Oh, it's good that it's cold in here. For so long. I know right. It's that boiling pot of water.
It's that boiling pot of. Good afternoon everyone. This is the public Art Committee. It is
Wednesday, April 8th at 2 p.m. in the City Hall second floor media room. And we are calling the meeting to order. Can we
get a roll call of the members? Miss Hickey here, miss Taylor here. Mr. Brock here. Chair. Arpatel here. Excellent. Would
we have a few guests here? Would each of you come to the microphone and state your name and your department or your address? Holly Langston,
sustainability program manager. Karen Lemons, economic development manager. Tennessee Weller, patron, services coordinator, cultural civic
Services. Great. Thank you. Let's go to our meeting minutes from our last meeting, which was February 11th. And. We need
to approve those if there's no changes. Does anybody have any edits? Nope. Okay. Can I get a
motion to approve? Motion that we approve the minutes as read with necessary corrections. I'll second. Okay. Roll call.
Vote. Miss Hickey. Yes. Miss Taylor? Yes, chair. Yes. Excellent. Now we are on to old business. First up is an update
on the illuminated art box process. So we have gotten all of the high res artworks. Joan has processed them, and they're
ready for me to get a, I guess, a bigger hard drive, a thumb drive over to her. We've had a couple of delays. We had my illness and then she's had some
illness issues recently, too. But I am touching base with her tomorrow to see about getting those to the vendor. She said that from there it should take
a couple weeks to get the the panels printed, and then I'll coordinate with public works for installation. So that's where we are. I'm hoping to
have them installed in May. I have gotten some emails from some of the artists since there has been some delays. Some emails from the artists, and I've been responding to those
saying, you know, I'm hoping April, maybe, maybe May, but they're in process. I have the majority of the artists all set up as vendors. There's just a
few people that I need paperwork from. Okay, so I'll get you that list of just the last remaining few. And one artist just needs to re sign a
form. Okay. Yeah, send me that list. I'll reach out to them, make sure they get it. Okay. Awesome. So that's it for that.
Any questions? Awesome. Next up is the Storm Storm Drain mural project updates. Okay. Three of the storm drains have been
painted and there are photos here. All those pictures, they look amazing. And I think it's really great to see these. And.
Make a difference like that. I'm really thrilled with these three. Yeah. The one on Dodecanese, the artist is a college student. She is in
Pensacola, but she will be home in May and she's going to let us know then. And I'll let Holly know when to clean
everything. The artist all have the paperwork. The vendor application and the what is it? A w-9 form. And I'm going to
make sure that the artist that's in the Panhandle, the college student, gets all the information. She has most of it.
So that's four. And now the fifth one is the staff. And I did bring a flash drive in with
the submissions. There's four submissions on it from five artists. And then one of the artists who painted the storm Drain on Martin Luther King
also put in submission for the storm drains. Okay, so you're ready to look at them? Yes. That's where we stand. Okay, awesome. The questions that are
on the screen are just some suggestions to consider when you're selecting the staff. And here they are. There are some
names on the submissions, but I doubt you guys know who they
are. That's cute. We've got this is artist. This is the
same artist here. Did this artist submitted to okay. Very
cute. That's so fun. And then we have. A dolphin. Oh, nice.
This is a different artist. Yeah. Zoom in a little. Okay.
That's two. So for this one, it looks like there's a lot of photography there. How is that going to translate to the.
Putting it on the drain? Do we know? Did they say anything about it? Okay. The staff person that did this, it is a
digitally created art, much like some of the submissions that you all got from the public artists that submitted. So I think it's really up to the artist, obviously, to
ensure that the message that the image translates in the painting process. And I think that's why there are two people, because I believe that one person kind of did the creation,
but the other person might be more of the person who applies the the art to the drain, if you will. So, okay, it's a
collaborative effort. Okay. Oh, and tarpon, I like that. That's
nice. And we also have there was a submission by a non staff person, but this is for the staff corner. So do we even
need to look at that. I think we kind of decided that that one was going to be staff provided. But we should we should keep that artist in mind
for any future ones. Right now she's already painted the one at Martin Luther King. Okay, so she's already done one chosen.
Okay. Yes. Okay. Okay, let me know which ones you want to look at. Can you show that one with the fish again? The one
that I think was at the end. I like that. One. Please. And thank you know, one more. Keep
going. Yeah. That one. Does that fish look like he has teeth? No, it looked like to me. He's smiling with teeth. Okay.
He is smiling. I think that's a tarpon. Right? It is. Yeah. Only right. That's the one I like, I like it. Can you go
back to the second one that you showed the. The one on the
bottom one. That one. No, a nice cover. I really like that one quite a bit. It's got so
much motion and activity and the colors are great. The walrus manatees. I mean I've seen manatees more around here than I don't know which is okay,
so this one and. This one are the same artists. Okay. I don't know if you want to pick one or the other or eliminate one
between those two. I think I would go with the manatees, although that one is super cute too. I mean, they're all really
great. But I would go for the 604. That's my vote. Does anyone else have a favorite or
one that they like more than the others? I like the one that has the lighthouse and all. Yeah, that's my favorite right
there. The smiling fish is very smiley. So I like the Manatee 604. Same one. Done. Okay, I guess. So what I'll do is I
will number these and then maybe you can put them in order. I know how you guys did the last time, like five because there's the three of you each
have a different favorite. So that's the vote is going to be a little since there's only three. Her and I had the same same picture. So it was two of
us had the same. That could be easy. All right. I would say that, you know, these are really great, all of them. And it's nothing precluding from
submitting them for future ones as well. Yeah. Because I would, I would be happy to consider any of them for future ones.
Yeah. Okay. So are we going with the manatee? She want to make want to do ranked choice. Yeah. Who wants to make a
motion? Make a motion. We accept the art piece from the manatee. For the drainage. Yeah.
Storm drain mural. I'll second it. I like them all. Actually, I do too. They're all really
cute. They're. And then Megan. Okay. I have a motion to accept the manatee storm drain. Only
rain down the drain for the corner of Gross and Pine. Miss
Hickey. I'll make that motion. We already made the motion. Oh, yes. Excuse me, Miss Taylor.
Yes, chair. Oh, yes. Great. Super duper. Yeah. Be sure and let the other staff members know that we'd be. We'd love to see their submissions for
future ones. Excellent. I will. Okay, next is old business is public Works. The Bleacher building mural update. So that
is Jean's project. She is not here today, but we can tell you that the call to artist went out shortly after the last time the committee met. We have
received zero submissions yet. I mean, the deadline is not till mid-May, I believe. Yeah. May 16th. So there's still lots of time. We have over a month.
Yeah. I think maybe a good plan would be if this is okay with you all to wait until the deadline, see if anything comes in, and if not, put it out again and maybe try to expand
the scope of the call to artist. Yeah, I think it was focusing a lot on like public works and utility. And that might have been a narrow scope for artists. Maybe it wasn't as appealing.
It's hard to say. Yeah. And maybe there still will be submissions coming our way. Right. Is there any way that. I guess if we don't know who's
seen it and who hasn't, we don't have any way of surveying why an artist might not be interested. Right. Okay. All
right. Well. I guess we'll see what the submission situation looks like at our next meeting in June, and then we'll address
from there. If we need to change some of the parameters, expand the reach. ET cetera. In the meantime, would it be possible to just kind of put it out, maybe with a little fresh look so that it's, you know,
maybe catches somebody's eye? They're not like, oh, I saw this before and see if that generates because it has been summer people out on vacations and stuff like that. So maybe.
You know, yeah, we could definitely reshare it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I can send this out to the artist at the Tarpon Springs Art Association
because some of them might be interested in it. Great idea. Great. Several of them have submitted storm drain things and something like 20 of them.
The light box. So nice. I'll send it out to them. Okay. Very good. Yeah. So let's let's see what that gets us. And I'm
wondering if maybe Jean could reach out to maybe some of the schools, maybe high school and middle school to see if either of the school art teachers might be interested in having a
class project or something. Yeah, we can send her a note. This is a big mural opportunity on a very prominent wall across from City Hall. So yeah, we definitely want to vet the
artists. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. We want to make sure it's it's good, but you know, appropriate and all that. But you never know what burgeoning talent is
out there. So I've seen some pretty amazing things from people just getting started. So it might be worth reaching out. Okay, so we will revisit that
in June. Excuse me, have a question. Is there an honorarium involved? Because I'm not seeing it here on my paperwork. I think we are. It
was a there was they were going to include their fee in the proposal is what I believe. Right. We were asking for for budgets. Yes. Right. So that we could weigh the budget. So does
it say that in here it's. Timeline. Let's see. Our proposal will include a quote
for the design and materials. Yes. I didn't see that before. Maybe we could bold that. Or underline it if you're handing
it out. Okay. That's a good question. Okay. The last old business is the Dorset Park
mural update. So the mural has been installed for the third time. It looks great. It's on it's metal backing, so it's not applied directly onto the wall
like it was in the past. And it has two layers of protective coating. So it has a laminate overlay and then basically an epoxy over that to protect it. Plus the building maintenance
guys were great in the day. After it was installed on the wall, they put the bumpers on the edges that we had discussed. Oh, terrific. It's up there. It looks really good. I think the
laminate overlay actually helps the colors pop. It makes it look more shiny. Oh very cool. So, you know, it's not only protective, but I think it enhanced the the profile of the piece as well. Excellent. I'm
going to make a point to go by there and see it on Friday. I mean Katie saw it a few weeks ago. It looks great. Yeah. Everybody happy with it. Yes for sure. Great. Super. All
right. So that's a done done thing. Yeah. Knock on wood. Okay. So on to new business.
First one is economic development building mural project, call to artists. That was we have this economic.
Katie's working on that one. Okay. Karen. Yeah. Okay. I saw all these photographs on here.
Karen Lemons is here. That's her building where she has her office. Nice. So do you want to join? Tell the public art
Committee your thoughts. Tell us all about it. Well, you all are the experts, but I can give you a little background as to how that photograph got on the
side of the building. So it was in 2021 when through the CRA, we were looking at doing some another grant incentive for
building owners to put murals on their buildings. We noticed there was a lot of buildings on high visible areas like up and down alt 19 and areas where
they just had a big vacant wall. We thought it would be so nice if there would be a mural there. So we started the mural program that was approved by the city
board then, and we did the mural on the side of my building as a demonstration project. So the, the, the grant included historic photos or
murals. Okay. Either one, that was the criteria. You could do a mural or you could do a historic photo. And the criteria had it had to come before the public art committee first, because none of us are
experts. So we thought we would put that all on you to approve the mural or the historic photo, and it would come back through the CRA grant process for
funding. And that. So with that demonstration project, we there were a lot of murals that were starting to pop up already and on some buildings. And so we thought, well, we'll do a demonstration project for a
historic photo. And we found through the historical society that photograph that's on the building now that mirrors what Spring Bayou looked like back
in, I think it was like the early 30s. And so we had that applied to the side of the building so people could see what a historic photo would look like on a building and try
to get some people to apply or some excitement over that. So that's how that photo came to be on the side of my building. And that was five years ago now.
So it's very faded almost to the point where you can't see it anymore. And in talking with Miss Taylor, it was like, well, let's try to get, you know,
some murals going in the city on public buildings. And the CRC building is publicly owned. And so we thought that would be a good place to start and perhaps do a public art project
on the side of that building. I know in the past you've tried to do some murals, other places. I think those are maybe on private buildings, but so
that's how that all came to be through the mural. So and you know, in my opinion, anything can really go on the side of that building. It doesn't have to be a photograph. It could be
a mural. It could be, you know, whatever given the area that it's in, it's by Spring Bayou. So maybe, you know, manatees or something, you know, imitating
the park. Or it could be a historic photo. It could be, you know, whatever that's, that's all your, your expertise. So I'm here to answer any
questions that you might have. Okay. I, I'm just, just out of curiosity because five years, you know, I'd like for a project to last more than five years. So I was just curious
about the application of the photo. Like how did that, what was the mechanism for putting it on there? And, and yeah, the company that did it, and as I said, it was a demonstration
project. The company that did it, they, they blew up the photo. They, they had guaranteed it for two years. Okay. So we knew that going in. You got five. That's pretty
good. Was it, was it like applied on there like a film or. Yes, it was applied as a film. So it can, you can't peel it off. But yeah, they applied it
in, I think there were three sections of it. Okay. All right. So what we are looking to do is
come up with a call to artist about this project. So I think first we'll need well, maybe you have it. Do we have the
dimensions of the wall? The it's 30ft long and I don't have the height yet. Staff is going to go out and look at it. I
think it might be 10 or 12ft tall, but we'll okay. We'll get the dimensions on that to you.
Okay. Oh yeah. There's the. I should point out one other thing too. We've been talking about this for some time, but
just to let you know that there is a potential in the future for that building to not exist. So, you know, that's it's since
it's owned by the C r a, there's always a potential for doing a request for proposals for redevelopment on that property. You know, we've, we've talked about some things in the past since we own it,
what to do with that piece of property. It's not only where the building is, but the vacant land to the west of it. Okay, so at some point that could come up. So just to let you
know, I mean, it could be a year, two years, ten years never has to be approved by a lot of people. So I just wanted to throw that out there so that, you know, there's a, there's a potential for the building to
at some point. Is there anything in the works right now heading in that direction? Not in the works right now, but the city manager has expressed interest in doing a request for
proposal, possibly with with the next budget cycle, which would be FY 27. Okay. Okay. A
budget proposal for what to redevelop the property to redevelop all just tear the building down. Yeah. Like similar to what we did with the, the Tarp and registry project,
the vacant lot downtown. Now, we worked on that for about ten years to try to get a successful development there. So there's a lot of steps involved. You know, the board
has to approve doing the request for proposal, which means, you know, getting agreement that we want to move ahead with trying to get some kind of development. And then
you have to do your request for proposals, and you need to get a proposal that is accepted and liked, and that doesn't always happen. So it's just it's
nothing that's going to be set in stone. I just wanted to to let you all know that that is a potential at some point. Okay, I appreciate that. And you know, there's no sense not
beautifying just because something might happen down the line. I think because however long it's there, people can enjoy it. Well, it was the same
example when the mural artist did the mural on the lot downtown on the on the building where the urban routes is okay,
or urban coffee shop. Yeah. When she approached us to do that, we knew at the time there was an ongoing, you know, could potentially be redeveloped. But she moved ahead and did it
anyway. And it looks great. And people have been talking about it, but that now is going to end up, you know, going away when the registry gets built.
Oh, okay. But it's been there for, I want to say 6 or 7 years, something like that. All right. Question. Karen with the c r a
program you said they're looking at next year. So if you ask about what are their plans for next year, can you do you have to wait to see what are they going to do for 27 rather
than start something that might go away in 27? No, I mean, in terms of, you know, we're always planning on what we have a, you know, a master plan of, of projects. And then it all
depends on, you know, you choose what you want to focus on. So yeah, so there's no guarantee that it will. No. And
we haven't really publicly discussed that at this point yet. But, you know, I just know that's something that it's been identified because we bought that back in 2018, I believe.
And we did a highest and best use analysis on the property in 2020 maybe. And we had some public input then and some engagement sessions. And at
that point, the majority opinion was let's leave it as open space. So we just kind of said, okay, we'll do that. And and just moved on from there.
But it's something that's been identified so it could come up again. Yeah. Well, if there's anything we know, no big project like that moves very
fast. No at all. So, you know, if we were to get a few years even, but we might keep in mind, keep that in mind when we're thinking about the budget for
it. But yeah, I, I think we should put together a call to artists for that and see what we get. And if we get more information that something is
definitely moving forward. I mean, we certainly will let you know. But at this point, I just wanted to let you know so that if it does come up in several months or even a year from now
or two years from now, you're not blindsided that you didn't know. So another question for you is being that the budget might be looked at because we don't know what the building
going to be in a few years. The call to artists. Are you open to murals and historic, whichever one might cost a lease? Yeah, I mean, I, I don't want to dictate what's going on
there. That's, that's for you all. So it's whatever you think is best is fine. Personally, my thought is if it's a just a reproduction of a photograph,
then that's not really our purview. It's, it's historic and it's photographic, but it's not necessarily, you know, art.
So I would say we should I, my recommendation or my preference is to stick with mural for the call to artist. And then if we
don't get, you know, any bites or, you know, nothing comes of that, then we can always do a, you know, a, one of the
historic photographs, which are fantastic. It's just, you know, trying to make sure we keep the dividing line between historical stuff and artwork stuff because we've run into
issues before. So that would be my inclination. Of course, everybody can, you know, I'm open to input on that. But
that's that's my inclination. I'm a coloboma bumblebee. So I like color. I like abstract art like murals. Yeah. I mean, I like color too. Yeah. So so if
you're good with that, Karen, maybe we can. Yeah, it's a physical space. You know, there's tons of tracks. I'm in that office a lot and there's a lot of traffic that goes, you know, west on Tarpon Avenue.
Yeah. It would be nice to have something that's really eye catching and, and not that historical photography is fantastic. I love it. I love looking at all these, but in a
prominent place like that, I think it would be nice, particularly since it's, you know, around Spring Bayou and there's so much, you know, subject matter that could be incorporated into something
like that. I'd really like to see a colorful mural. So yeah. Okay. So is there any particular timeline you guys are looking at for, for, you
know, when just whenever. Yeah. Okay. That sounds a bit before they tear the building down. Right. Sometime before sometime. Yeah, exactly. Well, who knows, maybe they'll make it a
fantastic art wall with a develop something else. You never know. Or maybe they can keep just that wall. Yeah. There you go. Do something with the rest of it. Yeah. Maybe put a water feature on it or
something. You know, you never know where the future is going to lead. So. Okay, so I'm going to say we have the dimensions.
We're going to do a mural, colorful mural. Yes. Colorful. You know, a photograph can also
be colorful and a mural too. That's true. So I was, I was actually just thinking when you said about color, I was thinking, you know, we could get an artist to actually like,
you know, incorporate a photograph with, you know, some artistic color splashes, whatever, you know, and that's certainly possible. I would
probably leave that option up to the artists, but it might be something that maybe in the call to artists we can
incorporate, we can say subject matter relative to Spring Bayou, environment, wildlife activities, etcetera. Including
incorporating one or more historical photos as long as there's no people in them. Recognizable people, that would be I think we could. Would it
have to be historical photos? Could it be a photo of Spring Bayou photo? Oh. It's totally up to you guys to. Because the
historical photo. That was the great. That was the criteria for the CRA grant. Yeah. Okay. So you are you're not. This is public art. So you're not under that criteria. Okay. Because
the CRA is and funding it, you all are. So you can do any kind of. So in that instance, we can just say that. Any kind of
media is encouraged. You know, we can say we want a colorful mural that is spring by you or
something. Yeah. That, that. Representative. Yes, it is redevelopment. So it looks something maybe that show growth where they had horse and buggies at one time. Now we got cars. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.
Maybe what I think there's some historic photos of what Craig Park used to look like. So, you know, so maybe it's something that can they could paint kind
of what it used to look like. And now it looks like today. Okay, I would think that we could, if we want to say, you know, just that's
representative or reflective of the Spring Bayou area in Tarpon and leave it up to the artist to interpret what they want to do with that. You know, a lot
of artists I know, even in the illuminated art box, we had some mixed media, some collage that had some photography and drawing and stuff like that in it. So I would, I would leave
that open to the artist, but just tell them to get their inspiration from looking at the area. Yeah, there's a lot there. There's a lot you can do with
photography too. So yeah, from the area. Yeah. Okay. Reflective of the Spring Bayou.
Draw inspiration from the area. So we'll put the dimensions on there. We need the final dimensions would be good. And do we want to set a budget for
this? Or do we want to do like the last one and say, give us a proposal. That's what. 30ft by
ten feet. That's a pretty big wall. That is. Not as big as the one across the street, but it is a big. The building looked big, but the mural is
not the whole wall. It's just a. It's just in a part of the. Maybe we should say up to the size of the wall. That way, you know, if they wanted to do something smaller that, you
know, stands out though, you know. Yeah. Because what's on there now is not the size of the wall. Okay. It's not okay. But they could use the entire.
Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. So size up to full wall size, but not necessarily doesn't necessarily have to be that, but that the
picture that's there now is it is bordered by some kind of border. Is that screwed in, do you know, or is that cemented in that is part of the
photograph. We had them put a border on it so it would look like it's mounted. But it's not it's not 3D. It's just a flat
panel that's there. That's you can kind of peel it off. Okay. Okay, so size up to the full size of the wall. Do we want to say a minimum size? Do you know
what the size of the actual photograph is on there? I do, but I, yeah, I know numbers are not my friend either. So yeah, if you could let us know the
size of the photograph that's up there, we'll have that as a minimum size and we'll say up to the full size of the wall, reflective of the spring by you
draw inspiration from the area. Colorful mural. Do we want to put a we got to put a deadline.
Right. So. Do we have enough here to put together a call to artists to go out, do you think Brandon or so. Okay, so if we could get that out in the next
week or two, then maybe we could set a deadline of. July 15th and then we can look at it
or may, June, June during the summer. That might be a little tight. I think I'd make it a little further out, maybe like August 1st. Okay. Yeah. Because
a lot of people are traveling. Okay. You got one in August already, right? So maybe September because you got something. This one here is ending in August, if I'm not mistaken. That's the completion date, I think. I think yeah,
that's me. Yeah. The deadline for that one is May mural is due. That's to be painted. That's completed. Yeah. But not the call to the next. I mean the submissions. The next pack
meeting is June 10th. And then after that the next meeting is August 12th. Okay. So maybe if we say August 1st, we can have
the deadline for submissions. That way we can revisit it at the August meeting, and maybe we could get an update on if there's been any action on the call to artist at our June
meeting. And at that point, we can say, oh, you know, is there anything do we need to put it out again? Do we, you know, do we have stuff to look at, etc. at the June meeting? Does that
sound like a good plan? I think okay, sounds good to me. Okay. Do we do we need a is that something we need a motion for or are we just going to do it? We didn't decide on if they
were going to do a budget or. I think because the size varies, the size of the mural can vary. I think we would want the artist to submit a budget
proposal as well as the, you know, size proposal, budget proposal, because we have, you know, from the size of the photograph up to the full size
of the wall. So that's probably a pretty decent variation. So I say, let's have the artist send us a budget. Also, I'm afraid sometimes that if we put a
budget that we can handle, sometimes it discourages people from making a submission. Whereas if we get a submission that we like, then that's something that we can discuss, you know, budget wise and also
talk to the artist and see if there's any wiggle room. But I'd rather have something in front of us that we can start from. Yeah. Is that does that
work for you? Okay. All right. So we're going to get the call to artist out. Is that something that you guys can handle? Do you need my input on it? We have a template that
works pretty well. We can send it to you, the three of you to just take a look over. And if anyone has objections, you can respond directly to Megan because I won't won't be here after this week. But yeah, we
can put it together. Don't make me cry. Brandon. Yeah, that sounds like a great plan and we'll see where it goes from there. But it sounds like a
very exciting, very high profile, visible, colorful piece of artwork we can get out there. So I'm excited. Yeah, I think it'll look great. Yeah. Thank you, Miss Taylor. Forward to working with you. Karen.
Yeah. Thank you for thinking of that. That's a good idea. Okay. And are you going to be. Yes. I thought we'd already discussed that before. That was going to
be my project. Okay, perfect. So I'm going to run it here. Katie. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So do
we. We don't need a motion to do any of that. Right? I don't believe so. Okay. I don't think so either. When is it going out? When it's going out. June. Paula artist is going out in a couple as possible. Yeah. Like
within the next week or two. Okay. Yeah. And if I can get a copy of it, I'll send it out to the TSA artist. We have so much
talent. I'm yeah, involved with. Yeah, we need to someday it's going to rub off on me. I.
Brandon, did you say that you have contact information for like the, the school art programs? I do, I have contact info for the middle school and high school art teachers for
middle and tarpon High School. Fantastic. Would you mind sending me that? Because I would like to start a loop of sending, making sure that that the art teachers are involved
and because they're, they're closest to the kids that they work with and they know, you know, who might be interested in that kind of thing. Yeah, I can share their emails with you. Super. So I'm going to I'm just
going to generally reach out to them and just say, hey, or are you interested in being in the loop on this stuff? Because we would love to have student input. Yeah. When I sent them
the Storm drain mural call to artist and the other, there was a second one, I can't remember what it was. I didn't hear back from them. Yeah. Okay. Well,
maybe maybe if I set up a meeting and just actually go talk to them in person, that would be great helpful to, to kind of just form that relationship and, and, you know,
maybe that could move it forward. Okay. So I'm, when I get that email from you, I'll start setting that up to that end. Well, I'll put that under staff committee stuff because I
have a question. Okay, so next new business is Dorset Park. The b h p sculpture, photos and park signage. Oh, the Black
Heritage project. Yes. So. Oh. Excuse me. Who has an update on that? Well, yeah, I went out
there with with Brandon and we we've asking that certain pitches be moved around. I've shown Brandon what we're talking about. What makes sense,
entering that structure. So it's a couple of pictures, like a picture of a church. We're asking to move it to the to the opposite side and bring Mr. Dorsett up front. So when you
enter in that project, you'll see it's the Bahamian Sponger project. It's not a project on a specific church that they're talking about. And also the for
moving forward sign. Put that up front. So that'll explain what the piece is all about, why it's there. And I think it was it was another portal that was talking about photos. Yeah.
Three photos. So the moving forward signage, is that already installed somewhere else? It's in the back where you can't see it. It's facing the opposite wall feel nobody walks over there. So you don't
you don't see it when you walk up to the project because you walk into an entrance. Yeah. And it should be like on both sides. That tells the story when you're walking in, but they're in the back where
nobody walks back there until you walk inside the exhibit and go out back. And so it's not really drawing anybody in. You only see it unless you've already been there. Right? Do we know what it might take to
get that moved? It's not, it's not. It's not. From what I can tell, it's pretty simple. Yeah, it's pretty simple. Jamie said it would be a simple thing. Well, once upon a time he did say the name. But yeah, it
would be a simple moving a couple of pictures around by loosening screws and putting them back. And the gap, you know, the the, the square footage for each picture. We don't think that'll be a
problem. Okay. They should fit, you know, right there. So this at this point, it's just a public works going in and swapping some things around and moving the signage. Right. Okay.
Has anybody reached out to Steven to see how he feels about it? No, I think the account I think the the county attorney, city attorney or Mr.
Rudd was saying that Steven really don't have a voice and just moving pictures around on that now because he signed his rights away. This art exhibit belongs to the city. Nothing. The integrity of the structure
is not affected because all of his material is still there. It's just juggling a couple of pictures around to make it okay. You know, logical. I guess my my only concern with that is
that I know that in the background there was other images and stuff. Is it still going to look cohesive? And if it does, then I got no problem with it. Yeah. And I can attest to what Katy's saying. It
actually makes a little more sense. And not that, you know, because it's currently not in the format that Steven designed it to be. It's already been moved and changed and
rearranged to fit its new location. But moving the three pieces in question that Katie's talking about actually makes a little more sense, because the picture of Mr. Dorsett is of
him ringing sponges. What do you call stringing sponges? Okay, right now it's not currently with other sponge stringing pictures. It would then be kind of in a place
where it makes more sense in the front of the park. And the other image is a picture of a Greek church. It would be with other Greek type things where
it would be moved. So the, you know, relocating this picture is kind of works on a couple levels. Okay. And you know, that is a good point that that you bring up. It has been kind
of switched around and all that kind of stuff. So as long as it doesn't look wonky with whatever's in the background, then like I said, I'm, I'm good with it. So pictures are still
on the fence. The fence is no integrity has been bothered with the fence. Defense is defense. You take away the pictures and you really can't tell what's on the fence anyway because it's scattered out instead of mushed in, you know?
Yeah. So that that hasn't changed anything. Okay, so. Do we need to make a motion to make those changes? Yeah, yeah. Do I have a motion? Can you
tell me it's the Mr. Dorsett photo? Yes, the church photo. And remember what the third one was moving forward. Sign the
actual sign. The plate. Yes. The silver plate. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll need a motion. Okay. So can I get a motion to
make those changes? Make a motion that we make updates to the relocating the signs on the Bahamian was the Black Heritage project at Dorsett Park to for
the three pictures that we discussed. Okay, I'll second. Roll call vote. Miss Hickey. Yes, miss Taylor? Yes. Chair.
Arpatel. Yes. One other thing. Can I ask when they do that, when will Will parks let me know? Because I go up there and I look at that. So I'd like to know when they go up there and
do it for sure. Yeah. Okay. That does it for new business. We are at staff. Sorry. Oh, we had a late request to go over
an idea. It's in your packet. It's a single sheet. There's a photo on the back of it. Yeah, I saw that. And you guys can
discuss if you want to add it to the agenda, like for moving forward, like the kaleidoscope. Yes. And this is in cooperation
with the garden Club. Is that right? Yeah. So the Garden Club has a fund they're using and
maybe we could help out with it. I don't know, is it costaworks? So yeah, it looks like they're
looking for funding assistance to complete the purchase, right. I guess my, my only concern with us being involved in this
is that these look like pre-formed pieces. And I don't think we're allowed to consider that as public art. Yeah. You know, if they, if they were
creating a bespoke enclosure kind of thing, then that might be something, you know, with some design elements that might be something we could consider. But to my understanding, if
these are pre-formed things, then that's not really our purview. I would recommend inviting one of the representatives from the garden Club to come talk at a meeting, maybe the next meeting, and you
can talk about maybe collaborating on a call to artist for someone to design one or okay, so, you know, there's the artist who did the Sylvester the Cat, you know, he
does all kinds of cool sculptures out of metal and he could probably make one of these. Okay. Yeah, let's go ahead. And I mean, I would say that would be a great idea.
Anybody else have any? Know Belinda Eisner? Yeah. Would that be Linda Eisner? The person on this email is Sara Raza. So that's probably who we,
I think we would start with Qaeda and then maybe she could help us determine who the best representative would be. Okay.
Yeah. So who's going to do the reaching out? I can reach out to Sara and let them know that just since it's a like a
pre-formed piece of sculpture art, that we can't use it. So we can invite them to the next meeting to collaborate on a possible project with the PAC.
Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. And then I can update you on if they're going to come or what. Yeah, that sounds great. I mean, it looks like a really cool thing. My first thing was, wow,
I would really like to look at that thing. I just want to make sure that we're staying in our lane. That's a good thought. That was but but you're right. We could you know, if the
vendor is amenable, then, you know, then we could maybe collaborate on a, on a one off, you know, specially designed for that area kind of thing.
And with the same apparatus, but with the artistic surrounding. So yeah, that would be great. Megan. Thank
you. All right. Staff committee, public comments and announcements. I have a quick question and I brought it up
before, but I don't know if I was clear on it. What when I'm reaching out to. The say the the art teachers, the schools
and possibly artists that I meet out and about, which I have a couple of times, it would be really nice if I could give them a business card. I don't really, you know, I don't work for the city, so I'm not
not looking for a city business card. But I was wondering if I could just make myself a business card that has the the PAC logo on it in my name and
contact information that I could give to people to say, this is the committee I'm with. Do you think that that I mean, I'm happy to get them done, you know, like through Vistaprint
or something. If I was to put one together with, you know, what kind of approvals or is that even possible? I do not know the answer to that, but it
would probably be a question for the clerks or the city attorney. Okay. Yeah, I can tell you. Maybe I could bring it up with the city attorney at the meeting thing that we're
going to be doing. That might be a good opportunity. Yeah. I'll put this is the he has available meetings, I think next week, and I can make an appointment with him and ask
him. And I think it'd be as easy as if it is a possibility that business cards are not that much. So the PAC fund can cover $30 of business cards if
it's allowable. Well, I'll I'll go ahead and put together a mockup and I'll send it to you. So you have actually something to show them so that they can know. And I learned from this
donated art box project that I really should have made a dedicated email address for, for that stuff. So, so I will
create one to, to put on there too. And it'll just be dedicated to the art committee stuff. Okay, so I will make a
note to get that to you probably Friday. Mock up two. Megan. Okay. And I have on
Friday, you know, the public art fund, according to the ordinance, can be used in the promotion and administration of art. Okay. So, I mean, I'm
assuming the promotion would be you going out and meeting with artists to procure and promote our program. And, you know, it sounds like there's a potential for that. Yeah. So it's still
better to wait for the city attorney to make the determination. But yeah, sounds like it could be okay. Okay, I'll do a mock up. And you know, if anybody else is interested in having, you know, if we
could get, I don't know, it's just not that, you know, I would be happy to cover it too. It would just be nice because I have met a couple of artists and I've met a couple of one of
the teachers at another city event, and I didn't have anything to give him. So it would it would just be really nice to have those handy to be able to hand to people who might be interested and even potential board members, you
know, committee members or whatever. So, okay, I'll get that to you on Friday and just let me know. Okay. Let me know where that goes. Are there any other stuff? I have a request
if I could be added to automatically to the call to artist list, because there are 61 artists in the Tarpon
Springs Art Association, and they're all very interested in what's going on here. And I do an email at least once a month, sending them all kinds of information. So if I could be
added, that would be great. That might be a good idea to add us all just so we know when it goes out. And that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, that's a good idea. So thank
you. Anything else from the committee? Yeah. Eventually I went to the Tales of Tarpon with the family. They was at the Tales of Tarpon for the
Historical Society. And I did meet the the mother. I met the son a while back because I had approached him about doing a mural on the side of that red brick building that the family
shoe store. Oh, yeah. So he was he was kind of hesitant, I guess. But now that I met the mother and the father, after we finished with the economic development, the building, I'm probably going to be heading
for faculties to see if they would be interested in a mural. But that city owned property that I think the that was one of the buildings that they said that we can do. I thought the
faculty building. Is that a. I don't know if it's like a pre approved one or not. It might be something through the c r a because the c r a is for
private property, right? Where they can have the matching funds and stuff. Is it still. Oh no that's. I don't think we
can. My understanding was we stayed away from private property because the owners could then sell the building and someone could paint over it. And then it's the, you know, if
you if you have a mural painted on private property, you make an agreement to keep it with the owner at that time. And then that owner sells it to another owner. And there's no
stipulations to the new owner to protect the artwork. You see how it can get messy. Yeah. You know, not that the family would be been there. They've been there since I was a kid. I'm
seven years old, so I don't think they're going no time soon. But I went in Tarpon Springs. The thinking behind why we stick with city property. I think that's one of the buildings that when when Mr. Lucas was here, he was saying,
you know, you can check with that one, but I, I maybe I'll check with them faculties themselves to see if it's a private building or the city as an option. For sure. It's just something down the line. No time soon, but it's a project
that I like to work on eventually, if we can get it. Yeah. Well, if we if we could find out if it's public or private and if they own it or if there's a landlord to the building, like ownership of the
building would be really important to know. And then we can go from there. I can give you a little background on that. Okay. Yeah, it's owned by the family. Okay. But several years ago, we looked at putting the
public art committee, looked at putting a mural on the side of the building, and it was, oh, you seem in a lot of cities, the postcard where it says Welcome to Tarpon Springs and inside would have all the
little. So that's what was proposed at the time. And the public Art Committee went through the whole the whole thing. And there was an issue with insurance and liability.
It went to the city attorney. It was a different city attorney at the time. And they they brought up some issues of insurance and liability. And I think the committee then at the time decided, well, we'll just
back off of that. Okay. But I mean, we can look back and try to find out what exactly those issues were. Yeah. I mean, it would be if there was a proposal. Yeah. It would be a
great place for some public art. You know, I fully agree with that. If it's something that we can do, if there's a way to do it, that's not too. Yeah, she's she's already saying, you know, I've been that route. They
bought the t shirt and it didn't work. So you know something about liability. Yeah. It was an insurance and liability. And so the committee just said, well just. Yeah, we
won't do it. Okay. I had one other thing that at the last meeting, Brandon, you mentioned about the event for the arts event. So you haven't it wasn't
on the agenda here today. So yeah, my apologies. I did not get a chance to ask the city attorney if the art committee funds would be usable to send
you or other committee members to the conference. The Florida Professional Public Art Association conference. So maybe when you check in with
them on the other issue, you can bring that up as well. Okay. The business card issue. The business card. Yeah. Okay. Is it kind of falls in a similar
category. I mean, it's promotion of the arts of our public art program. So, you know, I could see well and learning how to, how to do the promotion is important, you know, learning different
aspects of public art, you know, environment would be super helpful. I, I, when I read the thing, it would be, I was like, well, maybe that could give us some insight into really how to
get artists excited about our call to artists and, and stuff like that. So, but has it. When is it the end of this month. So I don't think. Oh, I thought it
was late. Oh no, it's the end of April, so it'd be coming up pretty soon. Yeah. Ain't gonna work next year. It might be worth if I make the appointment to talk about business cards.
Would you like me to talk about the backlist? Being private building, but wanting to do a mural? Would you like me to discuss that with him? Just
wait. Because I've already spoken to The Sun. He was hesitant, and so I don't want to just be like, spinning our wheels. Maybe next year, you know, maybe another time. Okay, but so I'll check on that. I will check on the business
cards and then I'll check for the future because there's an annual f a p a p conference. So while I'm there, I'll check on that. Okay. And I mean, yeah,
if you check on that and you know, in the next week or two, I mean, I, I could potentially make it down there. Okay. But,
you know, just let me know. But you know, if, if it, if there's some issue or the timeline is too close, then yeah, definitely check for next year would be great. And I would
like to attend too. And I'm retired. So time is on my side. Yeah, I would like to, but unfortunately my schedule won't permit this year. Yeah. So maybe next year, maybe next
year. Okay, so we're on to staff. Yes, I have one thing and that is the last thing that's in your packet. Yes. The
clerks are having like a refresher kind of course, on April 21st at 9 a.m. at City Hall Auditorium, and they're meeting with boards board
members. And it's just kind of a refresher about sunshine laws. You can ask any questions, clarify. Can I talk to this person here? Can I talk to this? You know, like it's just going
to kind of go over the rules and regulations of being on a board. I'm excited about it. I am I, you know, I, I'm sure it's going to be quite dry, but
I think it'll be really informative too, because I have general ideas about what's supposed to happen, but it would be really nice to, you know, have formalized
introduction to it. So I'll be there. I'll be there. Excellent. I'm going to try to be here. Okay. I know 9 a.m. I was like
9 a.m. Right. And then I would like to introduce you guys to Hennessey. Weller. Hennessey is the patron services coordinator for cultural and civic services. She's going to become the new
public art secretary. Hi. How are you? Hi. Good to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thank you all for having me. I'm super excited to help out. I prior to working with the city, I worked
in the art museum world down in Saint Pete. So this is very near and dear to my heart, and I'm excited to work on a bunch of projects with you all. Super well hope we. Hopefully we
don't run you off like we ran Brandon off. Yeah. No, we're we're happy to have you helping us out. I know speaking for me personally, I need a lot of
help. So happy to have you on board. Happy to be here. Thank you so much. And the last thing I wanted to say was thank you
to Brandon, and I wish you farewell. We're having a party for him on Friday, April 10th from 1 to 3 at the Heritage Museum. Come have some cake and
make him blush. Yeah. Will do. But you guys know I'll probably start crying. But I just want to thank you so much, and I'm going to miss you. Thank you. It's been great working with all of you. You know, not just
these last few months, but even helping Diane out for the last few years and getting to know each of you. And I've really enjoyed it. I've learned a lot, a lot more than I ever thought I would learn about public art,
especially in Tarpon Springs. But it's been fun and I wish everybody lots of luck moving forward. I hope you get some good projects going next year and we'll be sure and let you know. But all kidding aside,
you have been so helpful, especially in this transition and I, when I read the the new opportunity for you, I was very excited for you. It sounds
really exciting and like a can't pass up kind of situation. So I'm really happy for you. Thank you very much. You're
welcome. Did we need to do the budget stuff? No worries. Right.
There are no current project updates. So you can see it on
the screen there. Revenues from the beginning of the fiscal year to today are $3,243. Our
expenditures through April 8th are $6,237. Our projected balance as of four eight is
$210,815. Perfect. The only the storm drain murals have been completed have been paid. No
other artists have been paid. Excellent. Do we have any public comments? I just wanted
to thank you all for working with the Sustainability Division on the Storm Drain murals. It has been a pleasure. It's so exciting seeing something come to fruition in a pretty short amount of time,
all things considered. I guess. So thanks to the, you know, cultural services, the committee, our stormwater and streets department, city manager. It has just been super cool and I look forward to
hopefully doing another phase. So maybe, I don't know, fall. We'll talk about that, you know, for future. So yeah, I mean this seemed pretty quick and painless. So I say let's go
nuts. Yeah. Awesome. Terrific. One last thing that I forgot to say. I just wanted to give a shout out to Joan, our former chair. She's really helped me with the illuminated art box
stuff. She has a lot of knowledge about processing the images and how all that stuff works. So I'm, you know, this is my first time and things, you know, there's been some glitches, but I'm planning on
making changes. But I wanted to just give a shout out to Joan. She is super helpful. Awesome. Great. Yeah. And I want to
thank Holly for helping me with all the storm drains. Thank you. All right. So we are ready to close out. The next regular
meeting is going to be Wednesday, June 10th, 2 p.m. in City Hall, second second floor media room. And we are
adjourning at 3:07 p.m. See you guys there.