pretty good contractor." And something goes wrong. Well, the city told me they were good, >> right? >> Well, I'm not saying that we tell them it's good, but like tell them, listen, do your due diligence. These are the
resources. And also, when the contractor signs that application, they'll need to sign some sort of acknowledgement. both the contractor and the the the homeowner that if that contractor is leasing out
the or selling their their license number they they they're open to you know repercussions, right? >> But what what are those repercussions? You don't have >> No, no, but I'm sure that the the the state does not allow that does not allow to do that. >> I I'm not I don't
>> No, no. They're not by law. They're not allowed to to lease out their license. So I mean certainly we can get an F it's like we do now there's certain affidavits with all our contracts they have to sign for example >> now they have to every contractor we go not just >> anybody we do a contract with has to
give us an affidavit that they're not involved in human trafficking. Right. >> Right. >> Uh and if the repercussion to that is we're in privity in contract with them. So if we find out they lied contract's done. Right. Right. Here in this case if they sign that that's fine. They're acknowledging they didn't do it. I don't
know what kind of repercussions we would have. >> Well, let's look into what the the I'm sure there's got to be the DVD. >> It would be up to the state, right? It would be up to the state. >> Yeah, but they need to sign that and and obviously they need to understand what the >> um Commissioner Commissioner >> Yeah. Go ahead.
>> Okay. So, um I actually brought this issue last year as a discussion item, not specifically clearly what you saw, but oversight and transparency. and we have the tools right now to have everything open and it's a decision made
here that is not allowing the people to have those access to that. So I write a memo for you for you guys for everybody. I put some pictures over there of the um software that unless we change it I believe is the software that we are
using right now. So I'm going to read a little bit. So it says over the [clears throat] past year I have repeatedly asked the administration to open our digital portals so that residents can automatically view build permits, inspections and court enforcement records online. And every
time I bring it up, I am met with the same ex excuse that making public records easily accessible is somehow a privacy or a security risk. In February 2025, during a discussion item brought by me, it was suggested by the staff
that letting residents see basic building records online could lead to arson. The reality is that public records belong to the public >> or theft. Our residents should not have to fill out a public record request and wait days, even though the Mauricio's
office is really good, by the way, to find out if a permit was legally pulled for the loud construction next door or to check the status of a code of violation in their own neighborhood. >> We are operating a 21st century software system with 19th century gatekeeping
mentality. This commission approved a hefty contract for Granico Smart Golf Software. We have it right now in house. Gratus [snorts] literally advertises the software based on it citizens portal. Their own website states that smart go
design to and I quote allow citizens to track permit status and review realtime inspection results 247 on any device for increased satisfaction and transparency. The smart go official manual has an
entire section called citizen portal public view. It explicitly details how a resident can simply type in an address or a parcel number and instantly see the permits in court history associated with that unit. The software has the
capabilities billing today and we are paying for it. The administration is simply choosing to keep that feature turned off to control the flow of information. Furthermore, if anyone wants to claim this is a privacy or security risk, I encourage you to look
at Miami Day County Durham platform which operates a completely open digital portal where anyone can search property records, violation, and permits anytime. I have used it several times by the way. If the largest county in the state can
operate with total digital transparency without compromising security, our city certainly can do the same. We need more transparency, not less. We do not need to control the information. It is a matter of public record which again by
definition are public. Therefore, I send I make the same request to give us a timeline for our next meeting to fully activate the public facing citizen portal on our existing smart golf
software, giving our residents the automatic digital access to basic building and court enforcement records that they have already paid for. You are asking for oversight, we have it. You just need to be accessible for the
people. That's it. >> Mom, is that what you're asking for? >> No. No. Mine I mean, no. My mine is different. I mean, I I would like to empower the residents and to make the residents aware. Well, it could be because some of this
information could be sitting there on the website, especially if you know the contractors have any litigation against them. See how many open permits That wouldn't be on the city, would >> that wouldn't be on the city, but see if they have any violations, how many open
permits they have, if they were able to close those permits, etc., etc. So, >> the violations would be against the property owners. It wouldn't be against the the um >> No, no, no, no, no. But violations against the um against the contractor. I
mean, we could put that up in Granicus or maybe there's already another website uh that has that information. to get clarification. Let me I want to know >> we don't we don't track uh uh >> we don't track >> we don't track violations. >> No, the only violations we it goes to the property owner. So the fact that
there's a contract >> saying violations against the contractor if or or let's say open permits it's got open permits and they haven't >> check each county clerk. >> What? >> Some of these guys work in different counties. You'd have to track each county clerk.
>> Well, whatever. So, so my my point is that I would like to see the homeowners, okay, that are looking to contract um you know some work out for remodeling their homes, their apartments, etc. be
aware of certain resources because people don't are not necessarily aware right now. if we could, you know, implement or include some of this stuff within Granas, uh, fine. But I mean, I I will have to
have >> further discussions because I I think what >> Fabola is asking for could be applied to some of what I said, but I'm not too clear on how. I would have to see.
>> We everybody should have access to it. Like for example, if you see that your neighbor is doing such a bad job, only by going inside, you could see who is actually the the the the contractor that he has been he's using to. So again, this information is out there. It's for
the public, it's accessible, we are just choosing not to give it to the people >> or if someone's doing work without a permit >> as well. So, you know how many but you know how many people come to me telling me, "Oh, in this house they're doing certain jobs, blah, blah, blah." And they cannot go inside right now and
check if they have a permit or not. >> You could you could go not completely and they don't see the package or No, you can only have certain information. Everything is available and we don't have access to we're choosing not to give it to. Same thing with the code enforcement violations. I have people
from the buildings telling me what's happening in my building. they have a court enforcement I cannot get it they the association doesn't provide it to me same thing it's available there and they they could have access to it all these features are there I requested back then
when we had that discussion over a year ago to even one onone if we want to have the um like like a workshop or with the people of granos and the smart go so you can actually understand what is it that is there
>> this is public information that should be released. If you can get a public record and get that information, it is a public record. Okay? So, why are we choosing and I remember back then we have the conversation, oh, what if somebody has golden features in their
homes and they don't want to put it out there and also there are certain things that they are protected by law. Those are not going to be there anyway because they are protected. the rest everything should be accessible if we had the capability for we are choosing not to be
transparent with the people by choice and that's not good >> all right I think we should stick to the to this conversation is to what commissioner was bringing up >> um I I hear what you're saying this is this is something that I think we've all asked for a number of years at one point
I had asked the manager do we have what you would call a blacklist and I was told necessarily a blacklist but but like you know just make >> res but I wonder if there is even at the state level besides like better business bureau there I don't think there
[clears throat] is I don't think that there is unfortunately I think that it is by >> well we I think it warrants further discussion and and I'd like to also include what uh some of um the points that um Fabola made and um I don't know
maybe we could have a workshop on this Yeah. Or [clears throat] maybe it's something staff can I mean I mean I'll I'll have internal meetings with staff, you know, with the building department, see how we could implement some safeguards and um safety nets for for
for our building department for the res. >> We could have uh staff come before us and it could be open to all of us >> and just rather than workshop. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I want to be careful that we don't create more barriers to building
permits because that's probably a >> very big issue that I hear about is people taking it taking us actually the opposite too long to >> approve because they're making people we're making people go through a lot of hoops. So it can go either way. >> That's not the point.
>> But I'd like to get more details as to what exactly you're talking about. >> Okay. >> The life safety issue. >> Yeah. >> Um Vice Mayor, did you have anything? >> Yeah. No, that's it on this topic and then I have the other >> to Vice Mayor. >> Yeah.
>> No, I mean I I I mean I think if I can summarize what you're saying is you would like to help people not be uh subjected to predatory contractors. >> Exactly. >> Okay. So >> Exactly. >> Um
>> and contractors that really shouldn't be doing any work. Listen, I think we've all been there. >> People that are leasing their number. Yeah. Mhm. >> When the when the building department asked me my my guy for a a drawing, >> I thought he understood what that meant.
And what I got was a literally uh a lined notebook paper in with pencil. Um and you know, so I I I absolutely understand um wanting to protect people from the
predatory um contractors. Um, and there's no shortage of them. And but but I I >> we we whatever like let's we we can talk about it another time. But I I think we we we have to be careful. You can't >> target people, but you can
>> No, no, no. It's not targeting. >> I you know what I think you know what I think we need to do? We need to teach people the questions that they can ask >> and that's >> to get the information. the question they can ask our building department to get where you want
>> you know which um I don't know something like because they can't make recommendations but you can ask um what are you know I don't know like the last 10 projects or if you know there's a project you
like or whatever well who was the contractor there or you know there there's questions that I think we can yeah if they're out there then we give them the the resources But I I think this is about predatory contractors. >> Can we just get Please go ahead. >> Sorry, mayor. I just wanted to remind
you all that we need to be back here at 6 pm for our planning agency meeting. >> That's right. >> So, really really quick, the last item, single use plastic. I know that we're preempted by by the state, but the reason I brought this up is because I went to the public's in in front of the
diplomat and they they didn't have any plastic bags. I need to research further. But I asked the cashier. She couldn't really explain, but she's like, "Oh, no. We don't have any plastic bags because like the beach is across from us." So, I'm like, "Is it the city something?" And and she told me, "Yeah,
it's the city." So, I I went and does have uh an ordinance about it. I understand it's preempted, but I wanted to see if because of the, you know, proximity to the ocean, there's something that we could do with
regarding single use plastics or anything like that. >> We can look into it, but the statute's pretty clear, especially for plastic bags. We >> we can't touch those, but um we can look and see >> and maybe >> because obviously marine life, turtles, I mean, there's some angle that we could
use perhaps. I don't know. But the uh >> I'll talk to them, but I Okay, >> I think maybe if if with Harlandale maybe it's something they had in place before preeemption >> or maybe it's one of those where maybe it's one of those and they're doing it and they're not
supposed to. >> Yeah. Or or Publix is just uh volunteering not to use plastic. They could be volunteering, but I know that Publix and Milm's uh probably does a better job in in trying to point people to recycle those bags >> and they have made them a lot thinner
than they used to be. >> Um, you know, it's for me it's always been what the consumer wants. I go to Publix, I force them to go and find the paper bags and they stuff every single thing they possibly can in that one bag, you
know? But so it's more about more people asking for it. But um yeah, I mean obviously anything that supports the environment. Okay. >> And commissioner just to add the single we use single-use plastics you know in this big range but as you know certain things fell through the cracks the with
the language that you saw for example straws right so you can regulate straws. >> Yeah. >> Um those types of things. But for the most part if you're talking about plastic bags it's pretty but some things fell through the cracks. >> Yeah. >> We Okay. We did the plastic straws. >> We did the plastic.
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All right. Good evening everyone. It is 601. Calling the meeting to order. Mauricio. >> Commissioner Styverson >> here. >> Commissioner LMA >> here. >> Commissioner Joseph >> present. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro >> here. >> Mayor Sessan >> here. >> All members present. Ma'am.
>> Okay. So this is our zoning. >> Yeah. So this is the meeting of a local planning agency. Uh we'll be considering today two three items. The first item listed on the agenda is 2A which is a discussion and or action on an ordinance
to amend the LDRs regarding the administrative site plan review. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, members of the local planning agency. Uh this item amends article five of the land development regulations entitled development review
procedures and it accomplishes two things. Um first it removes the requirement for applicants to submit physical documents and therefore allows us to move to a fully digital review process. And the second is that it reiterates something that is currently implied but not expressly stated in the
code which is that development projects must maintain all elements of an approved site plan in the conditions of approval in perpetuity. and I I'm available if you have any questions. >> Okay. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Do we have any questions from anyone?
>> No. >> Yeah, I do have a few questions. >> Go ahead. >> So, um if it's very good to go completely digital. Um however what now when um a member of the public wants to have access to it because we don't have
right now the smart go capabilities like I said that we're paying for activated so they have to go and do a public record request to see any plans that get submitted >> current so for planning and zoning applications they're not submitted through smart gov so applicants can
submit them on like a thumb drive a CD through email and then we save them to our internal system so yes it is a public records request Okay. So, that's the only way they can get it. Okay. Um and then I have another question because we kind of have uh this issue last year
when we have an applicant with a site um modification for the states of Aqualina for the parking garage. >> Correct. So in that moment um it was said that we needed to do the
site plan modification because it was not convenient for them not to have a CO on the parking garage and we went ahead and we had that discussion in here. However, um
in the event that it wasn't clear, uh who had to pay for the under undergrounding of the utilities, uh it was the recommendation of the staff that then has to be paid by the taxpayers. >> That's no that's not something Yeah,
it's not something Amy would answer. >> Okay. So, who can answer that question? >> You can send it to me. I don't provide you an answer but we already heard the item so I'm not sure okay >> the question is the commission voted on it so >> correct correct yeah and and I voted
against it basically because when we have a very specific conditions and then later on uh which is what we are codifying right now correct that when they come the only way to change those conditions with a some site plan modification. >> Yep. >> Correct. Okay. I just wanted to put on
the record that we did it before uh that the recommendation was against the public and the residents. Now we have the resident the taxpayer had to pay for the underground which it was a condition for the certificate of occupancy of that
specific property. You can anybody can correct me if I'm saying anything wrong please. And I just want to put on the record that um we have to be very careful with these conditions and the way that the
recommendation is coming because in this case specifically now the taxpayer has to pay for the underground or those utilities that it was the condition of approval for that parking garage. >> Which project are we talking about? >> The estates at Aqualina parking garage
next door. >> I don't believe that was a condition was it? So, I don't recall the specifics of the case and I'm hesitant to give something that's not factual, but that's why the project came before you as a site plan modification and the commission had to um approve to change that condition. I don't remember this.
>> I went ahead and I did actually review it. Um that was February 2025 if anybody want to check it out. And that's the thing the the issue that I have you know that we are approving these projects with very specific conditions and then they come here or they in this case I
think it was really a big conflict of interest because they brought it to us after throwing a very lavish party to the mayor once again very conflicted getting freebies from the from the developers and then voting to give them
this kind of site conditions approvals. general modifications. So I just wanted to point out on the record that uh whoever is sitting down here should be uh very careful when uh allowing these site uh modifications
if there were very specific conditions to get those projects approved. That's only my comments. >> Okay. Um Amy, so can you please clarify again what this item is because I got a little bit lost in all this conversation as to what we're talking about.
>> Sure. This is a text amendment to article 5 of the land development regulations to strike the requirement for physical copies of documents to be submitted with zoning applications. And it also adds a line of code that says that development projects must maintain
all elements of approved site plan and conditions of approval in perpetuity unless a site plan modification is approved. So, can they still submit um the paper or are we just doing it now everything electronically? >> They could if they want to, but this is at least removing the requirement to
submit physical documents. >> And how long will this take once it approved take effect? >> Uh second reading is this evening. So, I believe it would be effective immediately. >> So, there isn't >> or is there that appeal period? >> This particular ordinance it could be, but this particular ordinance says 10
days. >> All right. So, but this wouldn't be a problem for anyone that's building a single family home and potentially doesn't have the ability. They can still choose to submit paper copies as well. >> Yes. >> Okay. Does anyone have any questions? >> Okay.
>> No. >> So, sorry. Uh, we just need a motion to approve and >> so moved. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I Okay, >> thank you. Next item on the agenda is item 2 C,
>> excuse me, >> 2 B >> 2B, I'm sorry, which is uh a discussion andor action regarding an ordinance to amend chapter 265 section 265-53 regarding sign regulations. >> Okay. Uh so this is a proactive
ordinance to require community pools to display their address um in a convenient invisible location. >> Okay. And just for clarification, I know we went through this before, but um what what does this mean for single family
homes versus condos versus uh I know we don't have any public pools, but let's say we did. So, the code specifically says this is for swimming pools owned or operated by uh condominium associations or any commercial entities. So, this wouldn't
apply to like a single family home. >> Okay. Now, I know that most condos already have signs up. Does this change their current signage? Are we going to go back and ask them to change all their signage? >> So, from my understanding, there is going to be an educational period um and then we're going to be working with the
properties to get them into compliance. Um but it is a good and proactive request is to put you know an address displayed at the community pool at least four inches in size. Well the letters four inches >> the letters right. Yes. Not the sign. Okay. Any questions?
>> I I think this is good stuff. Uh really yeah for hotels and it's the same idea like that why put the numbers on on the top of the um >> uh lifeguard stands just to you may not always know where you're standing, right? You need to give people
>> direction >> something to to be able to convey to 911, right? So, I like it. >> Okay, I'll take a motion. >> So, moved. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Okay. See,
>> the next item is to see a discussion andor action regarding a resolution approving the vision document for Town Center North and neighborhood business districts. Okay. Uh, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners, members of the local planning agency, we are pleased to
present to you the final product of the Sunny Isles Beach Vision planning for tomorrow effort, which is in the form of the vision document before you. We are joined tonight by Caitlyn Forbes from Complete Cities Planning Group, who has been working on this project since 2023. And before I hand the presentation over
to her, I just want to give a brief reminder of why we are here and the purpose of the project. The area known as Town Center North currently has no supporting comprehensive plan policies um which is really hindering redevelopment in the area. And similarly, the mixeduse business and the
neighborhood business future land use categories which we're collectively referring to as the neighborhood business districts conflict with the land development regulations. So before drafting formal policy amendments, we went out to the community to assess what the future vision of the area is and if
it has changed since incorporation of the city and adoption of the first comprehensive plan. So the document that is before you for consideration is the culmination of this extensive public outreach effort. So with that, I will hand it over to Caitlyn. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you, Amy. Good evening uh members of the local planning agency. My name is Caitlyn's planning group document and go through tonight discuss.
Let me give you as well as the next process. Got here um through a previous upper maximums for establishing for town. Whether the original vision
has or whether over the years has changed. And so study areas shown amilarive. And so one of the first and um focuses was to hear
um as part of determining whether that original vision still. And so our public outreach processed on the screen here had a focus group that had a of three different meetings upon the previous
meetings and ultimately principles that are incorporated into the vision document and are part of the bones of the And in addition to uh the outreach that we heard from over
online service, hosted two open houses, um the city also hosted did a senior roundt meeting. um um senior citizens and um they provided some meaningful insight in a different
we also had different one-on-one meetings with the property owners and as the commission had several workshops over the so what came out general consensus
repeat was the way that the public summarized the towned village neighborhood serving um rather than in the original vision as well. the desire to
or at least renovate the general public and even better perhaps providing new interment. The focus following um summary for
It's part of a good clear direction for document away from something since the um upon reveritizing open space at the ground level. So
meaningful parks linear also pathway internal to better util that current commission several times as shown on the
screen here. Questions the vision in terms certain things specifically public whether there also all form inward or
height being a key focus of the conversation. So what did we hear back from you all? Um we heard that the original vision did not stand that the new vision was more nuanced. um that you do prefer to see the scale and separation of the
commercial and residential areas stay about the same and to maintain a separation between commercial and residential uses that there shouldn't be so much of a blending especially with the commercial spreading westward into the existing residential areas.
There's a preference again mirroring the public consensus to see the existing shopping centers at least redeveloped um or renovated rather and perhaps uh redeveloped with some amount of residential to support the required u entitlements to from a financial
perspective redevelop those properties. Um, we talked about the overall open space um throughout the centers and to allow but not require retail in the residential areas.
So that brings us to the document before us which is the vision plan and that's the culmination of our public outreach process and that establishes our 20-year vision. Ultimately, that's going to guide our future comprehensive plan and land
development regulation amendments. So, we'll go through the document. Um, I believe you all have a copy of uh the plan before you and it's broken up into different chapters or topics. But the first piece
is establishing the overall planning principles. You can see them up on the screen here. Um, and they're reiterated throughout the different um chapters. So we'll get into each of those as we move forward. So the overall character is kind of the
the first chapter of the plan. And again the overall the stakeholders envisioned this pedestrianoriented low-scale village environment centered around walkable streets and varied open spaces often described as a beachy village and the various design
principles are listed on the screen there. So again, limiting overall density intensity with the exception that the commission may want to grant certain uh parcels or properties additional density or intensity when it's consistent with the remainder of
the plan and further benefits the project. Um and we have some um kind of parameters on what that looks like. primarily maintaining lower podium heights, especially around Collins and maintaining where you do have the height, making sure that it's away from
Collins Avenue. Um, also restricting, as I mentioned, commercial development to the currently developed parcels. Um, maintaining and protecting the residential properties was a key item. We heard from the focus group and the public as well as the commission that the existing residential
areas were kind of an enclave and that they were really enjoyed and that they should be protected um and not necessarily changed. Again, open space, you're going to hear discussion about different types of open spaces throughout the presentation. Uh
but overall uh encouraging kind of a a park once atmosphere where you're coming to the center, you're parking in one location and then you're able to enjoy the full um town center north whether you're going to eat and then going um to
some other form of entertainment. You're able to just park and leave your car and experience it as a pedestrian. So here's some images that we presented uh at one of the last workshops and that were incorporated into the vision plan.
And then the next chapter talks about um street design and circulation. So we're kind of going from the macro to the micro level. So in terms of formulating a new street and circulation pattern, the overall consensus was that there should be a focus on promoting
walkability and efficient circulation within the retail centers. Again, maintaining um a physical separation in terms of automobile connections from east to west. Um only allowing for additional pedestrian connections between the east and west halves of Town
Center North. Um there should again be a focus on additional streetscape design um and focusing on the pedestrian experience at the ground level. And here's some additional images that
were included as well as um have treat creating additional B Moving on to street network down once you get on site. Um again we talked about the uh
large dominating pattern of the surface parking lots that are currently there and the impact that that has to the aesthetics um of the site. There's something that we heard over and over. Um one it's not very convenient to park. there's perhaps isn't enough parking. Um
certainly when it comes to beach parking, that was something that we heard a need for um in terms of additional public parking. Um but just also being able to go and park and then get to the different shops and restaurants um that they may be wanting
to enjoy in Town Center North wasn't the easiest in the current configuration. So there's certainly an opportunity to develop um structured parking in the area and that would free up a lot of the surface parking for um additional infill
that would better mirror or uh implement the vision plan. Uh there is a note in the plan that we would like to maintain um an allowance for smaller pocket surface parking areas um for convenience
parking for different retailers like um graband go restaurants and things like that because there are certain retailers that do need quick in-n-out 105 minute type of parking. Upon the redevelopment of the uh structured parking, there's some
guidance in terms of the design of those structured parking garages. Ideally, especially along street frontages or open spaces, there should pocket um that
maintained in some smaller So, one of the key uh items of the plan here, a call for open space in terms of um varied open space throughout. Again, that can be
pocket parks, linear parks, uh connections to existing spaces. is there's an existing park to the north, but there's also existing trails and pathways um around the edges that would be key to tie into to maintain a um consistent circulation pattern through
and around Town Center North. And focusing on Collins Avenue as a new linear park or boulevard style treatment is something that was highly desired. Here's some examples of those images.
The top Collins AB treatment, the bottom being a New Town and there not every space needs to be different. uses
in site mass and height should be shifted away from Collins Avenue. An overall focus or emphasis on the lower scale. Um but when done correctly, the commission could consider taller um larger buildings as long as they maintain some sort of
podium design that um created a pedestrian friendly pedestrian scaled street frontage. Here's some examples of what that may look like. Smaller
buildings. Um, again, residential use and maintaining the existing residential areas and those were um enjoyed and well-liked and um kind of seen as an area that should be protected and maintained.
So moving into the neighborhood business districts, the study maps are shown on this slide was taking the opportunity to the visioning process through the public. The city did want
new visions or um concepts for the town or for the northern business districts rather. Um overall a lot of the same sentiments and ideas from Town Center North carried forward into the neighborhood business districts. Um the same desire for those high quality open
spaces and u pedestrian level pedestrian realm um atmosphere um enhancers were also desired in this area. Um one of the key things here was whether to focus on Collins Avenue or Atlantic Boulevard as a new pedestrianoriented
street. And the consensus was pretty split. Um it's kind of down the middle about whether upon redevelopment buildings should be oriented and focused more towards Collins Avenue or towards a quieter street towards what would be the back now along Atlantic Boulevard which
would create maybe a different feel and atmosphere um if the redevelopment was done in such a pattern. Um but again a desire to see the building height pushed away from Collins Avenue in these areas as well. So in terms of next steps um moving
forward the vision plan uh sets kind of the tone and character for the future comprehensive plan and land development regulations. Um so that would be the next step would be to move into drafting those comprehensive plan and land development regulations that would be done um when we're legally allowed to
you probably have heard a lot about SB 180 um and the implications of that. So, um, we would move forward with those steps when either SB80 is amended or, uh, when it sunsets. So, with that, we'd like to thank the
commission as well as the focus group and the public, everyone who participated in the process. U, it was great to hear from you all and, uh, we certainly got a lot of valuable information and feedback throughout the process. Be happy to take any questions.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mauricio. Do we have public speakers? >> We do. Tracy Slavven. >> Let public speaking first and then we'll hear from the commission. >> Good evening, mayor and commissioners. My name is Tracy Slavvens. My address is 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue, Sweet 200
Miami, Florida. I'm here on behalf of Desert Properties. Um just I'm here to speak on anformational basis. Um not in support or against. Uh but I do want to highlight that the vision plan document was prepared without the participation
of the property owners of these areas. It was residentbased and the stakeholders that I think were engaged for this process were the people surrounding these areas but didn't actually include the people that own the properties that are the subject of some
of these discussions and changes. Um, notwithstanding and recognizing that this plan is merely stating a vision and has no legal force or effect at this time, um, we still want to ensure that the property owner's rights are protected and not impaired by the adoption of this plan or future
amendments to the zoning code. Um, we're just asking that you don't take any rights away. We're not asking you to give us anything else. Um, and to protect those rights, we wanted to present additional language to be inserted into the vision plan that ensures that this won't have negative
impacts on the property owners in the future. So, I I have a handout here and I'll read it on the record. Um, and I'd ask that this would be incorporated into uh the item that you will hear at on the 6:30 agenda.
And essentially the new language states um it is important to note that the vision plan is just that a proposed vision for the possible future development within certain of the city's zoning districts. Neither the vision plan nor its subsequent adoption by the
city operates to change the future land use designation or zoning district on any parcel of land. The vision plan does not operate to downplan or downzone any lands within the city. Notably, the vision plan does not seek to divest, take, or impair existing rights. Those
rights remain intact following the adoption of the plan. The city also notes that there are many asbuilt conditions, natural conditions, and prior approvals that may render the implementation of the vision plan inequitable in certain circumstances on a case-byase basis. This vision plan is
not intended to nor shall it downzone down or down plan any property rights. So, it's just a protective measure. Um and and we just ask that you graciously uh consider incorporating it into the vision plan document. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other speakers?
>> Yes, ma'am. Um David Virgil. >> Good evening. My name is David Virgil. My address is 17500 North Fair Road, Sunny Alice Beach. I just want to say I was part of the focus group and I want to clarify this uh
vision document is just like a guide or a concept of how the town center north district and the business overlay district should look like in the future. It's not necessarily imposing any new regulations on current properties. is
just how the city would like the area to look like. It's not forcing developers or property owners to change at this time. And that's basically all I want to say. >> Thank you. >> No other speakers. >> All right. Um members of the commission,
do you have questions? Is there any questions? Please go ahead. I have a statement. Commissioner Joseph, you have a statement. So, originally I was apprehensive regarding the uh planners intent um as to what they would present to us, but um accordingly and um
going over what was presented to us this evening, I'd like to commend them for doing an excellent job. I just hope that um the plan as it's envisioned here could uh come to fruition one day.
Okay. Anyone else? >> If I may, >> please. >> Uh, so I mean I'm personally impacted by this, right? Because that's where I live and uh I I absolutely appreciate I think you listened and you you incorporated
the um the input of of the community. Um, I especially appreciate you um uh protecting the residential uh uh nature of of North Bay Road
and uh you know until we turn it into a truck stop. But for now, this is great. Uh and um and I my favorite piece that I had not considered that I saw in your report is the the linear park. You know,
we have a version I guess you you know like the intra coastal uh park that's on the south, right? That's south. Yeah. On the south uh south of 163rd Street. Uh, and to have some version of that, you know, even better than than that, uh,
stretch as far as possible along Collins, that would be fantastic. And it would not only be pretty, which is nice, but it protects pedestrians, as we've said repeatedly, walking on our sidewalks. We've done what we can with
with what is ours, but widening here and there. Uh, but it's not a fun experience uh on Colin. So that linear park I thought was was a great um uh feature um based on on the input that you received. So thank you.
>> Okay. Anyone else? >> Commissioner Stevenson want to read it. So the the resolution explicitly states that this document will serve as the quote foundation and provide guidance for future amendments
to the comprehensive plan and land development regulations. Meaning that once it's passed, this document can be used for the pretext to resone these districts. and they're doing it apparently. Um
once you read it, you can say that it states specifically that we don't need to do it that this is just a vision, right? Do we need this document? >> You do need to take some sort of action
to establish upper development maximums which are currently missing in the Town Center North District. That's why development's been on hold in the areas you don't have development maximums or allowances um in your comprehensive plan that are aligned with your land development code. >> So it's it's not just a guidance. We
need this document to then go and make the changes to the comp plan and land development regulations. Correct. >> Correct. You need either this plan or some sort of um direction to adopt development allowances. So it comes to the process because it's not so much
about the product but how we he how we got here. Um how much money do we spend on this? So we're working something that we don't even know how much it cost. >> Are you asking the city manager? >> Whoever can answer yes. >> How much we spend on what?
>> On this process. How much do we spend on the staff on time on consultants etc. How much this is the product of how much money did we put on this >> and how much time? >> Go ahead. >> I I don't know. I'd have to get that information.
>> Then we should not be voting on this. We don't have the information. We don't know how much. We don't know the time. I have another question. Who we we talking about the uh it was the the the the people was really involved. Surveys went
out there. Um I might be wrong but I don't recall receiving the data the do the raw data of the public input. Did we that was uh did we receive that information? >> We did we presented the results of the
public outreach and survey results at one of the um commission workshops. No, my question is like when the people went into the website and they could give the answers um did we receive those answers like that raw data from the public
whatever were the comments when they had when they could um open the survey their computers because I don't I don't remember receiving that information I couldn't I didn't read the comments of the people so I don't know if we have >> so we gave a the summary version we
condensed all the data and provided the combined results from the 400 plus respondents. If you wanted to see the individual respondents, uh we'd have to go back and see if that's something that's still available. >> Okay. Precisely. So, we don't receive the comments. We don't know. We don't have the raw data. So, we don't know
what the people were saying. We have to rely on whatever was the process, how you guys process the data. Another thing, the focus group, um what was the process to choose who was going to be part of that focus group?
So for the focus group, we opened um an online interest uh form and so we received 71 applications. Of those 71, we had criteria to choose uh the participants. We selected 30. >> One second there. And who established that criteria? >> I'm sorry.
>> Who established the criteria to select the the the participants? >> Staff did. >> The staff did like you guys did the staff. Okay. Um so you established the criteria, you decided who was going to be part of the focus group >> and then once it was selected we sent uh
the list to the city commission both all of the um people who submitted interest forms and those that we had selected and we asked the commission if you had any objections or concerns. We took that feedback and then we selected the final people on the focus group. >> Yeah. But basically was decided by you
guys because I could not add somebody that I wanted to put in there. So we didn't have a set. They provided that opportunity. Yes. >> Well, I remember seeing the the the list. We had that conversation here a few years ago. If I'm not u mistaken, I think it was in 2023 when we were having
those >> 2024. >> Oh, 2024. Okay. Uh because they start working on January 2024. That was uh one of the first meetings. Correct. Okay. So uh but I remember seeing the list and I remember having that conversation
because if if we don't have part of the process then it can be uh that likeminded people were chosen for this. On top of that I spoke to the um developer or the land owners the biggest land owners of
that area and they expressed their frustration. They said that they had courtesy calls with the staff and with the consultant but they were not part of the conversation. So we are here opening oursel to like big liabilities when we may or may not uh infringing in the
property rights of the owners of these uh parcels. So um once again the process um we don't receive the data we don't know how much it costs. We don't know erh exactly it should be out there who
is the people who participate and who are the people in these focus groups. Um the people more impacted economically is not a part of the conversation. Uh so I cannot support this. I don't I don't
believe unless we have all the information available and the stakeholders are part of the conversation that we should be creating this the these type of plans as if if anything we are just opening oursel to big uh liabilities. So I'm not in favor
of this uh vishue >> Mr. city managers just for clarification because we've had quite a few meetings about this and we received lots of uh data and we were given the opportunity for input as well as providing um our recommendations for the focus group. Um
can you just clarify for the record because I know this has been a very long process and although we did go through an entire presentation right now that clarified exactly when we had the meetings um if you can please just quickly summarize so that we can get clarity. Yeah, I think I explained some of this in the workshop, but the process
that we're going through is part of a procedure that we need to go through to correct our some inconsistencies in the code. So, it's part of the legal process in order to get where we want to be should the commission decide to change
the code. The entire process from start to finish has been open, transparent. Everybody has been involved. Everything's been approved by the commission. Our staff and planning experts who have the specific expertise to bring it forward have been brought to
you and I think you've been shown that tonight. So I don't think there's anything further regarding it. >> Um, Commissioner Lama. >> Yeah. So yeah, it's been it's been a long process. I I do
respect and and like the feedback from from the residents. Um I'm I'm in agreement with the vision and with the comments from from uh from my colleagues here and uh I just hope
because there's a lot of factors that need to be completed so this vision can be implemented. Obviously, there's property holders there. You have RK, which owns a lot of the uh commercial property in that area. You have Desert
as well. And I think that we as a as a city um are going to have to work very hard to be able to translate this into our LDRs and and be able to bring this to fruition because we already had a vision
in place already and and it went nowhere. So this is the first step. I I I like it. I agree with it and I hope it can be um implemented. I just think that we need to be very steadfast and and be able to,
you know, implement what the residents have have um asked for the feedback they've given us because I think it will be something that will balance, you know, walkability, pedestrian safety with a residential aspect and like an
entertainment aspect that will be more in line with what other cities have done like Dural. uh Dana and some other municipalities that you there's development there, but you don't feel like the development is
on top of you and choking the oxygen like is sucking the oxygen out of the municipality of the city. So, I hope that this this really comes to fruition. I I am in agreement, like I said before, but I think it's going to take a lot of
work. Uh and I hope that we and other commissions that follow us because this is not going to be implemented not in five years, not in six years, not in 10 years. So I I pray and hope that the the the people that follow us will be able
to to implement this. >> Yeah. Thank you. and that the stakeholders, the the the the property owners and everybody that is involved in this understands that this is for the good of the entire community. >> Okay. Vice Mayor,
>> do you have something to add? >> No. Okay. All right. >> Mayor, if I could just add one cave. So, Mrs. Slavins provided you some language that they wanted to add to the I spoke with her earlier or communicated with her earlier that I object to the
language and I recommend against it. It's a hard no for me, but I just wanted to put that on the record so when you do read it and consider it that my recommendation is no. >> Okay. >> Okay. So into and to um Alex's point um we are creating I mean we are approving
a 20-year plan vision. um we should allow them the new commission to do this. In a few months the majority is not going to be here and they should be the ones making this decision. If not we can put this in a referendum and let the people speak you
know. So ba basically uh it takes a majority of three people just to decide what is the vision of the city because we the point is that I read it all and we are not basically challenging anything again when we don't even know how much this is costing us. So we don't
have the full information and we've been in this process is true for many many years right now. Um but we still not there. So I just don't know without the information without being a clear
process like always my issue is not with the product is with the process. To say that is being very transparent doesn't make it transparent. Like I said, I have people here that they send me their their comments that they put in the survey and we never read those. So there
is some people like to read and other people don't like it. But I would like to see what is the people giving us as their comments on the surveys and we don't we that was not presented to us. So, um I I I just cannot find a way to
justify a vote for this. When we wait for so long, we can wait a little bit more and have a a bigger conversation. Nobody. Nobody. And we have all go through elections and campaigns wants to see big buildings on the west side west
side of Collins. I think that that is set and done in the minds of the majority of the people of Suns Beach. So however uh there is a lot of issues and and like I said the people that is going to get the more impacted by this we're
not part of the conversation so I I I cannot support this. >> Okay. Thank you. Um I'll take a motion. >> Make a motion. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. >> All in favor? >> I. >> No. >> Okay. Noted.
>> All right. So, uh, this concludes this meeting. Should Are we okay just to stop and keep going or do we need >> No, may I need a few minutes? >> Okay. We'll take a five minute break. Don't go away, please. Meeting adjourned and we'll start our actual commission
meeting in 5 minutes. Thank you. I need like what is that little thing the five o'lock whatever the 4 hour whatever >> Red Bull. >> Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
>> That's true. That's true. >> All right. Good evening, everyone. It is 6:51. Calling the meeting to order. >> Did you find anything? >> Okay.
Commissioner Cyson >> here. >> Commissioner Joseph >> present. >> Commissioner Llama >> here. Vice Mayor Viscara >> here. >> Mayor Setchin >> here. >> All members present. Ma'am. >> Okay. Thank you. All stand for the pledge of allegiance. David, will you
lead us, please? >> To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay.
Rabbi, invocation, please. And we'll do your proclamation right after. >> Sure. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. It's wonderful to see you. Good evening, >> dear God, master of the universe. We stand humbled before you this evening
and we recognize all of your blessings that you have bestowed upon us. We are mindful of the fact that you have blessed this city with wonderful leadership, direction, dedication, and a guiding spirit which has resulted in the many successful achievements over the
last 28 years. We recognize that we are gathered before you this evening in pursuit of fulfilling your wishes as you dear God empowered humanity with seven basic universal laws after the great flood of Noah. These laws were once
again reaffirmed by Moses at Mount Si to be taught to all of humanity. Universal laws that provide a framework of law, order, and justice which will allow humanity to settle the earth in a civilized manner. We recognize that we
have been entrusted by the citizens of Sunny Isles Beach to perform this sacred duty. Almighty God, please provide us with the consciousness to constantly be aware of your presence so that we are consistent to our mandate. Please grant
us the courage, strength, wisdom, intuition, sensitivity, and the patience to succeed so that we leave a legacy of having a positive impact upon society for many generations to come. Protect our police force, our servicemen and
women serving domestically and overseas in the name of freedom and democracy. Please give them the peace of mind, insight, and intuition to be successful. Please guide our city staff to make the right decisions with honesty, integrity,
and knowledge for all of our citizens into the future. And may they continue to serve as positive role models for our beautiful community. May everyone gathered here tonight and all the residents of Sunny Alles Beach be granted with good health, peace of mind,
and prosperity. And let us say, amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Mauricio, thank you for the changes and then >> Yes. So, just to go over really quickly the changes to the agenda. Um, if you all recall earlier today at the 3:00 meeting, the commission agreed to move
uh the proclamation for education and sharing day to tonight's meeting. Um, we also have some additional information which is a resolution that was provided to you all uh appointing the delegate and the alternate to the Miami Day
League of Cities. Um item 9 T has been deferred which is a resolution establishing the uh waiver discounting and replication of adopted municipal fees
and uh there is an add-on by Vice Mayor Viscara for a proclamation recognizing April as National Poetry Month. So, if we can just have a motion to approve the first two items and then we'll do the request by Vice Mayor Viscara separately.
>> I get a motion. >> So, >> second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I >> Okay. >> Thank you. And then a motion to approve Vice Mayor Viscar's add-on. >> Motion. >> So move. >> Second. All >> in favor? I I >> Okay.
>> Thank you. And then we'll read the proclamation for education and sharing day. The proclamation reads, "Whereas equality education is one of the significant foundations for the continuing success of our state, our country, our society at large, and in
the city of Sunny Alice Beach, we strive for the betterment of all citizens through an increased focus on education and sharing. And whereas through providing the possibility of an excellent education for all, especially children, with which to gain knowledge through rigorous study, we can create
hope for a brighter, kinder, and more united and prosperous future in the lives of so many. Whereas the educational system was also focused on building character by emphasizing the cultivation of universal moral and ethical values that have been the bedrock of society for the dawn from the
dawn of civilization including the values known as the seven Noah hyde laws. And whereas the leading global advocates for the advancement of education, the Lubovich Rebi Rabbi Mansam Sneen of righteous memory stress
the importance of moral and ethical education as the bedrock of humanity and the hallmark of a healthy society and strongly urged that education be reinforced by the inclusion of strong moral values. And whereas in recognition of the Reby's outstanding and lasting
contributions toward improvements in world education, morality, and acts of charity, he was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal. And the United States Congress has established his birth date as a national holiday to raise awareness and strengthen the
education of our children. And whereas April 9th, 2026 will mark 124 years since the Reb's birth. And the date will be celebrated across the United States and around the globe in tribute to the Reby's vision, guidance, and leadership. And whereas for more than 40 years, the
president of the United States has recognized and honored the Reby's vision each year on that day by proclaiming it education and sharing day USA. And now therefore, do I liss as mayor and on behalf of the city commission of the city of Sunnyel Beach hereby proclaim
March 29th, 2026 as education and sharing day in the city of Sunnyal Beach. Thank you. We come down please. Okay, we'll do uh your opening statement. >> Yes, please. >> Good evening, ladies. And we attendance
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of the city's code of ordinances. Any necessary removal will be made at the direction of that serve. Okay, welcome everyone. Um, I know we all just heard the opening message, but as I always do, I will remind you if you
would like to speak on any of the items, please fill out a public speaking card. Uh, you can do that now. you to change your mind, that's totally okay. You can u pull it out later, but it will be uh not possible for you to speak once the public comment is closed. You have three minutes. Uh please stick to that. Um
please respect our rules of decorum. Uh I ask the members of the commission to obviously do the same. Um and uh like the opening comment says, we are are here for you. We're here to hear you. Uh but we got to follow the rules. So with
that, Mauricio, first item. Okay, first item is uh ordinances first reading 6A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunals Beach, Florida amending chapter 265 article 9 section 265-53
entitled required signs no permit required of the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny Al Beach requiring the posting of certain signs at community and commercial swimming pools providing for repealer providing for severability providing for codification providing for
an effective update. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Uh this is an ordinance to amend uh the sign code of the land development regulations. And this is a proactive ordinance that will require all community and commercial swimming pools to have an address posted at the
pool deck that is visible during nighttime and daytime um with lettering that is at least 4 in in height. >> Okay. Do we have any public speakers? >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. Steven Hirsch. your name and address.
>> 17201 Collins. Uh I support this ordinance. Um if it'll even save one life, then it's it's worth the need to put addresses on pools where they're visible. I know in the hotels and in the condominiums, uh
we have family that visits and god forbid an emergency where an address is needed in a hurry. It's it's certainly something worthwhile. I do have just one comment. It relates to the business impact statement that's
required by uh Florida statute 166014A. Um it states that the limited cost of producing a sign to be posted as required by the ordinance. My only comment is several pool decks and pools are going
to require more than one sign because the ordinance is written requires that it be visible from the pool deck. It also requires that the sign be visible daylight and um after dark. So that will
require some type of lighting. the condominiums on the beach and the hotels on the beach may then need turtle friendly lighting. Um, whatever it costs needs to be done. But I just believe
that the business impact statement should clearly, no matter what the issue is, always reflect the true known costs of something as is the purpose of this. Thank you for letting me speak. >> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> No other speakers. Public comment is
closed. Any comments or questions from the commission. >> Make a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Com. Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Vascara. >> Yes.
>> Commissioner Cyson. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fetchin. >> Yes. >> The ordinance passes on first reading. Second reading. Will be scheduled for April. >> Okay. Next item. Next item is 6B, an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Alis Beach, Florida,
amending ordinance number 2025-635, approving budget amendment number BA252602 to the city's operating capital improvement budget for the 2025 20226 fiscal year. Authorizing the city manager to do all things necessary to
implement the terms and conditions of this ordinance, providing for an effective date. Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is a budget amendment that will allocate transfers out to support capital projects funds. It
allocates the purchase of eight marked and two unmarked police vehicles, replacement of lifeguard towers, purchase of a jet ski for ocean rescue, uh an allocation of monies for the Golden Shore pump station, and the intra
coastal sports park. >> Okay. Do we have any public speakers? No ma'am. >> Any comments or questions from the commission? >> Yes. >> Yes. Go ahead, Commissioner Joseph. >> So, regarding the lifeguard stands, this these five additional lifeguard stands,
this is in addition to what we've already replaced. >> Yes. >> Okay. So then regarding and when when is that to occur? >> The replacement. Um, as soon as this is approved, they
will be ordered and they take 8 to 10 weeks. >> Okay. So, we still have the um the proposition as to covering them somehow with some type of covering.
So, I'd like to bring back at some point uh regarding the um the request of Romero Bridto that he has offered to cover all of our
lifeguard stands. I know if anyone's gone online, you see what he's done over in Europe now. Um he's celebrated everywhere. and for the city of Sunny Isles to turn down a a um celebrated
resident artist who has offered he's offered um artwork for our new park which was turned down. He's offered to um do the artwork for all of our lifeguard stands. That was rejected. I
just don't understand it. It it makes no sense that the mayor would in her guidance would reject something like that. >> Okay. Thank you. Um I'll take a motion. >> No, I have more comments. >> Go ahead.
>> Okay. So, >> Oh, sorry. I Sorry. No, you can finish. >> I needed uh to speak about one other item. >> The um $500,000 for the additional $500,000 for the sports park. I've asked and asked for several months now.
Mauricio, would did you find any documents that you said you had sent to me? >> I haven't been able to chance. I haven't had a chance to look, >> but I'll get an answer. >> Found anything that you had sent to me. Um regardless of my um previous several
requests regarding all documentation uh between the city manager's office and the uh contractors uh from the beginning of this project until today regarding additional costs,
change orders, anything. I have not received anything. um and I have a right to oversight and that has not occurred. Um to um offer an additional $500,000 now when
I don't even know what the reasoning is or uh what has occurred in the in the past. I I cannot be for that. >> Commission project halts. >> When did you make the request? >> Mauricio, when was my first request to
you? How many months ago? >> Uh I've made first of all, I made an open request at the commission. >> Okay. >> And then I made previous requests through Mauricio. >> Okay. So you have the request. Do you have a sense of when you can provide that?
>> Uh should by tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Should be able to have >> Okay. But that's too late for today and we have this now to vote on. So I I have to vote no. >> Okay. I can't um offer any any other funding until I know where the previous
funds have gone. >> Thank you, Mr. Stevenson. >> I'm going to make it easier for you, Jerry. I'm going to make a motion to approve B, C, and D. Anything and everything related to uh safety, security, and our police and lifeguard
stations. However, I have questions about A, E, and F. So for eight $815,000 transfer out to support the funding needs in the capital project fund as it is we have there almost $34 million
not really tied to anything. So I want to know where is this A15 coming from and why are they going now to capital improvement plans? >> Mayor, may I? Yes, please go ahead.
>> Um, A goes with ENF. So the 815 is from fund fund balance that is now going being allocated to those two specific projects. 315 for the Golden Shores Pump Station to complete that project and 500 as Commissioner Joseph pointed out for
Inter Coastal Sports Park. >> So it's coming No, it's not increasing the the the transfer. It's actually decreasing it. >> It it's from one account to the other. >> Yeah, I know. But here we have it as an increase, not as a decrease. And page
three, page 22. Okay. So for the Golden SH pump station 315 to fund project cost to Jerry's point, where is it going exactly? Why do we don't have a detail about it? What is it that exactly is going to be funding?
F the $500,000 of of the intra coastal sports park. Uh one thing about it is that we have a contract here 9M for $200,000 that you guys are asking for intra coastal park doesn't have the
detail why you guys asking for those 200,000 but here you're asking for 500 even before we vote for the NIM. So like I said, we need a lot more detail. If we're going to be voting for this, we need to know what is additional project
cost means. So I'm making a motion to approve B, C, and D. Like I say, anything and everything related to to safety and our police department pending more information to be able to approve A
and F. So I make a motion. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Okay. Um, Mr. City Manager, uh, for clarification, how difficult or how quickly would you be able to get the additional um, information that was
requested? >> Well, we have a workshop on Tuesday, so any of those questions could have been asked and answered prior to the meeting. So, any delay now, if you break out some of the items could potentially delay the opening of the Inter Coastal Sports Park
as well as the completion of the pump station. So we would not recommend that. We would ask you to approve the items and we could provide clarification after. >> You didn't get these questions after the workshop. >> I did not nor did I get them at the workshop. >> It was
go back to last month's commission meeting when I asked for certain documents. >> They they were not supplied to me. >> What did you ask for? >> The thing with the workshop, if people are not aware, is that those workshops are not here. They're in the first
floor. They are not um um projected in the um they're now open in the they're open to the public, but they're not broadcasted. So unless you come here and you are there, actually I was in Washington DC and I was participating
and like in every other of the workshops and listening to you guys, but I'm not going to be participating in that very obscure process. We would have those answers if the financial director was there how she used to be. But now that
you guys change the rules of engagement and she's not here to provide those answers, this is right now where the staff has to be to answer those questions. So it was under your direction that we changed that. So >> I I don't make any unil 2023 decision.
Yes, it was during a memo. It I have the floor. So it was on a memo. Commissioner Commissioner Stew. Okay. >> For the record, the though that workshop is for the purpose of allowing the public to participate in additional time in in the past, the agenda
>> the agenda reviews were done behind closed doors individually, which you could still do. >> So, did you have an agenda review with the manager? >> I don't need to. I know how to read. >> Okay. So, you could have asked him for this the point that he made. >> Well, that's why I'm doing it right now because I'm going to >> We could have had the information today.
No, I want to what you know what I'm going to do with transparency in front of the people's in front of the cameras that that preparing in advance to have all the answers so the people they don't know about it I'm not doing that so right now like I said we don't have here
the breakdown of those 315,000 we don't have the breakdown of 500,000 what but we are asked to vote on it blindly we cannot do that that is not best practices we don't have here the staff that can answer those questions. And
like I said, that was changed in 2023 via a memo. Before that, since the inception of the city, we have the staff sitting down here answering those questions. So, of course, this is not transparency because we don't have the expert here to answer those. And again,
that was under your direction. >> Okay. The city manager is is the head of the city that can answer those questions. Mr. City Manager, can you give me some clarification on some of these questions, please? Sure. Our deputy city manager can provide the information >> please. >> Okay. So, first just a clarification the
page three of three that you mentioned the increase. So on page two of three there is the decrease from fund balance. Page three of three is an increase to the capital fund. >> So that's to cover those two projects.
The $500,000 part of it is MBR which is before you tonight. Um, and that had to do with the need for a retaining wall so that the where these this easement property that was donated to us meets
our property. There was a gap there. So, we have to um fix that. And then there was um NMBB water required us to move a water line 350 ft to the south. Um, we decided to based on your recommendation
to extend the sidewalk further west so that we had a wider sidewalk in front of it. All of those things were change orders that we have been um working towards and are bringing to you now tonight. The 500,000 in total is for the whole project cost. So, if you recall
last month, we brought forward to you um Keith and Associates. We had to change order with them because there's a design requirement for that retaining wall and other things. Um we have to pay for um additional permitting due to the
retaining wall. So that project cost in total. We're estimating um the 500,000. So we're putting it in the bucket. Hopefully, we don't need all of it, but we wanted to have the money in case if we need to um spend more money on um something to
get the project done on time. >> Okay. So, if I may ask Oh, I'm sorry. One more thing, Mayor. >> And the 315 for the Golden Shores pump station, that was in last year's budget. It wasn't carried over to this year because we were supposed to be finished
last year. So, that's why that one's a reallocation instead of an allocation. >> Okay. Okay. So, may I ask why it's taking so long to get um Commissioner Joseph's request if you were able to answer the question right now? >> I'm really sorry. I and I apologize. I I'm I don't recall getting it, but I
will whatever I have I will get to you. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, about the intra coastal uh park uh we give it we give the contract to the lower bidder. Okay. It was around 3.1 millions back then. you it was added a 10% contingency
which it was eaten and now we asking $500,000 more. So it seems like the lower bidder was not the more qualified actual lower bid and I don't know who's a contractor by the way. So it's nothing against the contractor. So right now we are almost
like a million over the lower bidder and things like the because I read the contract. So some of the stuff that is now put in there like you said it's a retaining wall of a park that is on the ocean. So how can now they be thinking that we're going to be needed that also
the CCTV camera uh wiring same thing a whole city from head to toe has a CCTV cameras so they could not think of putting the scope that we were going to need that wiring. So we did apparently the scope wasn't the actual scope. So
now they're asking for letter here, letter there. $300,000 is a lot of money. $500,000 is a lot of money. So we are doing something wrong when we are beating and giving this to apparently the lowest bidder. So like I said, I have a motion on the floor to approve B, C, and D. Uh everything in for our
safety uh department, police department. Um and I do believe I have a second. >> Okay. Um, I'll take a motion for this item. >> No, but we have to vote on her motion. >> No, we have to have this first and then
we we can amend it. >> No, I'm making a motion. I make a first motion with amendment to approve B, C, and D. >> Alan, >> there's a motion on the floor. It's been seconded to uh I guess approve, but
amend >> with amend. Okay, >> it's amended. with amendment. >> Okay. So, we're not approving, we are amending. >> We're approving with amendment. >> Understand the motion is to amend the item. >> Well, I don't know. Is the motion to approve with amendment? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Approve with the amendments. Okay. I
need a second. >> Second. >> Okay. Mio. >> Commissioner Joseph? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro? >> No. >> Commissioner Stent, >> yes. >> Commissioner Lama, >> no. Mayor Fetchin.
>> No. >> The motion fails two to three. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So motion on the item as presented. >> Okay. I need a second. >> Second. >> Okay. Mauricio. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> No.
>> Vice Mayor Viscara. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Cyson. >> No. >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fetchin. >> Yes. >> The ordinance passes on first reading 3 to two. Second reading will be scheduled for April.
>> Okay. And if we can for the next reading have all the additional details. Thank you. >> How can you Sorry. Next. >> How can you vote without my receiving those documents? >> Because I don't need those documents. We've reviewed all of this already. Go. Uh this >> you cannot review something you don't have.
>> Next item. >> Next item is 7A. It's a public hearing for a resolution approving a vision document inclusive of the geographic area known as Town Center North and neighborhood business zoning districts.
>> Okay. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Uh we are presenting to you tonight the final product of the Sunny Isles Beach Vision Planning for Tomorrow effort, which is in the form of the document before you. Uh we're joined tonight by Caitlyn Forbes from Complete Cities Planning Group who started this
effort in 2023 and we officially launched the public outreach effort in 2024. Um the area known as Town Center North currently doesn't have any comprehensive plan policies supporting it which is really hindering redevelopment in the area. And similarly, the neighborhood business districts which is the mixeduse
business and the neighborhood business future land use categories uh currently conflict with the land development regulations. So before we bring to you specific policy amendments to uh fix those problems, we went to the community to see if the vision for those areas um
remains the same as when the city was incorporated with this first comprehensive plan or if it has changed. And so that's what is being presented to you tonight. Uh the vision document is a guiding document. Um but we still need to bring forward to you those specific uh policy amendments that would come in
the future. So with that, I'll hand it over to Caitlyn. >> Thank you. Good evening, Madame Mayor, members of the commission. Caitlyn Forbes with Complete Cities Planning Group. On behalf of uh the planning staff, we're excited to present the final vision
document and product to discuss tonight. Guys, if you get seasick, zoom back to the beginning here. Okay, so tonight we're going to be talking about the history of the project, how we got to this step, the
public outreach process and findings that got us here, um the vision plan itself, and the contents of the plan, and the next steps moving forward. So, how did we get here? Several years ago, a planning analysis was done that identified inconsistencies between your
comprehensive plan and your land development regulations and also noted that there was a need for clear upper maximums for various land use categories. Um it found that it was ambiguous in the comprehensive plan and or conflicted with your land development
regulations. Um, so before going down the process of establishing those upper maximums, the city wanted to take a moment and determine whether the vision for Town Center North as originally established in your early 2000's comprehensive plan still stood or if
there was a different direction um for this area in terms of redevelopment plans uh based on the surrounding redevelopment that happened u in the area particularly east of Collins and in the surrounding um neighborhoods. So the area for Town Center North is shown on the map here. Generally uh west
of Collins, north of 162nd Street. The public outreach process was uh a fundamental and iterative process throughout um the vision document drafting and the various efforts are in
here. primary efforts was the establishment of the focus group meetings the meeting ultimately um the suggestions from the focus group are included in the presentation here and
were um implemented of course into the vision document. We got a lot of great feedback um from the team there that included um a a wide range of different um uh stakeholders within the city. We also held two different open houses. We
got um over 400 respondents to our online survey that was open to everyone as part of the general public. Um we hosted different popup events and met with um the senior um roundt. We also did different one-on-one meetings with the property owners and commissioners
and we held uh at least three different commission workshops um over the last several years. So the public opinion and general consensus summary is shown on the screen. Essentially what we heard at the end of the day was don't repeat the east
side. Um there is a desire for this lower scale um pedestrianoriented and more neighborhood serving um district within the uh city. Ideally the term beachy village was kind of coined and that's what uh the the pattern of the
future redevelopment was kind of envisioned as was this again lowercale beachy village environment. there was a overall desire to update um and or redevelop the commercial plazas if it wasn't total redevelopment. Um the
various stakeholders did want to see different aesthetic updates to the commercial centers. They gave a lot of good suggestions and input as to what that looks like. One of the things you'll hear repeated throughout the presentation is a call for increased open space and varied open space as well
as enhancing the treatment along Collins Avenue. is something um that could become a unique feature for Town Center North and perhaps create a precedent in other areas. Um as I mentioned, the focus group gave us some great guiding principles that are the foundation of the vision plan in conjunction with the
other stakeholders. Um generally summarized is again keeping height away from Collins Avenue. You'll hear that repeated in addition to the open space. Um improving the pedestrian experience and really focusing on the public realm. um meaning what you experience as a pedestrian as you move and walk through
the space um through Town Center North. And incorporating structured parking uh was noted as creating an opportunity um for additional infill and more efficient and effective uh parking plans throughout the town center north.
So we met with the commission um as I mentioned three different times. The dates are shown on the screen here. We asked a series of different qu out uh the commission side and make with the public.
The overarching question was whether the original town center vision still stood. We asked whether there were certain tradeoffs that the commission would be willing to give to entice redevelopment and what those would look like. We talked about what residential and commercial redevelopment would look like and where that would go.
um Collins Avenue treatment and design was a topic of discussion as well as the overall form and scale and character of the building location um and where that height should be concentrated. So what we heard was that the original vision did not stand that the new vision
was more nuanced um and that you'd prefer to see a separation of the commercial and residential areas in terms of the east west half split that currently exists. the commercial should stay in the general vicinity of where it currently lives and that there should be
a protection of the existing residential areas that those were well-liked and enjoyed by the public and should remain generally the same. There was also a discussion about um the height of those commercial centers generally leaning um
towards alignment with the um general public which is for that lower scale um village environment but potentially allowing for some additional height um with mixeduse development as long as the height is kept away from Collins Avenue. Again, consistent with what we heard
from the public, we also discussed the redevelopment of the existing shopping centers um and what that looked like and what the parking uh redevelopment scenarios could look like and how we could better utilize that space um by
having infill development and the structured parking as I mentioned before. and we generally discussed um not requiring but allowing for ground flooror retail in the residential area but ultimately through further discussions landed on uh stronger
division between the two uses. So all of that outreach got us to the vision document that's before you. You have the printed copy for reference and the vision document what is it? It's ultimately a culmination of all this public outreach. Um and it sets a
macrolevel uh vision for redevelopment over the next 20 years. Ultimately, it'll guide and inform uh future comprehensive plan amendments and land development uh code amendments as Amy mentioned earlier.
So on the first page um or around there is the overarching uh planning principles that are summarized and these are gone into in more detail on the following pages. to micro visual sites. So the overall character
is one of the first chapters and again the stakeholders envision a pedestrianoriented low-scale village environment centered around walkable streets and varied open spaces. Again the term beachy village and you can see some of the specifics listed on the screen. Um overall the desire to limit
intensity and density with the caveat that the commission may consider additional um heightened intensity on certain parcels where warranted and where the project demonstrates that it's meeting all other elements and truly providing a public benefit. um the height along Collins with uh
noted as having a preference of approximately one to three stories along Collins Avenue. Um in conjunction with again kind of keeping that scale away and maintaining the pedestrian feel at that ground level, keeping the height more towards the west
and um of course the open space. And one of the things that you'll see throughout um some of the later chapters when we get to streets and circulation and parking is the concept of the park once um atmosphere so that you can park, leave your car and enjoy all that the
Town Center North has to offer. Here's some pictures that were included in the workshop and included in the reference. The street design and circulation is the next chapter. Um you can see that the um
emphasis is on creating new internal streets throughout Town Center North, at least on the um eastern half, I should say, where the existing commercial centers are. That creates alternatives for pedestrians to experience and enjoy um the district without being directly
along Collins Avenue and creates more of that pedestrian scale feel. And here's some pictures existing um were something that were being well enjoyed and likeded.
The commercial parking and circulation. Um, again, a preference for structured parking to free up some of those large surface parking lots that could be better utilized while also providing additional parking that better meets some of the public parking needs. We heard a need for um not only more
efficient parking, more convenient parking u but just additional parking in general. Here's a picture of the existing um park. Obviously, um there's a lot that could be done as either the surface
parking lots to infill those as we mentioned when the structured parking garages are incorporated into redevelopment. It's suggested that along at least the street facing frontages or when facing a uh public open space that there's a liner
building um to help screen the uh parking garage component. It doesn't necessarily need to be around all four sides, but the uh spaces or facads that are facing those public realms should be screened. And there's also a component about
convenience parking spac. So people that are just going to be there 10 15 minutes grabbing dinner and leaving. It's important for those retailers to have that type of parking as well. but on a much reduced scale as compared to the surface parking that we have currently.
The open space was the PL um was suggested throughout the planning process as a vital need. Um people really want spaces to be able to gather with the community
um in different forms and fashions. It doesn't need to be a large programmed park. It can be plazas and um small pocket parks. Um, it could be the Collins A Linear Park. Um, like we had mentioned, that could be a new space that, um, really creates a better
pedestrian atmosphere, but also connects to some of the existing trails um, and parks in the area. So, here's an example on the top flexible Not all of programmed. It can just be
flexible. And then getting to the buildings themselves. Again, I'll repeat it because it's important shifting the building mass away from Collins Avenue where possible with the caveat that you
some larger podium style buildings when it's designed appropriately and uh mitigates its impact to the public realm and enhances the public realm through different design trade-offs. um focusing on limiting the commercial uses to the existing parcels and protecting the existing residential
areas and not encroaching further into those residential areas was important. And here's some examples of what the redevelopment scale and
podium and the pedestrian realm scaling. And again, the existing res to be the since the city was going through the process
to any different um concepts for these areas as well. Um these areas haven't been um as developed as the east side of Collins in terms of redevelopment. So there's still redevelopment opportunities here. Here's the second slide showing the additional study area
and generally a lot of the same themes um that were favored in town centered in the northern well scale the focus on the additional open space
whether development the pedestrian focus should be oriented towards Collins Avenue or flipped and focused towards Atlantic Boulevard which would create um a different character and feel for the area. Um but the consensus was generally split down the middle. There wasn't a
strong consensus one way or the other, but uh there was a consensus to again in these areas, keep the height away from Collins Avenue and push it um away from the rightway as much as possible. So in terms of next steps, the next steps would be, as Amy mentioned, to
bring forward the comprehensive plan and land development regulation amendments that would implement the vision plan um with the caveat that u we would be able to do that bring that forward to you um when legally permissible under SB 180. With that, we'd like to take a moment
and say thank you to the commission and to all the members of the public um who were part of the process, including the focus group be available for questions. >> Okay. Thank you, Mauricio. Do we have public speakers? >> We do. Tracy Slavvens. >> I just want to clarify for the public
that um we serve as the land um planning agency. So, we already had this meeting. It's a little bit odd. So, we're just doing it again to make it official. So, please go ahead. >> Good evening. My name is Tracy Slavvens. My address is 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue,
Sweet 200. I'm here on behalf of Desert Properties. Um I wanted to ask that this resolution be amended uh to include additional language in the vision plan. Um this vision plan document was prepared without the participation of
certain stakeholders namely the commercial property owners within the subject areas and recognizing that it has no legal force or effect at this time. We do need to ensure that the property owners rights are not impaired by the adoption of this plan or future amendments to the comprehensive plan or
zoning code. So, we're not asking you to give anything to the property owners. We're just asking that you don't take away any rights that they have today. To protect those rights, we're asking that the language be inserted that I handed out during the LPA, and I'll read on the record again to ensure that the plan
isn't used to negatively impact property rights. So, this new language reads, "It is important to note that the vision plan is just that, a proposed vision for possible future development within certain of the city's zoning districts. Neither the vision plan nor its subsequent adoption by the city operates
to change the future land use designation or the district on any parcel. The vision plan does not operate to down plan or downzone any lands within the city. Notably, the vision plan does not seek to divest, take or impair existing property rights. Those rights remain
intact following the adoption of the plan. The city also notes that there is many asbuilt conditions, natural conditions, and prior approvals that may render the implementation of the vision plan inequitable in certain circumstances on a case-byase basis.
This vision plan is not intended to, nor shall it downzone or down plan any property rights. So, I again, I ask that the resolution and the vision plan be amended to include this language. Um, and I ask that it be incorporated into the record from what I handed out during
the LPA. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have other speakers? >> No. No other. Yes. Uh Stephen Hirs. >> Stephen Hirs 17201 Collins. I was a member of the uh focus group back in 24. And um I just want to make a
couple comments. Um first and foremost, please speak into the room. First and foremost, I want to uh thank the city for the process I think they went through. They made every effort uh based on my estimation possible from our focus group and then all the outreaches
that they did. And I think uh Amy, Caitlyn, and Jeff Jeff who's was also part of the group uh really made a concerted effort to try to ascertain what the uh sampling that they had
available uh of our city wanted to do with the west side of Collins in the north town center and in the business district. Right now this document's aspirational um but it needs to become in some way
operational and that's where uh ultimately the city commission has to uh pass land development rights for these particular areas. What is critical is that um
as an attorney, but I'm not a zoning attorney. Zoning is just so complicated that um we need to really make sure we all know that our property owners have rights.
Conversely, the city has rights and needs that's best for our residents. We need to try to collaborate and put something together that will to the best extent possible
accomplish the visions that reflected in this vision document. That is also consistent with what our property owners um anticipate or need to
do or want to do with their property. If it was easy, it would be done already, but it's not easy. It's going to be complicated. Um but it needs to be go where
um it straightens strengthens our city and that we as best as possible accomplish the goals of this vision document while understanding the property owner's
rights and trying again to work towards a better for both. Thank you. Thank you. >> Alo and and Rico. >> Hello.
>> Good evening. Alden Derica, 16701 Collins Avenue on behalf of um the ownership group of the Newport Hotel and um 1670 the parking lot for the Newport. Um, first of all, I just want to say uh thank you uh mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, and everyone in the city
for all the time and thought that went into planning um putting together this vision plan. Uh we are in support and share the vision of a thoughtful and pedestrian friendly Town Center North and appreciate the city's effort to plan for this future. However, we are concerned about the proposal that may
eliminate or significantly reduce existing development rights on private property. We believe the vision uh can be achieved while still respecting the existing rights of property owners and not negatively impact our existing property rights. Currently as drafted there is um interpretation that can be
taken from here that is to reduce future development intensity density in these um existing properties. >> Thank you. >> No further speakers. >> Okay. Thank you. Public comment is closed. Just a reminder, if anybody
wants to speak on any item, please go ahead and sign up in the back and bring it to the city clerk. Okay. Um, I'll hear from the commission. Someone like to start and I know that we all spoke about this earlier, but for the benefit of the public here, if you'd like to repeat whatever >> I'll start,
>> please go ahead. >> The um I mean in the previous meeting, which was like it feels like like 10 minutes ago. Um, I I'm someone who lives in that uh area and
I'm very I'm very um satisfied with the outcome. I really like the linear park uh idea and uh we we definitely we know that we we don't control those spaces but we need to be ready if and when the
owners uh decide to uh redevelop so that uh the parameters are there. Um I mean I remember when we discovered the the I forget what it was. Is it like the six extra floors that weren't supposed to be built that caused the split of all of this? >> Yes. Um,
uh, that was like seven years ago. Like we've literally been talking and thinking about this for seven years. So I I don't favor like kicking the can down because there's going to be a new commission or some new configuration of this commission. Uh, to the contrary, I
think those of us sitting up here have been thinking and dealing with this longer than anybody who's going to uh um to replace um some of us up here. So, um I think it's time and um you know I support it.
>> Thank you. Mr. Joseph, do you have anything to add? >> Well, I can only hope I actually agree with the uh vision plan the way the way it was presented and the way it was drafted. Um I can only hope that it gets
implemented in that fashion. Uh we have developers in the city, not all of them, but some that um would uh love to get their um grips on the west side and um
duplicate the east side, which is would basically destroy this city. uh the residents even the people that are living on the east side um they it would not be to their benefit to have the west side developed in uh
the same manner as the east side. So in that regard, this vision um makes livability in this city um something that everyone could be happy about and and um have a thriving
city. And I just hope that it can be implemented in a fashion that the developers that do own the property on the west side will um be satisfied to
um and I know it's all about dollars regarding development, but I hope they could consider the end result of what the city um becomes and is um for the benefit of everyone. Thank
you. >> Thank you. I had some um a few questions. I don't know if it's through the manager or Amy regarding the process. Um one of you mind and again a lot of this is for the benefit of the public that wasn't here
earlier. um based on the amount of time and meetings that we've had and um input um do you feel that it's been an inclusive process and I know that that's somewhat of a subjective question but um I know that there was you know we had
400 participants correct that's for the survey um we had correct me if I'm wrong three workshops >> with the city commission yes >> the city commission um and I know that we've also included included the developers. How how did you have those
conversations with the developers? >> We had uh one-on-one meetings with the property owners um at the beginning of the study process and towards the end and we also shared the draft vision document with them and collected their comments and tried to address them in the vision document as well. Um all of
the activities for the public outreach events were open to the public. the focus group um meetings were open to the public and we collected feedback even from non-focus group members via these workbooks that we provided. We had open houses, pop-up events um and the online survey.
>> Okay. Um so you feel comfortable that it was an inclusive process? >> Yes. >> Um if to Commissioner Joseph's point and and to uh Vice Mayor as well, let's assume that this gets approved, what's the likelihood of us ever seeing this
vision? Well, I'd like to think that it will come to fruition. Um, but with the Senate Bill 180 implications, we're just waiting. You know, we're kind of in a holding pattern on making anything any code amendments that are more burdensome or restrictive, which is really an
elusive concept. Um, so we will start drafting the amendments, um, work with the city attorney's office to see if we can bring them forward or not. We'll also be sure that we share them with the property owners and make it a transparent process as well. Um, and
then bring it to you once we are able to. So we can't force the the plazas to become these beautiful interactive green spaces, but we can potentially change the code to incentivize them >> to incentivize incorporating these
elements and then potentially in and this will come in future amendments, but u maybe architectural guidelines, streetscape requirements, things like that, or requiring more open spaces in the developments. But if they're not looking to develop the the the plaza,
then nothing changes anyways. >> Correct. These are just policies that will be in place for when they do come forward to redevelop. >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification. Um, anyone else have questions or comments from the commission? Commissioner Jes. >> Okay.
So, I asked this question earlier. How much are these process cost? Do we have the number? Um, do we do we know how much the consultant cost the >> consultants and everything else? Yeah, >> we'd have to go back and calculate it.
>> Okay. So, once again, we're voting something that we don't know how much it cost. Okay. About the focus group was pick and choose by the staff, not by the elected officials. Uh, so they the staff decided who was going to be part of the
focus group. So, I do have a one question for Amy. Um, you talk about the necessity for additional parking or that's part of the the presentation, the additional parking for the plazas, right?
>> Uh, we're talking about structured parking in future developments, >> correct? Okay. So, um I spoke to the developers to that that was it. Thank you. But of the biggest lands Um, and
actually they told to me that they were not part of the conversation, that they did receive courtesy calls and that they got together at some point, but their um their comments were not uh addressed or were not part of this. And so I do
believe we are open oursel and the city and the taxpayer to big liabilities. Uh, and we're infringing on people's rights. So um my last comment is uh really beautiful pictures, beautiful renderings but basically we are designing the
arcade plazas and the deserts in Newport properties uh for free for them because uh we are paying for for all these and they don't have to accept none of it. So once again my issue is not just with the
product but with the process. So I'm not in favor of this. >> Thank you. Commissioner Lama, do you have anything to add? >> Yeah, I I I like division. I hope it can get implemented. There is a lot of stars that need to line up. Obviously, you
have property owners that are, you know, a couple are here today and they have expressed some sort of apprehension to this. they they're afraid that their property rights are going to be infringed. But moving forward, and obviously this
is not something that's going to be implemented anytime soon, if it will be implemented at all, because you have RK RK owns most of the uh property that it is uh that is in that area. So, I think they're going to have to be cognizant at
one point to to work with the city to implement something that is beautiful and it it adds to the well-being and the uh overall let's say benefit of the residents. I think that we are a junction here in
this city where we we do need to start building where the structures are not on top of us. they're not overwhelming the citizens. There's pedestrian safety and everything can work in a wholesome
manner. Um, I go to I go to Elorale and I see what they've done with their downtown. I like that. I I I look at Dana Point. I look at other cities that have been able to implement something where they do include
development. they do include you know an aspect of entertainment, shopping, restaurants etc. and they do it in a I would say in a very holistic manner. So I I think that the stakeholders uh including the developers and the
property owners need to be cognizant and uh we all need to work together. I know that it's going to be it's gonna it's it's not going to be an easy process if if you know it really depends on them because if RK doesn't want to develop anything there there's nothing
we could do to force him. So, and then another point is that obviously we have this vision plan and and this is just a vision plan, but the next step hopefully the issues with SB180 get fixed and we
as a municipality can move forward to clean up our comp plan and our land development regulations where we could start moving forward and and see how development in Town Center North can shape up in the years to come. So, um I
think it's going to be an arduous process if it's if it gets going at all and then um whoever replaces us here in the commission um because this is going to be many me many years from now. uh
they will just have to you know everybody will have to get to work roll their sleeves up and you know see how we could implement this for the good of the uh of the community. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Joseph, you wanted something?
>> Yes. I have uh one additional question for Amy. >> She's still here. >> She's still here. >> Yeah. >> Hi Amy. I know you knew this was coming. So I have a question for you regarding
um the fact that um when we have uh proposals from the staff uh presented to us, it always says staff recommends adoption. So I would like to know the proposals
that you recommend for us to adopt are they when you work on them you work on them in a matter that's most restrictive middle of the road or most or or least restrictive? >> Mayor
>> I'll answer Amy's Amy's not Yeah, we we discussed this before. If we bring something to you, it's based on our recommendation as directed by you and your policy decisions. So the experts have gone back based on your
direction and put together the vision plan. What you see in the vision plan is our recommendation, but ultimately it's up to you. If you disagree with it, >> the vision plan, I'm talking about what comes after the vision plan. That's up
to you all the comprehed to the commission for us to to look at and to ponder and to accept. The most legally restrictive, a middle of the road, and a least restrictive.
>> That would be directed by you all as a group. >> Well, that's what I'm asking for now. If you need the commission's opinion as to whether we should have three plans presented to us, then let's do that right now. >> Commissioner Joseph, right now we're just looking at the vision. We're not
voting on a plan. >> No, because after we vote on this tonight, Amy, once HB 180 is whatever happens with that, they're going to go ahead and work on a proposal for us. So I would like to see three proposals
presented to us for us to vote on >> and as I mentioned on Tuesday that it's very difficult to when you say you sort of put them in these three boxes the least the most restrictive middle of the road and there's not this these sets of
laws that you can go through and just apply it evenly to those scenarios. It depends on the property depends on the location. It depends on the zoning. There's too many variables for staff to be able to say. I mean, certainly we take the direction from the commission
and they make recommendations based on what you provide and you can tweak that any way you want. You want to make it more restrictive. I'll advise whether it's something that's risky, not risky, and that's what we do from the legal standpoint. But there's no way to come
and say, "Okay, this is the least restrictive, this is the most restrictive." There's just no way to do that. >> Well, okay. That's not a good answer because I don't know who on staff is preparing the resolution or the ordinance that comes to us. I don't know
whether they live in Sorry to St. Let me finish, please. I know you were getting ready to speak. Anyway, I don't know if the person or the group that's preparing the resolution or ordinance lives in the city. Uh they go go home at night. We live with what they
present to us to vote on. I need to know, and I've asked this question before, whether they they have in mind to protect what the residents of the city and the commission as elected officials vote for considering the
people that voted for us to protect the the livability of our city. Okay? It has nothing to do with the developers. The developers at some point have to understand that no matter what they have
residents that they're looking to sell apartments on the east side, if those people understand that the west side is going to be unlivable and it's going to make the city unlivable for traffic, for going out to enjoy a meal, no one is
going to want to live here. Okay? So at some point you have to think that it's not all about dollars but it's about livability. So I'm asking whatever staff it is that works on these ordinances and
resolutions that are presented to the commission because I never know what they're thinking. I don't have any interaction with them while they're working on these things. We're not allowed to according to the way the city is set up and the city manager has it
set up. So, we don't have any interaction until they actually present to us whatever it is they want us to vote on with their recommendation. Okay? And I'm just tired of seeing the wording staff recommends approval. Okay?
because I never know what their thoughts are when they were working on what they're now presenting to us. Like I said, if they were thinking in the most restrictive manner or let's just have it, you know, be to the developers
delight and uh we don't really care uh livability or what happens traffic-wise in the future. So, I need to see three proposals so that I know which one I know for myself which one I want to vote
for uh to have this city be a city to be proud of and the most livable in the future. >> Mr. City Manager, you wanted to add something? >> I don't have anything to add to that. I I I can change the verbiage from staff
recommends approval to staff presents this for your approval. >> No, that doesn't do it though because >> we have a professional proposal. No, we have a professional staff and this is why um they're not here to answer
questions in these political situations. They're a professional staff. they're bringing forward to you based on their expertise based on my direction of your policy decisions. So you can vote for it or against it. What is your opinion
you're entitled to but what you're asking I could have five different proposals and bringing forward. So we take it back. We based on the vision from the residents who ultimately we all serve and bring it to you as the policy
makers. So I don't know how we could do it any differently. Would you like three proposals for every item we bring forward? No, we're bringing it forward practices and procedures of good governance
>> always. That's what we do daily. Commissioner Joseph, if I can get clarification, are you saying you want three vision proposals? >> Because that's what we're voting on right now. You don't want you So you're against this? >> No, not three vision. I'm fine with the
vision. The vision now will be taken forward to an ordinance. >> No, I to to to update our comprehensive plan. The compre whoever is going to be drafting the new comprehensive plan, I I'm not in their head. Okay. I don't
know what they're thinking, whether they're a more conservative thinking person thinking to protect the residents or if they're on the side of the developer or any developer to
uh you know work up a plan that's more liberal that um causes us to have a city in the end that's not livable. >> All right. May mayor if I can >> staff does not have the authority to impose their beliefs in so they can't
make those determinations they can't decide that well I think that the city's residents want this or that they're not allowed to do that under this form of government that's your job so when they come to you they have a professional recommendation if they do let's say we
recommend a 3.0 O F A R it's up to you to decide yes no do you want to change it do you know they can answer the implications but whether it's me whether it's staff or whatever else we cannot impose our beliefs and say I know what
the residents want and this is what I'm going to think and this is how I'm going to produce it that's for you all because you're elected >> if you're saying 3.0 0 F that they're proposing to us. Okay. But a more stringent would be 2.0. >> May I?
>> And they're not presenting that to us. Then that's not fair to the commission. >> But it could be you could present 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 6.0 7.0. I mean at what point we have to make a recommendation as professional staff.
>> I'm saying three points of view. At least three points of view. Commissioner Joseph, uh, I'm giving the floor to Commissioner Lama. He wanted to add something. >> Yeah. I I I So, so when we're doing this right now and then the way I envision the next step would be for us to have
workshops and and discuss as a body, you know, and talk to staff, have a couple workshops, have meetings to see what we want and how best to implement this vision. I mean, I'm not I'm not looking at this from a standpoint where now it's
on staff's uh hands and they're going to come back to us with with three different plans. The way I see it is that we're going to have discussions. >> Give us just one plan. No, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is that no, we're going to be involved. I I'm look the way we were involved with workshops for the
vision plan. I'm looking at us being involved in conversations and meeting uh in workshops. I I don't want them to come back to me with three plans without having a back and forth in a conversation and input and then some
more observations. I I really want us to get this right back and forth. >> No, but but but this has got to be a very involved process where we are very, you know, engaged and connected and we we direct this bas. >> But I'm talking about the end result.
>> No, but that's why I'm saying the end result. We are going to guide that. you know, we're going to guide that. I mean, but I I see it more as like us going back and forth with them and having workshops and then coming up with a final product or a couple of final
options. I I don't know. I don't see it as us wait. Commissioner Jose, hold on a second. We're because I think we're coming we're going way off the rails here. >> No, we're not because >> we are only voting right now and discussing the vision. We're not implementing anything else. To Commissioner Lama's point, there's going
to be additional conversations. We'll deal with this at the workshop. >> So, but that's the place. >> No, not not really. That's wishful thinking that we're going to have these conversations in the future. It hasn't happened since I've been here. So, the staff knows that anything that they
bring to us, you guys are going to approve it and vote for it even without reading it. It has happened in the past that they bring us a contract in that moment. Actually, it was the Newport people. You guys bring that contract from the city attorney recommend that we
vote for it. A 10-year contract without reading it. We receive it in the moment. So the staff knows that they have a yes by default. The code word is we recommend this and it's going to pass. So wishful thinking to think that in the
future we're going to be being more uh involved. And I hope that you guys had this feeling years before, not only a few months before getting out of office because now we are left with this mess that we are going to have to clean up with the new people that get elected and
and to the point that now we we don't have here the staff to answer those questions. The staff work for the people of Sony Beach. The residents are paying everybody's salary and everybody expenses to be here, this building and
everything else. So yes, we should have those people right there able to answer questions not only from us but also from the residents. This is the less transparent administration ever. I remember being on that side sitting down
there in that microphone asking questions and interacting with you guys. Now people cannot ask question because if they ask the mayor say we are not answering any of those questions. So, zero transparency and the staff knows this is a dysfunctional commission and
it is good for everyone except for the residents. >> I agree. We should be able we should be able to have a back and forth between the commission and the residents. >> Thank you. All right. Um, I'll take a motion. Mayor, if I can just reassert the objection I had earlier to the
language that was proposed by Miss Slavven's uh that I I my council to use is not to add it. >> Okay. I don't think anyone was planning to, but Okay. >> So So I I I just want to comment on some of uh Commissioner Stewart's >> I'm so sorry, Commissioner before, if I
may interject very quickly. We've exceeded the 30 minute limit for debate. So if we want to continue a motion to continue >> let's just can we just let commission >> it's up to you all just letting you know. >> Are we over the 30? Yes we are. So
motion to continue for for Alex and then we can keep going. >> So okay so so talking about this mess. This mess has been present since I came into office. Okay. And I specifically
spoke with the city manager, the previous city manager and the current city manager and staff about fixing this. This is something that uh we I've been pushing. I am very concerned about because I think within the first month that I was here, we got hit with a
lawsuit. There was a whole issue with our K and the building that was proposed, etc., etc. There's a big issue here with our comp plans and our LDRs. And I think this needs to be cleaned up right away and we're heading in that
direction. This is a mess that was not caused by this commission. Okay? This is a mess that was caused by by the founding fathers unfortunately where they wrote a comp plan and LDRs that
were that had huge discrepancies and were open for mis represent uh mis misinterpretation and that's where we are right now. So I take issue when we are getting the blame and the blame should be directed in in
in other ways. Okay. So, we're trying to fix this. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened as fast as possible, but we are here talking about it. So, I don't understand what the issue is and what your pro what the problem is. I mean,
we're discussing the issue right now. The next step, just like we were involved with the vision plan, whether you like the process or not like the process, we we were involved. I gave my opinion. I gave what my suggestions were, etc., etc. and I plan to do so
when we implement um any density, intensity, etc., etc., to be able to clean up the comp plan and the LDRs. >> Okay. Would you like to make a motion? >> So move. >> Second. >> Second. Mauricio. >> Vice Mayor Vascaro?
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Styent? >> No. >> Commissioner Lama? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph? Yes, >> Mayor Spetchum. >> Yes. >> The resolution passes 4 to one.
>> Okay. Next item, please. >> Excuse me one second. Next item is ordinances for second reading. Uh 8A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sanos Beach, Florida, amending chapter 256, article
76 entitled motorized scooters, coasters, skateboards, and other similar wheeled devices. Section 256-47 entitled requirements and restrictions. Section 256-48 entitled penalties and enforcement and
256-49 entitled effective date of enforcement of the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny House speech establishing age restriction for the operation of motorized scooters requiring governmentissued photographic identification for the operation of motorized scooters and then penalties
and enforcement providing for repealer providing for codification providing for an effective date. >> Okay, Mr. City Manager, >> Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. This is the second reading of our scooter ordinance. In between the first and the second reading, you
advised us to modify the enforcement period to 60 days. >> Big mistake. >> Okay. Uh do we have any public speakers? >> Yes, ma'am. We have Aries Tiger.
Target 262 Atlantic Island. I urge you to vote on this matter because I almost killed two kids on on the scooter. They don't look at the light whether it's red or green. I have green coming out from the island. They just zoom. Those kids
are probably 9 10 years old. Two on each scooter. And I'm surprised that nobody got killed there yet, but somebody will get killed. I I recommend to enforce they come, I don't know, from Pointana
or from the other building and they have no no fear of nothing. They just zoom in and out. So please vote for it. >> Thank you. Any other speakers? >> All right. Please go ahead, Commissioner. >> Yes. So, I believe that this
commissioner has made a tremendous mistake delaying the enforcement of uh this scooter ordinance that um we have two months now before uh school ends. We should be enforcing this. Give
a 30-day uh learning period starting now. um have the enforcement in place in the last month of the school session and ha give this uh over the summer for parents to think about what's going to happen at
the end of August when their kids can't take their scooters to school. If we uh implement what the commission now has on uh for us to vote on tonight, there will be chaos at the end of August and
September. And um I believe it's just going to cause our police department um um just unnecessary anxiety, expense, and uh with the parents having over the summer
period to consider their options for getting their kids to school at the end of August, I believe that's a much better option and I ask the commission to reconsider. >> Thank you, Commissioner Joseph. Um, I would support that. Actually, I agree
with you in in thinking about it. You're right. But, um, anyone else? >> I disagree. >> I know. I remember. >> Um, because families
have already set up their their commuting and whatever, you know, like they already have it set up. And I think about the you like I I put myself in in in the space of like okay what if you're you know a single mom who has to go to work and and you can't you don't have
this is how you figured it out right you figured out how to make your life work except the the last month of school it all gets um derailed for you and now you have like a big problem right so I think that if we
if we wait on the enforcement. We can do the educational piece. We can start putting the word out and really but not be disruptive towards the end of the school year and then you have the summer for the education and you we can start the
enforcement. I I think especially with the ID piece, it's not not every for not every 16year-old has an ID. So give them the opportunity to go get it. like if if at um even if you do have a a
16-year-old right now who's who would be you know zipping around uh let's say even if it were appropriately he would be in violation because he hasn't had the opportunity to get the ID. So we have to give people the the give them an
opportunity to succeed in the compliance. I I don't think it's fair for people I I don't agree with the reliance especially for the little kids but and I think we're very lucky that we haven't had any serious issues so far. Um
>> why are you looking to extend it? >> Let let vice mayor finish. Well, um because I think that it's um I think that it's unfairly disruptive, but that's that's how you are you going to disrupt the the schooling and then
maybe they send them on the scooter anyway? You know, I think let families give the give them the opportunity to uh to be able to adjust and then you have the summer to really like dig into it. But, you know, I mean, I don't love it, Jerry, but I think I would just draw the
line in a different place. >> I think >> um >> the sooner we get the uh young kids off the street with these scooters, we're we're going to save a life. >> All right. Commissioner just uh anyone else from the commission, Commissioner Stewent?
>> No. I mean, we we discussed this previously and yeah, I'm okay with >> the way it is right now. >> Do you want to make a motion to amend the order? I would like to make a motion to amend. Yes. >> To amend it to >> to Okay. So, um right now we're in March
to uh start the training immediately. um inform the school through whatever um city emails, city uh postings, postings at the school. Um asking for
the help of the principal to uh put out notices over the loud uh school loudspeaker. Um notices sent home to parents that the city can uh supply to the school. Um and
have this ordinance take effect March in May. >> Okay, I need a second. >> Jerry, sorry. Okay, >> mayor, if I may just keep our fingers
crossed. Um just as just so you know um based on the 60 days we were looking to start enforcement on June 1st and school does not actually end until June 4th. So there will be like a 3-day overlap of where we would be enforcing during the
school year if we were to continue as planned. >> Okay, I'll take a motion. >> So moved. Need a second. >> Second ratio. >> Commissioner Cyent. >> Yes. Commissioner Dama, >> yes.
>> Commissioner Joseph, >> no. >> Vice Mayor Viscara, >> yes. >> Mayor Fetchin, >> yes. >> The ordinance passes 4 to one. >> Okay. Next item. >> Next item. Excuse me.
8B is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Alles Beach, Florida, amending chapter 265, article 5, section 265-11 entitled procedures of general applicability and section 265-18 entitled administrative site plan review of the code of
ordinances of the city of sunny house beach to clarify, update and streamline development application procedures providing for repealer, providing for severability, providing for transmitt to the state land, excuse me, not that part and providing for effective ly. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and
commissioners. This is second reading of this ordinance to amend article 5 of the land development regulations. This will remove the requirement for paper submitts of zoning applications and also reiterate that um all elements of site plan approvals um and the conditions of
approval must be maintained in perpetuity unless the site plan modification is approved by the city commission. There have been no changes since first reading. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. I'll take any comments from the commission. Make a motion. >> So move.
>> Second. >> Commissioner Lama. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Stson. >> Yes. >> Mayor Fetchin. >> Yes.
>> The ordinance passes 5 to zero. >> And now to resolutions. Now on to resolutions uh 9A and 9B together. Mayor >> 9A is a resolution approving the terms and conditions of promisary note for the
payment of approved floor area ratio bonuses in the amount of 13,40,479 and.34 cents for the approved site plan application PZ 2022508 submitted by MBRE Investments LLC.
9B is a resolution approving the terms and conditions of a promisary note for the payment of transferable development rights in the amount of 13,69,370.25 for the approved site plan application PZ 202508 submitted by MBRE Investments
LLC for the project entitled Miami Beach Club. >> Okay. Who's presenting this? >> Mayor, vice mayor, and commissioners. Um the Miami Beach Club site plan was approved by the city commission last month. Um and in that approval, the applicant requested for um to allow a
payment agreement for the payment for development bonuses and the TDR purchase and that is to take the form of a promisory note. Um a condition of approval was to split the promisory note into two. one for the development bonuses and one for the TDR purchase which is the two items before you now 9A
and 9B. Um just to highlight some of the terms of the uh payment agreement. The um interest will occur on the unpaid principal balance at a rate of prime plus 1 half% peranom. The applicant shall pay annual interest payments on
the principal amount and the principal amount and the accured interest shall be due and payable no later than 90 days following the issuance of the first TCO for the project. With that, I'm available if you have any questions. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Any questions from the commission?
>> I have a comment. >> Go ahead. >> Okay. So, um in January we had our first approval um meeting regarding this project. Um it it got delayed one month
in order to give uh the residents of Armani and Ocean 2 the opportunity to work with the developers to uh sue some of their um issues. regarding
uh vibration and other effects of the development. Um to date I I've been told that the developers even though the commission um caused a one-mon delay which I was looking for a three-month
delay um thinking that there might not be any movement on the developers part um except for uh that they did accept uh vibration um um
uh vibration testing. thing. Um they have not gone any further to work with the um residents of Ocean 2 and Armani. I'd like to ask um the attorney for the developers, is that the case or not?
>> Um Commissioner Joseph, that's not what we're voting on right now. >> I understand. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> So >> So she can't answer. >> It's not that she can't answer. She's not here to answer those questions. >> I understand. But it's it's her choice. She can say no. I don't want to answer.
>> Are you prepared to answer that question >> to some extent? Yes. Uh Tracy Slavvens, my address is 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue, Sweet 200 Miami, Florida on behalf of MBRE Investments LLC. Um conversations are ongoing. I have seen some
correspondence. I am not the author of the agreements that are being negotiated, so I'm not copied on all correspondents, but I do know that there is communication happening. Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you.
Anyone else? I'll take a motion. >> So move. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Can you say >> no? >> No. Okay. 9 C is a resolution authorizing the
transfer of development rights from Laia Beach Associates to Laia 2 LLC in the amount of 137,977.26 of square feet of floor area ratio and 58 dwelling units. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and
commissioners. In 2015, the city commission approved the site plan at that time known as Laia Verado or Laia Beach um for the project located at 1801 Collins Avenue. It is now referred to as the St. Reges Residences. Um, in their
2015 site plan approval, the commission approve authorized the transfer of TDRs from the city's public TDR bank account to Laia Beach Associates LLC, which was the applicant for the site plan application um, in the amount of 283,485
ft of floor area and 9 dwelling units. Um, the project is going to be a phase development. So, the south tower is known as phase one and the north tower is known as phase two. And due to the nature of the phase development of the project, the property
was divided into two separate folios in 2015, resulting in the phase 1 project being at 18801 Collins Avenue and phase 2 at 18805 Collins Avenue. Each phase is going to be owned by two um separate
legal entities. Now, in 2015, all of the TDRs were assigned to Laia Beach Associates LLC, who will retain ownership of the phase 1 parcel. Um, but now a different entity, Lia 2 LLC, will
own the phase 2 parcel or the North Tower at 18805 Collins Avenue. So what this resolution does is it authorizes a transfer between the two entities for um just the portion of TDRs that's needed
for the north tower which is the 137,977 square ft of floor area representing a total value of 17,247,158. And I'm available if you have any questions. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. Are there any questions or
comments from the commission? I'll take a motion, please. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. Next item. >> We're going to hear the next uh four items together. 9D is a resolution
approving the terms and conditions of promisary note for the payment of approved floor area ratio bonuses in the amount of 5,51,94 for phase 1 south tower portion of the approved site plan application submitted
by Lla Associates. 9E is a resolution approving the terms and conditions of a promisary note for the payment of transfer development rights in the amount of 5,269,97 for the phase 1 south tower portion of the approved site plan application
submitted by La Associates. 9F is a resolution approving the terms and conditions of a promisary note for the payment of approved floor area ratio bonuses in the amount of 5 million 949,579 for phase 2 north tower portion of the
approved site plan application submitted by LA Associates and 9G is a resolution approving the terms and conditions of a promisary note for the payment of transferable development rights in the amount of 17,247,1 $158
for the phase 2 north tower portion of the approved site plan application submitted by LLA associates. >> Thank you >> mayor, vice mayor and commissioners. Um this is the promisory note terms for the St. Reges residences for both phases.
The reason that there's four promisory notes before you is because we took the direction for Miami Beach Club project and applied it to this project as well and separated the promisory notes into ones for the development bonuses and ones for the TDRs and for the two separate phases. Um to highlight some of
the terms of the promisory notes um they will acrew interest on the unpaid principal at a rate of prime plus 1 half% peranom. The applicant will pay quarterly interest payments on the principal amount and the principal amount and the accured interest shall be
due and payable no later than 90 days following the issuance of the first TCO for the project. And there's an early payoff provision where if the principal amount is paid within 90 days of execution of the note, then um the interest shall be waved. I'm available
if you have any questions. >> Thank you. Um Mauricio, do we have any speakers on any of the items? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. Since we're reading them all together, if anyone had any intention to speak on any of the items, I'll give you another opportunity. Okay. >> I I did have a question.
>> Please go ahead. >> Um Amy, I guess uh what benefit, if any, is there to splitting the the notes? Um, it was requested by the commission and so I believe the purpose of it is to
be able to track the interest that's accured for both so that way it can be applied to the different funds that it goes towards. All the money collected for bonuses and TDRs goes towards our capital improvement program but this way we can track it separately the interest that's accured on
>> the notes. Okay. Thank you. >> That's it. >> Yep. >> Anyone else? I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Okay, next item >> 9H is a resolution confirming the balance of transfer of development
rights currently held in the TDR bank accounts by the city of Sunonny Beach and private owners. >> This is the annual bank account update to confirm the amount of TDRs that are currently owned by the city and what is available for purchase. Just some quick highlights of the annual report. Um the
development rates for the Leishalu property located at 18126 Atlanta Atlantic Boulevard was added to the city's public bank account. Since the last annual report, there have been three balcony enclosures um at the Aqualina projects and the Miami Beach
Club site plan approval. Uh the remaining balance of the city's TDR Bank available for purchase is 340,561 square ft of floor area and 219 dwelling units. Finally, since the last annual report, the city has collected
1,628,527.25 for the balcony enclosures and for the Miami Beach Club TDR deposit. To date, the St. Regis residences, the Bentley residences, and the Miami Beach Club projects are all subject to payment agreements for their TDR purchases, and
that outstanding total is $50,417,939. I'm available if you have any questions. Thank you, Mara. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any questions from the commission? >> No. >> We'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> All in favor? >> I
>> I Next item, Mauricio. >> The next item is 9 I, a resolution approving an agreement with Full Moon Creative for audiovisisual maintenance and production services. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This approves an agreement with Full Moon Creative. They're the
company that does our audiovisisual maintenance for the chambers. >> Thank you. >> Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Are there any questions from the commission? >> No. >> Take a motion, please. >> Motion. >> All in favor? >> I.
>> All right. Next item, please. >> 9J is a resolution approving a second amendment to the agreement with CBIZ CPAP PC for professional auditing services. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the commission. This is the company that is our independent auditor that audit
audits our books every year. >> Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion. Oh, >> I had just a a question and um it's just coming to me now.
>> We're supposed to switch companies every so many years. I think Markham, is it every five? Is this so is this their last year? It's been okay. All right. No, that was my question. Thank you. >> Right. That's that's a good point. It came up during the agenda review that we
are we have to switch the companies in order to maintain transparency and accountability. Uh I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I I >> um Mauricio, just a quick note for
clarification. The addition you have on here is a N. You put it on as 9J for the um addendum to the So what >> the add-on? No, the add-on is 9 Y
>> 9 J is additional information. So yes, that's a type. >> Oh, okay. >> So that's for the um >> Got it. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Thank you. >> 9S actually. >> Okay. Go ahead. Next. Next item. >> 9K is a resolution approving an
agreement with government jobs.com. for to provide workforce management solutions. >> City manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is the company that provides our job posting and application
tracking pro software. >> Okay. Mauricio, do we have public speakers? Any comments from the commission? >> No. >> Take a motion. >> Motion. >> A second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Next item, please.
9L is a resolution approving an agreement with shift construction and development for the gateway pedestrian elevator enclosures project. Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is the company that will be providing enclosures for the
elevators at Gateway Pedestrian Bridge. And the purpose of it is to protect the elevators that we've already installed from the elements. And a question came up. This will also be constructed of glass so you'll be able to see through
it. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> No ma'am. >> Any questions from the commission? >> Save me the trouble. >> I'll take a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Mama. >> Second.
>> Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Okay. Thank you. Next item. Nama's resolution approving a first amendment to the agreement with concrete works and paving to provide repair services for pavers, concrete, and asphalt citywide
on an as needed basis. Mayor, vice mayor, members of commission, this is the company that we use to provide routine repair or pavers, concrete, and asphalt throughout the city. >> Thank you. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am.
>> Any questions or comments from the commission? Commissioner Joseph, >> does this company um only use um non-porous concrete? >> I should have expected them. Um
it's money. It's money. I I don't know. >> Well, can you look into it and have them get their approvals? >> I I will look into it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I'll take a motion. So >> motion
>> second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> All right. Next item. >> Let's pick it up. >> NN is a resolution approving a first amendment to the agreement with NBR construction to provide additional time for final completion of construction services for the inter coastal sports
park and additional compensation. >> Okay. >> Mayor, vice may commission. This provides for additional time and final completion of Intra Coastal Sports Park in an amount not to exceed 500 thou I'm
sorry 200,000. >> Thank you. Mauricio, do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> All right. I'll take any comments from the commission. >> Excuse Mayor. >> Uh, yes, we do. Aris Tiger. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Aris Tiger 262 Atlantic Island.
question. Why does every project in the city takes a year to accomplish the lifts for the police bolts? I don't know. It's been done for months and months and it's not ready.
The tennis court over there, they've been working on it for God knows how long. They have two guys working on it. It's already a year and something. And every time there's a change order. What is all those change orders? I'm I'm in construction business.
There's change orders if it's not on the plan. But once it's on the plan, why have ch change order? If they give you a proposal, they should stay by the proposal. >> Anyone that knows anything about construction, it has to drive them crazy.
>> Thank you. Do we have any other speakers? >> Okay. Take comments from the commission. Commissioner Stubes, you're recognized. Yeah, I completely agree with Ari. Um, actually the original contract was 3.90
million 390 millions with a plus a 320,000 which is the 10% for contingency. So originally was 3.5
million. Okay. Now they're asking half a million more. It's going to be over $4 million. Like you said, we don't have any details why. We don't have the change order. We don't have nothing. So apparently it was an
artificial low bit or we are not doing a a good job tracking this. You know, everybody wants to see those projects finished. But uh it has to be a little bit more seriousness about these contracts. Look what's happening across the street with the Tony Romas. Same
thing. years and years change order after change order um in appareli um there is no fiscal responsibility with this so I'm completely voting against this >> thank you go ahead >> I would actually like to find out from Aventura they totally reworked their
founders park I'd like to know how long it took I'm going to be finding out tomorrow and what the expense was and um then we will compare to our debacle >> thank Thank you. Anyone else? >> Okay, I'll take a motion.
>> It's all moved. >> I need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Any opposed? >> Wait, you >> needs to be here? >> No, she doesn't. >> Okay, I'm opposed. >> All right, next item. >> So, we have three. >> What about you? >> You vote?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. >> Yeah. No, it's not. It's >> the resolution pass three to one. >> Okay. >> Next item. 90. >> I I have one other question, please, for Mauricio. Can I expect to have my documents tomorrow?
>> Yes, we'll do it as soon as possible. Commission, >> no. I heard that three months ago. >> We have We will. We will for sure. >> On the record, the clerk has committed to tomorrow. >> 90 is a resolution approving the purchase of an Arbach lowfloor shuttle
bus for Model One Commercial Vehicles, Inc. >> Okay. >> Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This allows for the purchase of a lowf flooror shuttle bus for our our fleet, our shuttle. >> All right. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am.
>> Okay. Any comments from the commission? >> Take a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Re your next item. 9P is a resolution approving a second amendment with MT Cosley to provide
non-exclusive structural inspection and plans review services on an as needed basis. Mr. >> City Manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is actually approving a third amendment to the agreement with MT Cosley to provide structural and
inspection and plan review services on an asneeded basis. Do >> we have any public speakers? >> No ma'am. >> Okay. Any comments for the commission? Take a motion. >> Some moved. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I.
>> Next item, please. >> 9 is a resolution approving an agreement with Rodriguez Architects to provide professional architectural services for the exterior renovation project at government center. >> Manager, >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the
commission. This approves an agreement with Rodriguez Architects providing architectural services for our exterior renovations here at the government center which includes the fountain, the pool, and electrical. >> Do we have public speakers?
>> No, ma'am. >> Okay, I'll take comments from the commission motion. >> I have a few comments. >> Go ahead. Okay. So, listen to this. $70,000 does not buy one single paper, one
single ounce of a stuckco or a single dye. It is purely consultant and architectural fees to draw plans to renovate a fountain that already exist.
Okay, Bissa, were you able to put the the renderings and that I sent you? Okay. >> Okay. So, it took me a free AI app to make those renderings. I I I I gave him
a few and no more than five minutes. But we are paying $70,000 for a consultant company with a lot of ties to other contracts in the city, which by the way, I don't believe I know
the consultant, so I'm not saying anything against them. And we're paying $70,000 for this. It's like the money bother us apparently. Um, so other cities that they don't have our resources can be a little bit more
creative. But $70,000 for this when we can do it for free. We have a lot of a lot of people in our city that will do that will be honored to do this for us. Mhm. >> We can go to a to the college and make
this some kind of an architectural um um fair for them to bring us something, you know, a competition. But no, $70,000 for this. >> Um can I get some clarification from the
city manager as to what exactly we um we're getting for the um the contract? Yes, >> it's not just the design, it's actual architectural and engineering. So, how you make that happen, the lighting, the
fountains, um we have some underp um broken pipes, we need to fix the pumps for the fountain, um how the tile is adhered to the wall. Plus, we are redoing the pavers all in here because if you've noticed, they're
all very um trip hazards. So we are um it encompasses that whole area not just the design like a visual but the actual architect and engineering contract um construction documents so that we can go out to bid to actually
build it. >> But we have the experts here in the city they can do that as well. >> We do not have that on site. >> Oh so we don't have that anymore because other projects have come to us that is being done inhouse. So, $70,000 just again for the project for the
engineering of this. We already have the the the lining. We already have the water fountain functioning. I actually took those pictures today just to put it in the AI app to give me those renderings. I think $70,000 for this is
way too much money. when we are when when we are thinking that property taxes are going to be eliminated and we have to be fiscally responsible at least we should defer this item because again this doesn't make any sense. >> Have we considered uh if AI can be used
to uh create these renderings for architectural or engineering purposes? Have we looked into that? >> They're going to do it. The way >> I am not aware of any thing that our building department would accept for permitting that is generated through AI
but I can ask >> you have to have uh certified architects and >> they have to be signed and sealed plans >> signed and sealed. So they won't do that with AI, >> right? So for clarification, for legal purposes and for permitting, what is it that we what's the >> Well, AI is good for renderings, but when it comes to actual construction
documents, they need to be signed and sealed by actual >> licensed professionals. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So So I have a question. Go ahead. So when we uh renovated the bathrooms in the fourth floor or the kitchen in the fourth floor, do we had we need build
permits for that? the bathroom and the um lunchroom. Nothing structurally changed with that. >> Yeah, but that's not the question. Did we need like a whole uh design and also building permits? We were structur not
structural clearly, but certain things were there changed. So, do we need a permits for an inhouse um construction? >> We do get permits for in-house construction projects. Oh, we we do have for those projects specifically >> the bathroom. No, that was changing it.
Actually, I I can't answer that. I don't know. public works has been getting permits for the renovation to the third floor, the fourth floor >> because many many other municipalities when they're doing things indoor for themsel um they don't need this kind of
uh specific sophisticated permits and I know about other construction that have been done in the city which I believe probably we skipped that part. So again $70,000 for designing uh doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry. I don't know about
these numbers and and and they're way too much. >> Okay. Anyone else? I'll take a motion. >> So moved. >> Need a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Oppos.
>> Post. >> Okay. Next item. Mauricio >> 9R is a resolution authorizing the city manager to purchase necessary telecommunication services and related products from Suncom for fiscal year 2025 2026.
Mayor, vice mayor, members of the commission. This is uh telecom uh extending communications with state of Florida in the amount of 100,000 for citywide projects that are telecom and general products. >> Okay. Do we have public speakers? >> No, ma'am.
>> Any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion. So need a second. All in favor? >> Losing my voice. All right. Next item. 9S is a resolution approving the
appointments the appointing the city's delegate and their alternate to the Miami date league of cities to attend meetings from May 2026 through May 2027. Uh these are the mayor's appointments uh to serve or to attend the meetings and to be able to vote at the Miami date of
cities. Um it's commissioner styent and commissioner Joseph as the alternate. >> Okay. Were they asked in advance? >> I'm sorry. >> They weren't asked in advance. >> No, they were not. I'm sorry. >> All right. Are you all okay with these
appointments? >> Sure. >> All right. I'll take a motion. >> Wait, do we have Sorry. Do we have any public speakers? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh, I have a motion. Do I need a second? >> Second. All >> in favor? I Thank you. Next item. >> 90 is a resolution establishing the N
I'm sorry, that was deferred. 9U is a resolution directing the city manager and city attorney to draft a municipal ordinance to eliminate the upland property owner requirement for residents seeking public beach event permits.
>> Okay, so this was brought up to me by um some residents that they find out when they wanted to do some gatherings on the beach that they were not able to. So I just want to make sure what is the process to any resident that is on the west side of Collins if they decide that
they want to do a specific party on the beach let's said or on on Sanso Park or any other part. >> Okay, you want to >> uh it depends on what it is. I there's not a general answer for that.
>> Okay. So, somebody wants to do uh um birthday party on Samsung Park and it's going to be 25 people. They want to have some music and balloons um and pictures taken or a video taken. So, Samson Ocean Front Park is not in
our rental program if that's what you're asking. We do have parks that are in our rental program, but there's nothing to preclude anyone from like if you wanted to say to all your children's friends, meet me at the park, and you bring over some food and balloons and a tent.
There's nothing to stop you from >> So, what does need uh event permit? What kind of what is what is >> that require production or reserved air? If you're going to reserve an area or you want to have a production of some sort. >> Okay. Precisely. So somebody wants to do
some production, they want to have a wedding, maybe not 25 people, 40 people, and they want to do it on the beach. So what would be the procedure for that? >> They would be it would be suggested that they um partner with an uplim property owner. Yes.
>> Meaning that uh let me put my glasses. So any resident seeking to host a simple gathering is legally required to have an upland property owner, specifically an ocean front condominium or hotel to cosign, sponsor or approve their
application. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> It's not in our code that way, but yes. >> Okay. So >> because logistically >> Okay. >> Logistically, there's no other way for them to do that. >> How so? when the beach doesn't belong to
the building, >> how >> um it's getting there. So, to have a wedding, for example, you'd have an arch, you'd have 40 or more chairs, you would have maybe a runner, you'd have flowers, you would have um guests, you would have music, which requires
electricity, and all of that has to get to the beach. So, that would have to go through an upland property owner. >> Well, not necessar not necessarily. They can go through SAS park and they can park on the behind um Walgreens also uh
depending or whatever is it they want. Maybe they don't want to have anything with electricity. The point here is that to have a gathering on the beach. The only people who has who have right now the right to do so are the owners of the
um condominiums or hotels in there. any other resident of Sony ALS cannot get this kind of permits. So all I'm doing is bringing this to the consideration of the commission because this was brought
out to me by some residents that when they were trying to do their gatherings, they find out about all these requirements. Um the way they put it to me is this is borderline discrimination. So we can just fix this. That's the the idea to fix this that uh uh it's like we
have two kind of citizens. The citizens that live on the east side of Collins with and apparently uh like one developer told me long time ago, we don't own this the beach but we sell it here. Apparently they do own it because in for anybody to try to do any kind of
gathering um then they have to partner with them if not to what have happened in the past then they get a violation once they are there. Um so yes it happens and the color enforcement goes because
apparently uh certain resident doesn't like to see certain people on the beach. So when they are together then they get the violation uh and things can escalate. So the idea is to clean up something that is like I say borderline
discrimination. >> Do we have any public speakers? >> No ma'am. Oh yes. So sorry we have James Zaraden. Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, uh commissioners, and distinguished members
of the city. Uh my name is James Zaratin. I uh oversee the estates at Aqualina, 17945 Collins. On behalf of Aqualina Resort and Residences, thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening on the matter that's critically important to our residents and the broader community. Uh we understand the
commission is considering allowing open booking of beach events without requiring partnership with a beachrun hotel or residential condominium property. While we appreciate the intent, we respectively urge caution given the potential impacts. Uh Sunny Isles Beach is known for its tranquility and well-managed environment, something
that has been preserved through partnerships with hotels and res residential condominium communities that provide the necessary infrastructure, oversight, and accountability for events. Removing this requirement raises two key concerns. First, the resident experience. Our beaches are an extension of home for
residents on both sides of Collins Avenue. Unrestricted events risk disrupting the peaceful character and accessibility that define this community. Even today, events are limited to ensure balance. Second, logistics. Events require essential services, power, restrooms,
waste management, security, parking. Hotels and condominium properties currently manage these in a structured way. Without that partnership, it's unclear how these needs would be met or enforced. potentially placing strain on city resources. We support well-executed events, but maintaining the current partnership
requirement ensures that they are conducted responsibly and with proper oversight. We respectfully ask the commission to preserve this policy or implement a framework that upholds the same level of accountability. Thank you. >> Thank you. Do we have any other public speakers? >> No, ma'am.
>> Um I I have some questions. Um well, actually, does anyone else in the commission have any questions or comments? >> I do, but go ahead. >> All right. So uh because I had asked this question before, I was um also contacted by the same um developer that
wanted to use the the space for um yoga if I want to use the space and I can I can I use the city as my upland um partner? Meaning what if I wanted to do it at Samson? So let's say I don't want to do a birthday party. I want to do a
wedding uh and I want to do it at Samson. Can I do that? So, based on the past direction from a past commission that is not sitting here anymore, um they wanted to preserve certain parks for the general public. They did not
want it to be reserved for private use in any way. >> Samson Oceanfront Park was one of those parks. Town Center Park was one of those parks. Um and we that's why we've directed people to Heritage Park for rentals, Pelican Community Park for rentals. We then added in Golden Shores
because some residents were >> No, I'm sorry to interrupt you. I meant the beach. So where on the beach, if I'm a resident on the west side um that I can partner that I can just go directly to the city, is there anywhere? >> There is currently not anywhere. If you'd like to direct us to do so.
>> Okay. Um sorry, I'm losing my voice. And so right now if someone goes and starts and we have this because yoga is very popular. If people are, you know, have a group together doing yoga on the beach, uh, what do we do? >> Okay, so there's two different things.
So, if it's just a gathering of people doing yoga. >> Um, you're right. We've had complaints that people are doing it. I get phone calls and say, "They're out there right now. Go stop them because they're 20 or more, 25 or more."
um code working in conjunction with culture and community services is working on a permit for that that type of nonproduction event um to allow that in certain areas for certain time periods so that they could and it's not
just for the beach. That goes for somebody wanting to use the park for um you you might want to do yoga in Town Center Park or or somewhere else that kind of organized gathering. They're working on a permit for that. That's different than a wedding. A wedding or
something that has production would actually be a special event. >> Okay. But for instance, people that come and they very often during long holiday seasons, right now it's going to be spring break is starting. They come, they put their tent out on the beach, they have their music out on the beach
for all intents purposes, they could have up to 40 people there. >> Are they not allowed to use that without a permit? >> Yes. if they just show up and go to the beach with 40 of their closest friends and bring a boom box and a tent. Yes. There's nothing to stop them from doing that.
>> Okay. Um Okay. Thank you. Vice Mayor, you had a question. >> Yeah. I mean procedural, right? So this this is a resolution which
resolutions don't require um to be a discussion item first. But I was what what was our resolution? It's like from 20 whenever we came up with this I think was it in 23? Yeah, in September of 23. So we we voted on this
is all all commissioner items that require an ordinance must first be scheduled and presented as a discussion item. So this is a resolution but it's requiring an ordinance. So procedurally we're off base here. Um I do find that topic interesting. Uh but I think we're
circumventing our process here. Uh and we're circumventing staff because my understanding is that this was not vetted or drafted by staff and that's their job, right? So whether this is legally sufficient or not, the city
attorney hasn't been able to look at that. So I we need things to go through staff. Uh so I mean if you want to bring this back as a discussion item, we can talk about it then. But I want to see what what a properly drafted document um before me.
>> A fair point. >> Okay. Any more comments? >> So, you're saying to bring it back next month after it's been worked on? >> I'm I'm saying if if we we want to have this conversation, it needs to come up as a discussion item first. That's what I'm saying. >> Okay.
So, a discussion item that's prepared from 3:00 to go to 6:30 that same day. >> That's not up to me, right? That's >> But okay, so for next month, be ready to
work with staff and have it >> this is perfectly fine like as it is. All right, let's >> the city attorney had actually the city um clerk has this timely two weeks ago. Um and I don't believe that they just
put anything we write on the agenda. They had to go through their process or written it or vetting it or whatever. If the city attorney wants to make any changes or recommendations, what I'm putting out there is not quotes that they have to print it as and given it.
is a clearly I'm not a an an attorney so whatever is it that is there I don't want anything on the agenda that doesn't make any sense >> I haven't heard anything from the city attorney >> I want them to read it vet it and make sure that it makes sense what we're putting on there >> these have not these have not been vetted because they weren't drafted by
us so >> okay it was right drafted by me so what is the difference >> the difference is your code says that the city clerk and the city attorney are supposed to draft the resolutions we can work with you to do that But we haven't vetted that factually. We haven't vetted it.
>> But you you guys had the time. So when I'm giving Yes, I give it on time. So I'm giving it as a draft for you guys to read it and vet it. So if you guys didn't do it, that's not up to me. And how our friend of the state of Aqualina says the beach is an extension of home
for both sides. Quoting that's not the case because right now anybody on the west side cannot do their events on the beach. We have had incidents with the people of unless they go through all these requirements that that most people
don't have access to. So in the way that I wrote it is to allow that only residents of the city of Sanas beach can have access to do their events on the beach as well. Uh this is not known for
for most people. I actually didn't know about this until it was brought to me. Um, legally, like I said, I can bring this as a resolution. Um, if you guys don't don't want to uh fix this, again, thanks God. And in a
few months, we're going to have a new commission probably that they have the willing to do it. Um, and I will bring this back in three months as another resolution. And I'll give you the time to read it and clean it and draft it.
>> Mr. city attorney for the purposes of of the public and just for the record what is the correct procedure for drafting um a resolution >> a new procedure that you created >> that >> by chart by the chart >> by by the code the by I think it's
section 74-15 resolutions ordinances are supposed to be drafted by the city clerk and city attorney you all in 2023 passed a resolution setting forth guidelines on with regards to how you put things on the agenda anything that requires an ordinance whether you bring it as a
motion, a resolution or anything else. But if it requires ultimately an ordinance, it has to come for discussion first. >> Okay. Thank you. Take a motion. >> May I No, no, >> you have a question. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I have some comments. So, I I I would like to see some sort of um
I would like to to see this fixed. Okay. Whether it's in a month or two months, but obviously doing it um through the clerk and the city attorney. But I think that the entity that should be controlling the permits should be the
city itself. Okay. I don't think that people from the west side should be dependent on the approval of buildings on the east side. Okay. The beach is everybody's beach. Okay. I understand the logistics of it. But if
they can bring a company that could, you know, transport everything through the access points to the beach and they don't have an issue doing that, I don't see why we should be limiting this or putting any hurdles into giving these um
people from the west side a permit to to to be able to organize something. Now, obviously, we want to maintain the peace. We want to maintain a calm atmosphere at the beach. We don't want any issues to happen. Okay? So, you
know, we need to stick to rules and regulations. We need to have enforcement and that's why we have code compliance and we have a police department to impose and to make sure that everybody is abiding by what is permitted. But
yeah, I don't think that people from the west side should have a partnership from the people at the the east side. And what about if the people on the east side are biased and don't want to have or don't don't want to permit people from the
west side to do anything at all. So I I I I think that the structure should change and um it should be allowed for anybody to apply for a permit and us the city should be the one uh approving that
permit. It should not be dependent on any other party. >> Another um clarification about discussion items. If we make this a discussion item, our friend from Aqualina or anybody from the public cannot participate in the discussion.
You cannot even talk to us and the discussion item will be closed only to to this body and I believe what we are having right now is a discussion and this is legally sufficient. I can put the resolutions and like I said, I'm going to continue doing it. >> Okay,
>> mayor. Thank you. Go ahead. Uh, I just wanted to provide some information regarding these beach events because I've been dealing with them now for the past 13 years. I would say the majority of the time the event that's described to us described
to us that someone wants to have is significantly less intense than the event that they have. So, inevitably we're told and I'll use the yoga as an example. This came up in the past. It was supposed to be just a few people
having yoga on the beach. It turned into a lot of people and they brought a sound system. They had tables for giving out flyers and events. We got a lot of complaints from that from the
adjacent property owner. So >> So you're saying it >> Hold on. >> I think you reversed it because I think >> Commissioner Joseph can let the manager finish. be larger than what they originally say. >> Correct. Larger. Thank you. It larger
and more intense. So, I don't see that there's anything here to fix. I think that we have a procedure in place where they can get a permit. And the example that the commissioner brought up, it worked out well. They partnered with
someone on the east side. They were able to provide electricity, have a successful event that we're also able to monitor, control to see if there's police, ocean rescue. We get request for events on the beach weekly, including
the pier. So, if we don't have some sort of protection in place and it becomes a free-for-all, to your point, Commissioner Lama, regarding accessing our beach access points, >> the question is where are they going to
park to offload their equipment? Are they going to stop on Collins? Are they going to park across the street? We've had requests from people across the street that want to transport stuff daily. They they want people to trans they want to be able to transport stuff daily and
then store it on the beach. So, it's always more intense than what it's supposed to be. And then that also affects our residents that are using the beachwalk for some of these significant events that we have on the beach. is
very involved with the um with the equipment, the power, water, waste as the gentleman explained and all these things are affecting our residents that are enjoying the beach. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll take a motion. >> I have a question about the storing on
the beach as it is. I see large storage on the beach in chairs and tables etc. on the beach and on the dunes, not on the properties of the of the buildings. So I am surprised to hear that storing
on the beach is an issue when there is multiple boxes being on the beach used for storage. So I I guess we are allowing the storage only for certain type of people the people that live on
the east side and uh apparently it bother us when we see things being rolled by the people on the west side and that's why I said that the people that brought out this to me they were using that specific word that we are
discriminating this is a discrimination issue so um so uh and we are talking about hypotheticals about what kind of events are coming or are not coming. Like we said, right now we don't have even the the opportunity to apply
because if you are not partnering you your birthday party, your small wedding or your whatever it doesn't even get to the to to the pro to the applying process. So I do believe that this is something that has to be fixed and I
think there is consensus here in this commission for that. >> All right. Would you like to make a motion? >> Of course, I make a motion. >> I need a second. >> I'll second. >> Can you take a roll call, please? >> Sure. >> Be clear. What What are we moving the
resolution as drafted? >> Uh, Commissioner Stewis's resolution >> as drafted. >> As drafted for you to draft whatever is needed. >> No, no, no. We can't do that. >> No, that's what he says. >> Yeah, but I know, but we need guidance as to what you're asking us to change an ordinance. We need guidance as to what
do you want for us to change in the ordinance. We don't even have the ordinance in front of us >> to give access to what? Because I cannot write an ordinance clearly. That's the thing. That's why we asking >> that's why we have the process of discussion so that we can have >> we're having a discussion right now. >> This is the wrong process, guys. >> No, it's a process that you guys
created. So >> that you signed off on your your name is on this resolution. >> No, >> you've spoken a lot about process today, but you don't want to follow it now. >> Okay. here is very specific is section one in incorporation or they were asked
to be incorporated. Um the timeline for the presentation to bring it to us on the next commission meeting which is in 30 days. Um the comm the commission hereby directs the city attorney to draft in the necessary municipal ordinance and or
charter amendment referendum language required to formally establish a full independent oh I'm reading the inspector general I'm so sorry I'm reading the wrong a direct resident to resident permitting framework that allows any verified homestead resident of son's beach to
directly apply apply for a and obtain a beach event permit subject to a standard municipal safety fees and cleanup requirements without requiring the permission of any third party condominium board, hotel or upland
property owner like commissioner or vice mayor Lama said. Um now what just taking the control from the hotels and putting on the city And again, the challenge that staff has
is when so for example, if you pass it as written, you as a commission are saying that this bureaucratic requirement creates a discriminatory two-tiered system of residency are yeah, effectively banning every resident living on the west side of Collins Avenue as well as those living in non-
oceanfront properties on the east side from utilizing their own public beach for private family events simply because they do not owe oceanfront real estate. you. This is a statement of the city commission this evening. >> Thank you for the clarification. >> That's your That's the resolution and
your warehouse clause. It also refers to unnecessary bureaucratic bureaucratic delay. >> Um there's other aspects that says that they cannot apply for a permit. They can apply for a permit. They just have to be able to provide
>> what's required. But well, they still can apply though. That's inaccurate. Uh so that's why >> I think this is why this needs to be done not on the day but beforehand. So all right, a motion was made by Commissioner Stubis. Did I have a second? >> He second it.
>> I second it. But on consider on reconsideration. I would like to have this deferred for further review and have it come back next month. >> Okay. >> Um in an accurate form. >> So you're taking back your second. And do I have to >> I'm I'm sorry, mayor, but we the motion
was made the second and it was seconded. We now have to go for the vote for that motion. >> Even though Okay. So, >> even though it was made. Yeah. >> All right. Go ahead. >> Okay. Commissioner Cyent, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> no. >> Commissioner Lama,
>> no. >> Vice Mayor Viscaro? >> No. >> Mayor Setchin? >> No. >> The resolution fails 4 to one. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Sure. I lost my voice. >> All right. Do it.
>> I think that the staff has has got enough, you know, we've circumvented the discussion process, but the essence they've they've they got the gist. Let's just say next item, please. >> Next item is 9V, directing the city
manager. a resolution directing the city manager and city attorney to draft the necessary legislation, ordinances and/or ballot referendum language required to establish an independent in-house office of the inspector general. Yeah, very self-explanatory as well. It's just uh I
spoke about this on the um budget that we need an office of the inspector general considering the amount of money that we have um in our capital improvement plans, the amount of money in our budget and it's just best
practices. This is a 8020 issue. So, it just makes sense to have it and like other cities had done it in the last few years. Okay. My objection is exactly >> one second. I just need to know if there's any public speakers. >> There's not. All >> right, Vice Mayor.
>> My objection is exactly the same. This requires an ordinance. It it should go through the discussion process first. >> I agree with you. Anyone else have comment, >> Mr. L? >> Yeah, I agree. I'd like to have a discussion, take a good look at if we do move forward with this, delineate what
the responsibilities are because I have perhaps some other vision of of you know what this position could be. So I would like to have a discussion on this for sure. Yeah. So, you know that for that for this uh to be able to to move
forward, we have to have it on the ballot in November because the people has to vote for it. So, we don't have that much time for this. Um like I said, um it's just like having a police department with internal affairs, right?
We we need this. Uh we have multiple contracts that they don't come to us because they're they're for $49,500. I can bring those um for you to see it. Um we have multiple contracts that they
being split in two and is the same owner. So they don't come to us as well. So clearly there is the need for this and again it's only giving uh the right now the request to bring it to us to
make it happen. >> Madame Mayor. >> Yes. >> If I may just really quickly just you know just a point of clarification because I did briefly speak with uh uh Commissioner Cyverson about this prior to the meeting. So even if this this
resolution were to pass, you know, assuming that it would pass, it would still require an ordinance that requires two readings, the purpose wouldn't be to put it on the ballot for November because it wouldn't fit the timeline that is set by the
supervisor of elections. Even then, it would require a special election. So especially given that it's a presidential election, the timelines shift a little bit and become earlier. So if there's movement on this, just to be clear, it would be special election
at this point. >> Thank you. All right, I'll take a motion. >> Thank you for the clarification. I make the motion. >> And you second. >> All right. I No second item dies. Next item. 9W is a resolution directing the city
manager to activate, populate, and publish the public facing open checkbook and transparency portal of the city's existing open gov municipal software. >> Well, yeah, today we we spoke a lot about transparency and the lack of it that we have in this administration. So
right now we are paying for um certain software that had the ability for the public and the people to see any and every expense and check written by the city. We don't have that uh
available for the people but we're paying for it. We have those capabilities. So this is only to direct the the city manager to give more access to the people to the financial information of the city.
>> Do we have any public speakers? >> Uh we do not. >> Okay. Any comments from the commission? >> Was this discussed at the workshop? >> No. >> Okay. Okay. I need a motion.
>> Motion. Second. Okay, I second the item dies. Okay, 9X is a resolution formally censoring the mayor for an ultra vera act abuse of power and the unilateral exclusion of former elected officials
from taxpayer funded public anniversary celebration. Adoption of this resolution formally censors the measure for exceeding executive authority, misappropriating taxpayer a taxpayer fund the public forum and breaching professional
intergovernmental decorum by prohibiting historically significant former elected official from participating in a public proclamation presentation. The city of Sanas Beach recently hosted an anniversary beach party funded by approximately $300,000 in taxpayer
dollars. As a publicly funded municipal event, the celebration and its corresponding stage and programming belong exclusively to the residents of the city, not to any single elected official. During the event, Miami Day
County Commissioner Mickey Steinberg attended in an official capacity to present a formal proclamation honoring the city's history. Present at the at this civic celebration were the city's founding father, former Mo mayor Norman Errol and former mayor Dana G. When
county commissioner Steinberg and city commissioner Fab Styverson respectfully requested that those historical significance officials be invited to the stage during the reading of the proclamation, the major un unilaterally and hostily deny the request. This
exclusion necessitates a formal censure by the city commission for the following legal and ethical reasons. The ultravari the city of Sonier's beach operates under a city manager form of government. The city charter grants the mayor no enumerated power to act as a unilateral
gatekeeper of a taxpayer funded public stage. Banning the city's founding father and a former mayor from participating in a public civic recognition is an ultravirus act. An action taken entirely outside the legal
scope of the mayor's authority. Misappropribation of public forum. A 300,000 plus taxpayer funded event is not a private function or a political platform. By weaponizing a public stage to exclude a specific individuals, the
mayor misappropriated a public asset transforming a community celebration into a private vanity project and violating the public trust. Bre of the quorum. Publicly denying a sitting Miami day county commission's request to honor a city's founding father is a sever
severe breach of intergovernmental decorum. This conduct violates the spirit of the Miami day county citizens bill of right which mandates professionalism courtesy and respect from all public officials and it brings unnecessary embarrassment to the city's
reputation in direct protest of this blood and abuse of power and out of profound respect for those present. I did not I declined it to participate in the state presentation refusing to legitimize or empower exclusionary
conduct. A formal censure is the standard and necessary legislative mechanism used by municipal bodies to publicly reprimand an official who acts outside the bounds of the legal authority. By adopting this resolution, the city commission formally condemns the breach of the codum, demands a
written apology to the affected parties, and reaffirms that all city events belong to the taxpayers. >> Maria, do we have any public speakers? >> We do. >> Okay. >> Annabelle Toba. Good evening,
>> mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, >> just your name and address for the record. >> Sure. Annabelle Taimma, uh, Halenale Beach. I signed up to speak because censure is meant to be a statement of disapproval, not a tool for coercion. The US Supreme
Court in Houston Community College system versus Wilson made clear that censure is permissible when it is simply speech. But this resolution goes further. It demands that the mayor issue a written apology to specific individuals. That's
no longer just speech. That is compelled action. Under Lasman versus City of Riviera Beach, when government action is used to pressure or retaliate over speech disagreement, it raises serious constitutional
concerns. What is especially troubling is the inconsistency. The resolution accuses the mayor of misusing public form and exceeding her authority. Yet, the body is now being asked to do something very similar. Use
governmental power to impose a directive that benefits specific individuals, including those who may be aligned with the sponsor of the resolution. I'll read that again. use governmental power to impose a directive that benefits
specific individuals, including those who may be uh aligned with the sponsor of this resolution. In effect, it replaces one alleged overreach with another. Only this through the formal vote of the commission. This is not
accountability. This is escalation. And it matters because once you move from expressing disagreement into compelling action, you open the door to legal exposure to the city, potential First Amendment violations, costly litigation, and taxpayer funded defense
of what is ultimately a political dispute. This does not affect one person. It puts the city at risk. Censure should be reserved for clear ethical violations, not used to compel speech. settle political differences or create
uneven standards of authority. This resolution criticizes overreach yet at the same time requiring it. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, >> Isaac Felman. >> Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor,
Commissioners, and City officials. Would you speak to the mic, please? >> Your name and address for the record, please. >> Can you hear me? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Now, yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Good evening. My name is Isaac Feldman, 177 Collins Avenue. I have been
in the city since 1991 and involved with this community for decades. I want to address this censure resolution carefully and based on what the chapter actually says. Commissioner Silverston raises three accusations. Ultra virus. I
mean many people didn't even hear what what it means. I don't know if you know what it means. Abuse of power, misuse of public forum. I will address each one directly. Ultra virus ultra uh under section 2.2A of the city
of Sanb chapter charter the mayor is the official representative of the city in all dealings with other governmental entities. This establishes that the mayor has a defined representative role. This matters involves a city event and a
presentation on the stage. There is no charter provision requiring former officials to be included and there is no charter authority given to individual commissioners to control event representation based on charter. There is no support for the claim that the
mayor acted outside of her authority. Abuse of power. An abuse of power requires misuse of authority. Here the issue is a decision about event participation. There is no indication of personal benefit, misuse of city resources or violation of charter
duties. Disagreement with the decision does not make it an abuse of power. Now misuse of public forum. A city event is not an open public forum where a participation on stage is guaranteed. There is no chartered language requiring
specific individual to be included. Without such a requirement, this claim does not apply. Context that really matters. Now to the real why it happens. Former mayor Donna Goldman served for a short period approximately 10 to 11 months. In the following election, the
voters made their decision. >> I thought that we don't name people. We don't allow that. >> I can. >> Yeah. I I thought that that's >> In the following election, the voters made their decision clearly. and elected mayor Larissa. She has been serving the city since and
she is seeking re-election this year. At the same time, residents are seeing at pattern. Commissioner Fabola Silverson repeatedly pushes Donna Goldman forward at the city events at the Kabad Jewish Center ribbon cutting where she was
presum let him finish his time instruction. Okay. And now through the central resolution. You're wasting my time. It's my time. >> You cannot name the people. We're not We're not going to go back and forth. Finish your We're not going back and
forth. Commissioner said, "You're out of the president to see both commissioner Jerry Joseph and Commissioner Bao Service actively using their position as commissioners for campaigning purposes. Commissioner Jerry Joseph for his own mayoral ambitions. Commissioner Fabola service to support Donna Goldman. This
is supposed to be >> you see you see what's happening." >> Final point. Marissa's Mayor Lisa. Yes, please. >> I'm finishing. Two more minutes. >> Thank you. No, not two more minutes. Just finish your sentence, please. Yeah, he cannot. >> Yeah, exactly. No, he can. Okay, so I'll finish with one statement. If there is
no charter violation that it is that then this is not about law. This is about politics and everyone in this room and across the city understands the difference. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Do we have any >> Why are we allowed to be abused by a six-year federal felon? Guys,
>> I'm I'm uh >> I'm going to ask this commission regardless of the item that's before us. We're Please, we're all going to This is the end of the meeting. Please maintain
your decorum. Please do not yell at the speaker. If I don't recognize you, you're not recognized. Let the speakers speak. >> Pardon? Commissioner Stup, what did you just say? >> I had nothing to say to you.
>> Keeping it classy. Go ahead. >> My name is Ital Southwest 167 Terrace, Pome Bay, uh, Florida. Uh, as not a as not a resident, but as a visitor who comes here, I don't know, three times a week, four times a week sometimes,
and attend almost every meeting in the last us a year or a little more. I never heard Madame Mayer abuse her power. I've seen a lot of things. I know it's election year. It's politics. It's not
kind of politics that you guys want to have in the commission. I'm very sad to see that occurring. As observing the observing the government coming in and doing things here in San Beach, I never
seen any kind of problem. The only thing was the traffic, but it doesn't really matter. The traffic is everywhere. It's really sad that I observe Madame Mayor being attacked on several occasions for really no reason. It's
really sad to see that happening. Thank you. >> Thank you. We have any other speakers? >> No, mayor. No more. >> Okay. Have any comments from the commission? I'll take a motion. I'll make a motion.
>> I have a question. So I I was not there. What what exactly happened? Can you can somebody explain? Can you explain? So >> So here's I'm going to say something very short because I do not want to get into a back and forth on this. It's it's
really beneath this body to even have this discussion. Um we all agreed to be on stage at 6:00. U because of the rain it was delayed. Commissioner uh Mickey Steinberg got
there early as did I. She made it very clear she wanted to leave early but then it started raining. >> We I believe all got somewhat separated. >> Mhm. >> We were waiting cuz remember you guys were coming late when she when she was
already leaving. There was two reasons why we did what we did at that time which was let her finish uh present her proclamation was one she asked because she wanted to leave and two because the rain was going to start again. Uh for the record,
Commissioner Steyberg never asked me to allow anyone on stage. But regardless of that, when we have events that are this big, there's a reason why everything is planned in advance because otherwise, especially when you have unexpected things like the rain, it creates chaos
and and dysfunction. So that's that's it. >> Okay. So for the record, I ask a question. Did I ask you for our former? >> Like I said, I'm not going to I'm not going to go back and forth. You screamed from the stage when when Commissioner Joseph and I were up up on the stage. I
asked you to come up because we were waiting for you. You screamed, can you let them? Or I don't remember exactly what I said. It's just for the elected officials and that's it. >> Well, they were >> we're not going to go back and I did actually was there and I didn't scream. I respectfully asked. You even called me
twice to the stage. I didn't go. It's like I don't understand why you takes this kind of pleasure of humiliating uh our former elected officials. You know, you did it with the art world. You did it with a birthday party. You over and
over. You've been doing this to our former elector official. >> I just want to say and everybody's gonna be a former elected official at some point. >> Thank you very much. I just want to say that I acknowledged both former um Mayor Edelup and Dana Goldman. And afterwards
I had specifically asked them to come and take a picture with us. They were not ignored or disrespected in the very least. And by the way, former mayor Bud um Bud Scho was there. No one is worried about him having to been able to go on stage. So this this is just all
theatrics there. Nobody was disrespected at all. But please and then could we just take a motion and and move on? >> I would like to say that um at some point in the future I will be a former commissioner. I don't expect to be on the stage on for future commissions. If
I'm happen to be in the audience, if I participate in the event, if I'm recognized, that's all, you know, that I would expect, but I do not expect to be asked on the stage. I I wouldn't look to be on the stage, and I would think that
the issue would be the same for any former uh mayor or commissioner now. >> All right. Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Stewson made a motion. I need a second. Okay. Motion dies. Next item is the last last item, the add-on.
>> Yes, the add-on item which is 9 I and it's resolution approving the issuance of a proclamation recognizing >> you say I or Y. >> Why? >> Okay. >> A resolution approving the issuance of a proclamation recognizing April 2026 as
National Poetry Month. >> So, as you know, I think every month is poetry appreciation month. Um, but nationally speaking, it's it's April. So I I you know I think of the month and you think a month ahead. So my intention was to do this just like the autism
thing. Um but yeah, so if we could um just acknowledge it and I'd like to present it um um next month. I I have an idea of who I'd like to present it to or maybe even at the um poetry at the park so that we have it ready. >> I don't know when it is, but I'd like to
have it ready so we can present it. >> Do you have someone in mind? >> I do, but I don't know if if I don't know who. Yes, I definitely have someone in mind, but I don't know if they'll if they'll be able to be here at the meeting or so, I have to coordinate that. >> Do we have any public speakers?
>> No, ma'am. >> Um, any comments from the commission? >> I'll take a motion. >> So, move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All right. Now, we are on to uh citizens forum. >> Yeah. >> David Virgil.
Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and commission. My name is David Virgil. My address is 17500 Northbury Road, Sunny Alis Beach, Florida. I just want to make a small suggestion to the commission meeting broadcast. I think it would be useful if you all add a like a clock or
the date to one corner of the screen so people watching at home could follow online or people watching later could know what time each item was called. I just think it'll be useful for some people. And one more thing, I know that the agenda review is usually is not
broadcast live, but anyone can ask for a copy of a recording if they ask a city clerk, and I've been given a copy in the past. So, it's not really that much of a private meeting. Um, and that's basically all I have to say. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Um, that's something that's possible to add a time stamp. Okay. All right. >> I think it's a good idea because like if you if you look for it online, it'll tell you, right? It'll say it, but if you if you happen to catch it on TV, you don't know.
>> No, I other cities do that. >> Do we have any other speakers? >> Yes. Fatal Fakovich. >> My name is Dr. Pos Southwest 167, Pay. Um, one of the things that deal with the having the clients here and deal with
our local law enforcement beach police department on several occasions. I'm really grateful that as coming in here as a visitor, I feel safe. There's only two places that I feel safe in San Beach
and Bay. And you know, as much as I have clients in Miami Beach, I don't feel safe in Miami Beach, you know. And to me that shows as your city manager, as a deputy city manager, it shows how they conduct and
have amazing police chief and amazing police department. And for that, I'm very grateful. Also, the station 10 that responds to your call. I had an emergency the last time I was here and I'm very thankful for having them here because they responded in the traffic in
three minutes and I'm very grateful to see the administration how you guys conduct the business and how the emergency response in this city. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Before you turn no other Do you have an announcement?
>> Yes. Don't cut the feed. Just a reminder that iPad programming is active. Uh we have uh basketball and volleyball going on at the spot and we have a jiujitsu boxing
combo going on at the uh Aventura Police Department. >> Okay, >> thank you for the announcement. All right, thank you everyone. Meeting adjourned. >> It's been really fun to spend time with my friends. I also really like the hot cocoa. So, and then that's also how I meet a lot of people. Like I just met
her here. >> I think it's wonderful. There's so many great Christmas decorations and Santa is literally right over there. It's the best. Every year we're celebrated with our friends, with our family. Happy New Year. Merry Christmas.
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