Good evening everybody. Thank you for coming. >> Yep. >> Um we're about to commence. Today is Thursday, November 20th, 2025, 6:30 p.m. This is the regular city commission for the month of November. Call to order.
Commissioner Joseph >> present. Commissioner Cyet here. Commissioner Gcara >> here. >> Vice Mayor Lama >> here. >> For the record, Mayor Specion is absent. So, we have a quorum. >> All right. So, um Luis, you want to lead
us to the pledge of allegiance? >> Definitely. >> Let's do it. Yeah. >> And do you have one here? >> Yeah. >> You could look this way. We looked up. that it alleged the flag of the United States of America to the republic for
which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, Rabbi Baron. >> Thank you for the invocation. >> Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.
It's wonderful to see everybody. Dear God, master of the universe, we stand humbled before you this evening and we recognize all of your blessings that you have bestowed upon us. We're mindful of the fact that you have blessed this city with wonderful
leadership, direction, dedication, and a guiding spirit which has resulted in the many successful achievements over the last 28 years. We recognize that we are gathered before you this evening in pursuit of fulfilling your wishes. as
you dear God empowered humanity with seven basic universal laws after the great flood of Noah. These laws were once again reaffirmed by Moses at Mount Si to be taught to all of humanity. Universal laws that provide a framework
of law, order, and justice which will allow humanity to settle the earth in a civilized manner. We recognize that we have been entrusted by the citizens of Sunny Alles Beach to perform this sacred duty. Almighty God,
please provide us with a consciousness to constantly be aware of of your presence so that we're consistent to our mandate. Please grant us the courage, strength, wisdom, intuition, sensitivity, and the patience necessary
to succeed so that we leave a leg legacy of having a positive impact upon society for many generations to come. Protect our police force, our servicemen and women serving domestically and overseas in the name of freedom and democracy. Please give them the peace of mind,
insight, and intuition to be successful. Please guide our city staff to make the right decisions with honesty, integrity, and knowledge for all of our citizens into the future. And may they continue to serve as positive role models for our beautiful community. May everyone
gathered here tonight and all the residents of Sunny Al's Beach granted with good health, peace of mind, and prosperity. And let us say, amen. >> Amen. >> Thank you, >> McCain. So, um,
>> thank you, Rabbi. >> Yeah. So, can I get a motion for the approval of the minutes from the October commission meeting? >> So, move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you.
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meetings that serve both the public and the city commission. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. >> Okay, so we have a couple of changes to tonight's agenda. Um item 9M which is an agreement with
the Watts group for PA repairs has been deferred. We are also moving up item 9N to the beginning of the resolutions. And I would also like to note for the record just because it was presented
during the meeting in October uh the two zoning items that were deferred. They were deferred to this month, but they're also being deferred to January tenatively. Okay. So, just for the record, and those two zoning applications are PZ 2022-12,
which is a request from MIA43 for balcony enclosure at 17749 and PZ 2022-08, a request from MBRE Investments for a site plan approval at 19501 Collins Avenue.
So if I very well a motion to approve those changes. >> Motion to approve, please. >> Yes, I'll second. >> No, no, no. I'll make >> Can I get a motion, please? >> Okay. Motion. >> Yeah. All right. Thank you. >> All in favor? >> I. Thank you.
>> Okay. The next item that we will consider is ordinances for first reading. 6A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Hills Beach amending the text of the future land use element of the adopted comprehensive plan providing for repealer providing for severability
providing for transmitt to the state land planning agency and providing for an effective date. >> Go ahead. Thank you. >> Uh good evening vice mayor and commissioners. Um now sitting as the city commission uh you just heard this item as the LPA. Um, this is a text
amendment to the future land use element of the comprehensive plan. And this amendment is the first effort to address the inconsistencies between the comprehensive plan and the land development regulations. Um, we've been studying and addressing this for a few years now. We've had several commission
workshops regarding it. Um, the amendment has a large cleanup component to it. Um, it adds critical definitions to the future land use element. It updates statutory references and date references. um eliminates redundant policies and updates the population
projections in the element. Um the other component of this amendment is to establish the upper levels of development for five specific future land use categories. Um the amendment came before you in August where it was unanimously approved and then it was transmitted to the reviewing agencies
for comment and we received one letter from the department of commerce um saying that one particular policy which was 14A lowmedium density residential was found not to be in compliance with Senate Bill 180. So the amendment package that is before you tonight
address that concern. And so for the lowmedium density residential category, the maximum density remains at 13. Um should the commission approve this ordinance on first reading tonight, it will um come before you for second reading in January.
>> Okay. Very well. Any comments from the commission? No. Any public speakers? >> No, sir. >> No. Okay. Can I get a motion to approve? Yes. Uh Tracy Slavvens. >> Okay. >> Good evening again. My name is Tracy
Slavvens. My address is 3800 Northeast 1st Avenue, Sweet 200 with LSN Partners. I'm here to reiterate my support for this amendment and Transmitt. Um this is important for the future of the city and important for the developments in the pipeline. So I thank you again for your
support tonight. That's all. We'll share. >> Can I get a motion? >> Motion. >> Okay. Second. Anybody? Okay. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Susan. Commissioner Viscara.
>> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Lama. >> Yes. The ordinance is adopted four to zero. On first reading. 6B is an ordinance. Excuse me. It's an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunnyal speech amending
chapter 265 article 7 section 265-44 of the land development regulations entitled specific use regulations by establishing procedures for the review and approval of the certified recovery residences and creating a process for requesting a reasonable accommodation
from land use regulation that serves to prohibit the establishment of a certified recovery residence in accordance with section 397.487 section 15 pyraph A of the Florida statutes providing for repealer
providing for servability providing for transmittal to the state land planning agency providing for an effective date. >> Okay. Good evening vice mayor and commissioners. Um this past year the legislature passed a bill um requiring all counties and municipalities to adopt
an ordinance that will establish a procedure for reasonable accommodation for certified recovery residences. So currently the land development regulations doesn't have a reasonable accommodation procedure. So this ordinance creates a new subsection under the specific use regulations of 26544
for certified recovery residences. Um, it establishes some definitions and the process. The proposed process is that an applicant with a reasonable accommodation request will submit an application to planning and zoning and the ordinance outlines all of the application requirements. Um, once the
planning and zoning department determines the application to be complete, it will be transmitted to the city manager for a final determination. Uh, should the city manager deny the request for reasonable accommodation, um, the decision may be appealed to the special magistrate. Uh, so with that,
I'm available to any questions. >> Thank you. Any comments from the commission? Any public speaker? >> No, sir. >> No. Okay. I get a motion. >> Motion. >> Okay.
Commissioner Seusen, >> yes. >> Commissioner Viscara, >> yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Lama, >> yes. >> The ordinance is adopted on first reading. Second reading is scheduled for January 2026. Okay, perfect.
>> Okay, now we're on to ordinances for second reading. 8A is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Alis Beach, Florida, repealing chapter 150 of the code of ordinances entitled exterior walls and awnings, amending chapter 265, article two of the land development
regulations entitled definitions and rules of construction to define the city color palette creating article number eight of the land development regulations entitled architectural and design standards to establish citywide design regulations including exterior
color and material requirements, providing for repealer, providing preservability, providing for clarification, providing for an effective date. Vice Mayor and commissioners, um this ordinance is before you for second reading. Um just to reiterate the
purpose the um this ordinance proposes to move the color requirement for buildings from the code of ordinances chapter 150 into the land development regulations which um is better for process and procedure. Um the ordinance
also establishes that uh buildings can have accent colors up to 25% of the exterior walls can be black, dark brown or dark gray. and it says that the city commission will adopt the city color palette by resolution which is also before you this evening later on the
agenda. Um, one change since first reading was that the ordinance was interchangeably using the terms structure and building but those are defined terms in the zoning code. And so the intent of this ordinance is to regulate the color of buildings. So, we
consistently use the term building in the ordinance rather than structure and building because structure could be anything from a mailbox to a driveway to a street light and we don't want to regulate the color of those items. So, that is uh the only change since first reading and I'm available if you have
any questions. >> Okay. Thank you. Comments from the commission. >> Any public speaker? >> No, sir. >> Okay. I get a motion. Motion. Second. >> Okay. Commissioner Pascaron.
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. Commissioner Syas. >> I'm sorry. Commissioner, could you your microphone? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Commission uh Vice Mayor Lama. >> Yes. The ordinance is adopted. 4 to zero.
8B is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of San Beach speech amending section 26-3 of the city's code of ordinances titled city commission resolution to provide election information change of polling places
amending section 26-5 titled canvas of election returns certificate of election amending section 26-6 titled qualifying as candidate for mayor or city commissioner and fee many section Section 26-7 titled supplemental
qualifying period amending section 26-8 titled content filing and form of oath amending section 26- 26-9 titled names of qualified candidates to be printed on ballot amending section 26-10
titled installation of new officers amending section 26-13 titled elections amending section 26-14 14 titled terms of office residential areas term limits amending section 26-16
titled vacancies for office filing filling of vacancies repeating section 26-11 titled repealer repealing section 26-15 titled qualifications providing for servability providing for
repealer providing for inclusion in the city code and providing for an effective date Uh, vice mayor, commissioners, this item is a second reading of the uh, amendments to the election code. And as I mentioned before, and if you recall
during the meeting in October, these changes uh, are brought about just to bring the section of the code in compliance with our city charter as a result of the charter amendments that were done recently and uh, to reflect some um, updates and best practices. So
there are no changes between second, excuse me, between first and second reading. >> Okay. Comments? No comments? >> I actually have a question. Uh our um
>> has the charter been updated or do we need to do this before the charter is updated? >> No, the charter is already updated. This is just bringing that up to date. >> Okay. >> Okay. Any public comments? No sir. >> Okay. Can I get a motion?
>> Motion. >> Second. Third. >> Commissioner Joseph. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Situs. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Viscala. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Lama. >> Yes. Ordinance is adopted. Port zero.
8 C is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al's Beach creating chapter 187 of the code of ordinances of the city of Sunny Als Beach entitled vessels and waterways to establish regulations for the anchoring of certain vessels upon the city's jurisdictional waters providing for
implementation repeal of severability codification and an effective date. Vice Mayor, commissioners, this is the uh ordinance on second reading regarding overnight anchoring and regulation of uh certain vessels within your
jurisdictional waters. There have been no changes since first reading. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Perfect. >> Any comments from the commission? >> No. >> Comments from >> No, sir. >> No. Okay. Can I get a motion, please? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Commissioner Stipen. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Viscar. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph. Yes, >> Vice Mayor Lama. >> Yes, >> the ordinance is adopted 4 to zero. >> Great. >> 8 D is an ordinance of the city commission of the city of Sunny Al Beach
amending ordinance number 2024-618 approving budget amendment number BA2425-07 to the city's operating capital improvement budget for the 2024 2025 fiscal year. authorizing the city manager to do all things necessary to implement the terms and conditions of
this ordinance providing for an effective date. >> Okay, vice mayor, members of the commission, this is a second reading of our final budget amendment that will close out the prior fiscal year and it represents routine transfers and
adjustments to the final budget. >> Okay, thank you. Any questions from the U commission? >> No public comments. No sir. >> Okay. Can I get a motion, please? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Commissioner Viscara. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> yes. >> Commissioner Styverson, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Lama, >> yes. The ordinance is adopted 4 to zero. Okay, we're now on to resolutions. First item that we are going to hear is 9N
which is a 9 is a resolution excuse me authorizing the city managers to negotiate an art donation agreement with Joseph Milson for the sculpture known as Mariposa asoulles by Monolo Valdez.
Thank vice mayor, members of the commission. Just to give you a little background, I was contacted by Mr. Milton regarding uh the process for donating the art that's located on the corner of 163rd Street
and Collins at his building. I explained to him the process that I would need to bring it to the commission and get your approval first prior to entering into any discussions regarding an agreement.
>> And Mr. Milton's council is here if you have any questions. >> Good evening, commissioners. Carlos Diaz with offices at 333 Southeast Second Avenue. We're here on behalf of Mr. Milton. Luis Mata from Joseph Milton and Associates is here as well. Uh the manager Sarah, we're here to donate a piece of art that's very iconic, right?
is in the calendar that year that's here. We would like to take some for our office today. We appreciate that. We just want you to go ahead so we can negotiate, not negotiate, but come up with the donation agreement with the manager and then that'll come back to you for approval right after. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.
Appreciate that. Any questions or comments from the uh commission? >> I I do have a question. Um do you know and and normally I like to provide these questions in advance because I don't like to surprise people, but it occurred to me late in the game. How um how much
do you know how much it costs to ensure that that u sculpture? >> We can get that information for the next meeting. I don't know that off the top of my head, but we can we can get that. >> Then then I'll I'll because I did have a few questions, but again, I don't I don't want to put you on the >> No, but that's something we can definitely answer for you.
>> Okay. Um yeah, that was that was the big one for me. Uh because it it is it is beautiful. I mean, it's it's right. It's it's May. It's the May picture. uh and uh it is beautiful but it's it's um it can represent like I'll just tell you my
like my lawyer brain perspective >> okay >> is uh similar to a position I took on something else it's like we can already enjoy it without having liability as a city >> correct >> so >> that's why I'm asking well you know what
is the insurance or because it's such a it's I don't know how much it's worth and so it's a very generous gift so I don't want sound ungrateful, but um there's also those questions. >> No, and that that'll be part of the agreement, right? All that stuff will be covered in there in terms of maintenance
and liability to make sure the city doesn't have any additional liability, right, for these work of art, but we will we'll work all those terms out before we come back to you. >> Okay. >> And commissioner, >> yeah, I just want to make sure that it does come back to us. I know that you have like a December break, but uh it it is something I would like to consider
when we come back in January. And commissioner, we uh council and I had brief discussions, explained to them as the manager did that, you know, obviously we couldn't negotiate anything until we had direction from the commission. But you raised some issues that we'll have to work out with regards to liability, insurance, location, you
know, we'll need some kind of licensing agreement for the for it to remain there, things of that sort. Those are all things we can work out if we get direction from you uh to go ahead and negotiate. Those are all issues that'll come back. I'm always good with getting more information so that we can make an
informed decision and like I said on it like I I spoke to Mr. Mat. Oh, I guess we needed to disclose any exparte. Um but um >> it's not quasi judicial. >> Oh, okay. Great. >> So, well, it's out there any but uh it's it's it's a it's it's a very generous
offer. I just think that we need to uh like think it through and make sure that we're we're not inadvertently shooting ourselves in the foot uh in other ways. So, I I'm perfectly fine with exploring all of that and and hopefully it comes out the other way, but the devil's
always in the details for me. So, >> yeah. Yeah. What what what I like to know, and I know that we still need to enter into negotiations, but if we we take possession of the uh the art piece, um let's say 20 years down the road, can
we move it or if we need to move it, can we potentially put it somewhere else in a park in Town Center Park or somewhere else? >> Those are the details we're going to work out. Uh my position would be yes because you own it >> but you know there may be understandings
as to what the ramifications are to that if you remove the piece might be leaving a little hole there. So you might have to fill that hole. Uh those kinds of details you know we'd have to to but those are the things that we will work through to think as much as we can of all the contingencies that may come up.
>> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? >> Yeah I have a few questions. So um this is the procedure for any and every donation or only certain donations. >> You don't really have you have an ordinance with when it comes to art
donations. Uh although the way that your ordinance is written, it's really contemplated with regards to it being attached to some sort of development, whether it be public building development or private development. And that's really how it's all framed.
There's reference in there to art donations, but it's really tied into development. This is a little bit different. You really don't have any other provisions in your charter or your code with regards to someone giving you something. Donations, when you're giving something, there's a procedure. when
you're receiving something, there's really no procedure except or what's really in your um your art fund uh ordinance which does provide the city commission authority to consider art donations. >> Yeah. Which is part of my my question
because it's like we have two facts. >> They want to donate the part and is in the best of interest of the city to accept it like we want to have it. Um so my question is why isn't that we don't have an agreement right now in front of
us with all those everything about easement liability insurance maintenance clearly that has to be outlined um in a draft in a in an agreement in a contract why we don't have that in front of us right now to discuss and vote on it you
guys have been having discussion as it is you know so I don't know why the extra steps of having to give authorization to do that when you guys have been doing that as it is which is the the right thing to do. So I just don't know why we don't have a draft in front of us.
>> We haven't been negotiating. So we were contacted and and certain overtures were made as to what the intent was. I am not authorized and frankly your city manager is not authorized to start negotiating this without your say. So >> not able to draft an agreement. So >> I I can't start making I can't start
making deals with folks before you direct me. I'm I'm I'm your lawyer. You're my client. >> Okay. Perfect. >> Independently start doing. >> So, okay. So, well then it goes back to like my initial point. So, if the um city if the attorneys for the applicant
let's call it like that uh give us a draft, it will go through you. It will be presented to us with your recommendations. So, um what is it that we're waiting for them to give us a draft to us so we can discuss it and vote on it. Uh that's the thing. I I
don't like the extra steps, the extra bureaucracy. Um I do believe it's a no-brainer that you guys need to it has to go through legal and through the city manager before coming to us. It's just that all these extra steps I find I find this just completely unnecessary. I
would like to see the draft and then get the recommendation to accept it or not and then we can make any changes that is necessary. Again, the facts are simple. they want to donate it and I do believe it's in the best interest of the city to accept it. Now those details like you
said the details are are are the double. So those are your department. Again I just would like to see a draft in front of me. >> Well I I mean I I think we're going to see it in in January. That's the intent. Right. >> Right. >> Yeah. There's no draft currently. Right.
Is there a day draft they sent or us something but the thing is again I can't >> the statement's been made that it's in the best interest of the city I I can't make that determination you all have >> correct so once you do that then we can get into the details um >> yeah and we do have >> direction through the chair we do have a
draft I mean it's if we can set the date in January I think we can definitely >> I mean we'll again we'll work on it but I can't negotiate on your behalf until you tell me >> understood understood okay so so with that being said I don't know if there's any other comments or the um
>> I I would only I would only say that I think that breaking it up in into steps while slower I think is more transparent, right? Because otherwise then the criticism is why are you guys doing things without going through us or
getting direction from us? So this way they're coming to us, they're going to get direction and it is a more transparent process. But yes, it's slower, you know, I'll grant you that. that it's you pick your poison, you know. So, >> well, I think I think this is again it's
a generous offer. Uh but sometimes like I think you need to slow down just to make sure because that's our due diligence. It's we have to consider everything and we may end up, you know, on the same page, which we probably will. But anyway, I just I think it's more transparent this way.
>> Well, we're we're sitting here. I think regardless of what we say right now, it it's going to come back January. You know, I think if we want to have an agreement and approve it right now, I think that train has has passed. So, let's um let's go ahead. I mean, I don't know if there's any question.
>> Yeah, go ahead. Chair. >> So, I'd like to ask a question of the city manager. >> Yes. >> So, we've had in the past other um donations, correct? Um I don't recall now that that motion noise machine that we had in our lobby
at city hall. >> Oh >> for some time >> that's not a donation. How was that? >> We purchased that. >> Oh, we purchased it. >> Yeah, that was part of the um our art program. >> So that was a purchase. Yeah. >> So let's consider we purchased it but we
still had a load of maintenance on that. Correct. It's ongoing. Yes. >> Yeah. There's always going to be maintenance. >> There's always going to be maintenance. So, that's something to be considered. Um, so we need to know what the maintenance is currently on this item.
Um, and now we have other artwork that's outside that the city has acquired. Correct. Yes, there's artwork. Yes. In the city. Yes.
>> So, how how is that artwork affected by um let's say a hurricane? Is there any hurricane insurance on those items? >> We do have insurance. Yes. For the items for art throughout the city. Yes, we do have insurance. Yes. Yes.
>> That's something that you would obtain on this one as well. >> Correct. We would have to obtain insurance. Yes. And how is how is that determined? Is it according to the the value of the piece or is or do you do we have like an umbrella policy? I'm sorry I didn't ask
you these things before but and >> it would it's determined on the value. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So and that's information you'll provide obviously. >> Of course. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. So um then I have another question. Um so for example in two weeks
we are going to have the art. Um is that a donation that we receive from the artists? Are we paying for that? >> It's an exhibition. No, they come and they exhibit and it's a activity that we >> organiz how we know. Are we paying for
that? Are we receiving the donation from the artist to be there? Because to the point about for example when we were discussing the art donation of Romero Burrito for the lifeguard towers the argument is that oh why are we accepecting that without opening to
anybody or everybody all the artists whatever uh so we are having an event in two weeks. Uh that's my question. Are we paying those artists that they're going to be exhibiting here in the in the city or is that a donation that they're doing
of their art? We are paying the gallerist, not the individual artists, >> which will be like basically like the broker of the artist. >> We're we're paying a fee to have their
art displayed for our event. It's like hiring somebody to display their art. Yes. >> Okay. And we uh who chose who is going to have that um privilege of being here basically for free and on top of that
we're paying them to exhibit an artist >> our staff. >> Okay. So staff is making those decisions. in the um aim of transparency. How does does not that come to us for Uhhuh. >> It's not a donation. It's it's it's a
program. It's an event. >> Regardless, it should come. Yes, it should come to us. You know, >> we don't approve programming in the in the specific. >> Well, this is this case is not a programming. What we are doing is paying to promote an artist that we don't even
have any set or so. We are using taxpayer money. We are using our building. So if somebody fall down talking about liability in that moment, so who's going to be liable? So just again this is zero transparency. So the
transparency cannot be pick and choose. We're picking and choosing here. >> They presented a draft that draft never came to us. If I don't ask that question, I would not even know that they did a draft. We should have a copy of that draft. And then right now with them here present,
>> commissioner suicide, ask questions. Okay. So, we could have the questions already asked from the draft they presented. So, yeah, I know uh that's apparently how government here function. Zero transparency. Uh very slow, completely different to the private
sector. So, now we need a meeting of a meeting of a meeting to accept a donation. Just commissioners, let let's just move forward. I mean, we don't have the draft right now in front of us and then we could the other topic you brought up. We could discuss it further. You could discuss it with staff, but you
know, at this point, I think >> the point here is to move forward. Thank you very much. It's a generous donation. Yeah. Would you like to say something? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Good evening. Luis Mata, Jan, Associates, 2211 Pelon Boulevard, Coral
Gables. Thank you all um for this pleasing and and and seeing all of you here. Um we're anxious and excited to give Well, what I believe is I was excited to see your calendar. Beautiful. We're in the calendar of May. >> May. >> Yeah.
>> So, um although it doesn't have a magnet, but um there was a comment made about windstorm and in going back and forth, Mr. Milton, I know that there's been conversations about and with council about um the legalities and whatnot.
It's in front of our very proud in class A building that we're very proud to have here in Sunny House. um whether or not it will be taken apart prior to in order to to protect it during windstorm. Um that will be something that um we can
obviously address and and and and make sure that you all comfortable with. But at the end of the day, um I'd like to thank you for allowing us to come here and if we could come back in January once we hash out what's needed. Um if we can just get a date at a time.
Um I'd like to wish you all happy Thanksgiving and Happy holidays. Between now and then and again any other questions that you have for me, I I'm here to answer. Thank >> you. Appreciate it. Yeah. >> So sure it'll all work through. >> Yeah.
>> I'm sure it will work through. >> I appreciate that. >> Okay. Okay. So, can I get a motion, please? >> I'll make a motion. >> Okay. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah. Have a good
holiday. >> Regards to your families. >> Okay. Okay. The next item on the agenda is 9A, resolution updating the official city color palette for exterior walls and structures.
>> Okay. Good evening, vice mayor and commissioners. Uh this is a resolution to adopt the city color palette. Um the city color palette that's before you has 160 colors. And um the way that we chose these colors was we took the palette
that was um pre previously in chapter 150 which was the Sherwin Williams fundamentally neutral palette. We took those 160 colors and worked with Sherwin Williams to update the numbering system. And so that's the palette that's before you. has more information so that way
color matching with other brands and m uh other brands of materials is easier for um applicants. Um so I'm available if you have any questions. >> Any comments from the uh commission? Any public speaker? >> No sir.
>> No. Okay. Can I get a motion, please? >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. All >> in favor? I >> I >> Okay. 9B. >> Excuse. Yes. 9B. 9B is a a resolution authorizing the
chief of police to expend monies from the foreure account to purchase fuel force and ride control gear and equipment. And vice we're going to combine this item and the following which is 9C. It's a resolution authorizing the expenditure of budgeted
funds for the purchase of the fields force and riot control gear and equipment from tactical edge consulting. >> Okay. >> All right. Any questions from the commission on this item? >> No. >> No. >> Any public speakers? >> No, sir. >> No. Okay.
>> Can I get a motion? >> Motion. >> Any seconds? Yeah. Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. 9D is a resolution
approving an agreement with Millennium Products to install surveillance and security equipment at the spot. And we'll also combine this one with 9E, which is a resolution waving the bidding requirements set forth in chapter 62 of the code of ordinances approving an agreement with Millennium Products to
install surveillance and security equipment at the Inter Coastal Sports Park. Okay. Um any comments from the commission? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I think these these are two great items. Um because it would if I'm understanding
it correctly, it's this these would be the surveillance that would be added to the hyper wall. Right. So yes, it would be >> the the spot in particular because it's where our kids are. It would be in in uh visible uh in within the police station.
Uh and then in coastal that's great. So, >> I'm supportive. >> Yeah. Vice Mayor, if I could add just a caveat on 9E, although it says waving bidding requirements, you're not actually waving for the whole item. It's only for about 13,000 of the total,
which are open market items. The rest is uh through the piggyback. So, it's not a complete waiver. >> Understood. Okay. Any other comments? >> No. No. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think this is great. Um
especially at the at the spot. It's it's what we needed. It's a it's a major upgrade from from what we currently have. So, yeah. Um can I get a motion for that, please? >> Some move. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I
Okay. 9 9F is a resolution rescending resolution number 2025-3851 awarding invitation to bid number 25601 and approving an agreement with Georgia
Enterprises as a primary awardee for preventive maintenance services of HVAC management systems located at the government center fleet building and the building department modular. Okay. Vice Mayor, members of the commission, this awards a contract to Georgia.
They're the company that we have worked with to service and maintain our air conditioning system. And this building, the building department modular and the fleet building. And vice mayor, if I can add another caveat, my apologies. Um, you previously
approved this particular contract. It's coming back to you because there was a change in insurance. The umbrella coverage was at 3 million and it was reduced to 2 million and since the contract hadn't been executed yet and there were changes being made, it's just being brought back to you. So that's why it's repealing the old one and it's just
replacing the new one and that's the only change. >> Right. Understood. Any comments from the commission? >> No. >> No. Any public speakers? >> No, sir. Okay. Can I get a motion? >> Motion. Can I get a second?
>> Second. Okay. All in favor? I >> 9G is a resolution authorizing the issuance of a purchase order to Granicus for software services for various departments for fiscal year 2025 2026. Mayor Commissioners, this item is just
as it says to purchase a excuse me to issue a purchase order for Granicus, which is our agenda management software that we use to put together our agendas for these meetings and also they provide um website services for the city's website. Okay, thank you. Any questions?
>> None >> comments. Okay, any public speakers? >> No, sir. No. Okay. I get a motion, please. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> 9H is a resolution authorizing the city
manager to negotiate a lease agreement with Toshiba Business Solutions for five copers. Vice Mayor, members of the commission, these are the copers that we use in the government center and we are negotiating or interested in negotiating with
Toshiba for a 60-month lease for those copers. Okay. All right. Uh I see that one is out of order. The one in the um in the mail room currently to Toshiba
>> where and we will we will get it fixed. This includes maintenance by the way here in consumable correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. Are we >> is their maintenance good? It's up to par. Are they quick? >> They are. They they've been responsive.
They've been >> when you lease. Yes. >> She is one of the best companies when you buy. Okay. Interesting. >> Okay. >> They make their money on the leases. >> What? I'm sorry, Commissioner. >> They make their money on the leases. >> Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Okay.
Uh, any other comments from the commission? Any public speakers? >> No, sir. >> No. Okay. Can I get a motion? >> Motion. >> I thought the copers were like the hot topic. No. >> Yeah. All right. Have a second. Does someone second?
>> Oh, did someone second? >> Here. >> All in favor? No, we haven't. Hold on. >> Yeah. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay. >> Thank you. 9 I is a resolution approving an agreement with UKG Chrono Systems LLC to
provide timekeeping and scheduling software and hardware. Vice Mayor, commissioners, this is a company that we use for tracking of all of our time and attendance for police as well as all city employees.
>> Okay. All right. Any comments from the commission? >> No. >> Public speakers? >> No, sir. >> Can I get a motion? >> Motion. >> Any second? Yeah. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay.
9J is a resolution authorizing the expenditure of budgeted funds for the purchase of two 2026 Ford F-150 trucks from Duval Ford. Okay. Vice Mayor, commissioners, this
authorizes the purchase of two 2026 Ford F-150 trucks or CCS. One is a replacement and one would be a new vehicle. >> Okay. And when is the delivery for these?
>> I believe it was March March. >> March 2026. >> 2026. Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Any comments? >> Again, I'd like to mention regarding the uh reverse cameras and the software. There's been recalls on these Ford F50s.
So, please um mention that so that uh we have updated equipment. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> And the vehicle that's being replaced gets sold, right? >> Helps mitigate the cost.
>> Yes. All of our vehicles and equipment like that gets auction through Gov deals and then the money returns to the budget. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Very well. Okay. Any public speakers? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Can I get a motion? >> Motion.
>> Second. >> Second. Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> 9K is a resolution approving a second amendment to the agreement with Contour Marine Incorporated for the turnkey design and installation of boat lives at
Bella Vista Park. >> Mayor, I'm sorry. Excuse me. Vice Mayor, members of the commission, this is allowing for a design of a fence that will help secure our boat lifts for what's going to be our future marine
patrol division at Bella Bella Vista. >> Okay. And and can you explain uh the the change a little bit? Why why is this? Um, originally we were going to do some
additional work to try to secure the boat lifts. >> Mhm. >> And it was determined that if we were to able be able to move, we changed the design a little bit to move the fence to a different area. We could still accomplish that while spending less
money. >> Okay. >> That's how it ended up this way. >> All right. Thank you. Any comments from the commission? I just thought that it was curious that um Tom took this project on but he refused to bid on the seaw wall which I
thought was very curious. >> Okay. Uh Commissioner was >> Yeah. I was just um curious as to the how long it would take to do it because this is what's missing in order to open
that that piece, right? the that the the uh marine station. So 90 days >> 90 days. >> So by 90 days we we may we'll be positioned to open that the station >> plus or minus
>> okay 90 days we'll be positioned to have the boats there. The marine patrol office is 900 days away. It's >> all right to an exaggeration but >> almost three years. So, you're saying there's a chance?
>> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> All right. You can. Any other comments? Any public speaker? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Can I get a motion? >> Motion. >> Any seconds, please? >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor?
>> I. >> Okay. 9L is a resolution approving an agreement with NBR Construction to provide drain repair services at the Heritage Park parking garage. Vice Mayor, commissioners, this is
needed repairs for the drain system at Heritage Parking garage. Okay. All right. Any comments? >> No. >> No. Any public speakers? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Can I get a motion?
>> I'll make a motion. >> We'll second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. The next item is 9 >> 9mm. >> We already did 9 M. >> M >> M >> M is deferred.
>> Oh, no, that was Yeah. Yeah, deferred. Yeah. >> Okay. >> 90 is a resolution awarding invitation to bid number 259012 and approving an agreement with AUM Construction with the 183rd Street and Collins MU left turn conversion project.
Vice Mayor, commissioners, this is the left turn when you come out of Publix heading on to Collins heading northbound. This will enable us to go in and have this work done and have it done properly according to FOT standards.
Okay, very well. Um, let me check something real quick. Hold on. Give me one second here. >> Are we going to be able to try to find
can we see like the drawings or something be like schematics? Are they going to provide us that? >> It was in the bid document which is available. If you would like we can >> Yeah, you can send it to me. I I'm just curious to see what they're going to do.
And uh I mean this is great because hopefully it'll avoid the confusion that is happening right now and um it will add to the safety of for drivers and pedestrians and and and what have you. Yeah. Okay. Any comments from the
commission? >> No comment. >> Okay. Any public speakers? >> No sir. >> Can I get a motion? >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? I >> Okay.
>> 9P is a resolution approving a parking license agreement with the Habad Lubovich Russian Center of South Florida for use of a portion of the property located at 500 Sunny Albert. >> Vice Mayor, commissioners, this allows
for the us to enter into a parking license agreement with the Habad for parking in our Bella Vista area. This is a month-to-month agreement and the rate is 5,000 per month.
>> Okay. Can you please let us know more or less how many parking spots are we talking about? >> We believe approximately 18 to 20. Okay. All right. Any questions from the commission?
>> So this Yes, I >> go ahead chair. Um, this lease is temporary. >> Is that it? >> It's monthtomonth. >> Month to month for as long as the uh Bella Vista um the dockage is still
being worked on. Is that it? >> Until we would need access to it. So, as long as it doesn't interfere with our use and it's beneficial for both of us, we would continue. But we have the option to cancel. >> I Okay. Thank you. Okay. Any public speaker?
>> No sir. >> Can I get a motion, please? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> Okay. The resolution passes. NQ is a resolution establishing the schedule of regular city commission meetings for
calendar year 2026. Vice Mayor Commissioners, this schedule is for the 2026 calendar year. There are no changes to our current structure of having these meetings held on the third Thursday of every month with the
exception of May. Um the meeting would have fallen on May 21st, which is a holiday that I will not try to pronounce, but it's on the 21st. So, we're moving that meeting for that month to the Thursday before the week before.
So, basically the second Thursday of that month. >> Okay. The 14th. And um because our resident David Virgil requested it at last year, uh we also compared to make sure that there weren't any other u major religious holidays that would
conflict with any of our other meetings and there are. >> Thank you, David. >> Yeah, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah. >> Any questions from the uh commission? >> No. >> Any public uh comments? >> No, sir.
>> No. Okay. Can I get a motion, please? motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I >> Okay. 9R is a resolution appointing Alex Lama as the city's delegate to the National
League of Cities and Jennifer Viscara as the alternate to attend meetings from November 2025 through October 2026. >> Okay. Any comments from the uh commission? Any public speakers? >> No, sir. Okay.
Can I get a motion? >> Some moved. >> Second. Okay. Any call? Um um all in favor? >> Hi. >> Okay. Okay. 9S is a resolution approving
appointments to the historic preservation board for calendar years 2026 and 2027. Main commissioners. Uh if you all recall I sent you well we had a a call to applicants that was issued at the beginning of this month. It was open for a period of about two weeks. In total we
received seven applications. Last week I sent you all the list of all the applicants. We received a total of seven applications. This is a seven member board. So it was presented for you all for your consideration. Um, I can read off the
names of the applicants that we received which were Jeff Gassen, Warren Stam, Robert M. Richardson. >> Excuse me. Um, Mr. City Clerk, could you also name who recommended those people?
>> These are applicants. >> Anyone? >> They were applicants. >> Okay. So, they weren't on anyone's recommendation? >> Not to my knowledge. >> Yes. >> No, we're not appointed. the these are applicants. They all they all had to apply. >> Okay. So, there's no commission person
or mayor connected to any of these names currently. >> Well, so I I provided you all with the list with the idea of you all selecting someone from this list to appoint to the to the board. If you would like to mention who you want to select as your appointment, you know, you're you're
more than welcome to do so. >> If if we had had 20 applicants, how how would it have played out? Then I would have asked you all to give me a name as your appointment >> from the list. >> From the list. Yes. >> But since we only have seven spots,
we're >> seven spots. >> They're basically all in. >> Yeah. >> Right. They're all in. >> We don't have to pick. Yeah. >> But we don't know whose preference each person was. >> We have no idea. I mean, you can make your own investigation. Again, if if you
would like to select someone from the list, you know, you're very, you know, you're welcome to do so to mention your specific appointment. >> Me, I'm familiar with the list. I just don't know whose recommendation. >> I can I can have that for you for the next meeting. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. So the last few applicants were Robert Richardson, Natalyia Anda, Marijah Marlite, Maxim Yanovich, and Martin Teller. Keller, excuse me, Keller. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.
>> And what happens if uh one of them resigns and we we don't have any like a backup? >> Yeah. So that's why I'll have uh who each commissioner will appoint and have a name to that appointment so that in the future we have someone that resigns,
we'll know who has that vacancy to fill. >> But at this point, unless we have somebody specific, you'll just you're just going to assign somebody to our names. Yeah. >> And then if if like my person >> for for now because remember >> to drop out, then I would be in calling to recommend someone. So remember these
appointments are valid through December 31st of this year. So at the meeting in >> wait >> this year. So they expire. >> This is a 30-day appointment situation. >> No, no, no, no. The current appointments are valid through December 31st. So at
the meeting in January, I'll come back with the list of who each commissioner will >> Oh, I see. Okay. >> The name attached to that. >> You're going to randomly >> unless somebody expresses, right? Unless somebody >> unless somebody expresses a preference and you know someone there or you Yeah.
Or you like their background experience, you could say >> this is my appointee. >> You can you can >> Marcio already knows my attachment. >> It's him. >> Yeah. It's the others that I'm not aware of. >> Okay. All right. Bring that back in
January. >> So January we'll uh revisit this and we'll each have a um somebody appointed to us. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, um, any other comments? Any public speakers?
>> No. >> No. Okay. Can I get a motion, please? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Okay. Excuse me one second. Okay. 9T
is a resolution approving the nomination of Jennifer Viscara as vice mayor. Mayor commissioners, excuse me, vice mayor commissioners. Uh this me this item is brought forward by Mayor Spetchin. Um as you all know, there's a requirement in
our charter for the vice mayor to be appointed at the November meeting in the year in which there is no election. Um, this is the mayor's appointment and she sends this statement to be read on her behalf and it reads, "Dear members of
the commission, as I am unable to attend the upcoming commission meeting, I've requested the city clerk to present this memo on my behalf. I first wish to express my sincere gratitude to Vice Mayor Lama for his exemplary two years of service as vice mayor. His steadfast leadership and dedication have
significantly strengthened the commission and his contributions are deeply valued. I'm honored to nominate Commissioner Viscar for the role of vice mayor. Having known Commissioner Viscar for over 10 years, I can attest to her exceptional qualities as both a commissioner and just a good person. Her
deliberate, thoughtful approach and steadfast professionalism make her the ideal candidate for vice mayor. In her final year as commissioner, this role would be a well-deserved tribute to her remarkable remarkable service. Commissioner Viscar demonstrates a keen
understanding of how a chair must lead a meeting with efficiency and clarity. She cultivates a respectful and inclusive environment, attentively listening to speakers, showing disrespect, deep respect for staff and addressing any commissioners divergence with poise and
fairness. Her ability to navigate disagreements constructively combined with her unwavering honesty fosters productive and harmonious discussions. I'm fully confident in Commissioner Biscar's ability to keep the commission focused and effective. I urge the
commission to support this nomination. >> Any comments from the commission? Any public speakers? Jerry, go ahead. I would just like to say I'm I'm um I have nothing against uh Commissioner Viscara's nomination, but I believe in
fairness and since um Commissioner Lama's been vice mayor twice, I was vice mayor once, Commissioner Viscara has been vice mayor with the previous mayor. I believe that
we should um rotate in a fair manner um to have Commissioner Aola to um to be vice mayor at this moment. >> Any other comments?
>> No public speakers. >> No public speakers. Okay. >> Uh go ahead. So, um, can I get a motion? >> I'll make a motion. >> I can make the motion. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. Can I get a second? >> Oh, it's a It comes back in January. >> I do have a few comments now. Okay. Okay. So, >> will it have to come in January to the attorneys? >> Well, to your charter.
>> Okay. your charter requires a vice mayor. Um, so it depends if it ends up in a tie, it comes back in January. Uh, I would also appine that since it's required in your charter, if it's fails, um, your charter requires a vice mayor.
So, the mayor would have to either nominate the same person again, go through the process again, or nominate someone differently. But, it would have to come back to you because you do have to have a vice mayor. If you all at some point cannot agree on a vice mayor then congratulations.
>> Let me ask you something. >> Vice Mayor Llama you would remain. >> So in the meantime he would stay. >> Correct. >> Stays. Yeah. Okay. >> In the meantime. >> Yeah. Until you have a successor you're going to stay vice mayor. >> Okay. So I have a few um comment here. So because as far as I understand unless
I'm wrong the charter say the charter is not a suggestion box right it's a rule book or charter. >> It's your constitution. >> Correct. So the lang what the language regarding the timeline is mandatory and it reads it doesn't say um that
the mayor shall nominate whenever she is available it states at the first regular commission meeting in the months of November the mayor shall nominate advice may right >> y >> okay so the word sh is a command not a
suggestion so if we defer we are actively choosing to violate the chart. >> You're not deferring. >> I'm sorry. >> You're not deferring. >> We are We are Today we are going to be uh choosing somebody. >> You're going to vote. Either it's going
to show up as a tie or it's going to be defeated or it's going to be granted. There's three options. >> Okay. Just like for example the budget, right? We have to have the budget to certain date. So today we need to vote and the uh commission has to approve
who's going to be the vice mayor. >> No. >> How does it work then? >> The mayor nominates someone. >> Correct. >> You either say yes or you say no. If it's a no, she has to nominate again or until you all select a vice mayor. >> But now the mayor is not here.
>> Well, we have an acting mayor. >> So we have an acting mayor. >> Yes. No. >> So it would be up to Alex to now name. That's not how it works. You have a mayor. He's the presiding chair because he's acting as vice mayor because the mayor is not here. The mayor gets to
select. >> Okay. >> These vice men are acting as mayor. >> I have a question about that also because the mayor is not a person. It's an office. So if that office right now is currently occupied by the mayor because section chapter 22B says in the
absence of the mayor, the vice mayor assumes all powers and duties. Therefore, the office of the mayor right now, it is occupied by the vice mayor. So, we do have an acting vice mayor. The mayor is not even in the in the country or the continent. She is she decided not
to be here getting another another free ride freebie. Uh are we paying for that trip to Israel by the way, Mr. uh city manager? >> Okay. >> You know, she's not here. So you don't realistic to the >> well hopefully we are not paying for
whatever trip right now she's doing to promote herself and get money and get votes or whatever considering that she's right now in campaign mode. So we do have a mayor acting mayor which can nominate a vice mayor and we can vote and that way we
are not violating our constitution our charter and we will >> city attorney can stick to my interpretation. And you can all agree or disagree, okay? But the mayor is the mayor. She gets to nominate who the vice mayor is. You can agree or you can disagree.
>> I believe that Alex would choose and then we go around and around and around until we >> think >> come to a decision and if not then >> this is this >> well >> this is going to be table to January. I mean it already it can
>> yeah it can just he just stated >> no our charter says that we have to nominate a vice mayor in the first meeting in November. >> So right now otherwise we're going to be violating our own charter by doing this.
>> The vi the vice mayor has been nominated. So the nomination has occurred and you all need to take a vote >> and we have a tie >> which we did. Okay. So a tie. So now you first of all there was a motion. We haven't gone for a second.
>> You have the option not having a second. >> There was there was no second >> like we did the last time. You had a two two situation. If you want to second it, you have to pass the gavl. Second it. If you want to vote on, >> right, >> but it failed. The motion failed. Then ties are different.
>> There's no there's no vote. You have to >> You can nominate somebody else. That's the thing. >> No, you cannot nominate it. >> Give me the G. >> Okay. So I got to I got to I got to I got to repeat and then tonight you all can do what you want. Okay. Hold the charter clear. >> I have a very specific question. So
again the mayor is an office not a person and right now that office is being occupied by vice mayor Lama >> who is currently the mayor. >> So exactly. So >> he's not currently the mayor. He's the presider. is >> well according to again I'm going to
read I'm going to read the charity said the vice mayor assumed all powers and duties all therefore the office of the mayor right now it is occupied and Alan with all due respect you are the city attorney not the mayor's attorney so the mayor is >> Hold on hold on hold on
>> I'm the parliamentarian as well as the city attorney interpreting your code I'm not acting on anyone's behalf I'm reading the code and interpreting the code for you can choose to follow my recommendation or you and do what you want, but all that's all I can do as your parliamentarian and city attorney.
>> So the suggestion is that we should be violating the code because the code say specifically we have to >> Well, that's your interpretation. He's saying that we're not violating the code. That's my interpretation. >> Okay. So at this point there's no second.
Okay. So what happens in this instance? >> The motion fails. >> Okay. And it gets tabled to January. >> Is that it has it has to come back. You have to have >> It has to come back because we need to have a vice mayor. >> You remain the vice mayor >> and I remain the vice mayor for another
month and a half, whatever. >> No, excuse me. Once again, if we cannot rewrite the code by we passing it to January, we are rewriting the code. We are stripping the November word to January. And if she doesn't want to be here in January because she got another
freebie uh trip to whatever to Israel, then we have to pass it to February. And then it happened all over again. Again, the the that the code, the charter, the constitution is not a suggestion. It's a rule book and it says very clear what we
have to do and when. >> Commissioner, you're unable. >> No, no, one second, please. So, the same thing will happen if we don't want to be here for the budget. What is it? We're going to defund and we are not going to have a budget because we decide not to present oursel here in September. No, it's the same thing. We cannot rewrite
the code. The code says that we have to have it in November. We are you are deciding we are deciding by doing this that we are going to be stripping the November war and change it to for whenever the mayor decides to be present. So I
think like you said the code is extremely clear. It's not a suggestion. It's gonna be in November. We have an acting mayor. Do we need a motion then to nominate somebody else? >> Nope. You can't. >> Because the mayor nominated thing is you're not you're not changing the code
to from November to any other date. It's because you all can't make a decision today. That's why it's moving. >> Because there's been a nomination and nominated. >> That's your interpretation and it's a very wrong interpretation. >> Vice Mayor for tonight. >> Hold on. Hold on. Time out. Hold on.
Order in the deas please. So I am going with the interpretation of our city attorney >> which is incorrect. >> This will be I'm going with the interpretation of the city attorney. That's your opinion if it's incorrect or not. And we're going to bring this uh
item back on in January. >> Well, I'm actually gonna make an ethics complaint because I'm not going to be part of breaking our rules in our code. Alice, what are you scared of? You know, >> I'm not scared. I'm not scared. I'm just No, I'm not scared.
>> Clearly, you are because >> So, you're not assuming your role. >> You You are rewriting the code because he said B. >> I'm going with the with with the city attorney's interpretation of this, >> which is incorrect. >> We're going to bring it back in January and we have a vote. It's a month and a
half away from >> I'm going to make a motion. I'm nominating myself as a vice mayor. You can make that motion, but the the the the >> the mayor needs to nominate. >> No, that's Well, that's an interpretation that you said and interpretation goes wrong all the time. So, I'm making a motion now.
>> Okay. >> Okay. Do we have a a second? >> I'll I'll second it. >> No, you guys have to vote for it. >> Yes or no? >> No, because you cannot you cannot nominate yourself. Can can you nominate yourself? No. So, that's a mute. >> Okay. So, I will nominate >> I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
>> In the absence of the vice mayor who's acting as the mayor um not assuming his role, I will nominate Fabola Styverson as vice mayor. >> Okay. Okay. Listen, we need to put order here in the deas,
please. Okay. You can have order, but you're not assuming your >> Well, regardless, you're not I mean, you you have two of us that are going with the interpretation of the city attorney and regardless of whatever motions you want to put forth, which are not valid
by >> Okay. are not valid. You're going to have a tie and it's going to go to January. So, I don't know why we're here arguing when it's going to go to January regardless. I I I'm going to ask a point of information for the code to be uh
read by the city attorney and I welcome you to read and to listen to what specifically the code and the charter says. >> Mr. City attorney can read right now and if you need a recess to read it that is my recommendation because we are
breaking the code. >> Commissioner let let him read the the the code please. Vice Mayor during the absence of or incapacity of the mayor the vice mayor shall have all the powers authority please slow mayor
vice mayor during the absence of or incapacity of the mayor the vice mayor shall have all the powers authority duties and responsibilities of the mayor at the first commission meeting after the 30th following 30th day following
the day of the general or runoff election of the city commission or in any calendar year in which there is no regular city election. At the first commission meeting in the month of November of such year, the mayor shall nominate a vice mayor or one from one of
the four residential area commissioners subject to commission approval. >> Okay. So that's quite clear. >> Is not a suggestion. It is a mandate that we are choosing to not do the job.
>> And in the absence of the mayor, the vice mayor becomes mayor. >> But you have a nomination from the mayor. >> You have a nomination from the mayor. I'm the presiding officer right now. >> Okay. >> And that and that nomination >> I don't nominate. It says the mayor shall nominate, not the notice. Only
>> the mayor. Vice mayor. You are the mayor right now. >> I'm the presiding officer right now. No, you are the mayor. >> In any nowhere it says presiding officer there. It says you assume all the powers, all the duties and by reading the paper whatever the memo says or
whoever this is that she was the same thing that remote voting. She's not even here the phone to to to set. >> Hold on, Fabiola. Regardless, regardless if you put a motion on the table, it's going to be >> it's going to it's not going to go through and we're going to end up
>> bringing it in January. Okay. No, you cannot nominate yourself. >> No, it's your place. >> I'm going to We need to bring it back in January. We're going to move ahead as mayor January. >> You're sitting in the place of the mayor tonight. >> Okay.
>> That's it. We're We're We're We're No, >> the mayor is not a person. That's the thing you don't want to. It's an office. Is an office. It's not a person. >> Well, I'm going with the I'm going with the interpretation of our city attorney. >> Helen's interpretation is incorrect.
>> Well, that's your opinion, but >> just heard it. We just heard it word for word that you are the sitting mayor for this evening. >> Okay. So, >> you are nominating basically yourself as a vice mayor by you are assuming that
default. But anyway, Okay, hold on. Stop it now. >> May I speak? >> Cuz I'm I'm not going to continue with this back and forth argument and screaming of it each other. Okay, so >> there hasn't been any screaming. >> Well, >> whatever. Okay, >> go ahead.
>> Where do we stand? So, I made a motion. There was no second. >> So, that motion failed since there was no second. >> Okay. And procedurally that means according to the city attorney's interpretation that it comes back in January, right? Or it would it be
clearer if he gives me the gavl and then we take a vote and then it's a tie >> and it's going to come back in January. >> So which which makes it procedurally clearer? >> It's up to you all. >> Up to you all as to what you want >> between those two options. City
attorney, is there a clearer path or they >> make it a tie in that way? >> We Okay. So, I made a motion. There was no second, but you can give me the gavl and you can second and then we
can vote and then it's a tie and then it's clear. >> What's the difference? >> The difference is that it's clearer procedurally uh and and then we move on. The the selection of device measure is a chartermandated function just like the budget. It's a
charter mandated and you have a date when you have to do it. We follow the b the budget calendar because the law says we have to and you are choosing not to follow the vice mayor calendar. >> Alex, it's your duty to choose another
person. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I made a motion. They didn't second. >> Okay. I second. >> You gave me the gabble. You second. I second. >> And now we vote. >> Okay. So, we know we have two nos,
right? I say yes. >> Let's make the the record clear. Commissioner, so we'll just take a roll call. >> Commissioner Joseph, >> no. >> Commissioner Cyber, >> no. >> Commissioner Mscar,
>> yes. >> Uh, Vice May Lama, >> yes. >> It's a two two tie, so the status quo remains. >> So, now the mayor gets to choose another person. Okay. >> Or she can nominate the same person again. It's it's it's going to be
>> No, the mayor is not >> Keep talking about Alex >> tonight. The mayor is Llama tonight. >> We're not going to keep our I'm not going to keep arguing. I I've stayed in my position. >> Yeah. >> Nine. You >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I'm I'm making I make a motion. I make a motion nominating myself as the vice. >> No, you can't do that.
>> Yes, I can. >> Okay. Let's Okay. >> And let's vote on it. >> I think this side we we have a procedure. If >> if >> Commissioner Llama sitting is m >> you already voted on this item. Next item, please.
>> I have a motion on his role. >> The motion didn't pass. I have a motion. >> And it goes to seat number one. >> Okay. >> Seat number one. I nominate >> Thank you. Okay. >> Styver. >> So he's nominating me. So I I'm I'm seconded. Now you guys procedurally I
want it on the record how you guys are going to vote as well. There is no vote on an invalid motion. >> Yeah. >> Are we out of time? You're going to make it just because you choose to. Is our constitutional. You can't make it valid just because you say it. >> Correct. Well, it is in the charter. >> Well, if the mayor refuses to act, I'm
going to end this meeting at this end when Oh, for that you do have the power. You decide to have what power you're going to get. >> I'm not the presiding officer right now. >> Oh, yeah. Well, actually, you're the acting vice mayor. >> Okay. >> Either if you want it or not. >> All right. Item 9.
Item 9U is a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign or renew all required contracts, agreements, and purchase orders during the recess period from the last commission meeting in November 2025 through the first regular city commission meeting in January 2026.
>> Okay. Any comments? Any public speaker? >> No, sir. Okay. I get a motion. Some moved. >> Second. All in favor? >> I I Okay.
>> So, there are no speakers for the citizens forum. No further business to come for the commission. >> Okay. Um All right. Meeting adjourned. I just wanted to mention a couple of things. Uh today is Give Miami Day. So, please, if you can, you have until
midnight. There's over 1,300 nonprofit organizations that you could donate to. Go to givemiday.org or and you could choose by cause that you support by area etc. So you could go there and then also
this being the last meeting of the year just wanted to wish everybody a happy holidays and also a prosperous and healthy 2026. So thank you very much.