What is the public Art Committee? Special session agenda called to order. Wednesday, January 7th, 2026 at
City Hall, second floor, Media Room. Can we have a roll call of members, please? Yes, Miss Hickey. Present, miss Taylor.
Present is Mr. Brock. Present. Chair. Arbuckle. Present. Now, I notice we have several guests in the audience. If I could have each of you come up to the
podium and say your name and either your address if you're a resident or your affiliation with this meeting. If you're not a resident, first. Okay. Kelly Parfitt, Dauntless
Contracting we're representing the owner and building his building at 38954 US highway 19
North. Thank you. I'm Sofia, also with Dauntless Contracting. Thank you. I'm Jonathan
Kreidler and I am a resident of Tarpon Springs. I live off of Jasmine Avenue over on the other side of 19, and I'm the owner of the property there on 19, in Tarpon Springs. Super.
What was that? What was your name again? Jonathan Taylor, thank you. Joan Jennings, 2204
Pine Drive in Tarpon. Thank you. Okay, so we are here to discuss the new business of the new project proposal for the Tarpon
Springs bingo hall. I see we've gotten additional information, and the changes look like we're going to a mural on the
building. And I have a picture of the mural here. And here's the application. So is there anything that you guys want to
say before we start having a discussion about it? Any points you want to highlight or anything? Well, I think that this was kind of the consensus
from the last meeting that Sophia had. We originally had the all which we went away from, and then doing the large mural to represent pretty similar to the seal that you guys have for
Tarpon Springs, just in a different order. Maybe still some work that needs to get done on the splash of the tarpon, but I think it's
looking good. Okay. Thank you. Everybody else. I will say, first of all, I'm very I was very pleasantly surprised when I previewed the materials today
that we've changed to a mural rather than a bollard, because the bollard brought up some interesting questions about our ordinance and what we cover.
And so I'm really happy to see that change. Do I? We need to make a motion to open it up for
discussion. Okay. So do any members have any comments, questions, concerns about anything doing dealing with
this proposal. So one can I go one question while is this the what you want and what what will it go on it. There's in the materials that you got
today. There's several pictures. Yeah that have. Oh and they're up on the screen too. Is that where it's going to go on this wall. Yeah. On the in the red
red area. That's what we're proposing okay. Okay okay. Any other questions comments
concerns. It's not going to be facing us 19 though right. No ma'am. I think it was because 35 mile an hour rule. Yeah. You could still clearly see the building when you're driving
down 19. If you have you're heading north on 19. See that very well once temporary fence that fairly well. But trying to
stay out of that 35 mile an hour winds. Yeah. Are there any cracks. Yeah. Don't need any
more there do we. Okay. So when this red square, is that where you would like the art to go. Yes. There's a couple different ones. The things that Sophia
had, one that showed so you could see just 19. Oh, I see this one. Yeah. Yeah I got it. Yeah. So you'll actually see it heading south on 19 South. Yes,
ma'am. Yes. Okay. It's on the north side of the building. You'll see it heading south. If you are looking around. Okay.
Yeah. What is the mural printed on? What material? That is. So where you see the blue, the blue and the white? First two layers. That's stucco. There's
those bands that go across which this is a foam material. Then with stucco. So you I'm sure you've gone past it a
million times. If you've ever tapped on a wall with more than one. Frankly, on. Okay, okay.
Any other questions? This will be an actual painting on the wall, not an application like a vinyl. No, sir. No, this will
be an. How would it hold up to to the elements, the product that's being used, the products that are being used. How would it hold up to the elements and
years to come? Will it fade? I think kind of a tough question to answer is I'm not the actual artist, but it would be just like the other murals around it, I don't. Kelly, do you mind
speaking up at the podium just so we can record? Thank you. For me to stand up here and get my case. Like I was saying, it's going to be a little bit
difficult for me to touch on it, but it's all an exterior based. It's all an exterior paint. So what the artist will do is more than likely he'll go through
and and do a primer over it, like a primer that's going to be able to hold that type of paint, whatever one he's using. Essentially do a big square out of that and then paint over
that. He's done a bunch of murals. He's the artist that we have in mind. He's done a couple murals for UCF that are still up there today. So. And
what is the artist's name? Aaron Evans. So. That's true. It's also on the north side of the wall. So there's the way that our roof is sloped just
for the fading aspect. Our roof is sloped one way and that mural is going to be on this side. So all the water drainage goes off the south side. On the north side, we don't have any kind of it'll really just be
rain hitting the building. Won't be rain going down the side. So okay. Was the artist's name again Aaron Evans a a r o
n last name e v e n s I believe it was on. That's that's his name up there. Yeah. And. Yeah.
That's true. And for our last session, if you look in the materials there's a resume of his in there for oh I see yeah. January I believe there was a
link to his portfolio as well. Yes. In that packet. So I have a few questions. One of them
was dealing with. So I'm not sure if you know completely how how the public art in Tarpon Springs works, but we don't have a tax. It's not from city
taxes or anything like that. The funding that we get, it's from construction and new businesses and such that and
based on the amount that that costs to help fund the public art department. So one of our
major interests is to make sure that the public art is being funded in accordance with the with the ordinance and the amount, you know, versus the, the building amount and that
sort of thing. So I was just wanting to. Touch on the artist, and I see that there's many murals that he's worked on. Do
we have any idea about, you know, his, his standard rates or what he generally is compensated for these various
murals that he's done before and how this lines up with that. I don't know what other people have paid for murals. I know
that this, from what I was told by the artist, is that this is kind of standard rate per square foot. They go on a per square foot basis. So some artists might. And a little bit
of background, we're doing a project over in Trinity. There's a big mural and just getting a bunch of different artists and everything involved. We're working with. On the
other project. We're working with Matt Kress, who's a a pretty big he's a prominent artist in Tampa. He's painted all the Bucs stadium and everything like that. So I've
gotten a little bit of a background on on how the the murals work, but somebody could charge $60 per square foot and another guy could charge $600 per square foot. It's it's really which one do you want to
go with? And I'm not sure where he lines up in the, in the grand scheme of things or what he charges X versus Y customer. But I know for our project it's pretty close to that, that number that's on that sheet.
Okay. And is that how the the size of the mural was kind of calculated by the, the the amount of the cost. Yeah. It's it's so what it is, it's all based off a square foot. He's
got his material, I mean paint brushes. You know, I'm not an artist. I mean, I just built buildings. Yeah, I don't know, my motor skills aren't that good, but it's also he's
including all of the, the equipment that he's, that he has to rent. So a boom lift to get over that curb. I know for a week of renting one of those
boom was around $2,000. So not necessarily something that you can just go up on a ladder and paint. He's got to get equipment and all that. So that's factored into his material cost and also his his
time and travel. It's just like when we're doing a project that's down the road, if it's right next to us, we're not going to have as much general conditions as what we call it as opposed to if it's over in
South Florida, you know, it's going to cost a little bit more. Sure, he's not too far. I think he's in Lakeland or something like that. So he travels in between. But a lot of it is is
material cost and then his own time. Yeah. Okay. I hope that answered the question. Yeah. Yeah. That gives me a good idea
of. How all this was, was figured out. And it looks like depending on which picture I look at like this one, it looks
more up and down, but probably because some of the wall is hidden, it's it's tough to see from this angle, but it's more or less that. There's another
attachment that shows there's like this one here. Yeah. There should be. Did you send that one? Yeah. There's one that includes the actual dimensions. It looks like this. Yeah. That
should be in there. Oh the the line drawing right. Yeah. Yeah. So if you zoom in it's more or less 20, 29 foot in width by
about 17 foot height. So it's pretty substantial. Yeah. And it probably be the size of this wall plus another ten feet you know, or seven feet. Gotcha.
And for the placement did you decide on that placement as opposed to the other side. Just because of the 35 mile an hour thing or the space or we want
it to be as in the green as possible with the board. Yeah. Gotcha. It's on that side. Or if it's on the other side, if it's on the roof and whatever. Yeah, it'd be good for the
drone shots, but I don't think John actually pushed our parking lot the way it is. He's walking by and admire it.
Walking. Gotcha. I was okay. That makes sense to me. Yeah. Go ahead on the pictures because I like the color pictures, so I'm like a bird. I like the picture. Especially
this one where you got mural, right? Yeah. So that that box of mural on the picture is the same as the one on the on the
drawing, the draft, the draft. Yes, ma'am. So on the picture, it looks like windows. Is that a windows? That's a truck. Is that a truck or scaffolding or
something. Scaffolding. No it is. See the truck here. No, no I'm looking at this one. Yeah, but that's a truck. See the front of it. That's what that is. So the on the white sheet
of paper that you have where it says mural. That's right. After. Oh right where it's cut off. We have a set of double doors right there. Right. Yeah. The
truck is right here, you know, right here. See here there's the pickup truck, but this is like a scaffolding type truck. That's our. Yeah, that's what that is. That's our last vendor.
That's a pickup truck. That's a truck. Okay. Let the building. You see this one, Katie? You can see above the truck now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That's a flat surface there. Yes,
ma'am. For the most part, yeah, yeah, it's flat with two raised bands that goes around the stucco texturing. Okay, okay.
All right. Well, I'm, I'm pretty satisfied that the the value is there. Any anybody
have any comments about the content of the mural. It's the tarpon question this amount. Is that what they ask us to pay.
No no no no we're we're not it's what they're paying for it in lieu of donating money to the art committee. Okay. Yeah.
So it's but the value would be they can do their own artwork or they could donate the money based on the value of the construction. So it is saw it
over here 28,000. Yeah. That's what. No I think it was 32 2028. This is 2323 was what the fee
was okay. That was posted by the city okay. Came in slightly more but gotcha. So it's 2828. Yeah okay okay. All right. All
that looks good to me. Do we have any other discussion, public comment? Yeah. Any you guys want to add any. Yeah.
Glad you went off the ball. Yeah. Would have been the world's largest. Maybe phase two. Yeah. By the way, just as
a point of interest, do you know where that restriction about the 35 mile per hour art thing came from? Former Mayor
Lucas, who the police chief who became a city manager? That makes sense. Public safety. Yeah. That's why he wanted it moved off the main road. Yeah,
that makes sense. Public safety should come first. Okay, so do
I have a motion to proceed? Or not proceed. Bueller? Yes. Bueller? Okay, well, I'll make
a motion to proceed. I'll second. Okay. So your motion is to approve to approve the
proposal. Proposal any second. Second. Second. Okay. Can we have a roll call? Vote, please.
Hickey. Yes, miss. Taylor? Yes, Mr. Knox? Yes there are. Yes. All right. The motion passes. I'm very excited to see that.
You said that you're going to be doing a little bit of work on the splashes, but other than that, this is this is the thing. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what it'll look like. Yeah. We were trying to get this over
quickly. That's the rendering from our artists. So yeah, I look nice. I had a question how in order to get the, the $23,000 removed off of the off
of our permit fee, do I send in some kind of application to get that removed, or is it once it's inspected and who inspects it. Does this? Does it need to be approved by the board of
Commissioners? Will inform Pat and planning and zoning that has been approved here at the public art committee level. And then we'll elevate it next to the board of commissioner level.
And we'll try to get that on the next available committee or board of commissioners meeting. When's that? There's one on Tuesday the 13th. I don't know
if this will make it on that. The next one will be on. It'll be two weeks after. Is there 1 in 2 weeks from now? Two weeks
from Tuesday. So it will be the 27th will be the next one, if not the 13th. So we'll make a recommendation to add it to the 13th. If it cannot be added to
that agenda, it would go to the following EOC. If we can do it. And I don't mean to push anybody, but if we can do that for this next meeting, just because we're planning on wrapping up this building here shortly, if anybody's driven
past it. I mean, the biggest thing is the parking lot that we're planning on getting that wrapped up probably next week or the week after. And then I know that in our conversations, we weren't going to issue a TCO
or anything until this was done. But as it stands right now, if we can't get it approved until the 27th, we're going to have a building sitting there until it's finally approved. And then
that's best case scenario. We get it approved and then we still have to get the artists under contract and for him to paint it, which could be two, three weeks after that while the business is just sitting.
Is there any way that I understand that the the time frame is short and, you know, you guys want to move with urgency, so we will notify, you
know, our counterparts who, you know, put the items on the agenda for board of commissioner meetings, that, you know, there's a time sensitive issue, and we'll ask them if it can be added to the
13th. Okay. Yeah, but we can't do any I can't guarantee that. Okay. We'll let you know as soon as we hear back and definitely relay the sense of urgency. All right. Well I
appreciate everybody. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming in. Nice meeting everybody. Thank you. Nice to meet you too. Good luck everybody. Thank you. Thank you.
All right okay. So we're moving on to staff committee and public comments and announcements anybody. But I
had a comment okay. John Jennings 2204 Pine Drive, Tarpon. I saw that the Steven Oliver sculpture was moved from
the Cap Center to Dorsett Park. I think it looks very nice there, but my one concern is that there are several panels that seem to be missing. I could be mistaken, but there
doesn't seem to be one for Billy the Kid. Emerson, who was a very famous musician who was one of the pieces. I don't know if where that's gone. And also
missing is the wi fi wayfinder sign that Steven Oliver did for the Dodecanese, and it had the City of Tarpon Springs public Art committee, all of the, you
know, acknowledgments. Plus I think was the American flag, the Bahamian flag and the Greek flag. And nobody's saying, yep,
there it is. Yep. So where is this? Right in front of the right, to the left. Yeah, there's a few in the water over
there. Okay. But it's okay because I drove by several times and I didn't see it. Okay. It's right down to an easy.
Yeah. Okay. If you know where the dolphin is. Yeah, I know that dolphin. Right. Like, just come forward the street from the dolphin and it's there. Oh,
okay. I didn't see it because I wasn't driving too fast. Not you Joe. Yeah. Okay. Great. I'm glad it's there. It's a beautiful piece. As far as the
panels, I know that there was discussion about them having to rework it to fit in the space and all that. I'm assuming that they worked with Steven on that,
but I'm not sure none of that came through. I know. Yeah. Here. So I was just wondering, because there were seven several prominent panels that seem to be missing. Yeah. The first one that really struck me
was Billy the Kid. Emerson. Yeah. Well, you know, I wonder if if that couldn't be something that is donated to the Heritage Museum or something, we can inquire about
it. I know I had checked on some panels regarding the other bohemian art piece that is in Dorset Park now, and that's what I'm talking about. I think it looks great. It really does.
But you know, we we didn't get a response back in all of the panels that the city has in their possession were used on that on that piece. And we did
find the piece with Mr. Dorset as well. That was on on the art as well. But the only pieces that should be missing, as far as I know, are the Archie families. Right, that were
removed by Steven Oliver. Right. Yeah. If you could just check to see whether the Emerson. Absolutely check again. Yeah. Okay. Speak on that as well. I thought this wasn't going to be
a meeting to talk about it, because I was going to talk about it at the next. Yes. Yeah. We're a proper agenda item. Yeah. We're going to be talking about it at the next meeting. So yeah, because there. Okay. Joan. Yeah. I asked that
question about the missing panels as well as at the last meeting, which we're going to address it at the the beauty we'll address at the next meeting. Okay. But well,
they're not missing. They were moved at the people's request. So that's exactly right. And we had no I understand that completely. The one that. So as far as the missing panels, there's going to be questions
that I'm going to be asking at our next meeting regarding that same the the structure of it up there. A couple of panels need to be moved around, but I don't recall seeing one for Mr.
Emerson. Oh yeah, Megan just showed it to me. The one that was at cap. Yeah, the one that was at cap had a mr. Emerson on it. Yeah, because Megan just showed me it's there. Yeah. Oh, it is on the panel. Okay. This
is one of the nicest ones. You've got a record. It's like a rock and roll thing. Yeah, that's really cool. Well, if he's up there, then he's he's. Yeah. Then he's up there okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. Anything
else? Nope. Okay. Then we will. The our next regular meeting is Wednesday, February 11th at 2 p.m. here in the second floor media room in City Hall. And we
will adjourn at 2:24 p.m. February 11th February February
11th at 2 p.m.