Oh, you're not on the. That's good. I was actually so it is actually 6:00 for my watch. But we go by this lot. So yes,
we're going on city. Yes, we're going on City Park. Now that's the real time city. What is the city? Two minutes behind the rest of the world. Yeah, it
always is. Yeah. That's correct. And, you know, it's easy enough, you know. No, I want to keep it that way. Not my area. It's useful to you. A little bit
slower. That's so funny. I'm not exactly an on time person, so I like that extra two
minutes. In a meeting. It's called. Yes. This is the second
floor. Media room. Second floor media room.
It sounds like the commercial. The the the jingle. Right? Your next piece for Tarpon for miss next Friday.
Next Friday. Okay. We're going to have someone in from Nami. Are you familiar with Nami? I've heard of Nami. But remind me what that is. It's called the National Institute of
Mental Illness. Okay. Okay. And they work with families who have loved ones. She's going to tell us, but basically, it's families who are having major challenges with a person. And
Nami supported us. And people loved Paulie. Great. Okay. There she is. Denise is ready. Denise is taking action.
Where's your gavel, madam? I know, okay. So welcome at 6:00. And I'm calling the sustainability committee to
order tonight. August 21st, 2025. We. It says 6:00 on our clock in the media room. But we have discussed that it is not
atomic time, so we might be. It might be 602 on our watch or three. So miss Holly can can we
have roll call? Let's do roll call. Chairperson Marino here. Siobhan Meehan here. And Megan
present. Does everyone. And has everyone on the committee had a chance to look at the minutes from the last meeting? I so
moved to approve them. I second all in favor? We have a full house tonight. Which I'm so blessed has happened for one of
the first times in the history of this experience. We've been here by ourselves a lot, doing a lot of talking about sustainability. But it's really
exciting to have members of the community here. And do we have any public comments from the community, or is this part of
presentation discussion? Okay, so even though we have a lot of people here tonight, we don't have public comments. We invite anyone from the community to
come. If you have something burning that the Sustainability Committee needs to hear in order to help advise and bring
us into bring to awareness to the Board of Commissioners. But thank you for being here. So the first item on our agenda tonight is Union Academy
Neighborhood Revitalization Committee. And you have a speaker on your behalf. Yes. Proper. Reverend Crawford,
would you like to stand up at the podium and speak? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good
afternoon. It's a honor to have. You all. Surface. Turn that we
have as a local church regarding Christ first years in existence. I was posed with
opportunity to speak and ability committee. I had no idea what that was about. These. Everyone for job and explain that in my understanding, based
on what she said things sustainability committee and group is a potentially powerful advocate for the Tarpon Springs.
And that's that's how I see it. That's what I got from your glean from your sharing and every community, every community needs advocates,
someone, a body to officially speak up for the people at large. And that's how I see you all. And wherever I see ladies together, I know stuff is going
to get done. Okay, so I really appreciate having the opportunity to speak to you all, even though you all are new committee. But I know that your task is certainly challenging and I can tell you from
experience with other cities that there's always a need for a powerful advocate to express what's going on. And so I hope that you all will be to pass on
one of the concerns that we have as a church in this community, our need, and we have a tremendous need for repairs over the years. We have some damage from the weather
and hurricanes and things like that. So we're in the business right now trying to advocate, get some advocacy and support from whoever and whatever agencies that are available to help finance some of our needs.
We got a roof concern. We have internal problems with the ceilings. We definitely are in need of a revamping of our
bathroom situation because that none of them are are handicapped accessible. We will be in great appreciation if we got some support there. Air conditioning for sure. You know,
being in Florida, you definitely need a system that's working. So we are advocating and we are involved with contact with other fund raising organizations who can help
support us in doing that if we not if when we do get the support we need, we certainly will be a better presentation for our community in terms of what our facility will be able
to continue to do to support what we are trying to do. So as the advocate, the advocate Committee, which I perceive that you all potentially will
be for a multiplicity of areas in our city, I just hope that you all will will be able to pass on to the powers that be, the needs of at least this particular religious community
to get some support for some badly needed renovations for the projects that we have right now. So that that's basically what our concern was to at
least bring it to you guys and you all can hopefully, maybe recommend some other specific agencies in our city that we can touch base with for our concerns. But I do appreciate
you all giving us the opportunity to come and getting the information that you guys are pretty much a fairly new, relatively new committee. I hope you ladies will be encouraged. Encouraged. Because
what y'all do and what y'all potentially will bring to our community is definitely going to be impacting. I'm I'm speaking futuristic. I believe y'all going to do that. And I
as I said earlier, whenever ladies come together things are going to get done. So I would appreciate the opportunity to speak to you all to share share our concern. If anybody have
any questions or. I think maybe some clarification, here we are in a new committee. We have been around for many years. Oh okay. We okay. My mistake. Put
together a sustainability plan for the city that's been adopted and has been used. Okay, that's good news. But you're
raising this issue is very interesting because in sustainability we often think environmentally, which is
something. The Union Academy neighborhood could think about because one of the big issues is Florida heat. So how do you
get rid of heat? Will you put trees in? And there's just been a the arborist who unfortunately isn't here anymore. A big plan has just
been adopted to put make sure that there are trees within three trees within everybody's sight from their home. Yeah. So that trees make such a
difference in terms of reducing the heat. In a neighborhood. So that's something to think about. So that's environmentally then culturally what sustains a
community? Well, in many communities a church and religion sustains a community. Absolutely. So it is appropriate for you to talk to
us about how to sustain a community. You sustain it through churches, schools, neighbors, the arts, and etcetera. Also, economically, there has to be economic
success to sustain a community. So housing, jobs, transportation and also issues of safety make sure the sidewalks are okay, the roads
are okay, Street lights and health issues, pollution, clean air, making sure the trash is all collected, having clean water. These are also things
that the Union Academy neighborhood can think about and think about. You know, prioritizing what's needed. And
and it is the case that this committee can be an advocate and raise issues through Holly,
who is our city representative. She works for the city. We are all volunteers. Okay. You know, we live in Tarpon. And so. One
of the reasons we invited Katie and Zeb and anyone that she wanted was to hear from the neighborhood. What sort of
issues are important. And we certainly hear from you that making sure that a church or many churches in your
neighborhood are sustained. Absolutely. Thank you. Yes. Thank you Carol. Thank you. How long has the that church
building in that community been part of Tarpon Springs? What's the historical aspect of that? Over 60 years. 60 years? Okay.
And I'm sorry I missed hearing the name of the church, Oak Hill Church of God in Christ. Okay, okay. And was it damaged
primarily from hurricanes, or is it been kind of long term inability to keep things long term? But the recent weather
situations that we've encountered has aspirated the situation's a lot, lot worse, lot better lot. Yes. The roof is compromised. Oh, yes. I
would love to share a resource. All right. So at the let's see go back in time July 22nd meeting of the Board of Commissioners. I believe Miss
Taylor was there. The Board of Commissioners passed a resolution saying that they support the work of a nonprofit. So the state of Florida has a nonprofit community development
financing institution. It is called the Solar and Energy Loan Fund. It's called self. Okay. So self self, they are an incredible resource for exactly
the kinds of things that you are talking about. So they provide low cost loans. So it's not free money, but it's lower cost than you would get from a bank. And they also work with
everyone on their ability to pay the loan. So it's not based on credit. So essentially as an organization, a church whatnot, you would just need to show that you have the ability to
pay back, but they focus specifically on roofs, on exactly the kinds of things you're talking about replacing AC units. Right. Because it's so hot. And their concern is everyone needs a healthy, you
know, environment to live and work and operate in. They also, you know, give loans for other efficiency projects. So anything along the lines of like you're saying your your restrooms, water conservation,
water efficiency, those I believe would certainly fall under their offerings. So I want to definitely put you in touch with our we have a Gulf Coast representative who's he's
based in Saint Petersburg, but I'm in touch with him about, you know, essentially recommending their services to our residents, to community members. Again, businesses, organizations. So I think that
would be the best. That would be a really great start. The sustainability program in and of itself, of course we don't, unfortunately. I wish that we could do loans and things. That would be a direct. But the way
that I see it is making these connections and helping people get the resources that they need. So this is a great, you know, platform to launch this conversation. And again, just to make sure that people know
that this is a tool that exists. So this is an incredible organization. They've learned, I think, over $50 million in projects. They help people. You know, their focus is low and moderate income areas, but they don't refuse, you know,
applications from anyone. So it's really an inclusive, you know, option for anyone who might have had, whether it's storm damage or long term, you know, issues with their building maintenance. So it's
it's so I've given you his email and this also has my email on it. So this would be my recommendation for step number one. And see where they
can take you. And you know the funding as far as raising funds I think that's you know, something that we're we're just we're giving you a public platform to say, hey, this is a
need. And I hope that that it will be heard. So let me give you this. Thank you. First. Thank you. This is me on the front and then this is self. His name is I appreciate that.
That's his email. And I can get his phone number for you too if that's easier. Yes please. I'll follow up with you. Okay. That's great. Yes. Thank you. You're very welcome. So I
recently read about the church. Church on the Bayou is closing. And they they are going to divvy up the proceeds from the
sale, which is going to be 2.4 million. So it says here that as they were decimated by the hurricane so that they have to
close and sell, so that money will be disbursed to some two dozen area schools, churches and charitable organizations.
So I can share this with you. Okay. And then you could get reach out. Get Ahold of them. There's this elder Dolores Wilson, okay. And she's the
lady to contact. Yes. Okay. And I think you would be a great recipient of some of that money. You know, we we we can maybe
maybe we can do a letter or something that we. Well, I think it has to be done quickly because I read that article in the paper and it almost gave the impression, like, already
decided who's going to get it, so I would call tomorrow. Yeah, I will okay. So what's her name again? Siobhan, if you would repeat that Dolores Wilson.
Yeah. Dolores Wilson. Dolores Wilson. Okay. Does it have a contact provided or. No. Okay. It didn't. I read the article
in the paper. Okay. It was it, wasn't it? In the beacon? Yeah, it was in the beacon. The beacon? Yeah. And then there's another woman, Susan. Conrad. Okay. Susan. Conrad. Conrad.
Yeah. Conrad. I mean, they're listing where they're going to give the money, but, you know, they said they were giving 300,000 to the Shepherd center.
Yes. Yeah. I mean, that's the only amount that. But I would contact them immediately. Immediately. We will do that. You have a phone number. Do you have a phone number for either of those? No, it doesn't say in
here. But, you know, maybe church on the bayou. Church on the bayou. Yeah, yeah, we'll find it. That's great. See? Okay. I don't know if anyone's there because it got ruined.
There may be an answering machine that we can reach out. Tells you who to call. We'll reach out. Reach out. Thank you. And you never know. You know, if that. If that door is closed, there might be other doors.
They might be able to recommend something else. Yeah. Just starting a conversation. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay. How many people are in your congregation?
60 by 60, 65. And half of those are kids. Teenagers. Yeah. That's great. Okay, I think I
heard you mention you would give a support letter of support. Well, we'd have to see if that's feasible. You know, I was just throwing that out as a
possibility, but to email to be sure to get it. Yeah. Okay. Denise would we'd have to see if that's possible. We would. I
just have to find out about the legality of it. Yeah, right. I do not know about the if that's a mechanism that we can use, but I will find out. Okay. Okay.
The phone number possible. It will happen. The phone number listed for church on the Bayou. Again, I don't know if anyone would be there, but this is the
phone number listed. It is of course (727) 937-3795. And if I find any other contact info before we leave for the evening,
I will share that. Okay. And I would suspect that an answering machine would answer because this has been in the newspaper.
Okay. And so everyone and there aren't calling. But I think that what you're asking is, is a reasonable request from them.
You're in tarpon. You're a church, okay. And so on. All right. Anything else. So we really appreciate you coming tonight. And you're welcome to
come back any time. We really have other things you want to talk about, Katie. The community that was. This is the
main one. Yeah. Have any grants that you can assist us or, you know, anyone giving out and how
we. Isn't there? A the city used to give out a grant for the facade of buildings. So there I am not sure what
programs are current or what funds there are, but I believe that is through the historic preservation. I thought it was Karen Lemons who told me it might be, but it might have to
be like in the CRA. I'm not exactly sure of all the stipulations of if it's current and what the location would be, but I can also look into that. I will ask around. I do have a
lot of obviously peers. There are a lot of other cities that probably have, you know, similar things happening. So I can definitely ask if anyone knows of any, you know, county level resources. The city per
se doesn't have a grant program, but there are probably some community level ones that, you know, we could at least, you know, direct you to. So I'll
see if I can find something along those lines. Would you like his phone number? Sure. That would be. That would be
2726 9110 7269 1107. Okay. That's your cell. Got it accessible any hour of the day okay. (727) 269-1107. And you
can underline underscore in large capital letters accessible any hour of the day. And I literally mean that. And as is the church building, a
historical building, it's a is it a Tarpon Springs historical site. Is it historical registered with. It's it's not on the registry, but it is. I'm
not sure it needs to be. It's old enough to be a contributing. Oh, absolutely. Okay. Do you
think that that might also be a good board to talk to? Well, the problem with the problem with having a structure listed as historic, it does limit some
of the things that limits what you can do. They have to be done exactly correct. It can qualify you for certain things, but it can be very restrictive
in other things. Right? So if once it is listed on if it were the National Register, for example, then you have to go through a lot of, you know, specific processes to do
updates to the building and things of that nature. So just something to keep in mind. Maybe that's a future thing. If you get it to the point where it's fixed up and you want to
say, let's help preserve it, you know, that could be something down the line to consider. So yeah. Coming to CRA with Carolyn, I do not know. I do not know. What's the
what's the address of the church? Are you in this? Yeah. Katie. Bengals 703. Mango circle 703I would have to look
at the. So there is. Do you all know about the next Thursday night. It's the placemaking meeting. Have you all seen about that. It's the 28th at
the recreation center and they are talking about the it would it's sort of an update to just all of the the again placemaking planning. But they
have expanded sort of I think the boundary of of the area that they're looking at. So I don't know exactly where your building is, but it still would be of interest, of course, to
you all for your, for your neighborhood as well. So I believe that's next Thursday at 6 p.m. if I'm not mistaken. I think that's right. Okay. Katie, you you sent that out so you
know about it. Okay, good. Yeah. Those are all places that. Yeah, hopefully we can appreciate. You want to say something? I
just wanted to want to step up
to the microphone so you can be heard. You. Just to add on to
what Elder Crawford was asking to. Our parking lot was washed out, too. So if they can, you know, when you're doing it to to redo our parking area and it
needs we need painting for the outside and stuff all that. Just to add those are a couple of things. Just to add on to it.
Isn't there a. What is it? The people that build houses, humanity or habitat for humanity. They typically used
to have one on 19, but they often have paint. I know people who had lots of houses and rented them. They would go there and buy the paint because
it was really inexpensive. Sometimes they gave it away. So they. Yeah. You can reach out.
So I know they make a bad batch, fix it all gray or all white or whatever. And he'll buy it on his. Yeah. So there's ways of getting affordable paint. And
then just. Yeah. Well thank you very much for coming to habitat for humanity and tell them what's going on. And maybe they have ideas, they might have
resources. Yeah. Good evening. I just wanted to say that on the first. Say your name. Oh, I'm Zeb Atkinson. My address is 621 East Orange Street. I live
in Tarpon Springs. I kind of Holly at one of one of the meetings that we had for a November. The first event that we're going to have is called.
It's like a Future Future of Tarpon Springs event. We're going to have. Hopefully, I got to talk to the mayor and see if he can come out, and we'll talk about what the sustainability
of Tarpon Springs look like, especially in the what is it? I want to say cat but it's not cat Union Academy area. And then there were some other things that I've been concerned
about since, since we moved here. And that is the docks because they always flood. And then in this last storm, the fruit bowl area. So looking for
what the sustainability plan looks like for those areas. A few years back we spoke with the historical lady. I forgot her name Karen, I think.
Historical lady. She does all the historical stuff. Oh, Tina Bucuvalas I don't think it was Tina. But anyway, she moved. Yeah, okay. Anyway, we talked about the exact same thing that
that they were talking about. Is that a lot of times if you put your property or like the church as a historic designation, you can't change the windows, you can't change
the site. You have to jump through hoops to do that. So several years ago, we were looking at different ways, not necessarily to get around it, but to work within it so that
we could still say these are historical buildings or historical places, but not have that restriction on making changes if needed. And then several years ago, there was a
meeting at the recreation center, and we actually talked about possibly and this would be under sustainability, looking at what it would take
to. Have a solar infrastructure. There is a place in, I think I want to say Sarasota that is completely storm resistant. All the electric lines are under
the ground. Yeah. And it's run on solar, right? That's that's in Manatee County. Okay. Manatee County. Yeah. And they they survived the hurricanes really well. Right. And that
may be something that I'm not trying to put more work on your plate, but, you know, that might be something that we could also look at. And to see what, what it would take to get us there, if that's what the
majority of the community wanted to do. So that's all I just wanted to invite you to hijack Holly for that. You said it's November 1st. November the 1st. Okay. It's a Saturday. Saturday. All right. Thank you,
thank you. Is it worth is it going to be. It's going to be at the. Union Academy at the Union Center. Just just to let
you know those are things that are on our plate that the city is looking at. There is an a vulnerability assessment action
plan. That was was it formerly. Yes. It has been received adopted or sorry. Yes. Formally accepted by the state of Florida by the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection. And so yes, that is a great point, Denise. So we did a vulnerability assessment which essentially looks at the flooding issues that you were
alluding to. But aside from that, of course, is, you know, the stormwater issues that we've had last fall with multiple hurricanes, you know,
that doesn't totally fall under sustainability in the sense of my department will not be managing projects, but it is under the purview of things that we talk about and connect with other departments. So you
will have seen recently at some of the Board of Commissioners meetings that they are talking about how, you know, to best tackle some of those projects. And I do believe we have some
state funding that we're going to be receiving for some of the stormwater stuff has already been completed at the docks. There will be more of that. And just general stormwater infrastructure, you know, roads
and streets, all of that. If you go back and watch the most recent couple of meetings, they're talking about those issues and making sure that those are, you know, things that the city has funds for
because they are they are very pressing issues. So but no, I think that's it's really great to to be able to relate that back to sustainability, because, you know, if there is continual
flooding, it's not sustainable to be able to, you know, drive through certain parts of the city. Right? So it's kind of looking ahead and what does that look like. And the vulnerability assessment does
that. It looks at potential conditions in say 2040 2070 snapshots forward in time. What will it look like with tidal flooding? What will it look
like with extreme rainfall. And, you know, stormwater events. So we have I'll make sure we actually update some maps online and have the most up to
date. But yeah, it really helped us to see the reality in comparison to maps that were just projecting the potential damage that could happen in
Tarpon Springs with 100 year storm. And then when we had the storms last year, it confirmed a lot of the areas that did get
impacted by the storm. And one of the issues connected with that, which is really important. You know, we talk about the flooding and, you know,
neighborhoods being put it, it's people's lives that are being destroyed. And and a community and city life. So if
we continue to have this sort of damage and flooding and, and so forth, what are people going to do? Well, they'll probably leave. And then what happens to
a community in the in a city when people start leaving and everything's disruptive? So in terms of sustainability, I
often think a lot about human lives and families and communities, not just physical structures. And, and I think that that is partly why talking
about the viability of churches, because in for certain people, that's the hub, the community. Right. And if that's not there, the community gets people's
lives, get really injured. So. I'm really happy that you came because this is a discussion that we don't have so much. And
I think that the more we can look at sustainability in a much broader way will be helpful. Yeah, definitely. You
know, I hope that you might be able to look on the new city website and pull up the sustainability plan. It's just it's it's very simple. I mean,
there's 50 action steps that are under the areas that I mentioned to you before, which is environmental and social and
environmental, social and economic. But see how you might play a role in participating in, in sustainability, because I
think that we all have to work together. That's the vision, is that we we connect carbon in reality, not just, you know, as
a website, but that we really are connecting tarpon as humans. So it may be helpful. I mean, as you can see, there's three of us here. And those of you
who have volunteered for committees, city committees know that this is a low number and we need members. So it may
be very important if we could have a member from the, you know, Union Academy neighborhood to sit on this committee and and raise these
issues and talk with us about what's going on in your neighborhood and where we live. And. And then we can move
forward. So if all of you could think of somebody. Just just to inform you, I'm, I just had my book open to Community, equity
and community and the action 36 just to give you an idea says demonstrate progress and appointing local advisory board members that reflect the gender,
racial and ethnic diversity of the community. So so far, that's hasn't happened because we haven't had any applications. I mean, we've had we've had
mostly women, a few men on the board. Action 37 partner with community organizations to maintain an inventory of civic organizations, neighborhood
associations and local service providers, which can be used to address neighborhood specific needs. So those are these are things that we are working on.
They don't, you know, there's 50 actions. They don't happen overnight. We've had to prioritize the ones that are most demanding and the ones that were weather related and
resiliency related were the ones that were at the top of the list. Since our hurricanes happened last year. But the people are are the top priority.
You know, when it comes to people being displaced as a result of that kind of storm.
So we thank you so much for participating, for thinking of us coming here tonight, presenting your concerns, because this is exactly what we
hope will be a regular, a regular dialog. And please think of someone who could sit on this committee. Good. Someone is talking about
sitting on this committee, but I won't call the name. But it's not like giving it much thought and pushing them. I don't know if they're going to come, but
as far as if you already own another board, I know if you own some, if you own certain boards, you cannot be on. No, that's correct one. Yes, yes,
yes. You can only be right. You can't split yourself up. That wife wanted to be on this committee, but we meet the same
time. The Main Street people meet the main street. And so she wants to do that. She had two of them. Yeah. She didn't
even do the. Oh she didn't. Yeah. I like doing it, but I'm on the. Right. Well get the
word out there. We would really appreciate it. Yeah. Yes. Anything else. Thank you. Take your time. Yes. Thank you for
coming. Thank you for coming. Thank you. We will I will be I will do some research and see what anything I can find and certainly send it your way. Thank you. Very welcome. Thank
you. You're welcome to stay. You do not have to leave. You're more than welcome to stay. But if you have somewhere else to go, we understand that
also. Goodbye. Yeah. Thank you. You did such a good job for this. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. I'll start attending, but just send me a text and say,
you know, let me just let me know. And I'm going to try to come and attend a public person. Oh, okay. Start coming. Yeah. It's the third Thursday of every month. Right. That is it
this time. Yes. I'll text you. Okay. Thank you all. Thank you for coming tonight. Getting on the board. So there is an application. It's listed on the website. It's available also
through the city clerk's office. Okay. So the official application, if you go to the city's website and you look under boards and committees. So it's it's in that same you click and it's boards and
committees. It'll say black but then it'll also say appointed boards and committees. And that's where you want to go. And there will be a link to a form. And you just fill out the form and you express on the form which committees you're
interested in serving on and submit it to the clerk's office. And then they process it through, and typically I'll look over it and just make sure it meets, you know, the people have the interest and, you know, maybe a little bit of
background or something about why you're interested in serving on that particular committee. And then it would go before the Board of commissioners for approval. It's a pretty straightforward process. Yeah. Citizen of you
have to live in the city limits of Tarpon Springs. That is the requirement. Yes. So that's that is the you have to be 18 years of age and live in the city limits. And those are you
know, we can't waive those. So yeah. Thank you all for coming.
So our next item on the agenda for discussion. Thank you, Robin for coming back is Robin Sanger is talking about the
peace pole. Yes. A couple of things to chat with you guys about tonight. First of all, thank you for inviting me to be here with you this evening. And
I have. To welcome back and take a picture of it, because we don't want to waste ink and and waste paper. But the International Day of Peace is
September 21st, 2025. And on that date, Tarpon Springs will be dedicating our first peace pole. Wow. It will be down at the. We hope it's going to be
called the Peace Park eventually, but down by the end of the trail where the dog park is, the splash park is, and the kayak launch to the left of the kayak launch is a field, and
that's where we're putting the peace pole. So here's the images of it. We have eight languages, including American Sign Language and Braille that are going to that are on this
pole. It's already here. It's gorgeous. We have the wording is may peace prevail on earth. So one of the things says May peace prevail in our community.
May peace prevail on earth. It also has the same language. May peace prevail on earth. In Greek, Spanish, Hebrew, Chinese,
French, Arabic and Greek. Did I say Greek? Greek? So several languages? Several 8888 okay, so definitely Greek, Spanish,
English, American Sign Language, Braille, Chinese. Hebrew. Anyway, you get the idea. And we also have flags from around the world that are going to be
placed at the bank at the along the base. It's just a natural mulch that's going to be put there. We've just ordered two benches, actually, from a local company. Wayne Armand's company
has donated the two benches that are going to be there to beautiful benches. Shout out to Wayne Almond for doing that, because this is a fabulous gift that he's given us. So this is
a partnership between the City of Tarpon Springs, Rotary and Peace for Tarpon. Peace for Tarpon and rotary have been working on this project for over four years. So the wheels
move a little slowly sometimes, but eventually it does get done. So this is really a joyous occasion for us and for the city. So this is going to be an intimate gathering place where someone might have a small
memorial service, someone could do yoga, someone could meditate. It could be, you know, a community space with a physical
representation there of peace. Because we have athletic fields, we have a war memorial. We need a peace pole. And now we've got
one. Thanks to the Parks and Rec board for getting behind this as well. They were very, very supportive of this. And what's interesting is the International Day of Peace was
started at the United Nations. And the theme for 2025 for the International Day of Peace is Advancing Peace through Sustainable Development. So
that fits in beautifully with this actually advancing peace through Sustainable Development goals. And their direct link to
world peace. So I love the fact that this organization is linking sustainable development and peace, which is absolutely fantastic. Of course, peace for
Tarpon works on peace for the community, individual peace. You know that the same type of goal that we have. But peace poles are intended to inspire
unity among peoples of all cultures. This is actually rotary. Rotary has a big thing about peace as well. And their statement is peace. Poles are intended to inspire unity among
people of all cultures, ethnicities, and backgrounds, and its placement furthers rotary and the goal of building a culture of peace throughout the world. So rotary is very
strong inclination towards peace. Of course, peace for Tarpon does, and it's really wonderful that the city has stepped up to share this vision with us. So we're extremely delighted and happy about this.
So please, if you took a picture of this and I asked Duffy Smith at the rec department, created this for us, I asked him for the PDF of this. If you can take if you can
share it with people, we'd love to have a robust turnout. It is also. Denise, you're going to like this. It is the new moon. It is the summer solstice and
it is the International Day of Peace. Equinox, Equinox. So we're hopefully over summer. I think it's fantastic. Anyway, so this is wonderful news and
please spread the word we want to have. Thank you. Did you go with it. Get it okay. All right I asked him to send it to me so I can also forward that to you all. And then I can print one
and post it, you know, can you send that to all of us too? Yes. That would be great. And it or Holly will. Right. I can do that. Okay. Thank you and share it with your networks. Put it
on your socials. Get it out there. We want to have a huge turnout. So we also there's going to also be a sign there that talks about the day of
peace or the peace pole where that came from, describing that what it means and so forth. There's informational peace. And this was actually inspired. The many, many inspirations have come together to do this.
But it's really cool when a plan comes together like this and something actually happens. So we're very, very happy. So think about great weather and great community on that day. No
hurricane, no hurricane. You don't say it like that. That's what I was talking. That's what I was hinting at. Siobhan, you don't have to. It's okay. No. No talkie. Okay, okay. Thank
you. The the peak is middle, so we're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. Okay, great. Thank you. I'm so happy. So. At
any rate, that's my story about the peace pole. So it's something we can all be proud of or isn't it. Doesn't it feel wonderful? I am so excited. It's wonderful. I'm so excited
that this is happening. Oh, gosh. Me too, me too, me too. And there will be refreshments. And there will be. Of course. We're inviting the mayor has is going to welcome everybody. We've invited the city manager
and all of our folks. But the city manager, Dunedin was one of our direct inspirations because they have three peace poles. And their city manager said, please invite me. I want
to be there too, because she's very supportive of Dunedin's initiative as well. So that is item A or one. Yes. Item. Item. The next item. Next item is
creating a pathway to preservation. I love this a pathway to preservation. So it's similar to what you were just talking about that fairly soon with sea level rise and climate change or however you
want to frame that. Some of our lots in Florida are not only not going to be desirable to build on, they're not going to be possible to build on. And as you said, people who experience
the loss, the loss of their home because of a hurricane may not feel great about staying there. They might move. In fact, many of my friends have moved elsewhere after this last round
of hurricanes. It's really sad. But at any rate, there has to be a way for for the sustainability Committee is a great y'all can be great leaders in this initiative. So
I'll tell you about the groundwork that I laid to see if there was some receptive receptivity for this. And it is. And also there's the idea that
someone may inherit a property and the heirs don't want to build a house on that. You know, they might live in some wonderful ville, USA, and they don't want to move to our wonderful ville. They want to,
you know, do something with that property. It might not be feasible, but we want to have a pathway to preservation for those properties to go into preservation. So initially we had a field trip because I was
inspired by Leslie Neiman, who's an artist in. Aripeka, and she and her group, she's formed a nonprofit, and it was
to enhance the green, the Green Coastal corridor, which extends all the way from North Florida down to just about us. Well, now we have a huge piece of preservation land just north of
the West. Klosterman Preserve, the West Klosterman Preserve. And this is an opportunity to extend that corridor and for us to play a significant role in preserving these these
properties. So I invited Tommy Kiger and Renee Vincent, our planner, to take a field trip with me up to meet Leslie Neiman. And we went to her
studio and she kind of went through what the process that she went to with her. Newman. Newman. Yeah, yeah, I was wondering. Yeah, it's Leslie Newman. Yeah, yeah. I just
wondered if you catch that. Oh yeah. Yeah. So it Leslie Newman is a beautiful a beautiful artwork I love. She does encaustic. The hot hot wax painting. Yes. But she was very
gracious and shared with us how they created so much land and preservation that Aripeka is now the smallest black bear habitat in the state of Florida, which is incredible. And she showed the before and after
pictures of all the land that they had acquired. And it was very inspiring. And Renee and Tommy, I think they they came away with a lot of inspiration from that as well. So I let that kind of gel for a little
bit. Then I did share the information again with I had a meeting with Renee Vincent again to say what kind of properties would be desirable for this? Would it be all coastal property or all whatever? She said? No, she
said, a lot of our inland properties, like the Publix parking lot, anything that used to be a swamp still wants to be a swamp. So whenever it rains, all those properties flood and
you know exactly where they are. Exactly. In fact, there was a sawmill on Athens Street right by Athens and Hope somewhere around in there. There used to
be a sawmill there. So it was active logging and getting rid of all these cypress trees that are part of our our land. She said it the more land preserved, the better. I mean, there's fine tuning of who's going to
take care of it, how is it going to be maintained and all those types of things. But the big picture of it is that any land to preserve is desirable, rather than if it's not
feasible to develop for one reason or another, let's preserve it. So I met with our city manager and just shared the idea with him. He said he thought it sounded like a very
positive idea, and then the mayor had his door open and he was interested in what we were talking about. So I went in and shared with him. The city attorney came into that meeting, shared with him. So there is a
little bit of knowledge here in the city of people who are aware of this idea. I did share it with Denise, and I'm sure I've shared it with Carol and also with Holly. So those are
those are the main steps. But I think a pathway to preservation. What steps can someone take to do this? Now of course it's financial because Leslie Newman did not ask for people to
donate property, they were given fair market value for their property. So several years ago, Jacob Carr, one of our former commissioners, started a preservation fund. So I heard about that and I had
all these. There must be $1 million in there by now. Well, there's $904 in that account. It's something. But but talking about something good comes out
of something else and harbors needs to contribute to that fund. And when they reach a certain level of completion of their project, they will
contribute $444,000 into that fund. So in the near future that people call it the Walmart property. Oh yeah. Okay. Where they're building the what are
they call it Anclote Harbor. Anclote Harbor. So that's, you know, that's nearly half $1 million to to think about. So this is the perfect time, especially after the hurricanes
that we had last year. Some people are wanting to think of an opportunity to do something, not only to rid themselves of an undesirable property, but
also to contribute to their community. So it's really a win win. And that's the last hat I'm putting on today. Is there a tax incentive like if someone
donated it, can they deduct that on there. There is some type of tax incentive and I'm not really clear about what that is. But yes, if someone donates property to the city, there is some type of an
incentive to do that. But the city is not in the real estate business. They don't really want to buy and sell properties or, you know, so we need to create a pathway to preservation. So that's kind of
that's the goal as a not for profit then I don't see it as anything. What I see it as the sustainability committee y'all. This would give you great things to talk about, to vision
about, for you to do your own research and come up with a plan for yourselves. Would it be worthwhile talking to those who worked on the on preserving
the Klosterman property? Actually, I reached out to the West Klosterman preserve folks and said, y'all have a lot of political energy right now because of your success, your
great success. So I reached Robin. You have been busy. It's fantastic. Always busy. So I reached out to. Someone from the West, Klosterman Preserve,
and they were just about to have a board meeting, like within the next couple of days or something. I said, we're not looking for financial contributions, but some type of support or some type of thing that makes sense for you guys
to support, and that contributes to what this effort might be. Very, very broad terms, no specifics were mentioned, and it's not a financial request. But, you
know, maybe maybe I don't know, things could I don't know back to you or they. Yes, actually they did. After their board meeting, I was informed that it was presented to their board.
And the board was very positive and very excited about it and wanted to have a meeting to discuss it further. So all those things are very positive, and this could have a lot of
traction and do a lot of great things for the city, preserving, you know, increasing the habitat. You know, I mean, it starts turning wildlife, wildlife, for example, one of
my neighbors, not direct neighbor, but across the street, there were about eight homes that were built behind her house. And between those two properties was a wildlife corridor that connects to Lake
Tarpon. There were gopher tortoises there. There were otters there. I mean, it was a wildlife corridor. The developer let me just say that the corridor is gone now. So we
need to have a place for the lake turtles to come and lay their eggs for the, you know, all these things that have to happen. We need to create an opportunity for nature to flourish. And that's what I see
this as an opportunity to do, to put things a little bit back in balance. Absolutely. balanceo that's what I came here to tell you all tonight to share with
you. That's great. So are you. So you present this to us. So are you now out of it? I mean, are you sound I really have I
have peace for Tarpon is a full time job that I volunteer for, and I'm also an artist full time. So I have two full time jobs. I'm I'm on the sister city committee. I do things in the community in other ways, so
I'm kind of stretched a little tight sometimes. My my husband is also opening a business here. We have a lot going on. So the answer is yes. So the answer is last I heard, the
sustainability committee was looking for something to feast on that was really tasty. That something to something to something to for their y'all's
next vision for your next thing. So I turn it over to you. I'm happy to assist to connect dots. However I can do that. But no, I do not want to. I'm not in a position to be a leader in this
endeavor. Okay, other than laying some groundwork and connecting some initial, I appreciate everything that you've done because I never was able to connect with Leslie yet,
but I will talk to her and pick her brain about how how the project started. But I think that it sounds like you've done
much more than that already. A little groundwork connected. Some dots connect some dots just to see if the door is opened or closed. And it looks like the doors were opened. And that's, to me, is a good
indicator that something fruitful might come out of this. Yeah. Thank you for your attention and for letting me be here tonight. Thank you for coming back. Thank you for visiting us. Thank you Robin.
Absolutely. Thank you everyone. Great news. Keep up the good work. So lots of positivity.
Shared positivity indeed. Okay. Are at items for the next meeting. So we continue to talk
about this. I think that would be great. See what what we can do in the meantime. The pathway to preservation. Yeah. Yeah
sure. Okay. It would be nice to touch base with someone from the West, Klosterman, to see how they approached it, when maybe we could. Can we invite
somebody from that group to come and talk to us? We can. Certainly it would be really instructive. You know, that would be good because they've
had such a huge win in the face of just incredible, a series of incredible obstacles. Yes, indeed. It's an excellent story
to hear in order to have hope for the future. A little bit of a different consideration that obviously, you know, our discussion would have is they knew exactly which land they wanted to preserve. It was
already identified. So I think the question here would be how would how would and which group would go about identifying the lands that we, in fact, as the
city of Tarpon Springs or whatever the entity ends up being, would want to focus on? You know, that's kind of kind of in progress. I mean, when you listen to the when you
listen to the BOC meetings, it seems like properties are being discussed, meeting to meeting, you know, in regards to, I
think there demolition, I think it is coming up a little bit, but I'm not sure what the, you know, ultimate route or decision that, you know, that's up to the board, how they want
to handle that. So it will be something that we should watch and see how what their inclination is on how they want to handle it. Right. Whether it's a, you know, residential
lot situation, undeveloped, you know, combination. I, you know, I don't know we it's a lot it's a, it's a broad wide open, you know topic right now really. So
and maintenance will be a big issue. Correct. If the city you know as the places overgrown. Right. So as Robin said, you know that's a decision for you
know, the board as far as what type of property the city in fact would want to own. And I can't speak to that at all. But yeah, just it seems like
coastal would be the main, the main opportunity, like what is going to happen, for instance, on the property of the church.
Oh yeah, I was going to church at the bayou. What what's going to go in there? Right. Well, and are they going to if it's going to be developed, what is
the sustainability plan for that? Well, let's make sure we stick to the discussion that we're in right now, which is items for the next meeting. But those are great questions. So if that's something you know,
again, I don't know about the mechanism for redevelopment of that, but we do have the city does have plans for that. So maybe that's something, you know, we could discuss as what,
you know, what's even allowable there. I don't really know. And who is purchasing it I don't know. So yeah. But is there a buyer yet? There must be if
they know they already have the money. I was just using that as an example because it is, as Robin mentioned, there's certain areas that get built on that are prone to flooding
because they're not really designed for being filled and, and being built on redeveloped. And I think that I think we're,
we're going through a fairly large reality check in the state of Florida when it comes to those areas that they've always been prime real estate,
because you've got great views of the water, but it's not necessarily practical unless you're elevating what's really happening. And that is what
what is happening to a large degree. But there's there are so many properties right along the waterfront as you're even going along the bayou to Spring
Bayou that were all flooded. You know, I live on a bayou, and at the end of Chesapeake, which is a little peninsula, is
a mobile home park. And that was completely flooded, like, completely looked like a lake. And now they are most of them
are being elevated. And and the thing is, it's expensive. And so people who can't afford to elevate sort of try to sell
them or abandon. Right. So it's feasible to elevate. Right. And a lot of people along the coast are elevating, but it's very
pricey. Yes, yes, a normal house starts at 400,000. But what about these these properties that are just being abandoned? We can talk about
this. Yeah. And the next and the next meeting because I'm, I'm hoping that we can come with some preparation and research and, and be able to
offer some insight from what we find out on the pathway that, you know, these properties, obviously, they want them to have some revenue if they're if
they have the potential of having offering revenue to the city, but if they don't, then that's a whole different story. I mean, we can also look to
some other communities nationally who who have had huge challenges like Detroit with all the abandoned lots and how they they're doing much
better now, but they are quite a challenge. But we're going to have a, you know, there's going to be an international challenge with with properties
that are no longer sustainable unless you have a ton of money. Right? So I, I would think that.
Talking to planning to have that. What was the woman's name? The planning director. Renee. Vincent. Renee. Yes. Yes. To have Renee come and talk to us.
If she could come next time, we could see if she has availability. I know that this day is also sort of adjustments or something. Anyway, I will on
the third Thursday. There's another. There is a planning related meeting also. I don't think it's at the same time, but I will ask Main Street, know that Karen Lemons. Yeah,
so. But I will the same time as our so and I you know our meeting has been that the standing time since I know since. So I'd like to go to
that. Yes I know so I, I do I, I will have a conversation about that as well. So but yeah if Renee could come because she's the one that I mean she
knows a lot about what land is. Well, there's a huge connection to of course, again, what our plans say. Right. What is our comprehensive plan say? What is
our land development code? Say what does our zoning allow for in addition to, of course, floodplain management and all of these layers. So planning is really where all that comes together. So you're exactly
right. So I think that's a great point. And also codes find out like what lands like there's a property in my
neighborhood that the person owns it. Has just left it. And it's I know there's another
issue I would like to discuss. And and that's about. The coyotes that are in the city
and. And what are the regulations about the coyotes? I mean, we've had them in our neighborhood. I mean, we see them all the time. My dog wants
to play with them, but there are people who are really freaked out, and that's all I'm going to say. But I do know that there are some people have
taken things in their own hands and. People. So anyway, I think we should have a conversation about that, and it may want to
see if Barbara Hoffman could come. Who runs Booker Creek and and talk about how people live
with, you know, wildlife, wildlife and coyotes and how one overcomes fear. And and there are ■regulations, as you
said. Oh, absolutely. So, you know, because I've had issues in my neighborhood also with people, you know, let's just say someone feeds U.S. wildlife or something of that nature. Well, that is prohibited. That
is a state law that you cannot do that. So we could look into having a she'd be good. Barbara Hoffman discussion. Yeah. She's
a great she's great. And and I think that that maybe needs to be a big city conversation about how to live with wildlife, especially if you start talking
about preservation peacefully cohabit. Well, yeah, exactly. And just the fact that when you live in a though, you live in a developed city and there also
be room for wildlife. Yes. Because we effectively came in and displaced them. So they're just trying to carve out little, little corners, little slices of, of nature that they can still live. And there's coyotes
all over the city. There's raccoons, possums, possums, coyotes in in very urban places. So yeah, they can find a way. They will find a way. But I
said our kitty caught one in the garden yesterday. Yeah. What a what? Rat. Rat. She was so pleased. So. Holly. Yes.
Great. The, the main thing that we've kind of been postponing because. And I don't know what to call it at this point. So yes, according to our sustainability plan, we are
still working on our climate action plan. It's just I need to touch base on some of the policy topics just because there are some state level
things happening. So we just want to stay abreast of that, which is we kind of had a full docket tonight anyway. And then so we're going to see what makes sense as far as timing,
it's did you rename it the Energy and Climate Action Plan? Okay. So I didn't understand that exchange. What are you talking about is there's an
energy and climate action plan. And because there are certain things that play right now, we are we need to have I need to
just cross and make sure that I am following any procedural things for establishing policies with. I need to have a discussion with the city manager before I bring it to
you guys. Is all because of the state? Yes. Yes. Preemptive. Yeah, I get it. So it's just something to stay abreast of.
And yeah. So that's that's a challenge. It is a challenge balancing timing. Still prioritizing things that are important that we don't want to,
you know, let let fall by the wayside. It's a priority. It's it's a high priority action item. But being you know smart about how we move things
forward also. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And you'll you'll let us I will I will let you all know how things are going. Okay. So that sounds like you've got we've
got a lot to do between now and then. Yes, I love the I love the discussions that are happening though. Well, I'm just happy we're having
discussions on a good broad level really I think really good for the committee. Definitely. So hopefully we'll
have another member by September 8th. Are we ready for staff comments? I was okay only if everyone is finished with items for the next agenda. Okay,
so that is the first comment. Yes, I've been told that the applicant for this committee should be on the September 9th BoCC agenda for approval. Okay,
so that will be great. And then presumably she would be here for the September meeting at that point, which would be excellent. You also, doctor and
Siobhan would be your terms would be extended at that meeting as well, I believe. Okay. And then just an announcement about an upcoming event, Eco Fest. Wow. How is
that already here? It will be September 13th. So that is before our next meeting, September 13th from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. at the Splash Park Slash
Dog Park. I believe there will be, you know, some great community representatives such as I believe usually we have someone from when is that again? It's September 13th which is
Saturday. Okay. From 10 to 1, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Okay. We usually have a lot of community. You know, we have city departments, we have some community representatives. Keep Pinellas beautiful. Maybe
Brooker Creek, there's usually a tree giveaway. I don't know the status of exactly everything that'll be there, but it will be a full event. I think we even have some like a
food and and drink vendor coming this year, so kind of mixing it up a little bit. And that is of course organized by the recreation department. So they do an amazing job with
that event. But sustainability will be there. And then the other thing that I just wanted to bring to you all's attention, which you've probably seen this,
but just in case not, is the the EPA has a proposed rule they're reconsidering. It's a reconsideration of the 2009 endangerment finding for the Greenhouse Gas emissions,
vehicle standards, etc. So I'll send an email to you all, but you can submit comments to this. The comment period is through September 22nd, so I will just
send you all an email with the with, you know, a link to the EPA website just so you can read more about it and see the information on where you submit a comment. Essentially, anyone
who submits a substantive comment, which is whatever you know you want to put in it, why the existing regulations are good and should be upheld, or
why changing them would be bad or whatnot. You know, your own words, and then essentially they have to respond to that.
So it just helps. It helps to create that review of all public comment. It's just an added step. So it kind of makes
the process more complete. So that's recommended. I'll send you all the the link. If it's something that you would like to do in your personal time. It's it's personal. It's not
I'm not asking anyone to take an official position or do anything that they do not want to do. It's just if that is something that you would like to read more about. As a member of the Sustainability Committee,
I wanted to share that with you. And I think and then of course, I just asked Robin, but she has her piece for Tarpon Forum next
Friday the 29th, and I think those are what about the arborist? Yeah, I wanted to ask. It's, you know, as when a
position opens up, there will be interviews and I will keep you posted. Shannon still with us or she's gone. She is number of weeks ago, like right after
they accepted her thing, she prioritized, of course, finalizing the urban forestry management plan, which was amazing. Such a great body of work. And then, you know, other
opportunities come along sometimes. So but that position is open. Is it being advertised now? So we do all of our hiring through Neogov, which is a
government now hiring platform that a lot of cities and counties use. So that's our primary means of advertising. It's out there in the city. Yes,
it is out there. So it is, I believe, still open. I would have to check that people can check online for that through our human resources. It should link to the gov website. So
hopefully we'll see where she went soon. She I believe it's a private I believe she's doing something on her own. I believe she's she's doing more
entrepreneurial work at this point. So I will just yeah. We may run in for some. Yes. She's out in the world doing. If you talk to her tell her that we
wish her the best. I absolutely will do that. I know she will. I texted her because I have a I have a free issue. And she didn't get back. Yeah, but I
don't know if I have the right telephone number. Can I. I will ask her. You have her personal number. I don't know if it was. Yeah. I don't know if it would
have been her. I will I will ask her if I can share her number with you. Okay. Many comments. She knows my tree well. I want her to come back.
Okay. Tree. Constant consternation with tree. You're all. Do you have anything for? No. I wanted to comment about
coyotes and I already did that. I do want to say that this is really cool. Robert and I went
to Cocoa Beach and we we saw two launches, which was really cool, but we would get up in the morning before sunrise and
walk on the beach, and one morning there was a small group of people and we walked up and there was a little baby turtle
had left its nest and was in going into the ocean, and it would go in, pushed back. And
it's perfectly formed. Yeah, perfectly formed at turtle. And just about that big and beautiful. I mean, we see it on
TV and documentaries, but to actually see it, see it happening right there, that's amazing. I mean that that was and it was Robert's birthday.
And turtles and tortoises are symbols of longevity. So it was like, yeah, it was a gift from the universe. Very cool. Yeah.
Beautiful. Well, I went to Vermont and it was 70 degrees one day. Let's all go. Yeah, it
was pretty exciting. So I wrote a rode on the Burlington Trail for 26 miles. It was fantastic. Wow. Right on Lake Champlain.
Yeah. Seeing the lake. Oh, it was so great. Sounds lovely. Sounds like Denise. Do you have a comment? Just let's pray for
rain. Yeah. I mean, it was wonderful when it seemed like we were kind of returning to that more normal every afternoon pattern. It rains
everywhere else. Really? Really? Really. Yeah. It seems like it kind of maybe goes around us. Yeah it does. It goes up to holiday. It always goes up there. I was going to say, yeah,
I live in southern Pasco County and we get we got a lot of rain this week. Yeah we haven't gotten any anything. And it comes and then it just it just keeps saying I look on the map.
We're going to get it. Yeah. And we wait and wait. I just have a poem that I want to share because before the meeting started, I texted Carol and I thought that she had
written a poem about the mighty mangrove, and I thought, oh, that's awesome. When we had, you know, when we had your first night, I read a Mary
Oliver poem, but I found a short one that I loved. And it's about the mangrove, okay. Which is perfect. It's called Where Roots Embrace. Barefoot upon the shore I walk the
brackish line. Where land waltzes with the tide. A delicate dance of resilience. Roots knotted in salt and mud.
A symphony of whispers beneath the surface. Here life clings to life. Crabs scuttle and shadows of green, each leaf a
sentinel cradling the secret of the brine, a cradle for the fin and the feather echoing the rhythms of evolution. Sunlight filters through tangled
branches, each ray a brushstroke of gold. Painting stories of survival, of storms that rise and recede, of
stillness and fury. The mangrove holds its breath, rises in humility and grace. A sanctuary in the balance of
world. Is that a Mary Oliver? It is. And I wish I could find the author of this poem. I will have to look it up. That was lovely. Yeah. Very nice. Thank
you. Denise, as I photographed. Mangrove out at Howard Park for years and I. I called the series one lonely mangrove in all different weather
conditions. And was it a red mangrove or a white or black? Well, it's out in the water, so doesn't matter. Does it have super big roots? Yeah. Then
it's probably red. Yeah. Are you familiar with Curtis Whitcomb? I whitwam his artwork.
He's he's local. And I met his brother very interestingly at the church of the Bayou when they were talking about doing a community garden there. But
he's an artist that my son worked with. But mangroves and and little fish and Florida themes are really what he is all about. So it's worth
checking out. But we here we are. We have completed our agenda and I move that we
adjourn. I second all in favor I, I. Under. I fix your clock.