ative center mission meeting room one spring street New Jersey. Can I have roll call? Director Carney here. Deputy direct uh deputy director space is absent. Commissioner Degroup here. Commissioner Hayden is absent. Commissioner Henderson
here. All right. Uh, number three is moment of silence and a salute to the flag. Uh, today's moment of silence for the victims of September 11th tragedy 24 years ago. Uh, we will never forget them. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Pursuant to open public meetings act chapter 231 PL1975 adequate notice as
defined by section 3D chapter 231 PL/1975 has been made by regular mail in email. Such notice being submitted on January 7th, 2025 for the administrative center of the county of Sussex located at one spring street, Newton, New Jersey to the following New Jersey Herald, Star
Ledger, Strauss News is also being posted in the bulletin board maintaining administrative center for public announcements and has been submitted to the Sussex County Clerk in compliance with said act. This time, please mute all electronics. Commissioners, please remove your phone.
All right. Um, number five, approval agenda. We have one amendment to tonight's meeting. Item 17A will be tabled to the next meeting. Uh, that's just due due to uh we need a super majority. Correct. Uh, we need a quorum and commissioner degree would have to abstain. So, we
don't have a quorum to approve. Understood. Okay. Uh, motion to approve the agenda as amended. Commissioner Henderson, I have a second. Second. Commissioner Groot. I think that's going to be easy tonight. Any discussion? All in favor say I.
I. Oppose. Abstain. Carries. Number six. Proclamation, certificates, presentations. We have one. And Lorraine Hence is going to present us. Absolutely. With her findings from her little trip to where'd you go? Chicago. Was it?
Well, that I was in Baltimore. Baltimore. Baltimore. So, I had the privilege in August to go to the home and community based services conference and it was really nice to talk to people [Music] with all of the changes that are going
on and hearing what their input is and I apologize just approach the board. Talk to me. So, it was really nice to see the positive energy that they were feeling coming out of this administration and the realization that inevitable and that
we've been going through change since 1912 and that will continue to do that. However, there's still that priority in caring for our aging and disabled population. So, one thing I want to talk about that I always talk about when um I
present that come 2030 we will have more individuals over the age of 65 than we have enrolled in schools. So, when you really look at our tax basis, what does that mean for our communities? How are we going to services and how are we
going to ensure their quality of life moving through senior services in Sussex County a positive contacts in their homes in our community. So it's nice to see on a local level that we're
following the direction coming from the federal government to the state to the county. One of the other avenues that they talked about that come 2040 people aed 65 and older are expected to represent approximately 22% of our
nation. So that impact on us nationally is really going to be a focus of where our population shifts and where our priority shifts. The key provider under the older Americans act
which just celebrated 60th birthday. The older America on aging and I just want to say that nationwide the older American staff provided 250 million meals 14.1 million
rides 23.8 million hours of personal care and homemaker services, 3.3 million hours of case management, 894,000 caregivers assistance um services,
7.1 million hours of respit care and 671 budsman consultation cases office institutional programs for nursing homes and we'll go in and investigate any issues.
So it's a key aspect of the foundation of providing services nationwide for seniors. We're looking at the past, present, and future. Currently, we function under the administration for community living.
What the Trump administration is recommending is having the administration community part of the administration for children, families and communities and the federal
government and the individuals that are in ACL really are commending that we will have a seat at the table. better for us because we will be able to break down those silos and how we provide services across the spectrum of aging and taking
care of your grandchildren. People that are in their 40s to 60s that are handling their parents and their kids is everybody having the same positive opportunity for us to
transition to And as I said, you know, we've been going through changes since 1912 where it was the children's bureau. In 1953, Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was established. In 1962, Welfare Administration
in 1979, Department of Public Education was 1953. In 1979, you Department of Health Education was renamed Department of Health and Human Services and Education Department and um now we're looking at
2025 2026 Department of Children, Families and Community Services. I always believe that leadership starts from the top and it's not just words, but it's actions. And Secretary Secretary Kennedy was secretary that
ever went out and was part of the older program in DC. He went out and served meals as part of the meals on wheels program and nutrition sites and heated to say history will judge humanity of our civilization by how we care for our
elderly. And having that secretary prioritize our aging programs and be the only one to actually show that investment on the ground concept was really inspiring to me and other people at the conference. We're talking
investments for state progress and funding going from 2003 to 2025 where we in 2003 was grants coming out that provided um services for the world
concept resources connections in 2012 became one of those grantees and every agency for us resource connection which allowed us to
provide services to individuals that are over 60 caregivers and 18 and older that have disabilities that need long-term services and supports and that in 2025 they will have new grants coming out for long initiatives
and then they're talking about the federal vision state governance how we all have to work together but this is a new opportunity working with hospitals, with CMS, with area agencies on a private nonprofit, um, church groups and communities,
veteran services, all coming together to provide those services. Um and that gives us a better opportunity for funding and sustain support in the future and big impacts of the big bill option under medic
to help states expand access to home and community for individuals with longterm needs without requiring So it's basically right now community services meals and they're on medicaid you have
to nursing home level. This is taking that nursing home level out of it and allowing people that need those services that finally qualify for them to get and keeping them in their home process. The other area is the
transforming rural health in America. Healthare transformation program will be a grant based initiative that authoriz that empowers states to strengthen rural communities across improving healthare access
by transforming the healthare delivery ecosystem. It will be grants by the federal government to really talk about initiatives of how we provide health care systemically that you don't have to go to a hospital you don't have to go to a doctor. talking about tele health and
those options are really really rural areas that don't have a hospital within 20 minutes that you have to drive an hour to get to a hospital. How are we going to provide those services and providing access
and be more proactive? And then the other really good aspect of the bill was expanding the access to catastrophic health insurance for Americans facing financial hardships offering low that protects against serious medical
econ personal responsibility and marketable options without taxpayer burden through healthcare.gov exemption form that will be available as that financial hardship are going
through a catastrophic health illness and have access to insurance and access to another talking about how we can market the dollars we have to bring in additional dollars and putting ourselves in the right place to enhance access to funding
to provide services. So, Sussex County has been doing that with doing the federal financial partnership that Medicaid services for every dollar from the county funds we can fun And we've been doing that
since 2016, which is really good. Social worker, allow us to hire a recreational uh leader and is us that change isn't a bad thing, that it is positive, it provides opportunities
and the ability to strengthen what we do and that by doing it together we are better from it. It was really good to hear from people that are at the federal government implementing these changes
very much. Yeah. So that was a lot. I know. And I know I like your idea. Yeah. you get the crayons out for me. Um, so you feel that what you learned there, we are not going to get we're not
going to get see the cuts as much as we're going to see the benefits and things are just getting rearranged with allocations of of money. Absolutely. And what I can say is the funding that we're receiving for aging services um has either stayed steady or
has increased that they're talking about additional funding coming through the state or through the federal government um and that there are opportunities for additional funding coming. Is this something that we would be able to put out to the public through the county or wait until that happens?
How is anybody going to know about this besides if you come to this meeting or listen to our audio or video? It will be through our office and you'll see the enhanced program. Okay. So, we talk about it at every town. We have tables at every presentation and program
Sussex County Day maybe. I know that's soon, but yeah. Well, and we always do. So, you see it through the enhanced services that we've done, all of the veterans programs that we've been able to do. Um, when I got here, we were just doing the parade. Now, we're doing the the picnic. We have
partnerships with Catholic families to information here at our office where people can meet at our office. We're doing the veterans appreciation lunch and um we're meeting locally with different agencies to provide services. So that
just that's one example. Um enhancing recreation socialization programs to combat depression. That's a whole activity of programs that we've been doing. When Jack came up with doing here you need to do a seed program, we were able to go boots on the ground and be able to do that. When you We want to do
a support group. Having that those funings and that opportunity, we've been able to implement it through these changes. Great. Seems like you learned a lot. It was really good. Well, thank you for your time. Sorry. All right. Number seven, executive
session. We do not have executive session for tonight. Number eight is a public hearing. Uh there is none. Number nine, public session from the floor. This public session is for those wishing to make a comment of three minutes or less regarding an agenda item. Please unoffer the microphone, state your name,
municipality, and topic for the record. Motion to open the floor for public comment. Commissioner Henderson, I have a second. Second. Commissioner Groot. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I oppose. Stain carries. The floor is open for agenda topics only.
evening and real quick item. Great idea just encourage you all to authorize the creation commission. I mean that's a great thing for community
but the main thing is if I could ask you guys what is anyone else come up state your name and your miss I believe the comments I have tie in with the agenda items and this
particular issue I'd like to talk about is on mental health. Is that correct? What agenda topic are you referring to? Well, I'm on your
and D in your resolutions on page three. It has to do with juvenile detention alternatives and the following was public health emergency preparedness. Sounds good to me.
I'd like to talk about mental health if that's okay. Yes, sir. Okay. Please tell me I'm addressing mental illness now in the county.
I was on the mental health board in 1989 count that's 36 years long time ago. Okay. The freeholders known then as freeholders had taken $500,000
from the mental health budget and spend it on purchasing Donbos College, which is now the county college. No criticism of that at all, but it was
done on the promise that $500,000 would go back to the mental health board the following year. Ernie Kosa, who some of you I remember was the man who was responsible for implementing this as the mental
health coordinator for the county. We never saw a nickel after it. One minute. Never saw a nickel after. Okay. In 2003, a little later in history, uh
we had an uproar about mental health issues. And uh the freeholder board at that time spent $30,000 on a needs assessment. Zero happened. Okay. 20 more years went
by. On and off, on and off, on and off. Sometimes trying a program but not really doing anything significant by my standard. Uh now we have violence
involved in mental illness and mental health across the country and we hear a lot of media information about that. Thank God it hasn't hit us on a violence
basis here in Sussex County. time. Mr. S, just Mr. One second, please. One second. Because we use some of your time. I just want to give you about 30 seconds back. That's all right. When you asked the question, we took some of your time, so I want to give you it back. I'm having a little trouble hearing. I'm
sorry. Keep going. Okay. So, I'm suggesting that a new approach might be appropriate. Okay. And what I'm saying is I'm asking you five
folks who have been elected by us. Um, have any of you eyeball to eyeball talked with any psychiatrist recently either at Newton Hospital or
independently in connection with any kind of a problem that has been initiated? Have you talked to the sheriff specifically about mental health issues and other police chiefs. Have you talked
to first responders individually headtohead? Not that you assigned it to somebody on your staff. You personally is what I'm talking about. How about public park managers?
Have any of you talked to a man who or a woman who manages public parks? Mr. Sabbo, Mr. Mr. Sabbo, I I do have to cut you off now. I gave you a little extra time. You could come back up at our next next public comment and continue.
Be certainly appropriate to talk with and then perhaps you'd be willing to fund mental health in the county. Thank you. I'm sorry. Okay, we can come back up at our next public comment.
Is there anyone else agenda topics from what agenda topic sir? mental health very serious problemable people don't see it so much county but in the
future it should be there's probably not too many things that are more important the agenda I was going to talk about this this issue is very important for us to decide in the future especially with our young people have no
proper direction. They're not so bad. That's why there's so much home. But kids, if you're homeschooled, you need to be out with other kids, you know, when you're growing up. Like you had
your fights and stuff, you learn how to mix in and get along, you know, especially with sports. Sports is a good thing. Had it in high school. They they stopped it. Now you get any kind of excuse to get out of sports. And another problem
is we got enough problem with alcohol. And what's going on with all these marijuana places all over it's a disgusting thing to me and I know veterans and cancer people that are on medical marijuana and it does wonders
for them. But uh I don't agree with Willie Nelson. I mean he's a a country singer. He can smoke all he wants and make songs. It's fine. I like them. But to uh say that it's good for everybody and
there's nothing wrong with it, it's it's not a good thing. So that's all I have to say. Focuses on the mental health whether it's marijuana, alcohol, one minute.
[Applause] Anyone else? Okay. Uh, motion to close the floor for public comment. So moved. Commissioner Henderson seconds. Any discussion? All in favor say I. I. I.
Those abstaining carries. Number 10. Commissioner comments. There's not many of us today. We'll start with Commissioner Anderson. Okay. On October 24th, I attended the Hamburg Day celebration. On August 26th, I attended the Sussex County League of Municipality event. I'd like to
congratulate Tammy Horsefield, who is the new chair of that committee. On August 27th, I attended the Hardeston Township meeting as their liaison. August 28th, and just kind of keep all these dates in mind. It's kind of going to lead to where I'm taking you at the end. On August 28th, I attended the Susc
open space meeting where there's a lot of discussion regarding the open space funding and future grants and the process for municipalities to apply. Once it's finalized, it will come before this board for a final vote. On Friday the 29th, I attended uh a meeting here.
Afterwards, Commissioner Space and I and our administrator took a walk down Spring Street to Market Street Mission where they explained what they do for the people in need. It's strictly only for men. I will tell you it is a class act organization there, but it's only
for men. Uh September 4th, I along with Commissioner Space uh were here for another meeting. We went across the street. We walked through the green. We walked down Spring Street. And we also went to the gathering place right up here next to Cornwell Clock. Uh they invited us back to one of their meetings
to go back and see what they're actually doing for the people that are coming there uh and what they do. So, Commissioner Space and I are going back and I'm going to throw Commissioner Carney in this as well. I know he walked the park as well up there uh to kind of get a handle on what's going on in the
park. Uh, as I say, we can consider oursel very lucky or if we have a family member or friend that don't need these services for whatever reason, less fortunate do. I've taken the time to research the available services here in Sussex County. I encourage all of you to
visit our county website to see how many things are available for anybody in need in this county if they opt to go there to get help. I would I, as I say, I've never looked at it myself. I looked at it the other day. It's incredible the amount of services we offer right here in Sussex County. On September 6, I
attended Hardston Day and Vernon Day. On September 8th, I attended Vernon Township meeting as their leaison. On September 9th, I attended the Sussex County Chamber, which I always tell you if you're a business, you should join. It's great opportunity for your business.
And I'm going to just say that all sounds great. We attend a lot of functions, but I just like to say all these events are a small fraction of what we do sitting here as commissioners. We've made the commitment to the residents of Sussex County. There's not a day where I or any of my
fellow commissioners personally don't spend several hours at various meetings answering phone calls, emails, researching information, or some type of issue. When I decided to put my name on that ballot, I sat next to Commissioner Carney when we decided to run together and he said to me, and I am going to
quote to quote him, "It seems like I put in 40 hours a week here dealing with county issues." Commissioner Carney, no truer words were spoken. I want you to know as residents that not only myself, but all these people to my right are giving a 100% of their time for what's
best here in Sussex County. Thank you. [Applause] First off, thank you, Alan. Appreciate that. Good evening, everyone. Uh, I'd like to begin by extending a heartfelt welcome back to school to all the
educators and students here tonight and across Sussex County. As someone who has also returned to the classroom last week, teaching, not as a student, uh, both at NGIT and Ruckers, I just want to express my sincere appreciation for the incredible work our teachers do each day. I'm praying for a healthy, productive, and successful school year
for you all. Uh staying on the topic of education, I'm excited to share a major milestone that I've been working on with Sussex County Community College. As I previously mentioned to the uh board of commissioners to my left and right, uh on May 23rd, 2024, I had entered
discussions with Checkpoint, a global leader in cyber security through its secure academy program. Checkpoint partners with colleges and universities to offer a hands-on curriculum designed to prepare students for careers in this high demand field, including potential opportunities with Checkpoint itself. Importantly, this program comes at no
cost to the college or the county. After more than a year of collaboration, faculty and administrative approvals, and thoughtful planning, I'm proud to announce that Checkpoints curriculum officially launched into SECCC's cyber security program this current fall 2025
semester. Uh this is tremendous win for SEC students. I want to thank both Sussex County Community College and Checkpoint for their dedication to student success. This is exactly the type of forward-thinking partnership that prepares our students not just for jobs but long-term careers in a critical
industry. Uh next, I'd like to highlight an exciting initiative from the Division of Senior Services, uh the County Seed Library. From the very beginning, my vision for the seed library was to make it more than just a place to access seeds. Uh, it's about promoting sustainability, providing education, building community, and honoring Sussex
County's rich agricultural heritage. After a successful spring launch of our seed starting classes, we're now expanding the program this fall with our first ever series of seed saving workshops in partnership with Sussex County Ruckers, Master Gardeners, and the Division of Senior Services. These
workshops will uh teach participants how to properly collect, store, and save seeds from vegetables, herbs, and flowers. We currently have two scheduled workshops. Uh September 18th at 12 p.m. Hop on Senior Center and September 24th at 1:30 p.m. Liberty Towers right here
in Newton. To register, please contact the Division of Senior Services at 973-5790555 extension 1225. Additionally, our division of senior services invites veterans of all ages to attend veteran peer support group held on the fourth Wednesday of every month
from 6 pm to 7 p.m. on the first floor of the Sussex County Administrative Center in Newton. This support group offers a valuable space for camaraderie connection along with the opportunity to learn about available programs and services for Sussex County veterans. Next session will take place on
September 25th, 2025. To register or learn more, please call 973-579-0555 extension 11135. Uh now with Sussex County Library System Tech topics workshops. Uh building on the success of its digital learn grant program, the Sussex County Library
System is launching a new series of technology workshops this fall called Tech Topics. Uh here you can learn digital skills in a relaxed hands-on setting. This workshop offers 30 minutes of instructions on tools like Gmail, Microsoft Word, and Google Docs, followed by 30 minutes of Q&A with a
librarian. Workshops are free and open to all, but space is limited. Sessions are happening this fall at the main library in Frankfurt and Sussex Wantage branch. You can register now um by visiting sussex county library.org or uh signing up at the local branch. Uh besides this, since our last meeting, I
had the opportunity to attend a joint meeting with Commissioner Space or County Administrator, uh clerk of the board, director of social services, and director of human services. Uh we met with officials from the town of Newton, the Newton Police Department, and representatives from the governor's office, specifically uh Department of
Community Affairs, DCA, to discuss collaborative efforts between our agencies and local nonprofits in addressing the situation at the green. The county remains fully committed to working with our partners to develop a sustainable and effective solution. Additionally, uh between my time at the farm and teaching, I had a chance uh to
visit the prosecutor's office, uh I was able to see firsthand some of the concerns that have been raised in previous meetings. It was also incredibly valuable to speak with the staff and gain insight into their daily operations. I'd like to thank everyone who helped facilitate the visit. Commissioner Henderson, I appreciate it.
Um and I just appreciate everyone's time and effort. Uh community highlights. Since our last meeting, I had the pleasure of attending several well some local events including Hamburg Day and Hardison's Festival's uh night fireworks. Uh really terrific display. If you ever get a chance, go next year.
Um really enjoyed my time in the county and uh that's all I have to report. Thank you and God bless. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you for the reminder. Um, Sussexus County Local Safety Action Plan. The Sussex County Local Safety Action Plan has been finalized and consideration for
adoption is included on today's commissioner's agenda. The plan will assist the county in prioritizing safety improvements along Sussex County roads with the intention of reducing fatal and serious injury crashes. Plan's future goal is to operate a transportation system with zero serious injuries and fatalities. Once adopted, the plan will
be considered by the capital projects team when evaluating allocation of resource resources helping direct a prioritize focus on safety improvements along Sussex County roads. After adoption, the plan will be posted to the Sussex County website. A local implementation committee will be will
periodically review the plan objectives, systematic data, and recommend recommended safety strategies as well as evaluate results of implementing strategies. The implementation committee will provide recommendations for future plan updates. The safety of the county roads remains a high priority of this
board. The Department of Engineering and Planning is available to discuss anything if you have any questions or concerns and they can be reached at 973-5790430 or by email dpw@sussex.nj. us. Uh 25 resurfacing program. The 25 Sussex County resurfacing program is
currently advertised with bids due on September 16th. The program will replace the ashaltw wearing surface along approximately 23 miles of county roads. Uh work will include milling, paving, striping, ADA upgrades along portions of the county routes 521, 517, 653, 616,
and 609 in Andover, Frankfurt, Green, Hampton, Apachon, Newton, Monu, and Sparta Townships. Most work will be conducted under a single lane closure. Traffic will be maintained through the work zone using flagger controlled alternate traffic and construction is
expected beginning the fall this year. A winter shutdown is expected with construction resuming in the spring of 26 and the project represents a significant investment in maintenance and continued safe operation of the Sussex County Transportation Network. Project updates will be posted on the
Sussex County website. Um, still with planning, I went I met with planning I believe it was yesterday we went to Christy autumn yesterday. So, for a while we've been understaffed. We've been understaffed a lot in the county, but especially in planning. And I know Jack is hot and heavy with
farmland preservation, and I know he couldn't get some things done due to uh under staffing. So, finally, since I'll read Autumn's uh her notes here, she runs planning. Um I'll just read what she has here. Thanks to the commissioner's commitment, staffing
levels in the division of planning have been restored to their strongest point since 2012. With this renewed capacity, the division will be able to meet current demands, advance uh important county initiatives and address backlogs that had accumented during the years of reduced staffing. So, it was very good
news. Uh especially with our farmland preservation or open space and whatnot. We also talked about I talked a little bit about Jack, but I don't think you you got to note on um uh using drones if we have to, you know, all the farms that we have preserved in Sussex, they need
to be inspected once a year. It costs a lot of money. It's a lot of time and effort. So, we were just going over some ideas what using drones um recording uh obviously and taking pictures or whatnot. So, moving forward, I think it would be a good idea uh and save the taxpayer to be honest with you. So, good
good news there. Uh little district 24 county colleges. Good news and some bad news. Uh thanks to our strong advoc adv advocacy and advocacy of residents from the Sussex count from Sussex County and around the state, the governor's proposed $20 million cut to community college operating aid was ultimately
reversed in a final state budget. This is good news for students, parents, and communities that rely on the high quality affordable education of our community college colleges provide. This cut would have cost Sussex County $600,000 in their budget. Unfortunately, the budget signed by the governor
approved by the Democratic legislature majority includes an 18% cut to the community college opportunity grant. According to the nonpartisan office of legislative services, the program will now be limited to newly eligible students from households earning less than $65,000 per year. As a result, an
estimated 6,000 lower and middle inome students will be negatively affected by this change. That's what we got from them. Um, on another hand, I think you forgot vote, didn't you? I did. You forgot it. I did. All right. So, you did my homework. Usually, everybody gets all the glory
and I I don't go anywhere. But we, uh, myself, uh, Commissioner Space, and and Commissioner Henderson went to the Votech, um, grand opening of their new facility where the pool used to be. Um, they have a couple, um, new shops, which they're they're pretty happy about. They
got $6 million in grants uh to to to new desks, new machinery, and so on and so forth. So, that was that was nice. We went there last week. I also attended Branchville Day last Saturday. It was the first time they ever had it. First time ever, even though they called it first annual. Um so, that that was
always good. We had a bunch of Sussex County um services there as well. Was it this morning? Today's Wednesday. Yeah, this morning I testified uh before the public health accreditation board. So basically what that was is this board um
if we can get our health department can get accredited that basically it says we're doing a good job. Um it it gives them basically a big hug of kudos uh if you will and that's what we did this morning for a good hour and a half. I think it was a good show. I know
basically everybody up here was was there. Uh it's important you know no one asked for a pat in the back. No one really gets a pat in the back when you work for the county except maybe for the commissioners once in a while we we'll say you're doing a good job, but being accredited and hopefully we get that answer soon would be a it would be a
nice nice gesture for sure. Um, as Commissioner Henderson said, I did walk through the park last week trying to figure out what's what we can do to help uh in the green. I know it's, you know, people think we could just put homeless
people in uh in our building, in our jail, and you know, that's it's free and it's just not free. But there was uh I spoke to two two people, one one 22-y old woman and maybe a 60-y old man and kind of went through some stuff and we talked about what we can do and you
know, we are working on it. They're not forgotten. We're doing our best and there's meetings that were one was supposed to happen on Monday which got cancelled. So, between Ron and everybody else and in the town of Newton, um, you know, we're doing what we can and they're not forgotten. And I think there was a a comment here maybe a month
or two ago that, you know, we don't listen to our constituents. Well, that's not true. We we listen to our constituents no matter if they're homeless or not. Um, and then just one more thing on on, you know, it kind of brought up and it happened about two hours ago and I just
want to, you know, there's two gentlemen that spoke about mental um, unstable people and you're right 100%. Both sides of the aisle, right? There's a lot of crazies out there, more so than I remember. You know, a lot of that too, right?
Yeah. So my thoughts and prayers with Charlie Kirk, his wife, his two children, political violence of all kinds is in front of us and our freedom to express our views safely and without fear of violence.
It shouldn't be like that. You know, we owe it to ourselves and our children in our country to do better. And that goes for both sides of the aisle. You shouldn't have to fear anything because your views and we shouldn't have to fear up here that something's going to happen when we leave because we read something that you guys didn't like or not you
guys but in general it's wrong. It shouldn't happen and our thoughts are with his family and hopefully that doesn't happen anymore. That's all I have. Can I just go on one thing yours? [Applause]
I just want to say if you have the opportunity to go to the county college website and I thought maybe Commissioner Droot would bring it up. They've received a lot of grants and have done a lot of improvements and huge grants for ventilation systems, air conditionings. If you get a chance, make sure you visit
their website. It's a great spot to find out what's going on at the college. That's all I have. Perfect. All right. Number 11, approve of the consent agenda. We have none. Number 12, approval minutes. This is from the regular meetings from August 20th, 2025. Motion to approve the minutes from the meetings from the
meeting. So move. Commissioner Degrroot have got a second. Second. Commissioner Henderson. All in favor say I. I. Oppos. Carries. Number 13th. Ordinance. We have no ordinance. 14th. Appointments and or resignations. There are none. Uh 15's
resolutions. All right. Can I get a motion to adopt resolutions A? So moved. Commissioner Drew, I have a second. Second. Commissioner Henderson. Any discussion? All right. Roll call, please. Director Carney, yes.
Deputy Director Space is absent. Commissioner uh Degroup. Yes. Commissioner Hayden is absent. Commissioner Henderson. Yes. All right. 16. Awards of contract change orders bids. Now, the board of county commissioners of the county of Sussex has reviewed the award of contract
change orders with consisting of various proposed resolutions and determined that the adoption of the said resolutions is and will further the public interest. Motion to adopt resolutions A through C. So moved. Commissioner Henderson, I have a second. Second. Commissioner Drew. Any discussion?
All right. Roll call, please. Director Carney. Yes. Deputy Director Space is absent. Commissioner Degrroot? Yes. Commissioner Hayden is absent. Commissioner Henderson, yes. All right. 17 is tabled 17A only.
17A. Okay. I'm sorry. Yes. So 17B uh is the payment of list is a payment of bills list B from September 10th, 2025. Motion to pay bills list B. So moved. Commissioner Henderson, I have a second. Second. Commissioner Groot. Any any discussion? Roll call, please.
Director Carney, yes. Deputy Director Space is absent. Commissioner Degrroot? Yes. Commissioner Hayden is absent. Commissioner Henderson, yes. All right, number 18's personnel. We have one personnel agenda. This is from September 10th, 2025. Motion to approve
the personnel agenda. So moved. Commissioner Degrroo, have a second. Second. Commissioner Henderson. Any discussion? Roll call, please. Director Carney. Yes. Deputy Director Space is absent. Commissioner Degrroot? Yes. Yes. Commissioner Hayden is absent. Commissioner Henderson.
Yes. All right. Do we have to when when they're absent, you got to go through that whole thing? the roll. It's just better. Okay. I was just wondering. All right. 19. Uh the administrative report. Ryan, you are up. Thank you, sir. It's a pleasure to be
here. Uh I too along with Lorraine and Christine. Christina commissioner again want to comment that we we were in the public health accreditation accreditation meeting today with the and it was a very good process for us to give the overall benefit of what the
health department does for the county in in so many different varieties and how prepared they are. in case of emergency, how well they were interact with people. So, it was a pleasure to do that. That was a good that was a good setting. Uh, some bad news, the elevator, it's
really sick. We today we had our engineers and our our elevator people in today. We have a leak. It's it's dropping. We replaced the top seal thinking that they thought that might repair it. It didn't do any
difference. So that means the cylinder is completely leaking and or the bottom seal is shot. So what that means, we have to take out a 30 foot long, they call it a jack, I call it a great big hydraulic cylinder. Um I'm not an elevator guy, but it goes a long ways
down in the ground. And we got to take that out piece by piece by piece and reinstall a new one. We are looking at a minimum of six to eight weeks before that is accomplished. So, we are working
very diligently with the staff. Timing could not be any worse. We have Medicare applications starting here very soon. So, the place gets real busy. We're looking at alternative spots so that we can get people safely to the to get their applications done. Things that are
operations in here. We're looking at other opportunities and other places to react to. We'll we'll react and overcome and deal with this, but it's going to be an inconvenience. I'm sorry for that, but stuff breaks. Um
the budgets, all the budgets are in all the department heads. We've had all the budget submissions happened last week. Um Ela and Tony are now digit diligently putting the budget packages together and we'll be very quickly talking about the meetings.
Okay. Um I attended the risk management meeting today, the quarterly risk management meeting. Today we are doing very well. Our workers comp is very good. Our general liability, we had five instances in the quarter. That's car accidents, those types of things. Four
of those people hit us and one of them we backed into a poll. So, we're we're looking very good from a general liability perspective. And something I'm very proud that the county did today in support of the commissioners, we established a gold star parking spot this morning.
So that's all I got. Very good. And I'm glad I know about a year ago, maybe two years ago, uh we we were thinking about if the elevators ever went down that senior services would have that problem. So that was
Lorraine's idea. So thank you for that. Uh senior services used to be on the second floor. So it's a lot of steps to go up and down. So now if you you want to go to senior service or even come see us, you can go through the front door since we're going to be out six weeks or so. So thank you, Ron. All right, county
council. Nothing. All right. Uh number 21, unfinished business. I have unfinished business. Uh the last meeting we were here, we were provided a USB uh flash drive with photographs with
the county prosecutor's office. The other day I come over and sat with Christina here and we went through the photographs in there. I will thank the detective for providing them. I think it's an eyeopening for everybody. Commissioner Drew, I will commend you for going there to look at the conditions of their building. I've had
the time to read the appendix that was approved last meeting to be given out to everybody as well as the appraisal report on the jail. I'm going to use the term we because I have sat here for eight months as well. I feel we have a board have not done our due diligence in putting that jail on the market. I've
talked to professionals here, professionals outside of here, constituents, employees. I've spoken to a lot of people and no one can give me a solid reason why there should be a for sale sign on that jail. I've told you from the beginning I am a solid no vote.
Commissioner Droo has that passion for that seed program. I can tell you I have a passion for that jail. That is once in a-lifet opportunity this county has and I will not vote to sell that building. [Applause]
That was it. You have any unfinished? I do have new business. Do you guys have any business new business? I just got one thing. Last week it was my son's birthday. So we walked down the street. Me and my family walked down the street and my wife pointed out the park
and she saw that the statue was broken and then she also brought up that the benches that we have out there are I'm surprised people sit on they got to be honest with you they need some love. Um, so with the the backing of Commissioner Henderson and the group, if you guys are good, we can give
facilities when they have some free time, when Joe has some free time back there, um, to refurbish those benches, maybe put some new wood on them, at least power wash them, um, get them painted or stained and get them back up and maybe make the park look a little nicer. I mean, that's we need to put
some little little little more effort in there. So, if you guys are good with that, we'll give uh Ron the okay to work with facilities and they may have a free moment whenever that may be. I think it's a good idea. Get get that done. Make it a little more presentable. Got it. Awesome. Okay.
There's one other additional item for new business that came in this afternoon, which was the letter of of uh non-renewal for one of the members of the tech board. That's right. So we um we have three three six spots open.
We have six spots open uh for the vote. Three have to be Democrats. Three have to be Republicans. Right now the seat that is up is a Republican. If anybody's interested, this goes out to you guys. We're gonna, if you guys are good with it, I'd like to post it, Jack. And and
like to put advertise it out there, get some resumes in, and then we can go through the process. Uh, we have two months, Christina. Yes, two months. But if anybody out there is a Republican, wants a job, pays a lot, just saying. Um, and no aggravation,
none whatsoever. Um, send us your your resume and uh we'll look them over. I know the process for somebody sitting on the college board. How does that work here for did they get interviewed by us who interviews that group like for the I mean the school board
in the five years that I've been here we usually came to common ground and found somebody we haven't really repl in my first three years I don't think we replaced anybody it just actually kind of happened as vote kind of went a little downhill I'll say because I've said it in public um we replaced those people to make sure that they were up
and running the way it should be and I gota be honest with you I know Sussex County Colleges with that new board that's running smoothly I believe that Votech is heading in the same direction, but we can talk about that. Thoughts about replacing? Uh, there is. Yeah, it's it's based on um just the
commissioner's review. There is no selection committee. So, we might if we get a lot, we'll have to do executive session and kind of hash hash it out. Make sense? Works. Good. Good. Okay. All right. Uh 23. Public session from the floor. This
public session for those wishing to make uh general comments of three minutes or less on non-aggenda topics. Please line up at the microphone. State your name and municipality for the record. Motion to open the floor for public comment. So move. Commissioner D. Second. Commissioner Henderson. Any discussion?
All in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Abstain carries. The floor is open. Good evening. Ken Collins and Township on the eve of the anniversary of 911 attack on America by Saudi Arabians. I think it is prudent to pay closer
attention to things that we've been lied to about government officials. We were not attacked by Iraq or Afghanistan on 911. But Powell, Condisa Rice, and President George Bush had no problems lying to America and the world to justify attacking those sovereign
nations under the guise of a war on terror. Commissioner Hayden lied to many people claiming to be a veteran. And now he has been indicted and arraigned. Too foolish to bring an attorney with him to his first court appearance in this matter.
Hillbilly the Pig Hayden showed up for his arraignment wearing blue jeans and a polo shirt. Clearly communicating his lack of respect to the court. Commissioner Hayden has committed and perpetuated the lie that he is a veteran when he could have come clean with everyone at any time and put an end to
this three- ring circus. Commissioner Space lied to all of us when she let Bill Hayden ride into office on her coattails. Jill and Parker Space and the rest of Hayden's supporters are responsible for inviting this clown to service on the board of county commissioners. They invited this clown
in and the board of county commissioners became a clown circus as a result of their bad judgement. When Invite a clown in the whole board of commissioners becomes a clown circus. How can we trust that you're not just anointing and appointing yet another clown with Dave
Silver form? Are we supposed to trust you after this mess you got us into? We were lied to about the Sussex solar swindle scam, disaster, whatever you want to call governing so poorly that you cost your county over 26 million in
losses. We were lied to by Matthew Boxer who stood right here and he was paid by Sussex County to to us by whiteashing the countyy's biggest scandal of all time to hide the identities of those who stole $26 million from us and the elected county officials who should have
been hungry for their failures but were not. The Boxer report on the solar scam is the biggest lie perpetuated on the people of this county ever. This time has come for the truth to be told. It's now. It's time for transparency
regarding the Sussex County solar scan. It's time you to identify the individuals who robbed us. It is time for you to name the elected officials who let Sussex County taxpayers get fleeced. It's time for a new transparent report on the solar scan and a balance
sheet of losses and monies recoup through litigation. And it's time for Commissioner Hayden to take the plea deal, resign from office, and stoke away in shame. We don't want his kind around here. Commissioner Hayden, go. Don't let the door smack your backside on the way
out. Conspiracy theories rise when government lies. Tell us the truth and give us our $26 million back. Thank you. [Applause] Good evening, Kevin Township. Uh there was mention uh last meeting we had
resolution S which was going to release that schedule A which was the actual report the accountability benefits detriment to selling to jail. Um I don't believe there's any reason that they need an open request for that. It was it was part of the resolution one of the
wear I believe that said it should be released once that resolution was adopted and I did make request. Okay, I I'll do that. But I wasn't sure if that was necessary. Any resolution if somebody wanted a copy or an attachment to it, the way to
obtain the document is is via the request. No problem. Thank you. Good evening, Mr. Toron. He was a walking talking
gentleman and a person to go out and speak to anybody and everybody and try to have an intelligent discussion with them. He advanced the thought of family and Christianity.
Today I have a shirt on that says my Tina add to that. Anyway, um I have a um another little diddy that I made up that came to me one night when I was watching some of the
news on television and um as I say it's it's hard for the middle class working people these days to make ends meet. Very very difficult with the auto and everything else going at odds thinking depending what happens
invest from the mountains to the shorine but it's it's getting very difficult so no disrespect anybody I just this is from the heart so let me get this straight I should be thankful for additional taxes
as a homeowner because came to this country unlawfully with children who don't speak English that the schools had to employ more teachers and after all my after all my kid and his friends didn't need the additional funds for a better nutritional lunch we just needed more
children or should I be glad that my hospital couldn't couldn't give me a room as an emergency pat overens one So let me get this straight. So my vote is negated. But hey, we have
more people voting. And oh yes, I should be afraid. So it's been taxpaying US citizen you have to understand eventually you will own nothing and you will be happy and ownership
so I say to those who seem to have all the fake talking points and feelings argument the pain of the hardworkable solitations thank you [Applause]
I just remember I think he does remember I have a track record of not being clown. years official for three years in a row as
mayor never done before. So I think that speaks for itself. [Applause] Happy Hampton Township. Um, I first want to start out tonight saying I'm very concerned about some program cuts that
are part of the big quote unquote beautiful bill. I'd like to tonight focus on uh healthcare vaccines in particular. As of September, there are over over,400 cases of the
measles, which we have not had for a very long time. So far in New Jersey, we have been relatively lucky. We've only had approximately 10 cases. However, school has started and with less vaccination and less availability,
uh, this could get much worse. We all know that when children are in school together, there's a lot of illness going around. I'm I'm also concerned that when the HHS vaccine meeting happens, they're likely to discourage more vaccines,
cause even more illness. And just as another example is uh the co vaccination. Um I also have concerns about that. It is not now recommended for everyone. It's not recommended for most children.
and adults under 85, excuse me, 65. And um if you do want it and you are in that other category, you have to prove health
issues. And this could possibly involve having to go to doctors and have them sign letters, whatever. I know that the governor of New Jersey is trying to work something out so that all New Jersey residents will have access to the vaccine. Whether or not this will be
free is still a question. If it is not free, many will not be able to afford it. I guess I need to know what are you doing for our county to ensure we will be safe from these illnesses. Will there be availability and affordability in our
county? And on subject, I suggest that you that you pass a resolution encouraging the state to vote on two proposed bills dealing with New Jersey county commissioners. The first bill would give commissioners the
ability to declare a vacancy if a commissioner is excuse me absent for three consecutive meetings without good cause. The second would allow county commissioners to suspend and replace a commissioner who is indicted until the
conclusion of their case. This would have been very helpful in dealing with Commissioner Hayden. He has not only been a waste, but he has more importantly been a total disgrace to the county, the state, and the country. And
again, his not being here, but not resigning is just causing more waste. Um, my hope is that it will take some kind of a clear deal and sign and will be done. Time
[Applause] As I've stated before, Just an observation. The storm around us huge international upheaval took place. What do we do? We shrug our shoulders.
The Asian coalition most powerful dangerous dictator discuss the future of the focus to respond. Extremely terrifying of India once considered a friend of the
United States. dictator leader of the world's largest democracy pushed into the arms of Donald Trump Great. Ukraine results. No steps, no concessions, no
ceasefire, no meeting, just sorrowful misadventure. These events precipitate alienated our alliances to help those fighting for freedom. cut off to her friends,
partners in Paris, most sadly supported a weak, naive, inseure man. Leadership was more than babbling. [Applause]
Is there anyone else? My nephew is a member of Pennsylvania. He was recently guards off base were often scary as they would frequently have pickup trucks with armed
nearer managing a number of high volumes. He is dedicated to his highly capable managing employees. I can't imagine being
Chicago and Trump's photo or worse. Does anyone else realize how this is maintaining this in the long run? We will have serviceers who do not want to rein. This is not making our communities safe
is giving Trump an opportunity to try to look strong and to distract from all of his legal entanglements and his inability to truly interest in mind. At the same time, his cabinet is supporting deploying our own
military to US cities despite the fact that these states do not want them, nor do they need them. This leadership with total disregard for I'm sorry, this is leadership with disregard for the people.
Back in early August, I saw the county. One minute. This is not opinion or slander. These are facts. This is a local example of someone elected to serve the people who allegedly chose to cheat them by
dederveic that openly lie to their constituents. It's infuriating. [Applause]
Um, Michael Hughes Hampton. Uh, I came planning to wing a welldeserved diet tribe against commissioners who lie about their military service and then completely fall down on the job. And as a veteran of the National Guard, the
last thing I would want to do was fight in the battle of Chicago. But I was so moved by the gentleman speaking about mental health and the commissioner here. I just like to say that vigorous political discussion is is as American
as apple pie. But if we can be bipartisan about anything, it's political violence. I don't care how strongly and many people feel very strongly about things. Political
violence has absolutely no place in our political discourse. And uh thank you for mentioning it tonight. [Applause]
I'd like to thank mention Charlie 31 years old children seems assassinated because how many of these things we have to put up with any other targets
name was a a trans person. More recently, the man Robert Minapolis target mentioned Donald Trump survived so far.
Some of the rhetoric that we hear tonight encourages people who are not maybe completely stable to do some of these acts also the lack of democrats being concerned with law and order
that 24 most violent cities may have people like Jamal McGriff famil We didn't hear about it till four or five days ago. Apparently they tried to
suppress it. They say he's a schizophrenic. Why are these people out on the street? Why Democrats seem to One minute. God bless Donald Trump. [Applause]
artistion. I have a couple things I just want to mention quickly. When so many people shooting, whe children in school were something
and prayers go out. Thoughts and prayers obviously overseed almost death and by someone who probably had mental illness but yet that's not something that you seem to be concerned about. However, policy and change is
what we need. The last words out of sorry as far as suggestion that came up about having a resolution about commissioner that does not follow through on their elected promise like
might be something you really should consider. I don't know that there's been a case like this in the history of living in Sussex County, but there's always a first time. So, it might be something we really want to consider that we're paying for an empty chair. We
should be 24,000 or 250,000. We're paying for an empty chair. So he should be gone and it's a couple months left in his term he still I would adise because I'm not sure the
age of everybody here some of the US and what just happened New Jersey I completed my when I was a child, my doctor suggested that I get the vaccine and I did. So, I
know that at least I come across that protected. So, I adise everybody to think about that and check for yourself. Um, as far as the elevator, what about our
people? We had to get that on the house. Well, it looks like salt damage to me and maybe reconsider how that's cleared
off, but that really could be fixed. It would be a great entrance into this building. Um, also I was made aware about the uh homeless people were removed. All of their stuff was removed a couple of days ago. Time
every couple of days. Someone came in cleaned up and the homeless are gone. behind. I've gone all through town trying to figure out where they went. You just
don't disappear overnight. I'm just telly overnight. People saw this happen. So does any or who do I need to speak with? I don't even understand where did they go. They were there. I was with my dog. They were there one day
and they were gone. Every single one of them. There weren't one or two. There were some days and I'm driving. And I have neighbors that are checking for meing.
They weren't immigrants. They were all talked to the same street as my brother-in-law. I talked to a guy named Rick. I talked to several of them and we would bring snacks. I just don't understand what happened and I find it really
disturbing. So that's what I get in one minute. Let's be honest. Put it this way. find out what happened. Are there cameras in town? Are there cameras on
the green? I'm just trying to I find it very spoke to a 22y old woman but they're not on the green anymore. So maybe they're notow. Okay. Thanks.
[Applause] Yes. I'm so glad you guys My question is about Are you expanding county? And the reason why I'm here saying this is because my electrician who's from
Sussex County said that they were educ Hopefully I suggest that you expand the offerings because I think many people
are demand real dictate what they do. Superend. They come up. They'll come up. Hi. And then uh can I just add a comment? Go ahead. Just uh just in uh regard to the
community college um as liaison liaison with commissioner Henderson. Uh the way that I approach it is really just presenting them with opportunities that I think that could be successful for them. Once more with the community college, it's up to um the president and uh the board of trustees to uh pursue
that. So just want that clarify that. Anyone else? Good evening to Congress. President Trump and there's a laundry list of things he's done that are illegal, maybe
illegal, so forth and so on. Obviously releasing justly convicted felons from the January 6 riot was kind of sticking in my throat. But the latest is the
ignoring theatus law which forbids the United States military from doing police actions on civilian population. You combine that with all the mass he's put out on the street, rifles, and the
Supreme Court's decision that it's just a okay to stop anybody they care to throw them in a van. They can't identify themselves properly. And instead of belaboring this issue, I would like to make a suggestion that Commissioner
Carney and I go down to the local Home Depot or let's go to the Home Depot in Patter. I'll come as a homeless guy and you put some bronzer on and maybe we got to get you a polyester shirt and we'll just walk up and down and see how it
goes. If they pick us up, they'll put me on a boat back to the Netherlands. I don't know where they send you. Maybe South Sudan, Uganda. You know, it depends, I guess, on how much you squeak when you take away your god-given right to be on the street
free, happy, harassed by illegal search and seizures and it is illegal. I don't think anybody here would think that this is the way to solve our immigration problem. Everybody in here, Democrat, independent
does not want criminals who came into this country to remain in this country. But I don't see the benefit of picking up some poor guy who came here 10 years ago as a family, has kids going to our schools. I don't see any benefit at all
of tossing him in the van and sending him back to where he is technology or is it Sussex vote yeah why are you calling it vote I worked there when it was vote just because of that because I' grown up as a kid okay well they threw the boat out
because I was there when they threw machine shop They threw auto body out. They disappeared my agriculture program where I work and they need to seriously look at what the future some of the job opportunities are.
And there ought to be two Democrats, two Republicans, and two independents on that board. [Applause] As I drive around and see
followers here in New Jersey, what will it take for our residents to understand the Americas that will result in widespread suffering for the masses to historical and modern dictator
playbooks and tyrannical regimes Anyone with the slightest understanding of world history should grasp the grave danger he poses to our free society. So I say to those who continue to support Tyrant Trump and his unciting
the misery that people across the country already just like in Nazi Germany Russia and the misery that we will face our government institutions. Tyrant Trump wants you to think the idea of
dictatorship in America is normal. Tyrant Trump wants you to uninformed and uneducated to keep you under control. Don't let them take advantage of your claims that want a dictator. Is that
what you want? Do you want our American president to lie about emergency law? Do you want the president to create a godlike image of himself and claim he alone can fix?
Do you want opponents and threaten them just for service and killing them without cause or due process. Do you trust tyrant to rewrite history? Do you want to ignore the federal law
and claim powers? Do you want live in a military state where the commander and chief stokes violence between citizen groups. Do you believe the president should corporations and universities to pay tributes to him?
These are the heces that we have in civil society to stop his assault on our democracy are running. What will it take for you to stand up against this tyrant who so blatantly deceives you, suppresses your
rights, takes away your destroys your way of life. I ask our commissioners, please acknowledge that you recognize the parallels of what is happening in our country today to other fascist regimes. Trump the next democracy.
[Applause] A few months ago, when more resil learned that we were showing up because we were fast forward to today in our national parks and our museums.
the corruption of the office of the United States. This referring actions and so I have to ask you, do you support that leadership as a threat to democracy. Do you still
have these acts just become acceptable for the sake of your political with an election? These are things. I have commended you all for how much time and energy you spend in our community.
But I find it so ironic that you your support for all of these programs while also supporting a party that has redirected significant federal funding. One minute. Staff shortages and reduced services.
It is hard for your constituents to sit here and listen to you. supports in our community while your political are in direct contradiction to your
party continues to cut these services between party loyalty. When do your community's needs come first? Is there anyone else? Is there anyone else? Anyone else before Mr. Sabbo?
I violence obvious was his truth and he was speaking. I find I was a history teacher for my life and I find myself thinking of
familience. When he was asked about genocide, he said, And I find myself sitting there thinking that Christians in the United States are It's horrific. One minute
state of Minnesota was murdered. She was a mother and her husband. The governor, the Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, whose house was firebombed. And now I'm preparing. I don't I don't
want us to do that. I think everyone in this room knows that violence is wrong and we should all be able to speak and I appreciate every speaker. Let's not blame
let's see another Anyone else before Mr. Sable? You are you are up, Mr. Sable. Come on up. Just state your name in your municipality, please. Again,
I have not attended as many of these I would like to have I used to be here all the time for many many years but I kind of feel that in the
meetings I have attended here there's been a tendency for people to support most of your programs
most of what you ordinarily have run on when you got elected. But I also find that it seems to me that at the end of these meetings that I have been able to attend,
there is a political wave of naysayers and negative people and everything you say, everything you do, everything the Republican stands for
is evil, bad, rotten, disgusting. and so on. And uh when I notice a trend like that, I don't want to come here and have to speak twice, but I'm compelled to say
that I see this kind of a an action going on by the Democratic Party. And I'm not afraid to say it or talk about it, but there's a whole group that will come up here and
that everything that Trump has said or done is wrong and illegal. And uh I just speak for myself, but I voted for the man very proudly and happily and he's
the only one I know of that stands for and all of it amendments and uh I cannot find Democrats that will individually agree on any of the important issues.
Thank you very much. [Applause] Anybody else before we close to the public? Good. Going once. Okay. All right. Motion to close the floor for public comment. Return to regular business. So move. Commissioner Henderson. Uh Commissioner Groot seconds. All in favor say I.
I. I. Oppose. Abstain. Carries. 24. This is a big one. Before you leave, real quick. Uh, reminders, please check the county's website, www.sussex.nj. us for our meeting schedules. September 14th is Sussex County Day. That is
Sunday. I will be there. I'm guessing Commissioner Henderson and Degrroot will be there. I will be there. Sunday. I know it's your your day of uh Yeah, I'll stop in. Stop in. So So it won't be three minutes or less. If you guys want to come and talk to us, we will answer you back. So,
you a little FaceTime, we we'll be there and we we'll we'll answer your questions and if you have if you want to come and ask whatever you'd like to ask, we'll be there. Jill will not be there. And that's all I'm going to say about that. All right.
We will be there. That's all I can say. All right. Uh number 25 adjournment. Motion to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Henderson, Commissioner Dans. All in favor? Any discussion? No. Good. All in favor say I. I. Oppos carries. Meetings adjourned.
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