Of the Tarpon Springs Public Art Committee meeting to order at 2 p.m. On Wednesday, July 9th, in the second floor Media room of
City Hall. Megan, can you please call roll? Miss Taylor here, miss Hickey here, miss wood here. Chair. Art Vitello here.
Also, I'd like to acknowledge the guests. Could each of you come up and state your name at the podium, please? I'm pastor
Stanley Everett, Royal senior. Okay. I'm pastor of Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church here in Tarpon Springs. Welcome.
Thank you. I'm Holly Langston. I'm the sustainability coordinator for the city of Tarpon Springs. And I have Christina Cole here with me. She is the sustainability intern.
Fantastic. Welcome. And I'm Jamie Taylor, recreation superintendent. Welcome. Okay, so, approval of meeting minutes.
Was that the okay, the last one in. Excellent. So, do I have a motion to approve the meeting? Minutes from our special session
on June 25th. I'll make a motion that the minutes from the special session on June 25th be accepted as read. I. Second. Excellent. Can we have a roll
call? Vote? Taylor. Yes. Yes. Yes. Excellent. So the next order of business is a
presentation for the Storm Drain Mural program. All right. Is this already? Yes. And there's handouts. Okay, perfect. Okay, well, thank you for having me
here today. Again, I'm Holly Langston, the sustainability coordinator, and I just decided that. Not decided. But, you know, a lot of the sustainability coordinators and
people that are kind of in my role in other cities and counties around the region, you know, we network and we talk about kind of the programs that we're doing. And a lot of our neighboring cities have storm
drain mural programs. So I brought this to the Sustainability Advisory Committee last month or at our last meeting, which was actually May, not June. And they supported very much and said,
the next step, let's take it to the public art committee. So I want to bring this idea to you today. All right. So some this is what we'll go through today. Some examples of our neighboring
cities that have programs. Why the city of Tarpon Springs should consider doing this. Who would be involved. Funding and recommendations. So some nearby cities with storm drain mural
programs, of course, Dunedin, which is very proximate to US safety Harbor, another small city, Clearwater, Pinellas Park, Saint Petersburg, Tampa also has one. Anyway, it goes on and on.
But the big question is why? Right. So I think that these programs are really cool because it's the intersection of art and also public education. So it's a fun, visual way to engage the public in conversations about
stormwater litter, pollution, why it's important to keep our the stormwater drainage system clear, right. So that litter and other pollutants do not end up in our waterways, because all of
our streets and neighborhoods are directly connected to our waterways. And obviously, Tarpon Springs has a lot of water. So we want to make sure that we're educating people about the importance of being good
stewards. All right. So who would be involved? This is just kind of an idea. This is a, you know, conceptualization of what the program might look like. So sustainability division would kind of maybe be the overseer
coordinating and managing the program. Obviously sharing it through all of our channels and then public works. So I have been you know, we've talked about this with Tony and the stormwater Division. They would
want to designate the acceptable drain locations and sort of talk about the maintenance requirements concerns. And that would all be, you know, delineated, obviously, before we initiate the program itself. But
they are in support of it. And so and would be, you know, I think a great partner. And then you all the public art committee as well as the cultural arts staff, we're here today. Obviously, part of the ask part
of the discussion is funding also to ensure that the program meets the goals that the public art program has and how you all want to manage a call to
artists. If that were to be something that was pursued as well as, you know, what role anyone would want to take in the review and sort of oversight of the artistic process, who else
will be involved? Obviously the artist, the volunteers, whomever was coming in to apply to be involved in the painting process. And I think also our new public information officer
would be a great asset in this program. Definitely. Okay. So funding we don't currently have any budgetary funds available in the sustainability department. Stormwater, you know, there are
some some grants, many grants, but there's just not one open right now that we could apply for. So I said, you know, to get the program going, we just need support for the program. And
funding is also part of that. So it's definitely, you know, a lot of our neighboring programs either provide the materials for free so that the residents or the artists that are volunteering do not have to,
obviously, you know, pay for that, or they designate a stipend amount to cover those materials. I want to say it was maybe like $300 or something or not, but one of the other cities. So the question would
be, you know, can public art funds be designated and used for the supplies or designating a material stipend? If the committee were to support the creation of this program? So
that's kind of the big the big ask in addition to can we do it? Can we fund it? And then I made this table of just comparing some of the ins and outs, such as the costs from our
neighboring programs, just for you all to have kind of a basis of understanding. There are subtle differences between those programs, but they're all pretty similar in the sense of like how they, you know, manage the
program, how they orchestrate it, what the requirements are. I'd say Saint Pete is the big like. They're the scale of theirs is much larger than any of the other ones. And of course, all the other ones are
more, you know, similar to us in size as far as population goes. But just, you know, how who they designate to be a paint, to be a painter, essentially any, you know, an artist of all skill levels, all ages, you know, very
open, very inclusive. And then what's the after, you know, commitment. And I do think that that's an important part of the puzzle is just having the person that is painting it to continue to be involved as like a steward
of that particular, you know, location and just help spread the word and, you know, touch it up, make sure it continues to look nice. And obviously, again, we would work out all of the,
the details of how that what the requirements are, you know, as it went forward if it were to. So just some of the recommendations that I think are important from other programs
have a required theme. So many of them require that the painting be adheres to something like only rain down the drain or, you know, a catch phrase related to litter prevention or
protecting water quality. And this, you know, committee or however you want to designate it in the program could we could provide stencils or like a list of acceptable phrases so that it's not really there's not a
lot of guesswork. Right? We just kind of keep it keep it very straightforward. A requirement to include like native flora and fauna. So, you know, fish and other wildlife that are actually present here in our waters in
Tarpon Springs would be really cool to kind of localize it. And then the second recommendation is just to make sure that the process is clear, you know, from the from the outset, from the proposal, the application
through the completion, and again, what involvement would be required on after the project is completed. And then just the final recommendation is do it as a partnership. Right. So
collaborating with residents, with students and with artists, I think it creates a great educational tool. It does help address the city challenge that is reducing the litter in our stormwater system. And it
beautifies spaces that are kind of underutilized and underappreciated. So I will leave the presentation with this beautiful picture of one of the newer drains in Dunedin. I think
these were painted this this spring. So they are just completed this year. And the artist is a local artist and her name is Elaine Furman. And she said as a local artist, I find endless inspiration in the
vibrant flowers, plants, sea creatures and graceful birds that make the state so unique. Living here has strengthened my connection to the environment, and I believe it's our shared responsibility to protect the ecosystems that surround us all.
This mural serves as a gentle reminder of how our everyday actions impact the health of Florida's waters. The message is simple let's keep pollutants out of our storm drains so that rain and only rain nourishes the
land. For me, art isn't just about creating something beautiful, it's about sparking awareness and inspiring change. I hope this piece encourages viewers to treasure and preserve the natural wonders we're so
lucky to call home, so I think that applies as well to our city. And, You know, the inherent value that we have in our natural systems here. So that is that is the
presentation. Thank you so much for listening. And just considering, you know, being a partner in moving this forward and potentially funding it, I'm not sure what the next step is. Public art Committee goes
through and discusses. I'd like to also mention that a couple years ago we did a drain program with the Girl Scout troop, and that was done a couple years
ago. There's one at Craig Park. There's also one by the dog park. So they did two. Okay, so that it was a great program and
they were nice and colorful. The only thing is, is I think, you know, in hindsight, we probably would need to go ahead and set a time for them to be, you know,
at that location for like maybe a year or two, because the one at Craig Park, with all the trucks going in and out and cars and everything, it's just kind of like it doesn't look very nice now. So maybe they'd have
to be redone, you know, like maybe once every two years or something like that, just to kind of refresh it and, you know, put something new there, kind of like they, you know, renovate murals over time, you
know, whitewash it and then start over with something else. So that was just a suggestion. Just from what I'm seeing happening to the one at Craig Park. But it did have a similar theme, and it was really pretty
when they first, you know, put it in there. So Don, if you would like to do the discussion. Yeah. Do we do a motion first or do we just to do you want to
consider it? I think maybe what you might want to do is you might want to go ahead and put in your, you know, opinions of the program and then decide whether you want to accept the program or not, and then take
the vote, okay. And see if we have any other questions. Okay. So. Does any of the committee members have any comments or
questions or discussion about this project? Yes, I like it. I think it is really a nice way to
preserve the water and. The unclothed, the oceans and the critters that live in that water. And I really like the
idea. Okay, I also like it. And if it if it's passed, I'd like to volunteer to work with you all. This is the storm. Drains and stuff are real pretty, and it's probably ways that we can
can preserve it by the materials that that you can put over it. So in cars continuously run over it. You won't have to change. Or maybe you can just put something
over to maintain it. And you did mention that students I like the I like the idea that students would be given opportunity to submit their drawings. Kids
would be be able to do that. And these are all city owned drain storms, right? Because I know when I first got on this committee a couple of years ago, I thought it was kind of a weird
project that I was told that I can I can do on a mural, and that was Mark LaCour. I love the guy. He was a he was a riot. He said one of the projects that
you can do, Miss Taylor, is find your buildings in the city that you can put murals on. Just find a project that you can put murals on. It's not a building, but it's a drain storm. So I
would I promote this and I look forward to working with them if that's the case. Okay, great. When I was looking through the materials before the meeting, the emailed materials, I was
extremely excited to see this project. It's my hope that this committee can encourage a lot of community involvement. And I
think that this is a fantastic starting stepping stone to doing that. I would really like to see a lot of community involvement in this. And in in your
presentation where you were showing the artists from the other cities that did it, there was a lot of students, schools, community groups, neighborhoods,
stuff like that. And that really, really appeals to me as well. In addition to that, it really ties into a few months
ago there was school contest, a poster contest that that was about water sustainability and stuff like that. And I think that I spoke with the gentleman,
the art teacher who was head of that, and he was really excited to work with the public Art Committee on future projects. So I think this is a fantastic
first step, and I'm very excited about moving it forward. To the only question I have. And I was looking for my ordinance for the public Art committee, and I
could not find it at home. So I'm not exactly sure what kind of parameters we'll need to put on it in order to get it to fit within that, but I am dedicated to finding it and looking
through there and making sure that that we meet those parameters. But I am wholeheartedly in favor of moving forward with this. As far
as the funding, I don't see any reason why we couldn't provide materials or a stipend for materials, but that, you know, we can further discuss that when we get into the details. But I'm
in favor of moving forward. I have a question. Holly. How many? How many drains have the water department? Have have they gone ahead and, you know,
designated they have not designated them yet. So I think that would just kind of be a separate discussion as to, you know, their concerns as far as viable locations and what, again, the maintenance would be.
Some of the city's also pre-clean the drains before the artists come, which I think would be probably the best approach, just so it's done properly and thoroughly. So just kind of setting out those steps
and having the locations identified. And I think, you know, maybe the public art committee wants to stipulate how many we start with. You know, maybe it's three, maybe it's five. And but I think obviously
having them in visible areas is good. The one thing that I will say, Tony mentioned to me is, you know, neighborhoods might be a little bit, I guess, more
challenging as far as what if a neighbor didn't want that in their, you know, area for whatever reason? I don't know, but that's just something to consider. So, you know, my thinking, though, is visible. You know, again, like you were
saying, if there's one been done in Craig Park in the past, splash park, you know, places where people actually do walk and can see them and interact with them is kind of part of the point of it. So I would just
keep that as a as a point of reference. What you can do is you can talk about like how many you want to start with, like, let's just say you said, all right, let's let's start with six to start with. And then you
can also decide whether you want to give them a stipend, like for instance the $300 that. But that would specify that it would go to towards any supplies or
whatever, you know, for them. And then you can also we can also reach out to local groups, not just schools, but also like women's clubs. You know, the
rotary different. Exactly. You know, all different groups in Tarpon Springs that might want to go ahead and submit, you know, an art, you know, design,
you know, for it. So that would be the case. We would go ahead. You all would decide how many, what the stipend would be. And then Megan and I will work with you on doing a call to artists.
And, you know, we'll get it out there and then we will set a deadline for when those art designs would be submitted, like, let's just say, you know,
for your next meeting. And then they would, you know, we would get all of those and you would vote on them and which ones you wanted to do with your 5 or 6, you know, locations. And then in
the meantime, Holly will work with them to decide, you know, the locations and bring that to you as well. Does that sound good? Yeah, that sounds great. You have a question? Yeah. Go
ahead. On the on the actual drainage, the different variations. One is on the curve. Sure. One could be in the middle of the street. That's right. So I think this is where I would kind of default to some of the
experience experiences that the other cities have had, which is how to manage, just like you're saying, you know, if it's a if it's a non decorative drain cover and how you would paint
that so that it's part of the mural so that if maintenance has to happen it can be lifted and put back down. It won't mess up. You know the art itself as far as painting. Most of them say, you know, they don't allow the
painting on the street. So you might have seen in the Dunedin one, that kind of goes to the edge of the curb, but it doesn't even go over the face of it. And then the other thing that I
would say to consider is if it's a materials stipend that you all decide on, I think that's fine, but we should we would have to stipulate in the program what those materials are. So they typically use the very durable
like curb painting paint essentially. And then there's a seal. So you know we would want to make sure that we include details if it were someone else buying it. Or if you want to fund more of a kit that the
artist could check out. That's kind of how some of the other cities also handle the mechanics of it. Gotcha. Question. Yeah. Go ahead. I want to make sure
I'm clear on the call to artist. I'm kind of new at this. So as far as the call to artist, we just said that we can utilize some of the schools with some of the kids giving their ideas and
drawings and stuff. It might be a person that doesn't have a license, just happened to be a super good artist, and they just want to surrender a drawing of how it might look. So now when you do the call to artists, are
you when you call that artist, are they going to be utilizing this, the document that the draft that the person submitted, they're going to be recreating
that that image. So yes. So basically what the group or whoever does it, whether it's a single artist or if it's a group that's submitting it, they're going to go ahead and submit a
drawing that is really specific to the finished product, you know? And so then what we're we're you're what you're voting on is that yes, we do want this
drawing, this, you know, design to be put on the drain. So it can't be just like an idea. It's got to be a kind of a finished, you know, product that, you know, some kind. Well, just like
what you're seeing there. That was a design that was submitted, you know. And so it's it was specific. So they can't just say, well, I think you should go
ahead. I my idea is just to do maybe some sharks, you know, swimming. They have to actually submit a drawing that they would actually want to reproduce. Does that make sense. Yeah. And then and then figure out the children
part because this one is an adult and one is a child. So if the child is submitting the image they're going to submit it to the council. And then we will say, yeah, we like this, this
particular one. Now, is it going to be an adult artist that's going to transfer that image onto. Yeah. And that's what I was meaning by the ordinance. You know, I want to read through
the ordinance and make sure that we're fitting in there. But, you know, public art isn't in my mind doesn't necessarily have to
be fine art. Art, you know, has has a lot of different. Iterations, you know, like kids do arts, the poster contest and all that kind of stuff. And
groups, as long as they submit what they're proposing and we as a committee review those and vote on which ones are approved, and then it's a recreation of
that, then that's that's what I'm seeing. So it could be a neighborhood, a group of neighborhood people that get together. It doesn't necessarily have to be an established group. Yeah. As long as it fits in the
parameters that we set forth as far as what the requirements are like, like she was saying the theme or you know. Yeah. So I mean something that is submitted by like say a grade of like
seventh graders, you know, or you know, is not going to be the same as something that comes from our Tarpon Springs Art Association, you know, which which are you know, they they do
all kinds of art. And there would be a lot more detailed and, you know, sophisticated. But, you know, the children's art is just as important as the professional art, too. So it's
just that they have to give us, you know, what it's going to actually look like. You know, that part I understand, but I guess I'm I'm still missing once that child, let's just say a
seventh grader submitted their artwork and we say, yeah, this is what we like, let's go with this seventh grader art. So that seventh grader, are they going to be the one that we that's
going to paint it? Right. Exactly. I was going to say, yeah, I think you can probably again refer to we can pull some of the other cities, you know, how they manage that. If it was,
say, a minor, do they need to have I'm sure they would need to have an adult there on site with them, their painting in the right of way, essentially just for safety concerns. So they're going to maybe the application would stipulate, yes, you would
need to have an adult sponsor of some kind. That kind of goes through this process with you. And there the child can still do the painting, but to have an adult there just kind of supervising, you know, there might be just need to specify
that. But I don't think that it should exclude, you know, again, students or, or amateur artists from being able to be the ones applying the paint, in my opinion, in what I've seen other cities do. But that is for you
all to decide on. Yeah. And that's my thought too. And you know, if it's a seventh grade class, maybe they'll pick, you know, they'll come up with something and their class will pick it which one they want to put forward, and they'll all
work on it. Who knows, you know. But Girl Scouts and Girl Scouts did it, you know, it was there were multiple painters. There are multiple kids painting. So
but of course the adults were there too, you know. Absolutely. And you know, for like the schools or the, you know, groups like Boy Scout, Girl Scout, whatever, you know, they will
need to have the supervising adult or adults involved, of course. But yeah, I think that would fit into the parameters. So probably with the call to
artists we would first have to get then, you know, the number of drains, the locations and everything. And then we would probably take some photos of each location and attach that
with the call to artists so that people can see, you know, what locations are available. And then also you'll have to decide like, okay, well, if there's let's just say you do six and
then there's people like a particular spot, you know, they'd have to say, okay, this is my first choice. Second choice for locations, you know, kind of thing. And then you'd have to decide who's going to be
assigned to what location too. So you have a lot of decisions. Well, and I and in in my mind I would say we pick the locations that it's going to be. And we say part of the application
process is, is what what tie do you have to this location? Is this in your neighborhood? Is this by your school? You know, something like that? Because I would prefer that that somebody
pick a particular location for a reason that, you know, their family goes by there all the time or whatever. You know, it's by their school. Or you could also do it as a matter of when they submit, you know, the,
their artwork. In other words, it's like like a first come first serve. It's like, okay, well this one we're we're submitting and we would like drainage number one or something like that. So then because yeah.
And then we can just say, you know, okay. Well the rest of these are available when another one comes in, you know. So there's a lot of ways. Yeah. And I, I also propose that when we
do pick one that we actually give them like like this one here is, you know, a particular shape. And we want to make sure that it goes in that shape. So we would give them a template.
You know that this is the shape and these are the dimensions of it. Right. And you know they can submit their smaller. But when they paint it it will be that size. But they'll know and will know. You know, they send us a
square and it goes on here and a lot of cool stuff is cut off. You know, we don't want to do that. So yeah. And okay, so any
more discussion on moving forward. No okay. I just had it in my head. So I know that our
next meeting is we're meeting quarterly now. So I, I don't know that we're going to get all this stuff nailed down super
quickly. But you know, if we set some of the parameters on things that we need to do in the meantime, as far as getting the locations from the city and, and that sort of thing, then we can
move forward. But I think right now we could do a motion to proceed with the project and maybe put somebody in, assign someone, assign. Yeah, assign someone in charge. So if there's
no more discussion, do I have a motion to proceed with the project? I'll make a motion to proceed with the project. A
second. Okay. Do we have a roll call? Vote, Miss Taylor? Yes, yes, yes. And who is going to chair the project? Yes. So, do I
have a motion or a volunteer to be the liaison? I'll be the liaison. I will be the liaison.
Anybody else? Okay. I'll back her up. If she put it like that. Okay. So. So do we need to move on that? Do we need to do a
motion on that? I don't think so. I don't think so. Okay. So Mark is going to be the liaison and Katie is going to back her up if she's unavailable to do
any of the meetings as the liaison, you will meet with the sustainability group as it moves forward. I believe the next steps will need to be getting
the locations. We need to talk about all the parameters. I don't know, I feel like I need some time to think about all the different things that we need to think about, to go into it, and
maybe at the next meeting we could finalize all that. In the meantime, if everybody could. If you come up with some parameters based on the presentation and
other things that we've discussed today, email them to Diane and Megan. And we could you could disseminate that and we could be prepared for our next meeting to have a list of
all the things that we need to discuss so we can give you some guidelines on, you know, working together with them so that you could do some things before the October meeting so you can bring
that to the. Thank you. Excellent. So I think we're moving forward. Yay. And as we as we move forward, we'll get more information about costs and
stuff like that. So and that will be Martha's party. Awesome. Thank you so much for putting that forward. It's very
exciting. Very exciting. Okay. And that's this is okay. So the next order of business is old
business. The budget update and developer contributions. Megan okay. So the public art committee's starting balance at
September 30th, 2024 was $173,984. Revenues through July 8th, as of yesterday, is
$38,145. Expenditures through yesterday, July 8th is $1,788. So our projected balance as of
yesterday is $210,000 and three, I'm sorry, $210,341. Okay. And then I also got. The two
developer contributions, which basically the revenue is $16,942 for Papa's RV storage facility
on Greenville Road and $14,918 for Tarpon Lake Business Park on US 19. Okay, and then one last
thing is Pat McNeese and Renee Vincent wanted the public art committee to know that. There
was state legislation. Legislation proposed this year to prohibit the collection of public art fees. And that was
Senate Bill 482 and companion House Bill 665. And they did not pass. They did not pass. That was from developer. Yeah. So
these were general bills covering certain miscellaneous standards for impact fees, development permits and development orders. So it did
not pass. All right. Okay. Good. Awesome. Good to know though that stuff like that is out there okay. So the next order of
business is Dorset Park coach Rudy mural vandalism issues. Yeah. We've had some a lot of problems with the mural that was
put up for Coach Rudy. And you know, we've had some things. We've repaired it and replaced it twice. And it continues to
happen. So. We removed it completely. You know right now because we really not sure what the solution is, you know, kind
of thing. So that's that's a shame. Some discussion on that. Yeah. That was a project that I was assigned to. So I didn't know all the every time it was
vandalized, I wasn't informed. So now that I know it has gotten to that crucial point, when we first put it on the table, I think I suggested that we put it
behind a plexiglass that's mounted to the wall, because that that type of material that's being put on that wall, that that mural is made on, it's
bubbling when the sun because it gets over 100 degrees here. So that material is bubbling off the wall. The first time it happened, the paint was not, I guess wasn't adhered. So it kind
of bubbled up. A kid must have went by and started ripping off the mural, and then the second time the it basically did the same thing. It started bubbling.
So when we first did it, I asked, can we put it behind the Plexiglas on the wall, put it back up, put it behind the Plexiglas. When you screw it down on all sides and see how
that goes, because I don't think it's going to bubble up. And if anybody puts something on it or right on it, it could be wiped off. It can be maintained, but at least give it another shot at
the first idea that I put on the table to put it behind plexiglass. The problem is, and I'm just going to throw this out just because, you know, just
because you do plexiglass, you know, that, you know, plastics is like if somebody takes a sharp object, scissor or a knife or anything and just, you know, you're going to be able to
scratch that up. And so that to me is that makes it even more expensive because it's like we've already placed the mural twice. We then put like a frame around it to, you know, maintain
the edges and then, you know, the, the level of vandalism, you know, the second time has was, you know, not great because it was, you know, something that
was part of the female parts, you know, and it's like I seen it, I took a picture. So I know exactly what you're talking about. I know it's just kind of like, I, I don't know, it's like
we can try that. But, you know, I just I also felt like maybe it would be better put in a different place, you know, different location or something within Dorset Park. I mean, the
whole point is to, you know, have it there, you know, but imagine if you put it out in the field. I've heard little tidbits of putting it out in left field, putting it behind third base or
somewhere out there. Even if you put it out there, somebody go out there and spray paint it. It's not not everybody going to go out there all the time to pass by to even see it. So you're not even going to know
what's being done to it unless somebody reported. But on the wall, all I'm asking is for the first. The suggestion to put it behind plexiglass is to give the first suggestion a try. If this
fails, then yeah, maybe we can talk about relocating it, but I'd like to at least give the Plexiglas a try, because if the vandalism, it has to stop.
There's laws against vandalism, and parks are working hard now to make their staff is working very hard to make sure that kids are being less destructive of
Dorset Park. So we would like to give that another shot for it to go right there on that wall. Jamie, do you have any insight or anything that you've talked to anybody that's gotten any
kind of. Again, my name is Jamie. I appreciate you guys revisiting this topic. Appreciate Mr. Royal being here. I assume Coach Rudy's family
member came last name. All right. So I appreciate that piece of, you know, maybe get some input as well on on
desires. A couple of the another thing that wasn't mentioned just here is last night it's letter C on the agenda today is the movement of the Bahamian art
sculpture. It's going to be in that grassy field area in that triangular format that you guys approved a few weeks ago now. So that will impede on the vision
and the line of sight from the street. The insurance has or will cover the $4,500 or whatever it may be, to redo the
mural on the wall as it has been done. Plexiglass. It's going to be probably 3 to $5000 to get a custom piece that will cover
that, that, you know, I'd ask for public art funds to, to help out with. I think if we go this route, I think the discussion
should be had now of, okay, if vandalism occurs, let's say it's minor, not a big deal. Okay, cool. But if vandalism occurs,
what would be that next step. Because you know. I don't I'm not an insurance guy, but I don't think they want us coming back on the same item in the
same location with the same, you know, so, you know, that's not the look we want to go for. A staff recommendation was banners on the outfield fences. I
understand that aspect of okay. Well yeah, that that's great 300ft out there and you can't really see and get the message across. I would suggest if that
happens in the future or now, we do it at multiple different fields. So over at Dorsett, over at the Boys and Girls Club. But yeah, if, if it's going to be placed back on that wall, I
absolutely agree with you, Miss Taylor of let's go ahead and do it properly with the plexiglass day of, you know, so there's no chance for vandalism on the art
and on the structure itself. And, you know, see how we do. But again, I think, you know, having family here that may be interested in commenting might
help us out with that decision or any other ideas. There was a member of the public that made a recommendation to put. Like a
big sign outside of the ball field, kind of like you'd see going down the highway a billboard. Thank you. We're talking about some serious, not serious dollars, but I would
estimate 15 to 25,000 just because you got to get the engineers for wind load and all those things. So, you know, great idea. Love it. But it's not going to it's not as easy.
I'm buying, you know, some concrete and four by fours and we can put it up no problem. You know we do have some other things to consider there. So that's my piece on it. Thank
you. Question Jamie, on one question, Jamie, you mentioned about the line of sight, the sidewalk, although you put that off when you put that other structure up there, the line of sight is still visible because
the sidewalk is there and you're walking right next to it. Yeah. And, you know, to that point. So it may be blocked a little bit from the street, but it also may become this kind of like haven
of sorts of. All right. Yes. Now this corner is multiple pieces of art within that park and visible. And it really sets the tone for the park as well. So it's not necessarily a bad thing
either that there's another historical piece that touches on the heritage within the community. Thank you. So I, I have a question that might be
for you. I know I had to I had to grab you back. Is there something precluding us because I'm my thought is if it's at the level of people walking by, then
maybe that's kind of encouraging this vandalism, but have we thought about putting it up higher instead of like a billboard? Is it possible to put
it on top of the building? I wouldn't suggest that. Just one the elements to you're not going to get the visual aspect. It's not going to come out clear. I
don't believe just because it would be on shingles and, you know, no, I mean like stand it up like it already is. It takes up the entire. No, you're you're saying like something above, you
know, 12ft high or something like that. Well, on the roof, on the roof, you know, same size as it is just on the roof, maybe putting some, you know, slots in
it for wind and all that. The recreation guy I don't know too much about building on top of the roof structure itself. I don't personally feel that would
be esthetically pleasing, but that's just me. I, you know, I'm not even, you know, so that's just how I feel about it. And also the additional aspects of
okay, you know, I'm going to go back to that 15 to 25,000 minimum for doing it in that kind of fashion, because we're going to be securing things to the building. And, you know, we
get wind and, you know, we have to just be able to be up to all standards and building specs and all that. But I just cross my mind, you know, something out of reach might might help it. But,
you know, then we're constrained by, you know, where we want it to be and where it can go and cost and all that. I got another thought. So on the other side of the building, there's a little
plaque that has information on on Coach Rudy and the impact in the community. Just thinking outside the box. Maybe there
could be. A look towards a different. Way to dedicate that building towards Coach Rudy or something. I don't know, I don't
want to get away from the initial art rendering that was created in, in, you know, assistance by the family as well. But I'm just throwing it out there. Well, and I wonder if
we did decide to go with the plexiglass, maybe we could combine that with some sort of public messaging, almost like peer pressure not to do this, like getting the community
involved and saying, hey, you know, this is this is our heritage, this is our culture, respect it kind of thing that is
like community driven, maybe. I think if you put a sign that says, don't park on the grass, that's where I'm going to park. Yeah, well, I'm not saying don't don't mess up the stuff. More
specifically, you know, isn't this great that we have like, yeah, a positive campaign, not a don't do this, but a positive campaign of, you know, just kind
of instilling more respect for whatever or peer pressure is really what I'm going for. Peer pressure of the community to not. And I know bad actors are
going to do bad things and you know, but yes, Megan McIntyre, City of Tarpon Springs, Tarpon Springs resident I've been thinking about this a lot. And
there's an elementary school right across from the mural and where the sculpture is going to go. Coach Rudy was amazing. He coached incredible teams like
the softball team did huge things nationally. So my thought was if like, we can start with the kids here, like the peer
pressure of when the kids are proud of something, but they, I don't know, like they the kids that are there at that school, they might not even have gone out and seen like they see the
mural, but they don't know the context. So if we could do like a community outreach to the school and maybe the gym class, like each gym class, like first graders could go out with their
teacher. They look at the mural, they talk about the impact that the coach had, the teams that he coached, the people that he coached. Second graders go out and so that each class can go
out and actually have dedicated time with the mural. Learning about Coach Rudy and the amazing things that he did in the community. And then same thing
when the sculpture gets moved to Dorset Park, the kids can actually be invested in, it can go out and look at it, they can touch it. They can like, learn and know what it is and
celebrate the installment of it. And then they're not just walking by it, going whatever, you know. Right. So that's more of a PR kind of campaign for.
Yeah, not just fundamental but top in elementary and the other schools in the neighborhood because there's other schools. Yeah. Cops and kids. Yeah. Well, and maybe we could I don't know
how involved this would be, but maybe we could do like a do some of those and then make a TikTok video out of it to, you know, put out there for, for the young
people. But yeah, I think, I think a PR campaign would really be helpful. And I don't think it would be that expensive if we had buy in from the schools and,
you know, could do something like that. I think that's a great idea. Any we'd like to hear what, Reverend Royal has to
say. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you for acknowledging my brother in this community. I appreciate
everyone's thought in terms of doing something positive. And I think if we cooperate and graduate, we'll be able to come up with some solution. But I do understand things being cost
effective. But I think education will be the key for the community to let them know what the mural is about. The
plexiglass would definitely be a help in terms of the elements that even damages the art, but in retrospect, if we do that, if
you all do that, rather it would be another option later on if it does not work. But we must educate people first in terms of
that. You know why it's there. Yeah. Because really I you know, I've been gone for 50 years. I'm the last son of the family and I've been gone for 50 years and
I've moved back in the area. But there's a lot of things you all have done in the community really motivates me and appreciate the history that's behind it. So we would
appreciate your efforts. We won't be too. Any problematical for you, but we'll cooperate and graduate. Anything we can do to help the effort going forward.
But I do like the idea of putting the plexiglass in front of it to see give it a shot, because the spot was picked. After we went through some
debates about what we need to do to honor my brother. So really appreciate it. Thank you, thank you. So one last thing on the
plexiglass, I, I seen some plexiglass that's put up that, you know, a year later is all yellowed and scratched and that kind of thing. And I'm, I know we've got a lot of technology
and I would just say that I would, that I would entertain putting a little bit more money into it. And if we had in
combination education programs like we've been talking about and also a material that. Will
weather better than just like the cheapest Plexiglas that we can get. You know, I don't know if thicker ones so that it could be buffed down might, might help for scratches and stuff like
that. And I'm no expert on any of those materials. But before we move forward with plexiglass, I would really like to explore the different materials that are possible and pricing so that we
can get something that that will mitigate some of the issues that we've talked about. Yeah, I think we can come up and get some ball, not ballpark specific
numbers and options as far as plexiglass and. Ask those specific questions about the weathering. And yeah, absolutely. You know, the other
aspect, it will absolutely protect it. And, you know, I think the first time it was vandalized, I think it was a bicycle, the handlebars on a
bicycle was going by. And that's how it started. So I remember, you know, it's not always this doom and gloom or, you know, bad intentioned things. But, you
know, I think, you know, look at it and come up with really sustainable, you know, option would be great. And you said you guys meet quarterly. Now for the
time being. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we, we will absolutely have numbers and options for you for that next meeting then. Okay.
All right. So any other comments before we okay. Do we have a motion to moving forward. Any
motions I'll make a motion that Jamie be allowed to give us. Get pricing on the types of Plexiglas and the discoloration
of Plexiglas and bring us back a quote to see what we can do to. Best quality plexiglass over the mural at Dorsett Park. Okay. Do
I have a second? I second. Roll call. Vote, please. Miss Taylor. Yes, miss. Hickey? Yes, chair. Vitello. Yes. Okay. Motion passes. So we'll be looking
forward to those that additional information in October. Do I also have a motion as far as the public education outreach, how
we might move forward with that. Or I know that there's a lot of there are a lot of articles about Coach Rudy. And of course now we have a family member
here, too, so we can get a lot of information, you know, to and maybe put together, you know, something that we can take to the schools. Yeah. Jamie. Yeah. And in addition to that. So
we're going to be moving the Bahamian art sculpture over there. And then we'll get a, a placard that stands up that, you know, people can see a little bit about and explains a little
bit might be a good idea for. All right, the murals here on the wall, you know, 2 or 3ft over, we have a description and, you know, next to it. So any
passerby can go, oh, this is what happened. This is the impact. And, you know, the decades of coaching and x, y and Z. So that might be another piece where it's just like, all
right, right there. It's something you can learn while you're looking at it. Sure. And I think that the, the public education about Dorsett Park and
the artwork that has been put there could be married between the two pieces and be a coordinated effort there. But,
you know, the entire community. So I'm, I'm not sure if that is something that we would do if we would contact the you know, I
think in working with the new city's public information officer and utilizing the city's social media accounts, that will be one way to get the word out.
But again, doesn't cost anything to reach out to the schools, to get with the cops and kids and say, hey, let's let's make this the lesson plan for the week.
Cool. So how about we come? Yes. I'll maybe thinking if we can have a liaison from the Art
Council, coordinate field trips with the school, with the different schools, but also have, like Reverend Royal to be a part of the field trip. So you can tell about that. When we
have those field trips, we can talk about that. He's also familiar with the Spongers, so he's a top tarpon. So it's different things that we can talk about that he can give the
history. Yeah. But it's coordinating field trips with the schools. So we will make sure that we're there and what's being told and shown. Yeah you can do that. Totally independent
of the public art committee too. You know once we do that. But you could also reach out to the area churches as well. I think that would be good as well. If it would be, it would behoove
and be beneficial if the public arts could committee could be a part of it to say, give, you know, give announcements in churches and say, this is something that we're going to be
sponsoring and working with because people will come if we do that. Yeah. So do I have a motion to move forward with that? As far as what what I'm
seeing is we'll put a motion forward to proceed in that direction and appoint a liaison to start information gathering and reaching out to people about
doing these field trips and coordinating with other interested parties. Do I have a motion for that? I'll make a
motion that we proceed with the educational campaign and to reach out to churches and
schools and, and proceed. Do I have a second? A second? All right. Roll call. Vote, please. Yeah. Because I'm already kind of working on it. I wouldn't mind working with it if Reverend
Royal would be okay with help working with me to do the school presentation. You know, the field trips. I was going to do a voluntold thing after. After the
vote, but, yeah, that's that's great. So roll call. Vote on that, Miss Taylor. Yes, miss Hickey? Yes, chair. Yes. And,
Katie, did I hear you volunteering for the liaison position with that? Yeah. The reverend, are you willing to work with me on that? Okay, Katie, I have an idea for you.
It's like we can take the painting that, you know, and we can make that into a coloring page. And for the lower grades, they can color the mural, you know, kind of thing that's on
the wall. They can have their own coloring page. That would be really that would be super for the kids, the younger kids, I and I could if somebody gave me a digital, I could make that
into a coloring page. Yeah. Super easy. Did that with one of the books I illustrated that can give you a digital. Yeah, yeah. So that would be terrific. I
know most of them that I saw when we were, you know, voting on it and all that kind of stuff, parts of it were cut off and stuff like that. So if I could have just a clean. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. That overall to get a little package together of what the, what, what the presentation would be for the kids. Sure. Absolutely. If we could have that together for the October meeting, then we can we
can get it moving forward right pretty quickly and hopefully get it a combo with the with the relocation and yeah, make it
happen. Super. Okay. So next next old business is the relocation of the sculpture currently at the Citizens Alliance for progress. I see
we've got a budget sheet and a project budget sheet. I printed it twice because the first one was a little smaller and very tiny. Second one is bigger. Yes.
Thank you for that. It's just on two pages. Yes. Okay. We'll take that one. Okay. Jamie, would you like to get us started on this?
You know, there may be a little bit of sticker shock, but I think that the total was. What is it, around 15,000 or so to move the structure. 1111 okay.
11,000. You know, it's again, times are different, you know, and it's not just all right, we're going to pick it up and move it over there and drop some
concrete. You know similar to that. You know, fencing or, you know, the idea that I brought up earlier, those numbers were put
together through our project administration department here in the city. I did talk with rod and he said, yeah, that that's where they're at. You know, I might be able to, you know,
squeeze a little bit, but the reality is it's going to cost some money to move it. I think the reality is. A good amount of
money was spent on the piece of art in the first place. And I think this is just one of those costs that will that that's necessary to have it really find
its place and land where it needs to be and be appreciated by the community. You know that. That's my piece. I can try and answer any questions on the
specifics, but again, the recreation guys, so, you know, I'm playing kickball instead of doing the engineering stuff. Well, I have a question. I don't
see anything on here for like beautification around it or anything like that. Is that part of any part of the plan or would that be a separate. That would
probably be a separate piece of it. I don't think that would. Be something that the city couldn't just incur. You know, that that
may be able to be taken care of internally within, you know, a one of the budgets for, for the parks or something like that. But, you know, there was
different discussions on walkways and I believe the walkways and all that should be included in that number to move
it. Also installing conduit. Yeah. Work breakdown lighting I didn't I didn't what what I'll do as well is I'll reach out to
rod specifically with that question, and we'll get that answer to Diane and she can forward it on. And then if there is an extra expense on there that that can be added. But, you
know, Rod's he's a sharp guy, and I don't think he would have forgotten aspects of it. So I think we're pretty accurate with that. 11. Yeah. All right. Do we
have any discussion from committee members? No. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve the
budget for moving the sculpture? I'll make a motion that the budget be approved for the relocation of the sponge sponge
project. That's on the corner of MLK and Gross Avenue to Dorsett Park. Do I have a second? I second? Excellent. Roll call. Vote, Miss Taylor. Yes, miss.
Hickey? Yes, chair. Vitello. Yes. All right. Well, thank you all very much. I have a 3:00, so I'm right on time for that. Okay. Thank you for your help. Thanks, Damien. Thank you. Oh,
thank you sir. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Look forward to seeing more of you in here as it goes forward. Thanks. See you in October. Okay. So new
business which is this first one is kind of new old business but anxious to get it moving forward is the illuminated art boxes. I
have talked with Diane a couple of times about taking that over. You guys are liaisons for a couple of things so I can help
out with this. I think we need to talk about a new timeline and how we're going to proceed forward. I think this particular project, and one of the reasons I'm kind of excited about doing
it, is because it's already, you know, I don't have to reinvent the wheel on this one. It's an established process, which we might tweak to be a little more streamlined. But I know I've
gotten an email from a local artist that is very anxious to get the call to artists, and I've been keeping her updated after every meeting, and I'm sure there's others out there
wondering about it too. So I would like to get that moving forward. Do we have any
discussion about timelines? Not a timeline, but I do have a question. Well, not a question, but a concern that Commissioner
Cooley Coolio's PK Peter, put forth the last time we were discussing the these are these boxes, illuminated boxes. He was saying that some of them didn't
light up. So is it is it are they driven by solar or are they some kind of battery powered light in there? They were solar, but now they've been hardwired to the street lights. So that
should not be an option, a problem anymore. Okay, but I'm glad you brought that up because there was also the email that he sent about having historical
photographs or something there. And while I appreciate his sentiment, that's not really the public art committee's purview, and it is a public art committee
project. So I would, you know, while we can encourage artists to maybe turn an eye towards the historical, although we've had a little bit of an issue with that in the past, I would prefer to
stick with artwork because it's less controversial and we are the public art committee, not the historical society. So I, I understand what what he was
recommending. I just don't think it's appropriate for this particular project and what it was created for and how it's
viewed moving forward. So any other discussion on that? Yes. I agree that it should be artwork, and I've had several artists
from TSR ask when this is going to happen. As soon as I said I have joined the public art committee. They're like, when are we going to submit artwork?
So I definitely agree it should be artwork. Okay, great, I agree, I agree as well, because when you start delving into the history of that of that area,
you're going to dig 20 years beyond some of the pictures, so you will start touching base on it would be a variation, right, of yeah, I mean, if somebody
wants to put forth some artwork for consideration that happens to be historical in nature, we can always consider it. But, you know, it needs to be artwork,
not historical photography. This history has to be all history. Yeah. And there's a place in Tarpon Springs for historical projects, and I think that we
need to stay in our lane when it comes to art projects versus historical projects. So is that something that we need to vote
on? Wouldn't hurt? Okay. So do I have a motion to limit the illuminated art boxes to art projects, excluding historical
photography? I make a motion that we limit the illuminated art boxes to artwork as opposed to historical photography. A
second perfect roll call. Vote, please, Miss Taylor. Yes. Miss. Yes. Chair. Vitello. Yes. Okay.
So timeline, I would like to. If I'm the liaison for this project, then my inclination is
to work with. Since Diane is leaving Megan and you know, and whoever else is going to be moving into this wonderful
position that we get a process call to artists ready to vote on for the October meeting. One thing we can do is I might have already sent it to you, but I'll
send it again is like, I can send you the call to artists that we've done in the past. Yes, I've gotten that. Yeah. And then. We can also just send you everything that we've got in our
files, you know, just so we you can set it up and then maybe bring it to the October meeting. Okay. So you all can see and vote on that then. And one thing
that I would like to do is and we can vote on this next time when we're voting, or we can vote on it. Now, I would like to encourage, as part of the public
outreach and public involvement in this is to encourage the schools to be involved and maybe designate ten of the there's 40
right. 40. Yeah. So maybe designate ten to schools who wish to participate maybe reach out to the art art teachers in
the in the schools to have them submit and just designate ten for school generated applications. Is that something that we would vote on or I mean,
that's something you can do. You can go ahead and make that recommendation. When you bring it back to the public art committee, you know, and just, well, you can have everything already set out, you know, the
theme and all that. And then so then after the October meeting, we'll just hit the ground running. And I will tell you that public works, you know, they're very busy during the holidays. So November through
January, they are pretty slammed with decorations up, epiphany taking decorations down. So their request to me is like, you know, so basically we you can
put the call out in October and then have it maybe, you know, but they would not be. And then you'll be voting on things to probably, let's say October,
November or December in January, which is perfect. And then that way they're done with their big projects. And so once you decide on, you know, what artwork is
going to go in all 40 of them, then, you know, we can start that process and then have it up early spring. So yeah, I think that's a great idea. So yeah. So
let's we'll come back in October. If anybody has any recommendations about anything involving that, if you can go ahead and email them to Megan
and we can discuss it at the next at the October meeting, get it all moving forward. And then between October and January, we can be doing the call to artists, the submissions, and
then January we can vote on the on the artwork and get it moving forward, and then spring will have it installed. Just a reminder, you know, because we're not meeting, you know,
monthly, you know, just recall the Sunshine laws. And that's why I like when we get like an email from us, we always say, please do not respond to this and you just respond to us individually. It's just the
sunshine laws. You know, you have to we have to abide by, you know, all the boards and all the committees have to do it in the city. So, you know, I just want as a reminder, you know, you all
have I think Megan's, you know, email. So just respond to her individually, okay. One other
thing. Well, now it's gone. It left my head. So I'm sure as soon as we call the meeting adjourned, it'll come back in. But I would like to encourage
anybody that because we are only meeting quarterly right now, we've got one more meeting before the New year. So if you have. Oh, I remembered if we have anything that we want on
the October agenda, how do we go about doing that? Email. Megan. Email. Megan asked to have it put on the new business. Right? Okay. Perfect. So if you have
any projects that you want to consider, do keep in mind that any public art being put up. If you have a proposal for a specific thing, need to have it
okayed through the city manager's office. As far as the location before we start discussions, is that what we had decided on? It also has to be a city property, right? It's not
can't be private property. Right. And but the city manager's office would flag that like that's we can't do that there. But is it possible to I guess there's way too many for
them to just give us a list of city properties that we could do that on, or. Well, in your binder, your big binder that from the start, there's a few maps in there, but they're kind
of hard to read, really hard to read. So I am actually trying to start a folder of like, just I've been driving around and like taking, you know, like
looking at places like and yeah, like that would be fantastic. Something could happen there. I think that that would be really helpful to, if we're putting a
call to artists out to say, this is it, or, you know, if we coul, I know for me, if I have something in front of me, it will trigger, oh, we could do this, we could do that. Just
having a, you know, any city property, I don't know what city and not. And I have tried to look at those maps, but everything is like that big. I think what Megan has is a great
idea too, is like, maybe from this time to like October, she can go around and, you know, take pictures of different locations with the address and everything and then bring it to you, you know, at the next
meeting and then, you know, maybe you can decide, you know, what priority you want to. That would be that would be great. But we can also vet them with the city manager first. Yeah,
that would be really helpful. So that we know if it's if it's viable and then, you know, for me personally to say, oh, you know, do you have any projects
you want to do is very ambiguous for me. But if there's a particular location and there's a picture, here it is. And here's where it's located, it's a lot easier to say, oh, what
might be great there? You know, before we had talked about kinetic art or benches or something like that. So I think if we had that kind of photographic information would
be super helpful on moving forward, because I know in January, you know, we might be looking at projects for the New Year kind of thing, and to have that would be super helpful. And
please, you know, just go ahead. You know, if you know other people that you think might be a great fit, you know, it's like there's three of you. So the problem is, is that somebody's
gone or sick or, you know, whatever, we don't have a quorum, right? If one of you is missing. So we need to get more people on public art, you know, and not just, you know, and keep
in mind when you're you're thinking about people, too, it's like they should have some sort of artist background or understanding or appreciation of art or, you know, some kind of
background, just so that it's not foreign, you know, kind of thing, you know, to them, you know, kind of thing. So you can, you know, move things forward because now you all have projects, you know, so the more
projects that we bring, oh, that's a great idea. Now who's going to do that. Right. Right. Because we have to be mindful of the time, you know, resources
that we have available. Oh would it be okay if a call to membership is put in a newsletter? For sure a club.
Yeah, absolutely. And we also do it on our social media. And we also, you know, put it on our Tarpon arts. We do a monthly newsletter. We'll put it on included on that too. You know,
just because you know, you have to go ahead and go to the clerk's office and you all know the drill. So, you know, it's like resident living. Yes. And you have to be a Tarpon Springs resident. So, you know, but I
know you all have friends and, you know, and acquaintances and things like that. So just, you know, think about it. And I had a line on a couple and both of them were like, yeah. So but you
know, a lot of it is people don't know what's involved. It sounds very intimidating. I know when I first applied for it, I was like, oh, I'm just a graphic artist. Do I qualify? But, you
know, I think it's important to have as many voices as as we can get here. So I think putting it out more now, Tarpon Springs happening, would it be appropriate for me to go on in
there and say, hey, I'm the chair of the public art committee, is there anybody that would be interested? This is when we meet. This is what we do. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah.
That's fine. Okay. Yeah. My suggestion to for the three of you, like, just Google public art and click on the images. Or if you're on Instagram and you
know how to search a hashtag and type in Florida public art and just like explore the galleries, like, because it will open your
mind to not just murals or but like, you know, think because like, right. We don't have a lot of it doesn't seem like we have a lot of space to put. So like,
you know, thinking of small footprint art that like it's like mighty like small but impactful. Just so just, you
know, looking at other cities and their inspiration and utilitarian, I think might be really helpful. I know having walked around Tarpon Springs a
little bit, I, I always think, you know, this would be a lot more walkable if there was benches every once in a while or, you know, a shade shelter or something. And those are kind of
things that we could we could look at too. And I know kinetic art and stuff like that. So be thinking about that. I would like to have have all three of
us come to the meeting in October with a few ideas to think about once we see the location, the locations, and
like just a visual representation of actually what we're talking about and have make sure that they're city property and we can move forward
from there. Get that information in October and hopefully get get some projects in the works. And the January meeting, assuming we
have the resources to do so. So all right. Any more, I have one other thing on, on the on the new ideas. Can we have like a hope chest because as we know
she's got sustainability. It's a lot that she's going to be facing. I'm going to be working with you know, Reverend Royal, you're going to be doing the illustrated boxes and the
naiads. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think that probably in the January meeting, perhaps the one after that. But, you know, we
can start talking about future projects for the 2026 calendar. And then what we and you know, saying this is our wish list. Wish list of projects, you know,
is a starting point. That way when one is finished, we'll already have one in the hopper to move to next, with the understanding that, you know, it may be a little while before we get to it. You know, depending
on the resources that we have. But I would really like to get moving in that direction and have some in the hopper getting ready to go. It's kind of like a strategic plan, you know, it
doesn't have to all be done in one, right? If there's anything I've learned, nothing here moves very quickly because of the sunshine laws. Like we can't discuss it outside. So everything has to happen here,
which is, you know, the thing that I'm discovering is having having this stuff already saying, oh, next time we're going to talk about or bring ideas about helps us move in
that direction a little bit faster. Sure. Anything else before we move to the new business? Be. Okay. So new
business. Motion on that for you to handle it. Did we do a motion to handle the illuminated art boxes for you to do it? Do we do we need a motion? Do we do we only need a motion for the boxes
to be art and not historical photos? Okay, so do we need a motion for dawn to be okay? So do I have a motion to myself to
be in charge of the illuminated art box? Somebody else has to make the motion. Do I have a motion? I make a motion that Dawn is chairman of the.
Illuminated Art box Project. A second roll call vote, please. Miss Taylor. Yes, miss. Hickey? Yes, chair. Art? Yes. Do you
want to do a vote then on who is running the educational program? Because we did not. We didn't vote on that. We said Katie will be the liaison, but we didn't
vote on it. Okay. Do I have a motion to have Katie be in charge of that? I make a motion that Katie is in charge of. I
second roll call. Vote, please. Miss Taylor. Yes, Miss. Hickey? Yes, chair. Barbatella. Yes. Thank you. Perfect. Moving on. New business B is repair for
naiads fountain. I have a update on that. Okay. It has been repaired. Oh, good. Yay! Yeah. Every once in a while, the
fountain, you know, because it's running continuously, it just decides it doesn't want to do it anymore. So. So actually they the Public Works Department has
taken care of that for us. So thank you. Public works. Excellent. Yeah. So we're good. Super. I just want to let you know that, you know, that does require, you know, maintenance
ongoing you know over time. So they do a great job of, you know, taking care of it for us right now in the future. Who brings that forward with the public art public works say, hey, something's messed up. We
need to fix it. Or they usually would call me and say, we've got a problem. You know, with the fountain, you know, kind of thing. And okay, so we would hear from city liaison about
that. Okay. Fantastic. Thank you for that. Moving on. Staff committee, public comments. Our public has left. So. Staff
comments. Yeah, I just want to say I'm retiring after ten years with the city on August 6th. Congratulations. So it's been a pleasure working with all of
you, and I'm sure I will watch you on TV moving forward. And just thank you for your service and your dedication. We really
appreciate it. And I'm going to miss my staff, going to miss working with you all. And I know you'll do great things and beautify Tarpon Springs. So thank you very much and I wish
you all the best. Thank you. Thank you. Been a pleasure working with you. Thank you so much. I got Megan. Yeah. Thank
you Diane. Oh, right. And Tarpon Springs Tarpon Arts. Actually we're going to be announcing our our new season 2526. It's our
40th anniversary. Wow. And we have a big kickoff on Friday of this week. And then you'll see our brochures everywhere. So, you know, Megan, if you if you're not around City Hall,
you'll see them around City Hall. So pick one up or Megan will bring some to the next public art meeting. But we've got a really exciting season, you know, coming forward. And I
think there's something that you all will like. So it's all good. Yeah. Great. Okay. Committee comments. Well, one on on my
part, I want to make sure we get a, a draft of the, of the mural so I can try to put that package together. And also can we get some kind of maybe a draft of a
flier or something I can present to if I talk to a school, something I can present to them to encourage the field trips. Yeah. And I think maybe you'll
work with, you know, Megan, the, the, you know, the family members to get, like, a little history. Yeah, I'll do that part. But I want something that can talk to the school. I want
to be able to give them something to say what we're doing. Well, I think if you can get us the information of what you want on it and then send it to Megan, then we can put something together for you. With
the photo of the mural and everything. Because that. Yeah. So if you give us the content and we'll put it together for you. Yeah. And if you wanted to put the content, you know, get
the content together, this is what I propose and send it to Megan. And she could send it out to us for, for comments, you know, then by the time we meet
in October, you know, we can we can move forward with it. But, you know, make any additions or or recommendations or whatever. But yeah, I think you and
whoever you work with on that will, you know, can can get the ball rolling with the information that you'd like to see presented to, to the
students and, and field trips and stuff like that. And then we can. My suggestion to Katie would be to look at it two different ways, like with your different audiences, you know,
like something that the kids would understand that's real basic, you know, kind of thing and kind of like just, you know, and then something that's a little bit more detailed for adults, you know, kind of thing.
And just, yeah, just kind of have like two different versions, one for the schools, one for, you know, adults or different civic groups that you might want to, you know, present it to because I'm sure you could
even present it, you know, like some of these clubs and things. Sure. As, as many places as we can get the word out, because what good is having this artwork
there that pays tribute if nobody knows about it or understands it? And, you know, I think I think the personal public outreach that we've been talking about is going to be really impactful. And keep in
mind, we do have it on our Tarpon arts under public art, you know, on our website and everything. But, you know, people have to go there, right, to read it. You know, we have the map of where everything is
located. So yeah. And you could probably get a lot of the content from there, like as a starting point and just decide how, you know, how you and whoever in the community that you're working with want to just
it's just going to be for the mural and the sponge Project. Yeah. So far. Yeah. Dorset Park right? Yeah. For Dorset Park focused right now on Dorset Park
and Dorset Park. So our next meeting will be October 15th. Is that is that our next meeting? I think it's October 8th. October 8th. Yeah. Down the bottom there. Yeah, at 2 p.m. Yeah,
it's a Wednesday or Mr. Wednesday. Wow. Okay. Okay. Any other the guidelines as to how
to contact people for the locations for the drainage and everything. If I assume that can just be emailed to me. Yes. In
fact, we'll give you her information and you can work directly with, you know. Holly,
Holly, Holly. Langston. Yeah. Great. Because she has, you know, she's been working with the water department and things like that. So, you know, so I would just go ahead and, you
know, maybe set up a meeting with her and work all that out and just kind of see, like what a baseline is for, you know, like the amount of money that
they would need in order to do the space, you know, kind of thing. What some of the other she probably has information on some of the other cities. Okay. There's also a guy that I talked
to who was with the city that kind of coordinated the poster contest that the students were doing, and also the art teacher that I had contact with. And I'll send you the information,
the contact information for those two gentlemen. And you can, you know, reach out to them whenever you're ready to, you know, coordinate with schools.
Okay. Great. Thank you. You're welcome. You with that? Now, any of this information I should send to you and you send to
Martha, is that correct? Okay. So any information that we want to go to the committee, send to Megan, and then she'll disseminate it because we shouldn't email each other. It's
a convoluted way to do it, but it has to be done. Well, I understand, you know, you don't want back backroom dealings and all that kind of stuff. So I understand the purpose. It's just very cumbersome. Exactly.
I'll get fired for. Right? Yeah. Abiding by the sunshine, right? Yeah. I would like to say, Diane, thank you so much. You
have been so helpful to me through this whole process. It's been an adventure. It's been very empowering, and it's been very exciting for me to be involved in the community in
this way. And I'm thankful for, you know, the, the, the help that you've given me. And I'm excited to move forward. And I hope you're, you know, in town to see all the fun things
happening in in years to come. Yes. Thank you very much. I appreciate you, I appreciate yo. All right. Closing procedures. Anybody else have anything to say before we close up? Well, I
wish we knew about this before we today. We could have brought you a cake. Oh, right. We're having a party. I'll email you the party details. Okay. Great.
I'll be there in spirit as I'm flying to Colorado. Yes. I have a wonderful time. Thank you. Megan is going to have some separation pains. I can see it. I know I'm a little. I have a phone number. Oh, you guys,
you're not really getting rid of me. I'll be around. Good. Yes. Okay, so our next regular meeting is Wednesday, October 8th, 2025 at 2 p.m. Here in the
second floor media room. Public is welcome and we all need to be here. And we will adjourn the
meeting at 3:28 p.m. On Wednesday, July 9th. Okay.
Fabulous. Great. Diane, I hope you get to.