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fifth um ZBA member. Um I think that's you. Can you use the raise your hand function or somehow communicate that you can hear us and that you're here? Are you asking for me because I can finally hear you. >> Oh, yay. Okay, great. Thanks, Tony. >> Apologies for that.
>> No, no, no problem. All right, so we are um ready to get started. We're going to move forward with um the um 40B comprehensive special permit for Veterans Crossing. Just a quick recap of um of last meeting. This is a continuation. So, this is just a meeting
that goes that continues over multiple meetings. Um last month we had a full overview of the plan um the proposed plan. We also had spoke to um Abutters and we went through a variety of um a
variety of requests and concerns for the um developer to to address and they have addressed a bunch of those. So, I think the next step now would be to sort of walk through any changes that have been made for the plans. I know there's there was a shadow study to walk through. There's some more imaging
images and then there's also um some changes with the landscaping. So, um if we can walk through that and then we'll kind of walk through um step by step the different requests and what the responses have been um and just kind of clarify those. Um oh, also I forgot to
introduce Paul. Um Paul HDy is our um consultant. Um he's going to be guiding us through this process. Um so he's if is there anything you'd like to share Paul? >> Good evening. For the record Paul and Silverstein
I'm here on a grant from the national partnership to provide technical assistance to the board during the course of this process. Um, I don't have anything specific to address right now, but I'm happy to answer any questions as we move forward.
>> Thanks, Paul. >> Thank you. >> All right. So, would you like to start just kind of by going through any changes that have been made since with the plan since we last met? >> Sure. >> Um, so thank you. Um, just as a just quick introduction again to the team, my
name is Yara Verut. I'm a senior project manager for Neighbor Housing. We have John Smack, our zoning attorney. Jacob Lemieux, civil engineer. Um Chris Kurlin, Christopher Kurlin, TAT, and Holly Grace, also from B V BBH. So, as
you mentioned, we um have worked through both the comments that we received from town staff via memo on September 8th and the comments that were provided by the board as well as the the community present on the ZBA meeting on the 16th.
and we've made some progress plans and uh progress and updated our plans in the form of a progress plan set for comment. As you mentioned, we have a shadow study uh as per request. We have a new rendering uh of one of the perspectives
and um we also have a memo which details our response and how we've addressed each of these uh each of the items. But we'd like to talk about it sort of on you know on uh more um uh summarized manner you know by
touching on first the civil and then the uh civil items that we've uh progress that we've made and then the the architectural items. We've also had uh be neighborh housing as uh per request from a couple of the neighbors of uh Pine Street uh uh across the street from
our future development. Met with them also last week, last Wednesday after we submitted the the plans to to the board. And you know, we're we're um we're uh we heard their concerns and in summary,
some some of their concerns were, you know, they'd asked if uh the the drive the location of the driveway could be removed off of Pine Street, uh possibly through the to the dispensary lot. They were concerned uh about the they their
requests for shifting the main entrance away from the Pine Street as well. and they are are continue to be concerned with uh traffic and safety um around the Pine Street and the surrounding streets. So, we're on those three items. We're
well at least the first two items we're uh in the middle of uh you know we would like to further discuss and we are in the process of uh analyzing it but we do not have a response currently as we plan on also um communicating and working this through with the with the town and
and the the the planning staff. So, um, that is the summary and now I'm going to pass it on to Jacob so he can talk us through the civil plans and I'm going to share I'd like to share our plan set and we'll
focus on >> the layout material plan. Sorry, one minute. Oh, yes. >> Good evening. My name is Jacob Lemieux with Hancock Associates 315
Elm Place Elm Street Marorrow. I'm the civil engineer on the project. So as soon as uh here we go. >> So we've made a number of changes based off of the town of the DPW as well as the abutter comments. Um first off,
we've raised the elevation of the first floor of the building up to elevation 16. Um, so we're now compliant with the building elevations and we're we've got two extra feet above the flood plane which gives us climate resiliency for the future. Um, we have adjusted our
parking lot. Uh, we are now proposing a one-way circulation. Uh, this allows us to have an area on the right as you pull in for a for a uh loading area there while still allowing traffic to flow around the parking area. This stops people from
potentially parking on the roadway and walking into the building entrance. Uh we're also proposing some no parking strike striping down the roadway to make sure that the um curb cut is clear of any sort of uh blockage so that we can
ensure that the garbage truck is able to um travel through the site. Go up to the top there. >> Maybe just zoom in on it. >> Oops. Are >> you going up? You go down.
>> One more. >> One more. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. So, uh we have done a turning analysis throughout the parking lot to show that a uh a large rear load um garbage truck
can get in can collect the garbage and make that turn out there even with uh a vehicle parked in that loading dock area. Now, if we want to go >> has has fire reviewed that as well? >> No, they have not reviewed that yet.
Is that has that been requested or are we waiting on that? Should we make that request? >> Uh, it has not officially been requested, but it's definitely um going to be reviewed by the fire department as part of the review period. Um, additionally, can you just zoom in
on the parking lot area? I know I'm asking you do all these acrobatics. >> No, no, no. Got it. >> Um, by reducing the travel widths because now we're going in oneway circulation. Uh that's allowed us to pull our parking back further away from
the abuing parcels by a few feet as well as provide two or three feet or I think it's 3 ft of landscaped area between the uh marijuana dispensary parcel and the project parcel where some uh plantings
can be installed as well as a uh we're proposing a 4ft fence just to sort of cut that um separate the two areas. Uh, one other thing to mention on this sheet, there was a set of stairs coming off of the other side of the front porch
right where Yara is showing here. We've removed th that set of stairs uh which means that all traffic going up to the entrance of the building uh must travel on site and people can't just leave off onto the walkway there.
We can go to the next sheet. The next one after this. Yeah. Uh so we've adjusted the grading in the parking lot to meet the new building elevations. Uh really not any other changes on the storm water plan besides
we've added uh per DPW request. We've added a cleanout manhole to the to the drain uh the sewer line and as well as modified the c the sewer connection from a insert to using a Y. Um then we can go
to the >> talk about the so the testing that you did. >> Oh yeah, we we're also in the process although we haven't completed this yet um of reviewing the uh sewer capacity on the site at this point. We've gone out,
we've with a vac truck, we've vacuum cleaned and uh inspected all the lines. Uh I've sent that information over to DPW. They're reviewing that now and um we'll set up a meeting to continue that
discussion with the DPW and report back to the board as soon as we can. I think we could just go to landscaping. Uh so one of the changes on the landscaping plan is uh by
the pl the property line in the back of the parking lot area is essentially entirely on top of the subsurface culvert that's in the area. So Gino has requested that we remove and don't plant any trees over the culvert. Uh so we've
modified our plan. Now we're either we're not showing trees or evergreens over the culvert. Uh we are replaced them with shrubs and grasses instead. >> Oh, the fence. >> No, but the green here. >> Oh, yeah. That's so again, you know,
we've by narrowing up that parking area, you're able to have a nice landscape area on the north side of the parking lot, which we didn't have before, as well as between the two parcels there. We just go to uh lighting. Uh we've also gone back and modified our
lighting design. >> Leave it >> to >> I'm sorry. Sorry. uh to remove any light spill from the abuing um residential parcels. So now we are shielding and uh not proposing any
light spill onto the any of the sides of the parcel except for the roadway which is going to be lit anyways by municipal lighting. We've also had uh the trees out there surveyed by an arborist to see if any of
them could be saved. Um, but it doesn't look like any of the existing trees that are on the culvert can be kept there without putting the culvert at risk of future damage. So that is why uh Gino has requested them be removed.
Uh we've also added EV charging stations. Um one of them will be a handicap space and uh I and one will just be a normal space uh up there at the top of the parking area. And uh
>> oh yeah, we all we did go out and per request of the abutters, we surveyed all the location of all the abuing parcels in the rear and across the street so that we're able to give accurate setbacks and um properly um
show where the building will be placed in relation to the neighborhood. And I think u as far as civil items go, that covers it. Chris, do you want to >> do you mind going back to the um so there was a different landscape. There's that and there was something that had
these like red circles that I don't know if I have here >> uh in the landscaping that was in color. >> This Yeah. >> So that has some of the older landscaping on it. That image. Okay. because there's no trees up against
>> unfortunately, you know, we haven't fully updated all the renderings as they they're a little bit. >> So, do you can when you're when you're looking at um say the one that is more updated with the um with the new plantings,
can you just kind of with the cursor show where the culvert is? >> Yeah, I mean if you It'll probably be easier if you You want me to go in here? Well, >> if you I can just kind of >> Is there a way to make a mark on here?
>> Oh, that's not it. >> It's not like moving. >> Yeah. >> So, the covert runs essentially, if you could see where my my marker is. >> Yeah. >> Runs along here like crosses. It's
straddles this property line here. runs back here, connects to another culvert that goes north this way, and then it continues this way, sort of through this green space that we're showing here. >> Okay? >> And the thought is that larger trees,
the roots would then just cause more >> over time, it could cause problems and with the building there potentially close to the culvert, that could >> it could eventually be a structural issue. Um so and of the trees that are being planted that are um on this plan
how many of them are sort of larger shade trees like for the future are going to be zoom where's the zoom right there. >> There's one elm mentioned. >> Yep. There's I'll go through them right now. There's uh one yellowwood, one elm,
two honeyloust, two maples, and two sycamore trees. So, eight trees total >> that would be considered shade trees. >> Yes. Right. >> Thanks. >> Let me get
[Music] Chris. Do you want to How you doing? Uh my name is Christopher Carlin with TAT. Um so to go through the updates we did here. Um so the first thing we as Jacob mentioned is we removed the stair off the right of the
porch, the entry porch. So that has now been removed. Um, and we're going to be redes redesigning and tweaking the uh the porch a little bit to kind of clean that up uh overall how you know style-wise later on. But we capped it off. So now we have the entry is just
our f main entry when you're coming in as we had it. Um incorporating the ramp as we had earlier. Uh so that was our big uh big move that we did here was just on the first floor. Um, also kind of addressing comments about the
secondary door to the right. Um, you know, that's go an egress only uh, emergency egress only stair. Uh, there'll be alarms, triggers, etc. We'll deal with that through hardware about keeping that door propped open so people are kind of going out and in and out. Um, so that's, you know, for management
to kind of take care of. >> No, exactly. >> Yeah. Just >> Yeah. It will not happen. That's the point. We'll we'll do whatever we can to make sure it's alarm triggered, keeps it uh sirens to exit only. >> Yep. >> Um uh so that's pretty much what we did
here as you can see. So this really just kind of highlights as Jacob talked about with the parking. So we just wanted to highlight uh how the flow of the parking would uh look with the striping um the sidewalk uh etc. within this uh site here.
Um we also did a shadow study as was asked last time that we were here. Um so we had our building modeled and just showing pretty much the peak time. So we had in uh the equinoxes and the shortest
day of the year uh and the longest day of the year. Um and just kind of the the most extreme conditions that can happen. So, as you can see, the dark blue is representing where our building would be creating sun uh shade to the neighboring
buildings. And we go through all four uh seasons of the peak to see what they are. And again, that's through a software that picks out which days are the most critical. And and then we have an updated perspective
rendering that we did um that was asked for us last time to kind of give a better feel. So if you want to go to the before. So this is currently how the site is. You know we have the nice portaotti over here. Um so to give a sense of scale looking uh looking down Pine Street. So now if you look to the
next street uh next to you. Yep. Now you can see the scale towards the you know onetory uh twotory houses across the street. street to single family homes um and where those gables and peaks of their roofs line up pretty much with our second floor line. Um again, we matched
our scale of windows to try fitting with the neighborhood so to have that contextual feel. Um so yes, obviously it's a little bit bigger but again the scale is very similar and that's really uh what we got sound. >> That's it. You know that summarizes the
architectural and the civil uh updates that we made. We don't there was also um in terms of other construction management and operation items that were talked about last meeting um you know we are we will be submitting prior to build
as a condition to building permit a full construction management plan and a pest control plan. Um, we're committing to, you know, the a clear trash protocols, sealed dumpsters, regular collection, and no overflow. Um, we'll also be
coordinating with the town uh in the design of the monument sign prior to the final approval and issuing of a building permit. And uh we've withdrawn uh a request for the permit and connection waiver fees. Um, I think that sum, you
know, that summarizes the changes that we've made and, um, you know, we're happy to continue collaborating both with the town as, as Jacob mentioned, Jacob mentioned, we still have some work to do in terms of coordinating on the sewer capacity review and and and and
working with the DPW on that. And you know, we we can we'll stay in close coordination with uh town staff and the others in the community and and the board as um the project continues to be, you know, reviewed. I'm just looking through the list, make
sure we didn't skip anything. Yeah, I think that's all the things that were on the the questions. Um, does anybody from the board have questions? >> I do not. >> I do not.
Paul, is there anything that you wanted to make sure we're looking at at this point? >> He's muted, but >> I apologize. I was muted. >> Uh, no. So far so good. >> Okay. Thanks. All right. So, we're going
to um uh open up for um any questions from Abutters. Um, I'm just going to ask that we keep it to kind of new questions. We've covered a lot of things last time. If you have questions about how those were addressed, um, that's fine, but and if you have new questions, that would be
great. Um, so if anybody has any questions that, um, just raise your hand and um, please state your um, name and address. >> Thanks. >> Oh, we're just going to get you a microphone. Sorry about that. I should have said that.
Steve Gadman, 11 Pine Street, directly across from uh the building going up. uh on the where the parking that they're taking away on each side of the uh the driveway that's going in. That's kind of why we requested uh that be moved
because there's a lot of people that park from New Ocean Street that park on Pine Street because they live in the apartments over there. Taking that parking away from there, we know where they're going to end up. they're going to end up parking in front of our house
>> and make it more complicated for us. They they they squeeze in places where they should they they shouldn't. We're going through that right now. >> Um so that's why we we did request to have if possible um
just have the one exit and entrance um over by the local now going in that way there. >> The way it is right now. >> The way it is right now. um >> instead of having it facing our houses. >> Yeah. So I I had heard that and then you got you they mentioned that sounds like that is something that was discussed
very recently >> and that there hasn't been sort of work through on how to make that work. But I think that's should be something on the table definitely and I think the developer agrees that's something that they're willing to try to work out to see how that would work um and work with the town on that. So that's so I would
say let's table the the concern about that stretch being no parking for now until we see what those plans look like um and then see if it's necessary to have you know what's necessary to have marked as no parking once we see kind of what gets worked through. Right. >> And um question to the engineer about
the uh the culvert. Um you had mentioned the one going along the property and then one going north. What about the one going about across Pine Street? >> So, the one going to the south uh is going to be relocated prior to the
construction of this project. Uh >> so, that's the that's the one that's being relocated. >> Yes. >> Okay. I I wasn't sure which one was >> Oh, the other the other ones that run along the north and go to the north, those are staying in the same place. The covert that's under the roadway is going in the same place. We're coming around
and then tying back into the culvert. So, we're just relocating the section that comes down south through the site. >> Okay. >> Does anybody else have any questions or comments? >> I just say your name and address, please. And actually, if you can pass the microphone. Thank you.
>> Alicia McCarthy, um, Nine Pine Street. I'm just wondering if you um could point to the documents that I should look at to for all of the like sewer information. I know the culverts
have been an issue. I know over the past year they've spent countless hours cleaning them out every single day. I don't know. I've lived here for a long time. I don't know the last time they cleaned them out like that. I'm just wondering, is that going to be
maintained? Does it need to be maintained in order >> for this to work? >> So that's >> who's responsible for maintaining that? >> Yeah. Um I at this point it looks like they're still doing they're still studying. So they cleaned them out. They sent a camera down to take pictures. Um
and um I'm sure you can say more than more than that, but and then it's getting reviewed by from DPW. And so that's still a portion of this project that is being worked on. Is there anything else? >> No, that's that's correct. >> That's correct. Okay. And so if you need to find the documents for like all these
documents with the sewage plans and things like that, um they are available on the town website and um Christie can help you access them if you're having trouble. But everything that's been submitted to us is posted there so everyone can see it. >> Yeah. And once we get this study further along, it'll be submitted to the board
as well. So you'll have access to that. >> Yeah. So once the study >> Okay. So it's just not completed. >> The study's not completed yet. >> Okay. Thank you. No problem. Is there anybody online who has questions? Also, you can Oh, someone has their um raise their hand. >> MF.
>> Hi, Heather. >> Hello. >> Can you hear me? >> Yep, we can hear you. >> This is Marielle and Fletcher, precinct 4. Um, I just have a question. I missed what Yara said about fees. Could she
just repeat that? Oh, the all the fees have the the different fees that have that were requested waiver those waivers are going to be withdrawn. Those waiver requests the waiver requests are going to be withdrawn. >> So, they'll be paying >> so they will be paying the fees. >> Thank you. I just want a clarification
on that. >> You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> All right. Does anybody else have anything? >> John, one question, one question we had was uh related to peer review. We understood
that there was an effort for uh peer review. We're not sure exactly what the peer review was proposed for and I'm not sure we've seen any details on that and wondering whether the board has heard anything further on. So the we were we
were our plan was to do peer um more peer review on um parking and traffic in that area, but if if there's a chance that one of the concerns was the kind of um >> relocation >> the re Yeah, if you're reloc if you're relocating that that all changes. So we'd want to we'd want sort of a study
done that we could review once you've made the changes if you're going to make them. Um, and then the other peer review was for um the um what was that officially called Christie? The >> civilans
>> for all the civil plans and that um that was recommended I think Gino recommended somebody to do that peer review for us. Um >> Okay. >> And we will be in contact with you soon. >> Okay. >> Yeah. We'd like to just see what the scope is and
>> Great. Thank you. >> I think those are the only two peer reviews we're planning on doing. Um but yeah, we'll hold off on the on the traffic until we have a definite >> but on on the civil we far enough along to engage a peer review.
>> I I personally I just don't think that there's really anywhere else that the design can go. So I don't know that it would be premature to get a peer reviewer looking at it. I'm wondering about things like the just the
drive. It doesn't make sense to wait until we know what we're doing with the driveway. >> Okay. >> Okay. Right. Because that could change some of the drainage and stuff like that. And >> yeah. And until all the kind of studies there there needs that study needs to be sort of >> when done to review it.
>> When do you think it'll be in a position to have it updated in for review? Well, I mean, I guess that depends on how this study goes. You know, if we determine that we can't relocate the entryway, then we're
basically there. But if we do, then I probably need two maybe three weeks, probably two weeks or less, and just get like a sketch into you so you can see the layout. But I'd have to get the civil right. So that would be maybe I would want to say two weeks. >> And we'd also have to work with the
town. you know, there's implications on the on the on their land development agreement with the town and the that le that land is currently leased by the you know, it's town land, but it is currently leased by the dispensary. So, we'd have to talk with, you know, with
the town and figure out how that if that is legally also possible. So, it's not it's about both designwise and leg, you know, legally. >> Yeah. Okay. And then the other thing that um we're still waiting and what you were talking about with the sewage um uh research that's being done, that report
isn't done. So we we would need that finished before. >> So I have information to Mark Nan um he's reviewing the the study that we've done so far and then we'll have a meeting with him and determine if he wants any more information or if he wants repairs on specific portions of
the pipes and uh but exactly what the DPW is done there. >> Okay. So, I guess we would have to wait for all that to be done too before we did the peer review. >> Yeah. >> But I'm wondering what Paul thinks about when we should when the town should engage the peer review so that it's in
their queue so that you know if it's done in two weeks. >> Yeah. >> And then we wait to engage a peer reviewer. You know, we have such a short time frame. I'm curious. Paul's got a lot of experience with it. So, I'm wondering what he thinks. No, >> that's a fair point. And I guess the only question is uh if the board feels
that it can authorize Paul to proceed with the peer review. >> What? >> If if uh the board can authorize uh Paul to proceed with the peer review between now and when the plans are are revised so such that we don't lose the extra two
weeks or so before the next meeting. Maybe that's the approach to take if the board's willing to do that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm curious Paul's thoughts. >> Yeah. Paul, what do you think? >> Yeah. So typically it would be town staff and maybe one member of the board
that would be involved in the selection of the peerreview consultants. I always recommend you get them on board as quickly as possible. Even if you know you're at a stage where you're not quite ready for them to commence, at least you've got them in place and ready to
go. Um because as was stated, the time goes really quickly. um you've got 180 days from the date that you open the public hearing to commence your hearing process and that goes very very fast. So the sooner you get your peer reviewview consultants in place the better.
>> Okay. And I think um Christiey's working on that already. So yeah. So we're I think we're >> all right. Perfect. >> On track with that. >> All right. Does anybody else have any questions here? Anyone or anyone online? They can use the raise a hand
button. Yeah. Oh, hi. You got sorry. >> Hi. Go ahead. Um, just because we're still talking about the parking during our meeting with the developers, we had discussed if
they were unable to use one entrance because of whatever land agreement there is. possibly that left bottom um like patch of green like possibly moving the entrance to
like the very end of Pine Street there so it's not directly across from our driveways. >> So it's on to that would be onto New Ocean there. >> Yeah, that is a very dangerous spot for a driveway especially considering the history of the road. If we put a
driveway there, there may be queuing issues going around New Ocean onto Pine Street. Uh we're cramming it in between the Pine Street intersection and the existing parking lot. Um so, and also
the way it comes in would come in in such a way that we would at least have to one or two maybe even more parking spaces because it doesn't come into an aisle. that kind of comes into the side of the parcel that we have parking up against.
So, um it's something that we could look into. I'm concerned about the safety of that location. Um but we can certainly discuss it with Gino and see his thoughts on it. >> Yeah, I I can see those concerns at that location. I think it would it would be
ideal to to if there was a solution, it would be the one entrance solution. Uh I just have a question last last time and I at our meeting I asked about the uh information on the equipment that's going on the roof about the decibel
levels uh coming off if um they've gotten that information yet. >> So that will what we do know now is that everything will be um to code. They're not asking for relief for decibb or any relief for that. Um but the actual um the actual levels and the actual
equipment will be part of the building plan which comes after um after the approval of all the relief. So they're not asking for relief which is good news. It means that they're not expecting to to need it or anything. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Does anybody else have
anything? >> All right. So we will continue to um next month. >> Sure. >> Do you have >> Sure. Yeah. Well, just just a point of clarification in terms of the peer review. >> Yeah. >> And I'm I'm just wondering whether you
know the board would authorize the chair to authorize the peer review provided that we provide a proposed solution that's run through perhaps uh Gino uh and and if he's satisfied with that to proceed with the peer review. Are we talking about the peer review for the
umivil for the civil? >> Yeah, I think the question is if we are able to do that driveway cut, can the board approve Gino to get the go-ahhead to move forward with the peer review so that we can get the extra time prior to
the next zoning board meeting to work on a peer review. >> Um I mean, yeah, we can work on Yeah, we can work on peer review between meetings. >> But do we need to we need a vote? Is that what you're saying? That's what I was just asking. just procedurally. >> Procedurally, we just need >> a motion to >> to engage
>> to engage peer review for the civil and leaving it, you know, if you were going to or be the designate from >> Yeah, I'll work and I'll work with Christy and Gino to to um to get that done. >> So, we should and then when we have Tony, we should probably do a roll call vote on that motion. >> Okay.
>> Are you ready to make a motion? >> I can make the motion. >> Thanks, Mark. So, I'll make a motion uh to designate um Heather to be the board designate to work on the selection of the civil peer review
and to work with um the DPW or any other department that's required or reasonably necessary to properly engage the correct peer review person and to commence
to engage and commence um If the plans are at a sufficient stage to u have that review, >> we'll second it. >> All right, we'll do a roll call. Susan. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> And then Tony, >> Tony might be muted. >> Muted or Is he there? >> Tony, if you can just vote on that um authorization. You need to unmute yourself if you're
>> sure. >> Yeah, it's >> he he texted me. Yes, I'm trying to unmute. I'm going to count that as a yes, but to be honest, we don't necessarily need it. We still have the approval without it. So, um, but we'll call unanimous. All right. Um, excellent. Okay. So, we're
going to What's that? >> The text counts. >> Text counts. Yes, exactly. So, we will continue to our next meeting. I'm just looking at my calendar as to when that is because we have um a holiday next month. >> We have it on the 18th. >> We have it on the 18th. All right.
So, can we just get a motion to continue to um our meeting on November 18th? >> I'll make a motion to continue the public hearing to November 18th. >> We got a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I
>> I >> And Tony's okay without We can still do it without him. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. >> All right. Thank you everyone. >> Thank you. Thank you.