[snorts] Welcome everybody. We are here Thursday, November 20th for a city commission workshop and uh we're going to start with the call to order. Go ahead, Maurice. >> Okay, so I'll take role. Commissioner
Joseph >> present. >> Commissioner Cyan >> here. Commissioner Viscara >> here. >> Vice Mayor Lama >> here. For the record, Mayor Spetchin is absent. So, we have a quorum. >> So, we're going to start with special
presentations with item 2A. Um, go ahead, Mauricio. >> So, 2A is the photo contest winners for the 2026 desktop calendar. Okay. Good afternoon, Vice Mayor and Commission. I'm happy to be here again to celebrate the talented photographers
who capture the unique beauty of Sunny Al's Beach. Residents and visitors have submitted their best photos. And this year, we're proud to feature images from 16 different photographers in our 2026 desktop calendar. First, I'd like to take a moment to
recognize Alvivera Gatina, our city's graphic designer, who did another fantastic job designing this year's cover and calendar, as well as Vanessa Vieiraa, who puts a lot of work into managing the contest. So, as I call each winner's name, you
can come up to the front for your award and stay here so we can take a group photo at the end. First, our cover photo is by Moses Ban. Moses is a professional photographer who owns his own photography business, and his winning photo is a beautiful aerial
view of Sunny Isles Beach. Our introduction page is by Deborah Brochiro. Deborah is from Argentina and fell in love with Sunny Al's Beach after visiting 15 years ago. Ever since she and her family have been making memories here during their visits, and she's honored to be a small
part of Sunny Al's beach history. >> January is by Alicia Carrera. Alicia is a talented artist who enjoys acrylic painting and landscape photography. February, we have David Virgil. David has been a resident of Sunny Als Beach for 15 years. He enjoys taking photos of
different sites throughout the city as a hobby. Whether the stunning architecture, serene beach views, or the greenery of our city parks. March is John Cohen. John is a Canadian photographer who moved from Montreal to Florida where he enjoys capturing
landscapes, cityscapes, and seascapes. He has uh transformed his passion into a successful career. April is Phipe Lazarri. Phipe is a commercial photographer based in Miami specializing in architecture, real
estate, and luxury lifestyle imagery. May we have Carmen Diaz. Herman is a blessed mother and grandmother. June Demetrius Boures. Demetrius is a professional photographer and filmmaker specializing in aerial real estate and
wedding photography. He is an FAA licensed drone pilot and captures landscapes, properties, and special moments. July is by Nome Tal. Gnome is a photographer from Miami with a respective presence in the photography world. After discovering his passion
early, he quickly became known for his creativity, precision, and personalized approach. Today, he continues to capture Miami's most iconic locations for a variety of publications. August is Martin Davies. Martin is a retired high school principal from
Nottingham, England, who has visited Sunny Al's Beach since 1992. He has witnessed its transformation to a vibrant city and considers it his second home. September is Carol Perez. Carol is a Sunny Als Beach resident, realtor, and
passionate traveler who loves capturing the world's beauty with a camera, especially in places like Sunny Als Beach where light, ocean, and life come together perfectly. October is Sonia Fia. Born in St. Petersburg, Russia and now based in
Miami. Sonia is an artist and student at the University of Miami where she is pursuing her BFA in sculpture and her creative practice spans sculpture, installation, painting, and photography. November is Juan Munos. Juan is a
chiropractor and has been a hobbyist photographer for seven years. His specialty is seascapes and fine art photography and his favorite spot is the Newport Pier to capture the morning sunrise. December Kaglar Guzelle. Kagglar is a resident of Sunny Al's Beach and
photography enthusiast who enjoys capturing the city's unique light and coastline. His work focuses on simple, quiet moments and the beauty of everyday life. Our photography page is GMO Cardona. Yumo has been living in Sunny Al's Beach
for 5 years. He is a Colombian and American citizen, the author of seven books, and the principal of Miami Virtual School. He is happily married with three children and two grandchildren. And last but not least is Rissa Breuro on our connect with us page. Rissa is a
cosmetologist with a passion for capturing life's beauty through her lens. For the past 13 years, photography has been her artistic outlet, allowing her to see the world from unique perspectives. All right. So, that's everyone. [applause]
So, mayor and commissioner, if you could join us down here so we can all take a photo. And congratulations to all of you. We're very grateful you participate in this contest. And we have calendars in the back of chambers. And your bags also have two calendars in for each of
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again. >> Yeah. >> [snorts] >> Okay. uh vice mayor and commissioners, we are going to move uh the next item to be which is the Florida City Week writing contest winners down to the end of the meeting just to give these students a chance to come over from the
school. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, >> I agree. >> Uh we're going to go in now to discussion items. >> Uh 3A is a discussion and an update on the speed limit reduction and traffic calming strategies. >> Okay. So, we've been talking about this. I
mean, I just wanted to basically get an update and understand what has transpired since the time we spoke about keeping the speed limit at 20 miles per hour in the in our internal streets for the city of Sunny Al Beach.
I know that um after we had a couple of discussions with uh with the county uh we had the public also participate in in some presentations and I know that uh the county and some
some uh county representatives uh Mickey Steinberg's office and and some other um elected officials have have gotten involved. So first I wanted to understand where where we stand at the 20 m per hour. Okay. I wanted to get an
update as we as we had spoken and also I know that while we were in conversations with Miami date county they had brought up some uh trafficcoming strategies and things that could be implemented to help
obviously the the city the community. So, if I could hear a little bit about uh what's going on, I would appreciate that. >> Vice Mayor, commissioners, um thank you for asking. The county commission is
going to have a resolution. I got an update this morning, December 2nd. Okay. be on the their agenda that would um pave the way pave the way for us to be able to go um and pursue reducing it to 20 m. >> Did you write that one out? >> I did it. I did it.
>> Or you just Yeah, >> just came to me. >> Yeah. Awesome. >> Uh to reduce it 20 m hour with their blessing. Yeah. >> Um in the meantime for the traffic calming, we did um contract with a consultant named Calran.
>> Okay. They're the ones who did the design for us for 183rd Street left-hand turn that you'll be um >> on the agenda considering tonight. They do traffic studies. They um perform they do the civil work for traffic coming
improvements. So, we're working with them on a design that we could then submit to Miami Day County to get it approved. >> Okay. Okay. Um, do we know now that the um, county commission's resolution, do do we have a timeline on that? If if
they approve, let's say they approve to allow us to keep the speed limit at 20 miles per hour, um, is there anything that we need to do? I mean, do do you know a little bit about the uh, implementation of that? >> So, after they prove, if they approve
it, it will have the guidelines, the criteria. I'm sure we're still going to have to do another traffic study and submit that to them, but it wouldn't benefit us to do it in advance without knowing what they're going to ask for.
>> Okay. Okay. Understood. Understood. And now regarding the the trafficcoming strategies, [snorts] um, aside from the left turn, do we know because I know that the county serving Well, yeah, the
county is giving us ideas, correct? and we need to implement them. >> It's everything that's permitted in the traffic code. >> Okay. >> Um and it includes speed humps, um narrowing intersections so that they are
safer, you know, you have to um you can't kind of make a rolling stop. Um so improvements to intersections and speed humps. >> Okay. Okay. Now, um, you know, included in that, I I would like to see also, you know, bike lanes.
I mean, we talk a lot about scooters and I wanted to see once, you know, the county starts moving and we start implementing some of these trafficcoming studies. I would like to see perhaps some bike lanes, some some scooter lanes, uh something where probably the
markings are a little bit more clear >> and um we could keep everybody safer. >> We um we've been working with Calran since that meeting over >> in the spring, I think, and our
preliminary plans do have a bike lane. It's actually a two-way bike lane. It will require a lot of road work to move curbs. Um, we're going to lose a lot of trees, but our goal was to present that to you in January to see and make sure
that everyone the commission is good with the trade-off. >> Right. Well, good. >> Okay. And step one of that, I mean, knowing that that was hopefully forthcoming is why the pedestri emergency pedestrian bridge has that green bike lane essentially. when we
repaved that, we put the green lane there that would um fall in line with where we plan to go with the rest of that. >> Is there any way we could put like a a green um you know how you have the the the bike lane on Collins limits painted
white and with the sun you can barely see it sometimes. >> So, is there any way we could paint that uh green or the county uh not the county dot could paint that that green? Um >> I know we have the discussion before. Yeah, >> the state has very strict regulations on
what that can be, um, we can ask them, but because it's a shared lane and not a dedicated bike lane. Got it. >> I don't anticipate that they would approve that. >> Is there anything that could be done? Let's say that we cannot paint the green. Is there anything that they can
do so it's a lot more clear? >> We will ask. >> Yeah, please. Yeah, cuz I I get concerned sometimes the way the sun hits, you're driving, you see somebody with a bike right in the middle of the lane >> and you're driving and I live here. I've
lived here basically most of my life. So, somebody that's not from here and is just kind of like using, you know, Collins Avenue as a thorough ways, which, you know, the majority of people that come through here do. I I just want to make sure how we could make it safer.
>> Yeah. >> We will ask. Yeah. Any other comments from uh the commission? Commissioner Stuban, Commissioner Joseph, any comments on this item? >> Yes. I actually um was up in Sarasota
and it turned out they had in their newspaper the same situation regarding the same situation that we have here uh with their county. Um, sorry. They were actually uh fighting
for and uh winning on the fact that they were being allowed to maintain their 20 mph speed limits. So, I had sent that to Susan. she looked into it and even though we're a different county and uh
we're dealing with FDOT and uh Miami Dade uh there are some aspects that would apply to us that we >> garner in order to help us. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah, I mean I we got support from
people in the county so I hope uh it looks like it's going in the right direction but it's government and it's politics. So, let's hope it keeps on the right direction. Yeah. Any comments? Uh, Commissioner Biscara? No, you're good.
Okay. Well, thank you very much. Um, I have mountains. We have all of the students here now. So, let's go back and consider the special presentation for the 2025 Florida City Week writing contest
winners. Good afternoon, vice mayor, commissioners. Myra Aliman, chief of staff. So, last month we celebrated Florida City Week with a writing contest for our sixth through 8th grade residents on the theme, what makes your
city special. The competition was very close, but today we are proud to recognize our five winners. Their essay stood out for their creativity and for the thoughtfulness ways they describe what makes our city special.
To our parents, teachers, and schools, thank you for supporting these bright minds. And to our winners, congratulations. We are so proud of you. Keep learning, keep asking question, excuse me, and keep believing that your ideas can help shape the future. I will
now call each winner down. So we have Elizabetha Churikova, Dmitri Sio, Isabella Sanchez Garcia. Yeah, >> Ori and India Sherikov. All right.
>> Thank you and congratulation once again to our Florida City Government Week winners. >> Yeah. So, uh be before we go down for the picture, I just wanted to see if anybody from the commission would like to comment. Uh I know you and Jennifer have something.
>> Yeah, I did. I I mean I I wanted first of all, I was just happy to have papers to grade again. Um, but I was I was actually really impressed and I can see how it was hard to to choose uh because the the whole batch was was really really good and I
was I was just really impressed with with the structure. We had thesis statements, we had nice conclusions, transitions, all very nice. Uh, and but the what I really liked about it was being able to see Sunny Isles through your eyes. the things that that you
liked that that you highlighted and what how how the city embraces you and how you receive it and it was that that was my favorite part. Uh and because there were a lot of um there were all good essays but not everybody was a winner.
So I just wanted to read some lines from everybody so you can so everybody can just get a feel what we read. like um Sunny House isn't just where I live, it's where I belong. Collins Avenue makes everything in the city organized so you can't get lost. Unlike many other
cities, this city has a lot of events from holidays to just movie nights. The city makes holidays so much fun. Whenever my family comes to visit, they always compliment the design of our buildings. The best thing is unlike other cities, the officers here are
super nice. Sunny Al is very diverse. There are people from around the world and the stores reflect that. There's also a place called the spot that makes Sunny Alles even better. Almost all the buildings have a pool, gym, and valet parking making everywhere a great place
to live. The wonderful mix of cultures and ethnicities is combined into one happy community. To be honest, the city is really safe. In Sun Beach, there are a lot of bilingual people. Just by walking down the street, you can hear English,
Spanish, Russian, and even French. The first time I walked down Collins Avenue, I was astonished by the stunning buildings. However, I also got to reap the benefits of the quieter areas near the bay. So, you get to live in a quiet apartment or feel the bustling city-like
energy. That's what you guys did. And and for that, I I'd like to give you another hand if that's okay, cuz you guys did great. [applause] That's all for me. >> Yes. Chair, would you like to say something? >> So, I was quite impressed with um all of
the essays. Um naturally, I was u required to uh put my specific numbers. Um, and I compliment everyone for their uh, hard work and um, emphasis on how Sunny
Isles um, makes them feel like home. And um, I just appreciate uh, your efforts. It was uh, everyone did a great job. Thank you. >> Continue continue [clears throat]
getting involved. Okay. So, continue. There are going to be more programs, more activities, other ways that you guys can continue being involved. This is your city. Some of you were born here for the essay. Some are new to the city, but you learn to love it the way we do.
Uh, I've been here in Sun for the last 18 years. I came from Venezuela here. I thought from here I was going to go somewhere and I stay. So, and it's for a reason. And you guys were able to translate that in your paper. So, I really admire you coming forward and
putting yourself out there for this competition. Uh hopefully in the future we're going to have a lot more people participating, but you guys did amazing. What they say is true. It was really hard to grade it. I might be one of the last ones to submit it because I could
not make up my mind. Uh but yeah, we need to have winners and you guys are the winners today. Uh and not only because of that, but like I said, because you guys are participating. Um, one thing that I love that you guys wrote and were able to express is the love for our PD, our police department,
how safe you guys feel here. And one of you guys said that even though there is issues with many police departments all over America, that's not the case in here in San those are part of our family. Um, and and you reflect that in many of the papers, people some of you
guys were talking about the police department and that was great and amazing. Fantastic. Hopefully that can translate to the world, you know, and everybody can we can continue start getting or we can start getting along so much better. So I congratulate you and
please continue being participating. Thank you. >> Yeah, thank you. So yeah, to me first of all, thank you because you know your essays were all great. Um even uh
everybody to me is a winner. Obviously, we have the ones that were chosen. Uh, you did a spectacular job, but to me, what I read, it was a gift. It was a gift to me. You put a smile on my on my face. And then you made me realize certain things cuz sometimes you get
into your bubble. You know, there's issues here, issues there, but it it makes you appreciate you you highlighted the good, you know, you highlighted, you know, the the the type of city that we live in. Um, you know, and it just makes
you be grateful for what we have. You know, you mentioned different things like safety, the events that we have, the multiculturalism that we have in the city, you know, the restaurants, you know, the different offerings and the different languages that you you you
hear spoken throughout the city. So to me it was something where it kind of um you know made me realize it woke me up again and said hey you know what we we live in a nice city and we need to be
grateful. So to me it was a gift. It was I was so happy to have been able to read your essays because it just kind of changed my mindset a little bit and say hey we need to be thankful. So thank you very much. Yeah. Vice Mayor, I have the
following statement to read on behalf of the mayor. Okay, pardon me. >> It reads, "Good afternoon, members of the city commission, city staff, teachers, families, students, and friends. Thank you all for being here to celebrate our students and for making this essay contest happen. To the
winners, congratulations. Your essays were outstanding, honest, heartfelt, and full of pride for our city. You've earned every bit of this recognition. Just as importantly, every student who submitted an essay deserves our praise. Each of you took the time to think about
what you truly love about this city, its people, its parks, its beaches, its spirit, and you put those feelings into words. The kind of reflection and care is what makes this community strong, and it's exactly what gives me hope for our future. I'm sorry I can't be there with
you tonight in person. I read every essay, and I want you to know how much they meant to me. They remind me they reminded me of why I do this job and how lucky we are to have young people who have already who already love the city so deeply. Thank you, Myra, for
organizing this contest and giving our students the chance to share their voices. Students, keep noticing what's good. Keep speaking up. Keep caring. This city is going to be in great hands. Congratulations to everyone who participated and thank you again.
>> [applause] >> So I think a picture what does I'm sorry. It's in blank. need for heat. like a slim. Yep. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Vice Mayor and Commissioners, we are now going to go back to discussion items. At the request of Commissioner Joseph, item 3B has been deferred. And also just to note um and if we have the consensus for the commission,
Commissioner Viscar would like to add on a legislative update at the end of the meeting. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. So 3C is a discussion regarding the Golden Shores on the grounding project. >> Yes. Okay. Okay. So, I had um put this
um item on the agenda in order for the city manager to give us an update regarding Golden Shores um as to FPNL and also the uh cable companies um what the status is, how they're
progressing. I know for myself that um AT&T has still not even though they say they're installing fiber, they still have not as of yet. And Breezeline is not doing a fiber at all. Um
so I would like to uh please have an update. We have one available. >> Vice Mayor. >> Yes. >> Thank you. I I spoke at length with deputy manager Simpson and she's going to give you an update.
>> Thank Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Uh Vice Mayor, commissioners, we have to date as of Monday 105 homes completed, 15 that are vacant lots. So we consider
those completed because we don't have to do anything with them. So that's 120. and we have 46 that we still need a permit for. The rest are in process. >> Um we did get an email from AT&T. They
they are um working on some path issues uh that just came in this morning. I haven't had a chance to find out what those path issues are. >> Are they doing fiber or are they not? >> They are doing fiber as a totally
separate project. So as for this project they were as we talked about before like for like and then part of their own upgrades their own business upgrades to get more customers and better service they're doing fiber on their own.
>> Okay. So the fiber originally they uh said to myself and to Senator Piso that they were doing fiber at no additional cost. >> Correct. to the city or to residents. >> Correct.
>> So, originally they're installing cable >> and then they're going to come back and and install fiber >> as they do with many of their community upgrades. The fiber is an upgrade. So, because we were bringing down the lines,
they weren't ready to do fiber there yet. So they were just replacing like with like part of their business plan to upgrade included this area for a future project which I believe is in 2026.
>> Okay. So we have a time frame. Now the houses that haven't um supplied the permits to the city, >> what is our strategy to uh get them in compliance? >> We're going to work with code to find um better contacts and how we can reach out
to them. We've literally gone to the homes. We've posted notices. We've mailed notices to no avail. >> Well, a lot of those I I presume are rentals. So, we need to >> correct. >> I use Miami date my home or whatever to find because they all have mailing
addresses. >> They do. >> I believe. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> I have a question regarding this. When are we looking at the completion date for this project? It's all going to depend on those 46
that we can't get a permit for. >> Okay. >> We cannot bring down the lines until every single home is connected. >> What happens if they don't answer? >> They will cross that bridge.
>> Okay. Like the uh like the company from the for the seaw wall for God. Okay. All right. >> Oh, I have one other question. Sorry. So, the our cost if um does it go up
because we're delayed with people um you know not complying? >> As of now, there's been no cost increases due to time. >> Okay. But is that could there be? I'm going to guess no because we've
already purchased all of the product and usually the price increases are due to product increases, but it it's going to depend on how long. If it's within the next few months while they're still working in the area, no change.
>> Okay. So, for for the city, it suits us to go after these people more quickly then. >> Absolutely. Yes. We want the project completed. >> Thank you. Okay. Next item is 3D discussion regarding
banning e- scooters and ebikes. Okay. This is also my item and I'm trying to um discover what the results of our survey was uh regarding banning scooters from the sidewalks.
Mayor >> who's going to >> Y >> we've done a tremendous amount of community outreach as you all know and we're also looking at the legalities of how some other cities are enforcing this and what we're going to do is bring you
back the results of all of that for you to give us some direction on how we can move the process forward. We continue with our enforcement as you've directed us to do. We're doing daily enforcement through the police
department with scooters, but this is a broader area that we need to study a little bit more and continue compiling the data, including the surveys and our outreach with all of the residents.
>> Okay. So, I can continue. We had this survey and the results were completed when >> um we closed the survey online. >> Amy's here. She just gave me this
information. >> Hold [snorts] on. It >> It was around the summer. It would I think I I thought September 22nd or something like that. >> Yeah. >> And the survey ended. >> So shortly after that we should have had
results. >> Yes, we have the results. Um there's going to be a full presentation by the committee that's headed up by Julio for the J January meeting when we would have developed a code for you to consider as well.
>> Okay. So we do have some >> everything. Yes. All of that data is in the survey is closed. I believe it was September 20th. >> Yes. >> Um and all of that will be presented to you at the January meeting along with
our proposal for how to move forward. They've also looked into what all the other municipalities in Miami date county are doing and trying to align ours, you know, with what we're learning is effective. >> Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, we'll look forward to that in January. >> Okay. So, any other comments from the commission regarding this item? >> No. >> No. Okay. >> Next item is three discussion regarding
the city of North Miami Beach's fees for water service. >> Yes. >> Go ahead. >> So, more and more people are contacting me regarding their water bills that are just going higher and higher. Um, I know that North Miami Beach services several
cities and I had asked for uh the rates as they um pertain to Sunny Isles and other surrounding cities. actually all of the cities that North Miami Beach
services as to their uh per gallon rate compared to what Sunny Isles is in order to determine if we're being um charged fairly and and uh when it was that the
rates were first determined or negotiated and whether it's time to maybe renegotiate these fees. Please >> go ahead. Anybody want to comment? Mr. City Manager, >> we've done some initial research and it
seems as if we pay, we being the city pay the same fees as the other cities that are in contract with North Miami Beach. And the fees are also limited by state statute. So in terms of
any negotiation, we'd we'd have to research that further, but I I'm not sure that we're in a good bargaining position regarding that. We can certainly look at it. >> Okay. I would like to please receive um
the rates for that that North Miami Beach charges to um all of the cities that they service um so I can compare them to Sunny Isles rates. >> Vice Mayor, may I? >> Yeah. >> It's a 25% search charge
for us for all of them >> anyone outside of their jurisdictional boundary. Yes. 25% search charge. So, North M Beach pays less. >> Correct. The residents do pay. >> The residents pay less. Okay. Yeah, we want that rate. >> Yes. But I would still like >> utility.
>> I would like to um see please the per gallon rate and then what each city is charged. I know it's easy to say 25% across the board, but I would like to have those numbers on a page. >> The rates are published on their website. I'll print that for you.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? No. Okay. >> Okay. So, we have the next uh item which is the add-on uh lead legislative update by Commissioner Viscara.
>> Okay. Thank you. This will be brief. I um I just wanted to uh just get back on the radar because we I feel like we just finished the the other one because the the budget ran into the summer and you just get a
right. you get a little break and and you know officially the session begins in January, but there's already committee activity and we already have uh some things that have been uh submitted. I sent out a um a newsletter
uh with with some of the things that I told you around budget time that we were probably going to be seeing and it's coming to fruition, which is all the property tax um bills. The good news is that it's not as um blunt an approach as
was originally stated that oh no property taxes because they realized very quickly well how are you going to fund the schools? How are you you know so now a lot of these bills that are coming uh forward is property tax on on XYZ but but not the school
part. So, the schools look like they're they're not um on the block, but municipalities will be. Our our um our budget uh is going is going to be impacted if all of these um go through.
But what they've done is they've broken them up into different ones. So, if they all pass, we'll probably be in trouble. But if some pass, we'll probably be okay. And I'll just give you some examples. Well, and then there's other issues. Not it's not just property taxes. Um, the one that I highlighted is
one that we've talked about before, the suits against the government. We we this is like what year four or five that we're talking about it and uh that's uh [snorts] the limits on that that I mean a government would need to pay in a
lawsuit. We all agree it needs to go up, but if the if what's being proposed is uh not reasonable, then it fails. and and it looks like we're on that path again because small cities with small budgets uh can't wouldn't can't handle a
lawsuit. So when when you do a state law and it applies across the board, you have to consider not the Sunny Isles beaches of the world but the the smaller towns. Um property property tax stuff is uh elimination of
non-school property tax for homesteads. uh phased out elimination of non-school property tax uh for homesteads. That's a different one because that's the phased out elimination of non-school property tax for homesteads for persons age 65 or
older. So that's more narrow. Um assessed home value homestead exemption of non-school property tax. Property insurance relief homestead exemption of non-school property tax. uh acred save our homes property tax benefit and
modification of limitations on property assessment increases so that and they're just getting started so we're probably going to see more uh but they're breaking it into different things so for example as I've stated uh like a a property
break for homesteaded people over 65 I makes sense but on a on across the board uh it becomes problematic if you're a a local government. So, that's the update. We're going to be updating the website
and, you know, we're going to be tracking it like we did before and that's it. >> Okay. [clears throat] Okay. Well, thank you very much. Any comments or questions? >> No. No questions.
>> What' you say, Jerry? >> No questions. >> No questions. Okay. All right. Well, meeting a turn. I can