Whatever. It's 2 p.m. March 12th. March 12th, and the Code Enforcement Board meeting for the City of Tarpon Springs is
now in session. Bobby, can we have a roll call, please? Mr. Dimas here, doctor. Here. Mr. Ogle. Here. Mr. Stefan here.
Mr. Abercrombie here. Mr. Paul here, Miss Kern here, miss Barrett. Here, Miss Lambert here. Thank you. Please. Your
call. Sir. Would you all please stand for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance? Dear God, please give us both the
integrity and the empathy that we would need to make the right decisions today for the benefit of the citizens and people of Tarpon Springs. Amen. Pledge of
allegiance. I pledge. Pledge allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty, justice, justice for all. Be seated. Thank you. I'm
going to review the hearing procedures for this board. The procedures for this code board are as follows. It is the intention of the board to promote, protect and improve
the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of Tarpon Springs by providing an equitable, effective and inexpensive method of enforcing
various codes within the City of Tarpon Springs. Any aggrieved party may apply. A final administrative order of this board to the Circuit Court.
Such appeal shall be filed within 30 days of the execution of the order to be appealed. Florida Statute 286.0105
requires any party appealing a decision of this board to have a record of the proceedings to support such an appeal. The procedure of this board is as
follows. First, the city presents its witnesses and exhibits, after which the alleged violator is able to ask the city's witnesses any specific questions regarding
their testimony. Secondly, the alleged violator is allowed to make a presentation and present his or her witnesses and exhibits. Then the city can
question the alleged violators. Witnesses. After both rounds of testimony, both on the part of the city and on the part of the alleged violator, each party is asked to give a closing
statement, first by the city and then by the alleged violator. After those three steps are taken, this board will close the public hearing
portion of the case to discuss it and take appropriate action. Before we begin the public proceedings, we will have all potential witnesses stand up
and be sworn in by the Secretary of the board. Bobby. Do you swear the testimony about to give the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do,
thank you. Please turn off all cell phones or put them on to silence. I'm going to turn to the code enforcement officer.
Your first case today that you're presenting. Yes, sir. My name is Mike Robinson. I'm the code enforcement officer for the City of Tarpon Springs. And
in this case is for 1508 Poinsettia Avenue. And it is not a homesteaded property. On
February 4th. This was initiated by a citizen complaint. We went out and inspected the property. And
found it to be in kind of a just an unkempt state. The front yard is. Oh, I apologize.
So this is the location. It's located on Poinsettia Avenue right here at the intersection with North Florida. So you can see from the aerial here, you'll see sort of the dirt
that's here. So the house is just kind of unkempt at the moment. There's not a front yard to speak of. It's all just sand. This is the front of the house. The gutters are full. You can see there's actually
things starting to grow out of the gutters. This is on the side here. Another where there's just the the clogging and things growing. You can see
all the bushes are overgrown. This is a shed in the backyard that's become dilapidated. It's kind of starting to come apart and could become a risk
potentially with any severe weather or storms. More overgrowth just coming down over the entryway. As you approach this entryway, there's
all kinds of wasps and things. So just general, the property just not being maintained. And then this is from the front, this yard. Now currently today,
I want to say that the sidewalk is clear. So we've taken that picture out. But what's happening is every time there's rain or wind, all of this dirt and sand is then coming on to
the sidewalk, creating a hazard. So we did not issue a courtesy letter in this case. We inspected it on the fourth. On the fifth, I issued a notice of
violation. The reason being is because we had had dealings with this house before, in which he did take some steps and clean the sidewalk and did a little bit of work. But this
time with it being another complaint and the issue is just not going to go away. This isn't kind of a band aid fix. It needs to be addressed for more long term, long term. So
we issued the notice of violation on the fifth with a deadline of the 26th, which was not met, which is when the notice of hearing was issued. Which brings us here today. So
what we're looking to do is just have the property cleaned up significantly, have a lot of this overgrowth, cut back, clear the gutters, clear the debris off the roof, repair the
shed or remove it. And then most importantly, here in the front yard, we'd like to see a silt fence put up to keep the dirt off of the sidewalk,
because just trying to put a yard in right now with water restrictions and things just not be a great, you know, I think would be an unfair burden on the owner trying to tell
them, you got to put in a new yard when water is going to be a problem. So silt fence to protect the sidewalk and keep it from coming over. I have spoke with the owner. On March
6th. We had a phone call and kind of went over some of the things that we were looking to have done, and I explained the process here. Are you the owner? Okay, so he did make it. He was
out of town at the time. So I had explained how this would work and what was going to go on. So if you don't have any objection, do you mind if I submit the evidence? Just the photographs and all that stuff.
A couple photographs this morning too as well. That's fine. But can I submit this to the board? I don't know, do you have any objection? Do you think we trespassed on your
property or anything like that? Well, I mean, pictures from the back and forth, you know, in the backyard. I don't know how you got them. They were taken from the neighbor's property. We didn't we didn't go on yours.
And then I guess the front door trespass. Well, I can walk up to knock on your door. Yeah. No.
So. Okay. So. That completes my presentation from there. So if you have questions for me or I'd like to suggest that we
take a brief recess and perhaps you and this gentleman, he indicated that he had some pictures that he wanted to show you. Okay. But before we do that, if you're going to testify today. I'd like to have
you sworn in. You weren't. You weren't here when we swore in the witnesses. I don't I'm sorry. Sorry. Don't go up there.
Right answer for you, young lady. Okay. Very good. Just stand up. Stand up. Right hand. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give us the whole truth and nothing but the
truth? Yes. Thank you, thank you. Now, if you're going to call, you will call from here
again. Do you? Let's take a brief recess. Here. And I. See
graduates. You work remotely. But she isn't doing games. What kind of warding for the little
thumbs. So with that fantasy stuff, good job. But then after about two years in England, she's willing to go there for
the coffee. I said to my nephew. I said, I hope he's going to make a lot of money, but he doesn't matter. He loves this
more and she's been a judge in the next. 22. And then and then just a little different than
everybody else. But yeah, she found this thing that she liked and get a good view. Right? I
want you choose. Yes. That's it. Whatever you did for her. Yeah. It's awesome. That's what I
forgot. I don't know. But this, this is very indicative of what?
More I. Have. So I just wanted to show you that I think it has
made the last few months more. That more difficult. You know?
But I think. It's okay. I understand that the rest of the
house. Is. Waiting. All right. Let the record indicate that the time is 211 and we'll
return from a recess. Officer, if you continue, please. So I looked at the photographs. I still would like to see the silt fence installed. I think
it's just having dirt there. It's just notot something I. I want to leave be. And if we have issues with other neighbors, at some point there's dirt. You you are free
to call and make that complaint if it's the same issue, we would address that. But today we're here to address your property. So that's that's my position. I'd like to keep
right where we're at the silt fence and cleaning up the property before I'm going to give you a chance in just a
moment. Just just for my understanding. So the the three violation codes listed are still. Yes, sir. It's all the same. Eight 4841 and eight dash
52 all right. Go ahead sir. Yeah. Go right up to the mic. Okay. So on the subject of the shed in the back, the doors are
incorrect. Can you just identify yourself. Yeah. Oh my name is Peter. Can I talk. Okay. So the shed in the back has got
the doors open. The shed isn't compromised or anything like that. So the doors can be fixed. The property can be cleaned up. Yes. The gutters have leaves in them and things are growing out
of them. I'll take care of cleaning that up. The yard can be, you know, cleaned up. Okay. Just fine. The the reason there's no grass there anymore is because for years, the
neighbor's kids played in the front yard and they played in the front yard. And I never said anything to them about playing in the front yard. I didn't scold them or reprimand them or anything like that.
They played football, they played baseball. They rode their bikes there. You know, our balls left in the yard. And I always take them and, you know, send them over to the other yard when I'm there. And
then their bike tracks that have come and gone and been there for a long time. So I just thought, the kids need a place to play. They're playing
here wasn't a big deal. Well, over time the playing took the grass away and as you can see, what he saw from the neighbor's yard. It's also taken part of
the neighbor's grass away and has sand there too. And, you know, I, I don't complain about anybody or any neighbors. And, you know, I don't need to, you know, go on record for
complaining on people or anything. It's just not my personality or anything. And I just let the kids do their thing and it chewed up the grass. So yes, when it rains in
the summertime, the sand does go down and it goes to the street. But if you keep it clean, you know, and in terms of putting sod now I've called to see if I can put sod. Now
I've been advised against it. One, because it was cold up until recently and two because of the water restrictions. So. You know, the house did have
grass, the lawn did have grass, and it's gone for, you know, the reasons that I stated, I don't live in that house. I live out of town. And so I'm
not there. I'm there very, very infrequently. And I work out of town. But you know, it still is my house. You know, I pay the taxes on it. And if you guys
need me to do a little of the cleanup, I'll be happy to do a little of the cleanup. But I also wanted you to know that the reason the house looks like that is because the kids in the neighborhood played there and
used it as a play lot, and I never told anyone they couldn't because I thought, why not let them play? And, and, you know, it's also the kids from the
neighbor's yard, which I think is where the complaint comes from or what signed. I think the complaint was signed by the neighbor that I've talked about.
He can confirm that. So that's it. You know, the shed doesn't have to come down. It can be fixed, the gutters can be cleaned, the house can be spruced up in the course of a day, and then we can move on.
But the the silt fence, I thought wasn't necessary in my opinion, because, you know, it looks like there's a silt fence up and it'll be up until, you
know, somebody can put sod down and it's okay to put sod down. But for the last two months that we have had rains, there's been no sand on the sidewalk.
So I just, I don't know, I was just thinking if we could be logical about this, I'm here to be logical about it. And I know I haven't been a great neighbor, but I don't live there. And,
you know, whatever it's I understand their side of it too, but I just hope people understand my side of it, that's all. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Any board members have any questions for
either the officer or the. Person? Who the allegations are made against? Go ahead. Is the
dwelling presently inhabited? It's only inhabited by myself. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sir, do
you need your backup? It's only inhabited when I'm in town. I don't have a. I live by myself. I don't have a family. No one
living there. It only when I'm there. Somebody there. How often are you there? Infrequently. Infrequently.
Once a month. Once every six months. Once a month, maybe. Something like that. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on my schedule, my work related schedule. So basically it's
uninhabited for 29 days out of the month. I would say that's not accurate. Thank you. Anybody else have any questions? Yes, sir. Just a few questions.
Step back up there for it please. And I'll just ask you a few questions, sir. How long ago was this with the kids were playing in your neighborhood or next door? How long ago was
that? It was. Went on for years. It was the last day. They still play in your neighborhood, in your yard? The kids have grown up, I think a bit, but there's still evidence of baseballs and
things like that that I have to send over to the next yard. Yes. So we're talking a long time ago. This is not happening now or months ago. You said they're grown ups, so. Well, I don't I
don't know how old the children are, but I do know that when it started, the yard didn't look like that. It had grass. And over time of letting the kids play there and not telling them
they can't play. How long ago was that? It's been a number of years. When's the last time they played there? I don't know because I'm not there to see, but I'm there to see the
evidence of bicycle tracks and things like footballs and baseballs and things like that that are left in the yard. Okay,
so you occupy it on occasion. You said every whatever. Yes, yes. So is your intent to sod it at some point? You said you checked into it because of the
weather, etc. and all that. Yes. I mean, I don't have a problem putting sod on there or some kind of ground cover like peanut flours. I've looked into that. That doesn't require cutting or things, but yeah, I
don't have a problem doing that. I just told I can't do it now and I shouldn't do it now. And this gentleman advised me against it too, because of the water restrictions. He said I would just lose the sod.
Understood? Could I sir? Could I ask, do you have a picture of the covered sidewalk? We took it out because it is not as of today. It was not covered, but it has been covered in the past.
But that's why I took it out because as of today, it was not. Yep. We have another question. Just one question. I'm just looking at the photos and I see
that the shrubs and the growth out of the gutter system that looks like it's been there quite some time. Is it is it gone now? No, it's not gone now.
But it can be gone. I mean, I'll get rid of it. So. But that's not the result of any kids playing on your property. No, that part of it is not. And
another question, I think it's consistent with what my colleague here said too. I mean, the kids playing. Okay, I understand that it sounds like it's a long time ago. Doesn't sound like it's going on now.
It tore up your grass, but certainly all the other issues, those are long standing issues. In order for the foliage to grow in that manner. It's I mean, it's a long time. You're
still responsible even though you're not there. You said you're there, etc. But you know, I find it really an easy fix is just do it, you know, and get
it done. I'm happy. I'm happy to do it. And you know, I'll get somebody over there. If I have had people in the past go and do things well, it's been a while because leaves just don't stay there for a short time.
And I mean, you could tell by the thing, but my point is that, you know, you're responsible and we'd like you to. Sure. I understand I'm not disputing any of that. No, I know, but the kid thing and all that,
this this is a long time, so I. Yeah, I understand, but I also just thought it should be known that that the reason the grass isn't there is because, you know, the grass disappeared because the kids played in the
neighborhood there. And I left them alone a long time ago. Yes. And still there's still evidence of baseballs and toys that I send over to the other side. Understood. All right. Thank you, sir. Yeah. That's it.
Any other questions? I'm sorry. Go ahead. Ma'am, when do you think you would start putting the sod in? I know the water issue is a problem, but do you have a tentative start date? No, I don't, because I don't know
when they'll lift the restrictions. Any further questions? How soon after? Let's say it rains for a week
or something? How soon after that would you be able to start the sod? As soon as I can get somebody to do it. I don't have a problem having somebody put it in the front yard or peanut
flours or whatever. Ground cover, something to deal with the erosion. No further questions. Does anyone care to make a motion? In this case?
I'll make a motion. Go ahead. Sir, I move in case number 20 6-80000758 to find the respondent. Peter Cusack in
violation of the City of Tarpon Springs. Code of Ordinances eight dash 48 dash 41 and eight dash 52 for the property, located at 1508 Poinsettia
Avenue, and to assess a fine of $50 per day beginning on April 9th, 2026 until compliance is achieved and to order the respondent to contact the Code Enforcement Division to arrange
for Reinspection of the property to verify compliance with the board's order. Second. Okay, we have a motion that's been made and second, any other motions? No other motions.
Let's vote on this. We'll have a voice vote. All those in favor of yes. All those opposed?
Apparently. All in favor. So the motion passes. Okay. So that I'm under the understanding you want a silt fence up the front, the gutters
cleaned out and the back shed to not have its doors open and to look like it's okay and just generally clean up. The problem will come out and clean up the property with will come out.
And as, as you make work, we'll come out and identify any other problems. But in general, we need to clean the property up. But I want to make sure that when I bring people to come over to help or whatever,
whoever's going to do it, whether it's me or me and help that, that I have a list of what you need done and I want to understand the list. So if that's the list, you want to cut back overgrowth from the
front of the house, clear the gutters, clear all the overgrowth on the sides, anywhere, anywhere where there's overgrowth and unkempt. Okay, repair or remove the shed and install a silt fence. Okay.
All right. I have until April 9th to do that, right? Yeah. What's that? I have until April 9th to do that. Let's move on. If there's further discussion that you two need to have, why
don't we do it off the record outside of the hearing? Yes, sir. Let's go on to the next case. Okay. But again, I have until April 9th. That's all I need to know, right? Yes, yes.
No. Isn't that what you said? Yes. You'll have to deal with the code enforcement officer. Thank you, everybody, for your time. Have a good day. Thank you to. All right. Next case
please. So case two, we are going to pull. They came into compliance before the hearing. That's Lake View Drive. So we're going to move on to
number three which is case (248) 000-0323. I apologize that's the one we're pulling.
Case 258000073445 27 Dawidk Court. All right. Is there anyone here? Chairperson this lady wanted to talk and
reference the last case, but I know you closed out. I and they have to leave. So she's wanting to know if she can talk publicly about the case that
just finished. They live in Poinsettia. I have no problem with that. Go ahead. Well, we probably should have let him
escape, but you guys already found one. Sorry. Hi, my name is Renata Torres. I'm at 1510 Poinsettia. The gentleman is my
neighbor. He has been there for 11 years. It's gotten worse and worse and worse. Yes, there are balls in his yard. I have three kids. There's my neighbor has
three kids. They play everywhere. My neighbor has grass in the front and the back. I have grass in the back. The front is from the water, him
not keeping it. That is why my grass is now messed up. I cannot put up a fence because he has overgrowth that we keep kind of pushing back on his
yard and they told me it wasn't, it doesn't make sense to put up a fence because it's going to ruin it. The reason there is no sand on the sidewalk is because
he has great neighbors, and they clean it up for him. Across the street. I have the his neighbor right next to him because the kids, they're little, they ride their bike.
They don't realize that the sand. They've crashed many times because it is thick sand covering the sidewalk. So we have cleaned that up. The thing
with the the, the gutter, I'm sorry, the the shed. There's cats in and out. It doesn't bother me if a shed is open or not, but it is open and there's
cats in and out. My yard is covered in cat poop and cats. It's constantly back and forth. There's the bees and the wasps. We've had. Somebody years ago
got stung by one because he had. We also had the beekeepers come out and they took the honeycomb out of the front yard. Yes. So I do get the balls. He did tell
me years ago he was going to do this and this and this, and we just wait and wait because I felt bad, I felt awful. However, I feel it has nothing to do
with financials. It has to do with lack of care and concern. He does not care. He is barely there. Barely. When something
happens, he gets a notice. He comes, he sends somebody to mow the lawn and then he calls it a day and that's it. But everything is still sitting there. Yes. So the neighbors
are the ones who have been taking care of his yard when he is not there, which I don't think is fair. And he did blame the kids. Yes, kids play. Maybe they shouldn't have played over there, but not to that effect.
And then he him blaming them is unfair. And like I said, a few houses down, they play six, seven, eight boys at a time and the grass is perfectly fine. This is from him not keeping it up, affecting mine too. Can't
put sod in it because he said it's not worth it because I fortunately have it on both sides. But yeah, I just really, really hope that he could maybe keep his word this time and
just just clean it up. Well, ma'am, let me let me interrupt you. The case has been heard and you were here to hear our decision. Yes. So that's it's
in motion to to get it resolved. So it took me a long time to do this, to get up here and talk. So I just wanted to say it. So that's all, you know, and I just bothered me that he had
some new information. So. No, that's it. I just need to go over the same. Yes. Thank you. That was just my side. All right. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Guys. I think you have a good day. Thank you. And
we'll now go back to the case at hand. Yes, sir. My name is Mike Ross and I'm the code enforcement officer for the City of Tarpon Springs. And this is for the property
located at 527 Doric Court. It is not a homesteaded property. On December 29th, we inspected this property due to a citizen
complaint. Door court dead ends off of Chesapeake Drive. And this large field here is divided into three parcels one,
two and three. The entire area was overgrown. We opened cases on all three parcels. Two of them have been cut. So we are dealing with this parcel here
on the dead end today. That is 527. There's nobody here. So I'm going to submit my evidence
if there's no objections. As you can see it's just an overgrown field. It's just not being maintained or cut. And it has not been maintained or cut
in a while. This is one of our snipe signs for reference. These these signs stand about four feet tall and you can see the grass is already up to the
midpoint of the sign, so the field is just overgrown and all we're looking to do is get the field to be cut and maintained. We've attempted to reach out to the owners and we've had no
contact with them. And that concludes the presentation. Our exhibits for evidence are exhibit A, our photographs. Exhibit B was the Notice of Violations and Notice of
Hearings. Exhibit C is the affidavit of postings for the Notice of Violation and Notice of Hearings. Exhibit D is the Pinellas County property appraiser and tax collector. Information and exhibit E is
any email or communication we have had. And that concludes my presentation. Any board members have questions for the officer?
I have a question. Mike, did you say that there has been no response from the owner whatsoever? Okay. Do they live
local or are they out of state or what new New Port Richey was where the the mailing address comes back to? Oh, yeah. Okay.
So thank you. Go ahead. Sir, is the city operating surveillance drones? No, no. Where does this
picture come from? That looks like the property appraiser. That's a that's on the county website. It's an overhead shot. It's just where I believe it's
from satellite imagery. It's not ours. We don't own it. Nobody owns it. It's the county. It's the same as like Google Maps. When you look down from the county operating surveillance drones. I can't
speak to the county. As I understand it. That's g I s it's satellite data. Same difference. Okay. All right. Anyone have any further
questions? Does anyone care to make a motion in this case? I'll make the motion. Go ahead, sir. So I move in case number 20 5-80000734 to find the
respondent. Anthony Esposito's and Dina Esposito's in violation. The City of Tarpon Springs, code eight dash 48 dash 41 and eight dash 52. For
the property, located at 527 Door Court. And to assess the fine of $25 per day beginning on April 9th, 2026 until compliance is achieved and to
order the respondent to contact the Code Enforcement Division to arrange for a Re-inspection of the property to verify compliance with the board's order. Anyone care to second that motion? I'll second that
motion. All right. Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor of accepting the motion, say yes. Yes, I, I and
anyone opposed nay, no opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Brings us to our next case. Go ahead. Officer, this is going to be an affidavit of
noncompliance for a board order. You guys passed on the home located at 1107 Goshen Road. We have been in contact with. There's been a lot of banks
changing hands. It's been a foreclosure. They are trying to get it there, but they still have not come into compliance. So this is just an affidavit of noncompliance that your order
was not met. And we will update you as soon as they do get that into compliance. Any questions
for the officer. Does anyone care to make a motion to accept this affidavit? I'll make that
motion. Go ahead sir. I move in case number 20 5-0800008586 to find the respondent. Freddie Mac or Federal Home Loan
Mortgage Corporation trustee Freddie Mac. Seasoned loan structured transaction Trust did not correct the violations
on or before two 2326 for the property located at 1107 Gross and Goshen Road, and to accept the affidavit affidavit of
noncompliance any second now. Second and all those in favor say I. Yes. Anyone opposed? Say nay passes unanimously brings
us to our next case. All right. This is a little bit of a goofy one, so bear with me. So this is going to be an affidavit of compliance. We're asking the
board to place the. You remember Spartan gas we brought before you for the food truck being behind the gas station? Oh, yeah. While that hearing was going on, the gentleman was
here trying to get his paperwork signed off. There was some miscommunication between us, the building department and him. It was sort of a comedy of errors. So what I'm going to
ask the board to do is actually to to accept the affidavit of compliance. And you'll see in the motion we're asking the board to rescind its its previous order, the the lien
that was placed on the property. Because he did come into compliance. It was just a mess of a situation with the hearing and him trying to get in touch with the building department. But the building department
person was in here for the hearing. It it was a mess. Bottom line, he has complied and we would like you to accept the affidavit of compliance. Okay. Anyone have any questions
for the officer? Anyone care to make a motion? I'll make the motion. I move in case number 25 80000722 to find respondent
Saint Mary u s a l l c did correct the violations on or before 220 828 26 for the property located at four South Pinellas Avenue and to accept
the affidavit of compliance and rescind the recorded code enforcement lien from the previous order. Second, all
those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. No one voting in the negative will accept that motion and move on.
Any other cases. Officer, you are all free to go home. That's it. All right. And I understand we have some. Minutes to
approve. Minutes. Bobby, you have you have something that you need as to go over the the minutes from one of the one of
the meetings. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. There is a on the agenda. It is on there for approval of minutes for for February 12th,
2026. All right. We need a vote on that, I guess. Yes, sir. All right. All those in favor of accepting the minutes, say I, I
anyone opposed? No opposition. All right. Apparently we're finished then. Any board members care to make a comment?
Anyone else care to make a comment? Any public? Oh. I'm sorry. Go ahead. The one with the sand and all that kind of stuff. Pull your mic down. Yeah.
In regards to the sand and all that, why would we tell them what they have to do, don't we? Just by the law, tell them, hey, need to do whatever you got to do to keep the stuff, not tell
them you have to do a silk fence because you might want to put paver blocks. You want to do anything else, don't we just tell them it's up to them to determine it versus us telling them you as a board can, but we
we will work with them and kind of give them options. I told them he's he could put in sod if that's what he wanted to do. But with water restricted concrete pavement, I had to do that in my yard. In fact,
because I'm on a hill over there by the middle school. So I actually had to put blocks up there to stop everything flowing. That's why I'm just I just want to make sure we're being fair. We follow the law. Yeah. You got to keep the
sidewalks. So if he does blocks, he does. He does whatever he does. It's fine. We don't tell him he has to have the. You as a board are just telling him come into compliance. That's I'm just validating. We will tell him what compliance is. I think that was a recommendation from you, Mike. Right. So I think that's just a recommendation. So that's a. I just want to make sure that's a valid point because, you know,
you can tell if somebody, you know, fix it, but how, you know, just fix it. So any further comments? Apparently not. We're going to close this meeting. Let the record indicate that
the time is 2:39 p.m. and this committee is adjourned. We're
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