Some of the programing they have. Oh yeah. Oh. Got to be 55.
All right. My Chinese is waiting. He couldn't understand it. Oh, really? Right. Don't
have it ready until seven. And I guess we're not going to have anybody that's not. And you're okay with still having a
meeting? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, do you have to read them to us? Oh, yeah. I guess came all the way here. Man, I want to dance. I had you guys. I had to change
my clothes. I have a new member that has. But he's. He's already been through kidney shut down. He's. And I care for every
morning at 730. And then I pick her up every day at six. So I told them, just have them ready by 530. Okay. It's 630. I will
call this meeting to order. But before we go any further, since the applicant is not here, I want to make sure that it's okay
with the board, that we still continue with the item. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yeah. All right. Good. Number two. Roll call. Mr.
Burzynski here. Mr. Sprecher here. Miss Howard here. Mr. Cadena here. Okay. Public comments. I don't hear any
number for the minutes from June 2nd. Have you all had a chance to look them over? And if you agree with them, I'd like a
motion, please, to accept. I make a motion to accept, and I'll second. Okay. Any discussion? Otherwise, let's
call a vote. Mr. Cadena? Yes. Miss Howard, hear me? Yes. Mr. Sprecher? Yes. Mr. Basinski. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Number
five, quasi judicial announcement and swearing in of speakers. This is a quasi judicial proceeding where the Heritage Preservation Board acts in a quasi judicial rather than
a legislative capacity at a quasi judicial hearing. It is not the board's function to make law, but rather to apply law that has already been established in a quasi judicial
hearing. The board is required by law to make findings of fact based upon the evidence presented at the hearing, and apply those findings of fact to previously established criteria
contained in the Code of Ordinances, in order to make a legal decision regarding the application before it. The board may only consider evidence at this hearing that the law
considers competent, substantial, and relevant to the issues. If the competent, substantial, and relevant evidence at the hearing demonstrates that the applicant has met the criteria established
in the Code of Ordinances, then the board is required by law to find in favor of the applicant. By the same token, if the competent, substantial and relevant evidence at the hearing
demonstrates that the applicant has failed to meet the criteria established in the Code of Ordinances, then the board is required by law to find against the applicant, and we just want to make sure. Was there any ex
parte communication, any board members had and no conflicts on hearing this matter? No, no. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.
Number six, application number 25.50. Certificate of appropriateness to replace asbestos roof with shingle roof on the contributing structure at
26 West Orange Street, which is where in. Oh, of course. Do you swear or affirm your testimony
will be the truth, so help you? I do, thank you. Thank you. No.
I can never find it. I'm so sorry, guys. Okay. So we have application 2550. This slide
shows the location and context of the subject property in the residential office district, immediately to the west of our
special area plan in our downtown area. This slide shows the location of the property within the national and local historic districts. The
applicant is seeking a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the existing asbestos shingle roof and install a new asphalt shingle roof. The
subject property is a contributing Victorian. Here is the 1909 Sanborn Map showing the property. The Florida master
site file for the property has it listed as circa 1909, but the Tarpon Springs Area Historical Society believes that the house
was erected between 1901 and 1902 by Earnest Mears, who was one of the founding members of Our City. He was a leading sponge broker, and then the
structure was inherited by his daughter Ernestine, who was married to Colonel Salih, who was a civil engineer who was very formative in the
development of our town, notably, he supervised the construction of Sunset Beach. So that's just showing you the property on the Sanborn Maps.
And how it has had has been altered over time. Through 1926. The slide shows the subject property from the Florida master site file. And here are just
some historic photos of the property I was able to find through the Historical society.
And as you can see here. I'll
let that pass. By.
Thank you. My mic doesn't. Okay,
so this slide is my mic. No it's. No. Okay. So this is
just another one. Just note that the house whenever this photo
was taken. To the roof lines that are proposed as, as the in the application, the change of
materials from asbestos shingles to asphalt shingles would have a minor impact on the street view. And it is an important vista within our city. You know, going
down Orange Street to the bayou. So the HPV should satisfy themselves that the change to the street view is not significantly adverse. Criteria
number four is specifically about the shape and texture of the roof. So the existing asbestos roof is smooth. The
proposed asphalt shingles would be more granular. So it would be a change in texture. And the type of the roof would be changing. The next applicable
criteria would be that we always want to repair rather than replace. And the Design Review Guidelines manual provides
guidance for roofs, noting that the roof is one of the most significant features of a historic building with respect to repairing versus replacement.
You know, this asbestos roof is probably pretty old and it's asbestos. So, you know, it's also not the original material
that was on the original roof. So we want to also look at whether it's the type of proposed roof is fitting with the architectural style of the
building. So look at our presentation back. Or maybe we don't okay. So. Lost my place
again. The contributing structure appears to originally have had a wooden shingle roof, and an asbestos roof would be in keeping with the folk Victorian
style. A lot of folk Victorians within the city of Tarpon Springs now have asphalt shingle roofs. Shingles are consistent with the style talks about the
size and dimension of the material, so that would change. The asbestos tiles would be a little different, are a little different than the proposed
asphalt shingles, so they would differ in thickness. Probably not in the finish because the current asbestos tiles are matte
and the asphalt shingles would be matte as well. But then we'd also have that texture change. So we also look at color. Now,
while the HPV can't regulate color, I would suggest to the applicant that the use of brown would better better mimic the original architecture of the
structure. If the HPV approves this application. And then finally the adherence with the Secretary's guidelines, generally, the proposed project
meets the standards and generally complies with the Land Development Code and the Comprehensive Plan. And this is
just the guidelines, you know, from the review manual. So staff is recommending approval of
application. 2550. I would suggest that we include the conditions that the historic roof line must be maintained. No changes to the roof line. Chimneys must not be altered,
and that the certificate of appropriateness would expire in three years if the building permit has not been issued. And with that, I can take any questions. Okay. Thank you. Do
we have any questions for Carolyn? No, okay. And obviously there's no applicant. So I'm bringing it right back to the
board here for discussion. Questions. I think I know, but and I'm not complaining. But why did this come in front of us? If
it's a roof, is it because of the material change or what? Yes. In the land development code, that is, it is required for the HPB to review any change
of material for roofs. Okay. All right. And if we do approve this, you'll talk to the applicant about the color. Like you mentioned. You're going to
suggest a certain color. Yes I will okay. All right. And it will just be a suggestion not a condition I understand that I understand that okay. Any any
questions. Straightforward. Then let's get a motion here. Somebody okay okay I'll make a motion to accept the proposal as
stated. You know, where the roof line is not changed. And the chimneys are not to be altered, I second it. Okay. Okay. We have
a second over here. Our new member, I. That's good. Okay. We have a motion. First and second.
Any more discussion? If not, let's call roll call. And that's a motion to approve application
2550 with the recommendations by the staff. Right. Yes. Mr. Cadena. Yes. Miss Hallett? Yes.
Mr. Sprecher? Yes. Mr. Mrozinski? Yes. Okay. Number seven, board and staff comments. This doesn't have to be about
this applicant. It could be any questions about anything. Anybody have any questions or concerns about how we're moving and we're good with everything
okay. We're happy. I want to know that we're happy okay okay. Then I will adjourn at 645. Thank you so much for coming
back to that. That's the fastest, is it wasn't for the technical. I know we would have made it in ten minutes if it wasn't for that. Yeah, a guy up
there, we would. We would have been out nine. That's all right. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you for coming. So your first
one was pretty simple. It's not it's not always this simple. It's not always this way. It's not always. What do you mean? This is exactly how all the
videos. Yeah. I'll try to keep it this way for.