WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=udSt9EC0_yw Part: 1 1 00:07:43.663 --> 00:07:55.975 And the code board for the City of Tarpon Springs is now in session. Bobby, would you please call the roll? Mr. Dubose's here. Doctor. Mateo 2 00:07:55.975 --> 00:08:07.153 here. Mr. Ogul here. Mr. Stephan here. Mr. Excuse me, Mr. Paul. Mr. Miss. Curren here. 3 00:08:07.153 --> 00:08:16.895 Mrs. Merricks here, miss Lambert is here. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I could you all please stand for the invocation and 4 00:08:16.895 --> 00:08:31.009 the Pledge of Allegiance? Dear Lord, please give us both the insight and the empathy required for us to make the 5 00:08:31.009 --> 00:08:41.721 best decisions. On behalf of the citizens of Tarpon Springs. Amen. And now for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance 6 00:08:41.721 --> 00:08:51.097 to the flag. The United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with 7 00:08:51.097 --> 00:09:01.841 liberty and justice. Justice for all. Okay. Be seated please. 8 00:09:01.841 --> 00:09:15.554 That those old knees. Mike, you got. You got your old knees. You have a little trouble. Okay, we're going to go over the hearing procedures for today. 9 00:09:15.554 --> 00:09:25.998 The procedures for this code board are as follows. It is the intention of this board to promote, protect and improve the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of Tarpon 10 00:09:25.998 --> 00:09:38.210 Springs by providing an equitable, effective, and inexpensive method of enforcing various codes within the city of Tarpon Springs. Any aggrieved party may appeal a 11 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:50.122 final administrative order of this board to the Circuit Court. Such appeals should be filed within 30 days of the execution of the order to be appealed. 12 00:09:50.122 --> 00:10:03.069 Florida Statute 286.0105 requires any party appealing a decision of this board to have a record of the proceedings to support such an appeal. The 13 00:10:03.069 --> 00:10:14.312 procedure of this board is as follows. First, the city presents its witnesses and exhibits, after which the alleged violator is able to ask 14 00:10:14.312 --> 00:10:27.159 the city's witnesses any specific questions regarding their testimony. Secondly, the alleged violator is allowed to make a presentation and present his or her witnesses and 15 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:39.739 exhibits. Then the city will question them. The city will question them and the alleged. 16 00:10:39.739 --> 00:10:49.849 And the alleged violators. Witnesses. Excuse me. After both rounds of testimony, both on the part of the city and on the part of the alleged violator, each party is asked 17 00:10:49.849 --> 00:11:01.727 to give a closing statement, first by the city and then by the alleged violator. After those three steps are taken, this board will close the public hearing portion of the 18 00:11:01.727 --> 00:11:09.268 case to discuss it and take appropriate action. Before we begin the public hearings, we will have all potential 19 00:11:09.268 --> 00:11:23.349 witnesses stand up and be sworn in. Is she going to testify? No. Then no. Okay. Do you swear the 20 00:11:23.349 --> 00:11:33.392 testimony you're about to give is the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do, thank you. And be seated. And please turn off all cell phones to silence 21 00:11:33.392 --> 00:11:47.306 or off. Okay. Let me turn to the inspector, sir. Are you ready to present your first case? Yes, sir. My name is Mike Ralston. I'm the code enforcement officer for the 22 00:11:47.306 --> 00:11:54.980 City of Tarpon Springs. And I will be presenting this code board for Officer Tony Boone, who was not able to be here 23 00:11:54.980 --> 00:12:09.395 today. So this case is 26-80000861 for Linda M Allen of 399 Dixie highway. This case 24 00:12:09.395 --> 00:12:21.640 was initiated when police responded on June 16th for a call for service because of a generator running. So it was a noise complaint report was taken that evening. The 25 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:33.185 generator was turned off. Code enforcement was then notified by the police officers who responded out that night. A case was opened on June 17th. 26 00:12:33.185 --> 00:12:44.162 The initial inspection took place on June 17th. Officer Boone took several pictures. There was a RV in the front yard. That's what the generator 27 00:12:44.162 --> 00:12:56.175 was originally hooked up to and running. There was various trash and debris located throughout the yard. You can 28 00:12:56.175 --> 00:13:08.487 see here there's a gas can, bag of trash, various debris. It was just generally unkempt. The you can see the generator up 29 00:13:08.487 --> 00:13:17.496 there by the door. It had was disconnected at this point, not running. These are just more 30 00:13:17.496 --> 00:13:27.906 photos. What happened next was Officer Boone explained that the RV. You could not be living in the RV and that the property 31 00:13:27.906 --> 00:13:42.621 would need to be cleaned up. Here is his posting. On 622. Was the inspection the kind of follow up date? But he was not 32 00:13:42.621 --> 00:13:53.866 able to get to it due to work load. So they got two extra days really out of the deal. On the 24th I was back from vacation, so I went with 33 00:13:53.866 --> 00:14:02.441 Officer Boone and we inspected the property again to see what kind of progress had been made. You can see by the photo the RV had been removed by that point, 34 00:14:02.441 --> 00:14:14.486 but there's still debris and trash. Kind of just all over the place. The front porch was is is currently just chock full 35 00:14:14.486 --> 00:14:28.033 of that's of different furniture. There's like a, like a storage cabinet for kind of, I think they used to sell goods like a little market. There's a 36 00:14:28.033 --> 00:14:40.279 broken window on the side of the house that is just kind of taped up. There's a pallet laying around and just general overgrowth. It was at this time 37 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:50.322 that a neighbor then brought to our attention that there was also a pool in the back that was not being maintained. The neighbor gave us permission to 38 00:14:50.322 --> 00:15:02.234 go down the side of the house on their property, where we kind of observed more in the back overgrowth, and the back patio is just again full of 39 00:15:02.234 --> 00:15:12.277 stuff, kind of just junk and debris everywhere. And the pool is green. This was not listed on the original case because it 40 00:15:12.277 --> 00:15:23.288 came up in the middle of the initial investigation. On the 29th, there was a phone call. The property owner contacted 41 00:15:23.288 --> 00:15:34.299 code enforcement and asked if Officer Boone would speak with her grandson, Noah, and to kind of give him what needed to be 42 00:15:34.299 --> 00:15:46.478 done. Noah, we explained to him what needed to happen, and really, no, there had been no improvement at all. Then we 43 00:15:46.478 --> 00:15:58.424 were led to we were put in contact with another member of the family, the. The daughter, Lee, is the daughter of the property owner, and she sort of 44 00:15:58.424 --> 00:16:10.302 explained that she would like to kind of come in and be the, the point person and is going to be the one that's looking to get all this now cleaned up. Her mother is incapable of it. 45 00:16:10.302 --> 00:16:19.278 And Noah is just, I guess, decided he didn't want to do anything. This was in done yesterday at 7 a.m. there was 46 00:16:19.278 --> 00:16:32.624 still really no change at all. Everything is still exactly as it was. The pool. I guess Noah did pull a solar cover over it, 47 00:16:32.624 --> 00:16:42.000 thinking that would kind of solve the problem, but it really is only going to exacerbate it and just make the pool even warmer. And then this 48 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:51.677 morning we inspected again or inspected again just to see if there had been any change, even anything. The grass had been cut, anything, nothing had been 49 00:16:51.677 --> 00:17:04.289 done. So at this juncture, this we're seeking kind of two separate dates, one for the initial call. That was the trash and junk and debris. And 50 00:17:04.289 --> 00:17:15.801 then, in the interest of fairness, a second motion or a second date, same motion, but a second date, giving them additional time for the things that were discovered in the 51 00:17:15.801 --> 00:17:25.511 back, the pool, and that kind of clutter, because we really didn't bring that to their attention until later in the case. And that concludes the 52 00:17:25.511 --> 00:17:33.051 city's presentation. You have exhibits to present. Do you have any objection to us 53 00:17:33.051 --> 00:17:47.833 submitting evidence? Ma'am, are you ready to present your side of the situation? Sir, I believe you, doctor has a question. Yes, sir. Oh, I'm 54 00:17:47.833 --> 00:17:58.743 sorry, I apologize. Does the swimming pool have water in it? It does have water in it. And the only thing they've changed was they pulled one of those blue solar covers just on top 55 00:17:58.743 --> 00:18:10.155 of the water. That's not really what we consider covering the pool. It's. Is it fully enclosed? Yes, it is secured. Yes, it is secured. Right now 56 00:18:10.155 --> 00:18:20.599 it's only a sanitation issue. We're not considering this a life safety issue because the pool is secured. Before I 57 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:31.410 proceed any further, anybody else have any questions? No, ma'am. Then if you're ready, you may present. I mean, I don't really have anything to 58 00:18:31.410 --> 00:18:43.989 say about it except for we didn't know about the actual code enforcement violation. So my sister and I, we take care of my, well, my mom now, like, 59 00:18:43.989 --> 00:18:53.965 take her to appointments and come over and check on her and stuff. And we always tell them like, you've got to get this cleaned up mainly. And I'll be honest, from our standpoint, 60 00:18:53.965 --> 00:19:05.544 it's a safety issue for our mom. She's 76. She uses a walker to get around. Like we know, emergency services has to be able to get in to her if needed. We had been taking care of my 61 00:19:05.544 --> 00:19:17.489 dad, and my parents have lived there for 20 something years, 20, 21 years, probably longer than that. We moved in in 2000. I think our dad had Alzheimer's 62 00:19:17.489 --> 00:19:26.832 and passed away in December, where my sister and I had been over there at the time for the last 2 or 3 years, like on a daily basis. And then in 63 00:19:26.832 --> 00:19:38.377 January, my lovely niece and her significant other moved in. And this is how fast it has turned. Not that it was perfect for a while before, but it was 64 00:19:38.377 --> 00:19:50.088 maintainable. And so we picked up my mom on Monday to take her into the hospital for a procedure she's having done this week, and happened to stumble upon the letter about the hearing today. Otherwise, 65 00:19:50.088 --> 00:20:00.666 we knew nothing about any of this because we've always gotten their house taken care of. My sister and my husband and her husband. And so we 66 00:20:00.666 --> 00:20:10.809 already have plans tomorrow, like, especially with my mom being in the hospital and us all working full time, we have all taken off tomorrow to go over and get as much done as we 67 00:20:10.809 --> 00:20:21.253 can. Obviously, the pool, we're going to end up draining it and getting like an actual official cover for it because we just, my sister and I just replaced their whole pool pump last 68 00:20:21.253 --> 00:20:33.164 summer, which was like a $3,000 pump. We got all the screen replaced last summer, especially after all the storms that, you know, they live right by those woods. So we had had 69 00:20:33.164 --> 00:20:44.642 the screen and enclosure and pool all up and running again, and there's just no way that we could go through that process again. So we'll just end up draining and covering it. I just have never done any 70 00:20:44.642 --> 00:20:55.520 research on that. So I need time to know, like, how do you make it safe? How do you we have grandbabies and kids and stuff, so we need to make sure it's like right now they're just not nobody's allowed to go 71 00:20:55.520 --> 00:21:07.132 out there, you know, and then, you know, as far as the inhabitants of the house, it is, they can either keep it clean or they can find somebody else to go mooch off instead of my 72 00:21:07.132 --> 00:21:18.576 mom. So like that is pretty much where my sister and I are at today. We just need time to get it to where it really should be, you know? Yes. Do you have any estimate yourself 73 00:21:18.576 --> 00:21:29.688 of how long it might take? I mean, with all of us there tomorrow, I obviously the front will get to where it is, you know, a livable space. And I've 74 00:21:29.688 --> 00:21:40.365 been talking to the the code enforcement guys this week and told them like, if I was a neighbor, I would have been complaining. Like we kind of were waiting for somebody to make it where we can officially 75 00:21:40.365 --> 00:21:50.075 tell them, like you either have to keep it in compliance or get out because like, we don't have any rights to kicking the granddaughter out, you know, 76 00:21:50.075 --> 00:22:01.787 and so it will like the front will look livable by probably the end of the weekend. But as far as like the backyard, I would, I just don't know because I need to just have 77 00:22:01.787 --> 00:22:11.997 time to like, I just talked to them about the pool. So just finding out, like, how do we safely cover it? Like how do you drain it without a pump? Because I don't know anything. I'm a teacher. I don't know 78 00:22:11.997 --> 00:22:23.375 anything about pools, so I just need time for that. So whatever you think is reasonable will make work as long as my mom doesn't get like, fined or. I was talking to her last night at the hospital about like 79 00:22:23.375 --> 00:22:33.418 keeping her commissary stocked if she. I'm just kidding. I use humor to deal with stuff. That's. That's it. Anything you want to add? I don't have any. 80 00:22:33.418 --> 00:22:43.428 I'm ready too long as it is. Any members have any questions? Would you state your name for the record to. Li LEIGH, and my last name is Smith, SMITH. And 81 00:22:43.428 --> 00:22:52.136 Linda Allen is my mom. Okay, so you're obviously the daughter, right? Just for your name, we want to make sure you it's on the record. Questions? Anybody 82 00:22:52.136 --> 00:23:07.685 else? No. Okay. Mike, did you talk about the time periods on the proposed order? Yeah. I explained to her that we want to we wanted to give two different deadlines. And that's 83 00:23:07.685 --> 00:23:19.397 in our our requested motion. That's before the board. Well, Inspector, you're much more an expert than than at least I am. Can can you give us an idea how 84 00:23:19.397 --> 00:23:30.976 long you would in your professional capacity, think it might take to. I believe I was made to clean it up. Yeah. I believe we gave down there three. I think it's three weeks 85 00:23:30.976 --> 00:23:43.955 for the initial violation and double that. It was 5 or 6 weeks for them to get the pool cleaned up is in the motion we put in there. Okay, so we're 86 00:23:43.955 --> 00:23:53.865 talking three weeks and six weeks. Yes, sir. Okay. Does anybody care to make a motion in this case? I can make a motion if you want. Go ahead 87 00:23:53.865 --> 00:24:05.710 sir. So I move that in case number 26-800000861. To find the respondent, Linda Allen, in violation of the City of Tarpon 88 00:24:05.710 --> 00:24:21.359 Springs Code ordinances 8-48-418-52 and IPMC30 3.1212.00 for the property located at 399 Dixie highway, 89 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:32.670 and to assess a fine of $25 per day beginning on August 6th and the fine of $50 per day beginning August 27th, 2026, until compliance is achieved 90 00:24:32.670 --> 00:24:42.948 and in order to respond, respondent to contact the Code Enforcement Division to arrange for Reinspection of the property to verify compliance with the board's order, I'll 91 00:24:42.948 --> 00:24:52.691 second. All right. We've got a motion and a second. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say nay. And the 92 00:24:52.691 --> 00:25:04.936 motion passes. So, ma'am, you have an understanding of how much time you have. Yes, absolutely. And we're counting on you to get it done so that we can. And I made sure that 93 00:25:04.936 --> 00:25:16.114 they know anything. Just always come to me first, because we didn't know the people that are living there were hiding the notices from us. And, you know, we certainly can understand 94 00:25:16.114 --> 00:25:26.658 that. And hopefully the situation will be resolved. Otherwise, I'll just move my mom to my house and we'll let that house go. So, okay, well, we're counting on you. Thank 95 00:25:26.658 --> 00:25:36.334 you, thank you. And we're free to go. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. And, Inspector, you have a contact number? No thank you ladies. Thank you, 96 00:25:36.334 --> 00:25:49.414 thank you. Okay. That brings us to our next case, sir. All right. These next two cases are going to be affidavits of noncompliance. So this is just giving you guys a quick update 97 00:25:49.414 --> 00:25:59.257 and then an affidavit that your board order was not complied with. The first one is case 98 00:25:59.257 --> 00:26:11.369 26-80000753 for 120 Athens Street. And it was inspected today. There's been absolutely no change. Nothing's been cleaned up. Nothing's been cut. So I have an affidavit of 99 00:26:11.369 --> 00:26:30.855 noncompliance to submit to the board. Thank you. And you guys 100 00:26:30.855 --> 00:26:42.000 should have the motion for accepting non noncompliance affidavits in your book there. Does anyone have any questions 101 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:54.245 for the inspector. Before I ask if anyone cares to make a motion. Apparently there's no questions. Does anyone. I'm sorry. I have a question. Have the people been in contact with 102 00:26:54.245 --> 00:27:04.322 you at all? No. We've never received contact from the from the owners since this began. I'm looking at this non compliant. This is a month old. 103 00:27:04.322 --> 00:27:15.133 Has anything been done since June? Nothing's been done since the initial investigation. The that was signed last month. I 104 00:27:15.133 --> 00:27:24.442 do not know why Officer Boone did not submit it at that code board. It's. But it's retroactive, so it really doesn't matter. Once the board 105 00:27:24.442 --> 00:27:41.960 accepts it, the order takes effect. 106 00:27:46.698 --> 00:27:56.875 What was the issue there? Just remind what was on Athens was a house on Athens Street was a little dupe or I think it was like a triplex and it was just abandoned. The 107 00:27:56.875 --> 00:28:08.052 mailboxes are were just like spilling out with mail. There was junk and debris on the front patio. There was grass and trees growing all over the the. It's a paved lot and it's 108 00:28:08.052 --> 00:28:19.597 got overgrowth, if you can believe that. And there's just. Nothing has been touched from the. The very beginning when we started sending courtesy letters to posting the property, it's like nobody has ever set 109 00:28:19.597 --> 00:28:29.574 foot on the property are. Our notices are still taped to the building. Nobody's ever come and touched it. Nobody's ever responded, responded to any of 110 00:28:29.574 --> 00:28:39.516 our correspondence. So at this point, we're just going to begin the fine and leaning process. Understood. And this 111 00:28:39.516 --> 00:28:49.960 would be the first step then? Well, this yes, this would be your order as a board was not complied with. So the fines will begin running, and then 112 00:28:49.960 --> 00:29:00.638 the city would lean from that point. Does anybody care to make a motion in this case? I'll make the motion. Go ahead 113 00:29:00.638 --> 00:29:12.517 please. I move in case number (268) 000-0753 to find the respondent. Luis Colas did not correct the violations on or 114 00:29:12.517 --> 00:29:24.028 before June 9th, 2026 for the property located at 120 Athens Street, and to accept the affidavit of noncompliance. Anyone care to second this 115 00:29:24.028 --> 00:29:34.472 motion? I'll second that. All right. Motion's been made and seconded. We'll have a vote. All those in favor of accepting 116 00:29:34.472 --> 00:29:45.617 this affidavit of noncompliance say yay! Yay! Any opposed? Say nay. There's no opposition. So 117 00:29:45.617 --> 00:29:57.128 the recommended motion passes. Just one more question is does this person live locally in town? Of course. But do you know where he lives? We've never we've sent everything to 118 00:29:57.128 --> 00:30:05.737 the property appraiser of record, and we've just never gotten anything back from them. Okay. Just curious. Thank you. 119 00:30:05.737 --> 00:30:19.250 Okay. All right. And our next case. Yes, this next case is 26-80000773. Very similar situation. This was before the board. The property is located 120 00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:30.995 at 1019 South Florida Avenue. It was a a pool and that was that's completely fallen into disrepair and is a sanitation 121 00:30:30.995 --> 00:30:40.405 issue. It is secured. The property is fenced. But this is another one that we've we've sent correspondence to the property appraiser. We've tried 122 00:30:40.405 --> 00:30:51.149 to track down through neighbors and reach out to this person in California. And we've just gotten no response. And so this is another affidavit of noncompliance that the property 123 00:30:51.149 --> 00:31:00.091 was inspected and it was not met by the due date. And so this is just another affidavit we're looking for you to accept. 124 00:31:00.091 --> 00:31:24.883 And the fine process will begin. I remember this one. 125 00:31:42.901 --> 00:31:54.512 So at the present time, a fine of $75 per day is in effect. Thank you. Once you. Is that right? Yes. Once you accept your order, it 126 00:31:54.512 --> 00:32:04.222 will the fines retroactively. Yes. Go back to June. So automatically from June 10th to today, $75 a day instantly 127 00:32:04.222 --> 00:32:17.869 accrues and then it's $75 per day going forward. Yes, ma'am. Is this residence occupied? No. 128 00:32:17.869 --> 00:32:26.577 Any other questions? Has it been occupied? Does anyone care to make a motion? I'll make that motion. Go ahead, sir, I 129 00:32:26.577 --> 00:32:40.591 move in case number (268) 000-0773. To find the respondent. Michael and Michelle Marlow did not correct the violations on or before 130 00:32:40.591 --> 00:32:53.571 June 9th, 2026 for the property located at 1019 South Florida Avenue, and to accept the affidavit of noncompliance. 131 00:32:53.571 --> 00:33:04.781 Anyone care to second that motion? I'll second. A motion has been made and seconded. Any discussion? Apparently not. We'll have a voice vote. All 132 00:33:04.781 --> 00:33:16.227 those in favor, say aye. Yay! All those opposed say nay. There's no opposition. And the motion passes. All right. For this next set, Attorney 133 00:33:16.227 --> 00:33:27.504 Saltzman, if you have no issue with it, I'm going to list you off several cases back to back. These are all going to be affidavits of compliance with no fines due. So I'll kind of 134 00:33:27.504 --> 00:33:40.718 give you the quick of each one, and then I'll give them all to you in one. And you can accept them all in one motion. So our first affidavit of compliance is going to be for case 135 00:33:40.718 --> 00:33:50.827 25-80000727. And this is for the property located at 1217 East Lemon Street. That property has come into compliance before their deadline. It was inspected and 136 00:33:50.827 --> 00:34:05.342 is good. The next case is 1309 Cromwell Drive. And that was case number to go two 3-255. 137 00:34:05.342 --> 00:34:16.753 There you go. I apologize, I've got it here Inspector 258000687. That is the one. So that has 138 00:34:16.753 --> 00:34:22.393 been inspected and is now in compliance. This next case is 139 00:34:22.393 --> 00:34:43.648 going to be 26-80000788. For Dra is in Our 140 00:34:43.648 --> 00:34:50.154 Drive. Thatpedavit is for2 f 130 inspected exto be 141 00:34:50.154 --> 00:35:06.504 case27 for Red inspd one is from a long ago. It's bee a very 142 00:35:06.504 --> 00:35:18.983 long ongoing case that came into compliance several y ago. But the foreclosure and a whole bunch of stuff hasfinallye 143 00:35:18.983 --> 00:35:31.362 . And this is case 21-8000002 for 603 Cypress Street. And that property has been inspected and is in compliance. So I'm asking 144 00:35:31.362 --> 00:35:42.773 the board to accept all of these affidavits of compliance in one motion. We accept all the affidavits of compliance as presented by the Code 145 00:35:42.773 --> 00:35:54.986 Enforcement Officer and listed in our addendum. I'll second, a motion has been made and seconded. Anybody? Have any 146 00:35:54.986 --> 00:36:06.464 questions before we vote? Apparently not. Take a voice vote on all of these cases. Cases four, five, six, seven, 147 00:36:06.464 --> 00:36:16.574 eight and nine. All those in favor of accepting the compliance information. Say yay, 148 00:36:16.574 --> 00:36:28.552 yay, yay. Any opposed? There's no opposition. The motion passes. Inspector. Any other cases on your agenda today? No, 149 00:36:28.552 --> 00:36:38.829 sir. That is it. That's it. All right, let's see. We need an approval of the minutes for the 150 00:36:38.829 --> 00:36:51.541 June 11th, 2026 meeting. So moved. All right, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No opposition. Now we 151 00:36:51.541 --> 00:37:04.021 get to the board and staff comments. Anybody on the board? Care to make any comment? Remember I sent an email. I was the one that said that group 152 00:37:04.021 --> 00:37:14.097 went out to everybody on how that law will pertain to us, because I figured it kind of directly impacts this stuff to do with us. That's the only comment I have. We had an official follow up on that, and 153 00:37:14.097 --> 00:37:25.743 the only thing I'll comment on is, I know I learned today, I got to look both ways because I'm getting too quick and I overlook one side and then I overlook the other side. So I'm glad everybody calls my 154 00:37:25.743 --> 00:37:35.453 attention to it. And I apologize to anybody who wasn't disrespect. It's just I didn't turn my neck fast enough. So all right, the next code 155 00:37:35.453 --> 00:37:46.029 enforcement meeting will be August 13th, 2026 at 2 p.m. And I thank all the members of the board for keeping me straight today. Let the record indicate 156 00:37:46.029 --> 00:38:09.620 that the time is 230. And this meeting is closed.