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member. She's a couple just a couple minutes away. So. The
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meet you, Martha Hickey. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. No, no. Sure,
everybody. Was just like it was. It was to be able to see the sea. Good. Give me a hard time.
Yeah, yeah. Hi. She don't even know me to put that word. Always gotta remember. Thank you.
You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Would you like a
water? I got an extra. One. When the. We have one more member that's coming. Hi. Thank you.
Congratulations on your inauguration. Inauguration?
Yeah. Thanks. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So I guess I'll have to say, I guess so. We're not. We're
indoctrinating you with this. Yeah, yeah. Do we get to catch you up? Yeah. Yeah, sir. Well, we're waiting on that last board member. Would you mind checking your mic? And we'll just make
sure you're loud enough down there? Yep. Can you hear me? Testing. Testing? Oh. Testing.
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Okay. Okay. Thank you, I can see Alex. Are we okay? No, I haven't heard her voice saying she's on
her way, but still. I took a picture of my watch. My heart rate. I'm not like running. At
all. Mr. Mayor, how are you? Okay. Yes, yes. You know, I'm still at my. Thanks for your patience, ladies and something. Days now. Squirtles, I don't
know, somehow I lost something. I've got far less than you. And I was doing it before you. Yeah, but you crashed, like, halfway through when you were doing it, and then you had to restart again. Yeah, because you lost.
So I've got. Yeah, but you're way faster. Wonderful. New time. Yeah I did, I got to choose last night. That's always fun to see
all those letters turn over. Congratulations. So I didn't know you knew. By the way, we
grew up one street away from each other. Oh, okay. But, yeah. Okay. These recording. Okay.
Okay. Not still going through my brother feel in between the time. Good lord. Yeah. So I
mean, I know. He was really cool. Yeah, but every day we were, we were telling you that a bald eagle landed in our tree in
my yard, and I was on my side, and I was like, oh, my God, we'll be right back. That's amazing. That's cool. No I
don't. Ted. Well, I remember the minimal amount of scrolling. So you pronounce it. It was a lot
of whole world. You get off
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right. Yeah. Are there. So sorry, guys. Okay, we'll get
started. This is the meeting of the public Art Committee on Wednesday, April 9th, beginning
at 2:16 p.m. Since we have not elected a new chair as yet, Biba has had resigned a couple weeks
ago. So I will go ahead and conduct the meeting today. And later on today we will select a chair and a vice chair. Before
we get started, I wanted to introduce to the other public art members are very new member Martha Hickey. And Martha, if you could kind of tell us a
little bit about your background. Is this song? Yes it is. I am president of the Tarpon
Springs Art Association, which is. Oh, okay. I'm president of the Tarpon Springs Art Association, which is a club
that has about 60 members. And we do art exhibits and. Have demos and, you know, art things,
like we had a tent in the Fine Arts Festival and my background, actually, my education and my career background had nothing to
do with art. I fell in love with art and photography in Arizona, sitting on a mountaintop on business. I was out there and I took the afternoon off and went,
and I was on a mountain top doing sightseeing and realized I needed a camera. And that was about 20 years ago. And so since then, I have taken photography
courses, and I am a photographer and I do abstract painting, and I really enjoy being president of the Tarpon Springs Art Association, because I've met so
many wonderful people and I've learned so much from all the creativity that I'm involved with as being president of the
Art Association. Of course, to your right is Katie Taylor and Don. Don Bartolo as your fellow members. So welcome, Martha.
We're really glad to have you. Can we have a roll call of the members, please, Mr. Bartolo here, miss Taylor here, miss
Hickey here, miss wood here. Okay. We have quite a few guests here in the audience. Would you please stand and give us your
name? All right. Thank you. My name is Lisa Benitez. I'm a lifelong resident of Tarpon, and I'm with Sister city of Tarpon
Springs and the president. Great. Thank you for being here. Good afternoon. My name is Diane
Porter. I've been living in Tarpon all my life. I remember we used to square dance on that stage. And you know what? It was so much fun. It was. It was fun. But thank you for having me
today. Thank you for being here. And getting formally introduced. Hi, Joan Jennings, a relatively new resident of Tarpon 13 years,
but I have been on the art committee for six years and was chair for most of it until I had to resign for health reasons. But I'm still interested and I'm
looking forward to all the fun and good things you guys are going to do for the City of Tarpon. Thanks, Joan and the staff. Would you please
introduce yourselves? Yeah. Brandon Routh, marketing operations manager for Tarpon Arts in the city of Tarpon Springs. I'm Jane Taylor,
recreation superintendent. About the Robertson project. Administration department director and public works
director. For project ten. And our guest in the back. Kevin Darby. I work for Parks Parkway. Fantastic. Thank you. And we have some very special guests
today that are going to be we're going to be introducing shortly. But I just wanted to bring to your attention that we have two meeting minutes to be approved.
The November 13th, 2024 and approval of the minutes for January 8th, 2025. Do I hear a motion to accept the minutes as
written? I move. Thank you. Do I have a second? Second? Thank you. All in favor of approving the minutes, please say I. I thank you. All right. So we'll
get on to our our presentation. Very exciting. Cindy. Tara, Penny is here. And with the artist Jeffrey Smith. And then
also on zoom we have Mr. Richard Buck. So I'll turn it over to Cindy. Thank you so much, Miss Wood. Good afternoon. My name is Cindy Trapani. I've met some of
you, but not all of you. So it's a really a pleasure to be here today, and we appreciate you taking the time to hear our presentation. I am with Terra Panty Planning Strategies. I'm a land use planner. I've been involved with the Morgan Group
for quite some time on this project, but today we're here to talk about a public art project. And as you know, a developer has the option of either doing an art project on site or paying
the fee in lieu. And Morgan Group has traditionally in their communities, added an art project, a public art project to their community. And so they wanted to do that with this site
as well. So that's what we're here for today. Joining me today is Jeffrey Smith, who is the artist selected by the Morgan Group. And he'll be speaking in a few minutes. And also on zoom is Richard Buck. He's the senior
vice president for Morgan. So if you have any specific questions about Morgan's commitment or their obligation, I'm sure he'd be happy to answer that as well. Just to give you a little bit of background, I believe Miss Wood
would be familiar with this, but probably not the other members. I don't think you were all were on the board at the time, but back in February 2022, after the project had been approved, a
group of Morgan staff and myself attended the public art committee and we talked about our proposed location for the public art, which is the same location that is proposed here today, which is at the entrance
of the clubhouse. And at that meeting, the committee found that location did meet the requirements to be publicly accessible. We're going to show you some site plans. There are some site plans in your packet as well, but we can talk about
that in a minute. But it is in an area that anyone can visit. The artwork will be located outside the clubhouse, so it will be available 24 over seven for anyone who wants to see that
artwork. So once the that the publicly accessible location was approved, Morgan began to develop the concept for public art on the site. And from the very beginning of the design of the apartment project, Morgan's
goal was to embrace and preserve the natural features of this 64 acre site. Located on the Anclote River. It's, we believe it's the largest vacant site in North County that has yet to be
developed. One of the most important environmental features that Morgan protected was an eagle nest along the Anclote River. Protecting the eagle nest was just one of many significant features that were protected in
this site plan. Just as an example of the entire 64 acre site, only 12 acres will be used for buildings, parking and other improvements. The balance the 52
acre balance will remain as passive, open, active and open space and recreational amenities. I think. I think I will go to the. I guess we can't
go to that till later on, but maybe we can come back to it. But in your packet you have a drawing. Maybe I could hold it up so you can see it. There is a drawing that shows the location
of the artwork if you want to turn to that. So on the left side of that paper on that page is US 19. The southern driveway to the project is shown at the
bottom of that page. So you can the public will be able to come in to that driveway, turn into the circularity of parking, and then you see the little red or large red arrow points to a circle to the right of the
sidewalk just before you go into the clubhouse. So that entire area is open to the public. So we envision folks that are coming for an event. Maybe their friends are hosting a party, or a baby shower, or wedding shower
at the clubhouse, or any some sort of event. They would be able to see the artwork. Although the site is gated, the gate is way back further. It's about 250ft east on the
property, so it's completely open to the public at the point where the location of where the artwork would be placed, the eagle sculpture will be placed on a pedestal in that location.
The artwork is intended to be visible for all pedestrians, so the bottom of the pedestal will be in the 4 to 5 foot range that we're still they're still tinkering with that a little bit, and then the eagle
sculpture will go on top of that. So the idea is that people of all ages and all heights will be able to easily enjoy the artwork. We believe the proposed location meets the publicly
accessible location, since it's outside of the building available to the general public, and it would be viewed during the code requires that it be able to be viewed during normal business hours. This artwork
obviously will be available 24 over seven. It will be internally lit from the bottom of the sculpture, so it will be visible every day of the year.
As you can see from this submittal, Jeffrey Smith is well qualified as an artist on many large scale public art projects and private commissions, also evident from his resume and photographs of his sculptures.
He's clearly an artist of serious intent and ability, with many commissions and works in permanent museum collections, including the Saint James, the James Western Museum in downtown Saint Petersburg and the Vatican
in Rome, Italy. He's also the recipient of many significant art awards. Based on his resume, Mr. Smith clearly meets the definition of artist as described in the public Art ordinance. I think you have in
your package. You have some wonderful examples of his work that demonstrate that. In summary, the Morgan Group proposes a unique public art installation specifically
created for the Anclote Harbor Project, located in a publicly accessible site and created by a well known artist, Mr. Smith. If the proposal meets all the requirements for an on site installation, and we
respectfully request today your approval of both the artists and the art work. Interestingly, Eagles have long been a focus of Mr. Smith's work. He's really the perfect match to create this
art work for the project. I'm honored now to introduce you to Jeffrey Smith to tell you more about the artwork. And then both of us will be available for questions at the end of that.
Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. And I put together just a little visual to give everybody a little more idea of what we're
doing. So if we can play the video, it's about a minute and a half. Or do I Austin, could you
please play the video? Thank you.
It's a very exciting video. Well, while we're waiting for
that. Okay. While we're waiting for that, as Cindy said, what I envisioned
was this, this nest, which, as I understand the history of the project, the Eagles, this made a situation where that property at one point was going to be
flattened and turned into a Walmart distribution center, and that got halted and the land's been preserved, and now it's being developed in a way that
keeps a lot of the area open and wild. And where these eagles can still thrive along the river. So when Richard Buck came to me and talked to me about the history of this property and what they
were doing, I was like, wow, this is really neat, and I wanted to be a part of it. I've sculpted, you know, I've been an artist my whole life since I was
like 15 years old. And I love the wilds and protecting the wilds. And I understand there still needs to be a balance between development and
conservation. You know, we have to find places for people to live, too. And so this was a great project. And I think showing people these eagles up close where they can relate to
them is a wonderful thing up here. Maybe we're starting off again. We can play it if it's going to work. The Eagle, in
addition to being our national symbol, is very special to this particular project. It was a nesting eagles that kept the property from being completely
developed for a Walmart distribution center. I was very excited when I learned about the work to create an apartment building, which incorporated a large natural area and left room
for the eagles to come back and nest. And so in that light, I have created this maquette to fulfill the public art
requirement of the property. What I envision is a pair of bald eagles, life and a half scale with their babies on a
nest. These will be cast in bronze. All the work on this project will be done by me and my foundry. The Eagles will be sculpted in my studio in Stuart,
Florida, and they will be cast at my foundry in Loveland, Colorado. I have sculpted a number of eagles not only for
many of our private clients, but quite a few for the State Department that have been used as diplomatic gifts all over the world. I'm the unofficial eagle
sculptor for our country. So that's a piece that's in progress that hasn't been patinaed yet, but that's a life and a half scale eagle coming
and landing on a big oak tree. To give an idea of the scale, I brought this sculpture and this is life and a half scale. So
this will be the size for our sculpture of the Eagle Head. This is pretty close to the scale of it. And you can also
you it also gives you an idea of the quality of my work and the detail. That maquette is very, very rough. That's just a very rough three dimensional sketch.
To kind of get an idea of what the piece is going to look like. In addition. I've drawn out the
Eagles at scale, so this will be the scale of the Eagles. So.
Yeah, sometimes it's difficult when you say something's going to be 30in tall. It's like, well how big is that. You know I mean those are life and a half scale.
Eagles are pretty big birds. Yes. Thank you okay. And incidentally we just found out a
very similar sculpture to the one you have here was just presented to the incoming president of Namibia last week, which was very exciting. The
first female president of the country of Namibia. So. Do you any of the committee members have any questions for Mr.
Smith? It's a beautiful piece. Thank you. It's gorgeous. It is beautiful. How much would this weigh? How much? That's about 17
pounds. The one that's going to sit in front of the entrance. Well, no one's going to be able to pick it up and walk away with it. No, but it'll be, it'll be bolted down it I they're,
they're hollow. So they don't weigh as much as, as, as you would think. But it'll be several hundred pounds, you
know, maybe 250, 350 pounds and then it'll be bolted into the base. So it won't be going anywhere. And of course, you know, as we have the other
public art projects on the Tarpon arts.org website, we would include this one as well. So that will be another. And then we would include it in our
social media. So that'll be another way for the public to find, you know the and view the sculptures too. So do I have a
motion to accept the proposed sculpture for the Morgan Group?
I move to accept it. Do I have a second? Second? Can I have a roll call, please, for a vote? I'm sorry. Yes, Miss Taylor?
Yes, Miss Hickey? Yes. Great. Unanimous. We're looking forward to seeing the final product. Thank you so much. It's going to
be beautiful. Thank you, thank you. So. Let's see. Beautiful.
Oh, that is gorgeous. The detail is amazing. Oh bronze thank you so much. Thank you, thank you. It's beautiful. Thank you, Mr.
Smith. You're going to be bringing some wonderful credentials to the public art at City of Tarpon Springs. Thank you. Thank you. I love doing
this. This is my life. And there's going to be a great variety. In addition, I have a lot of public work, as you see
in Stuart, and we've been through lots of hurricanes. So they're they go through all that. Good, good good. Thank you very much. Have a safe flight
back okay. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. So we'll move on to old business. Megan, can you give us an update on the budget and any
developer contributions? There is? Sorry, there is a developer contribution of $13,500 was
contributed to the fund by North Lake Estates subdivision site. So the revenues through April
9th, 2025 are $15,234, which brings the projected balance. To
$189,218. Thank you. On to some new business. I'm going to go ahead and take the opportunity to just move the relocation of the sculpture currently at the
Citizens Alliance for progress up so that we can allow our staff to get back to their offices. Because and so, Katie, do you want to go ahead and give
us an overview of, you know, what the your committee has found? Well, we met with with City Manager Rudd and the Parks Department on Monday, Monday
night at the library. And they are here to give us a presentation on the three three areas that we were looking at. And we're going to go back to the community to get another
meeting with the community to see if they're okay with what the city bring us today. So as far as the pack members go, this is in your your package of information, and these are the
three sites that they're going to be discussing right now. And this is for the Stephen Oliver sculpture that is currently at the Cap Center on Martin Luther
King. Good afternoon. Wasn't planning to make a presentation, but I'll walk you through what we've got here. My name is Bob Robertson. I'm the project administration department director and the interim public
works director. Lucky me. So after Miss Taylor, what she said was correct, we met with the council on Monday evening and we walked walked through 6 or 7 options for the relocation of
this sculpture from the Cap center over to Dorsett Park. And of the seven, they narrowed it down to three. And those are the three that have the printouts that you have in front of you.
I'll walk you through those real quick. So the first one, it says option two on it in the upper right looks like a football. This is the this matches the current configuration of the installation over at the cap
center. And the idea here was to utilize some of the existing sidewalk on the east side, which is the top of the image there. And what you see there is the red lines indicates the panels
from that installation. And then the in the dark gray border around it. That's a sidewalk that would be installed so that it could be accessible and
viewable all the way around it. Let me go through all three of them. And then if you have questions, I'll make somebody else answer them. I'm kidding. Okay. So option six, the next
one, that's this one that looks like a hexagon says option six in the upper right side there. Here we're we're reconfiguring the alignment just a little bit
so that it's more of a roundish structure that matches the intent of the hooker basket I think was the intent of this. Miss Taylor had explained that
to us, so we made an attempt to put an option together that did that. And you'll see the sidewalk goes all the way around it again. We've moved it off of the edge of the building, so
there's a little bit more sidewalk space. And in ■this, in this option, we have to relocate the fence that's existing there to make room for it. And then
the last one, this one is option seven. It doesn't say that on it, but it's the one that looks like the triangle. And what we've done here is we've taken the six panels and we've matched
them up. We've paired them up back. Excuse me. Back to back. So the same size panels are, are will be installed in of course in a vertical configuration. But
what we've done here is created a situation where the art installation can be viewed around the outside and on the inside. So the panels that are
on the inside will probably we might even look at putting a bench or something in there. So you could sit and take it all in at least three panels at once, and then walk around the outside and get three panels. So these
are the three that we came up with. I will also indicate to you that there is a tree that's I think it's a fir tree was an old Christmas tree I believe that was planted. That's going
to have to get relocated. Parks has told us that they can spade that tree and move it to another location. So probably inside the fence going to the south a
little bit. So that kind of summarizes that if I missed anything, guys, raise your hand and tell me what I missed. So they come up and talk. So the
triangle one that would all be concrete. The gray area. Correct. That's what how we're showing it. It could be grass. And then we'd have to mow inside it and everything. I will point
out I'm glad you mentioned the configuration. One thing that we were trying to avoid with this triangle configuration was what is known as an attractive nuisance, where you create this
enclosed area on the other two options that might tempt someone to climb over it. Kids are out in this area all the time with the park and the and the playground. So with the open
configuration would eliminate that. Well, I shouldn't say eliminate. Maybe it's less tempting to climb it because you don't. There's nothing to get in. You don't have a goal to get inside. You can just walk right
inside this version. So I did want to point that out. But there is a gate, of course, in this configuration, all the even existing one now. So you can get in and maintain it and we can mow it. That wouldn't be a
problem. It's more just preventing the, the, the temptation of vandalism and climbing and all that. Great. Miss Taylor, did I catch everything from from the meeting
on Monday that you wanted me to capture? Yes, you did, but on that third one, on the on the sitting part, on the inside, I thought there was concern about people going in there sleeping
and. Oh yeah, that is another one. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. So this open configuration would, would make that a little less tempting to I think because now you there's no place to
hide. You can see inside it from, from all directions. And that's number seven that you're talking about. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I also wanted to mention that the all three of them are
located, you know, very close to the mural that's existing there too, which is nice. So it would be all in one area, Dorset. Extend the sidewalk or something
to that. You're going to maneuver the sidewalks. You have a space on the sidewalks to walk in front of the mural without it interfering with the structure. I think you can already do that,
right. I think there's a sidewalk around the building, the sidewalk around the building, but I think two and six was closer to the sidewalk. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yes. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. So, Miss Taylor, I'm not sure. Maybe you want to give your board some guidance on what you were seeking to get from this board today. If you were looking for a decision or a
recommendation or just the thoughts of this board, well, I wanted to get their consensus on what what we what we're trying to do is move it to Dorset Park, and this is the area that we're
going to take it back to the community to decide which which structure do they want to use? Sound like we're going to try to go toward recommending number seven due to the safety of the
kids and things. But I also wanted to mention that the structures, the way they have them is the same as it would be on the corner. They just had to reconfigure it. So it's not the
integrity of the artwork is not, has not been and has not been hampered. So. So Katie, you would like to get, you know, some feedback from the public
art committee today. And then we're you're going to then take this to the community again, and then it will come back to the public art committee. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So
does anybody want to comment on their preference or what they what their thoughts on it? If we all decide that I want to ask about this, the structure itself, because on the I know
the old one it didn't get lighting. So now we discussed putting lighting around the base of it. So that's something we want to move forward with to if we move it right now the current
one don't have lighting and it don't have footing, right. So the lighting in the footing would be added. What do you mean by footing the I guess this one here is all concrete. Number
seven. Yes. So there would just be lighting around the bottom of it so nobody can get in if, if it was one that they can walk in. Then we were saying we
really was kind of concerned about people being able to walk in there, but if they didn't have a walk in, could they put something in there like the boulders and the sponges to show
that it's an actual sponge? It held sponges. So improvise on what to put in the middle of it. Okay, I hadn't heard that. So you're saying if we went with
option 2 or 6, you'd want to put some additional something in the middle to discourage people from climbing into it? Climbing into it. But if we go with number
seven, I think that's the one that Jamie was leaning toward. Sponge. Pardon? Does that also represent right. Because it's a
corral and it holds sponges. So if you're going to put something in there not plants it would be sponges some kind of way. If you don't want to have one that walk in where people walk in. So it
would kind of be up to, I don't know if it's up to the community to decide whether you want to have one to walk in, but if it's not safe, then we don't want to vote on something and have it.
We can't have it because it would be a deterrent. Well, I don't I don't think safety is a is a huge concern in terms of really any of these. It's just
that if we wanted to avoid the temptation of people trying to climb it, then we wouldn't want to have one that's completely enclosed. And you're saying, well, if you filled it up with something in the middle that
might discourage that. I'm not sure I would agree with that, because I think that you put a fence. Something looks like a fence and it's painted all
pretty colors. It's going to it's going to be a temptation, I think, whether there's something in the middle or not. In fact, if you put something in the middle, it might be even more tempting for a kid to want to go
find out what's in there, you know, my I mean, I personally, I like the, the open configuration because it does allow a line of sight. You can always see inside it. You can see who's in there.
Your idea for the lighting is great. I think we probably should include some lighting when we do the relocation. And you can do that on the inside and should do that on the inside and outside. So having it well
lit on all sides would also be a deterrent. Of course, we could also put add signage, you know, to explain things. But I think too, you know there's a playground there. So and it's
well it's used for lots of games and you know there's lots of sports going on there as well. So I think just from a safety deterrent, you know, in the school right across the street,
I mean it's probably the open, you know, is design is a little bit safer from my perspective. But what are the other pack members think. What do you
think? Well, I think from the safety standpoint, I agree that the open plan would be better.
And I think that it would be easier for people to observe it and walk around it and, and be
able to appreciate it more than with it being enclosed on. I agree that the open concept would probably be less
problematic as far as the interaction with, you know, the public who's around there. My concern is that the integrity of
the art piece is lost because it's supposed to be a corral. Has anyone talked to Steven about reconfiguring? Yes. You
have. Yes, Steven has been this has been discussed with him. But that's what I was saying. Just because the, the, the structure looked like it's changed. It hasn't. It's just been
reconfigured to fit the location. So this is the same corral. It's the same thing. It's nothing that he did changes. It's just they took it out of one spot and put it in
another. But it's not in the shape of a corral anymore. It wasn't a shape of a corral over the over at Martin Luther King. It was it was it was configured to fit in the space that they
had there. So that that I don't want to call it a ditch, but that drainage ditch that is sitting over, he configured that to fit over the drainage ditch. So it wasn't a corral is a little bit more rounder if you I
think if we look at a corral it's not shaped like that one over on MLK. So we we're we're trying to stay within what he had. So when they take it apart they put it right back together.
But they have to do all the measurements, have to make a fit. They had to do a puzzle to make it fit. Okay. So his integrity of his work is not changing. Okay. As long as as
long as he's been a part of that discussion and he's fine with that configuration. And I've invited Steven to the meetings as well. I called him personally. Okay. Invited him to
the first one I put him, I tagged him on all the meat of the meeting that he was going to have. He couldn't make it, but I think he had a conversation with Mr. Stackhouse. And Mr. Stackhouse conveyed his
information. But we did give him an opportunity to come to all of our meetings. He just decided not to come. Okay. Yeah, that
that was my only concern is that, you know, in changing a configuration, we're changing the meaning of the artwork. And if the artist is has been a part
of that, then who am I? You know, as long as as long as he's he feels like the integrity is still there. Then. Then I'm good with it. So, Katie, what is the
time frame for going back to the community? Have you set up like a date? That's good for them. I have to check with City Manager Rudd to see when he's going to be available first. Okay, then I'll check with David to see if
the Union Academy will be available, and then we'll the Z will put out announcements to all the community. That sounds good. So I did have one other question is this is this city
property? Yes. This is city property. Excellent. It's a Dorset park. So the city owns, you know, all of that. And so that's where our, our public works department and, you know, others will be involved, you
know, with doing the moving and everything. Great. Okay. Thank you. Well I would like to ask another question though when, when on this number seven, the outside is where all the
pictures are going to be out within the triangle because that's concrete. But then that double line inside is that where the pictures are going to be? Yeah, it would be the panels
back to back okay. So both sides have pictures on them. Yeah. Exactly okay. Exactly. Does anybody else have any other questions. No. Okay. Great. Well
we look forward to. Okay okay Jamie you go to that one I get this one. Jamie Taylor, recreation superintendent.
Initially the discussion was to bring this back to community members, get their consensus and then bring their recommendation to Parks and Rec advisory board for them to write a letter to
the BoCC. I was just hearing earlier a piece of bringing it back to public art. So for me, if there's an agreement here with your group, I would suggest
let's get back with the community and then have them and then make that suggestion to Parks and Rec Advisory Board to give to the BoCC to keep things
moving. But that's just my piece there. Okay, good. So are we right now deciding which of these three that we're going to present to the community, or is the community going to be
looking at all three? The community is going to be looking at all three. But being that we've met and we've talked about it, we're going to encourage the open concept, okay? Our well,
let's just go ahead and take a vote of the members. Katie, you want to make a motion to go ahead and select the triangular
option. Okay. I'd like to make a motion to accept the triangle option of option number seven. Do I hear a second, second second. Can we take a vote,
please? Mr. Yes, miss. Sabatello. Yes, Miss. Taylor? Yes, Miss Hickey? Yes. Great. We look forward to hearing what the community has chosen to. All
right. Now we have to get to election. Thank you all for your input. Appreciate it. Thank you. My apologies for holding you guys up. Sorry about that. Okay.
So based on our our ordinance, we are supposed to elect a chair and a vice chair at our January meetings. And because we had to
cancel that meeting. And our next meeting was April. Here we are. So, so I will say that the chair will do. What I'm doing
now is just running the meeting, and then the vice chair is back up in case the chair is absent
for any reason. And the, the, the way that we're currently run is with Robert's Rules of Order. And, you know, just making motions and accepting and then
taking votes and everything. So the chair would be in charge of doing that. So do I have any interest from anyone. Want to
toss your, your, your hat, so to speak, into becoming chair anyone I do Don okay. Anybody
else. Okay. And then anybody else you can if you want. Feel free. No, no. You're it. Okay. Don't. All right. Please. I
mean, even though y'all are. Well, Don's been here the longest, but, you know, you all are Katie's second, you know, and then, you know, Martha is brand new, but, you know, you
all are are very, you know, competent to serve as chair. So whatever. I would like to nominate Katie to be vice chair.
Well, let's get the chair out first okay. Okay. So all in favor of electing Don as the president I mean president.
Sorry. The chair of the public art Committee, please raise your hand. Okay. Three yeses accepted. And so the vice chair.
Do I have a nomination for that? I nominate Katy Perry, Katie Taylor. Any other interest ahead of right. And Martha is throwing
her hat in as vice chair, too. So let's see. So let's go ahead and talk about let's take a vote
on everybody in favor of Katie as vice chair. Raise your hand. But before you do, before you take that I don't have a problem with her being vice chair. I just want to serve on this board
and I work on other committees. So if one of them out, then. Hey. Okay. So. Okay. All right. So see you. So Katie said, all
right, I'll pass for right now. Okay. We might be tapping you again later on. Never will. All right. So all in favor of Martha as vice chair, raise your hand.
Okay, great. Three yeses. Thank you. All right. Very good. Thank you. All right, so this comes to our pack meetings. You know, you
all in the fall had changed to quarterly meetings. And I was wondering if there was an interest in going back to monthly meetings. Or did you
want to keep them quarterly? Please. It's open for discussion. Well, I'd like to say we've got a lot of catching up to do. So I would like to
move back to monthly meetings. If the three of us can, you know, make the commitment to be here. Because if one of us isn't here at this point, then it's,
you know, it's going to be wasted. So anybody have any comments? I would like to mention that I'm not around a
lot during the summertime. So at this particular time, that might be a little difficult for me. Okay. And I had mentioned that
before. So okay. I think you could miss two meetings, you know, if they're excused and things like that. So we can. Yeah. But we wouldn't have a
quorum. We wouldn't be able to get anything done. Well, that will give us all the impetus to recruit new members. I've been trying. Yeah, so. So I mean, so
should we. When? Until when? Like, do you leave? Like in June, July, August? I know for sure I'll be gone in June and
August and maybe I'll be home some in July. So. Yes. So. So it's April. So we've got May.
And you said June. I'll be gone in June. June, definitely. And pretty much. August. Okay. So we
could probably meet next month and July. Well I mean I think I'll be here for that. Let's let's hope that we get more members. You know, I mean,
that's our goal because we'll if we go back to monthly, we can we'll work it out and it you know. So okay. But because I know I have other obligations
too. So I want to make sure that if can we stick with quarterly for now until we get other people and then go back to monthly. Because if she's not going to be available, we it's going to be like hit and miss.
That's true. That's true. I mean, you know, it was fortunate that we got, you know, Martha on board for this meeting and that was by the skin of our teeth. So
I mean we can stay at quarterly for, you know, the interim, you know, if you want to just so maybe then things will open up and we'll get more members by fall. That's what I'm hoping.
Okay. And then that way you can really kind of hit the road, you know, street running. So I know we have a lot of things left
that we need to, you know, still talk about and, you know, get on board. But you know, it is an issue with, you know, the membership. And like you said, it's like if we're missing one person or if somebody is ill or
whatever, it's like we don't have a quorum. Right? And it would have been very unfortunate today with a pretty big presentation, you know, not to have just, you know, he come
from Stuart, Florida, you know. Yeah. So anyway, so I appreciate you all so much. Thank you for being here and being part of the committee. But we do need to recruit some more people and I'm
working on it too. Okay. So we're saying quarterly now and then we'll revisit in October. Yes I think that's a good plan. And you know, that way, you know the hurricane season. Knock on
wood will be over. And, you know, you can really get some work done. You know, there are some public art projects, you know, that are in the hopper that, you know, we really need
to start addressing. One of them is illuminated art boxes and things that's been, you know, they've been up for quite a long time. I will tell you that they
did change them from solar. They connected the electric, the electric to the electrical poles that are there. So I think that's going to be good for sustaining them, especially with the hurricanes and things like
that. So, you know, that's a project that we need to bring back soon. And then of course, you know, getting the this sculpture moved and everything.
So yeah, and I know that there were some other things that you all were interested in, but I think in my opinion, that's a good plan to stay quarterly. Now, you know, until we can get
some more members. Well, and if nobody objects, maybe I could start moving forward with the illuminated art boxes. In the meantime, you know, since we're going to have the quarterly
still and just kind of get that moving. Sure. And I can get the materials for that, because I'd really like to get that in motion. Okay. And then, you
know, that will give me time to kind of get acclimated to that. And then we can meet in July and go forward from there. Sounds good. And just, you know, if you
have remember, just communicate directly with me instead of copying everybody on the committee because of the sunshine laws. So but if you got ideas or different things just,
you know, always just email me directly, okay. Do you does anybody have any other questions about today's meeting at all or any concerns? Not today's
meeting, but I do have one, I guess kind of old business where I had made a suggestion to work with parks to do a mural on the building. Right. But Jamie was telling me, they're going to
they're getting ready to redo the whole building. So that project is going to be set aside for a while. Well, that'll be good to know. What? Especially I know that the new city manager
has a lot of new initiatives. And now with the new incoming mayor, too, I'm sure there's going to be lots of different projects. So, you know, that'll be good, too. Another good reason to wait until the fall
when things kind of are settled a little bit more. We know what projects are going on and then you all can, you know better, choose where you want to spend your time with the new projects
and everything. So when they do the building, I still like to go back to the oh sure, sure. But for now, yeah, absolutely. So in the meantime, if I wanted to
communicate, you know, progress or whatever, I would email you and then you would send it out to everybody. Got it. Yeah. So that's a, you know, just email me and then I and say please
share this with the public. You know, art members. And so and I'll do that. That's okay. That's the best way to do it
okay okay. Staff comments. Megan, do you have anything. Welcome, welcome, Martha.
Welcome. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Okay. So this is a different setup for us. From now on, we will be up in our second floor meeting room. But this was
kind of fun acting like a board of commissioner, you know, mayor, here we go. And the mayor's seat. Do we have any
public comments? Hi. Joan Jennings, 2204 Pine Drive. First. Martha, welcome. It's
wonderful to see you up there. And it's especially wonderful to get representation from the Tarpon Springs Art Association. Thank you. Don kind of jumped
over what I was going to say next, which was about the art boxes, that they really need some help. And since I'm not a member of the committee, I can
help you. Okay. Right. Yeah. Okay. And I do have all of I think Graham also left all of the instructions and what's
necessary to get them. I don't have that. He gave it back to me, but I gave it back to him when he decided he was going to take it back. Okay. And then he.
I'm sure we can that he left. Yeah, we can get it back. Okay. Also, I still have some concerns about moving the Stephen Oliver
sculpture. It was brought to this committee attention before, but there is a United States law called the Visual Rights Act of
1990 about altering artwork. I know the city bought it. The city owns it. But Stephen still has certain intellectual rights. And I think to protect, protect
the city, you have to get some sort of permission in writing from Stephen to do what you want with it. And, you know, I know
there's been mention of polling the community about the different options, but I'd just like to know if the community was ever polled about moving it in the first place. And also,
I'm glad that you're going to do signage. And also the most needed brochure that was never done in the first place. That really created a lot of lapses
with the piece. Thank you. Thanks, Jim. Joan. Anybody else? All right. So thank you. Our next meeting will be Wednesday,
July 9th at 2 p.m. Upstairs and adjournment time is 3:08 p.m.
Thanks, everybody. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that again. I
would say that a lot of things that they have to go at dawn, dawn, you know, how to get a
hold of you.